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Welcome to What a Creep, the podcast that talks about
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creeps of the past and the present. My name is
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Sonia Mansfield and joining me for this episode is my friend,
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the brilliant Aaron Limb from Bitch Talk podcast. Hello, Welcome
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to the party.
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Pal, Hello, Hello, how are you?
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I am getting by the world is worlding, but.
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Oh it's worlding hard.
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It is. We are going to make so many dick jokes, y'all,
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So let me get through the housekeeping and we will
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talk about that asshole Dick Cheney here in one minute.
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So number one, here's your warning. Oh, I already swore
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we use salty language on the show. If you don't
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like that, maybe this show isn't for you. You can
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go to our basic Facebook page and be like, I
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don't leggy when they swear, but I never go there
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because we have a private Facebook group. You can, you know,
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answer a few questions not to be a creep and
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we'll let you in. And it's the best thing on Facebook.
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It's the only reason I go on Facebook is to
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be in this group and we talk about creeps and
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non creeps and we share pictures of our pets. If
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you want to know more, about the show. Visit the
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website What a creeppodcast dot com. You have links to
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all of our past episodes and you'll notice in all
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those posts that we have show notes. Because we source
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everything we do, We're not making this stuff up. We
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want to give people credit for the work that they do.
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Our friends in the media doing the good work. If
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you want to dig dig a little deeper on this creep,
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start with our show notes. Fabulous place to start. You
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can follow us on Blue Sky and yes, I'm on Instagram,
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but What a Creep doesn't spend a lot of time
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on there, so go to Blue Sky, or you can
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email me at what a creeppod at gmail dot com
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and send me your suggestions because we love requests. If
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there's a creep you want us to talk about, send
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it our way. Dick Cheney's been a request multiple times,
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but we were waiting till he died so that he
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wasn't doing more creepy things and we could just end
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the episode and not have to update.
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Waiting until he died.
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Yeah, we have a couple of people I would like, like,
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why don't you cover Trump? And I'm like, cause he
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does creepy shit every day, like we have to wait.
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Y'all are confident. Y'all are confident. We're confident.
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You can also go to our Patreon page where we
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have bonus content. And I've been putting out a newsletter
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because without Margo, like, I haven't really been doing the
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like bonus where we talk about the news. But my
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sister has volunteered. So if you want to hear the
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Sister show, go to the Patreon. Uh. Are we ready
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to make some Dick jokes? Yep? All right, I've got
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a few sources for this episode. We've got AP News, CNN,
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The Guardian, The New York Times, Wikipedia, What have you
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got going on your end?
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I was in pr PBS News Hour.
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Perfect, everybody check those out. Yes, I will introduce this asshole. Sure,
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I'll give give y'all some background and then we'll get
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into the really juicy stuff. So, for some reason, you
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don't know who Dick Cheney is.
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Lucky you, Yeah, what kind of world does that?
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I know? You must be blessed. Dick Cheney was the
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White House Chief of Staff for President Gerald Ford. He
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served in the House of Representatives for Wyoming from seventy
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nine to eighty nine. He was the Secretary of Defense
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for a while for George H. W. Bush. Then he
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was vice president for George W. Bush from two thousand
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and one two thousand and nine. During that time, he
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rebranded torture as quote enhanced interrogation, argued if the president
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does something, then it's legal. Thanks Dick, Thanks.
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Let it Dick. I know he.
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Pushed our country into a war that killed a lot
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of civilians and service members in Iraq. He also personally
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profited from that war. We're going to get into it.
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It's almost quaint compared to what we're dealing with now.
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But I mean some may say the good old days, Yeah,
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not me, but not me.
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He recently got a really nice redemption arc from the
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media and society because he did the bare fucking minimum
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and announced that he was going to vote for Kamala
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Harris in the twenty twenty four election. And then he
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denounced Trump is unfit for the oval office and that
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he's a grave threat to demo your democracy because he's
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going to use the playbook that Dick created and break
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every law when you're president because they just let you
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do it. Yep, thanks for nothing, Dick.
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He he wrote that into fruition basically.
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Yes, he did m people like Dick Cheney, like paved
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the way for what we're dealing with. Now. Oh yeah,
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his redemption arc didn't work on us.
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Clutching his pearls. Yes, he was clutching his pearls.
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I'm offended.
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I'm offended by this white man. Yes, it's playing by
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my roles.
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Yes, exactly who where did he get these awful ideas? Oops?
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Oops?
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I wrote them? Oh and then he just pieced out
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on his peace out good luck to you?
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Well, you know, and then the other other bush is
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just painting, I know, fucking whatever. I know an artist.
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Now, yeah he's useless. He was useless.
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Then, yes, useless.
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Yes, so let's start at the beginning of this.
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Yeah.
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Richard Bruce Cheney was born January thirtieth, nineteen forty one
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and Lincoln, Nebraska. His father was Richard Cheney. He worked
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for the Department of Agriculture. His mother, Marjorie, was a
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softball star in the thirties. That's very cool, like, get it, Marjorie.
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Yeah, she seemed brad. Yeah, what happened? I know what happened?
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I know, well, I think I think.
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Uh, you know, it happened.
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Yeah, exactly, did happened. It happens. Look, well, look we've
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all been trapped by some dick.
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It happens, It does happen.
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So in high school, Dick Cheney was captain of the
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football team and president of the senior class. But he
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wasn't a top student. I just needed to throw that
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in there. He didn't get good grades, y'all. Yea, His
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girlfriend Lynn was the homecoming queen. They got married in
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nineteen sixty four. They had two daughters, Liz and Mary.
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He entered Yale in nineteen fifty nine, again poor grades,
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flunked out twice, left after three semesters because he's a quitter.
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He's a quitter, y'all.
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He quit.
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Yes, it's sixty two or sorry. In sixty two, at
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the age of twenty one, he was convicted of drunk
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driving and then convicted again the following year.
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Didn't learn anything.
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No, third time's the charm. No, I don't think it
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happened a third time, but whatever.
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We don't know.
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Maybe maybe, But he decided to spend less time drinking
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and driving and go back to school, so he got
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a bachelor's, got a master's in political science at the
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University of Wyoming, and even though we were in a
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war at the time, he never served in the military.
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He got four deferments as a student. That's why he
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went back to school. I suspect timing is interesting, yes,
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which I would probably do the same thing. Who am
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I today?
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Right?
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I ain't fighting for shit?
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So but yeah, and talk about his legacy, yes we will.
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Yeah. So he got four defer mints as a student,
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and he got one because he was married with children.
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So he got into politics in sixty nine and he
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was an intern for a congressman during the Nixon administration.
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Then he joined the staff of Donald Rumsfeld. It's Rummy, y'all.
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We're gonna get terrible.
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We're gonna get to him someday for Jay.
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Well, he's dead, right, isn't he Yeah?
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So there, yeah, he's done, so we can he will
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do again.
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Your patience isn't peccable.
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We're so good at this, I will say. Margot and
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I had a really good streak going for a while
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where we would cover creeps and then they would die
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shortly after, and we were like, you're welcome, right, welcome society.
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Y'all did it?
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Yeah, we did it, Joe, So good old Rummy uh
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at the time was the Director of Office Economic Opportunity whatever. Yeah,
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and then Dick's like, I'm gonna hitch my wagon to
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this guy. So he, you know, Rumsfeld rises up and
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Dick just follows him along as Dick does, as Dick does.
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So Ramsfeld gets promoted to you know, some council. Dick
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joins it. He let's see, Rumsfeld became the White House
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chief of Staff and Dick became the deputy chief of staff,
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and then Ford appointed Rumsfeld Secretary of Defense. And that's
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when Dick moved up and became chief of Staff of
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the White House at the time, the youngest to ever
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do it.
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He was, he was a baby. Yeah.
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The dude always looked like an old man though, always
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like Wilford Brimley. Yeah, that beat us beat us, always old.
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It always old. There's certain people like Wilford Brimley was
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one of them. He's like born an old man, yes, yes.
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And the other is Dick Cheney.
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Dick Cheney was always old yes. Home over anyways.
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Yeah, So Ford loses to Jimmy Carter spoilers for an
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election in nineteen seventy six. But he loses, and then
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Dick's like I'm going to head back to Washington and
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try not to shoot people in the face.
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He does that, and he gets a job in banking,
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and then he's like, I miss being in public office.
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He tries running, well, he does. He runs for House
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of Representative and during his campaign he has one of
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his many heart attacks that he has throughout his life.
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He somehow lived a very long life. Yes, really bad
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fucking heart.
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Yeah, it's so on the nose.
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It is really. When I was saying that, I'm like, wow,
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it's really poetic.
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It's so poetic. So he had one of his patented
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heart attacks like he does.
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But young but young eight or something.
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Yeah, he was young. Yeah, and he won in a landslide,
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like I assume it was like a pity vote. Everyone's like, oh,
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and they all vote for him because the dude has
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like no good ideas and he has like negative charisma.
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I don't oh zero riz zero riz, as the kids say.
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So he makes it to the House of Representatives, where
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he he's a huge dick. Surprise. He votes for prayer
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in school. He votes for restrictions on abortion. He votes
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against gun control and aids research and organized labor and
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welfare programs and spending for educating all of the good stuff.
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He didn't want us to recognize Martin Luther King's birthday.
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Oh I didn't know that one.
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Like, you know, he voted against sanctions against South Africa
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for apartheid, like all the all the golden oldies, like
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the hits. Yeah, Dick was thumbs down on Dick. I mean,
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he really was such a dick always. I don't know
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it because he's born old. Yeah, he just made him grouchy,
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born looking like.
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A thumb born old.
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He had another one of his like heart episodes, and
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he had a quadruple bypass surgery in eighty eight. Those
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are no joke, but it didn't slow him down. And
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he you know, George H. W. Bush, George you know
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Bush one made the Secretary of Dadians Yeah, Daddy Bush,
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Daddy Bush. Yeah, made him the Secretary of Defense and
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he was approved ninety two to zero. That's wild to me.
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Yeah, tough one that would never.
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Happen now, No, not like that. I mean we definitely
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have a bunch of Dems who would still vote for him.
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Now, oh yeah, we know exactly who betterman?
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Who better man?
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Is he?
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What a creepy he's on the list. He's on the
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list for sure. We'll wait till he loses his next election.
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And that happen. Yeah. Yeah.
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So when he was Secretary of Defense, he coordinated the
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nineteen eighty nine invasion of Panama, which apparently was called
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Operation just Cause, but I've been calling it Operation just cuz.
