Tension's Running High E91 - We talk Nathan Cleary, because everyone else is

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Hello everyone and welcome to Tensions Running High, a Penrith
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Panthers podcast presented by the Western Weekender. This is episode 91.
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I'm Troy Dodds, joined by Nathan Taylor. Hello Nathan.
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Hello Troy.
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On the agenda today, the race for the minor premiership.
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Panthers pay tribute to John Barriger, more Nathan Cleary scuttlebutt
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and plenty more. And see, Nathan, we just do things
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like it's live here. Someone else would have redone that intro.
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Well, I think we've redone intros before.
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No, I can't imagine that. Hey, let's begin the show
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and let's kick off with Nathan Cleary because this... is
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the story that will not go away. It obviously gets
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a lot of clicks, I'm guessing, and a lot of attention,
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and that is about Nathan Cleary's future. Another bunch of
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stories this week that told us nothing. I noticed there
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was one, Dean Ritchie, he really nailed down on that
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Nathan Cleary is going to November 1. Now we saw,
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I think there was a news.com.au piece about Nathan, this
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big offer from P & G that everyone picked up on.
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It's everywhere, but Can we agree, just to kick off
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this conversation, none of these journalists writing stuff, nor you
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and I, know what Nathan Cleary is doing, are speaking
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to Nathan Cleary, or have any indication beyond speculation about
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Nathan staying or going.
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Well, yeah, I mean, that is true. It's only Nathan
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and probably... Maybe Mary and maybe even Ivan might know
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exactly where his head is at at the moment.
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Like, with all due respect, Dean Ritchie does not have
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any additional inside information that Nathan's definitely going to know.
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You wouldn't think so. Obviously, a lot of these Metro
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bigger journos are in constant contact with managers and things
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like that. So, obviously, Nathan Cleary has a manager. I
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don't know if Dean is close with Nathan Cleary's manager,
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and that's sort of the indication he's hearing from him,
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or maybe other managers are talking to Dean about stuff.
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That's the only plausible thing that I can think of.
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That's where some of that is coming from. But ultimately,
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at the end of the day, Nathan knows, Ivan knows,
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Becky's mum probably knows, and Mary knows. I doubt anyone
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else knows what he's thinking about at this point in time.
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I did love one of the stories this week, as I,
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of course, revealed a couple of weeks ago, that despite
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what people were saying, Nathan has sat down with the club.
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There is negotiations in some way or shape or form.
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Dean Ritchie's thrown in that he's been negotiating since February
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or something. I thought, hang on, I thought Nathan wasn't
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talking to anyone.
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Yeah.
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Now we're suddenly talking, or talking, not necessarily negotiating, but
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talking since February or last February. Look, it's all a
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bit silly. Nathan clearly is not going to Papua New Guinea.
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Can I just make that declaration right now? I don't
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believe in any way whatsoever he's going to Papua New Guinea.
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Do you think it's even a chance?
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Oh, look, I wouldn't rule anything out because crazy things
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happen in sport all the time. You expect a player
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to be with your club for life and they end
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up taking a bigger offer or a new opportunity and
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they sell it that way. Look, Gus said on 100%
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Footy the other night that he doesn't think that Nathan
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would go to Papua New Guinea and that he should
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stay at Penrith for the rest of his career.
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I've never met Nathan Cleary.
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But that was actually comforting to hear from Gus because
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I think a lot of rugby league people think that
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Nathan Cleary should stay at Penrith. There's a lot of
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journos that would love to see him go because it's
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a great storyline. There's people that are really pushing that
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P & G narrative to link up with Jerome again
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and to earn the big cash and be a hero
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over there. But rugby league people, like former players, they
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all think he should stay right where he is.
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I will say this too, and I've said it before
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on this podcast. I've written it. There is an overestimation
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and an obsession that he'll just chase money. And I
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don't know... I understand maybe that all of us who
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are sitting here living on an annual wage of far
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less than Nathan Cleary might be like, geez, imagine being
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handed all this tax-free money. I don't think that money
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is Nathan Cleary's primary motivation. As we've said before, he's
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not the first person in his family to have a
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fairly healthy bank balance. So he doesn't feel that weight
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of responsibility to be helping wider family members and whatever
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that some players who are fortunate enough to be the
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first in their family to earn this kind of money do.
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His partner earns the same, if not more than him.
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I don't think money, and he's still going to earn
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big money in Penrith and Australia and all those sort
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of endorsements he has. I don't think that... It's the
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factor that everyone thinks it is. I just don't think
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it's the main driving factor for him.
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But Penrith can't lowball him either.
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No, we won't.
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I know we won't, but obviously with salary cap constraints
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and we've seen other players have to move on because
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they can't even make them an offer because it's not
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going to be a fair one. Obviously, they're not going
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to do that with Nathan, but they've got to try
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and blow him away as well. While they can't get
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to PNG levels in terms of tax-free stuff, If they
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can try and get him close to being the first
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$ 2 million guy, that would be pretty significant, I think,
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in his decision-making.
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You know what they can do? They can show him
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the fact that here in Penrith there's no fences around,
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there's no security to have to.
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Get the bullies.
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No fights in stadiums. No fights in stadiums. He can
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go to a concert if he wants to. He can
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go for a nice river walk, do whatever he wants.
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No, that's true.
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And you know another thing, Troy, and I think a
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lot of these rumours and Penrith fans are getting a
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bit nervous... It's because the way Nathan Cleary is speaking,
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and Nathan's done several interviews here and there with big
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TV people and whatnot. And after the Brad Fittler medal
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the other night, he spoke to some journalists. He's just
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not saying the right things that Penrith fans want to
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hear in terms of, I talk to a lot of players.
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Nathan Cleary, I haven't spoken to at all this year
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because Penrith don't put him up. But when you ask them,
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do you want to stay here and whatnot, that's the
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first thing they say. Yes, my preference is to stay
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at Penrith. You're not getting that from Nathan. He's like, oh,
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I haven't made up my mind yet. It's a big decision.
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It's this and that. Just give us something to indicate
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that you're happy here and that you might want to
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stay here. What do you think about that?
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I actually think that Nathan is... And I wrote this
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a few weeks ago. I still think Nathan is just
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playing everyone for breaking.
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But why would he do that? He's not that sort
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of guy.
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Because there is a plan. In my opinion, this deal
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is all but done. There is a plan about how
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it's going to get announced and how it's going to
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be done. I'm guessing that might have a bit to
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do with Jet.
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Who knows?
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Who knows? But I just think that it's far more
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along than Nathan suggests. And a lot of the chat
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is just, a lot of the stuff he says is
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just deflection. And when I say deflection, I think you
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really need to listen to the words. The other day,
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I think it was something like, oh, look, it just
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hasn't been on my mind. You know, like, that is
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not a, oh, yeah, so I'm waiting till November 1.
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That's just, let me say this, because you can't ask
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me to follow up because I'm just told I'm not
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even thinking about it. And I just think that there's
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just a planned deflection in that. And for a few reasons.
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I think, number one, if he says his preference is
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to stay at Penrith, I think then the story just
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becomes that. Number two, if he says he's going to
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the open market, it becomes that. So he's better to
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just say, no, you know, haven't thought about it.
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But then that just keeps the rumors going and he keeps.
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Him in the news.
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Does he want that?
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I reckon they don't mind. I've got a feeling this
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particular game, given that they are two steps ahead of
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everyone else, they don't mind playing.
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But do you think there's people at Penrith that aren't
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sure what he's going to do? They don't know what
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he's going to do.
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I speak to people at Penrith who don't know about
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things until the day they're getting announced. Like, for example,
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a couple of very high-ranking officials within the club were
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told about Ivan Cleary's decision about an hour before the
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press conference. In fact, I think it may have even broken...
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On the Telegraph website before they knew. So they keep
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a very tight house. So I don't question that there
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would be only a handful of people that know what's
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going on. But I have a suspicion that the deal
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is a lot further along than people think.
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Well, let's break it down. The board would have an indication?
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At least the chairman.
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The chairman would have an indication. You'd think, obviously, Spud
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would have an indication because he and Matt Cameron are
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doing the.
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And that could well be the... And Ivan, Peter Wallace.
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Of course. Peter Wallace is the new coach. Maybe Peter Wallace,
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but certainly Ivan. And I don't know where they're at
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with that retention committee. I mean, is Ivan coming off
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that committee now and Peter Wallace goes on?
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I believe Ivan, he's sticking through it, I think.
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Yeah, okay. And that's fair enough. But, yeah, there'll be
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some changes there. But, yes, it would be half a
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dozen people and obviously his management. I will say this
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for you. Nathan has the same management as a bunch
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of players that have re-signed. um already so you're tom
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jenkins mitch kenny so there is a healthy relationship between
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nathan's management and panthers i think that's a good sign
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um and i just think that with all due respect
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to someone like say paul alamotti isaiah papali who have
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we formally announced no i don't know if we're signing
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off on those deals if we still have doubts over
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what we have to pay nathan so I feel like
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the money element may be here or there be pretty
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much sorted. Now, of course, we're saying all this from
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a Penrith perspective. Maybe Nathan does want to go to
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November 1 and go, heck, I want to see what
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the deal is. I mean, Nathan, I'll make a shock
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revelation here. You know, probably eight years ago, I had
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a meeting with the Penrith Press. Oh, yes, yes.
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Yes.
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Where was this meeting at?
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It was at News Corp headquarters. Oh, in the city? Yeah,
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that's more than eight years ago. Eleven years ago.
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Yeah.
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Went to the city.
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Eleven years ago, yes.
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Undercover.
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Undercover. Now, was I ever going to go to the
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Penrith Press? I'm going to be honest with you.
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No.
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I was never going to go to the Penrith Press.
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I didn't want to play against the weekend. It just
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like Nathan doesn't want to play. But do you want
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to listen to it? Do you want to like, just
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feel that? Oh yeah.
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Okay.
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This is what you want to put in front of me.
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I think you do.
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Oh, well, I guess, I guess in your case, you didn't,
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you weren't constrained to a November one deadline. You could
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just do whatever you wanted to do, I guess. But, um,
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you know, and you know, I guess there's a lot
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more pressure for, for Nathan, you know, it's, it's just
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going to, it'll set the cat amongst the pigeons. As
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soon as that November rolls around and they haven't announced something,
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that's going to get a lot of Penrith fans worried.
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They weren't offering me any tax-free dollars either down there
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at New School.
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No free movie tickets either?
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I don't reckon there was any free movie tickets. So, no,
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it would have been an outrage.
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And you wouldn't have a paper to write for anymore either.
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I wouldn't. That's 100% true. You're writing for digital. Well, yeah,
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when I came back, who knows what I might have
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come up with. All right, well, look, can we just
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finalise it by saying, though, to all Penrith fans out there, don't,
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Don't even open the story, but if you read the story,
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just take everything you're reading about Nathan Cleary at the
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moment with a grain of salt.
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Even this conversation?
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Even this conversation, because we don't actually know. The only
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thing I know that I think other people are trying
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to say isn't happening is that there has been talks.
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I'm not saying that he's definitely staying or any of that,
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but I'm saying there has been talks to suggest that
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Penrith hasn't had a level of negotiations with their best player.
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And they're just going to be like, oh, we'll just
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wait until Nathan's ready. That's incorrect.
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And I think that narrative is changing. You're starting to
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see a couple of stories out there that are saying
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he's in discussions.
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Maybe they've realized, hang on, I don't think this is true. Yeah.
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But anyway, just take it with a grain of salt, folks.
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Don't lose your minds over it because that's what probably
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they want you to do is keep clicking. But there's
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no new news. And I reckon the first you'll hear it,
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Because of the way the Ivan thing happened in particular,
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it'll be the day it gets announced.
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All right, so just quickly, I know we have to
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move on to the next segment, but when's your prediction
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when this could get announced? Say he is staying. Are
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we thinking it's not going to happen now between now
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and the grand final? We're thinking in that period between
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grand final, November 1, before World Cup starts.
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When would I like it to get announced? You know
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what I'd love it to get announced? Merv Cartwright medal night.
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A shock announcement in front of loyal sponsors. who obviously
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contribute significantly to the club. When do I think it'll
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get announced? You know what? It depends. Is the Jet
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element a factor? Like, do they want to come and
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unveil this Cleary trio?
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It would be pretty cool.
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And if that's the case, we're talking, like, late. Like,
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we may be talking after World Cup because, you know,
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when does the Warriors say, all right, Jet, your time's done? Like,
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they're paying him, I think, till October 31 or whatever.
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So I don't know if they care that he's in
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a Penrith polo on the 8th of October. I don't know.
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You wouldn't think so.
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So I'm just saying I think there's some logistics around it.
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But when would they be ready to announce it? Hey,
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I reckon they're ready to announce it next week.
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I reckon we've got a sneaky announcement. If we win
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finals week one, we have that two weeks off.
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Yep.
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There could be some announcements around that time. Maybe a Yowie.
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They could do a Yowie Nathan announcement.
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Yeah, they could. I wouldn't be surprised if we see
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an Isaiah Yeo announcement. Very soon.
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Oh, even before in the next couple of weeks.
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Yeah, I reckon. I reckon that we might see that very,
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very soon. All right, well, let's move on. Panthers-Tigers this
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Sunday afternoon. And I'll tell you what, the betting agencies
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were fooled. Some fans were fooled. But in the end,
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the Penrith Panthers have named a full-strength team. Only Isaac
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Tungo is out. For this game against the West Tigers
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on Sunday afternoon, a game that many thought the Panthers
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may rest players because at the end of the day,
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a home final is secured, but they're not. They've named everyone.
