Tension's Running High E90 - Ivan gets Frosty, Panthers v Bulldogs preview

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Now it's time for us Tension's Running High of Penrith
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Panthers podcast presented by The Western Weekend, brought to you
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by Penri City Automotive's Troy Does and Nathan Taylor.
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Hello everyone, and welcome to Tensions Running High Penry Panthers
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Podcast presented by the Western Weekend. That this is episode
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ninety and Troy Dodds joy by Nathan Taylor. Hello Nathan,
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Hello Troy. We are the voice of rugby league in
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Penrith and we love talking all things Penrith Panthers. For
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Panthers coverage here in Penny. We've covered six premierships, the
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the agenda. Today we previ with the Panthers versus Bulldogs,
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showdown the race for the minor Premiership and we discuss
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everything from the bunker to our finals wish list. But
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let's get underway and Nathan. This Friday Night, the other
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Panthers take on the Bulldogs. And look there's a lot
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on the line. Panthers still in the hunt for the
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minor premiership, still wanting to secure a home final of course,
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and the Dogs well mathematically they can still make the eight.
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Yeah, Troy, it's a very exciting clash. It's going to
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be good to be back at Combank for one of
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the last games there at our temporary home ground. Haven't
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had a Friday night game for a while out in
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Sydney as well, so yeah, thank god those Thursday night
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games are out of the way and I'm looking forward
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to this one for sure.
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Yeah. Now, of course the Bulldog's big upset winner for
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Penrith earlier in the year, but actually that was I
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know everyone talks about that, but that actually sparked a
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bit of a losing streak for them. Maybe we're on
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a losing streak after that. So I don't know what
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what we take out of the fact that they were
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able to beat Penrith earlier this year. Is that give
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them more of a chance to beat Penrith now or
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the Panthers go, well, hang on, we want one back
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for that one.
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It was a funny old night. I think it was
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a Thursday night game of course, and it was Nathan
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Cleary's two hundredth game. I'm not sure if there was
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any weather around that that night as well. It could
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have been one of those.
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I don't think so I was there, Actually we were there,
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didn't get maybe, but yeah, Penrith were on like a
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five game winning streak at the time too, so you know,
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maybe they would do for a bit of a letdown
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of a game.
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But yeah, sometimes teams, as we've seen in this ministy rum,
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can can shock Penrith from time to time and you're like, oh,
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we didn't see that coming, but yeah, you'd have to
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expect that Penrith are going to have the edge on
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the Bulldogs on Friday. They're fighting for a minor premiership
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spot here. They got lucky with the Tigers doing what
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they did to the roosters like that was phenomenal. We're
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texting the time and it was like watching a Penrith game,
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wasn't it that Tiger's Rooster's clash. So so I think
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Penoth have a lot on the line, but so are
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the Bulldogs. Of course they are in the hunt there
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with the Cowboys to get that last spot in the eight.
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Yeah, absolutely, and of course, yeah, the Bulldogs are they
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bet the Dragons last weekend. Now they probably just did
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enough to beat them. The Dragons actually, you know, if
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they had a bit more luck, not of might have
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gone all right there, But the Dogs always looked like
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they had at one similar to the Penrith performance against Melbourne,
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which we'll talk about in a moment. But look, it
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was good to get that win after a couple of
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weeks of losses and now it's put Penrith right back
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in the chances of a minor premiership.
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Yeah, it would have been good for Penoth to go
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on with it in the second half. Obviously the rain
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and the terrible officiating certainly played a role in the
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second half.
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Troy.
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I think they definitely brought Melbourne back into the game.
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And I don't know I could have I could see
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Penrith losing that one at the end, Like you were
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there in real life, and you're always a very confident guy.
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When you saw Melbourne coming towards you know in that
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last ten minutes, did you think, God, there's going to
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be an upset here.
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Not really, I think I would have needed. You know,
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there was a goal there that would have made it
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twenty two. Sixteen or something like that maybe, But nah,
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Like you know, I was pretty confident. I thought Penroth
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had done enough before the game got to be chaotic,
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you know, twenty two nil before we suddenly had a
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raft of sinbins and we also had the rain hit,
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which we know what happens to Penrith in the rain.
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They sort of know. It definitely slows things down. So
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I thought Peddroth had done enough. And I think you
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just got to take that first half an hour in
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isolation almost and say that, you know, we were pretty
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good on the night, and then just got the job done.
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That's what you've got to do. All you got to
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do is just get the job done. At this end
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of the year. You don't need to be flashy spectacular.
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That's something the Roosters could not do on Sunday.
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No, they didn't. They came into the game probably thinking
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they could just show up. And we know sometimes teams
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think they can just show up against lesser opposition like
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the Tigers and then get the win. But it's not
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always the case. But I don't know. I mean, obviously,
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had things gone differently with the weather, and obviously all
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the multiple sea bins and the six again calls with
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the referee on Saturday. I think it would have been
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nice for them to score some tries in the second
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half like that. That would have been good, right.
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Yeah, Look, of course I think you want to You's
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got points, But I.
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Just think that they could have put a big score on,
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you know, like they did in earlier in the season.
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Again, they well could have, but I think I think,
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you know, as I said, the rain coming down and
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the confusion around the sin beans and all of that
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sort of stuff, I can I can cop that that
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Penrith didn't necessarily go on with the job. It's been
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half an hour of the game without Sinbin being Yeah,
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that's a lot, right, Yeah, that's a that's a big impact. Now.
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The other big impact, of course is Jack Cogger, who
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submitted an early guilty plea to a high tackle charge
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three weeks on the sideline. Now, it doesn't matter that
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both Blade Slangy and Jack Cohla in the squad, because
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Ivan won't confirm who is actually going to wear the
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number six jumper or who is going to play five eighth,
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probably till an hour before kickoff. Even maybe we won't
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know who are you expecting He's going to run out
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beside Nathan Cleary on Friday night.
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Who am I expecting or who do I want?
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Two different people, two different people, give us both.
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Okay, well, I'm expecting Jack Cole to get the get
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the go ahead, just based on what I've just seen
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lately with Blaze not playing, getting dropped out of the
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side or not getting onto the field. We all, no
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one really knows what his plan is for Blaze. We
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Blaze knows. I haven't said in his presser on Monday
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that that only Blaze knows what the problem is. He
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won't tell anyone else. But that's why I think maybe
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Jack Cole I will get the knob. To be honest,
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I would love to see Blaze. I think he's got
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the X factor. I think he's got the attack. He's
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he's had some time out. I think he's ready to
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be unleashed again. I'm not sure how he's going to
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go on the defensive part of things, and that's probably
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we all think that's why he got dropped in the
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first place. But you know, he was going really well
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earlier in the year up until probably around the origin
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time things started to slow down for him. But he
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was putting on some great plays. He was finding confidence.
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He's had that little bit of X factor like Jerome
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Leui used to have with his running game. And I
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don't know. I think I think he just needs to
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be back in there. I watched the Sunday Footy Show
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the other day and Freddie and Billy Slater they both
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think that the Blaze is the best option at five eighth.
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Jack Cole's leaving to Perth next year. I don't know, Troy,
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what do you think now?
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Well, you know what, I actually have lost a bit
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of faith in Blaze, but and I'm not really sure
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that Blaze has a great future at Penrith. However, I
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would be putting him at five eighth this one for
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a couple of things that you just mentioned there. Number one,
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I think that the fact that Jack Cole is going
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now this is a bit different to a Villi Army kickout,
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or a Stephen Crichton who he knew were going but
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you know, or Jerome Lewi. But obviously they're in your
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top echelon of players, so you get the best out
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of the way he can Jack Cole. I don't know
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what Penrith get out of putting Jack Cole there. Given
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that there's no future there. So then I look at
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Blaze to lang In, I say, well, he's signed at
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least for another another season, so he's probably going to
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be hear unless something dramatic happens in the off season.
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And this is his time. He's been dropped. Now, this
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is his time to put him in there and say
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what will show us what you've got at the at
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the point the end of the season. And if Blaze
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can't make it happen in the next couple of weeks,
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well then obviously Jack Cogan comes back what week two
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or potentially three of the finals, depending on how Penrith
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going week one. So I think that's you go Blaze
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to Langey. But I do have this little feeling, like you, Nathan,
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that that Jack Cole is going to run out as
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the as the first option on Friday Night.
