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Let's all hear.
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It for the Panthers.
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We know how to play the game. Side by side
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we'll stick together to uphold the Panthers' name. Hear the
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barricades all shouting. Hear them shouting one and all. All
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the premier ships in Cape War with the Panthers on
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the line.
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Now it's time for Tensions Running High, a Penrith Panthers
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podcast presented by the Western Weekender, brought to you by
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Penrith City Automotive. Here's Troy Dodds and Nathan Taylor.
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Hello everyone and welcome to Tensions Running High, a Penrith
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Panthers podcast presented by the Western Weekender. This is episode 92.
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I'm Troy Dodds and as always joined by Nathan Taylor.
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Hello Nathan.
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Hello Troy.
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We are the voice of rugby league in Penrith. We
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love talking all things Penrith Panthers. For 35 years the
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Weekender has led the way in Panthers coverage here in Penrith.
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We've covered six premierships, the biggest breaking stories, and interviewed CEOs, coaches, chairmen, players.
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On the agenda today, finals, finals, and more finals. So
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let's get underway. And after 27 gruelling rounds of the
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Telstra Premiership, the Penrith Panthers are NRL Minor Premiers. It
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is the sixth time. The Panthers have claimed the JJ
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Gilton and Shield and the fourth time in the past
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seven seasons. Hard to believe, Nathan, that this era is
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far from over.
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Yeah, it's quite unbelievable considering what happened last year. We
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watched that prelim loss to Brisbane and thought, is it
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all over? But Ivan and Nathan, they believe, the players
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believe that there was still another run to come. And
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we got that this year, winning the minor premiership.
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Yeah, look, just a bit of a recap of the
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regular season. So Penrith finished first, 18 wins and 6 losses,
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42 points. Only once during this era of success has
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Penrith actually finished with more than 42 points, and that
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was in 2021 when they finished with 44. Penrith scored
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683 points, the second best in the competition, and finished
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as the best defensive team as well with just 347
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points conceded in context. The next best is the Warriors
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at 418. So if you think that defense wins premierships, well,
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that's a pretty good sign for the Panthers.
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Yeah, and I heard Nathan Cleary speak on 100% Footy
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on Monday night, and he also agreed that he believes
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that defense will win the premiership this year. So lucky
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he's on the side of the Panthers this weekend.
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Absolutely. Talking of that man, Nathan Cleary finished the second
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highest point scorer of the season with 213 behind Jermaine
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Asako's 288. And Tom Jenkins finished equal top try scorer
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He got 30 tries alongside Alex Johnson. I thought he
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was going to get number 31. It looked like it
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was possible there on the weekend, but didn't quite get there.
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But look, overall, a great season. And obviously, the minor
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premiership is a great honor. I know it's not considered
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the holy grail in NRL, but it is quite the
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achievement to be the most consistent team over a season.
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Oh, 100%. I think anytime you can win a trophy
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in a sporting competition, it's always a good thing. We
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got to see the the scenes on Sunday at, uh,
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Combank stadium. Um, I know a lot of Panthers fans
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stuck around, uh, after full time to, to watch the
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presentation and obviously, um, just enjoy the, a bit of
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a party atmosphere, sort of like a pre-party before the,
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the potential grand final and final in a few weeks time.
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So very much enjoyed getting a, the JJ, as they say, and, uh,
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I managed to pop down on Monday afternoon for a
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quick walk and it was intact. It was still there.
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The engravings had been there, not, not the current year, but,
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The previous years had finally been filled in and it
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looked good.
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So it's there, obviously, at Panthers Leagues Club, if anyone
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wants to go and check it out. Yeah, okay. All right. Now,
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I do have a couple of gripes as far as
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the presentation of the JJ Gilton Shield is concerned. Now,
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the first one is the fact that the presentation itself
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was not done in front of the fans. Now, for
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those who were at ComBank on Sunday... everything was facing
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the corporate side, the media side of the stadium. And
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I actually– look, they might come up with some logistical
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reason as to why that happened, but actually the more
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and more I think of it, the more it actually
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angers me that that happened because you've got your– you know,
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you've got a stadium there in– and we'll talk about
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this a bit later too, but you've got a stadium
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there where that whole side is corporate and your fans
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who've come week in, week out, paid their memberships, who
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want to see you lift that shield– all the backs
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are to them and the presentation. I actually thought that
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was pretty, you know, pretty ordinary.
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Yeah, look, it's, you know, there's probably a couple of
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reasons to why they do it. Potentially it's, you know,
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they want the commentators to see it or the cameras
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to be able to focus on to that part of
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the field. I mean, you see it sometimes in grand finals.
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I think lately at a course stadium, when they do
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the grand final presentations, you know, they have them sort
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of towards the end of the fields and at angles
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and things like that. They've figured out different ways to,
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To do it. But yeah, look, that was annoying.
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I agree.
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Because you couldn't see anything, the celebration or not yet
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to watch the big screen throughout the whole thing. So yeah,
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very frustrating. But what can you do?
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And I'll cop that you do it to one side
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if you've got fans on both sides. You can't. We're
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not performing in the round in a concert. But when
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you're doing it in front of a half-empty corporate stand
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who are half interested in it anyway.
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Half aren't probably fan, Panthers fans anyway.
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Silliness. Silliness. And the other thing that kind of got
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my goat up a little bit was that neither of
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the broadcasters, Fox League or Channel 9, took the ceremony. Now,
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they'll have got logistical reasons for that. Nine obviously really
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wants that 4 p.m. game to butt into its news,
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so they go straight from the footy to the top-rating
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6 p.m.
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News.
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Fox League wants to go to the Matty John show,
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but here's two broadcasters who paid billions of dollars for
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the rights to broadcast the home-and-away season and then don't
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show the presentation of the trophy for that home-and-away season.
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They just don't seem to care about it, and yet
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they want us to watch week in, week out.
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I guess they're probably thinking on behalf of the viewer,
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what viewer is going to care about Penrith winning the
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minor premiership, but Panthers fans, you know what I mean?
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And they're probably thinking, oh, well, like if we piss
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off a few thousand Panthers fans, oh, well, you know,
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that's all I can think. Like it's not, that's not
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important to the broadcasters. Well, you know what they could
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have done? They could have, they could have filmed it
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and at least put that on there on YouTube or
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one of their, you know, YouTube channels or something like that.
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Like we do often see like them clip up things.
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I don't think, the presentation has been clipped up anywhere
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from what I can tell.
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And in the modern era, like Nine could say, look,
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you know, if you want to continue, you know, go
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over to Go or Gem or whatever else. And in fact,
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I reckon they should do that on Sundays anyway, because
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I think that, I know that I probably don't want
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to split their audience away from the news, but that
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Sunday afternoon game, which is, you know, a premium game,
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often gets no post coverage anywhere because we start the
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Matty John show on Fox and And on Channel 9,
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we go to the news. Every other night, you've got
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almost an hour worth of post coverage, you know, on
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Fox and 9 and other games.
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Yeah, I think obviously being a 9 viewer, I think
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sometimes when the game finishes early, like sometimes it finishes
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like 10 to 5 or something like that. 10 to 6, yeah.
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10 to 6, they will obviously stick around and they
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do some post-game interviews and stuff like that. But obviously Fox,
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they just go straight to Matty Johns when the broadcast
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is over.
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Yeah, I guess it's one of those things where maybe
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the new broadcast deal, Troy, there will be some tinkering.
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Maybe. Well, there will be a change to Sunday nights
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because we're going to have a Sunday time slot. And
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Matty Johns does cross back to the ground for one
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interview during the show. But it's just not the same
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as the analysis. It's more of a comedic interview, isn't it? Yeah,
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the analysis you sort of get. But yeah, I just
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thought that given how significant it is to win the
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minor premiership, disappointing on those factors that we saw the
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The presentation not being done in front of the actual
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fans and then also not being shown on TV. I
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enjoyed the awkwardness of Peter Volandis. I don't know if
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you were watching that. He didn't know if he should
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be in the photo or if he was going to speak.
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It looked like he wasn't really sure what was going on.
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Yeah, I think he's still getting used to this new
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role because obviously a lot of that would be there.
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Abdo would be there looking after a lot of those
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things or they do it together. But on this occasion,
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he looked a bit lost. He looked a bit lonely
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out there.
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He did. He did, actually.
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Looked very lost. I zoomed in, actually, from across the way,
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and he was there texting away, I presume telling them
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to bring out the shield. It's all confirmed.
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It was exciting. How good was that moment? It was
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like five or ten minutes to go, and they brought
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it out. That gave you goosebumps, that bit.
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Yeah, absolutely. And, yeah, another great trophy, and it deserves
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the recognition it gets. It is only the sixth time
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the Panthers have won the JJ Gilton shield. But on
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to bigger things, and it is the Panthers and the Roosters.
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It's won all this year, of course. The Panthers thrashed
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the Roosters earlier in the season, but the Roosters got
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one back not so long ago, 12-6, when, ironically, Daily
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Cherry Evans was the star of the show, and now
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he steers the ship. Now, look, this is a big game.
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It's East versus West. There's a lot of talk about
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the Roosters coming in, three straight losses, no Sam Walker.
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This is an easy one for Penrith, but, look, this
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is finals footy. Anything can happen.
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Yeah, and on the walk over to the podcast, Troy,
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I said to you, that's what sort of worries me.
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It seems to be Penrith are big favourites heading into
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this one. No one's really giving the Roosters a shot.
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As you said, they haven't won in a while since
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they last played Penrith was their last win. And I
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don't know, something like that worries me. It's like, you know,
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Penrith's not going to rest on their laurels and, you know,
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go lightly on them. But, you know, that might fire
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the Roosters up. They've had most of that team has
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had two weeks to, To prepare for round one, to
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get fresh, to get ready. Yeah, I don't know. I'm...
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not saying I'm worried, but it would not surprise me
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if there was an upset on Sunday.
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Yeah, there's different views around what the Roosters did because
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some people believe, look, shouldn't have rested. You know, you've
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lost two in a row. You've got to play. But
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others are like, well, yes, but if they played and
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they lost– And then they legitimately lost three in a row,
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you know, going in with their main players. And maybe
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that's worse than just, look, resting. No, you're going to
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get hammered by the bunnies and then come out and, look,
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have a reset, which is what they've done. Unlike Penrith,
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who played everyone, including Nathan Cleary and Isaiah Yeo. Nathan
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Cleary played, what, 75 minutes? I was, you know, basically
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from the 20th minute, I was like, get him off.
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But he stayed out there that whole time. And like
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anyone in that sort of little eastern pocket who saw
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him reel out of that tackle at one stage and
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hold the arm, Um, I was a little bit panicked
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there for about 10 seconds, but, um, but, but all
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is good there. Um, but look, yeah, look, the Roosters
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know how to beat Penrith. They did it six weeks ago. So,
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you know, you can't, uh, can't rule them out, but
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Penrith have owned these big games against the Roosters and
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there's been a few of them, um, over the last
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few years.
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Yeah, for sure. Obviously, there's been a fair few finals.
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A lot that happened at Penrith Park. I can remember
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at least two of them happening there over the years. And,
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you know, Penrith had their measure of those days. Some
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very good Penrith teams came up against some pretty good
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Roosters teams as well. And then, obviously, at the start
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of the year, Penrith flogged the Roosters. Penrith were in
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that real sweet spot at the start of the season
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where they were just smashing up teams and the Roosters
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certainly copped it. Do I take much out of that
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game about a month ago? Maybe not too much because
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Penrith's going to have a lot different side this Sunday.
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You know, you've got Yo back, you've got Mitch Kenny back.
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You've got some real star players, some really experienced heads
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back in the team. They've got their halves sorted, I think,
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with Nathan and Jack Cole. Obviously, Jack Cog is still
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away for one more game. I think that's working, Troy.
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What do you think?
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Yeah, no, look, I think so as well. I mean,
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I don't think that we're going to see Blaise Talangi
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in this final series.
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Oh, I saw him training on Tuesday morning with the
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Cup team. So the Cup also have a game this
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weekend as well.
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Saturday night, yeah. So we'll probably, I mean, we'll know
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anyway in terms of final numbers and whatnot. But if
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Blaise plays in that game, then he's definitely not getting
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a shot on Sunday. Look, the other sort of factor,
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I guess, is... You look at just the mental state
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of these teams. It's just ironic that the Roosters' last
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win was that game against Penrith, and that was Penrith's
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last loss. So it's really interesting. Is it a case
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of that that was the grand final for the Roosters?
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Beat Penrith. And they managed to obviously achieve that. Where
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for us, it was kind of the wake-up call, those
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two games. And I reckon that Ivan Cleary will now
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look back now that the minor premiership's done, it's all sorted,
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he will love that we lost those two games. Because
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you lose those two games against your closest competitors at
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the right time of the season, I reckon. Because what
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would Penrith actually have gotten out? When you look back now, okay,
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we beat the Warriors and the Roosters. Apart from maybe
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getting into a false sense of security, I don't know
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what they would have achieved out of that. Now we know, well,
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hang on, we're not getting ahead of ourselves because they
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beat us only a month or five weeks ago.
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I guess it would have changed some of their plans
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regarding the last couple of games. I mean, obviously Penrith
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didn't get a chance to rest any players because they
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still wanted to play for a top two spot in
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the minor premiership. So had they won against the Warriors
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and the Roosters, well, they probably would have had a
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bit of a clear lead there at the top of
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the table. It may have changed Ivan's plans over the
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next few weeks, but fortunately everything worked out in the end.
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Penrith win the minor premiership. They get through, I think,
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unscathed as well in terms of players getting injured and
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whatnot and suspended. I think everyone's all good. Obviously, Isaac
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Tungle is still probably a week away. He was telling
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our journalist, Emily Chait, in an interview today that he's
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healing very fast. Like he surprises himself at how quick
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his leg is healing. Like I said, maybe he's having
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bone broth or something. He's a bit kooky, Isaac, with
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some of his diet. But he surprised himself at how
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quick he's healing. So that's obviously good news because the
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more depth you can have come finals time, the better. So, yeah,
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it's going to be a good, entertaining game. And obviously
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we're going to be there, Troy.
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CommBank record. Panthers have only won 60% of their games
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at CommBank Stadium as home team, away team, whatever.
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Not during this two years, though.
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Just in general, just overall. And the Roosters have an
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overall record of CommBank Stadium that is better, 64%. Obviously
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played a lot less games at CommBank and always as
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the away team, but they do have a reasonable record
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there at CommBank Stadium. As we said, sort of the
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modern era, the Panthers have really sort of owned the Roosters.
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They've played 52 times in the NRL era, Penrith 38.
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The Roosters, 22. So considering that a big chunk of
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that time too was when Penrith were struggling, they've definitely
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had some big wins over the Roosters. And I dare
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say Ivan Cleary has well and truly owned the battle
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with Trent Robinson.
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Well, you said that a month ago. We made a
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big song and dance. I think we put something in
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the paper, like a poster or something, and it backfired.
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That's all right. We're worried about finals football. That's all
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we're worried about. It is Sunday afternoon, 4.05pm at Combank Stadium. Tickets, obviously,
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which we'll talk about in a moment, actually, from Ticketmaster. Now,
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this is on Nine and Fox League, of course, during
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the final series. All the games on both networks except
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for the grand final, which is exclusive to Nine. I'm
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going to tip Penrith by about 12 points. I think
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they'll get the job done. I think that they'll just
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be too good in the end in terms of sort
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of strangling the roosters out of the game, I think,
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as well. And, you know, who knows... if officials take
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notice of things or whatever. But I have no doubt
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a little email would have went into the NRL from
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Ivan after that game about the Roosters' tactics that day
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and whether that sits in the back of the mind.
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Put it this way. Are the Roosters going to get
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away with consistently standing offside again and targeting Nathan Clear
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in the way they did? Probably not. But I'm going
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to go Roosters by 12. Yeah, I'm going for a Panthers.
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You said Roosters.
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I'm sorry, Panthers by 12. Wow. Sound the alarm.
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Far out.
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Sound the alarm. Panthers by 12. Okay.
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I'm manifesting an eight-point win for the Panthers. I think
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it's going to be fairly close throughout most of the game.
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Hopefully Penrith can kick along and we can sort of
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relax a little bit, just have like a two-try buffer
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there for the second half. I just don't know. Like
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I think that game a month ago, I don't know
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how much you can take out of it. It was
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the first game without Isaiah Yeo there as well, Lindsay
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Smith going into that position. Nathan looked a bit out
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of sorts because he was getting targeted. I think they're
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going to be a lot better this time around. And
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it's been a long time since Penrith have lost a
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round one finals match as well. I think what back
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in 2021 against the Rabbitohs in Townsville or some ridiculous
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thing like that. Like that's the last time. So yeah,
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I've got good thoughts coming into this one.
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I just think too that Nathan Cleary interview on, on
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Monday night on a hundred percent footy just saw how
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they've just been waiting for this. This is, this is
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what they wait for. This is, you know, the big
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games are Panthers DNA and, They are ready for it.
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And look, as for that, if I'm a Roosters fan,
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the one thing I do take about is how Daley
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Cherry Evans was dominant in that performance and that he
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has to lead them around the park.
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And Tedesco will be back as well. So that's a
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big in for them too.
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Tedesco back. The other thing, of course, I do think
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the Roosters probably own the game on height. You know,
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when you think about Daniel Tupou out there, you think
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about Marky Mark, like You know, Brian Taho, Tom Jenkins,
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even though Tom Jenkins is great in the air and
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Brian Taho is pretty reliable as well. But if the
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Roosters are going to target Penrith anywhere, I think it's
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probably that kick to the wings. We'll see.
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We'll see.
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All right. Now, finals ticketing, Nathan. This has been an
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interesting topic this week because we– Both logged on to
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Ticketmaster as paying members, as we are, to get our
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tickets on Monday. Now, I was okay. My bay was there.
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I got tickets only a couple of rows away from
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my current row, actually. You, though, couldn't get tickets in
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your bay. What was the deal there?
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Yeah, so, you know, obviously logged on at 10. I
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think I was, like, 200 in the line, so, like,
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really close. I think it took, like, maybe a minute
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for the ticketing line to reduce to zero, and I
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was in, and I'm like, oh, I'm going to have
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a pick of the litter here, you know, Troy, like
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this is amazing. So I log in and I noticed
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that half the stadium is blocked out. There were blue
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sections and then there was a whole bunch of grey
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sections and where I wanted to sit and where I've
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been sitting for the past two years paying $ 500 a
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year or whatever it is to sit in those seats,
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that entire bay was... was gray and I wasn't able
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to click into it. It was just not possible. And
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no matter what I did or it just, it just
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was gray the whole time. So I had to pivot
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and go, where am I going to sit? And I'll
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obviously taking a few different people with me. I had
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to buy four tickets and there's, um, someone in my
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party that doesn't want to be too high. So I
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had to stick to the lower bowl area and, um,
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was forced into, uh, one of the corners, Troy, um,
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Bay 119 or something like that, which is sort of
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between the 10 meter line and the touchline or the
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try line or somewhere around there. Like it's not, not
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the greatest, um, it's okay view, but it's not the
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greatest one, um, in terms of what I wanted in
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the middle of the field where all the good seats are. And, um, yeah,
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so I'm in a Panthers Bay Troy, which is good. Um,
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that's probably the one good thing about the tickets. Um,
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but yeah, it was really, really a surprise. Then we
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started having friends message us and say, Hey, we're having
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trouble too. So it wasn't just like us that was
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blocked out. It was, The entire Panthers community, Roosters community,
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NRL community couldn't access these premium spot tickets.
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Yeah. Now, I was half expecting that at 10 a.m.
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Tuesday when the general public tickets went on sale.
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Yeah.
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That those bays would all open up. Now, that did
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not happen.
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That didn't happen.
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They're still grayed out. And we are talking about five
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bays in the lower eastern grandstand, three bays in the
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upper eastern grandstand, and then about a dozen other bays
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when you combine both ends of the stadium. All around
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the stadium. I've been in contact with the NRL. I
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know you asked Panthers, and Panthers were just as baffled
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about this because, as we all know, this is an
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NRL game. We all know that. Panthers were just as baffled.
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Well, Panthers didn't even know. I was the first. I
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approached the media manager there, and I'm saying, hey, mate,
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do you know much about this, this ticketing fiasco, not
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being able to. to buy tickets in our bays, and
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he wasn't sure he was going to find out. And
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then I saw Matt Cameron roaming around.
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You hounded him.
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I went up to him, Troy.
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60 Minutes, current affairs style. I did.
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I went up to him. I said, hey, Matt, sorry
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to interrupt. I know this is probably above your pay grade, Matt,
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but are you aware of this ticketing issue? And I
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got my phone out, and I was showing him the
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graph or the seat map of the bays that were
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blocked out, and he said, you're right, this is above
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my pay grade. I don't know what you're talking about.
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I'm going to call someone higher up. and he instantly
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called someone and basically ran through the scenario with them,
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and then they confirmed that the NRL were responsible, and
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they're the ones that have greyed out or blocked out
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these seedings for a couple of reasons, Troy. You obviously
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got an official response.
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Yeah, I've been in contact with the NRL about this,
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and they've confirmed that, yes, it's related to basically their
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agreements with sponsors, potentially players' families, VIP, all sorts of
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reasons why they've got these these bays blacked out. So
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what I find interesting about this is, you know, we
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posted a bit about this on the Weekend website and socials,
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and a lot of the comments, I think, from the
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general rugby league community just reminding us that this is
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an NRL game. We know that it's an NRL game.
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We've been doing this for a long time. But it's
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funny about that response because they're like, oh, this is
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an NRL game so they can do what they want. Like,
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00:21:52.579 --> 00:21:55.740
hang on. Like, we're getting a bit lost here.
474
00:21:55.809 --> 00:21:55.940
These.
475
00:21:56.960 --> 00:21:59.480
Yes, it's an NRL game, but the people attending that
476
00:21:59.549 --> 00:22:01.630
NRL game are fans who have been there through the
477
00:22:02.130 --> 00:22:06.869
chilly winters, you know, supporting teams when these sponsors obviously
478
00:22:06.890 --> 00:22:08.730
don't because they don't seem to need these tickets any
479
00:22:08.769 --> 00:22:11.750
other time of the year. And just because the NRL
480
00:22:11.809 --> 00:22:13.849
owns the game, I don't think means that they should
481
00:22:14.369 --> 00:22:16.250
sit there and say, well, our priority of owning this
482
00:22:16.309 --> 00:22:19.569
game is to make sure our whole bunch– it's not
483
00:22:19.589 --> 00:22:22.940
just key sponsors. Like, we're talking thousands of tickets. We
484
00:22:22.980 --> 00:22:25.819
are going to hold back thousands of tickets from fans–
485
00:22:26.339 --> 00:22:28.579
to make sure that we put our sponsors and whatnot
486
00:22:28.619 --> 00:22:30.759
in what we deem the best seats. Yeah. You know,
487
00:22:30.799 --> 00:22:33.960
like people seem to be okay with that. I just
488
00:22:33.980 --> 00:22:36.690
find that odd because it's just– I actually think it's
489
00:22:36.930 --> 00:22:37.950
pretty disgraceful actually.
490
00:22:38.390 --> 00:22:40.529
I think it's one of the most ridiculous things we've
491
00:22:40.569 --> 00:22:44.470
encountered just doing this job, Troy. I mean we've come
492
00:22:44.509 --> 00:22:46.779
across some really weird stuff and we've gone on some
493
00:22:46.819 --> 00:22:50.220
crusades at the paper over the years. But this is
494
00:22:50.279 --> 00:22:54.640
right up there and it's a head scratcher for premium–
495
00:22:54.960 --> 00:23:00.220
These are the premium members' seats. You and I, people
496
00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:02.789
that we know, we sit in these seats the whole year.
497
00:23:02.809 --> 00:23:04.710
These are the top of the range seats. And for
498
00:23:04.730 --> 00:23:06.549
them not to be available, I'm not just saying just
499
00:23:06.569 --> 00:23:09.630
the Penrith fans, but to even Roosters fans, they can't
500
00:23:09.670 --> 00:23:10.250
even get them.
501
00:23:10.430 --> 00:23:12.069
Yeah, I've had some people write to me as well saying,
502
00:23:12.170 --> 00:23:13.670
you know, having a go. It's not a Penrith-only game.
503
00:23:14.089 --> 00:23:17.309
Just look, shock horror, everyone. We are a Penrith media organisation,
504
00:23:17.369 --> 00:23:20.720
so it is written with a Penrith slant. I'm sure
505
00:23:20.740 --> 00:23:23.730
that horrifies you. But yes, this does affect Roosters fans
506
00:23:23.769 --> 00:23:25.430
as well. It's not like we're saying they've given these
507
00:23:25.730 --> 00:23:28.549
tickets to Roosters fans. They're holding them for Barry and
508
00:23:28.589 --> 00:23:30.390
his family from Telstra, I guess. I don't know.
509
00:23:30.710 --> 00:23:31.430
It's bizarre.
510
00:23:31.450 --> 00:23:31.589
Yeah.
511
00:23:31.930 --> 00:23:35.400
And what makes it more bizarre, even more bizarre, is
512
00:23:35.420 --> 00:23:37.420
that we are talking about Combank Stadium here, where the
513
00:23:37.460 --> 00:23:42.339
entire Western grandstand, the whole thing is corporate for sponsors
514
00:23:42.619 --> 00:23:45.839
and media. You have a whole side of that grandstand
515
00:23:45.960 --> 00:23:47.140
to yourself to sort out.
516
00:23:47.160 --> 00:23:47.230
Yep.
517
00:23:47.880 --> 00:23:50.740
And yet you decided you're going to take dozens of
518
00:23:50.799 --> 00:23:53.740
bays away from members to look after sponsors. And by
519
00:23:53.789 --> 00:23:55.950
the way, we might release them later in the week
520
00:23:55.970 --> 00:23:57.849
as those sponsors might decide, oh, a little bit hot
521
00:23:57.930 --> 00:23:59.670
out there in Parramatta. I don't want to go.
522
00:23:59.690 --> 00:23:59.769
Yeah.
523
00:24:00.930 --> 00:24:03.349
And there's obviously a chance that there's going to be some,
524
00:24:03.609 --> 00:24:06.059
those grey seats are going to be actually grey seats.
525
00:24:06.259 --> 00:24:08.880
They could be. be some real empty spots there like
526
00:24:09.440 --> 00:24:12.390
it's just it's it's it's absolutely i can't i can't
527
00:24:12.609 --> 00:24:15.210
comprehend what they were thinking i mean this is the
528
00:24:15.250 --> 00:24:18.109
first time we've encountered something like this because obviously when
529
00:24:18.130 --> 00:24:20.369
we had week one at penrith park i don't i
530
00:24:20.769 --> 00:24:24.180
remember every everywhere was available essentially yeah you could just
531
00:24:24.299 --> 00:24:26.680
pick what bay you wanted and boom away you went
532
00:24:26.740 --> 00:24:29.599
but That's a lot of bays to be blocked out.
533
00:24:29.799 --> 00:24:32.420
That's a 30,000 seat stadium that you're looking at probably,
534
00:24:32.779 --> 00:24:36.079
you know, nearly 10,000 or more seats. Half the stadium
535
00:24:36.119 --> 00:24:36.680
was greyed out.
