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Speaker 1: Welcome into my Order of the Faithful's Survivor edition Wells. Here, along with Dolores Catanai, we are joined by Sophie Blairdie. She was runner up on season forty nine. You are watching this with us back again? How fun is it to watch season fifty and know that you're not on that beach?
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's so nice, especially coming off the heels of like being in the center of Microscope for the last season.
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Speaker 3: I can now relax and be a fan again and.
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Speaker 2: Watch season fifty these icons and also my friends who are on season forty nine with me, So it's extra special this season to watch as a bit I'm sure.
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Speaker 4: But even knowing the behind the scenes now, Sophie, like, tell us now that you're watching it as a viewer, because I'm I do this with traders, Like I know now what it was.
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Speaker 5: I really like that day and how long it took and all that type of staff.
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Speaker 4: Is there, Like is it like more exciting just knowing what they're actually going, Like you got to know like by the third day, like they're frigging hungry.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's true. I remember watching this episode back.
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Speaker 2: I was like, damn, that's a really hard challenge for it to be like day eight or nine, because at this point you're hitting like your first hump of hunger, and like your body is starting to react to it in a weird way where like when you stand up from sitting down and you get a little foggy and a little dizzy, and then you're having to do these grueling challenges at the random point of the day, like at the hottest point of the day, and it's so taxing on your body. And I really felt for them, just like knowing how it fell out there.
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Speaker 4: I feel empathetic now, right, you're literally feeling.
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Speaker 2: It because we're seeing like such a little like piece of it and they're dealing with it the whole day.
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Speaker 1: So physically, yeah, well, and you're watching, you know, want to like try to do that challenge and they, you know, cues gone now, and so like it's just it's Mike and Ozzy are like the strong guys on that team, and you can see that they have no more energy, Like they can't even get that boat through that net. And I was thinking the same thing. I was like, these guys haven't eaten, they haven't had flint since like the Reagan administration, like they're so screwed. Let's let's let's just rip through the episode kind of beat by beat, you know, after the Tribal Council, Ozzie's determined to become Mike White's number one. Ally is he doing that for the game or because he wants to be on the next season of White Lotus.
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Speaker 3: I think I know, Ozzy.
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Speaker 2: I feel like he's doing it for a cameo on the White Lotus.
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Speaker 5: That's so funny.
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Speaker 3: Hey, what you gotta do, what you gotta do.
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Speaker 2: He's thinking the wrong opportunities. He's thinking past survivor, which is smart, and I think that's probably why he was so upset out to the you know, the episode and I'm jumping but like, yeah, I think it was maybe a little bit of both.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, fair enough. Cela's having a talent show. Uh yeah, I think this is I imagine a lot of this stuff happens that gets left on the cutting room floor with you guys.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you need fillers for the time, right, Like us are sitting on an island.
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Speaker 5: What are you gonna do? Entertain each other?
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Speaker 3: I agree.
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Speaker 2: I just thought, like with so many fan favorites left, like I was surprised that they left that, like there's surely there's something Serie's doing that's more entertaining than than Rizzo doing a Mickey Mouse impression really good. I mean, I am glad they left it in because I had to hear that stupid impression every night on forty.
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Speaker 3: Nine and I actually had to tell I love Yes, I love him. He's like a little brother to me.
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Speaker 2: But like he I told him before fifty I'm like, don't do that impression.
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Speaker 3: Like these people are gonna hate you. And I guess it worked out for him on this show.
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Speaker 1: He won. He won, I mean, but.
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Speaker 3: Charlie's targeting him now though, so I don't know if.
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Speaker 4: That's Charlie really is. Do you think Charlie's justified for not like him so much?
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Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys remember, but the reason why he's targeting him is because told them that he didn't.
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Speaker 5: Vote for me. Yeah, and he can't get over it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And I mean selfishly, I'm like, thank you, Charlie, that's really nice. I wish he would have voted for me.
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Speaker 2: But I at the same time, I think getting one track minded on Survivor is pretty dangerous, Like if there's not a real reason to go after someone like Rizzo seems to want to work with Charlie. That's something that I feel like you should keep in mind more than like a personal vendetta you might have or some baggage you're carrying from a previous season. So I don't know if this is gonna work out and my poor friend is gonna get voted out, or it's gonna bite Charlie in the butt.
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Speaker 1: I have a feeling that Charlie is annoyed by Rizzo and he's looking for something to things to get, so he's like using this this grudge thing just because he's like, I gotta get this, Miki.
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Speaker 5: He's annoying.
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Speaker 4: We don't mean to call your friend annoying, but like we just think the other people think he's annoying.
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Speaker 1: That's what I think's happening. I could be wrong.
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Speaker 2: It's happened on our season two. I feel like Rizzo, I like, superficially. If you don't know him deeply, you might think that because he's just especially all these older players, they're looking at him like this little immature person.
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Speaker 4: Started crying in the first episode. Sophie, you know there's no room for tears on this damn island.
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Speaker 2: I know, but to be fair, he had just played twenty five days, like a week before.
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Speaker 4: These people are true, but we didn't think of it that way. We didn't know he only had a nine day break and the kid just wants to go home and have McDonald's at this point.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, no, I don't know. I feel like that could be happening. People are getting annoyed of him, But I guess I feel like with the trailer we saw for next week, it's gonna come to a head at some point soon, So I'm excited to see what happens.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I bet he wishes you were there to have his back now, for sure.
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Speaker 3: For sure.
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Speaker 1: Back at the Collo Tribe, Aubrey's looking for an idol in Genevieve's calling for her, screaming like recal a commercial which is a chef's kiss, and the fact that like there wasn't a rical a commercial when we went to break is a huge miss on CBS's partner. Sure I'm not in the ad sales over there and aternative events. Genevieve finds the idol instead, she gets her second boomerang idol and sends it to Rizzo. She's not telling anyone this time, even her closest allies about it. So Sophie paint a picture for us. How hard is it to find idols out there?
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Speaker 3: It is so hard.
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Speaker 2: I thought that they were going to be so easily visible, but I think what happens is like they're not there the whole time, because you will look and look and look, and like you'll look in the same tree that it ends up being in, but like you know, it wasn't put It wasn't there, Okay, So I think that they pick and choose when they put it in there, but it is really really hard to find it. Like even when I didn't find an idol, but I found an advantage and it was like the same thing, like in the same little package and idols in so I it was like in the tiny crevice of this huge tree. And I don't know how I ended up seeing it, but it.
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Speaker 5: Was your grandmother.
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Speaker 3: I genuinely think it was that.
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Speaker 2: Because I don't know how I saw it, I could have missed it like this, if I would have like turned my head a little quicker, it would have been missed.
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Speaker 4: So do you think Genevieve's finding this two of these idols is talent or luck?
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Speaker 3: I don't I think a little bit of both.
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Speaker 2: Like that's it's crazy, And I feel so bad for her because I think it's it's hard enough to find one, but to find two and then have to give them both away, it's such.
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Speaker 3: A slap in the face, Like, yeah, that never happens. That never happens on Survivor. It's the first time she's.
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Speaker 4: Saying that giving this a way to Rizzo this time is gonna she's gonna use her advantage anyway.
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Speaker 2: Well yeah, And I mean, now she has two people in the game that she's given a huge advantage to, So even if she doesn't get it back, she at least has these like olive branches that she can work off of her leverage down the road.
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Speaker 3: So that in itself is really powerful.
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Speaker 2: But obviously having an idol is even is more powerful than that, because if she goes.
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Speaker 3: To tribal council, those people aren't on her tribe. They're not gonna be able to help her.
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Speaker 1: The gameplay of it is that she effectively thinks that Rizzo is going to get voted out because she wants to get it back right, so she thinks that he's a weak player out there.
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Speaker 3: That's exactly why she gave it to Ozzie two.
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Speaker 2: She thought that those two would be have a high chance of going home. So which is a good strategy, like thinking thinking who will go home?
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Speaker 3: And then she might it'll boomerang off them and then go.
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Speaker 4: To her.
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Speaker 1: CALLA wins the immunity challenge where Zach Brown shows up.
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Speaker 4: That's some high stakes. Let me tell you I would have won. I would have fought to the death for that.
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Speaker 3: You like Zach Brown, Dolores, I like, you know.
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Speaker 5: What it is.
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Speaker 4: I like Zach, but I mean, I just thought it was just a really good challenge. Like I just liked the reward was so big that I would I love challenges.
