ABOUT THIS EPISODE
We look back on Season 1 and name the big pattern we keep hearing from every guest: pivoting changes everything when we choose it on purpose. ✨🎙️
We share what we've learned about autonomy, community, delegation, exposure, and building a platform while still living full, real lives.
• Remote recording realities and learning as we go
• Balancing day jobs with entrepreneurship and coaching
• Choice and autonomy as motivation and leadership styles
• Working styles in partnerships and personality insights
• Delegation as a growth strategy and why human support matters
• Favorite Season 1 guest moments on tradition, authenticity, and impact
• Why exposure drives opportunity using the PIE model
• Pivoting the show format for sustainability in Season 2
🚀 Season 1 was about showing up, doing it scared, and building the plane as we fly. Season 2? We're just getting started!
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TRANSCRIPT 🔗
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Hi, welcome to the We Have Range podcast.
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I'm Michelle Gresham.
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And I'm Ivory Jordan.
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All right, so we're shaking it up for our season one review.
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We are remote, um, and we're shaking it up for season two as well.
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But I'm in Phoenix, Arizona, and Ivory is recording from California, her second home.
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And um, we're gonna do all things season one and talk about what we loved and what we didn't like, what we learned.
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Um, I don't know.
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Ivory, what's been going on?
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I haven't seen you in what a good month.
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I mean, we've talked, but I haven't physically seen you and hung out.
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I feel like it's been, yeah, it's been about a month since we filmed.
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Um, we were filming with Morel the last time.
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Oh, when we did our photo shoot so far.
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We did our photo shoot.
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The pictures are looking fire.
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Um, I'm actually gonna see him later today.
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We're gonna do pool day here in Arizona.
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I'm jealous.
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I thought about that when you mentioned that.
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I was like, oh, I wish I could be there.
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Yeah, so what's been going on?
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I'm feeling a little um, I'm feeling anxious, one.
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We were trying to figure out our whole setup at home.
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Um, this is not our.
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We're still figuring it out, y'all.
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Listen, what what we recognize is that uh when you are, you can prepare as much as you want, but when it's game time, you just gotta go.
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No matter how ready you feel, you just gotta make it happen.
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But Michelle, what's been going, what's been going on in your world?
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How is your how's daytime career balancing being an entrepreneur?
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Anything standing out for you right now?
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Um what's standing out for me?
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Well, the new job is fire.
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It's literally one of my dream roles.
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Um, you know how much I'm passionate about people, leading people and developing and coaching.
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So I feel like my day is moving into, well, no, my evening with being an executive coach is definitely informing a lot in my daytime.
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Um, because I'm coaching and developing people to leading, and uh it's just it's fun.
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I've been having a lot of fun because I like to win, so I'm still deal making, um, managing a PL and it's um it's what I live for.
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It's fun.
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Every day is different.
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Um, I'm not an office person, so I'm out with clients, I'm in the office at times, but we're doing fun stuff.
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Today I'm feeling exhausted, which is why I'm just having a pool day at the house, um, with some friends, food, drinks, and um I don't know.
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I need a vacation.
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What about you?
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What's up, what's up with you?
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What have you been up to?
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Uh well, uh a lot.
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So tell me.
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I always say I have a career, I'm an entrepreneur, I want to I run a business um that I'm really excited about, actually.
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Um, and I just I think all the things being an entrepreneur and having children, living in a couple states, uh this is not for the faint of heart, honey.
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But what I'm recognizing just at this stage in the game, 20 plus years and career, and now making this entrepreneurial pivot, is that um there's a lot of similarities that I've taken from career that I am using in my entrepreneurial endeavors and vice versa, I would say.
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So the skill sets um are certainly interchangeable.
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And uh I'm just I do think I've I I feel confident I am at this stage where I put up with a lot less shit.
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So tell me about it.
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I am accepting who I am, what my experience looks like, and I'm really leaning into doing things that serve me well and um making sure to continue to set boundaries personally and professionally, and um just trying to make sure to balance it all.
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So I love that.
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So the other day I had the pleasure.
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Can you see this book?
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I didn't know the comeback era, and uh Yasmin Shem uh Cheyenne is the author, and I'm a member of Chief, and so they had this event the other day across the country where she spoke um to the entire Chief organization, and people were piping in from everywhere.
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In Phoenix, we had The Gathering with Everybody, and this book literally talks about it's it was kind of ironic because the tagline says Living Without Limits.
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And what is our tagline for We Have Range?
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We have range no limits without limits.
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We say without limits, no limits.
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And so when I saw that, I was like, Oh, this is so good.
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Not, you know, knowing that we were going to record uh today, and this was just a few days ago when I joined that.
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But some of the things she talked about is exactly what you you said.
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She's like, Can I be honest?
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And we're all sitting there like, this is on as heaven.
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Like, you can't come and not be authentic in front of this group because that's what Chief talks about, the multifaceted, which you and I multifaceted, we're doing all the things day career, evening career, raising families, um, and being in relationships with people.
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But some of the things she talked about, and I wanted to share it with you, and I want to see which one resonates for you.
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The seven C's, she has a chapter in there, and one of the questions I asked her, which one um resonated with her most?
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And here's the seven commitment, community, creativity, compelling, choice, challenging, confirming.
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Which one do you think she said resonated with her most?
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And I want to know which one resonates with you.
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Community, commitment was one.
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And stop me when you think the one you think it is.
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Community, creativity, compelling, choice, challenging, confirming.
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Gosh, I love a lot of those.
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Uh, but for me, what like instantly resonates is choice.
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Oh, that's the one she said.
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The reason why I love when she said that, I was like, ooh, because it's nothing like having autonomy and making your own choices.
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So last night you and I were texting.
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You was like, hey, I need you to take this personality test.
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And Ivory and I know each other.
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Personality test is so um objective that you can't, you can't finagle.
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You're gonna ask, you're gonna answer the questions and you're gonna spit out this result.
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And I know why you did it.
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And I said to you, what did I say to you?
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You said, uh, you're giving me homework, and I don't know.
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I was like, Why are you giving me homework?
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And you're like, I said it's not urgent.
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And I was like, Oh, it's for you more than it is for me.
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Yeah, like the world is that you want to know how to work best with me.
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You know me, but I think when you do a personality test, like I said, it's an objective view, and you can really see categories of how to work best with someone.
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So thank you for being so self-aware and a great partner for wanting to say, How can I best show up for my shell in the way that she likes to work?
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So that choice thing, I was like, don't be giving me homework.
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Autonomy.
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I love that just I love autonomy.
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I want to do it on my own terms, but I appreciate that you're you wanting to know me, and I will do it by the way, um, because it's one that you probably can read best.
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So, anyway, tell me a little bit more about choice.
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Yeah, so I just want to piggyback on that a little bit, but um it I think about even this season as we've interviewed guests, we have this process we go through where we're getting to know them, understanding who they are, doing the research.
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And I would say that part of um I'll there's this strength that I have in being curious.
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Being curious is can take you very far in in your relationships.
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And so I think sometimes when you're working so closely with someone as you and I do, um, on our platform, we think that, oh, well, we we already know each other, let's just keep rolling.
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So part of my wanting to um be sharper is like I can take this into the same uh frame of mind as I do with our guests, I do all this research, but they come on it on a show and then they move on.
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I mean, we always say connected, yeah, but you're someone I work with all the time, you know, you know, in our partnership.
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And so why not take a step back and be like, let me get to know my shell a little deeper and um and to make sure I take advantage of whatever insights I draw.
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So I just want to say that working that muscle of information and prep, you know, doing a whole bunch of study is not my in fact, I learned about this with mics and trying to get lighting right.
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So I love you for that.
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Yeah, so just so you know how my shell is, she the one that then did the run of show, went over the notes.
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We then had uh a couple preps, she's looking at things, and I'm like, okay, it's 20 minutes before go time.
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What are what are we talking about?
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So then you know what that does?
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I love that you said this live, so we're we're workshopping this live.
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Um then her asking me all these things right before, it throws me off.
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So before you even get my personality test, you don't throw me off my kilter because that throws me off.
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So then I gotta readjust my whole energy.
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And by the way, we did zero prep for today.
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So if it comes off of a hot ass mess, I call it, I call it three percent, I say 35%.
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We did 35%.
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We did do 35%.
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We like we gotta be on at nine and make sure your stuff is together.
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And I didn't have a stand for my ghetto mic situation.
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Here it is.
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Um I got a ghetto mic too.
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My mic is in a coffee cup right now.
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It works, it's working.
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I didn't have a body together though.
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We're gonna get it together.
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So our assistant got the cord at I was like, Can you just order so I can just pick it up at Best Buy?
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She did an amazing job.
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Listen, we don't run this by ourselves, we have a uh small crew, very small.
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It's on a huge string budget.
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So if you want to sponsor the we have range, uh I'm trying to tell you.
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I'm trying to tell you, and I can't, and we we do have our first sponsorship.
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I'll mention it here.
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Oh, yeah, mention it.
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I'm very excited about this.
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Yes, so it's Scale X.
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Okay, so as uh Michelle and I continue to run many different work streams, um my I have a company I started that I'm really excited about, uh Scale X.
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It's an executive assistant outsourcing company and founded uh was me and my co-founder.
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And what I learned that in business, I learned that this is in life, personally and professionally.
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If you don't delegate work, if you don't delegate, like I recognize I would not be where I'm at in career, personally, professionally, doing all the things, serial entrepreneur, which by the way, I embrace a lot of people say I can have a job and that's it.
