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Sixty million dollars, y'all. That's what outside money spent trying
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to stop one little guy in Michigan. A pack and
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its affiliates threw in more than thirty million of that,
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which is the biggest check that that organization has ever
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written for a single race. And Abdul l Sayed beat
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them by fourteen thousand, eight hundred ninety three votes thirty
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million dollars to finish fucking second. And I am thrilled
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with this. I am also doing the math, though, okay,
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and the math is that thirty million dollars bought a
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pack a coin flip that was the product of all
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of it. That is what thirty million dollars buys now.
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And my wife and I have a device in a
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nightstand that costs thirty nine dollars too, and it has
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never once underperformed like that. And then Wednesday happened. Within
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twenty four hours, Lifelong Democrats went on national television to
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announce that because their girl lost a primary by nine
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tenths of a point, they will now be voting Republican
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for the first time in their life, not staying home,
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but voting for Mike Rogers, who's a former FBI agent
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who moved to Florida to lobby for pharmaceutical companies. And
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by the way, he spent Wednesday morning workshopping how he
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could slowly be racist and say abdul Rahaman into a
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camera in front of other racist Republicans until he fell attested, right,
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eighteen months of these people lecturing me about party unity,
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eighteen months of well, what's the electability? Oh, I don't
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like his tone, or the fascists are at the door,
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the red hats, the MAGA. We can't let them take
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over the Senate and keep the House, and la la
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la la, and then they lose the one goddamn primary
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and immediately get on their knees for the guy at
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the door in the red hat. And I have to
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say something that my own side is not going to enjoy.
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So let's just go ahead and get that over with
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in the first three minutes here. I am a democratic Socialist,
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I have been one for twenty years, and I personally
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think that Abdula el Sayed is going to lose in November.
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I think Michigan is going to pay for it. I
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think all of us are going to pay for it.
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And I think that you guys are probably going to
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spend the next three months screaming at me and leaving
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bad reviews, because there is a difference between winning an
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argument and winning a state. In Tuesday Night, we won
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an argument by only nine tenths of a point in
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August in a primary against half of our own party,
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in the one place in America where that DSA argument
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works best. Nationally, DSA has back twenty nine House candidates
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this cycle. Eleven of them were already dead in the
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primaries with no chance whatsoever. The seven headed to Congress
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are all in seats where a literal bag of trash
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with a D on it wins by thirty to forty points.
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So that is tonight. Okay, we're going to talk about
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how money tried to buy an election and they blew
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it by less than a point. We all celebrated for
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a moment, but then someone has to be the person
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in the group Chap who kind of says out loud
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that the math eight math in congratulations, Joe. That person
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is me. Tonight, let's get into it, breaking Dad go
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now he Hello, everyone, welcome back to We Saw the Devil.
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I'm your host, Robin, and to everyone knew who's shown
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up in the last two weeks or so, and there
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are a lot of you welcome. I have no idea
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what happened. I'm assuming something got clipped. I'll go did
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the thing, and now you are here, So I'm not
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going to do a whole orientation for you. All you
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need to know is about me is that Hi. My
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name is Robin. I am a jaded polysygn major. I
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am a lifelong political obsessive and I've been in and
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out of this stuff and around it long enough to know,
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like I have a hate fuck relationship with all of it. Okay,
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it's awful. It's the worst game of chess, but I
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keep coming back and I absolutely love for it. I
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live for politics. I love the drama of it. So
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shameless self promotion over, let's go ahead and start talking
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about it. And again, let me recap what we're going
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to be talk talking about tonight. We're gonna talk about
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Michigan first, okay, like what happened, what that very low
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margin means, and what sixty million dollars actually bought. Then
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it's part kind of the part where I tell you
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why Abdul loses, Okay, and that's more or less going
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to involve me explaining that Michigan is not one state.
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It's like five raccoons in a trench coat. And you'll
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get the drift when we get there, and then I
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want to talk about the Democrats currently announced randomly announcing
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their conversion to the Republican Party. This is a big
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thing that I have seen lately and it is absolutely
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making my boohole clench. Okay, it is sickening, to say
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the least, but you know, and we're going to talk
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about that because it is a trend right now because
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of l Sayed's election. And then in tonight's reality check,
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I want to lay out what democratic socialism is asking for,
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which somehow is still it still remains a mystery to
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the people, to the very people who've been screaming against
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it for a decade, why I still want all of it,
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and why I am not willing to lose a Senate
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seat to prove my loyalty to it. Okay, so let's
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go ahead and get into it. And again we're starting
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off with the Michigan election election. So the Associated Press
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called it at nine fifty six Wednesday morning, ninety nine
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percent of the votes counted, lsied by one point. And
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again that number was fourteen thousand, eight hundred ninety three votes,
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and that's out of a million and a half. And
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when that announcement came, like I felt something that was
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not joy, okay, Like it was the biopsy coming back clean,
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if that makes sense. You know, it's kind of like
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a dread that you've been carrying in your stern home
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for a while. It just kind of leaves. But it
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wasn't actually joy, and it's we're going to get into that.
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That was. That was apparently like my celebration of this election.
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But I want to talk mainly about the money, because
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this is actually a pretty incredible feat. A pack in
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its affiliates spent more than thirty million dollars on this
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race alone, not across the cycle, not across the party,
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in this Democratic Senate primary. It is the largest single
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race investment that APAC has ever made, and it's kind
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of gross. They actually announced it like it was a
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huge flex. Okay, isn't that gross that organizations can announce
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we gave this candidate blah blah blah blah blah, all
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of these tens of millions of dollars. Like that's more
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of a confession than a flex, my friends. But I digress.
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Total outside spending propping up Hailey Stevens cleared sixty million
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dollars and for scale, okay, Stephens's own campaign spent about
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a million dollars on advertising. By mid July, l say
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Ed's had spent about three point two million. So the
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two human beings whose actual names were on the ballot
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spent about four million dollars between them in outside groups
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spent fifteen times that the candidates. What's so ridiculous to me,
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especially in this particular election, guys, is that sixty million
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dollars of other people's money and opinions got laundered through
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two people for four months. And if you're just a
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Michigan Democrat trying to figure out who to vote for,
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like almost every single piece of information about either candidate
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was paid for by someone who doesn't live there and
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is probably and probably never will visit. Okay. Isn't that
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just absolutely ridiculous? Okay, So it's you l sied outraised
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Stevens in the reporting period like he absolutely did. He
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raised roughly half of what he did in the window
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that ending on June thirtieth. And that's kind of h
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miliating in a very specific way for Hailey Stevens, because
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the entire pitch for Hailey Stevens was viability. She was
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the serious one, the experienced one, the grown up in
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the room, you know, the one who could just raise
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money and had all of the big Democrat establishment backers,
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and she got out raised by the guy that the
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establishment you know, was describing as a suicide mission. And
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that's what they called him. They called him a suicide Michigan.
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You know, you paid for the premium tier and got
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the free version with ads like that's basically that's basically
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what happened to all of the people who gave money
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to Hailey Stevens. And I want to be very very
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very specific about what sixty million dollars actually purchases, because
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they just ran ads kind of under sells the power
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behind that amount of money. It buys saturation, Okay. And
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I've worked in politics before, and basically that's just kind
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of like the polite way of saying, we're gonna make
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people really fucking sick of hearing your name. I mean,
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it's true, like every commercial break for the Detroit Tigers
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game for four months, the mailers that people get and
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just stack up on their kitchen counters, the pre roll
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before the video, the YouTube video that your great aunt
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sent you, the same ninety seconds of b roll with
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all of the you know, stringcore TETs until you hear
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a name that you haven't heard of, and then it's
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just kind of like it just you know, all of
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a sudden, this name is just drilled into your head.
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That is what they were buying, not trying to persuade you.
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They were trying to buy name association. That is one
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of the most important pieces of campaigning is making sure
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that you know the name gets out there association. And
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they got some of it because abdulh else I had
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won by nine tenths of a point instead of the
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fifteen that the last poll had him up and predicted
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against that, El Sayad's operation ran twelve thousand volunteers, one
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hundred and ten cities, more than five hundred events. And
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that kind of sounds like a press release, Okay, Like
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that is real epic groundwork. These are people who took
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time off from their jobs to knock on doors in
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July in Michigan. I've heard it's hot as fuck there
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ew right, Like, I don't even think I would love
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a candidate more like maybe AOC but like no, And
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if you've never done it, it is a special kind
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of hell when you go door to door. But when
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El Saed says, we took on a machine that is
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a good line that actually happens to be pretty honest.
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So let me absolutely give this win it's due because
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it is real. It happened. Their entire business model is inevitability. Right.
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The pitch to a donor is not, we will move
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your candidate four points north. The pinch is like the
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pitch of it is like, we're gonna fucking win. And
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on Tuesday they did, and Apak had you know, the
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Hailey Stevens like with maximum spend, with everyone watching, they failed,
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and that should actually terrify every person who wrote one
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of those checks. I very much hope it ruins a
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billionaire's August, to be honest, but I want to talk
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about the one thing that should scare them in Hailey
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Stevens and the establishment. Worse than losing is that they
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lost while being like the only ones talking for four months.
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The sixty million dollars had the airwaves completely to itself.
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Did y'all know that Elsi Ed's side could not match
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a tenth of the funding every single metric that money
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is supposed to buy Hailey Stevens's campaign, had she had
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the name recognition, the framing the again, the repetition of
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her name, the ability to define like it is proper
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for Canadas to get in as early as they can
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and get the name recognition and get all of that
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done because it's in, and get as much FaceTime as
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they can with people because it gives them the ability
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to define themselves as well as the opponent. So Hailey
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Stephens was able to you know, funded so well, she
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was able to get out there and define who El
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Sayed was before he even got the chance to. Now,
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my problem with the party that everyone is having is
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that he won by nine tenths of a point. Almost
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half the Democratic primary electorate in Michigan voted for Hailey Stevens. Guys,
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not donors, not the establishment voters. Roughly seven hundred and
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forty thousand, actual living human beings turned out at the
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highest rate for any Democratic election in the state's history.
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You know who looked at the menu and they ordered
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the moderate not the DSA guy. So when the take
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is that, well, this proves that money doesn't work, that
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organizing on the ground and grassroots beats the system. The
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machine is dead. Like I've seen people say that, I
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want to point out I want to hold your hands
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in mind while I say this. I want to say
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this with enormous love, Okay, that the establishment, the machine,
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whatever you want to call it, they got within fifteen
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thousand votes and does not appear to have been informed
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that anything really happened to it, you know what I mean.
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And I cannot tell you that the spending failed to
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move the race, okay, because I don't know that, and
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neither does a single person screaming about it tonight. But
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like it is a fair question. Did sixty million dollars
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of advertise? Is that why Stevens finished within a point
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instead of losing by eight? Like, yes, legitimate thing to ask,
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but I want to be clear that I'm not doing
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the thing where you can see the point just to
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sound reasonable and then take it back like I mean it.
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Like almost half of my party in Michigan looked at
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a physician who wants Medicare for all cheaper insulin and said, ew, no,
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thank you. I'm going to take a pack and then
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don't forget. When Hayley Stephens said, I dream it Israel
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comes to me, am, I dreams like she's Israel first
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over America. She's made that incredibly clear. And yet almost
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half of the Democratic Party in Michigan looked at her
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and was like, that's our candidate. Now you can tell
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yourselves that thirty million dollars is just thirty million dollars
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of brainwashing, and yes, some of it is, yes, But
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the polling, the polling is important here, okay. And this
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is what I love polls. I read all the polls
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and I love how wildly ridiculous and varied they are.
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But Emerson College had it fifty four to thirty nine,
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a fifteen point different el sayad ended up winning by
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one point, and then there was an earlier poll in
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July that had them directly tied that was fourteen points off. Okay,
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Like if I was fourteen points off on a delivery
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estimate at my job, I would be in the conference
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room with HR. But Emmerson College gets to like all pulsters,
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and I find it hilarious. They failed miserably, and then
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they're going to come back in six weeks and do
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it again. But the reason I care is not because
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they look stupid, all right, Like they are professionally stupid.
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That's that's their job. But it was in every group
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chat that I meant did you guys see it. It
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was like all the memes of Elsayat's gonna win, and
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then it showed that poll and him up by fifteen point,
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a fifteen point lead, and that kind of functions as
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a type of demobilization ad. Nobody had to buy that
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ad and he only won by nine tenths of a
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single point. So do that subtraction for me, and think
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about how many people stayed home because a simple number
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told them that this election has been handled, because that
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happens frequently unfortunately. And you know, the people who voted
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for Hailey Stevens, I first want to say, you're not
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a villain. They're not idiots. A lot of them are
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exactly who this coalition claims to organize for. You have
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the union households, the public sector workers, older black voters,
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you know, older black voters and black voters in general
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have been the most reliable democratic constituency in Michigan for
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over sixty years, and they've watched a handful of insurgent
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campaigns just roll through with like, you know, the most
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Narnia Utopia pitches right like they give them a little
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tote bag and a cookie and they have some perky
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little candidate come in and then they disappear and never
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come back again. Hailey Stevens ran on manufacturing and she
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has a hell of a record with the auto industry,
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which obviously in Michigan is not nothing, you know what
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I mean? Like that is the entire thing, and that
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landed with people who have actual reasons to care about it,
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and there are quite a few of them, as you
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can imagine. But again, I want to come back to
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the seven hundred and forty thousand. That's more people than
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live in Detroit. That is more than the whole damn
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population to Boston. And every single one of those people
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showed up on a Tuesday in August, which nobody does,
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and voted for the other person. Turnout in this primary
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was the highest for any Democratic contest in the history
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of Michigan. Both campaigns did that. Stevens turned people out,
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el sayed turned people out. And the takeaway from the
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donor class the elite was of the Democratic Party, wasn't that?
