Mob Stories, Gambling in Sports & World Series of Poker! | JEFF NADU

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Hey, guys, Bill Krackerberger, John Orlando over here at the
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World Series of Poker studio. They set up for us.
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Big guest today, Uh, Jeff Nado on the show. Jeff
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has been around for decades, and uh, he just knows
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so much about so many things that I don't even know,
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especially about these sports betters scandal, this, that Mafia podcast
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that he's had. Yeah, I'm just hoping no one comes
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in here and tries to take us all out. But hey,
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what are you gonna do at That's part of the
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business you have to worry about. So John, here we go.
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We have we have Jeff, Jeff, how are you? What
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brings you in town?
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I'm gonna play some events. Okay, cool, I've been in
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Vegas in a while. You said you're not worry about
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somebody coming in here. If we were at the Burgata,
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we might have to worry a little bit more. Oh yeah,
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we're gonna make sure we're fronting the door. Oh yeah, yeah,
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out here, I think we'll be all right.
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Oh good, good that you've had me though, No problem,
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no problem. I've commented to you. I've never met you.
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We've talked over the internet before. We text back and forth.
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I had you on one of my vsin shows, but
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just over the over the video, I cannot believe how
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much weight you've lost. And I said, did you lose
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like eighty pounds? You said, no, how many?
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Wow? One hundred and fifty pounds?
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Yeah, how did you do it?
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Unbelievable?
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So in twenty twenty, I I was three hundred and
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forty eight pounds. Oh, and I'm not real tall, so
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it wasn't great. And uh, I actually got hired by
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Barstool Sports, you know, I worked there, sure, And I
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remember COVID came and Dave Port and I contacted me
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and said, we're done. We're going home for a while.
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The world's basically stopping. It was that week and I
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went home and I remember looking in the mirror and
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I said, you know what, I gotta finally do this.
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And I watched a Joe Rogan episode about intermittent fasting. Yeah,
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and I talked to myself, how could I do that?
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How could I not eat, you know, for hours on end,
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because I was eating really unbelievable, you wouldn't even believe it.
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And I just started, you know, twelve hours. Now I
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do twenty four hours every day I eat once a day.
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That's it. I cut out sugar. I don't sugar is
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the killer, right, Sugar was the one. I don't eat
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after eight pm, and I do cardio every day. But
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I quickly lost weight. I lost sixty pounds within two months.
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So by summer of twenty twenty, I was on the run.
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And then I started losing and I'm just you know what,
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kept going, and I've six years later, I'm still I'm
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still losing. Actually, it's great. It's been a good for you.
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It's been a good good thing for me. It's the
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extent of my life considerably. All my vitals are normal now,
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so yeah, it's been good.
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I have notes on my phone just so I'm looking
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down on my phone and just you know what you're doing.
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How did you start in a media space? How did
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you get into any media space?
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How did you get hired by portnoy over at barstool?
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So maybe two thousand and nine, twenty ten. I had
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no idea what I wanted to do. I was working
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for my father at the time. I didn't go to college,
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nothing like that. I was just a bum. I did nothing.
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I didn't I was all just betting. That was really it.
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And uh, my father came to you one day and saying,
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you know, there's heart an these thing YouTube I get
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just started around them. You should do a podcast you
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love sports, And I said I was going to listen
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to that. He said, well, see what happens. I went
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to radio Shack at the time. I bought a little mic.
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I mean, you wouldn't even believe it was you'd plug
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it in the earphone jack right. And I sat there
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every day and I did a show and I streamed
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it on Twitter on a little app called spreaker. Nobody
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nobody listened except me. I listened to it back, but
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it wasn't about people listening. It was just about understanding
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how to conversate myself. They're talking for a half one
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power straight.
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Yeah.
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And then eventually I started working doing some offshore sports
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betting stuff, and I just kept doing it. The way
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you grow doing content is doing it consistency. Whether you're
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building an Instagram, a TikTok, a Twitter, a podcast, you
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just got to keep doing it, and eventually you get
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your own show. Then they start paying you, and then
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you grow social media. And I get in social media
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at the beginning, you know, I was two thousand and nine,
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I opened a Twitter account. So yeah, it's uh, it's
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been a long road, but longstery short. It was just
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about advancing. I start a show, I get paid, grow
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the following, find a big media company, go from there.
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Okay, and Barstool I just kind of giant. I mean
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that was giant Barstool.
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Yeah, that came around like twenty eighteen. I had had
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some connections to people there, and you know, one of
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them said, I think you're pretty funny. You have a
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look to you. And I remember I went to New
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York and met with Dave Portnoy and he he just
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kind of took a liking to me. And I've been
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connected with them seven eight years now, off and.
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On, and you're still friends with everyone there and you
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still are you still? Are you working with them again
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or no?
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Yeah, So this fall I'm actually going to begin another
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show with them. It's actually a show with a guy
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I hate.
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Okay, really yeah, it's not the guy that came after
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you want something?
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Yeah, yeah, I seen someone.
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I seen a video of some guy like that. It
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was at the final It was real, but it looked
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real to me.
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No, it was very real. It was at the Foxwoods Casino.
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In fact, Like came out after him physically, just as
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Alan came in and Like sat down. They said to me,
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we want you to come in and do some picks.
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We were at the Foxwoods for a poker tournament. It
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was a barstool tournament. And I go up there and
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they said, come to this room. We want you to
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come in. He ain't gonna do nothing. He doesn't know
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you're coming though. Just it'll be okay, we have security here.
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I said, it's probably not going to be good. Like
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that wasn't right. So they sit me directly next to him,
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and he gets up out of a chair. What came
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after I just had a notice, said you know, hey,
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how are you? And he just that's what he said.
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And I jumped out in the chair and went after it.
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And this got real bid because he's this is the
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kind of low life this ship bag is waiting them.
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Well it gets to that, okay, okay, he has mentioned
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my deceased father, my sister. He is a awful person
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that he follows me, this guy, and he like it's
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it's just gotten really bad. But they want me to
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do a show. I'm still at the point where it's like,
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do I really look because I can't hit the guy
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because it's this is a different world than like the street,
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you know, Yeah, it's different. But it's been a long
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road there.
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Has him high, he's he works for Dave, he works
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for barstool, he's on the payroll.
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Yeah, he's just I get it though, Like they're probably
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thinking that dynamic is gonna make great team.
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Yeah, but at some point I have to have, you know,
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the respect and ethics that I have to say. Enough's enough. Sure,
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but he'll apologize. I'm never gonna do it again. I've
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never said nothing about his family nothing. I don't do that.
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But he said to him, I watched it. Yeah it
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was serious, but that's but that's not the first time
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he's done that. And we've been offered to fight in
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a ring multiple times and he says no every time.