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Or I might be able to do a job and a podcast and that's it, you know.
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But when you one of the things I read, first of all, let me just say that.
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I speaking of books, and we're gonna come back to toys.
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Yeah, it's this is all related.
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I read a book called This The Cell by Frederick Eklund, and he's one of the most successful real estate uh brokers that built his career out of Manhattan and New York.
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Very, very competitive environment.
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But as I read his book, before I could uh, you know, even have formal training and coaching and things like that, I just said, let me pick up a book and find out what it takes to be at the top of your game selling billions of dollars in real estate.
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And what he said is as he grew in career, every time he made a little bit more money, he would take that money and invest in delegating.
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So he talked about house cleaning, he talked about washing cars, like instead of you know going somewhere to get car washed, having someone come to you, he talked about um laundry and laundry being the barrier because you could be spending that time on production.
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Doing something else, yeah.
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Doing something else.
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So one thing that has just really led to my success is having an executive assistant that I delegate a lot of work.
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And in the world of AI, someone might be like, oh, I just have an AI agent bought for that.
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Some people do, because the whole world is not caught up.
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But there's something about what I still believe will hold true for as long as I'm alive and in career and outsourcing is that it is human, the human component that we have who supports us powered by technology.
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And so, um, so with my show and I working with a lot of executives who are gonna continue to have a lot of range at different parts of their career.
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I got inspired by just thinking, who am I?
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What built my career?
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What have I done to really lead to success?
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And that when it came to having an executive assistant.
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And I So it's been impactful for you.
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It's been it's been it's it's changed the landscape of my career and my ability to do a lot and to do more.
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And when I say that, um, we we say um when I say that, it allows me to even have more time with my family, to do things that I really care about, to schedule those personal dinners, you know, with friends and things like that.
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So it's it's so much more than just having um an assistant, it really helps.
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Um, it really helps.
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So I'm glad to have Skill X sponsoring uh We Have Range and getting back to the point, and then I'll roll it in.
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Choice.
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Reel it in quick, lady.
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Come on.
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Choice.
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So when you have Michelle's uh she she's uh our run of show queen, but when it when it comes to uh success and building entrepreneurial endeavors, um, I do it, I try to think why am I doing it?
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I'm doing it because I want to have choice, I want to have freedom, I want to wake up days into the future and decide, you know what?
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It's a Tuesday, I'm sitting by the pool today because nobody is telling me where I need to show up or where I have to be.
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So choice really resonates with me and it honestly is is is my motivation in all things.
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Oh, what about for you, Michelle?
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What which one of these sevens which one of those words stood out to you?
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Well, you already know choice.
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Um I love autonomy.
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I probably give people sometimes way too much autonomy um because when things go off the rail, we actually experience that in our business a little bit, giving people autonomy and them not really taking the autonomy and feeling empowered.
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I like autonomy because I like to empower people.
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And um when you think about autonomy, that's exactly what you're doing.
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You're empowering people to take their own direction, right?
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And so my leadership style and the way I lead my life is do what do what you need to do, but here's the end result that we need to get to.
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I don't I don't have time to tell you how to get there, but here's what I need to get to A, and you need to figure out how to get us there.
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Um, so choice definitely resonates, but you know me.
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Uh community.
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I am community queen.
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I love having a village of people.
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Um, I could have not done anything, and it kind of goes back to that, you know, having assistance and delegating, you have a community of people that's helping you get to the place that you're at.
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And I love when people uh say, Well, I got here on my own.
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No, you no, you didn't.
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No, you didn't.
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No one gets anywhere by themselves.
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And so when you don't give credit to the team, when you don't give credit to the people who have empowered you and elevated you to get to A, it shows a bit of selfishness, in my opinion.
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And um, you have to give credit to people around you.
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Um, and I know that my shell is not my shell without my amazing network of people um to help me get here and in basically uh helping me elevate to the space.
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So I would let's expand on that a little bit.
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As a certified coach, how do you what perspective do you bring um with from a coaching perspective when it when it took when related to getting people and moving people to where they are?
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Because one of the things we've talked about is it still has to start with the person.
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Still has to start with the person.
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I love that you say that.
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Um, as you know, we started Range Exchange, and that's our monthly group coaching, and I do 101 coaching as well.
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But the monthly group coaching, one of the central things that we said to them, listen, uh this is your you make the choice.
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The choice is yours.
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So we you tell us the goals, we help hold you accountable, but you um create all of your accountability metrics.
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So if you say, um, I always use the gym because it's uh one that most people relate to.
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They either lean in or they lean out.
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And most times people are leaning in and out at various times.
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But if you say, I want to lose 10 pounds, we say, okay, how do you get there?
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And he's like, Well, I need to go to the gym.
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I want to eat better.
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Okay, what can you commit to to getting to the gym?
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So we always put it back on the person to make the choice.
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Um, and so that goes back to the autonomy.
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You have the autonomy to create your goal.
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Um, you also have the autonomy to create the metrics of getting there.
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We're just gonna hold you accountable to the thing that you say that you really want.
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Um, oh, shout out to Erica.
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I was just looking at my nails in the camera.
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They look really good.
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Erica, love you.
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Um mine needs to get done.
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We'll keep them hands down, hands on the knees, hands.
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But you know, not to digress, but seriously, it's really about we're empowering them to make the choice.
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And so um, I didn't even think about it until you just said it.
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Um, and that's probably why I love choice so much, because I can't blame someone for uh not being successful at something, right?
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I either get out the bed and move and make things happen or I don't.
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Yeah.
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And I realize, especially you and I, uh I know how we are.
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We're we love community and we love people.
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And I myself am guilty of being like, I just want to will people into doing, you know, I want people to experience a lot of the freedoms and choice that I have in life.
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And maybe if I just tell them to do the thing, they'll get to doing the thing, you know.
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Oh, yeah.
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Can I relate to it?
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Um, like even now, I need to get I need to get back on my own uh fit journey.
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Um, I'm I'm in a leaning out period and I need to uh start leaning back in.
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But I'm just glad you uh bring that to the attention that it still has to start with um first setting a goal, start with you, and then if you don't get there, who do you have to look at other than the person in the mirror?
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All right.
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So um thank you for sharing that.
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I'm hopefully that will help somebody who's listening to this because I think a lot more people need to make choice and not blame other people for why it's not working for them.
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And I also hate that be accountable for the things that's not working for you.
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It's not the man, it's not the, you know, when I say the man, people who work in corporate, it was like, oh, I'm being held down.
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I done bust through all kinds of doors and keep busting through the doors, and no one tells me what I can't do.
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Um, I figure out how to work through the systems and get what I want.
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And I think also that's one of the things that through our coaching and uh that we really are trying to teach people that there's a method of how to do corporate.
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If you want to be in corporate, there's a way to navigate corporate.
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And I think some people just don't corporate well, they do not corporate well.
00:21:44.480 --> 00:21:48.880
And you talk about busting down barriers and doors, Michelle.
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And we can we can overlay that in a lot of ways as being women, um, as being women of color, as being in a very old industry where we be.
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Began our careers and have flourish in our careers.
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Yeah.
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What you when you say that right now, it it resonates with me.
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With I say no is the beginning of the conversation.
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No is how do I turn that to yes?
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No, I'm glad I hear no because that just means I now need to turn another way.
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I now I need to find another path to getting to the yes.
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I have experienced that with you.
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I can tell you something.
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You're like, but now I was like, what part of the first thing did you not hear?
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And you're like, but I think that we know, and you'll keep going.
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And somehow eventually, actually doing the podcast.
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You saying, I want to do a podcast.
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I was like, yeah, we're gonna do our coaching, we're gonna scale it, we're gonna do our sales training.
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Like, that was my focus.
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I always said we should do a podcast.
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I was like, Oh, let's do audio, and you're like, No, no, no, we should do video.
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Yeah, one of the things of all beautiful you are.
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Oh, well, thank you.
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You as well.
00:22:58.799 --> 00:23:05.119
Um, one of the things that we're gonna talk about is the central theme of season one, and it was all about pivoting.
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We did a lot of pivots, we pivoted along the way, and I think one of the things that people need to understand is you need to identify when it's time to pivot.
00:23:15.920 --> 00:23:22.160
And we'll talk a little bit more about what's coming in season two, but let's get into the season one review.
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Okay.
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Um we're gonna start with Miss Sylvia K.
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Austin.
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I love Sylvia.
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So let's see this, let's see this short.
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Tradition.
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What I call peer pressure from dead people, right?
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I am just at a space.
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Peer pressure from the ancestors.
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I have never heard that before.
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We can't just roll past that tradition.
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Tradition is peer pressure from dead people.
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Yes.
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That's fams.
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That's actually fam.
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That is real.
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That's a bar right there.
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That is a bar.
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It is.
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I'm just at an age where I am asking myself, does this work for me?
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Does this work for the next iteration of who I'm becoming?
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Podcast that I love, it's called Hidden Brain.
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They have this one episode about groupthink.
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And when you move from the group because it's something that you're realigning, that this is exactly what you're talking about.
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Yes.
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I'm moving from the group to do the thing that I want to do.
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Yes.
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And you will get kicked out of the group.
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Yes.
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And I'm fine with it.
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And I'm fine with it.
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I am fine.
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And I'm fine with it.
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I don't want to be a part of the group if that means I'm growing, if that means I'm doing what I want to do, choice comes up again.