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Yes, that's what I hear.
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Yes, And then the US government this will all sound
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familiar to people. The US government claimed that it was
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self defense, total legal justification for going in there and
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invading them, and critics were like, hmm, that's actually quite
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illegal under international law, and the government was like, no, no,
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if we do it, it's legal. M So thanks.
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of a good invasion.
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Oh no, no, he really he had a boner for those.
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He definitely had a boner for those. But he needs
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to be careful his heart.
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His heart. I gotta don't get on the pills, dick.
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Uh yeah, watch your heart, dude. He also led in
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nineteen so that the Panama one wraps up in like
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January ninety, just in time for them to start their
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Operation Desert Shield Desert Storm in Iraq. Yeah, which George
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Bush Senior was so proud of that. He gave Dick
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Cheney the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Love it because nothing
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says freedom like a war.
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Yeah, like bombing other people.
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It's so cool, so cool.
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Yeah, Happy Veterans Day. Sorry everybody, Sorry veterans, sorry everyone.
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Yeah. After all of that, he thought about running for
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president again, and he like traveled to like a lot
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of the states and was testing this out. But again
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zero good ideas and negative charisma and people were like,
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you're you frightened me? No, thank you?
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Yeah, you look you look old. I'm not voting for you.
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How old are you?
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Eighty?
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He's like, I'm actually forty five. I don't know. He
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might have been fifty by then, right, yeah, but but
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he looks so much older.
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Yeah, I'm so much older.
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Like you're not going to survive like the first.
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Yeah he had her heart attacks? Yeah, why would they
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think that? So he instead joins Halliburton, which is a
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oil and for him, yeah, where he makes a ship
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ton of money and we're going to have more on
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that a little bit. I suspect. I guess George W.
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Bush asked Cheney to help him vet people. Yes, this
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is the slot and Janey's like, what about me?
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Yes, No, apparently he brought two binders full of other
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prospects and they're, oh, I guess it will be you.
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Yeah, what a coincidence.
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He's painting a landscape, George W.
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Yeah, He's like, yeah, okay, paint.
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He didn't, dude, George W.
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Bush never wanted to be president.
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No, this is this is the sad part, Like he
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should have just he should have just gone with his
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his heart an artist. But you know what, the family
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didn't want that for him. Yeah, or just be a
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baseball owner, that's all he wanted.
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Yeah, families, don't let your kids grow up to be president.
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Like if they don't want to.
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They don't want it, don't let them.
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Yeah. So Cheney gets in there and just he basically
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he's running the joint. Yeah, Bush is. I mean it's
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kind of similar to baby what we have going right now,
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where Trump's not really running things, but Stephen Miller is, Yeah.
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Jd Vance isn't doing shit.
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No. I was like, no, jd Vance is, no Cheney.
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I don't know, No, he is definitely not. He's too
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busy trying to ooh, are.
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You going to say it? Are you going to say it.
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He's too busy trying to be Charlie Kirk.
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Yes, but that's a nice way of saying it.
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Yeah, allegedly, Yeah, allegedly, so that we, uh we start
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getting into all of his uh super cool.
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Wars and shit. And that's where my friend Aaron here
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is going to jump in.
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Yeah. God, let's see. I'm just gonna read off these
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notes because it's a lot. Yeah. Uh So, the funny
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thing is we keep talking about his age, but yeah,
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he was sixty when he became VP, although he was
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twenty years older. He became w's closest advisor and a
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dominant player in shaping policy. Frightening, We just stop that,
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and it's they're still using his policy. Uh. Cheney advocated
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an aggressive new foreign policy, which is uh me, threats
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would be met with swift preemptive action. No longer would
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the US wait for an enemy strike. He helped sell
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the Iraq war.
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Uh yes he did.
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And I was gonna say, even though all of that,
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you know, they're like, oh Osama bin Laden was architect
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for nine to eleven, the US did go after the
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Taliban defeated the Taliban in quotes Yep Ben Lauden goes
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to Pakistan and then all of a sudden they go
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after sintam USI.
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Yeah, they're like while we're here, since we're here, like
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maybe we just maybe we just get him. We'll just yeah,
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why not?
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I mean I was reading all this, Sonya, and I'm like,
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what a load of shit? How did this happen?
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Yeah?
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Don't well, because what's crazy is.
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We all had not we all because I don't think
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we should lump ourselves in here. There used to be
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a lot of trust in the government. Well they know
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what they're doing, like they wouldn't do blank if. And
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then Nixon kind of eroded that, right, and then Rigan
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kind of built it back up, and I think George w.
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And Cheney like cashed in on that. It was like,
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well they must know, you know, they had, but they
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they don't. They just wanted him.
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They just they just did it. Yeah, they went instead
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of beIN laden, they went after Saddam.
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This is easier, you guys, Come on, we can't do
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hard things.
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And he said in an interview like, oh, it's gonna
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be easy. I'm of course, yeah, of course, this I'm
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not direct quote quote unquote, but he really did think
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it was going to be a short war. Yeah, and
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I don't know what that even means.
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I don't know at all.
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And then the US ended up being in Iraq for
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eight years, Iraq eight years, and then more than thirty
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four hundred troops were killed and thirty two thousand were
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wounded over that. Yeah.
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Yeah, real short dick, so short dick.
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I I always wonder like he got us into that mess. Yeah,
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he being the figurehead of it. Why didn't we just
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charge him the money it costs to be their free year?
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You could afford it, probably, Yeah, I mean he was
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making a shit ton of money. Yeah, at the same.
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Time could have been given a like a bill that.
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Would have been lovely. We just don't do We don't
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do that here, No, we know, maybe we should. Like
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they hired a lot of his connections to do business
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over there. He made you know, he still had stocks
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in Haliburton at the time. Like he made a lot
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of money off of this, and that was a huge
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conflict of interest. But nobody did shit about it.
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No one did shit about it.
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No, And it's worse now, obviously, but it was terrible then.
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Yeah, And I actually want to go back to to
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say when he was Secretary of Defense. That's when his
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Saddam Hussein boner like happened.
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It lasted more than eight hours. Well that's why the
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heart was so bad decades. Yes, that's a long boner.
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That's a long time to have a boner.
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Are you gonna?
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Is this gonna be okay for broadcast? We're allowed to
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say next, are we are we gonna get blacklisted?
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Now? That's fine.
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I'm fine with.
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That, I say now, and like we aren't anyways.
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Like I'm not already gonna get one star reviews just
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for people are like I love Dick Cheney.
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Yeah, I love Dick. So I don't know if I'm
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jumping over too quickly. But we have to talk about
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Scooter Libby, Yes, we do, and what a shit show
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that was. So It's chief of staff and top advisor
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Lewis Scooter Libby was a grown man, grown ass man,
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going by Scooter Wow. Yes, was convicted of perjury an
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investigation into the leaking of the name of Covert CIA
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operative Valerie Plane. Mm hmmm, which I still feel we're
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feeling the ripple effect of.
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Because that was some bullshit. It was some super bullshit.
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And not a great not a great thing for her
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or her.
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Career, and you know it's her fault though it's totally
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it's always it's always the woman's fault, Like how was
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she dressed as she was working undercover?
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I mean yeah, But the funny, not so funny thing
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is is Dick was really trying to Dick was trying
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to push Bush Junior to pardon Scooter on his way out,
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and Bush was like, nope, no, thank you.
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That is wild to me because Bush did whatever he
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wanted the entire time, but that was the bridge too far.
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He was like no, And I'm like, maybe he just
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didn't like Scooter. Maybe Scooter sucks, or maybe he's like
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he's a grown man who calls himself Scooter, so fuck
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that guy.
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Or maybe he had a thing for Valerie. I don't know.
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Maybe I don't know.
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I mean, maybe he cared about his legacy and how
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that would look.
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Maybe did, but I was like, does he care about
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that stuff?
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I don't know? Or maybe he just wanted to fuck
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Dick over right.
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I It's it like, yeah, a lot of the reading
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and videos I was watching like that second term, wasn't
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they're at odds?
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Yeah, so yeah, Dick wants to run the show.
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And sorry, Dick, I'm a child, I am, but child
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Bush Bush is in charge. Oh boy. And then if
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that's not enough, oh god. So I think everyone knows,
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but if you don't, Cheney accidentally I put in quotes,
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he did, I guess accidentally shot his friend in the face. Oops.
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He says it was an act. I mean I guess
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it would be an accident. But that's a really horrible accident.
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Yeah, its like a seasoned hunter.
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Yeah, so.
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What's happening?
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I don't know. I don't know how you shoot your
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friend in the face. You're really not paying attention.
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No, Allegedly the sun got in his eyes, get some sunglasses, Like,
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what the fuck, it's a little too sonny out. So
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he shot wounded his friend, attorney Harry Whittington, who was
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long known for helping build a Republican party in Texas.
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Well, that's his reward, by right.
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I'm like, well, shit happen sometimes. So shot him in
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two thousand and six quail hunting in Texas. The weird
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thing is is that the story didn't come out for
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two days, and like that kind of thing. I was
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reading around the interwebs and they're like, normally you report
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that right away, you think in normal times, yeah, right away,
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and then you know Cheney, it took him days to
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even talk about it, and of course he talked to
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Fox News about it, so.
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Well, that's cool. I'm sure they dug deep and asked
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really important questions, right, I'm sure it was his friend wearing.
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Well, allegedly he was wearing what he's supposed to wear
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and just dicked and see him. So there you go,
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see him. But yes, I mean, Harry was seventy eight
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when that happened. Jesus and he.
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Survived, damn damn.
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Yeah. So yeah, Cheney had a weird uh like late
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late in life. I don't know what you would call
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it out like coming out of being VP. Yeah, weird
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time coming out of it.
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Yeah, well, he.
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Like time wasn't kind to him or I don't know
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what was happening, the universe was universing, I don't know.
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Yeah, he came out and I mean he was just
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all on Obama's ass always like it was constant, like
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he's gonna get us all killed, He's gonna do I'm like, bitch,
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that was what you were doing, Like you're projecting much.
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But he like he had another heart attack right after
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he left the White House. Yes, and then like three
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years after that he had a heart transplant and that
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stuck apparently, But he wrote and then he wrote a
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bunch of books with people. So he wrote one with
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his daughter Liz, and all it is is like shitting
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all over Obama. Like that's all. It's just I read
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a review and because I was like, I'm not reading
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the book. Nobody has time for that. They sound fucking boring.