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He is a fucking punk and he'll only do when
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he knows he's not gonna go too far. Oh my god,
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that's what he does. So I fought. I've already fought
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in that.
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Didn't you fight someone up the barstool?
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Jersey Jerry, Yeah, Jersey Jersey, Virginia. Oh, that's right. We
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made a lot of money him and I seventy thousand
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pay per view buys. Wow, that's in West Virginia. Yeah,
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it was in a ton it was in an arena.
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It was like a we walked in. It was like
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a pay per view event. It was you could buy it.
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It was. It's quite the quite the thing.
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Wow, wow wow crazy.
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So so you had that, you had that little bit
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of a fall out there for I see report, but
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you can't write back with him. Now you're getting back
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into into it with with them, guys.
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I go see if that works. I don't know if
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the kid will ever actually do the show anyway, who
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the hell knows. But I always keep all the options
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open for myself. You know.
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So, I am a fan of the mafia genre.
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I used to love those A and E shows Bill
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Bill Curtis at the other thing that was, I watched
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every one of them, and I would watch them over
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and over again, like I know every one about the
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Philly ones New York Warnes. I love those shows, especially
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the Philly ones, where I thought were unbelievable.
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Yeah.
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So now this nude genre of let's just face it,
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rats correct that come out. It's you know, one after
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one I'll name the big ones first, Michael Franchise, Sammy
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de Boll, Jimmy Current, Lendra, Mikey.
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Scars, dom Cha Cali. I can go on and on
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and on. These guys are all rats that have shows.
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And platforms now and now they're making money from it.
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They walk around taking photos autographs. I think, I think,
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what's his name franchise makes.
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Twenty million a year, A lot of money. It's a guess,
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but yeah.
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I mean he goes around the world given speeches and
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and you know, my thing is I like the real ones,
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the real shows that are from the guys on the outside.
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A lot of my guys that know this genre have
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a guy in Scranton. He says that guy is great
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because he talks about it from an unbiased There's another guy,
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James something. But they're these guys. You guys are talked
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about it differently than someone would to make them elves
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look good.
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And I didn't do anything wrong. They were gonna do
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this to me. That's why I read it whatever it
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may be.
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But you had this this uh this genre, you know,
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you captured it, and I thought it was fantastic. Three
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weeks ago you quit. You just said that's it. You got,
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you know, six figure subscribers. You got to be making
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money with this. I have some good money, I would think.
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Yeah, it's it's worked well for me.
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And you know, I see your views.
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You've got millions of views and you just decided just
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to get out of it now. Of course, if you
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read the comments, some guys say, well, someone a wise guy,
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perp finally.
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Got to him. Let me tell you something.
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They would have got to me a long time ago
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if that were the case.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, Now listen, So you mentioned like Sammuel Bull, he's
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threatened me multiple times, said I don't know if we
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can can I curse?
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Yeah? He lives in Arizona, so just keep it, keep
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it behind the door.
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He's a video like this said, if you ever come
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to Arizona, I will make you get on your knees
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and wow. Uh Dominis, the colleagues threatened to kill me
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with a nail gun. They've all threatened me multiply, by
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the way.
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Their killers dominic killers too.
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They know where I'm at.
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Yeah, but they are rats.
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So it doesn't matter what you are, how tough you are.
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At the end of the day, when you were presented
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with what happened to you through your mistakes, you through
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your friends under the bus, your family under the bus.
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Why quit the show though, was just more that it
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was a beginning of middle and an end. I had
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always envisioned ending the show. I started it as a
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hobby and it's became part a big part of my
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life in a positive way. But there's a lot of
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negative parts of it too. Whyse guys watch my show?
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Definitely do like I said, When I go to the
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Borgada and play, people come up to me, I know
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who they are. And again, ninety of it it's I
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really like it. They like being talked about. A lot
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of them, you know. But it's just a lot of politics,
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you know. And I just kind of got to a
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point with the show where I was done with it,
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you know, I felt like I'd achieved it. Well, I
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go back to it at some point. Maybe I'm still gonna,
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you know, be involved with it and understand what's going on.
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Maybe I'll return someday, but I needed to take some time.
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He walked away from a lot of money, John, he
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walked away from like, yeah, millions of views. I'm telling
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you this.
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I mean, I still have the Instagram account, it's I mean,
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I still get millions of views on that. You know,
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It's yeah, it's fun.
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But I got this.
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I've always wanted to ask this question, but never have
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had the chance to ask anyone like you this question.
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So these guys that ratted people out, all of these
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guys like I'll use the guy Burrello, Jean Burrello, who
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you've had on your show. While you guys are friends, right.
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The biggest mistake I ever made when I started it
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was like you just talked about you're dealing with the mafia, right,
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these people who they don't talk publicly, they don't even
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admit to the fact that they're in it, right, So
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it's not like a gang or something where you can
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like shadow them or something or whatever. So I have
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to sometimes talk to those types of people. And when
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I first started it, they were the only ones that
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were there. The biggest mistake I made was ever talking
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to any of those people. Oh wow, they are scum.
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They are snakes. They will throw me anybody under the
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They threw their own friends under the bus, some of
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them through their own family under the bus. They're just
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not good people to be around. They're slimy people, they're
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they're fringe society you don't want to be around. But yeah,
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unfortunately they were part of the business for me that
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I had to deal with. If I were telling someone
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that wanted to get into that world and do that
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type of content, I was strongly advised don't speak to them.
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It may work out views wise, but don't put in
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front your ethics or the way you think to get views.
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And that's one thing I did.
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And you've had these guys on their shows. You've had
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Sammy on your show.
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I've had Sammy. I've Sammy was on my show for
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two hours. Wow.
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Wow.
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I had Birello Collie. I've had guys that never spoke before.
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I had a guy, Lewis Kasman on who was essentially
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John Gotti. He was the confidant of John. He's always
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with John Gotti was like his adopted son. I've spoken
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to all sorts of people. I've spoken to people that
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will never speak. They've been sources of mine. It's they
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still call me. I could still get back into it
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at an a time, but it was just time to go.
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My original question was how do they go around and
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the families that they have ruined, the friends they ratted out.
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Are we just in an.
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Era of had the cameras on every corner and no
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one's doing that. There's no tough guys left or what.
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It's not that there's no tough guys left. There's a
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lot of tough guys. There's a lot of if you
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go to benson Hurst, if you go to South Philadelphia,
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if you go to you know, Ozone Park, Queen's there's
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still a lot of guys left. But as you said,
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the federal government has newtered the mafia very well. That's
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one really good thing this government's done is they've taken
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people off the street. They've instituted a law called the
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Rico Act where even if you're an associate, you can
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get hemmed up the boss everybody underneath him, and violence
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is off limits. The mafia hasn't killed another mobster in
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over a decade. Wow, really, yes, the people that have
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been killed. So, there was a guy in twenty nineteen,
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Frank Calli in Staten Island. He was the acting boss
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of the Gambino crime family. He was killed in his
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front lawn. But no, the individual that killed him was
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this deranged guy who was attempting to have a relationship
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with a relative of his. They had made kind of hay.