536
00:24:36.900 --> 00:24:40.680
Yeah. And this actually feeds into something else that I
537
00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:42.380
want to sort of talk about this week. And that
538
00:24:42.440 --> 00:24:44.619
is that people have been saying, in fact, even in
539
00:24:44.660 --> 00:24:47.200
response to this, oh, there's still plenty of tickets available. Sure.
540
00:24:47.869 --> 00:24:50.309
But they're not the best tickets. You know, we're talking
541
00:24:50.349 --> 00:24:52.289
tickets maybe at both ends of the ground and whatever.
542
00:24:52.309 --> 00:24:54.619
And we've had You know, a lot about this sort
543
00:24:54.640 --> 00:24:57.180
of call to arms, you know, like, oh, Penrith fans
544
00:24:57.200 --> 00:24:58.859
need to get there. And maybe we should, I think
545
00:24:58.920 --> 00:25:00.440
Andrew Voss said, we should be playing this game at
546
00:25:00.460 --> 00:25:03.329
a call because we should be looking for bigger things.
547
00:25:03.349 --> 00:25:06.329
We should be wanting 40 or 50,000. And then you've
548
00:25:06.349 --> 00:25:09.910
got the NRL obviously moving that Shark Park game that
549
00:25:09.930 --> 00:25:12.029
the Cronulla would have had, the home final against North
550
00:25:12.069 --> 00:25:15.509
Queensland to Allianz Stadium. Half of that was, I think,
551
00:25:15.549 --> 00:25:17.859
based on media pressure and a lot of journos saying
552
00:25:17.900 --> 00:25:21.289
it's ridiculous that we're playing a final at Shark Park. Again,
553
00:25:21.349 --> 00:25:23.609
forgetting that 10 years ago, we went back to home
554
00:25:23.650 --> 00:25:26.769
grounds because these week one finals were so poorly attended
555
00:25:26.789 --> 00:25:29.839
at big stadiums. You've got other people who are saying, oh,
556
00:25:29.859 --> 00:25:32.240
I just think all the finals should be played at
557
00:25:32.259 --> 00:25:35.220
the big stadiums. We shouldn't be having home finals. There's
558
00:25:35.319 --> 00:25:37.960
one common denominator with all of these people, and that
559
00:25:38.019 --> 00:25:40.000
is that none of them pay to go to the football.
560
00:25:41.269 --> 00:25:44.049
And they all either get paid to go to the football,
561
00:25:44.190 --> 00:25:46.509
or it's been a long time since they've shelled out
562
00:25:46.569 --> 00:25:49.799
money to be a member of to have to buy
563
00:25:49.960 --> 00:25:53.319
extra tickets during finals campaigns, to buy jerseys, to buy
564
00:25:53.339 --> 00:25:56.430
all that sort of stuff. And so I can completely
565
00:25:56.490 --> 00:26:01.369
understand when the ticket buying process is not easy, when
566
00:26:01.390 --> 00:26:03.730
you can't necessarily get the best seats, when you've got
567
00:26:03.750 --> 00:26:05.750
to figure out travel and all of that, why people
568
00:26:05.789 --> 00:26:09.470
do stay away. And it's not the easiest thing to
569
00:26:09.509 --> 00:26:11.880
do to get to the footy. And I think that
570
00:26:12.420 --> 00:26:15.220
any sort of criticism people have, well, hang on, let's
571
00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:17.380
have a look at what, as a Penrith fan, for example,
572
00:26:17.420 --> 00:26:20.650
imagine the the money that Penrith fans have spent on
573
00:26:20.730 --> 00:26:22.650
finals tickets in the last six years. Now, don't get
574
00:26:22.670 --> 00:26:25.410
me wrong, great problem to have. But a lot of
575
00:26:25.470 --> 00:26:27.269
fans will say, well, look, I won't go to week
576
00:26:27.430 --> 00:26:29.390
one because I'll go to a prelim. I can't afford
577
00:26:29.430 --> 00:26:31.349
to go to both. Or I'll save my money for
578
00:26:31.380 --> 00:26:34.200
the grand final. And that's why I actually think I'm
579
00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:36.579
happy to have that week one final at Cronulla. And
580
00:26:36.619 --> 00:26:39.299
I know Cronulla might only get one final. But I'm
581
00:26:39.319 --> 00:26:41.140
happy to say, look, if I'm a Sharks fan, I'm
582
00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:45.200
going to have two other opportunities, potentially, if we win,
583
00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:48.710
to go to finals matches at bigger stadiums. I'm happy
584
00:26:48.750 --> 00:26:51.150
to reward the fan who sat there in the middle
585
00:26:51.170 --> 00:26:53.609
of July on a Saturday night or a Thursday night
586
00:26:54.190 --> 00:26:55.789
and have it at the stadium. And I just think
587
00:26:55.829 --> 00:26:58.819
this week one, like we have three weeks of finals
588
00:26:58.859 --> 00:27:01.799
before even the grand final. Let week one feel a
589
00:27:01.819 --> 00:27:04.380
bit like a home situation, but also some of these
590
00:27:04.440 --> 00:27:07.460
people just, just wake up a little bit. You're, you're
591
00:27:07.500 --> 00:27:11.039
speaking from an uneducated position almost because you're not speaking
592
00:27:11.059 --> 00:27:13.640
from the true fan with the, the money situation and
593
00:27:13.660 --> 00:27:14.319
the circumstance.
594
00:27:14.759 --> 00:27:14.920
Yeah.
595
00:27:14.940 --> 00:27:18.880
A hundred percent. Like I, I, I'm, very very pleased
596
00:27:18.900 --> 00:27:21.970
that this is remaining at Parramatta and the NRL didn't
597
00:27:22.009 --> 00:27:24.369
do something silly and go oh yeah oh this is
598
00:27:24.390 --> 00:27:26.529
two Sydney teams let's just whack it at a call
599
00:27:26.569 --> 00:27:28.150
you know if they went imagine if it went to
600
00:27:28.210 --> 00:27:32.049
Allianz that would be more of an outrage um but
601
00:27:32.190 --> 00:27:34.410
uh yeah like yeah very grateful that we get to
602
00:27:34.630 --> 00:27:36.430
at least play the game at Parramatta as for the
603
00:27:36.470 --> 00:27:39.670
Shark Park thing well it's just it's a construction zone
604
00:27:39.710 --> 00:27:41.769
at the moment isn't it Troy I think that needs
605
00:27:41.789 --> 00:27:44.549
to be needs to be fixed.
606
00:27:44.609 --> 00:27:47.650
I get it i'm not i'm not actually criticizing the
607
00:27:47.670 --> 00:27:49.509
move because i get it i get why you've moved
608
00:27:49.549 --> 00:27:51.869
it but i'm also i look at it from that
609
00:27:51.910 --> 00:27:54.230
perspective as a sharks fan or whatever it is and
610
00:27:54.250 --> 00:27:56.549
i'm just like you know what let them have it
611
00:27:56.829 --> 00:27:58.329
let them have it in week one and and you
612
00:27:58.369 --> 00:28:00.849
know what's going to happen there's either going to be
613
00:28:00.869 --> 00:28:03.769
a crowd of 20 to 25 000 because they basically
614
00:28:03.809 --> 00:28:05.250
give away tickets or it's going to be a crowd
615
00:28:05.289 --> 00:28:06.950
of about 18 000 and i just look at it
616
00:28:06.990 --> 00:28:10.059
and go I don't agree with the argument, oh, yeah,
617
00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:11.700
but that's 5,000 more than we would have got at
618
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:14.799
Shark Park because it's a half-empty Allianz Stadium if that
619
00:28:14.859 --> 00:28:15.779
ends up being the crowd.
620
00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:18.140
You know, the NRL, it's all about money for the NRL.
621
00:28:18.339 --> 00:28:21.460
Okay. If I'm a Sharks fan, I wonder if most
622
00:28:21.500 --> 00:28:23.940
Sharks fans would have said, well, I'll pay double for
623
00:28:23.980 --> 00:28:27.869
my ticket if it's at Shark Park. But, look, this
624
00:28:27.920 --> 00:28:31.890
concerns me about the NRL. This concerns me a little bit.
625
00:28:32.029 --> 00:28:34.670
The Shark Park thing is one thing. The amount of
626
00:28:34.690 --> 00:28:37.349
tickets they're holding back, It's just I feel like they're
627
00:28:37.369 --> 00:28:39.049
being a little bit disconnected here from fans.
628
00:28:39.130 --> 00:28:41.450
And they've priced a lot of people out as well, Troy.
629
00:28:41.470 --> 00:28:44.069
I mean, when you bought your tickets, you gasped at
630
00:28:44.089 --> 00:28:45.950
how much you had to pay for a round one
631
00:28:46.029 --> 00:28:46.569
finals ticket.
632
00:28:46.589 --> 00:28:48.079
Look, now this is the other thing that I wanted
633
00:28:48.099 --> 00:28:51.359
to sort of mention as well. When people talk about, oh,
634
00:28:51.740 --> 00:28:53.599
it's a special, it's only $ 67 and you get a
635
00:28:53.640 --> 00:28:56.539
family ticket. Whenever they go on about these cheap prices,
636
00:28:56.559 --> 00:28:58.839
they're generally the worst seats in the house. They're generally
637
00:28:58.880 --> 00:29:00.680
behind the post. A lot of people like to be
638
00:29:00.700 --> 00:29:03.809
behind the post, but generally behind the post, general admission,
639
00:29:03.849 --> 00:29:06.299
that kind of thing. A lot of people now are like, well,
640
00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:08.519
I would rather a premium experience because I can sit
641
00:29:08.579 --> 00:29:12.660
home on TV, not paying $ 16 for a beer and
642
00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:15.319
a hot dog, and I can enjoy a great experience.
643
00:29:16.019 --> 00:29:19.220
So I want, at the ground, I want a better experience.
644
00:29:19.259 --> 00:29:21.720
So a lot of people want those premium seats. Now, yeah,
645
00:29:21.740 --> 00:29:23.380
it was $ 120, I think, for my seat in Bay 215.
646
00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:25.220
Not even free tissues because you're in the nosebleeds as well.
647
00:29:31.980 --> 00:29:32.700
You're high up.
648
00:29:32.819 --> 00:29:34.660
I'm high up, but it's Combank Stadium. It's not a core.
649
00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:35.079
I know, but.
650
00:29:35.099 --> 00:29:36.450
I'm not up at level six at a core or
651
00:29:36.490 --> 00:29:38.339
something like that. Have you ever been a level six
652
00:29:38.380 --> 00:29:40.160
at a core stadium? That is high.
653
00:29:40.180 --> 00:29:40.519
Yeah, I have.
654
00:29:40.579 --> 00:29:41.539
I was there for Oasis.
655
00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:42.680
That is high.
656
00:29:43.640 --> 00:29:44.220
But you know what I mean?
657
00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:47.200
Oasis, you've got to put– tribute band out there you
658
00:29:47.220 --> 00:29:48.240
wouldn't have known.
659
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:50.119
I wouldn't have known but no but like you're high
660
00:29:50.200 --> 00:29:52.200
up like you're not you're not in that bottom bowl
661
00:29:52.220 --> 00:29:56.509
where you're right close so you know that's just craziness.
662
00:29:55.990 --> 00:29:57.569
There is a bizarre thing though in rugby league where
663
00:29:57.609 --> 00:29:59.829
that second tier I don't necessarily agree with this is
664
00:29:59.849 --> 00:30:05.849
considered like better price wise but they consider sort of
665
00:30:06.009 --> 00:30:07.849
being up like penrith did this as well like our
666
00:30:07.890 --> 00:30:08.809
western stand.
667
00:30:08.539 --> 00:30:11.039
Tickets were more expensive but in combat like you and
668
00:30:11.140 --> 00:30:13.259
I were paying the same amount even though I was
669
00:30:13.299 --> 00:30:14.339
sitting close to the.
670
00:30:14.279 --> 00:30:19.609
Field but look I just think $ 120, okay, and you
671
00:30:19.670 --> 00:30:22.349
are going to buy a drink or you're going to
672
00:30:22.390 --> 00:30:24.710
get some food or whatever. So if you had a
673
00:30:24.750 --> 00:30:27.250
family of four doing that, you're talking like it's a
674
00:30:27.250 --> 00:30:28.880
$ 500 day out and we're only at week one.
675
00:30:28.890 --> 00:30:30.920
I remember going to a grand final a few years
676
00:30:30.940 --> 00:30:33.900
ago and I think paying like $ 160, $ 170 for like
677
00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:36.500
a ticket in the Panthers Bay like behind the post
678
00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:40.309
for a grand final. And these tickets used to be
679
00:30:40.410 --> 00:30:42.690
this much at Penrith. I think there were maybe 60
680
00:30:42.690 --> 00:30:43.309
for week one.
681
00:30:43.329 --> 00:30:45.490
Yeah. Do you remember that? I think there was definitely
682
00:30:45.789 --> 00:30:45.990
a 60.
683
00:30:45.970 --> 00:30:46.410
Yeah.
684
00:30:46.430 --> 00:30:48.789
Maybe 75. It wasn't too bad. I think it might
685
00:30:48.809 --> 00:30:51.319
have got to 75 in 2024. We doubled it two
686
00:30:51.690 --> 00:30:54.670
years later. We pretty much doubled to go see a
687
00:30:54.690 --> 00:30:59.039
week one final. I know. And I just think that
688
00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:03.079
maybe the NRL is starting. This is what worries me.
689
00:31:03.099 --> 00:31:05.619
You know when– it's like when a– I don't know,
690
00:31:05.680 --> 00:31:09.799
anything happens. When a singer– or a business goes from
691
00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:13.119
being the humble, like, thank you for your support, to
692
00:31:13.160 --> 00:31:15.259
now they're bigger than Ben-Hur, and suddenly they start to
693
00:31:15.299 --> 00:31:17.839
forget about the people that got them there.
694
00:31:17.859 --> 00:31:18.279
Yeah, for sure.
695
00:31:18.299 --> 00:31:20.680
And that worries me a little bit about the NRL
696
00:31:21.099 --> 00:31:23.690
at the moment, particularly because it's going so well more
697
00:31:23.730 --> 00:31:26.049
broadly that they just think, oh, power on, everything we're
698
00:31:26.069 --> 00:31:29.289
doing is great. But look, definitely some ticketing gripes there.
699
00:31:29.329 --> 00:31:31.609
And the biggest gripe I would have too is that
700
00:31:31.630 --> 00:31:33.650
if they do release these tickets, they're releasing some of
701
00:31:33.690 --> 00:31:36.769
the best tickets– later in the week when obviously the
702
00:31:36.789 --> 00:31:39.869
most loyal fans have already logged on as members and
703
00:31:39.930 --> 00:31:40.809
got them earlier.
704
00:31:40.829 --> 00:31:42.890
Yeah, because there was the risk that, hey, do I
705
00:31:43.029 --> 00:31:46.250
just leave it and hope that these sections open up,
706
00:31:46.269 --> 00:31:48.529
which we think they will. Some might be on Friday
707
00:31:48.569 --> 00:31:50.430
or Saturday it might open up. That's too late. What
708
00:31:50.450 --> 00:31:53.049
if you risk it and then you're really screwed?
709
00:31:53.109 --> 00:31:55.539
By then you've decided too, well, I know what I'm doing,
710
00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:57.359
so what, we're going to have these empty seats? It's
711
00:31:57.400 --> 00:32:00.160
just weird. The other thing that I thought was interesting,
712
00:32:00.180 --> 00:32:02.160
and maybe I can stand corrected here, I know that
713
00:32:02.180 --> 00:32:06.000
there's a– a transaction limit of eight tickets. So we've
714
00:32:06.019 --> 00:32:09.430
known this forever. So that's cool. Eight tickets, that's the rule.
715
00:32:09.450 --> 00:32:11.410
But I have always been able to go back in,
716
00:32:12.289 --> 00:32:15.650
not with the same member code, but with, you know,
717
00:32:15.710 --> 00:32:17.529
the general admission sale and pick up more tickets. I've
718
00:32:17.549 --> 00:32:19.490
done it, you know, maybe my mum's wanted some tickets
719
00:32:19.569 --> 00:32:20.950
or something like that. So yeah, we'll go back in
720
00:32:20.970 --> 00:32:24.900
and get them or use the other members code because
721
00:32:24.940 --> 00:32:27.660
I have two memberships. One for my wife, which is
722
00:32:28.019 --> 00:32:33.549
very underutilised and one for me. Now, yesterday... I went
723
00:32:33.609 --> 00:32:38.049
back in with her code and was accepted and then
724
00:32:38.089 --> 00:32:41.109
denied within seconds. It refunded it straight away and it said, look,
725
00:32:41.130 --> 00:32:44.170
you have your eight tickets to this event. So then
726
00:32:44.190 --> 00:32:47.259
I was like, okay, that's weird. So today I waited
727
00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:49.059
and I went into the general sale where I needed
728
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:51.079
to buy two extra tickets and the same thing happened.
729
00:32:51.099 --> 00:32:54.359
Now I've confirmed with the NRL, it's eight tickets to
730
00:32:54.380 --> 00:32:56.740
the event, sir. We do not want your money if
731
00:32:56.779 --> 00:32:58.279
you want an extra two people to come along.
732
00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:00.920
And now is that tied to the credit card or
733
00:33:00.940 --> 00:33:01.680
to your Ticketmaster account?
734
00:33:01.700 --> 00:33:02.720
To the Ticketmaster account.
735
00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:03.980
Does it matter about the credit card?
736
00:33:04.049 --> 00:33:04.220
No.
737
00:33:04.309 --> 00:33:07.670
So I could have– my mum can get her own
738
00:33:07.710 --> 00:33:10.210
tickets or whatever. Sure, get another Ticketmaster account. But I'm
739
00:33:10.230 --> 00:33:12.750
like– and I get maybe they're trying to do it
740
00:33:12.769 --> 00:33:15.569
like fraud and I'm going to on-sell tickets. I get that.
741
00:33:15.630 --> 00:33:17.789
But we're in a period of time where people go
742
00:33:17.809 --> 00:33:19.029
with big groups of people.
743
00:33:19.369 --> 00:33:20.190
Yeah.
744
00:33:21.690 --> 00:33:23.750
Or you might buy them from other half of people
745
00:33:23.769 --> 00:33:27.430
who don't necessarily– aren't great at buying tickets. I'm a
746
00:33:27.470 --> 00:33:28.210
very good ticket buyer.
747
00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:31.990
Yes, I consider myself a good ticket buyer. Very stressful experience,
748
00:33:32.009 --> 00:33:33.430
but I managed to get them, yes.
749
00:33:33.789 --> 00:33:37.509
And I just find it interesting that the NRL is saying, sorry, sir,
750
00:33:38.069 --> 00:33:40.269
even in the general sale, you are not allowed to
751
00:33:40.309 --> 00:33:41.829
buy two extra tickets to this match.
752
00:33:42.089 --> 00:33:42.970
Unbelievable.
753
00:33:43.130 --> 00:33:45.119
You cannot have them. You can come to the box office,
754
00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:46.619
I guess, on the day and buy them.
755
00:33:46.779 --> 00:33:48.579
Try your luck. You'll probably get some good seats, actually,
756
00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:49.059
on the day.
757
00:33:49.099 --> 00:33:51.819
Those two seats, you cannot have them because you already
758
00:33:51.880 --> 00:33:54.039
have eight seats to this game. Now, those eight seats
759
00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:57.109
are for my mates and myself. I bought them. on
760
00:33:57.150 --> 00:34:00.079
everyone's behalf, and now I need two for someone else.
761
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:03.980
They don't care where they sit, but thanks to Ticketmaster,
762
00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:07.089
I could have put them near me. No, it doesn't work.
763
00:34:07.140 --> 00:34:10.090
So what's your workaround? What was your hack? How did
764
00:34:10.110 --> 00:34:10.929
you get around it?
765
00:34:10.969 --> 00:34:15.949
I wouldn't comment on that. Someone in the office may
766
00:34:15.969 --> 00:34:20.050
have got a new Ticketmaster account. Okay, good, good. But look,
767
00:34:20.070 --> 00:34:21.929
we want to hear about your finals ticketing gripes, if
768
00:34:22.030 --> 00:34:26.989
there is some, and let us know. Podcast at westernweekender.com.au. Now, Nathan,
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we will get to the other finals soon too, but...
791
00:35:44.070 --> 00:35:46.730
Want to hit some other matters. You were at Panthers
792
00:35:46.929 --> 00:35:49.869
HQ today. Busy time. Very busy. This time of year,
793
00:35:49.889 --> 00:35:52.550
it's like some journos come out of hibernation as well.
794
00:35:52.630 --> 00:35:54.309
And we start to see a few that don't normally
795
00:35:54.369 --> 00:35:57.039
make the gruelling trek down the M4.
796
00:35:57.440 --> 00:36:01.340
Yeah, Troy. I rocked up probably 15 minutes early this morning.
797
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:04.519
It started at 9am and probably about a dozen people
798
00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:07.500
were already there. So they must have... They all think
799
00:36:07.539 --> 00:36:09.619
it takes two and a half hours. Well, yeah, that's true.
800
00:36:09.659 --> 00:36:12.619
They all come from far and wide. Some people drive there.
801
00:36:12.659 --> 00:36:15.329
Some people get ubers or whatever to get to a
802
00:36:15.429 --> 00:36:18.699
walk i saw adrian brzenko walking really yeah i don't
803
00:36:18.719 --> 00:36:20.579
know where he was coming from but yeah he was
804
00:36:20.619 --> 00:36:23.659
walking um walking to the to the academy from from
805
00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:26.409
somewhere uh so uh yeah it was a good turnout
806
00:36:27.090 --> 00:36:30.210
um surprisingly brent reed showed up half an hour late
807
00:36:30.230 --> 00:36:32.269
i'm not sure what he was doing there um i
808
00:36:32.289 --> 00:36:34.449
didn't see him actually interview anyone he was just sort
809
00:36:34.469 --> 00:36:37.840
of Hanging around. But definitely a first for the year
810
00:36:37.860 --> 00:36:40.260
seeing Brent Reid. So I know there's some Brent Reid
811
00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:43.090
spotters out there on X and Twitter and ask me
812
00:36:43.130 --> 00:36:45.889
all the time, has Brent Reid come? Well, you can
813
00:36:45.929 --> 00:36:49.070
restart that count today, folks. He was there on, what
814
00:36:49.150 --> 00:36:52.309
day is it? September 8th, day zero.
815
00:36:52.530 --> 00:36:52.909
Brent Reid.
816
00:36:52.929 --> 00:36:53.250
There it is.
817
00:36:53.250 --> 00:36:53.909
Brent Reid watch.
818
00:36:54.269 --> 00:36:54.989
There you go.
819
00:36:54.989 --> 00:36:55.570
He's been there.
820
00:36:56.429 --> 00:36:58.320
Now, while you were there, you had a chat with
821
00:36:58.340 --> 00:37:02.460
Tom Jenkins. Asked him about, of course, his equaling. the
822
00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:06.820
try-scoring record this year with Alex Johnston, 30 tries apiece.
823
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:08.559
So we'll have a listen to a bit of that chat.
824
00:37:09.099 --> 00:37:12.960
Well, mate, congrats on the equal try-scoring record.
825
00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:13.030
The other day.
826
00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:14.699
I'm sure you're getting asked about it a lot, but
827
00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:16.460
it got close there in the end, didn't it?
828
00:37:16.539 --> 00:37:18.030
Yeah, it did.
829
00:37:18.789 --> 00:37:22.050
I guess you could say at half-time, most would be
830
00:37:22.070 --> 00:37:23.489
thinking that I was going to get another, so.
831
00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:26.940
yeah it was cool but it's also just cool to
832
00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:28.679
be able to share it with AJ I said it
833
00:37:28.699 --> 00:37:31.199
just then he's such a quality player I enjoy watching
834
00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:35.659
him and yeah it's a cool thing to be able
835
00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:36.199
to I.
836
00:37:36.099 --> 00:37:38.420
Guess have yeah sharing with a legend like you yeah
837
00:37:38.460 --> 00:37:40.739
it's crazy do they create two medals yeah you would
838
00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:42.320
or you get to share and you have it.
839
00:37:42.300 --> 00:37:43.650
For six months you have it for six months oh
840
00:37:43.690 --> 00:37:45.150
I'm not too sure to be fair he's played less
841
00:37:45.190 --> 00:37:48.429
games so he's probably more deserving so if it comes
842
00:37:48.469 --> 00:37:51.650
down to that then I can I can yeah he
843
00:37:51.670 --> 00:37:53.190
can have it if that's what it needs to be
844
00:37:53.210 --> 00:37:55.699
he's he's such a quality player.
845
00:37:57.190 --> 00:38:00.690
Was it on your mind in that final game? You
846
00:38:00.730 --> 00:38:02.510
were leading the whole year up until probably the last
847
00:38:02.550 --> 00:38:04.269
two weeks. Was it on your mind to, no, I
848
00:38:04.309 --> 00:38:04.650
want this?
849
00:38:06.150 --> 00:38:08.710
Not massively in that sense. I more just wanted to
850
00:38:08.730 --> 00:38:12.590
put out a good performance and I guess you score
851
00:38:12.769 --> 00:38:15.349
one and then you can hear it and then I
852
00:38:15.949 --> 00:38:20.349
scored the second and thought, oh, maybe. But in saying that,
853
00:38:20.530 --> 00:38:23.079
it was so early in the game and Um, once
854
00:38:23.139 --> 00:38:24.760
it sort of got, maybe the last 20 minutes was
855
00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:26.280
when I was like, oh, let's see if we can,
856
00:38:26.300 --> 00:38:28.719
we can get one. But it wasn't a big deal.
857
00:38:29.099 --> 00:38:30.699
And Nate said in the post-match, he didn't want any
858
00:38:30.860 --> 00:38:32.880
cheap tries as well on this journey as well. So
859
00:38:32.920 --> 00:38:34.920
are you proud of that? That all your tries were,
860
00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:36.219
none of them were cheap.
861
00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:38.639
Yeah, I guess. I'm pretty lucky.
862
00:38:38.659 --> 00:38:39.179
I've got Case.
863
00:38:39.780 --> 00:38:43.420
Um, Case on my right-hand side. He's usually setting, setting
864
00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:44.079
me up for a few.
865
00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:46.559
So, uh, you could say there'd be a few cheap
866
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:48.170
ones there, but nah, I didn't want any of it.
867
00:38:48.179 --> 00:38:51.659
Um, run of the way, just pass him, pass him
868
00:38:51.699 --> 00:38:54.480
in the end goal. I just wanted, um, ones that
869
00:38:54.500 --> 00:38:56.460
I earned. Uh, if I got him, I got him.
870
00:38:56.519 --> 00:38:57.059
If I didn't, I didn't.
871
00:38:57.780 --> 00:39:01.719
Uh, that's sort of the thought around it. That's Tom Jenkins. So, um, yeah,
872
00:39:01.739 --> 00:39:03.489
he was, uh, look, he, he could have got a
873
00:39:03.510 --> 00:39:06.389
little sneaky try there from Dylan Edwards to make it 31. But, um,
874
00:39:06.409 --> 00:39:10.230
I think even, uh, Nathan Cleary said in the post-match
875
00:39:10.269 --> 00:39:11.889
presser that he didn't want any of those gifts.
876
00:39:12.250 --> 00:39:15.199
Yeah, yeah, exactly right. No, I think he's very grateful
877
00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:17.679
to have the red-hot season that he had, like he said.