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Choice.
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So oh my gosh.
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First of all, uh, I I've every time I see that clip and I hear that, yeah, Michelle, and I shout out to Sylvia for that line.
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That is when I went from I was already falling in love with podcasting.
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That nugget, I feel like I fell like oh head over heels, I'm married to this till I die.
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Like that, I it was so profound to think about the way we live life in tradition.
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And so, Michelle, I'll ask you what resonated with you.
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Think of all the traditions that you were following or have followed.
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What resonated with you when you first heard my first of all, your laugh was hilarious.
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You were like, wait, you were laughing, and I was just rolling right past that.
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Because you were in the talk about something, and she pops out with that, and we're like, wait, we gotta go back to that.
00:25:40.640 --> 00:25:40.960
Right.
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Um, well, so much of Sylvia's uh conversation with us resonated and it continued through dinner.
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We had such an epic dinner.
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I think we went to what did we go?
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Beauty and Essex?
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Yeah, I love it.
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Beauty and Essex for dinner, very unique place in Vegas, yeah.
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And it just really, I love her because one, we identify with her because she is an uh insurance professional.
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Yeah, and um she's so honest and authentic.
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And I love that because it boosted, I'm we'll be honest.
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It when I first started hearing her on uh on Sirius XM, her honesty and how she came out the gate and being so informed about business, but being so unapologetically a black woman in not masking or code switching, it just it empowered me uh to really lean into that.
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And I had met her I think seven years ago.
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Um, we started communicating and just formed this beautiful relationship.
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But when she talked about that um the um peer pressure from dead people, everything, not everything about my upbringing that I didn't bring into my adulthood, but a lot of things like having to go to church every Sunday in order to be aligned spiritually with something higher than me.
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Such a false narrative because I know people who go to church every Sunday and probably have never done something for someone else, you know, in service of other people.
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And that's the central thing that I took away from um growing up in the church is we are meant to service other people.
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And I consider myself a servant leader.
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Um, it's one of the central things uh that is so ingrained in me, but also um something I live by, and I taught my daughter that like Christmas.
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Um we would go to in Jersey City.
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Well, we went to a homeless shelter, um, a women's um shelter in Hoboken, and we would have dinner with them.
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Like we we had a we set our own traditions, and I remember my daughter recently reflecting on that, saying how much she appreciated not doing the thousands of gifts and you know what other people do, and we just set our own um tradition.
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What about you?
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What resonated for you from Sylvia's conversation?
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Uh it's just what she said.
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I it's the choice factor, right?
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So I love freedom of just deciding whatever I want to do for the year.
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And I'll tell you this the first um year I met Dion, who's my husband, um we were just in a first of all, we were falling so in love, we were both taking inventory of the people in our lives and the pressures we were experiencing from our respective friends, families, foes, and phonies.
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I mean, you have a little bit of everything in life, all in the mix.
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We need them all.
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Uh-huh.
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Listen, we got them all and the haters too.
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I appreciate I appreciate it all.
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Okay, it teaches me a lot.
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But that first year we were together, we both decided we're gonna go the whole year and we're not doing one holiday.
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We ain't we canceling Christmas, we canceling Halloween, don't tell me about no goddamn, I don't want to hear about St.
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Patty's Day.
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No, I don't care that it's single de Mayo, all the other dead presidents that we are celebrating.
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Talk about peer pressure from dead people.
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Listen, there, I'm sure there's a lot of reason why, and I love the time off work that people get associated and the time to regroup, but that's what we made it about.
00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:40.240
Like, it's not to say that holidays aren't fun and those traditions aren't cool, and I get why they've carried on for centuries.
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:40.880
Yep.
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But for us that year, we just moved through the days at the beat of our own drum.
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We would be people be running around Christmas shopping, and Deion would be like, babe, you want to go to Happy Hours somewhere?
00:29:54.640 --> 00:29:57.759
Like, we did not care what the world was doing.
00:29:58.000 --> 00:30:04.079
When I talk about setting myself free, and that yeah, so I learned a lot.
00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:20.880
Um, I learned a lot from from that experience, and it made me realize like, oh shoot, there's there's something incredible to just deciding I'm gonna do what the hell I want this year or this week or this month or whatever career I'm in or what thing I'm starting.
00:30:21.119 --> 00:30:24.799
So I would just say to you, my show, you you said we relate to Sylvia.
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We do.
00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:29.279
Sylvia's in insurance, I'm in the commercial business insurance world.
00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:33.279
See Sylvia's in the private client um insurance world, lots of influence.
00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:34.480
Or she does commercial too.
00:30:34.559 --> 00:30:36.960
She does commercial and commercial as well.
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:50.240
And um, but the one thing that resonated with me about Sylvia is not only was she it is she rock star in our very vast trillion dollar industry, but she too had a podcast.
00:30:50.559 --> 00:30:55.680
She also is an entrepreneur, so she also started her own business.
00:30:55.920 --> 00:30:58.480
So she is she has range.
00:30:58.640 --> 00:30:58.960
Okay.
00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:00.000
Yeah, range.
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:08.960
And by the way, she announced on the show that she is starting a new podcast with her son, talking about the parent relationship, which is so needed.
00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:23.279
I think, even as I navigate my daughter, um, who's 28, and navigating being an advisor versus parenting, you you really shift into a different gear when you have adult kids, and you'll you will experience that.
00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:32.079
And the one thing that I feel like we benefit from each other is some things I've gone through, other things you're going through, and I can learn from you.
00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:33.359
We learn from each other so well.
00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:35.119
So I really appreciate that.
00:31:35.359 --> 00:31:41.599
All right, uh, we we're not reviewing every single show, but we're we're kind of doing some highlights of a few.
00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:43.759
Unless we want to do a version two of this.
00:31:43.839 --> 00:31:50.240
This is uh the next one that we we're gonna talk about, Chris and Renee.
00:31:50.640 --> 00:31:52.480
I just love, I simply love them.
00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:54.240
They just had a new baby girl.
00:31:54.400 --> 00:32:00.640
Yeah, and let's look at what they this clip from them and we can talk about what resonated for us.
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Okay.
00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:06.079
Um, we we we talk shit and we have brains.
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We won't be on it.
00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:09.039
Well, I was fired for no reason.
00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:09.519
How about that?
00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:10.559
Fired for no reason.
00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:11.200
That part.
00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:14.079
That part, yes, y'all deserved better.
00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:24.720
And so in 2021, as I was growing on social media on my own, on TikTok, um, I was going live a lot on TikTok, so I had about a hundred thousand followers on TikTok.
00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:28.960
I was the the oldest one there, but the youngest one at heart.
00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:33.440
So I'm creating funny videos, I'm doing dance stuff, and all my coworkers are like, There goes Renee.
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:39.440
Like this is what we're doing, all right?
00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:44.559
And so that's how I was able to grow who I was because people didn't want to see a boring news anchor.
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:50.319
They didn't want to see another news anchor giving news that triggered them.
00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:52.720
They wanted to see someone with a with a personality.
00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:56.559
More than a title, all right, more than a title.
00:32:56.720 --> 00:32:59.680
Power elevate and expand is our messy.
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:01.039
Yeah, yeah.
00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:02.240
I love the first part.
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:04.480
I need to see that head roll again.
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:05.920
I know.
00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:08.240
Jimmy is so cute, they are so cute.
00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:10.960
So we didn't have Chris in that clip, but Chris is also there.
00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:16.720
He is a Las Vegas um high-end real estate um agent.
00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:21.839
Um, and in his own right, together they create amazing content.
00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:25.519
Content, and they've moved into an era of family content now.
00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:30.960
Yeah, we're talking all about being new parents, they're sharing the struggle.
00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:36.079
But one of my favorites lately that I've seen is how involved Chris is.
00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:42.559
He's always showing how he has the baby and Renee is going on girls' night, she's out doing her thing.
00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:43.519
I love it.
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:46.000
I love the balance of it all.
00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:50.720
But I I know this is your real estate agent, so I know you're very close to him.
00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:54.079
And right now, you you got a how you get a house being built.
00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:55.119
But tell me more.
00:33:56.880 --> 00:34:00.079
So, so Chris, um, so first of all, he's great.
00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:04.079
Lost age realtor, as you uh mentioned.
00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:10.320
But one of the things I again, Michelle, this is why this podcasting season has been so profound for me.
00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:15.440
Chris, as we're getting to get into the space, Chris said something on set.
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:24.880
He goes, the first thing I'll tell people when you're putting yourself out there and you're putting your brand out there is you look how you look, you sound how you sound, get over it.
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:25.440
Yeah.
00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:32.000
And I was like, the fact that I still remember, like on set, when again, just these nuggets that we've learned.
00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:48.320
And so, um, so I just really uh appreciate their contribution and also what I see on their platform versus uh, of course, Chris has a very strong real estate focused platform, and that's one part of his range.
00:34:48.559 --> 00:34:54.320
The family content is another part of his range, um, and they're both so professionally done.
00:34:54.480 --> 00:35:01.679
But what resonates with me and why I even um we'll talk about how I how I found and met Chris was through his content.
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:10.480
Yeah, so the power of social media and Michelle hate social media, social media.
00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:14.719
My when we started this my shell was like, she hates it.
00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:15.760
She hates it.
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:19.760
She's like, wait, we gotta post how often we need to put our content out.
00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:23.440
How often you be lucky if you get something from me once a month.