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Speaker 5: I don't like the other stuff on the island. I don't mind the challenges and stuff, But for him, I'd be fighting for it. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Well, can I ask you this. I want to know what you really think of this. Do you think that Zach Brown is a super fan or do you think his label was like, hey, we got you a primetime spot on CBS to play your new song in front of a bunch of like emaciated people and you get to do your favorite thing, which is spearfishing for some reason, do you want to go do it? Or do you think he's just like I would love to go do this because I love Survivor.
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Speaker 3: So I'll be honest with you, I didn't know who the hell he was.
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Speaker 2: Do you know that that meme of Keiky Palmer that's like, I'm sorry to this man, but I don't know this man that was me? And if I was out there, I'd be like they did that grand entrance and he was giving all these hints and I was like, wh But either way, like, any reward on Survivor is a good reward, so I was a good reward to win. And there was a lot of fish sweet plantains I have with like every meal because it's like a Cuban thing and I love that. But I personally think, like, yes, he's probably a big Survivor fan, and like maybe has asked Jeff like can I be on this season? Like twenty times and they were finally like, let's just give him a freaking like reward segment.
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Speaker 3: They're not gonna actually put him on a real.
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Speaker 2: Season, that's my guess, but they I personally thought he had too much screen time.
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Speaker 4: Well, they want, He's got a big following, so they probably want.
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Speaker 3: But like, personally, I watched Survivor to watch the contestants.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, there were.
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Speaker 2: Some people that I'm a fan, Like I'm a fan of on this season that got zero confessionals and Zach Brown got four.
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Speaker 4: He got well, that one was too much that it was like a scene. We watched him go spearfishing, we heard all about the sharks coming after him.
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Speaker 5: I get your frustration.
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Speaker 4: I didn't mind watching him because I wanted to see people eat like humans for once.
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Speaker 5: But I love that, you know, the reward of it.
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Speaker 3: I just thought it was like they could have cut it in half.
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Speaker 5: Maybe, Like I don't disagree with you, Sophie, I agree with you.
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Speaker 1: Okay, in the same vein. Do you think that Billie Eilish's really a fan or what?
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Speaker 3: So? I actually do know she is a fan.
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Speaker 2: She's a fan of the show, but I don't know she was like I need to be super part of this. I think they maybe reached out to her and was like, yeah, do you want to be a part of it? And they gave her ideas that she was a psych I think it was that way, Like she texted Jeff Prost back saying, I like the boomerang thing.
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Speaker 3: Now did the boomerang thing. But she hasn't said anything about it. Does she know that she's on this season?
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Speaker 5: She might not even know. But I do believe Zach Brown is a big fan.
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Speaker 3: I do. I do think so too.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I also think that his label was like, hey, yeah, this immunity challenge seemed like we talked about it and kind of on the top of the show, but like seemed like the hardest one thus far. It was a combination. It seemed like of it being really grueling physically, but then also you've gone so long without eating, and it really showcases how important it is get calories in your body. Like before this community challenge started, where you like, I know who's gonna win and who's gonna lose.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't have much faith in Ozzie's tribe because I've been there where you go to several tribal councils and again, like when you go to tribal council, you come back really late. You exert a lot of energy just to get to tribal Like on the behind the scenes stuff that isn't even on the show, and you're already starting off like really on a bad spot, like compared to the other tribes who have slept more, they have flint to make fire and potentially cook crabs and stuff. So they're like negative calories, negative energy, and also negative morale, like they're not they don't have a lot of confidence in themselves. And then and so I didn't have a lot of faith that they were gonna they were gonna win this.
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Speaker 1: Well I don't think Jeff did either, because he was like, so if you win the first place, you get a part sing along with Zach Brown. Then he turns the WAT two and is like, and if you get the thing, it's like, are we gonna lose?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, They're like, okay, well, I guess you already said it in stone now like yeah, right, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Warm mouth the God's ear. And then and ended up being true.
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Speaker 2: So weird, And I feel like Survivor is the only sport where they like they just like handicap the losers constantly, and that's why it creates it's like constant cycle of losing. And I hope with the next few seasons, like in the fifties, they change it because it's not fun to watch the same tribe lose. It's like the same people going to tribal council, the same like people they're focusing on in the episode.
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Speaker 3: This season's different. It's fun to watch everybody.
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Speaker 2: But I want to see a shakeup, like I want to see the reds God at tribal council, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 3: I don't want to see the same people going.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's hard to come back for that because, like I said, you're already you have negative calories, negative energy, and you don't You're already like you're like kicking the person while they're down constantly.
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Speaker 4: So how would you switch that up if you were planning this game, How the heck would you kind of switch that up so we don't see the same people all the time.
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Speaker 2: Or I think I was telling the producers out there, I'm like, you guys need to give us rice because they don't give any food anymore. So if you're not eating coconuts, you're not eating anything. And I don't think the audience cares, like they know we're suffering already if we have a little bit of rice, Like I think entertainment wise, I would have been a way bigger yap or if I had some more calories in me, I would have probably, Like I don't know, it kind of puts everybody on the same playing field going into every challenge, and maybe also more swaps, like swapping the tribes more often so that there's different strengths and weaknesses on different tribes.
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Speaker 5: I agree with that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what else.
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Speaker 1: They could I disagree.
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Speaker 5: Really, you don't like change?
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Speaker 1: Wow, let me just tell you, Like on like The Bachelor, Okay, what they would do is they this is changed. But when I was on the show, they wouldn't turn the lights off at night, so it would be really hard to sleep. Oh wow, And so you be super sleep deprived. And when you're kind of like loopy and sleep deprived, you can make good TV. It makes no sense. And like you get in fights with people for no reason or whatever. I imagine the same thing is true for like if you starve someone, they start to do crazy things because they're not like working on you know, all cylinders. Does that make sense? I think that there's a method to the madness of it all.
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Speaker 4: Well, a little bit of rice isn't going to really change Yeah, it's not going to fill my cavity. I like to eat and now it's not going to change my mood. It's just gonna give me a little bit of energy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I was watching, you know, Zach Brown kroon to all these uh these winners over there drinking beer and you know, eating their fish, and you know, a bunch of them started crying, and so Dolores said, you know.
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Speaker 5: Sophie, I'm not a crier.
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Speaker 3: I know you're not.
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Speaker 5: But like he says, I have a black heart.
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Speaker 1: Would live music and real food after nine days be something that could actually bring a tear to your eye?
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Speaker 5: Dolores, Oh, not a chance.
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Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, I'd be pissed off for it because you can't get soft now. Don't make me emotional, like I'm not gonna like I'd be mad. I'd be like, listen, I came this far without E and I can't like soften up now, Like this isn't gonna be cushy for me. I'd be actually mad.
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Speaker 3: Wouldn't annoy you seeing the other people cry?
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Speaker 5: It annoys me on a good day. Yes, I won't allow that because then you can't play the game. Get out of here.
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Speaker 1: How much did it annoy you? When we went over to Cela and Dee is emotional because she didn't get to meet Zach Brown and she's crying about that.
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Speaker 4: I'd say, yeah, no, I would yell at her. I'd be like, go to a concert when you get home, shut up.
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Speaker 3: No, And she won like she has a million dollars from.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, like she could go get a private meeting with him now on, I think, And she could even get her hair done and do some makeup too.
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Speaker 5: She had a little bit of an eye for him.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so.
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Speaker 1: So you know, Rizzo finds this boomerang idol that Genevieve sent to him, and he's pretty pumped about it. Sophie, Rizzo's gameplay in forty nine was to flaunt the idol so so often that people were kind of scared to vote for him. I think that's satan energy and gameplay will work with this group of people, So.
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Speaker 3: I would venture to say no.
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Speaker 2: But the good thing about this season is there's so much big fish to fry, Like there's a winner still left in the game, there's runner up still left in the game. There's physical go huge threats in the game where I feel like these people might be like Frizzo with an idol, Well I don't.
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Speaker 3: They don't even know he has it yet, but like it doesn't matter. Yeah, it doesn't matter.
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Speaker 2: I feel like even if he doesn't have it, like they're not gonna be like, let's get Rizzo out when we have this huge beast in Jonathan, or we have d who won previously. Like, I think he's in a pretty good spot, even though Charlie has this like weird vendetta against him, Like, I think he's in a good spot.