878
00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:20.119
And he even was gracious enough, he thought, is that
879
00:39:20.179 --> 00:39:22.500
Alex Johnson's probably paid less games than me and scored
880
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:25.250
the same amount. Give him the Ken Irvine medal. What
881
00:39:25.289 --> 00:39:26.550
a nice guy Milky is.
882
00:39:27.489 --> 00:39:29.610
We can blame Patrick Herbert, too, the Tigers' centre, because
883
00:39:29.670 --> 00:39:32.860
Casey McGrath... got over three times and didn't need to
884
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:36.920
pass it over to Tom Jenkins. Now, Panthers memberships. This
885
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:41.050
is interesting. They have quietly appeared online. There's been no
886
00:39:41.150 --> 00:39:43.449
formal announcement, but we've had a, A bit of a
887
00:39:43.469 --> 00:39:47.400
detailed look at the memberships next year. There's been a
888
00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:51.230
few interesting things. Anything in particular hit your interest there, Nathan?
889
00:39:51.750 --> 00:39:56.170
Yeah, Troy, of course. Yeah, like they've obviously our first
890
00:39:56.210 --> 00:39:59.570
year back at Halloworld Stadium, the new Penrith Park for
891
00:39:59.909 --> 00:40:02.050
after two years at ComBank. And we finally get a
892
00:40:02.070 --> 00:40:04.570
bit of insight as to some of the packages that
893
00:40:04.610 --> 00:40:07.679
are available, Troy, and the seat map as well. And
894
00:40:07.739 --> 00:40:10.340
how some of the, speaking of bays and caesars, it
895
00:40:10.380 --> 00:40:13.539
feels like this is the topic for seating. We get
896
00:40:13.559 --> 00:40:16.670
an insight as to where people are going to be seated,
897
00:40:16.710 --> 00:40:19.010
whether it's in the West or the East. The hills
898
00:40:19.110 --> 00:40:22.090
are a bit of a topic of discussion as well,
899
00:40:22.130 --> 00:40:25.210
which we'll mention, Troy. But, yeah, there's some new categories
900
00:40:25.250 --> 00:40:27.750
as well that's been announced. So you and I, we're
901
00:40:27.809 --> 00:40:31.869
Platinum members. We are currently Platinum members at ComBank, but
902
00:40:31.909 --> 00:40:35.090
there's another membership that's about to be released called the
903
00:40:35.139 --> 00:40:39.739
Diamond Package, which is one above the Platinum, right, Troy?
904
00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:43.590
Well, it is, and I would have to argue... that if, uh,
905
00:40:43.630 --> 00:40:46.429
Panthers are to keep their original promise, which was that you,
906
00:40:46.489 --> 00:40:48.889
if you were a 2024 member and you stayed a
907
00:40:48.929 --> 00:40:52.570
ticketed member at ComBank in 2025 and 2026, that you
908
00:40:52.610 --> 00:40:57.110
would get first priority on return, including the, um, you know,
909
00:40:57.210 --> 00:41:00.150
equivalent seats, the best that they could, like for like.
910
00:41:00.190 --> 00:41:02.309
Now for that to be like for like in both
911
00:41:02.349 --> 00:41:04.429
of our circumstances, we would have to go from a
912
00:41:04.750 --> 00:41:08.469
platinum membership to this newly created diamond membership. Um, which
913
00:41:08.489 --> 00:41:12.019
is a bit more expensive. Um, But those are sort
914
00:41:12.039 --> 00:41:15.769
of the three middle bays on the west and the
915
00:41:15.909 --> 00:41:19.929
three sort of upper bays in the east. Now, what
916
00:41:19.969 --> 00:41:23.530
people might be interested in, Western Stand members, you're going back.
917
00:41:23.659 --> 00:41:25.880
I know that there's– I still hear people talk about this.
918
00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:27.639
I hear some people in the crowd the other day
919
00:41:28.159 --> 00:41:31.300
still not believing– that they're going back to the Western Stand,
920
00:41:31.380 --> 00:41:35.000
but the seats are there. That promise has been fulfilled
921
00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:36.920
in terms of the seats being there.
922
00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:40.019
Are there enough seats there, Troy? Yes. Okay, so I
923
00:41:40.039 --> 00:41:42.119
was told today by Panthers, and they said we can
924
00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:45.579
say this on air, that if you were undercover at
925
00:41:45.619 --> 00:41:48.440
the last stadium and weren't getting wet, you will be
926
00:41:48.519 --> 00:41:49.940
undercover in this stadium.
927
00:41:50.340 --> 00:41:50.500
Yep.
928
00:41:50.519 --> 00:41:51.119
Okay? Okay.
929
00:41:51.530 --> 00:41:53.670
So is that going to– is some of it going
930
00:41:53.690 --> 00:41:56.190
to have to shift to the east to accommodate everyone
931
00:41:56.210 --> 00:41:58.880
in the west being undercover? Maybe, but– Or is there
932
00:41:58.900 --> 00:41:59.480
going to be enough?
933
00:41:59.820 --> 00:42:02.900
But I saw a photo, a photo that pretty much
934
00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:07.539
showed the west is pretty well almost all covered. So
935
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:08.099
I don't know.
936
00:42:08.119 --> 00:42:13.070
Yeah, but the closer you get, obviously, you're in trouble.
937
00:42:13.449 --> 00:42:16.409
But look, possibly, but I think put it this way,
938
00:42:16.449 --> 00:42:19.269
at least the seats are there. That promise was fulfilled.
939
00:42:19.309 --> 00:42:21.210
We fought hard for that. Everyone fought hard for that.
940
00:42:21.269 --> 00:42:22.210
I want to stay in the West.
941
00:42:22.250 --> 00:42:25.559
That we were not going to have the Western stand
942
00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:28.460
be all corporate like it is at CommBank because it
943
00:42:28.500 --> 00:42:30.880
shouldn't be like that. Yes, the other thing you mentioned
944
00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:33.139
is the hill. Now, we are seeking answers on this one.
945
00:42:33.179 --> 00:42:33.579
We are.
946
00:42:33.619 --> 00:42:36.219
We haven't got an official answer yet. But the seat
947
00:42:36.260 --> 00:42:42.400
map specifically says south standing on what was the Beer Hill.
948
00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:42.960
Yep.
949
00:42:43.940 --> 00:42:48.000
And north standing on what is the Family Hill. Yep. Now,
950
00:42:48.989 --> 00:42:51.070
I'm not sure what that means. Does that mean if
951
00:42:51.110 --> 00:42:55.150
I turn up with a picnic basket– sorry, picnic rug
952
00:42:56.010 --> 00:42:58.130
and want to sit there, which you can do in–
953
00:42:58.429 --> 00:43:00.829
you know, it's been harder to do in recent times
954
00:43:00.889 --> 00:43:03.349
because the crowds have been so massive. But, you know,
955
00:43:03.590 --> 00:43:06.480
middle of winter– crowd of 12 or 13,000, you've typically
956
00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:08.659
been able to do that. Is that out? Are we
957
00:43:08.699 --> 00:43:13.030
saying that no sitting? If I sit down, someone's going
958
00:43:13.050 --> 00:43:13.690
to come and say.
959
00:43:14.389 --> 00:43:16.829
If your kid sits down, get up, get up, get up. Look,
960
00:43:17.110 --> 00:43:19.809
I spoke to Panthers today and they were a bit
961
00:43:20.630 --> 00:43:23.610
coy about the whole thing. They wanted to prepare a
962
00:43:24.510 --> 00:43:26.469
better answer for me. So they didn't want to give
963
00:43:26.530 --> 00:43:29.789
too much away. But I believe that you will be
964
00:43:29.849 --> 00:43:30.389
able to sit.
965
00:43:30.409 --> 00:43:31.070
Okay.
966
00:43:31.190 --> 00:43:34.389
You will be able to sit. Don't quote me, but
967
00:43:34.449 --> 00:43:36.530
I got the impression that, no, that's, as I said,
968
00:43:36.550 --> 00:43:38.050
what if you want to sit down with a picnic blanket?
969
00:43:38.090 --> 00:43:40.889
And they sort of looked at me going on, that
970
00:43:40.929 --> 00:43:43.110
should be fine, but we've got to double check.
971
00:43:43.500 --> 00:43:46.599
How are we dealing with this? Are we serious? Are
972
00:43:46.639 --> 00:43:49.039
we serious? There's got to be a reason that that
973
00:43:49.099 --> 00:43:50.780
word is there, standing.
974
00:43:50.820 --> 00:43:53.980
Now, a cynic- I know where you're going with this.
975
00:43:54.000 --> 00:44:01.940
Would suggest that to- justify this supposed increase in capacity...
976
00:44:01.139 --> 00:44:05.480
To 25,000. You are saying that, well, this is the
977
00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:07.500
capacity of the hills if everyone is standing.
978
00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:08.619
Yeah.
979
00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:11.639
So is that what the reason they're calling it standing?
980
00:44:12.869 --> 00:44:15.670
Is it still going to be the family hill? I
981
00:44:15.690 --> 00:44:17.630
don't think you could buy alcohol on that hill.
982
00:44:17.650 --> 00:44:18.269
No, you couldn't, no.
983
00:44:19.050 --> 00:44:21.650
There is one alcohol-free bay. The other thing, of course,
984
00:44:21.730 --> 00:44:26.650
is there appears to be no general admission seating. So...
985
00:44:27.340 --> 00:44:27.699
So if you.
986
00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:30.260
Are general admission, you have to stand on the hills.
987
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:31.679
That's correct? You have to stand on the hill. You
988
00:44:31.699 --> 00:44:32.110
won't be able to sit.
989
00:44:32.139 --> 00:44:33.139
The standing seats, yes.
990
00:44:33.719 --> 00:44:37.519
The standing seats. Now, that's interesting because that previously was
991
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:40.780
not the case. There was some areas. I mean, over
992
00:44:40.800 --> 00:44:42.420
the years, that changed a lot. There was a time
993
00:44:42.460 --> 00:44:44.940
when that whole sort of terrace was general admission and whatever.
994
00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:47.719
That changed over the years. The den, if you're a
995
00:44:47.800 --> 00:44:51.119
den member, what I find interesting about being a den
996
00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:53.260
member is that the den is going to be three
997
00:44:53.340 --> 00:44:58.489
bays and On the eastern side, eastern terrace, closest to
998
00:44:58.570 --> 00:45:02.550
the Beer Hill, that's the den. But there's three den bays,
999
00:45:02.610 --> 00:45:05.829
and they're all different levels. So there's a bronze den,
1000
00:45:06.349 --> 00:45:09.590
a silver den, and a gold den. Okay. So that's
1001
00:45:09.630 --> 00:45:11.530
interesting that you can be in the den.
1002
00:45:11.550 --> 00:45:13.730
Because the den used to be general admin or– I
1003
00:45:13.730 --> 00:45:14.329
think at one.
1004
00:45:14.230 --> 00:45:15.250
Stage it was general admin.
1005
00:45:15.289 --> 00:45:15.510
Right.
1006
00:45:15.550 --> 00:45:16.789
Yeah, like, you know, it was just you had a
1007
00:45:16.789 --> 00:45:20.909
den membership and sat in there. So that's interesting. Okay.
1008
00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:26.409
Then the other thing, which we've also discovered, is that
1009
00:45:26.449 --> 00:45:30.690
Panthers will be implementing the ability to, they're calling it lease,
1010
00:45:31.429 --> 00:45:34.090
sell your seat for a game if you can't go. So,
1011
00:45:34.489 --> 00:45:36.070
you know, you've committed to go to a wedding.
1012
00:45:36.619 --> 00:45:36.800
Yep.
1013
00:45:36.980 --> 00:45:40.139
Some idiot's put their wedding on Panthers Titans round eight.
1014
00:45:40.380 --> 00:45:40.559
Yep.
1015
00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:43.760
Without looking at the draw. And you can't, you've decided
1016
00:45:43.780 --> 00:45:47.719
to go to the wedding. and your seat's not going
1017
00:45:47.739 --> 00:45:50.420
to be available, so you think, great, I'll get my
1018
00:45:50.420 --> 00:45:52.179
$ 50 back, right? That's how it works?
1019
00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:53.139
Yeah.
1020
00:45:53.139 --> 00:45:53.539
$ 50 back?
1021
00:45:53.619 --> 00:45:55.960
Well, yeah, depending on how much your seat is worth,
1022
00:45:56.019 --> 00:45:56.260
I guess.
1023
00:45:56.300 --> 00:45:57.880
Okay. And I get the $ 50, do I not?
1024
00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:00.159
Well, that would be the smart idea, yes.
1025
00:46:00.739 --> 00:46:01.800
That appears not to be the case.
1026
00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:03.480
Who gets the cash?
1027
00:46:03.880 --> 00:46:08.119
So you'll get a membership, a Panther Shop voucher, but
1028
00:46:08.139 --> 00:46:10.869
it would appear that Panthers nets the cash essentially for
1029
00:46:10.909 --> 00:46:13.900
a second time. So I find that a bit odd.
1030
00:46:14.780 --> 00:46:18.900
Maybe Panthers can justify how that works. So say I've paid,
1031
00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:22.619
I think, $ 60, right? The equivalent of $ 60 per game
1032
00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:26.260
to be a Diamond member. I would have thought that
1033
00:46:26.300 --> 00:46:28.500
maybe I could sell that and maybe someone would buy
1034
00:46:28.539 --> 00:46:30.719
it for $ 40 or even the $ 60 and I would
1035
00:46:30.739 --> 00:46:35.070
get the $ 60. Maybe minus a fee for the admin
1036
00:46:35.110 --> 00:46:38.349
of it, but apparently not. Apparently if that person pays $ 60,
1037
00:46:38.050 --> 00:46:40.550
Panthers is getting the $ 60 that they've already got from me. Mm-hmm.
1038
00:46:41.099 --> 00:46:43.659
And then they're giving me a merch voucher to some value.
1039
00:46:43.699 --> 00:46:45.280
I'm not sure. It doesn't say what value.
1040
00:46:45.579 --> 00:46:47.320
Well, you'd think it would, you'd hope it would be
1041
00:46:47.340 --> 00:46:49.340
to the amount that your seat is, right? I would
1042
00:46:49.360 --> 00:46:52.940
imagine so, but why can't I just get the cash?
1043
00:46:53.340 --> 00:46:55.039
Isn't this being, this will be being done through a
1044
00:46:55.059 --> 00:46:57.420
ticket master, I presume. Yeah.
1045
00:46:57.480 --> 00:47:00.420
Or ticket tech or whoever's looking after the venue. So
1046
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:02.820
Panthers wouldn't even have anything to do with it. So
1047
00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:04.860
why can't we just, it happened at that level.
1048
00:47:05.239 --> 00:47:05.489
Yeah.
1049
00:47:05.530 --> 00:47:07.989
Look, it's, it's obviously something I don't think we've encountered
1050
00:47:08.030 --> 00:47:10.780
in the NRL before where, you know, you can, you
1051
00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:13.880
can on-sell your ticket. Obviously in the States, in America,
1052
00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:16.139
a lot of people that go to basketball games.
1053
00:47:16.280 --> 00:47:17.610
I bought an NBA game.
1054
00:47:17.650 --> 00:47:18.550
NFL games.
1055
00:47:18.610 --> 00:47:21.070
Madison Square Garden. I presume that the guy I bought it,
1056
00:47:21.090 --> 00:47:21.630
I've got the money.
1057
00:47:21.650 --> 00:47:22.210
Correct.
1058
00:47:22.389 --> 00:47:22.630
Correct.
1059
00:47:22.690 --> 00:47:25.210
Yeah. You buy it off a seat geek or one
1060
00:47:25.230 --> 00:47:28.510
of those reseller apps. And that's how you go to
1061
00:47:28.530 --> 00:47:31.150
the game. And you're essentially buying someone's season ticket or
1062
00:47:31.170 --> 00:47:33.110
someone that can't go to the game. You buy their
1063
00:47:33.150 --> 00:47:36.230
ticket and they can actually set the price for those tickets, Troy.
1064
00:47:36.269 --> 00:47:39.230
The sellers can, can, can set the price and, You know,
1065
00:47:39.250 --> 00:47:42.250
if it's a premium game or a sold-out game, they
1066
00:47:42.269 --> 00:47:44.389
can jack up the price. And that's just how it
1067
00:47:44.449 --> 00:47:45.989
works over in the States. Whether we need to do
1068
00:47:46.050 --> 00:47:46.789
that here, I don't know.
1069
00:47:46.809 --> 00:47:48.369
I don't even know if that's allowed to happen here.
1070
00:47:48.409 --> 00:47:50.300
We do have some sort of resale rule.
1071
00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:53.340
Sure, but at least the seller gets the money. So
1072
00:47:53.360 --> 00:47:55.559
Panthers are getting the money. Then they're giving you a voucher.
1073
00:47:55.579 --> 00:47:57.579
Then you're giving back that voucher to Panthers because you're
1074
00:47:57.599 --> 00:48:00.659
getting some of their merch, which, you know, you're going
1075
00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:01.300
to– All that.
1076
00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:04.800
Encourages to me is that I'm going to just give
1077
00:48:04.820 --> 00:48:06.949
someone the ticket or sell it on the– We'll call
1078
00:48:06.969 --> 00:48:08.070
it the black market. I don't know if there's a
1079
00:48:08.070 --> 00:48:11.320
black market for Panthers membership tickets, but I'm more likely
1080
00:48:11.340 --> 00:48:12.320
just to give that to someone.
1081
00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:14.159
Just how you do it. Yeah, yeah.
1082
00:48:14.179 --> 00:48:14.719
Have my seat.
1083
00:48:14.780 --> 00:48:14.980
Yeah.
1084
00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:16.219
It seems a lot easier.
1085
00:48:16.739 --> 00:48:19.639
Yeah. Very odd. The other thing I found interesting, which
1086
00:48:19.679 --> 00:48:25.280
I'm not– look, do I need another Panthers hat or
1087
00:48:25.320 --> 00:48:28.360
Panthers piece of merch? Probably not. But we appear to
1088
00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:33.949
be going away from the member plus store, which was
1089
00:48:33.989 --> 00:48:36.449
a disaster in the first year. I remember that like
1090
00:48:36.469 --> 00:48:39.389
it was the world's worst website. And I think you
1091
00:48:39.409 --> 00:48:42.639
had a $ 75 or depending on your membership level probably,
1092
00:48:42.659 --> 00:48:44.619
a voucher to spend. And some of the merch was
1093
00:48:44.679 --> 00:48:46.639
okay and some of it was not so okay. But
1094
00:48:46.659 --> 00:48:48.280
I didn't mind it because with $ 75 you can still,
1095
00:48:48.320 --> 00:48:50.539
you know, you can still buy some decent stuff.
1096
00:48:50.579 --> 00:48:53.389
Because they replaced that. You used to get a hat
1097
00:48:53.449 --> 00:48:55.269
and you used to get maybe a scarf or some
1098
00:48:55.309 --> 00:48:56.230
other bits and pieces.
1099
00:48:56.250 --> 00:48:56.329
Yeah.
1100
00:48:57.139 --> 00:48:58.659
When you became a member and then they're like, oh,
1101
00:48:58.679 --> 00:49:00.780
people got enough of these. Let's give them choice. So
1102
00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:02.110
we'll give them a voucher.
1103
00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:04.449
So it appears this year we're going back to a
1104
00:49:04.570 --> 00:49:10.889
Panther Shop voucher, $ 30 for a member. Now, I don't
1105
00:49:10.909 --> 00:49:13.309
think $ 30 buys you even a hat, does it?
1106
00:49:13.550 --> 00:49:15.730
It probably maybe just might get you a hat.
1107
00:49:16.269 --> 00:49:18.190
I'm just, I don't know. I look at that and go,
1108
00:49:18.230 --> 00:49:20.280
I want, and look, maybe we'll do, it on the
1109
00:49:20.300 --> 00:49:22.420
podcast one day. We'll compare what other clubs are doing.
1110
00:49:23.019 --> 00:49:27.719
But I feel like I want some sort of exclusive
1111
00:49:28.340 --> 00:49:30.380
members thing. I open a box and I'm like, how
1112
00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:31.780
good is this? I've got this year, I've got a hat.
1113
00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:33.420
Or this year, I've got a stubby hat. Like, whatever
1114
00:49:33.460 --> 00:49:36.780
it is. Yeah. I think the $ 30 voucher thing, yeah.
1115
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:38.320
Yeah, yeah, no, I agree.
1116
00:49:38.360 --> 00:49:38.610
I think.
1117
00:49:39.980 --> 00:49:43.730
These memberships have gotten more and more expensive. I remember
1118
00:49:43.750 --> 00:49:47.090
when I first started going, being a Panthers member 15
1119
00:49:47.090 --> 00:49:50.900
years ago, I was in Platinum where I am now, $ 280, $ 300.
1120
00:49:50.550 --> 00:49:54.010
Now we're there with the dark old dingy days and
1121
00:49:54.250 --> 00:49:56.909
everything's gone up in price. But from next year, I
1122
00:49:57.510 --> 00:50:00.519
think my ticket's going to be $ 600 for 10 games.
1123
00:50:00.539 --> 00:50:02.480
Which we should say is not that much more expensive
1124
00:50:02.500 --> 00:50:04.900
than now. So this isn't a return to Hello World thing.
1125
00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:07.079
But yes, over the years, it's increased significantly.
1126
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:10.289
But like I said to you, you've got to be
1127
00:50:10.329 --> 00:50:14.530
careful you don't price people out. This is an economy
1128
00:50:14.989 --> 00:50:17.449
and a world we live in where everything's expensive and
1129
00:50:18.090 --> 00:50:21.150
people can't afford these luxuries like going to Panthers games
1130
00:50:21.170 --> 00:50:23.360
and spending a lot on games. And I know that
1131
00:50:23.510 --> 00:50:26.000
no one's forcing them to do it, but Penrith and
1132
00:50:26.539 --> 00:50:29.960
Rugby League are built on families and young people and
1133
00:50:30.179 --> 00:50:34.320
whoever going to games. And if you're pricing them out,
1134
00:50:35.179 --> 00:50:37.659
for whatever reason, whether because the team's successful or you've
1135
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:39.340
got a new stadium, you've got to pay off to
1136
00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:42.710
the government or whatever. You've got to be careful.
1137
00:50:42.909 --> 00:50:46.599
Yeah, absolutely. The other thing, which will annoy some people
1138
00:50:46.679 --> 00:50:48.059
and some people it won't, but it looks like we
1139
00:50:48.079 --> 00:50:50.679
are going to digital membership card for next year. So
1140
00:50:50.699 --> 00:50:51.360
you won't get.
1141
00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:54.179
Your plastic card. I think that's a terrible idea.
1142
00:50:54.659 --> 00:50:57.219
Look, I understand why it happens, but I agree. I
1143
00:50:57.239 --> 00:50:58.920
want the physical card.
1144
00:50:58.940 --> 00:50:59.119
You can't.
1145
00:50:59.139 --> 00:51:02.090
What if someone doesn't have a phone or the phone's stuffed?
1146
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:04.329
Yeah. And can I just say again, guys?
1147
00:51:04.610 --> 00:51:06.110
Kids don't have phones.
1148
00:51:06.170 --> 00:51:09.119
People are not thinking. Like people want these as either
1149
00:51:09.159 --> 00:51:11.219
mementos or that's their extra special thing.
1150
00:51:11.360 --> 00:51:13.280
At the moment, like- It costs 20 cents to make
1151
00:51:13.300 --> 00:51:14.000
one of these plastic cards.
1152
00:51:14.059 --> 00:51:17.210
Well, exactly. And we have a printer. We print your
1153
00:51:17.250 --> 00:51:19.409
Leagues Club card. Why can't we just borrow that printer
1154
00:51:19.429 --> 00:51:19.800
and print it?
1155
00:51:20.250 --> 00:51:22.789
So as I read that and I'm like, is that
1156
00:51:22.829 --> 00:51:25.429
just in addition or we're not getting that plastic card?
1157
00:51:25.469 --> 00:51:27.389
No, no, no. I think it's the plastic card's gone,
1158
00:51:27.409 --> 00:51:29.869
which I think we did one other year. One other
1159
00:51:29.889 --> 00:51:32.010
year we did it, but you could buy the plastic
1160
00:51:32.050 --> 00:51:33.739
card in the member store. That's right, on the member store.
1161
00:51:34.389 --> 00:51:37.630
which I did. We all did. Because I want the card. Now,
1162
00:51:37.949 --> 00:51:40.230
I know it sounds silly, but it's like you've got
1163
00:51:40.250 --> 00:51:42.269
to be offering members something that they can't get elsewhere.
1164
00:51:42.289 --> 00:51:44.050
And I'm looking at this right now and I'm like, well,
1165
00:51:44.070 --> 00:51:46.070
digital membership card, how is that different to a digital
1166
00:51:46.110 --> 00:51:49.280
ticket if I just buy a one-off ticket? A $ 30
1167
00:51:49.039 --> 00:51:52.159
Panther Shop voucher, is that encouraging me to be a member?
1168
00:51:53.500 --> 00:51:55.440
Do you know 10% off ability to list my seat?
1169
00:51:55.480 --> 00:51:58.000
Like you're actually starting to reduce– I know the whole
1170
00:51:58.070 --> 00:51:59.849
point is to go to the game. You're starting to
1171
00:51:59.889 --> 00:52:04.929
reduce my, I guess– perks of being a member yeah
1172
00:52:05.070 --> 00:52:05.510
you know.
1173
00:52:05.409 --> 00:52:07.969
So obviously we're just shooting the the breathe you know
1174
00:52:08.150 --> 00:52:09.949
the talk at the moment but if you know at
1175
00:52:09.989 --> 00:52:12.070
some point we will probably chat to people at panthers
1176
00:52:12.349 --> 00:52:14.760
yeah who are in the know and who maybe came
1177
00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:16.980
up with some of these packages and just drill them
1178
00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:19.579
a little bit as to what why why have you
1179
00:52:19.619 --> 00:52:21.420
done it this way what what prompted you to make
1180
00:52:21.460 --> 00:52:25.739
these decisions um because yeah i think once these more
1181
00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:27.659
of the public know about this site and and do
1182
00:52:27.699 --> 00:52:30.280
some of their own digging and research as to what
1183
00:52:30.320 --> 00:52:32.489
they want next year i'd they're probably going to be
1184
00:52:32.510 --> 00:52:33.329
a bit confused as well.
1185
00:52:33.409 --> 00:52:35.880
It probably sounds like we're on the whinge and being critical.
1186
00:52:37.039 --> 00:52:38.920
It would probably be a hard job to– It's a.
1187
00:52:38.900 --> 00:52:41.039
Very– you can't please everyone, but we're just trying to
1188
00:52:41.079 --> 00:52:44.519
pick some things out here that are worthy of discussion.
1189
00:52:44.699 --> 00:52:47.280
We know that the Panthers membership team do a great job.
1190
00:52:47.619 --> 00:52:49.590
It's no criticism of them. They've got to balance the
1191
00:52:49.630 --> 00:52:51.969
books as well. But just some of these things I
1192
00:52:52.010 --> 00:52:55.389
think that are actually easy decisions, like printing a 20-cent card,
1193
00:52:55.429 --> 00:52:58.829
as you said, and things like that, we can achieve that.
1194
00:52:59.030 --> 00:53:02.519
And no discounts at– There won't be.