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It's I just don't know what I even like. No
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offense to Jack Cole. He's better football player than we
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ever will be. But what does Ivan see in Jack Cole?
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Do you think that he likes over Blaze like he's
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He's not a flashy player by any means. He's obviously
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is it his defense that he prefers. He's just his.
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I don't know.
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He's just a steady, steady player more than Blaze is,
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where he's not going to do anything crazy or you know,
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I don't know. I just don't. I don't see it,
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to be honest, and we and that's probably why he's leaving.
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And maybe Ivan probably didn't really see it either. I
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was like they would have offered him a deal a
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long time ago.
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Well, Ivan's position of not really talking about this sort
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of stuff, whether it's injuries or play a form or whatever,
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means that we don't really know what the story is
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with Blades in terms of what the big issue is.
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You have to imagine it is the defense. He paid
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the price for that entire left side, having some some
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shockers there. But look, we'll see what happens on Friday,
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But Ducks and Drakes from Ivan, I don't think we're
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gonna find out. He held a press He's pretty much
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press conference on Monday.
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He wasn't happy, was he before the guy that's coming
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equal first in the competition. He just didn't want to
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be there. By the sounds of things, they had some
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good journal show up and peppering with all sorts of
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questions and he was just palming him off with some
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maybes and no's and I don't knows, and I just
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I don't know.
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Like got some cold chips in his lunch or something.
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Well, yeah, I mean.
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Like obviously I don't know.
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I think Ivan's a terrific guy, obviously one of the
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best coaches to ever coached the NRL and obviously Panther
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as best ever coach. And players love him, They want
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to play for him, people want to come to the
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club to play under him. But he just has something
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against the media, I think Ivan where he just doesn't.
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He just doesn't. He's not very friendly, you know. Yeah,
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And we all love him, like as the media, we
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love and we respect him. But people come out from
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we only come out five minutes to go and to
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see these players, but people are coming traveling over an hour, trains, buses, cabs,
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all sorts of thing. Shout out to Martin Gabor. He
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certainly has three mojor transport to get to get to
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Panthers training. But it's just not very It doesn't give
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you anything, and just sometimes it comes across a bit rude. Yeah,
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no fair in saying that he's iv't going to ban
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me from future press converences.
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But it's true. He's got it in him, you know.
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And there's there's times when he's the exact opposite, particularly
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in recent times, like he's actually been a bit more
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open or whatnot. But he seems a very closed book
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at the moment. And maybe it's finals time, maybe he
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gets you know.
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Maybe, but you've seen him at the Magicians like out
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and around Penrith and you've been involved in things completely
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he's like actually probably probably a nice person.
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Oh no, he absolutely is. And I think that I
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don't know what it is. It's not it's it's not
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quite in the realm of Wayne Bennett that way, Troy,
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but yeah, sometimes it can come across that way and
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it's yeah, it's not not.
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It more relaxed these days in the pre match talks.
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And I will say too that I think the media
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has given Ivan a pretty decent time over over his
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entire career. I don't think that there's been a time.
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Obviously there was some difficulties around him his exit from
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the Tigers, but I think Ivan would admit that he
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did the Tigers a bit dirty there. So I think
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you're going to get some some unfair coverage. But I
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think largely the media has been extremely respectful to Ivan
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Cleary and extremely given them no given him no reason
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to have the the arrogance that he can sometimes have
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against the media because the stuff that they are reporting
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out of these press conferences is generally, you know, pretty
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pretty positive and pretty good and I mean questioning in
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the Monday press conference was literally around one of his
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players who he dropped to New South Wales Cup. And
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this is what coaches can sometimes forget, is that obviously
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your voice is the voice to the fans, that the
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media's voice, yeah, is what's speaking to the fans. Fans
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want to know why Blaze isn't there, And so the
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question gets asked and I even won't answer it. It's
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it's you're being like that to the fans. You're not
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just being It's not just some random journo that you're
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being rude to, as you say, or maybe been arrogant to.
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It's it's the fans.
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Yeah, And that's how and that's how rumors start. Try
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if they comes out and says this is exactly you know,
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hits that tell evereses everything. But these are some of
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the reasons why where we're working with Blaze on this
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and that. Then there's no reasons other wise people can
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to make up all sorts of things, and you know,
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enter all three sixty will sit there and go, oh,
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well maybe it was this or maybe it was this,
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And I think can put it to bed straight away
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with some of these things.
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And you know what, you can actually answer the question
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without answering the question but not coming across his clothes
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book because he is You can say something like, look,
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you know, I've been working with Blaze ever since he
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got to the club. Blazer is young, he's improving, he'll
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continue to improve, and we need to work on that improvement.
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The exact nature of what he's improving, that's a that's
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a day to day football thing. No one needs to
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know that. He needs to talk like that absolutely versus
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just shutting it down really really quickly. And look, we've
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talked about this before, but I went the same with injuries.
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So well.
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There was another question today on Monday about Mitch Kenny
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and saying what was his status for this week? Will
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he play? And he said maybe maybe not, Nah, he
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probably won't, like just because he's just toying with them now,
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like yeah.
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And you wouldn't get away with this in some big
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sports overseas. But the NRL doesn't have a rule around
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policy around being honest about injury. Oh yeah, right, I
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certainly don't. And I look, as I have said, I
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think on this podcast before and and and in chats
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that we have what what benefit do we get? I'm
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just legitimately, Yeah, does Ivan Cleary think, for example, not
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saying who's going to play five Baked on Friday night?
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Does he think Cameron Soroaldo. He's sitting at his desk
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there at Belmore with COVID and he's with a COVID
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outbreak unfaulty. He's got doctor Kerry chant On on one
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one line and he's got one ear on the iPad
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with Ivans. Press are up saying hopefully Ivan tells us
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what the news is or whatever. And then he's got
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two whiteboards. He's got a col whiteboard and telling you
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white that is that? Honestly what goes through coaches heads
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that they think other coaches are preparing in that way?
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Well, I mean, I don't know, Ture, and only they
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would know, because is that what Penrith are doing. Penrith
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spies out people watching all the press cofferences of other
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teams and going, okay, like scot.
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The kid spying a big bunch of COVID that's what
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I mean.
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Do they have do they have their own spies out
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there like medium monitoring, checking, checking what's going on with
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certain players. And if that's the case, well maybe that's
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why he's like, Okay, well let's not tell anyone, because
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you know, you know, if that's how easy it is
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to find out information, it's it's crazy. But like, but
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then Ivan has this reputation of well he's won his
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four comps under this same mantra, so well, it's.
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Actually not the same manager because during this period there
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was the whole host plus injury update videos, s Bud
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sick list and this changed somewhere in the in the Europe, yes,
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not before it.
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Pete Green come and do videos like the physio stuff.
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Yeah, and I mean, look, maybe you don't need to
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go into that kind of detail, but the sort of
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cloud in it's like we had with luke gana.
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Just bizarre just two months he was out for that
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and as far.
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As we understand it, it is an Ivan Cleary edict. Yeah,
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that's you know, we've we've asked the question before and
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then this comes from the top down. But as you say,
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there is one thing that Ivan has above everyone else,
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and that's for premierships. So maybe we should just accept that's.
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Well, but he could just less arrogance, a little bit nicer,
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be kinder to people. I don't know.
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Yeah, well he certainly didn't get you know, it wasn't
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like he was getting hard questions at that pressure on Monday,
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and in fact he very rarely does. They're pretty you know,
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you're coming first second on the ladder, you get softball questions.
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Well, yeah, they asked him about P and G, they
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asked him about the Australian job, whether he'd want it,
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Like maybe some of the questions went on a bit
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too long, but.
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Being asked like there was a question at Craig Bellerby's
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press conference last we Swans, he's not asking about that.
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He's not being asked you know you, how do you
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deal with your like stupid questions like the media can
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sometimes come up with. He's being asked legitimate day to
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day footy questions, which is what you want the media
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to ask you, and then you don't answer it. Anyway,
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back to Panthers Dogs. Nathan, do you know the Bulldogs
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are actually the team The Panthers have played the second
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most in history paramount of the most one hundred and
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six games these two teams have played. And it's pretty even. Actually,
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Penrith have won forty eight of them, the Dogs fifty five.