00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:27.280
Listen, let me just tell you that shit ain't changed.
00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:32.960
I'm not it's not that I'm like this super private person, right?
00:35:33.199 --> 00:35:35.440
But listen, it's a privilege to experience me.
00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:36.000
Excuse me.
00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:39.199
Um, hold on, where's my face?
00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:40.719
That part, that part.
00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:51.199
So for me, I don't love having people come into my space because I do feel like everybody doesn't deserve access to me.
00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:52.559
You know, I say that all the time.
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:55.760
And I have had to learn that we're gonna have a clip, I think, with Morel.
00:35:56.000 --> 00:36:05.280
And I don't know if it's talking about accent, but we talked a lot with him about how he had to remove access and not and learn not to give everybody access.
00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:24.880
And so for me, it's like to experience me, and I listen, this is not me being super cocky, but I have learned that people want to align with you because you may have a brand, they want to align with you for various reasons, whatever those reasons are, and you have to sniff out authenticity.
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:27.840
Who's been authentic, who's adding to your life?
00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:33.119
And if I find a hint of you subtracting from my life, bye-bye, you got to go.
00:36:33.280 --> 00:36:34.559
You gotta go.
00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:44.880
And I what I really love about their content, and something uh we chatted with Renee about, yeah, she's like, Sometimes I show up and you get no makeup, honey.
00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:45.599
This is me.
00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:46.800
I hate to break it to you.
00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:49.199
We were born without lashes.
00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:56.320
How many videos did I do in our content where it was like me walking the dog or me like, I gotta get this out?
00:36:56.559 --> 00:36:57.280
I love it.
00:36:57.440 --> 00:36:59.840
I I don't do makeup in my normal day.
00:36:59.920 --> 00:37:03.280
Today I put a little bit of a face on, but by the way, I'm going to the gym after this.
00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:05.920
I got this cute little cover-up on that I got from Portugal.
00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:06.400
I love it.
00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:08.800
And I have first of all, what about that lip?
00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:10.320
This lip color is smashing.
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:12.000
You know I love a good lip.
00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:12.239
What?
00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:13.360
Who where's that lip?
00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:14.559
You were supposed to send it to me.
00:37:14.639 --> 00:37:15.760
Where'd you get that lip from?
00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:17.119
Oh, this one I did.
00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:19.760
This one is um Pat McGraw.
00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:21.039
Pat McGrath.
00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:22.480
Yeah, Pat McGrath.
00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:25.039
Um, I don't know the color, but I'll tell you color.
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:26.480
I thought I sent you this one, I thought.
00:37:26.639 --> 00:37:26.800
Okay.
00:37:27.519 --> 00:37:28.159
You know what it is?
00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:28.880
Here's the thing.
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:32.000
This is why Avery has an assistant because he needs this.
00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:35.360
Can you check my text for the thing that Michelle said to me?
00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:36.559
Exactly.
00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:38.400
So you need to text Trish.
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:42.000
Uh Trish keeps our lives in check.
00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:42.480
She is amazing.
00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:43.440
Oh, she's an amazing.
00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:46.000
Like, shout out to Trish.
00:37:46.400 --> 00:37:50.880
I I want her to give her her flowers because she has been absolutely amazing.
00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:56.480
And I wouldn't have this mic hooked up if she didn't always go around where I needed the cord.
00:37:56.639 --> 00:37:59.679
She found she's like, and this Best Buy is near you and it's waiting for you.
00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:01.440
Listen, life changing.
00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:04.239
Personal assistance are everything.
00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:08.000
We won skelet, and they are season one.
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:10.559
Um and season sponsors.
00:38:11.840 --> 00:38:16.559
And we want and listen, my shell or my show and I, first of all, we believe in us.
00:38:16.719 --> 00:38:16.880
Yeah.
00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:21.920
We trust in our platform and our ability to make this everything that it's going to be.
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:36.159
And we welcome brand sponsors, beauty sponsors, business sponsors, as we're talking to a lot of executives, to grow our platform and tell the stories of everyday people and show something different.
00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:38.559
Show something different on our platform.
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:41.199
And yeah, so I'm gonna get in.
00:38:41.280 --> 00:38:44.880
We're we're gonna kind of get into I know because I know we talked about this a lot.
00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:46.719
People keep asking us, why are you doing this?
00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:47.679
Why do you decide to do this?
00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:52.880
So we'll get into that a little bit, but let's get into CJ's um, this is I think clip number three.
00:38:53.119 --> 00:38:55.199
CJ, one of our favorite guests.
00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:56.320
I love CJ.
00:38:56.639 --> 00:39:06.000
Yeah, we had a lot of yeah, this is probably one of our biggest, um, one of the greatest impressions um for our audience.
00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:07.039
We got a lot of feedback.
00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:09.199
So let's see what CJ had to say.
00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:16.079
Asking yourself, how can my success benefit a million people?
00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:18.719
Including people that haven't even been born yet.
00:39:19.199 --> 00:39:22.400
Then you would end up being a lot like me when I was much younger.
00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:25.840
I I was just so focused on what I can do right now.
00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:28.880
I wasn't focusing on being 50.
00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:41.280
And even when I turned 50, like one of the first things that I thought about when I woke up the morning that I turned 50, I thought about both of my grandmothers that lived to 95, and then I just started thinking to myself, you know what, I I want to live to 100.
00:39:41.440 --> 00:39:47.199
Like if they could live to 95, so if if I'm gonna live to 100, that's gonna take money.
00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:50.880
Yeah, so I've got to be making good decisions now.
00:39:51.280 --> 00:39:56.320
We have how long do you want to live to Ivory?
00:39:56.960 --> 00:39:59.760
Like 500 years or something like that?
00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:11.440
And I'm hoping I can see into the future.
00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:18.880
But my grandparents have lived well into their 90s, so I'll take a I'll be like CJ set to side time.
00:40:19.119 --> 00:40:20.880
Say, I want to be that what's that?
00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:21.840
A centenian?
00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:22.559
Is that what they call it?
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:23.519
Centurion.
00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:24.800
I think it's Centurion, is it?
00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:26.159
Don't ask, don't give me line.
00:40:26.239 --> 00:40:29.440
It's okay, to at least 100.
00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:31.440
Um, but I love CJ.
00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:38.239
So, my show, I I see I can't, it's hard to choose what guest we just really fall in love with.
00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:44.239
I really love them all, I have to tell you, but I'm a little biased because Courtney and I grew up together.
00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:49.840
Um, I think I've known Courtney since seventh grade.
00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:50.320
Yeah.
00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:53.199
Uh, so I've known him a really long time.
00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:56.480
Um my stepfather coached him baseball.
00:40:56.800 --> 00:41:00.079
Um, and he's such an amazing human.
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:02.559
He is, I just saw something recently.
00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:14.400
He and his wife Kelly were speaking to the Georgia House Senate, I believe, and they were talking about they created youth um uh youth sports day.
00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:17.119
It's yeah, it's been written into like did you see that clip?
00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:19.119
No, I didn't see it, but in Atlanta.
00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:29.920
In Atlanta, he lives in Atlanta, so I thought and they were in front of the Georgia's leg Georgia legislation, and I really uh am so proud of him.
00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:35.119
And so I'm a little bit biased for sure, but he's one of the favorite guests.
00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:51.760
We have many, but I will say one of the things that resonated uh with me in his uh show was just how intentional he is, like intentionally training for a year, writing his book, Life is a Marathon Built on Sprints.
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:54.639
Absolutely, you have to go get it, audience.
00:41:54.719 --> 00:41:58.559
If you have not read Courtney's book, I highly recommend it.
00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:02.159
He has, I think, two other books, and I think he said he's writing a fourth.
00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:13.920
But just how intentional he was about training for the marathon and journaling and all the life lessons, and we're gonna we keep talking about all the lessons we've learned over season one professionally and personally.
00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:22.239
But um, what was one thing from his conversation that just was like, ooh, I have a moment for you?
00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:30.800
I would say um, I even in that clip we just watched Courtney CJ, CJ.
00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:33.119
You say Courtney, calling your childhood name.
00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:51.199
But CJ really talking about looking into the future, pulling together the decisions that you make now absolutely change how you're going to be showing up 10 years from now, 20 years from now, and the impact you're gonna make.
00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:59.360
Yeah, like he said, if you live to be 100, what are you are you able to stretch out all the resources you got right now to live to 100?
00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:15.119
And not just from a money earning uh capacity, because Michelle know I like to talk about the Benjamins and get into the bag on our platform, giving people tools, techniques that we've used to have decorated careers and also be entrepreneurs.
00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:17.760
That takes a monetary engine.
00:43:18.079 --> 00:43:27.039
And so uh what resonated with me was Courtney really laying that out, but also talking about having an impact at the same time.
00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:37.119
And he was talking about with what he's doing with the youth out of Atlanta, what he's doing with young African-American boys in in the baseball um sporting industry in Atlanta.
00:43:37.280 --> 00:44:03.519
And then I'll say, shout out to CJ because he gave us an exclusive that he plans to run for office in Georgia, and I don't care what your politics say win, but we did say that we say when, but he's he let us know that he he has those aspirations, and I just think I don't care again, whatever side of the political house you're On someone who is willing to be of service to others.
00:44:03.679 --> 00:44:04.159
Yep.
00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:07.440
Is something that resonates with us here at We Have Range.
00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:11.119
And a sacrifice because you're putting talk about not wanting to be public.