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In fact, we've also got Mitch Kenny back and Isaiah Yeo,
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a chance of playing. I think he's got a fitness test,
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a strength test at some point this week. Now, I'll
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give you my theories around why Penrith aren't resting. Not
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my theories, the theories. Because I reckon there's about five theories,
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and they probably all have a little bit of this
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and a little bit of that. Theory number one, this
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is the most worrying theory. Ivan's not happy with where
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we're at and feels that we need another game under
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our belts and in the legs. Theory two, Ivan's actually
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super happy and the squad is so on and actually
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so fit with very little niggles that we're good to
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go here. We're good to play. Theory three, we want
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the minor premiership. We've actually decided, now you know what,
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we want to finish first. Theory four, I've heard this
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one going around, we want to play the Roosters in
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week one. And to play the Roosters, you've got to
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probably finish first. Because the Roosters, who are mass resting,
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are going to finish fourth, you would think, unless somehow
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the Rabideaus drop that on Friday night. Theory five, still
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playing tactics here, and we're probably only going to play
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20 minutes with that team. And then on comes the
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likes of... of Blaise Talangi, maybe Kalani Going gets a
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run for Moses or something like that. We can still
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only use four bench players, of course, but, you know,
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maybe those benchies get a lot more of a run.
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So any of those theories stick.
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Out to you? You sounded like Mikko from Panther Army
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then when you were listing your theory of where is
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it won that Penrith are going to win?
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Well, you know, and as I say, I reckon a
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little bit of everything there.
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Yeah, and I think I'll throw in the John Farragher
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factor as well. I think I've said this whole time.
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I said I think all those players would want to
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play in this game. It's a special game for John.
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He's also been named, surprisingly, in jumper number 23, which
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I think is a really cool thing that the Panthers
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have done. They're wearing these throwback jerseys that John wore
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in his career at the Panthers. I think that's also.
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Something we should mention.
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It's old boys' day in general.
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It's old boys' day in general. Ivan traditionally doesn't rest
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plays in that final round. I think he probably, if
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Penrith were well ahead on the ladder, I think they
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might have been arresting last week, for instance. But going
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into that final round, he doesn't like to do it.
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We saw, I've been seeing a lot on Twitter this
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week about Canberra when they rested in the final round
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against the Dolphins last year and got beaten by 60
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and rolled into the finals with their proper team and
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couldn't win, couldn't win a game. So it really stuffed
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their momentum.
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The concern, obviously, is the last thing you want. I mean,
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imagine Nathan Cleary copping a stray elbow from a teammate
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and HIA. Yeah, yeah, that's out. Of course.
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You know?
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That's the concern here. Like, you don't think Nathan Cleary's
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playing 80 minutes, surely?
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No.
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Well, not unless the game's gone down to the wire.
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I reckon half an hour.
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What if the game's down to the wire? Like, it's 12-all,
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we're into the final 10 minutes of the game, I
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haven't pulled him off, or is he going to.
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Have we won the minor premiership or not? Have Manly
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beaten the Warriors? These are questions that might form part
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of that. We might have already won the minor premiership.
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Even in a loss, we could win the minor premiership.
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Exactly. Manly might have beaten the Warriors by 20. Yeah. Which,
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let me tell you, I think the Warriors are very vulnerable.
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I think we saw against... They probably should have lost
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against Newcastle. And Manly named a good team. They have
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not resting anyone. They're definitely not resting anyone. The other Seagulls.
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The Warriors, they're not resting either.
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They've brought some players back, too. I think they rested, like,
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Wade Egan and a.
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Couple of those guys. Wade Egan's having a rest. He
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got a bit of a knock last week as well,
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I think.
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But their halves are back.
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Wade Egan. But, yeah, we've got... Chanel Harris to beat
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her and Tamari Martin back. So they've got their Haas back.
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I think they're giving Kurt Capewell a rest. I'm not
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sure if he's injured or just having a rest, but
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the others are all there. They're starting forwards and everything else.
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So they want it too, obviously.
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And they're obviously very good in New Zealand, as we know.
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They can win well over there.
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I'm actually surprised. In the end, I'm probably more surprised
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the Warriors aren't resting than Penrith. Because I would look
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at the Warriors and I'd go, ooh, a little bit shaky.
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in defense in the last couple of weeks. Maybe they
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do need a little breather. I think that's just Trent
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Robinson's theory as well. Trent Robinson's like, so he's arrested everyone. Yeah.
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So he's like, well, we can't, we're going to be
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away in week one anyway. So what's it matter? Has
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he looked at it and said, well, it looks, it's
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even worse if I put out the main team and
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lose again and we've lost three. So let's have a reset.
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And I'm just a little bit surprised the Warriors didn't
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have a little reset because even though they're winning, I'm
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not as convinced as I was. I was on the
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Warriors bus, as you know, mid-season. You were. I have
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them finishing minor premieres. in our little ladder predictor, but
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I've been unimpressed. I've squeezed off the bus while everyone's
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getting on.
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But you've got to remember, the Warriors are a team
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that haven't had much success in their history. They've made
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a couple of grand finals, never won anything. I think
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they've won one minor premiership, which was in, what, 2002?
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So you think they want those?
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I think they do. I think they would love to
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win something. You know, kind of like Canberra last year.
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They really rallied around that minor premiership. That's why they
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rested in that last round. They didn't need to play them.
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Yeah.
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Like, I think that the Warriors probably want to win something,
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100 grand, you know, that dusty shield, JJ Gilton shield
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that's going to, you know, be.
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JJ will be staying in Sydney because there's no possible
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way he can give it to the Warriors in Auckland.
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So I wonder if the Warriors do win it, how they...
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Do they celebrate week one?
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They'll ship it over? I think we've had that before
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where it's presented week one of the finals because we
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mustn't have known in that last week or something like that.
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All right, well, Panda, so here's an interesting side point
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to this one. Both players, both teams have had key
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players overseas unexpectedly in the last week.
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Yes.
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And for one, it's gone very well and for the other,
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not so well. For Nathan Cleary, amazing scenes in Auckland.
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I don't think anyone would begrudge the fact that Ivan
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and Nathan had it off. I understand that Hamptons had
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a couple of days off anyway, didn't go back to
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training until Tuesday. So there was sort of no issues
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around that. Ivan would have, you know, paid for the
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Wi-Fi on the plane and, you know.
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But they would have had to, apparently they had to
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get some flights like last minute.
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Very last minute, yes. That would have hurt the credit card.
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Do you reckon they were seated in economy?
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I reckon they all had to get middle seats. You reckon?
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It was so late in the time.
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Or just half the family get the business class and
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the other half, okay, we can only fit you in economy.
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There was anyone on that plane. If anyone is listening
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now on that plane, let us know if you saw
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them at the airport or.
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On the plane. Seat 64J or something in the back there.
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The other one, of course, was Jerome Lua. What is
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going on? So, Jerome Lewis, I understand it. You might
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be able to fill me in because I haven't really
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been following it. He went over to Papua New Guinea
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to play in a golf tournament without the knowledge of
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the Tigers. What was this? The PGA event in Papua
480
00:21:01.920 --> 00:21:02.549
New Guinea or something?
481
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I don't know what exact tournament it was, but obviously
482
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the Tigers were playing in Townsville. I think it was
483
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on the Saturday night.
484
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Yes.
485
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So, he would have flown directly there or he came
486
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back to Sydney. Well.
487
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I don't know, there's reports that he may have got
488
00:21:16.910 --> 00:21:19.329
the Prime Minister's plane or something like that, a special
489
00:21:19.369 --> 00:21:23.240
charter flight. Obviously, Townsville, Cairns, he could have gotten a
490
00:21:23.279 --> 00:21:25.759
flight to Cairns and Cairns to Port Moresby or something
491
00:21:25.779 --> 00:21:27.259
like that. Who knows how he's gotten there, but the
492
00:21:27.359 --> 00:21:30.339
very next day, or the next afternoon, Sunday afternoon, he's
493
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arrived in... Papua New Guinea, Port Moresby. He's gone to
494
00:21:35.730 --> 00:21:37.970
this golf tournament where he was a hero over there.
495
00:21:38.910 --> 00:21:41.109
And then he's gone and visited the Pepsi factory and
496
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they did a proper unveiling of him being the Pepsi
497
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ambassador for Papua New Guinea. So we heard a lot
498
00:21:48.069 --> 00:21:50.569
about this. We're starting to see some promo shots. I
499
00:21:50.589 --> 00:21:52.250
think back in Sydney, they had a couple of people.
500
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We actually went and visited the factory where the drink
501
00:21:55.369 --> 00:21:59.690
probably gets made. Who knows? Manufactured. So it was a
502
00:21:59.710 --> 00:22:02.109
big deal over there for that few days. I'm hearing
503
00:22:02.170 --> 00:22:04.950
reports that Some of the people at the Tigers didn't
504
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know that was planned. Obviously, he has time off. He
505
00:22:08.990 --> 00:22:09.630
can do what he wants.
506
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But there was another thing about an ankle injury.
507
00:22:11.569 --> 00:22:13.490
Well, yeah, he hurt his ankle in that game. He
508
00:22:13.509 --> 00:22:16.089
came off early, like 15 minutes early in the game.
509
00:22:16.109 --> 00:22:18.329
So we're a bit unsure. People are saying he's going
510
00:22:18.349 --> 00:22:20.799
to get scans. Is his ankle okay?
511
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We don't know.
512
00:22:21.190 --> 00:22:24.039
He's been named to play. He probably will give it
513
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a go, seeing as it's his last game. But I
514
00:22:26.799 --> 00:22:28.720
think the Tigers probably just want rid of him. So
515
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they're probably like, let's just play him. If they dropped
516
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him for this week, it would probably be more controversy,
517
00:22:32.140 --> 00:22:35.779
even though it doesn't really matter. But, yeah, like, I
518
00:22:35.799 --> 00:22:39.940
just find the whole thing... so bad. I don't usually
519
00:22:40.000 --> 00:22:40.539
care about.
520
00:22:40.559 --> 00:22:41.700
So West Tigers.
521
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For sure. I don't care. Sometimes I like a bit
522
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of controversy, but this guy is living out his third-party
523
00:22:49.160 --> 00:22:51.839
deals already, and he hasn't even joined that club. He's
524
00:22:51.859 --> 00:22:52.940
still going to go to Parramatta next year.
525
00:22:52.960 --> 00:22:53.380
That's right.
526
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He doesn't join the club until 2028, so he's going
527
00:22:55.099 --> 00:22:56.640
to be doing a bit more of this, you'd have
528
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to assume.
529
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And Parramatta know what they're getting.
530
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They know what they're getting themselves into.
531
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But I think the Tigers then have made the right decision.
532
00:23:02.700 --> 00:23:04.509
They must have seen the writing on the wall this year.
533
00:23:04.529 --> 00:23:04.609
Yeah.
534
00:23:04.970 --> 00:23:06.410
And have gone, you know what, Jerome, we don't think
535
00:23:06.430 --> 00:23:07.710
you should be here next year. This is going to
536
00:23:07.730 --> 00:23:09.450
be one hell of a distraction for us.
537
00:23:09.630 --> 00:23:10.170
Absolutely.
538
00:23:10.269 --> 00:23:13.089
There's no point. Yeah. And you know what? This is,
539
00:23:13.509 --> 00:23:16.109
you know, harping back to the Nathan Cleary thing, and
540
00:23:16.150 --> 00:23:18.930
I know Nathan Cleary's not Jerome Luai. He'd do things
541
00:23:18.970 --> 00:23:22.210
very differently. But, wow, what a... I'm not going to
542
00:23:22.230 --> 00:23:25.390
call it a fall from grace, but from being part of,
543
00:23:25.609 --> 00:23:27.829
you know, rugby league's best team in a generation, an
544
00:23:27.869 --> 00:23:30.990
incredible system at Penrith, probably a bit more of a
545
00:23:31.029 --> 00:23:34.759
disciplined system, all of that sort of stuff, to... So,
546
00:23:34.779 --> 00:23:39.559
the last couple of years of Jerome Luai's legacy career, whatever, like,
547
00:23:39.619 --> 00:23:43.369
it just shows you the grass is not always greener,
548
00:23:43.549 --> 00:23:45.289
even if the cash is a bit greener on the
549
00:23:45.329 --> 00:23:45.769
other side.
550
00:23:45.970 --> 00:23:48.750
Yeah, yeah, definitely. And, you know, obviously, Jerome will say,
551
00:23:48.829 --> 00:23:50.410
I can do what I want. I'm allowed to do
552
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this in my off time.
553
00:23:51.740 --> 00:23:51.819
Yeah.
554
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It's just, I don't know, even to me, who's a
555
00:23:54.069 --> 00:23:56.029
big fan of Jerome, I just thought it was a
556
00:23:56.049 --> 00:23:58.109
bit odd to be doing that now. Why couldn't the
557
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Tigers finish up this Sunday? I know you had to
558
00:24:00.950 --> 00:24:02.579
get to a golf tournament, but why can't you do
559
00:24:02.619 --> 00:24:05.759
your Pepsi tour visit next week or something? When the
560
00:24:05.799 --> 00:24:07.920
Tigers are on holidays, you're on holidays, you can do
561
00:24:07.940 --> 00:24:08.599
what the hell you want.
