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Welcome back to the Michael Cohen Show. On our journey,
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Late last night, Trump posted on his truth social platform
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that Tom Homan, who was the former acting director of ICE,
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Immigration and Customs Enforcement from the first administration, is now
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going to be in charge of our nation's borders. All right,
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let's read Trump's posts from last night. It says, I'm
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pleased to announce that the former ICE director and stalwart
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on border control, Tom Homan, will be joining the administration
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in charge of our nation's borders. In quotes, the borders
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are including, but not limited to, this southern border, the
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northern border, all maritime and aviation security. I've known Tom
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for a long time, and there is nobody better at
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policing and controlling our borders. Likewise, Tom Homan will be
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in charge of all deportation of illegal aliens back to
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their country of origin. Congratulations to Tom. I have no
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doubt he will do a fantastic and long awaited for job. Now, look,
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let me be clear about something. I know Donald Trump
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better than all of you combined. I know Donald better
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than Tom Homan. This is a promise that he said
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that he intended to do, literally going back to the
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initial campaign of twenty fifteen, and you may remember everything
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that happened with the children and the separation. These. To me,
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while I am one hundred percent for borders, I believe
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that a country without borders quite is in a country
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at all, something I had said to Trump and he
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ultimately adopted. However it is that he describes it. But
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what I'm not okay with is the separation of the
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families and the chaos that it ultimately ensues. So I
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want to show you three clips of Home and talking
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about deportation in the past, and specifically the separation of families.
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So first, here's a clip on sixty minutes talking about
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the price of deportation. Play the clip.
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We have seen one estimate that says it would cost
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eighty eight billion dollars to deport a million people a year.
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I don't know if that's accurd or not.
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Is that what American taxpayers should expect.
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What price do you put on a national security? Is
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that worth it? Is there a way to carry out
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mass deportation without separating families? Of course, families can be
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deported together.
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Okay, So why didn't they do it the first time
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when he was the undersecretary. I don't know. My hope is, again,
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I believe that you come into this country, you need
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to come into the country legally. There needs to be
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a better process all of this. My hope is that
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this new administration coming in will actually tackle it, but
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tackle it from a human perspective, an American perspective. But
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then here's Homan arguing with AOC about separating families during deportation.
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Play that clip this memo.
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You're not the author, but you signed the memo.
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Yes, a zero tolerance memo.
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So you provided the official recommendation to Secretary Nielsen on
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families for the United States to pursue family separation.
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Gave Secretary Nielsen numerous recommendations on how to secure the
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border and save lives.
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But it says here that you gave her numerous options,
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but the recommendation was option three, family separation.
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What I'm saying this is not the only paper where
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were given the Secretary numerous options to secure the border
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and saved lives.
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And so the recommendation of the many that you recommended,
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you recommended family separation.
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I recommend a zero tolerance.
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Which includes family separation.
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The same as is whenever US citizen parent gets arrested when.
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They're with the child.
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Zero tolerance was interpreted as the policy that separated children
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from there.
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If I get arrested for GUI and I have a
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young child in a car, I won't be separated. When
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I also police officer in New York and I arrested
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a father for domestic violence, I separate that.
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Mister Olmer, with.
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All two respect legal assylies are not charged with any crime.
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When you're in the country, I legally is violation eighty
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United States Code thirteen twenty five.
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Seeking asylum is legal.
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Do you want to seek asilamon to go through the
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port of entry? Do it the legal way. The Attorney
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General of the United States had made that clear.
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Okay, yeah, Look again, one of the biggest problems that
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we constantly see is you really don't get an answer.
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I mean, these these hearings, they don't really produce too much.
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You know, basically there's a lot of showmanship. AOC was
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asking what I would consider it to be very direct questions.
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You know, at that time, Hope mister Homan made the
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determination that he was going to play a wordsmithing game.
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And then she then, of course tries to push back,
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and then he then pushes back, and then it goes
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into a tangent about how when he was a police
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officer here in New York on a you know, on
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some sort of a domestic violence case that you get
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separated again. There's so much that's going on here. One
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of the things that we all have to keep our
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eyes on as this new administration will come into play
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come January twentieth, is what exactly is the policy? You said,
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we'll all acknowledge that our immigration system is broken. I
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hope we can all acknowledge together that our immigration system
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has been broken for many, many years, in fact, probably
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more than fifty now. I do know that there are
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several Republican centers like Langford who has come up with
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a policy that they believe is very conservative. But it
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also doesn't It doesn't sort of again dehumanize these individuals,
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nor does it put the United States in a negative light.
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Throughout the world. Now, many people are going to turn
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and say, come on, you know they're here illegally. They
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need to go again. Again, there needs to be a
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total overhaul. Question is not whether or not an overhaul
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is needed. The question that we really need to ask
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ourselves is how to accomplish it? Right? I mean, you
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know he could turn around, for that matter, and just
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turn around and say, you know what, if you're illegal
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and you're on this some and on our country, then
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you know we have the ability to, as Donald had
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once said, shoot him in the legs as they're trying
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to come through. Or can't we just shoot at them.