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But you know, he wrote, like the damage the Baraco
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Obama has done to our ability to defend ourselves as appalling.
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It is without historical precedent. He has set us upon
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a path of decline so steep that it's reversing the
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direction that it will not be easy. Like none of
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those things happen because Obama. It all happened because of you, dickhead.
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Did he not, dick Did he not celebrate Osama bin
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Ladaen being caught by the Obama administration?
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Probably not, or he probably just lies to himself and
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thinks that he did it.
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00:27:42.839 --> 00:27:44.720
Yeah, he probably thought he was in the room.
489
00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:47.079
Yeah, He's like, I was in the room when it happened.
490
00:27:47.359 --> 00:27:47.960
I was there.
491
00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:51.759
I was there I'm everywhere because I'm a million years old.
492
00:27:52.359 --> 00:27:53.680
I am father time.
493
00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:58.680
It's just the every review I read of that book,
494
00:27:58.720 --> 00:28:03.799
and it was called in My Time, a personal and
495
00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:09.079
political memoir. All the reviews were like, basically, sure Jan.
496
00:28:09.599 --> 00:28:11.839
It was the equivalent of the sure Jan meme. It
497
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:16.839
was saying it was like selective history, unconvincing, you know
498
00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:21.160
all of that. So it didn't get good reviews. Young
499
00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:25.559
people now probably only know Dick Cheney from either when
500
00:28:25.640 --> 00:28:28.160
Keiki Palmer made him famous by saying she didn't know
501
00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:32.920
who he was. Do you remember this in twenty nineteen,
502
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:36.680
she's doing that like vanity fair light detector test. They
503
00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:39.400
show her a picture of Dick Cheney and she says,
504
00:28:39.799 --> 00:28:41.839
I hate to say it, and I hope I don't
505
00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:44.599
sound ridiculous, but I don't know who that man is.
506
00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:49.880
And then she says, sorry to this man. So he
507
00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:52.400
was a meme for a while. Sorry to this man.
508
00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:57.960
That is incredible. I love that. Yeah, I love her
509
00:28:58.119 --> 00:28:59.599
for him. I love that for him.
510
00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:04.200
And then there was a movie called Weis Oh Yeah,
511
00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:06.160
with Christian Bale. I didn't see it.
512
00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:06.680
I didn't.
513
00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:11.559
I didn't want to spend two hours with a character
514
00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:14.680
like Dick Cheney or Christian Bale to be honest, although
515
00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:19.240
he's a good actor. He's a good actor, but yeah.
516
00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:21.599
I think we started it and like we're just kind
517
00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:23.039
of not interested.
518
00:29:23.319 --> 00:29:27.880
Yeah, try it. But Christian Bale actually won a Golden
519
00:29:27.880 --> 00:29:30.519
Globe for it, and he said that he was inspired
520
00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:35.640
to buy Satan to play Dick Cheney. So I'll give
521
00:29:35.720 --> 00:29:37.000
him his snaps for that.
522
00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:38.519
All right, Christian Bale.
523
00:29:38.720 --> 00:29:44.839
Yeah. And then after Trump won quote unquote the second time,
524
00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:52.200
oh last year, that one, that's when like he starts
525
00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:57.559
taking advantage of Dick Cheney's playbook the whole Uh, if
526
00:29:57.599 --> 00:30:01.359
the president does it, it's not illegal shit. And that's
527
00:30:01.400 --> 00:30:03.839
how we've ended up where we are. He's like firing
528
00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:08.480
all these people, He's the Department of Education doesn't exist anymore.
529
00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:11.200
He's just doing whatever he wants. This was all laid
530
00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:15.039
out by Dick Cheney. And then Dick Cheney's like, I think,
531
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:20.039
you know, this is terrible. And then the media was
532
00:30:20.119 --> 00:30:24.240
like Dick Cheney isn't going to vote for a Republican
533
00:30:24.480 --> 00:30:27.559
and then the Democrats like fell all over themselves to
534
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:32.119
like like win over like people that like Dick Cheney,
535
00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:34.519
I guess, and hopefully they would vote for Harris, and
536
00:30:34.559 --> 00:30:37.240
all it did was alienate all the other people that
537
00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:39.880
would have voted for Oh, it's such a cluster cluck.
538
00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:43.559
Yes, do you think Liz had a conversation with her
539
00:30:43.640 --> 00:30:47.400
dad and was like, uh, Trump is using your playbook,
540
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:50.279
by the way, Like, do you think they not? You
541
00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:51.200
don't think they had the count?
542
00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:54.200
Probably not, but she probably did tell him like, hey,
543
00:30:54.559 --> 00:30:57.160
that guy Trump is trying to kill me. He's trying
544
00:30:57.160 --> 00:31:00.440
to get her killed. Yes, so I know, oh you know,
545
00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:05.240
surely loves his kids. Yeah, yeah, I'm like, I don't know.
546
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:11.240
Maybe he just even I was reading that Bush well
547
00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:14.960
w would make fun of his non riz like he
548
00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:17.599
like they would call him Darth Vader.
549
00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:19.319
Yeah he was.
550
00:31:20.480 --> 00:31:21.720
Wow did he live so long?
551
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:23.000
I don't know.
552
00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:24.319
Many hearts?
553
00:31:24.680 --> 00:31:28.880
I so many hearts, so many heart attacks?
554
00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:30.400
Yeah, I don't know.
555
00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:34.799
I mean even his heart was like no, no, no.
556
00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:38.920
Trying trying to to save us really because.
557
00:31:39.119 --> 00:31:42.680
Yeah, I know, thank you to this heart, you.
558
00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:43.680
Finally did your job.
559
00:31:43.799 --> 00:31:48.279
No, yes, well he died the day before election day
560
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:51.839
this year, So November thirty was eighty four, but now
561
00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:54.240
and he looked one hundred and eighty four. But he
562
00:31:54.359 --> 00:31:57.759
was eighty four and it was complications from pneumonia, but
563
00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:00.119
also he had like heart disease.
564
00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:04.039
And well, yeah, I know. Even the new heart was
565
00:32:04.079 --> 00:32:08.400
like nope, the new heart was like why yeah, no
566
00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:11.000
got in. There was no did this happened?
567
00:32:11.559 --> 00:32:14.279
No? So he's gone now, which is why we're doing
568
00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:16.599
this episode now, because he can't do creepy things. But
569
00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:21.960
the groundwork he laid it's there. Like one of the
570
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:24.119
first episodes we ever did of what a creep was
571
00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:29.200
about Newt Gingrich. Fucking hate new Gingrich. I hate him.
572
00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:34.160
He's still alive, yeah, yeah.
573
00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:37.079
But so much of what we see now too, is
574
00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:39.519
like he laid the groundwork for stuff like this too,
575
00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:43.440
the like name Colleen, all of that, all this bullshit
576
00:32:43.559 --> 00:32:46.359
that used to be like we wouldn't vote for someone
577
00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:48.480
like that back in the day, and now it's like
578
00:32:48.759 --> 00:32:52.599
you could just say whatever and someone will vote for you.
579
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:55.640
I don't I don't understand it. But they made this monster,
580
00:32:56.440 --> 00:32:59.359
yes exactly, and people like Dick Cheney.
581
00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:01.599
Yep, they did it. They did it.
582
00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:05.480
Karl Rove, Yeah, Carl Rove. Oh, he's definitely on the list.
583
00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:06.680
I hate him.
584
00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:11.519
Yeah, I hate him too. I wrote back when ask
585
00:33:11.599 --> 00:33:15.039
your grandparents about blogging kids. Back when I used to blog,
586
00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:19.000
I remember Carl Rove split from his wife, and I
587
00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:22.160
wrote a blog post that was like, single ladies, don't
588
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:24.599
date Carl Rove. Whatever you do, don't date him. He
589
00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:28.440
deserves to be like a lonely old, miserable man. And
590
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:32.240
I got so much hate, like people going into into
591
00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:36.759
this blog with the nastiest comments like defending Karl Rove.
592
00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:39.480
I was like, what a bunch of unfuckable losers.
593
00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:42.680
Yes, oh, come on, it.
594
00:33:42.599 --> 00:33:45.759
Was forever ago. That was forever ago, because again blogging.
595
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:48.519
But I feel like you can revive that one.
596
00:33:48.920 --> 00:33:51.000
I think it's time to bring blogs back. We can
597
00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:52.200
control it, you know.
598
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:55.200
Yeah. I mean that's what substack is and people love it.
599
00:33:55.400 --> 00:34:00.960
That's true blogging. Join me over at WordPress, everybody. I'm
600
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:02.319
not on substack, so.
601
00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:05.599
Join me over or whatever whatever works for you. That's
602
00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:06.279
what I say.
603
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:08.440
Yeah, if whatever works for you.
604
00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:11.599
Now you could write something about Charlie Kirk's wife what's
605
00:34:11.599 --> 00:34:13.079
her name? Because she's single?
606
00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:16.320
Now, oh, Eric goes yeahbe not for long?
607
00:34:16.440 --> 00:34:16.760
Yeah?
608
00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:18.079
Or legedly.
609
00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:23.280
Nobody puts their fingers through hair if no doing each
610
00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:23.800
other like.
611
00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:27.599
No, I'm sorry, No, you are correct.
612
00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:28.559
I'm side.
613
00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:32.760
I'm no, we can, we can go sideways. I want
614
00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:37.079
hundreds percent believe that that's what's happening. Of course, yes,
615
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:39.840
they're totally fucking Yes. Vance is going to leave his
616
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:42.920
wife and he's going to hook up with it with her.
617
00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:45.960
That's what that is what I believe is going to happen.
618
00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:49.840
And in those pleather pants, whatever the fuck that was
619
00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:54.159
the happiest widow. Yeah.
620
00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:58.320
Like, I'm like, she's skipping down that yellow brick road totally.
621
00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:02.679
I'm like, it's weird that it's weird behavior. Look, I
622
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:07.760
know grief makes people do weird things, but this is weird.
623
00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:12.199
Like red flag? Where's my red flag? Here it is?
624
00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:13.440
Do you have one?
625
00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:17.039
Yeah? Here we go red flag. I wave that it
626
00:35:17.079 --> 00:35:21.280
works sometimes red flag. I love that, so that her
627
00:35:21.320 --> 00:35:25.480
behavior is red flag? Oh god. Anyways, you need to
628
00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:28.480
come back for like one of the bonus episodes where
629
00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:29.880
we just talked about the news.
630
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:30.559
Can't wait?