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Oh my god, our coalition, y'all, like the Democratic Party
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is alive. Hooray. They am not shitting you. Literally came
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out and said the wrong people showed up to the
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voting Booths. I'm not even kidding you. And this is
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the part that no one wants to hear, right, Like
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it's so much more fun to talk about. Fuck, yeah,
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we beat APAC, but we need to talk about like
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you know, the retired UAW guy and Warren Michigan who
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voted for Hayley Stevens because he had no idea who
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this Muslim doctor was and he's now going to vote Republican.
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Okay now, And here's here here, here's what I want
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to talk about there, and here's where I'm probably gonna
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lose half of you. But before you turn it off,
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please hear me out. I truly believe that Abdul Lsayed
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loses to Mike Rogers in November. I think it's gonna
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be close. I think it's gonna be brutal, and I
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think that when it's over, we will have handed Republicans
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a Senate seat in another state that Democrats cannot afford
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to lose. And then we're gonna spend four year years
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arguing about whose fault it was instead of about issues
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that actually fucking matter for the everyday people. And I
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hope I'm wrong. I will do a whole episode eating
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shit if I am wrong, I mean not literally, okay,
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but I'm not gonna eat shit, but I will make
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a whole episode talking about how wrong I was. Now
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here's why I believe this is actually going to be
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the case. Though the numbers going into this are not good, y'all.
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An average of three pre primary surveys had Rogers at
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forty six forty six point seven percent, and LSIED was
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at forty two point three. Individual polls range from a
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dead tie to a ten point Rogers lead. And these
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are pre primary, and obviously they're not gospel. Obviously they're
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gonna move. They are also not nothing though, you know,
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and every person telling you will we just had the primary.
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It doesn't matter. No, they probably have a subtect to sell. No,
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it does matter. It absolutely matters, especially with what we're seeing.
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You know. Reason one and a half, which is almost
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kind of the same problem, is that he starts the
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general with just two thirds of a party. Half of
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the Democratic primary electorate just voted against him, and a
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chunk of that half is currently workshopping their conversion to
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fucking Republican parties. So Rogers is coming into this race
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starting with his whole coalition okay, like he just he
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was unopposed in spirit, right, like his people are solely
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behind him. I've said this probably on every episode of
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We Saw the Devil in those political phase, Republicans are
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so fucking good and it doesn't matter, you know, if
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a person, if in terms of most Republicans, if a
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candidate is say a magical Republican, that is, if he
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on abortion, like doesn't really mind it, you know, is
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fine with it. You might think of anti abortion activists
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and how a lot of them will still vote for
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a pro choice candidate as long as they get this
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security or the other racist policies or education or you know,
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economic policies that they like. People are there. Yes, absolutely
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is a block of voters where they are one party,
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one issue voters. You've heard that phrase before, not always
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in the Republican Party. I find that the Democratic Party
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is so much worse than Republicans at it. But you know,
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these people are not soul searching guys. Not a single
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Republican in Michigan is currently on television explaining why they
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might vote for the Muslim doctor. It is absolutely the
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other way around, with Democrats saying why they are not
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voting for the Muslim doctor. Not we're gonna get to
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that in second. But secondly, Mike Rogers already won. He's
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almost already won this. In twenty twenty four, he lost
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to Alyssa Slotkin by three tenths of a point Slockin
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if you recall his former CIA she's a former analyst.
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She ran to the middle of the middle middle in
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a presidential year with the entire party behind her, and
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she beat him by fourteen thousand votes. That is the
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ceiling of democratic performance in Michigan under the most ideal conditions,
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with a candidate more or less created in a lab
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right like, I mean, she is just so lame duck
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in kind of quiet, like she offends no one, and
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she's still barely won. And don't forget that Trump carried
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the state that same that very same night. Okay, in
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reason number three is that midterm electorates are generally older, whider,
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and more suburban than presidential candidates. So the coalition that
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turns out for a primary in August is not the
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same coalition that turns out in November. And it's sure
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as hell isn't the one that turned out for Slockin again,
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forty five million dollars from the NR is already reserved.
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Thirty million dollars of opposition research was already produced, it
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was tested, it was a run. It was run against
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him by his own side, you know, by Hailey Stevens.
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Republicans don't even have to build anything. Really, a pac
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has already built it for them and pretty much like
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wrapped you know, wrapped it up, put a bow tie
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on it and just set it on their front porch.
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It's not going to be that difficult. An a pack
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having lost, put out a statement saying that their members
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remained determined to make sure voters reject him. And this
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is part of the reason why I love politics so much,
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is because it's a game. Okay, I mean think about
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this for a second. Abdullah al Sayah's own party spent
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four months and over thirty million dollars building a case
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against him, right like the OPO research, all of that,
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and that case against him now belongs to Mike Rogers.
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We would have seen it in main Tien, right with
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Graham Plattner going up against Susan Collins. The Democratic establishment
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fucking hated Graham Plattner. And I've made how I feel
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about that that entire situation is suspect as hell. That
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being said, though, had Graham Plattner somehow made it to
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the general election and Troy Jackson hadn't stepped in, oh
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my god, Susan Collins and her team would have had
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a fucking field day because the Democrats did it to themselves.
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They literally gave her the playbook. And I find politics
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so interesting that two people at the same party will
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literally go just like at each other's throats and say
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the most heinous shit, and then the second that it's over,
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the losers like, you have my vote, I respect you.
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You're an incredible candidate. I'm like, bro, you just spent
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the last four or five six months shitting all over
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them and calling them every name in the book. But okay,
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so again, Abdul el own party has spent months building
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all of this shit against him, and now Mike Rogers
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has free off research, every sound bite, every clip, every
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focus group like and the testing that they do on
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Democratic voters and polls that has now been refined, and
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all of this shit and how to go up against
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El Sayed is now sitting in a Republican war room
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with a little bow on top. They didn't have to
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do a single ounce of heavy lifting or write a
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single word. Democrats did all of it for them, and
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now Republicans are just copying off of them. And then
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we're gonna come in October and be shocked like we
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didn't just watch all that happen. But guys, Michigan is
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not one state. Everybody outside the Midwest, here's Michigan in
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pictures like either Detroit or a lake. You know, sometimes both,
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sometimes one or the other. Michigan is basically like five
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different countries. You have Metro Detroit, which is Wayne County,
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which is Dearborn, which has the Large which is the
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most organized Arab American community in the entire country, right
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like American policy toward Gaza is not just abstract because
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people have relatives and news travels. Then you have Makeham County,
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which is thirty minutes north and is the literal birthplace
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of the term Reagan Democrat. And that's not a metaphor either,
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Like that is where the pollster coined it in Makeham
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in nineteen eighty, describing exactly the voter that I am
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worried about right now, union household vote a Democratic Party
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his whole life and will abs a fucking lutely vote
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for a Republican. If he thinks that, you know, the
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other option thinks that he's stupid, then West Michigan, Grand Rapids,
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Kent Ottawa Counties, the Dutch Reformed Belt, which is one
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of the most conservative religious regions in the Northern United States.
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Grand Rapids has trended blue. The counties around it have not.
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And by the way, Betsy de Vos is from there.
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If that tells you anything than northern Lower Michigan and
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the entire Upper Peninsula rural working class, deeply Republican Oakland County,
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which is, you know, kind of the affluent suburbs, which
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is where the actual election gets decided. That's full of
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people who voted for Biden and slockin. That's one state
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you have to win a coalition that includes both Dearborn
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and makeum Well, I guess like also Oakland simultaneously. And
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the pitch that gets you nine tenths of a point
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in a Democratic primary in Dearborn is a very different
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pitch than the one that keeps a what blue collar
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pipefitter and make em from voting rogers just out of
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sheer anger and resentment in those places do not just
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vote differently. They do not know each other. You know,
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a guy in Marquette has more in common with somebody
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in northern Wisconsin than with an body in Ferndale. Like
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someone in Holland, Michigan has never once probably had a
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single conversation with someone across it. You know, Like this
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is a state where the auto industry was and where
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the auto industry left. It has a black majority city
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that state government neglected for forty fucking years and then
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took over financially. It has a water crisis in Flint.
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The state government caused it and they've never fully fixed
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it or paid for it. It had a militia problem
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serious enough that men were federally prosecuted over a plot
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to kidnap the sitting governor. That's the electorateive Michigan. That's
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who's going to decide this, and somehow Abdul el Sayed
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is going to need to build a coalition that holds
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all of these places at the exact same time on
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his message that is far left for a lot of
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voters in three weeks. Right in this this isn't a
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criticism of Elsa, it's politics because I share his politics.
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I think he is a beautiful human being. I think
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he is a breath of fresh air. It is a
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it is a math problem, guys, and that don't forget
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like there's one more piece of this that I feel
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I see. I feel like a lot of pundits are
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just completely skipping over. And that's what Rogers gets to
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run on. Don't forget that Rogers is a former FBI agent.
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That is his whole brand. Twenty years of national security,
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you know, television, the counter terrorism guy. He's a serious
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man in a suit. He was a chairman of the
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the House Intelligence Committee. That is his entire persona. Okay,
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and it is going to sit directly opposite of a
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candidate that Hailey Stevens and the rest of the Democratic Party.
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You know, we've already spent thirty million dollars trying to
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frame him as some radical batshits socialist. That is not
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a fair fight. And it's not gonna be okay, Like
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it's it's literally law and order versus the socialist. All right,
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Let's be completely honest. And this is a mid term
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in a state that Trump won with forty five million
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dollars of on air ad spend. Michigan is a whole
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bunch of countries and regions in one state, and when
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you look at examples like New York City, obviously, Mom,
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Donnie is doing a hell of a job there so far, right,
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I still want to see how a lot of these
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initiatives are actually truly going to be paid for in
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the long run. However, Comma, he's doing great work. But
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then there's Maine, okay, and that should have been the
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proof of concept and instead it is absolutely a cautionary
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tale here. Remember I did multiple episodes on this because
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I was so deeply upset by it. Because for those
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of you who are tuning in for the first time,
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I lived in Maine for fifteen years. I love Maine.
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My wife and I are currently shopping for a home
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somewhere in New England. I have learned that living close
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to New York City is amazing, so looking at you know,
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Southern mass Connecticut, Vermont, and Maine. Fuck New Hampshire. If
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you live in New Hampshire, I love you so much,
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but I can't do it. It's a little too It's
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like a pocket of red. But Graham Platner, all right,
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he was the Oyster Farmer, Marine Army, National Guard three deployments.
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He ran an absolutely insurgent populist campaign against Susan Collins.
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He got Bernie's endorsement, which he was so far ahead
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of Governor Janet Mills that Mills suspended her own campaign
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in April. Okay, it was a national story. How why
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did I just say it like that? National? Apparently I'm
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turning into Haley Stevens. Guys national story. You know everyone
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that I know, you know, my friend's in Maine, but
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just friends all over the country. Everyone, my friend Iris
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who was on the last episode, like we were all
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posting and talking about him. And then he withdrew on
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July eighth, one month later because his former partner accused
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him of rape. He denies it. He said that stepping
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aside was not an a mission in an admission of guilt.
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He also said that the campaign was no longer viable,
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so it was obviously losing the ability to fundraise because
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the amount of shit that came out about him before that.
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There was the footage of the tattoo, which I mean,
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let's be honest, it resembled an SS insignia, like you
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know one in that group, and he says he covered
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it up after the campaign told him what it looked like,
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but he claims that that was not why he got it.
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And I'm not going to make jokes about the allegation
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because that's not really a bit. I was devastated by
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his candidacy crumbling. But the main Democratic Party had to
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convene a meeting just to nominate, you know, they well,
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they convened a nominating convention is what they're called. And
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they did that in July to replace it. Now, don't
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forget Kamala Harris carried Maine. I love Maine. Maine is
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southern Maine and up to central super progressive. The city
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of Bangor typically votes Democratic. Everywhere else read okay, but
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Susan Collins. People are finally getting fed up with Susan Collins.
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She's probably the single most vulnerable Republican in the entire country,
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and we were about to fucking take it home. So,
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you know, just an insurgent campaign that's built entirely on
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one particular guy. One candidates his level of authenticity where
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there's no vetting infrastructure, you know, no nothing like that.
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Like when it breaks, it breaks all the way down
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to the fucking studs. Okay, So the party that you've
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spent a whole year calling irrelevant. Is the only thing
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standing there with a mechanism to pick up the pieces.
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So no, Maine is not Michigan. California is obviously not
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either one of them either. But the fact that a
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socialist can win a primary in Denver, which one did
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the on Tuesday, it tells you exactly as much about
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Kent County as a good review of you know, I
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guess like what Portland, Oregon would be about Bernie Sanders,
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Like it is a it is a no shit Sherlock moment.
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It's a no shit Sherlock County that these would vote
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that way, all right. I guess that's my ultimate point here,
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is that the Democratic socialist wins that we saw on
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Tuesday were all in districts that were no shit Sherlock. Okay,
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But I want to talk about Democrats and what they're
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you know, the ones that are currently doing press about
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their personal journey, because oh god, this is my favorite
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genre of American political theater. Okay, and it is only August.