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Speaker 1: VANTSU. There seems to be consensus to vote for Angelina to break up the David v. Goliath alliance. It's very funny to watch this show because whoever they are gonna go after in the beginning is never the person that ends up being, you know, voted out at the end. Mike has conducted operations save Angelina, and he tries to push everyone to vote for Emily instead. Christian, of course, doesn't want to vote for Emily because he's been working with her since day one. Mike compares Christian's alliance with Emily to his alliance with Gabby and David versus Goliath. Were you surprised that Christian got emotional in this interview and talking about a move from seven years ago. Or is this just him being good at making TV?
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Speaker 2: I think he's just I mean, from what I've heard from people, I think he's just good at making TV.
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Speaker 5: But he's very performative.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I honestly like it gets to me too, like I'm rooting for him on this season and I shouldn't because he voted my girl Savannah out.
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Speaker 3: But he I don't know. I think he does a really good job. I think he was in that moment justifying what he was ultimately gonna do. Yeah, and I don't I don't know if it was a good game move.
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Speaker 5: But I don't know.
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Speaker 3: What do you guys think? Do you think it was a good move for him to.
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Speaker 1: Do career wise?
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Speaker 2: No Game one survivor game career.
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Speaker 5: I think it was a good game move.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So here here's the thing. I think that everyone has been starking Mike White. I get it, but it's a little too much. It's like he's he's got an advantage. He's got this advantage. You know, he's got this idol that he found, which is that he makes a television show that everyone wants to be on, so no one wants to piss him off. Yeah, having an advantage makes you dangerous in this game. Also, he's super smart and he's very very he's manipulate. He's a good one.
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Speaker 5: Charismatic, yes, and like he acts like humble.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Now for his career, not great because he's not going to get to be the White Lotus season seven or whatever.
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Speaker 3: And he was all right.
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Speaker 2: That was why I was so shocking because they are real friends in real life, like Angelina and Christian both had cameos on The White Lotus and so I was shocked that he did that because here's why I think it's a bad move. Okay, because Mike was someone who probably would have never turned on Christian in the game, and he did that in order to save Emily, who seems like a pretty like unreliable ally like she's saying all the information he's giving her. She goes to Oz and tells him that that Aubrey had an idol like she did that whole mess after he So I'm like, why get out someone you know has your back for fact over like a wild card like Emily.
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Speaker 5: But I guess he has a crash on Emily.
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Speaker 3: He has a wife and kid, so no on the island.
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Speaker 5: Crush game Crush.
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Speaker 1: I think it's smart because I think that he's not going to be able to manipulate Mike, but he.
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Speaker 2: Can, Okay, I could see that. Yeah, And and Mike likes to take control and you saw that. And I think he played his cards too early on because he is really good at convincing people to do things. But maybe it was he was pushing his agenda. I think a little too much. With these all stars. They read into that quickly, and I think it caught up to him and they were like, Okay, no, this is gonna just keep happening.
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Speaker 3: And he's got a bulldoze like he did the first season he played.
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Speaker 1: So how dangerous is it or was it smart? Keeping Aussie out of the loop?
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Speaker 3: I mean Ozzie.
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Speaker 2: I don't think Ozzie's very spiteful, so I feel like it'll be fine, But.
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Speaker 3: It was probably good.
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Speaker 2: I think telling Ozzie would have only done damage, Like they got what they wanted done, so I think it was a smart move.
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Speaker 1: Does Christian need to pull Emily aside and be like, you need to shut up, you need to stop. I think so stop doing what you're doing, Yes.
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Speaker 5: Which doesn't she know better?
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Speaker 3: She does, but this is why she's on season fifty.
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Speaker 2: She did this on her first season, Like People online caller Emily flip flop because she's always like her last name is flip Flippin' and they call her flip flop.
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Speaker 5: Because she's a lot of flip floppers.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think it.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it makes the game interesting when they cast people like that, So I think that's why she's on this season. I mean, it's great TV, but as an ally in the game, it's horrible to have because you never know what's gonna happen, which is why I was like, I don't know if that was right to get Mike out.
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Speaker 3: What they should have done was get Stephanie out, who is already alone, and he could have had both Emily and Mike who ride for him in the game.
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Speaker 1: Still, we had Stephen Fish back on the show and he told us that he has a theory of whoever Jeff talks to at tribal first will be the one going home, and that seems to that held true with Mike. Yeah, well, it's interesting that you know he's Jeff is a producer he knows what everyone's going to do, so then he he has to get things out of people before it's too late, right, so him be a little telling And I thought that was interesting. And then just what came out of Mike's mouth I thought was interesting as well. Think Dolores, I agree with you.
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Speaker 5: I agree.
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Speaker 4: And being that he is a producer now, like you could kind of get what's going on by watching now that you said that, what he's doing, Yeah, because I know when you use your producer mind, you're like, oh, okay, you try to figure out the game wells before it happens, before they even know what's happening. You can't predict who's going next, right because it's not produced.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, but you're kind of like doing that. But I could see what you're saying.
00:24:20
Speaker 1: I remember when I was on The Bachelor, Uh, when we were doing rose ceremonies. You know, obviously there's it's so I assume it's similar to Survivor, where there's a lot of cameras. Yeah, and so there's a lot of people that they're trying to get coverage of. But when we were doing rose ceremonies, I always noticed who was like not going to be getting a rose because the camera and point to one person and get all the cover up like trying to oh okay, and you'd be like, well, that guy's screwed because yeah, one's point. All the cameras are poining at that guy. And it's like a similar thing of like, Jeff, why are you talking to me right now?
00:24:57
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, right, how are you.
00:24:59
Speaker 1: Having the camera the pointed at me right now?
00:25:01
Speaker 2: In the moment you only see like ten minutes of a maybe even less of a tribal and it's really like over an hour for us. So he's asking everybody like a lot of questions.
00:25:10
Speaker 5: Oh, but you're only saying, okay.
00:25:13
Speaker 3: Choose what they put in interesting, Okay, So it's in the edit.
00:25:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't want to tip anybody off at all at any moment, Like they really don't interfere. And Jeff is really good at like not giving any clues and like being hard to read at tribles. So because I try to look into that too as a fan, like watching the showback, I'm like, oh, I have this in the bag, Like if I'm sitting in the middle, I'm in a good spot.
00:25:35
Speaker 3: Or if I'm asked this question, you know, but when you're there out the window, like they have that downpack, which is cool.
00:25:42
Speaker 1: It's kind of like on Traders, Dolores of like the way that people come into breakfast, you can find out a lot about who they are, right, So if you're part of the last couple people that come into breakfast, that means you are almost going to be murdered, and usually a trader is also coming in with them.
00:26:00
Speaker 3: Would you guys ever think about that when you were playing the Traders though?
00:26:03
Speaker 5: Like not when we were there? Well, I mean did you think about that.
00:26:07
Speaker 1: When you only made it to one breakfast?
00:26:09
Speaker 4: So I didn't really do that, you know what, soph I didn't really know the the game isn't around fifty seasons Traders, right, so we don't have we didn't have a lot to learn from with There was only three seasons before or what two seasons before us?
00:26:27
Speaker 5: That's true.
00:26:28
Speaker 4: Besides the other things say, so there wasn't like my son who's like big into like logistics and strategies, he's like, mom, I think he said something I don't remember, like the trader will walk in last, or a possible trader will be like second to last. But I don't think that's even true. It's just hard.
00:26:46
Speaker 5: It's hard.
00:26:47
Speaker 1: Yeah. So Jeff turns to Emily and she admits that she has this sinking feeling and the vibes feel off to her. Do you think Emily said this to get Mike off their scent or does tribal Council actually caused that much paranoia.
00:27:04
Speaker 2: I think both can be true, because she was on the chopping block, she had heard her name that day, so maybe she did.
00:27:10
Speaker 3: Feel some off vibes.
00:27:12
Speaker 2: But also a big part of playing Survivors making sure that the person going home has no idea because there's the shot in the dark in the game, which is basically like a one in six shot of like being safe that you could choose to like forfeit your vote instead of like voting, you get, like you pick out of a bag, a shot in the dark. And so that was our strategy on our season, like, if we're voting someone out, we cannot let them have any idea because we don't want them to take that chance of getting the shot in the dark.
00:27:41
Speaker 3: So maybe she was trying to throw him off.