562
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One element I did see was that he was in
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00:24:11.740 --> 00:24:14.150
a shirt in Papua New Guinea where he had the
564
00:24:14.150 --> 00:24:18.829
001 branding. And that says to me, you know, he's
565
00:24:18.869 --> 00:24:20.450
promoting the Chiefs.
566
00:24:20.789 --> 00:24:22.750
But you're not allowed to as a third party. You're
567
00:24:22.769 --> 00:24:24.670
not allowed to wear anything.
568
00:24:24.670 --> 00:24:25.220
001.
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001. Yeah.
570
00:24:26.319 --> 00:24:28.519
Well, you know, obviously he might not have heard of
571
00:24:28.579 --> 00:24:30.319
Chiefs logo. Are they even called the Chiefs still? Are
572
00:24:30.339 --> 00:24:31.940
they still allowed to be called the Chiefs? I thought
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that hasn't been approved yet.
574
00:24:33.559 --> 00:24:33.920
Oh, really?
575
00:24:34.079 --> 00:24:36.819
No, no, no. It hasn't been approved yet. There's a
576
00:24:36.839 --> 00:24:38.599
battle with the Waikato Chiefs in.
577
00:24:39.359 --> 00:24:39.759
Rugby.
578
00:24:39.839 --> 00:24:43.380
So that's why there's no official logo. There's no jerseys.
579
00:24:43.400 --> 00:24:45.339
This could be like the Sydney Sirens battle. Aren't they
580
00:24:45.359 --> 00:24:46.200
battling someone?
581
00:24:46.259 --> 00:24:50.039
Yeah, there's some ice hockey club. A female ice hockey team.
582
00:24:50.119 --> 00:24:53.819
Jesus Christ. All right, well, let's get back to the game. Panthers-Tigers. Listen,
583
00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:55.660
I think Penrith will win this. I think it's a
584
00:24:55.720 --> 00:24:57.740
hard game to get a read on because I don't
585
00:24:57.779 --> 00:25:00.799
think Penrith is going to give this 100%. I do
586
00:25:00.819 --> 00:25:03.000
think there's going to be players coming off. I think
587
00:25:03.019 --> 00:25:05.059
the Tigers will have a crack. I think Penrith will win.
588
00:25:05.099 --> 00:25:07.140
I think they'll win by 12.
589
00:25:07.140 --> 00:25:08.900
But there's only a certain amount of players that can
590
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come off, Troy.
591
00:25:09.700 --> 00:25:11.549
No, exactly. But I'm saying, like, if we're playing a
592
00:25:11.569 --> 00:25:13.690
full second half without Nathan Cleary, I don't expect us
593
00:25:13.710 --> 00:25:15.349
to put 60 or 70 on them like we did
594
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earlier in the year.
595
00:25:16.069 --> 00:25:19.549
Who are you resting? Who are your four key players
596
00:25:19.569 --> 00:25:21.289
that you're pulling off at some point?
597
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Cleary, Leota. I don't know what's happening with Isaiah Yeo,
598
00:25:26.289 --> 00:25:28.910
but I'd probably give Lindsay Smith some time. Particularly, you've
599
00:25:28.930 --> 00:25:30.890
got Scotty Sorensen who can come on or whatever. And
600
00:25:30.930 --> 00:25:34.029
I'm guessing Mitch Kenny's not playing 80 minutes and maybe
601
00:25:34.069 --> 00:25:35.349
not even doing that move into the front row.
602
00:25:35.390 --> 00:25:37.470
You're keeping Dylan Edwards out there the whole time?
603
00:25:37.670 --> 00:25:39.190
I think Dylan's had a rest.
604
00:25:39.430 --> 00:25:41.650
I know, but he's crucial. Dylan's had a rest.
605
00:25:41.670 --> 00:25:43.950
Who are you bringing on?
606
00:25:43.970 --> 00:25:45.970
There's Edgar hasn't been named, has he?
607
00:25:46.039 --> 00:25:48.460
No, no. Jesse McLean's in there, so that depends if
608
00:25:48.480 --> 00:25:49.039
you're shifting.
609
00:25:49.059 --> 00:25:50.559
They could put John Jenkins at fullback.
610
00:25:51.029 --> 00:25:52.690
And then we've got the other factor as well, and
611
00:25:52.710 --> 00:25:56.460
I think it's bad news for Tom Jenkins because even
612
00:25:56.480 --> 00:25:59.359
though he might score some tries on the weekend, the
613
00:25:59.400 --> 00:26:03.900
Roosters obviously have arrested everyone. Luttrell's back feeding AJ on
614
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that left side. So I think Alex Johnson is going
615
00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:08.000
to finish the year as the top driver. Honestly, this
616
00:26:08.019 --> 00:26:11.720
came out of nowhere. AJ came out of nowhere and.
617
00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:12.900
Could possibly take this out.
618
00:26:13.059 --> 00:26:15.859
So sitting right now, Alex Johnson is one ahead of
619
00:26:16.279 --> 00:26:19.059
Thomas Jenkins on 29. I'm going to say he gets
620
00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:22.039
a double. against the roosters so that's 31 so tom
621
00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:24.920
jenkins might need four on sunday to go past him
622
00:26:25.220 --> 00:26:28.960
bloody hell so we shall see but yep i'm going
623
00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:30.240
penrith by 12 yourself.
624
00:26:30.589 --> 00:26:33.250
Yeah i'm going penrith um for the win i'm gonna
625
00:26:33.289 --> 00:26:35.710
say by 18.
626
00:26:34.910 --> 00:26:38.130
Troy 18 very confident this week all right now just
627
00:26:38.170 --> 00:26:40.839
to um just to take you through what's happening there
628
00:26:40.930 --> 00:26:43.319
on sunday it is father's day of course so good
629
00:26:43.339 --> 00:26:45.450
opportunity to get out with uh With your dad or
630
00:26:45.470 --> 00:26:49.190
something for the footy. The gates open at 2pm. Now
631
00:26:49.230 --> 00:26:52.650
the former player lap of honour. All the former players
632
00:26:52.670 --> 00:26:56.410
will be going around. Now I notice there's a $ 0
633
00:26:55.589 --> 00:26:58.440
ticket option if you go onto the... The buyer tickets.
634
00:26:58.519 --> 00:26:59.059
Yeah.
635
00:26:59.140 --> 00:27:01.099
It's a former player offer. You obviously need the code.
636
00:27:01.119 --> 00:27:02.660
So they've put the code out to all the players.
637
00:27:02.859 --> 00:27:04.440
Oh, like Ticketmaster?
638
00:27:04.460 --> 00:27:06.319
Yeah, it's on Ticketmaster. So if you knew the code,
639
00:27:06.339 --> 00:27:08.240
you'd whack it in. Oh, wow. Get your ticket. How
640
00:27:08.259 --> 00:27:11.740
good's that? That'll be on at 3.40, so just before
641
00:27:11.789 --> 00:27:15.750
the game. Now, three lucky fathers are going to be
642
00:27:15.829 --> 00:27:18.930
randomly selected. to participate in the Bomb Catch. You might
643
00:27:19.230 --> 00:27:21.170
get selected, Troy. I might be in there. I don't
644
00:27:21.190 --> 00:27:24.589
know if they're double-checking your father or how they do that,
645
00:27:24.609 --> 00:27:27.349
but the Bomb Catch. And if you're the winner of
646
00:27:27.369 --> 00:27:31.380
the Bomb Catch, a 2026 signed and framed jersey is
647
00:27:31.539 --> 00:27:35.160
on the way to you. The Kids' Corner is going
648
00:27:35.180 --> 00:27:40.559
to have poster-making, photo opportunities and what's not. There's the
649
00:27:40.599 --> 00:27:44.359
bow screening. That'll be a fun one. That'll be sensational.
650
00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:49.059
The Pantherettes will be on deck, of course, and all
651
00:27:49.099 --> 00:27:52.019
the usual fun and games. And, of course, as you mentioned,
652
00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:55.369
John Farragher, named in jumper number 23 as a nod
653
00:27:55.420 --> 00:27:57.650
to the fact that we're wearing his jersey and whatnot today.
654
00:27:58.609 --> 00:27:59.369
Yeah, very cool.
655
00:28:00.170 --> 00:28:02.730
All right, moving on to the scenario. So we hinted
656
00:28:02.769 --> 00:28:06.289
at this with the minor premiership. So here's the story
657
00:28:06.309 --> 00:28:09.029
at the moment. Penrith and the Warriors are going to
658
00:28:09.069 --> 00:28:13.250
finish top two, 40 points each. Now, the points differential
659
00:28:13.390 --> 00:28:18.920
is the key. And the Warriors are one ahead of
660
00:28:19.029 --> 00:28:21.470
Penrith at the moment. So the scenarios are, if the
661
00:28:21.509 --> 00:28:25.190
Warriors win, they obviously have one hand on the shield,
662
00:28:25.230 --> 00:28:27.730
but then Penrith would need to win and claw back
663
00:28:27.769 --> 00:28:30.769
the margin. So if the Warriors beat Manly by 10 points,
664
00:28:30.789 --> 00:28:33.700
then we kind of need 12 points to go past them.
665
00:28:34.619 --> 00:28:37.380
If the Warriors lose, you imagine they're losing, well, they're
666
00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:40.579
obviously losing by more than one point. So Penrith need
667
00:28:40.619 --> 00:28:44.819
to win by any margin. Or lose by less than
668
00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:48.839
the points differential gap. So if you were throwing a
669
00:28:48.859 --> 00:28:51.160
prediction there and you look at the weekend and how
670
00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:53.880
it should unfold, Penrith will probably finish minor premiers. But
671
00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:54.880
it's a decent race.
672
00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:56.799
Yeah, I think so. I think so as well. I
673
00:28:57.380 --> 00:29:00.440
cannot see Penrith winning, especially after naming that team that
674
00:29:00.460 --> 00:29:03.180
they did on Tuesday. I can't see them winning this one.
675
00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:04.920
I can't see them not winning this one at all.
676
00:29:04.940 --> 00:29:09.539
Their shoe wins for sure. Warriors, I think. It may
677
00:29:09.559 --> 00:29:10.960
be due for a loss. I'm not sure. I can't
678
00:29:10.980 --> 00:29:14.720
remember when their last loss was, the Warriors. They definitely
679
00:29:14.769 --> 00:29:16.289
want to win, of course. I said before that they
680
00:29:16.329 --> 00:29:20.250
would love to win a bit of silverware. So I think, yeah,
681
00:29:20.369 --> 00:29:22.650
all the favours in Penrith's court there, for sure.
682
00:29:23.089 --> 00:29:26.650
All right. Now, so the other interesting games on the weekend,
683
00:29:26.930 --> 00:29:29.049
what we might do is just have a look at
684
00:29:29.069 --> 00:29:34.029
the draw for the weekend. So on Thursday night, Bulldogs-Broncos,
685
00:29:34.049 --> 00:29:36.069
so nothing doing there. Are we testing the kickoff rule
686
00:29:36.109 --> 00:29:39.160
in that? I know we are in the Dragons Eels
687
00:29:39.200 --> 00:29:39.519
game I.
688
00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:41.500
Don't know what they're doing anymore.
689
00:29:42.259 --> 00:29:46.099
Friday, we've got the Titans and the Dolphins. So the Dolphins...
690
00:29:45.539 --> 00:29:46.440
What have.
691
00:29:46.980 --> 00:29:49.089
The Dolphins done with their team?
692
00:29:49.230 --> 00:29:51.390
I don't think that they're resting as far as I know.
693
00:29:51.650 --> 00:29:55.769
They can drop, obviously, to fourth. But if they win,
694
00:29:55.789 --> 00:29:58.809
they finish third. It doesn't really make a difference. Friday night,
695
00:29:58.829 --> 00:30:02.000
this is the big one. Rabbitohs, Roosters, because the Rabbitohs
696
00:30:02.140 --> 00:30:05.380
are playing for a home final. They can leapfrog.
697
00:30:05.400 --> 00:30:07.900
So they need to win, right? They can leapfrog.
698
00:30:08.509 --> 00:30:10.529
No, they need to win because the Knights have a bye.
699
00:30:10.609 --> 00:30:13.150
So the Knights have already leapfrogged them. We add them
700
00:30:13.349 --> 00:30:16.730
to 34. South are on 32. They have to win, yeah.
701
00:30:16.750 --> 00:30:17.809
They have to win.
702
00:30:17.829 --> 00:30:20.059
Do they care? Do they want it?
703
00:30:20.230 --> 00:30:21.880
I think they want a home finals. Otherwise, you're going
704
00:30:21.890 --> 00:30:26.740
to Newcastle. You're going to Newcastle. The Warriors manly game
705
00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:29.640
we've talked about. Cowboys, Raiders has no impact. I think
706
00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:32.980
the Cowboys have rested a couple as well because they're basically.
707
00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:35.559
So you're saying Cowboys can.
708
00:30:35.380 --> 00:30:38.269
Move up, though. I don't think they can. Oh, yes,
709
00:30:38.289 --> 00:30:40.599
they can. Sorry, yes, depending on results. But their for
710
00:30:40.619 --> 00:30:44.059
and against is terrible. So they really... It's unlikely.
711
00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:45.440
So they're eight. They're locked into eight.