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There's been three draws during that time. Fascinating. But I
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have an extraordinary stat for you.
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Let's hear it all right.
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Look, I would give you one thousand dollars if you
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could guess this artistic that penreth have achieved over the Bulldogs.
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Thousand dollars, but no other club. Okay, they've achieved it
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against the ball club.
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But haven't done it against no other club. Okay, you
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put me on the spot here. What have pen achieved
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over the Bulldogs that no other club has that they
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haven't done over any other club? Has any other club
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done it over the Bulldogs?
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I can't tell you that. That's not the that's not
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the rules of the game, is it?
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Okay? I know I'm wrong, but I'm just going to say,
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is it like holding them scoreless?
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For you don't get your thousand dollars? Nathan Penates have
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scored more than two thousand points against the Bulldogs in history. Okay,
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they've never they haven't scored two thousand points against any
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other team. Wow, they've scored, for example, one nine fifty
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six over the Dogs. Sorry, over the Eels, they've scored
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one nine hundred and five over the Sharks. But they've
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scored more points against the Bulldogs than any other club
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in his very good start in sixty seven. What does
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that mean? Probably very little coming into coming into this one,
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but look looking forward to to this one. They've won.
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They've played four games at Combank Stadium. These fourteen are
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these two teams. The Panthers have won three of them
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and the Dogs have won one of the four games.
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I remember that game that the Dogs won. It wasn't
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our home ground at the time either. I think are
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just playing a game.
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The Dogs ran playing games. That's right at Coombank Stadium,
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all right, So just having a look quickly. Yeah, we
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said the Pants are sitting second on the ladder, the
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Dogs sitting night. The Dogs need to win this. If
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they don't win this, it's it's goodbye.
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And that's what makes me nervous. They have still something
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to play for.
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They do, because we will talk about the ladder in
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just a moment where they sit. But they and they're
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playing before the Cowboys play on the weekend, so they're
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going to know what they need to know, what they
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need to do in terms of they so they're not
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going to know. So therefore they just need to win
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and that's their that's their main crux. I am tipping
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a ped with victory, though I think they'll be too strong.
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I reckon the dogs will stick with them maybe for
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fifty even sixty minutes, because of the fact that they
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need to to win. We don't know about that impact.
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We joked about it, but there is apparently a COVID
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outbreak at the Dome.
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I was I was hanging around a Bulldog's player on
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Sunday the fish market, Josh Curran. We were sharing them
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bassroom together.
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I should we went in.
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The same bathroom, but we were in the toile at
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the same time, and I'm like, oh ship, And then
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I found out of all this COVID stuff. I'm like, O,
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B wasn't one of the COVID victims.
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You're buying some snapper or no?
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No, I just got some. We had some lunch there,
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you know, and prawns fish beautiful down there.
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Have you been?
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I haven't drive passed it round, stunning facility.
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I haven't been there, haven't. I'm not a big fish.
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Only the old fish market.
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You never went to the Old fish Market. Oh well
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this is this is much better, but better parking as well. Okay,
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very good by fourteen, Well that's not you know, when
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you tip them by fourteen, it's going to be a
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two point game. I'm tipping panereth, but I'm tipping them
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by six. Okay, I think it's going to be close.
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It's just you don't know what you're going to get.
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With the Bulldogs. We played them earlier this year. We
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thought we were going to win.
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We didn't.
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We played them in the semi last year, smash them.
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They beat us because we rested all our players the
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thing before the game before that. We won by golden
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point or two points or something. It's you just don't
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know what you're going to get. I just feel like
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it's going to be a close one.
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All right. Well, it is Friday night at Combank Stadium
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and eight o'clock kickoff to the Panthers and the Bulldogs.
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And look, there's no trains. This weekend is on Friday night.
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Oh thank god helping you there. So Saturday Sunday, I
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think the Western line is having a rest. But Friday
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night there is trains and I can get there for
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the eight O'CLOCKICKFF. The game live on Fox League and
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of course Channel nine as well. And if you're stuck
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in traffic on the way, I think two GB and
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the ABC both calling it. If you get stuck, well
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well power on a Friday. Look pair the fans. If
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you've been to the last few games, it has been Thursday.
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Don't forget. Friday's a different catal.
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Thursday is pretty busy too, with.
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Well it is. I think there's a big festival on
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in Paramounta this weekend.
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Yeah, what's on?
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That's next weekend? All good, don't worry about that.
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Forget that Father's Day weekend as a festivals.
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Play on Father's Day of course against the the West
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Tigers to finish the season, which we're going to talk
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about now. In terms of finishing the season, because the
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race for the minor premiership is on between three clubs,
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you would say you can do something.
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Don't given the Dolphins a hope.
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I'm not giving the Dolphins a hope. Given that there
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are two points behind the other three teams, and I
481
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can't see all three of those teams falling away and
482
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the Dolphins then winning and turning around the four and
483
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against the situation as well. So we're going to take
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the Dolphins out. We're going to say that the minor
485
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premiership battle is between the Warriors, Panthers and Roosters. And
486
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I would almost say you can take the Roosters out
487
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really of the minor premiership equation, and in fact, I'm
488
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pretty confident I heard this morning on Radio two that
489
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the odds for the Roosters to win the minor Premiership
490
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are blown out entirely. Penrith and minor premiership favorite despite
491
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sitting second. So right now, the Warriors they're thirty eight points.
492
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They're on top because they have a differential of plus
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two ninety five. Penrith have a differential of plus two
494
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ninety four. Crazy on thirty eight points. They are literally
495
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just one point behind. And then the Roosters they are
496
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also on thirty eight points, but this is where they
497
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fall over. They have a differential of plus one sixty two.
498
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That's despite you know what do they put on the
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Cowboys eighty two in a week and they still only
500
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have a differential of plus one sixty two, so some
501
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of those games earlier in the year hurt them. Now
502
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let's have a look at the draws for these three clubs,
503
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so the Warriors to start with them. Now, the good
504
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news for the Warriors maybe the bad news for Penrith
505
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is that the Warriors are at home for the next
506
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two weeks. They play Newcastle this Sunday afternoon at two
507
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o'clock kickoff. Now the Knights, they are ashored of a
508
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finals finish, but they're they're wanting a home final, so
509
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they have plenty to play for in Baris last week.
510
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Will they lose in a row? I don't know that
511
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They're a better team than they have been in the
512
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last five or six years, so there are chants of
513
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knocking off the Warriors. Then the Warriors have Manly and
514
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that game is on Super Saturday, so that is a
515
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three o'clock game in the last round of the year.
516
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Mainly could prove a disruptor that they just did that
517
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on the weekend to Newcastle. Now, if we have a
518
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look at the Roosters, they've got the Dolphins. That's a
519
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tough one. It's really tough and then they've got the
520
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rabbit Os, which'd argue is also tough. They're the only
521
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team that play two teams inside the eight to finish
522
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the season, and Penrith, I would argue, you had the
523
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softest run in they had the Dogs and finish with
524
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the Tigers. So with all of that, who finishes minor premiers?
525
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Keeping in mind, I predicted on this very podcast the
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current situation we have, which was that the Warriors would
527
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finish first if you.
528
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right, you did actually, and
529
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I predicted Penrith would finish first.
530
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Yes, so it's a one point battle.
531
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It is that he is a one point battle. Look, yeah,
532
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I think I'm I'm also looking at the next few
533
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games for all the teams here, and I definitely agree
534
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with you, Peneth. You have the softest draw. Of course,
535
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I think the Roosters have it the hardest, but the Dolphins,
536
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they're just the Dolphins put forty eight on them earlier
537
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this year, Troy, so I think they would be pretty
538
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confident the Dolphins of beating the Roosters, I think at
539
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Alian's this week, and the Warriors, I think I think
540
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they also have a pretty soft draw. Troy, playing at home.
541
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That place is a bit of a fortress. And while
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they while they are having got some injuries, and they've
543
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even got some more again over the weekend with Dallan
544
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being out now for it probably looks like the rest
545
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of the year with a broken collar bone, I still
546
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have faith in them to probably win their next two games, Troy.
547
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So I think it's just going to come down to
548
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four and agains because I also think Penrith will win
549
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their next two games as well.