00:27:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well, Christian's plan worked. Three votes went to Mike, two votes went to Emily, one went to Angelina, So he seemed really really blindsided. Do you think that he like, he doesn't care about the honey, He's got enough of it. But do you think that he was just surprised or what do you think is going through his head?
00:28:06
Speaker 3: Well?
00:28:06
Speaker 2: I think you were right that he probably went into this season also thinking he had a leg up over everybody because of the white lotus and because people were gonna have like this blind loyalty for him and just to listen to anything he said, and so he was trying to like spearhead this vote. And then he also had his two friends from his original season backing him up, where he probably had full faith in them. And so I genuinely feel like he was completely blindsided and did not expect that to happen at all. I mean, he only went home with three votes like that rarely happens.
00:28:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, so there was a possible there was a chance that it couldn't have happened too. So I don't know that.
00:28:45
Speaker 1: Was he was super shocked.
00:28:47
Speaker 3: Shocked.
00:28:48
Speaker 1: Buzzie is angry gone, Yeah? Is his anger justified?
00:28:59
Speaker 3: Yeah?
00:28:59
Speaker 2: For I was left out of one vote on Survivor and I was so pissed.
00:29:04
Speaker 3: I was like, who the hell lied to me? I went up to my allies who didn't lie to me, and I was like, did you do that? Like because I was shocked, I was like, what the hell?
00:29:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like such a like betrayal, but it's part of the game, and so yeah, he has a right to be mad. But I think if you want to do well in the game, you have to get over it quick because just because they liked you doesn't mean they don't want.
00:29:24
Speaker 3: To work with you moving forward. They probably just didn't want you to ruin what was happening and their plan, So hopefully he doesn't want to get to him.
00:29:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, is this gonna come back and buy Christian in the ass?
00:29:35
Speaker 3: I think it could, Like it could go either way.
00:29:38
Speaker 2: He might have like increased his chances or really like got rid of a person who would have rode for him to the end.
00:29:45
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:29:45
Speaker 5: Yeah, well he won't know now.
00:29:47
Speaker 1: But this poor tribe, like the vultures are picking the bones, like there's like no one left here last thing. Who do you think is gonna win this thing? And who do you think is the next person to go home?
00:30:04
Speaker 2: Ooh, that's such a good question. Well, I don't know again, I think it's wishful thinking. But she's also in a really good spot. I think Serie might win this thing, like she's doing so well, so I'm like, I feel like, how could she not at this point?
00:30:22
Speaker 3: But there's still so many people left.
00:30:24
Speaker 4: How couldn't anyone not want to get her out first? She won single handily won Traders first season. She's the biggest threat on the show.
00:30:34
Speaker 5: To me, she'd have to go.
00:30:36
Speaker 1: I agree, And she's not that great and challenge either though. You know, that's why.
00:30:41
Speaker 2: I think personally why she's not being targeted right now, because a big part of the game is those individual immunities, and they probably all feel like, oh, I can get her out later, Like we can always get her out later. She's not going to be immune when these when it becomes an individual game. So that's and that's and then also they're all like, we love her, we love She's such a big threat, but we love her. And that's like series missed. You know, she she she casts that like thing over you where she you know you should probably get her out, but then you don't want to.
00:31:11
Speaker 5: For some no, I would want to.
00:31:13
Speaker 4: I saw her on Traders like she just sat there at the end and she's like, yeah, sorry, yeah, she don't flinch. She plays the game with no emotion at all at all, but winning do not like, how could anyone underestimate her? And I'm not a gamer, but I know that much, right.
00:31:33
Speaker 3: I agree. I agree with you. I think that they're they're making a huge mistake, like not looking at her.
00:31:37
Speaker 5: Mike, no threat to me, those other people, no threat to me. She's the one, I agree.
00:31:44
Speaker 1: And who do you think is going to be the next one?
00:31:46
Speaker 4: Now?
00:31:49
Speaker 2: So, I mean, you guys saw that trailer they're talking about Charlie and Rizzo. Yeah, so I'm gonna say one of them or I'm just gonna go. I'm gonna go Christian because you put that in my mind. Now though, like he's been getting a lot of screen time, this might bite him the butt. Maybe Christian goes next week.
00:32:07
Speaker 5: I'd hate to see him go. He's so fun like he's he's a character.
00:32:10
Speaker 1: Good at TV.
00:32:11
Speaker 3: He is good TV. But there's gonna be two tribal councils. So two people are going home next week?
00:32:15
Speaker 1: Oh two?
00:32:16
Speaker 5: P okay? So with two people, we think.
00:32:18
Speaker 4: Christian possibly and and your buddy he's going.
00:32:28
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm sure some of it.
00:32:30
Speaker 4: I have the cutest co hosts, the best ever.
00:32:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sophie didn't like it when Rizzo did it, but DeLaura likes it. I soby thank you so much for coming on by order of the Faithful Survivor Edition. You've got a lot going on. Is there anything that you want to promote? Where can people find you? Where can people follow you? All that stuff?
00:32:52
Speaker 2: Nothing I want to promote, but there's something I want to say. So, first of all, Wells, you are a fan like favorite in my household.
00:33:00
Speaker 3: You have been for like the last.
00:33:01
Speaker 2: Decade, like me and my family, like my my friends, my sister, and my mom. The people we watched The Bachelor with were like, if Wells isn't on the on Paradise this summer, we're not watching it because if they're gonna take Chris Harrison away, they're not gonna.
00:33:12
Speaker 3: Take Wells away too.
00:33:13
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:33:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm a fan of you.
00:33:16
Speaker 2: And then Dolores, I have loved you for so long. I don't even know think you know this because you probably follow a lot of people on Instagram, but you actually follow me on Instagram because I sent you this.
00:33:27
Speaker 3: I was in my.
00:33:28
Speaker 2: Fields one day when I was like eighteen, and I sent you this like long message saying how much I loved you and how much am a mom figure.
00:33:36
Speaker 3: I see you because you're so amazing say that.
00:33:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we need more people like you on the Housewives, with level headed and not crazy and.
00:33:45
Speaker 3: Liken it and.
00:33:48
Speaker 2: Not a black heart but like a steady heart and someone who who just you're just real and I love you and I love you both.
00:33:55
Speaker 3: And you don't understand what meant amazing go on here.
00:33:58
Speaker 2: I'm sure you have people who like don't even know who you are. You don't know them, you don't know me. But I love you, guys, and I appreciate this opportunity. And yeah, I'm on TikTok and Instagram Sophie Blerdy you can follow me there.
00:34:09
Speaker 5: But yeah, we love Sophie.
00:34:11
Speaker 1: We love Sophie. And tell your family thank you for for uh.
00:34:15
Speaker 3: I will trust me.
00:34:18
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. And also I just want you to know that I have picked your Blue Devils to win this final. Let's go.
00:34:27
Speaker 2: I need somebody so have so hopefully we win together.
00:34:32
Speaker 1: So yes, well, thank you again, so much.
00:34:34
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you guys. Have a great day.
00:34:38
Speaker 5: I love you bye.
00:34:39
Speaker 1: She's the best, and now I gotta go follow her because apparently you already do, and now I feel bad about it.
00:34:45
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't really have a black heart. I'm just.
00:34:50
Speaker 1: No, you're not. You're the best everyone out there. Thank you so much for listening to by order of the Faithful Survivor Edition. We'll be back again next week with another interview from a past member of a Survivor's season, and we'll be recapping episode five where, well Sophie said it, two people will be going home, so it's going to be a good one. Dolores, have a lovely week.
00:35:11
Speaker 5: Thank you, Love you guys. Banks
Speaker 1: Welcome into my Order of the Faithful's Survivor edition Wells. Here, along with Dolores Catanai, we are joined by Sophie Blairdie. She was runner up on season forty nine. You are watching this with us back again? How fun is it to watch season fifty and know that you're not on that beach?
00:00:25
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's so nice, especially coming off the heels of like being in the center of Microscope for the last season.
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Speaker 3: I can now relax and be a fan again and.
00:00:34
Speaker 2: Watch season fifty these icons and also my friends who are on season forty nine with me, So it's extra special this season to watch as a bit I'm sure.
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Speaker 4: But even knowing the behind the scenes now, Sophie, like, tell us now that you're watching it as a viewer, because I'm I do this with traders, Like I know now what it was.
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Speaker 5: I really like that day and how long it took and all that type of staff.