712
00:30:45.460 --> 00:30:48.180
They're going to be eight. Okay. Dragons, eels means nothing.
713
00:30:48.660 --> 00:30:51.599
And then you've got the Panthers and the Tigers. Now,
714
00:30:51.779 --> 00:30:58.869
if all goes to plan, your likely scenario, obviously the
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00:30:58.900 --> 00:31:05.089
top four games, it's probably going to be Panthers, Roosters... Warriors, Dolphins.
716
00:31:05.130 --> 00:31:09.109
That's the likely scenario. Then you've likely got Cronulla and
717
00:31:09.130 --> 00:31:12.769
the Cowboys, and then the Rabbitohs and the Knights. So
718
00:31:12.809 --> 00:31:16.160
that leaves us into this problematic finals schedule. And I
719
00:31:16.170 --> 00:31:19.200
say problematic because it is pretty much impossible for the
720
00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:23.960
NRL to open the finals with a qualifying final game,
721
00:31:24.339 --> 00:31:26.240
which they normally would, top four match. In fact, I
722
00:31:26.259 --> 00:31:28.180
think this will be the first time that they're going
723
00:31:28.200 --> 00:31:31.279
to open with an elimination game because the Panthers can't
724
00:31:31.299 --> 00:31:33.670
have a five-day turnaround from Sunday through And you'd be
725
00:31:33.690 --> 00:31:35.470
kicking off at about 10 o'clock at night if you
726
00:31:35.490 --> 00:31:39.329
were the Warriors. So, that means we're probably going to
727
00:31:39.410 --> 00:31:44.650
see Sharks Cowboys or Rabbitohs Knights on the Friday. So,
728
00:31:45.140 --> 00:31:49.619
I would think the Warriors get the Saturday afternoon slot. So,
729
00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:52.859
that'll be Warriors, say, Dolphins. That leaves you with either
730
00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:59.279
Panthers Roosters on the Saturday night or Sharks... Cowboys or
731
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:01.559
something like that on the Saturday night And then the
732
00:32:01.599 --> 00:32:03.480
Sunday vice versa So there's a little bit to go
733
00:32:03.500 --> 00:32:08.069
around And I don't know What the NRL would prefer
734
00:32:08.109 --> 00:32:10.730
there I feel like if Newcastle have a home final
735
00:32:11.589 --> 00:32:12.829
They're going to want to play them on the Sunday,
736
00:32:12.869 --> 00:32:14.349
but that's not going to happen. South are going to
737
00:32:14.369 --> 00:32:14.650
get that.
738
00:32:16.259 --> 00:32:18.660
Personally, what would I like to see? It doesn't really
739
00:32:18.700 --> 00:32:21.019
bother me, to be honest. We saw that Penrith are
740
00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:24.000
pretty good during the day, so a Sunday afternoon game
741
00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:28.319
at Combank Stadium would be a pretty cool watch, I think.
742
00:32:28.339 --> 00:32:30.819
You'd think you'd probably sell it out for sure. I
743
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:33.160
think you can get 30 there for that. With Roosters
744
00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:36.210
fans and Panthers fans combined, you could easily sell that out.
745
00:32:36.619 --> 00:32:39.240
Saturday night, the same thing. I think they could probably
746
00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:43.859
get there as well. Could Penrith sell out a Panthers-Dolphins game?
747
00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:46.200
Probably not. I'm not thinking in round one. I don't
748
00:32:46.220 --> 00:32:46.769
think they can get to 30.
749
00:32:46.769 --> 00:32:46.950
Do you?
750
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:50.410
There's not many Dolphins fans out in Sydney.
751
00:32:50.430 --> 00:32:51.789
Probably not. Maybe 25.
752
00:32:51.789 --> 00:32:54.049
You reckon they get 25? Probably. Even though the Panthers
753
00:32:54.069 --> 00:32:57.069
fans know they've got at least another game.
754
00:32:57.309 --> 00:32:58.329
That's true.
755
00:32:58.470 --> 00:33:00.210
It's always a bit tricky in that first week. This
756
00:33:00.230 --> 00:33:03.410
is our first home final not at Penrith Stadium either
757
00:33:03.470 --> 00:33:05.990
for a long time too. Yeah, that's true.
758
00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:10.539
Playing in the game of trying to work out the schedule,
759
00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:13.019
if Penrith were to play this Saturday, there is a
760
00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:15.220
little thing in the way, and that is an NRLW
761
00:33:15.269 --> 00:33:19.529
match scheduled for midday. The Eels and the Cowboys at
762
00:33:19.589 --> 00:33:23.309
Conbank Stadium. So the NRL may just say, you know what,
763
00:33:23.369 --> 00:33:25.589
it's just easier to put Penrith on Sunday because we
764
00:33:25.609 --> 00:33:27.349
don't have to deal with whatever we've got to figure
765
00:33:27.410 --> 00:33:30.670
out with this NRLW game. Even though you could easily
766
00:33:30.730 --> 00:33:33.170
move that game either in time slot to be a
767
00:33:34.170 --> 00:33:36.799
curtain raiser to a Penrith Roosters game, Or he could
768
00:33:36.819 --> 00:33:39.529
move it to another venue. Let's be honest, that NRLW
769
00:33:39.549 --> 00:33:42.609
game against North Queensland is probably not attracting a massive
770
00:33:42.670 --> 00:33:44.210
crowd at midday on a Saturday.
771
00:33:44.269 --> 00:33:46.170
No, and I'm not sure how North Queensland are going
772
00:33:46.190 --> 00:33:47.769
in the NRLW, but I know the Eels are certainly
773
00:33:47.809 --> 00:33:48.670
not making the finals.
774
00:33:48.690 --> 00:33:49.410
They're not the Cowboys.
775
00:33:49.470 --> 00:33:53.569
So both teams aren't making the finals. You can't imagine. Unfortunately,
776
00:33:53.589 --> 00:33:56.720
the NRL is going to have to... you know, supersede
777
00:33:56.779 --> 00:33:59.319
the NRLW on this occasion.
778
00:33:59.500 --> 00:34:02.099
I mean, you could clear it though. We could clear it.
779
00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:04.940
But what does that consist of? Like, are they opening
780
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:08.659
all the food stalls? Why are we having it there anyway? Like,
781
00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:12.619
to be honest, like, no offense, but they play these
782
00:34:12.639 --> 00:34:15.619
games down the road in Maryland, usually their home games,
783
00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:18.940
Eric Twiddle Stadium in Granville. They very rarely are playing
784
00:34:19.059 --> 00:34:21.880
a game at Combank. Like, what is the purpose of
785
00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:24.559
opening this massive venue for it?
786
00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:27.309
Like, I just don't know if we'll actually see a
787
00:34:27.349 --> 00:34:31.599
complete reworking of that NRLW final round schedule because the
788
00:34:31.659 --> 00:34:34.719
Sharks also have a home game on Saturday at 1.45.
789
00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:36.780
But if they are playing a home final, why not
790
00:34:36.820 --> 00:34:40.230
have the NRLW as a curtain raiser to that? Let's
791
00:34:40.250 --> 00:34:45.360
say they make the Sharks play Friday night. then they're
792
00:34:45.380 --> 00:34:47.139
backing up with an NRLW on a Saturday. You could
793
00:34:47.159 --> 00:34:47.480
have had it all.
794
00:34:47.489 --> 00:34:49.550
But how does that work with season tickets and things
795
00:34:49.590 --> 00:34:49.989
like that?
796
00:34:50.190 --> 00:34:51.809
Yeah, look, I don't know how it all works.
797
00:34:51.829 --> 00:34:53.489
Do the NRLW members have seats?
798
00:34:53.849 --> 00:34:54.409
Yeah, well, that's true.
799
00:34:54.429 --> 00:34:55.070
They need to be in?
800
00:34:55.630 --> 00:34:58.190
But to that point, the NRL then has the same
801
00:34:58.369 --> 00:35:01.429
issue on a Cronulla game in that there is an
802
00:35:01.510 --> 00:35:05.110
NRLW game scheduled at Osen Protect Stadium at 1.45 on
803
00:35:05.130 --> 00:35:09.010
the Saturday afternoon. So if you give the Sharks Saturday
804
00:35:09.090 --> 00:35:13.440
night and Penrith Sunday... then you've got this issue there
805
00:35:13.460 --> 00:35:15.780
of the same thing, just a little bit later. So
806
00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:20.059
bottom line is there's issues all around the place. And Newcastle,
807
00:35:20.739 --> 00:35:22.500
had they got a home final, well, there was an
808
00:35:22.579 --> 00:35:25.389
NRLW game scheduled there for Sunday the 13th of September
809
00:35:25.409 --> 00:35:32.489
at 1.45pm. Now, that is obviously out in terms of
810
00:35:32.530 --> 00:35:35.070
the Knights hosting home final, unless there's an upset with
811
00:35:35.090 --> 00:35:37.949
the Roosters. So that doesn't play a factor now. The
812
00:35:38.010 --> 00:35:41.360
other one that may come in, to this is do
813
00:35:41.380 --> 00:35:44.380
they would they rather not put the Warriors on a
814
00:35:44.619 --> 00:35:47.980
Sunday to kind of get them out of that potential
815
00:35:48.059 --> 00:35:51.019
cycle so they could like if all I know the
816
00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:52.980
Warriors are going to be playing in New Zealand you
817
00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:56.230
would think but the whole five day turnaround thing whatever
818
00:35:56.250 --> 00:35:58.369
at least you get the Warriors out of that that
819
00:35:58.789 --> 00:36:01.449
potential if you just play them earlier so I don't
820
00:36:01.489 --> 00:36:04.630
know but I feel like Penrith it's either going to
821
00:36:04.670 --> 00:36:06.860
be the late Saturday game or the Sunday afternoon game
822
00:36:07.590 --> 00:36:10.260
I've got a feeling We're going to end up on
823
00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:12.880
Saturday night because I think the NRL will look at
824
00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:19.150
that Rabideau's night's home final as that's a Sunday afternoon 60,000
825
00:36:19.150 --> 00:36:24.570
at a core stadium. That's if the Rabideau's fans are
826
00:36:24.590 --> 00:36:24.909
going to travel.
827
00:36:24.929 --> 00:36:25.969
That's if the Rabideau's get it.
828
00:36:26.010 --> 00:36:27.670
If the Rabideau's get it. All the night's fans are
829
00:36:27.690 --> 00:36:29.420
going to travel. We know that they travel well. I
830
00:36:30.469 --> 00:36:34.079
just think, imagine Sunday afternoon a core. That's your fam.
831
00:36:34.780 --> 00:36:36.739
They're a bit obsessed with this Sunday Arvo time slot.
832
00:36:37.190 --> 00:36:42.019
that's your family special time slot versus, say, Panthers Roosters. Like,
833
00:36:42.059 --> 00:36:49.199
to me, Rabideau's night screams Sunday afternoon, family atmosphere, 60,000
834
00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:50.760
at a call, where on the Saturday night, is it
835
00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:55.800
getting that crowd? So, therefore, I'm leaning towards Panthers Roosters
836
00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:57.219
being Saturday night.
837
00:36:58.440 --> 00:36:58.960
I'm happy with that.
838
00:36:59.400 --> 00:37:00.079
I've got no idea.
839
00:37:00.179 --> 00:37:00.780
I'm happy with that.
840
00:37:01.300 --> 00:37:02.869
I'm happy with that, too. I'd rather it be Sunday night.
841
00:37:02.889 --> 00:37:04.110
I don't want to wait till Sunday.
842
00:37:04.130 --> 00:37:05.429
Yeah, let's get it done. I don't want to wait
843
00:37:05.469 --> 00:37:05.710
till Sunday.
844
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the top eight. We're just going to have a quick
862
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look at the top eight because it is settled. And
863
00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:09.900
let's just have a quick comment each.
864
00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:10.320
Yep.
865
00:38:10.579 --> 00:38:14.599
On the chances of these teams to do anything in
866
00:38:14.619 --> 00:38:17.650
the finals. And where you think they're probably going to
867
00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:20.250
end up. So we'll start with, we'll let you go
868
00:38:20.309 --> 00:38:22.869
first on all of them. Let's go from the bottom up. Cowboys.
869
00:38:23.309 --> 00:38:27.210
Cowboys. I don't think they're going to win the comp. No.
870
00:38:28.269 --> 00:38:29.690
Can they upset in week one?
871
00:38:29.929 --> 00:38:30.170
Yes.
872
00:38:30.769 --> 00:38:32.969
If they're coming up against a Sharks team who aren't
873
00:38:33.030 --> 00:38:36.010
going great. Cowboys, you know, aren't going great either, but
874
00:38:36.030 --> 00:38:38.150
at least they're stringing some wins together. So I can
875
00:38:38.170 --> 00:38:39.809
see them maybe progressing to the second round.
876
00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:42.699
I'm with you. I think Cowboys, that's the upset of
877
00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:45.300
week one. But yes, they're done in week two. The
878
00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:48.599
Cowboys leak way too many points. In fact, they are
879
00:38:48.639 --> 00:38:53.039
the worst performing defensive team in the top 12 teams
880
00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:56.019
in the NRL. So obviously, they lost a good set
881
00:38:56.059 --> 00:38:56.739
at 80 at one point.
882
00:38:56.900 --> 00:38:57.639
They did, yes.
883
00:38:57.679 --> 00:38:58.320
Not so long ago.