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At one point he told him to stay away from
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the niece. The kid wanted to impress people. He wanted
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to be a wise guy at some point, and he
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thought through his deranged mind. He's now at a mental
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facility in New York. Wow, he got life in prison
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for that.
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That was a big story when he died.
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It hasn't happened for a long time, and it won't.
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The mafia looks at the mafia now as it's a business.
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There's legitimate businesses. They'll do book making and stuff that's
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not going to result in the long term pinch. They
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may got three four years, but they'll deal with it.
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A lot of it's legitimate business now, construction during the
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merchant loan business through businesses, legal loan sharking essentially. Sure,
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so yeah, the mob is around, but it's not what
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it once was, Like what this city used to be.
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You you hang out in like like Margate, right, like
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Longport Margate. These are places by Atlantic City.
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A couple of times when I'm in Atlantic, that's.
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That's where they all go in the in the summertime, right,
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I mean, but there's no.
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I'm not into life. Okay, I'm not. I've never come
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on my show and said I'm a tough guy. Don't
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do this. I'll do that. I don't. I'm a regular person.
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If you look, if you're Sammy Orvland, you say something
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to me, I'm going to respond. I'm not a sucker.
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I'm not going to sit here and let you belittle me.
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Who are you? I mean, you've who are you to
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talk to me? I mean I've been some of these
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guys say that I'm I'm not honorable, I'm not law.
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This is coming from you. You've put eighty people in prison.
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Guys will die there because of you.
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Didn't kill a innocent kid.
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Alan Kaiser. Yeah, in nineteen seventy nine, sixteen years old. Yeah,
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and then he blamed it on his best friend who
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he killed as well. He is a sub human. It's
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really a shame of where we are in society that
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a person like that is actually accepted. If he walked
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in here right now or in this but most people
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would have to take a picture with it. We live
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in it. But but I blame film one. Some of
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the greatest films of all time are about the mafia.
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We've glorified people who are not meant to be glorified.
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They just aren't your father, my father, his father, and
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his father. I don't know them, but I'm sure they're
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more glorified than these people. And that's where I when
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I started the show, it's kind of the last thing.
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I'll say, I had a different view on these people.
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Like I would see John Gotti and I would think, Wow,
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you know, he's cool, you know, yeah, But I in
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five years found out these are people that would steal
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from me, you, your mother, your sister. There are leeches on society.
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And my goal is to kind of teach that the
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movies are just filmed. They should not be immortalized. But
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they do a good job of immortalizing them. If you
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watch Sopranos, right, yep, Tony's a bad guy, but he's
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not as bad as some of the other people in
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the show, so you learn to like kind of enjoy him.
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When you watch Goodfellas, they make Henry Hill look away.
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He courts Karen right in the Kopa and they make
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these people look great, and they surround him with other
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bad people Tommy, Jimmy, and by the end you're like
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almost rooting for them.
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Yeah, they for the bad guys. Yeah, we're rooting for
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the bad guys. There's no question at all. John did movies.
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We quote, we quote see you know, we quote daily.
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This is the stuff we quote. I mean, it's a
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it is what it is.
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Thinking about it though, which from Jeff's perspective what he
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just said, they're not good guys. These are the guys
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that you're that you're rooting for. You're rooting for the
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bad guys in the movies.
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They basically reel you in as an audience, right, Yeah,
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Like again, Tony Soprano is a bad person. He's killed people,
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He killed people on the show. He cheats on his wife,
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he's a racer, he says a lot of bad things,
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does a lot of bad things. But there are other
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people in the show like Richie.
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Or Ralph, Richard right Stone, cold killer, right black guys.
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Right, so they make you kind of side with him
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always if you notice. And by the end you're like, wow,
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yeah Tony's cool, he's a nice father, and it's like,
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well not really.
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I show you the human side of him for a minute. Yeah, No,
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that that's some fantastic points. Now I will tell you
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too though, I actually learned a lot about the Mafia
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from watching these podcasts. That Samue Bowl originally had something
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called Our Thing or something like that.
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It was great.
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It was like eight or ten episodes. Ever it was,
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and now I don't know how much of it was true.
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It was very entertaining to me. I thought it was,
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you know, to show you things that we would never know,
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as you know, guys outsiders. So there has been some things,
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but they're always from all of these podcasters, always from
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their perspective.
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I'll give you, I'll give you behind the scenes of Gravana,
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the type of person that he is. Right when I
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interviewed him, it was in New York City at Barstool Studios.
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He gets on the screen, it's like a big stream
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like this and he goes, kid, how you doing. I
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said good. He said, favor, don't mention my brother in law,
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and don't mention that.
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Kid like the kidd or his brother. He kills brother
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in law too.
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Yeah, he killed his own brother in law. If you
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want in a while, I'll tell you, oh sure, and
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he'll he won't ever argue this because he knows the truth.
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Samuel Bull's brother in law was a person called Nicholas Shabbetta.
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His wife was Deborah, Sammy's wife. Nicholas Shabetta was homosexual,
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no nomosexual, very much out there from the neighborhood. It's
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been longly suspected that Gravano was bisexual. It's common knowledge
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in Brooklyn. Wow, you can read about it. You could
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search it. Your post has written about it, come out
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in books. Sammy was in some sort of relationship with
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a person called Jack, who was also killed by Sammy
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if you look up his murders. Sammy then killed Nick
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Shabetta because Nick knew about this. Now, I talk to
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people from that neighborhood. In fact, Mikey Scars will tell
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you this, because Mikey Scars is from that neighborhood. Nicky
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Shabbetta was not in the streets. He was a regular guy.
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But Sammy, the scum that he was, went to Paul
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Costelano and said, this kid's a drug dealer. He's a
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bad look for the families. Whip me's with my family.
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I need him dead. Paul said, do what you gotta do.
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Wow.
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So he just killed him, shaved it off like it
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was so.
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Right away when you met him. Don't talk about your
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brother don't talk about the.
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Kid, he said, don't he that. If you bring that up,
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I'll hang up. And you know, when you're doing these
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types of things, and if you actually watch the interview.
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Towards the end, I started bringing up things that I
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knew he hates Mikey Scars. I brought Mikey.
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Scars same family, right, you both Gambino, both Gambino.
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Yeah. In fact, Sammy was at Mikey Scars making ceremony
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Christmas Eve nineteen ninety or nineteen eighty nine, I think,
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But yeah, they don't like each other. But that's that's
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the reason the show started. I wanted to take the
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stories that these people tell you do the research. I
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get FOY, I pay for fo your Requests Freedom Information Act.
