Episode 9 - "Do Heavyweights"

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Greeting campers. Hi, Hi, Hi. Don't worry, guys, you'll get it.
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You'll pick up. Welcome to a very special Camp Hope
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edition of Mike at the Movies. Everyone. My name is Colin.
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I'm a Mick. I watch movies, and I was born
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and raised on many of the movies we're going to
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be talking about today. Welcoming back to the show. He
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hasn't been here in a while because he's been at
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the Sizzler closing the place down. It's Tim.
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Welcome, Tim Phoened, Skinny Tony.
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Pheli, Skinny Tony All. That's good. We're finally doing it, folks.
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We're quote unquote doing Heavyweights. This has been a long
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time coming. This is a movie that has been very
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formative for myself. Tim. Basically everyone that we know can
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quote this movie top to bottom. I think when do
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you think Skate first sent us the text do Heavyweights?
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Months ago when we first started the episode. This has
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been a long time coming, Tim.
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Right probably right after we decided to record a movie
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pod or maybe the after the first one.
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Yeah, and he's struggled through Do Heavyweights? Yep, he's he's
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suffered through every episode since then and we're finally we
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think he deserves this one, and Lord knows, we're gonna
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screw up and forget countless different things that happened in
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the nineteen ninety five movie Heavyweights. And he'll let us
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know after the fact when he's listening to it, but
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first him, just like Matthew Fox in Loss, before we
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look ahead, we have to go back. We have to
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go back. So just looking back a few quick corrections
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notes some things that have popped up since our last
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couple of episodes. We did receive a letter in some
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messages from the lawyer, a lawyer representing Troy. It sounds
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like it did actually come through in his text to
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Tim and I, but I'm fairly certain that was his lawyer.
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Sounded like a lot of lawyers speak that Troy was
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texting us. There's some allegations regarding our reporting on Febfest
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from our correspondent Skake, notably, specifically some allegations regarding if
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Troy ever mentioned the movie Avatar, and then his lawyer
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also demanded that we make a retraction and say that
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we both had in fact been invited to Fedfest and
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had received I believe in invitation. In writing, we've passed
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all this on to our lawyers. We haven't had skate
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sit down with the lawyers. You know, we are an
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independent media company, so we stand by our reporting and
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our correspondent. I think what is happening here is just
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another example of what's unfortunately been going on in the
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in the world in general. Is we are it's an
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attempt to intimidate, pressure or you know, bully us when
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we report on information that others others don't like. You know,
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I will say we we love t Roy. We've been
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friends with him for a long time. He does represent
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Big Canoe. Just as there's big Big Pharma, big Tech.
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You know, Troy represents Big Canoe, and they're a little
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bit more conservative. They believe that, you know, people should
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be sitting on their ass when on a watercraft. You know,
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Tim and I have been at the fore front of
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believing that it's okay to be able to stand up
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on a watercraft. So there's a lot of friction there, right,
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So our lawyers advise us not to say too much.
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We're reviewing materials. We're going to talk with Skake, but
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I will say that, you know, we we refuse to
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be pressured or bullied here at the Worst Friends Podcast Network. Tim,
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anything else you want to add, you know, we'll obviously
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have follow ups and updates after our lawyers sort things out.
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Anything else you want to add, Yeah.
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I just wanted to add really quick. True, we will
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not be bullied, but we will accept money from people
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in lieu of bully. You know, if they want to
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give us money, then maybe we would allow a little
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bit of bullying. But we do know our constitutional rights,
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and I just wanted to really quick touch on this.
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We did get an invite for February or for feb
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Fest twenty seventh, fab Fest obviously being held in January
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twenty seven, course and every other year, and apparently there
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was an issue. I am drawing a plank. Did we
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record Troy's top favorite movies? Did we record a discussion
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about that?
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Yeah? We went through skkes Skake's reporting. You remember Skate
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sent us an image of a notes app that had
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both Troy's top five from twenty twenty five and top
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all time.
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Yes, okay, apparently it wasn't Avatar in his top five,
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but Star Wars. And it is kind of funny because
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you Roy might you know, every once in a while,
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we might say something to Neill here way off in
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the distance coming from Baldwin, just barely audible. You'll hear
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nerds for me geek, maybe even sometimes. But I can
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specifically remember watching Fellowship of the Rings in a dorm
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that you and Skate both shared with Troy and also
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with another fellow. And I remember watching Fellowship of the
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Rings in that dorm and Troy specifically welcome water the
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shit fucking nerds, and then a few minutes later him
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being completely glued to the TV, not wanting to miss
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what was happening next. So I think maybe he's got
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a little bit of that nerd in him.
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Well he's claiming, yeah, he's claiming now that suddenly an
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all time movie for him as Star Wars. Now, look,
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I'm not gonna say I'm the biggest Star Wars fan
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you know, in the world, but I have based most
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of my life and religion around those movies, have loved
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those movies all my life. I've also known Troy most
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of my life, have never once had a single conversation
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with him about Star Wars. So, like, do you think
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Troy knows who shot first Grido or Han? I don't
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think so. Like I said, our lawyer's advised us not
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to get into it. We're gonna do some follow up reporting.
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We're gonna let them sort through this, but we did
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want to address it right off the bat. Here a
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few more quick corrections. Apologies again for my audio on
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the A Mick in King Arthur's Court sounded like I
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was recording in an empty oil drum. Here's hoping that
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this sounds better. And also in that episode, wouldn't you
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know it, a guy talking about a whole bunch of
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bros Playing Knights. I forgot to give my best Gwenevere
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in the arth Wards the Arthur Awards. Apologies to Kiera Knightley.
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I'm gonna have to give this award to Julia Ormond
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two reasons. Again, no slight to Kiera Knightley. If war
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broke out between Ireland and England right now and they
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said the only way that we can resolve this, Colin
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is to make you King of Ireland, but you'll have
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to take Kiera Knightley as your queen for the good
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of both countries. Yes, I would accept that, but in
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this case Julia Ormond was just a little bit more
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queenly in her Queen Gwenevere, and it allows me to
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tell the story that I once heard that Julia Ormond
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does not have any bones in her nose, so she
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can actually like squish the meat of her nose flat
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against her face. I've never made any attempt to verify that,
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but I always it's always in the back of my
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mind when I'm watching Richard gear try to eat her
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face in the movie First Night, because I'm looking at
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her nose to see how much it squishes against her face.
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So I'm sorry to that queen, but Julia Ormond does
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take my best Gwenevere.
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All right regulations to Julia.
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Then, Oh dude, Julia Ormond is a gem even now.
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I think last year she was like the head of
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the can Film Festival committee things. She's still out there
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doing her thing, So shout out to her. All right,
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new quick segment, because we got a lot to get
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to here. I'm calling this segment planes, tims and automobiles.
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Even though you know everyone knows we make it's a
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little over a million a year apiece doing this podcast.
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Tim still keeps his day job, he doesn't, you know.
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He still likes to work with the people and not
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just live off our fat podcast salary. So, uh, in
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this segment of planes, Tim's and automobiles, tell us about
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your your work travels, Tim, what's been going on?
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Yeah, that's right. I'm like Jay Leno. Jay Leno's you know,
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famously always says I never touched my Tonight Show money.
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You know that he just the millions upon millions of
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semi load trucks of money that he made for the
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Tonight Show. He just has it all in safe keeping
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that he you know, bought his you know, six hundred
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cars with his uh stand up money.
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Apparently, what's the movie with what's the movie with Leno
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and mister Miagi? Do you remember it off the top
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of your head? I don't know, all right, you keep talking,
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I'm gonna look it up.
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Well anyhow. Uh Yeah, So during a work trip, I
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went to the the Great White North of Minnesota, and uh,
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it was actually a quite uh you know, just a
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short trip. Flew from Grand Rapists to Chicago to Duluth, Minnesota.
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Just gonna be there a few days. The first few
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days Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, we're quite pleasant, sunny, relatively warm
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for February and Minnesota. I knew Tuesday night into Wednesday morning,
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there was a chance that I was gonna get pretty
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nasty out and of course I was scheduled to leave,
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scheduled to depart from the Duluth Airport at seven to
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fifty am on Wednesday. Woke up to about, you know,
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looked like a nice fourteen inches of snow and continuing
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to look like it's coming down sideways because of the wind.
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And so I woke up, it was all packed up,
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drove to the Duluth Airport, and as I'm getting there,
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like there is no way that at seven fifty am
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I want to get on this plane covered in ice.
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But anyhow, I'm just like whatever. I check in around
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you know, seven o'clock am, I don't know your flight's
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been delayed till ten am, and I'm looking at the
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weather app on my phone. I'm like, it's still coming
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down pretty good out there, still you know, blowing sideways.
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Long story short, my flight that was supposed too late
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fifty am left at approximately five thirty pm, some time
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to kill into d Luth Airport, which has one little
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store in one little restaurant, which were closed the whole day.
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I decided, you know what, I got some time I'm
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going to see what there is on Amazon, or you know,
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see what there is on the different Hulu, the different
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apps on my phone and watch something.
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That was my recommendation to you is to get on
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that hooplah.
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Yeah, I ended up settling on. I was also working
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a little bit in the airports. You know, I have
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that rise and grind might say, but I settled on
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Big Trouble in Little China to kill a nice couple
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hours of my day. I just got to say that
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Kurt Russell and John Carpenter, in my opinion, are one
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of the all time director actor duos. And also Kurt
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Russell's mullet in the eighties was the most beautiful one
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ever on film until maybe Joe Dirt. And I just
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wanted to mention that to keep bringing a big Joe Dirt,
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but definitely if you ever ever seen that movie and
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you're for a nice little fun two hours of absolute
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insanity and Kurt Russell just, you know, completely hamming it up.
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And at one point he shoots a gun into the
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air to kind of intimidate people, and he shoots like
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the ceiling and all falls on his head. So yeah,
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just what great moments in that movie.
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Better, Better movie Big Trouble in Little China or the
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movie Collision Course starring Jay Leno and Pat Morita from
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nineteen eighty nine.
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It's got to be pretty close. But I'm going to
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give the edge a little bit to Big Trouble in
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Little China just because Kurt's mullet was Jay Leno probably
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had a mullet then too, but kurtz was probably better.
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Ironically, Leno's chin is actually as long as Kurt Russell's
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mullet in that movie, so they do. It's just like
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he's standing backwards.
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So are you looking at? Are you looking at like
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a poster or a picture for that?
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A couple of different things.
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Yes, the Canadian tuxedo, the denim on denhim.
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Looks like he has no leather jackets, but then also
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kind of a de Niro from heat, like a suit
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like a white or like a grayish suit. And the
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looks like the poster classic eighties poster with Lenno and
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Pat Marita miss Miagi standing back to back and Leno's
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like holding a gun up with that look on his
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face like how did I end up here with mister Miyagi?
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Or I should say, hey, how did I end up
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he Withyagi. All right, what else you got? We got
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a lot to get to.
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Tim, I had another another thing. I'm just gonna skip
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over and I'm gonna go to this one. So, Colin,
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have you ever been your wife ever been on the
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couch the other end of the couch for you? She's
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playing Sims on her laptop and I perhaps thinking, boy,
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this is this would be the good life? You know,
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this character that murders her husbands and is a half
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bug or whatever. But is she ever sitting down there?
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And you say, if I watch a movie? She goes, sure, Colin,
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this is a Is this what you've been doing? Or
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is this what you're doing? What's the name with your segment?
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Is this what you're doing? So she's playing as you
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go to fire up a movie, and then she looks
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over from her fake life and goes, is this what
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you're doing? Is this what you're doing? What were you doing? Tim?
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I decided to watch the movie A Simple Plan from
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I Believe nineteen ninety eight, directed by Sam Raimie, starring
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Bill Paxson, Rip Billy, Bob Thornton, and Bridget Fonda. As
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well as you know, you get a little bit of
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Gary Cole in there for a little bit and stuff
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like that. But have you ever seen this movie?
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Oh? Yeah, yeah, way it's been it's been a while,
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but I feel like that was weirdly a movie that
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I watched like right when it came out, and then
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maybe revisited it once. But it's been a long time.
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The the thing that comes to mind now with the
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Simple Plan is, and I'm stealing this as a bit
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from I don't know if you were going to talk
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about this from Blank Check. On that podcast, one of
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their producers claims that if he ever found himself in
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the situation of a Simple Plan, it wouldn't go bad
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at all and he would just like live happily with
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the money the rest of his life. That's the most
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that's been in my life recently.
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Yeah, so I've actually after watched this event. I started
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listening to that episode yesterday and it was the producer said,
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I would do everything right and it'd live on a
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private island. Yeah, but man, this was you know Sam Raimie,
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He's well known for his horror, schlocky type films and
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obviously the Spider Man trilogy. I didn't really know what
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to expect you know, I knew it was like they
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find money in a plane. In a plane, they find
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a crash plane and there's a bag of money in it,
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and then you know, quickly things start going sideways when
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they deserved or when they decide to keep the money.
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But I gotta say, uh, and you know, I've kind
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of soured on the Sky in recent years Billy Bob Thornton.
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I don't know why. I don't really know why I've
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soured on him. I think maybe just because every time
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I open Facebook there's like these AI generated things of
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Billy Bob Thornton and the Landman criticized the view and
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fans can't get you know, and it's just like, really.
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See, I haven't seen I haven't seen any of that
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my and sorry to interrupt, it's you know, and I
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never do this on the episode, but it's because he's
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just gone to TV. That was my really, quol Lie.
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There was Goliath, which was on Like Stars, and now
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he's on like land Man. And I did like him
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in that stint on Fargo, but to because I agree
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with you, and I tried to think, I'm like, why
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am I kind of you know, Iffy, It's just because
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I haven't seen him in any movies lately, but I'm sorry,
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go on.
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Also, when he does those T mobile commercials, he clearly
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is trying to become Timothy Oliphant in those. Uh but
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all that aside, all that aside, I must say, in
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a simple plan, you know, my god, he was an
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absolute tour to force in that he got nominated for
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Best Supporting Actor in a I was listening to, like
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I said to blank Check and Kevin Smith was on there,
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and he was I agree with Kevin Smith, Like how
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he did not win in the blank Chunk guys agreed
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to like how he did not win was beyond me
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because that was that was, I mean, just an all
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time great performance. And it got me kind of thinking
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because Bill Paxson's in that movie too. Another you know
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a guy that we really love, I would say, is
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Bill Paxton, whether it's you know, a small role like
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in True Lies as the slime Ball, or you know
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in Aliens when he's completely losing his ship, or in
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movies like This and Twister where he was a leading man.
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I mean, I felt Bill Paxson was awesome, but it
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kind of got me thinking, you know, we we have
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the Chris Rankings. Maybe someday we could tackle this is
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just something that you on, just something on now. Maybe
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we could tackle the the Bill slash Billy Rankings, you know,
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with Paxon and Pullman and Billy Bob Thornton and of
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course Billy Baldwin and uh Arrest. I don't know why
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Billy Baldwin is Billy Crystal. You know, there's a lot
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of good Bills and Billies out there. I would exclude
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the Williams just because you know, they're trying to be
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a little bit They're they're trying to be a little
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bit you know, high and mighty with all that.
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But okay, that you hey, you know what I'm taking it.
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I'm putting a little A one on it. I'm swapped,
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you know, slushing it around in the A one. What
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I was trying to do was find find who he
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lost to in the Oscars that year. And once, you
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know what, the Oscars doesn't have that fan friendly of
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a website, so let me keep he was probably in
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a supporting role.
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Yeah, we see the supporting role.
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Okay, then I think I'm in the wrong year and.
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I think the movie was in ninety eight, so maybe
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it was in ninety nine the Oscars.
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Good good, call him in the ninety eight Oscars. So
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let me do this nineteen ninety nine Oscars. Getting there.
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I'm almost there. Keep vamping, keep vamping at.
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Bills and billies. Okay, good, Oh.
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But it doesn't tell me who oh, No, it does
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tell me the winner. All right. So you got Billy
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Bob Thornton, a simple plan, Jeffrey Rush, Shakespeare in Love,
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Ed Harris, The Truman Show, and apologies to this man.
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He's a great We're going to talk about him in
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another episode. But Robert Duvall was nominated for a civil action.
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Do you remember a civil action? Tim?
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I don't.
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But the winner goes to James Coburn for Affliction. You'll
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notice that there was no ding from mort in that
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pause that we gave right there. Okay, I'm sorry to
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James Coburn. I probably would recognize him if he came
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up to me on the street. This is the first
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and last time I've ever heard of the movie Affliction, so.
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You're probably right.
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Okay, all right, so the Billy Bob's I did kind
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of start to tune you up when you wanted to
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do all the lists and rankings, of all the Bobs
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and brothers in Bros. If I had to, off the
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top of my head, Billy Bob rankings number three, Tombstone
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when he gets pistol whipped by the afore mentioned Kurt Russell,
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number two, Armageddon number three, get him man deep potato repetatos.
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That would be sling Blade. Also then Robert Duval play
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his dad in sing sling Blade? Am I misremembering that? I?
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You know, I haven't seen that movie in so long?
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Sometimes come on, TikTok a little bit, I do. I
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you quote it quite a bit though, because whenever I
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have to get in the car after my wife has
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driven it, I always say his quote when he fixed
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the guy's like, can you fix this lawnmore? What's wrong
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with it? And he goes he ain't got no gas
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really quick, you know, just just to put a bow
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on Billy Bob here for a second. Sling Blade was
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also written and directed by him, so that is quite
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quite a.
