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This is a top to you know
what we use on stage. But it's
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very, very special because if you
can see, yeah, the numbers will
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go to eleven. Look right across
the board. Eleven or eleven, mostly
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eleven, and ams go up to
ten. Exactly. Does that mean?
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It's louder? Is that any louder? Well, it's one louder, isn't
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it? It's not ten. You
see, most most blows going to be
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playing at ten, your on ten
heel, all the way up, all
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the way up, yeah, the
way up your own ten on your guitar.
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Where can you go from there?
Well, I don't know where exactly.
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What we do is, if we
need that extra push over the cliff,
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you know, we do put it
up to an even exactly one laugh.
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Why don't you just make ten louder
and make ten be the top number
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and make that a little louder?
These gus eleven. Hello again, friend
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of friend, Dane new you.
I'm nick. I'm dead. You're with
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Nick and David. I don't know. I didn't know if we're going to
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say that together, if it was
just yeah, I said cool, same
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format as always. We hope you're
doing well out there. It's a crisp
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Friday night. It is. It
is a very crisp Friday night. And
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Yeah, yeah, all right,
to hosts. One gas two topics each.
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Yes, this time I have two
topics, David. David does have
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two topics. Yeah, do you
want to start? I'll storry. Yeah,
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they kind of blend, but we'll
see where it takes. Okay,
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but I want to talk about you
know, maybe we've talked about this last
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season, but subscription culture and how
I don't think we have. Okay,
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maybe I talk to you about somebody. I don't know. But obviously now
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we're in a day and age where
it's more popular for people to rent access
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to something rather than buy it out
right. Sure, so, thinking like
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music, you know what else,
and I've been like clothes, magazines,
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magazines like. Yeah, so it's
all. I'm you want to watch Hulu
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or some something that like, you
pay a monthly right rate and you get
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access to Disney plus or Hulu or
Netflix, but at the end of the
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day you don't own any of it, right. Sure. So you know
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that's true with Itunes, that when
you now you buy a song, you're
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buying like the license. You're not
buying a license for the song, like
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you don't own the song, you're
buying play time. But like if you
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bought music to Itunes, and I
don't know, I'd have to do more
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research. I don't think you actually
own anything in your items library, which
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is strange anyway, just a les's
interesting. Well, because, I mean
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you're not talking about like apple music, you talk about the itunes store.
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Oh, I don't know, because
you used to be like a song as
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a dollar or Usus now exactly twenty
nine. Yeah, but those songs,
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yeah, I don't think you actually
own them, right, because when I
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try to use them in videos,
I'm making whatever, like it has all
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these copyright protect like things programmed in
it that don't let you use it,
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sure, and you can't like transfer
it to another device or something or like.
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Right. That's a good yeah,
anyway, fun thought interesting. Yeah,
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so I was telling you this before
start recording, but I had to
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rent a car for various reasons,
but it got me thinking about first of
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all, it was a big hassle
because I had to go drive all the
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way to Cleveland are for to get
a car. Drives an hour up to
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Cleveland, an hour to Cleveland to
get a car to just drive it an
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hour back. It's saved a ton
of money. It was much better than
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renting out of right the luster thing. But it got me thinking about car
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how we have a car industry I
think, has adapted yet to this subscriber
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culture. Okay, I don't know
if that's a good or bad thing,
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but what I'm thinking about is like, you know, you can buy a
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car or you can lease a car. Sure, and I want to know
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your thoughts on this, but in
my experience, and I'm a car person
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so I follow a lot of like
the outrageous car stuffs. Maybe I'm my
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view is off, but the people
who tend to lease cars a lot are
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people who are maybe retired or super
wealthy and they just want the newer car
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right every four years. Don't want
to yeah, sure it don't. So
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they don't want to deal with like
maintenance or anything. They just want to
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have the newest lay is and greatest
thing. And at the end of the
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day you don't own anything. So
you're putting all this money out but interrupt
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there's no return. Use money buying
a car, drive it off a lot.
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We all know that saying. But
you really lose. You have nothing
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that you own when you lease a
car, just like music services or whatever.
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And I know that there's like we
have a car shire thing at our
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college. That's like an affordable way
to run a car by the hour.
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M There's a yard of turrow.
Yeah, I'm like Ma even and other
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yeah, I am wondering what your
thoughts are if the car manufacturers themselves,
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not like third party companies, right, created some kind of third way to
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purchase a car or access to a
car, so you can either buy a
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car or lise a car, or
some subscription like rent a card, like
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monthly or like or something, because
I feel like for like, I don't
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know, like I my first cars
is going to be a used car.
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Yeah, I mean, I'm not
going to lease a car because I don't
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like that. That's just throwing right
to me. Like I'd rather put the
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extra money at cost to own the
car outright, sure, then to just
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lease a car. Right. What
are your thought are you similarized on?
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I'm on board with that perfect world. Like it's time to buy a car
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for whatever a reason right now.
Yeah, that's definitely where I'M gonna end
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up to. Yeah, and with
APPS and how like there's an APP for
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everything now, like I feel like
they these services like where people can lend
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out their cars. I feel like
it hasn't hit the nail on the head
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yet, sure, because it's not
super accessible. You still have to be
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over twenty five, right. There's
a lot and it could be expensive and
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it's not really meant for a month
or two the two months or that kind
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of thing. I think that's that's
the big thing for me because like,
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yeah, if I want to rent
a car to go to the store,
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I'll just hop on maven or to
row or something and I can pick out
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a car and use that car.
But if I have, like if I
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don't want to buy a car outright
or I can't afford to buy a car
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out right, but I have to
go to work every day, right,
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you're not going to run a car
every morning to do that because that would
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just be really expensive. But yeah, if they're if it was like you
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paid this much a month, like
a heating bill or something. Yeah,
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like a glorified like I mean like
renting a car, but kind of a
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subscription tears thing, because everything's you
know, and I don't want to have
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another subscription in my life. But
like, I just feel like the Gen
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z maybe millennial way of how the
old and the rich least all new Ferrari
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every year. Yeah, well,
if there was a way that we could,
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I feel like the manufactures could spin
around some way to make money off
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of that, right, because just
like renting a car, like if you
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crash the car, like it's their
happiest day ever because sure, they get
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the money out of the insurance.
Sure I can get the new car.
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Right. So I feel like there's
a way to do that and I'm just
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curious about like if you think that
in the future, like we're going to
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shift to a if how we buy
cars is going to change dramatically, because
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I feel like everything else in our
world has right, maybe except with even
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close, because Amazon, sure,
I mean I've bought some cloth, I
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thought, shoes and stuff from Amazon. I just like the car market has
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not been affected that much yet.
You're right, other than cars not being
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sold as much. Because, yeah, I don't know. I logistically I
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don't know how any of that would
work, but I think it definitely could.
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Like I like if Tesla offered a
service where you pay, like I
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don't even know what a fair price
would be, like a monthly rate where
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you basically have access to Tesla vehicles. Sure, would you do that?
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About prop I mean depending on the
price, but yeah, for some electric
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like Yep, you know, like
a like a service where you can drive
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your car to your house or apartment
and now back to the place every single
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day. Yeah, you know,
you know this is slightly tangential, but
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I think this would solve a lot
of problems for people who can't afford I'm
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thinking about there was this tweet recently
that I saw, which, you know,
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is always a good start to a
conversation, but it was basically the
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explaining that it was by someone who
just recently taking a lift ride or an
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Uber Ride. Basically the driver was
explaining to that person that there's this whole
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like unofficial lift subscription, like lease
service thing that's happening. So essentially there
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are people around the country, and
this one was in Virginia, but who
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will buy just like a shitload of
cars and then if you need to,
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if you need a car or you
need to drive, you need to make
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money or whatever, you lease the
cars from that man. Yeah, I've
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heard of that, to drive them, but then the money from your lift
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eyes goes to the owner of the
car. So you go, all the
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money you make goes back to that
guy and you have to basically drive enough
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to hit your lease to even break
even. So it's kind of like a
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landlord like tendant situation. But I
think that a lot of people that do
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things like that are people who can't
afford to buy a car outright and are
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looking for ways to have access to
a vehicle. Right. I just think
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that I've seen videos. I saw
a video at somebody who you know when
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you get those really rich people on
Youtube and they're like, I'm doing this
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for a day. It's doing something
that is a pain in the neck.
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Yeah, this guy like said in
instead of running from enterprise at the airport,
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I'm going to rent through a Turro
Esk service. Right. But it
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was from a guy who bought a
bunch of cars and I know that because
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he went. He went when he
got off a plane his he had to
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take a shuttle somewhere and then find
the car in the parking lot, call
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the guide. He remotely activated it. Of course, this is a guy
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in his house, like this is
not a company thing. Yeah, and
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it was paying the neck and like
I don't want if I were to do
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this power, to be a customer
of a service like this, I would
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want a company, right. I
want the actually good, like owner manufacturer,
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and that's why I think, like
if car companies did this, that's
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interesting. Could have I mean,
there's got to be away, because then,
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even after the car is no longer
deemed like good for the subscription program,
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like, they can sell it right, pretty of you know, I
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don't know. Yes, feel I
think that makes a lot of sense.
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Yeah, get on it. So
we have it. We have an entrepreneur
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real center here stinking about it.
It's like, you know. Oh,
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and here's the other thing I'm going
to say. When I went to the
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Cleveland Hurts. Yeah, so I
have so it's pain the neck. Running
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a car hurts, but this is, yeah, hurts. Let me tell
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you why. At everybody WHO's under
twenty five, if you are a AAA
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member, HM, they wave all
of the underage crap. You could have
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just run to the UHAUL, because
I think that's eighteen. Yeah, but
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like, but any of a you
all, yeah, I'd be scared to
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drive. I'm not scared of driving, but a UHAUL. Yeah, that
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my said be true. Driving.
You haulk to me just screams, I'm
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moving, I don't know what I'm
doing. Yeah, you know what I
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saw. Speaking of you haul,
would you see? I saw something on
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Youtube. Do you know the term
about you haul and lesbian culture? I
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don't think so. This, the
other had learned, is literally a so
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what side of Youtube are you?
It was on recommend that was on my
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recommended apparently. What is it called? Shoot? And I know that this
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was a term coined by I don't
want to say all, because maybe I
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don't know, but like a part
at least of the lesbian community. Okay,
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pop culture, but you haul lesbian
or a you haul couple or you
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haulow woman or something. Okay,
we basically it means like that. You
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get so attached so easily that the
next day you read it to you haul
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Andy Movement. How was like I
googled it on like urban dictionary, and
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it's like this like thing, because
when I saw the thumbnail, is this
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woman with a you haul like brochure
right, and I didn't even want to
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video bouts of the comments. I
don't know how I stumble on this,
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but and a comments like, oh
my God, like I love that,
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like you all the stuff and I
was like what it's like? Yeah,
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that that sounds like I've had that
conversation with Maddie May. That definitely sounds
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like something she would she would enjoy
it was so far. How is sure
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she knows? Yeah, I thought
that was so like genius and it made
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me think I need to get more
on the terms of stuff. But anyway,
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yeah, yeah, cool, couple
things. They're all right, all
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right, I'm looking up on my
soapbox for a minute. Okay, as
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you know, and I'm sure a
lot of the people listening now, I
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am an avid soccer fan. HMM, I will watch basically whatever is on,
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but I am a huge follower of
the English premier league and it has
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been an absolutely crazy EPL sins season. So Liverpool is insanely dominant. They
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have, I think, not one
is single like. They've only they've only
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not won a single game all season
and it was in October and they tied.
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So they're undefeated. There are only
three points separating fourth place from seventh
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place, which is crazy at this
point in the season, especially because fourth
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place is a qualifying spot for a
European Cup, so big deal. And
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then Manchester City has just been banned
for two years from European competition because they
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violated financial fair play regulations, and
they're also about to get docked, I
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think, EPL points for it as
well, which is huge because they are
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reigning champions, so really big deal. I'm a Manchester United Fan. We've
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been struggling in recent years, basically
since Sir outs Ferguson retired. We've blown
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big transfers, we lost players,
we've cycled through managers pretty quickly, so
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we went from David Moyes to Louis
Van Colle to Jose Mourinho, who I
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still detest with every fiber of my
being. I think we're finally in a
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little more consistent place with our current
manager, which is old going our soul
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star who, for those who don't
know, is a Manchester United Legend already.
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He used to play for the team. He was a goal scorer in
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a a championship game that was really
important to we want to trouble while he
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was playing with us, so he's
already kind of a figurehead. But we've
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definitely been performing better as well.
We beat Chelsea this past week, but
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we're still kind of struggling, and
so I want to talk a little bit
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about why. I think that is
because, you know, the whole the
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whole point of Manchester United is that
it's one of the largest soccer clubs and
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sports teams in general in the world
and that is supposed to be too big
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to fail, and so I want
to just a little breakdown on why it
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is failing. So I think part
of that is injuries. Right, I
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don't know what's wrong with our training
system or our physios, but we have
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a ridiculous number of players get injured
every season, which really hamstrings the team
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because it means we have to draw
up we have to pull up like usually
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really good but also really inexperienced,
like nineteen year olds from our youth team.
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So that's a problem. I think
there's also a problem with Sir Alex
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Ferguson. When he retired. He
was incredible, but he kind of ruled
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the club with an iron fist.
It was a really outdated style of like
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managerial coaching. There are like like
to the extent that there are stories about
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him parading around the locker room with
a broad sword in his hand to like
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scare or intimidate players, like he
was a character. So I think that
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there's probably a lot to say there
and you could go into that more.
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But what I want to focus on, and I'll try to make this as
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succinct as possible, is that I
as both as a lifelong fan and as
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a stockholder, because I do own
five shares of Manchester United Stock. YEA,
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and incredibly frustrated and pissed at this
point at Manchester United Ownership. So
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Manchester United is owned by an American
family, which is already unusual. Already
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opt to have that start. It's
owned by the Glazer brothers, so three
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brothers. They leverage a buy out
fifteen years ago, so two thousand and
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five, for about seven hundred and
ninety million dollars. So spent a lot
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of money to gain like, I
think, a seventy five percent interest or
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control. They also, just if
you're curious, I don't know what this
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does about them, but they also
own the Tampa Bay buccaneers. So there's
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that and I think that they're they've
done a lot of things wrong since they
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took over. They're running the club
essentially like a this like a for profit
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corporate business instead of a sports team, which I think is causing a lot
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of problems. We've blown big money
on players that just didn't work out or
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who weren't worth it. Players like
Juan Maza, who were supposed to speak
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play up, who have the opposite
effect, or players like Marilyn F Laney,
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who are really good at a certain
thing but not greate all around.
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And then players that just haven't really
worked out. So like Paul pub a
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huge name. Probably remember him from
World Cup right mouth. I'll cow a
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couple other people who are really great
players but just haven't seemed to kind of
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Mesh with the club. With that, I think the glaziers haven't supported managers
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requests. So you know, when
Van Hall says, or has said in
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the past, we need to spend
money on big defenders, the the managers
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refused to kind of dish out that
money for those transfers. And then,
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more importantly, they're absent. Like
I could not, if you ask me,
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gun to my head to draw you
a photo of what either any one
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of the three brothers looked like.
I don't think I could. I have
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absolutely no idea what they do day
to day. They're the chief executive,
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ed wood, word is kind of
their representatives that he runs everything. But
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so that's a real problem. And
so I just want to I think,
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just to just to hammer this point
in, I'm going to share a couple
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statistics. The first is that before
the glaziers took over in Manchester, before
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the glaziers took over in two thousand
and five, Manchester United as a club
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has had not been in debt since
one thousand nine hundred and thirty one.
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So I'll not quite a century,
but damn close. Yeah, at this
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point in time. Last time I've
looked, do you want to guess how
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much that we're in right now?
M They bought the team for how seven
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hundred and ninety? Bought the team
for seven ninety dollars and I have the
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debt and pounds. So little different, but close enough. I don't know,
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thirty million. Manchester United is at
this moment in time four hundred and
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ninety six million in pounds in debt. We it's obscene. Because why?
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They're losing? Because of sponsor because, yeah, we're performed. I mean
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we are. Sponsors are strangely good. Like we got this partnership with Chevy.
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We have tryed to Chevy Logos on
our jerseys now, like the sponsors
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are okay. I just think that
it's been really dead financial management in buying
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players, choosing where spend our money
right, investing in different kind of clubs
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and virch and things. They've also
been listed on the New York Stock Exchange
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since I forget what year that was, but I was in high school.
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So she's any six years ago seem
could be put on the wow, I
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didn't either, but I yeah,
I definitely have shares now. But so
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we're like about five hundred million pounds
in debt at this point. We have
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paid, and I don't know what
the timeline for this is, but probably
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the last I did. If I
had to guess, I'd probably the last
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ten years. We have paid over
seven hundred sixty five million pounds in interest
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on that dead for players and for
other different things. The glazers have had
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to refinance multiple times. I kind
of split that up and manage it.