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The answer to that is no, No, that's not who
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we are. It's not who we are as a country. Again,
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I don't disagree with the notion that we need better
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border controls and that only people who are coming in
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here illegally should be permitted to Till my wife came here,
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till my father came here, it's how my grandmother came here.
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For God's sakes, let's be let's be real. Nobody's arguing
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that it's just again how they implement the policy, and
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nothing that's zero tolumn ever really works out Now, finally,
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here's the clip of Homan being really kind of rude
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to Promila Gipaul while discussing deportation. Play the clip.
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You were saying that I wish so many Democrat leadership
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would say that out loud.
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Look, you want to know why there's fifty thousand people
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in attention you, why and why we have a million
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one man into the entries in the United States.
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You want to not have these issues because you have
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failed to secure the border. You have failed to work
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with this president to close the three loopholes we've asked
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for two years to close.
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So if you want to know why this issue exists,
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you need to look in the mirror. You need you
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have failed. American people are not securing the border and
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closing loopholes.
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Mister Homan. Look, please respect the chair and the authority
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of the chair. The time of the gentleman has expired.
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I've asked you polite to let me go beyond my time,
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and you let other people go beyond their turn, but
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not to Tom Holman.
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He don't get me go beyond this time.
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Mister Homan. We have this is three minsen the Republicans
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and the Democrats with the ranking member we increase the
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time of one witness at one member of Congress who
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was interrupted by a protest. That is done with the
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approval of the ranking member. Please respect the chairs authority.
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The respect the chair. You work for me. I'm a taxpayer.
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I'm a taxpayer. You work for me.
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The witness will suspend you.
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See performative art. It's why Donald likes this guy so much.
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He's a fighter. He's willing to turn around and to
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say to the chair, fuck you.
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All right.
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This is a policy that Trump wants to enact. He's
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always wanted to enact this type of a zero tolerance
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immigration policy. And here Homan wasn't going to stand for
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Jaiapaul's you know comments and so on. He wasn't going
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to do that. He was going to push back. And
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that's what Trump. He wants everybody to fight. He likes
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this chaos. This chaos is not what the rest of
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us are hoping for. Who knows how this next administration
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is going to run all we can do. And many
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people get angry at me when I say I'm hopeful,
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not optimistic, but I am hopeful that there will be civility,
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that they will be able to work across the aisle
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with one another in order to pass rules and regulations
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and laws that benefit all American people, and so who knows. Again,
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all we can do is hope, and I hope to
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see you guys here on the show very very soon.
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Welcome back to the Michael Cohen Show. On our journey,
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our continued journey to two hundred and fifty thousand subscribers.
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Lent my friends, This is not the time to unsubscribe.
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In fact, this is the time to subscribe and share
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with friends, because there's a lot that's going to be
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going on, and I want to start by talking about
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Late last night, Trump posted on his truth social platform
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that Tom Homan, who was the former acting director of ICE,
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Immigration and Customs Enforcement from the first administration, is now
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going to be in charge of our nation's borders. All right,
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let's read Trump's posts from last night. It says, I'm
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pleased to announce that the former ICE director and stalwart
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on border control, Tom Homan, will be joining the administration
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in charge of our nation's borders. In quotes, the borders
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are including, but not limited to, this southern border, the
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northern border, all maritime and aviation security. I've known Tom
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for a long time, and there is nobody better at
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policing and controlling our borders. Likewise, Tom Homan will be
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in charge of all deportation of illegal aliens back to
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their country of origin. Congratulations to Tom. I have no
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doubt he will do a fantastic and long awaited for job. Now, look,
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let me be clear about something. I know Donald Trump
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better than all of you combined. I know Donald better
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than Tom Homan. This is a promise that he said
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that he intended to do, literally going back to the
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initial campaign of twenty fifteen, and you may remember everything
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that happened with the children and the separation. These. To me,
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while I am one hundred percent for borders, I believe
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that a country without borders quite is in a country
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at all, something I had said to Trump and he
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ultimately adopted. However it is that he describes it. But
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what I'm not okay with is the separation of the
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families and the chaos that it ultimately ensues. So I
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want to show you three clips of Home and talking
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about deportation in the past, and specifically the separation of families.
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So first, here's a clip on sixty minutes talking about
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the price of deportation. Play the clip.
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We have seen one estimate that says it would cost
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eighty eight billion dollars to deport a million people a year.
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I don't know if that's accurd or not.
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Is that what American taxpayers should expect.
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What price do you put on a national security? Is
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that worth it? Is there a way to carry out
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mass deportation without separating families? Of course, families can be
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deported together.
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Okay, So why didn't they do it the first time
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when he was the undersecretary. I don't know. My hope is, again,
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I believe that you come into this country, you need
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to come into the country legally. There needs to be
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a better process all of this. My hope is that
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this new administration coming in will actually tackle it, but
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tackle it from a human perspective, an American perspective. But
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then here's Homan arguing with AOC about separating families during deportation.
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Play that clip this memo.
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You're not the author, but you signed the memo.
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Yes, a zero tolerance memo.
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So you provided the official recommendation to Secretary Nielsen on
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families for the United States to pursue family separation.