631
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:33.440
Yeah, that would be super fun. I know you have
632
00:35:33.480 --> 00:35:36.199
a you have a non creep for us too.
633
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:38.639
I have the opposite of Dick.
634
00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:44.039
What is the opposite of Dick?
635
00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:47.360
I have mom Donnie, who's going to be the next mayor.
636
00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:47.880
Of New York.
637
00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:53.719
It's amazing. How happy were you anyone? Oh boy tears
638
00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:57.000
really yeah, like this like feeling. I texted you and
639
00:35:57.039 --> 00:35:58.320
I was like, what is this feeling?
640
00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:02.519
How I haven't had this in a long time?
641
00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:06.159
I know this like hopeful feeling. Like, first of all,
642
00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:07.639
what a delightful campaign?
643
00:36:08.199 --> 00:36:12.840
Yeah? He ran like just fun fun, joyful also just
644
00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:14.519
like not scary.
645
00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:17.920
Yeah, joyful is a great word for it. And like, hey,
646
00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:22.480
isn't New York cool? We could make it cooler, which
647
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:25.320
is the opposite of all the other campaigns, which you know,
648
00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:29.079
which is like New York is scary, aarmongering, Yeah, like
649
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:32.480
you can't even ride the subway all this stuff. And
650
00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:35.519
he's like, no, like all New York's dope, Like let's
651
00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:36.159
make it cool.
652
00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:39.800
I mean even his font was joyful, you know what
653
00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:41.639
I mean, like like looking at it.
654
00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:46.679
And he was just so like every like trashy thing
655
00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:49.000
they threw at him, he was like what.
656
00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:52.880
And so smart about it. Yeah, just like had the
657
00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:56.920
pop culture references here there everywhere, like you just couldn't
658
00:36:57.519 --> 00:36:59.599
hurt him, which I loved. And He's like, I speaks
659
00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:02.320
about the things. You say whatever you want about me,
660
00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:06.679
but I just want everyone to have like free free childcare.
661
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:10.119
Yeah, that's all I want. Yeah, he's like, imagine we
662
00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:12.679
could have free childcare and you could ride the bus
663
00:37:12.679 --> 00:37:15.400
for free, and and.
664
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:18.480
The one percent gets taxed as well as corporations.
665
00:37:18.639 --> 00:37:21.599
Yes, all he wants for New York and they had
666
00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:25.159
so they have this candidate who's running and like the
667
00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:28.039
worst people in New York are like if he wins,
668
00:37:28.119 --> 00:37:30.480
I'm moving. And I was like, oh my god, don't
669
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:34.519
threaten New York with a good time. I'm jealous. I
670
00:37:34.599 --> 00:37:36.760
wish we had a candidate like that here in the
671
00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:40.119
Bay Area. That would make the worst people want to
672
00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:42.639
move away. It would fix the housing crisis like that.
673
00:37:43.079 --> 00:37:45.880
Yeah, I mean you saw Deborah Messing, right, you saw
674
00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:48.159
that Deborah Messy.
675
00:37:48.639 --> 00:37:54.159
Yes, she had a total breakdown. It was embarrassing, Like what.
676
00:37:54.199 --> 00:37:55.360
Happened to you? Are you okay?
677
00:37:55.679 --> 00:37:59.960
She's not she's not okay, Like I almost with a joke.
678
00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:07.760
I didn't know it was real. Yeah, it's a that's embarrassing, embarrassing.
679
00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:10.960
But all these people like Dave Portnoy from like, oh
680
00:38:11.000 --> 00:38:13.679
I mood, take my office somewhere else, good bye.
681
00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:14.679
Yeah, see you later.
682
00:38:15.079 --> 00:38:16.000
Take it to Florida.
683
00:38:16.559 --> 00:38:22.079
Yeah, just I the pearl clushing again? Is I love it.
684
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:25.360
I actually have a friend that was that waits tables
685
00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:27.199
in New York and she was waiting tables that night
686
00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:33.719
and had a group of women who were affluent. And
687
00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:35.679
the way that she found out them I'm Donnie one
688
00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:39.800
was that they're like, oh he won. It was very
689
00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:44.000
oh hurt about it, and so my friend couldn't even
690
00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:47.239
like join into the like yay. She's like, oh, these
691
00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:48.000
are assholes.
692
00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:53.320
Oh that I'm serving. Yeah, they need to like they
693
00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:56.599
need a make America Great hat or something and they
694
00:38:56.599 --> 00:38:58.239
can wear so we can identify them.
695
00:38:58.320 --> 00:38:59.119
Oh, just wear it.
696
00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:01.880
Yeah, that's why when I see people in the hats
697
00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:03.360
and all, thanks, Yeah, at.
698
00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:05.760
Least I know who you are. But I don't know
699
00:39:05.800 --> 00:39:07.360
he's He's not a creep to.
700
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:11.559
Me, He's not a creep. All the things he wants
701
00:39:11.599 --> 00:39:15.360
to do. I'm like, those things are awesome, and people
702
00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:18.119
are like, they can't happen. Can we try? How about
703
00:39:18.159 --> 00:39:18.800
we try?
704
00:39:19.079 --> 00:39:25.000
Yes? I'm also talking with other people about Monday Mondami.
705
00:39:25.079 --> 00:39:28.320
Oh my god, mom, Donnie, what am I see? Whah?
706
00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:31.559
Is that that guy Jojo Siwah what was his name?
707
00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:34.800
I don't even know what the red Beret, Yeah, just
708
00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:37.719
call him red Beret Curtis se Wah is that his
709
00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:40.840
name right? Not Jojo Siwa?
710
00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:41.039
That?
711
00:39:41.400 --> 00:39:45.159
No, I know, fascinating campaign if that was true.
712
00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:50.000
I mean, she would be more interesting. But but even
713
00:39:50.119 --> 00:39:52.639
people that I talk to that I feel might, like
714
00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:55.239
Mom Donnie, are just kind of like, well, we'll see,
715
00:39:55.280 --> 00:39:57.280
And I'm like, well, what does that mean? Can we
716
00:39:57.320 --> 00:40:00.360
have to wait for like one week? Can I? Yeah?
717
00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:01.400
I hope for the best.
718
00:40:01.639 --> 00:40:05.199
Yes, wouldn't that be lovely? So it would be nice
719
00:40:05.239 --> 00:40:07.199
if we there was like a whole day where we
720
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:09.239
could just like not think about politics.
721
00:40:09.559 --> 00:40:11.639
That was also that I would love that day.
722
00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:16.760
Just so long I don't even remember, just even like
723
00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:21.400
a work day, like give me eight hours, right, eight
724
00:40:21.559 --> 00:40:24.519
whole hours where we don't have to think about So.
725
00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:27.800
Is today in the day they're taking away all of
726
00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:28.400
our health care?
727
00:40:28.559 --> 00:40:28.719
No?
728
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:30.880
Not today? Okay? Maybe tomorrow?
729
00:40:31.079 --> 00:40:31.280
Yeah?
730
00:40:32.119 --> 00:40:32.199
Right?
731
00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:33.880
How's my bodily autonomy?
732
00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:34.199
No?
733
00:40:34.280 --> 00:40:35.320
Not today? Okay?
734
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Cool?
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Cool? Yep, everything's super cool and normal here?
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Which states hate women? Oh yeah, cool? And a lot
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of them and anyone that's not white, I know, you know.
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Are not a creeps are usually a little bit more hopeful.
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But he's great.
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I love him. That's a great pick and I was
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happy to see him win.
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And I think I hope he inspires more candidates like that,
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Like we need for so we need younger people, please,
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younger people, save us from ourselves. And just yeah, the
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hopeful it just I know, like the constant, like America
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is a big shit show right now, but there's awesome
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shit here too. Could we just try to make it better,
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right instead of trying to make it worse for everybody?
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And again we talked about it, stop the fear of mongering. Yeah,
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there's bad shit that's happening in big cities, small cities,
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little towns, whatever, But there's also great things. Yeah, always
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happening always, So let's talk about that.
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Yeah, free buses man, Yeah that would be lovely.
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Why not. If he can just do a couple things,
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it'll be great.
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It will be I agree too. Thanks for talking about
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Dick with me.
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I mean it's a little complicated, but I'm here for it.
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Yeah. Normally formally, welcome to our new podcast, Dick Talk.
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Yay tell people a little bit about bitch talk please.
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Oh wow. Bitch talk Man hatched about twelve years ago
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and it was just a couple of gals around a
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kitchen table talking about pop culture shit, and it's just
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evolved into and to rad interviews with filmmakers and actors
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and folks that are change makers. And my co host
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Ange and I go to Sundance in south By, Southwest.
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And do the coolest stuff.
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We talked to some cool folks and then we also
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do things called basic bitches, like one of them in
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the last two months was in a Costco. I love
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that because my co host loves Costco at it. I
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like it, but it gives me anxiety because it's yeah,
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so I'm like, if we go when it opens, I'm cool,
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but I cannot go like midday or later, Like yeah,
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so early. But it was really fun and apparently people
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love that episode. So if you want to find us,
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start with the Costco episode.
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There you go. I was listening to your most recent
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Basic b Oh. Guys, we're talking about dating and all
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the dating horror stories that you hear at the bar,
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and I'm like, yeah, that sounds sounds vaccurate.
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It's a it's an interesting thing to watch ye work
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at a bar and first dates or you have serial daters. Yes,
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I have a guy that brings in different girls almost
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every day of the week. I'm like, oh, that happens,
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and I always like to say, oh, hey, nice to
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see you again when they're with a new gal. Oops,
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my bad, I'm by head.
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And then you're like, girl, run run a little bit,
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a little.
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Bit, a little bit, but yeah, thanks, thanks for listening.
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So of course I love your podcast. I think it's
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super and I love the interviews you get. And I know,
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like recently you got to go to like the Freaky
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Tales premiere. I was insanely jealous. Oh well, guess what.
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I actually didn't get to go and got to go.
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Oh I was busy that night. So she's the one
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who got to yell I love you to Pedro Pascal
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and gave a thicker I mean whatever, and yeah, yeah,
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but yeah it's fine for her.
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Fine, I love that for her.
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Yeah, but she had a good time. Did you watch
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Freaky Teals? Yeah?
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I loved it, such a good one. I loved it.
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It's like one of my favorite movies this year.
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Same and not just because of Pedro, not because of Oakland,
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just it's just a good.
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Fun It's just a good movie. I've recommended it to
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multiple people who've told me how much they like it.
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So yeah, yeah, it was a good one.