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Two Thousand and ten, I think, was the last time they did it.
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And so at the end of the
day, I this isn't you.
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This conversation is as interactive as my
topics usually hard like I'm not really asking,
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yeah, you as much, but
I just think that like they got,
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they need to go and I don't
know if that's just there are a
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few Americans that own premier league teams. I don't know if it's just that
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Americans shouldn't be involved in soccer at
this point in time. I don't know
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if it's like the glazers themselves are
really bad. I mean clearly Americ.
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I mean Liverpool is owned by the
like Fenway Sports Group. MM, so
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they're fine. I just that I
am. There's this huge glazers out movement
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and I think I'm finally on board. I just think it's ridiculous. You
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know this has been happening with the
New York Knicks. No, I s
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well feel last by six seven years, has a really fans of chanted to
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the owner when the owner goes to
games sell the team and the owner actually
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got the fan who the start of
the Chan ejected and banned from all mixed
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games. I mean I would love
to see that at a united game.
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As a big Lazers don't fucking go
to the United Games. I like,
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that's crazy. I think that.
Yeah, maybe you cheated like a I
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mean how do you have all this
buddy business whatever and then you started writing
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the team like a business and it
I just don't and I knew you'd like.
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I know you're not as in the
soccer as I am, but you're
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a sports guy, so I knew
you. This rehearing a lot. Yeah,
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this is a trend in America,
like in NBA everything. I mean
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I MBA is happening Formula One,
because I was inter nationals l like.
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I don't know that this is happening
in SOT, like in European South American
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when sock this soccer besides match.
I mean I'm sure it's happening other places,
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but I don't know if it's happening
to this scale. A lot of
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teams are also, this is kind
of unrelated, but are being brought out
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of by Sawty, like billionaires.
MMM, and there's a really strong movement
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also, like the I think Manchester
United fans want the lasers out that.
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They're also very against having like sawty
owners. Yeah, yeah, exactly,
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well, because I know, I
mean they're in debt, so I don't
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know about that. But like they
mean, the Knicks, for instance,
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are making money, right, a
lot of money, but they suck.
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Yeah, so the owner's fine,
but obviously the New York New Yorkers are
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like, well, the hell right, but in Man City case. Geez,
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that's there's also a fun this is
against slightly tangential, but there's a
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fun story somewhere online. Probably find
it about the Chicago cubs, HMM,
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and how they were just so bad
for so long, but no one did
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anything about it because their fans were
so it was such a loyal base that
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everyone was still coming to games and
buying swag and food. So, like,
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no one know, there was no
incentive to change. Yeah, from
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a like a pure financial standpoint.
So I don't know, there's a whole
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host of things going wrong, but
I think that Avrom, Malcolm, whatever
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the third brother's name is, they
gotta go. They need to leave immediately.
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So, yeah, wanted to talk
about that cheese. All right.
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Yeah, so, so you have
another topic that kind of blends with your
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first one, kind of. Yeah, so we see, sort of I'm
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thinking about another topic. Okay,
I was gonna say originally because I think
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I kind of addressed both topics,
but either way either. Yeah, so
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I want to talk about I saw
on instagram be even like chucky cheese,
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not not in all long in time, but yes, you see, yeah,
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seventeen years ago. Yeah, yeah, so I am wondering if these
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arcades, you know how everyone's like
our kids are like breeding kids to learn
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how to gamble. Yeah, they're, they become you know. So I'm
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wondering if kids I feel like I
feel like the arcade is not as big
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as it was right. Heck,
when we were little, I think our
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parents were even like, oh,
it's not like how it used to be.
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Yeah, because back for sure,
you know why, that we liked
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going. I mean I thought it
was cool that you could earn tickets and
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get prizes, right, even though
like value to you know, obviously.
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But now with like you have earlier, with boot boxes and stuff, I
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feel like that's replacing, okay,
the arcade space, and I'm wondering,
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like kids, like I wonder,
like if I was seven this year,
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right, what would I do?
Like what would be a birthday party?
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I'd be cool to go to,
or like something like a special a case
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as kind of thing. Okay,
that's not going to the movies or like
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going to some cool like restaurant or
like right, the arcade, because I
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feel like that's I mean, I
think David Busters is having a moment too,
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like that's don't look big Ark.
Thank the fuss they forgot about.
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How are they doing? I've one
just opened up in downtown silver spraying there
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were. I live in Maryland,
so they're clearly not that downsize. Words.
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I have no idea, because you
got kids playing games, but then
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you also have out like adults.
They're going like a bar in this.
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Yeah, yeah, that's tasting.
About David Busters is that I went with
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my brother like my freshman years of
college. I came home right we were
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like my parents were out that night
and so I we were likes do something.
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I was like, screwl it's going
to even busters, because I have
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been whatever. Yeah, and you
know the game that you stack the blocks,
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called stackers. Yes, you like
thinging and like it's always rigged at
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the top. They don't right even. Yeah. Well, I one.
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They have that xbox on the machine, the playstation, the WII and the
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all this stuff. I was like
exciting. So I was like I'm gonna
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sell this shit, like I don't
yeah, yeah, but you know what?
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The guy came over. It said, Oh, congratulations, you want
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and I was like yeah, I'm
trying to select the prize because I watched
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tons of youtube videos. Right,
happen? Some people win this machine.
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The Guy said, oh no,
this isn't actually what you win. This
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is showing what you can when,
instead, you get a bunch of tickets.
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Of course I got like two thousand. Take its butt. The SBOX
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was like two hundred Tho tickets,
right, is the biggest BS. You
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can go back and win that exact
game every day. Yeah, yeah,
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so I'm wondering just like what,
like, what's Trent like? What's trend?
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Did you know anything? That's am
I am. I in touch with
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the seven year old commuter listeners,
in touch fourteen, twelve, I don't
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know, like I honestly feel like
kids, just like like, I mean,
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I cann't know what there is to
do. I'll give you. I'll
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give you the first thing to it's
the same thing that pop into my head,
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which is laser tag and paintball.
Okay, I feel like those are
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always safe, or like gocarning,
although I feel like fewer people do that
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now then do a lot of people
paintball? I don't know. I think
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laser tag is probably more, let's
safer and also for younger, like you're
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not going to take your seven year
old to go shoot? Yeah, Pay
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Ball, got I mean most people
aren't, but you'll take you'll take them
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to a laser tag facility. Wow, but those are the only two things
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that I could think of off the
top of my head. But like that's
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not unless year old me with one. I feel like our world's crushing like
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the good things from like everything's at
home now. I mean, do you
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remember your own birthday parties? Like
what did you because I, like Lou
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we, I had wanted chunky cheese. Yeah, that was like third grade
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stop at home. Yep, you
know Shit, like we gotta like a
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what is it called? It's not
a reptologist. Yeah, but with that
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the reptiles and animals makes yeah,
I had one of those two. I
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honestly just feel like like if I
I told that to even a seven year
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old or six year old, right, right, eight year old, like
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hey, like, we're gonna have
a guy cool or bring cool stakes,
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and so I honestly think they did. Yeah, whatever, and keep playing
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for it. Yeah, that's good. That's a crazy to be about.
408
00:28:08.140 --> 00:28:12.769
I can almost confidently say that.
I mean, my my family is very
409
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into and was very into like DIY
party theme. So like I had a
410
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renaissance fair themed party. That's at
one point and we had it was like
411
00:28:22.690 --> 00:28:26.160
raining, but my dad basically that
had the PINIATA and the backyard, but
412
00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:30.720
then would give us he had like
a it was like a broom handle that
413
00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:34.079
he was using as a like a
jousting lance or whatever it's called, and
414
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then he would pull us across or
push us across the yard in the wagon
415
00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:41.240
and we have to like jause at
the PINIATA. That's awesome. So,
416
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like that kind of thing is unique. And one year we did like a
417
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there was a our house was I
think our house is getting renovated during my
418
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birthday, so we pushed it October
but did like a Halloween haunted house theme
419
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thing and like did up our basement
and partitioned off walls and like. It
420
00:28:55.430 --> 00:28:57.460
was a really good time. But
I think those were very unique kind of
421
00:28:57.619 --> 00:29:03.220
like like I think you can get
creative with it and do really cool things,
422
00:29:03.460 --> 00:29:07.819
but I feel like that'sing go cartie
or doing the Korean thing. Like
423
00:29:07.859 --> 00:29:11.049
those both sound like I would love
doing this. Yeah, I honestly don't
424
00:29:11.130 --> 00:29:14.450
know if like yeah, I mean, I'll go this is you want to
425
00:29:14.450 --> 00:29:17.890
go paintballing. It's or laser tag. There's a place here we should totally
426
00:29:17.930 --> 00:29:21.289
go lazer taging. Is it really
a good carting thing? Yeah, the
427
00:29:21.329 --> 00:29:22.970
goodle crding place sucks, but the
lace law have a go. I never
428
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gone to the laser tag so okay, yeah, fuck it, list.
429
00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:32.119
Fuck it, list. That's interesting. What did you do in you seven
430
00:29:32.160 --> 00:29:36.240
years old? Yeah, tell US
tells about swear is different this. Send
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US photos from your seven year old
birthday party. Literally, yeah, that
432
00:29:40.470 --> 00:29:44.309
was just as thought. That's great. I like that. I honestly think
433
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that I don't know what I'm gonna
like. I don't know if I'm falling
434
00:29:49.789 --> 00:29:52.859
out of touch or I just growing
up and think that what kids are do
435
00:29:52.980 --> 00:29:56.900
is lame. I just think it's
said that like right, we would use
436
00:29:56.900 --> 00:29:59.660
your birthday. I don't care,
just bringing pizza the play for tonight,
437
00:29:59.740 --> 00:30:02.420
like we do every other day.
Like that's strange. I mean, and
438
00:30:02.539 --> 00:30:06.059
I I worked on tech for this
person's house and these this. That's literally
439
00:30:06.099 --> 00:30:11.529
something that I listened watching place and
I was like, whoa yeah, kid
440
00:30:11.569 --> 00:30:14.529
doesn't even want you know. Yeah, I also I'm like, I'm not
441
00:30:14.609 --> 00:30:17.609
a huge birthday person anymore and I
can't pinpoint that change, but like now
442
00:30:17.690 --> 00:30:19.490
I don't want to do anything for
my birthday. So I'm having I'm struggling,
443
00:30:19.490 --> 00:30:25.200
I think, just generally. Yeah, and I feel that I did
444
00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:29.000
too, like I got lucky this
last year. My my birthday was on
445
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the same day as three different international
soccer finals, so I got to watch
446
00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:33.880
the women's World Cup final party.
I know, literally, I was.
447
00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:37.549
I just and it was by twenty
one too, so I was a literally
448
00:30:37.589 --> 00:30:40.869
just spent the entire day at bars
watching soccer, which is like ideal,
449
00:30:40.950 --> 00:30:44.509
right, but like, I wouldn't
have planned anything, but just a day
450
00:30:44.549 --> 00:30:47.150
offers like do what you want to
do. Yeah, like now, yeah,
451
00:30:48.069 --> 00:30:52.180
HMM, yeah, all right.
Well, I almost just don't want
452
00:30:52.180 --> 00:30:55.779
to go to my next topic because
I it's going to be. It's a
453
00:30:55.859 --> 00:31:00.940
very different vibe. This is a
sad but it's not sad a little bit.
454
00:31:00.220 --> 00:31:06.690
Man. It's about mental health.
Okay, I would like to talk
455
00:31:06.730 --> 00:31:10.369
about something that I've been thinking about
a lot lately and I've had conversations with
456
00:31:10.410 --> 00:31:15.410
a few different people about this,
and that is the relationship between depression or
457
00:31:15.450 --> 00:31:21.880
mental health and exercise. You're an
in shape person. You work out.
458
00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:25.640
Yeah, you're definitely more in shape
that a lot of us. Okay,
459
00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:29.759
I think idea I attributing to my
metabolism. Okay, I was good,
460
00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:32.359
but but do you think? Do
you feel like working out helps you kind
461
00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:34.150
of manage your mood? Yeah,
yeah, Yep, Yep, a hundred
462
00:31:34.190 --> 00:31:37.670
percent. Okay, I know that
because when I was home, we're like
463
00:31:37.750 --> 00:31:41.630
winter break or even summer, sometimes
I do really like lonely and board or
464
00:31:41.670 --> 00:31:45.950
whatever I go from around. I
be fine, right, I'm stressed here
465
00:31:45.990 --> 00:31:48.579
and go running, sure, and
it's just better. Yeah, so I
466
00:31:48.259 --> 00:31:51.940
a hundred percent feel that that.
I think working out most of the time
467
00:31:51.980 --> 00:31:56.220
does help me manage my mood.
I'm gonna I'm just going to say I
468
00:31:57.859 --> 00:32:02.769
work with I work on myself a
lot concerning mental mental health and mental illness,
469
00:32:02.809 --> 00:32:06.250
but also just this is like what
I'm going to say now is based
470
00:32:06.250 --> 00:32:10.130
on my own experience and things I
read and study the scene. I think
471
00:32:10.210 --> 00:32:15.170
that the yes, exercise is wonderful
and it's useful and it releases endorphins and
472
00:32:15.410 --> 00:32:17.400
it gives you a reset on your
mental health as could be physically, like
473
00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:21.720
all of that good stuff, not
just for people struggling with mental health but
474
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:27.920
with anyone. Yeah, I think
there's a problem that starts when people talk
475
00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:32.230
about exercise like it's a cure all
or an answer to mental health. Yeah,
476
00:32:32.430 --> 00:32:36.269
kind of the same vein as like
you don't need a vaccine for that.
477
00:32:36.309 --> 00:32:38.269
They're try these all natural remedies.
It's like like that same kind of
478
00:32:38.390 --> 00:32:44.420
like you don't need medication for this, like just work out because and like
479
00:32:44.740 --> 00:32:46.460
clearly, exercise is not going to
cure depression on its own. If it
480
00:32:46.500 --> 00:32:51.819
did, we would have figured that
out a long time ago. And I
481
00:32:52.299 --> 00:32:55.299
would venture to say that if you're
anxious and you're feeling really anxious and you
482
00:32:55.420 --> 00:32:58.890
go for a run and then you
come back and you're totally reset and you
483
00:32:58.930 --> 00:33:02.569
magically feel better, you're not suffering
from anxiety disorder and necessarily you just have
484
00:33:02.730 --> 00:33:08.170
the symptoms. And I don't think
you can complete sense. Like everyone feels
485
00:33:08.170 --> 00:33:13.279
anxious at some point. I don't
think you can conflate that with a chronic,
486
00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:19.599
diagnosable disease. I think that's what's
dangerous. So, like, I
487
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:22.079
mean most of the time, yes, when I work out, I feel
488
00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:25.319
much better, but sometimes I don't. Sometimes it's just it's just whatever,
489
00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:29.509
like I leave feeling the exact same
way I felt when I started. Yeah,
490
00:33:30.950 --> 00:33:34.990
but I think more importantly than that
is that sometimes working out or exercising
491
00:33:35.069 --> 00:33:38.269
just isn't within reach because like a
huge symptom of depression and mental illness is
492
00:33:39.029 --> 00:33:44.259
lethargy or an inability to do things
like clean your room or shower, open
493
00:33:44.259 --> 00:33:47.980
a curtain or like do very basic
things like that, and I think asking
494
00:33:49.019 --> 00:33:52.579
people already struggling to kind of transcend
those symptoms and do something that's just so
495
00:33:53.299 --> 00:33:59.369
beyond reach is is really patronizing,
and so I always get a little testy.
496
00:33:59.410 --> 00:34:00.690
I mean I get very I could
defensive very easily, but when I
497
00:34:01.250 --> 00:34:05.890
talked about how I'm not doing well
mentally and people's first instinct is to ask
498
00:34:05.970 --> 00:34:08.809
me if I'm working out or like
living a healthy life, I think that
499
00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:15.360
is something that I immediately kind of
push back on. And then you also,
500
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:20.559
like working like the gym can also
trigger in itself like anxiety or guilt
501
00:34:20.599 --> 00:34:23.909
or other symptoms. I think I
just think in general exercise isn't a good
502
00:34:24.070 --> 00:34:29.389
mental health management strategy unless you already
have a good relationship with it before that
503
00:34:30.670 --> 00:34:32.269
right, but I think if you
if you've never worked out and you just
504
00:34:32.349 --> 00:34:36.550
start working out because someone tells you
to, because you're struggling through mental health,
505
00:34:36.789 --> 00:34:37.739
you're going to end up relying on
it or it's going to put you
506
00:34:37.739 --> 00:34:40.739
in a toxic cycle or you're going
to feel guild when you don't work like
507
00:34:40.739 --> 00:34:45.340
I think that there's a whole host
of problems that come with that. So
508
00:34:45.460 --> 00:34:47.420
that's a pretty quick thing, but
I just wanted to say like, yes,
509
00:34:47.579 --> 00:34:51.699
of course everyone should work out if
they can. Everyone benefits from exercise.