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We I'm tired so many clips. You know, someone's uncle's
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dentist's maid's brother at an airport telling a reporter. Well,
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I voted democratic for forty years, but this time, because
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of Israel, I'm voting for Mike Rogers. And I watched
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in this election. I watched the right wing just. I mean,
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they spent two days inflating one guy just into a
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mass exodust, right, like one guy in an airport is
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one guy in a fucking airport, all right, Like he's
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not this whole ass movement. He is a man with
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a bag on wheels, and he's pissed off. But the
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thing about it, guys, is that after that video came out,
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hundreds of others did too. Okay, it's a whole ass
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genre now, and I have some notes about this, Okay.
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You motherfuckers spent two years telling all of us this
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is the most dangerous Republican party in American history. This
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is you know, maga is fascist. Democracy itself is on
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the ballot. It's hanging in the balance. You know. You've
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said it to me every which way to Sunday vote Blue,
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no matter who you said it in an emerit out
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of Facebook post, like you've sent fundraising emails you shared
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with your friends at the Brad's barbecue, and your response
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to losing a primary by nine tenths of a point
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is to go vote for the fascists that your bitch
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asses have been screaming about. So one of those two
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things was a goddamn why. Either the Republican Party is
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an existential threat, which you know, in which case you
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do not get to hand them a Senate seat over
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over that, or it was just never actually an existential
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threat and you've been performing panic. Okay, pick one, pick
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a side, say it out loud. I will wait because
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we have eighty nine days, and I want to be
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very precise, okay about the shape of this, because we're
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not just seeing policy disagreements. They are throwing tantrums, little
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baby tantrums. Okay, you did not lose an argument about Israel.
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You lost a primary, You imbeciles. Those are completely different events.
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Like in one of them, you get to actually keep
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making your case gay, Okay, Like you appear to have
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decided that the correct response is to just burn the
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whole damn building down, which, and I say this with
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real feeling and real emotion behind it, the exact thing
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you spent a decade telling me the other side does,
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because here is what Mike Rogers does when he gets there. Okay,
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he's going to vote to confirm every judge that guts
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abortion access. He's going to vote for whatever this shit
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show of an evil administration sends him to do, whether
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it's immigration, trans kids, the courts agencies. He is a
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former pharma, big pharma lobbyist, y'all. He he even did
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the twenty the claim back in twenty twenty four that
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the election was stolen when he lost. Okay, that's going
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to tell you exactly what he's going to do in
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a certification fight. And you don't have to guess about that,
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like he already showed you in free in public. So
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when you say that you are voting Rogers over one issue,
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be honest. Okay, be honest with me. You're not casting
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a protest vote. You are fully full throat at supporting
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the Republican Party. And what you're doing is you are
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throwing away every woman in Michigan who will need a
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procedure that she is about to lose access to thanks
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to you, she didn't get to vote in your personal journey.
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I love how they're acting like their shaman's going to
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Taos or something, or New Mexico or taw or whatever,
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like you know, all these people are calling it, well,
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my personal journey through the Democrat Party. No, and spare
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me the bit about my principles. I have heard forty
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five fucking versions of I'm voting my conscience this week alone. God,
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it's like Kamala PTSD all over again. I'm voting my
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conscience and I can't vote for Kamala Okay, I just like,
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for the fucking life of me, I just don't understand
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why Blue. We can't get it together. You know, vote
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blue no matter who came out of that, because we
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realized the job at hand, but what was at stake
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and we are still seeing this shit again. It's just
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that's that's the hotel here. No one who stands to
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lose something is doing this. It's always some white bastard
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with great insurance, a near or fully paid off house.
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He's got a passport, travels internationally and he just you know,
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pops on the news or on his podcast or whatever,
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and he's like, you know, my values just it just
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simply wouldn't let me allow me to vote for El Abdullah,
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say ed, I just can't like cool cool bro, cool bro.
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And then there's the other group, you know, the ones
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who will not actually say it and look, some meaningful
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percentage of the people currently discovering that they have very
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strong feelings about foreign policy, which is hilarious, Like they've
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never had a single opinion about foreign policy in their
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entire lives, and suddenly they find themselves experts. Okay, they
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are just not going to vote for a Muslim, and
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we need to be just explicitly open about that, all right,
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Like that's it, that's the whole thing. It is not complicated,
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it has never been. There is a segment of the
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American electorate that will find a reason, any reason. Okay,
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they will craft a beautifully articulated reason with all of
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these sources, and they will not vote for a Muslim.
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I grew up in the South. I have been in
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these conversations my whole life. No one ever leads and
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comes out and says it. Okay, it comes out at
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the end and after the third, fourth, or fifth strength
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they've had, and it's you know, they they phrase it
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as I have a concern over culture, over the assimilation,
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you know, of different cultures. He's just he's not an American.
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And then all of their friends are on the table
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they nod like he's just made some super noble, respectable point. Okay,
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that's what happens. They found some sort of respectable sounding
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on its face reason, and they're gonna write it all
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the way until November. And then, however, if you call
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them out for being racist for it, oh my god,
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Hell will just open up and swallow you whole. Okay,
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They're gonna be extremely offended by that. And the Republicans
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figured this out inside of four hours. And that's exactly
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why the NRSC put out ads using his full legal name,
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Abdul Raham Mohammad al sayed. They didn't discover that name random.
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They literally workshopped it somewhere, you know, probably in a
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Virginia or random Michigan office park. There is a share
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Google doc where people are taking turns saying the name
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out loud or you know, typing different variations of it
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to see how they can make it sound. The scariest
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and what I love most about it is that Abdullah
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actually clocked it immediately, and he actually went right towards it,
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and it was brilliant to see this kind of move.
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I mean, he he used the same thing that Mom
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Donnie used on Cuomo and he flat out said, if
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you cannot say the name. It's abdul Raman. I mean,
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correct response, bro. But they are running that play with
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forty five million dollars behind it, Okay, and that's gonna
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work on some people. Let's just be honest because it
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has always worked on some people. I mean, this is America, right,
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Like pretending otherwise is not optimism. You are lying to yourself.
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And okay, I'm gonna be brutal to my own side
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here in about fifty ten minutes. But this defection is
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simply not one directional, okay. Like, there is a chunk
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of the left that spent this week announcing that they
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will never vote for any Democrat who fails to meet
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their standard. And it's so wild to me because we
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are in a cycle that decides the Senate the most
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important thing. We need to stop this fucking insanity, and
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these people aren't doing the exact same thing. I mean,
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it's absolutely disgusting. Now, the Republican Jewish Coalition, which is
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a Republican organization whose entiger purpose is moving Jewish votes
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to Republicans because they're overwhelmingly typically Democrat, they immediately called
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l SAIED a direct threat to Michigan's Jewish community, and
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they told Jewish Democrats to back Rogers instead. Jewish Insider
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reported Jewish Democrats in Michigan were disappointed and stopped short
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of endorsing him. JTA reported that before the primary, some
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prominent Jewish fundrais are already treating Rogers as their option. Again.
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Jewish fundraisers are now switching from Dems to Rogers as
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a Republican and that response has been anything but collective
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or unified guys, which is the part that is being
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left out of almost everything that I'm reading about this,
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and that's what worries me the most. There were Jewish
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organizers on Elsaiad's own campaign. There are Jewish people in DSA,
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a fuck ton of them. American Jews are one of
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the most reliably progressive constituencies in this entire country and
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have been for more than a century, and they are
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having a very loud, very painful, very public argument with
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each other right now, and anyone describing this as like,
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you know, I see a lot of people just reducing
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the Jewish vote to like one block and people are
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lazy when they do that. But that's all I'm gonna
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say about this particular piece, because we have now reached
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my favorite segment, which is reality check, Reality Check, break
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it down, drill down. Okay, And before I get into
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my own cards here, all right, one more piece of
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housekeeping about the national picture here, because the celebration this
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week has been quite selective. Again DSA back twenty nine
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house candidates the cycle. Eleven of them were already beaten
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in the primaries themselves, not even close like completely thrashed.
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Eleven more are still pending, and seven advanced to a
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general election. And among those seven you have people like
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aoc in New York, racheated to leeb in Detroit, Okay,
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Clair Valdes in New York, Melock Kiros and Denver, Donovan
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McKinney in Detroit, and Chris Robb is unopposed, Like, let
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me repeat that, Chris rob like one of our our
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marquee general election candidates is running against no one. So
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a more honest headline here isn't socialist sweep America like
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we're seeing everywhere you go. If we want to be
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honest about it, it's that we went eleven for twenty
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eleven for twenty nine, and the seven who made it
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through are in four cities. Again where a bag of
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hair with a D drawn on it wins by forty points. Okay,
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every movement starts somewhere in Cities are where you start, obviously, right,
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especially on the Democratic side, you start with major cities.
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But this is not a mandate. And I feel like
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too many people now are thinking that the couple wins
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that we've had is giving the DSA just a complete mandate.
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And I have watched people this week describe a Denver
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primary like it's like a referendum on Kent County or something.
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So let me just put my cards on the table,
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because I've been talking about this for an hour, telling
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you that my own side is about to lose a
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Senate seat and probably give Trump unchecked powers. Again. I'm
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a Democratic Socialist. Hand me the survey. I check every
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single fucking box. And since a lot of you are
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new here and have only ever heard the word used
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as a slur by some white man and a windbreaker,
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I sat down and wrote about the issues that are
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most important to me, and so here they are. Okay.
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I want healthcare to be fully decommodified. No premiums, no networks,
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no prior authorization. You know, don't get that letter in
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the mail explaining that your treatment was denied. Right now,
811
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when insurance executive somewhere receives a bonus calculated on how
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many people he denied, that is the actual fucking job
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that is. That is his performance review. How many people
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did you let die? Today? He goes home and someone
815
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literally asks how. A member of his family asked how
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his day was, and he's like great, and it was
817
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great because some woman in Toledo didn't get to get
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her breast exam scan. Like this is not just like
819
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a bug. That's the whole fucking feature of it, Okay,
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And before someone emails me, yes, yes, there is a
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version of this that exists, and guess what. It works
822
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in a dozen countries with way worse weather, and they
823
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have way better medical outcomes than we do. And no,
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by the way, none of them are communists or fascists.
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They don't have goologs. And if your entire counter argument
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is a country that stopped existing in nineteen ninety one,
827
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that's your entire counter argument to this, then you're just ignorant. Okay. Secondly,
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housing is infrastructure. It is not an asset class. We
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built an entire economy on the premise that shelter must
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get more expensive forever. And that was a choice, right,
831
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a choice made by people, most of whom are still alive,
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and not one of whom is probably sorry about it.
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Three workers own more of what they make. I don't
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believe that to slogan, I'm saying board seats, sectoral bargaining,
835
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actual ownership stakes, Like, if you are producing the value
836
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:10.280
that you if you are producing the value you should
837
00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:12.440
be holding some of that. You should be owning some
838
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of that. Four. I believe that public goods should stay
839
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public water, power, transit, male schools. Letting anyone monetize water
840
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is that should be a fucking crime. I mean I
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anyone who would vote for that, they should have to
842
00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:33.119
explain it to their grandchildren, you know. And I truly
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don't believe that there's anything just absolutely insane about any
844
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of those four points. Okay, like every single one of
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them existed in some form in this country at some point,
846
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and then it got dismantled by the people who were
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profiting from the actual act and system of the dismantling,
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all right, and then lastly, my number five here, the
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word democratic here is not just decoration in the term
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00:51:58.159 --> 00:52:03.159
democratic socialism. It means that you do this through elections,
851
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through ballots and majorities and you know, getting together your
852
00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:14.159
coalition again elections. Okay, it's not someone deciding on your behalf.
853
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If you cannot win the argument with your neighbors, you
854
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do not get to have control or be part of
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the political system or the right like the elected system.
856
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That's it. That is the terrifying agenda of democratic socialists,
857
00:52:29.039 --> 00:52:35.960
right doctors, apartments, housing, water and clean resources and holy shit,
858
00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:39.480
lock up your children in every argument against all of it,
859
00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:42.119
like when you squeeze it hard enough and people just
860
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really come out against it, it comes out with or
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00:52:45.719 --> 00:52:49.800
as you know, but then some people would have less. Yes,
862
00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:54.719
that is correct. Yes, I believe in this country more
863
00:52:54.760 --> 00:52:57.480
than I believe in any party, including the one that
864
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I am registered with, and including the one that I
865
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:03.599
pays dues to. Okay, the Democratic Party is a vehicle.
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That is all it's ever been. It is quite literally
867
00:53:06.800 --> 00:53:08.920
the shitty beat up minivan. In the back, it has
868
00:53:08.960 --> 00:53:12.280
a bad transmission, check engine lights on. Someone probably put
869
00:53:12.320 --> 00:53:16.840
tape over a headlight like or tail light. I'm not
870
00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:19.199
in love with it. I need to get somewhere and
871
00:53:19.239 --> 00:53:24.480
it's the only vehicle in the driveway. Unfortunately, truly unfortunate. Okay,
872
00:53:25.480 --> 00:53:32.760
But I just that's the country, okay. Like I love
873
00:53:32.800 --> 00:53:36.960
this country, I truly do. It's unglamorous, right, and it's
874
00:53:37.320 --> 00:53:39.480
in the way that you love something that you also hate,
875
00:53:39.880 --> 00:53:42.760
you know. But it's kind of like the version where
876
00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:46.000
the mail shows up, where the bridge holds, where somebody
877
00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:48.719
you will never meet ran a water treatment plant. So
878
00:53:49.079 --> 00:53:52.960
like your kid didn't get sick. Like that is our country, right,
879
00:53:53.039 --> 00:53:55.559
Like that's what all of us are voting for and
880
00:53:55.599 --> 00:53:58.000
working for. I don't have kids. I hate kids, but
881
00:53:58.159 --> 00:54:00.559
like I want you and your children to live in
882
00:54:00.599 --> 00:54:04.960
a safe, clean world, and a party is just the
883
00:54:05.079 --> 00:54:08.719
tool that you use to keep that system running so
884
00:54:08.760 --> 00:54:12.800
that your world, your country, will evolve and have policies
885
00:54:12.840 --> 00:54:15.679
and whatnot that you more so want to live in
886
00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:18.440
and live under. But here's the thing, guys, is that
887
00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:22.159
when the math does not math, I'm gonna say so,
888
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and right now to me, the math does not math.