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Speaker 4: Is there, Like is it like more exciting just knowing what they're actually going, Like you got to know like by the third day, like they're frigging hungry.
00:01:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's true. I remember watching this episode back.
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Speaker 2: I was like, damn, that's a really hard challenge for it to be like day eight or nine, because at this point you're hitting like your first hump of hunger, and like your body is starting to react to it in a weird way where like when you stand up from sitting down and you get a little foggy and a little dizzy, and then you're having to do these grueling challenges at the random point of the day, like at the hottest point of the day, and it's so taxing on your body. And I really felt for them, just like knowing how it fell out there.
00:01:42
Speaker 4: I feel empathetic now, right, you're literally feeling.
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Speaker 2: It because we're seeing like such a little like piece of it and they're dealing with it the whole day.
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Speaker 1: So physically, yeah, well, and you're watching, you know, want to like try to do that challenge and they, you know, cues gone now, and so like it's just it's Mike and Ozzy are like the strong guys on that team, and you can see that they have no more energy, Like they can't even get that boat through that net. And I was thinking the same thing. I was like, these guys haven't eaten, they haven't had flint since like the Reagan administration, like they're so screwed. Let's let's let's just rip through the episode kind of beat by beat, you know, after the Tribal Council, Ozzie's determined to become Mike White's number one. Ally is he doing that for the game or because he wants to be on the next season of White Lotus.
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Speaker 3: I think I know, Ozzy.
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Speaker 2: I feel like he's doing it for a cameo on the White Lotus.
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Speaker 5: That's so funny.
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Speaker 3: Hey, what you gotta do, what you gotta do.
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Speaker 2: He's thinking the wrong opportunities. He's thinking past survivor, which is smart, and I think that's probably why he was so upset out to the you know, the episode and I'm jumping but like, yeah, I think it was maybe a little bit of both.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, fair enough. Cela's having a talent show. Uh yeah, I think this is I imagine a lot of this stuff happens that gets left on the cutting room floor with you guys.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you need fillers for the time, right, Like us are sitting on an island.
00:03:17
Speaker 5: What are you gonna do? Entertain each other?
00:03:19
Speaker 3: I agree.
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Speaker 2: I just thought, like with so many fan favorites left, like I was surprised that they left that, like there's surely there's something Serie's doing that's more entertaining than than Rizzo doing a Mickey Mouse impression really good. I mean, I am glad they left it in because I had to hear that stupid impression every night on forty.
00:03:37
Speaker 3: Nine and I actually had to tell I love Yes, I love him. He's like a little brother to me.
00:03:43
Speaker 2: But like he I told him before fifty I'm like, don't do that impression.
00:03:47
Speaker 3: Like these people are gonna hate you. And I guess it worked out for him on this show.
00:03:51
Speaker 1: He won. He won, I mean, but.
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Speaker 3: Charlie's targeting him now though, so I don't know if.
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Speaker 4: That's Charlie really is. Do you think Charlie's justified for not like him so much?
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Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys remember, but the reason why he's targeting him is because told them that he didn't.
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Speaker 5: Vote for me. Yeah, and he can't get over it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And I mean selfishly, I'm like, thank you, Charlie, that's really nice. I wish he would have voted for me.
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Speaker 2: But I at the same time, I think getting one track minded on Survivor is pretty dangerous, Like if there's not a real reason to go after someone like Rizzo seems to want to work with Charlie. That's something that I feel like you should keep in mind more than like a personal vendetta you might have or some baggage you're carrying from a previous season. So I don't know if this is gonna work out and my poor friend is gonna get voted out, or it's gonna bite Charlie in the butt.
00:04:39
Speaker 1: I have a feeling that Charlie is annoyed by Rizzo and he's looking for something to things to get, so he's like using this this grudge thing just because he's like, I gotta get this, Miki.
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Speaker 5: He's annoying.
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Speaker 4: We don't mean to call your friend annoying, but like we just think the other people think he's annoying.
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Speaker 1: That's what I think's happening. I could be wrong.
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Speaker 2: It's happened on our season two. I feel like Rizzo, I like, superficially. If you don't know him deeply, you might think that because he's just especially all these older players, they're looking at him like this little immature person.
00:05:15
Speaker 4: Started crying in the first episode. Sophie, you know there's no room for tears on this damn island.
00:05:21
Speaker 2: I know, but to be fair, he had just played twenty five days, like a week before.
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Speaker 4: These people are true, but we didn't think of it that way. We didn't know he only had a nine day break and the kid just wants to go home and have McDonald's at this point.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, no, I don't know. I feel like that could be happening. People are getting annoyed of him, But I guess I feel like with the trailer we saw for next week, it's gonna come to a head at some point soon, So I'm excited to see what happens.
00:05:47
Speaker 5: Yeah, I bet he wishes you were there to have his back now, for sure.
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Speaker 3: For sure.
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Speaker 1: Back at the Collo Tribe, Aubrey's looking for an idol in Genevieve's calling for her, screaming like recal a commercial which is a chef's kiss, and the fact that like there wasn't a rical a commercial when we went to break is a huge miss on CBS's partner. Sure I'm not in the ad sales over there and aternative events. Genevieve finds the idol instead, she gets her second boomerang idol and sends it to Rizzo. She's not telling anyone this time, even her closest allies about it. So Sophie paint a picture for us. How hard is it to find idols out there?
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Speaker 3: It is so hard.
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Speaker 2: I thought that they were going to be so easily visible, but I think what happens is like they're not there the whole time, because you will look and look and look, and like you'll look in the same tree that it ends up being in, but like you know, it wasn't put It wasn't there, Okay, So I think that they pick and choose when they put it in there, but it is really really hard to find it. Like even when I didn't find an idol, but I found an advantage and it was like the same thing, like in the same little package and idols in so I it was like in the tiny crevice of this huge tree. And I don't know how I ended up seeing it, but it.
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Speaker 5: Was your grandmother.
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Speaker 3: I genuinely think it was that.
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Speaker 2: Because I don't know how I saw it, I could have missed it like this, if I would have like turned my head a little quicker, it would have been missed.
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Speaker 4: So do you think Genevieve's finding this two of these idols is talent or luck?
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Speaker 3: I don't I think a little bit of both.
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Speaker 2: Like that's it's crazy, And I feel so bad for her because I think it's it's hard enough to find one, but to find two and then have to give them both away, it's such.
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Speaker 3: A slap in the face, Like, yeah, that never happens. That never happens on Survivor. It's the first time she's.
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Speaker 4: Saying that giving this a way to Rizzo this time is gonna she's gonna use her advantage anyway.
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Speaker 2: Well yeah, And I mean, now she has two people in the game that she's given a huge advantage to, So even if she doesn't get it back, she at least has these like olive branches that she can work off of her leverage down the road.
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Speaker 3: So that in itself is really powerful.
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Speaker 2: But obviously having an idol is even is more powerful than that, because if she goes.
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Speaker 3: To tribal council, those people aren't on her tribe. They're not gonna be able to help her.
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Speaker 1: The gameplay of it is that she effectively thinks that Rizzo is going to get voted out because she wants to get it back right, so she thinks that he's a weak player out there.
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Speaker 3: That's exactly why she gave it to Ozzie two.
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Speaker 2: She thought that those two would be have a high chance of going home. So which is a good strategy, like thinking thinking who will go home?
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Speaker 3: And then she might it'll boomerang off them and then go.
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Speaker 4: To her.
00:08:42
Speaker 1: CALLA wins the immunity challenge where Zach Brown shows up.
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Speaker 4: That's some high stakes. Let me tell you I would have won. I would have fought to the death for that.
00:08:56
Speaker 3: You like Zach Brown, Dolores, I like, you know.
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Speaker 5: What it is.
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Speaker 4: I like Zach, but I mean, I just thought it was just a really good challenge. Like I just liked the reward was so big that I would I love challenges.
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Speaker 5: I don't like the other stuff on the island. I don't mind the challenges and stuff, But for him, I'd be fighting for it. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Well, can I ask you this. I want to know what you really think of this. Do you think that Zach Brown is a super fan or do you think his label was like, hey, we got you a primetime spot on CBS to play your new song in front of a bunch of like emaciated people and you get to do your favorite thing, which is spearfishing for some reason, do you want to go do it? Or do you think he's just like I would love to go do this because I love Survivor.