550
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So in that case, I mean, do you think and
551
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let's just say that they're even, they're even at the moment,
552
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do the Warriors beat the collective Manly and newcast for
553
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more than Penrith beat the collective Rocks and Tigers buy?
554
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Well, that's that's that's the question that everyone's going to
555
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be asking.
556
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And what about this? This is and this could be,
557
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This could happen and be exceptionally fascinating. So we all
558
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expected that Penrith may rest players against either the Dogs
559
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or the Tigers. Now are we declaring we don't think
560
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that's going to happen against the Dogs. I don't think,
561
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no chance. No. But with the Tigers game, what is
562
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more important, because there is every chance that that game
563
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will now have huge importance. It could be that Pedroth
564
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need to win it to secure a home final. It
565
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could be that Pedroth need to win it to get
566
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the minor premiership. It could be that Penroth need to
567
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beat the Tigers by thirty to get the minor premiership
568
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on that last game of the season. Yeah, so I've
569
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got two questions. Number one, can we get the JJ
570
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Gilt and Shield back from New Zealand in time to
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Combank Stadium on Sunday, which which may well have to happen.
572
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Or but most importantly yeah, like, does that mean no rests?
573
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No rest?
574
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Look, Ivan Cleary traditionally doesn't rest players in the last round,
575
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no matter how far up the ladder they are, he
576
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doesn't rest them. Usually like he played. I think that
577
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we had the Dragons last year in the last round.
578
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Obviously they needed he played that game. Didn't play the
579
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week before. It's the Dogs. There's been other examples where
580
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it's been the last game of the season, where it's
581
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been the Cowboys or someone you needed to win to
582
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get the minor premiership. He hasn't. He's resisted even when
583
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the minor premiership has been sewn up. These players want
584
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to play, even if it's just half a game with
585
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your big stars, he will he'll still play them. And
586
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I don't think Panether are in a position really to
587
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rest either. I don't think they're going that well.
588
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No, I agree with that that reason, and there's no
589
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reason to when you consider that you're going to have
590
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player like mister Kenny comes back in Dylan Edwards was
591
00:26:46.799 --> 00:26:49.519
out for a few weeks anyway, Like in my opinion,
592
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what you would do is, you know, the joy of
593
00:26:51.119 --> 00:26:53.359
the six man bench is that if you've got everything
594
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sewn up against the Tigers and you bring Nathan Cleary
595
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off before halftime, that's right, that's right, you know, depending
596
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on what needs to happen. I will say this, if
597
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you are going into that last game and the Warriors
598
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happen to lose on the Saturday, now Penrith cannot so
599
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Penrith would have to name their squad twenty four hours before,
600
00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:17.079
which is halftime in that game, so they're not going
601
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to be able to make it tweak. Then. But if say,
602
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you know, somehow manly get the Warriors late and Penrith
603
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have won the White A Premiership, do you then go, well,
604
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you put Nathan Cleary back to us. This is six
605
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men bench, and don't play him. If you don't if
606
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it turns out to be a nothing game. There's going
607
00:27:31.799 --> 00:27:33.200
to be a lot of strategy around this last year.
608
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It will be, But I feel like, especially what's going
609
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on with the five eighth, they need the reps on
610
00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:39.839
the board, they need some runs that you know what
611
00:27:39.880 --> 00:27:42.519
I mean. I'm still worried about that position being semi
612
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vacant unless they can they.
613
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Do you want to miss Nathan Cleary accidentally cocking someone
614
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in their head and getting a week suspend.
615
00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:51.680
Well, no you don't, But I mean that's just that's
616
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the sport, I guess, And you've got to just take
617
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the risk and hope for the best. You can't just
618
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not play guys because you're scared they're going to get hurt.
619
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I guess I'm gonna know. I'm sure you can. But
620
00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:03.519
you know, these guys want to play, they want to
621
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get better, they want to improve, and the only way
622
00:28:05.640 --> 00:28:08.119
to improve is to play them in proper competition games.
623
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Well, it's going to be fascinating. It's going to be
624
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a fascinating it is. Nothing is certain in terms of
625
00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:18.240
the race for the Minor premiership other than the Warriors
626
00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:21.680
will have I think probably everyone behind them unless you're
627
00:28:21.680 --> 00:28:22.319
a Penrith fan.
628
00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:24.519
Oh yeah, they've definitely got the weight of the whole
629
00:28:24.680 --> 00:28:27.279
rugby league fan base on their side.
630
00:28:28.240 --> 00:28:31.240
Fully understandable and acceptable. I'll accept it.
631
00:28:31.440 --> 00:28:33.079
You will accept it, will you? Of course?
632
00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:36.279
I mean, like, look, let's let's go back a bit.
633
00:28:36.359 --> 00:28:39.799
If this was the Warriors against say Melbourne, we'd all
634
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be cheering for the Warriors.
635
00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:43.599
We all would be to win a comp Yeah, you're
636
00:28:43.640 --> 00:28:45.559
going to cheering PNG or in there. You want them
637
00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:46.799
to win a camp with their super team.
638
00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:49.880
No, because I don't think that will be a fair.
639
00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:51.559
You don't think it's a fair, fair competition.
640
00:28:51.720 --> 00:28:54.000
I don't think will actually go anywhere near winning the
641
00:28:54.039 --> 00:28:56.799
complete will win that team. I actually think that that's
642
00:28:56.799 --> 00:29:00.640
a floody good so far. This side put together twenty six.
643
00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:02.680
It's going to play in twenty twenty eight when all
644
00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:04.279
of those players are a couple of years older.
645
00:29:04.319 --> 00:29:05.559
Yeah, but don't forget we're gonna have a bit of
646
00:29:05.559 --> 00:29:07.000
an old team in twenty twenty eight too.
647
00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:10.279
We've got some youngins coming youngon's coming through all right. Well,
648
00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:12.160
the race for the minor premiership is certainly on I
649
00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:13.720
don't know if we decided who's going to get there.
650
00:29:13.720 --> 00:29:15.440
You know what, though, I actually think Peneth will finish
651
00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:16.039
my premiers.
652
00:29:16.359 --> 00:29:19.519
Yeah, I'm going Penrith, the Perth, the Warriors.
653
00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:22.119
For me, I just think let's just declare all three
654
00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:25.599
of them win every game. I just think Penreth will
655
00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:27.200
win collectively by more much.
656
00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:29.440
Although seeing what the Tigers did to the Roosters the
657
00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:32.039
other day, little part of you going shivers, they could
658
00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:33.240
they could upset us.
659
00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:36.440
Yeah, well, yeah, of course you're not gonna you know,
660
00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:38.920
you're not going to confirm anything. I mean, they'd love
661
00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:41.799
to finish the year on a high, but I think
662
00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:43.359
Perith I just have too much to play for. If
663
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we're depending on what we're playing for and we're going
664
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to know, we're gonna you know, we could have another
665
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scenario completely, which is that the Dolphins do beat the Roosters.
666
00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:55.359
Now that puts the Dolphins onto thirty eight points, but
667
00:29:55.519 --> 00:29:59.039
too far behind Penrith on on four and against and
668
00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:01.960
whatever else to really catch them. So then you go, well,
669
00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:06.599
now home final secured pretty much in terms of you
670
00:30:06.680 --> 00:30:08.680
just need to win one of the two. So then
671
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you go all we go all out hopefully we've won
672
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the Bulldogs game, and then the Tiger's game might mean nothing.
673
00:30:13.079 --> 00:30:14.960
So there's a whole there's a scenario where the Tiger's
674
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game could mean a hell of a lot. It could
675
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mean the difference between a trip to New Zealand, for example,
676
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or a trip of staying in Sydney, or it could
677
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mean nothing.
678
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And finishing first actually does mean something. Come Grand Final
679
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time to Troy.
680
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Yeah, home home Jersey and yeah, your home Jersey.
681
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You just have a little like a teeny tiny bit
682
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of home advantage as well. Second, all that sort of
683
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stuff exactly.
684
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So well, the race is on for the other minor premiership,
685
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but it is exciting if you are anywhere in Western
686
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Sydney and they're thinking about your next car. There is
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stop destination for everything cars. All right, it is time
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for where are They Now? N This is the final
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time we're gonna do where are They Now? Because we've
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got rugby Lly recommendations. Of course it's our new segments.