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00:53:02.659 --> 00:53:04.780
No, that's out. That's gone as well.
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00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:05.699
That's not being promoted either.
1197
00:53:05.719 --> 00:53:07.659
The other thing I think is interesting. So a general
1198
00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:11.150
admin membership, I think it's $ 20 per game. $ 200 per season.
1199
00:53:11.170 --> 00:53:14.489
I think that actually may be cheaper than it even
1200
00:53:14.510 --> 00:53:16.849
is now. So that's great. But that person gets the
1201
00:53:17.010 --> 00:53:20.519
same value Panther Shop voucher as someone who buys a
1202
00:53:20.519 --> 00:53:24.039
$ 600 membership. I just think things like that are interesting. Yeah,
1203
00:53:24.059 --> 00:53:25.400
that's bizarre. So anyway.
1204
00:53:26.219 --> 00:53:28.280
More accessible seating, though, Troy, apparently, as well.
1205
00:53:28.500 --> 00:53:31.940
Yes, yes. All right, moving on from that, we said
1206
00:53:31.960 --> 00:53:34.000
briefly on other matters. We've talked about that for a while.
1207
00:53:34.219 --> 00:53:39.239
Nathan Cleary, as always, asked about his future on 100% Footy.
1208
00:53:39.260 --> 00:53:39.940
Let's have a listen to that.
1209
00:53:40.260 --> 00:53:42.699
Yeah, it does a bit, probably because of the fact
1210
00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:45.389
that I never thought that it was possible. I never
1211
00:53:45.469 --> 00:53:48.170
even had thought about it. So when it did become
1212
00:53:48.190 --> 00:53:50.989
a possibility, I was like, oh, just the opportunity to
1213
00:53:51.010 --> 00:53:54.239
even train with him every single day, that's... yeah it
1214
00:53:54.260 --> 00:53:56.440
means the world to me and it's something that I'd
1215
00:53:56.480 --> 00:53:59.059
really love to do and I feel like I can
1216
00:53:59.460 --> 00:54:01.440
offer a lot to him and his development as well
1217
00:54:01.880 --> 00:54:05.579
just to see that and yeah we'll see what happens
1218
00:54:05.739 --> 00:54:07.099
I know you get sick of being asked about the
1219
00:54:07.139 --> 00:54:09.039
future too is there a chance you might decide before
1220
00:54:09.260 --> 00:54:13.000
that November 1 scenario there is a chance yeah so
1221
00:54:14.199 --> 00:54:15.940
but yeah we'll see what happens.
1222
00:54:15.719 --> 00:54:19.510
He's not going anywhere no way he pretty much just
1223
00:54:19.550 --> 00:54:22.090
told us he's signing on he wants to play with
1224
00:54:22.110 --> 00:54:24.980
Jen I love it Well done, Bryce.
1225
00:54:25.039 --> 00:54:26.139
Look at us go.
1226
00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:29.420
I don't want to put too much thought into it
1227
00:54:29.460 --> 00:54:32.219
right now because I don't want to drain that mental energy.
1228
00:54:32.239 --> 00:54:34.519
I want to put it all into this final series
1229
00:54:34.619 --> 00:54:36.360
and hope to make it a special one.
1230
00:54:37.179 --> 00:54:40.489
And I think the more and more we get closer
1231
00:54:40.530 --> 00:54:42.210
to November 1, the more and more likely we are
1232
00:54:42.230 --> 00:54:44.690
that we will get an announcement before November 1 that
1233
00:54:44.730 --> 00:54:45.429
Nathan is staying.
1234
00:54:45.730 --> 00:54:45.949
Yeah.
1235
00:54:45.989 --> 00:54:48.929
He's not going. They did a good job 100% for
1236
00:54:49.110 --> 00:54:50.590
you to get what they got out of him. He
1237
00:54:50.610 --> 00:54:53.750
felt comfortable and He let a few things slip, and
1238
00:54:53.769 --> 00:54:55.489
I think that's what Panthers fans needed to hear.
1239
00:54:56.269 --> 00:54:59.110
And Gus... Gus was great. Gus was great. You can
1240
00:54:59.130 --> 00:55:01.050
go watch on YouTube, or I presume on Nine Now,
1241
00:55:01.570 --> 00:55:04.239
and watch particularly the end where Gus is grilling him
1242
00:55:04.260 --> 00:55:08.300
about Mary Fowler. It's very funny. Now, the last thing,
1243
00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:13.739
Fox rebranding as KO. We found out this last week, so...
1244
00:55:14.619 --> 00:55:16.920
Fox League? Is this going to be like the plaza? Like,
1245
00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:19.280
we're never really not going to call it Fox. You know,
1246
00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:21.260
we're not going to call it Westfield. It's the plaza.
1247
00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:23.280
We're just going to keep calling this Fox, not KO.
1248
00:55:23.280 --> 00:55:25.929
I'd say so. I mean, the KO, it's been around
1249
00:55:25.949 --> 00:55:27.389
for a few years now, and people that do have
1250
00:55:27.429 --> 00:55:31.670
KO talk about KO. But, yeah, the KO League, it's
1251
00:55:31.690 --> 00:55:34.309
going to be called. Like, it's weird, isn't it?
1252
00:55:34.389 --> 00:55:35.730
I mean, it needed to happen, but I still don't
1253
00:55:35.750 --> 00:55:37.269
think it goes far enough. We were talking about this
1254
00:55:37.309 --> 00:55:44.019
last week. Right now, the same companies producing Foxtel– Foxtel Now,
1255
00:55:44.380 --> 00:55:50.400
Foxtel Go, Binge, KO. Essentially with the same content here
1256
00:55:50.420 --> 00:55:54.300
and there, depending on where you're at. There's five pieces
1257
00:55:54.380 --> 00:55:57.610
of asset for the same thing. It did need to
1258
00:55:57.639 --> 00:55:59.469
come under one, but really this is only getting rid
1259
00:55:59.530 --> 00:56:02.409
of the channel names because if you have the set-top box,
1260
00:56:02.429 --> 00:56:04.710
it's still going to be called Foxtel. Unless there's a
1261
00:56:04.730 --> 00:56:06.489
big change, Foxtel Now is still going to be called
1262
00:56:06.510 --> 00:56:09.309
Foxtel Now. I think Foxtel Go is just becoming Foxtel
1263
00:56:09.329 --> 00:56:12.550
and that. We've still got chaos. Like it's still, I
1264
00:56:12.590 --> 00:56:13.510
feel like it should just be one thing.
1265
00:56:13.530 --> 00:56:14.530
It's a bit over the shop. It should just be
1266
00:56:14.550 --> 00:56:16.130
another one umbrella. Yes.
1267
00:56:16.170 --> 00:56:18.329
Including binge. Like why wouldn't you just make it all
1268
00:56:18.389 --> 00:56:20.250
one thing? And if you don't want sport, you just
1269
00:56:20.269 --> 00:56:21.969
don't add that to your package or whatever.
1270
00:56:21.989 --> 00:56:24.530
Yeah, because obviously DAZN bought Fox whenever it was in
1271
00:56:24.550 --> 00:56:27.650
the last year and that's all been implemented now. So
1272
00:56:28.329 --> 00:56:30.050
it's a wonder why they just didn't go with the
1273
00:56:30.070 --> 00:56:30.989
whole DAZN thing.
1274
00:56:31.030 --> 00:56:33.070
As much as I hate the name, just call it DAZN. Yeah.
1275
00:56:33.289 --> 00:56:34.110
The whole thing can just be called DAZN.
1276
00:56:34.130 --> 00:56:36.849
Because that's a worldwide brand. That's obviously Europe and America
1277
00:56:36.889 --> 00:56:39.210
and everything like that. So it's surprising why they just didn't.
1278
00:56:39.960 --> 00:56:41.980
They still got a little bit of Foxtel there, you know.
1279
00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:44.400
Well, I did see someone say as well that they'd
1280
00:56:44.440 --> 00:56:47.539
be paying for that Fox licensing. So eventually they're just
1281
00:56:47.559 --> 00:56:48.880
going to want to move on completely.
1282
00:56:48.980 --> 00:56:50.019
Oh, that's a good point.
1283
00:56:50.039 --> 00:56:52.289
Why not just do it now? There is big news
1284
00:56:52.369 --> 00:56:54.510
out of Fox today, I understand. Patrick Delaney might be
1285
00:56:54.570 --> 00:56:55.789
about to announce his departure.
1286
00:56:55.809 --> 00:56:56.369
Where's he going?
1287
00:56:56.389 --> 00:56:58.289
As CEO, a job in London or something.
1288
00:56:58.849 --> 00:56:59.070
Okay.
1289
00:56:59.090 --> 00:57:00.130
He's had that job for a long time.
1290
00:57:00.150 --> 00:57:01.469
I did what I hate other people doing and I
1291
00:57:01.530 --> 00:57:03.670
only read the headlines, so I can't tell you about
1292
00:57:03.690 --> 00:57:06.429
the story. But I did see that floating around today.
1293
00:57:07.199 --> 00:57:09.719
All right, now there are some other finals happening this weekend, Nathan.
1294
00:57:09.760 --> 00:57:12.420
Let's have a look at those. Kicks off Friday night.
1295
00:57:13.500 --> 00:57:18.360
South's up against Newcastle at Allianz Stadium, home of the Rabbitohs.
1296
00:57:19.389 --> 00:57:20.130
So weird, isn't it?
1297
00:57:20.119 --> 00:57:24.550
This is an elimination match. Loser is gone. Look, most
1298
00:57:24.590 --> 00:57:27.590
people thinking South will have too much here. The Knights, obviously,
1299
00:57:27.690 --> 00:57:31.369
injury and suspension hit. I am going the Rabbits by 14.
1300
00:57:31.369 --> 00:57:33.199
I think they will just have too much, and my
1301
00:57:33.219 --> 00:57:34.340
man Latrell ready.
1302
00:57:34.219 --> 00:57:36.500
To catch fire. What's he going to do?
1303
00:57:37.079 --> 00:57:39.000
He's going to fire up in the final series. Watch
1304
00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:39.300
him go.
1305
00:57:39.320 --> 00:57:41.710
Hopefully he doesn't get suspended. He almost got suspended for
1306
00:57:41.730 --> 00:57:45.369
this game with that hit the other day. Poor little youngster.
1307
00:57:45.590 --> 00:57:48.610
Was very close to getting a bit high there.
1308
00:57:48.670 --> 00:57:50.829
Welcome to first grade.
1309
00:57:50.869 --> 00:57:53.449
Look, I think the Rabideaus, yeah, I think they're definitely
1310
00:57:53.469 --> 00:57:56.309
the favourites for a reason. They've been going pretty well
1311
00:57:56.349 --> 00:58:00.260
of late. Not perfect by any means, but, you know,
1312
00:58:00.440 --> 00:58:02.000
they'll put up a fight. Like we said last week,
1313
00:58:02.179 --> 00:58:05.280
we always envision Souths to– make it through at least
1314
00:58:05.300 --> 00:58:07.380
the first week. You've got them in a prelim choice,
1315
00:58:07.400 --> 00:58:09.960
so let's see how far they can go. But, yeah,
1316
00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:12.159
bunnies for me as well by 20. All right.
1317
00:58:12.380 --> 00:58:15.820
Oh, okay. Saturday afternoon, Mount Smart Stadium is a sellout
1318
00:58:15.860 --> 00:58:20.920
for the Warriors up against the Dolphins, 4.05 p.m. Australian time.
1319
00:58:21.659 --> 00:58:22.739
What do we think about this one?
1320
00:58:23.360 --> 00:58:25.239
So this will be sort of a night game for
1321
00:58:25.260 --> 00:58:25.920
the Warriors, right?
1322
00:58:25.980 --> 00:58:26.719
Yeah, 6 o'clock.
1323
00:58:26.719 --> 00:58:30.449
6 o'clock game. Look, I think the Warriors– are favourites
1324
00:58:30.469 --> 00:58:32.510
for this one and deservingly so. I think this is
1325
00:58:32.530 --> 00:58:34.889
the first time we'll be seeing the Dolphins playing finals
1326
00:58:34.909 --> 00:58:38.199
football and I think they'll put up a fight, but
1327
00:58:38.440 --> 00:58:40.420
it'll be a high-scoring game, I know that, because the
1328
00:58:40.440 --> 00:58:43.519
Warriors can't defend for their lives and the Dolphins love
1329
00:58:43.539 --> 00:58:46.969
to score points. So expect a high-scoring game with the
1330
00:58:46.989 --> 00:58:48.010
Warriors getting up for me.
1331
00:58:48.329 --> 00:58:50.070
Upset for me, Dolphins by six.
1332
00:58:50.130 --> 00:58:50.530
Really?
1333
00:58:50.889 --> 00:58:52.289
Dolphins by six. Wow.
1334
00:58:52.849 --> 00:58:55.929
That would be a huge upset for the Warriors fans.
1335
00:58:55.949 --> 00:58:57.409
I was on the Warriors bus for so long, I
1336
00:58:57.670 --> 00:59:01.340
am off it. All right, Sharks-Cowboys is the other elimination
1337
00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:05.809
game at Allianz Stadium. The Sutherland Shuttle, apparently, the buses
1338
00:59:05.849 --> 00:59:09.429
making their way from Shark Park to Allianz.
1339
00:59:09.449 --> 00:59:09.909
It's not that far.
1340
00:59:10.269 --> 00:59:10.389
One.
1341
00:59:10.969 --> 00:59:13.969
No, it's not. But I do worry about the crowd.
1342
00:59:14.010 --> 00:59:17.989
But look, yep, 7.50pm. The Cowboys won't bring many. The
1343
00:59:18.070 --> 00:59:20.699
Cowboys pretty disappointing against Canberra last week. They really kind
1344
00:59:20.739 --> 00:59:23.380
of limped their way into the eight. But the Sharks
1345
00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:26.980
have been in awful form. Do get Trindle back. I
1346
00:59:27.000 --> 00:59:29.090
am going to go to the Sharks. But this is,
1347
00:59:29.190 --> 00:59:31.360
I'm very, I'm not very confident. I mean, it's like,
1348
00:59:31.579 --> 00:59:35.360
you know, who's the best, worst team.
1349
00:59:35.539 --> 00:59:37.820
I guess. Yeah, I think the Sharks as well. I
1350
00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:40.800
think they just have that little bit more experience in
1351
00:59:40.860 --> 00:59:43.030
finals footy that they always seem to at least get
1352
00:59:43.070 --> 00:59:46.050
to week two or three. So I expect them to win,
1353
00:59:46.110 --> 00:59:48.250
but it could be a toss of the coin job.
1354
00:59:48.329 --> 00:59:50.949
I mean, the Cowboys, yeah, they haven't been good, but,
1355
00:59:51.369 --> 00:59:53.730
you know, they could surprise people. Who knows? It's not
1356
00:59:53.789 --> 00:59:56.719
at Cronulla. So it's sort of, I wouldn't say it's
1357
00:59:56.760 --> 00:59:59.179
neutral territory, but. you know, a little bit more neutral
1358
00:59:59.199 --> 01:00:01.179
territory than it could have been at Shark Park where
1359
01:00:01.199 --> 01:00:02.260
they probably would have romped at home.
1360
01:00:02.480 --> 01:00:02.659
Yeah.
1361
01:00:02.900 --> 01:00:03.119
All right.
1362
01:00:03.139 --> 01:00:05.699
Well, we're both tipping the sharks in that one.
1363
01:00:06.300 --> 01:00:06.519
All right.
1364
01:00:06.539 --> 01:00:10.699
Time for Rugby League recommendations, Nathan, as always. And look,
1365
01:00:10.719 --> 01:00:12.559
you know what my recommendation is this week, Nathan? Go
1366
01:00:12.599 --> 01:00:17.300
for it. It's don't throw away things, right, that are
1367
01:00:17.940 --> 01:00:21.340
just anything Panthers related, right? Collectible things? Well, you know
1368
01:00:21.360 --> 01:00:23.179
what I saw someone throw in the bin the other day? What?
1369
01:00:23.360 --> 01:00:24.199
Their season ticket.
1370
01:00:25.119 --> 01:00:28.340
Like they left, they finished ComBank.
1371
01:00:28.360 --> 01:00:30.110
They were done for the year. Why wouldn't I throw
1372
01:00:30.119 --> 01:00:31.329
that away?
1373
01:00:31.650 --> 01:00:32.880
Just on the bins on the way out.
1374
01:00:32.889 --> 01:00:34.829
Yeah, just on the bins on the way out. He
1375
01:00:34.889 --> 01:00:37.730
told his kids, he said, we're done. And I'm like, no, mate.
1376
01:00:37.789 --> 01:00:40.610
I have all of my season tickets. In the lanyard
1377
01:00:40.650 --> 01:00:43.260
as well? No, I've taken them out of the lanyard.
1378
01:00:43.340 --> 01:00:45.119
No, but like this father.
1379
01:00:45.260 --> 01:00:47.360
He threw the lanyard away. Yeah, got rid of that.
1380
01:00:47.900 --> 01:00:50.059
And I'm just like, you know, and look, maybe not
1381
01:00:50.079 --> 01:00:53.469
everyone has the room, but Nathan, I keep everything. I
1382
01:00:53.510 --> 01:00:57.849
have menus from the Merv Cartwright medal. I have, you know,
1383
01:00:57.869 --> 01:00:59.070
the other day I was looking through some of my
1384
01:00:59.090 --> 01:01:03.179
stuff and I found my unopened, you know, 2018 membership
1385
01:01:03.199 --> 01:01:05.599
pack that I'd obviously taken the ticket out, but the
1386
01:01:05.639 --> 01:01:06.940
rest of it's still there with a scarf. Do you
1387
01:01:07.000 --> 01:01:10.159
keep it sealed? Yeah, it's all still sealed. Like I
1388
01:01:10.199 --> 01:01:13.380
keep everything. And my thing to you is keep everything
1389
01:01:13.679 --> 01:01:16.360
because one day when Penrith aren't going so well and whatnot,
1390
01:01:16.380 --> 01:01:17.639
you're going to be able to look back on these
1391
01:01:17.699 --> 01:01:21.960
great memories. So find a room in your house or
1392
01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:24.929
a cupboard that, or a garage or a shed or
1393
01:01:24.949 --> 01:01:28.030
a storage area, anything you can find and keep your stuff. Yeah.
1394
01:01:28.070 --> 01:01:30.889
Well, I'm a keeper Troy. I've got all the newspapers
1395
01:01:30.969 --> 01:01:33.869
from the last five or six years, like whether it's
1396
01:01:33.929 --> 01:01:37.579
telly Herald or us, like always keep those grand final
1397
01:01:37.619 --> 01:01:40.719
additions and, you know, post grand final additions. I think
1398
01:01:40.739 --> 01:01:41.820
they're pretty cool to have.
1399
01:01:41.880 --> 01:01:42.969
And, A little bit.
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01:01:42.989 --> 01:01:44.989
Probably not as much as you. Like the menus at
1401
01:01:45.050 --> 01:01:47.030
the Murph Cartwright Metals are a bit of a stretch.
1402
01:01:47.349 --> 01:01:49.690
Don't take those with me. But some of the other
1403
01:01:49.730 --> 01:01:52.019
cool things I certainly have. I mean, they're probably worth
1404
01:01:52.099 --> 01:01:53.199
nothing and they never will be.
1405
01:01:53.219 --> 01:01:56.380
Well, no, there's not like there's a market for Penrith merchandise.
1406
01:01:56.480 --> 01:01:58.360
No, I don't think so.
1407
01:01:58.840 --> 01:02:00.019
But, you know, it's nice to have.
1408
01:02:00.039 --> 01:02:01.400
It's nice to have for yourself, yes.
1409
01:02:01.420 --> 01:02:02.659
All right, your rugby league recommendation.
1410
01:02:02.679 --> 01:02:05.570
My recommendation is obviously we're doing a podcast today, Troy,
1411
01:02:05.610 --> 01:02:08.170
so I'm going to talk about some podcasts that I
1412
01:02:08.210 --> 01:02:11.170
listen to that are footy related. Obviously, I recommend this
1413
01:02:11.289 --> 01:02:15.630
one if you're not. Please subscribe and send us an
1414
01:02:15.690 --> 01:02:18.949
email or rate us or whatever. That'll be pretty cool.
1415
01:02:18.969 --> 01:02:20.849
But some of the other ones that I enjoy, I
1416
01:02:21.769 --> 01:02:25.769
love the Triple M NRL footy podcast that they put out.
1417
01:02:26.070 --> 01:02:28.050
Not a massive fan of Charlie White. I think that's
1418
01:02:28.070 --> 01:02:28.769
well known out there.
1419
01:02:28.789 --> 01:02:30.289
I know you're giving him the trapdoor.
1420
01:02:30.309 --> 01:02:32.309
Trapdoor award. I think he's very overexposed.
1421
01:02:32.329 --> 01:02:34.150
I like Charlie. If you're listening, Charlie, I like you.
1422
01:02:34.170 --> 01:02:37.210
Very overexposed. Probably born with a silver spoon in his mouth.
1423
01:02:37.230 --> 01:02:41.090
Loves his eastern suburbs. But apart from him, I pretty
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much enjoy all the other episodes. I even listen to
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the Saturday and Sunday shows on repeat where Charlie's not involved, thankfully. Sorry, Charlie,
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01:02:50.389 --> 01:02:51.809
you never give me a job at Triple M after this.
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He's producing hard there in the background, though, if you
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watch the YouTube video.
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01:02:54.730 --> 01:02:56.889
Yeah, well, no, I don't watch the YouTube videos. I
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probably get angry if I had to watch that. So
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01:02:59.639 --> 01:03:04.019
they're good. They're daily. Yeah, really good insights into Rugby
1432
01:03:04.059 --> 01:03:05.849
League and have some good things on them. The other
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01:03:05.889 --> 01:03:07.710
one I've listened to for a very, very long time
1434
01:03:07.750 --> 01:03:10.349
is the Sportsbet podcast with Dan Ganane and Joel Cain.
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01:03:11.110 --> 01:03:13.409
They also have another fellow on there as well that's
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01:03:13.469 --> 01:03:17.510
from Sportsbet that contributes. Dan Ganane's a legend. Love him.
1437
01:03:17.570 --> 01:03:20.190
Usually agree with a lot of the things he says. Yes,
1438
01:03:20.230 --> 01:03:22.989
it is a betting podcast, but It's, they just talk
1439
01:03:23.010 --> 01:03:24.789
about odds and things like that. A lot of it
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01:03:24.849 --> 01:03:28.599
is just general footy chat. And the last one, which also, um,
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01:03:28.920 --> 01:03:30.900
I come and go every couple of years, depending if
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01:03:30.940 --> 01:03:32.500
I like this guy or not, but it's six tackles
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01:03:32.519 --> 01:03:36.519
with Gus. Uh, I've, I'm, I'm a listener again this year. Um,
1444
01:03:36.699 --> 01:03:40.980
that's always pretty. fun to hear Gus's thoughts and insights.
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01:03:41.019 --> 01:03:43.739
You know, we have our opinions on Gus a lot, Troy,
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01:03:43.780 --> 01:03:47.349
whether we, sometimes we don't necessarily agree with everything he says,
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but he does, he's an entertaining character and you do
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listen when he, when he says something. So six tackles
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with Gus, sports bet, triple M. And of course our
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podcast as well would be my recommendations.
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All right.
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01:03:58.429 --> 01:04:00.989
And does Matt Thompson still host six tackles with Gus?
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Unfortunately. Yes, he does. Like Matt, you're a good man.
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01:04:04.659 --> 01:04:08.510
You were Penrith guy. Your commentary is pretty good. But
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01:04:08.550 --> 01:04:11.469
I much prefer James Bracey, I must admit. He's just
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the host with the most.
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You're not going to be working at Nine or Triple
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M any time soon.
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01:04:14.239 --> 01:04:17.780
Or how much pool does Matt Thompson have? He's all right.
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He's good. I don't know. Maybe you just get over people.
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01:04:21.099 --> 01:04:23.199
People are probably over us. They might want new hosts
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of Tensions Running High next year because they're probably over
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our voices too.
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Emily's waiting.
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She is.
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She's waiting.
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She's hanging in there.
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All right, just wanted to note as well before we go,
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New South Wales Cup and Jersey Flag, of course, Panthers
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continuing on. So in the Jersey Flag this week, it
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is a top-of-the-table battle. Dragons-Panthers at Leichhardt Oval, 3 o'clock p.m.
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in the Jersey Flag. And in the New South Wales Cup,
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that game follows it. So you can go out and
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watch both grades back-to-back. Because in the New South Wales Cup,
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it's Panthers-Newcastle. So Penrith finish first, Newcastle third, 5.15 p.m.
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at Leichhardt Oval. So go and check that out. And
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in the women's premiership, Panthers play Mounties, also at Leichhardt Oval.
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So you could just hang out all night. Maybe you
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can camp there. Sunday morning, 11am, Panthers play Mounties. So
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we're going for four finals wins this weekend.
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How many do you think we're going to win across
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the four, Troy? I'm going two out of four, Troy.
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I'm going three out of four. Really? I don't know
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which one we're going to drop, but I'm three out
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of four.
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I think we'll drop the women's game.
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Okay.
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And probably the flag game. I know that's negative, isn't it?
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I should say we're all going to win, but you've.
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Got to make it interesting. Yeah, so in the women's game, Mounties, yeah,
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third versus fourth.
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And Panthers lost last week against South, so they've done
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01:05:42.409 --> 01:05:43.510
well to get this far, I guess.
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Yeah, okay. Both pretty even, Panthers and Mounties, through the year.
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Both had seven wins, but Panthers just finished on top
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of them. But look, let's hope we're talking. Look, let's
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hope the NRL side has a break next week and
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we can just talk. All the great stuff at the
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lower grades.
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We can relax.
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We're not buying tickets next week. In grey out as
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many bays as you like at Combank next week.
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So confirmation. So if we win this weekend, Troy, Penrith
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have the week off. They will play their home final
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at a core stadium. I got that confirmed today.
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So Combank.
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No Combank.
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We don't have to worry about Combank again.
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This is our last visit. Thank God.
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This is our last visit to Combank Stadium. Potentially. As
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a home team. We might go and watch them beat
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the Eels or something next year. But, yeah, this is it.
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This is the end of the road.
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It's good. I don't know what happens if we lose
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this week and play week two.
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Oh, then we may, yeah.
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We may play there again. Maybe they'll open those bays up.
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Maybe they'll go down to the backlash that, you know.
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Yeah, yeah. Well, okay. Well, we'll see what happens there.
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But I'm happy with the course dating because I'm a
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member there, so I can sort out my tickets much easier.
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Oh, well, that's good, isn't it?
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But then you talk about nosebleed. I'm in level four. Oh, man.
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Level four. But I've seen some good wins in level four. Look,
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that is it for Tensions Running High this week. New
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episodes out every Wednesday. Visit westernweekender.com.au. Follow us on all
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the socials. Check out the print edition. Extra time's out
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this week. Who have you talked to in extra time, Nathan?
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Yeah, we've got a few interviews this week. We've got
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Luke Garner, obviously back from his injuries. We've got Tom
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01:07:03.940 --> 01:07:06.239
Jenkins and Emily Chatz with Isaac Tungle.
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01:07:06.679 --> 01:07:09.519
Excellent. We've also got Langone League and Mars Panther as well.