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I know everyone is very excited, but nationally again, the
890
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DSA back twenty nine house candidates the cycle. Eleven were
891
00:54:33.639 --> 00:54:37.079
already defeated in the primaries, eleven more are still pending.
892
00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:41.199
Only seven advanced to the generals, and those seven are
893
00:54:41.360 --> 00:54:47.760
surprised New York, Philadelphia, Denver, and Detroit. And that's where
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00:54:47.760 --> 00:54:52.159
the Democratic primary is. The entire election. We are undefeated
895
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in rooms in areas where there's no other option. We
896
00:54:58.320 --> 00:55:02.400
have not yet won a single competitive statewide general race
897
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anywhere in this country. And what's so incredulous to me
898
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is that with so much at stake, there is a
899
00:55:09.960 --> 00:55:13.960
massive amount of Democratic voters that are currently arguing on
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whether they're about to leave the Democratic Party entirely. There
901
00:55:17.400 --> 00:55:20.239
is a resolution floating around to build a new Socialist
902
00:55:20.280 --> 00:55:24.480
Party with the Working Families Party, also the Green Party
903
00:55:24.920 --> 00:55:28.039
and the Communist Party USA, and they're aiming at state
904
00:55:28.079 --> 00:55:32.400
and local races by twenty twenty eight. Isn't that absolutely wild? Again?
905
00:55:32.760 --> 00:55:36.480
Those parties, the Working Families, the Greens, and the Communist Party. Okay,
906
00:55:37.320 --> 00:55:40.639
Like in a country where roughly zero percent of the
907
00:55:40.679 --> 00:55:44.599
electorate has ever voted for two of those three parties,
908
00:55:45.079 --> 00:55:47.559
in a cycle where a Senate seat in Michigan is
909
00:55:47.639 --> 00:55:53.360
quite literally on a knife edge, some share some population
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00:55:53.480 --> 00:55:56.920
of my own party is trying to think about starting
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00:55:56.960 --> 00:55:59.440
a new party for twenty twenty eight. I sort of
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got I'm a Democrat, okay, registered Democrat. I will always
913
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vote Democrat, period, full fucking stop. But I swear to god,
914
00:56:06.519 --> 00:56:09.960
we have some of the most pathetic, crying bitch babies
915
00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:12.280
in this party that I have ever seen. It is
916
00:56:12.360 --> 00:56:16.960
quite quite literally the skiing and I'm going home. That's
917
00:56:17.079 --> 00:56:19.199
literally all of this. I can't tell you, guys how
918
00:56:19.239 --> 00:56:21.400
many friends I lost because how many of my friends
919
00:56:21.480 --> 00:56:25.119
during the last election just decided that Kamla was a
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00:56:25.239 --> 00:56:28.280
war criminal or a cop an a cab. I swear
921
00:56:28.320 --> 00:56:32.280
to god, it's so hard for me not to throw hands.
922
00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:34.519
You can't see me, but I am fucking shadow boxing
923
00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:37.639
when I see or hear a Democrat or see it online,
924
00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:42.039
go a cab, A cab, A cab like okay, And
925
00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:44.199
this is what I feel is wrong with the Democratic
926
00:56:44.199 --> 00:56:46.000
Party as a whole and a lot of progressive and
927
00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:47.760
the progressive movement, is that they come out with all
928
00:56:47.760 --> 00:56:50.880
these little catchphrases that aren't cute, by the way, because
929
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what sane person wants to abolish the police, at least
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00:56:54.239 --> 00:56:57.760
in our current world, right Like, I understand where they're
931
00:56:57.800 --> 00:57:01.679
coming from, and I understand. Don't get started, don't start
932
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sending emails or leaving comments. I understand the purpose of that. However,
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Comma right, it is harmful some slogans, even if you
934
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understand the underlying meaning, just they sound bad. Okay, So guys,
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this is just a mess. And this is what I
936
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mean too when I say the math is not gonna math.
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00:57:23.360 --> 00:57:27.960
You need fifty one senators, not fifty one correct senators
938
00:57:27.960 --> 00:57:30.519
that one hundred percent align with you. You just need
939
00:57:30.559 --> 00:57:34.760
fifty one senators of having that letter by the name. Okay.
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The Senate does not care about how you feel about
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00:57:39.519 --> 00:57:41.480
the theory of change, all right, Like it only cares
942
00:57:41.519 --> 00:57:45.559
about who organizes the chamber, who chairs the judiciary, and
943
00:57:46.679 --> 00:57:49.239
who has the power to get fucking shit passed. A
944
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mediocre democrat from a state that you have never visited,
945
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but who votes with you sixty percent of the time
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is doing the one thing that the most out standing,
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flawless democratic socialist who lost by three points is not doing,
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and that is existing inside of the government building helping
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govern Okay, this is just math. This is just math, okay.
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And I want to be honest, Like there is a
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version of this show where I actually thought really long
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and hard about published publicly stating my actual beliefs, and
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that was actually what drove me up a wall when
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I did the True Crime moderation of We Saw the Devils,
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because I felt constrained and I felt boxed in, and
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I knew a lot of my listeners were right wing,
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and many Mormons, I guess because of the Lori Valo case.
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But I never really actually fully shared my personal or
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political beliefs there. I think I was only vaguely out
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at some point too. But I'm gonna be completely honest
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with you guys. I'm going to spend the next eighty
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nine days doing everything I can for abdul Elsi ed okay,
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because he is the nominee. He won it fair, and
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the alternative here is a big farm, a lobbyist who
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thinks that the last election was stolen. And because I
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would rather do everything in my power to get someone
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I mean, God, we align on almost one hundred percent
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of our beliefs like that elected, and I would like
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to do everything in my power. Okay, But I am
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not gonna sit here and pretend and light to y'all
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that I like the odds of this election. Again, I'll
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say it for the fiftieth time. The mathe and math
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in here. It just truly is not. There is a
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big difference of beating Hailey Stevens in a primary than
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beating the entirety of Michigan when he goes up against Rogers.
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Those are not good odds. And everyone currently telling you
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that the opposite is going to be extremely quiet with
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you on November fourth. Okay, but we can beat the money.
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It happened on Tuesday. I'm largely considering main and a
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lost cause now because did you guys hear it's like
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Maine is cursed. I don't know what is going on
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in Maine, but first you had the grand Platner, the tattoo,
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the rape accusation, and then Troy Jackson, who took over
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the mantle, came out that he's fucking in a relationship
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with his second cousin for like over twenty years. So okay, cool,
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So I guess we probably lost Maine. And so now
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if we want, we need, we have to take Michigan. Guys,
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even if you're not from Michigan, even if you're in
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Nebraska or Arizona or Washington State, we need to do
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all that we can, even if it's donating a couple
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bucks here and there sharing news articles about him. If
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you have family who live in Michigan, for the love
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of God, please educate them because we cannot have a
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loss here, full stopping period. And so much is writing
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against ELSI ed and I hope I'm wrong. I really
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hope I'm wrong. I hope that the world ends up
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with rainbow Unicorn shitting rainbows and El Saya or Abdul
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el Sayed just absolutely tears apart Peters. But guys, I'm
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just not feeling that that is gonna happen. I feel
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and this is something that I've noticed, just explicitly, honestly,
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for whatever I mean. Obviously I know it happens on
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the Republican side as well, but I feel like it's
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so interesting because my circle is far far, far left right,
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like it's very far left. But I feel that a
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lot of these people aren't aware that we're not the majority,
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you know what I mean, Like moderates are the majority
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in this country. The far left or the progressive left
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or whatever you want to call it, is not the
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majority in this country. So it's interesting, especially on social
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media when you can you know, whether it's threads or
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Instagram or blue Sky for whoever is on that Twitter
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TikTok whatever. You can mold your own algorithm to show
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you your own echo chamber. That's how the system is
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built to keep you coming back, to keep them making money.
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You know. So, I don't know. That's it for today, though, guys,
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thank you so much for listening. I love y'all so much.
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That is the show again. If you enjoyed listening and
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you want to reach out or support, Patreon is under
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we saw the Devil again. The Nolan of the second
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Nolan Wells episode is coming tomorrow as well. Starting next week,
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the patrons get the B sides, which is basically an
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extended cut where it's going to be like a fifteen
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maybe thirty minute thing individual episodes where I just basically
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say the things that my own better judgment probably removed
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from the removed me saying. The first time Twitter is
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that we saw the Devil TikTok, as we saw the
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double politics. Instagram is that we saw the Devil podcast.
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And then I'm also at Robin Underscore WSTD. If you
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want my personal one again, it's like ninety percent dogs
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Lotel and my wife Facebook as we saw the Devil
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and then everything else is wesawdedevil dot com again. There's
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two to three episodes a week, depending on the news cycle.
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And guys, I'm closing out with it again too. Michigan
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votes in eighty nine days. Nothing about that is going
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to be easier between now and then. So if you
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can check chip in in any way, whether it's boots
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on the ground, sharing resources, donating money. You can also
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assist in phone banking and stuff like that from away too.
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In text banking, you don't have to live in Michigan
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to assist. And again, last thing, guys, if I am
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wrong about all of this, I will say so on
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the microphone and you can screenshot it. You know. Shit,
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I will send out free t shirts of me eating
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my own words or something like on a T shirt
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to people who call me out on this. But in
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any case, I love y'all, thank you for listening, and
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I will talk to you again this weekend.
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Sixty million dollars, y'all. That's what outside money spent trying
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to stop one little guy in Michigan. A pack and
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its affiliates threw in more than thirty million of that,
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which is the biggest check that that organization has ever
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written for a single race. And Abdul l Sayed beat
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them by fourteen thousand, eight hundred ninety three votes thirty
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million dollars to finish fucking second. And I am thrilled
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with this. I am also doing the math, though, okay,
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and the math is that thirty million dollars bought a
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pack a coin flip that was the product of all
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of it. That is what thirty million dollars buys now.
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And my wife and I have a device in a
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nightstand that costs thirty nine dollars too, and it has
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never once underperformed like that. And then Wednesday happened. Within
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twenty four hours, Lifelong Democrats went on national television to
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announce that because their girl lost a primary by nine
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tenths of a point, they will now be voting Republican
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for the first time in their life, not staying home,
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but voting for Mike Rogers, who's a former FBI agent
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who moved to Florida to lobby for pharmaceutical companies. And
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by the way, he spent Wednesday morning workshopping how he
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could slowly be racist and say abdul Rahaman into a
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camera in front of other racist Republicans until he fell attested, right,
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eighteen months of these people lecturing me about party unity,
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eighteen months of well, what's the electability? Oh, I don't
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like his tone, or the fascists are at the door,
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the red hats, the MAGA. We can't let them take
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over the Senate and keep the House, and la la
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la la, and then they lose the one goddamn primary
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and immediately get on their knees for the guy at
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the door in the red hat. And I have to
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say something that my own side is not going to enjoy.
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So let's just go ahead and get that over with
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in the first three minutes here. I am a democratic Socialist,
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I have been one for twenty years, and I personally
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think that Abdula el Sayed is going to lose in November.
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I think Michigan is going to pay for it. I
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think all of us are going to pay for it.
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And I think that you guys are probably going to
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spend the next three months screaming at me and leaving
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bad reviews, because there is a difference between winning an
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argument and winning a state. In Tuesday Night, we won
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an argument by only nine tenths of a point in
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August in a primary against half of our own party,
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in the one place in America where that DSA argument
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works best. Nationally, DSA has back twenty nine House candidates
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this cycle. Eleven of them were already dead in the
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primaries with no chance whatsoever. The seven headed to Congress
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are all in seats where a literal bag of trash
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with a D on it wins by thirty to forty points.
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So that is tonight. Okay, we're going to talk about
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how money tried to buy an election and they blew
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it by less than a point. We all celebrated for
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a moment, but then someone has to be the person
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in the group Chap who kind of says out loud
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that the math eight math in congratulations, Joe. That person
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is me. Tonight, let's get into it, breaking Dad go
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now he Hello, everyone, welcome back to We Saw the Devil.
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I'm your host, Robin, and to everyone knew who's shown
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up in the last two weeks or so, and there
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are a lot of you welcome. I have no idea
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what happened. I'm assuming something got clipped. I'll go did
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the thing, and now you are here, So I'm not
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going to do a whole orientation for you. All you
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need to know is about me is that Hi. My
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name is Robin. I am a jaded polysygn major. I
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am a lifelong political obsessive and I've been in and
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out of this stuff and around it long enough to know,
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like I have a hate fuck relationship with all of it. Okay,
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it's awful. It's the worst game of chess, but I
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keep coming back and I absolutely love for it. I
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live for politics. I love the drama of it. So
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that being said, housekeeping really quick Patreon. For those of
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you on Patreon, I started on the Nolan Wells case.
