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Welcome to Veronica Live. And I am here with a
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special guest. Is back joining Veronica Live because here in
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Florida we are fighting against Amendment three and I am
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very pleased to welcome back doctor Jessica Spencer. She's the
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director of advocacy for Vote No on three. Welcome back, doctor.
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Well, glad you.
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Jessica is fantastic, so thank you so much for having
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me again.
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Yes, well, I know we're all running hard. Early voting
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is open in Freedom, Florida. I voted on the first day.
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I've been rallying people like crazy, and I know you're still.
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In the fight. I was just before you came on today.
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You're in the Tallahassee Democrat. Uh there's an article that
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just broke. Let me see what is it called here?
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I just read the whole thing. What could Florida marijuana
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market look like if Amendment three is approved? So I'm like,
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is this foreshadowing? So anyways, we got to talk about
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it all. So well, welcome back, Thank you, thank you
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so much.
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So how is it looking.
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I had CFO Patronis on last week on Veronica Ive
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and Chairman Evan Power, and they were both fighting hard.
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With a no on Amendment three. So how's it looking.
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It is looking very good.
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The more people that get educated and the more people
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realize what this amendment is actually about. And again I
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urged everyone.
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To read it before they go to the ballot box.
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I mean I've had a couple of situations, actually many
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where people were thinking it was one thing.
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We're urged to read it, read it and realized, oh wait,
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that's not what I thought it was. So we are looking.
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Good as soon as people start seeing it and reading
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it and understanding that this is again about corporate greed.
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This is about big business coming in here. This is
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not about personal freedom and the issues the many issues
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that we will have as a state if this was
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to pass, which it won't, but the many issues that
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we would have and the lack of control that we
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would have.
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People are a no vote.
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Well, I was looking at your x account before you
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came on, and it was quite quite impressive because and
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Culture came out No.
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Of course, Casey DeSantis.
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Is on there with a little video she said no,
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our search in general. I can't say his last name ever,
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lat Po he came out and said no, of course,
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our governor is a no.
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And then when I was reading this article.
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You know, all the money that's been spent by these
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marijuana companies trying to get a foothold in our state,
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just it blows my mind.
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So where are we at right now with how much
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have they spent?
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And let me tell you, Jessica, I've gotten like five
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million vote Yes postcards in the mail. And then this
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weekend when I was driving around, there's probably six dispensaries
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here in my county and they all had the vote
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Yes sign.
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Out front, you know, right right, So what.
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Kind of money are we looking at that these people
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have plugged into this fight trying to win us over.
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Last I saw and it certainly could be higher. It
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seems to just keep getting higher and higher. Was over
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one hundred and two million dollars. So it is the
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most expensive legalization effort in the nation and in the
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history of the legalization movement in the nation, which is
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just it's mind boggling to think the amount of money
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that they.
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Have put in.
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But again, you know, I also and I don't think
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we talked about this last time, but I would urge
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your listeners to also read the Florida Trend article that
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came out in July and just listen to them braggadociously
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talk about how much money this is going to make them,
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and how wonderful this is for them, and how historic
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this would be for them for this to pass in Florida.
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So this isn't about us.
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This is about them as an industry, the mega marijuana corporations,
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and we need to vote it down.
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Well, that Tallahassee Democrat article that just came out that
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you're quoted, and it had some statistics in there that
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I didn't know. I guess there's six hundred stores throughout
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the state and so people are legally getting it, said,
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I guess eight hundred eighty thousand Floridians can already get
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their medical marijuana if they want. And then I read
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it's seven dollars for a joint. So I learned way
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too much Jessica in this article.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, And you know the sad part about it too,
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is you know, we see these medical marijuana dispensaries, and
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in fact.
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They're one of the CEOs.
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Of one of them was actually traveling around the state
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this last week boasting about how, well, this is what
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our packaging looks like, and it's very non descript and
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it's we're not going to see the marketing that we
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see in other states that have recreational marijuana. And I'm like, well,
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wait a minute. You're showing us the packaging and the
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things and what you have to follow for your medical marijuana,
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but you're not telling us or showing us what your
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recreational marijuana looks like in other states. So, you know,
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that article that I saw was kind of disturbing in
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the sense that you know, they're running around seeing how
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wonderful and great they are, and that they don't market
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to children, they don't use cartoons, et cetera. Yet I
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also just saw on their Instagram accounts, you know this
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dressed up marijuana plant.
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Well, who dresses up in characters?
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Right?
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Who is that for?
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That's for young people, that's for children, that.
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Is to get that that character in their.
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Brains, right, And it's literally a marijuana leaf. And then
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they do use bright coloring and packaging in other states.
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So it's really not fair for them to be running
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around showing, you know, how they market their quote medical marijuana,
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but there's no discussion on how they're going to market
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their recreational marijuana. And the fact of the matter is
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the Constitutional Amendment doesn't even provide language for how we
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as a state could regulate how they market their recreational marijuana.
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There's not one word.
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In here that talks about any kind of restrictions we
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can place on them, as we have.
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Seen with the medical marijuana.