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I look through these indictments. I go on to PACER,
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the government website, and I look through this shit. Oh wow,
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you know, there's a lot of stories that are told.
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And look, a lot of these guys in the streets say,
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you know, thank you for telling those stories, because nobody
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tells them the right way. We hear their side, and
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that's right.
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So you're actually doing research by them.
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But I do also talk about the life today and
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that's frown upon him.
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What what I really liked?
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You did an unbelievable expose on these NBA players that
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were playing in the poker games and that we're betting
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they were getting taking lay downs in sports and trying
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to make their entourage money or something. I thought it
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was fantastic. Now, this last thing it just come out
480
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the other day about Malik Beasley, right now, do you
481
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know anything about that yet?
482
00:22:21.319 --> 00:22:22.079
Are you?
483
00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:24.799
So? It's all to go. They're all the same case. Essentially,
484
00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:27.119
they're different cases, but they're all the same. They're all
485
00:22:27.160 --> 00:22:30.400
the same idea a player. We'll start with the players
486
00:22:30.799 --> 00:22:34.039
a player. All these players involved, even guys like Billups,
487
00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:37.319
Damon Jones who are coaches. Now, all of these people
488
00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:42.240
have documented gambling problems. Chauncey Billups has played poker for years. Okay,
489
00:22:42.400 --> 00:22:44.799
so what these guys will do. And it's not mob guys,
490
00:22:44.920 --> 00:22:46.240
it's just poker players.
491
00:22:46.680 --> 00:22:47.559
Not a bad it's not bad.
492
00:22:48.799 --> 00:22:54.279
But it's schemers who are scammers who get in They
493
00:22:54.279 --> 00:22:56.799
get in debt to these people and they'll go up
494
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to them and say, look, you will meet eight hundred
495
00:22:58.880 --> 00:23:02.079
k up. Can't get your hands on eight hundred k
496
00:23:02.160 --> 00:23:06.960
liquid so do this this date, you have eight rebounds,
497
00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:11.160
just don't just go out of a game early or something.
498
00:23:11.279 --> 00:23:13.079
Wow, Well, and I'll take a hundred thousand.
499
00:23:12.839 --> 00:23:15.359
Offers, right, And they say, well, you know, no one's
500
00:23:15.359 --> 00:23:17.400
gonna know anyway, just do it. And it's a year
501
00:23:17.440 --> 00:23:20.519
or two before the administration started cracking down on it.
502
00:23:20.519 --> 00:23:23.240
They don't think they're gonna get caught. Yeah, nobody's doing this.
503
00:23:23.559 --> 00:23:26.319
So let's say Alan Boston's here, right, and Alan's in
504
00:23:26.359 --> 00:23:28.799
the NBA. If he's making twenty million dollars a year,
505
00:23:28.799 --> 00:23:31.319
there's absolutely no reason if he's not a gambler, to
506
00:23:31.640 --> 00:23:36.680
participate in a situation like sure, unless he's there's something
507
00:23:36.720 --> 00:23:38.759
wrong with him or something. There's no right person in
508
00:23:38.759 --> 00:23:41.039
mind that would do that. If you're a straight guy
509
00:23:41.119 --> 00:23:43.359
doing stuff, you're not gonna get involved with stuff like
510
00:23:43.359 --> 00:23:45.680
that for a fee thousand dollars or one hundred thousand dollars.
511
00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:47.880
It's to shave money off. All the people are documented,
512
00:23:47.960 --> 00:23:53.400
but Malik Beasley, it was all rebound props. He was again,
513
00:23:54.559 --> 00:23:56.480
he knew what his rebound prop was. And if you
514
00:23:56.559 --> 00:23:58.000
watch some of the tape, I mean.
515
00:23:57.880 --> 00:23:59.000
You could see he's obvious.
516
00:23:59.279 --> 00:24:01.599
Yeah, even like points spreads. Now there was no point
517
00:24:01.640 --> 00:24:04.240
spreads in the indictment, but like he was going through
518
00:24:04.279 --> 00:24:07.599
a teammate of his, a guy Ed Davis, who had
519
00:24:07.640 --> 00:24:10.640
an agent was there's an agent in the paperwork. His
520
00:24:10.680 --> 00:24:15.039
name is Zamarano. He then had a conduit to known betters.
521
00:24:15.240 --> 00:24:17.960
There's one guy called Big Rob. He goes by Big
522
00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:20.960
Rob style. Been involved with the federal gunment before, another
523
00:24:21.039 --> 00:24:25.559
scam artist banned from all casinos around here. He was
524
00:24:25.559 --> 00:24:27.559
one of the betters and they were just going to
525
00:24:28.000 --> 00:24:31.119
sportsbooks and betting it and they and there's text messages
526
00:24:31.119 --> 00:24:34.759
they're talking about, you know, did you see he you know,
527
00:24:34.799 --> 00:24:36.640
the end of the game, he got the rebound with
528
00:24:36.759 --> 00:24:39.640
six seconds last or whatever. It's all in indictment. The
529
00:24:39.640 --> 00:24:41.359
Feds know everything. They're not going to come to you
530
00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:43.720
without a case already being made. But the other ones
531
00:24:43.759 --> 00:24:47.000
that were done, it's all the same situations. Terry Rozier,
532
00:24:48.119 --> 00:24:50.519
you know, Johntay Porter and all these people will be
533
00:24:50.559 --> 00:24:52.640
banned for life, they'll never play in the NBA game.
534
00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:54.720
It wasn't he getting like twenty five million a year?
535
00:24:55.039 --> 00:24:55.200
Yeah?
536
00:24:55.400 --> 00:24:58.200
Crazy? Had he made a quarter of a billion dollars
537
00:24:58.279 --> 00:25:00.839
Yet I don't know what the it is that they
538
00:25:00.839 --> 00:25:04.720
would actually they owe money. They owe money, right, it's
539
00:25:04.799 --> 00:25:05.319
that set.
540
00:25:05.559 --> 00:25:07.680
I never factor that in and you have to think
541
00:25:07.680 --> 00:25:12.559
about it. In one of the indictments for Beasley, he's
542
00:25:12.880 --> 00:25:16.880
basically scrounging to get two thousand dollars liquid for something
543
00:25:17.079 --> 00:25:17.880
he didn't have it.
544
00:25:18.599 --> 00:25:19.519
That's unbelievable.