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For those of you unaware, this used to be a
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fully true crime podcast. I will continue to do cases
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that I deem important and so right now is Nolan Wells.
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So Patreon, please expect an update episode this weekend as
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well on the Nolan Wells Case. I'm also going to
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start starting next week adding a little something else for patrons.
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of like a short fifteen minute or so follow up.
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I'm going to call them b sides. Think of it
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as the extended cut, you know, like on Bill Maher's show,
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how he has all of his guests and then afterwards
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he smokes weed and talks to one of the guests
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for like an extra hour. Think of it kind of
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like that, So fifteen to thirty minute episodes where I
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just basically go on a tangent and I can be
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considerably more un hinged than I'm allowed to be for
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the main feed, Which I understand that's kind of a
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bold claim. But what you're about to hear it will
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make It will make sense. This is Patreon is under
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We saw the Devil. You can find everything. We saw
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all of this again, is that we saw the deevil
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dot com. Typically I put out at least two episodes
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a week, occasionally three, if it's a really busy news
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cycle considering. I mean, there's a lot to talk about
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right now, but if you have been leaving reviews, thank you.
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It does more for this show than anything I could
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say into this microphone, anything I can plead from you.
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If you are liking the show and would love to
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support it but can't cut it right now, I totally
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get it. Times are tough. Please just take ten seconds
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That would mean the world to me, and it actually
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helps the algorithm in insane ways. Okay, So that being said,
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shameless self promotion over, let's go ahead and start talking
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about it. And again, let me recap what we're going
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to be talk talking about tonight. We're gonna talk about
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Michigan first, okay, like what happened, what that very low
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margin means, and what sixty million dollars actually bought. Then
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it's part kind of the part where I tell you
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why Abdul loses, Okay, and that's more or less going
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to involve me explaining that Michigan is not one state.
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It's like five raccoons in a trench coat. And you'll
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get the drift when we get there, and then I
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want to talk about the Democrats currently announced randomly announcing
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their conversion to the Republican Party. This is a big
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thing that I have seen lately and it is absolutely
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making my boohole clench. Okay, it is sickening, to say
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the least, but you know, and we're going to talk
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about that because it is a trend right now because
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of l Sayed's election. And then in tonight's reality check,
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I want to lay out what democratic socialism is asking for,
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which somehow is still it still remains a mystery to
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the people, to the very people who've been screaming against
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it for a decade, why I still want all of it,
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and why I am not willing to lose a Senate
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seat to prove my loyalty to it. Okay, so let's
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go ahead and get into it. And again we're starting
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off with the Michigan election election. So the Associated Press
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called it at nine fifty six Wednesday morning, ninety nine
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percent of the votes counted, lsied by one point. And
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again that number was fourteen thousand, eight hundred ninety three votes,
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and that's out of a million and a half. And
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when that announcement came, like I felt something that was
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not joy, okay, Like it was the biopsy coming back clean,
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if that makes sense. You know, it's kind of like
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a dread that you've been carrying in your stern home
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for a while. It just kind of leaves. But it
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wasn't actually joy, and it's we're going to get into that.
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That was. That was apparently like my celebration of this election.
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But I want to talk mainly about the money, because
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this is actually a pretty incredible feat. A pack in
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its affiliates spent more than thirty million dollars on this
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race alone, not across the cycle, not across the party,
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in this Democratic Senate primary. It is the largest single
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race investment that APAC has ever made, and it's kind
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of gross. They actually announced it like it was a
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huge flex. Okay, isn't that gross that organizations can announce
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we gave this candidate blah blah blah blah blah, all
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of these tens of millions of dollars. Like that's more
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of a confession than a flex, my friends. But I digress.
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Total outside spending propping up Hailey Stevens cleared sixty million
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dollars and for scale, okay, Stephens's own campaign spent about
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a million dollars on advertising. By mid July, l say
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Ed's had spent about three point two million. So the
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two human beings whose actual names were on the ballot
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spent about four million dollars between them in outside groups
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spent fifteen times that the candidates. What's so ridiculous to me,
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especially in this particular election, guys, is that sixty million
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dollars of other people's money and opinions got laundered through
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two people for four months. And if you're just a
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Michigan Democrat trying to figure out who to vote for,
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like almost every single piece of information about either candidate
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was paid for by someone who doesn't live there and
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is probably and probably never will visit. Okay. Isn't that
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just absolutely ridiculous? Okay, So it's you l sied outraised
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Stevens in the reporting period like he absolutely did. He
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raised roughly half of what he did in the window
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that ending on June thirtieth. And that's kind of h
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miliating in a very specific way for Hailey Stevens, because
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the entire pitch for Hailey Stevens was viability. She was
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the serious one, the experienced one, the grown up in
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the room, you know, the one who could just raise
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money and had all of the big Democrat establishment backers,
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and she got out raised by the guy that the
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establishment you know, was describing as a suicide mission. And
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that's what they called him. They called him a suicide Michigan.
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You know, you paid for the premium tier and got
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the free version with ads like that's basically that's basically
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what happened to all of the people who gave money
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to Hailey Stevens. And I want to be very very
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very specific about what sixty million dollars actually purchases, because
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they just ran ads kind of under sells the power
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behind that amount of money. It buys saturation, Okay. And
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I've worked in politics before, and basically that's just kind
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of like the polite way of saying, we're gonna make
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people really fucking sick of hearing your name. I mean,
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it's true, like every commercial break for the Detroit Tigers
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game for four months, the mailers that people get and
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just stack up on their kitchen counters, the pre roll
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before the video, the YouTube video that your great aunt
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sent you, the same ninety seconds of b roll with
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all of the you know, stringcore TETs until you hear
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a name that you haven't heard of, and then it's
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just kind of like it just you know, all of
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a sudden, this name is just drilled into your head.
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That is what they were buying, not trying to persuade you.
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They were trying to buy name association. That is one
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of the most important pieces of campaigning is making sure
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that you know the name gets out there association. And
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they got some of it because abdulh else I had
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won by nine tenths of a point instead of the
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fifteen that the last poll had him up and predicted
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against that, El Sayad's operation ran twelve thousand volunteers, one
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hundred and ten cities, more than five hundred events. And
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that kind of sounds like a press release, Okay, Like
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that is real epic groundwork. These are people who took
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time off from their jobs to knock on doors in
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July in Michigan. I've heard it's hot as fuck there
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ew right, Like, I don't even think I would love
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a candidate more like maybe AOC but like no, And
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if you've never done it, it is a special kind
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of hell when you go door to door. But when
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El Saed says, we took on a machine that is
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a good line that actually happens to be pretty honest.
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So let me absolutely give this win it's due because
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it is real. It happened. Their entire business model is inevitability. Right.
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The pitch to a donor is not, we will move
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your candidate four points north. The pinch is like the
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pitch of it is like, we're gonna fucking win. And
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on Tuesday they did, and Apak had you know, the
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Hailey Stevens like with maximum spend, with everyone watching, they failed,
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and that should actually terrify every person who wrote one
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of those checks. I very much hope it ruins a
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billionaire's August, to be honest, but I want to talk
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about the one thing that should scare them in Hailey
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Stevens and the establishment. Worse than losing is that they
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lost while being like the only ones talking for four months.
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The sixty million dollars had the airwaves completely to itself.
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Did y'all know that Elsi Ed's side could not match
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a tenth of the funding every single metric that money
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is supposed to buy Hailey Stevens's campaign, had she had
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the name recognition, the framing the again, the repetition of
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her name, the ability to define like it is proper
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for Canadas to get in as early as they can
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and get the name recognition and get all of that
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done because it's in, and get as much FaceTime as
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they can with people because it gives them the ability
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to define themselves as well as the opponent. So Hailey
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Stephens was able to you know, funded so well, she
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was able to get out there and define who El
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Sayed was before he even got the chance to. Now,
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my problem with the party that everyone is having is
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that he won by nine tenths of a point. Almost
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half the Democratic primary electorate in Michigan voted for Hailey Stevens. Guys,
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not donors, not the establishment voters. Roughly seven hundred and
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forty thousand, actual living human beings turned out at the
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highest rate for any Democratic election in the state's history.
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You know who looked at the menu and they ordered
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the moderate not the DSA guy. So when the take
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is that, well, this proves that money doesn't work, that
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organizing on the ground and grassroots beats the system. The
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machine is dead. Like I've seen people say that, I
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want to point out I want to hold your hands
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in mind while I say this. I want to say
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this with enormous love, Okay, that the establishment, the machine,
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whatever you want to call it, they got within fifteen
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thousand votes and does not appear to have been informed
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that anything really happened to it, you know what I mean.
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And I cannot tell you that the spending failed to
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move the race, okay, because I don't know that, and
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neither does a single person screaming about it tonight. But
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like it is a fair question. Did sixty million dollars
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of advertise? Is that why Stevens finished within a point
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instead of losing by eight? Like, yes, legitimate thing to ask,
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but I want to be clear that I'm not doing
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the thing where you can see the point just to
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sound reasonable and then take it back like I mean it.
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Like almost half of my party in Michigan looked at
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a physician who wants Medicare for all cheaper insulin and said, ew, no,
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thank you. I'm going to take a pack and then
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don't forget. When Hayley Stephens said, I dream it Israel
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comes to me, am, I dreams like she's Israel first
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over America. She's made that incredibly clear. And yet almost
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half of the Democratic Party in Michigan looked at her
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and was like, that's our candidate. Now you can tell
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yourselves that thirty million dollars is just thirty million dollars
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of brainwashing, and yes, some of it is, yes, But
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the polling, the polling is important here, okay. And this
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is what I love polls. I read all the polls
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and I love how wildly ridiculous and varied they are.
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But Emerson College had it fifty four to thirty nine,
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a fifteen point different el sayad ended up winning by
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one point, and then there was an earlier poll in
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July that had them directly tied that was fourteen points off. Okay,
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Like if I was fourteen points off on a delivery
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estimate at my job, I would be in the conference
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room with HR. But Emmerson College gets to like all pulsters,
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and I find it hilarious. They failed miserably, and then
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they're going to come back in six weeks and do
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it again. But the reason I care is not because
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they look stupid, all right, Like they are professionally stupid.
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That's that's their job. But it was in every group
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chat that I meant did you guys see it. It
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was like all the memes of Elsayat's gonna win, and
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then it showed that poll and him up by fifteen point,
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a fifteen point lead, and that kind of functions as
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a type of demobilization ad. Nobody had to buy that
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ad and he only won by nine tenths of a
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single point. So do that subtraction for me, and think
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about how many people stayed home because a simple number
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told them that this election has been handled, because that
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happens frequently unfortunately. And you know, the people who voted
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for Hailey Stevens, I first want to say, you're not
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a villain. They're not idiots. A lot of them are
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exactly who this coalition claims to organize for. You have
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the union households, the public sector workers, older black voters,
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you know, older black voters and black voters in general
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have been the most reliable democratic constituency in Michigan for
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over sixty years, and they've watched a handful of insurgent
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campaigns just roll through with like, you know, the most
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Narnia Utopia pitches right like they give them a little
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tote bag and a cookie and they have some perky
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little candidate come in and then they disappear and never
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come back again. Hailey Stevens ran on manufacturing and she
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has a hell of a record with the auto industry,
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which obviously in Michigan is not nothing, you know what
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I mean? Like that is the entire thing, and that
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landed with people who have actual reasons to care about it,
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and there are quite a few of them, as you
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can imagine. But again, I want to come back to
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the seven hundred and forty thousand. That's more people than
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live in Detroit. That is more than the whole damn
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population to Boston. And every single one of those people
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showed up on a Tuesday in August, which nobody does,
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and voted for the other person. Turnout in this primary
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was the highest for any Democratic contest in the history
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of Michigan. Both campaigns did that. Stevens turned people out,
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el sayed turned people out. And the takeaway from the
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donor class the elite was of the Democratic Party, wasn't that?
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Oh my god, our coalition, y'all, like the Democratic Party
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is alive. Hooray. They am not shitting you. Literally came
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out and said the wrong people showed up to the
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voting Booths. I'm not even kidding you. And this is
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the part that no one wants to hear, right, Like
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it's so much more fun to talk about. Fuck, yeah,
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we beat APAC, but we need to talk about like
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you know, the retired UAW guy and Warren Michigan who
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voted for Hayley Stevens because he had no idea who
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this Muslim doctor was and he's now going to vote Republican.
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Okay now, And here's here here, here's what I want
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to talk about there, and here's where I'm probably gonna
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lose half of you. But before you turn it off,
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please hear me out. I truly believe that Abdul Lsayed
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loses to Mike Rogers in November. I think it's gonna
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be close. I think it's gonna be brutal, and I
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think that when it's over, we will have handed Republicans
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a Senate seat in another state that Democrats cannot afford
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to lose. And then we're gonna spend four year years
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arguing about whose fault it was instead of about issues
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that actually fucking matter for the everyday people. And I
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hope I'm wrong. I will do a whole episode eating
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shit if I am wrong, I mean not literally, okay,
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but I'm not gonna eat shit, but I will make
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a whole episode talking about how wrong I was. Now
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here's why I believe this is actually going to be
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the case. Though the numbers going into this are not good, y'all.