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So it's dis ingenuous for them to run around saying,
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how you know, simple and how plain their packaging is,
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and they don't market to kids when that's for medical marijuana.
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You're not being honest.
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About how you market for recreational marijuana in other states.
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And how you have bogos and.
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Sales and you target the college age children, et cetera,
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and kids and young adults. So it's very frustrating from
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that perspective on what we will see when you talk
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about how many.
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Are you still there, Jessica, all right, hold on one second, yes, okay, yeah, yeah,
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it clicked out for a minute because I'm so sorry
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now you know.
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And I don't know where you've lost me.
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But it is frustrating again when we're talking about and
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you're mentioning how many dispensaries you have in your county.
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When we're listening and reading in the Florida Trend article
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about how this marijuana market would triple what we already
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see and have here in Florida, and there's no way
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for us to regulate their signage they're packaging the TC content,
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et cetera.
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Well, things that come to mind, and one of them
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that was mentioned in the Tallahassee Democrat article that came
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out just about an hour ago was that there's no
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regulation on public smoking.
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And so I was thinking.
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I was like, oh my gosh, I'm at Disney World
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and somebody decides to light a joint, like like, I
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don't think.
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People have thought this through.
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Or you're at the beach and somebody's smoking a joint,
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you know, because again I travel a lot. I've been
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in all kinds of major cities where it's legal, and
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it's horrific to smell this. So talk about how they're
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not you know, it's just a free for all. They're
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just trying to open that door to sell it, and
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nobody's thought about some of these long term issues, and
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especially if you're driving, you know, because people I will say,
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I've seen a few ads on billboards saying don't you
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know smoke and drive marijuana when you're taking marijuana. But
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I think there's a lot of issues people haven't thought through.
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Is that right, Jessica, It's absolutely true.
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Now, I will say that the language does not allow
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you to drive a car, a boat, or fly an
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airplane while high or while using the substance. So it
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was it was very nice of them to add that
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in there, But the problem with that is that means
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everything else that you do as an individual would be
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excluded from liability. And then as far as the public
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smoking and where you can smoke, I mean, all the
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author needed to do was cross out the word medical
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on page three, number six under limitations, and then we
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would be able to regulate where individuals were actually able
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to smoke this product and smoke marijuana. But because they didn't,
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that means that if local municipalities or the state tries
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to come in and regulate where or ban, for lack
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of a better word, public smoking of recreational marijuana, they
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won't be able to do it and it'll be shot
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down because the only laws and the only language that
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our legislature or local municipalities could write it has to
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be consistent with the language of the amendment. And if
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you tried to ban recreational marijuana smoking, we would not
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be able to effectively do so, so your amusement parks.
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Your hotels.
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I was even talking to someone that works at a
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local university trying to explain you wouldn't be able to
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ban the smoking at the university, and the question was, well,
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what if we.
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Have no smoking size.
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It was like, that's fine, but you're now.
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Violating someone's constitutional right to smoke their marijuana in your
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college classroom, in your church, in.
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Your amusement parks, et cetera.
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And especially for our tourism industry here, not only with
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the news and parks, but for our hotels.
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That's going to be a major problem for our state.
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And so again we have to vote.
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Know when thinking about what's best for Floridians.
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Well, this weekend, you know, I had Fox News on
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because I was watching all these crazy debates, and they
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played multiple times. It was a commercial and I'm sure
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you've seen it saying how many deaths by allig you know,
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getting eaten by an alligator in Florida?
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How many buy an ant?
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And then it had like people and there were so
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so all of these ants, alligators people have died. When
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it came to people smoking marijuana, it was zero, Jessica.
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That is that I have not seen that, and I'm
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glad I haven't because that's absolutely outrageous.
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They said zero, It said zero.
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That's even my husband, because like, what is this.
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That's wild.
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That means they're not even bothering to be honest and
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take into account the drug to driving crashes.
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That we have in our state.
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And then here's the other piece, and they try to
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equate that to no one's overdose.
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And died on marijuana.
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Well, that's not entirely true, number one, And then number two,
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You don't have to pass away from overdosing on something.
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And the amount of people that we already see in
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our states with the medical marijuana programming and the HEMP
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here that are showing up in emergency rooms for over
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intoxication and psychotic features or psychotic breaks from their use
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of cannabis and marijuana products has already gone up.
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So that is just simply not true.
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You do not have to die to have overdosed and
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have experienced a negative medical reaction to marijuana.
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Now that's not to say everybody does, but.
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There is certainly a large number of individuals that do so,
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So it's I mean, it's a cute idea that they're
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trying to go with, but it's just simply not true
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at all.
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Well, I'm sad you missed the commercial because it's literally awful,
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but I wanted.
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To ask you.
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This is your world, Your background is you've dealt with
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people on drugs, So tell us what are some of
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the side effects and how marijuana for me? I know
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it's a gateway drug to other things, but especially if.
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People are smoking it and they're young.
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And their brains are still developing, you know, talk about
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how awful marijuana is. That if people today think it's okay, Jessica,
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that it's nothing, it's like smoking a cigarette, they do.