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Speaker 3: So I'll be honest with you, I didn't know who the hell he was.
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Speaker 2: Do you know that that meme of Keiky Palmer that's like, I'm sorry to this man, but I don't know this man that was me? And if I was out there, I'd be like they did that grand entrance and he was giving all these hints and I was like, wh But either way, like, any reward on Survivor is a good reward, so I was a good reward to win. And there was a lot of fish sweet plantains I have with like every meal because it's like a Cuban thing and I love that. But I personally think, like, yes, he's probably a big Survivor fan, and like maybe has asked Jeff like can I be on this season? Like twenty times and they were finally like, let's just give him a freaking like reward segment.
00:10:24
Speaker 3: They're not gonna actually put him on a real.
00:10:25
Speaker 2: Season, that's my guess, but they I personally thought he had too much screen time.
00:10:32
Speaker 4: Well, they want, He's got a big following, so they probably want.
00:10:36
Speaker 3: But like, personally, I watched Survivor to watch the contestants.
00:10:39
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, there were.
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Speaker 2: Some people that I'm a fan, Like I'm a fan of on this season that got zero confessionals and Zach Brown got four.
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Speaker 4: He got well, that one was too much that it was like a scene. We watched him go spearfishing, we heard all about the sharks coming after him.
00:10:56
Speaker 5: I get your frustration.
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Speaker 4: I didn't mind watching him because I wanted to see people eat like humans for once.
00:11:02
Speaker 5: But I love that, you know, the reward of it.
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Speaker 3: I just thought it was like they could have cut it in half.
00:11:08
Speaker 5: Maybe, Like I don't disagree with you, Sophie, I agree with you.
00:11:12
Speaker 1: Okay, in the same vein. Do you think that Billie Eilish's really a fan or what?
00:11:17
Speaker 3: So? I actually do know she is a fan.
00:11:20
Speaker 2: She's a fan of the show, but I don't know she was like I need to be super part of this. I think they maybe reached out to her and was like, yeah, do you want to be a part of it? And they gave her ideas that she was a psych I think it was that way, Like she texted Jeff Prost back saying, I like the boomerang thing.
00:11:35
Speaker 3: Now did the boomerang thing. But she hasn't said anything about it. Does she know that she's on this season?
00:11:42
Speaker 5: She might not even know. But I do believe Zach Brown is a big fan.
00:11:46
Speaker 3: I do. I do think so too.
00:11:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I also think that his label was like, hey, yeah, this immunity challenge seemed like we talked about it and kind of on the top of the show, but like seemed like the hardest one thus far. It was a combination. It seemed like of it being really grueling physically, but then also you've gone so long without eating, and it really showcases how important it is get calories in your body. Like before this community challenge started, where you like, I know who's gonna win and who's gonna lose.
00:12:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't have much faith in Ozzie's tribe because I've been there where you go to several tribal councils and again, like when you go to tribal council, you come back really late. You exert a lot of energy just to get to tribal Like on the behind the scenes stuff that isn't even on the show, and you're already starting off like really on a bad spot, like compared to the other tribes who have slept more, they have flint to make fire and potentially cook crabs and stuff. So they're like negative calories, negative energy, and also negative morale, like they're not they don't have a lot of confidence in themselves. And then and so I didn't have a lot of faith that they were gonna they were gonna win this.
00:13:03
Speaker 1: Well I don't think Jeff did either, because he was like, so if you win the first place, you get a part sing along with Zach Brown. Then he turns the WAT two and is like, and if you get the thing, it's like, are we gonna lose?
00:13:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, They're like, okay, well, I guess you already said it in stone now like yeah, right, yeah.
00:13:22
Speaker 1: Warm mouth the God's ear. And then and ended up being true.
00:13:26
Speaker 2: So weird, And I feel like Survivor is the only sport where they like they just like handicap the losers constantly, and that's why it creates it's like constant cycle of losing. And I hope with the next few seasons, like in the fifties, they change it because it's not fun to watch the same tribe lose. It's like the same people going to tribal council, the same like people they're focusing on in the episode.
00:13:49
Speaker 3: This season's different. It's fun to watch everybody.
00:13:51
Speaker 2: But I want to see a shakeup, like I want to see the reds God at tribal council, you know what I mean.
00:13:56
Speaker 3: I don't want to see the same people going.
00:13:58
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's hard to come back for that because, like I said, you're already you have negative calories, negative energy, and you don't You're already like you're like kicking the person while they're down constantly.
00:14:10
Speaker 4: So how would you switch that up if you were planning this game, How the heck would you kind of switch that up so we don't see the same people all the time.
00:14:20
Speaker 2: Or I think I was telling the producers out there, I'm like, you guys need to give us rice because they don't give any food anymore. So if you're not eating coconuts, you're not eating anything. And I don't think the audience cares, like they know we're suffering already if we have a little bit of rice, Like I think entertainment wise, I would have been a way bigger yap or if I had some more calories in me, I would have probably, Like I don't know, it kind of puts everybody on the same playing field going into every challenge, and maybe also more swaps, like swapping the tribes more often so that there's different strengths and weaknesses on different tribes.
00:14:58
Speaker 5: I agree with that.
00:14:59
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what else.
00:15:01
Speaker 1: They could I disagree.
00:15:03
Speaker 5: Really, you don't like change?
00:15:05
Speaker 1: Wow, let me just tell you, Like on like The Bachelor, Okay, what they would do is they this is changed. But when I was on the show, they wouldn't turn the lights off at night, so it would be really hard to sleep. Oh wow, And so you be super sleep deprived. And when you're kind of like loopy and sleep deprived, you can make good TV. It makes no sense. And like you get in fights with people for no reason or whatever. I imagine the same thing is true for like if you starve someone, they start to do crazy things because they're not like working on you know, all cylinders. Does that make sense? I think that there's a method to the madness of it all.
00:15:50
Speaker 4: Well, a little bit of rice isn't going to really change Yeah, it's not going to fill my cavity. I like to eat and now it's not going to change my mood. It's just gonna give me a little bit of energy.
00:16:02
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:16:03
Speaker 1: I was watching, you know, Zach Brown kroon to all these uh these winners over there drinking beer and you know, eating their fish, and you know, a bunch of them started crying, and so Dolores said, you know.
00:16:17
Speaker 5: Sophie, I'm not a crier.
00:16:20
Speaker 3: I know you're not.
00:16:22
Speaker 5: But like he says, I have a black heart.
00:16:26
Speaker 1: Would live music and real food after nine days be something that could actually bring a tear to your eye?
00:16:31
Speaker 5: Dolores, Oh, not a chance.
00:16:34
Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, I'd be pissed off for it because you can't get soft now. Don't make me emotional, like I'm not gonna like I'd be mad. I'd be like, listen, I came this far without E and I can't like soften up now, Like this isn't gonna be cushy for me. I'd be actually mad.
00:16:49
Speaker 3: Wouldn't annoy you seeing the other people cry?
00:16:51
Speaker 5: It annoys me on a good day. Yes, I won't allow that because then you can't play the game. Get out of here.
00:16:57
Speaker 1: How much did it annoy you? When we went over to Cela and Dee is emotional because she didn't get to meet Zach Brown and she's crying about that.
00:17:07
Speaker 4: I'd say, yeah, no, I would yell at her. I'd be like, go to a concert when you get home, shut up.
00:17:13
Speaker 3: No, And she won like she has a million dollars from.
00:17:15
Speaker 4: Yeah, like she could go get a private meeting with him now on, I think, And she could even get her hair done and do some makeup too.
00:17:22
Speaker 5: She had a little bit of an eye for him.
00:17:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so.
00:17:26
Speaker 1: So you know, Rizzo finds this boomerang idol that Genevieve sent to him, and he's pretty pumped about it. Sophie, Rizzo's gameplay in forty nine was to flaunt the idol so so often that people were kind of scared to vote for him. I think that's satan energy and gameplay will work with this group of people, So.
00:17:47
Speaker 3: I would venture to say no.
00:17:49
Speaker 2: But the good thing about this season is there's so much big fish to fry, Like there's a winner still left in the game, there's runner up still left in the game. There's physical go huge threats in the game where I feel like these people might be like Frizzo with an idol, Well I don't.
00:18:06
Speaker 3: They don't even know he has it yet, but like it doesn't matter. Yeah, it doesn't matter.