884
00:38:58.500 --> 00:38:59.340
All right, Knights.
885
00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:00.500
Knights.
886
00:39:01.059 --> 00:39:05.960
I think they're going to be, unfortunately, week one losers, Troy.
887
00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:08.599
They've done very well to get to where they are.
888
00:39:08.659 --> 00:39:11.500
I just think Some injuries and suspensions are going to
889
00:39:11.519 --> 00:39:14.429
probably bite them. I think if they're coming up against, say,
890
00:39:14.449 --> 00:39:16.530
the Bunnies in Week 1, I think the Bunnies are
891
00:39:16.550 --> 00:39:19.849
looking much more healthier, they're looking much more fresher, and
892
00:39:19.889 --> 00:39:21.989
they've probably got a little bit more to play for.
893
00:39:21.989 --> 00:39:23.960
So I'm going to go the Knights out in Week one.
894
00:39:24.099 --> 00:39:27.360
Yeah, too many injuries, too many suspensions. But a great season, though,
895
00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:31.250
after they finished last season. So a great return. The Rabbits.
896
00:39:31.989 --> 00:39:33.969
The Rabbits, look, as I just said just before, I
897
00:39:33.989 --> 00:39:36.289
think they will win week one. Come to week two,
898
00:39:36.369 --> 00:39:39.530
I think, I'm not quite sure yet who they would play,
899
00:39:39.550 --> 00:39:41.389
but they're probably going to play a top four team,
900
00:39:41.530 --> 00:39:46.059
top four loser, which would probably be played at the
901
00:39:46.260 --> 00:39:48.860
top four loser's home ground. So they could potentially play
902
00:39:49.019 --> 00:39:50.590
New Zealand. They could play Penrith.
903
00:39:50.619 --> 00:39:51.360
They could play Zunkorp.
904
00:39:53.380 --> 00:39:55.900
I think the Rabbitohs, unfortunately, will get bungled out in
905
00:39:55.920 --> 00:39:56.530
the second round.
906
00:39:57.030 --> 00:39:59.130
I've got the Rabbitohs making a prelim.
907
00:39:59.369 --> 00:39:59.829
Wow.
908
00:39:59.849 --> 00:40:00.469
South Sydney make a prelim.
909
00:40:00.489 --> 00:40:02.030
You are on the Wayne Bennett train.
910
00:40:02.050 --> 00:40:05.550
Latrell catches fire in the finals.
911
00:40:05.570 --> 00:40:06.650
Your new mate, Latrell Mitchell.
912
00:40:06.670 --> 00:40:10.900
Has a shock finals campaign. I don't mind the Rabbits
913
00:40:10.940 --> 00:40:13.760
from outside the eight to make a prelim final. Cronulla.
914
00:40:14.099 --> 00:40:18.119
Cronulla. Look, I think... They've struggled, obviously, in the last
915
00:40:18.519 --> 00:40:22.000
few weeks with that injury to Trindle. I think no
916
00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:23.960
one really thought that would make such an impact like
917
00:40:24.019 --> 00:40:26.659
it has, but it definitely has. Like I said before,
918
00:40:26.679 --> 00:40:28.179
I think the Cowboys beat them in week one.
919
00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:31.800
Cronulla in crisis, yeah. I do not know what's happened.
920
00:40:31.820 --> 00:40:33.739
There was a period there for about four weeks where
921
00:40:33.780 --> 00:40:35.849
Cronulla looked like they could win the comp, and Nico
922
00:40:35.889 --> 00:40:37.809
Hines was in this purple patch of form, and now
923
00:40:37.829 --> 00:40:40.630
it has fallen over. So, yeah, I've got Cronulla straight out.
924
00:40:40.989 --> 00:40:44.090
And look, then... If you're a fan, you start to
925
00:40:44.110 --> 00:40:47.719
get frustrated, and it's not Craig Fitzgibbon's fault, but they
926
00:40:47.739 --> 00:40:50.199
just keep doing this every year, where they're great through
927
00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:52.619
the home-and-away season, and then at the business end, they
928
00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:54.880
fall away. The Roosters.
929
00:40:55.519 --> 00:40:58.219
Yeah, the Roosters. Look, a couple of weeks ago, they
930
00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:00.949
were looking like the best team out. They beat Penrith.
931
00:41:01.010 --> 00:41:04.250
They were looking really settled. They were great defenders. We
932
00:41:04.289 --> 00:41:08.090
saw that Penrith couldn't penetrate them. They were doing so well,
933
00:41:08.130 --> 00:41:10.250
and then the Sam Walker injury hits, and I think
934
00:41:10.269 --> 00:41:12.030
that was a bit of a final straw for them.
935
00:41:12.110 --> 00:41:12.510
However.
936
00:41:13.239 --> 00:41:16.139
I do think the Roosters will probably come good come
937
00:41:16.179 --> 00:41:19.179
finals time. While I don't think they will win week one,
938
00:41:19.420 --> 00:41:21.000
they do get a second bite of the cherry. I
939
00:41:21.019 --> 00:41:23.619
think they can win week two and make it to
940
00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:25.349
a prelim, but that's it. I don't think they can
941
00:41:25.389 --> 00:41:26.510
go any further than a prelim.
942
00:41:26.750 --> 00:41:29.809
Yeah, look, talking of cherry, not too many teams could
943
00:41:29.869 --> 00:41:32.369
lose their halfback and replace them with Daly Cherry Evans,
944
00:41:32.630 --> 00:41:34.750
who I know is at the end of his career,
945
00:41:34.809 --> 00:41:37.650
but the experience you bring in there, like I'm not
946
00:41:37.690 --> 00:41:39.510
saying that he's Sam Walker. I'm not saying that they.
947
00:41:42.050 --> 00:41:45.090
That they need that that you know it's no difference
948
00:41:45.380 --> 00:41:48.280
but i do think that um that if any club
949
00:41:48.300 --> 00:41:50.719
could have lost their halfback it's probably the roosters so
950
00:41:51.349 --> 00:41:53.530
I still think they'll be in the fight. But yeah,
951
00:41:53.550 --> 00:41:55.409
I probably don't think they can win the comp now.
952
00:41:55.690 --> 00:41:57.090
Are you getting them to a prelim?
953
00:41:57.429 --> 00:41:58.710
I'll get them to a prelim unless they have to
954
00:41:58.750 --> 00:42:00.590
play the Rabbits. And I've got the Rabbits going past them,
955
00:42:00.610 --> 00:42:02.699
of course. But yes, otherwise, I've got them in a
956
00:42:02.719 --> 00:42:05.059
prelim because they're going to face one of those bottom
957
00:42:05.079 --> 00:42:07.400
four teams. Dolphins.
958
00:42:07.579 --> 00:42:10.260
Dolphins. Yeah, look, I love the Dolphins. I think they're
959
00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:11.940
the team I want to see win the comp if
960
00:42:11.980 --> 00:42:14.769
Penrith don't. I think they have the potential to go
961
00:42:14.869 --> 00:42:19.679
all the way to the grand final. Obviously... results would
962
00:42:19.699 --> 00:42:21.260
have to go their way. I don't want to see
963
00:42:21.300 --> 00:42:23.739
them come up against Penrith at any point until grand
964
00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:27.170
final day. So I think the Dolphins, for me, are
965
00:42:27.210 --> 00:42:30.510
one of the contenders. While their defense isn't the best,
966
00:42:30.610 --> 00:42:32.630
we know that, but they can turn it on and
967
00:42:32.650 --> 00:42:34.510
score a crap load of points. They gave Penrith a
968
00:42:34.550 --> 00:42:37.119
real shake in Darwin. That game went to golden point.
969
00:42:37.539 --> 00:42:39.880
I just think there's something about the Dolphins this year
970
00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:42.039
that they could just get lucky and make it.
971
00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:44.289
All the way. I feel the opposite of you. That's
972
00:42:44.309 --> 00:42:46.570
the team I least would want to see win the comp. Oh, why?
973
00:42:46.630 --> 00:42:49.329
What's wrong with the Pearl Dolphins? Because I'm a rugby
974
00:42:49.349 --> 00:42:54.570
league fan first, and their fans, not long-suffering enough. Not
975
00:42:54.659 --> 00:42:57.780
long-suffering enough. I'm glad they're having some success, but they
976
00:42:57.800 --> 00:42:59.760
don't deserve a comp. Please.
977
00:43:00.019 --> 00:43:01.179
What a story that would be.
978
00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:03.960
Redcliffe Leagues Club. Panthers.
979
00:43:04.760 --> 00:43:07.139
Oh, look, Panthers. What am I going to say here? Look,
980
00:43:07.179 --> 00:43:11.570
I think they're definitely the premiership favourites. While they've been
981
00:43:11.630 --> 00:43:14.480
shaky as well in the past, month or since origin
982
00:43:14.519 --> 00:43:17.219
that haven't been great i think their their troops have
983
00:43:17.380 --> 00:43:19.239
are back at the right time like that team list
984
00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:22.329
they've named for this week is like full strength like
985
00:43:22.469 --> 00:43:25.190
you know everyone's back it's amazing that they somehow get
986
00:43:25.230 --> 00:43:27.429
healthy at the right time of year so i think
987
00:43:27.469 --> 00:43:30.639
penrith um can definitely make it to a grand final
988
00:43:30.699 --> 00:43:31.599
and go all the way.
989
00:43:32.139 --> 00:43:35.039
Best team in the competition um i actually think they're
990
00:43:35.079 --> 00:43:37.639
going better than the last couple of weeks suggest because
991
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:39.880
i think that if you That Melbourne game, I think
992
00:43:39.900 --> 00:43:41.880
they were on track for a big score before Grant
993
00:43:41.920 --> 00:43:43.360
Atkins got a bit whistle-happy.
994
00:43:43.380 --> 00:43:45.480
He's had a bad couple of weeks, Grant Atkins. He's
995
00:43:45.500 --> 00:43:46.360
been shocking, hasn't he?
996
00:43:46.389 --> 00:43:48.150
Yeah. Well, I think Benji, I'll go Benji with a
997
00:43:48.210 --> 00:43:51.969
little over the top, but, you know, some fair points. But, look,
998
00:43:51.989 --> 00:43:54.690
I think Panthers, you know, would have put a big
999
00:43:54.730 --> 00:43:57.050
score on Melbourne. And just, they were happy just to
1000
00:43:57.090 --> 00:43:59.389
do enough against the Dogs. I don't think, I think
1001
00:43:59.409 --> 00:44:01.630
they knew they didn't need to put the foot down
1002
00:44:01.670 --> 00:44:04.150
too much and just got the job done. Coming good
1003
00:44:04.170 --> 00:44:09.800
at the right time of year, Panthers will win the comp. Okay. Warriors. Warriors.
1004
00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:12.590
Look, Warriors, I've been, unlike you, I have been impressed
1005
00:44:12.610 --> 00:44:16.210
with the Warriors over the last few weeks. They've just
1006
00:44:16.590 --> 00:44:19.909
managed to piss me off, Troy, because in that game
1007
00:44:19.929 --> 00:44:21.369
a couple of weeks ago where they just needed that
1008
00:44:21.469 --> 00:44:24.530
one point to leapfrog us, they got it. That game
1009
00:44:24.570 --> 00:44:26.449
last week, they needed a try in the last few
1010
00:44:26.489 --> 00:44:29.130
minutes to, again, leapfrog us. They got it. So they're
1011
00:44:29.150 --> 00:44:32.010
just doing these little things to annoy me and I
1012
00:44:32.030 --> 00:44:34.159
think they're going to keep annoying me throughout this final series.
1013
00:44:34.199 --> 00:44:35.940
I think they're definitely on their way to a prelim.
1014
00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:40.800
Having those Two home finals guaranteed in New Zealand is monstrous.
1015
00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:41.409
It's huge.
1016
00:44:42.289 --> 00:44:44.469
It would not surprise me if they do win their
1017
00:44:44.510 --> 00:44:46.989
prelim and get to a grand final. I think when
1018
00:44:47.010 --> 00:44:48.550
they come back to Sydney and are playing a grand
1019
00:44:48.570 --> 00:44:51.840
final against the Penrith or Dolphins or whoever, I don't
1020
00:44:51.880 --> 00:44:53.699
think they might probably not be able to win it.
1021
00:44:54.219 --> 00:44:56.019
I think the occasion might get to them, but I
1022
00:44:56.079 --> 00:44:58.099
think they have the potential to make a grand final.
1023
00:44:58.119 --> 00:44:58.940
All right.
1024
00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:02.440
Well, I think the Warriors... I was an OG warrior.
1025
00:45:02.780 --> 00:45:04.519
I thought they were going to go okay.
1026
00:45:04.539 --> 00:45:06.960
You were a Brandy Alexander warrior, one of the first.
1027
00:45:06.980 --> 00:45:09.389
They're going to fall over here in the finals, the Warriors.
1028
00:45:10.090 --> 00:45:12.530
Do not like their defense at all. And I think
1029
00:45:12.670 --> 00:45:14.050
some of their issues are going to catch up with them.
1030
00:45:14.110 --> 00:45:16.989
So I've got Warriors out in straight sets.
1031
00:45:17.150 --> 00:45:21.010
Straight sets? You think two New Zealand games? They're going
1032
00:45:21.030 --> 00:45:22.670
to lose this weekend. They're going to lose the next
1033
00:45:22.730 --> 00:45:24.570
three in New Zealand. That's a huge call.