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And I wonder if most times, especially in you know,
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my age bracket, those are individuals that maybe have used
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or no individuals that smoked marijuana when they were at
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high school or college or whatever. And so we need
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to understand and recognize that this is not the marijuaa
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of the sixties and seventies. This is high potent PhD products.
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You can look at some of these marijuana companies.
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Their websites and you can see that they are selling
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upwards of thirty five percent THCHC for the raw herbal
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flour that you would smoke, and then their oils and
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their gummies and their vaping products or anywhere from seventy
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to ninety five percent THCHC. So we're talking about an
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extreme amount of PhD, which is the intoxicating substance in marijuana.
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And we also need to understand that marijuana is a.
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Fat valuable drug.
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So when we're talking about young people and we're talking
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about long term effects and consequences, we need to remember
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that our brain is the fattiest part on our body.
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This is a fat valuable.
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Drug, and so the THC of this highly potent PhD products,
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they're sitting in our brains for quite some time, and
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so the damage that's being done is often irreversible. There
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are a multitude of cases out there in our state
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as well where we are seeing individuals that have again
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psychotic features, they are having mental health issues because of
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these products. And there also is this phenomenon we talked
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about it over a decade ago that we were starting
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to see more and more in our emergency rooms, which
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is the cannabinoid hyper emesis syndrome, and that's you know,
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severe abdominal issues that most marijuana users will not recognize
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as related to their marijuana use. But this is a
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significant problem that we're seeing again with these highly potent
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marijuana products. You know, it's we're not supposed to ingest anything, right,
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that's not healthy for us marijuana. You can't make it
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safe and you can't make it healthy. It is not
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healthy for us to either smoke something that is this
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highly intoxicating and highly potent products, and then also the
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edibles and the vaping that we're inhaling as well.
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So I'm very intrigued by this because you told me
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that you had debated Senator Joe Gruders that had come
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out Florida, our Florida senator for.
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In support of this amendment.
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And then, of course, sadly, and I'm a Trump or
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Trump supporting this amendment, I just don't think he's thought
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it through. But so tell me about debating senator or
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Senator Gruder's. I mean, what points did he bring to
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the table that could legitimize this?
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You know?
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Except I know dot dot dot people are always talking
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about incarceration, and and you know, we don't want to
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send people to jail for it. You know, I don't either,
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And we've talked before let's find the hell out of them.
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But tell me about this debate and sparring with Senator Gruter,
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who I normally love. So this is the first issue
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that I don't love him on.
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Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely me as well.
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I mean, he's a very very nice man. He is
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just ill informed on this issue.
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Or you know, again, we can also go to following
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the money right, but his talking point predominantly is how
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the legislature will be able to regulate the public smoking.
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That's his main talking point is regulating public smoking. But
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what he fails to have us look at, and this
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is why again I urge everyone to read the amendment
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is go back to under the limitations C six and
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understand that all the author needed to do was cross
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out the word medical and he would effectively be able
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to have the bill that he's been talking about, which
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would ban public smoking on our beaches and et cetera,
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et cetera. The problem with this too is, you know
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he's talked about and this is the main talking point
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that I'm going to handle this as a legislature. You know,
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don't worry about it.
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The legislature can do this sort of an opposition of
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what I'm saying, but.
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The fact of the matter is is again they have
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to write bills that are consistent with the language of
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the amendment. That would not be consistent number one. Number two,
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we have had another senator, Senator Martin, come out and
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say no, sorry, Senator Gruers, you can't do that.
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He is a lawyer, by the way. And we also
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have had.
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The governor come out and say, no, you can't do.
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That, which he's also a lawyer.
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He's explaining and showing all of us that they can't
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do that. So they both know, as along with many
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other attorneys, that the implementing language or any subsequent bills
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to handle again mister Gruter's talking point about public smoking,
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they wouldn't be able to effectively ban public smoking because again,
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that one word, and that's all the.
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Author needed to do.
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And I mean with with President Trump, I get it,
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it's it's frustrating. But for me, I truly don't believe
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that we as Floridians, or we as constituents really as
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any state, look to our elected officials to make our
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decisions on constitutional amendments. I think we have you know,
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the parties are split. This is really truly not a
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partisan issue. Because this is about our state as a whole.
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It's not about one particular party.
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And although you know.
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There's lots of people that I respect and appreciate their
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opinions on I do believe they are wrong on this.
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I know that they're wrong on this, and it's as
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simple as the black and white language of the amendment.
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Well, in the Tally Democrat story, one of their go
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to lines is that if we vote yes on three,
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that it will reduce crime, the black market.
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And teen use.
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I don't believe any of this because I think more
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people are going to be smoking it.
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Absolutely, I totally agree with you.
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And all we have to do is look at states
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other states that have recreational marijuanas to see that the
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black market doesn't disappear. So this idea and this thought
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process of oh, don't worry if we legalize that the
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black market will go away is just simply a fallacy.
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It's a fantasy land, and it is something that they
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want the voters to believe. And again fear mongering, as
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if we have this huge problem here, all you're going.
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To do is make it worse.