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Yeah yeah, that's bitch talk in a nutshell.
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So go check out bitch talk and thank you everybody
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for listening again. Follow us on your preferred social media,
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but we're only on blue Sky and sometimes Instagram, and
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you can find me also at the Soniashow dot com,
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which is a blog. It is a blog that's okay,
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And I'm on Instagram and I'm on blue Sky at
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the Sonya shows, so definitely hit me up there and
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send us requests. This is super fun. We'll be back
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in a couple weeks with a new episode. I don't
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know what it's going to be yet. And then of
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course Aaron, we have it here recorded that she said
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she would come back for a bonus episode, so we'll
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do that. Hell yeah all right, So everybody, as Margo
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would say, be safe, be kind, wash your hands, and
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don't be a creep. Thank you for listening to us
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talk about creeps. You can follow us at What a
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Creep Podcast on Facebook and Instagram, but don't follow.
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Us too closely.
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You can email us your creepy stories at what a
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Creeppodcast at gmail dot com.
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But please keep your dick thixt to yourself.
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Something about something that's something about that's not something about
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something to get something an that's something that's nothing, that's
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something about that
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Welcome to What a Creep, the podcast that talks about
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creeps of the past and the present. My name is
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Sonia Mansfield and joining me for this episode is my friend,
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the brilliant Aaron Limb from Bitch Talk podcast. Hello, Welcome
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to the party.
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Pal, Hello, Hello, how are you?
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I am getting by the world is worlding, but.
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Oh it's worlding hard.
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It is. We are going to make so many dick jokes, y'all,
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So let me get through the housekeeping and we will
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talk about that asshole Dick Cheney here in one minute.
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So number one, here's your warning. Oh, I already swore
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we use salty language on the show. If you don't
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like that, maybe this show isn't for you. You can
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go to our basic Facebook page and be like, I
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don't leggy when they swear, but I never go there
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because we have a private Facebook group. You can, you know,
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answer a few questions not to be a creep and
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we'll let you in. And it's the best thing on Facebook.
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It's the only reason I go on Facebook is to
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be in this group and we talk about creeps and
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non creeps and we share pictures of our pets. If
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you want to know more, about the show. Visit the
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website What a creeppodcast dot com. You have links to
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all of our past episodes and you'll notice in all
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those posts that we have show notes. Because we source
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everything we do, We're not making this stuff up. We
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want to give people credit for the work that they do.
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Our friends in the media doing the good work. If
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you want to dig dig a little deeper on this creep,
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start with our show notes. Fabulous place to start. You
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can follow us on Blue Sky and yes, I'm on Instagram,
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but What a Creep doesn't spend a lot of time
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on there, so go to Blue Sky, or you can
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email me at what a creeppod at gmail dot com
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and send me your suggestions because we love requests. If
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there's a creep you want us to talk about, send
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it our way. Dick Cheney's been a request multiple times,
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but we were waiting till he died so that he
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wasn't doing more creepy things and we could just end
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the episode and not have to update.
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Waiting until he died.
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Yeah, we have a couple of people I would like, like,
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why don't you cover Trump? And I'm like, cause he
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does creepy shit every day, like we have to wait.
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Y'all are confident. Y'all are confident. We're confident.
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You can also go to our Patreon page where we
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have bonus content. And I've been putting out a newsletter
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because without Margo, like, I haven't really been doing the
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like bonus where we talk about the news. But my
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sister has volunteered. So if you want to hear the
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Sister show, go to the Patreon. Uh. Are we ready
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to make some Dick jokes? Yep? All right, I've got
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a few sources for this episode. We've got AP News, CNN,
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The Guardian, The New York Times, Wikipedia, What have you
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got going on your end?
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I was in pr PBS News Hour.
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Perfect, everybody check those out. Yes, I will introduce this asshole. Sure,
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I'll give give y'all some background and then we'll get
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into the really juicy stuff. So, for some reason, you
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don't know who Dick Cheney is.
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Lucky you, Yeah, what kind of world does that?
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I know? You must be blessed. Dick Cheney was the
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White House Chief of Staff for President Gerald Ford. He
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served in the House of Representatives for Wyoming from seventy
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nine to eighty nine. He was the Secretary of Defense
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for a while for George H. W. Bush. Then he
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was vice president for George W. Bush from two thousand
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and one two thousand and nine. During that time, he
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rebranded torture as quote enhanced interrogation, argued if the president
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does something, then it's legal. Thanks Dick, Thanks.
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Let it Dick. I know he.
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Pushed our country into a war that killed a lot
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of civilians and service members in Iraq. He also personally
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profited from that war. We're going to get into it.
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It's almost quaint compared to what we're dealing with now.
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But I mean some may say the good old days, Yeah,
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not me, but not me.
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He recently got a really nice redemption arc from the
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media and society because he did the bare fucking minimum
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and announced that he was going to vote for Kamala
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Harris in the twenty twenty four election. And then he
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denounced Trump is unfit for the oval office and that
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he's a grave threat to demo your democracy because he's
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going to use the playbook that Dick created and break
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every law when you're president because they just let you
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do it. Yep, thanks for nothing, Dick.
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He he wrote that into fruition basically.
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Yes, he did m people like Dick Cheney, like paved
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the way for what we're dealing with. Now. Oh yeah,
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his redemption arc didn't work on us.
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Clutching his pearls. Yes, he was clutching his pearls.
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I'm offended.
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I'm offended by this white man. Yes, it's playing by
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my roles.
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Yes, exactly who where did he get these awful ideas? Oops?
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Oops?
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I wrote them? Oh and then he just pieced out
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on his peace out good luck to you?
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Well, you know, and then the other other bush is
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just painting, I know, fucking whatever. I know an artist.
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Now, yeah he's useless. He was useless.
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Then, yes, useless.
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Yes, so let's start at the beginning of this.
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Yeah.
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Richard Bruce Cheney was born January thirtieth, nineteen forty one
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and Lincoln, Nebraska. His father was Richard Cheney. He worked
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for the Department of Agriculture. His mother, Marjorie, was a
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softball star in the thirties. That's very cool, like, get it, Marjorie.
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Yeah, she seemed brad. Yeah, what happened? I know what happened?
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I know, well, I think I think.
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Uh, you know, it happened.
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Yeah, exactly, did happened. It happens. Look, well, look we've
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all been trapped by some dick.
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It happens, It does happen.
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So in high school, Dick Cheney was captain of the
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football team and president of the senior class. But he
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wasn't a top student. I just needed to throw that
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in there. He didn't get good grades, y'all. Yea, His
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girlfriend Lynn was the homecoming queen. They got married in
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nineteen sixty four. They had two daughters, Liz and Mary.
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He entered Yale in nineteen fifty nine, again poor grades,
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flunked out twice, left after three semesters because he's a quitter.
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He's a quitter, y'all.
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He quit.
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Yes, it's sixty two or sorry. In sixty two, at
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the age of twenty one, he was convicted of drunk
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driving and then convicted again the following year.
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Didn't learn anything.
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No, third time's the charm. No, I don't think it
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happened a third time, but whatever.
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We don't know.
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Maybe maybe, But he decided to spend less time drinking
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and driving and go back to school, so he got
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a bachelor's, got a master's in political science at the
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University of Wyoming, and even though we were in a
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war at the time, he never served in the military.
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He got four deferments as a student. That's why he
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went back to school. I suspect timing is interesting, yes,
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which I would probably do the same thing. Who am
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I today?
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I ain't fighting for shit?
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Yeah. So he got four defer mints as a student,
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and he got one because he was married with children.
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So he got into politics in sixty nine and he
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was an intern for a congressman during the Nixon administration.
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Then he joined the staff of Donald Rumsfeld. It's Rummy, y'all.
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We're gonna get terrible.
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We're gonna get to him someday for Jay.
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Well, he's dead, right, isn't he Yeah?
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So there, yeah, he's done, so we can he will
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do again.
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Your patience isn't peccable.
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We're so good at this, I will say. Margot and
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where we would cover creeps and then they would die
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shortly after, and we were like, you're welcome, right, welcome society.
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Y'all did it?
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at the time was the Director of Office Economic Opportunity whatever. Yeah,
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and then Dick's like, I'm gonna hitch my wagon to
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this guy. So he, you know, Rumsfeld rises up and
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Dick just follows him along as Dick does, as Dick does.
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So Ramsfeld gets promoted to you know, some council. Dick
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joins it. He let's see, Rumsfeld became the White House
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chief of Staff and Dick became the deputy chief of staff,
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when Dick moved up and became chief of Staff of
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the White House at the time, the youngest to ever
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do it.
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He was, he was a baby. Yeah.
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The dude always looked like an old man though, always
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like Wilford Brimley. Yeah, that beat us beat us, always old.
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It always old. There's certain people like Wilford Brimley was
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one of them. He's like born an old man, yes, yes.
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Dick Cheney was always old yes. Home over anyways.
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Yeah, So Ford loses to Jimmy Carter spoilers for an
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election in nineteen seventy six. But he loses, and then
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Dick's like I'm going to head back to Washington and
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try not to shoot people in the face.
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He does that, and he gets a job in banking,
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and then he's like, I miss being in public office.
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He tries running, well, he does. He runs for House
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of Representative and during his campaign he has one of
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his many heart attacks that he has throughout his life.
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He somehow lived a very long life. Yes, really bad
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fucking heart.
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It is really. When I was saying that, I'm like, wow,
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it's really poetic.
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It's so poetic. So he had one of his patented
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heart attacks like he does.
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But young but young eight or something.
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like I assume it was like a pity vote. Everyone's like, oh,
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and they all vote for him because the dude has
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like no good ideas and he has like negative charisma.
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I don't oh zero riz zero riz, as the kids say.
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So he makes it to the House of Representatives, where
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he he's a huge dick. Surprise. He votes for prayer
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in school. He votes for restrictions on abortion. He votes
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against gun control and aids research and organized labor and
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welfare programs and spending for educating all of the good stuff.
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He didn't want us to recognize Martin Luther King's birthday.
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Like, you know, he voted against sanctions against South Africa
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for apartheid, like all the all the golden oldies, like
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the hits. Yeah, Dick was thumbs down on Dick. I mean,
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he really was such a dick always. I don't know
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it because he's born old. Yeah, he just made him grouchy,
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born looking like.
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A thumb born old.
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He had another one of his like heart episodes, and
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he had a quadruple bypass surgery in eighty eight. Those
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are no joke, but it didn't slow him down. And
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he you know, George H. W. Bush, George you know
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Bush one made the Secretary of Dadians Yeah, Daddy Bush,
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Daddy Bush. Yeah, made him the Secretary of Defense and
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he was approved ninety two to zero. That's wild to me.