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Gave Secretary Nielsen numerous recommendations on how to secure the
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border and save lives.
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But it says here that you gave her numerous options,
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but the recommendation was option three, family separation.
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What I'm saying this is not the only paper where
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were given the Secretary numerous options to secure the border
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and saved lives.
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And so the recommendation of the many that you recommended,
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you recommended family separation.
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I recommend a zero tolerance.
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Which includes family separation.
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The same as is whenever US citizen parent gets arrested when.
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They're with the child.
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Zero tolerance was interpreted as the policy that separated children
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from there.
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If I get arrested for GUI and I have a
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young child in a car, I won't be separated. When
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I also police officer in New York and I arrested
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a father for domestic violence, I separate that.
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Mister Olmer, with.
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All two respect legal assylies are not charged with any crime.
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When you're in the country, I legally is violation eighty
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United States Code thirteen twenty five.
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Seeking asylum is legal.
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Do you want to seek asilamon to go through the
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port of entry? Do it the legal way. The Attorney
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General of the United States had made that clear.
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Okay, yeah, Look again, one of the biggest problems that
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we constantly see is you really don't get an answer.
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I mean, these these hearings, they don't really produce too much.
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You know, basically there's a lot of showmanship. AOC was
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asking what I would consider it to be very direct questions.
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You know, at that time, Hope mister Homan made the
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determination that he was going to play a wordsmithing game.
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And then she then, of course tries to push back,
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and then he then pushes back, and then it goes
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into a tangent about how when he was a police
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officer here in New York on a you know, on
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some sort of a domestic violence case that you get
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separated again. There's so much that's going on here. One
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of the things that we all have to keep our
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eyes on as this new administration will come into play
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come January twentieth, is what exactly is the policy? You said,
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we'll all acknowledge that our immigration system is broken. I
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hope we can all acknowledge together that our immigration system
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has been broken for many, many years, in fact, probably
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more than fifty now. I do know that there are
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several Republican centers like Langford who has come up with
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a policy that they believe is very conservative. But it
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also doesn't It doesn't sort of again dehumanize these individuals,
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nor does it put the United States in a negative light.
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Throughout the world. Now, many people are going to turn
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and say, come on, you know they're here illegally. They
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need to go again. Again, there needs to be a
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total overhaul. Question is not whether or not an overhaul
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is needed. The question that we really need to ask
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ourselves is how to accomplish it? Right? I mean, you
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know he could turn around, for that matter, and just
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turn around and say, you know what, if you're illegal
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and you're on this some and on our country, then
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you know we have the ability to, as Donald had
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once said, shoot him in the legs as they're trying
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to come through. Or can't we just shoot at them.
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The answer to that is no, No, that's not who
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we are. It's not who we are as a country. Again,
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I don't disagree with the notion that we need better
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border controls and that only people who are coming in
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here illegally should be permitted to Till my wife came here,
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till my father came here, it's how my grandmother came here.
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For God's sakes, let's be let's be real. Nobody's arguing
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that it's just again how they implement the policy, and
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nothing that's zero tolumn ever really works out Now, finally,
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here's the clip of Homan being really kind of rude
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to Promila Gipaul while discussing deportation. Play the clip.
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You were saying that I wish so many Democrat leadership
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would say that out loud.
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Look, you want to know why there's fifty thousand people
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in attention you, why and why we have a million
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one man into the entries in the United States.
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You want to not have these issues because you have
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failed to secure the border. You have failed to work
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with this president to close the three loopholes we've asked
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for two years to close.
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So if you want to know why this issue exists,
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you need to look in the mirror. You need you
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have failed. American people are not securing the border and
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closing loopholes.
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Mister Homan. Look, please respect the chair and the authority
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of the chair. The time of the gentleman has expired.
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I've asked you polite to let me go beyond my time,
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and you let other people go beyond their turn, but
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not to Tom Holman.
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He don't get me go beyond this time.
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Mister Homan. We have this is three minsen the Republicans
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and the Democrats with the ranking member we increase the
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time of one witness at one member of Congress who
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was interrupted by a protest. That is done with the
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approval of the ranking member. Please respect the chairs authority.
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The respect the chair. You work for me. I'm a taxpayer.
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I'm a taxpayer. You work for me.
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The witness will suspend you.
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See performative art. It's why Donald likes this guy so much.
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He's a fighter. He's willing to turn around and to
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say to the chair, fuck you.
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All right.
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This is a policy that Trump wants to enact. He's
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always wanted to enact this type of a zero tolerance
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immigration policy. And here Homan wasn't going to stand for
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Jaiapaul's you know comments and so on. He wasn't going
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to do that. He was going to push back. And
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that's what Trump. He wants everybody to fight. He likes
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this chaos. This chaos is not what the rest of
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us are hoping for. Who knows how this next administration
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is going to run all we can do. And many
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people get angry at me when I say I'm hopeful,
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not optimistic, but I am hopeful that there will be civility,
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that they will be able to work across the aisle
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with one another in order to pass rules and regulations
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and laws that benefit all American people, and so who knows. Again,
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all we can do is hope, and I hope to
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see you guys here on the show very very soon.
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