00:44:11.280 --> 00:44:17.039
Like I had talked about wanting to run like for city council or school board because I'm super passionate about education.
00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:22.079
And it's generally a bunch of old ass people who sit on the school board who really don't care about education.
00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:23.920
I need to get off like today.
00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:25.599
Yeah, like today.
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:30.239
Um you have to put your entire life on Front Street, right?
00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:33.679
And so I love that he's already sh talking his own narrative.
00:44:33.840 --> 00:44:36.960
And during that conversation, he's like, I wasn't always a good person.
00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:39.360
Listen, we all have grown.
00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:50.159
And for the person who says they haven't done anything that may not be the shining thing that you want on the front page of news, um, they're lying because we all grow.
00:44:50.400 --> 00:45:03.039
We got to give people, I always talk about giving people grace, um, but that's the ultimate grace to say, listen, who you were at 18, 25, 35 surely should not be who you are at 50.
00:45:03.199 --> 00:45:07.039
And I love uh his level of self-awareness and growth.
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:16.079
Um, and so I just appreciated the conversation with him because I took away servant leader, determination, intentional.
00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:20.159
And I think you and I are so intentional about our picking and choosing.
00:45:20.239 --> 00:45:25.679
You said something else too, Ivory, that want to go back to about capital and needing capital, and you talk about money.
00:45:25.840 --> 00:45:32.639
But one of the things that we're doing for season two is that we're pivoting because we did not want to stop our podcast.
00:45:32.880 --> 00:45:37.039
We're still we're working right now with um, we're creative out of LA.
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:37.920
Zeus is on the line.
00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:39.920
Zeus, you can pop in and say hi if you want.
00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:44.320
But you know, uh, or you know, recognize by hand clap, whatever you want to do.
00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:49.360
But we're still doing the production, but we're wanting to pivot so that we can be sustainable.
00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:57.199
And as business people, you have to know when to pivot so that you can still be sustainable and consistent.
00:45:57.360 --> 00:45:58.559
And so it doesn't stop.
00:45:58.639 --> 00:46:00.960
We're just going to a different format and it's still fire.
00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:10.000
In fact, I'm gonna just say because I I love a little bit of informality, I'm kind of loving this format, and it's our first time doing a virtual, yeah.
00:46:10.480 --> 00:46:12.159
I think I I think it's great.
00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:16.639
And Michelle and I, I mean, let's face it, we're boss ass bitches.
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:25.039
We just and we're when we're bossed, we're not always going to be able to be in anybody's studio anywhere.
00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:34.559
So we're busy, and this actually frees up our time, and it frees up our time, and there's so many other things that Michelle and I are passionate about.
00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:40.320
So I just love you, co-founder, for your um continued vigilance.
00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:46.480
I think in any partnership, you have someone who might be the saver and somebody who might be the spender.
00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:48.800
And I think I think there's risk in both.
00:46:48.880 --> 00:46:53.119
If you both save and it ain't going nowhere, you're gonna be running in place in the hamster reel.
00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:59.360
If you ain't making an investment, I call it not just spending, but making an investment, there's some level of investment.
00:46:59.519 --> 00:47:08.639
But balancing those two things as partners is uh I'll just give my shell our flowers for making sure we continue to be good fiduciaries of our business.
00:47:08.880 --> 00:47:12.159
And uh podcasting is not just something you do in a season.
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:17.199
Like, I mean, we're talking about season one right now, but you it is something you stick with over time.
00:47:17.519 --> 00:47:19.039
I already found out my shell.
00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:19.840
We have fans.
00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:21.599
I don't know if you know we have fans.
00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:26.880
When I was at this event the other day, one of the chief members she goes, I'm loving your podcast.
00:47:27.039 --> 00:47:29.440
And it just meant so much to me.
00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:31.920
It meant a lot to me too.
00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:32.719
Yeah, yeah.
00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:34.639
I got a text from Kristen.
00:47:34.960 --> 00:47:40.000
Shout out to Kristen in Phoenix, she's one of my chief sisters, and she gave me live feedback.
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:41.039
I hadn't seen her.
00:47:41.199 --> 00:47:44.000
Um, but let's keep rolling because we got a couple more we got to get through.
00:47:44.159 --> 00:47:44.400
All right.
00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:46.480
We got Morale now.
00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:47.840
We get comfortable now.
00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:52.639
I feel like I not that we have, but yes, we got so much to talk about, but go ahead.
00:47:53.119 --> 00:47:56.000
Rail took us to the next level with engagement.
00:47:56.159 --> 00:47:58.079
So yeah, let's see what he had to talk about.
00:47:58.320 --> 00:47:59.119
Zeus, where you at?
00:47:59.280 --> 00:47:59.599
Ralph.
00:47:59.679 --> 00:48:00.159
Come on.
00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:02.960
That's a funny story.
00:48:03.119 --> 00:48:07.119
So the first time I got nominated was for Wendy Williams, obviously.
00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:10.800
But I always thought it was political because I lost against the 700 club.
00:48:11.119 --> 00:48:11.599
Wait.
00:48:12.400 --> 00:48:14.079
That's not about makeup.
00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:15.760
I was like, they just didn't want this lady to have it.
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:16.239
And they didn't.
00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:17.119
700 clubs.
00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:18.239
The 700 club.
00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:19.280
Is that still on?
00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:20.559
I don't even know what that is.
00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:22.159
I don't even know if they're still with this.
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:23.119
I don't even know the premise of the city.
00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:24.159
I love that you didn't know what it was.
00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:27.280
Yeah, it's like uh great grandma, your grandma.
00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:28.880
They always donate it.
00:48:29.039 --> 00:48:32.800
Yeah, always, always asking for money, always talking about something.
00:48:33.039 --> 00:48:34.480
Don't come for a 700 club.
00:48:34.639 --> 00:48:35.119
Just saying.
00:48:35.199 --> 00:48:37.519
Yeah, but I don't think they have range.
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:38.159
Okay.
00:48:38.719 --> 00:48:38.960
Okay.
00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:41.920
That's what's required.
00:48:42.159 --> 00:48:42.960
That was perfect.
00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:45.280
All right.
00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:50.400
So um I love Morale, and I'm jealous you're with him today.
00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:52.000
Y'all left me out on purpose.
00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:52.480
You do not know what I'm saying.
00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:53.440
We'll send pictures.
00:48:53.840 --> 00:48:54.000
Nope.
00:48:54.159 --> 00:48:56.719
He texted me this week and was like, hey, I'm gonna be in Phoenix.
00:48:56.800 --> 00:48:58.639
Or maybe it was like, I'm gonna be there at the end of the week.
00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:01.840
Listen, I don't know, but I gotta tell you one thing.
00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:03.599
We have become his muse.
00:49:03.760 --> 00:49:08.960
He's done our makeup a few times, and he did our last photo shoot, and it's fire.
00:49:09.119 --> 00:49:14.000
So you'll see new photos, and we're gonna flood your timeline, people with all our new photos.
00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:14.960
We don't care.
00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:25.199
Um, now I've gotten into this posting, not really, but I'm gonna flood your timeline because the infamous Morel shot us and also did our makeup, glammed us up.
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:27.039
What do you think about the conversation?
00:49:27.519 --> 00:49:28.719
Yeah, Morel Hollis.
00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:31.679
So, first of all, he is a creative director.
00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:34.639
Uh, makeup is part of what he does for sure.
00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:37.199
That's where he got us us his start.
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:49.280
But I recognize oh my gosh, from the makeup to how he curates your outfits, yeah, every little detail, and it is the premise of Rehab Range.
00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:51.119
Morel represents Mary J.
00:49:51.280 --> 00:50:00.159
Blige, he's represented William Windows, his list and who he's worked with over his very decorated career, 30 years, I think he said.
00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:01.519
He said 30 years, yeah.
00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:04.400
It's not like 30 years because that's when I started working with him.
00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:08.480
Um we were doing videos for bad boy entertainment in New York.
00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:10.079
Um, that's where I'm Morel.
00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:12.000
And he started as a teenager.
00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:13.519
Let's also talk about that.
00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:19.280
Like, I love that we are hearing from story, hearing stories of people who started really young.
00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:22.239
So um and can share their experience with us.
00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:29.920
But he, I just he you would have never you couldn't tell me nothing when he was telling, you know, taking care of our details.
00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:34.960
I felt like I was uh a lister working with Morel.
00:50:35.119 --> 00:50:45.920
And so the premise of this of our show is to tell the stories of everyday people who are doing extraordinary things and bringing people from behind the camera, from behind the scenes.
00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:47.679
And that's who Morel represents.
00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:50.639
But Michael, I know you know Morel going back.
00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:55.760
What resonated with you in terms of uh some of what he shared on the platform with us?
00:50:56.000 --> 00:51:07.599
Yeah, and I was just gonna add, and they may already have a platform, like uh we had Ian, we're gonna go into him in a bit, but you know, Morel has an amazing platform and he really brought us into his network.
00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:18.559
And so when someone takes a chance, what what really resonated to go to your question is him believing in us, and still to this day, he's like, we should do this, we should do that.
00:51:18.719 --> 00:51:28.880
So I want to thank Morel publicly for believing in us and saying, Oh no, y'all are fire, and just being a friend consistently.
00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:39.440
And it it when we saw each other, it was like we hadn't seen each, it's like it was like yesterday, but that's when he knows that it's real true friendship, and he just absolutely loves you as well, Ivory.