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Happen now, No, not like that. I mean we definitely
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have a bunch of Dems who would still vote for him.
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Now, oh yeah, we know exactly who betterman?
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Who better man?
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Is he?
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What a creepy he's on the list. He's on the
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list for sure. We'll wait till he loses his next election.
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nineteen eighty nine invasion of Panama, which apparently was called
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Operation just Cause, but I've been calling it Operation just cuz.
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familiar to people. The US government claimed that it was
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self defense, total legal justification for going in there and
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invading them, and critics were like, hmm, that's actually quite
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illegal under international law, and the government was like, no, no,
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if we do it, it's legal. M So thanks.
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Yeah, he would never let facts get in the way
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of a good invasion.
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Oh no, no, he really he had a boner for those.
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He definitely had a boner for those. But he needs
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to be careful his heart.
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His heart. I gotta don't get on the pills, dick.
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Uh yeah, watch your heart, dude. He also led in
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nineteen so that the Panama one wraps up in like
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January ninety, just in time for them to start their
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Operation Desert Shield Desert Storm in Iraq. Yeah, which George
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Bush Senior was so proud of that. He gave Dick
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Cheney the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Love it because nothing
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says freedom like a war.
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Yeah, like bombing other people.
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It's so cool, so cool.
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Yeah, Happy Veterans Day. Sorry everybody, Sorry veterans, sorry everyone.
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Yeah. After all of that, he thought about running for
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president again, and he like traveled to like a lot
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of the states and was testing this out. But again
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zero good ideas and negative charisma and people were like,
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you're you frightened me? No, thank you?
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Yeah, you look you look old. I'm not voting for you.
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How old are you?
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Eighty?
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He's like, I'm actually forty five. I don't know. He
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might have been fifty by then, right, yeah, but but
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he looks so much older.
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Yeah, I'm so much older.
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Like you're not going to survive like the first.
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Yeah he had her heart attacks? Yeah, why would they
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think that? So he instead joins Halliburton, which is a
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oil and for him, yeah, where he makes a ship
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ton of money and we're going to have more on
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that a little bit. I suspect. I guess George W.
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Bush asked Cheney to help him vet people. Yes, this
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is the slot and Janey's like, what about me?
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Yes, No, apparently he brought two binders full of other
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prospects and they're, oh, I guess it will be you.
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Yeah, what a coincidence.
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He's painting a landscape, George W.
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Yeah, He's like, yeah, okay, paint.
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He didn't, dude, George W.
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Bush never wanted to be president.
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No, this is this is the sad part, Like he
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should have just he should have just gone with his
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his heart an artist. But you know what, the family
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didn't want that for him. Yeah, or just be a
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baseball owner, that's all he wanted.
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Yeah, families, don't let your kids grow up to be president.
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Like if they don't want to.
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They don't want it, don't let them.
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Yeah. So Cheney gets in there and just he basically
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he's running the joint. Yeah, Bush is. I mean it's
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kind of similar to baby what we have going right now,
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where Trump's not really running things, but Stephen Miller is, Yeah.
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Jd Vance isn't doing shit.
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No. I was like, no, jd Vance is, no Cheney.
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I don't know, No, he is definitely not. He's too
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busy trying to ooh, are.
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You going to say it? Are you going to say it.
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He's too busy trying to be Charlie Kirk.
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Yes, but that's a nice way of saying it.
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Yeah, allegedly, Yeah, allegedly, so that we, uh we start
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getting into all of his uh super cool.
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Wars and shit. And that's where my friend Aaron here
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is going to jump in.
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Yeah. God, let's see. I'm just gonna read off these
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notes because it's a lot. Yeah. Uh So, the funny
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thing is we keep talking about his age, but yeah,
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he was sixty when he became VP, although he was
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twenty years older. He became w's closest advisor and a
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dominant player in shaping policy. Frightening, We just stop that,
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and it's they're still using his policy. Uh. Cheney advocated
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an aggressive new foreign policy, which is uh me, threats
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would be met with swift preemptive action. No longer would
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the US wait for an enemy strike. He helped sell
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the Iraq war.
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Uh yes he did.
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And I was gonna say, even though all of that,
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you know, they're like, oh Osama bin Laden was architect
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for nine to eleven, the US did go after the
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Taliban defeated the Taliban in quotes Yep Ben Lauden goes
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to Pakistan and then all of a sudden they go
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after sintam USI.
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Yeah, they're like while we're here, since we're here, like
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maybe we just maybe we just get him. We'll just yeah,
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why not?
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I mean I was reading all this, Sonya, and I'm like,
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what a load of shit? How did this happen?
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Don't well, because what's crazy is.
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We all had not we all because I don't think
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we should lump ourselves in here. There used to be
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a lot of trust in the government. Well they know
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what they're doing, like they wouldn't do blank if. And
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then Nixon kind of eroded that, right, and then Rigan
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kind of built it back up, and I think George w.
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And Cheney like cashed in on that. It was like,
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well they must know, you know, they had, but they
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they don't. They just wanted him.
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They just they just did it. Yeah, they went instead
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of beIN laden, they went after Saddam.
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This is easier, you guys, Come on, we can't do
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hard things.
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And he said in an interview like, oh, it's gonna
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be easy. I'm of course, yeah, of course, this I'm
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not direct quote quote unquote, but he really did think
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it was going to be a short war. Yeah, and
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I don't know what that even means.
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I don't know at all.
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And then the US ended up being in Iraq for
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eight years, Iraq eight years, and then more than thirty
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four hundred troops were killed and thirty two thousand were
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wounded over that. Yeah.
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Yeah, real short dick, so short dick.
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I I always wonder like he got us into that mess. Yeah,
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he being the figurehead of it. Why didn't we just
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charge him the money it costs to be their free year?
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You could afford it, probably, Yeah, I mean he was
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making a shit ton of money. Yeah, at the same.
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Time could have been given a like a bill that.
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Would have been lovely. We just don't do We don't
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do that here, No, we know, maybe we should. Like
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they hired a lot of his connections to do business
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over there. He made you know, he still had stocks
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in Haliburton at the time. Like he made a lot
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of money off of this, and that was a huge
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conflict of interest. But nobody did shit about it.
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No one did shit about it.
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No, And it's worse now, obviously, but it was terrible then.
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Yeah, And I actually want to go back to to
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say when he was Secretary of Defense. That's when his
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Saddam Hussein boner like happened.
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It lasted more than eight hours. Well that's why the
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heart was so bad decades. Yes, that's a long boner.
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That's a long time to have a boner.
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Are you gonna?
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Is this gonna be okay for broadcast? We're allowed to
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say next, are we are we gonna get blacklisted?
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Now? That's fine.
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I'm fine with.
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That, I say now, and like we aren't anyways.
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Like I'm not already gonna get one star reviews just
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for people are like I love Dick Cheney.
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Yeah, I love Dick. So I don't know if I'm
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jumping over too quickly. But we have to talk about
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Scooter Libby, Yes, we do, and what a shit show
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that was. So It's chief of staff and top advisor
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Lewis Scooter Libby was a grown man, grown ass man,
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going by Scooter Wow. Yes, was convicted of perjury an
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investigation into the leaking of the name of Covert CIA
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operative Valerie Plane. Mm hmmm, which I still feel we're
396
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feeling the ripple effect of.
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Because that was some bullshit. It was some super bullshit.
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And not a great not a great thing for her
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or her.
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Career, and you know it's her fault though it's totally
401
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it's always it's always the woman's fault, Like how was
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she dressed as she was working undercover?
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I mean yeah, But the funny, not so funny thing
404
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is is Dick was really trying to Dick was trying
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to push Bush Junior to pardon Scooter on his way out,
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and Bush was like, nope, no, thank you.
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That is wild to me because Bush did whatever he
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wanted the entire time, but that was the bridge too far.
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He was like no, And I'm like, maybe he just
410
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didn't like Scooter. Maybe Scooter sucks, or maybe he's like
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he's a grown man who calls himself Scooter, so fuck
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that guy.
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Or maybe he had a thing for Valerie. I don't know.
414
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Maybe I don't know.
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I mean, maybe he cared about his legacy and how
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that would look.
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Maybe did, but I was like, does he care about
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that stuff?
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I don't know? Or maybe he just wanted to fuck
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Dick over right.
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I It's it like, yeah, a lot of the reading
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and videos I was watching like that second term, wasn't
423
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they're at odds?
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Yeah, so yeah, Dick wants to run the show.
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And sorry, Dick, I'm a child, I am, but child
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Bush Bush is in charge. Oh boy. And then if
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that's not enough, oh god. So I think everyone knows,
428
00:24:01.759 --> 00:24:05.079
but if you don't, Cheney accidentally I put in quotes,
429
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he did, I guess accidentally shot his friend in the face. Oops.
430
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He says it was an act. I mean I guess
431
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it would be an accident. But that's a really horrible accident.
432
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Yeah, its like a seasoned hunter.
433
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Yeah, so.
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What's happening?
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I don't know. I don't know how you shoot your
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friend in the face. You're really not paying attention.
437
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No, Allegedly the sun got in his eyes, get some sunglasses, Like,
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what the fuck, it's a little too sonny out. So
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he shot wounded his friend, attorney Harry Whittington, who was
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long known for helping build a Republican party in Texas.
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Well, that's his reward, by right.
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I'm like, well, shit happen sometimes. So shot him in
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two thousand and six quail hunting in Texas. The weird
444
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thing is is that the story didn't come out for
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two days, and like that kind of thing. I was
446
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reading around the interwebs and they're like, normally you report
447
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that right away, you think in normal times, yeah, right away,
448
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and then you know Cheney, it took him days to
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even talk about it, and of course he talked to
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Fox News about it, so.
451
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Well, that's cool. I'm sure they dug deep and asked
452
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really important questions, right, I'm sure it was his friend wearing.
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Well, allegedly he was wearing what he's supposed to wear
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and just dicked and see him. So there you go,
455
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see him. But yes, I mean, Harry was seventy eight
456
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when that happened. Jesus and he.
457
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Survived, damn damn.
458
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Yeah. So yeah, Cheney had a weird uh like late
459
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late in life. I don't know what you would call
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it out like coming out of being VP. Yeah, weird
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time coming out of it.
462
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Yeah, well, he.