510
00:34:52.340 --> 00:34:53.769
It doesn't make it a cure for
anything, and I think we stop
511
00:34:53.929 --> 00:35:00.809
framing it like it is. Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. I think.
512
00:35:01.889 --> 00:35:05.809
Yeah, because I have, because
I ideal with some shit too,
513
00:35:06.250 --> 00:35:08.840
and I think that. Yeah,
I mean I already had a good relationship
514
00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:14.280
with it, is working out before. But for me and maybe a lot
515
00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:21.710
of people, if I run,
I subsequently eat healthy and sleep well right,
516
00:35:21.829 --> 00:35:23.829
which doesn't hurt anything, but I
think of it like that, like
517
00:35:23.989 --> 00:35:30.469
I feel better about myself physically mentally
because I'm eating healthy right, sleeping but
518
00:35:31.150 --> 00:35:34.150
and that makes you really good.
That's like, yeah, I don't know's
519
00:35:34.190 --> 00:35:36.780
like a catalyst. Yeah, like
it is direct. Yeah, that makes
520
00:35:36.820 --> 00:35:38.659
you feel great, whatever, but
there's sometimes right run or something. It
521
00:35:38.820 --> 00:35:43.219
doesn't write anything. I think it's
really powerful to help people kind of get
522
00:35:43.219 --> 00:35:45.179
off their feet and start moving.
Yeah, but I don't think it's like
523
00:35:45.260 --> 00:35:47.420
you can't you can't say, Oh, I worked out for an hour to
524
00:35:47.460 --> 00:35:50.489
day, I don't have to go
to therapy. Like that's not that's not
525
00:35:51.170 --> 00:35:53.849
a good move. Yeah, are
you seeing that? People saying that in
526
00:35:53.929 --> 00:35:57.050
like news media, like, Dude, how did you come on? I've
527
00:35:57.050 --> 00:36:00.250
been seeing on social media a little
and I also just you know, personally,
528
00:36:00.369 --> 00:36:02.769
like my family's very supportive. I
love my family, but a lot
529
00:36:02.809 --> 00:36:07.559
of the times their response to like, I'm having a rough moment right now
530
00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:09.960
is like come to the gym with
me and like yes, that's good and
531
00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:14.159
it helps, but it doesn't always
help. And then I also had a
532
00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:17.519
conversation with one of my friends,
one of our friends, about it recently
533
00:36:19.469 --> 00:36:22.989
and started thinking about a little more. There's so, yeah, cool,
534
00:36:23.670 --> 00:36:27.110
good, all right, we're going
to take our first and only break of
535
00:36:27.190 --> 00:36:31.150
the show and then, yeah,
and then we'll bring our guests in hot
536
00:36:31.230 --> 00:36:35.820
tip or there's a guy that I
don't know. You met him before.
537
00:36:36.340 --> 00:36:55.730
So we'll take a break and then
I'll come back and recroduce them. We're
538
00:36:55.809 --> 00:37:01.079
back. We are here with the
cardinality king himself, the infamous guests that
539
00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:06.840
we always talked about. Where you
are second guests or sour four? It
540
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:08.800
was early. It was like trust
to Ian Henry. Where the first?
541
00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:14.440
Yeah, something, I think that's
that's before I really liked knew you and
542
00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:17.909
like you were. Like we weren't
even based by you had we weren't even
543
00:37:17.949 --> 00:37:22.789
think didn't even have a facebook.
Yeah, Alyssa was definitely one of the
544
00:37:22.869 --> 00:37:28.150
earlier ones too. Yeah, but
yeah, there's nothing's changed. What we're
545
00:37:28.190 --> 00:37:31.539
doing the same thing we've been doing
for a year plus. I'll filiate on
546
00:37:31.579 --> 00:37:37.179
what we talked about. I got
up on my soapbox and basically told everyone
547
00:37:37.260 --> 00:37:42.099
that the glazers needs to sell match
US united because they're running the company club
548
00:37:42.219 --> 00:37:46.010
into the ground. And then I
talked about the relationship between mental health and
549
00:37:46.250 --> 00:37:51.650
exercise. And then we have two
questions for you, courtesy of David.
550
00:37:51.730 --> 00:37:53.610
So the first one, yeah,
my first one, and the cardinality related,
551
00:37:53.650 --> 00:37:59.480
because I sure you know they're not
part of no, that's true.
552
00:37:59.960 --> 00:38:04.239
It was a topic we did this
one are my questions. If there was
553
00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:07.480
a monthly car rental service, so
I instead of buying or leasing, you
554
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:12.400
could rent it month by month,
but not like toxic, like hurts and
555
00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:17.110
prize rental car, like like Chrysler's
rents, like they have a subscription service,
556
00:38:17.269 --> 00:38:22.630
like spotify. Premium is like card
premium for Gen Z and millennial people
557
00:38:22.869 --> 00:38:25.949
that can't afford to buy a car
outright but also don't want to just lease
558
00:38:25.989 --> 00:38:32.099
a car. Throw all that money. It seems reasonable at first. Take
559
00:38:32.380 --> 00:38:37.059
right your parking have the wrong tree, because I don't like to drive anyway.
560
00:38:37.420 --> 00:38:43.730
So what I use it? No, but little car. I don't
561
00:38:43.809 --> 00:38:46.050
want a car. Do you think
you're not going to get now I realize
562
00:38:46.090 --> 00:38:49.769
that I'm gonna have to have a
car and I'm very disappointed by this.
563
00:38:50.170 --> 00:38:52.369
There let be sense. So he's
not the target demographic for your your market,
564
00:38:52.409 --> 00:38:54.570
David. Well, he wouldn't buy
a car. Yeah, and like
565
00:38:55.519 --> 00:38:59.239
because I'm going to need a car. I mean I need a usually,
566
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:00.920
so I'm just going to get a
car as opposed to rent one like monthly.
567
00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:06.960
You want to own it out right. Yeah, all right, okay.
568
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:09.150
Well, there's more interesting question.
What did you do for your Seventh
569
00:39:09.230 --> 00:39:14.750
Birthday Party? What was your favorite
childhood like? Yeah, did you got
570
00:39:14.750 --> 00:39:16.469
a chucky cheese or go, go
carding or go to the farm. I
571
00:39:16.510 --> 00:39:20.510
don't know what the hell. Go
to a farm. Shit, that's a
572
00:39:20.590 --> 00:39:22.989
thing actually, um, really,
yeah, gets go to farm sweets.
573
00:39:23.300 --> 00:39:31.019
Let's go to farms. Man,
I don't know what I do for birthday
574
00:39:31.059 --> 00:39:35.500
parties. When I was a kids, like, I guess, my mom
575
00:39:35.539 --> 00:39:37.849
would make up a bunch of different
food and we would have my family over
576
00:39:37.929 --> 00:39:43.849
and releat food that would that would
appeal to us. We sold damn.
577
00:39:43.889 --> 00:39:46.010
Yeah. So David's point was that, like chuck e cheese or like.
578
00:39:46.409 --> 00:39:50.849
We thought out that we both at
some point in our lives had like people
579
00:39:50.889 --> 00:39:52.840
with reptiles come to the house and
show off or snakes and everything. What's
580
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:57.119
it called? A reptilology sort of
what does it called you on to that
581
00:39:57.280 --> 00:40:01.679
track on all trcologists. That's wrong, for specifically reptiles. They think that
582
00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:06.239
it comes over with snakes and like, well, herpetologist would be someone who
583
00:40:06.280 --> 00:40:10.710
is a herd all. Sounds like
my grandfather's sounds like herpes. That's cool.
584
00:40:12.349 --> 00:40:15.349
Yeah, it's seriously. Yeah,
just s still has a couple snakes.
585
00:40:15.510 --> 00:40:21.030
Is He have connect the guy that
I brought in to got arden bringing
586
00:40:21.110 --> 00:40:23.659
in the snake? Yeah, Oh, you are the cool it's awesome.
587
00:40:24.699 --> 00:40:29.219
So okay, but that was appealing. Sure, like we're saying David.
588
00:40:29.300 --> 00:40:31.260
David's question was it's want to do
that. They just want to say no,
589
00:40:31.500 --> 00:40:35.099
mom, I just want pizza.
The friends way to play for you,
590
00:40:35.179 --> 00:40:37.250
way to a seven year old today, and so look for your birthday.
591
00:40:37.250 --> 00:40:38.809
We're going to bring you a guy
with snakes. We're going to chunky
592
00:40:38.889 --> 00:40:44.170
cheese. The kid says no to
chuck e cheese. Yeah, I make
593
00:40:44.289 --> 00:40:47.489
I guess. I see like they're
more. That's less surprising that I would
594
00:40:47.530 --> 00:40:52.519
say no to such a thing,
because now they have ipads. I'm telling
595
00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:55.119
you that. I'm go up to
the seven year old and say, do
596
00:40:55.159 --> 00:40:58.519
you want to go to David?
must of shaggy cheese, laser tag,
597
00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:02.159
I don't care, and they'll be
like no, I mean right now.
598
00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:06.510
You know, I'm kind of changing
minds on both men. Two questions to
599
00:41:06.510 --> 00:41:08.550
Himry, now that he's here,
he really would want to do that.
600
00:41:08.949 --> 00:41:13.110
We should serve me some. We
should serve a seven year olds to that
601
00:41:13.269 --> 00:41:15.389
ass is almost over. It too
bad. Oh my God, that's a
602
00:41:15.469 --> 00:41:22.099
topic. Okay, June topic.
Okay, yeah, all right. So
603
00:41:22.300 --> 00:41:24.780
those are the four things we talked
about. I see. What would you
604
00:41:24.820 --> 00:41:30.820
like to talk about? Um,
yeah, okay, wow, so's be
605
00:41:30.900 --> 00:41:36.650
related to math, I guess.
Okay, so I'm Tian a couple of
606
00:41:36.690 --> 00:41:38.530
courses the semester. I'm not the
only one in the room because, yeah,
607
00:41:38.809 --> 00:41:45.690
I'm seeing and I've been thinking about
can I has ta made you want
608
00:41:45.730 --> 00:41:47.639
to have kids, because I've decided
I'm never going to have chilber them really
609
00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:52.280
after tea. That's just too much
for me. That Jesus interesting. Yeah,
610
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:54.840
that's unrelated. I just I don't
think it's affected me in that.
611
00:41:55.159 --> 00:41:59.480
In that sense, I don't think
I can handle it. Interesting, not
612
00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:01.389
now anyway, although I guess that
makes sense as a twenty one year old
613
00:42:01.389 --> 00:42:07.590
senior in college. Okay, anyway. But Anyway, and like I'm going
614
00:42:07.670 --> 00:42:09.750
into grads for next year. I'm
going to be Dajing glasses and I've been
615
00:42:09.789 --> 00:42:14.110
thinking about what's my Petagaya? What's
my teaching philosophy? What do I want?
616
00:42:14.110 --> 00:42:17.659
How I want this to work?
And I was talking to well,
617
00:42:17.900 --> 00:42:22.659
I'll back up. Okay, Um, there's a class in the philosophy department
618
00:42:22.699 --> 00:42:29.099
here. I won't call it out, but it is. We in the
619
00:42:29.179 --> 00:42:34.610
math department sort of like to joke
that this class is covered in the first
620
00:42:34.650 --> 00:42:38.050
two weeks of a certain math course. Okay, to what's the classic you
621
00:42:38.090 --> 00:42:42.409
have to say the name of the
class. Okay. So, okay.
622
00:42:42.449 --> 00:42:45.960
So the plastic course is logic and
philosophy. Small Horse. Yeah, and
623
00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:51.400
in our transition to advance maths course, we we do symbolic logic for like
624
00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:54.159
two weeks and it's a bit of
an exaggeration that we cover all of the
625
00:42:54.199 --> 00:42:59.070
class and these two weeks. Right, it's pretty tire and close. It's
626
00:42:59.110 --> 00:43:05.190
not her that much of the exaggeration
and what like. Strikes me as odd
627
00:43:05.909 --> 00:43:12.469
is that it takes a semester to
teach this material and people still don't get
628
00:43:12.469 --> 00:43:16.980
it right. So I was talking
to a friend of mine who also wants
629
00:43:17.019 --> 00:43:20.820
to teach in the future. I
want to be a professor, so does
630
00:43:20.860 --> 00:43:24.539
he, and he asks me.
Okay, so to what level do you
631
00:43:24.659 --> 00:43:30.530
teach a class? Do you average
out the skill levels of the students?
632
00:43:30.530 --> 00:43:34.610
Do you teach about halfway? Do
you you know, where's the compromise?
633
00:43:34.650 --> 00:43:37.090
Do we compromise to those students that
are really lagging? Do we slow the
634
00:43:37.130 --> 00:43:40.559
class down and slow everybody else down
to keep them in the loop? Or
635
00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:45.360
do we eventually leave people behind,
which, as a teacher, I don't
636
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:46.920
like the idea of lead people behind. As a teacher, I don't like
637
00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:51.519
the idea of slowing down the material. But as student, like, but
638
00:43:51.639 --> 00:43:53.599
as a student who feels like they're
grasping the material, you don't want the
639
00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:58.269
pace of the class to be set
by yeah, yeah, I would feel
640
00:43:58.269 --> 00:44:02.550
terrible for those, you know,
top twenty five percent students that are bored
641
00:44:02.630 --> 00:44:06.429
out of their minds. I mean
that's how that's of America one though,
642
00:44:06.469 --> 00:44:08.630
right, like as imagine like the
dumbest person you could think of and then
643
00:44:08.750 --> 00:44:13.940
lower your expectations. I feel like
that's the like amount of thought we put
644
00:44:13.940 --> 00:44:19.059
into like caution signs, which betters
it. And have a whole year version
645
00:44:19.099 --> 00:44:21.940
of the course. Where do you
think people still going to get it?
646
00:44:22.659 --> 00:44:25.170
There's no time to take it for
a year. Interesting get Um. I
647
00:44:25.250 --> 00:44:29.570
mean so like honors it, like, yeah, like, like changing the
648
00:44:29.570 --> 00:44:31.130
requirements for certain students who actually want
them to be there and put in the
649
00:44:31.210 --> 00:44:35.889
work to as he gets because they
don't want to put in the work.
650
00:44:35.889 --> 00:44:39.079
Or do you think there's syler certain
mix? I so this. So this
651
00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:45.159
is the questions. Do I if
they if they don't want to put in
652
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:47.840
the work and I go at say
seventy five percent if I teach to the
653
00:44:49.400 --> 00:44:54.829
seventy five percentile students, sure m
then do people below that mark? Do
654
00:44:54.989 --> 00:44:58.710
they just drop off the face of
the earth because they can't keep up,
655
00:44:58.750 --> 00:45:00.829
or because I'm teaching harder than I
was before? Did they say, Oh,
656
00:45:00.869 --> 00:45:05.349
I need to put in the work
right? Is it a crap shoot?
657
00:45:05.389 --> 00:45:07.699
Like would i? You know what? I think it's interesting too,
658
00:45:07.739 --> 00:45:09.619
because you have I'm sure this happens
in philosophy, that you have some people
659
00:45:09.619 --> 00:45:13.900
out there because they're interested in that
course, but then some people there because
660
00:45:14.539 --> 00:45:17.820
it fit a time slot or there
filling a major requirement. It's like everyone's
661
00:45:17.820 --> 00:45:22.289
there for a different reason. So
I don't know what point I'm trying to
662
00:45:22.289 --> 00:45:28.449
make with this, but it's interesting
to consider. I also think he'd be
663
00:45:28.530 --> 00:45:35.010
interesting if you're an ED major.
Anyone listening? Yeah, I'd be curious
664
00:45:35.010 --> 00:45:37.079
to know. Yeah, be curious
to know what you've been taught or what
665
00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:38.639
you think, because I'm just I
just had this realization the other day that,
666
00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:45.440
like professors don't always know how to
teach. You you know that as
667
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:49.000
a student but like I just had
a realization that, like there's no education
668
00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:53.230
major requirement for becoming a professor.
It's just master's PhD right, but there
669
00:45:53.349 --> 00:45:55.989
is for a teacher. Yeah,
right, I know, and people are
670
00:45:57.030 --> 00:45:59.789
pissed about that. I can tell
you insight. You're curious. I know.