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The black market doesn't disappear states that have recreational marijuana.
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In fact, they're emboldened. They have a larger customer base
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because people are going to be looking for cheaper illegal options. Ultimately,
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at the end of the day, but they're looking for
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cheaper alternatives. There's going to be more people that are
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seeking the products because you're again increasing access generally and overall,
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people are going to want to use and so it
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doesn't go away.
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The black market doesn't go away.
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And when we are talking about.
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Our children, which I really wanted to pass forward to,
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that's where a major concern is.
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When you increase access.
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And availability, you increase use. And again with our cartoon
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marijuana stuffed guy that's running around and the bright colors,
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et cetera, and what they have used in other states
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in the recreational market, you are marketing and targeting children.
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So sending the message that another intoxicating substance should be
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legal and another intoxicating substance for our kids to have
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access to is not a smart plan for this state.
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And we need to vote it down on November fifth.
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So one of the one of the prob ideas is
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that you know, it'll put money into the legislature and
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they'll they'll they'll devote it to the sheriff and education.
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And I don't believe any of this.
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So how do you see it, Jessica.
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Well, we don't know where it's going to go.
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I mean, I have seen an ad that says it's
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going to go to schools in law enforcement. But nowhere
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in the language in the amendment did they delineate out
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where they wanted tax revenue.
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To go to.
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You know, and that's all well and good if they
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want to also reference the fiscal impact statement about you know,
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how much money taxes would be raised or earned here
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in the state. We also need to look to the
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other states and find out what the social cost costs
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are for recreational marijuana, and Colorado is a great example
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of it. For every dollar in tax revenue, another four
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dollars and fifty cents goes out in social costs, so
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the tax revenue so it's almost a non issue for me,
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because one, we have no idea what the legislature will
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do with it. We have no idea what our state
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government would decide is the best place to put it.
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Number one.
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Number two, in theory, we're operating at a deficit because
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there are social costs associated with the legalization of marijuana,
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that we need to take into account and understand that
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it will cost us more money for legalized marijuana here
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in the state than it would to not have it.
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Well, which I this fact. I didn't realize this, but
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the article says that legal purchase of marijuana, if you're
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a medical card holder, that product isn't taxed.
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So how are they making the money?
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I guess will it be these corporations then are going
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to pay the money to be here if it's legalized.
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I would imagine that the legislature, and this is a
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little bit out of my scope of understanding, but the
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legislature would then come in and decide how much it
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would be taxed, et cetera, and then decide where that
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tax revenue would go.
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Okay, and what are we missing?
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We're talking to doctor Jessica Spencer who's fighting no on
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an amendment three.
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What if we missed Jessica.
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I think the one thing that we didn't talk about
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last time that is perhaps most shocking of all of this,
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as if this isn't enough already, is the civil and
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criminal immunity that the industry has.
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Written in for themselves. So if the.
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Listeners again, please read the Constitutional Amendment full text. You
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do not have to believe anything that I'm saying or
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they're saying. Go and read the language. You do not
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need to be a lawyer or a legislator or you know,
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have a legal degree to understand the language and the amendment.
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So please read the language.
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And most shocking.
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That we didn't talk about previously is on page one.
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They have written in civil and criminal immunity for anything
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that they do. It is an unprecedented level of immunity
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and it runs through their entire process. It goes all
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the way from acquiring to selling and distributing marijuana products
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and marijuana accessories, which accessories would be your product liability.
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If there is something wrong with the vapor pen or
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the mechanism in which you use their products, you cannot
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sue them for it. And I promise you that if
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there is an accident, if there is Heaven forbid a death,
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or if there is a poisoning, that their lawyers are
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going to use that language in Section A five. They
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are going to use that language as a shield from
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any lawsuit.
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They have written any protection for themselves.
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For anything that they do, and it's it's unbelievable, most shocking,
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and honestly the grossest part of all of this.
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Well, I think we've covered it all where I know
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your sprint to the finish line. We've got to rally
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everybody to early vote. And this is not a good
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thing for Florida. You know, we're freedom Florida, but this
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is this is bad for for our children.
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And we already have all the medical dispensaries.
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So if somebody wants it, you know, they can, they
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can definitely get it if they're if they're they medically
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need it.
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So that's the thing. It's already around Jessica, you know.
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Yeah, and this amendment, if you if you do have
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medical marijuana or you have a loved one that utilizes that,
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that is under a constitutional amendment. And this voting no
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on recreational marijuana does not affect that we would still
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have medical marijuana here in the state of Florida. That
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was and is a constitutional amendment and a constitutional right
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for medical marijuana.
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Well, I am right there. I voted no. I've rallied everybody.
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I know, thank you, and I know I know you're
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working hard to get the message out, so I follow
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I follow you all on.
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X and it's Voe. Let me see, I'm pulling it
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up here. Vote no.
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Oh my goodness, I want to get it right. Vote
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no on three. And thanks doctor Jessica. Spencer fighting the
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fight and I know we're going to come back on
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top with this, so we'll talk again for sure.
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Thanks for joining we are today and good luck.