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So yes, everyone's very sad about it. But for one
702
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last time we're gonna and you do all the research
703
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and all of this and it's you know, so I
704
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know you're devastated to not be able to do that
705
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every week. Here we are, all right, Now you've done
706
00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:41.799
your three players. As always, I do.
707
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Try and need some players from the nineteen nineties Penwith
708
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Panthers team. So first off, we've got Jody Gaull. You
709
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might remember him. I do, yes, played a fair few
710
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games for the Panthers in the mid nineties. Gordon Falcon.
711
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I just always likes that name. Gordon Falcon and Mark mcgore, Okay,
712
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legendary Mark, some of those let's go Mark McGaugh.
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Let's find out what he's.
714
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Doing now, brilliant, Troy. Okay, let me get my notes here. Okay,
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Mark McGaugh, I want to test you, Troy. What was
716
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his nickname, Mark McGaw.
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I don't know what was his name.
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That name was Sparkles, Sparkles McGaw.
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Okay, yeah, with his teeth, not sure.
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Maybe his eyes made a beautiful sparkly blue eyes or something. Anyway,
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he was a center and a back during his playing career. So, Troy,
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he started his career at the Cronulla Sharks because he
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00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:29.160
was a Cronulla boy growing up. Played one hundred and
724
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fifty eight first grade games before joining the Panthers in
725
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nineteen ninety three and playing sixteen games with them, scoring
726
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three tries in that one season. After moving from the Panthers,
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he went to South Sydney Rabbit Oz, where he played
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for two seasons before retiring in ninety ninety five. Yep, now, Troy,
729
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do you know what he did after? I know this
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part of the segment. Do you have any recollection of
731
00:32:48.720 --> 00:32:51.079
what Mark McGaugh did, which was quite out there in
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nineteen ninety five after his career.
733
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Ended, Well, no, I don't think he joined Manpower or
734
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anything like that.
735
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Did he well, no, not exactly, but he did join
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a big famous television show the era.
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Oh did he yes, okay, Toothbrush.
738
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No, it wasn't that.
739
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It was The Gladiators of course, yes he was.
740
00:33:08.359 --> 00:33:10.839
He was Hammer on the Australian version of the Channel
741
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seven show from nineteen ninety five to nineteen ninety six.
742
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And also around that same time Troy he joined some
743
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other rugby league personalities such as Paul Vaughton, Paul Syrinan
744
00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:22.839
and Daryl Browman and modeling for Lowe's Men's Wear co.
745
00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:24.599
So he was a bit of a good looking fellow
746
00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:28.480
and obviously got into the t some TV work post career.
747
00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:32.519
Who was glad It's Falcon Hammer? Hammer, that was goldon Falcon.
748
00:33:33.720 --> 00:33:38.920
He was Hammer on Gladiators Australia. Okay, So he did
749
00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:41.279
that for a couple of years while the show was airing,
750
00:33:41.519 --> 00:33:43.680
a huge show. People haven't seen it was. It was
751
00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:47.759
really good back in the nineties. And in twenty sixteen
752
00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:50.480
Troy McGaw returned to rugby league, coaching the North Sydney
753
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Bears SG ball team. So he did a bit of coaching,
754
00:33:53.319 --> 00:33:57.319
but then in twenty twenty four mister McGaw returned to
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Australian Gladiators. This time was hosted by Bo Ryan. It
756
00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:02.759
had an ill fated season. I don't even think they
757
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finished the season actually on Channel ten.
758
00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:07.799
But he but he.
759
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Returned as the Umpire. He didn't return as Hammer. He
760
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came back as an umpire. And now, sure I have
761
00:34:13.719 --> 00:34:16.039
a bit of trivia for you on this one. There
762
00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:19.039
was also another former panther on this rebooted season of
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00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:21.800
the Gladiators. Can you guess who was it? L It
764
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:26.360
was Shandor El Yes, yes, a part of his Yes
765
00:34:26.519 --> 00:34:29.920
he was a gladiator. Yeah, Shandor o El. So that
766
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was a bit of an interesting fun fact for you.
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And finally, Mark mcgare is also the founder of the
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Mark McGaw Institute of Sports Science, which is a certifying
769
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agency for personal fitness trainers and sports conditioners. And that's
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00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:45.360
located in the Sydney CBD. He's also sixty two years
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00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:49.400
old and yeah, probably still as fit as ever. Mark
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00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:50.960
McGaugh former panther.
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00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:52.840
Mark mcguy I do remember. You know what I remember
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00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:54.559
most about Mart mcgaure is like having a fretty car,
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00:34:54.679 --> 00:34:55.719
Mart mcgore fretty card.
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00:34:55.960 --> 00:34:57.679
Yes, well, I look that up and he's actually in
777
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his Shark's gear on the pend with Panthers footy car.
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You haven't listened to others to this for the one
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that's the best team, this.
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Is the Gladiators.
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This is.
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Highlight for the highlight of Mark McGall.
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Mark McGall, you can make sure you check out that.
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You can see he's awesome.
785
00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:24.719
That was my favorite show going up. I remember meeting
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a few were the Gladiators when I was younger too.
787
00:35:26.440 --> 00:35:30.000
I was a big fan of the stars of Vulcan.
788
00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:32.920
I think Vulcan me too. Yeah, yeah, tadlocked guy.
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Yeah, listen to this.
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Thirty years old, six foot two, speed to burn Street
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to Deever State. Hammer has it all. He's a formidable warrior.
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There, he is a formidable warrior.
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Hammer former Panther.
794
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That's it for where are they now? Think if you've
795
00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:54.800
uncovered some plenty plenty of exciting players and where are
796
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they now? Over this season? Luckily be back for a
797
00:35:57.559 --> 00:35:58.599
second season next year.
798
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We'll see if they can update their wikipedias and LinkedIn
799
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profiles would be.
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Nice or at his time of Rugby League recommendations now
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00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:08.119
we come up with something every week that we recommend
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00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:10.679
to rugby league fans. It could be a podcast you
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recommended a burger or something.
804
00:36:12.360 --> 00:36:14.519
No, it was a fly for Wrap. I wonder if
805
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anyone will get that Friday they get the fly for
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Wrap folks, I might join.
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Now there's lots of options. Well, I'm going to kick
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it off this week and it is in the food
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area a Rugby league recommendation com makes stadium people. You're
810
00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:30.079
heading down there, you're going to get your drinks at
811
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the bar, You're going to get your hot dog or
812
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whatever you're going. Did you know you can order your
813
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food to your seat? Really? Absolutely, There is a QR
814
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code in the seat in front of you, yep, and
815
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one of the lovely staff there will bring it to you.
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You can order alcohol, you can order your hot dogs,
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you can auder your chips so you do not have
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to leave your seat.
819
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I have seen these little Purple Brigade flipping purple go
820
00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:52.400
flying around the stadium during the matches. So that's them,
821
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is it?
822
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And I don't believe that it's any extra costs.
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Really, free delivery, pre delivery.
824
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Because I guess they want less lines at the bars
825
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or whatever else. So yeah, you can just get it sorted.
826
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And what happens if you're in the front row.
827
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I don't know where. I don't know. I haven't been
828
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in it from Maybe it's right there on the fence.
829
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Look at that's been he's usually been Cummins in front
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of the show. He's usually in the front row. He's
831
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in here games a sausage roll delivered or something like that.
832
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But yeah, you utilize this service.
833
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I've utilized it once. There is an issue with the service.
834
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I don't want to, like, you know, bag it crap
835
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on my Okay, we're there for two more times anyway.
836
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But for some reason, the Bunderberg rum is not available
837
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on the delivery. All the other alcoholies in club and
838
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whatever else they've got, but for some reason they don't.
839
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It's like they like to hide the fact they've got
840
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these RUMs. I don't know why.
841
00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:45.920
They're very sneaky.
842
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:47.559
They like to put them in the fridge down there.
843
00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:50.239
It's like when I ask, it's almost like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
844
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we've got those. So that's my only reason I don't
845
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regularly do it. But I haven't been drinking much at
846
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the football this year.
847
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Health kick well, no, no, too expensive.