671
00:45:59.949 --> 00:46:05.099
Yeah, graduates and people about to
graduate who are madder than Hell because
672
00:46:05.099 --> 00:46:07.179
you can walk in as a professor, you get tenure and make bank,
673
00:46:07.340 --> 00:46:10.179
right, but not in the second
I don't think anyone's making bank as a
674
00:46:10.260 --> 00:46:15.900
professor. But I don't know,
hard ARD er whatever, like not making
675
00:46:15.940 --> 00:46:19.050
bank from changing. They're doing other
things. That's true. Daven what would
676
00:46:19.050 --> 00:46:22.809
you do? Would you? Would
you teach to the like middle student in
677
00:46:22.849 --> 00:46:28.570
the class, or would you teach
so that the man I don't know as
678
00:46:28.650 --> 00:46:34.039
being I identify as the middle,
lower tier student? It's definitely fast,
679
00:46:34.199 --> 00:46:37.880
definitely not best. I have fast. I can get the information, you
680
00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:39.320
know. Yeah, like I think, okay, P's or honors, Shit
681
00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:44.519
like that. It's not shit,
but yeah, but so I kind of
682
00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:49.230
have a spot for those kids,
but also I'm so sick of like,
683
00:46:50.070 --> 00:46:52.869
man, you don't makes me crazy. Mad Is that we're all doing.
684
00:46:52.949 --> 00:46:55.190
I s how many classes are you
guys taking besides teaing? Like you taking
685
00:46:55.230 --> 00:46:59.590
the jet classes? I'm teeing two
classes and doing guy, that's it.
686
00:46:59.710 --> 00:47:01.059
Yeah, fuck, yeah, doing
the same. Ill, so I am
687
00:47:01.099 --> 00:47:05.579
taking a class. Okay, I'm
junior here. Do you remember? Like,
688
00:47:05.980 --> 00:47:07.300
no, this year. Okay,
you're doing all this, but you're
689
00:47:07.300 --> 00:47:12.619
also doing I s, and we're
doing better job than freshman software. Yeah,
690
00:47:12.659 --> 00:47:14.420
who have less shit to do with. They're just like, yeah,
691
00:47:14.980 --> 00:47:17.210
the work ethic is just gone down. But I think also the difference between
692
00:47:17.210 --> 00:47:22.449
you and others like your I mean, correct me if I'm wrong. You
693
00:47:22.530 --> 00:47:27.409
spend a lot of time working on
the material and like making sure you understand
694
00:47:27.449 --> 00:47:30.119
and asking professors for help and like
blocking time out to do that. But
695
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:34.760
there are people, like I can
teaming two classes. There are certain people
696
00:47:34.760 --> 00:47:38.039
on each class that will remain nameless, but come in late, don't participating
697
00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:42.239
class. If they're get asked questions
that answers always I don't know, like
698
00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:46.469
clearly didn't do the reading. Like
there are people that don't get it because
699
00:47:46.469 --> 00:47:50.349
they don't want to maybe, or
there are other things going on that are
700
00:47:50.349 --> 00:47:53.869
preventing them from and I don't know
that it makes sense. To key heater,
701
00:47:54.070 --> 00:47:58.619
your entire class, to those to
that demographic yeah, I wouldn't on
702
00:47:58.739 --> 00:48:01.699
that. Yeah, yeah, so
I don't know. I would probably teach
703
00:48:02.699 --> 00:48:07.820
to the middle, maybe a little
higher than the middle, and just do
704
00:48:07.900 --> 00:48:10.380
it, because better to be harsh
than he's been boring. How do you
705
00:48:10.380 --> 00:48:15.170
engage the middle? Well, I
think that's that was the other thought I
706
00:48:15.210 --> 00:48:16.769
just had is that you have to
I mean you have to really check in,
707
00:48:17.210 --> 00:48:22.449
maybe not individually, maybe just collectively, but with everyone to see how
708
00:48:22.449 --> 00:48:24.849
they're feeling about because you can just
I mean stop in the class one day
709
00:48:24.849 --> 00:48:28.599
and say, like, how's everyone
doing? And if they're like we don't
710
00:48:28.599 --> 00:48:31.440
get any of this, then you
you know, oh right, like slow
711
00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:36.199
down, right. And I don't
think I've had a lot of professors that
712
00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:38.760
check in like that to see how
I like. I think once a professor
713
00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:44.510
picks a tempo they just stick with
it, but it'd be a kind of
714
00:48:44.550 --> 00:48:49.110
interesting off like Dr Attire or Professor
Bosster, Dr Bostor like stopped in the
715
00:48:49.150 --> 00:48:52.190
middle class. It was like does
everyone comprehend? Yeah, like do I
716
00:48:52.269 --> 00:48:55.260
need to go slower? I guess. There's also like you have to teach
717
00:48:55.340 --> 00:49:00.380
certain things before. Sure, certain
times. So I guess I'm like the
718
00:49:00.420 --> 00:49:02.860
Maths Department. Right, we have, you know, daily or near daily
719
00:49:02.940 --> 00:49:07.260
homework. That helps as a check
and helps to see right, went heart,
720
00:49:07.739 --> 00:49:09.449
people dropping off when they not understand
anything, and that helps the check.
721
00:49:09.489 --> 00:49:14.170
But when I was studying abroad and
Budapest, I had I had a
722
00:49:14.210 --> 00:49:19.690
professor who would after he would put
up something outrageous, some sort of outrages
723
00:49:19.730 --> 00:49:22.769
proof it was way insane. He
would he would do this thing where he
724
00:49:22.809 --> 00:49:27.320
would say, okay, now who
understood? Raise your hand, right,
725
00:49:27.800 --> 00:49:30.079
okay, who didn't it all?
Raise your hand. Okay, who about
726
00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:32.480
half? Yeah, like that,
gave it as every single yeah, proof
727
00:49:32.559 --> 00:49:37.519
it is good. Will you can
we pause for seconds? You can plug
728
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:42.389
David about the lights on the Chambridge? Yeah, let me remember it,
729
00:49:43.389 --> 00:49:45.150
the Change Ridge. Yes, this
is the same professor actually. Yeah,
730
00:49:45.150 --> 00:49:52.230
that's why I thought of it.
Yeah, so this professor, I took
731
00:49:52.269 --> 00:49:55.659
number three with him. He's a
he's aid interesting guy, to say the
732
00:49:55.699 --> 00:50:00.139
least. Very a while, very
excentric, really interested in education and the
733
00:50:00.179 --> 00:50:06.260
psychology of learning, the very neat, neat guy. But he has this
734
00:50:07.570 --> 00:50:13.170
story, has the sort of method
that he said that he you're waging a
735
00:50:13.250 --> 00:50:17.730
motivation as you can use it to
impress women. But you know, I
736
00:50:17.769 --> 00:50:22.000
think you can impress anybody. I
know you already lost. There's a story
737
00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:23.639
of this and you can use the
story to impress women. Are you can
738
00:50:23.719 --> 00:50:29.360
use this true. Okay, okay, that's okay, and the gist of
739
00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:32.760
it is right. So what you
do is you you go to the person
740
00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:36.710
you want to impress. You say, well, okay, there's a there's
741
00:50:36.710 --> 00:50:39.309
a big bridge and would have had
US probably sorry important that prison, because,
742
00:50:39.429 --> 00:50:43.869
okay, that's Discah, okay.
And you go up to the person
743
00:50:43.909 --> 00:50:46.269
you want to impress and you say, do you know how many lights are
744
00:50:46.349 --> 00:50:50.500
on the Chamberge? Of course they
don't they they have no idea. They
745
00:50:50.539 --> 00:50:52.820
say, I have no idea.
HMM. And you say, Oh,
746
00:50:52.860 --> 00:50:55.059
come on, come on, have
a guess, and that's say, okay,
747
00:50:57.139 --> 00:50:59.340
whatever, and they'll say a number. And no matter what they say,
748
00:51:00.219 --> 00:51:01.860
you say no, no, your
way off it's and then just say
749
00:51:01.860 --> 00:51:06.889
another random number. HMM. It's
like, you know, you're so smart.
750
00:51:06.969 --> 00:51:08.449
You know how he likes the right. Yeah, and so he was
751
00:51:08.489 --> 00:51:13.769
telling this to his kids one day. It's children, and they say okay,
752
00:51:13.849 --> 00:51:16.489
Dad, that's that's very funny,
because great, but how many?
753
00:51:16.889 --> 00:51:22.039
How many lights are actually on the
Chanbridge? And he says, well,
754
00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:24.079
I don't know. Why don't we? Why do we go check? And
755
00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:28.079
so they drive up and down Chambridge
until I count it, all the lights,
756
00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:30.840
and they figure it out. And
so do you know how many,
757
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:40.869
like chamber, they drove? They
drove up and down million times. How
758
00:51:40.909 --> 00:51:45.309
many times they drive until like account
all. So how many likes you think?
759
00:51:45.309 --> 00:51:53.420
You're chamber. Wait, how many
did did the person gets to one
760
00:51:53.500 --> 00:51:58.260
person guess. Is this a riddle? Oh, just how many lights do
761
00:51:58.300 --> 00:52:00.929
you think? Sixty nine? No, no, no, no way,
762
00:52:01.090 --> 00:52:07.369
more than five hundred and fifty.
I really hope everyone listening understand one.
763
00:52:07.489 --> 00:52:13.329
Just wait. Okay, okay,
I don't get it now. It's so
764
00:52:13.449 --> 00:52:22.360
excused. Those worst the card out. Wait, so it's one of my
765
00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:25.719
favorite jokes of all time. Is
this actually something that you can go to
766
00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:30.070
people and impress them, or is
that it's part of the joke? So
767
00:52:30.590 --> 00:52:36.469
she'll I explain it now. So
how you didn't actually drive his kids.
768
00:52:36.510 --> 00:52:38.389
Are Shit actually count them? And
so when I asked You, do you
769
00:52:38.469 --> 00:52:40.710
know how many there are? No, I don't know how many. Know
770
00:52:40.869 --> 00:52:45.460
have a gaps. No, you're
doing your Josi me. What the what
771
00:52:45.659 --> 00:52:52.940
the set up with beginning? where
I say to someone, you let me,
772
00:52:53.420 --> 00:52:57.380
because how do I get in that
conversation? You say, you say
773
00:52:57.460 --> 00:53:01.650
fuck, you have a guess.
Yeah, there's no. What, there's
774
00:53:01.690 --> 00:53:10.530
no good winn's no, yeah,
there's no. But see, so are
775
00:53:10.570 --> 00:53:13.800
you saying? But can I go
into like a bar and try this?
776
00:53:14.960 --> 00:53:17.719
What I mean, because it's good. It's a joke. This is not
777
00:53:17.760 --> 00:53:22.280
an actual thing you do to impress
people. Line's just the Sun Hotel.
778
00:53:22.800 --> 00:53:24.559
Can I can we just pause for
a moment? For those who know David
779
00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:29.710
at our friends so good to imagine
David leaving this room and trying to replicate
780
00:53:29.789 --> 00:53:38.030
this one. Morgan, Morgan,
speaker on bell'll laugh anyway. All right,
781
00:53:38.030 --> 00:53:42.940
yeah, don't think too much about
it. At least don't. Is
782
00:53:43.059 --> 00:53:46.420
a joke, because because I have
to guess anyway. Even you told me
783
00:53:46.500 --> 00:53:50.940
that it's just impossible to yes,
that's it. Yes, but I knew
784
00:53:51.019 --> 00:53:53.099
that. So do you tell it
then? What? You try to joke
785
00:53:53.179 --> 00:53:58.010
everything. You just told me what. Yes, then, how could you?
786
00:53:58.170 --> 00:54:00.690
But then, so I was about
to answer, be like book done.
787
00:54:00.809 --> 00:54:01.969
You just told me that it's impossible. What am I answered like that?
788
00:54:02.050 --> 00:54:10.000
That's it's still don't end up in
this kind of conversation. I'm trying
789
00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:15.119
to just okay, Google, it's
no, it's his joke. It's actually
790
00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:19.840
the professor's Ye, need to like, okay, all right, yeah,
791
00:54:20.679 --> 00:54:22.079
yeah, and he would, he
would. What he would do is he
792
00:54:22.119 --> 00:54:27.469
would, after this Chambridge joke,
he would name the Chambridge trick where we
793
00:54:27.550 --> 00:54:31.150
were doing math problems. We had
to do, like, if anybody into
794
00:54:31.190 --> 00:54:37.190
math is listening, big reductions module
of some crime. And you know what
795
00:54:37.389 --> 00:54:39.900
happens then is you have to figure
out, you know, basically, what
796
00:54:40.019 --> 00:54:45.300
number do you get out of this
situation? And it was really hard and
797
00:54:45.380 --> 00:54:46.380
he would do it very quickly and
say, Oh, it's seventh, clearly
798
00:54:46.420 --> 00:54:50.539
right. And how do you do
it? Was Chambridge trick. You just
799
00:54:50.619 --> 00:54:52.130
speak, please. You know what
you're talking about. Say with Cofiden,
800
00:54:52.170 --> 00:54:55.329
the same with confidence. It's right, nobody knows. I love that.
801
00:54:57.690 --> 00:55:07.050
All right, yeah, damn,
it is this before I say something else,
802
00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:07.920
is this? Do you have another
thing to talk about or no?
803
00:55:08.079 --> 00:55:12.840
That was it. That was I
so, I don't know. Back to
804
00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:17.280
the pedagogical yeah, questions at hand. I genuinely don't know what the answer
805
00:55:17.320 --> 00:55:20.960
I don't either. When I was
talking to to my friend, right,
806
00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:23.630
I said I would teach it the
seventy five percent time, like I would.
807
00:55:23.670 --> 00:55:29.389
I would go there because I don't
want to slow the people who I
808
00:55:29.630 --> 00:55:30.949
see is having the most potential,
like, I don't know, I don't
809
00:55:30.989 --> 00:55:34.750
care for that phrase. Right.
Yeah, I don't want to slow them
810
00:55:34.869 --> 00:55:39.860
down and it is my hope that
those people who weren't putting in the right
811
00:55:39.940 --> 00:55:43.179
amount of effort would then say,
Oh crap, I gotta put in the
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right amount of effort. Sure,
I mean I think they're also mitigating like
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if you have a tea or you
know the students better. Like I think
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they're mitigating circumstances there as to how
much you can do. Like if I'm
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in the Common Department here in classes, are twenty four students and it's a
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senior level, like a senior or
class, and I've known them all for
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three years. Like I think you
can kind of gage how people are doing,
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that's true, and like oneonone to
a little bit more effectively than if
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you're like at a six hundred percent
lecture hall at university, that a bro
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or northeastern. Yeah, that's that's
fair, and it very much depends on
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the class as well. Like,
you know, three hundred and eleven classes
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here. Yeah, you should be
teaching at seventy five plus or right where
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it should be the people that want
to be here, that are doing the
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work. But if it's right,
but if it's an intro class like ere
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logic or something, go down a
bit sure. Right. Yeah, I
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don't know where the cutoffs are.
I don't know where the lines I just
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I just imagine every student is David. Yeah, the percent time an I.
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nobody else. Yeah, no one
knows, as I just took it.
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You know, you, David is. This is not related to his
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intelligence or work ethic. David is
the biggest kiss ass I've ever met in
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my entire life. I'm so kiss
ass that don't there's no good way to
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end that. I don't know.
Yeah, I just think kiss as.
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I've complimented professor's clothing and class.
Like there is something like, what was
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it in not theory mediated ched intersexuality. My professor was like what's Fashi Si?
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Both clothing and I he's wearing green
sweater and I was like looking sweaters.
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Literally said why. He was like
okay, and he's like out of
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the classes, like, Oh my
God. Yeah, so the highest grade
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in this class become taking a visual
calm. Yeah, eighty nine percent was
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the highest test grade. What in
visual communication? If exam one man can
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imagine three hundred eleven class the highest
grade. It's just like theories all over
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again. Yeah, that's bad.
That's the other point. As a professor,
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I would have no problem giving the
highest grade as like an eighty five
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or something on a task. No
problem with it. And then you curve
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up and then you cry if a
s an a s a short. When
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in Buddadesh, seventy wasn't ay because, yeah, right, she was tugh.
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Wow, you know that. He
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US guys, D's people that as
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on vision. This visuals him.
He's notoriously like inconsistent with his testing,
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though. Yeah, this isn't take
to be clear, we're talking about Dr
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I'm at a time and he's gonna
be on a podcast. I mean funny,
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I'd like that he could, like
he totally would. Yeah, can
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you matter how you do media?
No, he has some interesting topics.
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He didn't be interesting but I have
to be very all my game. It
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wouldn't be like that podcast we did
with Sydney work. I had to add
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it out certain things. You should
be it was wild. Yeah, thanks,
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it was bad. It was really
bad. Certain guests just come in
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and I think, like everything becomes
a lot looser and more casual. You're
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more looser and you're losing. You
are last year. Yeah, it's racted
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again. You're a chillss, guess
because you just worked out. You're on
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that. Like that's a general well, it's like this. We've been we've
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been doing it for a walk.
Like before it was like we have to
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get everything right, and now it's
like we'll just added out whatever doesn't work.
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Yeah, you guys are chilled.
Yeah, you guys, we're good.
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Speaking of chill, it's time to
go chill out. That's a fantastic
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segue. Get Out. Yeah,
Dins, yes, how a lot of
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good good night, good evening,
good morning. Could have a great rest
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of your week. We'll see you
next time. We'll talk to you next
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time. Oh, yeah, we'll
talk to you next time on with naked
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David.