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01:07:09.840 --> 01:07:11.699
Make sure you download the Western Weekend app on the
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01:07:11.739 --> 01:07:13.820
Google Play and Apple App Stores.
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01:07:14.239 --> 01:07:14.719
I'm Troy Dodds.
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Nathan, thanks for joining me. Thanks, Troy. And thanks to
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01:07:16.599 --> 01:07:18.960
Penrith City Automotive for their sponsorship too. We will see
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01:07:18.980 --> 01:07:21.760
you next time on Tensions Running High. Go the Panthers.
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Let's all hear.
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It for the Panthers.
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We know how to play the game. Side by side
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we'll stick together to uphold the Panthers' name. Hear the
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barricades all shouting. Hear them shouting one and all. All
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the premier ships in Cape War with the Panthers on
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the line.
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Now it's time for Tensions Running High, a Penrith Panthers
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podcast presented by the Western Weekender, brought to you by
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Penrith City Automotive. Here's Troy Dodds and Nathan Taylor.
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Hello everyone and welcome to Tensions Running High, a Penrith
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Panthers podcast presented by the Western Weekender. This is episode 92.
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I'm Troy Dodds and as always joined by Nathan Taylor.
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Hello Nathan.
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Hello Troy.
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We are the voice of rugby league in Penrith. We
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love talking all things Penrith Panthers. For 35 years the
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Weekender has led the way in Panthers coverage here in Penrith.
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We've covered six premierships, the biggest breaking stories, and interviewed CEOs, coaches, chairmen, players.
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The list goes on. A big thanks to our sponsor,
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On the agenda today, finals, finals, and more finals. So
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let's get underway. And after 27 gruelling rounds of the
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Telstra Premiership, the Penrith Panthers are NRL Minor Premiers. It
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is the sixth time. The Panthers have claimed the JJ
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Gilton and Shield and the fourth time in the past
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seven seasons. Hard to believe, Nathan, that this era is
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far from over.
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Yeah, it's quite unbelievable considering what happened last year. We
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watched that prelim loss to Brisbane and thought, is it
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all over? But Ivan and Nathan, they believe, the players
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believe that there was still another run to come. And
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we got that this year, winning the minor premiership.
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Yeah, look, just a bit of a recap of the
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regular season. So Penrith finished first, 18 wins and 6 losses,
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42 points. Only once during this era of success has
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Penrith actually finished with more than 42 points, and that
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was in 2021 when they finished with 44. Penrith scored
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683 points, the second best in the competition, and finished
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as the best defensive team as well with just 347
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points conceded in context. The next best is the Warriors
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at 418. So if you think that defense wins premierships, well,
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that's a pretty good sign for the Panthers.
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Yeah, and I heard Nathan Cleary speak on 100% Footy
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on Monday night, and he also agreed that he believes
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that defense will win the premiership this year. So lucky
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he's on the side of the Panthers this weekend.
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Absolutely. Talking of that man, Nathan Cleary finished the second
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highest point scorer of the season with 213 behind Jermaine
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Asako's 288. And Tom Jenkins finished equal top try scorer
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He got 30 tries alongside Alex Johnson. I thought he
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was going to get number 31. It looked like it
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was possible there on the weekend, but didn't quite get there.
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But look, overall, a great season. And obviously, the minor
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premiership is a great honor. I know it's not considered
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the holy grail in NRL, but it is quite the
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achievement to be the most consistent team over a season.
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Oh, 100%. I think anytime you can win a trophy
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in a sporting competition, it's always a good thing. We
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got to see the the scenes on Sunday at, uh,
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Combank stadium. Um, I know a lot of Panthers fans
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stuck around, uh, after full time to, to watch the
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presentation and obviously, um, just enjoy the, a bit of
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a party atmosphere, sort of like a pre-party before the,
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the potential grand final and final in a few weeks time.
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So very much enjoyed getting a, the JJ, as they say, and, uh,
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I managed to pop down on Monday afternoon for a
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quick walk and it was intact. It was still there.
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The engravings had been there, not, not the current year, but,
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The previous years had finally been filled in and it
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looked good.
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So it's there, obviously, at Panthers Leagues Club, if anyone
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wants to go and check it out. Yeah, okay. All right. Now,
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I do have a couple of gripes as far as
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the presentation of the JJ Gilton Shield is concerned. Now,
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the first one is the fact that the presentation itself
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was not done in front of the fans. Now, for
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those who were at ComBank on Sunday... everything was facing
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the corporate side, the media side of the stadium. And
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I actually– look, they might come up with some logistical
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reason as to why that happened, but actually the more
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and more I think of it, the more it actually
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angers me that that happened because you've got your– you know,
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you've got a stadium there in– and we'll talk about
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this a bit later too, but you've got a stadium
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there where that whole side is corporate and your fans
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who've come week in, week out, paid their memberships, who
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want to see you lift that shield– all the backs
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are to them and the presentation. I actually thought that
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was pretty, you know, pretty ordinary.
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Yeah, look, it's, you know, there's probably a couple of
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reasons to why they do it. Potentially it's, you know,
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they want the commentators to see it or the cameras
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to be able to focus on to that part of
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the field. I mean, you see it sometimes in grand finals.
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I think lately at a course stadium, when they do
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the grand final presentations, you know, they have them sort
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of towards the end of the fields and at angles
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and things like that. They've figured out different ways to,
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To do it. But yeah, look, that was annoying.
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I agree.
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Because you couldn't see anything, the celebration or not yet
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to watch the big screen throughout the whole thing. So yeah,
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very frustrating. But what can you do?
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And I'll cop that you do it to one side
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if you've got fans on both sides. You can't. We're
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not performing in the round in a concert. But when
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you're doing it in front of a half-empty corporate stand
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who are half interested in it anyway.
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Half aren't probably fan, Panthers fans anyway.
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Silliness. Silliness. And the other thing that kind of got
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my goat up a little bit was that neither of
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the broadcasters, Fox League or Channel 9, took the ceremony. Now,
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they'll have got logistical reasons for that. Nine obviously really
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wants that 4 p.m. game to butt into its news,
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so they go straight from the footy to the top-rating
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6 p.m.
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News.
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Fox League wants to go to the Matty John show,
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but here's two broadcasters who paid billions of dollars for
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the rights to broadcast the home-and-away season and then don't
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show the presentation of the trophy for that home-and-away season.
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They just don't seem to care about it, and yet
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they want us to watch week in, week out.
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I guess they're probably thinking on behalf of the viewer,
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what viewer is going to care about Penrith winning the
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minor premiership, but Panthers fans, you know what I mean?
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off a few thousand Panthers fans, oh, well, you know,
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that's all I can think. Like it's not, that's not
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important to the broadcasters. Well, you know what they could
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have done? They could have, they could have filmed it
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and at least put that on there on YouTube or
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one of their, you know, YouTube channels or something like that.
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Like we do often see like them clip up things.
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I don't think, the presentation has been clipped up anywhere
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from what I can tell.
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you know, if you want to continue, you know, go
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over to Go or Gem or whatever else. And in fact,
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I reckon they should do that on Sundays anyway, because
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I think that, I know that I probably don't want
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to split their audience away from the news, but that
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Sunday afternoon game, which is, you know, a premium game,
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often gets no post coverage anywhere because we start the
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Matty John show on Fox and And on Channel 9,
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we go to the news. Every other night, you've got
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almost an hour worth of post coverage, you know, on
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Fox and 9 and other games.
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sometimes when the game finishes early, like sometimes it finishes
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like 10 to 5 or something like that. 10 to 6, yeah.
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10 to 6, they will obviously stick around and they
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do some post-game interviews and stuff like that. But obviously Fox,
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they just go straight to Matty Johns when the broadcast
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is over.
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Yeah, I guess it's one of those things where maybe
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the new broadcast deal, Troy, there will be some tinkering.
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Maybe. Well, there will be a change to Sunday nights
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because we're going to have a Sunday time slot. And
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Matty Johns does cross back to the ground for one
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interview during the show. But it's just not the same
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as the analysis. It's more of a comedic interview, isn't it? Yeah,
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the analysis you sort of get. But yeah, I just
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thought that given how significant it is to win the
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minor premiership, disappointing on those factors that we saw the
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The presentation not being done in front of the actual
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fans and then also not being shown on TV. I
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enjoyed the awkwardness of Peter Volandis. I don't know if
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you were watching that. He didn't know if he should
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be in the photo or if he was going to speak.
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It looked like he wasn't really sure what was going on.
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role because obviously a lot of that would be there.
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Abdo would be there looking after a lot of those
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things or they do it together. But on this occasion,
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he looked a bit lost. He looked a bit lonely
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out there.
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He did. He did, actually.
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Looked very lost. I zoomed in, actually, from across the way,
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and he was there texting away, I presume telling them
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to bring out the shield. It's all confirmed.
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It was exciting. How good was that moment? It was
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like five or ten minutes to go, and they brought
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it out. That gave you goosebumps, that bit.
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Yeah, absolutely. And, yeah, another great trophy, and it deserves
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the recognition it gets. It is only the sixth time
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the Panthers have won the JJ Gilton shield. But on
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to bigger things, and it is the Panthers and the Roosters.
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It's won all this year, of course. The Panthers thrashed
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the Roosters earlier in the season, but the Roosters got
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one back not so long ago, 12-6, when, ironically, Daily
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Cherry Evans was the star of the show, and now
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he steers the ship. Now, look, this is a big game.
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It's East versus West. There's a lot of talk about
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the Roosters coming in, three straight losses, no Sam Walker.
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This is an easy one for Penrith, but, look, this
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is finals footy. Anything can happen.
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Yeah, and on the walk over to the podcast, Troy,
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I said to you, that's what sort of worries me.
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It seems to be Penrith are big favourites heading into
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this one. No one's really giving the Roosters a shot.
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As you said, they haven't won in a while since
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they last played Penrith was their last win. And I
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don't know, something like that worries me. It's like, you know,
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Penrith's not going to rest on their laurels and, you know,
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go lightly on them. But, you know, that might fire
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the Roosters up. They've had most of that team has
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had two weeks to, To prepare for round one, to
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get fresh, to get ready. Yeah, I don't know. I'm...
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not saying I'm worried, but it would not surprise me
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if there was an upset on Sunday.
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Yeah, there's different views around what the Roosters did because
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some people believe, look, shouldn't have rested. You know, you've
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lost two in a row. You've got to play. But
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others are like, well, yes, but if they played and
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they lost– And then they legitimately lost three in a row,
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you know, going in with their main players. And maybe
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that's worse than just, look, resting. No, you're going to
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get hammered by the bunnies and then come out and, look,
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have a reset, which is what they've done. Unlike Penrith,
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who played everyone, including Nathan Cleary and Isaiah Yeo. Nathan
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Cleary played, what, 75 minutes? I was, you know, basically
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from the 20th minute, I was like, get him off.
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But he stayed out there that whole time. And like
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anyone in that sort of little eastern pocket who saw
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him reel out of that tackle at one stage and
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hold the arm, Um, I was a little bit panicked
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there for about 10 seconds, but, um, but, but all
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is good there. Um, but look, yeah, look, the Roosters
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know how to beat Penrith. They did it six weeks ago. So,
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you know, you can't, uh, can't rule them out, but
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Penrith have owned these big games against the Roosters and
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there's been a few of them, um, over the last
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few years.
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Yeah, for sure. Obviously, there's been a fair few finals.
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A lot that happened at Penrith Park. I can remember
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at least two of them happening there over the years. And,
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you know, Penrith had their measure of those days. Some
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very good Penrith teams came up against some pretty good
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Roosters teams as well. And then, obviously, at the start
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of the year, Penrith flogged the Roosters. Penrith were in
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that real sweet spot at the start of the season
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where they were just smashing up teams and the Roosters
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certainly copped it. Do I take much out of that
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game about a month ago? Maybe not too much because
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Penrith's going to have a lot different side this Sunday.
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You know, you've got Yo back, you've got Mitch Kenny back.
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You've got some real star players, some really experienced heads
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back in the team. They've got their halves sorted, I think,
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with Nathan and Jack Cole. Obviously, Jack Cog is still
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away for one more game. I think that's working, Troy.
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What do you think?
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Yeah, no, look, I think so as well. I mean,
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I don't think that we're going to see Blaise Talangi
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in this final series.
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Oh, I saw him training on Tuesday morning with the
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Cup team. So the Cup also have a game this
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weekend as well.
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Saturday night, yeah. So we'll probably, I mean, we'll know
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anyway in terms of final numbers and whatnot. But if
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Blaise plays in that game, then he's definitely not getting
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a shot on Sunday. Look, the other sort of factor,
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I guess, is... You look at just the mental state
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of these teams. It's just ironic that the Roosters' last
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win was that game against Penrith, and that was Penrith's
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last loss. So it's really interesting. Is it a case
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of that that was the grand final for the Roosters?
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Beat Penrith. And they managed to obviously achieve that. Where
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for us, it was kind of the wake-up call, those
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two games. And I reckon that Ivan Cleary will now
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look back now that the minor premiership's done, it's all sorted,
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he will love that we lost those two games. Because
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you lose those two games against your closest competitors at
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the right time of the season, I reckon. Because what
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would Penrith actually have gotten out? When you look back now, okay,
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we beat the Warriors and the Roosters. Apart from maybe
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getting into a false sense of security, I don't know
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what they would have achieved out of that. Now we know, well,
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hang on, we're not getting ahead of ourselves because they
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beat us only a month or five weeks ago.
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I guess it would have changed some of their plans
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regarding the last couple of games. I mean, obviously Penrith
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didn't get a chance to rest any players because they
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still wanted to play for a top two spot in
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the minor premiership. So had they won against the Warriors
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and the Roosters, well, they probably would have had a
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bit of a clear lead there at the top of
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the table. It may have changed Ivan's plans over the
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next few weeks, but fortunately everything worked out in the end.
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Penrith win the minor premiership. They get through, I think,
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unscathed as well in terms of players getting injured and
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whatnot and suspended. I think everyone's all good. Obviously, Isaac
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Tungle is still probably a week away. He was telling
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our journalist, Emily Chait, in an interview today that he's
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healing very fast. Like he surprises himself at how quick
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his leg is healing. Like I said, maybe he's having
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bone broth or something. He's a bit kooky, Isaac, with
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some of his diet. But he surprised himself at how
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quick he's healing. So that's obviously good news because the
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more depth you can have come finals time, the better. So, yeah,
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it's going to be a good, entertaining game. And obviously
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we're going to be there, Troy.
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CommBank record. Panthers have only won 60% of their games
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at CommBank Stadium as home team, away team, whatever.
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Not during this two years, though.
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Just in general, just overall. And the Roosters have an
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overall record of CommBank Stadium that is better, 64%. Obviously
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played a lot less games at CommBank and always as
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the away team, but they do have a reasonable record
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there at CommBank Stadium. As we said, sort of the
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modern era, the Panthers have really sort of owned the Roosters.
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They've played 52 times in the NRL era, Penrith 38.
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The Roosters, 22. So considering that a big chunk of
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that time too was when Penrith were struggling, they've definitely
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had some big wins over the Roosters. And I dare
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say Ivan Cleary has well and truly owned the battle
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with Trent Robinson.
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Well, you said that a month ago. We made a
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big song and dance. I think we put something in
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the paper, like a poster or something, and it backfired.
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That's all right. We're worried about finals football. That's all
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we're worried about. It is Sunday afternoon, 4.05pm at Combank Stadium. Tickets, obviously,
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which we'll talk about in a moment, actually, from Ticketmaster. Now,
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this is on Nine and Fox League, of course, during
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the final series. All the games on both networks except
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for the grand final, which is exclusive to Nine. I'm
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going to tip Penrith by about 12 points. I think
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they'll get the job done. I think that they'll just
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be too good in the end in terms of sort
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of strangling the roosters out of the game, I think,
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as well. And, you know, who knows... if officials take
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notice of things or whatever. But I have no doubt
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a little email would have went into the NRL from
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Ivan after that game about the Roosters' tactics that day
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and whether that sits in the back of the mind.
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Put it this way. Are the Roosters going to get
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away with consistently standing offside again and targeting Nathan Clear
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in the way they did? Probably not. But I'm going
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to go Roosters by 12. Yeah, I'm going for a Panthers.
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You said Roosters.
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I'm sorry, Panthers by 12. Wow. Sound the alarm.
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Far out.
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Sound the alarm. Panthers by 12. Okay.
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I'm manifesting an eight-point win for the Panthers. I think
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it's going to be fairly close throughout most of the game.
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Hopefully Penrith can kick along and we can sort of
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relax a little bit, just have like a two-try buffer
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there for the second half. I just don't know. Like
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I think that game a month ago, I don't know
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how much you can take out of it. It was
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the first game without Isaiah Yeo there as well, Lindsay
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Smith going into that position. Nathan looked a bit out
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of sorts because he was getting targeted. I think they're
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going to be a lot better this time around. And
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it's been a long time since Penrith have lost a
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round one finals match as well. I think what back
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in 2021 against the Rabbitohs in Townsville or some ridiculous
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thing like that. Like that's the last time. So yeah,
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I've got good thoughts coming into this one.
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I just think too that Nathan Cleary interview on, on
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Monday night on a hundred percent footy just saw how
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they've just been waiting for this. This is, this is
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what they wait for. This is, you know, the big
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games are Panthers DNA and, They are ready for it.
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And look, as for that, if I'm a Roosters fan,
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the one thing I do take about is how Daley
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Cherry Evans was dominant in that performance and that he
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has to lead them around the park.
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And Tedesco will be back as well. So that's a
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big in for them too.
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Tedesco back. The other thing, of course, I do think
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the Roosters probably own the game on height. You know,
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when you think about Daniel Tupou out there, you think
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about Marky Mark, like You know, Brian Taho, Tom Jenkins,
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even though Tom Jenkins is great in the air and
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Brian Taho is pretty reliable as well. But if the
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Roosters are going to target Penrith anywhere, I think it's
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probably that kick to the wings. We'll see.
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We'll see.
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All right. Now, finals ticketing, Nathan. This has been an
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interesting topic this week because we– Both logged on to
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Ticketmaster as paying members, as we are, to get our
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tickets on Monday. Now, I was okay. My bay was there.
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I got tickets only a couple of rows away from
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my current row, actually. You, though, couldn't get tickets in
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your bay. What was the deal there?
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Yeah, so, you know, obviously logged on at 10. I
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think I was, like, 200 in the line, so, like,
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really close. I think it took, like, maybe a minute
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for the ticketing line to reduce to zero, and I
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was in, and I'm like, oh, I'm going to have
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a pick of the litter here, you know, Troy, like
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this is amazing. So I log in and I noticed
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that half the stadium is blocked out. There were blue
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sections and then there was a whole bunch of grey
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sections and where I wanted to sit and where I've
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been sitting for the past two years paying $ 500 a
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year or whatever it is to sit in those seats,
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that entire bay was... was gray and I wasn't able
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to click into it. It was just not possible. And
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no matter what I did or it just, it just
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was gray the whole time. So I had to pivot
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and go, where am I going to sit? And I'll
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obviously taking a few different people with me. I had
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to buy four tickets and there's, um, someone in my
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party that doesn't want to be too high. So I
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had to stick to the lower bowl area and, um,
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was forced into, uh, one of the corners, Troy, um,
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Bay 119 or something like that, which is sort of
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between the 10 meter line and the touchline or the
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try line or somewhere around there. Like it's not, not
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the greatest, um, it's okay view, but it's not the
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greatest one, um, in terms of what I wanted in
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the middle of the field where all the good seats are. And, um, yeah,
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so I'm in a Panthers Bay Troy, which is good. Um,
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that's probably the one good thing about the tickets. Um,
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but yeah, it was really, really a surprise. Then we
421
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started having friends message us and say, Hey, we're having
422
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trouble too. So it wasn't just like us that was
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blocked out. It was, The entire Panthers community, Roosters community,
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NRL community couldn't access these premium spot tickets.
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Yeah. Now, I was half expecting that at 10 a.m.
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Tuesday when the general public tickets went on sale.
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Yeah.
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That those bays would all open up. Now, that did
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not happen.
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That didn't happen.
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They're still grayed out. And we are talking about five
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bays in the lower eastern grandstand, three bays in the
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upper eastern grandstand, and then about a dozen other bays
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when you combine both ends of the stadium. All around
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the stadium. I've been in contact with the NRL. I
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know you asked Panthers, and Panthers were just as baffled
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about this because, as we all know, this is an
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NRL game. We all know that. Panthers were just as baffled.
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Well, Panthers didn't even know. I was the first. I
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approached the media manager there, and I'm saying, hey, mate,
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do you know much about this, this ticketing fiasco, not
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being able to. to buy tickets in our bays, and
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he wasn't sure he was going to find out. And
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then I saw Matt Cameron roaming around.
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You hounded him.
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I went up to him, Troy.
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60 Minutes, current affairs style. I did.
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I went up to him. I said, hey, Matt, sorry
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to interrupt. I know this is probably above your pay grade, Matt,
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but are you aware of this ticketing issue? And I
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got my phone out, and I was showing him the
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graph or the seat map of the bays that were
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blocked out, and he said, you're right, this is above
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my pay grade. I don't know what you're talking about.
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I'm going to call someone higher up. and he instantly
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called someone and basically ran through the scenario with them,
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and then they confirmed that the NRL were responsible, and
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they're the ones that have greyed out or blocked out
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these seedings for a couple of reasons, Troy. You obviously
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got an official response.
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Yeah, I've been in contact with the NRL about this,
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and they've confirmed that, yes, it's related to basically their
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agreements with sponsors, potentially players' families, VIP, all sorts of
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reasons why they've got these these bays blacked out. So
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what I find interesting about this is, you know, we
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posted a bit about this on the Weekend website and socials,
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and a lot of the comments, I think, from the
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general rugby league community just reminding us that this is
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an NRL game. We know that it's an NRL game.
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We've been doing this for a long time. But it's
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funny about that response because they're like, oh, this is
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an NRL game so they can do what they want. Like,
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hang on. Like, we're getting a bit lost here.
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These.
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Yes, it's an NRL game, but the people attending that
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NRL game are fans who have been there through the
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chilly winters, you know, supporting teams when these sponsors obviously
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don't because they don't seem to need these tickets any
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other time of the year. And just because the NRL
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owns the game, I don't think means that they should
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sit there and say, well, our priority of owning this
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game is to make sure our whole bunch– it's not
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just key sponsors. Like, we're talking thousands of tickets. We
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are going to hold back thousands of tickets from fans–
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to make sure that we put our sponsors and whatnot
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in what we deem the best seats. Yeah. You know,
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like people seem to be okay with that. I just
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find that odd because it's just– I actually think it's
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pretty disgraceful actually.
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I think it's one of the most ridiculous things we've
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encountered just doing this job, Troy. I mean we've come
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across some really weird stuff and we've gone on some
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crusades at the paper over the years. But this is
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right up there and it's a head scratcher for premium–
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These are the premium members' seats. You and I, people
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that we know, we sit in these seats the whole year.
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These are the top of the range seats. And for
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them not to be available, I'm not just saying just
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the Penrith fans, but to even Roosters fans, they can't
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even get them.
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Yeah, I've had some people write to me as well saying,
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you know, having a go. It's not a Penrith-only game.
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Just look, shock horror, everyone. We are a Penrith media organisation,
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so it is written with a Penrith slant. I'm sure
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that horrifies you. But yes, this does affect Roosters fans
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as well. It's not like we're saying they've given these
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tickets to Roosters fans. They're holding them for Barry and
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his family from Telstra, I guess. I don't know.
509
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It's bizarre.
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Yeah.
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And what makes it more bizarre, even more bizarre, is
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that we are talking about Combank Stadium here, where the
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entire Western grandstand, the whole thing is corporate for sponsors
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and media. You have a whole side of that grandstand
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to yourself to sort out.
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Yep.
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And yet you decided you're going to take dozens of
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bays away from members to look after sponsors. And by
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the way, we might release them later in the week
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as those sponsors might decide, oh, a little bit hot
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out there in Parramatta. I don't want to go.
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Yeah.
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And there's obviously a chance that there's going to be some,
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those grey seats are going to be actually grey seats.
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They could be. be some real empty spots there like
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it's just it's it's it's absolutely i can't i can't
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comprehend what they were thinking i mean this is the
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first time we've encountered something like this because obviously when
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we had week one at penrith park i don't i
530
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remember every everywhere was available essentially yeah you could just
531
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pick what bay you wanted and boom away you went
532
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but That's a lot of bays to be blocked out.
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That's a 30,000 seat stadium that you're looking at probably,
534
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you know, nearly 10,000 or more seats. Half the stadium
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was greyed out.
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Yeah. And this actually feeds into something else that I
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want to sort of talk about this week. And that
538
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is that people have been saying, in fact, even in
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response to this, oh, there's still plenty of tickets available. Sure.
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But they're not the best tickets. You know, we're talking
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tickets maybe at both ends of the ground and whatever.
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And we've had You know, a lot about this sort
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of call to arms, you know, like, oh, Penrith fans
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need to get there. And maybe we should, I think
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Andrew Voss said, we should be playing this game at
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a call because we should be looking for bigger things.
547
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We should be wanting 40 or 50,000. And then you've
548
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got the NRL obviously moving that Shark Park game that
549
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the Cronulla would have had, the home final against North
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Queensland to Allianz Stadium. Half of that was, I think,
551
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based on media pressure and a lot of journos saying
552
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it's ridiculous that we're playing a final at Shark Park. Again,
553
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forgetting that 10 years ago, we went back to home
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grounds because these week one finals were so poorly attended
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at big stadiums. You've got other people who are saying, oh,
556
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I just think all the finals should be played at
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the big stadiums. We shouldn't be having home finals. There's
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one common denominator with all of these people, and that
559
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is that none of them pay to go to the football.
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And they all either get paid to go to the football,
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or it's been a long time since they've shelled out
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money to be a member of to have to buy
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extra tickets during finals campaigns, to buy jerseys, to buy
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all that sort of stuff. And so I can completely
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understand when the ticket buying process is not easy, when
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you can't necessarily get the best seats, when you've got
567
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to figure out travel and all of that, why people
568
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do stay away. And it's not the easiest thing to
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do to get to the footy. And I think that
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any sort of criticism people have, well, hang on, let's
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have a look at what, as a Penrith fan, for example,
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imagine the the money that Penrith fans have spent on
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finals tickets in the last six years. Now, don't get
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me wrong, great problem to have. But a lot of
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fans will say, well, look, I won't go to week
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one because I'll go to a prelim. I can't afford
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to go to both. Or I'll save my money for
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the grand final. And that's why I actually think I'm
579
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happy to have that week one final at Cronulla. And
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I know Cronulla might only get one final. But I'm
581
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happy to say, look, if I'm a Sharks fan, I'm
582
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going to have two other opportunities, potentially, if we win,
583
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to go to finals matches at bigger stadiums. I'm happy
584
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to reward the fan who sat there in the middle
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of July on a Saturday night or a Thursday night
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and have it at the stadium. And I just think
587
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this week one, like we have three weeks of finals
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before even the grand final. Let week one feel a
589
00:27:01.819 --> 00:27:04.380
bit like a home situation, but also some of these
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people just, just wake up a little bit. You're, you're
591
00:27:07.500 --> 00:27:11.039
speaking from an uneducated position almost because you're not speaking
592
00:27:11.059 --> 00:27:13.640
from the true fan with the, the money situation and
593
00:27:13.660 --> 00:27:14.319
the circumstance.