848
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It's actually it's ridiculously expensive and we're about to experience
849
00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:07.599
this in hellow World. But yeah, I think I could
850
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:11.440
get four Captain Morgan's at the old Penrith Stadium with
851
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the members discount for thirty two dollars.
852
00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:14.440
That's pretty good.
853
00:38:14.599 --> 00:38:17.840
And I would get two bun not even as good
854
00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:19.920
a drink as Captain and mid strength.
855
00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:24.440
So and that's one thing I hope about Hollow World,
856
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and it's not going to happen, is that we get
857
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our members discount.
858
00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:30.760
It's no chance, I reckon, but disappointing. We should be.
859
00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:32.880
It should have been part of our negotiations. We've been
860
00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:34.840
used to New South Wales, but I don't reckon all right.
861
00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:36.840
Watch your regular recommendation, yeah, Troy.
862
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:38.440
Of course is you know, I watch a lot of
863
00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:41.599
podcasts and listen to a lot of podcasts, or sometimes
864
00:38:41.880 --> 00:38:44.559
they film them and we can watch the interviews happen.
865
00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:46.559
But I watched the one in the last month or so.
866
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:49.159
Actually just finished it off the other week actually because
867
00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:51.280
it was it was a really good one. You know,
868
00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:55.000
the Josh Mansaw form of Panther. He has an unscripted podcast,
869
00:38:55.719 --> 00:38:57.360
Tata for a few years now. It's in it's in
870
00:38:57.360 --> 00:39:01.599
a little studio, well produced, usually gets a player on
871
00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:04.320
every week or a sporting identity on every week and
872
00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:08.039
chats with him for about an hour about about their
873
00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:10.519
careers and things like that. And he's had some pretty
874
00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:13.000
good guests over his time. I think he's had Nathan
875
00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:16.360
Cleary many years ago, and he prays pretty He's prayed
876
00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:18.679
pretty much everyone you're a Panthers fan. He's done a
877
00:39:18.679 --> 00:39:20.920
lot of a lot of Penrith players. But he did
878
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:25.239
one with Milk Tom Milkie Jenkins maybe six weeks ago,
879
00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:26.599
maybe just around after.
880
00:39:26.440 --> 00:39:27.880
His Leary started coaching.
881
00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:31.079
Well yes, exactly right, but after he re signed, Milki
882
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:35.360
went onto the onto This podcast by Josh Mansell, and
883
00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:38.199
it was it was a fascinating chat, the amount of
884
00:39:38.199 --> 00:39:41.719
topics that they went through and how open Tom Jenkins
885
00:39:41.920 --> 00:39:44.920
was about everything. It was just like two buddies chatting.
886
00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:46.880
And I don't believe they ever played together, because I
887
00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:49.599
think Mantil had left by the time Milki was in
888
00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:52.480
first grade. But had a really good bond, really good relationship.
889
00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:55.079
Guess as wingers, you know, pend with Panthers wingers, they
890
00:39:55.199 --> 00:39:57.800
have some sort of bond over that. But yeah, just
891
00:39:57.800 --> 00:40:01.480
some of the insights and bits of secrets that Mansell
892
00:40:01.559 --> 00:40:03.679
is able to get out of these players and stuff
893
00:40:03.719 --> 00:40:06.239
that they probably wouldn't tell us journos, you know, or
894
00:40:06.280 --> 00:40:08.280
they don't have the time to tell. They seem to
895
00:40:08.280 --> 00:40:11.199
feel more comfortable talking to formal players and things like that,
896
00:40:11.360 --> 00:40:13.519
which obviously can be annoying for people like you and
897
00:40:13.559 --> 00:40:15.760
I who would love to have these stories and in
898
00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:19.360
our articles and whatnot. But you know, Mansell has managed
899
00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:21.039
to do it in his own unique way. He's probably
900
00:40:21.039 --> 00:40:24.000
not the world's greatest interview or anything like that, but
901
00:40:24.519 --> 00:40:26.480
he does his thing and manages to get some really
902
00:40:26.519 --> 00:40:28.719
good stuff. So if I could recommend not just the
903
00:40:29.039 --> 00:40:32.960
Mantle unscripted podcasts as a whole, but that particular episode
904
00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:35.079
with Milky Bloody Brilliant, all.
905
00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:37.400
Right, we'll go have a look at it on YouTube
906
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:40.800
or wherever you listen to your podcasts. It is interesting
907
00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:44.039
the whole podcasting with players, because I reckon the clubs
908
00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:47.400
would be a bit frustrated as well. We're less controls. Also,
909
00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:49.960
this is content that they would probably love as well. Yeah,
910
00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:51.719
you know, sit down with their own media team and
911
00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:54.920
do this stuff. This is you know, And even though
912
00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:57.800
yes the mainstream rugby league media or us as local
913
00:40:57.920 --> 00:41:01.119
rugby league media probably frustrate clubs at times. At least
914
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:03.440
they feel that there's a proper bonding relationship there that
915
00:41:03.480 --> 00:41:05.760
you're not going to you know, you're not crossing too
916
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:09.559
many lines. And also you're getting most of those big
917
00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:12.280
media out let's give something back to the game, some
918
00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:15.719
of those podcasts. Obviously everything's just going to them. Yeah,
919
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:17.559
there's nothing sort of coming back the other ways. That's
920
00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:20.920
interesting in terms of how that's changing. All Right, a
921
00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:25.559
couple of final topics for the Pod Today Finals wish list, Nathan,
922
00:41:26.719 --> 00:41:30.280
is there something you want to see in the finals,
923
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:33.079
and let's I mean, maybe let's leave Penrith out of it.
924
00:41:33.679 --> 00:41:35.639
Is there something you want to see in the finals.
925
00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:39.079
Is there a finals wish list for you about one
926
00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:41.119
of the clubs there? Or you might want to see
927
00:41:41.119 --> 00:41:45.519
win or a player catch fire, something something in the
928
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:47.920
finals that you're looking forward to, you want to see,
929
00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:49.519
you want to make sure happens.
930
00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:54.440
Not including Penrith of course. Yeah, look at this question
931
00:41:54.559 --> 00:41:57.360
that you've posed, Troy, I don't know. I guess I'm
932
00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:01.760
I liked. I love the night Greend Final. That's really cool.
933
00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:03.760
I hope a lot of people hate it. They prefer
934
00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:06.480
that the day games and the day Grand Finals. But
935
00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:09.199
for me, I've always been the night guy. I think
936
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we're used to that now it builds up during the
937
00:42:11.199 --> 00:42:13.960
day we have the big spectacular, so I think we
938
00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:14.719
should keep that.
939
00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:15.320
I know.
940
00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:18.880
One thing that fans always call for on social media
941
00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:22.039
is like having the the d goals painted. Yes, you know,
942
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:23.400
like they did back in the day.
943
00:42:23.719 --> 00:42:25.039
You want to see a return of that.
944
00:42:25.320 --> 00:42:27.320
Yeah, I would that wouldn't be That wouldn't be bad.
945
00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:29.320
And also they used to have like patches on the
946
00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:33.599
jerseys for Grand Final, Grand Final patches. You would know
947
00:42:34.039 --> 00:42:36.360
that this was an important game because this particular jersey
948
00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:38.440
had a special patch on there for the Grand Final.
949
00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:41.760
So I would love to see I'd love to see
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00:42:41.760 --> 00:42:45.039
that take place in terms of someone winning a Grand
951
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:46.920
Final for not for Penrith, of course, I'd like to
952
00:42:46.920 --> 00:42:49.840
see the Warriors get up very cool. All the Dolphins.
953
00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:52.920
I don't have really anything against the Dolphins. I I
954
00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:54.519
don't hate the Dolphins. I hate a lot of the
955
00:42:54.519 --> 00:42:56.760
other teams in the top eight, but the Dolphins I don't.
956
00:42:57.119 --> 00:42:59.559
So Dolphins or Warriors would be would be really cool.
957
00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:00.599
If Panthers can't win.
958
00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:02.559
It, all right, well, look I don't know what I've
959
00:43:02.599 --> 00:43:04.400
got in my list apart from and this is a
960
00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:07.840
This is a bizarre one because I've never I've not
961
00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:09.639
always been a Latrell Mitchell fan.
962
00:43:10.440 --> 00:43:12.440
Oh no, You've been very critical of the Trell.