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He was an all tour. He was an all tour, Like,
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why is he still not doing that? Like if you
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told me that Billy Bob is writing, directing, and starring
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in a movie, right, you know, coming up? I would
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put that right in the middle of the list of
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movies that I may or may not bailon, you know, like,
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keep doing that. I don't know why you're doing.
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Because he directed all the pretty horses.
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All right, you're right. It probably went south after that.
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I did send you something when when Robert Duval passed away.
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There are all these nice things going around, and it's
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someone in some article quoted how Robert Duval called Billy
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Bob Thornton the redneck citizen Kane or the redneck Orson. Wells,
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I thought that was but they made a point to say, like,
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but he said it in love. That's just how Robert.
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She said it with love. So okay, all right, were
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ready to move on? You got anything else?
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Yeah, I had another suggestion, but I'm gonna I'm gonna
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cut it, gonna table it.
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Okay, Well, speaking of unfortunate passings aways again, we're gonna
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get to We're gonna give Duval kind of his his
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own flowers and love in a different episode. But we
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also lost James Vanderbeek recently, so you know, rest in
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paddling James Vanderbeek, he's super young, really sad, you know,
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only a couple of years older than us. I had
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known he was sick. They did some Dawson's Creek reunion
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maybe like a year or so ago, and like everyone
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was there except for him, but he like video conference Dan,
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and you could see he was really sick, just just
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terrible rest in paddling to him. I do feel bad
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because when I found out he died, I'm like, oh,
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I wonder if we should talk about him on the podcast.
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But he's more of a TV guy, you know, He's
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more like Dawson's Creek, you know, to me. And then
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I don't know if it was right away or shortly
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after him, like what the hell am I talking about?
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He he made a very, you know, indelible impact in
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the world of movies, especially for people our age, with
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the classic Varsity Blues, and so it kind of worked out.
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It's never good when something works out well that an
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actor died and we were already going to talk about stuff,
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But Varsity Blues does kind of fit into the latter
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end of an era of movies we're going to talk about,
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but we won't spend a lot of time on Varsity Blues.
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But Tim, you can agree that that was about as
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accurate a depiction of playing football in high school. As
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you know, that was basically a documentary. We would always
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steal cop cars, you know, drink beers on the field
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after the game, like James Conn's tweeter, did anything else
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like Varsity Blues related and then any other quick you
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know Vanderbeek thoughts and roles.
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I can't remember Varsity Blues really well. And I think
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we've talked about this before, one with John Vavoight or
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is that the one with Billy Bob as the coach.
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Now Billy Bob was Friday Night Lights. Okay, so that's
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maybe that should that should be somewhere in the Billy
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Bob rankings. I'm sorry to that, Billy Bob, but no,
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crazy John Voight. Remember James Vanderbeeks, the backup quarterback, that
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beautiful hunk of blonde hair. Also, man, I really hope
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Vanderbeek and Paul Walker are up there on some stand
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up paddle boards in heaven right now.
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That's how I'm the big Lineman guy too. He's dead too, man,
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is he really? Yep?
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Wasn't his name Billy Bob? I do the movie?
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I don't know again, this is gonna make me sell
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like an asshole. I always get to mix up with
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a Reggie Ray from not another Team movie.
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All Right, I'm gonna I'm gonna have to look this.
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Do you think it was from all the concussions that
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his character suffered? Is it? Are you able to think
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of Varsity Blues without also thinking about not another teen
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movie where they just make fun of Varsity.
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Not I'm not. Unfortunately I can't really quick while you're
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looking it up. There was some other Vanderbeek things I
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wanted to mention I don't like. Also, when we were
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in college, that movie Rules of Attraction started kind of
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circulating them a little bit. Good The Weak is kind
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of like a borderline sex addict sociopath college student dealing
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with you know, the rules of attraction and people being
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obsessed with each other and stuff like that, like.
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A little more raunchier and like a little more like
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of a of an edgy or sassy movie, wasn't it?
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Yeah? Yeah, okay? And then had what's up?
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Go ahead? Go ahead?
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He also had a brief cameo role him and you
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know half of the Screen Actors Guild had a brief
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cameo role in Jans Bob Strike Back when he was
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cast to play a Jay's alter ego Chronic in the
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blunt Man and Chronic movie, where he was, you know,
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playing the Jay character and Jason Biggs was playing the
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Silent Bob character. It was always a kind of funny,
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funny little scene when he seems like in your Dawson, you.
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Were not wrong, You were not wrong. Ron Lester, who
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played Billy Bob, did pass away in June of twenty sixteen.
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So hopefully he's up there paddleboarding too. And I don't
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want to while I have everyone in because this is
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breaking news. I did not know this. And now I
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have to go back and rewatch Varsity Blues because I'm
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looking at the cast. You remember Paul Walker played. His
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character's name was Lance Harbor. Well, as I scrolled down
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the cast list, here I see that there was a
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Tommy Harbor must have been like a younger brother to Lance,
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played by Jesse Plemmons. Did you know this? Plemmons was
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in Varsity Blue. No, stop the pod. We're gonna just
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we're never gonna top this finding this out, but anymore so?
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Uh?
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Any other? So Jay and Silbob rules of Attraction. And
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then I see here in the notes you saw vander
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beekon an episode of Modern Family. Was there anything else
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other than you just saw him in an episode of
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Modern Family?
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It was no, that wasn't It was just he was
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he played himself, you know, Like I don't want to
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get too much into it because I don't know who
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out there is familiar with the show. But there's a
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character named Cameron who's from Missouri. Now he lives in uh, California,
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and his it's a big joke. You know, he's always
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talking about his country life or farmer life back in
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you know, Missouri, and his wife is pregnant and comes
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to live with them, and we find out the baby
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daddy is James Vanderbeek. Is like this loser. They also
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Cam and his partner Mitchell, are gay, and they you know,
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like he is very hot. You know, like when they
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finally kick him out of the house, he goes outside
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the door drop something he like just bend's over and
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holds it so they're like, you know, staring at his ass.
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It's pretty funny, oh dice, he was. It's sad he
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was a hunk. I mean, people are gonna remember, They're
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gonna remember James Vanderbeek they're gonna and some people might
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just remember him from the crying meme, from the crying
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James Vanderbeek meme, because man, I mean you and I
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sat through you watched a good chunk of that Dawson's Creek,
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and the dorms at at Central right, like the CW
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or something would just play Dawson's Creek on in some
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channel in the dorms and we would just get up
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in the morning, watch Dawson's Creek, go to class, maybe
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go to class, steal bikes, come back, watch more Dawson's Creek.
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Do you remember that?
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I see I remember. I would go hang out with
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you guys in your dorm and Skake of all people,
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is like a champion for Dawson's Creek.
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Like, dude, I love Dawson's Creek. And someone someone that
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we're going to talk about a lot coming up here,
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just every other episode was stealing Dawson's girl. Joshua Jackson
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came into that show and just whoever Dawson was pining over,
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Bam Pacey just swoop right in and take that girl
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away from him. So we're gonna talk about Joshua Jackson here,
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who thankfully is still with us rest in paddling though.
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To Vanderbeet, so Varsity Blues helps kind of lead us
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into the main topic today. And I'm a little nervous.
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You can hear it in my voice because, to quote
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Chris Parnell from the movie Anchorman, this is a big one.
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This is a big episode for us, tim this is
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a big one. We've been talking talking about doing heavyweights.
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Heavyweights kind of expanded into I think at some point
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Skake sa and all those nineties movies Mighty Ducks, you know,
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And so we really tried to do the work here,
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do the research. We had our crack team of researchers
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aka me and you try and go through and make
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a list and kind of make sense of the era
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of movies that I think Skate wanted us to touch on,
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namely the nineties. Some of them are Disney, not all
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of them are Disney kid oriented films, a lot of
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them revolving around sports. I think it helped that you
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may scake all of us, even though remember Scake's like
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ten years younger than us. That's always weird. We always
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forget how old Skake is, but he still remembers all
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of these movies. Most of them are nineties movies, but
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we went through and try to make a list and
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attempt to define this era. I'm going to give a
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brief kind of big picture overview. I'm going to name
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a lot of movies in years, and then we're going
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to drill down talk about some specifically, and then we're
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going to wrap the show up with more or less
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a deep dive close to a rewatch in real time
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of Heavyweights itself, to make sure we try not to
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miss anything. Now, Varsity Blues was in nineteen ninety nine. Now,
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for the sake of this exercise, I look at that
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as kind of the end of this era of movies
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that we're looking at, and it's basically when us as
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young young boys grew into men. By the time it
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was nineteen ninety nine, I'm hoping most of us had
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hit puberty and we were thinking about things a little
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bit differently, and Varsity Blues kind of spoke to that.
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I'm talking specifically about the ice cream Sunday bathing suit
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that one of the characters wears in Varsity Blues. I
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don't think about that a lot, But so going back though,
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when you think about the eighties, kind of quote unquote
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kids movies. In the eighties, there weren't a lot of
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kids movies. It was the teenager young adult what I
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call the John Hughes era. So you had Breakfast club
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sant elmos Fire, Pretty in Pink that more or less
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dominated the eighties, and those movies were great, but if
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there were younger kids in them, they were mostly like
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secondary characters. It wasn't until we got into the nineties.
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And I'm kind of drawing the line of Home Alone
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in nineteen ninety, even though that's Hugh's related Hughes adjacent,
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I'm calling that the unofficial end of the Hughes era
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and the start of what we know as the kind
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of nineties just for kids era. That sound good so far, Tim,
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Do you agree with the big picture looks so far?
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Yeah? I would say the only movie I can think of,
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like Top of Mind from the eighties that I would
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really call like a just for kids movie, I would
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say is Goonies. But other than that, you're right, you know,
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most people think of it as kind of the quote
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unquote Brett Pack with Emilia Svez, Judd Nelson and I
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can't rememb.
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Molly Ringwold.
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Yes, Yes, Goonies.
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Goonies is good. I think Goonies is a little bit
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more Spielberg adjacent. You know, Spielberg did a good job of,
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like with e T, bringing the kids point of view
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into movies. Goonies is a good, a good kind of
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early early example of what we're going to look through.
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But let me go through. I'm going to do something
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that's amazing on podcasts, and that's just read a list
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of things. But I'm going to I'm going to start.
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There are a couple of movies I have on this
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list that were before nineteen ninety and I will come
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back to them in a second, but just starting at
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nineteen ninety with Home Alone nineteen ninety one, Ernest Scared Stupid,
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and Toy Soldiers. Toy Soldiers was one I wasn't very
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familiar with until going on the Gold Trip with Jay
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and Rye. I always thought Toy Soldiers was that movie
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with the plastic soldiers. This is the OCE, but no,
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it has Oh gosh, I'm forgetting Rudy's name, Seant and
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don Asten and yep, Toy Soldiers and Ernest Scared Stupid
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nineteen ninety one, nineteen ninety two, Lady Bugs, the Mighty Ducks,
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Cool Runnings. Oh no way, I skipped ahead. So nineteen
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ninety two we get Lady Bugs in the Mighty Ducks.
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Now the Mighty Ducks interject because I didn't know this
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was in reverse chronological order until I just looked at it. Now.
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Also in nineteen ninety two, three Ninjas.
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Okay, put that down in there. That's a big one.
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I got it. But it's just not in the right
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That's okay.
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You just now noticed I had these all in chronological order.
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Three Ninjas is a good one. Mighty Ducks is one
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we will come back to because I think this is
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where the template was starting to build, and we'll see
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a lot of Mighty Ducks actors and some other things
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that we're going to watch. Nineteen ninety three. I don't
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really agree with this, but Cooler Runnings. Are there even
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any kids in Cool Runnings?
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Don't know? I look at it as these mid ninety
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early to mid nineties PG movies, is what I'm thinking.
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Okay, So nineteen ninety three Cool Runnings Rookie of the Year.
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Hocus Pocus. Now I put hocus Pocus in here mainly
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because of a very early affection for the actress of
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Vanessa Shaw, who was in the movie Lady Bugs. I
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will be coming back to Lady Bugs, but that's why
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I put hocus Pocus in, and that's fairly kid oriented.
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And also in nineteen ninety three The Sandlot. We'll come
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back to it, but let me keep going. Nineteen ninety four,
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now this is I think this is the peak. This
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is where we're getting a glut of you know, the
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studios have realized, hey, there's some money in making maybe
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sports related, but just young, kid focused comedies with one
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or two, you know, adult stars that you recognize, not
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adult movie stars, but just grown ups who are adults
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that are in these. So nineteen ninety four, listen to
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this list. Mighty Ducks two, The page Master, Young Macaulay Culkin,
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very underrated. Also mcauleay, Colchin, Richie rich Blank check what
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I call the Little Trilogy, Little Rascals, Little big League,
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Little Giants all in nineteen ninety four. And then Angels
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in the Outfield. It's his name, Rowan Gardner.
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Angels in the Outfield.
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I think Skate likes to think his middle name is
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Rowan Gardner. Oh no, that's Rookie of the Year. I
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think it's the same actor, isn't it. Let me keep
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going almost.
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In the outfield as Joseph Gordon Levitt.
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Angels in the outfield, I get him and the kid
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that plays Row and Gardner mixed up.
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We're going to say which one isn't there one with
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uh one of the guys from American Pie.
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We're going to come back to that nineteen ninety five.
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I disagree with both of these entries in nineteen ninety
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five by I'm na read them anyway, Operation Dumbo Drop.
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I don't think they were I don't think kids were
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allowed to be around Ray Liota. But anyway, Babe, I
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think that movie was all about animals and there were
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no kids. Continuing in nineteen ninety five, the same kid
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who is in Rookie of the Year, a kid in
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King Arthur's Court. Thank you to Skate for pointing out.
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I didn't mention that in my King Arthur episode. I'm
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almost done. Nineteen ninety five Man of the House, the
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Big Green, and then finally Heavyweights. There were a few
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more after nineteen ninety five, so we're talking. You know.
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Heavyweights comes at a time when I think the formula
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has been absolutely perfected. In nineteen ninety six, we get
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Mighty Ducks three. I'm not a fan of that in
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nineteen ninety seven because Tim believes both in the Tim
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believes in both Tim Allen's acting ability and all of
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his political views. Tim had to add Jungle to Jungle
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in nineteen ninety seven, and then Varsity Blues in nineteen
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ninety nine. Whow okay, there was a lot there. Do
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we want to answer the Rookie of the Year American
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Pie Kid question first? Or where do you want to
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go to on this list?
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Just I just want to touch on really quick, just because,
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as I've said in the past, it's all connecting. Man
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Pree Ninja's the grandfather is played by Victor Wong, who
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also plays egg Shane in Big eggsh In Big Trouble
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in Little China. And then I also mentioned Modern Family
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earlier and my wife and I that's kind of you know,
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our background Noise show right now. The best relationship on
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that show is Ed O'Neill. As you know, Jay Pritchett,
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the mid sixties man married to of course Sophia Virgara,
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the much younger, uh you know, Tina Bombshell. But honestly
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they are in I Don't Neil is God, he's so
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funny in that show. But again in Little Giants, I
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know we're probably not gonna touch on this much. The
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quotes he hasn't uh Little Giants and just him overall
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chewing his gum and with his sunglasses on chewing his gum.
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Look at him. God, he's so great in that movie.
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So those are the two I wanted to touch on,
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just to prove again that it's all connected, man.
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It's all connected. Man. We we just did a rewatch. Well,
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my creatures from the lagoon had never watched Little Giants,
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so I maybe about a month ago we did a
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Little Giants watch.
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I gotta go chase my cat into the basement because
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she's being ridiculous, so.
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Sounds I'm gonna go get more coffee. Go do that. Okay,
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hopefully she didn't get run over. So Little Giants we
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just did a rewatch, And you're absolutely right at O'Neill's
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amazing in it. And you can tell that they whether
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it was you know, him giving notes or him kind
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of making demands, they don't make him the full villain
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of that movie, which I think works out well. You
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know as every time you think he's gonna go like
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full bad guy, he'll have a nice moment where he
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sits down and like talks with the ice box and
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tells her she's beautiful, or you know, he'll make all
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these demands, but then he kind of gives in and
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sees the lights.
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You know.
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He he obviously has the the kind of the machiese
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mo and the you know, winning at all costs mentality
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at the beginning, but kind of sees the light and
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they do a good job to humanize him and not
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make him. You know again, Ben Stiller in Heavyweights is
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a lot different than the Ed O'Neil character in Little Giants.
721
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You know, there's a way you could do these movies,
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and they would do these movies where the bad guy
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is the bad guy over the top, no redeeming them.
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Ed O'Neil to his credit because of how likable he is.
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They just couldn't quite do that in Little Giants, So
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good call. It was also fun trying to explain to
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my children who John Madden was, and yeah, the them
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finally realizing that that's why the video their football video
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game that they play is called that, right, They just
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thought that you get mad, you get Madden Play Play Football.
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It's Madden Football, all right, because Skate's probably screaming at
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the Uh what do you think what would he scream
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at I guess his phone while he's listening to this.
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So thomas Ian Nicholas, who you had mentioned from American
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Pie Yes, was both the Rookie of the Year and
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also a kid in King Arthur's Court Angels in the Outfield,
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You are right, was Uh, where's his name? I'm forgetting
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his name just because I'm realizing that Tony Danza and
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Danny Glover were also in Angels in the Outfield and.
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Christopher Lloyd, Oh yeah, he was an angel.
741
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What's his name? Joseph Gordon Levitt. I was totally blanking
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on Robin there. Okay, So we've talked about Little Giants,
743
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Tim loves At O'Neill, we've touched on the I'm sorry, Skake,
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We're not going to go through every single one of these.