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An average of three pre primary surveys had Rogers at
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forty six forty six point seven percent, and LSIED was
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at forty two point three. Individual polls range from a
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dead tie to a ten point Rogers lead. And these
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are pre primary, and obviously they're not gospel. Obviously they're
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gonna move. They are also not nothing though, you know,
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and every person telling you will we just had the primary.
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It doesn't matter. No, they probably have a subtect to sell. No,
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it does matter. It absolutely matters, especially with what we're seeing.
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You know. Reason one and a half, which is almost
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kind of the same problem, is that he starts the
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general with just two thirds of a party. Half of
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the Democratic primary electorate just voted against him, and a
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chunk of that half is currently workshopping their conversion to
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fucking Republican parties. So Rogers is coming into this race
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starting with his whole coalition okay, like he just he
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was unopposed in spirit, right, like his people are solely
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behind him. I've said this probably on every episode of
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We Saw the Devil in those political phase, Republicans are
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so fucking good and it doesn't matter, you know, if
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a person, if in terms of most Republicans, if a
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candidate is say a magical Republican, that is, if he
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on abortion, like doesn't really mind it, you know, is
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fine with it. You might think of anti abortion activists
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and how a lot of them will still vote for
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a pro choice candidate as long as they get this
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security or the other racist policies or education or you know,
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economic policies that they like. People are there. Yes, absolutely
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is a block of voters where they are one party,
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one issue voters. You've heard that phrase before, not always
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in the Republican Party. I find that the Democratic Party
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is so much worse than Republicans at it. But you know,
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these people are not soul searching guys. Not a single
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Republican in Michigan is currently on television explaining why they
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might vote for the Muslim doctor. It is absolutely the
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other way around, with Democrats saying why they are not
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voting for the Muslim doctor. Not we're gonna get to
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that in second. But secondly, Mike Rogers already won. He's
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almost already won this. In twenty twenty four, he lost
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to Alyssa Slotkin by three tenths of a point Slockin
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if you recall his former CIA she's a former analyst.
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She ran to the middle of the middle middle in
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a presidential year with the entire party behind her, and
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she beat him by fourteen thousand votes. That is the
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ceiling of democratic performance in Michigan under the most ideal conditions,
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with a candidate more or less created in a lab
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right like, I mean, she is just so lame duck
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in kind of quiet, like she offends no one, and
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she's still barely won. And don't forget that Trump carried
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the state that same that very same night. Okay, in
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reason number three is that midterm electorates are generally older, whider,
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and more suburban than presidential candidates. So the coalition that
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turns out for a primary in August is not the
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same coalition that turns out in November. And it's sure
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as hell isn't the one that turned out for Slockin again,
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forty five million dollars from the NR is already reserved.
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Thirty million dollars of opposition research was already produced, it
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was tested, it was a run. It was run against
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him by his own side, you know, by Hailey Stevens.
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Republicans don't even have to build anything. Really, a pac
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has already built it for them and pretty much like
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wrapped you know, wrapped it up, put a bow tie
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on it and just set it on their front porch.
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It's not going to be that difficult. An a pack
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having lost, put out a statement saying that their members
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remained determined to make sure voters reject him. And this
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is part of the reason why I love politics so much,
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is because it's a game. Okay, I mean think about
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this for a second. Abdullah al Sayah's own party spent
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four months and over thirty million dollars building a case
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against him, right like the OPO research, all of that,
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and that case against him now belongs to Mike Rogers.
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We would have seen it in main Tien, right with
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Graham Plattner going up against Susan Collins. The Democratic establishment
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fucking hated Graham Plattner. And I've made how I feel
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about that that entire situation is suspect as hell. That
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being said, though, had Graham Plattner somehow made it to
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the general election and Troy Jackson hadn't stepped in, oh
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my god, Susan Collins and her team would have had
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a fucking field day because the Democrats did it to themselves.
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They literally gave her the playbook. And I find politics
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so interesting that two people at the same party will
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literally go just like at each other's throats and say
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the most heinous shit, and then the second that it's over,
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the losers like, you have my vote, I respect you.
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You're an incredible candidate. I'm like, bro, you just spent
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the last four or five six months shitting all over
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them and calling them every name in the book. But okay,
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so again, Abdul el own party has spent months building
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all of this shit against him, and now Mike Rogers
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has free off research, every sound bite, every clip, every
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focus group like and the testing that they do on
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Democratic voters and polls that has now been refined, and
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all of this shit and how to go up against
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El Sayed is now sitting in a Republican war room
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with a little bow on top. They didn't have to
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do a single ounce of heavy lifting or write a
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single word. Democrats did all of it for them, and
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now Republicans are just copying off of them. And then
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we're gonna come in October and be shocked like we
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didn't just watch all that happen. But guys, Michigan is
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not one state. Everybody outside the Midwest, here's Michigan in
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pictures like either Detroit or a lake. You know, sometimes both,
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sometimes one or the other. Michigan is basically like five
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different countries. You have Metro Detroit, which is Wayne County,
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which is Dearborn, which has the Large which is the
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most organized Arab American community in the entire country, right
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like American policy toward Gaza is not just abstract because
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people have relatives and news travels. Then you have Makeham County,
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which is thirty minutes north and is the literal birthplace
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of the term Reagan Democrat. And that's not a metaphor either,
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Like that is where the pollster coined it in Makeham
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in nineteen eighty, describing exactly the voter that I am
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worried about right now, union household vote a Democratic Party
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his whole life and will abs a fucking lutely vote
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for a Republican. If he thinks that, you know, the
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other option thinks that he's stupid, then West Michigan, Grand Rapids,
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Kent Ottawa Counties, the Dutch Reformed Belt, which is one
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of the most conservative religious regions in the Northern United States.
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Grand Rapids has trended blue. The counties around it have not.
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And by the way, Betsy de Vos is from there.
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If that tells you anything than northern Lower Michigan and
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the entire Upper Peninsula rural working class, deeply Republican Oakland County,
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which is, you know, kind of the affluent suburbs, which
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is where the actual election gets decided. That's full of
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people who voted for Biden and slockin. That's one state
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you have to win a coalition that includes both Dearborn
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and makeum Well, I guess like also Oakland simultaneously. And
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the pitch that gets you nine tenths of a point
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in a Democratic primary in Dearborn is a very different
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pitch than the one that keeps a what blue collar
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pipefitter and make em from voting rogers just out of
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sheer anger and resentment in those places do not just
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vote differently. They do not know each other. You know,
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a guy in Marquette has more in common with somebody
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in northern Wisconsin than with an body in Ferndale. Like
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someone in Holland, Michigan has never once probably had a
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single conversation with someone across it. You know, Like this
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is a state where the auto industry was and where
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the auto industry left. It has a black majority city
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that state government neglected for forty fucking years and then
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took over financially. It has a water crisis in Flint.
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The state government caused it and they've never fully fixed
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it or paid for it. It had a militia problem
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serious enough that men were federally prosecuted over a plot
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to kidnap the sitting governor. That's the electorateive Michigan. That's
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who's going to decide this, and somehow Abdul el Sayed
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is going to need to build a coalition that holds
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all of these places at the exact same time on
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his message that is far left for a lot of
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voters in three weeks. Right in this this isn't a
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criticism of Elsa, it's politics because I share his politics.
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I think he is a beautiful human being. I think
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he is a breath of fresh air. It is a
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it is a math problem, guys, and that don't forget
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like there's one more piece of this that I feel
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I see. I feel like a lot of pundits are
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just completely skipping over. And that's what Rogers gets to
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run on. Don't forget that Rogers is a former FBI agent.
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That is his whole brand. Twenty years of national security,
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you know, television, the counter terrorism guy. He's a serious
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man in a suit. He was a chairman of the
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the House Intelligence Committee. That is his entire persona. Okay,
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and it is going to sit directly opposite of a
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candidate that Hailey Stevens and the rest of the Democratic Party.
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You know, we've already spent thirty million dollars trying to
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frame him as some radical batshits socialist. That is not
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a fair fight. And it's not gonna be okay, Like
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it's it's literally law and order versus the socialist. All right,
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Let's be completely honest. And this is a mid term
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in a state that Trump won with forty five million
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dollars of on air ad spend. Michigan is a whole
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bunch of countries and regions in one state, and when
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you look at examples like New York City, obviously, Mom,
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Donnie is doing a hell of a job there so far, right,
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I still want to see how a lot of these
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initiatives are actually truly going to be paid for in
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the long run. However, Comma, he's doing great work. But
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then there's Maine, okay, and that should have been the
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proof of concept and instead it is absolutely a cautionary
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tale here. Remember I did multiple episodes on this because
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I was so deeply upset by it. Because for those
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of you who are tuning in for the first time,
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I lived in Maine for fifteen years. I love Maine.
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My wife and I are currently shopping for a home
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somewhere in New England. I have learned that living close
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to New York City is amazing, so looking at you know,
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Southern mass Connecticut, Vermont, and Maine. Fuck New Hampshire. If
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you live in New Hampshire, I love you so much,
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but I can't do it. It's a little too It's
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like a pocket of red. But Graham Platner, all right,
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he was the Oyster Farmer, Marine Army, National Guard three deployments.
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He ran an absolutely insurgent populist campaign against Susan Collins.
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He got Bernie's endorsement, which he was so far ahead
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of Governor Janet Mills that Mills suspended her own campaign
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in April. Okay, it was a national story. How why
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did I just say it like that? National? Apparently I'm
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turning into Haley Stevens. Guys national story. You know everyone
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that I know, you know, my friend's in Maine, but
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just friends all over the country. Everyone, my friend Iris
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who was on the last episode, like we were all
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posting and talking about him. And then he withdrew on
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July eighth, one month later because his former partner accused
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him of rape. He denies it. He said that stepping
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aside was not an a mission in an admission of guilt.
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He also said that the campaign was no longer viable,
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so it was obviously losing the ability to fundraise because
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the amount of shit that came out about him before that.
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There was the footage of the tattoo, which I mean,
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let's be honest, it resembled an SS insignia, like you
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know one in that group, and he says he covered
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it up after the campaign told him what it looked like,
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but he claims that that was not why he got it.
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And I'm not going to make jokes about the allegation
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because that's not really a bit. I was devastated by
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his candidacy crumbling. But the main Democratic Party had to
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convene a meeting just to nominate, you know, they well,
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they convened a nominating convention is what they're called. And
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they did that in July to replace it. Now, don't
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forget Kamala Harris carried Maine. I love Maine. Maine is
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southern Maine and up to central super progressive. The city
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of Bangor typically votes Democratic. Everywhere else read okay, but
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Susan Collins. People are finally getting fed up with Susan Collins.
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She's probably the single most vulnerable Republican in the entire country,
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and we were about to fucking take it home. So,
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you know, just an insurgent campaign that's built entirely on
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one particular guy. One candidates his level of authenticity where
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there's no vetting infrastructure, you know, no nothing like that.
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Like when it breaks, it breaks all the way down
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to the fucking studs. Okay, So the party that you've
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spent a whole year calling irrelevant. Is the only thing
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standing there with a mechanism to pick up the pieces.
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So no, Maine is not Michigan. California is obviously not
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either one of them either. But the fact that a
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socialist can win a primary in Denver, which one did
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the on Tuesday, it tells you exactly as much about
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Kent County as a good review of you know, I
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guess like what Portland, Oregon would be about Bernie Sanders,
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Like it is a it is a no shit Sherlock moment.
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It's a no shit Sherlock County that these would vote
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that way, all right. I guess that's my ultimate point here,
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is that the Democratic socialist wins that we saw on
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Tuesday were all in districts that were no shit Sherlock. Okay,
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But I want to talk about Democrats and what they're
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you know, the ones that are currently doing press about
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their personal journey, because oh god, this is my favorite
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genre of American political theater. Okay, and it is only August.
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We I'm tired so many clips. You know, someone's uncle's
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dentist's maid's brother at an airport telling a reporter. Well,
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I voted democratic for forty years, but this time, because
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of Israel, I'm voting for Mike Rogers. And I watched
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in this election. I watched the right wing just. I mean,
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they spent two days inflating one guy just into a
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mass exodust, right, like one guy in an airport is
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one guy in a fucking airport, all right, Like he's
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not this whole ass movement. He is a man with
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a bag on wheels, and he's pissed off. But the
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thing about it, guys, is that after that video came out,
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hundreds of others did too. Okay, it's a whole ass
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genre now, and I have some notes about this, Okay.
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You motherfuckers spent two years telling all of us this
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is the most dangerous Republican party in American history. This
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is you know, maga is fascist. Democracy itself is on
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the ballot. It's hanging in the balance. You know. You've
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said it to me every which way to Sunday vote Blue,
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no matter who you said it in an emerit out
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of Facebook post, like you've sent fundraising emails you shared
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with your friends at the Brad's barbecue, and your response
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to losing a primary by nine tenths of a point
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is to go vote for the fascists that your bitch
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asses have been screaming about. So one of those two
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things was a goddamn why. Either the Republican Party is
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an existential threat, which you know, in which case you
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do not get to hand them a Senate seat over
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over that, or it was just never actually an existential
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threat and you've been performing panic. Okay, pick one, pick
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a side, say it out loud. I will wait because
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we have eighty nine days, and I want to be
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very precise, okay about the shape of this, because we're
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not just seeing policy disagreements. They are throwing tantrums, little
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baby tantrums. Okay, you did not lose an argument about Israel.
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You lost a primary, You imbeciles. Those are completely different events.