963
00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:16.800
But I would like to see him absolutely go nuts
964
00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:20.960
in a final series and have a Jared Hayes style
965
00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:23.800
final series where he just rips teams apart until he
966
00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:26.360
gets to Pendreth and then loses it. But you know something,
967
00:43:26.400 --> 00:43:27.880
I'd love to see that for Latroll. So I do
968
00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:30.480
feel I feel like Latrell is maturing and I do
969
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:33.960
feel like that. Unfortunately for him, injuries is clouding the
970
00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:35.760
legacy a little bit. And I'd love to see a
971
00:43:35.800 --> 00:43:39.119
final series with Latrell just you know, lifted up.
972
00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:42.320
When did you start drinking Latroll Mitchell cool age? You
973
00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:44.039
have been very anti Latrell, have.
974
00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:47.199
Been anti Latrell. I've been There's been some moments of
975
00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:49.559
Latrell where I think Latrell has let himself down.
976
00:43:50.360 --> 00:43:52.360
He is a bit overrated Latrell. I mean he's a
977
00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:55.119
bit sing, a bit down the turbo path where I say.
978
00:43:54.920 --> 00:43:57.920
He's not overrated when he's on the field. In terms
979
00:43:57.920 --> 00:44:00.119
of I think he does light up lets that like
980
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:02.119
if Latrell comes back, and this talkie will come back
981
00:44:02.119 --> 00:44:05.320
this weekend. I think AJ's got Milkie Jenkins as far
982
00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:07.320
as top try scorer, so I think you'll just unlock
983
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:12.119
more AJ. But he is overrated. From the fact that
984
00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:14.320
is Latrell going to win you a premiership? You almost
985
00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:16.840
say no, he's not there enough. Yeah, he's not there,
986
00:44:16.840 --> 00:44:20.039
and the same as Mainly and Turbo, as you say. Now,
987
00:44:20.039 --> 00:44:21.559
the other thing that I would like to happen in
988
00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:24.360
the finals is the bunker to not have a blunder,
989
00:44:24.679 --> 00:44:26.880
which might be a lot to ask because our final
990
00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:31.239
topic is on the bunker. There were three basically decisions
991
00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:34.039
over the weekend, so the Eels game, the Warriors game,
992
00:44:34.119 --> 00:44:37.599
and the Tigers Roosters game that had almost the exact
993
00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:42.159
same situation around a ballgrounding, seemingly different interpretations and news
994
00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:44.440
and whatever else. So I don't know what we're gonna
995
00:44:44.440 --> 00:44:46.280
do about the bunker. What is the one thing we
996
00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:49.119
could do about the bunker to make it better, because
997
00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:51.639
it's not going away. It's not going away.
998
00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:55.480
Well, it's particularly bad at the moment, isn't it.
999
00:44:55.599 --> 00:44:56.480
Why is it bad?
1000
00:44:57.000 --> 00:44:59.239
I don't know, because they've got some some of the games,
1001
00:44:59.239 --> 00:45:01.639
they've got some like very experienced referees in there. I
1002
00:45:01.639 --> 00:45:05.199
thought White Raymond that looked after our game was hopeless.
1003
00:45:05.320 --> 00:45:08.679
He was terrible, But although he did yesterday's game against
1004
00:45:08.760 --> 00:45:11.920
Tiger's roosters and he had a pretty good call. So
1005
00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:15.119
it's very hit and miss there those ones. But they
1006
00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:17.400
have actually Klein in there, and he also makes some
1007
00:45:17.440 --> 00:45:20.159
blunders or grand Atkins can make some blunders, so it's
1008
00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:23.880
not just against Wyatt. But I don't know. There are
1009
00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:25.800
a lot of experienced guys in there, so you think
1010
00:45:25.840 --> 00:45:27.800
it better. But I guess it comes down to interpretation
1011
00:45:27.960 --> 00:45:29.719
sometimes with a lot of these rules, you know what
1012
00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:32.559
I mean. We know in rugby league it's it's very
1013
00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:34.639
rarely black and white. There's a lot of gray areas,
1014
00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:37.079
a lot of it. Let's make some common sense calls
1015
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:39.239
here or some you know, and then when you've got
1016
00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:42.440
the commentators also blowing up and they're not agreeing with
1017
00:45:42.519 --> 00:45:43.400
each other or agree with.
1018
00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:46.880
And also you have got some of them that are
1019
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:48.800
putting common sense in that there was an incident over
1020
00:45:48.800 --> 00:45:50.679
the weekend or actually Klin I think was an in
1021
00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:54.880
the air situation, and a million other times you might
1022
00:45:54.920 --> 00:45:57.599
have seen tackled in the air. He said that was
1023
00:45:57.599 --> 00:46:00.880
a natural wrapping motion. Now we're into it. Now we've
1024
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:04.000
got natural rappings. Yes, to make sure, like you know,
1025
00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:06.039
like where did sometimes Yeah, one hundred percent.
1026
00:46:06.079 --> 00:46:08.280
There's been some really poor ones recently Penrith when they
1027
00:46:08.280 --> 00:46:10.840
said that some of the strips that we were strips,
1028
00:46:10.920 --> 00:46:13.519
or the cherry like the roosters one with cherry Evan's
1029
00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:16.559
not not touching the ball that was totally missed, and
1030
00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:19.119
do stuff like that. You scratch your head. You're like,
1031
00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:20.800
how does no one? How can we all see it?
1032
00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:22.920
But you can't do we need an extra guy in there.
1033
00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:25.639
Well, well maybe it's the wrong guy. So I'll say this,
1034
00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:28.519
like if I you're a rugby league and sports journalist, Nathan,
1035
00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:30.960
you could probably write a story about the penrothe news
1036
00:46:31.719 --> 00:46:33.119
or the congratulations. Then.
1037
00:46:33.159 --> 00:46:35.239
By the way, their first Grand Final.
1038
00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:37.840
Win celebrations were huge at the Kingswood Hotel.
1039
00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:39.119
Apparently they were.
1040
00:46:39.239 --> 00:46:44.039
Yes, I think chicken Man stayed open. Like, but if
1041
00:46:44.079 --> 00:46:46.280
I sent you to do the Peni City Council meeting
1042
00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:49.360
next Monday night, you'd be able to do it. But
1043
00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:50.800
would you find it challenging?
1044
00:46:51.639 --> 00:46:53.960
Yes, because I've done it before right.
1045
00:46:54.320 --> 00:46:57.800
Now, which makes me think about why why do we
1046
00:46:58.039 --> 00:47:00.960
why do we think that an on field referee and
1047
00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:05.079
it is the same as like skill set as the
1048
00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:07.519
person in the bunker. Like you say about why Raymond,
1049
00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:10.039
Why Raymond is an on field referee still learning his
1050
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:13.639
craft as an on field referee. Now, I imagine the training
1051
00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:16.599
or whatever process they do for a bunker official is different,
1052
00:47:16.920 --> 00:47:20.400
So what he's going through two different sets of training
1053
00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:23.519
per se. I think we need to look at bunker officials.
1054
00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:27.199
Are bunker official specialists are referees? Now, then you're going
1055
00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:29.719
to have this discorder. Oh yeah, you know, this guy
1056
00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:32.760
the bunker doesn't understanding what's really like on the field
1057
00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:34.760
like a referee. I get we're going to have that,
1058
00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:37.400
but I just think that you need a bunker specialist
1059
00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:39.920
and at the moment, you have a longer shift as
1060
00:47:39.920 --> 00:47:41.840
an air traffic controller than you do in the bunker.
1061
00:47:41.960 --> 00:47:44.480
Like I actually think that surely we can have one
1062
00:47:44.599 --> 00:47:46.800
or two guys doing the whole weekend.
1063
00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:49.239
But a lot of those guys do games as well.
1064
00:47:49.320 --> 00:47:52.239
Yeah that's what I mean. So you're not doing games anymore.
1065
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:54.840
You're just in the bunker, you know. I don't know
1066
00:47:54.840 --> 00:47:56.800
how your practice being in the bunker, Like there's Peter
1067
00:47:56.840 --> 00:47:58.920
Blandi steam you're like twenty decisions and you've got to
1068
00:47:58.920 --> 00:48:00.760
get twenty right or something. I don't know how it works.