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I think we've said about as much as we want
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to about Rookie of the Year and a kid in
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King Arthur's Court. What's another one of these that we
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ran through that you want to spend some time on?
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Tim The only other one I think that we need
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to make sure we give a little bit of a
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little bit of extra time too, I would say, is
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the Sandlot. I think that's pretty iconic, you know, whether
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it's the insult fight between the Sandlot players and the
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Little League team that ends with you play ball like
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a girl that kind of, you know, is like crossing
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the line, or you know the iconic scene with the
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chew everyone taking some chow before they get on the
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what do they call it the crazy dance and then
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you know, proceed to vomit all over the course that
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has a Michigan Michigan man Jane Old Jones as you know,
761
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the big scary blind guy who everyone's afraid to go
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in his yard but turns out, you know, he's just
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a old nice fella. That is you know, what was
764
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the dog's name, beast actual name? I don't know, I
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know it dog.
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Had a name, didn't that you The said Law's awesome
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by kids have all have all also gotten into a
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rhythm of just kind of rewatching binging that movie. It
769
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did have the what did they call specs? Oh no, squints,
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squints squints, good nicknames in it. Obviously there's Smalls led
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to you know, how often have you heard you killing me? Smalls?
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You know, right right from from that movie Squints, the
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scene where he, uh, I get it worries me to
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for my kids to watch these things and get any ideas.
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But Squints famously pretends to drowned just so he can
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get mouth to mouth from the uh from you know
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these movies again, Varsity Blues is when it was like, okay,
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we're just gonna go like full you know, sexual awakening here.
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But all these movies would have just a little bit
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of a you know, hints or a nod towards you know, hey,
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you know when you get a little bit older, you
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ever think you can find a girl of trying to
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kiss you? Probably not. Okay, I'm pretend to drowned, and
784
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then when she gives me mouth to mouth. That's how
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I'll figure this out.
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You know.
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It gave lots of very poor ideas, but it did
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start to put those ideas in your head. It also
789
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had the curly redheaded kid Ham and now Ham now
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that actor Patrick.
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Renna Patrick, I was gonna say Patrick Renner, right.
792
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Patrick Renna. He parlayed that into another movie that was
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on our list. Big Green. Now, I have admittedly never
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watched the movie Big Green, but I do. The only
795
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way I know it is because they put Patrick Rea
796
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on the poster of it with a soccer ball clearly
797
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hitting him in the nuts. Now, have you watched Big Green?
798
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And if so, does he take a soccer ball to
799
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the nuts in that movie? Can you verify?
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I have watched Big Green. I cannot remember if he
801
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does take a soccer ball to the nuts. But uh,
802
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I would say it's very likely, you know, just an
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overall overall thinking about that movie, I would say it's
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very likely. Uh, one of my probably one of them
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on this list, you know, on that time, that's one
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that I feel like is not as good as some
807
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of the others personally.
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Oh wait, I thought you were gonna name another movie.
809
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You're saying Big Green is not? Yeah, I don't. It
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is the one that sticks out. I The only reason
811
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I know that movie is from that poster at Roaster. Yeah,
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that's the only thing. The better soccer movie, in my opinion,
813
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is nineteen ninety two's Lady Bugs. Now, please tell me
814
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that you you know this Rodney Dangerfield classic.
815
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Yes, I do know this Rodney Dangerfield classic. But I again,
816
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I haven't seen this one in a long time either.
817
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Okay, this is Rodney Dangerfield plays Chester, but as in
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most Rodney Dangerfield movies, he's basically just playing Rodney Dangerfield
819
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right right now. He gets into some kind of trouble,
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some kind of shenanigans. I think he's trying to kiss
821
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up to his boss, and he pretends that he knows
822
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a lot about soccer and that he can coach this
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the soccer team, which is a girl soccer team. Well,
824
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once you know, this girl soccer team is not very good,
825
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so Rodney Dangerfield gets his I think girlfriend's son played
826
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by Jonathan Brandis big, big decade for Jonathan Brandis in
827
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the nineties. You know he was, he was all over
828
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the place. But then it takes a little bit of
829
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a turn, as some of these older movies do. Rodney
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Dangerfield decides to put a wig on Jonathan Brandis and
831
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make her him pretend to be a girl to play
832
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on the girl soccer team, and once you know, a
833
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bunch of hijinks ensue. Again, this sticks out because again
834
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this is ninety two. This is the first time I
835
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saw Vanessa Shaw, and she would pop up again in
836
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the movie hocus Pocus, and I would say that is
837
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was the beginning of an awakening for me, and I
838
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won't go too much further into that, only that she
839
00:47:24.880 --> 00:47:29.599
played a big part in my maturing. One last thing
840
00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:32.079
on Lady Books, I really don't think they had an
841
00:47:32.199 --> 00:47:35.719
ending to the movie planned out, So I'm almost positive
842
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that the movie ends with them zooming in on Rodney
843
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Dangerfield's character after they win the soccer tournament. But someone
844
00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:44.400
just kind of made a quip to him, and he
845
00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:47.519
looks at the camera and goes, I get no respect,
846
00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:52.440
and then it just it just freeze springs and zooms
847
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:57.119
in on Rodney Dangerfield's face, making the Rodney Dangerfield face
848
00:47:57.559 --> 00:47:59.280
like that, Roddy, how do you want to end this?
849
00:47:59.519 --> 00:47:59.679
Well?
850
00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:01.880
No, no, how about I'll get no respect?
851
00:48:02.679 --> 00:48:02.920
Right?
852
00:48:03.639 --> 00:48:08.119
Credit cuts the credits. We did it? Okay, all right,
853
00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:13.199
I've said my I've said my Lady Bugs piece. I
854
00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:16.480
do have kind of a general theory about a lot
855
00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:18.440
of these movies, but I want to make sure we're
856
00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:21.480
are there any others? Are there any others you wanted
857
00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:24.239
to touch on or ones that you think Skate would
858
00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:26.159
be mad that we didn't Okay, we didn't really talk
859
00:48:26.239 --> 00:48:31.239
Mighty Ducks. Can you were you a huge Mighty Ducks fan?
860
00:48:31.400 --> 00:48:34.639
Do you have a favorite one? Because a lot of
861
00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:36.880
the Mighty Ducks guys we kind of see pop up
862
00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:37.559
later on.
863
00:48:38.760 --> 00:48:41.599
Oh yeah, I absolutely love the Mighty Ducks movies, the
864
00:48:41.639 --> 00:48:43.840
first two. I like the first two a lot. The
865
00:48:43.840 --> 00:48:47.519
first one is probably my favorite. Before I get into that,
866
00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:51.679
when you said big, Big decade for Jonathan Brandis, well
867
00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:53.880
I clicked on that and realized the movie we left
868
00:48:53.920 --> 00:48:57.400
off this list was Sidekicks with Jonathan Brandis and Chuck Norris.
869
00:48:57.800 --> 00:49:01.599
Chuck Norris, I love that year?
870
00:49:01.719 --> 00:49:09.519
Was that Chuck obviously? And then also but bring the
871
00:49:09.559 --> 00:49:11.880
party down? Did you know Jonathan Brandis died in two
872
00:49:11.920 --> 00:49:16.440
thousand and three? This is supposed to be Guess one
873
00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:18.119
episode and it's kind of seeming tragic.
874
00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:22.400
I sometimes get Devin Salah and Jonathan Brandis mixed up.
875
00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:26.039
I'm sorry to those guys. I did not know that,
876
00:49:26.320 --> 00:49:30.519
But yeah, thanks for chatting all over this. I'm sure.
877
00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:34.079
I'm sure it wasn't like, uh, drug or partying related,
878
00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:37.000
not to be smirch his memory, but hopefully it was
879
00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:42.199
by natural natural causes. What do you have it from you?
880
00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:43.639
What year was Sidekicks.
881
00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:47.280
Sidekicks was nineteen ninety two, the same year as a Lady.
882
00:49:47.400 --> 00:49:52.360
Okay, yep, kind of early on. But Mighty Ducks we
883
00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:55.760
get Joshua Jackson we get and now I'm going to
884
00:49:55.840 --> 00:49:58.840
forget his name? Who plays Goldie? Who plays Goldberg because
885
00:49:58.880 --> 00:49:59.239
we're going to.
886
00:49:59.239 --> 00:50:02.239
Talk about God? I don't know, but he is.
887
00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:09.239
Let's pull it Ducks cast. The weird thing about going
888
00:50:09.239 --> 00:50:11.719
to the cast of these movies is all of their pictures.
889
00:50:11.760 --> 00:50:16.000
Now it's all the pictures are of them as adults,
890
00:50:16.000 --> 00:50:18.639
and it really throws you off. So, yeah, Sean Weise
891
00:50:18.719 --> 00:50:22.360
plays Goldberg in it. Who else do we have here?
892
00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:31.880
Joshua Jackson obviously the Coachlio Emilio Stavez. Let's see when did.
893
00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:37.599
What was Keenan in the first one?
894
00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:42.239
That's that was the exact question I was asking you?
895
00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:45.599
Or did he just pop up? He's in the he's
896
00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:51.480
like the US. Oh yeah, he's he hasn't had any
897
00:50:51.480 --> 00:51:01.119
problems Mighty Ducks two cast. Okay, so Keenan shows up,
898
00:51:01.119 --> 00:51:03.960
but he's he's Russ Tyler. I think he's like the
899
00:51:04.039 --> 00:51:06.320
brother that comes into help. Doesn't he teach them? Like
900
00:51:06.360 --> 00:51:08.880
the knuckle puck in the second movie, the Skeke's just
901
00:51:08.920 --> 00:51:12.840
gonna be screaming at the I prefer to quite a
902
00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:15.440
bit over one. Do you agree with that or do
903
00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:17.320
you kind of hold them?
904
00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:21.039
I feel it's both pretty similar. But I think I
905
00:51:21.079 --> 00:51:22.960
think D two they hit a pretty that was kind
906
00:51:23.000 --> 00:51:25.800
of a sweet spot with the whole you know, with
907
00:51:25.840 --> 00:51:30.440
what happens in it, most of these actors elevating it
908
00:51:30.519 --> 00:51:36.400
beyond Philadelphia. In Philadelphia, that's just a goalie Goldbridge jersey.
909
00:51:36.440 --> 00:51:44.679
He wears that first. Mighty Ducks, Mighty Ducks two. Yeah. Three.
910
00:51:44.840 --> 00:51:47.559
I even told my my daughter has been going back
911
00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:50.360
and watching a lot of these movies, and you know
912
00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:53.039
how kids will just do the exact opposite of what
913
00:51:53.119 --> 00:51:56.840
you say or or think. I think, just to do
914
00:51:56.920 --> 00:51:59.760
the opposite of what you tell them to do. I
915
00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:01.400
told my darter, I'm like, look, you don't even have
916
00:52:01.400 --> 00:52:03.159
to watch May Ducks three. It's not that good. It's
917
00:52:03.199 --> 00:52:06.159
not my favorite. Like a week later, I think Mighty
918
00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:09.119
X three is my favorite. Like, okay, all right, I
919
00:52:09.159 --> 00:52:11.199
see what you're doing here, I see what you're doing.
920
00:52:12.400 --> 00:52:17.519
Let's talk about in gold at her for having poor taste.
921
00:52:18.519 --> 00:52:23.039
Well, I did what as a throwback to my King
922
00:52:23.159 --> 00:52:29.559
Arthur episode earlier this week, when Stellin Stellin scarsguard says
923
00:52:29.639 --> 00:52:32.800
to his son played by Till Scheiger, if you have
924
00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:35.920
a disobey me again, I'll kill you where you stand.
925
00:52:36.400 --> 00:52:39.280
That's kind of how I, uh, how I speak to
926
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my children. So I have a theory, and I need
927
00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:48.840
to look up kind of the the evidence to my theory.
928
00:52:49.559 --> 00:52:54.679
But I think we have broached Jim Varney before on
929
00:52:54.719 --> 00:52:58.199
this podcast. But tell me again what your relationship is
930
00:52:58.239 --> 00:53:02.840
to the Earnest movies Ernest famously played by the late
931
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Jim Varney.
932
00:53:05.559 --> 00:53:08.599
I can, really, I can very clearly remember Ernest going
933
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to camp. I can't remember what the conflict is. I
934
00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:15.760
remember they're shooting lemons with like a lemon cannon at
935
00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:20.199
some point. I remember that. I clearly remember Ernest going
936
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to prison and somehow surviving the electric chair, and I
937
00:53:25.599 --> 00:53:29.679
also remember Ernest being skipched to Oh. I do remember
938
00:53:29.679 --> 00:53:33.239
those three things happening. And I also remember Jim Varney
939
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from Beverly Hillbilly's the movie Okay.
940
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Good Good Call. I actually had to. At first, I
941
00:53:40.280 --> 00:53:42.039
had this list of all of these movies, and I
942
00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:44.960
had every single Earnest movie on there. But when I
943
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:47.280
got to like nineteen ninety six and Ernest was going
944
00:53:47.320 --> 00:53:51.440
to Africa, I'm like, okay, no, I'm taking I'm taking
945
00:53:51.480 --> 00:53:53.039
these off. So I only left two of them. But
946
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you mentioned so nineteen eighty seven Ernest goes to Camp.
947
00:53:57.639 --> 00:54:00.320
Let me read the description of this movie and tell
948
00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:03.559
me what other movie it kind of sounds like. So
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00:54:03.719 --> 00:54:06.960
nineteen eighty seven Ernest Goes to Camp, starring Jim Varney
950
00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:10.960
as the clumsy but good hearted, good hearted Ernest p
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00:54:11.199 --> 00:54:17.760
Whirl who becomes a counselor at the Rundown Camp Kick
952
00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:23.920
a Key, a summer camp for juvenile delinquents. While initially
953
00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:28.480
being bullied by these juvenile delinquent campers, he eventually must
954
00:54:28.559 --> 00:54:33.039
lead the rebellious campers to victory against a greedy construction
955
00:54:33.239 --> 00:54:38.000
foreman who's trying to shut down the camp. Now, Tim,
956
00:54:38.039 --> 00:54:42.320
do you think that Ernest goes to camp walked so
957
00:54:42.360 --> 00:54:45.639
that heavyweights could run? Sounds a lot. Sounds very similar,
958
00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:46.880
doesn't it.
959
00:54:46.880 --> 00:54:49.719
It does sound very similar. It also sounds very similar
960
00:54:49.719 --> 00:54:52.760
to like all those eighties skiing movies where there's a
961
00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:56.000
developer coming that's going to like change this, you know,
962
00:54:56.880 --> 00:54:59.159
change the ski to all the condos or something to
963
00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:02.360
make it high out all the ski school people can't
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00:55:02.360 --> 00:55:03.280
afford it anymore.
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00:55:03.840 --> 00:55:09.320
Thankfully, that doesn't happen anymore. Thankfully, rich real estate developers
966
00:55:09.840 --> 00:55:11.920
no longer come into our lives and try and ruin
967
00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:13.880
it for us. I'm glad that was a trend that
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00:55:14.320 --> 00:55:18.199
ended in the eighties. So I had to mention that
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00:55:18.199 --> 00:55:20.280
earth just because it was nineteen eighty seven. So I
970
00:55:20.280 --> 00:55:23.280
think it was a good kind of built a good
971
00:55:23.320 --> 00:55:25.559
foundation for a lot of the movies that we would like.
972
00:55:25.679 --> 00:55:28.280
And then Ernest Scared Stupid was in nineteen ninety one.
973
00:55:28.760 --> 00:55:32.159
I think I told the story during Halloween. I tried
974
00:55:32.199 --> 00:55:35.880
to show this movie to the creatures from the Lagoon.
975
00:55:36.159 --> 00:55:39.159
My ten year old daughter loved it. My eight year
976
00:55:39.159 --> 00:55:42.920
old eight year old Bye about a third of the
977
00:55:42.920 --> 00:55:46.599
way into the movie when they introduced the trolls. Again,
978
00:55:46.639 --> 00:55:50.079
this is like nineteen ninety one, so it's like practical effects.
979
00:55:50.440 --> 00:55:55.639
It's like gross, ugly looking, probably little people in troll outfits,
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00:55:56.199 --> 00:56:00.000
and my son start My eight year old Bye starts
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00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:05.880
trying screaming, tells me you've ruined me, You've ruined You're
982
00:56:05.880 --> 00:56:08.159
going to need to give me nightmares. I'm never watching
983
00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:10.639
another movie again. And I'll be damned if that boy
984
00:56:10.679 --> 00:56:13.559
hasn't really watched too many movies since Ernest scared stupid,
985
00:56:13.599 --> 00:56:17.559
So I may have completely ruined his his love of movies.
986
00:56:18.960 --> 00:56:22.280
But that's kind of my favorite. I tried telling him.
987
00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:24.440
I'm like, no, I'm like, Ernest is gonna get you know.
988
00:56:24.599 --> 00:56:27.079
At one point, Ernest drives over a troll and goes,
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00:56:29.039 --> 00:56:33.400
Ernest goes, I hope you like a bumper sandwich bugger lips.
990
00:56:33.559 --> 00:56:36.360
I'm like, that's like the best thing is a kid? Like,
991
00:56:36.360 --> 00:56:41.519
how could you not like that as a kid. Okay,
992
00:56:43.760 --> 00:56:45.760
I do think we need to because we're gonna, We're
993
00:56:45.760 --> 00:56:49.119
gonna really we want to sink in and really spend
994
00:56:49.159 --> 00:56:52.519
some time with heavyweights. But I'd be remiss. Is there
995
00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:56.760
anything else on this list? The Wizard nineteen eighty six,
996
00:56:57.360 --> 00:57:00.920
a very very early video game movie with one of
997
00:57:00.960 --> 00:57:01.679
the savages.