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This is a top to you know
what we use on stage. But it's
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very, very special because if you
can see, yeah, the numbers will
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go to eleven. Look right across
the board. Eleven or eleven, mostly
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eleven, and ams go up to
ten. Exactly. Does that mean?
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It's louder? Is that any louder? Well, it's one louder, isn't
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it? It's not ten. You
see, most most blows going to be
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playing at ten, your on ten
heel, all the way up, all
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the way up, yeah, the
way up your own ten on your guitar.
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Where can you go from there?
Well, I don't know where exactly.
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What we do is, if we
need that extra push over the cliff,
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you know, we do put it
up to an even exactly one laugh.
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Why don't you just make ten louder
and make ten be the top number
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and make that a little louder?
These gus eleven. Hello again, friend
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of friend, Dane new you.
I'm nick. I'm dead. You're with
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Nick and David. I don't know. I didn't know if we're going to
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say that together, if it was
just yeah, I said cool, same
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format as always. We hope you're
doing well out there. It's a crisp
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Friday night. It is. It
is a very crisp Friday night. And
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Yeah, yeah, all right,
to hosts. One gas two topics each.
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Yes, this time I have two
topics, David. David does have
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two topics. Yeah, do you
want to start? I'll storry. Yeah,
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they kind of blend, but we'll
see where it takes. Okay,
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but I want to talk about you
know, maybe we've talked about this last
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season, but subscription culture and how
I don't think we have. Okay,
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maybe I talk to you about somebody. I don't know. But obviously now
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we're in a day and age where
it's more popular for people to rent access
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to something rather than buy it out
right. Sure, so, thinking like
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music, you know what else,
and I've been like clothes, magazines,
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magazines like. Yeah, so it's
all. I'm you want to watch Hulu
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or some something that like, you
pay a monthly right rate and you get
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access to Disney plus or Hulu or
Netflix, but at the end of the
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day you don't own any of it, right. Sure. So you know
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that's true with Itunes, that when
you now you buy a song, you're
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buying like the license. You're not
buying a license for the song, like
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you don't own the song, you're
buying play time. But like if you
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bought music to Itunes, and I
don't know, I'd have to do more
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research. I don't think you actually
own anything in your items library, which
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is strange anyway, just a les's
interesting. Well, because, I mean
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you're not talking about like apple music, you talk about the itunes store.
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Oh, I don't know, because
you used to be like a song as
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a dollar or Usus now exactly twenty
nine. Yeah, but those songs,
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yeah, I don't think you actually
own them, right, because when I
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try to use them in videos,
I'm making whatever, like it has all
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these copyright protect like things programmed in
it that don't let you use it,
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sure, and you can't like transfer
it to another device or something or like.
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Right. That's a good yeah,
anyway, fun thought interesting. Yeah,
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so I was telling you this before
start recording, but I had to
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rent a car for various reasons,
but it got me thinking about first of
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all, it was a big hassle
because I had to go drive all the
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way to Cleveland are for to get
a car. Drives an hour up to
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Cleveland, an hour to Cleveland to
get a car to just drive it an
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hour back. It's saved a ton
of money. It was much better than
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renting out of right the luster thing. But it got me thinking about car
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how we have a car industry I
think, has adapted yet to this subscriber
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culture. Okay, I don't know
if that's a good or bad thing,
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but what I'm thinking about is like, you know, you can buy a
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car or you can lease a car. Sure, and I want to know
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your thoughts on this, but in
my experience, and I'm a car person
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so I follow a lot of like
the outrageous car stuffs. Maybe I'm my
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view is off, but the people
who tend to lease cars a lot are
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people who are maybe retired or super
wealthy and they just want the newer car
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right every four years. Don't want
to yeah, sure it don't. So
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they don't want to deal with like
maintenance or anything. They just want to
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have the newest lay is and greatest
thing. And at the end of the
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day you don't own anything. So
you're putting all this money out but interrupt
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there's no return. Use money buying
a car, drive it off a lot.
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We all know that saying. But
you really lose. You have nothing
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that you own when you lease a
car, just like music services or whatever.
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And I know that there's like we
have a car shire thing at our
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college. That's like an affordable way
to run a car by the hour.
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M There's a yard of turrow.
Yeah, I'm like Ma even and other
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yeah, I am wondering what your
thoughts are if the car manufacturers themselves,
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not like third party companies, right, created some kind of third way to
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purchase a car or access to a
car, so you can either buy a
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car or lise a car, or
some subscription like rent a card, like
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monthly or like or something, because
I feel like for like, I don't
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know, like I my first cars
is going to be a used car.
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Yeah, I mean, I'm not
going to lease a car because I don't
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like that. That's just throwing right
to me. Like I'd rather put the
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extra money at cost to own the
car outright, sure, then to just
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lease a car. Right. What
are your thought are you similarized on?
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I'm on board with that perfect world. Like it's time to buy a car
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for whatever a reason right now.
Yeah, that's definitely where I'M gonna end
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up to. Yeah, and with
APPS and how like there's an APP for
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everything now, like I feel like
they these services like where people can lend
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out their cars. I feel like
it hasn't hit the nail on the head
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yet, sure, because it's not
super accessible. You still have to be
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over twenty five, right. There's
a lot and it could be expensive and
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it's not really meant for a month
or two the two months or that kind
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of thing. I think that's that's
the big thing for me because like,
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yeah, if I want to rent
a car to go to the store,
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I'll just hop on maven or to
row or something and I can pick out
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a car and use that car.
But if I have, like if I
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don't want to buy a car outright
or I can't afford to buy a car
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out right, but I have to
go to work every day, right,
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you're not going to run a car
every morning to do that because that would
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just be really expensive. But yeah, if they're if it was like you
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paid this much a month, like
a heating bill or something. Yeah,
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like a glorified like I mean like
renting a car, but kind of a
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subscription tears thing, because everything's you
know, and I don't want to have
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another subscription in my life. But
like, I just feel like the Gen
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z maybe millennial way of how the
old and the rich least all new Ferrari
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every year. Yeah, well,
if there was a way that we could,
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I feel like the manufactures could spin
around some way to make money off
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of that, right, because just
like renting a car, like if you
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crash the car, like it's their
happiest day ever because sure, they get
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the money out of the insurance.
Sure I can get the new car.
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Right. So I feel like there's
a way to do that and I'm just
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curious about like if you think that
in the future, like we're going to
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shift to a if how we buy
cars is going to change dramatically, because
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I feel like everything else in our
world has right, maybe except with even
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close, because Amazon, sure,
I mean I've bought some cloth, I
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thought, shoes and stuff from Amazon. I just like the car market has
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not been affected that much yet.
You're right, other than cars not being
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sold as much. Because, yeah, I don't know. I logistically I
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don't know how any of that would
work, but I think it definitely could.
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Like I like if Tesla offered a
service where you pay, like I
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don't even know what a fair price
would be, like a monthly rate where
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you basically have access to Tesla vehicles. Sure, would you do that?
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About prop I mean depending on the
price, but yeah, for some electric
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like Yep, you know, like
a like a service where you can drive
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your car to your house or apartment
and now back to the place every single
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day. Yeah, you know,
you know this is slightly tangential, but
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I think this would solve a lot
of problems for people who can't afford I'm
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thinking about there was this tweet recently
that I saw, which, you know,
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is always a good start to a
conversation, but it was basically the
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explaining that it was by someone who
just recently taking a lift ride or an
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Uber Ride. Basically the driver was
explaining to that person that there's this whole
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like unofficial lift subscription, like lease
service thing that's happening. So essentially there
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are people around the country, and
this one was in Virginia, but who
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will buy just like a shitload of
cars and then if you need to,
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if you need a car or you
need to drive, you need to make
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money or whatever, you lease the
cars from that man. Yeah, I've
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heard of that, to drive them, but then the money from your lift
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eyes goes to the owner of the
car. So you go, all the
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money you make goes back to that
guy and you have to basically drive enough
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to hit your lease to even break
even. So it's kind of like a
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landlord like tendant situation. But I
think that a lot of people that do
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things like that are people who can't
afford to buy a car outright and are
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looking for ways to have access to
a vehicle. Right. I just think
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that I've seen videos. I saw
a video at somebody who you know when
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you get those really rich people on
Youtube and they're like, I'm doing this
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for a day. It's doing something
that is a pain in the neck.
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Yeah, this guy like said in
instead of running from enterprise at the airport,
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I'm going to rent through a Turro
Esk service. Right. But it
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was from a guy who bought a
bunch of cars and I know that because
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he went. He went when he
got off a plane his he had to
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take a shuttle somewhere and then find
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the guide. He remotely activated it. Of course, this is a guy
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in his house, like this is
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it was paying the neck and like
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this power, to be a customer
of a service like this, I would
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want a company, right. I
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and that's why I think, like
if car companies did this, that's
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interesting. Could have I mean,
there's got to be away, because then,
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even after the car is no longer
deemed like good for the subscription program,
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like, they can sell it right, pretty of you know, I
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don't know. Yes, feel I
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Yeah, get on it. So
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real center here stinking about it.
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and here's the other thing I'm going
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Cleveland Hurts. Yeah, so I
have so it's pain the neck. Running
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a car hurts, but this is, yeah, hurts. Let me tell
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you why. At everybody WHO's under
twenty five, if you are a AAA
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member, HM, they wave all
of the underage crap. You could have
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just run to the UHAUL, because
I think that's eighteen. Yeah, but
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like, but any of a you
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drive. I'm not scared of driving, but a UHAUL. Yeah, that
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my said be true. Driving.
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moving, I don't know what I'm
doing. Yeah, you know what I
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saw. Speaking of you haul,
would you see? I saw something on
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Youtube. Do you know the term
about you haul and lesbian culture? I
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don't think so. This, the
other had learned, is literally a so
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what side of Youtube are you?
It was on recommend that was on my
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recommended apparently. What is it called? Shoot? And I know that this
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was a term coined by I don't
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don't know, but like a part
at least of the lesbian community. Okay,
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pop culture, but you haul lesbian
or a you haul couple or you
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haulow woman or something. Okay,
we basically it means like that. You
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get so attached so easily that the
next day you read it to you haul
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Andy Movement. How was like I
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it's like this like thing, because
when I saw the thumbnail, is this
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woman with a you haul like brochure
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video bouts of the comments. I
don't know how I stumble on this,
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but and a comments like, oh
my God, like I love that,
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like you all the stuff and I
was like what it's like? Yeah,
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that that sounds like I've had that
conversation with Maddie May. That definitely sounds
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like something she would she would enjoy
it was so far. How is sure
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she knows? Yeah, I thought
that was so like genius and it made
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me think I need to get more
on the terms of stuff. But anyway,
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yeah, yeah, cool, couple
things. They're all right, all
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right, I'm looking up on my
soapbox for a minute. Okay, as
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you know, and I'm sure a
lot of the people listening now, I
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am an avid soccer fan. HMM, I will watch basically whatever is on,
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but I am a huge follower of
the English premier league and it has
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been an absolutely crazy EPL sins season. So Liverpool is insanely dominant. They
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have, I think, not one
is single like. They've only they've only
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not won a single game all season
and it was in October and they tied.
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So they're undefeated. There are only
three points separating fourth place from seventh
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place, which is crazy at this
point in the season, especially because fourth
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place is a qualifying spot for a
European Cup, so big deal. And
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then Manchester City has just been banned
for two years from European competition because they
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violated financial fair play regulations, and
they're also about to get docked, I
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think, EPL points for it as
well, which is huge because they are
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reigning champions, so really big deal. I'm a Manchester United Fan. We've
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been struggling in recent years, basically
since Sir outs Ferguson retired. We've blown
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big transfers, we lost players,
we've cycled through managers pretty quickly, so
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we went from David Moyes to Louis
Van Colle to Jose Mourinho, who I
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still detest with every fiber of my
being. I think we're finally in a
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little more consistent place with our current
manager, which is old going our soul
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star who, for those who don't
know, is a Manchester United Legend already.
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He used to play for the team. He was a goal scorer in
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a a championship game that was really
important to we want to trouble while he
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was playing with us, so he's
already kind of a figurehead. But we've
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definitely been performing better as well.
We beat Chelsea this past week, but
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we're still kind of struggling, and
so I want to talk a little bit
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about why. I think that is
because, you know, the whole the
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whole point of Manchester United is that
it's one of the largest soccer clubs and
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sports teams in general in the world
and that is supposed to be too big
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to fail, and so I want
to just a little breakdown on why it
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is failing. So I think part
of that is injuries. Right, I
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don't know what's wrong with our training
system or our physios, but we have
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a ridiculous number of players get injured
every season, which really hamstrings the team
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because it means we have to draw
up we have to pull up like usually
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really good but also really inexperienced,
like nineteen year olds from our youth team.
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So that's a problem. I think
there's also a problem with Sir Alex
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Ferguson. When he retired. He
was incredible, but he kind of ruled
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the club with an iron fist.
It was a really outdated style of like
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managerial coaching. There are like like
to the extent that there are stories about
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him parading around the locker room with
a broad sword in his hand to like
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scare or intimidate players, like he
was a character. So I think that
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there's probably a lot to say there
and you could go into that more.
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But what I want to focus on, and I'll try to make this as
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succinct as possible, is that I
as both as a lifelong fan and as
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a stockholder, because I do own
five shares of Manchester United Stock. YEA,
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and incredibly frustrated and pissed at this
point at Manchester United Ownership. So
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Manchester United is owned by an American
family, which is already unusual. Already
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opt to have that start. It's
owned by the Glazer brothers, so three
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brothers. They leverage a buy out
fifteen years ago, so two thousand and
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five, for about seven hundred and
ninety million dollars. So spent a lot
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of money to gain like, I
think, a seventy five percent interest or
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control. They also, just if
you're curious, I don't know what this
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does about them, but they also
own the Tampa Bay buccaneers. So there's
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that and I think that they're they've
done a lot of things wrong since they
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took over. They're running the club
essentially like a this like a for profit
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corporate business instead of a sports team, which I think is causing a lot
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of problems. We've blown big money
on players that just didn't work out or
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who weren't worth it. Players like
Juan Maza, who were supposed to speak
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play up, who have the opposite
effect, or players like Marilyn F Laney,
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who are really good at a certain
thing but not greate all around.
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And then players that just haven't really
worked out. So like Paul pub a
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huge name. Probably remember him from
World Cup right mouth. I'll cow a
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couple other people who are really great
players but just haven't seemed to kind of
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Mesh with the club. With that, I think the glaziers haven't supported managers
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requests. So you know, when
Van Hall says, or has said in
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the past, we need to spend
money on big defenders, the the managers
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refused to kind of dish out that
money for those transfers. And then,
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more importantly, they're absent. Like
I could not, if you ask me,
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gun to my head to draw you
a photo of what either any one
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of the three brothers looked like.
I don't think I could. I have
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absolutely no idea what they do day
to day. They're the chief executive,
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ed wood, word is kind of
their representatives that he runs everything. But
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so that's a real problem. And
so I just want to I think,
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just to just to hammer this point
in, I'm going to share a couple
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statistics. The first is that before
the glaziers took over in Manchester, before
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the glaziers took over in two thousand
and five, Manchester United as a club
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has had not been in debt since
one thousand nine hundred and thirty one.
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So I'll not quite a century,
but damn close. Yeah, at this
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point in time. Last time I've
looked, do you want to guess how
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much that we're in right now?
M They bought the team for how seven
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hundred and ninety? Bought the team
for seven ninety dollars and I have the
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debt and pounds. So little different, but close enough. I don't know,
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thirty million. Manchester United is at
this moment in time four hundred and
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ninety six million in pounds in debt. We it's obscene. Because why?
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They're losing? Because of sponsor because, yeah, we're performed. I mean
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we are. Sponsors are strangely good. Like we got this partnership with Chevy.
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We have tryed to Chevy Logos on
our jerseys now, like the sponsors
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are okay. I just think that
it's been really dead financial management in buying
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players, choosing where spend our money
right, investing in different kind of clubs
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and virch and things. They've also
been listed on the New York Stock Exchange
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since I forget what year that was, but I was in high school.
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So she's any six years ago seem
could be put on the wow, I
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didn't either, but I yeah,
I definitely have shares now. But so
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we're like about five hundred million pounds
in debt at this point. We have
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paid, and I don't know what
the timeline for this is, but probably
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the last I did. If I
had to guess, I'd probably the last
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ten years. We have paid over
seven hundred sixty five million pounds in interest
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on that dead for players and for
other different things. The glazers have had
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to refinance multiple times. I kind
of split that up and manage it.
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Two Thousand and ten, I think, was the last time they did it.
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And so at the end of the
day, I this isn't you.
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This conversation is as interactive as my
topics usually hard like I'm not really asking,
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yeah, you as much, but
I just think that like they got,
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they need to go and I don't
know if that's just there are a
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few Americans that own premier league teams. I don't know if it's just that
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Americans shouldn't be involved in soccer at
this point in time. I don't know
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if it's like the glazers themselves are
really bad. I mean clearly Americ.