1069
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:02.519
Do you think refs want to be in the bunker
1070
00:48:02.599 --> 00:48:04.320
or they preferred they prefer to be out in the
1071
00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:05.559
actual game, right.
1072
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:07.679
I'd imagine that, But surely you would have some either
1073
00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:11.559
retired referees or some There might just be some people
1074
00:48:11.599 --> 00:48:14.519
that are just better at I know the intricacies of
1075
00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:15.000
the rule.
1076
00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:17.880
I think it will also be good if yeah, there
1077
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:20.360
was a second person in there potentially and they can
1078
00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:23.440
point out things like they don't make the call, but say, hey,
1079
00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:25.719
why look did you see that? Like, you know, like
1080
00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:28.920
just pointing out bits that he may not see because
1081
00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:30.880
here it's under so much pressure and you've only got
1082
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:32.599
a certain amount of time because he don't want to
1083
00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:34.920
drag it on for ten minutes making a call. Just
1084
00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:37.079
maybe someone in there just oh, you may have missed
1085
00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:38.719
that one, you know, like just even if the ref
1086
00:48:38.760 --> 00:48:39.480
tips them up.
1087
00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:44.800
Like which does happen occasionally occasionally, but look that they
1088
00:48:44.800 --> 00:48:46.599
do need to do something. I'm hoping there's a full
1089
00:48:46.639 --> 00:48:48.440
review in the off season, maybe we need to bring
1090
00:48:48.480 --> 00:48:52.199
back Graham Ansley's Monday Review because maybe some public shaming
1091
00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:55.199
actually helped. Maybe some public shaming helped at the moment.
1092
00:48:55.239 --> 00:48:55.639
What what?
1093
00:48:56.199 --> 00:48:57.960
How will put it this way? We dumped the Graham
1094
00:48:57.960 --> 00:49:01.159
Mansley thing. Has that made efficient better or worse? Because
1095
00:49:01.159 --> 00:49:02.079
it hasn't made it better.
1096
00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:03.599
It's been bad this year.
1097
00:49:03.599 --> 00:49:05.760
It's been bad this year, and we don't have that
1098
00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:08.559
that briefing that maybe you know, just a bit more public.
1099
00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:11.760
But are they under enough pressure already? Would that make
1100
00:49:11.800 --> 00:49:14.119
them more more pressure to get their decision?
1101
00:49:14.239 --> 00:49:16.800
I don't think it did, because I think probably sixty
1102
00:49:16.840 --> 00:49:19.079
to seventy percent of what Graham actually was saying to
1103
00:49:19.079 --> 00:49:22.000
people was actually, guys, we got this right. But right
1104
00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:24.159
now we're still walking away from games thinking, oh, they
1105
00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:26.840
got that wrong. Where Graham manager, he would get there
1106
00:49:26.840 --> 00:49:28.960
on a Monday and say, hey, you're all wrong, let
1107
00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:31.400
me tell you why, and you go. I'll accept that.
1108
00:49:31.960 --> 00:49:33.679
Now we're just left to fester in, oh they got
1109
00:49:33.719 --> 00:49:35.800
it wrong, we're all He's sitting here saying like they're
1110
00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:38.280
worse than it's ever been because we don't have that
1111
00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:42.119
opportunity for him to defend himself which he should a
1112
00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:44.840
couple of fine little things. Peter bal Andy's did a
1113
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:46.920
hard hitting interview with Fletchenhindi. I don't know if you
1114
00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:50.079
saw it. They called it that one, they called it
1115
00:49:50.079 --> 00:49:54.320
eighty minutes and apart from all the fun was it
1116
00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:58.639
eighty minutes? Apart from all the fun and you know,
1117
00:49:58.880 --> 00:50:01.519
frivolity in it. There was a question about the whole
1118
00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:04.239
pope thing in the Grand Final and Pete basically said, no,
1119
00:50:04.360 --> 00:50:06.199
that they're being totally can't be on the same day
1120
00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:11.199
the Grand Final, and the host is the government the government,
1121
00:50:11.199 --> 00:50:15.119
I guess, and so Grand Final, well, he said that's
1122
00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:19.400
a possibility, or a week later or okay, or taking
1123
00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:21.840
it out of town. So we're here, like I've been,
1124
00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:24.920
very like vocal in come on, we've got two years
1125
00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:26.920
to sort this out. But apparently the Mins Labor government
1126
00:50:27.639 --> 00:50:30.280
as they like to call themselves, he's unable to sort
1127
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:31.480
this out by twenty twenty eight.
1128
00:50:31.599 --> 00:50:34.440
That a Senate also comes down to the hotel space
1129
00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:36.800
and everything around town. If they're getting so many international
1130
00:50:36.880 --> 00:50:39.000
visitors coming down for the pope.
1131
00:50:38.679 --> 00:50:40.960
And so there's someone who's here to see the pope
1132
00:50:41.480 --> 00:50:44.239
or even the Pope himself staying at the Pullman in
1133
00:50:44.239 --> 00:50:45.039
the Olympic Park.
1134
00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:47.719
Yeah, Penrith, Yeah they could, they could stay. They could
1135
00:50:47.719 --> 00:50:50.119
be filling up the hotels all around town.
1136
00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:53.400
Okay, we cop out to the Grand final.
1137
00:50:53.440 --> 00:50:55.360
Get he could just do his lap here.
1138
00:50:55.599 --> 00:50:57.760
Yeah, half time entertainment. He could do his luck. He
1139
00:50:57.800 --> 00:50:58.360
would love it.
1140
00:50:58.360 --> 00:50:59.559
It's American Pope now.
1141
00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:01.239
And the other thing is that I think we've had
1142
00:51:01.320 --> 00:51:06.320
indirect confirmation now that the prelim finals on the will
1143
00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:07.599
be on the Friday night and.
1144
00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:11.199
The Sunday Saturday night's free because.
1145
00:51:11.800 --> 00:51:14.239
The Saturday night will be a standalone New South Wales
1146
00:51:14.280 --> 00:51:16.079
Cup Grand Final at com Bank State.
1147
00:51:16.159 --> 00:51:17.960
That's just for the pre limn not week two.
1148
00:51:18.159 --> 00:51:20.519
Well, I've asked the NRL that may have yet to reply.
1149
00:51:21.000 --> 00:51:26.519
Surprise thank you if here is Glenn Jackson. But yes,
1150
00:51:26.599 --> 00:51:29.599
so definitely week three. And the reason that it's definitely
1151
00:51:29.639 --> 00:51:32.360
is the case is because they're named the venue Kombat Stadium.
1152
00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:34.320
So if peterwith have a prelim and play at Combank,
1153
00:51:34.639 --> 00:51:36.480
it can't be obviously on the same night as the
1154
00:51:36.519 --> 00:51:39.239
New South walest Cup Grand Final. It would likely be
1155
00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:43.119
on the Friday night before it all the Sunday afternoon.
1156
00:51:43.239 --> 00:51:44.840
But I would say, if the Warriors have a pre
1157
00:51:44.920 --> 00:51:49.320
lim that's going to be the Sunday time wise. So yeah,
1158
00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:51.159
there'll be in New Southwest Cup Grand Final. So our chance,
1159
00:51:51.159 --> 00:51:53.400
because the Panthers are going well in the Cup, a
1160
00:51:53.480 --> 00:51:56.039
chance that you'll be able to go see that standalone,
1161
00:51:56.559 --> 00:51:58.440
including the women's premiership in Jersey Flake could be a
1162
00:51:58.440 --> 00:51:59.360
Pedis triple that day.
1163
00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:02.000
Be amazing if it was, Yes, so we'll go check
1164
00:52:02.039 --> 00:52:02.280
that out.
1165
00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:05.639
All right, Well, Panthers dogs this Friday night. Enjoy that
1166
00:52:06.280 --> 00:52:09.199
at Combank Stadium. That is it for Tensions Running High
1167
00:52:09.199 --> 00:52:11.320
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00:52:11.360 --> 00:52:13.559
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00:52:13.639 --> 00:52:16.440
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00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:19.159
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00:52:19.199 --> 00:52:21.760
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00:52:21.760 --> 00:52:24.400
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00:52:26.519 --> 00:52:29.119
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