545
00:25:20.079 --> 00:25:22.759
And again, like I understand, like if you make let's
546
00:25:22.759 --> 00:25:24.720
just say ten million a year, like you're really gonna
547
00:25:24.720 --> 00:25:27.960
make like six And like, look, these guys spend a
548
00:25:27.960 --> 00:25:32.640
lot of money. Yeah right, they have cars blaying, you know,
549
00:25:34.160 --> 00:25:36.799
crazy quick. So and again a lot of that money
550
00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:39.039
is not liquid too. It might be in investments things
551
00:25:39.079 --> 00:25:42.680
like that, and some of them have gambling problems. And again,
552
00:25:42.720 --> 00:25:45.640
if it's just some random guy, look, if it's some
553
00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:47.519
mob guy, maybe it's like, well, I don't want to
554
00:25:47.559 --> 00:25:49.400
deal with them. But if it's some gambler that you know,
555
00:25:50.000 --> 00:25:51.680
like a lot of the people in these indictments all
556
00:25:51.680 --> 00:25:53.599
know each other. And if we go back to the
557
00:25:53.599 --> 00:25:55.720
one last year that I was on VS. With You
558
00:25:55.880 --> 00:26:02.000
with yep, that was more of it was sports, but
559
00:26:02.039 --> 00:26:04.519
there was another side of it poker.
560
00:26:04.799 --> 00:26:07.559
They were cheating people on poker. Right, Maybe tell the people.
561
00:26:07.559 --> 00:26:10.640
Now again, this is where I thought the Feds did
562
00:26:10.720 --> 00:26:13.279
kind of a poor job. They're all about headlines. We
563
00:26:13.359 --> 00:26:16.359
know that, that's why they did these cases. That said,
564
00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:23.640
I found no connection whatsoever between Chauncey Billups and Damon
565
00:26:23.720 --> 00:26:26.960
Jones with the Mafia. They didn't play in the New
566
00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:31.440
York games. There's essentially roving games. There's some out here.
567
00:26:31.599 --> 00:26:35.039
They're in LA and in New York they have these
568
00:26:35.079 --> 00:26:35.440
as well.
569
00:26:35.559 --> 00:26:37.160
Sure I played in them. John's played in them.
570
00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:43.559
They're in like really nice luxury apartments. The one thing
571
00:26:43.599 --> 00:26:47.359
the Mafia still does very well is they still control
572
00:26:47.440 --> 00:26:51.599
those games. It's New Jersey, the Bronx Harlem and if
573
00:26:51.640 --> 00:26:53.759
you look at both games, one was on the Upper
574
00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:56.279
east Side and one was on the lower east side,
575
00:26:56.799 --> 00:27:02.680
eighty Washington Street, very pristine dress. Okay, that's two families
576
00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:04.279
run it in the same They have guys in there
577
00:27:04.319 --> 00:27:06.559
every night, and they're making a lot of money through
578
00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:09.519
the rake, who makes it a league. But what they
579
00:27:09.519 --> 00:27:11.559
were doing is cheating it.
580
00:27:12.079 --> 00:27:13.079
The rake wasn't enough.
581
00:27:13.200 --> 00:27:15.200
No, they had their shufflers, which.
582
00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:17.160
Automatic shufflers though correct.
583
00:27:17.359 --> 00:27:19.519
And I spoke to a guy that was in the game.
584
00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:23.640
He lost money. He said, you don't understand how much
585
00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:26.599
money they make straight in these games. There was no
586
00:27:26.680 --> 00:27:29.680
reason to do this. But what I also found in
587
00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:33.960
these poker games is there's a also shady group underneath
588
00:27:35.480 --> 00:27:39.000
that are essentially like bringing players in and they're like
589
00:27:39.160 --> 00:27:43.200
crypto sports better young guys. They're in that sports betting
590
00:27:43.200 --> 00:27:47.319
world and they are major scammers. Some of the biggest
591
00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:50.400
scammers in this country right now are in those indictments.
592
00:27:50.720 --> 00:27:56.359
Shane Hennon is one, and I will poker. I guarantee
593
00:27:56.359 --> 00:27:59.559
Shane Hennen right now is in one of these games.
594
00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:04.279
Shane Hennon is one of the biggest informants in this country.
595
00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:06.480
He has been an informant for twenty years.
596
00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:08.720
He's a non informant walking around the World series.
597
00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:11.799
In fact, yes, in fact, I spoke to a man
598
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:16.599
from Pittsburgh back in like the late two thousands. Hennan
599
00:28:16.640 --> 00:28:19.799
was selling cocaine. That's what he was involved in at
600
00:28:19.799 --> 00:28:25.039
that time. He got arrested in Pittsburgh. His connect he
601
00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:29.480
cooperated against a very nice person. I spoke to him.
602
00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:32.799
Franko Badini is his name. He just got out last year.
603
00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:37.400
He did almost twenty years inside WOW or like seventeen
604
00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:41.680
or so. And he said Shane Hennon was the number
605
00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:44.720
one reason I went to prison. And again he said,
606
00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:47.400
I made mistakes. I was a kid back then, and
607
00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:50.319
he's like Footy Now he's got kids. His kids have
608
00:28:50.359 --> 00:28:53.400
grown up without him, which again that sucks for them.
609
00:28:54.359 --> 00:28:57.000
And Hennan is a guy. He went to then Philadelphia,
610
00:28:58.480 --> 00:29:02.680
he got in with people, and he basically just moved
611
00:29:02.680 --> 00:29:04.839
from place to place. And if you notice in all
612
00:29:04.839 --> 00:29:07.440
these indictments, if you read the one with Johntay Porter,
613
00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:10.480
you read the one with Billups, you read all these indictments,
614
00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:13.680
there's one name that's in all of them, Jane Hennon.
615
00:29:14.200 --> 00:29:17.279
And the cherry on top of this is when all
616
00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:20.519
these guys got arrested the Johntay Porter case. Last year,
617
00:29:21.400 --> 00:29:25.480
Hennan was at Harry Reid attempting to board a one
618
00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:29.960
way flight to Columbia. Okay, now, let me ask you something.
619
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:33.119
If you're indicted by the FEDS and you go to
620
00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:36.319
the airport, what are you attempting to do? Yeah, with
621
00:29:36.359 --> 00:29:39.799
the one way to leave exactly now, he claims he
622
00:29:39.839 --> 00:29:44.599
was going there for cosmetic surgery. Now, a person who's
623
00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:48.440
indicted by the FEDS and is attempting to flee the country,
624
00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:51.519
that would have. That's a definition of a flight risk.
625
00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:56.880
The next day he was released randomly, and then he
626
00:29:56.920 --> 00:30:01.359
gets arrested again. In this Billups case, someone reaches out
627
00:30:01.400 --> 00:30:03.160
to me a week later and says, I just saw
628
00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:07.799
Hendon at the win and he's if you go to
629
00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:11.039
LA with some of these big high stakes games, he's
630
00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:14.119
playing in them. He was called out by by a
631
00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:18.599
big time player in one of the Vegas games. I
632
00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:21.400
talked to prominent poker players that know him. Some of
633
00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:23.640
the other defendants. There's a guy in the the case
634
00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:27.279
out of the Billups case, a guy Curtis Meeks. He's
635
00:30:27.319 --> 00:30:30.319
a known He's the one that got the shuffling machines.