594
00:27:14.759 --> 00:27:14.920
Yeah.
595
00:27:14.940 --> 00:27:18.880
A hundred percent. Like I, I, I'm, very very pleased
596
00:27:18.900 --> 00:27:21.970
that this is remaining at Parramatta and the NRL didn't
597
00:27:22.009 --> 00:27:24.369
do something silly and go oh yeah oh this is
598
00:27:24.390 --> 00:27:26.529
two Sydney teams let's just whack it at a call
599
00:27:26.569 --> 00:27:28.150
you know if they went imagine if it went to
600
00:27:28.210 --> 00:27:32.049
Allianz that would be more of an outrage um but
601
00:27:32.190 --> 00:27:34.410
uh yeah like yeah very grateful that we get to
602
00:27:34.630 --> 00:27:36.430
at least play the game at Parramatta as for the
603
00:27:36.470 --> 00:27:39.670
Shark Park thing well it's just it's a construction zone
604
00:27:39.710 --> 00:27:41.769
at the moment isn't it Troy I think that needs
605
00:27:41.789 --> 00:27:44.549
to be needs to be fixed.
606
00:27:44.609 --> 00:27:47.650
I get it i'm not i'm not actually criticizing the
607
00:27:47.670 --> 00:27:49.509
move because i get it i get why you've moved
608
00:27:49.549 --> 00:27:51.869
it but i'm also i look at it from that
609
00:27:51.910 --> 00:27:54.230
perspective as a sharks fan or whatever it is and
610
00:27:54.250 --> 00:27:56.549
i'm just like you know what let them have it
611
00:27:56.829 --> 00:27:58.329
let them have it in week one and and you
612
00:27:58.369 --> 00:28:00.849
know what's going to happen there's either going to be
613
00:28:00.869 --> 00:28:03.769
a crowd of 20 to 25 000 because they basically
614
00:28:03.809 --> 00:28:05.250
give away tickets or it's going to be a crowd
615
00:28:05.289 --> 00:28:06.950
of about 18 000 and i just look at it
616
00:28:06.990 --> 00:28:10.059
and go I don't agree with the argument, oh, yeah,
617
00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:11.700
but that's 5,000 more than we would have got at
618
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:14.799
Shark Park because it's a half-empty Allianz Stadium if that
619
00:28:14.859 --> 00:28:15.779
ends up being the crowd.
620
00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:18.140
You know, the NRL, it's all about money for the NRL.
621
00:28:18.339 --> 00:28:21.460
Okay. If I'm a Sharks fan, I wonder if most
622
00:28:21.500 --> 00:28:23.940
Sharks fans would have said, well, I'll pay double for
623
00:28:23.980 --> 00:28:27.869
my ticket if it's at Shark Park. But, look, this
624
00:28:27.920 --> 00:28:31.890
concerns me about the NRL. This concerns me a little bit.
625
00:28:32.029 --> 00:28:34.670
The Shark Park thing is one thing. The amount of
626
00:28:34.690 --> 00:28:37.349
tickets they're holding back, It's just I feel like they're
627
00:28:37.369 --> 00:28:39.049
being a little bit disconnected here from fans.
628
00:28:39.130 --> 00:28:41.450
And they've priced a lot of people out as well, Troy.
629
00:28:41.470 --> 00:28:44.069
I mean, when you bought your tickets, you gasped at
630
00:28:44.089 --> 00:28:45.950
how much you had to pay for a round one
631
00:28:46.029 --> 00:28:46.569
finals ticket.
632
00:28:46.589 --> 00:28:48.079
Look, now this is the other thing that I wanted
633
00:28:48.099 --> 00:28:51.359
to sort of mention as well. When people talk about, oh,
634
00:28:51.740 --> 00:28:53.599
it's a special, it's only $ 67 and you get a
635
00:28:53.640 --> 00:28:56.539
family ticket. Whenever they go on about these cheap prices,
636
00:28:56.559 --> 00:28:58.839
they're generally the worst seats in the house. They're generally
637
00:28:58.880 --> 00:29:00.680
behind the post. A lot of people like to be
638
00:29:00.700 --> 00:29:03.809
behind the post, but generally behind the post, general admission,
639
00:29:03.849 --> 00:29:06.299
that kind of thing. A lot of people now are like, well,
640
00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:08.519
I would rather a premium experience because I can sit
641
00:29:08.579 --> 00:29:12.660
home on TV, not paying $ 16 for a beer and
642
00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:15.319
a hot dog, and I can enjoy a great experience.
643
00:29:16.019 --> 00:29:19.220
So I want, at the ground, I want a better experience.
644
00:29:19.259 --> 00:29:21.720
So a lot of people want those premium seats. Now, yeah,
645
00:29:21.740 --> 00:29:23.380
it was $ 120, I think, for my seat in Bay 215.
646
00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:25.220
Not even free tissues because you're in the nosebleeds as well.
647
00:29:31.980 --> 00:29:32.700
You're high up.
648
00:29:32.819 --> 00:29:34.660
I'm high up, but it's Combank Stadium. It's not a core.
649
00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:35.079
I know, but.
650
00:29:35.099 --> 00:29:36.450
I'm not up at level six at a core or
651
00:29:36.490 --> 00:29:38.339
something like that. Have you ever been a level six
652
00:29:38.380 --> 00:29:40.160
at a core stadium? That is high.
653
00:29:40.180 --> 00:29:40.519
Yeah, I have.
654
00:29:40.579 --> 00:29:41.539
I was there for Oasis.
655
00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:42.680
That is high.
656
00:29:43.640 --> 00:29:44.220
But you know what I mean?
657
00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:47.200
Oasis, you've got to put– tribute band out there you
658
00:29:47.220 --> 00:29:48.240
wouldn't have known.
659
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:50.119
I wouldn't have known but no but like you're high
660
00:29:50.200 --> 00:29:52.200
up like you're not you're not in that bottom bowl
661
00:29:52.220 --> 00:29:56.509
where you're right close so you know that's just craziness.
662
00:29:55.990 --> 00:29:57.569
There is a bizarre thing though in rugby league where
663
00:29:57.609 --> 00:29:59.829
that second tier I don't necessarily agree with this is
664
00:29:59.849 --> 00:30:05.849
considered like better price wise but they consider sort of
665
00:30:06.009 --> 00:30:07.849
being up like penrith did this as well like our
666
00:30:07.890 --> 00:30:08.809
western stand.
667
00:30:08.539 --> 00:30:11.039
Tickets were more expensive but in combat like you and
668
00:30:11.140 --> 00:30:13.259
I were paying the same amount even though I was
669
00:30:13.299 --> 00:30:14.339
sitting close to the.
670
00:30:14.279 --> 00:30:19.609
Field but look I just think $ 120, okay, and you
671
00:30:19.670 --> 00:30:22.349
are going to buy a drink or you're going to
672
00:30:22.390 --> 00:30:24.710
get some food or whatever. So if you had a
673
00:30:24.750 --> 00:30:27.250
family of four doing that, you're talking like it's a
674
00:30:27.250 --> 00:30:28.880
$ 500 day out and we're only at week one.
675
00:30:28.890 --> 00:30:30.920
I remember going to a grand final a few years
676
00:30:30.940 --> 00:30:33.900
ago and I think paying like $ 160, $ 170 for like
677
00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:36.500
a ticket in the Panthers Bay like behind the post
678
00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:40.309
for a grand final. And these tickets used to be
679
00:30:40.410 --> 00:30:42.690
this much at Penrith. I think there were maybe 60
680
00:30:42.690 --> 00:30:43.309
for week one.
681
00:30:43.329 --> 00:30:45.490
Yeah. Do you remember that? I think there was definitely
682
00:30:45.789 --> 00:30:45.990
a 60.
683
00:30:45.970 --> 00:30:46.410
Yeah.
684
00:30:46.430 --> 00:30:48.789
Maybe 75. It wasn't too bad. I think it might
685
00:30:48.809 --> 00:30:51.319
have got to 75 in 2024. We doubled it two
686
00:30:51.690 --> 00:30:54.670
years later. We pretty much doubled to go see a
687
00:30:54.690 --> 00:30:59.039
week one final. I know. And I just think that
688
00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:03.079
maybe the NRL is starting. This is what worries me.
689
00:31:03.099 --> 00:31:05.619
You know when– it's like when a– I don't know,
690
00:31:05.680 --> 00:31:09.799
anything happens. When a singer– or a business goes from
691
00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:13.119
being the humble, like, thank you for your support, to
692
00:31:13.160 --> 00:31:15.259
now they're bigger than Ben-Hur, and suddenly they start to
693
00:31:15.299 --> 00:31:17.839
forget about the people that got them there.
694
00:31:17.859 --> 00:31:18.279
Yeah, for sure.
695
00:31:18.299 --> 00:31:20.680
And that worries me a little bit about the NRL
696
00:31:21.099 --> 00:31:23.690
at the moment, particularly because it's going so well more
697
00:31:23.730 --> 00:31:26.049
broadly that they just think, oh, power on, everything we're
698
00:31:26.069 --> 00:31:29.289
doing is great. But look, definitely some ticketing gripes there.
699
00:31:29.329 --> 00:31:31.609
And the biggest gripe I would have too is that
700
00:31:31.630 --> 00:31:33.650
if they do release these tickets, they're releasing some of
701
00:31:33.690 --> 00:31:36.769
the best tickets– later in the week when obviously the
702
00:31:36.789 --> 00:31:39.869
most loyal fans have already logged on as members and
703
00:31:39.930 --> 00:31:40.809
got them earlier.
704
00:31:40.829 --> 00:31:42.890
Yeah, because there was the risk that, hey, do I
705
00:31:43.029 --> 00:31:46.250
just leave it and hope that these sections open up,
706
00:31:46.269 --> 00:31:48.529
which we think they will. Some might be on Friday
707
00:31:48.569 --> 00:31:50.430
or Saturday it might open up. That's too late. What
708
00:31:50.450 --> 00:31:53.049
if you risk it and then you're really screwed?
709
00:31:53.109 --> 00:31:55.539
By then you've decided too, well, I know what I'm doing,
710
00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:57.359
so what, we're going to have these empty seats? It's
711
00:31:57.400 --> 00:32:00.160
just weird. The other thing that I thought was interesting,
712
00:32:00.180 --> 00:32:02.160
and maybe I can stand corrected here, I know that
713
00:32:02.180 --> 00:32:06.000
there's a– a transaction limit of eight tickets. So we've
714
00:32:06.019 --> 00:32:09.430
known this forever. So that's cool. Eight tickets, that's the rule.
715
00:32:09.450 --> 00:32:11.410
But I have always been able to go back in,
716
00:32:12.289 --> 00:32:15.650
not with the same member code, but with, you know,
717
00:32:15.710 --> 00:32:17.529
the general admission sale and pick up more tickets. I've
718
00:32:17.549 --> 00:32:19.490
done it, you know, maybe my mum's wanted some tickets
719
00:32:19.569 --> 00:32:20.950
or something like that. So yeah, we'll go back in
720
00:32:20.970 --> 00:32:24.900
and get them or use the other members code because
721
00:32:24.940 --> 00:32:27.660
I have two memberships. One for my wife, which is
722
00:32:28.019 --> 00:32:33.549
very underutilised and one for me. Now, yesterday... I went
723
00:32:33.609 --> 00:32:38.049
back in with her code and was accepted and then
724
00:32:38.089 --> 00:32:41.109
denied within seconds. It refunded it straight away and it said, look,
725
00:32:41.130 --> 00:32:44.170
you have your eight tickets to this event. So then
726
00:32:44.190 --> 00:32:47.259
I was like, okay, that's weird. So today I waited
727
00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:49.059
and I went into the general sale where I needed
728
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:51.079
to buy two extra tickets and the same thing happened.
729
00:32:51.099 --> 00:32:54.359
Now I've confirmed with the NRL, it's eight tickets to
730
00:32:54.380 --> 00:32:56.740
the event, sir. We do not want your money if
731
00:32:56.779 --> 00:32:58.279
you want an extra two people to come along.
732
00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:00.920
And now is that tied to the credit card or
733
00:33:00.940 --> 00:33:01.680
to your Ticketmaster account?
734
00:33:01.700 --> 00:33:02.720
To the Ticketmaster account.
735
00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:03.980
Does it matter about the credit card?
736
00:33:04.049 --> 00:33:04.220
No.
737
00:33:04.309 --> 00:33:07.670
So I could have– my mum can get her own
738
00:33:07.710 --> 00:33:10.210
tickets or whatever. Sure, get another Ticketmaster account. But I'm
739
00:33:10.230 --> 00:33:12.750
like– and I get maybe they're trying to do it
740
00:33:12.769 --> 00:33:15.569
like fraud and I'm going to on-sell tickets. I get that.
741
00:33:15.630 --> 00:33:17.789
But we're in a period of time where people go
742
00:33:17.809 --> 00:33:19.029
with big groups of people.
743
00:33:19.369 --> 00:33:20.190
Yeah.
744
00:33:21.690 --> 00:33:23.750
Or you might buy them from other half of people
745
00:33:23.769 --> 00:33:27.430
who don't necessarily– aren't great at buying tickets. I'm a
746
00:33:27.470 --> 00:33:28.210
very good ticket buyer.
747
00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:31.990
Yes, I consider myself a good ticket buyer. Very stressful experience,
748
00:33:32.009 --> 00:33:33.430
but I managed to get them, yes.
749
00:33:33.789 --> 00:33:37.509
And I just find it interesting that the NRL is saying, sorry, sir,
750
00:33:38.069 --> 00:33:40.269
even in the general sale, you are not allowed to
751
00:33:40.309 --> 00:33:41.829
buy two extra tickets to this match.
752
00:33:42.089 --> 00:33:42.970
Unbelievable.
753
00:33:43.130 --> 00:33:45.119
You cannot have them. You can come to the box office,
754
00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:46.619
I guess, on the day and buy them.
755
00:33:46.779 --> 00:33:48.579
Try your luck. You'll probably get some good seats, actually,
756
00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:49.059
on the day.
757
00:33:49.099 --> 00:33:51.819
Those two seats, you cannot have them because you already
758
00:33:51.880 --> 00:33:54.039
have eight seats to this game. Now, those eight seats
759
00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:57.109
are for my mates and myself. I bought them. on
760
00:33:57.150 --> 00:34:00.079
everyone's behalf, and now I need two for someone else.
761
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:03.980
They don't care where they sit, but thanks to Ticketmaster,
762
00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:07.089
I could have put them near me. No, it doesn't work.
763
00:34:07.140 --> 00:34:10.090
So what's your workaround? What was your hack? How did
764
00:34:10.110 --> 00:34:10.929
you get around it?
765
00:34:10.969 --> 00:34:15.949
I wouldn't comment on that. Someone in the office may
766
00:34:15.969 --> 00:34:20.050
have got a new Ticketmaster account. Okay, good, good. But look,
767
00:34:20.070 --> 00:34:21.929
we want to hear about your finals ticketing gripes, if
768
00:34:22.030 --> 00:34:26.989
there is some, and let us know. Podcast at westernweekender.com.au. Now, Nathan,
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we will get to the other finals soon too, but...
791
00:35:44.070 --> 00:35:46.730
Want to hit some other matters. You were at Panthers
792
00:35:46.929 --> 00:35:49.869
HQ today. Busy time. Very busy. This time of year,
793
00:35:49.889 --> 00:35:52.550
it's like some journos come out of hibernation as well.
794
00:35:52.630 --> 00:35:54.309
And we start to see a few that don't normally
795
00:35:54.369 --> 00:35:57.039
make the gruelling trek down the M4.
796
00:35:57.440 --> 00:36:01.340
Yeah, Troy. I rocked up probably 15 minutes early this morning.
797
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:04.519
It started at 9am and probably about a dozen people
798
00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:07.500
were already there. So they must have... They all think
799
00:36:07.539 --> 00:36:09.619
it takes two and a half hours. Well, yeah, that's true.
800
00:36:09.659 --> 00:36:12.619
They all come from far and wide. Some people drive there.
801
00:36:12.659 --> 00:36:15.329
Some people get ubers or whatever to get to a
802
00:36:15.429 --> 00:36:18.699
walk i saw adrian brzenko walking really yeah i don't
803
00:36:18.719 --> 00:36:20.579
know where he was coming from but yeah he was
804
00:36:20.619 --> 00:36:23.659
walking um walking to the to the academy from from
805
00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:26.409
somewhere uh so uh yeah it was a good turnout
806
00:36:27.090 --> 00:36:30.210
um surprisingly brent reed showed up half an hour late
807
00:36:30.230 --> 00:36:32.269
i'm not sure what he was doing there um i
808
00:36:32.289 --> 00:36:34.449
didn't see him actually interview anyone he was just sort
809
00:36:34.469 --> 00:36:37.840
of Hanging around. But definitely a first for the year
810
00:36:37.860 --> 00:36:40.260
seeing Brent Reid. So I know there's some Brent Reid
811
00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:43.090
spotters out there on X and Twitter and ask me
812
00:36:43.130 --> 00:36:45.889
all the time, has Brent Reid come? Well, you can
813
00:36:45.929 --> 00:36:49.070
restart that count today, folks. He was there on, what
814
00:36:49.150 --> 00:36:52.309
day is it? September 8th, day zero.
815
00:36:52.530 --> 00:36:52.909
Brent Reid.
816
00:36:52.929 --> 00:36:53.250
There it is.
817
00:36:53.250 --> 00:36:53.909
Brent Reid watch.
818
00:36:54.269 --> 00:36:54.989
There you go.
819
00:36:54.989 --> 00:36:55.570
He's been there.
820
00:36:56.429 --> 00:36:58.320
Now, while you were there, you had a chat with
821
00:36:58.340 --> 00:37:02.460
Tom Jenkins. Asked him about, of course, his equaling. the
822
00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:06.820
try-scoring record this year with Alex Johnston, 30 tries apiece.
823
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:08.559
So we'll have a listen to a bit of that chat.
824
00:37:09.099 --> 00:37:12.960
Well, mate, congrats on the equal try-scoring record.
825
00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:13.030
The other day.
826
00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:14.699
I'm sure you're getting asked about it a lot, but
827
00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:16.460
it got close there in the end, didn't it?
828
00:37:16.539 --> 00:37:18.030
Yeah, it did.
829
00:37:18.789 --> 00:37:22.050
I guess you could say at half-time, most would be
830
00:37:22.070 --> 00:37:23.489
thinking that I was going to get another, so.
831
00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:26.940
yeah it was cool but it's also just cool to
832
00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:28.679
be able to share it with AJ I said it
833
00:37:28.699 --> 00:37:31.199
just then he's such a quality player I enjoy watching
834
00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:35.659
him and yeah it's a cool thing to be able
835
00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:36.199
to I.
836
00:37:36.099 --> 00:37:38.420
Guess have yeah sharing with a legend like you yeah
837
00:37:38.460 --> 00:37:40.739
it's crazy do they create two medals yeah you would
838
00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:42.320
or you get to share and you have it.
839
00:37:42.300 --> 00:37:43.650
For six months you have it for six months oh
840
00:37:43.690 --> 00:37:45.150
I'm not too sure to be fair he's played less
841
00:37:45.190 --> 00:37:48.429
games so he's probably more deserving so if it comes
842
00:37:48.469 --> 00:37:51.650
down to that then I can I can yeah he
843
00:37:51.670 --> 00:37:53.190
can have it if that's what it needs to be
844
00:37:53.210 --> 00:37:55.699
he's he's such a quality player.
845
00:37:57.190 --> 00:38:00.690
Was it on your mind in that final game? You
846
00:38:00.730 --> 00:38:02.510
were leading the whole year up until probably the last
847
00:38:02.550 --> 00:38:04.269
two weeks. Was it on your mind to, no, I
848
00:38:04.309 --> 00:38:04.650
want this?
849
00:38:06.150 --> 00:38:08.710
Not massively in that sense. I more just wanted to
850
00:38:08.730 --> 00:38:12.590
put out a good performance and I guess you score
851
00:38:12.769 --> 00:38:15.349
one and then you can hear it and then I
852
00:38:15.949 --> 00:38:20.349
scored the second and thought, oh, maybe. But in saying that,
853
00:38:20.530 --> 00:38:23.079
it was so early in the game and Um, once
854
00:38:23.139 --> 00:38:24.760
it sort of got, maybe the last 20 minutes was
855
00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:26.280
when I was like, oh, let's see if we can,
856
00:38:26.300 --> 00:38:28.719
we can get one. But it wasn't a big deal.
857
00:38:29.099 --> 00:38:30.699
And Nate said in the post-match, he didn't want any
858
00:38:30.860 --> 00:38:32.880
cheap tries as well on this journey as well. So
859
00:38:32.920 --> 00:38:34.920
are you proud of that? That all your tries were,
860
00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:36.219
none of them were cheap.
861
00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:38.639
Yeah, I guess. I'm pretty lucky.
862
00:38:38.659 --> 00:38:39.179
I've got Case.
863
00:38:39.780 --> 00:38:43.420
Um, Case on my right-hand side. He's usually setting, setting
864
00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:44.079
me up for a few.
865
00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:46.559
So, uh, you could say there'd be a few cheap
866
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:48.170
ones there, but nah, I didn't want any of it.
867
00:38:48.179 --> 00:38:51.659
Um, run of the way, just pass him, pass him
868
00:38:51.699 --> 00:38:54.480
in the end goal. I just wanted, um, ones that
869
00:38:54.500 --> 00:38:56.460
I earned. Uh, if I got him, I got him.
870
00:38:56.519 --> 00:38:57.059
If I didn't, I didn't.
871
00:38:57.780 --> 00:39:01.719
Uh, that's sort of the thought around it. That's Tom Jenkins. So, um, yeah,
872
00:39:01.739 --> 00:39:03.489
he was, uh, look, he, he could have got a
873
00:39:03.510 --> 00:39:06.389
little sneaky try there from Dylan Edwards to make it 31. But, um,
874
00:39:06.409 --> 00:39:10.230
I think even, uh, Nathan Cleary said in the post-match
875
00:39:10.269 --> 00:39:11.889
presser that he didn't want any of those gifts.
876
00:39:12.250 --> 00:39:15.199
Yeah, yeah, exactly right. No, I think he's very grateful
877
00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:17.679
to have the red-hot season that he had, like he said.
878
00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:20.119
And he even was gracious enough, he thought, is that
879
00:39:20.179 --> 00:39:22.500
Alex Johnson's probably paid less games than me and scored
880
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:25.250
the same amount. Give him the Ken Irvine medal. What
881
00:39:25.289 --> 00:39:26.550
a nice guy Milky is.
882
00:39:27.489 --> 00:39:29.610
We can blame Patrick Herbert, too, the Tigers' centre, because
883
00:39:29.670 --> 00:39:32.860
Casey McGrath... got over three times and didn't need to
884
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:36.920
pass it over to Tom Jenkins. Now, Panthers memberships. This
885
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:41.050
is interesting. They have quietly appeared online. There's been no
886
00:39:41.150 --> 00:39:43.449
formal announcement, but we've had a, A bit of a
887
00:39:43.469 --> 00:39:47.400
detailed look at the memberships next year. There's been a
888
00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:51.230
few interesting things. Anything in particular hit your interest there, Nathan?
889
00:39:51.750 --> 00:39:56.170
Yeah, Troy, of course. Yeah, like they've obviously our first
890
00:39:56.210 --> 00:39:59.570
year back at Halloworld Stadium, the new Penrith Park for
891
00:39:59.909 --> 00:40:02.050
after two years at ComBank. And we finally get a
892
00:40:02.070 --> 00:40:04.570
bit of insight as to some of the packages that
893
00:40:04.610 --> 00:40:07.679
are available, Troy, and the seat map as well. And
894
00:40:07.739 --> 00:40:10.340
how some of the, speaking of bays and caesars, it
895
00:40:10.380 --> 00:40:13.539
feels like this is the topic for seating. We get
896
00:40:13.559 --> 00:40:16.670
an insight as to where people are going to be seated,
897
00:40:16.710 --> 00:40:19.010
whether it's in the West or the East. The hills
898
00:40:19.110 --> 00:40:22.090
are a bit of a topic of discussion as well,
899
00:40:22.130 --> 00:40:25.210
which we'll mention, Troy. But, yeah, there's some new categories
900
00:40:25.250 --> 00:40:27.750
as well that's been announced. So you and I, we're
901
00:40:27.809 --> 00:40:31.869
Platinum members. We are currently Platinum members at ComBank, but
902
00:40:31.909 --> 00:40:35.090
there's another membership that's about to be released called the
903
00:40:35.139 --> 00:40:39.739
Diamond Package, which is one above the Platinum, right, Troy?
904
00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:43.590
Well, it is, and I would have to argue... that if, uh,
905
00:40:43.630 --> 00:40:46.429
Panthers are to keep their original promise, which was that you,
906
00:40:46.489 --> 00:40:48.889
if you were a 2024 member and you stayed a
907
00:40:48.929 --> 00:40:52.570
ticketed member at ComBank in 2025 and 2026, that you
908
00:40:52.610 --> 00:40:57.110
would get first priority on return, including the, um, you know,
909
00:40:57.210 --> 00:41:00.150
equivalent seats, the best that they could, like for like.
910
00:41:00.190 --> 00:41:02.309
Now for that to be like for like in both
911
00:41:02.349 --> 00:41:04.429
of our circumstances, we would have to go from a
912
00:41:04.750 --> 00:41:08.469
platinum membership to this newly created diamond membership. Um, which
913
00:41:08.489 --> 00:41:12.019
is a bit more expensive. Um, But those are sort
914
00:41:12.039 --> 00:41:15.769
of the three middle bays on the west and the
915
00:41:15.909 --> 00:41:19.929
three sort of upper bays in the east. Now, what
916
00:41:19.969 --> 00:41:23.530
people might be interested in, Western Stand members, you're going back.
917
00:41:23.659 --> 00:41:25.880
I know that there's– I still hear people talk about this.
918
00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:27.639
I hear some people in the crowd the other day
919
00:41:28.159 --> 00:41:31.300
still not believing– that they're going back to the Western Stand,
920
00:41:31.380 --> 00:41:35.000
but the seats are there. That promise has been fulfilled
921
00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:36.920
in terms of the seats being there.
922
00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:40.019
Are there enough seats there, Troy? Yes. Okay, so I
923
00:41:40.039 --> 00:41:42.119
was told today by Panthers, and they said we can
924
00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:45.579
say this on air, that if you were undercover at
925
00:41:45.619 --> 00:41:48.440
the last stadium and weren't getting wet, you will be
926
00:41:48.519 --> 00:41:49.940
undercover in this stadium.
927
00:41:50.340 --> 00:41:50.500
Yep.
928
00:41:50.519 --> 00:41:51.119
Okay? Okay.
929
00:41:51.530 --> 00:41:53.670
So is that going to– is some of it going
930
00:41:53.690 --> 00:41:56.190
to have to shift to the east to accommodate everyone
931
00:41:56.210 --> 00:41:58.880
in the west being undercover? Maybe, but– Or is there
932
00:41:58.900 --> 00:41:59.480
going to be enough?
933
00:41:59.820 --> 00:42:02.900
But I saw a photo, a photo that pretty much
934
00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:07.539
showed the west is pretty well almost all covered. So
935
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:08.099
I don't know.