00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:47.199
And when you guys first met, you you just his kind of person, and it I knew that he would, and which is I love you, you're the authentic.
00:51:47.679 --> 00:52:00.159
Um, but what resonated for me um with him is when you get to a certain point in your career, you become it can become lonely.
00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:06.239
Because very, I mean, I'm not saying that's not people that will relate, but your circle gets smaller.
00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:07.280
It does.
00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:10.639
And sometimes everybody's not gonna come along with you.
00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:15.519
And you feel you don't want to feel like you're bragging, but it's your reality, right?
00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:20.480
It becomes your reality as you start to move in different circles and people are growing with you.
00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:24.639
And if you're not growing, you might get left behind, and that's okay.
00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:33.039
So we sometimes have to say bye-bye, not intentionally, but it just happens organically that everybody will not come along.
00:52:33.440 --> 00:52:36.079
Yeah, everyone wants, yeah, that's it.
00:52:36.320 --> 00:52:42.480
And um, and we certainly, Michelle, having grown up where we are, we talk about we see it with family, with friends.
00:52:42.719 --> 00:53:01.360
Um, not everyone can go with you, but Morel really just um shed a light on that and made us feel I felt really validated listening to someone who has ascended into a level of uh being the top of his game in his space and sharing back those lessons.
00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:04.000
And so we we don't feel alone, right?
00:53:04.159 --> 00:53:10.639
I mean, we're doing something very remarkable and very credible, and there are so many people who are so happy for us.
00:53:10.880 --> 00:53:14.480
It's so we're attending our first content festival.
00:53:14.559 --> 00:53:16.960
It's called Creative Content in LA.
00:53:17.119 --> 00:53:20.159
I'm super excited because we're also expanding our network.
00:53:20.320 --> 00:53:23.199
Like the what we're doing is not our day job stuff.
00:53:23.280 --> 00:53:25.519
So we're now like, hey, we got to expand our network.
00:53:25.599 --> 00:53:29.199
We need to be in the spaces with people who are creating and learn from them.
00:53:29.280 --> 00:53:31.760
So it's gonna be really fun when we do that in a few weeks.
00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:32.719
Looking forward to that.
00:53:32.800 --> 00:53:34.960
But let's get in our to the next one.
00:53:35.199 --> 00:53:41.199
Um, Lil E, he also um expanded our uh viewing audience and our network.
00:53:41.440 --> 00:53:43.519
Um, so let's see what Lil E had to say.
00:53:43.679 --> 00:53:44.559
Lil Easy E.
00:53:44.880 --> 00:53:49.760
Junior, how did you influence your way into the space without going the traditional route?
00:53:49.920 --> 00:53:54.800
Uh a friend of mine was like, hey, my cousin owns a record store as well, and uh has a studio.
00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:58.480
So he has artists that we're gonna find the biggest artist from Las Vegas.
00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:04.159
Because if you think about it, Las Vegas doesn't have anybody that just kind of boom, we have a lot of artists, but anybody say, I'm originally from Las Vegas.
00:54:04.239 --> 00:54:06.159
So I was like, we called it the Cali Vegas Connect.
00:54:06.239 --> 00:54:10.320
And we're just bored, and one of my business partners was like, Hey, why don't you go in a booth?
00:54:10.400 --> 00:54:11.039
And I'm like, What?
00:54:11.280 --> 00:54:12.000
Like, just play around.
00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:14.239
We're kind of you know, toxicated, you know me.
00:54:14.320 --> 00:54:15.280
And I'm like, all right, cool.
00:54:15.360 --> 00:54:15.840
You know what I mean?
00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:16.800
Let me go mess around.
00:54:16.880 --> 00:54:20.719
So me and my brother used to take my father's songs and rewrite them and say our names.
00:54:20.800 --> 00:54:23.280
It was real easy for me because it's an air, you know what I mean?
00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:28.159
So he just did it, and my partner was like, Man, like, you got a good voice too.
00:54:28.239 --> 00:54:36.239
And from that point on at 18 years old, I was like, uh, didn't think about it, but hey, I can do the executive producer and artist role is like my father.
00:54:36.960 --> 00:54:37.199
I agree.
00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:38.239
Why not?
00:54:40.880 --> 00:54:44.960
First of all, can we just talk about how fly our We Have Range song is?
00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:48.000
I oh my gosh, I love it.
00:54:48.800 --> 00:54:59.920
So um, shout out to Ash for helping us uh put that together um and uh with our song and uh our little promo trailer.
00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:02.559
If you haven't seen it, go watch it.
00:55:02.800 --> 00:55:07.119
Um uh I love that we have our own music, it's been very important in my show.
00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:10.800
I'll actually give you your flowers when we were first getting going due to this.
00:55:10.880 --> 00:55:13.360
You were like, we need to trademark this.
00:55:13.519 --> 00:55:24.480
We need to, you know, be make sure we protect the brands that we're building, but also make sure everything that we do, we have ownership over it and that we control it.
00:55:24.559 --> 00:55:26.239
So I love that we have our own song.
00:55:26.400 --> 00:55:45.599
Um, and so having a guest on like um like little easy Eric Lil Easy E, uh, whose father helped found, you know, hip-hop and rap, really a lot of people I say he is one of the the founders and original influencers of the rap and hip-hop community.
00:55:45.840 --> 00:56:02.719
And so to have it, uh to have someone like him on our platform and really uh be a part and have that history and share with us not only um his legacy that he's leading, but the type of entrepreneurship that he's involved in and how he's been able to carry that forward.
00:56:03.039 --> 00:56:12.320
And so um, yeah, it would it was great to hear from him and um and really get to know him beyond the headlines and beyond the social media.
00:56:12.719 --> 00:56:16.800
He's a dope a super cool human.
00:56:17.039 --> 00:56:21.119
And I want to give credit to Dominique Hippolit.
00:56:21.519 --> 00:56:27.119
Um, she is our uh season one producer and she works with little E.
00:56:27.440 --> 00:56:32.719
And um, so she sourced him, and we had a great, great conversation with him.
00:56:32.960 --> 00:56:39.840
And I think for me, what resonated is you do not have to stay where you're from.
00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:44.639
Growth means moving from the spaces that no longer serve you.
00:56:44.960 --> 00:56:52.800
Um, if it's not allowing you to expand, elevate, and empower yourself, then you have to find new spaces that will do that for you.
00:56:52.880 --> 00:57:04.079
So I want to really just shout out uh to Eric for knowing that look, Compton is not a place where I can right now raise my kids because the schools aren't that great, but let me find a way.
00:57:04.159 --> 00:57:11.039
And he talks about the Eric Wright Foundation, and he talks about giving back to Compton to build it up.
00:57:11.199 --> 00:57:16.639
So when you leave a space, don't just leave it, go back and see how you can contribute with your success.
00:57:16.800 --> 00:57:17.760
And so he's doing that.
00:57:17.840 --> 00:57:19.599
And so I think two things can be true.
00:57:19.840 --> 00:57:29.119
You can say, this is not serving what I need right now, but I'm gonna go do this, but I'm also gonna feed and give back to the community who raised me.
00:57:29.280 --> 00:57:34.320
And so I really love that he talks about that and the Eric Rapp Foundation.
00:57:34.559 --> 00:57:39.519
I want to thank um uh Dominique for all her contributions to season one.
00:57:39.599 --> 00:57:41.119
She's a dynamic woman.
00:57:41.519 --> 00:57:49.760
Um, and honestly, we couldn't have been able to do a lot of this without her um because we have, like we said, our very busy day careers.
00:57:49.840 --> 00:58:02.559
But this is something that we're super passionate about, and it's not a side hustle, it is two executives, one vision, and one mission that is to really share and empower and teach and build the world.
00:58:02.639 --> 00:58:07.440
So and you forgot to add, and we're unboxed, and we're unboxed.
00:58:07.599 --> 00:58:14.239
We are listening, I'm wearing my big hoops that I don't wear in my daytime career, but I'm trying to slowly move them towards it.
00:58:14.480 --> 00:58:15.440
Yeah, being ours.
00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:22.320
I'll I'll just clarify one more thing since we're doing a recap on the on the season one was um little easy easy episode.
00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:28.159
Is on the on the episode I said for those who don't know, Compton is part of inner city Los Angeles.
00:58:28.239 --> 00:58:32.960
My husband wanted to be like, Why do you act like you don't know geography of your ass is from LA?
00:58:33.440 --> 00:58:34.559
Let me just clarify.
00:58:36.559 --> 00:58:41.679
I was just trying to clarify that Compton, apparently, my husband was like, Everybody knows where Compton is.
00:58:41.840 --> 00:58:46.239
I'm like, okay, I'm always trying to think of us having a global audience.
00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:48.159
So uh we globally.
00:58:48.559 --> 00:58:51.119
But I would say no, everybody doesn't know where Compton's is.
00:58:51.199 --> 00:58:53.039
I mean, you can ask people and they don't know.
00:58:53.119 --> 00:58:55.519
I think we can never assume people know.
00:58:56.000 --> 00:59:01.679
Yeah, so he just wanted me to clarify that Compton is not in inner, it is its own city.
00:59:01.840 --> 00:59:07.199
Um, it is geographically in proximity to Los Angeles, to inner city Los Angeles.
00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:08.400
So I'll just clarify.
00:59:08.480 --> 00:59:17.280
Uh, but growing up, listen, growing up in the hood, overcoming those circumstances, I have certainly roots um experience there in South LA.