636
00:30:31.160 --> 00:30:35.559
He's been I mean on streams, I mean known scammer.
637
00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:39.160
All these guys a Mirawattie, another scammer.
638
00:30:39.480 --> 00:30:40.839
I know that name from that case.
639
00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:42.119
They're all scammers.
640
00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:43.440
So these guys he actually had.
641
00:30:43.400 --> 00:30:46.319
The shuffling machine where me, I wud look like WO
642
00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:47.920
look like a random shuffle, but it wasn't.
643
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:48.519
You would never know.
644
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:49.519
You would never know.
645
00:30:49.720 --> 00:30:52.559
And from what I was told throughout Texas there are
646
00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:54.519
card rooms. They're in there too.
647
00:30:55.359 --> 00:30:58.039
That One of my questions here was what do you
648
00:30:58.119 --> 00:31:01.759
think about home private home games today, nothing like like
649
00:31:01.799 --> 00:31:05.079
a one two, no limit bigger games that are you know,
650
00:31:05.559 --> 00:31:06.799
sitting down with thousands?
651
00:31:06.960 --> 00:31:08.599
How can you play in a game like that.
652
00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:11.000
Well, again, hearing this stuff, we have to understand, like
653
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:14.920
the fact that they did the shuffling stuff is extremely
654
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:19.759
dumb because those games, again were very well done. They're
655
00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:23.039
they're making a ton of money and the Mob. Actually
656
00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:25.720
I don't feel bad for them, but they actually got
657
00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:27.799
kind of because from what I understand, these guys kind
658
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:29.920
of did it under the realm of them not really
659
00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:33.559
knowing that much. They were just kind of overseers, like
660
00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:35.880
they would show up and take their cut and leave. Sure,
661
00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:39.319
now some of the mob defendants in this case, one
662
00:31:39.359 --> 00:31:41.960
of the defendants decided to start a rival game because
663
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:43.839
they got into it. They went and beat them with
664
00:31:43.880 --> 00:31:45.960
a pipe. So like that's where it got bad for
665
00:31:46.000 --> 00:31:51.880
the Mob guys. But again I asked someone that played
666
00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:54.559
in these games. I said, going forward, like if you
667
00:31:54.599 --> 00:31:57.319
were to play in a game like this, like what
668
00:31:57.519 --> 00:31:59.440
what would you spot and what would you not do?
669
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:01.640
Or like what we someone won a spot, right, he said,
670
00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:05.240
if you're in a game like that and there's everybody's
671
00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:08.960
got their phones and stuff. It's probably being cheated.
672
00:32:09.079 --> 00:32:09.440
Wow.
673
00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:12.799
And like I've played on like Huster Casino. I played, Yeah,
674
00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:15.039
you don't have your phone there. They take your phone
675
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:17.440
before you go on stream and it's the late thirty
676
00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:20.480
minutes to prevent stuff like that. But yeah, I mean,
677
00:32:21.599 --> 00:32:23.480
these games are all over the place tonight in New
678
00:32:23.559 --> 00:32:26.039
York City. There are multiple games going on and there
679
00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:29.000
every night of the week. But but the NBA and
680
00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:32.799
some of these leagues have major problems because whether it's
681
00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:36.400
the sport they're playing, all these guys gamble and now
682
00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:39.319
it's so accepted in society that sure, and.
683
00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:42.720
There's there's so many random stats that that don't matter,
684
00:32:42.839 --> 00:32:45.400
like with Chase and how many is he going to
685
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:46.920
throw first pitch ball or strike.
686
00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:50.559
It really doesn't affect the outcome of the games. And
687
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:53.039
that's what they're doing. Yeah, if you notice, like it's
688
00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:57.839
never the point spread, it's never the total, it's steals, props, rebounds, props.
689
00:32:57.960 --> 00:32:59.920
But my own thing is like, how did they get
690
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:03.119
down down? Yeah? But they were, Yeah, they were getting
691
00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:03.599
a lot down.
692
00:33:03.640 --> 00:33:05.680
They must have some kind of local guys they agree
693
00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:08.519
to play with, and they're bet down down tens of thousands.
694
00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:09.799
And I also say this, and I've said this since
695
00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:13.079
this all started. I've told anyone that will listen, the
696
00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:16.079
worst place for this right now. And we saw it
697
00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:19.440
happen a few months after that original case where it
698
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:22.279
was a bunch of college players from like small little
699
00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:25.920
schools Prairie View, A and m little schools. This is
700
00:33:26.079 --> 00:33:31.240
a major problem in college football and basketball, where again
701
00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:36.079
they have literal guys that look like your audio guy
702
00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:39.519
that will just go up to guys in a college Hey,
703
00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:43.240
you're a receiver or you're seing so right, you're not
704
00:33:43.319 --> 00:33:45.119
making that much money. These are guys that are playing
705
00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:47.519
at small schools, they're not making a ton of money.
706
00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:51.839
They'll go to them and say, look, man, like, we'll
707
00:33:51.880 --> 00:33:54.960
drop a twenty five k to your doorstep. Just do
708
00:33:55.079 --> 00:33:58.480
something that we need. This is going on everywhere, and
709
00:33:58.519 --> 00:34:01.359
we saw they were all arrested. There were players, I
710
00:34:01.359 --> 00:34:04.640
think they were about twenty kids arrested. Brennan Sowersby. He
711
00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:09.199
wasn't doing stuff like that. Gambling, major gambling problems. It's
712
00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:11.320
only a matter of time that they didn't get to him. Yeah,
713
00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:13.519
because he was the exact kind of kid you want.
714
00:34:13.880 --> 00:34:16.760
He already has a gambling problem. He probably doesn't have
715
00:34:16.760 --> 00:34:19.199
that much liquid. Yeah, get to him.
716
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:21.719
Wow, there's a gambling problem in every college in America.
717
00:34:21.719 --> 00:34:24.280
I'm talking about gambling that people are gambling on the internet,
718
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gambling on you know your website.
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And that's why Brennan Sworersby will never play in the NFL.
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He will be blacklisted like Colin kaepern because you have
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to drop the hammer. Like Johntay Porter. They drop the
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00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:37.280
hammer on him. He'll never play in the NBA again.
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Terror Zier to be the same thing, Bleak Beasley, same thing.
724
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You know where Milik Beasley last played? Puerto Rico.
725
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Oh I didn't even know.
726
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Okay, a very small league.
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Yeah he is.