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Like in one of them, you get to actually keep
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making your case gay, Okay, Like you appear to have
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decided that the correct response is to just burn the
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whole damn building down, which, and I say this with
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real feeling and real emotion behind it, the exact thing
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you spent a decade telling me the other side does,
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because here is what Mike Rogers does when he gets there. Okay,
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he's going to vote to confirm every judge that guts
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abortion access. He's going to vote for whatever this shit
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show of an evil administration sends him to do, whether
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it's immigration, trans kids, the courts agencies. He is a
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former pharma, big pharma lobbyist, y'all. He he even did
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the twenty the claim back in twenty twenty four that
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the election was stolen when he lost. Okay, that's going
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to tell you exactly what he's going to do in
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a certification fight. And you don't have to guess about that,
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like he already showed you in free in public. So
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when you say that you are voting Rogers over one issue,
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be honest. Okay, be honest with me. You're not casting
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a protest vote. You are fully full throat at supporting
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the Republican Party. And what you're doing is you are
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throwing away every woman in Michigan who will need a
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procedure that she is about to lose access to thanks
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to you, she didn't get to vote in your personal journey.
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I love how they're acting like their shaman's going to
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Taos or something, or New Mexico or taw or whatever,
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like you know, all these people are calling it, well,
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my personal journey through the Democrat Party. No, and spare
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me the bit about my principles. I have heard forty
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five fucking versions of I'm voting my conscience this week alone. God,
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it's like Kamala PTSD all over again. I'm voting my
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conscience and I can't vote for Kamala Okay, I just like,
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for the fucking life of me, I just don't understand
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why Blue. We can't get it together. You know, vote
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blue no matter who came out of that, because we
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realized the job at hand, but what was at stake
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and we are still seeing this shit again. It's just
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that's that's the hotel here. No one who stands to
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lose something is doing this. It's always some white bastard
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with great insurance, a near or fully paid off house.
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He's got a passport, travels internationally and he just you know,
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pops on the news or on his podcast or whatever,
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and he's like, you know, my values just it just
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simply wouldn't let me allow me to vote for El Abdullah,
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say ed, I just can't like cool cool bro, cool bro.
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And then there's the other group, you know, the ones
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who will not actually say it and look, some meaningful
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percentage of the people currently discovering that they have very
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strong feelings about foreign policy, which is hilarious, Like they've
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never had a single opinion about foreign policy in their
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entire lives, and suddenly they find themselves experts. Okay, they
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are just not going to vote for a Muslim, and
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we need to be just explicitly open about that, all right,
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Like that's it, that's the whole thing. It is not complicated,
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it has never been. There is a segment of the
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American electorate that will find a reason, any reason. Okay,
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they will craft a beautifully articulated reason with all of
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these sources, and they will not vote for a Muslim.
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I grew up in the South. I have been in
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these conversations my whole life. No one ever leads and
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comes out and says it. Okay, it comes out at
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the end and after the third, fourth, or fifth strength
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they've had, and it's you know, they they phrase it
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as I have a concern over culture, over the assimilation,
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you know, of different cultures. He's just he's not an American.
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And then all of their friends are on the table
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they nod like he's just made some super noble, respectable point. Okay,
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that's what happens. They found some sort of respectable sounding
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on its face reason, and they're gonna write it all
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the way until November. And then, however, if you call
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them out for being racist for it, oh my god,
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Hell will just open up and swallow you whole. Okay,
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They're gonna be extremely offended by that. And the Republicans
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figured this out inside of four hours. And that's exactly
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why the NRSC put out ads using his full legal name,
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Abdul Raham Mohammad al sayed. They didn't discover that name random.
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They literally workshopped it somewhere, you know, probably in a
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Virginia or random Michigan office park. There is a share
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Google doc where people are taking turns saying the name
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out loud or you know, typing different variations of it
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to see how they can make it sound. The scariest
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and what I love most about it is that Abdullah
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actually clocked it immediately, and he actually went right towards it,
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and it was brilliant to see this kind of move.
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I mean, he he used the same thing that Mom
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Donnie used on Cuomo and he flat out said, if
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you cannot say the name. It's abdul Raman. I mean,
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correct response, bro. But they are running that play with
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forty five million dollars behind it, Okay, and that's gonna
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work on some people. Let's just be honest because it
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has always worked on some people. I mean, this is America, right,
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Like pretending otherwise is not optimism. You are lying to yourself.
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And okay, I'm gonna be brutal to my own side
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here in about fifty ten minutes. But this defection is
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simply not one directional, okay. Like, there is a chunk
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of the left that spent this week announcing that they
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will never vote for any Democrat who fails to meet
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their standard. And it's so wild to me because we
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are in a cycle that decides the Senate the most
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important thing. We need to stop this fucking insanity, and
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these people aren't doing the exact same thing. I mean,
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it's absolutely disgusting. Now, the Republican Jewish Coalition, which is
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a Republican organization whose entiger purpose is moving Jewish votes
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to Republicans because they're overwhelmingly typically Democrat, they immediately called
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l SAIED a direct threat to Michigan's Jewish community, and
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they told Jewish Democrats to back Rogers instead. Jewish Insider
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reported Jewish Democrats in Michigan were disappointed and stopped short
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of endorsing him. JTA reported that before the primary, some
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prominent Jewish fundrais are already treating Rogers as their option. Again.
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Jewish fundraisers are now switching from Dems to Rogers as
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a Republican and that response has been anything but collective
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or unified guys, which is the part that is being
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left out of almost everything that I'm reading about this,
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and that's what worries me the most. There were Jewish
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organizers on Elsaiad's own campaign. There are Jewish people in DSA,
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a fuck ton of them. American Jews are one of
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the most reliably progressive constituencies in this entire country and
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have been for more than a century, and they are
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having a very loud, very painful, very public argument with
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each other right now, and anyone describing this as like,
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you know, I see a lot of people just reducing
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the Jewish vote to like one block and people are
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lazy when they do that. But that's all I'm gonna
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say about this particular piece, because we have now reached
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my favorite segment, which is reality check, Reality Check, break
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it down, drill down. Okay, And before I get into
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my own cards here, all right, one more piece of
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housekeeping about the national picture here, because the celebration this
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week has been quite selective. Again DSA back twenty nine
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house candidates the cycle. Eleven of them were already beaten
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in the primaries themselves, not even close like completely thrashed.
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Eleven more are still pending, and seven advanced to a
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general election. And among those seven you have people like
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aoc in New York, racheated to leeb in Detroit, Okay,
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Clair Valdes in New York, Melock Kiros and Denver, Donovan
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McKinney in Detroit, and Chris Robb is unopposed, Like, let
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me repeat that, Chris rob like one of our our
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marquee general election candidates is running against no one. So
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a more honest headline here isn't socialist sweep America like
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we're seeing everywhere you go. If we want to be
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honest about it, it's that we went eleven for twenty
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eleven for twenty nine, and the seven who made it
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through are in four cities. Again where a bag of
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hair with a D drawn on it wins by forty points. Okay,
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every movement starts somewhere in Cities are where you start, obviously, right,
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especially on the Democratic side, you start with major cities.
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But this is not a mandate. And I feel like
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too many people now are thinking that the couple wins
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that we've had is giving the DSA just a complete mandate.
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And I have watched people this week describe a Denver
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primary like it's like a referendum on Kent County or something.
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So let me just put my cards on the table,
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because I've been talking about this for an hour, telling
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you that my own side is about to lose a
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Senate seat and probably give Trump unchecked powers. Again. I'm
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a Democratic Socialist. Hand me the survey. I check every
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single fucking box. And since a lot of you are
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new here and have only ever heard the word used
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as a slur by some white man and a windbreaker,
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I sat down and wrote about the issues that are
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most important to me, and so here they are. Okay.
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I want healthcare to be fully decommodified. No premiums, no networks,
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no prior authorization. You know, don't get that letter in
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the mail explaining that your treatment was denied. Right now,
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when insurance executive somewhere receives a bonus calculated on how
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many people he denied, that is the actual fucking job
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that is. That is his performance review. How many people
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did you let die? Today? He goes home and someone
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literally asks how. A member of his family asked how
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his day was, and he's like great, and it was
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great because some woman in Toledo didn't get to get
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her breast exam scan. Like this is not just like
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a bug. That's the whole fucking feature of it, Okay,
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And before someone emails me, yes, yes, there is a
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version of this that exists, and guess what. It works
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in a dozen countries with way worse weather, and they
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have way better medical outcomes than we do. And no,
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by the way, none of them are communists or fascists.
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They don't have goologs. And if your entire counter argument
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is a country that stopped existing in nineteen ninety one,
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that's your entire counter argument to this, then you're just ignorant. Okay. Secondly,
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housing is infrastructure. It is not an asset class. We
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built an entire economy on the premise that shelter must
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get more expensive forever. And that was a choice, right,
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a choice made by people, most of whom are still alive,
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and not one of whom is probably sorry about it.
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Three workers own more of what they make. I don't
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believe that to slogan, I'm saying board seats, sectoral bargaining,
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actual ownership stakes, Like, if you are producing the value
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that you if you are producing the value you should
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be holding some of that. You should be owning some
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of that. Four. I believe that public goods should stay
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public water, power, transit, male schools. Letting anyone monetize water
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is that should be a fucking crime. I mean I
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anyone who would vote for that, they should have to
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explain it to their grandchildren, you know. And I truly
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don't believe that there's anything just absolutely insane about any
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of those four points. Okay, like every single one of
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them existed in some form in this country at some point,
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and then it got dismantled by the people who were
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profiting from the actual act and system of the dismantling,
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all right, and then lastly, my number five here, the
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word democratic here is not just decoration in the term
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democratic socialism. It means that you do this through elections,
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00:52:03.639 --> 00:52:07.639
through ballots and majorities and you know, getting together your
852
00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:14.159
coalition again elections. Okay, it's not someone deciding on your behalf.
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If you cannot win the argument with your neighbors, you
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do not get to have control or be part of
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the political system or the right like the elected system.
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That's it. That is the terrifying agenda of democratic socialists,
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right doctors, apartments, housing, water and clean resources and holy shit,
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lock up your children in every argument against all of it,
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like when you squeeze it hard enough and people just
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really come out against it, it comes out with or
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as you know, but then some people would have less. Yes,
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00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:54.719
that is correct. Yes, I believe in this country more
863
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than I believe in any party, including the one that
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I am registered with, and including the one that I
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00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:03.599
pays dues to. Okay, the Democratic Party is a vehicle.
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That is all it's ever been. It is quite literally
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the shitty beat up minivan. In the back, it has
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a bad transmission, check engine lights on. Someone probably put
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00:53:12.320 --> 00:53:16.840
tape over a headlight like or tail light. I'm not
870
00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:19.199
in love with it. I need to get somewhere and
871
00:53:19.239 --> 00:53:24.480
it's the only vehicle in the driveway. Unfortunately, truly unfortunate. Okay,
872
00:53:25.480 --> 00:53:32.760
But I just that's the country, okay. Like I love
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00:53:32.800 --> 00:53:36.960
this country, I truly do. It's unglamorous, right, and it's
874
00:53:37.320 --> 00:53:39.480
in the way that you love something that you also hate,
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00:53:39.880 --> 00:53:42.760
you know. But it's kind of like the version where
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00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:46.000
the mail shows up, where the bridge holds, where somebody
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00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:48.719
you will never meet ran a water treatment plant. So
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00:53:49.079 --> 00:53:52.960
like your kid didn't get sick. Like that is our country, right,
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00:53:53.039 --> 00:53:55.559
Like that's what all of us are voting for and
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00:53:55.599 --> 00:53:58.000
working for. I don't have kids. I hate kids, but
881
00:53:58.159 --> 00:54:00.559
like I want you and your children to live in
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00:54:00.599 --> 00:54:04.960
a safe, clean world, and a party is just the
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00:54:05.079 --> 00:54:08.719
tool that you use to keep that system running so
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00:54:08.760 --> 00:54:12.800
that your world, your country, will evolve and have policies
885
00:54:12.840 --> 00:54:15.679
and whatnot that you more so want to live in
886
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and live under. But here's the thing, guys, is that
887
00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:22.159
when the math does not math, I'm gonna say so,
888
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and right now to me, the math does not math.
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I know everyone is very excited, but nationally again, the
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DSA back twenty nine house candidates the cycle. Eleven were
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00:54:33.639 --> 00:54:37.079
already defeated in the primaries, eleven more are still pending.
892
00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:41.199
Only seven advanced to the generals, and those seven are
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00:54:41.360 --> 00:54:47.760
surprised New York, Philadelphia, Denver, and Detroit. And that's where
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00:54:47.760 --> 00:54:52.159
the Democratic primary is. The entire election. We are undefeated
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00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:58.159
in rooms in areas where there's no other option. We
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00:54:58.320 --> 00:55:02.400
have not yet won a single competitive statewide general race
897
00:55:02.599 --> 00:55:05.639
anywhere in this country. And what's so incredulous to me
898
00:55:05.880 --> 00:55:09.480
is that with so much at stake, there is a
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00:55:09.960 --> 00:55:13.960
massive amount of Democratic voters that are currently arguing on
900
00:55:14.000 --> 00:55:17.360
whether they're about to leave the Democratic Party entirely. There
901
00:55:17.400 --> 00:55:20.239
is a resolution floating around to build a new Socialist
902
00:55:20.280 --> 00:55:24.480
Party with the Working Families Party, also the Green Party
903
00:55:24.920 --> 00:55:28.039
and the Communist Party USA, and they're aiming at state
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00:55:28.079 --> 00:55:32.400
and local races by twenty twenty eight. Isn't that absolutely wild? Again?