00:59:17.360 --> 00:59:31.199
And I can just say to your point, Michelle, uh highlighting what you said, for you to be able to um move, move from that, recognize it's not necessarily a pace you want to live, but do things that impact, empower.
00:59:31.360 --> 00:59:38.000
Um, even us just having this platform and saying, we have range, I have a different background than you do.
00:59:38.159 --> 00:59:49.199
Um, but regardless of the circumstances, we're here to share that if you put some some effort, time, vision, and you really believe in yourself, you can do and accomplish anything you want to.
00:59:49.440 --> 00:59:55.519
And to the last point on that, your start does not uh does not determine your destination.
00:59:55.760 --> 00:59:56.559
Absolutely not.
00:59:56.960 --> 01:00:04.480
I also want people to know and hear that just because you may have$20 today doesn't mean that you can't have 200,000 tomorrow.
01:00:04.800 --> 01:00:05.599
That's exactly right.
01:00:06.880 --> 01:00:10.719
You can't sit on your ass and do nothing, but everything is possible.
01:00:10.800 --> 01:00:16.079
There's nothing no one has ever told me that I can't do, I've done it.
01:00:16.239 --> 01:00:19.119
Like I said, I want this and I've done it.
01:00:19.199 --> 01:00:23.119
So I love that saying, what you eat don't make me shit.
01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:26.800
Okay, we'll come back to that.
01:00:26.880 --> 01:00:28.000
I'm I'm gonna think about it.
01:00:29.039 --> 01:00:30.880
You just made me think about it.
01:00:31.679 --> 01:00:33.599
What you were just saying about the work.
01:00:33.679 --> 01:00:38.719
You you gotta you gotta get you like I wish I could just Michelle tell me about her workouts.
01:00:38.880 --> 01:00:51.280
I wish by listening to her getting up doing her run or her walk with her dog Bo or going to this uh studio and doing a fit hit or whatever the hell she be doing, I wish her telling me that took the pounds off me.
01:00:51.440 --> 01:00:53.039
But the shit don't work that way.
01:00:53.199 --> 01:00:58.960
No, you cannot, you have to put in the work to achieve you want the to achieve the things you want to say.
01:00:59.039 --> 01:01:01.199
So that's a that's a way, a better way to articulate it.
01:01:01.280 --> 01:01:07.199
But I like just because you read a leadership book, if you don't practice it, you're not a leader.
01:01:07.840 --> 01:01:08.400
You ain't gonna learn.
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You have to practice.
01:01:10.239 --> 01:01:14.000
All right, so our last video, um, and we had it was such a vast season.
01:01:14.079 --> 01:01:17.519
We have 12 episodes, I think it's 12 episodes in season one, right?
01:01:17.679 --> 01:01:19.280
At least, at least 12.
01:01:19.360 --> 01:01:21.039
I don't really 12.
01:01:21.280 --> 01:01:26.159
But this one, um Cloyston Sheila, is absolutely Ivory's favorite.
01:01:26.320 --> 01:01:30.960
But I'm gonna tell you something that I wish I had done during this conversation.
01:01:31.119 --> 01:01:32.480
All right, let's see it.
01:01:33.760 --> 01:01:40.480
And regardless of what people's faith or background is, I think it is incredibly important for folks to be on the same page.
01:01:41.599 --> 01:01:45.679
Whatever your spiritual alignment is, I think if you find that to be difficult in marriage.
01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:50.800
If you have, for example, someone wants to be an atheist and someone believes in God, how are you gonna live through life that way?
01:01:50.960 --> 01:01:52.800
You know, you know, if you're just not on the same page.
01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:54.480
Well, it talks about being equally yoked.
01:01:54.639 --> 01:01:54.800
Yeah.
01:01:55.360 --> 01:02:02.400
It it's not just about your spirituality, it's it's about the things that you have that make you who you are.
01:02:02.559 --> 01:02:06.960
What are your values, regardless of whether it's you know, somebody being an atheist or something else?
01:02:07.119 --> 01:02:08.559
It's still about the values that you have.
01:02:08.639 --> 01:02:12.159
Do they actually do they match with that other individual?
01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:15.760
And um, if that is not the case, it's gonna make it very difficult.
01:02:15.840 --> 01:02:17.039
I'm not saying it can't be done.
01:02:17.440 --> 01:02:21.119
I mean, we see couples that come in all the time that they have different things that they like.
01:02:21.199 --> 01:02:23.280
They may even have different values.
01:02:23.440 --> 01:02:24.880
Somehow they managed to make it work.
01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:28.320
Okay.
01:02:29.440 --> 01:02:42.639
Um I so I love the conversation because I believe that couples counseling, partners counsel, any kind of counseling that betters you is great.
01:02:42.719 --> 01:02:47.519
But you know what I wish I had said during that conversation and asked and challenged a little bit more.
01:02:47.679 --> 01:02:49.519
I think you might know where I'm going.
01:02:51.840 --> 01:02:57.840
Lovely Christian counseling team, and they are so Cloys and Sheila loved you.
01:02:58.159 --> 01:03:02.079
But I wish I had asked them how do you approach same-sex counseling?
01:03:02.639 --> 01:03:11.920
Because they're married same-sex couples um who might feel sitting outside of that conversation.
01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:21.920
Yeah, I think what I think, listen, that's why we say on our platform we don't get into religious debates or political debates, but we will.
01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:25.920
I talk about being a woman of faith, being a woman of God.
01:03:26.079 --> 01:03:27.199
Um, those are values.
01:03:27.599 --> 01:03:32.960
You also recognize same-sex couples, and you have friends who are so you don't ounce them.
01:03:33.119 --> 01:03:37.920
Um, and I don't know that religion ever talks about same-sex not being a thing.
01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:40.159
And in the Bible, nowhere does it say that, by the way.
01:03:40.960 --> 01:03:41.920
Absolutely, absolutely.
01:03:42.159 --> 01:03:46.960
And listen, my my own take, I am a P, I I love everyone.
01:03:47.119 --> 01:03:52.639
I really believe how I have grown up in faith is that listen, Jesus loved everybody.
01:03:52.880 --> 01:03:55.280
Um, and and who are we to judge?
01:03:55.599 --> 01:03:58.320
We we are not, and in fact, we're told not to judge.
01:03:58.480 --> 01:04:05.119
So I just move about life living in that way and living in that space and treating in that space.
01:04:05.199 --> 01:04:10.079
I do recall a comment Sheila May Maying say, well, we don't turn anyone away.
01:04:10.239 --> 01:04:20.079
And I I really I truly think that um they have first of all, in addition to being Christian-based counselors, um, they have a very large platform.
01:04:20.239 --> 01:04:31.280
So our show, uh uh, we highlight entrepreneurs um and what they're do, what they did from a business perspective, which is start a platform to uh bring all these groups together.
01:04:32.239 --> 01:04:38.079
So I think um, I think they do their it's purpose-driven work and uh they're really good people.
01:04:38.159 --> 01:04:52.559
And I I could totally understand why you might answer that question is because listen, I don't care who you're with or who you love, if you are in partnership, in relationship, you got some of the same problems.
01:04:53.039 --> 01:05:00.079
Somebody mad about somebody been on this text message and this social media, somebody uh been gone out too late.
01:05:00.239 --> 01:05:15.599
And absolutely relationships are relationships, don't matter same sex or not, it really doesn't, it doesn't matter if it's uh child, parent relationships are gonna have conflict.
01:05:15.760 --> 01:05:24.639
And if you ever think that you're gonna have a relationship and there's no conflict, you're lying to yourself, yeah, right now you're probably not doing relationship well.
01:05:24.960 --> 01:05:26.400
No, and that's one thing Cloy said.
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We said, what brings couples to you?
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Why are they like when they're having struggles?
01:05:30.079 --> 01:05:30.639
What do you see?
01:05:30.800 --> 01:05:49.360
And he says they don't know how to flight and they don't know how to have conflict, and um, yeah, they don't have and so if you can't work through conflict and you can't face it, you're gonna it's gonna ball up, it's gonna explode, and you're gonna break down and if without resources, but I'll say this, Michelle.
01:05:49.599 --> 01:05:59.760
I don't think the conversations if they if someone hears Christian based values and or biblical principles, things like that, you know, our show is about range, so you can take you can take.
01:06:00.159 --> 01:06:02.320
Take the parts of it that you're like, you know what?
01:06:02.480 --> 01:06:04.079
I don't do I don't agree with that.
01:06:04.239 --> 01:06:08.480
Because listen, I talk about my marriage now, but honey, I'm a two-time divorcee as well.
01:06:08.559 --> 01:06:10.800
So someone would be like, what does she know about marriage?
01:06:11.039 --> 01:06:11.920
She got divorced before.
01:06:12.079 --> 01:06:14.800
Well, then you sit that, you sit that conversation out.
01:06:14.960 --> 01:06:24.079
But I will say this, I don't think it excludes them from conversation because there are still so much learning and teaching in there that is applicable.
01:06:24.480 --> 01:06:27.280
I just think I should have, I should have asked the question.
01:06:27.599 --> 01:06:30.880
But I didn't want to feel like I was doing like a gotcha moment.
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You know what I mean?
01:06:31.840 --> 01:06:32.719
Yeah, I think it's tough.
01:06:33.360 --> 01:06:34.239
What was off limits?
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And if honestly, we don't do you don't come on and have a conversation with us, and there's we'll I take that back.