728
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That's really like he was a guy that was making
729
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a lot of money.
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I just seen him maybe like tens of millions, like
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sixty million dollars or something.
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He won't even he won't be playing on Mars after this. Wow,
733
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he won't be playing anywhere.
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He's own twenty six million and he's fighting for his
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paycheck this year.
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You know him, I thought there was a shred of
737
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I thought that maybe for him. I thought maybe like
738
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he would say, well, I didn't tell anyone anything, like
739
00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:16.480
he went out of a game early, So I thought
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maybe one of his friends found out and just went
741
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and told someone. But from what I understand, there's a
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lot more to the story.
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So this hurts guys like me because I've been saying
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for years, everyone says.
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Oh, it's fixed, fixed, Oh, this game's fixed.
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00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:30.360
They always think they lose games because the NFL game
747
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is fixed, that mahomes had bad stats on the day. Mahomes,
748
00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:36.320
you know, making half a billion dollars, got to fix
749
00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:38.280
the game. They say fixed all the time because they
750
00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:42.239
feel internally they cannot have a losing day. Because I
751
00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:45.840
always say when they were kids with their parents, Checkers, Chess, Monopoly,
752
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:48.280
the game of the life. They always they got mad
753
00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:50.239
when they lost and they couldn't be Then let's play again,
754
00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:52.960
let's try. They always chasing the money and they can't
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00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:54.800
lose on their own. They're saying, they only look at
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the game from their perspective, out of their blinders, right,
757
00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:00.320
they don't realize that maybe they lost the game because
758
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:00.960
it was a bad pop.
759
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I saw that. And the last thing I'll say on
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this with like props, I saw the MLB Players Association
761
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:10.719
is looking to ban all props because and you have
762
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another side of where like some guy loses one hundred
763
00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:17.960
dollars and he goes in someone's DMS. You fucking motherfucker them. Yeah,
764
00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:19.960
so they're trying to prevent that. But you're also in
765
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:23.159
a rock and a hard place because these books most
766
00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:26.480
of their revenue comes from props and same game parlays,
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00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:30.480
so they're not gonna limit prop. Dude, you're in a
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rock and a hard place.
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So time for this week's wager Wire segment over at
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wagerwire dot com and the wager Wire App.
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It's a fifty dollars four.
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Leg pipe Dream parlay, That's what I'll call it. To
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win ninety three thousand four leg future CAROLINEA to win
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the NHL Championship winner, the Knicks to win their championship
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winner now, the Yankees to win the World Series, and
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00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:56.400
the New York Giants to win the Super Bowl.
777
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Oh god.
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Original odds eighteen hundred and sixty five to one, in
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current ods three hundred and ninety five to one, the
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00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:05.960
current bet value two hundred and thirty six dollars. Let's
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go over a couple of notes here. Obviously, this is
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a total Moonshot has only increased about five times in value,
783
00:37:12.599 --> 00:37:15.480
but because the Giants are actually more of a long
784
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:18.480
shot now than when the bet was placed. But if
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00:37:18.519 --> 00:37:21.400
the Yankees would would win the series, of course the
786
00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:24.679
World Series, then of course you'd get better odds on
787
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this parlay. It would go to around fifteen hundred dollars.
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00:37:27.519 --> 00:37:28.440
The Giants actually have.
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A favorable start in their schedule in September and ocsober
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four of the first six games at home, including Tennessee Arizona.
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But take the money and run.
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If you can get a cash out or buy out
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a partner. I would take a partner on and you
794
00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:46.719
get some of your money back, or maybe get all
795
00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:49.480
your money back. That Giants ain't winning the super Bowl,
796
00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:52.480
and the Yankees are looking terrible right now. Sorry, I'm
797
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alone here. John Orlando over at his favorite event. I
798
00:37:55.400 --> 00:37:57.000
know you thought I was gonna say World Cup. No,
799
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not World Cup. His favorite event is a World Series
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00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:02.960
as a poker. So we'll bring John back on next week.
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But all right, guys, thanks, Well this has been great, Johnny,
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have anything else for Jeff?
803
00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:08.559
I mean, he's just fascinating. I could listen to him
804
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for hours.
805
00:38:09.079 --> 00:38:11.840
Oh he is and uh oh you said something on
806
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your last show. I just heard the San Gennaro Feast,
807
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which I used to love to go, and I was like,
808
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:17.679
I went to the one in the Bronx the most,
809
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:19.800
but the sand the real little Italy is in the
810
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Bronx by the way after Avenue. But San Gennaro Feast,
811
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:25.159
though I'm Mulberry, I went multiple times.
812
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You used to go, and now you I would think that.
813
00:38:29.480 --> 00:38:30.760
I can't go alone anymore.
814
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:32.280
Okay, you can't go alone anymore.
815
00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:34.320
And it's not that I'm like, look, I'll tell you
816
00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:37.000
right now, Bill, I don't worry about a wise guy
817
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:40.360
hurting me yet. Sure, in fact, they would probably talk
818
00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:43.599
to me and be nice to me. It's these sickle
819
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:49.000
fans who think because they had a coffee five feet
820
00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:50.800
away from a wise guy that they're a wise guy
821
00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:55.079
and they want addition, they do a beating, right. You know,
822
00:38:55.360 --> 00:38:57.880
I've been at through Burgata. I've said where like guys
823
00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:00.400
would come up to me and kind of like, you know,
824
00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:04.039
you know, you shouldn't be here, ship like that and whatever.
825
00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:06.599
I'm just but like the sands in our feast is
826
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still very mob involved.
827
00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:13.199
You know, most of the John's podcast studios in uh
828
00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:17.280
in Boca. That's where Joey does his show. I've been
829
00:39:17.320 --> 00:39:18.400
on Joeysicky Pause.
830
00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:21.719
Right, it's a podcast, JUNKIESCA.
831
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:22.599
That's where he does.
832
00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:25.719
And he came into our podcast and heat him and
833
00:39:25.800 --> 00:39:26.519
little they were, they were.
834
00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:27.000
They were fine.
835
00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:30.239
So I've known so little Snuff. I've known since we
836
00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:34.760
were kids, Snuff as a It's good to see him
837
00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:37.039
have success because he's a guy who i've known fears, and.
838
00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:37.960
He was younger like all of us.
839
00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:40.239
He absolutely did. I could tell you a good story
840
00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:44.559
about stuff. I won't do it. But he his family,
841
00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:46.360
they're good people. I know his sister very well. But
842
00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:51.000
Joey I've known, We've everybody knows Joey. But Joey's had
843
00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:55.400
a wild life. But Joey's got some great stories. I
844
00:39:55.440 --> 00:39:57.159
love Skinny Joys. I've been there many times.
845
00:39:57.280 --> 00:40:00.480
I was there last week. Oh real, is there.