463
00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:15.680
Like time wasn't kind to him or I don't know
464
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what was happening, the universe was universing, I don't know.
465
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Yeah, he came out and I mean he was just
466
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all on Obama's ass always like it was constant, like
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he's gonna get us all killed, He's gonna do I'm like, bitch,
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that was what you were doing, Like you're projecting much.
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But he like he had another heart attack right after
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he left the White House. Yes, and then like three
471
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years after that he had a heart transplant and that
472
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stuck apparently, But he wrote and then he wrote a
473
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bunch of books with people. So he wrote one with
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his daughter Liz, and all it is is like shitting
475
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all over Obama. Like that's all. It's just I read
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a review and because I was like, I'm not reading
477
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the book. Nobody has time for that. They sound fucking boring.
478
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But you know, he wrote, like the damage the Baraco
479
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Obama has done to our ability to defend ourselves as appalling.
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It is without historical precedent. He has set us upon
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a path of decline so steep that it's reversing the
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direction that it will not be easy. Like none of
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those things happen because Obama. It all happened because of you, dickhead.
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Did he not, dick Did he not celebrate Osama bin
485
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Ladaen being caught by the Obama administration?
486
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Probably not, or he probably just lies to himself and
487
00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:42.519
thinks that he did it.
488
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Yeah, he probably thought he was in the room.
489
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Yeah, He's like, I was in the room when it happened.
490
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I was there.
491
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I was there I'm everywhere because I'm a million years old.
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I am father time.
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It's just the every review I read of that book,
494
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and it was called in My Time, a personal and
495
00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:09.079
political memoir. All the reviews were like, basically, sure Jan.
496
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It was the equivalent of the sure Jan meme. It
497
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:16.839
was saying it was like selective history, unconvincing, you know
498
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all of that. So it didn't get good reviews. Young
499
00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:25.559
people now probably only know Dick Cheney from either when
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Keiki Palmer made him famous by saying she didn't know
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who he was. Do you remember this in twenty nineteen,
502
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:36.680
she's doing that like vanity fair light detector test. They
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show her a picture of Dick Cheney and she says,
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I hate to say it, and I hope I don't
505
00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:44.599
sound ridiculous, but I don't know who that man is.
506
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And then she says, sorry to this man. So he
507
00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:52.400
was a meme for a while. Sorry to this man.
508
00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:57.960
That is incredible. I love that. Yeah, I love her
509
00:28:58.119 --> 00:28:59.599
for him. I love that for him.
510
00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:04.200
And then there was a movie called Weis Oh Yeah,
511
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with Christian Bale. I didn't see it.
512
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I didn't.
513
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I didn't want to spend two hours with a character
514
00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:14.680
like Dick Cheney or Christian Bale to be honest, although
515
00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:19.240
he's a good actor. He's a good actor, but yeah.
516
00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:21.599
I think we started it and like we're just kind
517
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of not interested.
518
00:29:23.319 --> 00:29:27.880
Yeah, try it. But Christian Bale actually won a Golden
519
00:29:27.880 --> 00:29:30.519
Globe for it, and he said that he was inspired
520
00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:35.640
to buy Satan to play Dick Cheney. So I'll give
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00:29:35.720 --> 00:29:37.000
him his snaps for that.
522
00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:38.519
All right, Christian Bale.
523
00:29:38.720 --> 00:29:44.839
Yeah. And then after Trump won quote unquote the second time,
524
00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:52.200
oh last year, that one, that's when like he starts
525
00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:57.559
taking advantage of Dick Cheney's playbook the whole Uh, if
526
00:29:57.599 --> 00:30:01.359
the president does it, it's not illegal shit. And that's
527
00:30:01.400 --> 00:30:03.839
how we've ended up where we are. He's like firing
528
00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:08.480
all these people, He's the Department of Education doesn't exist anymore.
529
00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:11.200
He's just doing whatever he wants. This was all laid
530
00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:15.039
out by Dick Cheney. And then Dick Cheney's like, I think,
531
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:20.039
you know, this is terrible. And then the media was
532
00:30:20.119 --> 00:30:24.240
like Dick Cheney isn't going to vote for a Republican
533
00:30:24.480 --> 00:30:27.559
and then the Democrats like fell all over themselves to
534
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like like win over like people that like Dick Cheney,
535
00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:34.519
I guess, and hopefully they would vote for Harris, and
536
00:30:34.559 --> 00:30:37.240
all it did was alienate all the other people that
537
00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:39.880
would have voted for Oh, it's such a cluster cluck.
538
00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:43.559
Yes, do you think Liz had a conversation with her
539
00:30:43.640 --> 00:30:47.400
dad and was like, uh, Trump is using your playbook,
540
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:50.279
by the way, Like, do you think they not? You
541
00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:51.200
don't think they had the count?
542
00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:54.200
Probably not, but she probably did tell him like, hey,
543
00:30:54.559 --> 00:30:57.160
that guy Trump is trying to kill me. He's trying
544
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to get her killed. Yes, so I know, oh you know,
545
00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:05.240
surely loves his kids. Yeah, yeah, I'm like, I don't know.
546
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:11.240
Maybe he just even I was reading that Bush well
547
00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:14.960
w would make fun of his non riz like he
548
00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:17.599
like they would call him Darth Vader.
549
00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:19.319
Yeah he was.
550
00:31:20.480 --> 00:31:21.720
Wow did he live so long?
551
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:23.000
I don't know.
552
00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:24.319
Many hearts?
553
00:31:24.680 --> 00:31:28.880
I so many hearts, so many heart attacks?
554
00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:30.400
Yeah, I don't know.
555
00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:34.799
I mean even his heart was like no, no, no.
556
00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:38.920
Trying trying to to save us really because.
557
00:31:39.119 --> 00:31:42.680
Yeah, I know, thank you to this heart, you.
558
00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:43.680
Finally did your job.
559
00:31:43.799 --> 00:31:48.279
No, yes, well he died the day before election day
560
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:51.839
this year, So November thirty was eighty four, but now
561
00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:54.240
and he looked one hundred and eighty four. But he
562
00:31:54.359 --> 00:31:57.759
was eighty four and it was complications from pneumonia, but
563
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also he had like heart disease.
564
00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:04.039
And well, yeah, I know. Even the new heart was
565
00:32:04.079 --> 00:32:08.400
like nope, the new heart was like why yeah, no
566
00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:11.000
got in. There was no did this happened?
567
00:32:11.559 --> 00:32:14.279
No? So he's gone now, which is why we're doing
568
00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:16.599
this episode now, because he can't do creepy things. But
569
00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:21.960
the groundwork he laid it's there. Like one of the
570
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:24.119
first episodes we ever did of what a creep was
571
00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:29.200
about Newt Gingrich. Fucking hate new Gingrich. I hate him.
572
00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:34.160
He's still alive, yeah, yeah.
573
00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:37.079
But so much of what we see now too, is
574
00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:39.519
like he laid the groundwork for stuff like this too,
575
00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:43.440
the like name Colleen, all of that, all this bullshit
576
00:32:43.559 --> 00:32:46.359
that used to be like we wouldn't vote for someone
577
00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:48.480
like that back in the day, and now it's like
578
00:32:48.759 --> 00:32:52.599
you could just say whatever and someone will vote for you.
579
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:55.640
I don't I don't understand it. But they made this monster,
580
00:32:56.440 --> 00:32:59.359
yes exactly, and people like Dick Cheney.
581
00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:01.599
Yep, they did it. They did it.
582
00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:05.480
Karl Rove, Yeah, Carl Rove. Oh, he's definitely on the list.
583
00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:06.680
I hate him.
584
00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:11.519
Yeah, I hate him too. I wrote back when ask
585
00:33:11.599 --> 00:33:15.039
your grandparents about blogging kids. Back when I used to blog,
586
00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:19.000
I remember Carl Rove split from his wife, and I
587
00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:22.160
wrote a blog post that was like, single ladies, don't
588
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:24.599
date Carl Rove. Whatever you do, don't date him. He
589
00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:28.440
deserves to be like a lonely old, miserable man. And
590
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:32.240
I got so much hate, like people going into into
591
00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:36.759
this blog with the nastiest comments like defending Karl Rove.
592
00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:39.480
I was like, what a bunch of unfuckable losers.
593
00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:42.680
Yes, oh, come on, it.
594
00:33:42.599 --> 00:33:45.759
Was forever ago. That was forever ago, because again blogging.
595
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:48.519
But I feel like you can revive that one.
596
00:33:48.920 --> 00:33:51.000
I think it's time to bring blogs back. We can
597
00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:52.200
control it, you know.
598
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:55.200
Yeah. I mean that's what substack is and people love it.
599
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That's true blogging. Join me over at WordPress, everybody. I'm
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00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:02.319
not on substack, so.
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Join me over or whatever whatever works for you. That's
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what I say.
603
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Yeah, if whatever works for you.
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00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:11.599
Now you could write something about Charlie Kirk's wife what's
605
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her name? Because she's single?
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00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:16.320
Now, oh, Eric goes yeahbe not for long?
607
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Yeah?
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Or legedly.
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Nobody puts their fingers through hair if no doing each
610
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other like.
611
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No, I'm sorry, No, you are correct.
612
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I'm side.
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I'm no, we can, we can go sideways. I want
614
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hundreds percent believe that that's what's happening. Of course, yes,
615
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:39.840
they're totally fucking Yes. Vance is going to leave his
616
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:42.920
wife and he's going to hook up with it with her.
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00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:45.960
That's what that is what I believe is going to happen.
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And in those pleather pants, whatever the fuck that was
619
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the happiest widow. Yeah.
620
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Like, I'm like, she's skipping down that yellow brick road totally.
621
00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:02.679
I'm like, it's weird that it's weird behavior. Look, I
622
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:07.760
know grief makes people do weird things, but this is weird.
623
00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:12.199
Like red flag? Where's my red flag? Here it is?
624
00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:13.440
Do you have one?
625
00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:17.039
Yeah? Here we go red flag. I wave that it
626
00:35:17.079 --> 00:35:21.280
works sometimes red flag. I love that, so that her
627
00:35:21.320 --> 00:35:25.480
behavior is red flag? Oh god. Anyways, you need to
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come back for like one of the bonus episodes where
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we just talked about the news.
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Can't wait?
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Yeah, that would be super fun. I know you have
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a you have a non creep for us too.
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I have the opposite of Dick.
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What is the opposite of Dick?
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I have mom Donnie, who's going to be the next mayor.
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Of New York.