998
00:57:01.840 --> 00:57:07.760
Oh, I've seen that one of those bad.
999
00:57:07.559 --> 00:57:10.840
Ass, badass movie. There's a scene. There's a part where
1000
00:57:11.400 --> 00:57:13.320
that one of the savages, I can't remember which one
1001
00:57:13.360 --> 00:57:17.880
it is, Fred goes to try and kiss a girl.
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00:57:18.159 --> 00:57:20.960
I think he kisses her, but then she punches him
1003
00:57:20.960 --> 00:57:23.159
so hard that it knocks him out, and for the
1004
00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:25.719
longest time, I thought, oh shit, that's what's gonna happen
1005
00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:28.199
if I ever try and kiss a girl. So thanks
1006
00:57:28.239 --> 00:57:31.079
for that. That's the wizard that was eighty six.
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00:57:33.280 --> 00:57:36.679
Do you no, I'll tell the Heavyweights. Let's get into
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00:57:36.719 --> 00:57:37.199
health rates.
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00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:39.920
All right. Let me take a big Let me take
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00:57:39.960 --> 00:57:41.199
a big drink of water here.
1011
00:57:41.960 --> 00:57:43.920
All right, I'm going to bring up I'm just gonna
1012
00:57:43.920 --> 00:57:49.000
look up Heavyweights on the computer. What I have is
1013
00:57:49.400 --> 00:57:51.000
I have everything ready to rock here.
1014
00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:55.519
I have the Wikipedia. But then I also have a
1015
00:57:55.559 --> 00:57:59.480
tablet right here where I'm actually playing and watching the movie.
1016
00:58:00.159 --> 00:58:04.400
So I think what I'm going to do is do
1017
00:58:04.519 --> 00:58:09.239
a rough like walk through, not seen by scene. But
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00:58:09.280 --> 00:58:12.119
we're gonna start from the beginning. I'm going to try
1019
00:58:12.159 --> 00:58:14.320
and tell the tale. Tim can interrupt at any point
1020
00:58:14.320 --> 00:58:17.320
with things that I missed. We're trying cover best lines,
1021
00:58:17.400 --> 00:58:22.039
biggest questions. Go from kind of a start to finish
1022
00:58:22.039 --> 00:58:25.840
here and really give this movie some love. Tim. Do
1023
00:58:25.880 --> 00:58:30.119
you remember the badass song that opens up the movie
1024
00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:31.960
of Heavyweights? Do you want to sing it?
1025
00:58:32.679 --> 00:58:34.360
I don't remember the song? What is it?
1026
00:58:35.960 --> 00:58:39.039
People? You know big fans of Party of Five from
1027
00:58:39.039 --> 00:58:42.519
the nineties speaking of nineties mainstays, people who love Party
1028
00:58:42.519 --> 00:58:47.239
of Five might also remember the Closer to Free song
1029
00:58:47.320 --> 00:58:52.719
that plays Everybody wants to Live, They want to live,
1030
00:58:53.599 --> 00:59:01.119
Everybody wants to be closer to Free. So we're introduced
1031
00:59:01.119 --> 00:59:04.000
to you remember his name right to him, last name
1032
00:59:04.000 --> 00:59:05.000
and first name? What is it?
1033
00:59:05.320 --> 00:59:08.559
Gardner, Gerald, god Na Jerald.
1034
00:59:09.079 --> 00:59:12.800
So again we're gonna try not to be little these kids.
1035
00:59:12.800 --> 00:59:15.679
But it is a movie about fat camp and fat kids.
1036
00:59:16.400 --> 00:59:18.000
I will tell you when I first tried to show
1037
00:59:18.000 --> 00:59:20.519
this movie, I think it was like during when Disney
1038
00:59:20.519 --> 00:59:24.199
Plus first popped up, popped up, so like round COVID,
1039
00:59:24.760 --> 00:59:27.119
I'm like, holy shit, they got heavyweights on here. Let's
1040
00:59:27.159 --> 00:59:30.000
let the kids watch. And within the first couple of minutes,
1041
00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:35.119
Gerald says to his father, Jeffrey Tambour, you're fat. Why
1042
00:59:35.159 --> 00:59:37.519
don't you go to fat It's fat camp. Won't you
1043
00:59:37.559 --> 00:59:38.599
go to fat camp.
1044
00:59:38.599 --> 00:59:39.239
Better than me?
1045
00:59:39.760 --> 00:59:43.400
Are you better than me? My partner goes, Nope, Nope,
1046
00:59:43.480 --> 00:59:46.079
we're not watching this. So we did have to more
1047
00:59:46.119 --> 00:59:49.679
recently come back to it last year. But that's how
1048
00:59:49.719 --> 00:59:53.840
it opens. Jeffrey Tambour, you remember the other gentleman that's
1049
00:59:53.840 --> 00:59:56.039
pitching the camp, right, do you recognize who that was.
1050
00:59:57.840 --> 01:00:01.920
No, I'm looking at some of the other people in there. Oh, okay,
1051
01:00:02.599 --> 01:00:07.679
who it is who pitched the camp to him? Cohen Brothers, Nelson?
1052
01:00:08.159 --> 01:00:12.039
There you go, it's Tim Blake Nelson. Go watch the
1053
01:00:12.199 --> 01:00:14.360
Ballad of Buster Scrugs if you want to see something
1054
01:00:14.400 --> 01:00:18.280
more recent with him. But so Jerald gets home, finds
1055
01:00:18.280 --> 01:00:21.480
out his dad, Jeffrey tam Boorr wants to send him
1056
01:00:21.519 --> 01:00:27.559
to a fat camp. Very quickly, he is basically forced
1057
01:00:27.599 --> 01:00:31.280
to do it. The bus arrives, and then who is
1058
01:00:31.280 --> 01:00:33.400
it that we meet that's driving the bus?
1059
01:00:33.639 --> 01:00:37.679
Tim is Pat driving the bus.
1060
01:00:38.360 --> 01:00:42.880
Pat gets off the bus, right, he says, Or he
1061
01:00:42.880 --> 01:00:44.880
gets on a plane first. Okay, So Jerald gets on
1062
01:00:44.880 --> 01:00:47.599
the plane and that's when he meets Keenan Thompson. That's
1063
01:00:47.599 --> 01:00:52.800
famously when he gets the the wings from the the
1064
01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:57.280
airplane captain, right, and the wings being called Captain. That's
1065
01:00:57.360 --> 01:01:01.360
going to to come up later. But Keenan, do you
1066
01:01:01.360 --> 01:01:05.840
remember how Keenan picks out uh, picks out Gerald as
1067
01:01:05.880 --> 01:01:07.639
going to the camp. Do you remember what he says?
1068
01:01:09.159 --> 01:01:10.800
I just remember he walks out to him and says,
1069
01:01:11.000 --> 01:01:11.880
going to fat camp?
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01:01:15.039 --> 01:01:17.880
What do you mean? How do you know because you're
1071
01:01:18.559 --> 01:01:19.320
because you're fat.
1072
01:01:20.320 --> 01:01:22.320
Okay, so I'm going to fat Camp.
1073
01:01:23.880 --> 01:01:29.119
You're fat too. Uh. So they they get there, they
1074
01:01:29.159 --> 01:01:32.000
do get on the bus. There's some ridiculous things that
1075
01:01:32.039 --> 01:01:37.480
Pat says to them about getting on the bus. And
1076
01:01:37.519 --> 01:01:40.320
then when they do get to Oh, first of all,
1077
01:01:40.320 --> 01:01:43.360
don't they see one of the big kids alongside the
1078
01:01:43.440 --> 01:01:45.679
road when they're going into camp Pope, Like one of
1079
01:01:45.719 --> 01:01:49.280
the kids is like standing outside waving a stick, shaking
1080
01:01:49.320 --> 01:01:49.719
his head.
1081
01:01:49.920 --> 01:01:51.760
No, no, beware.
1082
01:01:53.960 --> 01:01:58.800
So they get to they pull him. They're unloading all
1083
01:01:58.800 --> 01:02:01.519
their crap off the bus. This is when we meet
1084
01:02:02.119 --> 01:02:05.639
another of the camp counselors. Do you remember his name?
1085
01:02:07.880 --> 01:02:13.599
And Tim? Yep, they meet Tim Paul Figue who's a
1086
01:02:14.039 --> 01:02:18.360
quite famous director. Now, the Tim character, famously, we learn,
1087
01:02:19.079 --> 01:02:22.239
used to be fat, but then he got skinny. So
1088
01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:25.960
all of the kids are just taking turns making He
1089
01:02:26.079 --> 01:02:30.920
is wearing a crop top and some jean shorts some sort.
1090
01:02:33.639 --> 01:02:36.320
So I can't remember many of the insults that they
1091
01:02:36.320 --> 01:02:41.239
are giving Tim. Do any of them any come to mind?
1092
01:02:41.280 --> 01:02:43.719
Because you make fun of skinny people all the time, Tim,
1093
01:02:43.760 --> 01:02:46.159
Are there any good go tos that they don't remember?
1094
01:02:46.159 --> 01:02:48.519
The insults? I just remember His response is like, you
1095
01:02:48.559 --> 01:02:51.000
guys are just jealous of these buns of steel, and
1096
01:02:51.039 --> 01:02:53.119
you know he's kind of hamming it up.
1097
01:02:53.840 --> 01:02:59.000
He starts dancing. He starts dancing and shaking his butt.
1098
01:02:59.079 --> 01:03:03.079
We also meet who who will be the the love interest,
1099
01:03:04.519 --> 01:03:07.880
Nurse Julie. I don't know that actress's name, but I
1100
01:03:07.880 --> 01:03:09.920
don't think no offense to her. I don't think she
1101
01:03:10.039 --> 01:03:11.159
became very famous.
1102
01:03:11.519 --> 01:03:15.440
So we get Leah Laylee in a she's looking pretty
1103
01:03:15.440 --> 01:03:18.119
good in this picture for her, for.
1104
01:03:18.119 --> 01:03:24.039
You, Leah, come on the show. So everything's pretty normal.
1105
01:03:24.119 --> 01:03:29.639
They get to camp. They Pat shows him to the dorm,
1106
01:03:29.719 --> 01:03:32.920
to the cabin that they're in and what is what?
1107
01:03:32.920 --> 01:03:35.079
What cabin name do they have? Tim?
1108
01:03:35.119 --> 01:03:37.280
Do you remember the chipmunks?
1109
01:03:38.159 --> 01:03:42.400
The Chipmunks? And famously there is a scene where okay,
1110
01:03:42.440 --> 01:03:49.760
so we've we've also met Sean Weiss's character Josh, and
1111
01:03:49.800 --> 01:03:52.039
you can tell that Josh is kind of the season vet.
1112
01:03:52.079 --> 01:03:54.119
You know, he's been there for a while, kind of
1113
01:03:54.159 --> 01:03:58.079
knows everything that's going on. Pats, you know, helps them
1114
01:03:58.239 --> 01:04:02.159
unload everything. Then Pat leaves and then what does Josh
1115
01:04:02.199 --> 01:04:04.880
famously say to all of the what what happens? And
1116
01:04:05.000 --> 01:04:08.679
what does Josh famously say when they get into their cabin.
1117
01:04:09.480 --> 01:04:13.360
Well, Jerry comes, you know, after Roy introduces Jerry to Josh,
1118
01:04:13.440 --> 01:04:16.800
you know, kind of vouches for him. Jerry says, Hey,
1119
01:04:16.800 --> 01:04:19.280
don't tell anyone, but I snuck some oreos in and
1120
01:04:19.679 --> 01:04:22.199
Josh says, that was very sneaky of you, Jerry. And
1121
01:04:22.239 --> 01:04:26.039
then he turns and he says, chipmunks download. And you
1122
01:04:26.079 --> 01:04:29.719
just see every kid in this cabin emptying out. There's
1123
01:04:30.599 --> 01:04:33.400
backpacks and then duffel bags of just all the candy
1124
01:04:33.599 --> 01:04:38.440
and deli meats, delly meat.
1125
01:04:40.800 --> 01:04:44.159
But what would you sneak in to camp? Tim? Have
1126
01:04:44.280 --> 01:04:45.159
you thought about this?
1127
01:04:47.599 --> 01:04:52.400
You know, it's tough to say, because I think that
1128
01:04:52.480 --> 01:04:55.920
you would probably want something that you can kind of
1129
01:04:56.639 --> 01:04:58.840
it's gonna kind of last, you know, for a while.
1130
01:04:58.880 --> 01:05:01.079
So maybe like a pack of yips, you know, a
1131
01:05:01.079 --> 01:05:03.679
good bag of bag of like sour cream andig and
1132
01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:06.320
chips or something I can kind of trumple up and
1133
01:05:06.400 --> 01:05:08.559
height under a pillow or something, or inside a pill I.
1134
01:05:08.559 --> 01:05:12.559
Don't think they'd get smashed. I'd be worried that they'd.
1135
01:05:12.400 --> 01:05:15.320
Get smashed in the luggage.
1136
01:05:16.599 --> 01:05:18.480
I do think we're gonna end up finding out that
1137
01:05:18.559 --> 01:05:22.159
probably the deli meats is probably the safest. It won't
1138
01:05:22.199 --> 01:05:27.079
get destroyed. They won't get destroyed. They will last a
1139
01:05:27.119 --> 01:05:30.840
long time. Lots of protein to keep you know, to
1140
01:05:30.920 --> 01:05:31.480
keep your.
1141
01:05:32.199 --> 01:05:36.239
And any of these kids are concerned about their protein. Unfortunately.
1142
01:05:37.000 --> 01:05:39.320
Well, we saw what happened when they do chocolate, because
1143
01:05:39.360 --> 01:05:42.400
what happens to Nicholas. He has the chocolate wrapped around
1144
01:05:42.440 --> 01:05:43.760
his body, but then it melted.
1145
01:05:44.559 --> 01:05:51.440
Yeah, uh yeah, we never did talk about the Hungarian
1146
01:05:51.519 --> 01:05:56.199
scene in Marty Supreme, when the Hungarian ping pong player
1147
01:05:56.239 --> 01:06:00.519
talks about when he was in a concentration camp during
1148
01:06:00.559 --> 01:06:02.719
World War two and the Nazis.
1149
01:06:02.800 --> 01:06:07.960
The Nazis made him go out and disarm bombs. And
1150
01:06:08.760 --> 01:06:12.719
when this Hungarian tennis player who was in a concentration
1151
01:06:12.880 --> 01:06:17.639
camp was out disarming bombs, he found a beehive and
1152
01:06:17.679 --> 01:06:21.480
he smoked out all the bees and then lathered himself
1153
01:06:21.639 --> 01:06:24.800
up with all the honey on his body and then
1154
01:06:24.840 --> 01:06:27.840
went back to the concentration camp so all of the
1155
01:06:27.880 --> 01:06:31.800
other Hungarian Jews that were in the concentration camp could
1156
01:06:31.880 --> 01:06:35.039
lick the honey off of his body so that they
1157
01:06:35.079 --> 01:06:38.599
could stay alive. Do you think that Safti saw this
1158
01:06:38.719 --> 01:06:42.599
scene of Nicholas in heavyweights where they licked the chocolate
1159
01:06:42.639 --> 01:06:44.840
off of them, and that was the inspiration for that
1160
01:06:44.880 --> 01:06:45.960
scene in Marty Supreme.
1161
01:06:46.800 --> 01:06:48.400
I don't see any other way that he could have
1162
01:06:48.440 --> 01:06:49.039
come up with that.
1163
01:06:49.880 --> 01:06:52.559
I agree, I agree, all right. So they download, we
1164
01:06:52.599 --> 01:06:54.760
find out that there's kind of the secret system of
1165
01:06:54.800 --> 01:06:58.920
sneaking in snacks to camp Hope here. So these kids
1166
01:06:58.920 --> 01:07:01.199
are kind of skirting the rule to get around the
1167
01:07:02.119 --> 01:07:05.679
goal of losing weight at this camp by hoarding away sweets.
1168
01:07:05.800 --> 01:07:09.760
We also see a giant trunk is moved and there's
1169
01:07:09.840 --> 01:07:14.480
a a giant, you know, secret compartment in the floor
1170
01:07:14.679 --> 01:07:17.360
where they dump all this food. All good, foreshadowing to
1171
01:07:17.400 --> 01:07:21.119
what's gonna come. Yeah, all right, then it's time to
1172
01:07:21.119 --> 01:07:26.599
meet the Bushkins. Oh, I need a drink of water.
1173
01:07:26.599 --> 01:07:28.239
Who plays the Bushkins? Tim?
1174
01:07:28.599 --> 01:07:33.079
The Bushkins are played by I believe Ben Stiller's parents, Well,
1175
01:07:33.079 --> 01:07:35.320
I know that. I think that might be his mother too.
1176
01:07:35.400 --> 01:07:39.480
I'm not not positive. Jerry Stiller, and I need to
1177
01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:42.360
I'm trying to. I'm drawn a blank on her name
1178
01:07:42.440 --> 01:07:42.840
right now.
1179
01:07:44.039 --> 01:07:51.039
Oh no, and Mirah and Mirah yep, husband Jerry Stiller
1180
01:07:52.320 --> 01:07:55.760
and you know, mother to Ben Stiller, who's going to
1181
01:07:55.800 --> 01:07:58.639
come up very soon here. So we meet the Bushkins.