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Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it
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all right.
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Welcome to Veronica Live. And I am here with a
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special guest. Is back joining Veronica Live because here in
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Florida we are fighting against Amendment three and I am
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very pleased to welcome back doctor Jessica Spencer. She's the
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director of advocacy for Vote No on three. Welcome back, doctor.
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Well, glad you.
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Jessica is fantastic, so thank you so much for having
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me again.
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Yes, well, I know we're all running hard. Early voting
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is open in Freedom, Florida. I voted on the first day.
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I've been rallying people like crazy, and I know you're still.
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In the fight. I was just before you came on today.
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You're in the Tallahassee Democrat. Uh there's an article that
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just broke. Let me see what is it called here?
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I just read the whole thing. What could Florida marijuana
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market look like if Amendment three is approved? So I'm like,
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is this foreshadowing? So anyways, we got to talk about
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it all. So well, welcome back, Thank you, thank you
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so much.
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So how is it looking.
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I had CFO Patronis on last week on Veronica Ive
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and Chairman Evan Power, and they were both fighting hard.
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With a no on Amendment three. So how's it looking.
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It is looking very good.
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The more people that get educated and the more people
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realize what this amendment is actually about. And again I
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urged everyone.
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To read it before they go to the ballot box.
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I mean I've had a couple of situations, actually many
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where people were thinking it was one thing.
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We're urged to read it, read it and realized, oh wait,
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that's not what I thought it was. So we are looking.
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Good as soon as people start seeing it and reading
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it and understanding that this is again about corporate greed.
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This is about big business coming in here. This is
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not about personal freedom and the issues the many issues
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that we will have as a state if this was
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to pass, which it won't, but the many issues that
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we would have and the lack of control that we
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would have.
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People are a no vote.
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Well, I was looking at your x account before you
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came on, and it was quite quite impressive because and
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Culture came out No.
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Of course, Casey DeSantis.
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Is on there with a little video she said no,
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our search in general. I can't say his last name ever,
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lat Po he came out and said no, of course,
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our governor is a no.
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And then when I was reading this article.
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You know, all the money that's been spent by these
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marijuana companies trying to get a foothold in our state,
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just it blows my mind.
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So where are we at right now with how much
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have they spent?
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And let me tell you, Jessica, I've gotten like five
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million vote Yes postcards in the mail. And then this
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weekend when I was driving around, there's probably six dispensaries
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here in my county and they all had the vote
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Yes sign.
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Out front, you know, right right, So what.
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Kind of money are we looking at that these people
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have plugged into this fight trying to win us over.
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Last I saw and it certainly could be higher. It
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seems to just keep getting higher and higher. Was over
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one hundred and two million dollars. So it is the
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most expensive legalization effort in the nation and in the
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history of the legalization movement in the nation, which is
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just it's mind boggling to think the amount of money
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that they.
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Have put in.
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But again, you know, I also and I don't think
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we talked about this last time, but I would urge
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your listeners to also read the Florida Trend article that
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came out in July and just listen to them braggadociously
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talk about how much money this is going to make them,
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and how wonderful this is for them, and how historic
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this would be for them for this to pass in Florida.
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So this isn't about us.
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This is about them as an industry, the mega marijuana corporations,
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and we need to vote it down.
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Well, that Tallahassee Democrat article that just came out that
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you're quoted, and it had some statistics in there that
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I didn't know. I guess there's six hundred stores throughout
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the state and so people are legally getting it, said,
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I guess eight hundred eighty thousand Floridians can already get
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their medical marijuana if they want. And then I read
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it's seven dollars for a joint. So I learned way
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too much Jessica in this article.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, And you know the sad part about it too,
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is you know, we see these medical marijuana dispensaries, and
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in fact.
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They're one of the CEOs.
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Of one of them was actually traveling around the state
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this last week boasting about how, well, this is what
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our packaging looks like, and it's very non descript and
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it's we're not going to see the marketing that we
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see in other states that have recreational marijuana. And I'm like, well,
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wait a minute. You're showing us the packaging and the
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things and what you have to follow for your medical marijuana,
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but you're not telling us or showing us what your
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recreational marijuana looks like in other states. So, you know,
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that article that I saw was kind of disturbing in
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the sense that you know, they're running around seeing how
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wonderful and great they are, and that they don't market
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to children, they don't use cartoons, et cetera. Yet I
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also just saw on their Instagram accounts, you know this
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dressed up marijuana plant.
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Well, who dresses up in characters?
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Right?
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Who is that for?
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That's for young people, that's for children, that.
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Is to get that that character in their.
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Brains, right, And it's literally a marijuana leaf. And then
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they do use bright coloring and packaging in other states.
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So it's really not fair for them to be running
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around showing, you know, how they market their quote medical marijuana,
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but there's no discussion on how they're going to market
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their recreational marijuana. And the fact of the matter is
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the Constitutional Amendment doesn't even provide language for how we
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as a state could regulate how they market their recreational marijuana.
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There's not one word.
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In here that talks about any kind of restrictions we
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can place on them, as we have.
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Seen with the medical marijuana.