936
00:42:08.119 --> 00:42:13.070
Yeah, but the closer you get, obviously, you're in trouble.
937
00:42:13.449 --> 00:42:16.409
But look, possibly, but I think put it this way,
938
00:42:16.449 --> 00:42:19.269
at least the seats are there. That promise was fulfilled.
939
00:42:19.309 --> 00:42:21.210
We fought hard for that. Everyone fought hard for that.
940
00:42:21.269 --> 00:42:22.210
I want to stay in the West.
941
00:42:22.250 --> 00:42:25.559
That we were not going to have the Western stand
942
00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:28.460
be all corporate like it is at CommBank because it
943
00:42:28.500 --> 00:42:30.880
shouldn't be like that. Yes, the other thing you mentioned
944
00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:33.139
is the hill. Now, we are seeking answers on this one.
945
00:42:33.179 --> 00:42:33.579
We are.
946
00:42:33.619 --> 00:42:36.219
We haven't got an official answer yet. But the seat
947
00:42:36.260 --> 00:42:42.400
map specifically says south standing on what was the Beer Hill.
948
00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:42.960
Yep.
949
00:42:43.940 --> 00:42:48.000
And north standing on what is the Family Hill. Yep. Now,
950
00:42:48.989 --> 00:42:51.070
I'm not sure what that means. Does that mean if
951
00:42:51.110 --> 00:42:55.150
I turn up with a picnic basket– sorry, picnic rug
952
00:42:56.010 --> 00:42:58.130
and want to sit there, which you can do in–
953
00:42:58.429 --> 00:43:00.829
you know, it's been harder to do in recent times
954
00:43:00.889 --> 00:43:03.349
because the crowds have been so massive. But, you know,
955
00:43:03.590 --> 00:43:06.480
middle of winter– crowd of 12 or 13,000, you've typically
956
00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:08.659
been able to do that. Is that out? Are we
957
00:43:08.699 --> 00:43:13.030
saying that no sitting? If I sit down, someone's going
958
00:43:13.050 --> 00:43:13.690
to come and say.
959
00:43:14.389 --> 00:43:16.829
If your kid sits down, get up, get up, get up. Look,
960
00:43:17.110 --> 00:43:19.809
I spoke to Panthers today and they were a bit
961
00:43:20.630 --> 00:43:23.610
coy about the whole thing. They wanted to prepare a
962
00:43:24.510 --> 00:43:26.469
better answer for me. So they didn't want to give
963
00:43:26.530 --> 00:43:29.789
too much away. But I believe that you will be
964
00:43:29.849 --> 00:43:30.389
able to sit.
965
00:43:30.409 --> 00:43:31.070
Okay.
966
00:43:31.190 --> 00:43:34.389
You will be able to sit. Don't quote me, but
967
00:43:34.449 --> 00:43:36.530
I got the impression that, no, that's, as I said,
968
00:43:36.550 --> 00:43:38.050
what if you want to sit down with a picnic blanket?
969
00:43:38.090 --> 00:43:40.889
And they sort of looked at me going on, that
970
00:43:40.929 --> 00:43:43.110
should be fine, but we've got to double check.
971
00:43:43.500 --> 00:43:46.599
How are we dealing with this? Are we serious? Are
972
00:43:46.639 --> 00:43:49.039
we serious? There's got to be a reason that that
973
00:43:49.099 --> 00:43:50.780
word is there, standing.
974
00:43:50.820 --> 00:43:53.980
Now, a cynic- I know where you're going with this.
975
00:43:54.000 --> 00:44:01.940
Would suggest that to- justify this supposed increase in capacity...
976
00:44:01.139 --> 00:44:05.480
To 25,000. You are saying that, well, this is the
977
00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:07.500
capacity of the hills if everyone is standing.
978
00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:08.619
Yeah.
979
00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:11.639
So is that what the reason they're calling it standing?
980
00:44:12.869 --> 00:44:15.670
Is it still going to be the family hill? I
981
00:44:15.690 --> 00:44:17.630
don't think you could buy alcohol on that hill.
982
00:44:17.650 --> 00:44:18.269
No, you couldn't, no.
983
00:44:19.050 --> 00:44:21.650
There is one alcohol-free bay. The other thing, of course,
984
00:44:21.730 --> 00:44:26.650
is there appears to be no general admission seating. So...
985
00:44:27.340 --> 00:44:27.699
So if you.
986
00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:30.260
Are general admission, you have to stand on the hills.
987
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:31.679
That's correct? You have to stand on the hill. You
988
00:44:31.699 --> 00:44:32.110
won't be able to sit.
989
00:44:32.139 --> 00:44:33.139
The standing seats, yes.
990
00:44:33.719 --> 00:44:37.519
The standing seats. Now, that's interesting because that previously was
991
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:40.780
not the case. There was some areas. I mean, over
992
00:44:40.800 --> 00:44:42.420
the years, that changed a lot. There was a time
993
00:44:42.460 --> 00:44:44.940
when that whole sort of terrace was general admission and whatever.
994
00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:47.719
That changed over the years. The den, if you're a
995
00:44:47.800 --> 00:44:51.119
den member, what I find interesting about being a den
996
00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:53.260
member is that the den is going to be three
997
00:44:53.340 --> 00:44:58.489
bays and On the eastern side, eastern terrace, closest to
998
00:44:58.570 --> 00:45:02.550
the Beer Hill, that's the den. But there's three den bays,
999
00:45:02.610 --> 00:45:05.829
and they're all different levels. So there's a bronze den,
1000
00:45:06.349 --> 00:45:09.590
a silver den, and a gold den. Okay. So that's
1001
00:45:09.630 --> 00:45:11.530
interesting that you can be in the den.
1002
00:45:11.550 --> 00:45:13.730
Because the den used to be general admin or– I
1003
00:45:13.730 --> 00:45:14.329
think at one.
1004
00:45:14.230 --> 00:45:15.250
Stage it was general admin.
1005
00:45:15.289 --> 00:45:15.510
Right.
1006
00:45:15.550 --> 00:45:16.789
Yeah, like, you know, it was just you had a
1007
00:45:16.789 --> 00:45:20.909
den membership and sat in there. So that's interesting. Okay.
1008
00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:26.409
Then the other thing, which we've also discovered, is that
1009
00:45:26.449 --> 00:45:30.690
Panthers will be implementing the ability to, they're calling it lease,
1010
00:45:31.429 --> 00:45:34.090
sell your seat for a game if you can't go. So,
1011
00:45:34.489 --> 00:45:36.070
you know, you've committed to go to a wedding.
1012
00:45:36.619 --> 00:45:36.800
Yep.
1013
00:45:36.980 --> 00:45:40.139
Some idiot's put their wedding on Panthers Titans round eight.
1014
00:45:40.380 --> 00:45:40.559
Yep.
1015
00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:43.760
Without looking at the draw. And you can't, you've decided
1016
00:45:43.780 --> 00:45:47.719
to go to the wedding. and your seat's not going
1017
00:45:47.739 --> 00:45:50.420
to be available, so you think, great, I'll get my
1018
00:45:50.420 --> 00:45:52.179
$ 50 back, right? That's how it works?
1019
00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:53.139
Yeah.
1020
00:45:53.139 --> 00:45:53.539
$ 50 back?
1021
00:45:53.619 --> 00:45:55.960
Well, yeah, depending on how much your seat is worth,
1022
00:45:56.019 --> 00:45:56.260
I guess.
1023
00:45:56.300 --> 00:45:57.880
Okay. And I get the $ 50, do I not?
1024
00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:00.159
Well, that would be the smart idea, yes.
1025
00:46:00.739 --> 00:46:01.800
That appears not to be the case.
1026
00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:03.480
Who gets the cash?
1027
00:46:03.880 --> 00:46:08.119
So you'll get a membership, a Panther Shop voucher, but
1028
00:46:08.139 --> 00:46:10.869
it would appear that Panthers nets the cash essentially for
1029
00:46:10.909 --> 00:46:13.900
a second time. So I find that a bit odd.
1030
00:46:14.780 --> 00:46:18.900
Maybe Panthers can justify how that works. So say I've paid,
1031
00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:22.619
I think, $ 60, right? The equivalent of $ 60 per game
1032
00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:26.260
to be a Diamond member. I would have thought that
1033
00:46:26.300 --> 00:46:28.500
maybe I could sell that and maybe someone would buy
1034
00:46:28.539 --> 00:46:30.719
it for $ 40 or even the $ 60 and I would
1035
00:46:30.739 --> 00:46:35.070
get the $ 60. Maybe minus a fee for the admin
1036
00:46:35.110 --> 00:46:38.349
of it, but apparently not. Apparently if that person pays $ 60,
1037
00:46:38.050 --> 00:46:40.550
Panthers is getting the $ 60 that they've already got from me. Mm-hmm.
1038
00:46:41.099 --> 00:46:43.659
And then they're giving me a merch voucher to some value.
1039
00:46:43.699 --> 00:46:45.280
I'm not sure. It doesn't say what value.
1040
00:46:45.579 --> 00:46:47.320
Well, you'd think it would, you'd hope it would be
1041
00:46:47.340 --> 00:46:49.340
to the amount that your seat is, right? I would
1042
00:46:49.360 --> 00:46:52.940
imagine so, but why can't I just get the cash?
1043
00:46:53.340 --> 00:46:55.039
Isn't this being, this will be being done through a
1044
00:46:55.059 --> 00:46:57.420
ticket master, I presume. Yeah.
1045
00:46:57.480 --> 00:47:00.420
Or ticket tech or whoever's looking after the venue. So
1046
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:02.820
Panthers wouldn't even have anything to do with it. So
1047
00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:04.860
why can't we just, it happened at that level.
1048
00:47:05.239 --> 00:47:05.489
Yeah.
1049
00:47:05.530 --> 00:47:07.989
Look, it's, it's obviously something I don't think we've encountered
1050
00:47:08.030 --> 00:47:10.780
in the NRL before where, you know, you can, you
1051
00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:13.880
can on-sell your ticket. Obviously in the States, in America,
1052
00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:16.139
a lot of people that go to basketball games.
1053
00:47:16.280 --> 00:47:17.610
I bought an NBA game.
1054
00:47:17.650 --> 00:47:18.550
NFL games.
1055
00:47:18.610 --> 00:47:21.070
Madison Square Garden. I presume that the guy I bought it,
1056
00:47:21.090 --> 00:47:21.630
I've got the money.
1057
00:47:21.650 --> 00:47:22.210
Correct.
1058
00:47:22.389 --> 00:47:22.630
Correct.
1059
00:47:22.690 --> 00:47:25.210
Yeah. You buy it off a seat geek or one
1060
00:47:25.230 --> 00:47:28.510
of those reseller apps. And that's how you go to
1061
00:47:28.530 --> 00:47:31.150
the game. And you're essentially buying someone's season ticket or
1062
00:47:31.170 --> 00:47:33.110
someone that can't go to the game. You buy their
1063
00:47:33.150 --> 00:47:36.230
ticket and they can actually set the price for those tickets, Troy.
1064
00:47:36.269 --> 00:47:39.230
The sellers can, can, can set the price and, You know,
1065
00:47:39.250 --> 00:47:42.250
if it's a premium game or a sold-out game, they
1066
00:47:42.269 --> 00:47:44.389
can jack up the price. And that's just how it
1067
00:47:44.449 --> 00:47:45.989
works over in the States. Whether we need to do
1068
00:47:46.050 --> 00:47:46.789
that here, I don't know.
1069
00:47:46.809 --> 00:47:48.369
I don't even know if that's allowed to happen here.
1070
00:47:48.409 --> 00:47:50.300
We do have some sort of resale rule.
1071
00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:53.340
Sure, but at least the seller gets the money. So
1072
00:47:53.360 --> 00:47:55.559
Panthers are getting the money. Then they're giving you a voucher.
1073
00:47:55.579 --> 00:47:57.579
Then you're giving back that voucher to Panthers because you're
1074
00:47:57.599 --> 00:48:00.659
getting some of their merch, which, you know, you're going
1075
00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:01.300
to– All that.
1076
00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:04.800
Encourages to me is that I'm going to just give
1077
00:48:04.820 --> 00:48:06.949
someone the ticket or sell it on the– We'll call
1078
00:48:06.969 --> 00:48:08.070
it the black market. I don't know if there's a
1079
00:48:08.070 --> 00:48:11.320
black market for Panthers membership tickets, but I'm more likely
1080
00:48:11.340 --> 00:48:12.320
just to give that to someone.
1081
00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:14.159
Just how you do it. Yeah, yeah.
1082
00:48:14.179 --> 00:48:14.719
Have my seat.
1083
00:48:14.780 --> 00:48:14.980
Yeah.
1084
00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:16.219
It seems a lot easier.
1085
00:48:16.739 --> 00:48:19.639
Yeah. Very odd. The other thing I found interesting, which
1086
00:48:19.679 --> 00:48:25.280
I'm not– look, do I need another Panthers hat or
1087
00:48:25.320 --> 00:48:28.360
Panthers piece of merch? Probably not. But we appear to
1088
00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:33.949
be going away from the member plus store, which was
1089
00:48:33.989 --> 00:48:36.449
a disaster in the first year. I remember that like
1090
00:48:36.469 --> 00:48:39.389
it was the world's worst website. And I think you
1091
00:48:39.409 --> 00:48:42.639
had a $ 75 or depending on your membership level probably,
1092
00:48:42.659 --> 00:48:44.619
a voucher to spend. And some of the merch was
1093
00:48:44.679 --> 00:48:46.639
okay and some of it was not so okay. But
1094
00:48:46.659 --> 00:48:48.280
I didn't mind it because with $ 75 you can still,
1095
00:48:48.320 --> 00:48:50.539
you know, you can still buy some decent stuff.
1096
00:48:50.579 --> 00:48:53.389
Because they replaced that. You used to get a hat
1097
00:48:53.449 --> 00:48:55.269
and you used to get maybe a scarf or some
1098
00:48:55.309 --> 00:48:56.230
other bits and pieces.
1099
00:48:56.250 --> 00:48:56.329
Yeah.
1100
00:48:57.139 --> 00:48:58.659
When you became a member and then they're like, oh,
1101
00:48:58.679 --> 00:49:00.780
people got enough of these. Let's give them choice. So
1102
00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:02.110
we'll give them a voucher.
1103
00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:04.449
So it appears this year we're going back to a
1104
00:49:04.570 --> 00:49:10.889
Panther Shop voucher, $ 30 for a member. Now, I don't
1105
00:49:10.909 --> 00:49:13.309
think $ 30 buys you even a hat, does it?
1106
00:49:13.550 --> 00:49:15.730
It probably maybe just might get you a hat.
1107
00:49:16.269 --> 00:49:18.190
I'm just, I don't know. I look at that and go,
1108
00:49:18.230 --> 00:49:20.280
I want, and look, maybe we'll do, it on the
1109
00:49:20.300 --> 00:49:22.420
podcast one day. We'll compare what other clubs are doing.
1110
00:49:23.019 --> 00:49:27.719
But I feel like I want some sort of exclusive
1111
00:49:28.340 --> 00:49:30.380
members thing. I open a box and I'm like, how
1112
00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:31.780
good is this? I've got this year, I've got a hat.
1113
00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:33.420
Or this year, I've got a stubby hat. Like, whatever
1114
00:49:33.460 --> 00:49:36.780
it is. Yeah. I think the $ 30 voucher thing, yeah.
1115
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:38.320
Yeah, yeah, no, I agree.
1116
00:49:38.360 --> 00:49:38.610
I think.
1117
00:49:39.980 --> 00:49:43.730
These memberships have gotten more and more expensive. I remember
1118
00:49:43.750 --> 00:49:47.090
when I first started going, being a Panthers member 15
1119
00:49:47.090 --> 00:49:50.900
years ago, I was in Platinum where I am now, $ 280, $ 300.
1120
00:49:50.550 --> 00:49:54.010
Now we're there with the dark old dingy days and
1121
00:49:54.250 --> 00:49:56.909
everything's gone up in price. But from next year, I
1122
00:49:57.510 --> 00:50:00.519
think my ticket's going to be $ 600 for 10 games.
1123
00:50:00.539 --> 00:50:02.480
Which we should say is not that much more expensive
1124
00:50:02.500 --> 00:50:04.900
than now. So this isn't a return to Hello World thing.
1125
00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:07.079
But yes, over the years, it's increased significantly.
1126
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:10.289
But like I said to you, you've got to be
1127
00:50:10.329 --> 00:50:14.530
careful you don't price people out. This is an economy
1128
00:50:14.989 --> 00:50:17.449
and a world we live in where everything's expensive and
1129
00:50:18.090 --> 00:50:21.150
people can't afford these luxuries like going to Panthers games
1130
00:50:21.170 --> 00:50:23.360
and spending a lot on games. And I know that
1131
00:50:23.510 --> 00:50:26.000
no one's forcing them to do it, but Penrith and
1132
00:50:26.539 --> 00:50:29.960
Rugby League are built on families and young people and
1133
00:50:30.179 --> 00:50:34.320
whoever going to games. And if you're pricing them out,
1134
00:50:35.179 --> 00:50:37.659
for whatever reason, whether because the team's successful or you've
1135
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:39.340
got a new stadium, you've got to pay off to
1136
00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:42.710
the government or whatever. You've got to be careful.
1137
00:50:42.909 --> 00:50:46.599
Yeah, absolutely. The other thing, which will annoy some people
1138
00:50:46.679 --> 00:50:48.059
and some people it won't, but it looks like we
1139
00:50:48.079 --> 00:50:50.679
are going to digital membership card for next year. So
1140
00:50:50.699 --> 00:50:51.360
you won't get.
1141
00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:54.179
Your plastic card. I think that's a terrible idea.
1142
00:50:54.659 --> 00:50:57.219
Look, I understand why it happens, but I agree. I
1143
00:50:57.239 --> 00:50:58.920
want the physical card.
1144
00:50:58.940 --> 00:50:59.119
You can't.
1145
00:50:59.139 --> 00:51:02.090
What if someone doesn't have a phone or the phone's stuffed?
1146
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:04.329
Yeah. And can I just say again, guys?
1147
00:51:04.610 --> 00:51:06.110
Kids don't have phones.
1148
00:51:06.170 --> 00:51:09.119
People are not thinking. Like people want these as either
1149
00:51:09.159 --> 00:51:11.219
mementos or that's their extra special thing.
1150
00:51:11.360 --> 00:51:13.280
At the moment, like- It costs 20 cents to make
1151
00:51:13.300 --> 00:51:14.000
one of these plastic cards.
1152
00:51:14.059 --> 00:51:17.210
Well, exactly. And we have a printer. We print your
1153
00:51:17.250 --> 00:51:19.409
Leagues Club card. Why can't we just borrow that printer
1154
00:51:19.429 --> 00:51:19.800
and print it?
1155
00:51:20.250 --> 00:51:22.789
So as I read that and I'm like, is that
1156
00:51:22.829 --> 00:51:25.429
just in addition or we're not getting that plastic card?
1157
00:51:25.469 --> 00:51:27.389
No, no, no. I think it's the plastic card's gone,
1158
00:51:27.409 --> 00:51:29.869
which I think we did one other year. One other
1159
00:51:29.889 --> 00:51:32.010
year we did it, but you could buy the plastic
1160
00:51:32.050 --> 00:51:33.739
card in the member store. That's right, on the member store.
1161
00:51:34.389 --> 00:51:37.630
which I did. We all did. Because I want the card. Now,
1162
00:51:37.949 --> 00:51:40.230
I know it sounds silly, but it's like you've got
1163
00:51:40.250 --> 00:51:42.269
to be offering members something that they can't get elsewhere.
1164
00:51:42.289 --> 00:51:44.050
And I'm looking at this right now and I'm like, well,
1165
00:51:44.070 --> 00:51:46.070
digital membership card, how is that different to a digital
1166
00:51:46.110 --> 00:51:49.280
ticket if I just buy a one-off ticket? A $ 30
1167
00:51:49.039 --> 00:51:52.159
Panther Shop voucher, is that encouraging me to be a member?
1168
00:51:53.500 --> 00:51:55.440
Do you know 10% off ability to list my seat?
1169
00:51:55.480 --> 00:51:58.000
Like you're actually starting to reduce– I know the whole
1170
00:51:58.070 --> 00:51:59.849
point is to go to the game. You're starting to
1171
00:51:59.889 --> 00:52:04.929
reduce my, I guess– perks of being a member yeah
1172
00:52:05.070 --> 00:52:05.510
you know.
1173
00:52:05.409 --> 00:52:07.969
So obviously we're just shooting the the breathe you know
1174
00:52:08.150 --> 00:52:09.949
the talk at the moment but if you know at
1175
00:52:09.989 --> 00:52:12.070
some point we will probably chat to people at panthers
1176
00:52:12.349 --> 00:52:14.760
yeah who are in the know and who maybe came
1177
00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:16.980
up with some of these packages and just drill them
1178
00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:19.579
a little bit as to what why why have you
1179
00:52:19.619 --> 00:52:21.420
done it this way what what prompted you to make
1180
00:52:21.460 --> 00:52:25.739
these decisions um because yeah i think once these more
1181
00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:27.659
of the public know about this site and and do
1182
00:52:27.699 --> 00:52:30.280
some of their own digging and research as to what
1183
00:52:30.320 --> 00:52:32.489
they want next year i'd they're probably going to be
1184
00:52:32.510 --> 00:52:33.329
a bit confused as well.
1185
00:52:33.409 --> 00:52:35.880
It probably sounds like we're on the whinge and being critical.
1186
00:52:37.039 --> 00:52:38.920
It would probably be a hard job to– It's a.
1187
00:52:38.900 --> 00:52:41.039
Very– you can't please everyone, but we're just trying to
1188
00:52:41.079 --> 00:52:44.519
pick some things out here that are worthy of discussion.
1189
00:52:44.699 --> 00:52:47.280
We know that the Panthers membership team do a great job.
1190
00:52:47.619 --> 00:52:49.590
It's no criticism of them. They've got to balance the
1191
00:52:49.630 --> 00:52:51.969
books as well. But just some of these things I
1192
00:52:52.010 --> 00:52:55.389
think that are actually easy decisions, like printing a 20-cent card,
1193
00:52:55.429 --> 00:52:58.829
as you said, and things like that, we can achieve that.
1194
00:52:59.030 --> 00:53:02.519
And no discounts at– There won't be.
1195
00:53:02.659 --> 00:53:04.780
No, that's out. That's gone as well.
1196
00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:05.699
That's not being promoted either.
1197
00:53:05.719 --> 00:53:07.659
The other thing I think is interesting. So a general
1198
00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:11.150
admin membership, I think it's $ 20 per game. $ 200 per season.
1199
00:53:11.170 --> 00:53:14.489
I think that actually may be cheaper than it even
1200
00:53:14.510 --> 00:53:16.849
is now. So that's great. But that person gets the
1201
00:53:17.010 --> 00:53:20.519
same value Panther Shop voucher as someone who buys a
1202
00:53:20.519 --> 00:53:24.039
$ 600 membership. I just think things like that are interesting. Yeah,
1203
00:53:24.059 --> 00:53:25.400
that's bizarre. So anyway.
1204
00:53:26.219 --> 00:53:28.280
More accessible seating, though, Troy, apparently, as well.
1205
00:53:28.500 --> 00:53:31.940
Yes, yes. All right, moving on from that, we said
1206
00:53:31.960 --> 00:53:34.000
briefly on other matters. We've talked about that for a while.
1207
00:53:34.219 --> 00:53:39.239
Nathan Cleary, as always, asked about his future on 100% Footy.
1208
00:53:39.260 --> 00:53:39.940
Let's have a listen to that.
1209
00:53:40.260 --> 00:53:42.699
Yeah, it does a bit, probably because of the fact
1210
00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:45.389
that I never thought that it was possible. I never
1211
00:53:45.469 --> 00:53:48.170
even had thought about it. So when it did become
1212
00:53:48.190 --> 00:53:50.989
a possibility, I was like, oh, just the opportunity to
1213
00:53:51.010 --> 00:53:54.239
even train with him every single day, that's... yeah it
1214
00:53:54.260 --> 00:53:56.440
means the world to me and it's something that I'd
1215
00:53:56.480 --> 00:53:59.059
really love to do and I feel like I can
1216
00:53:59.460 --> 00:54:01.440
offer a lot to him and his development as well
1217
00:54:01.880 --> 00:54:05.579
just to see that and yeah we'll see what happens
1218
00:54:05.739 --> 00:54:07.099
I know you get sick of being asked about the
1219
00:54:07.139 --> 00:54:09.039
future too is there a chance you might decide before
1220
00:54:09.260 --> 00:54:13.000
that November 1 scenario there is a chance yeah so
1221
00:54:14.199 --> 00:54:15.940
but yeah we'll see what happens.
1222
00:54:15.719 --> 00:54:19.510
He's not going anywhere no way he pretty much just
1223
00:54:19.550 --> 00:54:22.090
told us he's signing on he wants to play with
1224
00:54:22.110 --> 00:54:24.980
Jen I love it Well done, Bryce.
1225
00:54:25.039 --> 00:54:26.139
Look at us go.
1226
00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:29.420
I don't want to put too much thought into it
1227
00:54:29.460 --> 00:54:32.219
right now because I don't want to drain that mental energy.
1228
00:54:32.239 --> 00:54:34.519
I want to put it all into this final series
1229
00:54:34.619 --> 00:54:36.360
and hope to make it a special one.
1230
00:54:37.179 --> 00:54:40.489
And I think the more and more we get closer
1231
00:54:40.530 --> 00:54:42.210
to November 1, the more and more likely we are
1232
00:54:42.230 --> 00:54:44.690
that we will get an announcement before November 1 that
1233
00:54:44.730 --> 00:54:45.429
Nathan is staying.
1234
00:54:45.730 --> 00:54:45.949
Yeah.
1235
00:54:45.989 --> 00:54:48.929
He's not going. They did a good job 100% for
1236
00:54:49.110 --> 00:54:50.590
you to get what they got out of him. He
1237
00:54:50.610 --> 00:54:53.750
felt comfortable and He let a few things slip, and
1238
00:54:53.769 --> 00:54:55.489
I think that's what Panthers fans needed to hear.
1239
00:54:56.269 --> 00:54:59.110
And Gus... Gus was great. Gus was great. You can
1240
00:54:59.130 --> 00:55:01.050
go watch on YouTube, or I presume on Nine Now,
1241
00:55:01.570 --> 00:55:04.239
and watch particularly the end where Gus is grilling him
1242
00:55:04.260 --> 00:55:08.300
about Mary Fowler. It's very funny. Now, the last thing,
1243
00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:13.739
Fox rebranding as KO. We found out this last week, so...
1244
00:55:14.619 --> 00:55:16.920
Fox League? Is this going to be like the plaza? Like,
1245
00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:19.280
we're never really not going to call it Fox. You know,
1246
00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:21.260
we're not going to call it Westfield. It's the plaza.
1247
00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:23.280
We're just going to keep calling this Fox, not KO.
1248
00:55:23.280 --> 00:55:25.929
I'd say so. I mean, the KO, it's been around
1249
00:55:25.949 --> 00:55:27.389
for a few years now, and people that do have
1250
00:55:27.429 --> 00:55:31.670
KO talk about KO. But, yeah, the KO League, it's
1251
00:55:31.690 --> 00:55:34.309
going to be called. Like, it's weird, isn't it?