1182
01:07:58.679 --> 01:08:01.800
They come in. That's how we started the show. Missus
1183
01:08:01.800 --> 01:08:04.480
Bushkin gave a hello campers, and the whole camp goes
1184
01:08:04.559 --> 01:08:07.239
hi hi hi.
1185
01:08:11.199 --> 01:08:13.920
That they are kind of underwater though, and that they
1186
01:08:13.920 --> 01:08:14.719
had to steal.
1187
01:08:15.719 --> 01:08:18.560
Yeah, very quickly, they're losing the camp, which leads to
1188
01:08:18.600 --> 01:08:25.520
the famous line as Jerry Stiller's walking off, Jerry Stiller screams,
1189
01:08:26.039 --> 01:08:32.239
never let anyone else sign you checks, which, you know, hey,
1190
01:08:33.039 --> 01:08:35.840
even look at today, our current president could even say,
1191
01:08:35.920 --> 01:08:38.680
you know, that's lessons that he wished he would have
1192
01:08:39.479 --> 01:08:41.760
listened to. So for all of our listeners, never let
1193
01:08:41.800 --> 01:08:44.000
anyone else sign your checks. So then we meet the
1194
01:08:44.039 --> 01:08:46.680
new owner. What's the name of the new owner.
1195
01:08:46.439 --> 01:08:49.560
Tim played by Ben Stiller.
1196
01:08:50.199 --> 01:08:53.760
Okay, what's his goal? What happens then? When when who
1197
01:08:53.760 --> 01:08:56.600
we learned to call Uncle Tony. What happens when he
1198
01:08:56.640 --> 01:08:59.159
shows up? Oh?
1199
01:08:59.199 --> 01:09:01.760
Well, you know it. It's quite clear that there's gonna
1200
01:09:01.760 --> 01:09:04.359
be a big change of plans. You know that Camp
1201
01:09:04.399 --> 01:09:07.159
Hope isn't going to be a fun time for the
1202
01:09:07.279 --> 01:09:11.239
heavy little children. That he's gonna really whip them in
1203
01:09:11.239 --> 01:09:13.520
the shape. They're going to eat success for breakfasts with
1204
01:09:13.560 --> 01:09:19.439
skim milk. I specifically remember that, and uh, just you know,
1205
01:09:19.720 --> 01:09:22.239
he he's serious about getting these kids in shape. He
1206
01:09:22.279 --> 01:09:24.720
says something like when he was twelve years old, he
1207
01:09:24.800 --> 01:09:27.399
weighed four hundred pounds or something like that, you know,
1208
01:09:27.520 --> 01:09:32.079
something totally unbelievable. And this is also too. You know,
1209
01:09:32.399 --> 01:09:35.079
everyone came eventually, we all came to know and love
1210
01:09:35.199 --> 01:09:37.920
Ben Siller, but early on he was playing these roles like,
1211
01:09:37.960 --> 01:09:41.359
you know, like the nurse in Happy Gillmore and you
1212
01:09:41.399 --> 01:09:43.640
know Tony Purkis and this more of like kind of
1213
01:09:43.640 --> 01:09:47.119
like his dodgeball roles with this, uh this mean kind
1214
01:09:47.159 --> 01:09:49.319
of cruel, sadistic personality, and.
1215
01:09:49.359 --> 01:09:51.640
Uh well that's why I wanted to ask, was this
1216
01:09:51.720 --> 01:09:56.800
the first because this was this movie was before Happy Gilmore.
1217
01:09:57.319 --> 01:10:00.399
Was this the first time? I know he had a show.
1218
01:10:00.439 --> 01:10:02.279
I know Ben Stilla was maybe on like some MTV
1219
01:10:02.359 --> 01:10:04.319
show before, but I feel like this was our first.
1220
01:10:05.920 --> 01:10:08.279
This was the first time we met him. In my
1221
01:10:09.119 --> 01:10:11.479
as I'm trying to think back, Yeah.
1222
01:10:11.279 --> 01:10:13.239
I would think, I would think so. He might have
1223
01:10:13.279 --> 01:10:16.119
been in movies like reality reality bites that were for
1224
01:10:16.199 --> 01:10:21.079
you know, older you know, older people were watching, But
1225
01:10:21.119 --> 01:10:22.760
for me, this would have been the first time I
1226
01:10:22.800 --> 01:10:23.520
ever saw him.
1227
01:10:24.239 --> 01:10:27.800
Okay, So, uh, the Bushkins declared bankruptcy and the camp
1228
01:10:27.840 --> 01:10:32.199
has been bought by fitness entrepreneur entrepreneur Tony Purkis Junior.
1229
01:10:32.920 --> 01:10:35.079
We do meet Tony Purkis Senior near the end of
1230
01:10:35.119 --> 01:10:40.079
this movie. Obviously Perkis wants to implement a weight loss
1231
01:10:40.119 --> 01:10:43.479
program and he's making an infomercial. We also do meet
1232
01:10:43.479 --> 01:10:44.239
his cameraman.
1233
01:10:45.279 --> 01:10:47.039
You're Ailen copt.
1234
01:10:48.920 --> 01:10:52.199
The cameraman again. We will see later on as the
1235
01:10:52.279 --> 01:10:57.479
caddie in Happy Gilmore and then famously as Grandma's Boy
1236
01:10:58.000 --> 01:11:00.439
in Grandma's Boy. Do you think that that's going to
1237
01:11:00.479 --> 01:11:03.000
be the next text we get from Skate at some point?
1238
01:11:03.319 --> 01:11:04.279
Do Grandma's Boy?
1239
01:11:05.479 --> 01:11:07.840
I would welcome that we haven't already gotten it, to
1240
01:11:07.880 --> 01:11:08.640
be honest with you.
1241
01:11:09.079 --> 01:11:13.439
Okay, So Tony comes in. Purkis comes in, starts getting
1242
01:11:13.520 --> 01:11:15.760
rid of all of the kind of beloved camp you
1243
01:11:15.760 --> 01:11:19.439
know activities. He scraps the go carts. We learned that
1244
01:11:20.239 --> 01:11:23.000
Gardner Gerald was very excited to ride the go carts.
1245
01:11:24.560 --> 01:11:27.319
They had something called the blob out on the lake
1246
01:11:27.520 --> 01:11:29.520
where we see, you know, one kid sits at the
1247
01:11:29.600 --> 01:11:32.399
end of the blob, then another kid jumps on it
1248
01:11:32.439 --> 01:11:36.239
and it launches the first kid into the water. We
1249
01:11:36.279 --> 01:11:39.479
see the death of the blob, and that was performed
1250
01:11:39.520 --> 01:11:42.520
by a new counselor that we meet who will be
1251
01:11:42.560 --> 01:11:47.560
heading up the Chipmunk cabin. Tim please tell the listeners
1252
01:11:48.119 --> 01:11:49.920
what the name of this counselor is.
1253
01:11:51.560 --> 01:11:54.319
The new Counselor's name is Lars, and he is all
1254
01:11:54.359 --> 01:11:57.039
in on the Tony Purkis Purkis system. You know, he's
1255
01:11:57.079 --> 01:12:00.000
gonna be Tony's right hand man when it comes to
1256
01:12:00.239 --> 01:12:01.760
the counselors and the staff.
1257
01:12:02.920 --> 01:12:08.239
He uh, he famously said, and I am Lars. That's
1258
01:12:08.279 --> 01:12:08.680
what I think.
1259
01:12:09.520 --> 01:12:12.880
Make the very disturbing sounds. I sleep, I'm happy, frightened.
1260
01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:17.680
I've forgotten about Lars.
1261
01:12:17.800 --> 01:12:19.800
Lars is so funny of this movie.
1262
01:12:20.600 --> 01:12:25.399
Speaking of Troy, if anyone's ever heard his dad snore,
1263
01:12:26.359 --> 01:12:31.640
very similar to the sound that Lars makes when he snores. So, uh.
1264
01:12:32.159 --> 01:12:39.720
They they killed the blob, they start implementing new exercises.
1265
01:12:39.800 --> 01:12:41.399
I'm gonna kind of move fast. I know, I'm gonna
1266
01:12:41.439 --> 01:12:44.960
forget some things. Do they try and do meditation. There's
1267
01:12:44.960 --> 01:12:47.439
something that comes over the loud speakers that is like
1268
01:12:47.560 --> 01:12:52.439
this new age music, and then isn't it Tony saying
1269
01:12:52.479 --> 01:12:53.560
good morning campers.
1270
01:12:54.560 --> 01:13:01.279
Oh yeah, what is he said? Oh no, I'm dead.
1271
01:13:03.960 --> 01:13:06.399
What does Tony get rid of due to lack of hustle?
1272
01:13:06.520 --> 01:13:07.399
He announces that.
1273
01:13:08.000 --> 01:13:10.439
Just one day he canceled lunch will be canceled the
1274
01:13:10.520 --> 01:13:11.239
lack of hustle.
1275
01:13:12.119 --> 01:13:15.079
Do lack of hustle? Okay, I'm trying to do this
1276
01:13:15.119 --> 01:13:19.600
without laughing so hard, so they gosh, I know, I'm
1277
01:13:19.600 --> 01:13:20.239
gonna miss some things.
1278
01:13:20.239 --> 01:13:23.079
Eventually, there's we're finding out all of these new, terrible
1279
01:13:23.119 --> 01:13:25.840
new policies. Because Gerald Gardner is writing a letter to
1280
01:13:25.840 --> 01:13:29.600
his grandma. People don't really understand, you know. They're like, well,
1281
01:13:29.640 --> 01:13:31.239
we sent him there to be lose weight.
1282
01:13:33.279 --> 01:13:36.560
Jeffrey Tambour famously says, we did not send you to
1283
01:13:36.720 --> 01:13:44.159
go kart camp because he's trying to complain. Yeah, because
1284
01:13:44.159 --> 01:13:46.079
they get rid of the go carts at some point
1285
01:13:46.079 --> 01:13:48.600
they have. So we learned that there's another camp across
1286
01:13:48.640 --> 01:13:52.960
the water called Camp MVP that is kind of made
1287
01:13:53.000 --> 01:13:58.119
up of more more athletic, kind of over competitive. I'm
1288
01:13:58.159 --> 01:14:01.039
just gonna come out and say it, like skip skinnier kids,
1289
01:14:01.960 --> 01:14:06.760
It's called Camp MVP. They set up a softball game
1290
01:14:07.359 --> 01:14:11.920
against Camp MVP. You know a number of you know,
1291
01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:14.479
funny things happened at the softball camp. It is around
1292
01:14:14.520 --> 01:14:18.199
the softball camp time though, that we learned that Pat,
1293
01:14:18.239 --> 01:14:22.319
the counselor, has basically just been relegated to like janitorial duties.
1294
01:14:22.880 --> 01:14:27.880
And there is a part where Perkis gets on the
1295
01:14:27.880 --> 01:14:32.399
loud speaker and goes, Pat, please report to the boys bathroom,
1296
01:14:33.039 --> 01:14:38.279
bring a mop and a plunger. I've used that line
1297
01:14:38.479 --> 01:14:41.800
oh a billion times over the course of my life
1298
01:14:41.840 --> 01:14:44.239
after leaving a bathroom and I would say to someone,
1299
01:14:44.600 --> 01:14:49.560
bring a mop and a plunger. Softball game goes bad.
1300
01:14:49.640 --> 01:14:53.199
Is there anything else you remember from the softball game?
1301
01:14:55.119 --> 01:14:57.079
I can't remember if this is before or after the
1302
01:14:57.119 --> 01:15:00.720
softball game. There's also a girl. Basically what Tony is
1303
01:15:00.720 --> 01:15:02.920
trying to do. After a while, when it's clear that
1304
01:15:02.960 --> 01:15:05.560
he's not reaching these kids, and we understand he's not
1305
01:15:05.600 --> 01:15:08.079
reaching these kids when there's a famous scene where they're
1306
01:15:08.079 --> 01:15:12.399
all weigh in and going into the way in going
1307
01:15:12.479 --> 01:15:15.399
unto the way, and I think Tony is quite enthusiastic
1308
01:15:15.479 --> 01:15:18.119
that Hey got these kids working out, Maybe they're not
1309
01:15:18.119 --> 01:15:22.439
going to be losing some weight, and uh, you know,
1310
01:15:22.479 --> 01:15:28.039
we find out Gerald gardner age whatever. Wait you know Jerald, Yeah,
1311
01:15:28.279 --> 01:15:30.560
and you know, well he gained two pounds. You know,
1312
01:15:30.880 --> 01:15:33.319
muscle weighs more than fat, but clear, you know. And
1313
01:15:33.359 --> 01:15:37.439
at one point he sells, uh, I believe Josh, step
1314
01:15:37.479 --> 01:15:41.119
on the scale, step off the scale. You know, it's
1315
01:15:41.119 --> 01:15:42.199
just gets on the scale.
1316
01:15:42.439 --> 01:15:46.079
The scale immediately flips down over I think the two hundred.
1317
01:15:46.359 --> 01:15:49.960
Get on the scale. Well he stops the infomercial to
1318
01:15:50.079 --> 01:15:52.199
like chew them all out, and he goes, okay, start
1319
01:15:52.239 --> 01:15:54.720
it back up, and he gives Josh a high five
1320
01:15:54.760 --> 01:15:57.239
and get on the scale, gets on the scale, get
1321
01:15:57.239 --> 01:15:59.800
off the scale. That's when he really loses you, right,
1322
01:15:59.800 --> 01:16:04.560
I forget where about that pops up? Well? I think
1323
01:16:04.600 --> 01:16:07.560
before that, okay, let's try and get this straight. And
1324
01:16:07.600 --> 01:16:09.119
I could look it up in front of me, but
1325
01:16:09.159 --> 01:16:11.439
you and I should be able to do this. Does
1326
01:16:11.560 --> 01:16:17.680
Josh disappear before the girls dance? Because what happens is
1327
01:16:18.319 --> 01:16:24.000
Tony so Purkis and Lars storm into the chipmunks. Okay,
1328
01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:26.159
that's probably what it is. So they're all overweight, they're
1329
01:16:26.199 --> 01:16:29.039
still gaining weight, and is that when they stormy.
1330
01:16:29.319 --> 01:16:32.319
Like something's going on somehow these kids are cheating. Let's
1331
01:16:32.359 --> 01:16:35.439
go raid their raid their cabin and uh, that's when
1332
01:16:35.439 --> 01:16:38.199
they find all this the hidden snacks and treats. There's
1333
01:16:38.239 --> 01:16:41.000
a great moment where he's like going through the hollow
1334
01:16:41.079 --> 01:16:44.520
bedpost and that's when he finds all the salami. Sam's oh,
1335
01:16:44.520 --> 01:16:46.680
look a deli meat. He's like hitting it and he's
1336
01:16:46.680 --> 01:16:49.439
got like the light and stuff like that.
1337
01:16:51.079 --> 01:16:54.560
Look, you mentioned something. We we we oh a deli meat.
1338
01:16:54.640 --> 01:16:58.000
Sorry I stepped on it. We should uh talk about
1339
01:16:58.039 --> 01:17:01.319
some of the campers because you mentioned salami Sam.
1340
01:17:01.439 --> 01:17:02.399
Yes, we have.
1341
01:17:02.800 --> 01:17:05.880
Uh. I'm gonna just read some of the character names
1342
01:17:05.920 --> 01:17:08.960
because this might jog some of our memories. So again Pat,
1343
01:17:09.000 --> 01:17:19.199
Pat Finley, Josh Lars, Keenan Thompson plays Roy uh where.
1344
01:17:19.319 --> 01:17:22.119
So there's there's Sims. There's Michael Simms. I think he's
1345
01:17:22.159 --> 01:17:22.840
the big guy.
1346
01:17:23.600 --> 01:17:27.800
Simms Is famously said congratulations, you're the fattest kid at
1347
01:17:27.800 --> 01:17:30.800
camp during the waves and everyone cheers for him.
1348
01:17:33.199 --> 01:17:36.239
There's Cody who has like the glasses. At one point,
1349
01:17:36.319 --> 01:17:38.319
Cody goes, we don't want to do this, we want
1350
01:17:38.359 --> 01:17:41.520
to have fun. That's near the end. We'll get to
1351
01:17:41.560 --> 01:17:46.079
that salami Sam, my personal favorite. Just kind of throwing
1352
01:17:46.159 --> 01:17:50.640
that out there. So Salami Sam. So all these kids
1353
01:17:50.680 --> 01:17:53.479
kind of get shook down in their in their camp
1354
01:17:53.680 --> 01:17:56.479
and Purkis finds all there. There's a there's a character
1355
01:17:57.119 --> 01:17:59.439
who was at the camp, went to the camp last year,
1356
01:17:59.760 --> 01:18:02.239
but he's now part of Perkos's system where he's like
1357
01:18:02.359 --> 01:18:04.560
I was a chipmunk last year, let me show you.
1358
01:18:04.600 --> 01:18:08.760
And he's the one that kind of divulges where their
1359
01:18:08.800 --> 01:18:12.479
big kind of hiding spots.
1360
01:18:11.960 --> 01:18:12.640
Of food is.
1361
01:18:13.119 --> 01:18:15.640
But it's right around this time though, that doesn't Josh
1362
01:18:15.680 --> 01:18:21.319
pull the the Seymour butts the Seymour butts joke on
1363
01:18:21.520 --> 01:18:24.760
Ben Stiller on purpose, and that's what gets him kicked out.
1364
01:18:26.159 --> 01:18:28.039
No, he doesn't get kicked out I think until after
1365
01:18:28.079 --> 01:18:29.920
the hike, right is when.