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I mean Liverpool is owned by the
like Fenway Sports Group. MM, so
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they're fine. I just that I
am. There's this huge glazers out movement
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and I think I'm finally on board. I just think it's ridiculous. You
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know this has been happening with the
New York Knicks. No, I s
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well feel last by six seven years, has a really fans of chanted to
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the owner when the owner goes to
games sell the team and the owner actually
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got the fan who the start of
the Chan ejected and banned from all mixed
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games. I mean I would love
to see that at a united game.
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As a big Lazers don't fucking go
to the United Games. I like,
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that's crazy. I think that.
Yeah, maybe you cheated like a I
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mean how do you have all this
buddy business whatever and then you started writing
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the team like a business and it
I just don't and I knew you'd like.
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I know you're not as in the
soccer as I am, but you're
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a sports guy, so I knew
you. This rehearing a lot. Yeah,
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this is a trend in America,
like in NBA everything. I mean
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I MBA is happening Formula One,
because I was inter nationals l like.
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I don't know that this is happening
in SOT, like in European South American
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when sock this soccer besides match.
I mean I'm sure it's happening other places,
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but I don't know if it's happening
to this scale. A lot of
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teams are also, this is kind
of unrelated, but are being brought out
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of by Sawty, like billionaires.
MMM, and there's a really strong movement
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also, like the I think Manchester
United fans want the lasers out that.
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They're also very against having like sawty
owners. Yeah, yeah, exactly,
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well, because I know, I
mean they're in debt, so I don't
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know about that. But like they
mean, the Knicks, for instance,
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are making money, right, a
lot of money, but they suck.
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Yeah, so the owner's fine,
but obviously the New York New Yorkers are
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like, well, the hell right, but in Man City case. Geez,
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that's there's also a fun this is
against slightly tangential, but there's a
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fun story somewhere online. Probably find
it about the Chicago cubs, HMM,
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and how they were just so bad
for so long, but no one did
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anything about it because their fans were
so it was such a loyal base that
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everyone was still coming to games and
buying swag and food. So, like,
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no one know, there was no
incentive to change. Yeah, from
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a like a pure financial standpoint.
So I don't know, there's a whole
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host of things going wrong, but
I think that Avrom, Malcolm, whatever
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the third brother's name is, they
gotta go. They need to leave immediately.
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So, yeah, wanted to talk
about that cheese. All right.
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Yeah, so, so you have
another topic that kind of blends with your
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first one, kind of. Yeah, so we see, sort of I'm
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thinking about another topic. Okay,
I was gonna say originally because I think
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I kind of addressed both topics,
but either way either. Yeah, so
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I want to talk about I saw
on instagram be even like chucky cheese,
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not not in all long in time, but yes, you see, yeah,
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seventeen years ago. Yeah, yeah, so I am wondering if these
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arcades, you know how everyone's like
our kids are like breeding kids to learn
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how to gamble. Yeah, they're, they become you know. So I'm
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wondering if kids I feel like I
feel like the arcade is not as big
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as it was right. Heck,
when we were little, I think our
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parents were even like, oh,
it's not like how it used to be.
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Yeah, because back for sure,
you know why, that we liked
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going. I mean I thought it
was cool that you could earn tickets and
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get prizes, right, even though
like value to you know, obviously.
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But now with like you have earlier, with boot boxes and stuff, I
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feel like that's replacing, okay,
the arcade space, and I'm wondering,
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like kids, like I wonder,
like if I was seven this year,
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right, what would I do?
Like what would be a birthday party?
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I'd be cool to go to,
or like something like a special a case
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as kind of thing. Okay,
that's not going to the movies or like
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going to some cool like restaurant or
like right, the arcade, because I
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feel like that's I mean, I
think David Busters is having a moment too,
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like that's don't look big Ark.
Thank the fuss they forgot about.
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How are they doing? I've one
just opened up in downtown silver spraying there
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were. I live in Maryland,
so they're clearly not that downsize. Words.
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I have no idea, because you
got kids playing games, but then
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you also have out like adults.
They're going like a bar in this.
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Yeah, yeah, that's tasting.
About David Busters is that I went with
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my brother like my freshman years of
college. I came home right we were
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like my parents were out that night
and so I we were likes do something.
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I was like, screwl it's going
to even busters, because I have
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been whatever. Yeah, and you
know the game that you stack the blocks,
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called stackers. Yes, you like
thinging and like it's always rigged at
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the top. They don't right even. Yeah. Well, I one.
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They have that xbox on the machine, the playstation, the WII and the
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all this stuff. I was like
exciting. So I was like I'm gonna
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sell this shit, like I don't
yeah, yeah, but you know what?
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The guy came over. It said, Oh, congratulations, you want
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and I was like yeah, I'm
trying to select the prize because I watched
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tons of youtube videos. Right,
happen? Some people win this machine.
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The Guy said, oh no,
this isn't actually what you win. This
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is showing what you can when,
instead, you get a bunch of tickets.
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Of course I got like two thousand. Take its butt. The SBOX
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was like two hundred Tho tickets,
right, is the biggest BS. You
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can go back and win that exact
game every day. Yeah, yeah,
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so I'm wondering just like what,
like, what's Trent like? What's trend?
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Did you know anything? That's am
I am. I in touch with
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the seven year old commuter listeners,
in touch fourteen, twelve, I don't
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know, like I honestly feel like
kids, just like like, I mean,
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I cann't know what there is to
do. I'll give you. I'll
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give you the first thing to it's
the same thing that pop into my head,
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which is laser tag and paintball.
Okay, I feel like those are
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always safe, or like gocarning,
although I feel like fewer people do that
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now then do a lot of people
paintball? I don't know. I think
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laser tag is probably more, let's
safer and also for younger, like you're
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not going to take your seven year
old to go shoot? Yeah, Pay
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Ball, got I mean most people
aren't, but you'll take you'll take them
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to a laser tag facility. Wow, but those are the only two things
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that I could think of off the
top of my head. But like that's
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not unless year old me with one. I feel like our world's crushing like
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the good things from like everything's at
home now. I mean, do you
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remember your own birthday parties? Like
what did you because I, like Lou
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we, I had wanted chunky cheese. Yeah, that was like third grade
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stop at home. Yep, you
know Shit, like we gotta like a
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what is it called? It's not
a reptologist. Yeah, but with that
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the reptiles and animals makes yeah,
I had one of those two. I
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honestly just feel like like if I
I told that to even a seven year
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old or six year old, right, right, eight year old, like
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hey, like, we're gonna have
a guy cool or bring cool stakes,
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and so I honestly think they did. Yeah, whatever, and keep playing
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for it. Yeah, that's good. That's a crazy to be about.
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I can almost confidently say that.
I mean, my my family is very
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into and was very into like DIY
party theme. So like I had a
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renaissance fair themed party. That's at
one point and we had it was like
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raining, but my dad basically that
had the PINIATA and the backyard, but
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then would give us he had like
a it was like a broom handle that
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he was using as a like a
jousting lance or whatever it's called, and
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then he would pull us across or
push us across the yard in the wagon
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and we have to like jause at
the PINIATA. That's awesome. So,
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like that kind of thing is unique. And one year we did like a
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there was a our house was I
think our house is getting renovated during my
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birthday, so we pushed it October
but did like a Halloween haunted house theme
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thing and like did up our basement
and partitioned off walls and like. It
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was a really good time. But
I think those were very unique kind of
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like like I think you can get
creative with it and do really cool things,
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but I feel like that'sing go cartie
or doing the Korean thing. Like
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those both sound like I would love
doing this. Yeah, I honestly don't
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know if like yeah, I mean, I'll go this is you want to
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go paintballing. It's or laser tag. There's a place here we should totally
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go lazer taging. Is it really
a good carting thing? Yeah, the
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goodle crding place sucks, but the
lace law have a go. I never
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gone to the laser tag so okay, yeah, fuck it, list.
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Fuck it, list. That's interesting. What did you do in you seven
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years old? Yeah, tell US
tells about swear is different this. Send
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US photos from your seven year old
birthday party. Literally, yeah, that
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was just as thought. That's great. I like that. I honestly think
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that I don't know what I'm gonna
like. I don't know if I'm falling
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out of touch or I just growing
up and think that what kids are do
435
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is lame. I just think it's
said that like right, we would use
436
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your birthday. I don't care,
just bringing pizza the play for tonight,
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like we do every other day.
Like that's strange. I mean, and
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I I worked on tech for this
person's house and these this. That's literally
439
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something that I listened watching place and
I was like, whoa yeah, kid
440
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doesn't even want you know. Yeah, I also I'm like, I'm not
441
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a huge birthday person anymore and I
can't pinpoint that change, but like now
442
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I don't want to do anything for
my birthday. So I'm having I'm struggling,
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I think, just generally. Yeah, and I feel that I did
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too, like I got lucky this
last year. My my birthday was on
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the same day as three different international
soccer finals, so I got to watch
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the women's World Cup final party.
I know, literally, I was.
447
00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:37.549
I just and it was by twenty
one too, so I was a literally
448
00:30:37.589 --> 00:30:40.869
just spent the entire day at bars
watching soccer, which is like ideal,
449
00:30:40.950 --> 00:30:44.509
right, but like, I wouldn't
have planned anything, but just a day
450
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offers like do what you want to
do. Yeah, like now, yeah,
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HMM, yeah, all right.
Well, I almost just don't want
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to go to my next topic because
I it's going to be. It's a
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very different vibe. This is a
sad but it's not sad a little bit.
454
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Man. It's about mental health.
Okay, I would like to talk
455
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about something that I've been thinking about
a lot lately and I've had conversations with
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a few different people about this,
and that is the relationship between depression or
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00:31:15.450 --> 00:31:21.880
mental health and exercise. You're an
in shape person. You work out.
458
00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:25.640
Yeah, you're definitely more in shape
that a lot of us. Okay,
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00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:29.759
I think idea I attributing to my
metabolism. Okay, I was good,
460
00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:32.359
but but do you think? Do
you feel like working out helps you kind
461
00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:34.150
of manage your mood? Yeah,
yeah, Yep, Yep, a hundred
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percent. Okay, I know that
because when I was home, we're like
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winter break or even summer, sometimes
I do really like lonely and board or
464
00:31:41.670 --> 00:31:45.950
whatever I go from around. I
be fine, right, I'm stressed here
465
00:31:45.990 --> 00:31:48.579
and go running, sure, and
it's just better. Yeah, so I
466
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a hundred percent feel that that.
I think working out most of the time
467
00:31:51.980 --> 00:31:56.220
does help me manage my mood.
I'm gonna I'm just going to say I
468
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work with I work on myself a
lot concerning mental mental health and mental illness,
469
00:32:02.809 --> 00:32:06.250
but also just this is like what
I'm going to say now is based
470
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on my own experience and things I
read and study the scene. I think
471
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that the yes, exercise is wonderful
and it's useful and it releases endorphins and
472
00:32:15.410 --> 00:32:17.400
it gives you a reset on your
mental health as could be physically, like
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all of that good stuff, not
just for people struggling with mental health but
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with anyone. Yeah, I think
there's a problem that starts when people talk
475
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about exercise like it's a cure all
or an answer to mental health. Yeah,
476
00:32:32.430 --> 00:32:36.269
kind of the same vein as like
you don't need a vaccine for that.
477
00:32:36.309 --> 00:32:38.269
They're try these all natural remedies.
It's like like that same kind of
478
00:32:38.390 --> 00:32:44.420
like you don't need medication for this, like just work out because and like
479
00:32:44.740 --> 00:32:46.460
clearly, exercise is not going to
cure depression on its own. If it
480
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did, we would have figured that
out a long time ago. And I
481
00:32:52.299 --> 00:32:55.299
would venture to say that if you're
anxious and you're feeling really anxious and you
482
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go for a run and then you
come back and you're totally reset and you
483
00:32:58.930 --> 00:33:02.569
magically feel better, you're not suffering
from anxiety disorder and necessarily you just have
484
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the symptoms. And I don't think
you can complete sense. Like everyone feels
485
00:33:08.170 --> 00:33:13.279
anxious at some point. I don't
think you can conflate that with a chronic,
486
00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:19.599
diagnosable disease. I think that's what's
dangerous. So, like, I
487
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:22.079
mean most of the time, yes, when I work out, I feel
488
00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:25.319
much better, but sometimes I don't. Sometimes it's just it's just whatever,
489
00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:29.509
like I leave feeling the exact same
way I felt when I started. Yeah,
490
00:33:30.950 --> 00:33:34.990
but I think more importantly than that
is that sometimes working out or exercising
491
00:33:35.069 --> 00:33:38.269
just isn't within reach because like a
huge symptom of depression and mental illness is
492
00:33:39.029 --> 00:33:44.259
lethargy or an inability to do things
like clean your room or shower, open
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00:33:44.259 --> 00:33:47.980
a curtain or like do very basic
things like that, and I think asking
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people already struggling to kind of transcend
those symptoms and do something that's just so
495
00:33:53.299 --> 00:33:59.369
beyond reach is is really patronizing,
and so I always get a little testy.
496
00:33:59.410 --> 00:34:00.690
I mean I get very I could
defensive very easily, but when I
497
00:34:01.250 --> 00:34:05.890
talked about how I'm not doing well
mentally and people's first instinct is to ask
498
00:34:05.970 --> 00:34:08.809
me if I'm working out or like
living a healthy life, I think that
499
00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:15.360
is something that I immediately kind of
push back on. And then you also,
500
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like working like the gym can also
trigger in itself like anxiety or guilt
501
00:34:20.599 --> 00:34:23.909
or other symptoms. I think I
just think in general exercise isn't a good
502
00:34:24.070 --> 00:34:29.389
mental health management strategy unless you already
have a good relationship with it before that
503
00:34:30.670 --> 00:34:32.269
right, but I think if you
if you've never worked out and you just
504
00:34:32.349 --> 00:34:36.550
start working out because someone tells you
to, because you're struggling through mental health,
505
00:34:36.789 --> 00:34:37.739
you're going to end up relying on
it or it's going to put you
506
00:34:37.739 --> 00:34:40.739
in a toxic cycle or you're going
to feel guild when you don't work like
507
00:34:40.739 --> 00:34:45.340
I think that there's a whole host
of problems that come with that. So
508
00:34:45.460 --> 00:34:47.420
that's a pretty quick thing, but
I just wanted to say like, yes,
509
00:34:47.579 --> 00:34:51.699
of course everyone should work out if
they can. Everyone benefits from exercise.
510
00:34:52.340 --> 00:34:53.769
It doesn't make it a cure for
anything, and I think we stop
511
00:34:53.929 --> 00:35:00.809
framing it like it is. Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. I think.
512
00:35:01.889 --> 00:35:05.809
Yeah, because I have, because
I ideal with some shit too,
513
00:35:06.250 --> 00:35:08.840
and I think that. Yeah,
I mean I already had a good relationship
514
00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:14.280
with it, is working out before. But for me and maybe a lot
515
00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:21.710
of people, if I run,
I subsequently eat healthy and sleep well right,
516
00:35:21.829 --> 00:35:23.829
which doesn't hurt anything, but I
think of it like that, like
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I feel better about myself physically mentally
because I'm eating healthy right, sleeping but
518
00:35:31.150 --> 00:35:34.150
and that makes you really good.
That's like, yeah, I don't know's
519
00:35:34.190 --> 00:35:36.780
like a catalyst. Yeah, like
it is direct. Yeah, that makes
520
00:35:36.820 --> 00:35:38.659
you feel great, whatever, but
there's sometimes right run or something. It
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00:35:38.820 --> 00:35:43.219
doesn't write anything. I think it's
really powerful to help people kind of get
522
00:35:43.219 --> 00:35:45.179
off their feet and start moving.
Yeah, but I don't think it's like
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you can't you can't say, Oh, I worked out for an hour to
524
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day, I don't have to go
to therapy. Like that's not that's not
525
00:35:51.170 --> 00:35:53.849
a good move. Yeah, are
you seeing that? People saying that in
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00:35:53.929 --> 00:35:57.050
like news media, like, Dude, how did you come on? I've
527
00:35:57.050 --> 00:36:00.250
been seeing on social media a little
and I also just you know, personally,
528
00:36:00.369 --> 00:36:02.769
like my family's very supportive. I
love my family, but a lot
529
00:36:02.809 --> 00:36:07.559
of the times their response to like, I'm having a rough moment right now
530
00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:09.960
is like come to the gym with
me and like yes, that's good and
531
00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:14.159
it helps, but it doesn't always
help. And then I also had a
532
00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:17.519
conversation with one of my friends,
one of our friends, about it recently
533
00:36:19.469 --> 00:36:22.989
and started thinking about a little more. There's so, yeah, cool,
534
00:36:23.670 --> 00:36:27.110
good, all right, we're going
to take our first and only break of
535
00:36:27.190 --> 00:36:31.150
the show and then, yeah,
and then we'll bring our guests in hot
536
00:36:31.230 --> 00:36:35.820
tip or there's a guy that I
don't know. You met him before.