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So it's dis ingenuous for them to run around saying,
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how you know, simple and how plain their packaging is,
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and they don't market to kids when that's for medical marijuana.
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You're not being honest.
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About how you market for recreational marijuana in other states.
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And how you have bogos and.
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Sales and you target the college age children, et cetera,
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and kids and young adults. So it's very frustrating from
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that perspective on what we will see when you talk
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about how many.
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Are you still there, Jessica, all right, hold on one second, yes, okay, yeah, yeah,
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it clicked out for a minute because I'm so sorry
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now you know.
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And I don't know where you've lost me.
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But it is frustrating again when we're talking about and
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you're mentioning how many dispensaries you have in your county.
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When we're listening and reading in the Florida Trend article
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about how this marijuana market would triple what we already
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see and have here in Florida, and there's no way
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for us to regulate their signage they're packaging the TC content,
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et cetera.
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Well, things that come to mind, and one of them
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that was mentioned in the Tallahassee Democrat article that came
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out just about an hour ago was that there's no
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regulation on public smoking.
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And so I was thinking.
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I was like, oh my gosh, I'm at Disney World
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and somebody decides to light a joint, like like, I
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don't think.
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People have thought this through.
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Or you're at the beach and somebody's smoking a joint,
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you know, because again I travel a lot. I've been
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in all kinds of major cities where it's legal, and
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it's horrific to smell this. So talk about how they're
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not you know, it's just a free for all. They're
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just trying to open that door to sell it, and
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nobody's thought about some of these long term issues, and
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especially if you're driving, you know, because people I will say,
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I've seen a few ads on billboards saying don't you
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know smoke and drive marijuana when you're taking marijuana. But
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I think there's a lot of issues people haven't thought through.
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Is that right, Jessica, It's absolutely true.
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Now, I will say that the language does not allow
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you to drive a car, a boat, or fly an
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airplane while high or while using the substance. So it
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was it was very nice of them to add that
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in there, But the problem with that is that means
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everything else that you do as an individual would be
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excluded from liability. And then as far as the public
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smoking and where you can smoke, I mean, all the
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author needed to do was cross out the word medical
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on page three, number six under limitations, and then we
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would be able to regulate where individuals were actually able
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to smoke this product and smoke marijuana. But because they didn't,
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that means that if local municipalities or the state tries
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to come in and regulate where or ban, for lack
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of a better word, public smoking of recreational marijuana, they
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won't be able to do it and it'll be shot
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down because the only laws and the only language that
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our legislature or local municipalities could write it has to
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be consistent with the language of the amendment. And if
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you tried to ban recreational marijuana smoking, we would not
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be able to effectively do so, so your amusement parks.
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Your hotels.
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I was even talking to someone that works at a
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local university trying to explain you wouldn't be able to
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ban the smoking at the university, and the question was, well,
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what if we.
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Have no smoking size.
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It was like, that's fine, but you're now.
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Violating someone's constitutional right to smoke their marijuana in your
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college classroom, in your church, in.
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Your amusement parks, et cetera.
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And especially for our tourism industry here, not only with
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the news and parks, but for our hotels.
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That's going to be a major problem for our state.
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And so again we have to vote.
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Know when thinking about what's best for Floridians.
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Well, this weekend, you know, I had Fox News on
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because I was watching all these crazy debates, and they
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played multiple times. It was a commercial and I'm sure
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you've seen it saying how many deaths by allig you know,
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getting eaten by an alligator in Florida?
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How many buy an ant?
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And then it had like people and there were so
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so all of these ants, alligators people have died. When
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it came to people smoking marijuana, it was zero, Jessica.
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That is that I have not seen that, and I'm
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glad I haven't because that's absolutely outrageous.
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They said zero, It said zero.
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That's even my husband, because like, what is this.
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That's wild.
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That means they're not even bothering to be honest and
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take into account the drug to driving crashes.
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That we have in our state.
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And then here's the other piece, and they try to
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equate that to no one's overdose.
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And died on marijuana.
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Well, that's not entirely true, number one, And then number two,
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You don't have to pass away from overdosing on something.
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And the amount of people that we already see in
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our states with the medical marijuana programming and the HEMP
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here that are showing up in emergency rooms for over
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intoxication and psychotic features or psychotic breaks from their use
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of cannabis and marijuana products has already gone up.
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So that is just simply not true.
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You do not have to die to have overdosed and
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have experienced a negative medical reaction to marijuana.
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There is certainly a large number of individuals that do so,
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So it's I mean, it's a cute idea that they're
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trying to go with, but it's just simply not true
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at all.
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Well, I'm sad you missed the commercial because it's literally awful,
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but I wanted.
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To ask you.
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This is your world, Your background is you've dealt with
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people on drugs, So tell us what are some of
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the side effects and how marijuana for me? I know
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it's a gateway drug to other things, but especially if.
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People are smoking it and they're young.
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And their brains are still developing, you know, talk about
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how awful marijuana is. That if people today think it's okay, Jessica,
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that it's nothing, it's like smoking a cigarette, they do.