1366
01:18:30.800 --> 01:18:33.520
No, he gets kicked out, but then he comes back,
1367
01:18:34.359 --> 01:18:38.159
because it's when he comes back that he says, you know, hey, Basically,
1368
01:18:38.159 --> 01:18:40.760
my dad's lawyer got a hold of Tony and said,
1369
01:18:41.039 --> 01:18:43.199
either you give me a refund or send me back.
1370
01:18:43.600 --> 01:18:47.680
And we find out that Josh has been was just
1371
01:18:47.720 --> 01:18:49.800
pigging out while he was gone. And that's the famous
1372
01:18:49.840 --> 01:18:53.760
Lineman closed the place where he went to the sizzler
1373
01:18:53.800 --> 01:18:59.359
and closed the place. So there's you. You mentioned it.
1374
01:18:59.439 --> 01:19:06.680
Tony plans a dance with the camp Magnolia. I didn't
1375
01:19:06.720 --> 01:19:08.560
know that from the movie. It's just from reading it up.
1376
01:19:08.920 --> 01:19:11.279
Uh so dance when we kind of zoom out. What
1377
01:19:11.319 --> 01:19:14.159
we have here is a huge area where there's just
1378
01:19:14.359 --> 01:19:16.399
summer camps glore. You got the fat camp, you got
1379
01:19:16.399 --> 01:19:18.600
the sports camp, you got the girls camp. They're all
1380
01:19:18.680 --> 01:19:20.800
kind of maybe around the same lake or something or
1381
01:19:20.840 --> 01:19:25.520
same river, all nearby. He plans the dance with the
1382
01:19:25.560 --> 01:19:29.359
girls camp, thinking these kids are gonna be so embarrassed,
1383
01:19:29.359 --> 01:19:31.279
you know these girls and are not gonna want to
1384
01:19:31.319 --> 01:19:33.399
talk to them. I'm not gonna look at them. It's
1385
01:19:33.399 --> 01:19:35.720
gonna be very embarrassing. And at the beginning it is,
1386
01:19:35.800 --> 01:19:39.119
it's very like, boy, the boys are over there, the
1387
01:19:39.119 --> 01:19:43.800
girls are over there. You know, Lars is dj in.
1388
01:19:43.880 --> 01:19:46.199
He's trying to get the party started. Is Lars dj in?
1389
01:19:46.600 --> 01:19:49.640
I feel like it's Lars and then that other kid
1390
01:19:49.720 --> 01:19:52.760
that divulged where like the hiding.
1391
01:19:52.520 --> 01:19:56.479
Spot and the laky haired kid Butch from home Loan
1392
01:19:56.520 --> 01:19:57.399
for some reason.
1393
01:19:57.640 --> 01:20:01.399
And past tim are trying to this is my move
1394
01:20:01.600 --> 01:20:04.239
at like weddings or if ever I go someplace and
1395
01:20:04.239 --> 01:20:08.439
there's dancing required. Basically I dance the way Tim and
1396
01:20:08.600 --> 01:20:10.880
Pat dance. When they go out to try and get
1397
01:20:10.920 --> 01:20:15.479
everyone excited, Lars famously starts playing love machine. I'm just
1398
01:20:15.560 --> 01:20:19.319
a love machine. Bo't work, oh nobody.
1399
01:20:19.479 --> 01:20:24.279
But you heard Tim snaps. I think Phillip, says Philip,
1400
01:20:24.319 --> 01:20:27.760
one of the kind of smart fat kids, Philip and Nicholas,
1401
01:20:27.800 --> 01:20:31.520
you know, the proper fatties. Uh something like I think
1402
01:20:31.560 --> 01:20:34.359
he blew a major milt or he's just like blew
1403
01:20:34.399 --> 01:20:37.319
a major circuit or something. Tim goes out there. Pat's like,
1404
01:20:37.439 --> 01:20:39.199
oh god, I can't let him be out there dying
1405
01:20:39.199 --> 01:20:41.880
on the dance floor alone. That goes out there doing
1406
01:20:41.920 --> 01:20:45.159
you know, his moves. Then Nurse Julie's like, you know what,
1407
01:20:45.479 --> 01:20:47.880
maybe this will get the girls out there. Next thing,
1408
01:20:47.920 --> 01:20:50.000
you know, uh, you know, they get all the kids
1409
01:20:50.000 --> 01:20:51.920
out there, All the campers are out there, the boys
1410
01:20:51.960 --> 01:20:55.039
and girls are mingling and dancing. Everything's fun, everything's great.
1411
01:20:55.479 --> 01:20:58.960
Lars is just going ape shit at the DJ dance.
1412
01:20:59.399 --> 01:21:01.520
It's a real party. And then what does Tony do.
1413
01:21:02.760 --> 01:21:06.000
Uncle Tony do shuts the whole thing down.
1414
01:21:07.520 --> 01:21:09.680
That's the whole thing down. And I think maybe he
1415
01:21:09.720 --> 01:21:11.840
says they need to get to bed, they need to
1416
01:21:11.840 --> 01:21:13.640
get some restpers a hike the next day.
1417
01:21:13.760 --> 01:21:17.079
Maybe I don't know if that's yet. I think he
1418
01:21:17.279 --> 01:21:19.520
definitely like throws cold water on the whole thing because
1419
01:21:19.520 --> 01:21:23.520
his plan is falling apart. So he's shipping the girls off,
1420
01:21:23.560 --> 01:21:27.159
telling the boys all right, it's over with And then something,
1421
01:21:27.199 --> 01:21:30.119
for some stupid reason that's always stuck with me is
1422
01:21:30.159 --> 01:21:33.560
he tells everyone, let's get all this cleaned up. The
1423
01:21:33.600 --> 01:21:36.319
bugs are coming out, so the bugs will be out tonight.
1424
01:21:37.800 --> 01:21:40.359
And this is when we see mac Daddy Salami Sam.
1425
01:21:40.399 --> 01:21:42.520
You know, he's been dancing with the hottest girl there
1426
01:21:42.680 --> 01:21:45.359
camp and it's a nice big kiss from her before.
1427
01:21:45.920 --> 01:21:49.680
Making out before they leave. So uh, a good a
1428
01:21:49.720 --> 01:21:53.600
good boost to the morale of the boys that they
1429
01:21:53.640 --> 01:21:56.960
could kind of overcome this challenge, you know, with the
1430
01:21:56.960 --> 01:22:01.039
help of Pat and Tim and Nurse Julie. So it's
1431
01:22:01.159 --> 01:22:04.359
right after this, Wikipedia is telling me that Josh returns.
1432
01:22:04.880 --> 01:22:08.000
So he was he got he got the boot for
1433
01:22:08.199 --> 01:22:11.399
the Seymour Butts joke that he got Tony Purkis to
1434
01:22:11.479 --> 01:22:16.239
fall for. But Josh famously comes back pretending like his
1435
01:22:16.479 --> 01:22:25.720
like he's had a lobotomy or he's like Josh Josh,
1436
01:22:26.079 --> 01:22:28.439
So he comes back. They're like, what happened? Or no?
1437
01:22:28.560 --> 01:22:31.039
He says, good to see you. He makes some joke
1438
01:22:31.079 --> 01:22:32.880
where you can tell they cut out a swear word
1439
01:22:33.079 --> 01:22:38.600
and like they like dub his voice. Yeah, Josh comes back,
1440
01:22:38.720 --> 01:22:41.399
says basically, his father's lawyer threatened to sue Tony for
1441
01:22:41.479 --> 01:22:44.840
kicking him out, so he's back. So at this point,
1442
01:22:44.880 --> 01:22:47.119
now they're all the kids are all starting to try
1443
01:22:47.159 --> 01:22:50.359
to formulate plans on what to deal with Tony. And
1444
01:22:50.359 --> 01:22:54.079
it's at this point they Jerry and a bunch of
1445
01:22:54.119 --> 01:22:58.560
them devise a plan to sneak into Tony's office to
1446
01:22:58.640 --> 01:23:02.279
both find their confiscated snacks and to try and find
1447
01:23:02.279 --> 01:23:05.479
any evidence that Tony is like abusing them or what
1448
01:23:05.520 --> 01:23:09.760
Tony purkis is doing is wrong. And so as they're
1449
01:23:09.760 --> 01:23:14.760
breaking in to Tony's office, they do it while Tony
1450
01:23:14.880 --> 01:23:17.640
is out on a run, which led to, you know,
1451
01:23:18.039 --> 01:23:22.359
one of my favorite moments. Tony's jogging. First of all,
1452
01:23:22.399 --> 01:23:27.079
he jogs past Pat and he goes you dog. He
1453
01:23:27.119 --> 01:23:30.560
goes you dogging it? Pat, you're dogging it. I'm dogging it, Pat,
1454
01:23:30.840 --> 01:23:33.760
I'm dogging it. And then he runs he runs past
1455
01:23:33.760 --> 01:23:36.840
a big log, runs past the log. Then comes back,
1456
01:23:36.920 --> 01:23:39.479
picks the log up over his head and goes, come here,
1457
01:23:39.600 --> 01:23:44.239
you devil alog and then starts running with the log
1458
01:23:44.279 --> 01:23:47.960
over his head. But so all the boys break into
1459
01:23:48.000 --> 01:23:51.399
Tony's office. They find that all of their letters that
1460
01:23:51.439 --> 01:23:54.960
they've been writing to their families have not been sent.
1461
01:23:55.479 --> 01:23:59.399
They're all just sitting there in Tony's office. They do
1462
01:23:59.520 --> 01:24:06.279
discover the food stash and oh the way, so they
1463
01:24:06.720 --> 01:24:08.319
I can't remember what else they find in the office.
1464
01:24:08.319 --> 01:24:10.800
But as they're trying to so Tony comes back as
1465
01:24:10.800 --> 01:24:13.159
they're trying to get out of the office. It led
1466
01:24:13.199 --> 01:24:16.720
to my children's favorite part in the movie, and that's
1467
01:24:16.760 --> 01:24:19.560
when they're trying to squeeze Nicholas through the window and
1468
01:24:19.640 --> 01:24:22.760
Nicholas rips a huge fart right in the face of
1469
01:24:22.880 --> 01:24:27.319
Jerry and a couple of the windows. Never forget how
1470
01:24:27.520 --> 01:24:31.119
how a good fart jog will land with kids in
1471
01:24:31.199 --> 01:24:37.000
a kids movie. But so they get out, they escape Tony.
1472
01:24:37.439 --> 01:24:40.560
They're all breathing heavy from almost getting caught there by
1473
01:24:40.800 --> 01:24:43.479
the porta potties or by the bathrooms. And what do
1474
01:24:43.560 --> 01:24:45.359
they hear, tim.
1475
01:24:45.119 --> 01:24:47.760
They can hear a food rapper crinkling, you know, like
1476
01:24:47.800 --> 01:24:50.680
the McDonald's burger wrapper crinkling.
1477
01:24:52.000 --> 01:24:54.000
And so who do they stumble on? Who is it
1478
01:24:54.039 --> 01:25:00.279
that's hiding in the bathrooms? Filla, he's got Candi, Where
1479
01:25:00.319 --> 01:25:02.800
did you get that? And they shake him down and
1480
01:25:02.840 --> 01:25:05.840
we we get a wonderful montage to the song I
1481
01:25:05.920 --> 01:25:09.800
Want Candy, where we find out that the one kid
1482
01:25:09.800 --> 01:25:13.319
that originally betrayed them, who's on Tony's team, has been
1483
01:25:13.399 --> 01:25:17.840
smuggling food to a tree stump, and we see the
1484
01:25:17.920 --> 01:25:20.319
kids going back and forth and get there.
1485
01:25:21.279 --> 01:25:23.920
Yes, he betrayed them because he had a little side business.
1486
01:25:24.000 --> 01:25:27.279
He wanted to get going where he knew that they
1487
01:25:27.279 --> 01:25:29.159
were going to smuggle food in, so he figured, well,
1488
01:25:29.520 --> 01:25:31.680
if I rat them out for that, then I can
1489
01:25:31.760 --> 01:25:33.520
kind of corner the market. And he's probably you know,
1490
01:25:33.600 --> 01:25:36.560
bringing them a McDonald's cheeseburger, which at the time I think,
1491
01:25:36.600 --> 01:25:40.399
you know, they had like that for fifty nine cent cheeseburger,
1492
01:25:40.920 --> 01:25:43.720
a hamburger and cheeseburger deal. So he's probably charging them
1493
01:25:44.079 --> 01:25:46.000
an arm and a leg to get that food smuggled
1494
01:25:46.000 --> 01:25:49.319
in there. It's a good good move on his his uh,
1495
01:25:49.800 --> 01:25:50.880
on his behalf, you.
1496
01:25:50.800 --> 01:25:54.159
Know, yep. So, and I think we we screwed up
1497
01:25:54.159 --> 01:25:55.840
a little bit because I think it's at this point,
1498
01:25:55.920 --> 01:25:58.640
after they eat all these snacks, that's when there's the
1499
01:25:58.680 --> 01:26:02.920
way in that Tony loses his mind because now even
1500
01:26:02.960 --> 01:26:05.439
though Tony had already gotten rid of all the snacks,
1501
01:26:05.800 --> 01:26:10.560
they're still gaining weight. And that's when Tony announces anyone
1502
01:26:10.600 --> 01:26:14.399
that didn't make their their weight goal is going to
1503
01:26:14.399 --> 01:26:16.439
go with Tony on a twenty mile hike.
1504
01:26:16.840 --> 01:26:20.279
Yeah, middle of summer.
1505
01:26:21.840 --> 01:26:25.800
Tim, I on a good day will take a two
1506
01:26:25.920 --> 01:26:30.399
mile walk, So it's safe to say that this twenty
1507
01:26:30.399 --> 01:26:33.720
mile hike would kill you or I maybe not. You're
1508
01:26:33.840 --> 01:26:36.159
you're in better shape than I am. But so Tony
1509
01:26:36.199 --> 01:26:39.600
forces the boys on a twenty mile hike, it would
1510
01:26:39.600 --> 01:26:44.439
have At this point, you know, counselors like Tim and
1511
01:26:44.520 --> 01:26:47.279
Pat and Nurse Julie they're left behind and they're like,
1512
01:26:48.039 --> 01:26:49.720
we got to bring an end to this, like this
1513
01:26:49.840 --> 01:26:52.319
is crazy, Like this isn't safe, you know for these boys.
1514
01:26:52.359 --> 01:26:55.359
We got to figure something out. That's when the cameraman
1515
01:26:55.479 --> 01:26:58.840
goes walking by in some of the best acting that
1516
01:26:58.880 --> 01:27:01.720
I've ever seen out of this actor. Have you seen
1517
01:27:01.800 --> 01:27:04.920
Tony that man, oh's me one hundred bucks?
1518
01:27:05.039 --> 01:27:07.159
Or he just says something right.
1519
01:27:07.279 --> 01:27:11.840
Stupid and they realized that the cameraman has all kinds
1520
01:27:11.880 --> 01:27:16.600
of footage of Tony. You know what Tony's been doing
1521
01:27:16.680 --> 01:27:19.600
to the kids. Yep, So they start doing that to
1522
01:27:19.640 --> 01:27:22.119
try and get Tony out from their end. But once
1523
01:27:22.159 --> 01:27:24.720
you know it that our characters are our main characters,
1524
01:27:24.720 --> 01:27:29.239
these guys have another plan. And now I can't remember
1525
01:27:29.279 --> 01:27:31.880
if they had this plan going into the twenty mile hike,
1526
01:27:32.720 --> 01:27:38.239
but basically halfway through the hike, Tony announces to the kids,
1527
01:27:38.920 --> 01:27:41.439
do you see that mountain over there? We're going to
1528
01:27:41.520 --> 01:27:45.399
go like scale that mountain, and basically Tony's starting to
1529
01:27:45.439 --> 01:27:48.239
lose it. Tony Perks is starting to lose it. He
1530
01:27:48.319 --> 01:27:51.479
runs and jumps out on this huge branch that's hanging
1531
01:27:51.560 --> 01:27:56.920
over kind of this mountaintop, this precipice, and in my
1532
01:27:57.039 --> 01:28:00.880
favorite part of the movie, he's hanging from the limb
1533
01:28:01.359 --> 01:28:04.840
and he says, why don't you come join me? Sam,
1534
01:28:05.720 --> 01:28:07.960
and it cuts to Salami Sam in one of the
1535
01:28:07.960 --> 01:28:11.560
best line readings ever, and Salami Sam goes, oh yeah, mom,
1536
01:28:11.560 --> 01:28:14.920
my way and then makes a face like there's no way.
1537
01:28:14.960 --> 01:28:18.079
He's on his way. I have recorded this scene on
1538
01:28:18.119 --> 01:28:21.000
my phone. I can't tell you how many times. If
1539
01:28:21.039 --> 01:28:23.960
my partner is like, Hey, can you come up here
1540
01:28:24.159 --> 01:28:26.720
and help me with this laundry. Hey, these kids aren't listening. Hey,
1541
01:28:26.800 --> 01:28:28.920
I need your help. And I will just send her
1542
01:28:29.000 --> 01:28:32.279
the video of Salami Sam going oh yeah, mo, my way,
1543
01:28:33.600 --> 01:28:36.840
and then I'll never go there. Salami Sam also famously
1544
01:28:36.880 --> 01:28:40.159
early on in the movie, announces his nickname and says,
1545
01:28:41.119 --> 01:28:43.680
who's ready for the Salami Slam and then does a
1546
01:28:43.680 --> 01:28:47.000
belly flop into the water. We missed that part.