00:18:10
Speaker 2: I feel like even if he doesn't have it, like they're not gonna be like, let's get Rizzo out when we have this huge beast in Jonathan, or we have d who won previously. Like, I think he's in a pretty good spot, even though Charlie has this like weird vendetta against him, Like, I think he's in a good spot.
00:18:24
Speaker 1: VANTSU. There seems to be consensus to vote for Angelina to break up the David v. Goliath alliance. It's very funny to watch this show because whoever they are gonna go after in the beginning is never the person that ends up being, you know, voted out at the end. Mike has conducted operations save Angelina, and he tries to push everyone to vote for Emily instead. Christian, of course, doesn't want to vote for Emily because he's been working with her since day one. Mike compares Christian's alliance with Emily to his alliance with Gabby and David versus Goliath. Were you surprised that Christian got emotional in this interview and talking about a move from seven years ago. Or is this just him being good at making TV?
00:19:08
Speaker 2: I think he's just I mean, from what I've heard from people, I think he's just good at making TV.
00:19:13
Speaker 5: But he's very performative.
00:19:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I honestly like it gets to me too, like I'm rooting for him on this season and I shouldn't because he voted my girl Savannah out.
00:19:23
Speaker 3: But he I don't know. I think he does a really good job. I think he was in that moment justifying what he was ultimately gonna do. Yeah, and I don't I don't know if it was a good game move.
00:19:34
Speaker 5: But I don't know.
00:19:36
Speaker 3: What do you guys think? Do you think it was a good move for him to.
00:19:38
Speaker 1: Do career wise?
00:19:41
Speaker 2: No Game one survivor game career.
00:19:46
Speaker 5: I think it was a good game move.
00:19:48
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:19:48
Speaker 1: So here here's the thing. I think that everyone has been starking Mike White. I get it, but it's a little too much. It's like he's he's got an advantage. He's got this advantage. You know, he's got this idol that he found, which is that he makes a television show that everyone wants to be on, so no one wants to piss him off. Yeah, having an advantage makes you dangerous in this game. Also, he's super smart and he's very very he's manipulate. He's a good one.
00:20:18
Speaker 5: Charismatic, yes, and like he acts like humble.
00:20:21
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:20:22
Speaker 1: Now for his career, not great because he's not going to get to be the White Lotus season seven or whatever.
00:20:30
Speaker 3: And he was all right.
00:20:31
Speaker 2: That was why I was so shocking because they are real friends in real life, like Angelina and Christian both had cameos on The White Lotus and so I was shocked that he did that because here's why I think it's a bad move. Okay, because Mike was someone who probably would have never turned on Christian in the game, and he did that in order to save Emily, who seems like a pretty like unreliable ally like she's saying all the information he's giving her. She goes to Oz and tells him that that Aubrey had an idol like she did that whole mess after he So I'm like, why get out someone you know has your back for fact over like a wild card like Emily.
00:21:12
Speaker 5: But I guess he has a crash on Emily.
00:21:16
Speaker 3: He has a wife and kid, so no on the island.
00:21:19
Speaker 5: Crush game Crush.
00:21:21
Speaker 1: I think it's smart because I think that he's not going to be able to manipulate Mike, but he.
00:21:27
Speaker 2: Can, Okay, I could see that. Yeah, And and Mike likes to take control and you saw that. And I think he played his cards too early on because he is really good at convincing people to do things. But maybe it was he was pushing his agenda. I think a little too much. With these all stars. They read into that quickly, and I think it caught up to him and they were like, Okay, no, this is gonna just keep happening.
00:21:50
Speaker 3: And he's got a bulldoze like he did the first season he played.
00:21:53
Speaker 1: So how dangerous is it or was it smart? Keeping Aussie out of the loop?
00:22:01
Speaker 3: I mean Ozzie.
00:22:03
Speaker 2: I don't think Ozzie's very spiteful, so I feel like it'll be fine, But.
00:22:10
Speaker 3: It was probably good.
00:22:11
Speaker 2: I think telling Ozzie would have only done damage, Like they got what they wanted done, so I think it was a smart move.
00:22:18
Speaker 1: Does Christian need to pull Emily aside and be like, you need to shut up, you need to stop. I think so stop doing what you're doing, Yes.
00:22:27
Speaker 5: Which doesn't she know better?
00:22:29
Speaker 3: She does, but this is why she's on season fifty.
00:22:32
Speaker 2: She did this on her first season, Like People online caller Emily flip flop because she's always like her last name is flip Flippin' and they call her flip flop.
00:22:40
Speaker 5: Because she's a lot of flip floppers.
00:22:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think it.
00:22:43
Speaker 2: I mean, it makes the game interesting when they cast people like that, So I think that's why she's on this season. I mean, it's great TV, but as an ally in the game, it's horrible to have because you never know what's gonna happen, which is why I was like, I don't know if that was right to get Mike out.
00:22:58
Speaker 3: What they should have done was get Stephanie out, who is already alone, and he could have had both Emily and Mike who ride for him in the game.
00:23:06
Speaker 1: Still, we had Stephen Fish back on the show and he told us that he has a theory of whoever Jeff talks to at tribal first will be the one going home, and that seems to that held true with Mike. Yeah, well, it's interesting that you know he's Jeff is a producer he knows what everyone's going to do, so then he he has to get things out of people before it's too late, right, so him be a little telling And I thought that was interesting. And then just what came out of Mike's mouth I thought was interesting as well. Think Dolores, I agree with you.
00:23:55
Speaker 5: I agree.
00:23:56
Speaker 4: And being that he is a producer now, like you could kind of get what's going on by watching now that you said that, what he's doing, Yeah, because I know when you use your producer mind, you're like, oh, okay, you try to figure out the game wells before it happens, before they even know what's happening. You can't predict who's going next, right because it's not produced.
00:24:15
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you're kind of like doing that. But I could see what you're saying.
00:24:20
Speaker 1: I remember when I was on The Bachelor, Uh, when we were doing rose ceremonies. You know, obviously there's it's so I assume it's similar to Survivor, where there's a lot of cameras. Yeah, and so there's a lot of people that they're trying to get coverage of. But when we were doing rose ceremonies, I always noticed who was like not going to be getting a rose because the camera and point to one person and get all the cover up like trying to oh okay, and you'd be like, well, that guy's screwed because yeah, one's point. All the cameras are poining at that guy. And it's like a similar thing of like, Jeff, why are you talking to me right now?
00:24:57
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, right, how are you.
00:24:59
Speaker 1: Having the camera the pointed at me right now?
00:25:01
Speaker 2: In the moment you only see like ten minutes of a maybe even less of a tribal and it's really like over an hour for us. So he's asking everybody like a lot of questions.
00:25:10
Speaker 5: Oh, but you're only saying, okay.
00:25:13
Speaker 3: Choose what they put in interesting, Okay, So it's in the edit.
00:25:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't want to tip anybody off at all at any moment, Like they really don't interfere. And Jeff is really good at like not giving any clues and like being hard to read at tribles. So because I try to look into that too as a fan, like watching the showback, I'm like, oh, I have this in the bag, Like if I'm sitting in the middle, I'm in a good spot.
00:25:35
Speaker 3: Or if I'm asked this question, you know, but when you're there out the window, like they have that downpack, which is cool.
00:25:42
Speaker 1: It's kind of like on Traders, Dolores of like the way that people come into breakfast, you can find out a lot about who they are, right, So if you're part of the last couple people that come into breakfast, that means you are almost going to be murdered, and usually a trader is also coming in with them.
00:26:00
Speaker 3: Would you guys ever think about that when you were playing the Traders though?
00:26:03
Speaker 5: Like not when we were there? Well, I mean did you think about that.
00:26:07
Speaker 1: When you only made it to one breakfast?
00:26:09
Speaker 4: So I didn't really do that, you know what, soph I didn't really know the the game isn't around fifty seasons Traders, right, so we don't have we didn't have a lot to learn from with There was only three seasons before or what two seasons before us?
00:26:27
Speaker 5: That's true.
00:26:28
Speaker 4: Besides the other things say, so there wasn't like my son who's like big into like logistics and strategies, he's like, mom, I think he said something I don't remember, like the trader will walk in last, or a possible trader will be like second to last. But I don't think that's even true. It's just hard.
00:26:46
Speaker 5: It's hard.
00:26:47
Speaker 1: Yeah. So Jeff turns to Emily and she admits that she has this sinking feeling and the vibes feel off to her. Do you think Emily said this to get Mike off their scent or does tribal Council actually caused that much paranoia.