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my age bracket, those are individuals that maybe have used
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or no individuals that smoked marijuana when they were at
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high school or college or whatever. And so we need
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to understand and recognize that this is not the marijuaa
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of the sixties and seventies. This is high potent PhD products.
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You can look at some of these marijuana companies.
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Their websites and you can see that they are selling
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upwards of thirty five percent THCHC for the raw herbal
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flour that you would smoke, and then their oils and
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their gummies and their vaping products or anywhere from seventy
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to ninety five percent THCHC. So we're talking about an
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extreme amount of PhD, which is the intoxicating substance in marijuana.
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And we also need to understand that marijuana is a.
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Fat valuable drug.
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So when we're talking about young people and we're talking
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about long term effects and consequences, we need to remember
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that our brain is the fattiest part on our body.
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This is a fat valuable.
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Drug, and so the THC of this highly potent PhD products,
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they're sitting in our brains for quite some time, and
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so the damage that's being done is often irreversible. There
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are a multitude of cases out there in our state
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as well where we are seeing individuals that have again
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psychotic features, they are having mental health issues because of
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these products. And there also is this phenomenon we talked
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about it over a decade ago that we were starting
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to see more and more in our emergency rooms, which
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is the cannabinoid hyper emesis syndrome, and that's you know,
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severe abdominal issues that most marijuana users will not recognize
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as related to their marijuana use. But this is a
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significant problem that we're seeing again with these highly potent
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marijuana products. You know, it's we're not supposed to ingest anything, right,
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that's not healthy for us marijuana. You can't make it
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safe and you can't make it healthy. It is not
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healthy for us to either smoke something that is this
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highly intoxicating and highly potent products, and then also the
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edibles and the vaping that we're inhaling as well.
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So I'm very intrigued by this because you told me
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that you had debated Senator Joe Gruders that had come
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out Florida, our Florida senator for.
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In support of this amendment.
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And then, of course, sadly, and I'm a Trump or
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Trump supporting this amendment, I just don't think he's thought
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it through. But so tell me about debating senator or
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Senator Gruder's. I mean, what points did he bring to
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the table that could legitimize this?
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You know?
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Except I know dot dot dot people are always talking
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about incarceration, and and you know, we don't want to
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send people to jail for it. You know, I don't either,
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And we've talked before let's find the hell out of them.
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But tell me about this debate and sparring with Senator Gruter,
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who I normally love. So this is the first issue
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that I don't love him on.
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Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely me as well.
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I mean, he's a very very nice man. He is
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just ill informed on this issue.
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Or you know, again, we can also go to following
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the money right, but his talking point predominantly is how
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the legislature will be able to regulate the public smoking.
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That's his main talking point is regulating public smoking. But
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what he fails to have us look at, and this
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is why again I urge everyone to read the amendment
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is go back to under the limitations C six and
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understand that all the author needed to do was cross
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out the word medical and he would effectively be able
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to have the bill that he's been talking about, which
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would ban public smoking on our beaches and et cetera,
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et cetera. The problem with this too is, you know
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he's talked about and this is the main talking point
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that I'm going to handle this as a legislature. You know,
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don't worry about it.
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The legislature can do this sort of an opposition of
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what I'm saying, but.
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The fact of the matter is is again they have
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to write bills that are consistent with the language of
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the amendment. That would not be consistent number one. Number two,
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we have had another senator, Senator Martin, come out and
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say no, sorry, Senator Gruers, you can't do that.
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He is a lawyer, by the way. And we also
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have had.
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The governor come out and say, no, you can't do.
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That, which he's also a lawyer.
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He's explaining and showing all of us that they can't
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do that. So they both know, as along with many
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other attorneys, that the implementing language or any subsequent bills
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to handle again mister Gruter's talking point about public smoking,
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they wouldn't be able to effectively ban public smoking because again,
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that one word, and that's all the.
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Author needed to do.
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And I mean with with President Trump, I get it,
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it's it's frustrating. But for me, I truly don't believe
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that we as Floridians, or we as constituents really as
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any state, look to our elected officials to make our
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decisions on constitutional amendments. I think we have you know,
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the parties are split. This is really truly not a
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partisan issue. Because this is about our state as a whole.
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It's not about one particular party.
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And although you know.
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There's lots of people that I respect and appreciate their
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opinions on I do believe they are wrong on this.
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I know that they're wrong on this, and it's as
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simple as the black and white language of the amendment.
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Well, in the Tally Democrat story, one of their go
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to lines is that if we vote yes on three,
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that it will reduce crime, the black market.
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And teen use.
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I don't believe any of this because I think more
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people are going to be smoking it.
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Absolutely, I totally agree with you.
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And all we have to do is look at states
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other states that have recreational marijuanas to see that the
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black market doesn't disappear. So this idea and this thought
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process of oh, don't worry if we legalize that the
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black market will go away is just simply a fallacy.
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It's a fantasy land, and it is something that they
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want the voters to believe. And again fear mongering, as
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if we have this huge problem here, all you're going.
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To do is make it worse.
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The black market doesn't disappear states that have recreational marijuana.