1547
01:28:47.439 --> 01:28:49.640
Yeah, we didn't even touch about the whole the watered
1548
01:28:49.680 --> 01:28:54.239
thing with the buddy system and how Josh.
1549
01:28:53.800 --> 01:28:54.840
Tell us about that, tim.
1550
01:28:54.920 --> 01:28:57.880
Yeah, it's a very quick scene. So they're all swimming
1551
01:28:58.399 --> 01:29:01.960
and uh, you know, large, we're gonna we're gonna do
1552
01:29:01.960 --> 01:29:05.039
the nurse Julie because Lars doesn't paying attention to the kids,
1553
01:29:05.039 --> 01:29:07.920
and he tells Nurse Julie, Oh, don't worry, I have
1554
01:29:07.960 --> 01:29:10.880
the buddy system. But it sounds like body the body system,
1555
01:29:11.359 --> 01:29:15.000
the body system, and then he blows his whistle. Buddy
1556
01:29:15.159 --> 01:29:16.640
and the kids, you know, they all go to their
1557
01:29:16.640 --> 01:29:19.039
buddy to make sure everyone say okay, except of course,
1558
01:29:19.159 --> 01:29:21.760
my boy Josh, sitting on the dock in his shade,
1559
01:29:22.079 --> 01:29:23.079
just raises his one hand.
1560
01:29:23.079 --> 01:29:27.039
I always love it, buddy, just almost hand up.
1561
01:29:27.479 --> 01:29:29.560
Even Lars kind of had to give Josh a little
1562
01:29:29.560 --> 01:29:32.159
bit of you know, respect, like, well, he's just gonna
1563
01:29:32.159 --> 01:29:34.520
be sitting on the dock sunbathing, you know, we'll let
1564
01:29:34.600 --> 01:29:36.439
him get away with things. He's a little bit, you know,
1565
01:29:36.760 --> 01:29:38.399
cooler than everybody else.
1566
01:29:39.239 --> 01:29:41.560
And it's Josh that gets him. So they're up there,
1567
01:29:41.800 --> 01:29:44.119
they decide they have to do something about this hike.
1568
01:29:44.680 --> 01:29:47.399
And I can't remember exactly how they trick him into it. Oh,
1569
01:29:47.880 --> 01:29:52.680
they tell Tony there. The kids all start arguing and
1570
01:29:52.720 --> 01:29:54.720
one of them says, you know, Josh says, you can't
1571
01:29:54.720 --> 01:30:00.479
do a sit up with your eyes closed, right. Ben
1572
01:30:00.560 --> 01:30:05.479
still is like, oh, there's many He says something about
1573
01:30:05.520 --> 01:30:09.159
there's many myths to the abdominal, about the abdominal system,
1574
01:30:09.319 --> 01:30:11.319
and he's happy to put this one to rest.
1575
01:30:12.720 --> 01:30:16.560
Ben Stiller's line deliveries in this movie are just pard
1576
01:30:17.560 --> 01:30:18.159
so good.
1577
01:30:19.680 --> 01:30:22.840
So Ben Stiller gets on gets on the ground to
1578
01:30:22.920 --> 01:30:25.960
do a sit up with his eyes closed, and while
1579
01:30:26.000 --> 01:30:29.800
they're doing that, Josh stands over him, pulls his pants down,
1580
01:30:30.159 --> 01:30:33.800
puts his ass right in Tony Purkis's face. So when
1581
01:30:33.800 --> 01:30:37.000
Tony sits up right away. He's looking what is the
1582
01:30:37.039 --> 01:30:40.920
line that Josh says, I tried looking this up before before.
1583
01:30:42.159 --> 01:30:44.319
Oh you like the view, Tony or something like that.
1584
01:30:44.680 --> 01:30:49.039
I think Bencher says, Oh my god, and he doesn't.
1585
01:30:52.279 --> 01:30:57.479
He like karate chops him. He karate chops him, like
1586
01:30:57.560 --> 01:31:02.720
right below his ass cheeks. Josh falls over. Kudos to
1587
01:31:02.800 --> 01:31:04.880
Josh for pulling his pants up in the process of
1588
01:31:04.920 --> 01:31:09.560
falling over, but yeah, Tony like karate chops him. Josh
1589
01:31:09.600 --> 01:31:14.079
takes off running. What we realize is that the kids
1590
01:31:14.079 --> 01:31:17.640
had set up this trap, so Tony's chasing after Josh.
1591
01:31:17.720 --> 01:31:21.359
It ends up falling down into this into this pit.
1592
01:31:23.359 --> 01:31:29.720
So they locked Tony up. So Tim Patt and Julie,
1593
01:31:29.760 --> 01:31:32.439
you know, they're doing their own things. Suddenly Gerald shows
1594
01:31:32.479 --> 01:31:34.640
back up at camp like breathing hard, and they're like,
1595
01:31:34.640 --> 01:31:37.640
oh my god, what happened? Like come on, we have
1596
01:31:37.720 --> 01:31:40.439
to show you now. Tim. I don't know about you
1597
01:31:40.479 --> 01:31:43.520
and your kids, but if my kids and I ever
1598
01:31:43.600 --> 01:31:47.520
have to set up a password, we've established the one
1599
01:31:47.520 --> 01:31:51.239
and only password that we use, and it's from this movie.
1600
01:31:51.279 --> 01:31:53.119
The kids have set up a password to come in
1601
01:31:53.920 --> 01:31:55.840
to see where they're hiding. Tony, do you remember the
1602
01:31:55.840 --> 01:32:02.239
password Yankee doodles. That's correct. So they've got Tony hooked
1603
01:32:02.319 --> 01:32:10.000
up to a bug zapper. Yeah, in this cell. This
1604
01:32:10.079 --> 01:32:11.840
is where it kind of it's like, oh God, like,
1605
01:32:11.840 --> 01:32:13.840
are they gonna like kill Tony? At this point, if
1606
01:32:13.840 --> 01:32:15.680
you're first watching it, you're like, oh man, this might
1607
01:32:15.760 --> 01:32:19.199
like get really crazy. But so they got Tony locked
1608
01:32:19.279 --> 01:32:23.359
up and the campers kind of take back control of
1609
01:32:23.479 --> 01:32:27.399
camp hope. Do you speaking of honey, do you remember
1610
01:32:27.399 --> 01:32:28.920
what they do to Lars?
1611
01:32:29.359 --> 01:32:31.680
Oh? Yeah, they duct tape him to a tree and
1612
01:32:31.720 --> 01:32:34.319
spread honey on his chest and they, you know, they
1613
01:32:34.359 --> 01:32:37.560
let him know like the bears love the honey or whatever.
1614
01:32:37.800 --> 01:32:40.920
So he's, you know, haird shitless. And then they're gonna
1615
01:32:40.920 --> 01:32:46.600
go have just the biggest, grandest ketonistic feast you've ever
1616
01:32:46.640 --> 01:32:47.520
seen on camera.
1617
01:32:48.119 --> 01:32:50.439
They binge, they binge. I always I get a kick
1618
01:32:50.479 --> 01:32:55.199
out of when they rip Lars's shirt and he goes, oh,
1619
01:32:55.279 --> 01:32:59.279
he kind of gives us. When they rip his shirt
1620
01:32:59.279 --> 01:33:02.359
and put honey out, he says, some figure, I love you.
1621
01:33:02.520 --> 01:33:04.399
They're like, are you with us? Because eventually they on
1622
01:33:04.560 --> 01:33:06.600
ty Lars and he joins in right.
1623
01:33:09.159 --> 01:33:11.119
The hedonism, I love you.
1624
01:33:11.359 --> 01:33:13.359
So they have a big Binge. They have this like
1625
01:33:13.439 --> 01:33:20.520
big big binge eating bonfire. Oh they boy, doesn't this
1626
01:33:20.600 --> 01:33:24.159
sound like The way they get Lars to go along
1627
01:33:24.199 --> 01:33:27.399
with them was very ahead of ahead of its time.
1628
01:33:27.560 --> 01:33:31.720
They threaten Lars with deportation. I forgot about that. That's
1629
01:33:31.720 --> 01:33:36.159
how we've learned all kinds of lessons from this movie.
1630
01:33:36.479 --> 01:33:38.479
It's all right, So they have a big party. The
1631
01:33:38.520 --> 01:33:42.000
next morning. Pat gets everyone up and kind of gives
1632
01:33:42.000 --> 01:33:44.359
some very soft, you know, shaming and kind of a
1633
01:33:44.439 --> 01:33:47.439
motivational speech, you know, saying, you know, you gotta start
1634
01:33:47.760 --> 01:33:52.560
taking responsibility for yourself, start doing healthy, safer things to
1635
01:33:52.840 --> 01:33:56.479
lose weight, start a healthier regimen, try to make Camps.
1636
01:33:56.640 --> 01:33:59.239
Who resembles a human s'more at this moment?
1637
01:34:00.439 --> 01:34:00.560
Uh?
1638
01:34:01.479 --> 01:34:03.640
I think you know? He asked what did you learn?
1639
01:34:03.680 --> 01:34:06.680
And Roy Boyce says, never put twinkies on your pizza.
1640
01:34:07.359 --> 01:34:11.640
I remember that line specifically basically saying like, all right, guys, like,
1641
01:34:11.720 --> 01:34:14.119
is this is this really what camp? Hope? You know
1642
01:34:14.159 --> 01:34:15.960
we got it from Tony, but is this what we
1643
01:34:16.039 --> 01:34:18.399
really want to be resembling?
1644
01:34:18.439 --> 01:34:18.600
Here?
1645
01:34:18.640 --> 01:34:22.560
It's just that the trough covered in all sorts of
1646
01:34:22.560 --> 01:34:26.239
food stuff, and everyone kind of like, yeah, maybe maybe
1647
01:34:26.279 --> 01:34:27.079
he's excellent.
1648
01:34:27.439 --> 01:34:34.560
Yeah, excellent slow motion to the benchine. So okay. So
1649
01:34:35.359 --> 01:34:39.000
they there's like another montage of them all starting to
1650
01:34:39.039 --> 01:34:41.479
do like healthier things again. I guess we're assuming that
1651
01:34:41.520 --> 01:34:44.880
Tony is locked up in this cage this entire time
1652
01:34:45.800 --> 01:34:48.520
while this is going on, but so.
1653
01:34:49.800 --> 01:34:51.600
Well, it shows him locked up. He's like, let me
1654
01:34:51.680 --> 01:34:52.119
out of here.
1655
01:34:57.119 --> 01:34:59.239
But so two things kind of happen at the same time.
1656
01:34:59.279 --> 01:35:02.000
Then they have the parents. The parents are eventually invited
1657
01:35:02.039 --> 01:35:07.359
to the to the camp to check in.
1658
01:35:07.479 --> 01:35:11.479
The mid season Midsummer Parents Day visit or something like that.
1659
01:35:12.119 --> 01:35:13.760
Do you remember how Tony escapes?
1660
01:35:15.079 --> 01:35:19.000
Yeah, he takes a little Hershey's kiss rapper that's empty
1661
01:35:19.560 --> 01:35:21.760
and kind of fashions it to look like there is one,
1662
01:35:21.840 --> 01:35:25.039
and he pulls Nicholas into kind of coming over to
1663
01:35:25.079 --> 01:35:28.800
take it from him. And I can't remember exactly how
1664
01:35:28.840 --> 01:35:31.600
he gets out, like what he does? Does he do
1665
01:35:31.720 --> 01:35:34.039
something to kill the electricity to the bugs effort? Like
1666
01:35:34.079 --> 01:35:35.560
he sticks Oh, you're.
1667
01:35:35.399 --> 01:35:38.399
Right, he sticks something in to kill the electricity, drops
1668
01:35:38.399 --> 01:35:40.439
a fake hershey Kiss in front of Nicholas and then
1669
01:35:40.560 --> 01:35:45.800
like reaches out and grabs him. So as the parents
1670
01:35:45.840 --> 01:35:49.319
are there, I'm just gonna read this exactly from Wikipedia.
1671
01:35:49.439 --> 01:35:52.079
The boy's parents arrived for visiting day and are shown
1672
01:35:52.119 --> 01:35:56.600
a video documenting Tony's cruelty, which is interrupted by Tony
1673
01:35:56.800 --> 01:36:03.079
having escaped his cell, exchanging blow with Jerry's father, Jeffrey Tamboor.
1674
01:36:03.920 --> 01:36:08.600
He attempts a series of backflips but knocks himself out.
1675
01:36:09.119 --> 01:36:12.359
That's how we that's how they best Tony. He attempts
1676
01:36:12.359 --> 01:36:16.000
a bunch of backflips, knocks himself out. As Tony is
1677
01:36:16.039 --> 01:36:19.119
taken away, we do meet Tony Purkiss Sr. Who is
1678
01:36:19.399 --> 01:36:21.279
very obviously just being played by Ben.
1679
01:36:21.159 --> 01:36:24.600
Stiller Ben Schiller which would later become you know and
1680
01:36:24.640 --> 01:36:27.359
start saying hutch when he goes undercover as the dude. Yep,
1681
01:36:28.000 --> 01:36:30.800
that's suing voice that same character. But I did want
1682
01:36:30.800 --> 01:36:33.520
to touch on so when they're showing like this video
1683
01:36:33.920 --> 01:36:37.520
of Tony's abuse, and you know, they clearly doctored a
1684
01:36:37.520 --> 01:36:39.439
little bit, they're like finding a rat and acting like
1685
01:36:39.439 --> 01:36:43.880
they're eating a rat and stuff like that, and I think, uh,
1686
01:36:44.279 --> 01:36:47.119
maybe that is that when we hear the lunch's hand
1687
01:36:47.119 --> 01:36:49.920
sold due to like maybe not. But anyway, when he
1688
01:36:50.079 --> 01:36:52.000
escapes and he sees the video, he's doing like a
1689
01:36:52.039 --> 01:36:55.800
slow clap, Wow, bravo. But I feel the little the
1690
01:36:55.920 --> 01:36:58.079
villain may have been, you know, something like taken out
1691
01:36:58.079 --> 01:36:59.239
of context.
1692
01:36:59.000 --> 01:37:01.640
A little over the a little over the top.
1693
01:37:02.079 --> 01:37:04.479
As he starts walking to the kids, he keeps grabbing
1694
01:37:04.520 --> 01:37:07.600
glasses from the table and shattering and walking across the glass,
1695
01:37:07.800 --> 01:37:10.239
and he's like and as he's walking across the glass,
1696
01:37:10.239 --> 01:37:16.720
he's like, I like screaming it. And then finally when
1697
01:37:16.760 --> 01:37:18.920
he gets to Jerry's dead, Jerry's dad punches him in
1698
01:37:18.960 --> 01:37:21.920
the gut and I think he might like hit him
1699
01:37:21.960 --> 01:37:22.640
back and then.
1700
01:37:22.840 --> 01:37:24.720
But then he pops back up and does the same
1701
01:37:24.800 --> 01:37:28.199
like karate chop to the back of its neck.
1702
01:37:29.159 --> 01:37:31.840
Does the does the double judo chop before doing his
1703
01:37:31.920 --> 01:37:34.359
backflips and hitting his head on the stage, and I
1704
01:37:34.359 --> 01:37:37.359
guess he guess that was like, you know, the final blow.
1705
01:37:39.359 --> 01:37:43.399
So so all right, So right before Tony Perks leaves,
1706
01:37:43.239 --> 01:37:46.239
he promises to refund everyone's money, but he's gotta close
1707
01:37:46.279 --> 01:37:48.800
the camp. The boys want the camp to stay open.
1708
01:37:49.039 --> 01:37:51.880
He's like, so seeing Percose, He's like, well, I gotta
1709
01:37:51.960 --> 01:37:54.399
leave it, and uh gotta leave an adult in charge
1710
01:37:54.439 --> 01:37:57.399
who's been here the longest. And that's when the pat
1711
01:37:57.479 --> 01:37:59.520
the council raises his hand and says he's been there
1712
01:37:59.520 --> 01:38:03.199
for eight years, and so they kind of turn it
1713
01:38:03.239 --> 01:38:07.319
over to Pat. He agrees to, you know, at least
1714
01:38:07.319 --> 01:38:10.239
for right now, take over Camp Hope. And so here's
1715
01:38:10.239 --> 01:38:16.079
where we get to the final final chunk of the
1716
01:38:16.079 --> 01:38:19.079
the movie where we find out that every year Camp
1717
01:38:19.119 --> 01:38:23.720
Hope will go against Camp MVP in these like MVP Games,
1718
01:38:23.760 --> 01:38:26.039
an annual competition. I can't remember if there's a name
1719
01:38:26.079 --> 01:38:26.880
for the games.
1720
01:38:27.279 --> 01:38:29.439
There is, I can't remember what it is either, but
1721
01:38:29.560 --> 01:38:30.039
I do know this.
1722
01:38:30.199 --> 01:38:34.039
Get a really fun sequence and and I guess if
1723
01:38:34.079 --> 01:38:37.720
there's any it's it's almost like a triathlon or there's
1724
01:38:37.840 --> 01:38:43.840
multiple different legs of this competition between Camp Hope and
1725
01:38:44.000 --> 01:38:50.279
the and Camp MVP. Do you remember them? Activity by activity.
1726
01:38:50.319 --> 01:38:54.199
There's one that's like a test of knowledge where where
1727
01:38:54.199 --> 01:38:59.239
we have Grandma's boy himself dressed up like Einstein.
1728
01:39:00.479 --> 01:39:01.800
Is. He's smoking a cigarette too.