00:27:04
Speaker 2: I think both can be true, because she was on the chopping block, she had heard her name that day, so maybe she did.
00:27:10
Speaker 3: Feel some off vibes.
00:27:12
Speaker 2: But also a big part of playing Survivors making sure that the person going home has no idea because there's the shot in the dark in the game, which is basically like a one in six shot of like being safe that you could choose to like forfeit your vote instead of like voting, you get, like you pick out of a bag, a shot in the dark. And so that was our strategy on our season, like, if we're voting someone out, we cannot let them have any idea because we don't want them to take that chance of getting the shot in the dark.
00:27:41
Speaker 3: So maybe she was trying to throw him off.
00:27:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well, Christian's plan worked. Three votes went to Mike, two votes went to Emily, one went to Angelina, So he seemed really really blindsided. Do you think that he like, he doesn't care about the honey, He's got enough of it. But do you think that he was just surprised or what do you think is going through his head?
00:28:06
Speaker 3: Well?
00:28:06
Speaker 2: I think you were right that he probably went into this season also thinking he had a leg up over everybody because of the white lotus and because people were gonna have like this blind loyalty for him and just to listen to anything he said, and so he was trying to like spearhead this vote. And then he also had his two friends from his original season backing him up, where he probably had full faith in them. And so I genuinely feel like he was completely blindsided and did not expect that to happen at all. I mean, he only went home with three votes like that rarely happens.
00:28:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, so there was a possible there was a chance that it couldn't have happened too. So I don't know that.
00:28:45
Speaker 1: Was he was super shocked.
00:28:47
Speaker 3: Shocked.
00:28:48
Speaker 1: Buzzie is angry gone, Yeah? Is his anger justified?
00:28:59
Speaker 3: Yeah?
00:28:59
Speaker 2: For I was left out of one vote on Survivor and I was so pissed.
00:29:04
Speaker 3: I was like, who the hell lied to me? I went up to my allies who didn't lie to me, and I was like, did you do that? Like because I was shocked, I was like, what the hell?
00:29:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like such a like betrayal, but it's part of the game, and so yeah, he has a right to be mad. But I think if you want to do well in the game, you have to get over it quick because just because they liked you doesn't mean they don't want.
00:29:24
Speaker 3: To work with you moving forward. They probably just didn't want you to ruin what was happening and their plan, So hopefully he doesn't want to get to him.
00:29:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, is this gonna come back and buy Christian in the ass?
00:29:35
Speaker 3: I think it could, Like it could go either way.
00:29:38
Speaker 2: He might have like increased his chances or really like got rid of a person who would have rode for him to the end.
00:29:45
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:29:45
Speaker 5: Yeah, well he won't know now.
00:29:47
Speaker 1: But this poor tribe, like the vultures are picking the bones, like there's like no one left here last thing. Who do you think is gonna win this thing? And who do you think is the next person to go home?
00:30:04
Speaker 2: Ooh, that's such a good question. Well, I don't know again, I think it's wishful thinking. But she's also in a really good spot. I think Serie might win this thing, like she's doing so well, so I'm like, I feel like, how could she not at this point?
00:30:22
Speaker 3: But there's still so many people left.
00:30:24
Speaker 4: How couldn't anyone not want to get her out first? She won single handily won Traders first season. She's the biggest threat on the show.
00:30:34
Speaker 5: To me, she'd have to go.
00:30:36
Speaker 1: I agree, And she's not that great and challenge either though. You know, that's why.
00:30:41
Speaker 2: I think personally why she's not being targeted right now, because a big part of the game is those individual immunities, and they probably all feel like, oh, I can get her out later, Like we can always get her out later. She's not going to be immune when these when it becomes an individual game. So that's and that's and then also they're all like, we love her, we love She's such a big threat, but we love her. And that's like series missed. You know, she she she casts that like thing over you where she you know you should probably get her out, but then you don't want to.
00:31:11
Speaker 5: For some no, I would want to.
00:31:13
Speaker 4: I saw her on Traders like she just sat there at the end and she's like, yeah, sorry, yeah, she don't flinch. She plays the game with no emotion at all at all, but winning do not like, how could anyone underestimate her? And I'm not a gamer, but I know that much, right.
00:31:33
Speaker 3: I agree. I agree with you. I think that they're they're making a huge mistake, like not looking at her.
00:31:37
Speaker 5: Mike, no threat to me, those other people, no threat to me. She's the one, I agree.
00:31:44
Speaker 1: And who do you think is going to be the next one?
00:31:46
Speaker 4: Now?
00:31:49
Speaker 2: So, I mean, you guys saw that trailer they're talking about Charlie and Rizzo. Yeah, so I'm gonna say one of them or I'm just gonna go. I'm gonna go Christian because you put that in my mind. Now though, like he's been getting a lot of screen time, this might bite him the butt. Maybe Christian goes next week.
00:32:07
Speaker 5: I'd hate to see him go. He's so fun like he's he's a character.
00:32:10
Speaker 1: Good at TV.
00:32:11
Speaker 3: He is good TV. But there's gonna be two tribal councils. So two people are going home next week?
00:32:15
Speaker 1: Oh two?
00:32:16
Speaker 5: P okay? So with two people, we think.
00:32:18
Speaker 4: Christian possibly and and your buddy he's going.
00:32:28
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm sure some of it.
00:32:30
Speaker 4: I have the cutest co hosts, the best ever.
00:32:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sophie didn't like it when Rizzo did it, but DeLaura likes it. I soby thank you so much for coming on by order of the Faithful Survivor Edition. You've got a lot going on. Is there anything that you want to promote? Where can people find you? Where can people follow you? All that stuff?
00:32:52
Speaker 2: Nothing I want to promote, but there's something I want to say. So, first of all, Wells, you are a fan like favorite in my household.
00:33:00
Speaker 3: You have been for like the last.
00:33:01
Speaker 2: Decade, like me and my family, like my my friends, my sister, and my mom. The people we watched The Bachelor with were like, if Wells isn't on the on Paradise this summer, we're not watching it because if they're gonna take Chris Harrison away, they're not gonna.
00:33:12
Speaker 3: Take Wells away too.
00:33:13
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:33:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm a fan of you.
00:33:16
Speaker 2: And then Dolores, I have loved you for so long. I don't even know think you know this because you probably follow a lot of people on Instagram, but you actually follow me on Instagram because I sent you this.
00:33:27
Speaker 3: I was in my.
00:33:28
Speaker 2: Fields one day when I was like eighteen, and I sent you this like long message saying how much I loved you and how much am a mom figure.
00:33:36
Speaker 3: I see you because you're so amazing say that.
00:33:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we need more people like you on the Housewives, with level headed and not crazy and.
00:33:45
Speaker 3: Liken it and.
00:33:48
Speaker 2: Not a black heart but like a steady heart and someone who who just you're just real and I love you and I love you both.
00:33:55
Speaker 3: And you don't understand what meant amazing go on here.
00:33:58
Speaker 2: I'm sure you have people who like don't even know who you are. You don't know them, you don't know me. But I love you, guys, and I appreciate this opportunity. And yeah, I'm on TikTok and Instagram Sophie Blerdy you can follow me there.
00:34:09
Speaker 5: But yeah, we love Sophie.
00:34:11
Speaker 1: We love Sophie. And tell your family thank you for for uh.
00:34:15
Speaker 3: I will trust me.
00:34:18
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. And also I just want you to know that I have picked your Blue Devils to win this final. Let's go.
00:34:27
Speaker 2: I need somebody so have so hopefully we win together.
00:34:32
Speaker 1: So yes, well, thank you again, so much.
00:34:34
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you guys. Have a great day.
00:34:38
Speaker 5: I love you bye.
00:34:39
Speaker 1: She's the best, and now I gotta go follow her because apparently you already do, and now I feel bad about it.
00:34:45
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't really have a black heart. I'm just.
00:34:50
Speaker 1: No, you're not. You're the best everyone out there. Thank you so much for listening to by order of the Faithful Survivor Edition. We'll be back again next week with another interview from a past member of a Survivor's season, and we'll be recapping episode five where, well Sophie said it, two people will be going home, so it's going to be a good one. Dolores, have a lovely week.
00:35:11
Speaker 5: Thank you, Love you guys. Banks