1034
00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:26.139
I will say it does depend who they're playing. I
1035
00:45:26.159 --> 00:45:27.500
think if they have to play the Dolphins, I think
1036
00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:29.420
the Dolphins might get them. But I think if they
1037
00:45:29.440 --> 00:45:31.539
play the Roosters, then they get through to a prelim.
1038
00:45:31.659 --> 00:45:33.329
Because I think the Roosters might be done. But, oh,
1039
00:45:33.369 --> 00:45:36.329
maybe they're not done. I don't know.
1040
00:45:36.449 --> 00:45:37.769
You've got the Rabideaus, don't forget.
1041
00:45:37.829 --> 00:45:39.599
I've got the Rabideaus in there. Yep, so Warriors out.
1042
00:45:39.639 --> 00:45:42.099
There you go. Straight sex. All right, it is time
1043
00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:45.199
for Rugby League Recommendations. We make a recommendation. It could
1044
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:47.869
be anything. It could be food. You had a drama
1045
00:45:47.889 --> 00:45:50.570
with your recommendation last week. It was so popular that
1046
00:45:50.969 --> 00:45:51.289
your item.
1047
00:45:51.309 --> 00:45:52.889
I don't know if it was so popular or it's
1048
00:45:53.010 --> 00:45:54.989
not popular, and they decided not to make it anymore,
1049
00:45:55.010 --> 00:45:57.170
but my falafel wrap wasn't there, so what did I
1050
00:45:57.210 --> 00:45:58.969
have to go? I had to resort to rolls, the
1051
00:45:58.989 --> 00:45:59.909
Vietnamese rolls.
1052
00:46:00.349 --> 00:46:00.989
Oh, jeez.
1053
00:46:01.030 --> 00:46:02.469
I was so hungry when I got home that I
1054
00:46:02.469 --> 00:46:03.969
had to make myself a bowl of Weet-Bix.
1055
00:46:04.309 --> 00:46:04.550
Really?
1056
00:46:04.570 --> 00:46:05.909
Because I was still hungry, yeah.
1057
00:46:05.929 --> 00:46:08.389
I had to get a nice feed of the wool pack.
1058
00:46:09.409 --> 00:46:10.579
You like the old wool pack, don't you?
1059
00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:10.840
I love that.
1060
00:46:11.199 --> 00:46:13.239
Rugby League recommendations this week. You know what I'm throwing you, Nathan?
1061
00:46:14.059 --> 00:46:15.639
I'm throwing you a whole radio station.
1062
00:46:15.980 --> 00:46:16.880
Whole radio station.
1063
00:46:17.320 --> 00:46:19.969
And that is SCN 1170. I still think not enough
1064
00:46:19.989 --> 00:46:23.190
people know and not enough Rugby League fans have switched on.
1065
00:46:23.869 --> 00:46:26.050
to the fact that we essentially have a 24 seven
1066
00:46:26.090 --> 00:46:30.010
rugby league radio station in, uh, in Sydney. Um, and
1067
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:32.980
it's got me away from pretty much any other radio. I'm,
1068
00:46:33.059 --> 00:46:35.559
I'm SCN, um, all the way, all the way. Um,
1069
00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:38.820
you got, you got Brandy and Jimmy in the morning. Uh,
1070
00:46:38.860 --> 00:46:41.019
you got Vossi hosting the morning show. Adam Peacock does
1071
00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:44.250
afternoons and then Joel Cain and, Brian Fletcher in the
1072
00:46:44.530 --> 00:46:48.230
drive time slot. All the breaking news, all the analysis,
1073
00:46:48.329 --> 00:46:50.880
all the journos are on there. If you haven't switched
1074
00:46:50.909 --> 00:46:56.340
onto it, SCN 1170 AM. It's, you know, rugby league radio.
1075
00:46:56.380 --> 00:46:58.179
You know, you've been convincing me to get that in
1076
00:46:58.219 --> 00:47:01.000
my car for years. It's still not loaded in my car.
1077
00:47:01.019 --> 00:47:02.840
Why wouldn't you want to listen to rugby league radio?
1078
00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:03.980
Rugby league news.
1079
00:47:04.119 --> 00:47:07.269
I'm not in the car enough. I quit radio back
1080
00:47:07.389 --> 00:47:09.969
in March the 3rd. I quit radio for life. And
1081
00:47:10.210 --> 00:47:11.030
if you know, you know.
1082
00:47:11.050 --> 00:47:13.320
Well, you could have made the switch to... to the
1083
00:47:13.340 --> 00:47:14.590
great SEN.
1084
00:47:15.389 --> 00:47:18.369
No, I'm paying my $ 99 for KSLive now. It's for free.
1085
00:47:18.389 --> 00:47:21.429
This is free, SEN. So, that's my rugby league recommendation
1086
00:47:21.449 --> 00:47:22.530
for this week. What about you, Nathan?
1087
00:47:22.690 --> 00:47:26.789
Look, mine's a bit of a silly one, Troy. Very silly, actually,
1088
00:47:26.829 --> 00:47:30.880
in fact. My recommendation is to not take seriously or
1089
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:32.119
not follow the rugby league mole.
1090
00:47:32.900 --> 00:47:35.920
Okay, good. Yes. Block him.
1091
00:47:36.019 --> 00:47:39.500
Look, Tremendous guy, I'm sure. He's been around the game
1092
00:47:39.559 --> 00:47:43.760
for decades and decades. He's kind to us sometimes. Troy,
1093
00:47:43.820 --> 00:47:46.199
he'll sometimes give us a plug if he reads something
1094
00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:48.400
in the Masked Panther or one of our yarns and
1095
00:47:48.480 --> 00:47:50.940
gets a bit of gossip and put out there. But
1096
00:47:51.099 --> 00:47:53.030
some of the things he puts on his social media,
1097
00:47:53.050 --> 00:47:56.630
particularly on Facebook, is very trolling and he knows it too.
1098
00:47:57.550 --> 00:48:00.070
I've got a good authority that he makes a lot
1099
00:48:00.130 --> 00:48:03.130
of money per day on the trolling because.
1100
00:48:04.320 --> 00:48:06.780
I know other content creators that are making money off
1101
00:48:06.800 --> 00:48:12.300
Facebook and who know the mole and is allegedly the
1102
00:48:12.340 --> 00:48:17.239
moles making $ 60 US a day on his content. So
1103
00:48:17.500 --> 00:48:19.880
the trolling that he puts out, the silly things like
1104
00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:21.480
the other day, I think he said, is it fair
1105
00:48:21.500 --> 00:48:25.960
that the Pampers have to play after the Warriors? Hundreds
1106
00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:28.079
of comments, right? He knows what he's doing. He's a
1107
00:48:28.139 --> 00:48:30.460
smart man. He's a clever man. He's gone from being
1108
00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:33.489
one of the, like a revered journalist, I guess. He
1109
00:48:33.550 --> 00:48:35.760
used to have all the scoops, you know, probably about
1110
00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:39.219
10 years ago. He was like the guy, like scoop
1111
00:48:39.260 --> 00:48:41.659
machine when he was working for Rugby League Week. But
1112
00:48:41.699 --> 00:48:44.900
now he just does anything he can to stir the pot.
1113
00:48:45.059 --> 00:48:47.619
He does put out the odd good posts here and there.
1114
00:48:47.940 --> 00:48:50.440
He's a good man, I'm sure. He's a legend of
1115
00:48:50.460 --> 00:48:53.179
the game, but you've just got to take everything he
1116
00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:56.099
puts up there as a grain of salt, and it's
1117
00:48:56.139 --> 00:48:57.139
a money-making thing for him.
1118
00:48:57.500 --> 00:48:59.320
I don't follow him, so... You don't follow him? I
1119
00:48:59.320 --> 00:49:01.619
don't see it, but I see when you guys post
1120
00:49:01.639 --> 00:49:03.369
stuff on him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I unfollowed him
1121
00:49:03.489 --> 00:49:05.989
ages ago. You idiot. There you go, Mo. Put that
1122
00:49:06.030 --> 00:49:09.030
in your... Get that some posts. A couple of things
1123
00:49:09.050 --> 00:49:12.000
I want to touch on. Jet Cleary. So, obviously, great
1124
00:49:12.019 --> 00:49:14.159
scenes last week. And you know why I was ultra
1125
00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:16.500
impressed with Jet Cleary's debut? And it wasn't the weird
1126
00:49:16.519 --> 00:49:18.940
statistic about Tri-Assist, given that we've only been keeping those
1127
00:49:18.960 --> 00:49:22.199
statistics for 20 years, and the fact that Tim Smith
1128
00:49:22.260 --> 00:49:24.659
was the person he equaled. So, I don't know. Oh,
1129
00:49:24.699 --> 00:49:28.880
that's a bit mean. I'm not worried about Tri-Assist on debut.
1130
00:49:28.920 --> 00:49:34.099
Brandy probably had eight. But there had been some talk,
1131
00:49:34.119 --> 00:49:37.659
some whispers, that Jet just didn't quite have it. He
1132
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:42.309
didn't quite have the same enthusiasm is not the right word,
1133
00:49:42.329 --> 00:49:45.230
but the same ticker for rugby league that, say, Nathan does.
1134
00:49:45.750 --> 00:49:49.579
Because as we know, Nathan's not necessarily the most naturally
1135
00:49:49.619 --> 00:49:51.699
gifted player, but he works harder than anyone else, and
1136
00:49:51.739 --> 00:49:53.619
he sees the game a bit slower than everyone else.
1137
00:49:54.139 --> 00:49:55.920
But that just proved that Jed obviously has been putting
1138
00:49:55.940 --> 00:49:59.139
in the work to see that kind of performance. And look,
1139
00:49:59.159 --> 00:50:00.579
if he does come to Penrith next year, which we
1140
00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:04.909
still haven't had confirmed, but we think he's definitely happening, geez,
1141
00:50:04.929 --> 00:50:07.110
if I was Blaise Talangi, I'd be a little worried
1142
00:50:07.130 --> 00:50:10.110
about where my... Number six jersey is going to go.
1143
00:50:10.429 --> 00:50:13.369
Yeah, look. Yeah, I would be very worried if I
1144
00:50:13.409 --> 00:50:15.190
was Blaze. He can't even... Poor thing can't even get
1145
00:50:15.230 --> 00:50:17.730
in the team now, which is a shame for him. But, look,
1146
00:50:18.050 --> 00:50:22.280
I liken this scenario to Jessica and Naomi Fox, Troy.
1147
00:50:22.380 --> 00:50:22.659
Okay.
1148
00:50:22.860 --> 00:50:28.800
Okay? Jessica Fox being the five-, six-time Olympic champion, you know,
1149
00:50:28.820 --> 00:50:32.760
won stacks of gold medals, world champion time and time over.
1150
00:50:32.780 --> 00:50:36.639
Then her sister, a few years younger than her, probably
1151
00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:36.960
not as.
1152
00:50:39.059 --> 00:50:42.800
Decorated as Jess goes in every event like Jess does
1153
00:50:42.840 --> 00:50:45.179
but just doesn't make it to the podium and things
1154
00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:48.519
like that. It's very hard to, I never had a
1155
00:50:48.780 --> 00:50:50.360
brother or sister or anything like that, but it's very
1156
00:50:50.400 --> 00:50:52.559
hard to obviously live in their shadow, you know.
1157
00:50:52.579 --> 00:50:57.179
There is no brother, brother combo, where they're both equally
1158
00:50:57.219 --> 00:50:58.239
as good. One is always.
1159
00:50:58.280 --> 00:50:59.219
Andrew, Matthew, John.
1160
00:50:59.380 --> 00:51:00.719
One is always better than the other. Exactly.
1161
00:51:00.929 --> 00:51:02.710
And I think that's the scenario here. It'd be very
1162
00:51:02.750 --> 00:51:06.849
difficult to be Jet, I think, like the pressure that
1163
00:51:06.909 --> 00:51:09.610
comes with, you know, being Nathan Cleary's brother and people
1164
00:51:09.650 --> 00:51:12.510
are expecting you to be just like him. That's why
1165
00:51:12.590 --> 00:51:15.329
he got sent over to the Warriors. He was with
1166
00:51:15.349 --> 00:51:18.110
Penrith for his whole career and got sent over there. Hey,
1167
00:51:18.289 --> 00:51:21.070
be on your own, carve your own path. I think
1168
00:51:21.110 --> 00:51:22.969
it's a little bit weird that he's coming back. Like,
1169
00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:25.000
cool that he wants to come back and play with
1170
00:51:25.139 --> 00:51:28.739
his brother and be under Ivan for a year. But
1171
00:51:28.920 --> 00:51:31.400
he wasn't getting the opportunities at the Warriors. I think
1172
00:51:31.420 --> 00:51:33.719
it's a little bit funny that they finally gave him
1173
00:51:33.739 --> 00:51:37.010
a shot. He was excellent. And then, you know, now
1174
00:51:37.050 --> 00:51:39.449
he's going to go and he probably won't, unlikely to
1175
00:51:39.489 --> 00:51:41.349
see first grade again until he comes to Penrith.
1176
00:51:41.369 --> 00:51:41.469
Yeah.