1729
01:39:04.800 --> 01:39:08.479
There is like what's the It obviously ends with the
1730
01:39:08.520 --> 01:39:11.079
big go kart race, but I feel like I want
1731
01:39:11.159 --> 01:39:11.560
to touch that.
1732
01:39:11.920 --> 01:39:13.800
You have to shave the shape who can shave the
1733
01:39:13.840 --> 01:39:16.119
bloon better? And we learned earlier that Josh has been
1734
01:39:16.119 --> 01:39:19.079
shaving for years. So you like here like whistling and
1735
01:39:19.119 --> 01:39:22.319
doing it, like flicking the shaving cream off the razor.
1736
01:39:24.439 --> 01:39:28.239
Right, there's like an obstacle course and then a test
1737
01:39:28.279 --> 01:39:31.279
of okay, So here it is m VP takes the
1738
01:39:31.359 --> 01:39:34.039
lead in the first event, which is an obstacle course,
1739
01:39:34.560 --> 01:39:36.640
camp Hope catches up in the second round, which is
1740
01:39:36.640 --> 01:39:41.319
a test of knowledge. Right, and god, what were some
1741
01:39:41.399 --> 01:39:45.359
of the the stupid things in the test of knowledge?
1742
01:39:45.680 --> 01:39:50.399
Because yeah, like Nicholas just knocks all of those out
1743
01:39:50.399 --> 01:39:52.319
of the park. I can't remember.
1744
01:39:52.079 --> 01:39:54.920
Remember the case. Julie keep saying the same thing, like
1745
01:39:54.960 --> 01:39:57.119
his answer is just the same thing over and over again.
1746
01:39:58.840 --> 01:40:02.239
Skate is screaming it right now. But kudos to Nurse
1747
01:40:02.359 --> 01:40:06.600
Julie dressing up like the statue of liberty. That looks
1748
01:40:06.640 --> 01:40:10.159
like freedom. It looks like freedom to me. And then
1749
01:40:10.199 --> 01:40:15.640
it finally ends in the go kart race where Gardner
1750
01:40:15.720 --> 01:40:20.000
Jerald finally gets his chance to driving the go karts.
1751
01:40:20.439 --> 01:40:24.920
They put the Captain's wings back on his jacket that
1752
01:40:25.000 --> 01:40:27.760
he got from flying on the plane at the beginning
1753
01:40:27.840 --> 01:40:30.560
of the movie. This was pretty exciting. I love a
1754
01:40:30.560 --> 01:40:34.760
good go kart. There's a great go kart scene in
1755
01:40:34.840 --> 01:40:41.119
Little Giants when Rick Rick moranis is in the go
1756
01:40:41.319 --> 01:40:44.119
kart and he's doing a race with you know, his
1757
01:40:44.159 --> 01:40:48.279
brother Ed O'Neil, who's in like a nice corvette love
1758
01:40:48.319 --> 01:40:49.439
a good go kart race.
1759
01:40:49.800 --> 01:40:52.079
There's also really quick the go kart scene where like
1760
01:40:52.600 --> 01:40:54.640
Red Tad and some of the other kids are being
1761
01:40:54.640 --> 01:40:58.079
picked on by the kids from the Cowboys, and then
1762
01:40:58.079 --> 01:41:00.239
who comes to the rescue ice Box on her go
1763
01:41:00.319 --> 01:41:01.880
cart and chases their asses down?
1764
01:41:01.960 --> 01:41:05.359
Oh, chases them on their bikes yep, yep, knocks them
1765
01:41:05.359 --> 01:41:08.560
all into like water on their bikes. All right, I'm
1766
01:41:08.560 --> 01:41:10.640
starting to lose steam here, but we're almost done. There's
1767
01:41:10.680 --> 01:41:17.159
a great, uh you know, climactic scene where Gerald is
1768
01:41:18.000 --> 01:41:21.399
Jerry's running behind in the go kart, but right at
1769
01:41:21.399 --> 01:41:25.279
the very end he hits this ramp, goes flying up
1770
01:41:25.359 --> 01:41:28.279
into the air over top of the Camp MVP go
1771
01:41:28.479 --> 01:41:31.479
kart just in the nick of time to cross the
1772
01:41:32.000 --> 01:41:36.199
finish line, and he, you know, he's exuberant. He yells,
1773
01:41:36.279 --> 01:41:40.439
I was flying, Pat, I was flying. Big cheer, big goose,
1774
01:41:40.640 --> 01:41:46.199
goose bumps. Moments you know, Camp Hope has won. Whoever
1775
01:41:46.239 --> 01:41:48.239
that dink is that they had playing the council from
1776
01:41:48.279 --> 01:41:51.000
camp MVP comes up and he says, we're gonna we're
1777
01:41:51.000 --> 01:41:55.600
gonna challenge this or we're gonna dispute this. That's our trophy.
1778
01:41:55.640 --> 01:41:57.680
And then don't they have sims? What do they have
1779
01:41:57.760 --> 01:41:58.560
sims do with.
1780
01:41:58.479 --> 01:42:04.840
The trophy into the lake? I think chasing after it
1781
01:42:04.960 --> 01:42:05.359
or something.
1782
01:42:05.520 --> 01:42:09.239
Yeah, because the trophy is that that's other foreshadowing. They
1783
01:42:09.319 --> 01:42:13.079
just wanted a trophy. They just wanted a participation trophy.
1784
01:42:13.199 --> 01:42:17.199
They just wanted someone to give them an award. Really okay,
1785
01:42:17.720 --> 01:42:21.000
And we get an end credit scene where Pat, the
1786
01:42:21.079 --> 01:42:28.880
campers and Lars sing the Camp Hope theme song. Anything else? Tim?
1787
01:42:28.920 --> 01:42:32.720
I am also learning right now from Wikipedia that there's
1788
01:42:32.760 --> 01:42:34.720
a post credit scene. Did you know this?
1789
01:42:35.199 --> 01:42:35.920
Oh my god?
1790
01:42:36.119 --> 01:42:39.960
No, In a post credit scene, Tony is now an
1791
01:42:40.039 --> 01:42:46.520
unsuccessful door to door salesman selling healing crystals. Oh. I
1792
01:42:46.560 --> 01:42:48.159
don't know if I've seen that.
1793
01:42:48.239 --> 01:42:49.439
I've never seen that either.
1794
01:42:50.079 --> 01:42:54.640
Now I gotta fire it up and uh and watch that.
1795
01:42:55.119 --> 01:42:58.479
So all right, Tim, I'm out of breath. Anything that
1796
01:42:58.520 --> 01:43:01.000
we missed, I don't know. Did you make any other notes,
1797
01:43:01.039 --> 01:43:04.479
any big quotes? My name is Lars? Oh what did?
1798
01:43:05.479 --> 01:43:07.800
There's only the one thing we missed when they're getting
1799
01:43:07.840 --> 01:43:10.560
pictures of them all. After Tony and Lars come in,
1800
01:43:11.199 --> 01:43:13.560
Josh is like picking his nose and making faces, and
1801
01:43:13.600 --> 01:43:16.880
then finally he sticks the uh sticks his name tag
1802
01:43:17.119 --> 01:43:19.960
over his ass for the picture, and you hear the
1803
01:43:20.039 --> 01:43:26.159
camera you've broken my camera. One thing we missed and
1804
01:43:26.199 --> 01:43:29.399
then he broke it by camera Tony. The other thing
1805
01:43:29.439 --> 01:43:31.159
is Tony says something that he's gonna make them all
1806
01:43:31.199 --> 01:43:33.960
into skinny winners and they start, you know, run with
1807
01:43:34.000 --> 01:43:39.760
the skinny Wieners. I think we hit all of the
1808
01:43:39.800 --> 01:43:42.800
points I can really remember, though. I mean that there's
1809
01:43:42.840 --> 01:43:44.479
a lot of high points in this movie, a lot
1810
01:43:44.520 --> 01:43:46.880
of good funny move moments. So okay, I think.
1811
01:43:46.720 --> 01:43:49.399
I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do one
1812
01:43:49.439 --> 01:43:53.199
more thing, because who cares, We've already gone super long.
1813
01:43:53.239 --> 01:43:55.479
What's a couple more minutes. I'm just gonna pull up
1814
01:43:56.640 --> 01:43:59.239
best quotes from heavyweights, and I'm just gonna kind of
1815
01:43:59.279 --> 01:44:04.600
hustle through and see if there's any uh see, if
1816
01:44:04.600 --> 01:44:08.960
there's any remissed. Yeah, here it is. Attention campers. Lun
1817
01:44:09.279 --> 01:44:11.640
Lunch has been canceled due to a lack of hustle.
1818
01:44:12.039 --> 01:44:17.720
Deal with it, Okay, when Tony's doing some like meditation
1819
01:44:17.840 --> 01:44:22.079
for them. All you need is Mother Earth, Father Sky,
1820
01:44:22.840 --> 01:44:30.359
and your dear old uncle Tony. Okay, when this is
1821
01:44:30.359 --> 01:44:33.119
what Josh says when they find the candy, Josh is
1822
01:44:33.159 --> 01:44:36.439
like the candy belongs to Seymour butts, and Tony's like
1823
01:44:36.479 --> 01:44:39.840
seymore butts, seymore butts, and Josh goes nobody's see more
1824
01:44:39.880 --> 01:44:44.279
butts than you, Uncle Tony. At one point, Lars yells,
1825
01:44:44.319 --> 01:44:47.760
put your fat finger down, if that's right before they're broken,
1826
01:44:48.279 --> 01:44:53.479
Right before you put your fat finger down. Here's another
1827
01:44:53.520 --> 01:44:56.199
purpose time. Did you ever hear the story of Icarus
1828
01:44:56.560 --> 01:44:59.520
who continually rolled the ball up the hill, but when
1829
01:44:59.520 --> 01:45:01.479
he got to close, the ball melted in the heat
1830
01:45:01.520 --> 01:45:06.960
of the sun. You're all like Icarus. I don't remember
1831
01:45:07.000 --> 01:45:11.079
this one, Lars, Okay. This is at the water scene.
1832
01:45:11.159 --> 01:45:13.920
Lars pushes a kid in the water. Hey, don't peel
1833
01:45:13.880 --> 01:45:18.039
in the water. Hey don't drink the water he peed
1834
01:45:18.039 --> 01:45:23.279
in it. Don't put twinkies. We did cover good for us,
1835
01:45:23.319 --> 01:45:28.920
tim Oh, Lars, I'm feeling skinny. Tony. All right, here's one.
1836
01:45:29.079 --> 01:45:31.039
Here's one we forgot and this isn't in the list,
1837
01:45:31.079 --> 01:45:33.720
but it's just coming to mind. When Tony is laying
1838
01:45:33.880 --> 01:45:38.000
on the bed of nails. Oh yeah, this is the
1839
01:45:38.039 --> 01:45:41.399
seventeenth level of the Perkose system. You'll be doing this
1840
01:45:41.439 --> 01:45:48.000
by labor day. Uh. He goes, all right, do it,
1841
01:45:48.079 --> 01:45:52.199
do it, Lars, and Lars goes, it's my honor, Tony
1842
01:45:52.640 --> 01:46:00.439
and then smashes a thing of ice over bloodhammer. Okay,
1843
01:46:01.119 --> 01:46:06.560
the lars his deviated septum. We talked that. Don't tell
1844
01:46:06.600 --> 01:46:13.880
anyone I snuck in some oreos. All right, this is
1845
01:46:14.039 --> 01:46:17.159
near the end. When Tony is chasing chasing Josh down
1846
01:46:17.199 --> 01:46:20.079
the hill and Josh pretends to get a leg cramp,
1847
01:46:21.359 --> 01:46:25.199
and Purkis goes, congratulations, you've joined the seventy six percent
1848
01:46:25.239 --> 01:46:30.560
of Americans who forget to stretch before doing a physical activity.
1849
01:46:32.920 --> 01:46:36.119
When Roy asked Lars Lars, what kind of name is that?
1850
01:46:36.159 --> 01:46:38.800
Where are you from? And Lars gets really close to
1851
01:46:38.880 --> 01:46:45.840
Roy and goes far away. Yeah, oh god, it's a huge,
1852
01:46:45.880 --> 01:46:48.199
long thing. When Jerry's writing to his grandma and he
1853
01:46:48.239 --> 01:46:50.840
says someone once said war as hell, Well they've never
1854
01:46:50.840 --> 01:46:54.920
been to fat camp. He gives a whole big monologue.
1855
01:46:55.119 --> 01:47:02.479
I will I won't read that. Harvey Bushkin one word
1856
01:47:02.560 --> 01:47:08.199
of advice never let anyone sign you checks. Uh. At
1857
01:47:08.239 --> 01:47:12.000
one point, when one of the kids gets on the scale, goes, huh,
1858
01:47:12.239 --> 01:47:19.800
very fat, I see.
1859
01:47:16.479 --> 01:47:19.439
Maybe you weigh in when he says tell Sims he's
1860
01:47:19.479 --> 01:47:21.039
the fattest kid at camp because they have like an
1861
01:47:21.079 --> 01:47:22.840
initial weigh in right first?
1862
01:47:23.359 --> 01:47:32.720
Yep? Okay, uh, all right, Josh comes back. Okay. There's
1863
01:47:32.840 --> 01:47:36.079
when the girls, the camp Magnolia girl start arguing with them.
1864
01:47:36.119 --> 01:47:38.279
She goes, why don't those guys just lose weight? And
1865
01:47:38.319 --> 01:47:40.279
another girl goes, why don't you show them how to
1866
01:47:40.319 --> 01:47:47.079
throw up after meals like you do? Rule, I'm almost
1867
01:47:47.319 --> 01:47:49.359
I'm almost done. But who you know who cares?
1868
01:47:49.439 --> 01:47:50.319
Uh? Oh?
1869
01:47:50.399 --> 01:47:51.840
Yeah, I head to fat camp. No, why do you
1870
01:47:51.880 --> 01:47:54.000
say that because you're fat? Is that your dad?
1871
01:47:54.079 --> 01:47:54.199
No?
1872
01:47:54.239 --> 01:47:55.920
Why do you say that because he's fat too?
1873
01:47:58.680 --> 01:47:59.399
Is that your dad?
1874
01:48:01.119 --> 01:48:07.319
Uh? Uh? Okay. So this is when Josh has been
1875
01:48:07.439 --> 01:48:10.399
kicked out and they're all gossiping and Cody goes, Sam,
1876
01:48:10.680 --> 01:48:15.359
did you hear about Josh? Oh? And the chef jeez,
1877
01:48:16.079 --> 01:48:19.880
geez Louise. The chef is played by Peter Berg, who
1878
01:48:19.920 --> 01:48:22.039
would go on to be like a director. Do you
1879
01:48:22.079 --> 01:48:27.479
remember that that's Peter Berg is the chef and he say,
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he says, sorry to hear about your little friend Josh. Yeah,
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and they're like, I found out the truth about Josh.
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I heard they kicked him out and his parents were
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so mad they wouldn't let him come home. And then
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Cody goes, they left him at a bus stop all
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alone at midnight. They cut back to the chef and
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he goes, he's uh, well, he's dead. Then it cuts
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back to Philip. They said he pulled a knife on
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Tony and now they have him locked up in a
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juvenile delinquent center. And Sam goes, now he's living in
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a park in New York with a guy who has
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no legs, and Jerry goes, no way, and Sam's like,
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I'm just telling you what I heard.
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Right, It is a good way of capturing you know
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how kids that age kind of talk and spread rumors too, Like, hey,
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just telling you man. You know, when you're a kid,
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when you're ten, eleven, twelve, if someone tells you something,
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you're gonna be like I think I'm gonna google it
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and do some more research. You're just like, hey, I heard.
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Man, Yeah, oh yeah, just the way like Gosman, Okay,
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I feel like I should be done. I feel like
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I want to find one more good one to end on. Congratulations,
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mister sim you're the fattest boy in camp. This is
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01:49:45.359 --> 01:49:48.039
when Tony gets out, You've been a good god. Nicholas
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01:49:48.479 --> 01:49:52.319
bear and strong, and he goes, I want to reward
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you with his chocolate kiss, and Nicholas goes throw it
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over and Tony goes, then it would smoosh. We wouldn't
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want that. And then when he grabs Nicholas, he goes,
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looks like London Bridge is falling down. All right, here's
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one last one and then we'll end it. This is
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from Tony purkis Repulse the monkey part, the wild Horse's
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main I think that's how we should end every episode now,
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tim by saying all right, everyone, repulse the monkey part,
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the wild Horse's name. Do you think we did justice
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to heavy waste? Do you think Skate will be happy?
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Do you think we we've fulfilled his request to do Heavyweights?
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Oh yeah, I think this is the deepest side we've
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taken into an individual movie yet.
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All right, well, I think the fact that I feel
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dehydrated and have a headache means that I think it's
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about time to wrap it. Up anything else you wanted
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to mention Tim, this was fun.
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No, I think we accomplished what we set out to
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do with this one.
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We did. You know some podcast ors, other podcasts out
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there that made their bones on, you know, like talking
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about Heat as the greatest movie of all time, and
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you know, everything kind of comes back to Heat. I
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think Heavyweights is our Heat. I think everything else, all
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those movies in the nineties, everything we grew up on,
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it all comes back to I think what is our
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magnum opus, which is Heavyweights? You agree?
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I agree?
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All right, Well, thank you worst friends. You know as
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always repulse the monkey part the wild Horse's main zip
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it up, zip it out, Zippy Doo
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Dah Baker sleazy