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In fact, they're emboldened. They have a larger customer base
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because people are going to be looking for cheaper illegal options. Ultimately,
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at the end of the day, but they're looking for
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cheaper alternatives. There's going to be more people that are
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seeking the products because you're again increasing access generally and overall,
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people are going to want to use and so it
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doesn't go away.
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The black market doesn't go away.
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And when we are talking about.
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Our children, which I really wanted to pass forward to,
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that's where a major concern is.
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When you increase access.
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And availability, you increase use. And again with our cartoon
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marijuana stuffed guy that's running around and the bright colors,
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et cetera, and what they have used in other states
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in the recreational market, you are marketing and targeting children.
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So sending the message that another intoxicating substance should be
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legal and another intoxicating substance for our kids to have
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access to is not a smart plan for this state.
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And we need to vote it down on November fifth.
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So one of the one of the prob ideas is
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that you know, it'll put money into the legislature and
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they'll they'll they'll devote it to the sheriff and education.
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And I don't believe any of this.
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So how do you see it, Jessica.
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Well, we don't know where it's going to go.
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I mean, I have seen an ad that says it's
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going to go to schools in law enforcement. But nowhere
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in the language in the amendment did they delineate out
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where they wanted tax revenue.
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To go to.
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You know, and that's all well and good if they
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want to also reference the fiscal impact statement about you know,
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how much money taxes would be raised or earned here
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in the state. We also need to look to the
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other states and find out what the social cost costs
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are for recreational marijuana, and Colorado is a great example
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of it. For every dollar in tax revenue, another four
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dollars and fifty cents goes out in social costs, so
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the tax revenue so it's almost a non issue for me,
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because one, we have no idea what the legislature will
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do with it. We have no idea what our state
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government would decide is the best place to put it.
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Number one.
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Number two, in theory, we're operating at a deficit because
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there are social costs associated with the legalization of marijuana,
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that we need to take into account and understand that
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it will cost us more money for legalized marijuana here
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in the state than it would to not have it.
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Well, which I this fact. I didn't realize this, but
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the article says that legal purchase of marijuana, if you're
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a medical card holder, that product isn't taxed.
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So how are they making the money?
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I guess will it be these corporations then are going
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to pay the money to be here if it's legalized.
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I would imagine that the legislature, and this is a
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little bit out of my scope of understanding, but the
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legislature would then come in and decide how much it
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would be taxed, et cetera, and then decide where that
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tax revenue would go.
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Okay, and what are we missing?
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We're talking to doctor Jessica Spencer who's fighting no on
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an amendment three.
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What if we missed Jessica.
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I think the one thing that we didn't talk about
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last time that is perhaps most shocking of all of this,
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as if this isn't enough already, is the civil and
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criminal immunity that the industry has.
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Written in for themselves. So if the.
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Listeners again, please read the Constitutional Amendment full text. You
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do not have to believe anything that I'm saying or
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they're saying. Go and read the language. You do not
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need to be a lawyer or a legislator or you know,
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have a legal degree to understand the language and the amendment.
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So please read the language.
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And most shocking.
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That we didn't talk about previously is on page one.
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They have written in civil and criminal immunity for anything
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that they do. It is an unprecedented level of immunity
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and it runs through their entire process. It goes all
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the way from acquiring to selling and distributing marijuana products
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and marijuana accessories, which accessories would be your product liability.
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If there is something wrong with the vapor pen or
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the mechanism in which you use their products, you cannot
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sue them for it. And I promise you that if
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there is an accident, if there is Heaven forbid a death,
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or if there is a poisoning, that their lawyers are
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going to use that language in Section A five. They
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are going to use that language as a shield from
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any lawsuit.
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They have written any protection for themselves.
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For anything that they do, and it's it's unbelievable, most shocking,
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and honestly the grossest part of all of this.
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Well, I think we've covered it all where I know
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your sprint to the finish line. We've got to rally
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everybody to early vote. And this is not a good
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thing for Florida. You know, we're freedom Florida, but this
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is this is bad for for our children.
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And we already have all the medical dispensaries.
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So if somebody wants it, you know, they can, they
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can definitely get it if they're if they're they medically
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need it.
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So that's the thing. It's already around Jessica, you know.
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Yeah, and this amendment, if you if you do have
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medical marijuana or you have a loved one that utilizes that,
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that is under a constitutional amendment. And this voting no
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on recreational marijuana does not affect that we would still
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have medical marijuana here in the state of Florida. That
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was and is a constitutional amendment and a constitutional right
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for medical marijuana.
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Well, I am right there. I voted no. I've rallied everybody.
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I know, thank you, and I know I know you're
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working hard to get the message out, so I follow
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I follow you all on.
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X and it's Voe. Let me see, I'm pulling it
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up here. Vote no.
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Oh my goodness, I want to get it right. Vote
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no on three. And thanks doctor Jessica. Spencer fighting the
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fight and I know we're going to come back on
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top with this, so we'll talk again for sure.
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Thanks for joining we are today and good luck.
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Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it
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all right.
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Thanks for listening to Bronic Live.