846
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:04.760
Part of the neighborhood. Yeah, Joey, we've had joe Joey's
847
00:40:04.800 --> 00:40:08.360
had it out with these performance as well many times. Yeah,
848
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:09.400
they hate him as well.
849
00:40:09.559 --> 00:40:11.559
So and you guys are good. Didn't you go there?
850
00:40:11.679 --> 00:40:12.639
Did you did a show there?
851
00:40:12.679 --> 00:40:14.599
I did it? Well, I didn't do it. I kind
852
00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:16.000
of did like a click. Yeah, I did like a
853
00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:18.000
live stream, but I've been on their show as well.
854
00:40:18.840 --> 00:40:22.199
We actually talked about some informants. So yeah, I know
855
00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:25.000
those guys and they're doing good things. They're opening they
856
00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:28.000
opened another one in the wild Wood and yeah they're
857
00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:29.239
they're they're cool guys.
858
00:40:29.400 --> 00:40:32.920
So, uh, you know you're you're playing in an event today.
859
00:40:33.079 --> 00:40:34.000
What's the event today?
860
00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:34.320
What is it?
861
00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:36.639
It's three thousand freeze out?
862
00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:38.960
Okay, no living hold of the freezer? Yeah, do you
863
00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:41.760
believe last show, this guy just came in here and
864
00:40:41.920 --> 00:40:43.159
handed me ten thousand dollars.
865
00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:45.880
Yeah, you were saying that to crazy, So wait you
866
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:46.519
and I met him.
867
00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:49.760
I met him and I met the guy at the fifty.
868
00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:54.519
Is that crazy? Listen to this you have the money
869
00:40:54.679 --> 00:40:55.079
or yeah?
870
00:40:55.159 --> 00:40:57.320
Yeah, it's crazy? Story again? Is he still here?
871
00:40:57.440 --> 00:40:59.559
If you want, you can give me a Yeah, it's
872
00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:00.360
a crazy. Sorry.
873
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:03.639
I'm playing in the two fifty daily and this guy
874
00:41:03.679 --> 00:41:05.320
says to me, I listen to you and crack all
875
00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:05.599
the time.
876
00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:07.480
I say, oh, thanks, man, thanks to start talking to
877
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:10.719
him whatever. Who's the guy that was here? Yeah? Yeah, Gary, yeah,
878
00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:11.760
Gary Bentley.
879
00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:14.039
So then he says to me, he says, did you
880
00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:16.480
find a sponsor because I said on the show, Crack
881
00:41:16.840 --> 00:41:17.519
playing the main.
882
00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:18.239
He's like, I'm not gonn play.
883
00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:19.920
I said, if I get you a sponsor where you play,
884
00:41:20.039 --> 00:41:22.400
he goes yeah. So then a couple of weeks ago,
885
00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:25.719
I already had it last week when I said to you,
886
00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:29.039
I already had it from Gary. But last week I said,
887
00:41:29.159 --> 00:41:31.440
if I get you the sponsor, Crack, you are playing, right,
888
00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:32.000
and he goes yeah.
889
00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:33.840
I said okay, So I told Gary.
890
00:41:33.559 --> 00:41:36.360
I said, come in, but anyway, I'm playing, and he
891
00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:39.159
says to me, if you if you don't get that sponsor,
892
00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:41.199
I'll put I'll put Crack in.
893
00:41:41.519 --> 00:41:44.039
I go yeah. He goes, yeah, I'll put him in.
894
00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:46.239
I love your show, and he said I forgot to
895
00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:50.800
say it when it you remind him of his first
896
00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:51.639
foster father.
897
00:41:51.880 --> 00:41:53.280
Oh wow, nice.
898
00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:57.119
And he just really has a connection critical to you.
899
00:41:58.000 --> 00:41:59.559
I was about responsible gambling.
900
00:41:59.599 --> 00:41:59.920
Correct.
901
00:41:59.880 --> 00:42:03.400
I go after a so so he says, he says,
902
00:42:03.480 --> 00:42:05.599
y'all put him in. But you know people say stuff
903
00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:08.079
and a poker like come on, like really like actually
904
00:42:08.280 --> 00:42:12.199
they believed him. So he ends up busting he leaves.
905
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:15.199
Thirty minutes later, he comes back. I didn't even recognize
906
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:17.159
him because's wearing a hat. This time he comes back
907
00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:20.320
and he goes, hey, and he pulls in his pocket.
908
00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:23.559
He pulls out a plastic bag like from the grocery store,
909
00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:26.480
and he says, here, I'm still in the tournament. He
910
00:42:26.559 --> 00:42:28.599
goes here, I just wanted you to know I was serious.
911
00:42:28.639 --> 00:42:31.079
I go, what's this and he goes, it's the buy in.
912
00:42:31.400 --> 00:42:33.360
I go what? And I opened up the.
913
00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:39.039
Bag and it's too He's going to play.
914
00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:40.840
Yeah, I'd rather have someone else to play.
915
00:42:41.599 --> 00:42:42.760
No, rather have like you or you.
916
00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:46.000
I really were playing, but I'd rather have them play
917
00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:46.199
than me.
918
00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:49.400
They are playing Bill. Before we go, I want to
919
00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:52.400
say one thing, rest in peace to Fats.
920
00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:53.639
Yeah, Steve.
921
00:42:55.559 --> 00:43:00.280
I had some great conversations with him on spaces about
922
00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:04.559
just gambling. He's from my area. I never had to
923
00:43:04.599 --> 00:43:05.639
meet him, but very nice.
924
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:07.000
We got to meet him a couple of time. John
925
00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:09.440
even met him. Yeah, yeah, very nice guy. He came
926
00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:10.039
in last year.
927
00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:12.199
I'll tell you what last year do you remember? I
928
00:43:12.239 --> 00:43:15.760
don't know if you know. He went to battle with McDonald's.
929
00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:17.360
They went after McDonald's drive through.
930
00:43:17.800 --> 00:43:21.440
Very funny. He was a ruthless guy on on that stuff.
931
00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:23.960
If he went after he was ruthless. Yeah, for sure.
932
00:43:24.199 --> 00:43:27.079
He went after some real big scumbags in that world,
933
00:43:27.159 --> 00:43:29.400
so shot him. Fat was a good man, Rest in
934
00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:29.880
peace to him.
935
00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:31.199
Well listen, good Luck.
936
00:43:31.239 --> 00:43:34.039
We really appreciate having you on and look forward to
937
00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:36.920
your continue continuing success and I personally want you to
938
00:43:36.920 --> 00:43:39.199
get back in the mob genre. I know you you
939
00:43:39.239 --> 00:43:39.559
never know.
940
00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:40.960
Good luck with the show on barstool.
941
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:42.280
Thank you appreciate that