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It's amazing. How happy were you anyone? Oh boy tears
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really yeah, like this like feeling. I texted you and
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I was like, what is this feeling?
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How I haven't had this in a long time?
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I know this like hopeful feeling. Like, first of all,
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what a delightful campaign?
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00:36:08.199 --> 00:36:12.840
Yeah? He ran like just fun fun, joyful also just
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like not scary.
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Yeah, joyful is a great word for it. And like, hey,
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isn't New York cool? We could make it cooler, which
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is the opposite of all the other campaigns, which you know,
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which is like New York is scary, aarmongering, Yeah, like
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you can't even ride the subway all this stuff. And
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he's like, no, like all New York's dope, Like let's
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make it cool.
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I mean even his font was joyful, you know what
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I mean, like like looking at it.
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And he was just so like every like trashy thing
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they threw at him, he was like what.
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And so smart about it. Yeah, just like had the
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pop culture references here there everywhere, like you just couldn't
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hurt him, which I loved. And He's like, I speaks
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about the things. You say whatever you want about me,
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but I just want everyone to have like free free childcare.
661
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Yeah, that's all I want. Yeah, he's like, imagine we
662
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could have free childcare and you could ride the bus
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for free, and and.
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The one percent gets taxed as well as corporations.
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Yes, all he wants for New York and they had
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so they have this candidate who's running and like the
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worst people in New York are like if he wins,
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I'm moving. And I was like, oh my god, don't
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threaten New York with a good time. I'm jealous. I
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wish we had a candidate like that here in the
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Bay Area. That would make the worst people want to
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move away. It would fix the housing crisis like that.
673
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Yeah, I mean you saw Deborah Messing, right, you saw
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that Deborah Messy.
675
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Yes, she had a total breakdown. It was embarrassing, Like what.
676
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Happened to you? Are you okay?
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She's not she's not okay, Like I almost with a joke.
678
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I didn't know it was real. Yeah, it's a that's embarrassing, embarrassing.
679
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But all these people like Dave Portnoy from like, oh
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I mood, take my office somewhere else, good bye.
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Yeah, see you later.
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Take it to Florida.
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Yeah, just I the pearl clushing again? Is I love it.
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I actually have a friend that was that waits tables
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in New York and she was waiting tables that night
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and had a group of women who were affluent. And
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the way that she found out them I'm Donnie one
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was that they're like, oh he won. It was very
689
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oh hurt about it, and so my friend couldn't even
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like join into the like yay. She's like, oh, these
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are assholes.
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Oh that I'm serving. Yeah, they need to like they
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need a make America Great hat or something and they
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can wear so we can identify them.
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Oh, just wear it.
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Yeah, that's why when I see people in the hats
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and all, thanks, Yeah, at.
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Least I know who you are. But I don't know
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he's He's not a creep to.
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Me, He's not a creep. All the things he wants
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to do. I'm like, those things are awesome, and people
702
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are like, they can't happen. Can we try? How about
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we try?
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Yes? I'm also talking with other people about Monday Mondami.
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Oh my god, mom, Donnie, what am I see? Whah?
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Is that that guy Jojo Siwah what was his name?
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I don't even know what the red Beret, Yeah, just
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call him red Beret Curtis se Wah is that his
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name right? Not Jojo Siwa?
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That?
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No, I know, fascinating campaign if that was true.
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I mean, she would be more interesting. But but even
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people that I talk to that I feel might, like
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00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:55.239
Mom Donnie, are just kind of like, well, we'll see,
715
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And I'm like, well, what does that mean? Can we
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have to wait for like one week? Can I? Yeah?
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I hope for the best.
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Yes, wouldn't that be lovely? So it would be nice
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if we there was like a whole day where we
720
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could just like not think about politics.
721
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That was also that I would love that day.
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Just so long I don't even remember, just even like
723
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a work day, like give me eight hours, right, eight
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whole hours where we don't have to think about So.
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Is today in the day they're taking away all of
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our health care?
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No?
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Not today? Okay? Maybe tomorrow?
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Yeah?
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Right?
731
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How's my bodily autonomy?
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No?
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Not today? Okay?
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Cool?
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Cool? Yep, everything's super cool and normal here?
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Which states hate women? Oh yeah, cool? And a lot
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of them and anyone that's not white, I know, you know.
738
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Are not a creeps are usually a little bit more hopeful.
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But he's great.
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I love him. That's a great pick and I was
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happy to see him win.
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And I think I hope he inspires more candidates like that,
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Like we need for so we need younger people, please,
744
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younger people, save us from ourselves. And just yeah, the
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00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:15.079
hopeful it just I know, like the constant, like America
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00:41:15.159 --> 00:41:17.159
is a big shit show right now, but there's awesome
747
00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:19.519
shit here too. Could we just try to make it better,
748
00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:22.360
right instead of trying to make it worse for everybody?
749
00:41:23.079 --> 00:41:26.000
And again we talked about it, stop the fear of mongering. Yeah,
750
00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:29.079
there's bad shit that's happening in big cities, small cities,
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00:41:29.239 --> 00:41:33.400
little towns, whatever, But there's also great things. Yeah, always
752
00:41:33.400 --> 00:41:35.960
happening always, So let's talk about that.
753
00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:41.679
Yeah, free buses man, Yeah that would be lovely.
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00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:44.400
Why not. If he can just do a couple things,
755
00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:45.400
it'll be great.
756
00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:49.559
It will be I agree too. Thanks for talking about
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00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:50.159
Dick with me.
758
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:57.159
I mean it's a little complicated, but I'm here for it.
759
00:41:57.440 --> 00:42:03.000
Yeah. Normally formally, welcome to our new podcast, Dick Talk.
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00:42:03.360 --> 00:42:07.639
Yay tell people a little bit about bitch talk please.
761
00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:13.719
Oh wow. Bitch talk Man hatched about twelve years ago
762
00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:16.679
and it was just a couple of gals around a
763
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kitchen table talking about pop culture shit, and it's just
764
00:42:20.679 --> 00:42:26.639
evolved into and to rad interviews with filmmakers and actors
765
00:42:26.880 --> 00:42:30.599
and folks that are change makers. And my co host
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Ange and I go to Sundance in south By, Southwest.
767
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And do the coolest stuff.
768
00:42:34.920 --> 00:42:38.079
We talked to some cool folks and then we also
769
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do things called basic bitches, like one of them in
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00:42:41.000 --> 00:42:46.840
the last two months was in a Costco. I love
771
00:42:46.920 --> 00:42:51.480
that because my co host loves Costco at it. I
772
00:42:51.679 --> 00:42:55.920
like it, but it gives me anxiety because it's yeah,
773
00:42:55.960 --> 00:42:58.400
so I'm like, if we go when it opens, I'm cool,
774
00:42:58.440 --> 00:43:01.159
but I cannot go like midday or later, Like yeah,
775
00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:05.880
so early. But it was really fun and apparently people
776
00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:08.199
love that episode. So if you want to find us,
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00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:09.679
start with the Costco episode.
778
00:43:09.679 --> 00:43:12.440
There you go. I was listening to your most recent
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Basic b Oh. Guys, we're talking about dating and all
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00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:17.559
the dating horror stories that you hear at the bar,
781
00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:21.440
and I'm like, yeah, that sounds sounds vaccurate.
782
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:25.559
It's a it's an interesting thing to watch ye work
783
00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:29.159
at a bar and first dates or you have serial daters. Yes,
784
00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:31.280
I have a guy that brings in different girls almost
785
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:34.239
every day of the week. I'm like, oh, that happens,
786
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:37.920
and I always like to say, oh, hey, nice to
787
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:43.679
see you again when they're with a new gal. Oops,
788
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:45.719
my bad, I'm by head.
789
00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:48.599
And then you're like, girl, run run a little bit,
790
00:43:48.760 --> 00:43:49.360
a little.
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00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:52.920
Bit, a little bit, but yeah, thanks, thanks for listening.
792
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:55.320
So of course I love your podcast. I think it's
793
00:43:55.360 --> 00:43:59.039
super and I love the interviews you get. And I know,
794
00:43:59.199 --> 00:44:01.480
like recently you got to go to like the Freaky
795
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Tales premiere. I was insanely jealous. Oh well, guess what.
796
00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:09.159
I actually didn't get to go and got to go.
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Oh I was busy that night. So she's the one
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who got to yell I love you to Pedro Pascal
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and gave a thicker I mean whatever, and yeah, yeah,
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but yeah it's fine for her.
801
00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:21.320
Fine, I love that for her.
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00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:23.639
Yeah, but she had a good time. Did you watch
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Freaky Teals? Yeah?
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00:44:24.719 --> 00:44:26.719
I loved it, such a good one. I loved it.
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00:44:26.800 --> 00:44:28.880
It's like one of my favorite movies this year.
806
00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:32.400
Same and not just because of Pedro, not because of Oakland,
807
00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:34.159
just it's just a good.
808
00:44:34.039 --> 00:44:36.199
Fun It's just a good movie. I've recommended it to
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00:44:36.280 --> 00:44:38.440
multiple people who've told me how much they like it.
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00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:41.320
So yeah, yeah, it was a good one.
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Yeah yeah, that's bitch talk in a nutshell.
812
00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:48.320
So go check out bitch talk and thank you everybody
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00:44:48.360 --> 00:44:52.079
for listening again. Follow us on your preferred social media,
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00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:55.880
but we're only on blue Sky and sometimes Instagram, and
815
00:44:55.920 --> 00:44:58.639
you can find me also at the Soniashow dot com,
816
00:44:58.679 --> 00:45:03.440
which is a blog. It is a blog that's okay,
817
00:45:03.920 --> 00:45:06.400
And I'm on Instagram and I'm on blue Sky at
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the Sonya shows, so definitely hit me up there and
819
00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:13.880
send us requests. This is super fun. We'll be back
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00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:16.559
in a couple weeks with a new episode. I don't
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know what it's going to be yet. And then of
822
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course Aaron, we have it here recorded that she said
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she would come back for a bonus episode, so we'll
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do that. Hell yeah all right, So everybody, as Margo
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00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:31.599
would say, be safe, be kind, wash your hands, and
826
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don't be a creep. Thank you for listening to us
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talk about creeps. You can follow us at What a
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Creep Podcast on Facebook and Instagram, but don't follow.
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Us too closely.
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You can email us your creepy stories at what a
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Creeppodcast at gmail dot com.
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But please keep your dick thixt to yourself.
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00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:13.679
Something about something that's something about that's not something about
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something to get something an that's something that's nothing, that's
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something about that