01:06:41.199 --> 01:06:44.639
There are if we ask people, hey, what do you not want to talk about?
01:06:44.880 --> 01:06:47.679
And so they share that with us, and we say, Okay.
01:06:48.320 --> 01:06:53.440
But honestly, no one who's come on has given us things that they didn't want to talk about.
01:06:53.519 --> 01:06:57.840
There were well, we had a couple clear clarifications, but for good reasons.
01:06:58.320 --> 01:06:58.960
Oh yeah.
01:06:59.280 --> 01:07:03.679
Yeah, some things that so some things are just we we can't go to the public.
01:07:04.320 --> 01:07:07.360
Did not want to talk about because some deep legal stuff.
01:07:07.440 --> 01:07:09.840
Um yeah, deep legal legal related.
01:07:09.920 --> 01:07:14.719
Yeah, yeah, some very public things in the news, and people can guess what those things are if you want.
01:07:14.960 --> 01:07:16.000
I don't really care.
01:07:16.320 --> 01:07:20.639
Um, but yes, but we do ask that question, and honestly, they did not say that.
01:07:20.800 --> 01:07:32.239
And I didn't want to feel like because you know what, we're in partnership with the people who come in and have conversations, and I'm not about this viral life, so for me, I never want to take people off guard in that way.
01:07:32.639 --> 01:07:38.480
But lesson learned from me, just do what you want, and they can choose to answer or not, yeah.
01:07:38.719 --> 01:07:41.599
Or or choice comes up again.
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Choice comes up, choice comes up.
01:07:44.559 --> 01:08:06.559
Michael, as we as we bring our reflection into flow focus um here, and as we're wrapping up, uh Kois and Sheila is is our last uh guest that we some of our last guests that we have on the season, um, is that I really just reflect on um they've been doing a lot of incredible work for a long time.
01:08:06.639 --> 01:08:13.119
And what we see on We Have Range and why we have our platform is you can do so many things.
01:08:13.360 --> 01:08:17.279
Um, and we uh, Michelle, you and I have discussed this the pie model.
01:08:17.600 --> 01:08:21.279
What matters most is it performance, image, or exposure?
01:08:21.439 --> 01:08:22.960
And there's a study out there.
01:08:23.039 --> 01:08:29.920
Um, if you look up the pie model, it was created by a gentleman who um studied this for 40 years in different various courses.
01:08:30.960 --> 01:08:31.760
Can you remember his name?
01:08:31.920 --> 01:08:32.720
I gotta pull a name.
01:08:32.800 --> 01:08:38.159
I would say I'll drop it in the comments or I'll make sure to I'm gonna try to pull that up real quick while you talk about it.
01:08:38.479 --> 01:08:42.399
Um uh but yeah, but it talks about performance, image, and exposure.
01:08:42.479 --> 01:08:44.399
And a lot of people say what matters most.
01:08:44.640 --> 01:08:48.079
Immediately people go, Oh, as long as I'm doing a good job and whatever I'm doing.
01:08:48.399 --> 01:08:57.039
And then other people are like, well, for whatever wherever space I'm in, as long as I have a good image, whether like people like me or how they see me, that matters most.
01:08:57.279 --> 01:09:14.079
And in fact, uh performance is rated at 10%, image is rated at 30%, and it was exposure that was rated at 60% as the most influential thing you can do in whatever space you're in that's gonna take you the furthest.
01:09:14.159 --> 01:09:20.800
Because you could be doing the most incredible things, but if no one knows about it, why does it matter?
01:09:20.960 --> 01:09:24.239
You know, so uh, Michelle, this is our pivot.
01:09:24.319 --> 01:09:26.720
We talk about pivots in this season.
01:09:26.800 --> 01:09:30.479
We have been doing incredible things, you and I both for over 20 years in career.
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We are we have incredible images in our own industry, and we're now bringing a platform where there are other people like us hidden behind the shadows, and we're telling those stories too.
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So, did you find the person who created the Harvey Coleman?
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And just to add to that exposure, sorry, what was his name?
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I didn't catch it.
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Harvey Coleman.
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Harvey Coleman, yeah, and just to bring it back into uh focus, like you said, uh, and he's done a lot of organizational behavior, he's an organizational behavior expert.
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Um, the exposure piece kind of goes back to that social media thing that I absolutely hate.
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Um, if people don't know what you're doing, then there's no way for them to talk about it.
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And I I also will say, just to add to what you said, and and thank you, Ivory, because that pie model is so true.
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I feel like throughout my entire career, um being able to have exposure, geographical exposure, living in New York, San Francisco, and now I lived in Oakland but worked in San Francisco, but now um living in Phoenix, the exposure to people has been probably one of the greatest elevations for me.
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Um, because I can probably dial up somebody in my Rolodex.
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And for you young people who don't know what a Rolodex is, it's the new contacts that's in your phone.
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But people used to have this real thing where they wrote down names.
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Um and for me, what I'm realizing is that exposure has been everything.
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And it's allowed me to create relationships with people that I probably would not have had before.
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And I'm just grateful for that.
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I'm grateful I wouldn't have met Ivory if I had not lived in the Bay Area.
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We met at a women's event.
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Um, and her also just being, first of all, she is naturally bold.
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She walked up to me and was like, uh, I want you to be my accountability partner.
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Excuse me.
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Oh, hello, hi.
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Um I appreciate that.
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I I appreciate her boldness, her authenticity.
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She's been like that since day one.
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And that is really the power of attraction.
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You're generally attracted to people in something that you really admire.
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And that's what I admire by Ivory.
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Her fire, like she's fiery, she's bold, she doesn't um, she she doesn't hold back and she she takes risks.
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And as I've gotten older, and I talk about this throughout the season, I have taken less risks.
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Like I'm a little bit in a safe pocket, but I was like, nope, we're gonna do this.
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And and sometimes, uh, but I appreciate thank you for pushing me.
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And everybody needs a partner that pushes them out of their comfort um zone.
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And the comfort is me not wanting necessarily take risks and see what it feels like.
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So I really appreciate you for that because it's been transforming it.
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And I would say the central theme for season one has been pivot.
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Every guest has talked about how they've pivoted throughout their life and how it has transformed them.
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So for me, I just say thank you for pushing me to take the risk and worry about that shit later.
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Because that's really like we're gonna do this, and we're we always say we're doing it scared, we're flying the plane, we're building the plane as we're flying it.
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I don't know how you really do that in real life, but that is what's happening.
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Um, if anybody wants to know how we're doing it, we're pivoting season two to doing virtual, and I gotta tell you, I feel a little bit more natural in this atmosphere.
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Although I love the energy of being in studio, I really do.
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And we have a couple guests that will you'll still be doing that.
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We're filming in a few weeks in a new studio who's open with right now.
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Oh my god, what an exciting guest! Yes, one of the word applause needs because big opening with workflow, um, and we will be using that studio in LA.
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We will still be using um studio in Vegas and City.
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So we're just kind of we're expanding.
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So we're we're pivoting and expanding at the same time.
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Yep.
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So me last words.
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Uh no, Michelle, you I give you your flowers.
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Um, thank you for acknowledging my risk taking, but also you're the one that reminds me I need a I need a parachute if we're gonna jump off a plane.
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Um, so so we don't die.
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So um, so I think it's the balance, and you uh inspire me incredibly.
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You're so professional, you're so smart.
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Um, you being a certified coach, I'm I'm definitely being coached, y'all.
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You can't tell me I used to say you can't tell me nothing, but now my partner here tells me a lot of things with her uh certified coaching uh experience.
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Uh, but I just really appreciate you and um for going on this journey with me and for us having a space where we hope we can do like CJ said and impact a million lives.
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You know, impact a million.
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I I so appreciate that.
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And listen, we have grown.
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Like when we first started as We Have Range, we did not have a following.
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And I we look at the analytics.
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I'm gonna tell you though, I don't really care that much about the analytics.
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I want to know that we have quality followers who's gonna come on this ride and be consistent with us through the ups and downs, the inconsistency, but not inconsistency, like if we mess up on something, don't you like hold our feet to the fire, we'll correct ourselves.
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It's okay, we're not perfect.
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So you're gonna be talking to yourself with the right, and and we're gonna keep going, and we are so encouraged.
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So even if we don't have, you know, 15,000 today, we will get there.
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And yeah, I love that it will be a story to be told about where we started and where we will be.
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Um, nothing stops us.
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I mean, I'm determined, but I got a partner that's way more informed than me, and it catches me every day.
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So I want to thank everybody who's been on season one and riding with us.
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It has been fun.
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It's we've learned so much about ourselves.
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Ivory talked about that the other day when we had to make some changes to our team.
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And it's like, you know, we learned a lot about it's informing our professional lives, right?
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It's it's informing how we move through um our daytime professional life and the lessons that we've learned.
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So while it may seem not aligned, it is so aligned to who we are day to day.
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Um, so I want to say thank you for being on the ride with We Have Range.
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Follow, like, and share on all of your streaming platforms.
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Go follow our YouTube and share it with somebody.
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If something that resonates, just share it.
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Um because I always give people how can I support you?
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Share our shit.
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Stop like share our shit, comment talk about it.
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We need watch time, watch our episodes.
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Thank you.
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And so with that, it's a wrap.
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Until next time.
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Until the next time.
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Great job.
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This is so fun.
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So fun.
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All right.
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Well, thank you, Zeus, for being with me.
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Yeah, you don't have to be a little bit.