537
00:36:36.340 --> 00:36:55.730
So we'll take a break and then
I'll come back and recroduce them. We're
538
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back. We are here with the
cardinality king himself, the infamous guests that
539
00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:06.840
we always talked about. Where you
are second guests or sour four? It
540
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:08.800
was early. It was like trust
to Ian Henry. Where the first?
541
00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:14.440
Yeah, something, I think that's
that's before I really liked knew you and
542
00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:17.909
like you were. Like we weren't
even based by you had we weren't even
543
00:37:17.949 --> 00:37:22.789
think didn't even have a facebook.
Yeah, Alyssa was definitely one of the
544
00:37:22.869 --> 00:37:28.150
earlier ones too. Yeah, but
yeah, there's nothing's changed. What we're
545
00:37:28.190 --> 00:37:31.539
doing the same thing we've been doing
for a year plus. I'll filiate on
546
00:37:31.579 --> 00:37:37.179
what we talked about. I got
up on my soapbox and basically told everyone
547
00:37:37.260 --> 00:37:42.099
that the glazers needs to sell match
US united because they're running the company club
548
00:37:42.219 --> 00:37:46.010
into the ground. And then I
talked about the relationship between mental health and
549
00:37:46.250 --> 00:37:51.650
exercise. And then we have two
questions for you, courtesy of David.
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00:37:51.730 --> 00:37:53.610
So the first one, yeah,
my first one, and the cardinality related,
551
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because I sure you know they're not
part of no, that's true.
552
00:37:59.960 --> 00:38:04.239
It was a topic we did this
one are my questions. If there was
553
00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:07.480
a monthly car rental service, so
I instead of buying or leasing, you
554
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:12.400
could rent it month by month,
but not like toxic, like hurts and
555
00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:17.110
prize rental car, like like Chrysler's
rents, like they have a subscription service,
556
00:38:17.269 --> 00:38:22.630
like spotify. Premium is like card
premium for Gen Z and millennial people
557
00:38:22.869 --> 00:38:25.949
that can't afford to buy a car
outright but also don't want to just lease
558
00:38:25.989 --> 00:38:32.099
a car. Throw all that money. It seems reasonable at first. Take
559
00:38:32.380 --> 00:38:37.059
right your parking have the wrong tree, because I don't like to drive anyway.
560
00:38:37.420 --> 00:38:43.730
So what I use it? No, but little car. I don't
561
00:38:43.809 --> 00:38:46.050
want a car. Do you think
you're not going to get now I realize
562
00:38:46.090 --> 00:38:49.769
that I'm gonna have to have a
car and I'm very disappointed by this.
563
00:38:50.170 --> 00:38:52.369
There let be sense. So he's
not the target demographic for your your market,
564
00:38:52.409 --> 00:38:54.570
David. Well, he wouldn't buy
a car. Yeah, and like
565
00:38:55.519 --> 00:38:59.239
because I'm going to need a car. I mean I need a usually,
566
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:00.920
so I'm just going to get a
car as opposed to rent one like monthly.
567
00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:06.960
You want to own it out right. Yeah, all right, okay.
568
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:09.150
Well, there's more interesting question.
What did you do for your Seventh
569
00:39:09.230 --> 00:39:14.750
Birthday Party? What was your favorite
childhood like? Yeah, did you got
570
00:39:14.750 --> 00:39:16.469
a chucky cheese or go, go
carding or go to the farm. I
571
00:39:16.510 --> 00:39:20.510
don't know what the hell. Go
to a farm. Shit, that's a
572
00:39:20.590 --> 00:39:22.989
thing actually, um, really,
yeah, gets go to farm sweets.
573
00:39:23.300 --> 00:39:31.019
Let's go to farms. Man,
I don't know what I do for birthday
574
00:39:31.059 --> 00:39:35.500
parties. When I was a kids, like, I guess, my mom
575
00:39:35.539 --> 00:39:37.849
would make up a bunch of different
food and we would have my family over
576
00:39:37.929 --> 00:39:43.849
and releat food that would that would
appeal to us. We sold damn.
577
00:39:43.889 --> 00:39:46.010
Yeah. So David's point was that, like chuck e cheese or like.
578
00:39:46.409 --> 00:39:50.849
We thought out that we both at
some point in our lives had like people
579
00:39:50.889 --> 00:39:52.840
with reptiles come to the house and
show off or snakes and everything. What's
580
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:57.119
it called? A reptilology sort of
what does it called you on to that
581
00:39:57.280 --> 00:40:01.679
track on all trcologists. That's wrong, for specifically reptiles. They think that
582
00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:06.239
it comes over with snakes and like, well, herpetologist would be someone who
583
00:40:06.280 --> 00:40:10.710
is a herd all. Sounds like
my grandfather's sounds like herpes. That's cool.
584
00:40:12.349 --> 00:40:15.349
Yeah, it's seriously. Yeah,
just s still has a couple snakes.
585
00:40:15.510 --> 00:40:21.030
Is He have connect the guy that
I brought in to got arden bringing
586
00:40:21.110 --> 00:40:23.659
in the snake? Yeah, Oh, you are the cool it's awesome.
587
00:40:24.699 --> 00:40:29.219
So okay, but that was appealing. Sure, like we're saying David.
588
00:40:29.300 --> 00:40:31.260
David's question was it's want to do
that. They just want to say no,
589
00:40:31.500 --> 00:40:35.099
mom, I just want pizza.
The friends way to play for you,
590
00:40:35.179 --> 00:40:37.250
way to a seven year old today, and so look for your birthday.
591
00:40:37.250 --> 00:40:38.809
We're going to bring you a guy
with snakes. We're going to chunky
592
00:40:38.889 --> 00:40:44.170
cheese. The kid says no to
chuck e cheese. Yeah, I make
593
00:40:44.289 --> 00:40:47.489
I guess. I see like they're
more. That's less surprising that I would
594
00:40:47.530 --> 00:40:52.519
say no to such a thing,
because now they have ipads. I'm telling
595
00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:55.119
you that. I'm go up to
the seven year old and say, do
596
00:40:55.159 --> 00:40:58.519
you want to go to David?
must of shaggy cheese, laser tag,
597
00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:02.159
I don't care, and they'll be
like no, I mean right now.
598
00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:06.510
You know, I'm kind of changing
minds on both men. Two questions to
599
00:41:06.510 --> 00:41:08.550
Himry, now that he's here,
he really would want to do that.
600
00:41:08.949 --> 00:41:13.110
We should serve me some. We
should serve a seven year olds to that
601
00:41:13.269 --> 00:41:15.389
ass is almost over. It too
bad. Oh my God, that's a
602
00:41:15.469 --> 00:41:22.099
topic. Okay, June topic.
Okay, yeah, all right. So
603
00:41:22.300 --> 00:41:24.780
those are the four things we talked
about. I see. What would you
604
00:41:24.820 --> 00:41:30.820
like to talk about? Um,
yeah, okay, wow, so's be
605
00:41:30.900 --> 00:41:36.650
related to math, I guess.
Okay, so I'm Tian a couple of
606
00:41:36.690 --> 00:41:38.530
courses the semester. I'm not the
only one in the room because, yeah,
607
00:41:38.809 --> 00:41:45.690
I'm seeing and I've been thinking about
can I has ta made you want
608
00:41:45.730 --> 00:41:47.639
to have kids, because I've decided
I'm never going to have chilber them really
609
00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:52.280
after tea. That's just too much
for me. That Jesus interesting. Yeah,
610
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:54.840
that's unrelated. I just I don't
think it's affected me in that.
611
00:41:55.159 --> 00:41:59.480
In that sense, I don't think
I can handle it. Interesting, not
612
00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:01.389
now anyway, although I guess that
makes sense as a twenty one year old
613
00:42:01.389 --> 00:42:07.590
senior in college. Okay, anyway. But Anyway, and like I'm going
614
00:42:07.670 --> 00:42:09.750
into grads for next year. I'm
going to be Dajing glasses and I've been
615
00:42:09.789 --> 00:42:14.110
thinking about what's my Petagaya? What's
my teaching philosophy? What do I want?
616
00:42:14.110 --> 00:42:17.659
How I want this to work?
And I was talking to well,
617
00:42:17.900 --> 00:42:22.659
I'll back up. Okay, Um, there's a class in the philosophy department
618
00:42:22.699 --> 00:42:29.099
here. I won't call it out, but it is. We in the
619
00:42:29.179 --> 00:42:34.610
math department sort of like to joke
that this class is covered in the first
620
00:42:34.650 --> 00:42:38.050
two weeks of a certain math course. Okay, to what's the classic you
621
00:42:38.090 --> 00:42:42.409
have to say the name of the
class. Okay. So, okay.
622
00:42:42.449 --> 00:42:45.960
So the plastic course is logic and
philosophy. Small Horse. Yeah, and
623
00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:51.400
in our transition to advance maths course, we we do symbolic logic for like
624
00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:54.159
two weeks and it's a bit of
an exaggeration that we cover all of the
625
00:42:54.199 --> 00:42:59.070
class and these two weeks. Right, it's pretty tire and close. It's
626
00:42:59.110 --> 00:43:05.190
not her that much of the exaggeration
and what like. Strikes me as odd
627
00:43:05.909 --> 00:43:12.469
is that it takes a semester to
teach this material and people still don't get
628
00:43:12.469 --> 00:43:16.980
it right. So I was talking
to a friend of mine who also wants
629
00:43:17.019 --> 00:43:20.820
to teach in the future. I
want to be a professor, so does
630
00:43:20.860 --> 00:43:24.539
he, and he asks me.
Okay, so to what level do you
631
00:43:24.659 --> 00:43:30.530
teach a class? Do you average
out the skill levels of the students?
632
00:43:30.530 --> 00:43:34.610
Do you teach about halfway? Do
you you know, where's the compromise?
633
00:43:34.650 --> 00:43:37.090
Do we compromise to those students that
are really lagging? Do we slow the
634
00:43:37.130 --> 00:43:40.559
class down and slow everybody else down
to keep them in the loop? Or
635
00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:45.360
do we eventually leave people behind,
which, as a teacher, I don't
636
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:46.920
like the idea of lead people behind. As a teacher, I don't like
637
00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:51.519
the idea of slowing down the material. But as student, like, but
638
00:43:51.639 --> 00:43:53.599
as a student who feels like they're
grasping the material, you don't want the
639
00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:58.269
pace of the class to be set
by yeah, yeah, I would feel
640
00:43:58.269 --> 00:44:02.550
terrible for those, you know,
top twenty five percent students that are bored
641
00:44:02.630 --> 00:44:06.429
out of their minds. I mean
that's how that's of America one though,
642
00:44:06.469 --> 00:44:08.630
right, like as imagine like the
dumbest person you could think of and then
643
00:44:08.750 --> 00:44:13.940
lower your expectations. I feel like
that's the like amount of thought we put
644
00:44:13.940 --> 00:44:19.059
into like caution signs, which betters
it. And have a whole year version
645
00:44:19.099 --> 00:44:21.940
of the course. Where do you
think people still going to get it?
646
00:44:22.659 --> 00:44:25.170
There's no time to take it for
a year. Interesting get Um. I
647
00:44:25.250 --> 00:44:29.570
mean so like honors it, like, yeah, like, like changing the
648
00:44:29.570 --> 00:44:31.130
requirements for certain students who actually want
them to be there and put in the
649
00:44:31.210 --> 00:44:35.889
work to as he gets because they
don't want to put in the work.
650
00:44:35.889 --> 00:44:39.079
Or do you think there's syler certain
mix? I so this. So this
651
00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:45.159
is the questions. Do I if
they if they don't want to put in
652
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:47.840
the work and I go at say
seventy five percent if I teach to the
653
00:44:49.400 --> 00:44:54.829
seventy five percentile students, sure m
then do people below that mark? Do
654
00:44:54.989 --> 00:44:58.710
they just drop off the face of
the earth because they can't keep up,
655
00:44:58.750 --> 00:45:00.829
or because I'm teaching harder than I
was before? Did they say, Oh,
656
00:45:00.869 --> 00:45:05.349
I need to put in the work
right? Is it a crap shoot?
657
00:45:05.389 --> 00:45:07.699
Like would i? You know what? I think it's interesting too,
658
00:45:07.739 --> 00:45:09.619
because you have I'm sure this happens
in philosophy, that you have some people
659
00:45:09.619 --> 00:45:13.900
out there because they're interested in that
course, but then some people there because
660
00:45:14.539 --> 00:45:17.820
it fit a time slot or there
filling a major requirement. It's like everyone's
661
00:45:17.820 --> 00:45:22.289
there for a different reason. So
I don't know what point I'm trying to
662
00:45:22.289 --> 00:45:28.449
make with this, but it's interesting
to consider. I also think he'd be
663
00:45:28.530 --> 00:45:35.010
interesting if you're an ED major.
Anyone listening? Yeah, I'd be curious
664
00:45:35.010 --> 00:45:37.079
to know. Yeah, be curious
to know what you've been taught or what
665
00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:38.639
you think, because I'm just I
just had this realization the other day that,
666
00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:45.440
like professors don't always know how to
teach. You you know that as
667
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:49.000
a student but like I just had
a realization that, like there's no education
668
00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:53.230
major requirement for becoming a professor.
It's just master's PhD right, but there
669
00:45:53.349 --> 00:45:55.989
is for a teacher. Yeah,
right, I know, and people are
670
00:45:57.030 --> 00:45:59.789
pissed about that. I can tell
you insight. You're curious. I know.
671
00:45:59.949 --> 00:46:05.099
Yeah, graduates and people about to
graduate who are madder than Hell because
672
00:46:05.099 --> 00:46:07.179
you can walk in as a professor, you get tenure and make bank,
673
00:46:07.340 --> 00:46:10.179
right, but not in the second
I don't think anyone's making bank as a
674
00:46:10.260 --> 00:46:15.900
professor. But I don't know,
hard ARD er whatever, like not making
675
00:46:15.940 --> 00:46:19.050
bank from changing. They're doing other
things. That's true. Daven what would
676
00:46:19.050 --> 00:46:22.809
you do? Would you? Would
you teach to the like middle student in
677
00:46:22.849 --> 00:46:28.570
the class, or would you teach
so that the man I don't know as
678
00:46:28.650 --> 00:46:34.039
being I identify as the middle,
lower tier student? It's definitely fast,
679
00:46:34.199 --> 00:46:37.880
definitely not best. I have fast. I can get the information, you
680
00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:39.320
know. Yeah, like I think, okay, P's or honors, Shit
681
00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:44.519
like that. It's not shit,
but yeah, but so I kind of
682
00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:49.230
have a spot for those kids,
but also I'm so sick of like,
683
00:46:50.070 --> 00:46:52.869
man, you don't makes me crazy. Mad Is that we're all doing.
684
00:46:52.949 --> 00:46:55.190
I s how many classes are you
guys taking besides teaing? Like you taking
685
00:46:55.230 --> 00:46:59.590
the jet classes? I'm teeing two
classes and doing guy, that's it.