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00:55:32.760 --> 00:55:36.480
Those parties, the Working Families, the Greens, and the Communist Party. Okay,
906
00:55:37.320 --> 00:55:40.639
Like in a country where roughly zero percent of the
907
00:55:40.679 --> 00:55:44.599
electorate has ever voted for two of those three parties,
908
00:55:45.079 --> 00:55:47.559
in a cycle where a Senate seat in Michigan is
909
00:55:47.639 --> 00:55:53.360
quite literally on a knife edge, some share some population
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00:55:53.480 --> 00:55:56.920
of my own party is trying to think about starting
911
00:55:56.960 --> 00:55:59.440
a new party for twenty twenty eight. I sort of
912
00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:03.039
got I'm a Democrat, okay, registered Democrat. I will always
913
00:56:03.119 --> 00:56:06.440
vote Democrat, period, full fucking stop. But I swear to god,
914
00:56:06.519 --> 00:56:09.960
we have some of the most pathetic, crying bitch babies
915
00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:12.280
in this party that I have ever seen. It is
916
00:56:12.360 --> 00:56:16.960
quite quite literally the skiing and I'm going home. That's
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00:56:17.079 --> 00:56:19.199
literally all of this. I can't tell you, guys how
918
00:56:19.239 --> 00:56:21.400
many friends I lost because how many of my friends
919
00:56:21.480 --> 00:56:25.119
during the last election just decided that Kamla was a
920
00:56:25.239 --> 00:56:28.280
war criminal or a cop an a cab. I swear
921
00:56:28.320 --> 00:56:32.280
to god, it's so hard for me not to throw hands.
922
00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:34.519
You can't see me, but I am fucking shadow boxing
923
00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:37.639
when I see or hear a Democrat or see it online,
924
00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:42.039
go a cab, A cab, A cab like okay, And
925
00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:44.199
this is what I feel is wrong with the Democratic
926
00:56:44.199 --> 00:56:46.000
Party as a whole and a lot of progressive and
927
00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:47.760
the progressive movement, is that they come out with all
928
00:56:47.760 --> 00:56:50.880
these little catchphrases that aren't cute, by the way, because
929
00:56:51.119 --> 00:56:54.239
what sane person wants to abolish the police, at least
930
00:56:54.239 --> 00:56:57.760
in our current world, right Like, I understand where they're
931
00:56:57.800 --> 00:57:01.679
coming from, and I understand. Don't get started, don't start
932
00:57:01.679 --> 00:57:05.960
sending emails or leaving comments. I understand the purpose of that. However,
933
00:57:06.079 --> 00:57:10.320
Comma right, it is harmful some slogans, even if you
934
00:57:10.400 --> 00:57:16.480
understand the underlying meaning, just they sound bad. Okay, So guys,
935
00:57:17.639 --> 00:57:20.119
this is just a mess. And this is what I
936
00:57:20.199 --> 00:57:22.639
mean too when I say the math is not gonna math.
937
00:57:23.360 --> 00:57:27.960
You need fifty one senators, not fifty one correct senators
938
00:57:27.960 --> 00:57:30.519
that one hundred percent align with you. You just need
939
00:57:30.559 --> 00:57:34.760
fifty one senators of having that letter by the name. Okay.
940
00:57:35.639 --> 00:57:39.519
The Senate does not care about how you feel about
941
00:57:39.519 --> 00:57:41.480
the theory of change, all right, Like it only cares
942
00:57:41.519 --> 00:57:45.559
about who organizes the chamber, who chairs the judiciary, and
943
00:57:46.679 --> 00:57:49.239
who has the power to get fucking shit passed. A
944
00:57:49.280 --> 00:57:52.159
mediocre democrat from a state that you have never visited,
945
00:57:52.559 --> 00:57:54.960
but who votes with you sixty percent of the time
946
00:57:56.039 --> 00:58:00.559
is doing the one thing that the most out standing,
947
00:58:00.840 --> 00:58:05.639
flawless democratic socialist who lost by three points is not doing,
948
00:58:06.119 --> 00:58:10.320
and that is existing inside of the government building helping
949
00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:16.639
govern Okay, this is just math. This is just math, okay.
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00:58:16.679 --> 00:58:19.559
And I want to be honest, Like there is a
951
00:58:19.679 --> 00:58:23.519
version of this show where I actually thought really long
952
00:58:23.519 --> 00:58:28.320
and hard about published publicly stating my actual beliefs, and
953
00:58:28.440 --> 00:58:30.960
that was actually what drove me up a wall when
954
00:58:31.000 --> 00:58:33.280
I did the True Crime moderation of We Saw the Devils,
955
00:58:33.280 --> 00:58:37.400
because I felt constrained and I felt boxed in, and
956
00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:40.239
I knew a lot of my listeners were right wing,
957
00:58:40.519 --> 00:58:44.039
and many Mormons, I guess because of the Lori Valo case.
958
00:58:44.559 --> 00:58:47.559
But I never really actually fully shared my personal or
959
00:58:47.599 --> 00:58:50.880
political beliefs there. I think I was only vaguely out
960
00:58:50.920 --> 00:58:55.519
at some point too. But I'm gonna be completely honest
961
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with you guys. I'm going to spend the next eighty
962
00:58:58.159 --> 00:59:03.559
nine days doing everything I can for abdul Elsi ed okay,
963
00:59:03.840 --> 00:59:07.400
because he is the nominee. He won it fair, and
964
00:59:07.480 --> 00:59:10.679
the alternative here is a big farm, a lobbyist who
965
00:59:10.679 --> 00:59:14.400
thinks that the last election was stolen. And because I
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00:59:14.400 --> 00:59:17.000
would rather do everything in my power to get someone
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00:59:17.519 --> 00:59:19.599
I mean, God, we align on almost one hundred percent
968
00:59:19.599 --> 00:59:22.719
of our beliefs like that elected, and I would like
969
00:59:22.760 --> 00:59:25.440
to do everything in my power. Okay, But I am
970
00:59:25.440 --> 00:59:27.320
not gonna sit here and pretend and light to y'all
971
00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:32.039
that I like the odds of this election. Again, I'll
972
00:59:32.039 --> 00:59:34.199
say it for the fiftieth time. The mathe and math
973
00:59:34.280 --> 00:59:37.719
in here. It just truly is not. There is a
974
00:59:37.760 --> 00:59:41.480
big difference of beating Hailey Stevens in a primary than
975
00:59:41.519 --> 00:59:45.360
beating the entirety of Michigan when he goes up against Rogers.
976
00:59:46.239 --> 00:59:49.320
Those are not good odds. And everyone currently telling you
977
00:59:49.559 --> 00:59:53.039
that the opposite is going to be extremely quiet with
978
00:59:53.079 --> 00:59:56.480
you on November fourth. Okay, but we can beat the money.
979
00:59:56.679 --> 00:59:59.679
It happened on Tuesday. I'm largely considering main and a
980
00:59:59.679 --> 01:00:01.719
lost cause now because did you guys hear it's like
981
01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:04.320
Maine is cursed. I don't know what is going on
982
01:00:04.400 --> 01:00:07.920
in Maine, but first you had the grand Platner, the tattoo,
983
01:00:08.559 --> 01:00:12.639
the rape accusation, and then Troy Jackson, who took over
984
01:00:12.679 --> 01:00:16.239
the mantle, came out that he's fucking in a relationship
985
01:00:16.239 --> 01:00:22.480
with his second cousin for like over twenty years. So okay, cool,
986
01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:25.920
So I guess we probably lost Maine. And so now
987
01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:30.320
if we want, we need, we have to take Michigan. Guys,
988
01:00:30.679 --> 01:00:32.840
even if you're not from Michigan, even if you're in
989
01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:37.599
Nebraska or Arizona or Washington State, we need to do
990
01:00:37.639 --> 01:00:39.599
all that we can, even if it's donating a couple
991
01:00:39.599 --> 01:00:43.639
bucks here and there sharing news articles about him. If
992
01:00:43.679 --> 01:00:46.719
you have family who live in Michigan, for the love
993
01:00:46.760 --> 01:00:50.599
of God, please educate them because we cannot have a
994
01:00:50.679 --> 01:00:54.599
loss here, full stopping period. And so much is writing
995
01:00:54.840 --> 01:00:59.239
against ELSI ed and I hope I'm wrong. I really
996
01:00:59.239 --> 01:01:01.280
hope I'm wrong. I hope that the world ends up
997
01:01:01.800 --> 01:01:07.000
with rainbow Unicorn shitting rainbows and El Saya or Abdul
998
01:01:07.119 --> 01:01:14.360
el Sayed just absolutely tears apart Peters. But guys, I'm
999
01:01:14.440 --> 01:01:17.400
just not feeling that that is gonna happen. I feel
1000
01:01:17.440 --> 01:01:20.280
and this is something that I've noticed, just explicitly, honestly,
1001
01:01:20.360 --> 01:01:22.239
for whatever I mean. Obviously I know it happens on
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01:01:22.280 --> 01:01:25.679
the Republican side as well, but I feel like it's
1003
01:01:25.719 --> 01:01:29.760
so interesting because my circle is far far, far left right,
1004
01:01:29.800 --> 01:01:33.719
like it's very far left. But I feel that a
1005
01:01:33.760 --> 01:01:37.119
lot of these people aren't aware that we're not the majority,
1006
01:01:37.920 --> 01:01:40.320
you know what I mean, Like moderates are the majority
1007
01:01:40.320 --> 01:01:43.039
in this country. The far left or the progressive left
1008
01:01:43.119 --> 01:01:45.280
or whatever you want to call it, is not the
1009
01:01:45.360 --> 01:01:50.679
majority in this country. So it's interesting, especially on social
1010
01:01:50.760 --> 01:01:52.760
media when you can you know, whether it's threads or
1011
01:01:52.800 --> 01:01:56.199
Instagram or blue Sky for whoever is on that Twitter
1012
01:01:56.440 --> 01:02:00.559
TikTok whatever. You can mold your own algorithm to show
1013
01:02:00.599 --> 01:02:03.679
you your own echo chamber. That's how the system is
1014
01:02:03.719 --> 01:02:06.320
built to keep you coming back, to keep them making money.
1015
01:02:07.119 --> 01:02:11.519
You know. So, I don't know. That's it for today, though, guys,
1016
01:02:11.599 --> 01:02:14.119
thank you so much for listening. I love y'all so much.
1017
01:02:14.559 --> 01:02:18.559
That is the show again. If you enjoyed listening and
1018
01:02:18.599 --> 01:02:21.079
you want to reach out or support, Patreon is under
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01:02:21.119 --> 01:02:23.880
we saw the Devil again. The Nolan of the second
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01:02:23.960 --> 01:02:28.320
Nolan Wells episode is coming tomorrow as well. Starting next week,
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01:02:28.360 --> 01:02:30.639
the patrons get the B sides, which is basically an
1022
01:02:30.639 --> 01:02:33.159
extended cut where it's going to be like a fifteen
1023
01:02:33.320 --> 01:02:36.960
maybe thirty minute thing individual episodes where I just basically
1024
01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:41.400
say the things that my own better judgment probably removed
1025
01:02:41.400 --> 01:02:45.719
from the removed me saying. The first time Twitter is
1026
01:02:45.719 --> 01:02:47.679
that we saw the Devil TikTok, as we saw the
1027
01:02:47.679 --> 01:02:51.320
double politics. Instagram is that we saw the Devil podcast.
1028
01:02:51.639 --> 01:02:54.840
And then I'm also at Robin Underscore WSTD. If you
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01:02:54.920 --> 01:02:58.880
want my personal one again, it's like ninety percent dogs
1030
01:03:00.360 --> 01:03:04.119
Lotel and my wife Facebook as we saw the Devil
1031
01:03:04.199 --> 01:03:07.719
and then everything else is wesawdedevil dot com again. There's
1032
01:03:07.760 --> 01:03:10.079
two to three episodes a week, depending on the news cycle.
1033
01:03:10.599 --> 01:03:13.639
And guys, I'm closing out with it again too. Michigan
1034
01:03:13.719 --> 01:03:16.880
votes in eighty nine days. Nothing about that is going
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01:03:16.920 --> 01:03:18.920
to be easier between now and then. So if you
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01:03:18.920 --> 01:03:21.760
can check chip in in any way, whether it's boots
1037
01:03:21.840 --> 01:03:25.679
on the ground, sharing resources, donating money. You can also
1038
01:03:25.840 --> 01:03:28.480
assist in phone banking and stuff like that from away too.
1039
01:03:28.480 --> 01:03:30.519
In text banking, you don't have to live in Michigan
1040
01:03:30.559 --> 01:03:34.000
to assist. And again, last thing, guys, if I am
1041
01:03:34.079 --> 01:03:36.800
wrong about all of this, I will say so on
1042
01:03:36.840 --> 01:03:39.320
the microphone and you can screenshot it. You know. Shit,
1043
01:03:39.440 --> 01:03:42.559
I will send out free t shirts of me eating
1044
01:03:42.559 --> 01:03:45.000
my own words or something like on a T shirt
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01:03:45.000 --> 01:03:46.920
to people who call me out on this. But in
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01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:50.880
any case, I love y'all, thank you for listening, and
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I will talk to you again this weekend.