1177
00:51:42.210 --> 00:51:45.949
One thing that... It'll help him now coming back to
1178
00:51:45.969 --> 00:51:49.030
Penrith because when you look at that brother-sister scenario and,
1179
00:51:49.369 --> 00:51:52.780
you know, different brothers, even though we'd say, OK, Tom
1180
00:51:52.820 --> 00:51:55.780
is the brother between Tom and Jake and Andrew was
1181
00:51:55.800 --> 00:51:57.719
the brother, but when you're playing in the same team,
1182
00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:00.880
the pressure's a little less because you're not coming up
1183
00:52:00.920 --> 00:52:03.159
against each other a couple of times a year, your
1184
00:52:03.179 --> 00:52:05.159
teams aren't in different spots of the ladder and all
1185
00:52:05.179 --> 00:52:07.679
that sort of stuff. When you're together, it's probably a
1186
00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:09.969
bit easier and I think that Jet, hopefully, he's found
1187
00:52:10.170 --> 00:52:14.690
some maturity and some... He's definitely found some skill set
1188
00:52:15.010 --> 00:52:16.860
over in the Warriors and he's going to bring that
1189
00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:18.820
to Penrith. So I'm excited about it.
1190
00:52:18.840 --> 00:52:20.820
He was awesome. Yeah, I was excited about it too.
1191
00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:22.739
A great debut. And he had some fun and the
1192
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:24.559
family aspect made it special as well.
1193
00:52:25.159 --> 00:52:28.980
But people do have great debuts, Troy, and then struggle
1194
00:52:29.099 --> 00:52:29.539
after that.
1195
00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:32.670
They certainly do. So we'll see. We'll see. Don't count
1196
00:52:32.690 --> 00:52:35.360
your chickens. But I was impressed given... That I had
1197
00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:37.420
heard that maybe Jet didn't quite have it. And then
1198
00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:38.159
looking at that.
1199
00:52:38.219 --> 00:52:40.579
Well, growing up, yes, we know people that were his
1200
00:52:40.619 --> 00:52:43.300
teachers at school and watched his schoolboy footy. And yeah,
1201
00:52:43.340 --> 00:52:46.610
he obviously didn't have the same skill set as Nathan.
1202
00:52:46.769 --> 00:52:48.590
And the same determination is probably the word I was
1203
00:52:48.610 --> 00:52:50.969
looking for before. But maybe he's found that because he
1204
00:52:51.010 --> 00:52:52.210
looked pretty sharp.
1205
00:52:52.309 --> 00:52:52.469
Yeah.
1206
00:52:53.090 --> 00:52:55.849
All right, the last thing on the agenda, ground announcers. Nathan,
1207
00:52:55.889 --> 00:52:58.070
have you heard about this story out of the Broncos?
1208
00:52:58.289 --> 00:52:59.889
I've read a little bit about it, yes.
1209
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:02.460
So the Storm were very unhappy. Now, I find that
1210
00:53:02.699 --> 00:53:05.920
extraordinary because they play this cowbell thing at Amy Park
1211
00:53:06.099 --> 00:53:10.340
like every second, and yet they're complaining because the... The
1212
00:53:10.380 --> 00:53:14.179
ground announcer, who's Alex Glenn, I believe, the former Broncos champion,
1213
00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:18.019
whenever there was a bomb going up, he would make noise.
1214
00:53:18.219 --> 00:53:20.019
What do you mean? Do you know what noise he's making?
1215
00:53:20.039 --> 00:53:23.119
I think he'd go like, whoa, like that classic thing
1216
00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:27.219
that a fan would do. And the Warriors, the Storm
1217
00:53:27.239 --> 00:53:29.869
have lodged a complaint about this, and the NRL apparently
1218
00:53:29.889 --> 00:53:33.130
has put out a little email this week just reminding
1219
00:53:33.190 --> 00:53:36.090
ground announcers. Now, this follows, of course, the Roosters complaining
1220
00:53:36.130 --> 00:53:38.869
about Josh Mansour a few weeks ago, claiming that that
1221
00:53:38.889 --> 00:53:41.269
Josh was offering coaching assistance.
1222
00:53:41.309 --> 00:53:43.570
But unlike Alex Glenn, who was probably in a box,
1223
00:53:43.590 --> 00:53:44.829
Josh was on the sideline, right?
1224
00:53:44.849 --> 00:53:47.989
Yes, and they believed that he was coaching Thomas Jenkins. Like,
1225
00:53:48.280 --> 00:53:52.679
stand over there, Tom. Like, which was ridiculous. So, yeah,
1226
00:53:52.719 --> 00:53:57.019
I don't know. What do you think? You know, can
1227
00:53:57.059 --> 00:53:59.280
a ground announce across the line? Or do you think it's, no,
1228
00:53:59.340 --> 00:54:02.079
come on. Because, you know, my actual frame of mind is,
1229
00:54:02.860 --> 00:54:04.940
make it, go for your life.
1230
00:54:05.420 --> 00:54:05.639
Really?
1231
00:54:05.659 --> 00:54:07.980
Absolutely go for your life. Make me feel, if I'm
1232
00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:13.659
a visiting... I'm happy for you to make my experience uncomfortable.
1233
00:54:14.500 --> 00:54:19.480
Look, I somewhat agree with you, Troy. I think, you know,
1234
00:54:19.559 --> 00:54:23.440
if it's your home, you want to make it as whatever,
1235
00:54:23.900 --> 00:54:27.130
as scary as possible and intimidating as possible. And whether
1236
00:54:27.170 --> 00:54:31.230
that's with sound effects or music or lighting or people going,
1237
00:54:31.309 --> 00:54:36.280
doing crazy things, that's fine. But in play... I think
1238
00:54:36.579 --> 00:54:39.039
that's where it sort of crosses the line a little bit.
1239
00:54:39.059 --> 00:54:41.519
It becomes a bit Mickey Mouse, like, in play. You
1240
00:54:41.539 --> 00:54:44.119
could do anything. You could jump on the mic and, yeah,
1241
00:54:44.139 --> 00:54:48.090
you could actually scare the players out there. Like, turn
1242
00:54:48.119 --> 00:54:50.349
up the mic, go, rah, just before he's about to
1243
00:54:50.389 --> 00:54:53.050
catch it. Like, what are we doing here if that's
1244
00:54:53.090 --> 00:54:55.710
what this Alex Gladen character is doing? Like, we can't
1245
00:54:55.730 --> 00:54:57.710
be doing that. I think you want to make the
1246
00:54:57.750 --> 00:55:01.789
atmosphere as intimidating as possible, but you can't be, like,
1247
00:55:01.849 --> 00:55:04.750
distracting the players, right? Like, that's silly.
1248
00:55:05.079 --> 00:55:06.760
You're probably right, but I will say we need to
1249
00:55:06.820 --> 00:55:09.289
be careful here because as part of this, it also
1250
00:55:09.329 --> 00:55:12.969
got revealed, the Broncos have been told to stop referring
1251
00:55:13.010 --> 00:55:17.130
to the Dolphins as Redcliffe on the scoreboard. Oh, that's
1252
00:55:17.210 --> 00:55:17.969
just a bit of fun.
1253
00:55:17.989 --> 00:55:19.250
That's not hurting anyone.
1254
00:55:19.449 --> 00:55:21.559
We had this issue earlier in the year where the
1255
00:55:21.599 --> 00:55:24.199
visiting team, the Rabbitohs, I think, or whoever was the
1256
00:55:24.239 --> 00:55:26.780
host team, they called the other one the visiting team.
1257
00:55:26.880 --> 00:55:29.650
That's okay. But apparently they're not doing it this Friday
1258
00:55:29.730 --> 00:55:31.449
night because, oh, we've had an agreement now.
1259
00:55:31.469 --> 00:55:32.360
Oh, well, that's silly.
1260
00:55:32.400 --> 00:55:33.219
That's just a little bit of.
1261
00:55:33.239 --> 00:55:34.460
Come on. That's not upsetting anyone.
1262
00:55:34.500 --> 00:55:37.519
You want to make, like, you want to make your
1263
00:55:37.599 --> 00:55:40.179
home ground. Just like, you know, we still do it now.
1264
00:55:40.239 --> 00:55:42.219
We don't announce the away team's coming out and it's
1265
00:55:42.260 --> 00:55:44.510
come out. Like, we don't say, let's welcome the Bulldogs.
1266
00:55:44.550 --> 00:55:46.409
Yeah, well, we used to, like, read out their team
1267
00:55:46.429 --> 00:55:46.829
list as well.
1268
00:55:46.849 --> 00:55:48.210
Yeah, so we still... Yeah, do we not even put
1269
00:55:48.250 --> 00:55:48.769
up their team list?
1270
00:55:48.789 --> 00:55:49.570
No, I don't think so.
1271
00:55:49.590 --> 00:55:49.889
Yeah, okay.
1272
00:55:50.610 --> 00:55:50.679
Um.
1273
00:55:51.449 --> 00:55:54.280
They just come out. Off they come. And we're like,
1274
00:55:54.489 --> 00:55:57.159
no respect. We don't want to show them respect. So
1275
00:55:57.179 --> 00:55:59.760
we've got to be careful here that we don't continue
1276
00:55:59.800 --> 00:56:01.380
to create this stale environment.
1277
00:56:01.420 --> 00:56:02.099
Yeah, I agree with that.
1278
00:56:02.320 --> 00:56:03.840
Why do you want to go to the game? I
1279
00:56:03.900 --> 00:56:07.480
want to go to another team's ground. Like when I
1280
00:56:07.539 --> 00:56:10.179
used to go to a lot more away grounds, I
1281
00:56:10.239 --> 00:56:12.820
loved going there for what was a totally different experience.
1282
00:56:13.219 --> 00:56:15.070
If I go somewhere and it's the same experience I
1283
00:56:15.090 --> 00:56:16.489
have as a home ground, why would I bother?
1284
00:56:17.300 --> 00:56:20.400
Should there be some consultation with the home team, though? Like,
1285
00:56:20.940 --> 00:56:23.539
does the ground announcer get in with Ivan and the
1286
00:56:23.559 --> 00:56:26.380
captains of the... Like, what are you happy for us
1287
00:56:26.440 --> 00:56:29.119
to do? Because that might piss some of the home
1288
00:56:29.159 --> 00:56:30.800
team off, too, some of the things that carries on,
1289
00:56:30.800 --> 00:56:30.960
you know?
1290
00:56:30.980 --> 00:56:35.530
Do you think there should be a meeting? Josh Mansell, Lindsay... Lyndall, sorry.
1291
00:56:35.550 --> 00:56:38.010
Glenn Hawke. Glenn Hawke, when he's available.
1292
00:56:38.190 --> 00:56:39.050
Yeah, when he's available.
1293
00:56:39.070 --> 00:56:41.050
Get in there with Ivan and just say, oh, here's
1294
00:56:41.070 --> 00:56:43.630
what we're thinking this week, you know? I'm thinking about
1295
00:56:43.650 --> 00:56:45.170
giving Tom some help.
1296
00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:47.780
Yeah, we're just like, what are the boundaries that you're
1297
00:56:47.820 --> 00:56:49.619
happy for us to do? Because at the end of
1298
00:56:49.639 --> 00:56:51.789
the day, you want to piss off the visiting team,
1299
00:56:51.809 --> 00:56:55.530
but do you want to annoy the home team as well?
1300
00:56:55.550 --> 00:56:58.050
Because people used to get annoyed with Scott McRae a
1301
00:56:58.090 --> 00:57:00.469
lot over the years, like he did for 20 years.
1302
00:57:01.489 --> 00:57:03.969
People would be screaming around, Scott, shut up.
1303
00:57:04.329 --> 00:57:06.909
Linking back to a previous segment, Rugby League Recommendations, this
1304
00:57:06.949 --> 00:57:09.760
came up as a topic. as you would expect on
1305
00:57:09.800 --> 00:57:13.059
Vossi's show, because this is Vossi's wheelhouse, you know, random things.
1306
00:57:13.139 --> 00:57:13.340
Yeah.
1307
00:57:13.579 --> 00:57:16.019
And so then they start, then the calls flooded in about,
1308
00:57:16.099 --> 00:57:18.369
can we stop playing music at scrums?
1309
00:57:18.730 --> 00:57:19.610
No, that's fine.
1310
00:57:19.630 --> 00:57:22.889
It's interesting what different fans' expectations are. Yeah. Like, as
1311
00:57:22.929 --> 00:57:24.789
I imagine, if I think about my, if my mum
1312
00:57:24.809 --> 00:57:26.409
went to the footy, I don't think she wants to
1313
00:57:26.429 --> 00:57:30.519
hear the music. Really? Where I look at it, I'm
1314
00:57:30.539 --> 00:57:33.469
not here nor there. A younger person probably wants that, though.
1315
00:57:33.730 --> 00:57:35.610
Somebody who's 20 right now probably says, no, this should be.
1316
00:57:35.750 --> 00:57:37.409
Well, yeah, you've got to create some atmosphere.
1317
00:57:37.550 --> 00:57:39.250
Like, we've got a DJ, don't we, at Conbank Stadium? Like,
1318
00:57:39.269 --> 00:57:39.730
what are they doing?
1319
00:57:39.750 --> 00:57:40.170
A DJ?
1320
00:57:40.210 --> 00:57:42.570
I could be a DJ. Open up a Spotify account.
1321
00:57:42.590 --> 00:57:43.690
The Kids FM DJ.
1322
00:57:44.250 --> 00:57:44.789
Please.
1323
00:57:44.809 --> 00:57:46.449
That's all they can do these days over at Kids.