686
00:46:59.710 --> 00:47:01.059
Yeah, fuck, yeah, doing
the same. Ill, so I am
687
00:47:01.099 --> 00:47:05.579
taking a class. Okay, I'm
junior here. Do you remember? Like,
688
00:47:05.980 --> 00:47:07.300
no, this year. Okay,
you're doing all this, but you're
689
00:47:07.300 --> 00:47:12.619
also doing I s, and we're
doing better job than freshman software. Yeah,
690
00:47:12.659 --> 00:47:14.420
who have less shit to do with. They're just like, yeah,
691
00:47:14.980 --> 00:47:17.210
the work ethic is just gone down. But I think also the difference between
692
00:47:17.210 --> 00:47:22.449
you and others like your I mean, correct me if I'm wrong. You
693
00:47:22.530 --> 00:47:27.409
spend a lot of time working on
the material and like making sure you understand
694
00:47:27.449 --> 00:47:30.119
and asking professors for help and like
blocking time out to do that. But
695
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:34.760
there are people, like I can
teaming two classes. There are certain people
696
00:47:34.760 --> 00:47:38.039
on each class that will remain nameless, but come in late, don't participating
697
00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:42.239
class. If they're get asked questions
that answers always I don't know, like
698
00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:46.469
clearly didn't do the reading. Like
there are people that don't get it because
699
00:47:46.469 --> 00:47:50.349
they don't want to maybe, or
there are other things going on that are
700
00:47:50.349 --> 00:47:53.869
preventing them from and I don't know
that it makes sense. To key heater,
701
00:47:54.070 --> 00:47:58.619
your entire class, to those to
that demographic yeah, I wouldn't on
702
00:47:58.739 --> 00:48:01.699
that. Yeah, yeah, so
I don't know. I would probably teach
703
00:48:02.699 --> 00:48:07.820
to the middle, maybe a little
higher than the middle, and just do
704
00:48:07.900 --> 00:48:10.380
it, because better to be harsh
than he's been boring. How do you
705
00:48:10.380 --> 00:48:15.170
engage the middle? Well, I
think that's that was the other thought I
706
00:48:15.210 --> 00:48:16.769
just had is that you have to
I mean you have to really check in,
707
00:48:17.210 --> 00:48:22.449
maybe not individually, maybe just collectively, but with everyone to see how
708
00:48:22.449 --> 00:48:24.849
they're feeling about because you can just
I mean stop in the class one day
709
00:48:24.849 --> 00:48:28.599
and say, like, how's everyone
doing? And if they're like we don't
710
00:48:28.599 --> 00:48:31.440
get any of this, then you
you know, oh right, like slow
711
00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:36.199
down, right. And I don't
think I've had a lot of professors that
712
00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:38.760
check in like that to see how
I like. I think once a professor
713
00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:44.510
picks a tempo they just stick with
it, but it'd be a kind of
714
00:48:44.550 --> 00:48:49.110
interesting off like Dr Attire or Professor
Bosster, Dr Bostor like stopped in the
715
00:48:49.150 --> 00:48:52.190
middle class. It was like does
everyone comprehend? Yeah, like do I
716
00:48:52.269 --> 00:48:55.260
need to go slower? I guess. There's also like you have to teach
717
00:48:55.340 --> 00:49:00.380
certain things before. Sure, certain
times. So I guess I'm like the
718
00:49:00.420 --> 00:49:02.860
Maths Department. Right, we have, you know, daily or near daily
719
00:49:02.940 --> 00:49:07.260
homework. That helps as a check
and helps to see right, went heart,
720
00:49:07.739 --> 00:49:09.449
people dropping off when they not understand
anything, and that helps the check.
721
00:49:09.489 --> 00:49:14.170
But when I was studying abroad and
Budapest, I had I had a
722
00:49:14.210 --> 00:49:19.690
professor who would after he would put
up something outrageous, some sort of outrages
723
00:49:19.730 --> 00:49:22.769
proof it was way insane. He
would he would do this thing where he
724
00:49:22.809 --> 00:49:27.320
would say, okay, now who
understood? Raise your hand, right,
725
00:49:27.800 --> 00:49:30.079
okay, who didn't it all?
Raise your hand. Okay, who about
726
00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:32.480
half? Yeah, like that,
gave it as every single yeah, proof
727
00:49:32.559 --> 00:49:37.519
it is good. Will you can
we pause for seconds? You can plug
728
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:42.389
David about the lights on the Chambridge? Yeah, let me remember it,
729
00:49:43.389 --> 00:49:45.150
the Change Ridge. Yes, this
is the same professor actually. Yeah,
730
00:49:45.150 --> 00:49:52.230
that's why I thought of it.
Yeah, so this professor, I took
731
00:49:52.269 --> 00:49:55.659
number three with him. He's a
he's aid interesting guy, to say the
732
00:49:55.699 --> 00:50:00.139
least. Very a while, very
excentric, really interested in education and the
733
00:50:00.179 --> 00:50:06.260
psychology of learning, the very neat, neat guy. But he has this
734
00:50:07.570 --> 00:50:13.170
story, has the sort of method
that he said that he you're waging a
735
00:50:13.250 --> 00:50:17.730
motivation as you can use it to
impress women. But you know, I
736
00:50:17.769 --> 00:50:22.000
think you can impress anybody. I
know you already lost. There's a story
737
00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:23.639
of this and you can use the
story to impress women. Are you can
738
00:50:23.719 --> 00:50:29.360
use this true. Okay, okay, that's okay, and the gist of
739
00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:32.760
it is right. So what you
do is you you go to the person
740
00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:36.710
you want to impress. You say, well, okay, there's a there's
741
00:50:36.710 --> 00:50:39.309
a big bridge and would have had
US probably sorry important that prison, because,
742
00:50:39.429 --> 00:50:43.869
okay, that's Discah, okay.
And you go up to the person
743
00:50:43.909 --> 00:50:46.269
you want to impress and you say, do you know how many lights are
744
00:50:46.349 --> 00:50:50.500
on the Chamberge? Of course they
don't they they have no idea. They
745
00:50:50.539 --> 00:50:52.820
say, I have no idea.
HMM. And you say, Oh,
746
00:50:52.860 --> 00:50:55.059
come on, come on, have
a guess, and that's say, okay,
747
00:50:57.139 --> 00:50:59.340
whatever, and they'll say a number. And no matter what they say,
748
00:51:00.219 --> 00:51:01.860
you say no, no, your
way off it's and then just say
749
00:51:01.860 --> 00:51:06.889
another random number. HMM. It's
like, you know, you're so smart.
750
00:51:06.969 --> 00:51:08.449
You know how he likes the right. Yeah, and so he was
751
00:51:08.489 --> 00:51:13.769
telling this to his kids one day. It's children, and they say okay,
752
00:51:13.849 --> 00:51:16.489
Dad, that's that's very funny,
because great, but how many?
753
00:51:16.889 --> 00:51:22.039
How many lights are actually on the
Chanbridge? And he says, well,
754
00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:24.079
I don't know. Why don't we? Why do we go check? And
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so they drive up and down Chambridge
until I count it, all the lights,
756
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and they figure it out. And
so do you know how many,
757
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like chamber, they drove? They
drove up and down million times. How
758
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many times they drive until like account
all. So how many likes you think?
759
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You're chamber. Wait, how many
did did the person gets to one
760
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person guess. Is this a riddle? Oh, just how many lights do
761
00:51:58.300 --> 00:52:00.929
you think? Sixty nine? No, no, no, no way,
762
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more than five hundred and fifty.
I really hope everyone listening understand one.
763
00:52:07.489 --> 00:52:13.329
Just wait. Okay, okay,
I don't get it now. It's so
764
00:52:13.449 --> 00:52:22.360
excused. Those worst the card out. Wait, so it's one of my
765
00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:25.719
favorite jokes of all time. Is
this actually something that you can go to
766
00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:30.070
people and impress them, or is
that it's part of the joke? So
767
00:52:30.590 --> 00:52:36.469
she'll I explain it now. So
how you didn't actually drive his kids.
768
00:52:36.510 --> 00:52:38.389
Are Shit actually count them? And
so when I asked You, do you
769
00:52:38.469 --> 00:52:40.710
know how many there are? No, I don't know how many. Know
770
00:52:40.869 --> 00:52:45.460
have a gaps. No, you're
doing your Josi me. What the what
771
00:52:45.659 --> 00:52:52.940
the set up with beginning? where
I say to someone, you let me,
772
00:52:53.420 --> 00:52:57.380
because how do I get in that
conversation? You say, you say
773
00:52:57.460 --> 00:53:01.650
fuck, you have a guess.
Yeah, there's no. What, there's
774
00:53:01.690 --> 00:53:10.530
no good winn's no, yeah,
there's no. But see, so are
775
00:53:10.570 --> 00:53:13.800
you saying? But can I go
into like a bar and try this?
776
00:53:14.960 --> 00:53:17.719
What I mean, because it's good. It's a joke. This is not
777
00:53:17.760 --> 00:53:22.280
an actual thing you do to impress
people. Line's just the Sun Hotel.
778
00:53:22.800 --> 00:53:24.559
Can I can we just pause for
a moment? For those who know David
779
00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:29.710
at our friends so good to imagine
David leaving this room and trying to replicate
780
00:53:29.789 --> 00:53:38.030
this one. Morgan, Morgan,
speaker on bell'll laugh anyway. All right,
781
00:53:38.030 --> 00:53:42.940
yeah, don't think too much about
it. At least don't. Is
782
00:53:43.059 --> 00:53:46.420
a joke, because because I have
to guess anyway. Even you told me
783
00:53:46.500 --> 00:53:50.940
that it's just impossible to yes,
that's it. Yes, but I knew
784
00:53:51.019 --> 00:53:53.099
that. So do you tell it
then? What? You try to joke
785
00:53:53.179 --> 00:53:58.010
everything. You just told me what. Yes, then, how could you?
786
00:53:58.170 --> 00:54:00.690
But then, so I was about
to answer, be like book done.
787
00:54:00.809 --> 00:54:01.969
You just told me that it's impossible. What am I answered like that?
788
00:54:02.050 --> 00:54:10.000
That's it's still don't end up in
this kind of conversation. I'm trying
789
00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:15.119
to just okay, Google, it's
no, it's his joke. It's actually
790
00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:19.840
the professor's Ye, need to like, okay, all right, yeah,
791
00:54:20.679 --> 00:54:22.079
yeah, and he would, he
would. What he would do is he
792
00:54:22.119 --> 00:54:27.469
would, after this Chambridge joke,
he would name the Chambridge trick where we
793
00:54:27.550 --> 00:54:31.150
were doing math problems. We had
to do, like, if anybody into
794
00:54:31.190 --> 00:54:37.190
math is listening, big reductions module
of some crime. And you know what
795
00:54:37.389 --> 00:54:39.900
happens then is you have to figure
out, you know, basically, what
796
00:54:40.019 --> 00:54:45.300
number do you get out of this
situation? And it was really hard and
797
00:54:45.380 --> 00:54:46.380
he would do it very quickly and
say, Oh, it's seventh, clearly
798
00:54:46.420 --> 00:54:50.539
right. And how do you do
it? Was Chambridge trick. You just
799
00:54:50.619 --> 00:54:52.130
speak, please. You know what
you're talking about. Say with Cofiden,
800
00:54:52.170 --> 00:54:55.329
the same with confidence. It's right, nobody knows. I love that.
801
00:54:57.690 --> 00:55:07.050
All right, yeah, damn,
it is this before I say something else,
802
00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:07.920
is this? Do you have another
thing to talk about or no?
803
00:55:08.079 --> 00:55:12.840
That was it. That was I
so, I don't know. Back to
804
00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:17.280
the pedagogical yeah, questions at hand. I genuinely don't know what the answer
805
00:55:17.320 --> 00:55:20.960
I don't either. When I was
talking to to my friend, right,
806
00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:23.630
I said I would teach it the
seventy five percent time, like I would.
807
00:55:23.670 --> 00:55:29.389
I would go there because I don't
want to slow the people who I
808
00:55:29.630 --> 00:55:30.949
see is having the most potential,
like, I don't know, I don't
809
00:55:30.989 --> 00:55:34.750
care for that phrase. Right.
Yeah, I don't want to slow them
810
00:55:34.869 --> 00:55:39.860
down and it is my hope that
those people who weren't putting in the right
811
00:55:39.940 --> 00:55:43.179
amount of effort would then say,
Oh crap, I gotta put in the
812
00:55:43.179 --> 00:55:45.579
right amount of effort. Sure,
I mean I think they're also mitigating like
813
00:55:45.619 --> 00:55:51.010
if you have a tea or you
know the students better. Like I think
814
00:55:51.010 --> 00:55:53.329
they're mitigating circumstances there as to how
much you can do. Like if I'm
815
00:55:53.329 --> 00:55:57.610
in the Common Department here in classes, are twenty four students and it's a
816
00:55:57.690 --> 00:56:00.329
senior level, like a senior or
class, and I've known them all for
817
00:56:00.409 --> 00:56:04.250
three years. Like I think you
can kind of gage how people are doing,
818
00:56:04.519 --> 00:56:07.239
that's true, and like oneonone to
a little bit more effectively than if
819
00:56:07.239 --> 00:56:10.639
you're like at a six hundred percent
lecture hall at university, that a bro
820
00:56:12.039 --> 00:56:15.920
or northeastern. Yeah, that's that's
fair, and it very much depends on
821
00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:20.030
the class as well. Like,
you know, three hundred and eleven classes
822
00:56:20.070 --> 00:56:22.230
here. Yeah, you should be
teaching at seventy five plus or right where
823
00:56:22.269 --> 00:56:24.550
it should be the people that want
to be here, that are doing the
824
00:56:24.630 --> 00:56:30.869
work. But if it's right,
but if it's an intro class like ere
825
00:56:30.949 --> 00:56:37.820
logic or something, go down a
bit sure. Right. Yeah, I
826
00:56:37.820 --> 00:56:38.900
don't know where the cutoffs are.
I don't know where the lines I just
827
00:56:39.019 --> 00:56:45.699
I just imagine every student is David. Yeah, the percent time an I.
828
00:56:46.019 --> 00:56:50.849
nobody else. Yeah, no one
knows, as I just took it.
829
00:56:51.210 --> 00:56:52.289
You know, you, David is. This is not related to his
830
00:56:52.570 --> 00:56:58.130
intelligence or work ethic. David is
the biggest kiss ass I've ever met in
831
00:56:58.250 --> 00:57:04.000
my entire life. I'm so kiss
ass that don't there's no good way to
832
00:57:04.039 --> 00:57:06.400
end that. I don't know.
Yeah, I just think kiss as.
833
00:57:06.639 --> 00:57:10.760
I've complimented professor's clothing and class.
Like there is something like, what was
834
00:57:10.840 --> 00:57:19.110
it in not theory mediated ched intersexuality. My professor was like what's Fashi Si?
835
00:57:19.190 --> 00:57:22.110
Both clothing and I he's wearing green
sweater and I was like looking sweaters.
836
00:57:22.150 --> 00:57:24.869
Literally said why. He was like
okay, and he's like out of
837
00:57:24.949 --> 00:57:31.219
the classes, like, Oh my
God. Yeah, so the highest grade
838
00:57:31.260 --> 00:57:35.980
in this class become taking a visual
calm. Yeah, eighty nine percent was
839
00:57:35.980 --> 00:57:40.659
the highest test grade. What in
visual communication? If exam one man can
840
00:57:40.780 --> 00:57:45.010
imagine three hundred eleven class the highest
grade. It's just like theories all over
841
00:57:45.050 --> 00:57:49.090
again. Yeah, that's bad.
That's the other point. As a professor,
842
00:57:49.170 --> 00:57:52.570
I would have no problem giving the
highest grade as like an eighty five
843
00:57:52.570 --> 00:57:54.969
or something on a task. No
problem with it. And then you curve
844
00:57:55.010 --> 00:57:59.480
up and then you cry if a
s an a s a short. When
845
00:57:59.559 --> 00:58:02.639
in Buddadesh, seventy wasn't ay because, yeah, right, she was tugh.
846
00:58:04.159 --> 00:58:07.760
Wow, you know that. He
isn't curve. Does Not a curve.
847
00:58:07.880 --> 00:58:12.320
No, no, like twelve of
US guys, D's people that as
848
00:58:13.150 --> 00:58:20.230
on vision. This visuals him.
He's notoriously like inconsistent with his testing,
849
00:58:20.309 --> 00:58:23.989
though. Yeah, this isn't take
to be clear, we're talking about Dr
850
00:58:24.150 --> 00:58:30.340
I'm at a time and he's gonna
be on a podcast. I mean funny,
851
00:58:30.539 --> 00:58:35.460
I'd like that he could, like
he totally would. Yeah, can
852
00:58:35.500 --> 00:58:37.699
you matter how you do media?
No, he has some interesting topics.
853
00:58:37.780 --> 00:58:43.329
He didn't be interesting but I have
to be very all my game. It
854
00:58:43.369 --> 00:58:45.610
wouldn't be like that podcast we did
with Sydney work. I had to add
855
00:58:45.610 --> 00:58:50.409
it out certain things. You should
be it was wild. Yeah, thanks,
856
00:58:50.650 --> 00:58:54.369
it was bad. It was really
bad. Certain guests just come in
857
00:58:54.610 --> 00:58:59.800
and I think, like everything becomes
a lot looser and more casual. You're
858
00:58:59.840 --> 00:59:06.159
more looser and you're losing. You
are last year. Yeah, it's racted
859
00:59:06.199 --> 00:59:07.880
again. You're a chillss, guess
because you just worked out. You're on
860
00:59:08.000 --> 00:59:10.869
that. Like that's a general well, it's like this. We've been we've
861
00:59:10.869 --> 00:59:14.389
been doing it for a walk.
Like before it was like we have to
862
00:59:14.429 --> 00:59:16.389
get everything right, and now it's
like we'll just added out whatever doesn't work.
863
00:59:16.429 --> 00:59:20.429
Yeah, you guys are chilled.
Yeah, you guys, we're good.
864
00:59:21.389 --> 00:59:24.739
Speaking of chill, it's time to
go chill out. That's a fantastic
865
00:59:24.900 --> 00:59:30.380
segue. Get Out. Yeah,
Dins, yes, how a lot of
866
00:59:30.460 --> 00:59:34.739
good good night, good evening,
good morning. Could have a great rest
867
00:59:34.780 --> 00:59:38.250
of your week. We'll see you
next time. We'll talk to you next
868
00:59:38.250 --> 00:59:42.530
time. Oh, yeah, we'll
talk to you next time on with naked
869
00:59:42.570 -->
David.