1252
00:55:34.389 --> 00:55:35.730
I mean, it needed to happen, but I still don't
1253
00:55:35.750 --> 00:55:37.269
think it goes far enough. We were talking about this
1254
00:55:37.309 --> 00:55:44.019
last week. Right now, the same companies producing Foxtel– Foxtel Now,
1255
00:55:44.380 --> 00:55:50.400
Foxtel Go, Binge, KO. Essentially with the same content here
1256
00:55:50.420 --> 00:55:54.300
and there, depending on where you're at. There's five pieces
1257
00:55:54.380 --> 00:55:57.610
of asset for the same thing. It did need to
1258
00:55:57.639 --> 00:55:59.469
come under one, but really this is only getting rid
1259
00:55:59.530 --> 00:56:02.409
of the channel names because if you have the set-top box,
1260
00:56:02.429 --> 00:56:04.710
it's still going to be called Foxtel. Unless there's a
1261
00:56:04.730 --> 00:56:06.489
big change, Foxtel Now is still going to be called
1262
00:56:06.510 --> 00:56:09.309
Foxtel Now. I think Foxtel Go is just becoming Foxtel
1263
00:56:09.329 --> 00:56:12.550
and that. We've still got chaos. Like it's still, I
1264
00:56:12.590 --> 00:56:13.510
feel like it should just be one thing.
1265
00:56:13.530 --> 00:56:14.530
It's a bit over the shop. It should just be
1266
00:56:14.550 --> 00:56:16.130
another one umbrella. Yes.
1267
00:56:16.170 --> 00:56:18.329
Including binge. Like why wouldn't you just make it all
1268
00:56:18.389 --> 00:56:20.250
one thing? And if you don't want sport, you just
1269
00:56:20.269 --> 00:56:21.969
don't add that to your package or whatever.
1270
00:56:21.989 --> 00:56:24.530
Yeah, because obviously DAZN bought Fox whenever it was in
1271
00:56:24.550 --> 00:56:27.650
the last year and that's all been implemented now. So
1272
00:56:28.329 --> 00:56:30.050
it's a wonder why they just didn't go with the
1273
00:56:30.070 --> 00:56:30.989
whole DAZN thing.
1274
00:56:31.030 --> 00:56:33.070
As much as I hate the name, just call it DAZN. Yeah.
1275
00:56:33.289 --> 00:56:34.110
The whole thing can just be called DAZN.
1276
00:56:34.130 --> 00:56:36.849
Because that's a worldwide brand. That's obviously Europe and America
1277
00:56:36.889 --> 00:56:39.210
and everything like that. So it's surprising why they just didn't.
1278
00:56:39.960 --> 00:56:41.980
They still got a little bit of Foxtel there, you know.
1279
00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:44.400
Well, I did see someone say as well that they'd
1280
00:56:44.440 --> 00:56:47.539
be paying for that Fox licensing. So eventually they're just
1281
00:56:47.559 --> 00:56:48.880
going to want to move on completely.
1282
00:56:48.980 --> 00:56:50.019
Oh, that's a good point.
1283
00:56:50.039 --> 00:56:52.289
Why not just do it now? There is big news
1284
00:56:52.369 --> 00:56:54.510
out of Fox today, I understand. Patrick Delaney might be
1285
00:56:54.570 --> 00:56:55.789
about to announce his departure.
1286
00:56:55.809 --> 00:56:56.369
Where's he going?
1287
00:56:56.389 --> 00:56:58.289
As CEO, a job in London or something.
1288
00:56:58.849 --> 00:56:59.070
Okay.
1289
00:56:59.090 --> 00:57:00.130
He's had that job for a long time.
1290
00:57:00.150 --> 00:57:01.469
I did what I hate other people doing and I
1291
00:57:01.530 --> 00:57:03.670
only read the headlines, so I can't tell you about
1292
00:57:03.690 --> 00:57:06.429
the story. But I did see that floating around today.
1293
00:57:07.199 --> 00:57:09.719
All right, now there are some other finals happening this weekend, Nathan.
1294
00:57:09.760 --> 00:57:12.420
Let's have a look at those. Kicks off Friday night.
1295
00:57:13.500 --> 00:57:18.360
South's up against Newcastle at Allianz Stadium, home of the Rabbitohs.
1296
00:57:19.389 --> 00:57:20.130
So weird, isn't it?
1297
00:57:20.119 --> 00:57:24.550
This is an elimination match. Loser is gone. Look, most
1298
00:57:24.590 --> 00:57:27.590
people thinking South will have too much here. The Knights, obviously,
1299
00:57:27.690 --> 00:57:31.369
injury and suspension hit. I am going the Rabbits by 14.
1300
00:57:31.369 --> 00:57:33.199
I think they will just have too much, and my
1301
00:57:33.219 --> 00:57:34.340
man Latrell ready.
1302
00:57:34.219 --> 00:57:36.500
To catch fire. What's he going to do?
1303
00:57:37.079 --> 00:57:39.000
He's going to fire up in the final series. Watch
1304
00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:39.300
him go.
1305
00:57:39.320 --> 00:57:41.710
Hopefully he doesn't get suspended. He almost got suspended for
1306
00:57:41.730 --> 00:57:45.369
this game with that hit the other day. Poor little youngster.
1307
00:57:45.590 --> 00:57:48.610
Was very close to getting a bit high there.
1308
00:57:48.670 --> 00:57:50.829
Welcome to first grade.
1309
00:57:50.869 --> 00:57:53.449
Look, I think the Rabideaus, yeah, I think they're definitely
1310
00:57:53.469 --> 00:57:56.309
the favourites for a reason. They've been going pretty well
1311
00:57:56.349 --> 00:58:00.260
of late. Not perfect by any means, but, you know,
1312
00:58:00.440 --> 00:58:02.000
they'll put up a fight. Like we said last week,
1313
00:58:02.179 --> 00:58:05.280
we always envision Souths to– make it through at least
1314
00:58:05.300 --> 00:58:07.380
the first week. You've got them in a prelim choice,
1315
00:58:07.400 --> 00:58:09.960
so let's see how far they can go. But, yeah,
1316
00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:12.159
bunnies for me as well by 20. All right.
1317
00:58:12.380 --> 00:58:15.820
Oh, okay. Saturday afternoon, Mount Smart Stadium is a sellout
1318
00:58:15.860 --> 00:58:20.920
for the Warriors up against the Dolphins, 4.05 p.m. Australian time.
1319
00:58:21.659 --> 00:58:22.739
What do we think about this one?
1320
00:58:23.360 --> 00:58:25.239
So this will be sort of a night game for
1321
00:58:25.260 --> 00:58:25.920
the Warriors, right?
1322
00:58:25.980 --> 00:58:26.719
Yeah, 6 o'clock.
1323
00:58:26.719 --> 00:58:30.449
6 o'clock game. Look, I think the Warriors– are favourites
1324
00:58:30.469 --> 00:58:32.510
for this one and deservingly so. I think this is
1325
00:58:32.530 --> 00:58:34.889
the first time we'll be seeing the Dolphins playing finals
1326
00:58:34.909 --> 00:58:38.199
football and I think they'll put up a fight, but
1327
00:58:38.440 --> 00:58:40.420
it'll be a high-scoring game, I know that, because the
1328
00:58:40.440 --> 00:58:43.519
Warriors can't defend for their lives and the Dolphins love
1329
00:58:43.539 --> 00:58:46.969
to score points. So expect a high-scoring game with the
1330
00:58:46.989 --> 00:58:48.010
Warriors getting up for me.
1331
00:58:48.329 --> 00:58:50.070
Upset for me, Dolphins by six.
1332
00:58:50.130 --> 00:58:50.530
Really?
1333
00:58:50.889 --> 00:58:52.289
Dolphins by six. Wow.
1334
00:58:52.849 --> 00:58:55.929
That would be a huge upset for the Warriors fans.
1335
00:58:55.949 --> 00:58:57.409
I was on the Warriors bus for so long, I
1336
00:58:57.670 --> 00:59:01.340
am off it. All right, Sharks-Cowboys is the other elimination
1337
00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:05.809
game at Allianz Stadium. The Sutherland Shuttle, apparently, the buses
1338
00:59:05.849 --> 00:59:09.429
making their way from Shark Park to Allianz.
1339
00:59:09.449 --> 00:59:09.909
It's not that far.
1340
00:59:10.269 --> 00:59:10.389
One.
1341
00:59:10.969 --> 00:59:13.969
No, it's not. But I do worry about the crowd.
1342
00:59:14.010 --> 00:59:17.989
But look, yep, 7.50pm. The Cowboys won't bring many. The
1343
00:59:18.070 --> 00:59:20.699
Cowboys pretty disappointing against Canberra last week. They really kind
1344
00:59:20.739 --> 00:59:23.380
of limped their way into the eight. But the Sharks
1345
00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:26.980
have been in awful form. Do get Trindle back. I
1346
00:59:27.000 --> 00:59:29.090
am going to go to the Sharks. But this is,
1347
00:59:29.190 --> 00:59:31.360
I'm very, I'm not very confident. I mean, it's like,
1348
00:59:31.579 --> 00:59:35.360
you know, who's the best, worst team.
1349
00:59:35.539 --> 00:59:37.820
I guess. Yeah, I think the Sharks as well. I
1350
00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:40.800
think they just have that little bit more experience in
1351
00:59:40.860 --> 00:59:43.030
finals footy that they always seem to at least get
1352
00:59:43.070 --> 00:59:46.050
to week two or three. So I expect them to win,
1353
00:59:46.110 --> 00:59:48.250
but it could be a toss of the coin job.
1354
00:59:48.329 --> 00:59:50.949
I mean, the Cowboys, yeah, they haven't been good, but,
1355
00:59:51.369 --> 00:59:53.730
you know, they could surprise people. Who knows? It's not
1356
00:59:53.789 --> 00:59:56.719
at Cronulla. So it's sort of, I wouldn't say it's
1357
00:59:56.760 --> 00:59:59.179
neutral territory, but. you know, a little bit more neutral
1358
00:59:59.199 --> 01:00:01.179
territory than it could have been at Shark Park where
1359
01:00:01.199 --> 01:00:02.260
they probably would have romped at home.
1360
01:00:02.480 --> 01:00:02.659
Yeah.
1361
01:00:02.900 --> 01:00:03.119
All right.
1362
01:00:03.139 --> 01:00:05.699
Well, we're both tipping the sharks in that one.
1363
01:00:06.300 --> 01:00:06.519
All right.
1364
01:00:06.539 --> 01:00:10.699
Time for Rugby League recommendations, Nathan, as always. And look,
1365
01:00:10.719 --> 01:00:12.559
you know what my recommendation is this week, Nathan? Go
1366
01:00:12.599 --> 01:00:17.300
for it. It's don't throw away things, right, that are
1367
01:00:17.940 --> 01:00:21.340
just anything Panthers related, right? Collectible things? Well, you know
1368
01:00:21.360 --> 01:00:23.179
what I saw someone throw in the bin the other day? What?
1369
01:00:23.360 --> 01:00:24.199
Their season ticket.
1370
01:00:25.119 --> 01:00:28.340
Like they left, they finished ComBank.
1371
01:00:28.360 --> 01:00:30.110
They were done for the year. Why wouldn't I throw
1372
01:00:30.119 --> 01:00:31.329
that away?
1373
01:00:31.650 --> 01:00:32.880
Just on the bins on the way out.
1374
01:00:32.889 --> 01:00:34.829
Yeah, just on the bins on the way out. He
1375
01:00:34.889 --> 01:00:37.730
told his kids, he said, we're done. And I'm like, no, mate.
1376
01:00:37.789 --> 01:00:40.610
I have all of my season tickets. In the lanyard
1377
01:00:40.650 --> 01:00:43.260
as well? No, I've taken them out of the lanyard.
1378
01:00:43.340 --> 01:00:45.119
No, but like this father.
1379
01:00:45.260 --> 01:00:47.360
He threw the lanyard away. Yeah, got rid of that.
1380
01:00:47.900 --> 01:00:50.059
And I'm just like, you know, and look, maybe not
1381
01:00:50.079 --> 01:00:53.469
everyone has the room, but Nathan, I keep everything. I
1382
01:00:53.510 --> 01:00:57.849
have menus from the Merv Cartwright medal. I have, you know,
1383
01:00:57.869 --> 01:00:59.070
the other day I was looking through some of my
1384
01:00:59.090 --> 01:01:03.179
stuff and I found my unopened, you know, 2018 membership
1385
01:01:03.199 --> 01:01:05.599
pack that I'd obviously taken the ticket out, but the
1386
01:01:05.639 --> 01:01:06.940
rest of it's still there with a scarf. Do you
1387
01:01:07.000 --> 01:01:10.159
keep it sealed? Yeah, it's all still sealed. Like I
1388
01:01:10.199 --> 01:01:13.380
keep everything. And my thing to you is keep everything
1389
01:01:13.679 --> 01:01:16.360
because one day when Penrith aren't going so well and whatnot,
1390
01:01:16.380 --> 01:01:17.639
you're going to be able to look back on these
1391
01:01:17.699 --> 01:01:21.960
great memories. So find a room in your house or
1392
01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:24.929
a cupboard that, or a garage or a shed or
1393
01:01:24.949 --> 01:01:28.030
a storage area, anything you can find and keep your stuff. Yeah.
1394
01:01:28.070 --> 01:01:30.889
Well, I'm a keeper Troy. I've got all the newspapers
1395
01:01:30.969 --> 01:01:33.869
from the last five or six years, like whether it's
1396
01:01:33.929 --> 01:01:37.579
telly Herald or us, like always keep those grand final
1397
01:01:37.619 --> 01:01:40.719
additions and, you know, post grand final additions. I think
1398
01:01:40.739 --> 01:01:41.820
they're pretty cool to have.
1399
01:01:41.880 --> 01:01:42.969
And, A little bit.
1400
01:01:42.989 --> 01:01:44.989
Probably not as much as you. Like the menus at
1401
01:01:45.050 --> 01:01:47.030
the Murph Cartwright Metals are a bit of a stretch.
1402
01:01:47.349 --> 01:01:49.690
Don't take those with me. But some of the other
1403
01:01:49.730 --> 01:01:52.019
cool things I certainly have. I mean, they're probably worth
1404
01:01:52.099 --> 01:01:53.199
nothing and they never will be.
1405
01:01:53.219 --> 01:01:56.380
Well, no, there's not like there's a market for Penrith merchandise.
1406
01:01:56.480 --> 01:01:58.360
No, I don't think so.
1407
01:01:58.840 --> 01:02:00.019
But, you know, it's nice to have.
1408
01:02:00.039 --> 01:02:01.400
It's nice to have for yourself, yes.
1409
01:02:01.420 --> 01:02:02.659
All right, your rugby league recommendation.
1410
01:02:02.679 --> 01:02:05.570
My recommendation is obviously we're doing a podcast today, Troy,
1411
01:02:05.610 --> 01:02:08.170
so I'm going to talk about some podcasts that I
1412
01:02:08.210 --> 01:02:11.170
listen to that are footy related. Obviously, I recommend this
1413
01:02:11.289 --> 01:02:15.630
one if you're not. Please subscribe and send us an
1414
01:02:15.690 --> 01:02:18.949
email or rate us or whatever. That'll be pretty cool.
1415
01:02:18.969 --> 01:02:20.849
But some of the other ones that I enjoy, I
1416
01:02:21.769 --> 01:02:25.769
love the Triple M NRL footy podcast that they put out.
1417
01:02:26.070 --> 01:02:28.050
Not a massive fan of Charlie White. I think that's
1418
01:02:28.070 --> 01:02:28.769
well known out there.
1419
01:02:28.789 --> 01:02:30.289
I know you're giving him the trapdoor.
1420
01:02:30.309 --> 01:02:32.309
Trapdoor award. I think he's very overexposed.
1421
01:02:32.329 --> 01:02:34.150
I like Charlie. If you're listening, Charlie, I like you.
1422
01:02:34.170 --> 01:02:37.210
Very overexposed. Probably born with a silver spoon in his mouth.
1423
01:02:37.230 --> 01:02:41.090
Loves his eastern suburbs. But apart from him, I pretty
1424
01:02:41.130 --> 01:02:43.969
much enjoy all the other episodes. I even listen to
1425
01:02:44.050 --> 01:02:50.130
the Saturday and Sunday shows on repeat where Charlie's not involved, thankfully. Sorry, Charlie,
1426
01:02:50.389 --> 01:02:51.809
you never give me a job at Triple M after this.
1427
01:02:51.829 --> 01:02:53.670
He's producing hard there in the background, though, if you
1428
01:02:53.690 --> 01:02:54.570
watch the YouTube video.
1429
01:02:54.730 --> 01:02:56.889
Yeah, well, no, I don't watch the YouTube videos. I
1430
01:02:57.159 --> 01:02:59.619
probably get angry if I had to watch that. So
1431
01:02:59.639 --> 01:03:04.019
they're good. They're daily. Yeah, really good insights into Rugby
1432
01:03:04.059 --> 01:03:05.849
League and have some good things on them. The other
1433
01:03:05.889 --> 01:03:07.710
one I've listened to for a very, very long time
1434
01:03:07.750 --> 01:03:10.349
is the Sportsbet podcast with Dan Ganane and Joel Cain.
1435
01:03:11.110 --> 01:03:13.409
They also have another fellow on there as well that's
1436
01:03:13.469 --> 01:03:17.510
from Sportsbet that contributes. Dan Ganane's a legend. Love him.
1437
01:03:17.570 --> 01:03:20.190
Usually agree with a lot of the things he says. Yes,
1438
01:03:20.230 --> 01:03:22.989
it is a betting podcast, but It's, they just talk
1439
01:03:23.010 --> 01:03:24.789
about odds and things like that. A lot of it
1440
01:03:24.849 --> 01:03:28.599
is just general footy chat. And the last one, which also, um,
1441
01:03:28.920 --> 01:03:30.900
I come and go every couple of years, depending if
1442
01:03:30.940 --> 01:03:32.500
I like this guy or not, but it's six tackles
1443
01:03:32.519 --> 01:03:36.519
with Gus. Uh, I've, I'm, I'm a listener again this year. Um,
1444
01:03:36.699 --> 01:03:40.980
that's always pretty. fun to hear Gus's thoughts and insights.
1445
01:03:41.019 --> 01:03:43.739
You know, we have our opinions on Gus a lot, Troy,
1446
01:03:43.780 --> 01:03:47.349
whether we, sometimes we don't necessarily agree with everything he says,
1447
01:03:47.429 --> 01:03:50.590
but he does, he's an entertaining character and you do
1448
01:03:50.630 --> 01:03:53.190
listen when he, when he says something. So six tackles
1449
01:03:53.230 --> 01:03:55.969
with Gus, sports bet, triple M. And of course our
1450
01:03:55.989 --> 01:03:57.929
podcast as well would be my recommendations.
1451
01:03:58.150 --> 01:03:58.409
All right.
1452
01:03:58.429 --> 01:04:00.989
And does Matt Thompson still host six tackles with Gus?
1453
01:04:01.179 --> 01:04:04.619
Unfortunately. Yes, he does. Like Matt, you're a good man.
1454
01:04:04.659 --> 01:04:08.510
You were Penrith guy. Your commentary is pretty good. But
1455
01:04:08.550 --> 01:04:11.469
I much prefer James Bracey, I must admit. He's just
1456
01:04:11.489 --> 01:04:12.090
the host with the most.
1457
01:04:12.110 --> 01:04:13.590
You're not going to be working at Nine or Triple
1458
01:04:13.679 --> 01:04:14.219
M any time soon.
1459
01:04:14.239 --> 01:04:17.780
Or how much pool does Matt Thompson have? He's all right.
1460
01:04:17.800 --> 01:04:20.679
He's good. I don't know. Maybe you just get over people.
1461
01:04:21.099 --> 01:04:23.199
People are probably over us. They might want new hosts
1462
01:04:23.239 --> 01:04:25.360
of Tensions Running High next year because they're probably over
1463
01:04:25.440 --> 01:04:26.400
our voices too.
1464
01:04:26.920 --> 01:04:27.760
Emily's waiting.
1465
01:04:28.480 --> 01:04:28.900
She is.
1466
01:04:28.940 --> 01:04:29.539
She's waiting.
1467
01:04:29.579 --> 01:04:30.239
She's hanging in there.
1468
01:04:31.489 --> 01:04:33.530
All right, just wanted to note as well before we go,
1469
01:04:33.550 --> 01:04:35.690
New South Wales Cup and Jersey Flag, of course, Panthers
1470
01:04:35.710 --> 01:04:39.690
continuing on. So in the Jersey Flag this week, it
1471
01:04:39.710 --> 01:04:44.010
is a top-of-the-table battle. Dragons-Panthers at Leichhardt Oval, 3 o'clock p.m.
1472
01:04:44.989 --> 01:04:47.309
in the Jersey Flag. And in the New South Wales Cup,
1473
01:04:47.349 --> 01:04:48.989
that game follows it. So you can go out and
1474
01:04:49.070 --> 01:04:54.070
watch both grades back-to-back. Because in the New South Wales Cup,
1475
01:04:54.090 --> 01:04:57.550
it's Panthers-Newcastle. So Penrith finish first, Newcastle third, 5.15 p.m.
1476
01:04:59.250 --> 01:05:02.909
at Leichhardt Oval. So go and check that out. And
1477
01:05:03.289 --> 01:05:08.070
in the women's premiership, Panthers play Mounties, also at Leichhardt Oval.
1478
01:05:08.110 --> 01:05:10.349
So you could just hang out all night. Maybe you
1479
01:05:10.369 --> 01:05:15.610
can camp there. Sunday morning, 11am, Panthers play Mounties. So
1480
01:05:16.050 --> 01:05:18.329
we're going for four finals wins this weekend.
1481
01:05:18.349 --> 01:05:19.630
How many do you think we're going to win across
1482
01:05:19.650 --> 01:05:21.730
the four, Troy? I'm going two out of four, Troy.
1483
01:05:21.789 --> 01:05:23.469
I'm going three out of four. Really? I don't know
1484
01:05:23.489 --> 01:05:24.730
which one we're going to drop, but I'm three out
1485
01:05:24.750 --> 01:05:24.909
of four.
1486
01:05:24.929 --> 01:05:26.429
I think we'll drop the women's game.
1487
01:05:26.949 --> 01:05:27.260
Okay.
1488
01:05:27.860 --> 01:05:31.719
And probably the flag game. I know that's negative, isn't it?
1489
01:05:31.719 --> 01:05:34.010
I should say we're all going to win, but you've.
1490
01:05:33.550 --> 01:05:38.510
Got to make it interesting. Yeah, so in the women's game, Mounties, yeah,
1491
01:05:38.550 --> 01:05:39.590
third versus fourth.
1492
01:05:39.670 --> 01:05:42.369
And Panthers lost last week against South, so they've done
1493
01:05:42.409 --> 01:05:43.510
well to get this far, I guess.
1494
01:05:43.550 --> 01:05:46.510
Yeah, okay. Both pretty even, Panthers and Mounties, through the year.
1495
01:05:46.530 --> 01:05:50.670
Both had seven wins, but Panthers just finished on top
1496
01:05:50.710 --> 01:05:52.849
of them. But look, let's hope we're talking. Look, let's
1497
01:05:52.869 --> 01:05:54.829
hope the NRL side has a break next week and
1498
01:05:54.849 --> 01:05:56.809
we can just talk. All the great stuff at the
1499
01:05:56.829 --> 01:05:57.369
lower grades.
1500
01:05:57.570 --> 01:05:58.269
We can relax.
1501
01:05:58.289 --> 01:06:00.630
We're not buying tickets next week. In grey out as
1502
01:06:00.670 --> 01:06:02.409
many bays as you like at Combank next week.
1503
01:06:02.619 --> 01:06:05.719
So confirmation. So if we win this weekend, Troy, Penrith
1504
01:06:05.739 --> 01:06:07.860
have the week off. They will play their home final
1505
01:06:07.900 --> 01:06:09.679
at a core stadium. I got that confirmed today.
1506
01:06:09.699 --> 01:06:10.039
So Combank.
1507
01:06:10.440 --> 01:06:11.679
No Combank.
1508
01:06:11.719 --> 01:06:13.150
We don't have to worry about Combank again.
1509
01:06:13.190 --> 01:06:14.309
This is our last visit. Thank God.
1510
01:06:14.610 --> 01:06:17.030
This is our last visit to Combank Stadium. Potentially. As
1511
01:06:17.070 --> 01:06:19.869
a home team. We might go and watch them beat
1512
01:06:19.889 --> 01:06:23.170
the Eels or something next year. But, yeah, this is it.
1513
01:06:23.190 --> 01:06:24.289
This is the end of the road.
1514
01:06:24.349 --> 01:06:26.190
It's good. I don't know what happens if we lose
1515
01:06:26.230 --> 01:06:27.510
this week and play week two.
1516
01:06:27.590 --> 01:06:28.550
Oh, then we may, yeah.
1517
01:06:28.619 --> 01:06:30.920
We may play there again. Maybe they'll open those bays up.
1518
01:06:31.260 --> 01:06:34.340
Maybe they'll go down to the backlash that, you know.
1519
01:06:34.400 --> 01:06:36.420
Yeah, yeah. Well, okay. Well, we'll see what happens there.
1520
01:06:36.440 --> 01:06:37.920
But I'm happy with the course dating because I'm a
1521
01:06:37.980 --> 01:06:40.530
member there, so I can sort out my tickets much easier.
1522
01:06:41.010 --> 01:06:41.849
Oh, well, that's good, isn't it?
1523
01:06:41.869 --> 01:06:44.769
But then you talk about nosebleed. I'm in level four. Oh, man.
1524
01:06:45.250 --> 01:06:47.679
Level four. But I've seen some good wins in level four. Look,
1525
01:06:47.699 --> 01:06:49.539
that is it for Tensions Running High this week. New
1526
01:06:49.579 --> 01:06:53.340
episodes out every Wednesday. Visit westernweekender.com.au. Follow us on all
1527
01:06:53.380 --> 01:06:55.780
the socials. Check out the print edition. Extra time's out
1528
01:06:55.820 --> 01:06:58.139
this week. Who have you talked to in extra time, Nathan?
1529
01:06:58.179 --> 01:07:00.280
Yeah, we've got a few interviews this week. We've got
1530
01:07:00.320 --> 01:07:03.880
Luke Garner, obviously back from his injuries. We've got Tom
1531
01:07:03.940 --> 01:07:06.239
Jenkins and Emily Chatz with Isaac Tungle.
1532
01:07:06.679 --> 01:07:09.519
Excellent. We've also got Langone League and Mars Panther as well.
1533
01:07:09.840 --> 01:07:11.699
Make sure you download the Western Weekend app on the
1534
01:07:11.739 --> 01:07:13.820
Google Play and Apple App Stores.
1535
01:07:14.239 --> 01:07:14.719
I'm Troy Dodds.
1536
01:07:14.780 --> 01:07:16.559
Nathan, thanks for joining me. Thanks, Troy. And thanks to
1537
01:07:16.599 --> 01:07:18.960
Penrith City Automotive for their sponsorship too. We will see
1538
01:07:18.980 --> 01:07:21.760
you next time on Tensions Running High. Go the Panthers.