1324
00:57:46.469 --> 00:57:49.170
I know AI is after a lot of jobs. But
1325
00:57:49.230 --> 00:57:51.980
surely the DJ is done. Can I just declare this?
1326
00:57:52.360 --> 00:57:52.440
Hmm.
1327
00:57:52.889 --> 00:57:53.880
It's the DJ.
1328
00:57:53.900 --> 00:57:55.980
Oh, you mean done as in done. Like you go
1329
00:57:56.000 --> 00:57:58.400
to a nightclub in the city, you just want like
1330
00:57:58.440 --> 00:58:00.199
a little iPod there just spinning around.
1331
00:58:00.219 --> 00:58:02.860
Isn't that what they're doing anyway? Aren't they just pretending?
1332
00:58:03.199 --> 00:58:05.340
No, I believe they are picking the tracks to the
1333
00:58:05.389 --> 00:58:07.369
vibe of the crowd and mixing them in and you.
1334
00:58:07.630 --> 00:58:09.670
Would think so. You think DJ Dan or whatever his
1335
00:58:09.710 --> 00:58:12.510
name is at... Penrith Stadium, Conbank Stadium.
1336
00:58:12.530 --> 00:58:12.949
DJ Kiss.
1337
00:58:13.739 --> 00:58:15.400
Where is he anyway? Oh, yeah.
1338
00:58:15.420 --> 00:58:16.539
You can't see him from where you are.
1339
00:58:16.599 --> 00:58:17.619
No. Oh, okay.
1340
00:58:17.639 --> 00:58:20.760
So, he's like in the corner. Just as you walk in.
1341
00:58:20.780 --> 00:58:21.949
It's that entrance where you walk in.
1342
00:58:21.969 --> 00:58:22.050
Yeah.
1343
00:58:22.199 --> 00:58:23.090
Where we all walk in.
1344
00:58:23.110 --> 00:58:23.409
Yeah.
1345
00:58:23.550 --> 00:58:25.429
Pretty much if you kept going straight through there, like
1346
00:58:25.469 --> 00:58:28.409
where the Panther, disgusting Panther hot dogs are.
1347
00:58:28.429 --> 00:58:28.500
Yes.
1348
00:58:28.670 --> 00:58:28.829
Yes.
1349
00:58:29.460 --> 00:58:31.119
There's like a little DJ booth, and you can actually
1350
00:58:31.199 --> 00:58:32.659
see it's all lit up, KISS and stuff like that.
1351
00:58:32.679 --> 00:58:33.659
Do you take recommendations?
1352
00:58:34.219 --> 00:58:36.960
Does he take requests? Sure, I haven't gone over there.
1353
00:58:37.039 --> 00:58:38.679
Hank Williams doing something like that?
1354
00:58:38.940 --> 00:58:40.599
They did play a lot of Dolly last week, though,
1355
00:58:40.639 --> 00:58:43.320
because I was messaging our friend Chris Middleton. I said,
1356
00:58:43.840 --> 00:58:45.920
they played like three or four Dolly songs during the game,
1357
00:58:45.940 --> 00:58:46.639
which was nice.
1358
00:58:46.780 --> 00:58:49.650
Yeah. Yeah, look, I think I do agree. A lot
1359
00:58:49.670 --> 00:58:52.210
of people rang up and said, look, can we put...
1360
00:58:52.360 --> 00:58:54.119
Sweet Caroline out the pasture for a while.
1361
00:58:54.199 --> 00:58:55.340
Oh, that needs to go.
1362
00:58:55.679 --> 00:58:56.739
Take Me Home Country Roads.
1363
00:58:56.780 --> 00:58:56.940
Gone.
1364
00:58:56.960 --> 00:58:57.760
We'll put that out for a while.
1365
00:58:57.800 --> 00:58:59.639
You're the voice. John Farnes, gone.
1366
00:59:00.239 --> 00:59:01.690
So, look, there might be a few that we could say.
1367
00:59:01.699 --> 00:59:03.219
We need some new anthems. But, look, we're almost at
1368
00:59:03.239 --> 00:59:05.889
the finals, so we'll be back to that crowd noise meter. Well,
1369
00:59:05.909 --> 00:59:08.610
that's legitimate. Yep. You know, where they, oh, yep.
1370
00:59:08.750 --> 00:59:09.730
Yeah, yes, yes.
1371
00:59:10.659 --> 00:59:14.159
Good news. That's all legitimate. You know, the Viking, the
1372
00:59:14.199 --> 00:59:15.500
horn thing at Canberra, that's legitimate.
1373
00:59:15.619 --> 00:59:16.579
That's been retired, I think.
1374
00:59:16.599 --> 00:59:20.260
See, isn't Canberra a great example? Everyone went nuts about
1375
00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:21.960
the Viking clap, whether you like it or not, but
1376
00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:24.820
that's now uniquely Canberra. It is. And you need to
1377
00:59:24.860 --> 00:59:27.159
have something unique. So, let's be careful here. Maybe Alex
1378
00:59:27.179 --> 00:59:29.420
Glenn should calm down a bit. I'm sure he's read
1379
00:59:29.440 --> 00:59:29.840
the emails.
1380
00:59:30.860 --> 00:59:33.309
Um, Well, fortunately for him, he doesn't have another game
1381
00:59:33.329 --> 00:59:34.219
until next year now.
1382
00:59:34.409 --> 00:59:36.800
Well, this is just another scandal for the Broncos in
1383
00:59:36.820 --> 00:59:39.239
the ground announcing world, because I think they axed their ground,
1384
00:59:39.260 --> 00:59:42.059
like a Scott McRae-like incident. Oh, yeah? At the end
1385
00:59:42.079 --> 00:59:45.800
of last season, their premiership winning year. Oh, right. And
1386
00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:48.219
they axed their long-term ground announcer, because he used to
1387
00:59:48.239 --> 00:59:50.389
put videos up, like on TikTok, of him doing the,
1388
00:59:50.409 --> 00:59:52.590
you know, some ground announcers do that. He used to
1389
00:59:52.630 --> 00:59:54.389
do that, and I was, you know, I was always
1390
00:59:54.409 --> 00:59:57.429
interested in it. And they dumped him, and obviously Alex
1391
00:59:57.449 --> 00:59:58.389
Glenn is who they got in.
1392
00:59:59.170 --> 00:59:59.769
There you go.
1393
00:59:59.969 --> 01:00:01.110
Surprise, they don't fly Glenn Hawke up.
1394
01:00:02.289 --> 01:00:03.550
He's got enough jobs, I think, Glenn.
1395
01:00:03.570 --> 01:00:03.780
He does.
1396
01:00:03.820 --> 01:00:05.110
He fills in on SEN.
1397
01:00:05.460 --> 01:00:06.519
He's on the radio as well.
1398
01:00:06.539 --> 01:00:08.590
Yeah, he fills in. He's a fill-in when someone's sick,
1399
01:00:08.610 --> 01:00:09.090
dead or injured.
1400
01:00:09.110 --> 01:00:10.070
He's a gun for hire.
1401
01:00:10.510 --> 01:00:16.030
And he does about six grand-announcing jobs. Now, Nathan, a
1402
01:00:16.050 --> 01:00:18.309
few things just to finish off. Have you heard anything?
1403
01:00:18.329 --> 01:00:20.130
Will we be able to buy our own seat at
1404
01:00:20.150 --> 01:00:20.610
the finals?
1405
01:00:20.829 --> 01:00:22.670
Oh, no, I haven't heard anything like that yet. I
1406
01:00:22.730 --> 01:00:25.090
am going down to Panthers this afternoon to chat to
1407
01:00:25.110 --> 01:00:27.380
some players. Yep. I finally got a media session on
1408
01:00:27.389 --> 01:00:30.480
this week. So let me find out for you guys today.
1409
01:00:30.500 --> 01:00:35.559
Okay. Minor Premiership t-shirt. If Penrith win the Minor Premiership,
1410
01:00:35.599 --> 01:00:38.179
there will be a t-shirt released. There won't be a
1411
01:00:38.239 --> 01:00:42.070
final shirt, though. So the club will release a... The
1412
01:00:42.150 --> 01:00:45.559
club will release a Minor Premiers t-shirt. If not, then
1413
01:00:45.599 --> 01:00:47.539
it's just that one that's floating around on some of
1414
01:00:47.559 --> 01:00:50.800
the fan websites, the final series shirt. That one's out there,
1415
01:00:50.840 --> 01:00:53.340
but yeah, they'll only be that. And Merv Cartwright medal
1416
01:00:53.780 --> 01:00:55.659
confirmed for post-grand final.
1417
01:00:55.800 --> 01:00:58.300
Yep, the Tuesday after the grand final.
1418
01:00:58.420 --> 01:01:01.409
So the boys will be rolling in from a Premiership celebration.
1419
01:01:01.469 --> 01:01:01.909
We hope.
1420
01:01:02.090 --> 01:01:02.699
Let's hope so.
1421
01:01:02.739 --> 01:01:03.889
We've had that before, haven't we?
1422
01:01:04.250 --> 01:01:06.550
Yes, yes we have. I like it when they put
1423
01:01:06.590 --> 01:01:08.489
the move after the GF. Tells me a bit of confidence.
1424
01:01:08.730 --> 01:01:12.659
Do you think they ring Ivan? Ivan, how do we feel?
1425
01:01:13.019 --> 01:01:14.659
And I was like, I'd put it week after the GF.
1426
01:01:16.159 --> 01:01:18.599
Because last year they had it during the final series.
1427
01:01:19.019 --> 01:01:20.719
See, because when they rang him, he said, it's not
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looking good.
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01:01:21.030 --> 01:01:22.650
It was actually the lead up to week one, actually.
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01:01:22.670 --> 01:01:25.409
Yeah, so maybe he's thinking, sorry, it's not looking good.
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01:01:25.429 --> 01:01:26.530
We better have it after week one.
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01:01:26.630 --> 01:01:27.789
Yeah, we might not last too much longer.
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And there we were all the way into a prelim.
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All right, Pantus Tigers, are you going to be there
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01:01:31.659 --> 01:01:32.599
on Sunday afternoon? Yep.
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01:01:32.679 --> 01:01:34.820
Yeah, I've got confirmation. My uncle is coming with me.
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01:01:35.260 --> 01:01:38.360
Very good. It was a bit dicey there whether he
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01:01:38.389 --> 01:01:39.570
would come. He's coming.
1439
01:01:39.730 --> 01:01:41.309
I do know some of my group being rested.
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01:01:41.730 --> 01:01:42.510
They're being rested?
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01:01:42.590 --> 01:01:42.809
Yeah.
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01:01:42.909 --> 01:01:44.409
Oh, no.
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01:01:44.429 --> 01:01:46.150
So we'll have a limited number there.
1444
01:01:46.650 --> 01:01:49.289
You should come down and sit with us where it's
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01:01:49.329 --> 01:01:51.190
not as high. You won't need to bring your tissues.
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01:01:51.250 --> 01:01:53.269
I consider it. I like being up there, but it's
1447
01:01:53.309 --> 01:01:56.800
a little too high. A little too high. Yes. I'd
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01:01:56.820 --> 01:01:58.539
still like to be in that second tier, but a
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01:01:58.579 --> 01:01:58.920
bit lower.
1450
01:01:58.980 --> 01:02:00.219
Oh, you still like the second tier?
1451
01:02:00.260 --> 01:02:02.719
I like the second tier, yeah. But I'm not sure...
1452
01:02:02.739 --> 01:02:04.599
This is the first game I'm going to experience, I think,
1453
01:02:05.119 --> 01:02:07.619
with a bit of sun happening, right? Yeah, it will be.
1454
01:02:07.800 --> 01:02:10.090
Because we missed out on that first game of the year.
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01:02:10.110 --> 01:02:14.150
Yes. I'm going to bring some sunglasses. All right, well,
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01:02:14.190 --> 01:02:17.469
that is it for Tensions Are Running High this week.
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New episodes, of course, out every Wednesday. Visit westernweekender.com.au. Follow
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01:02:22.289 --> 01:02:24.590
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01:02:24.690 --> 01:02:26.690
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01:02:26.730 --> 01:02:28.750
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01:02:28.789 --> 01:02:30.889
can on the Apple App Store. That little glitch.
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01:02:30.949 --> 01:02:31.389
Is it back?
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01:02:31.449 --> 01:02:33.760
Is it fixed? Okay, good. I was a bit worried.
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01:02:33.780 --> 01:02:36.960
Bloody Apple. I'm a Samsung man.
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01:02:37.579 --> 01:02:38.440
We know.
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01:02:38.619 --> 01:02:41.940
We know. I like the team that tries hard. Like,
1467
01:02:42.199 --> 01:02:43.599
you know, Pepsi over Coke.
1468
01:02:44.579 --> 01:02:45.500
Yeah, you like the underdog.
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01:02:45.519 --> 01:02:48.380
I like the underdog. Not an obscure underdog, but the
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01:02:48.440 --> 01:02:51.380
one that's fine coming second. I'm Troy Dodds. Nathan, thanks
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01:02:51.400 --> 01:02:51.760
for joining me.
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01:02:51.780 --> 01:02:52.260
Thanks, Troy.
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01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:55.550
Thanks to Penrith City Automotive for their sponsorship. We will
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01:02:55.639 --> 01:02:59.710
see you next time on Tensions Running High. Go the Panthers!