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Welcome to Vault Empowers Talks, the
podcast where we dive deep into the minds
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of today's top leaders and game changers. I'm your host, Brandy Harvey,
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and on this show we go beyond
the surface, asking the questions that most
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people don't dare ask. Each week, we unlock the vault of untapped wisdom,
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bring you exclusive interviews with trailblazers who
have disrupted industries, derailed norms,
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and achieve remarkable success. Our mission
is to challenge conventional thinking, inspire innovation,
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and empower you to take bold steps
towards your own greatness. So get
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ready for candid conversations and unconventional insights
that will leave you feeling motivated, enlightened,
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and ready to conquer your ambitions.
Welcome to Vault Empowers Talks, TV
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and Media. Personality Style Maven look
at the stylist chick sitting next to me.
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Co founder of Brown Girl, Jane
A five fragrance Bland Design to Improve
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Your Mood, Creator and founder of
Morning Mindset with Tye. It started off
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as an IG live and has spawned
into an international retreat and monthly meetups.
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I am so excited to have this
conversation on wellness and all things wonder.
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Welcome to Vaughtonpower's Talk. Miss tie
Beauchamp. Come on, girl, listen.
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This about to be a good girlfriend
conversa. You know what you already
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know. I feel like we're too
far away anyway, the mics are here,
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so we got to stay with the
mics. But I'm like, you're
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here. I'm so this this really
people don't even know when you talk about
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how things are so divine. This
was one of those last minute things that
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really came. We are in la
You don't see us in our regular Atlanta
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studio. We're in Los Angeles.
And when you got the favor, the
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favor, the favor, because it's
fair, Okay, when you got favor,
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you get people who show it for
you at the last minute and say
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yes, I'm gonna come and support. That was a no brainer. I
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mean literally, when sin Clara on
my team said that Brandy to shoot,
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you know, your scheduled to do
it in Atlanta in October, but you
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know, let's figure it out.
I was like perfect. I was like,
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let's do it. It worked out. I am so deeply honored and
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I celebrate you so but I always
feel that I mean you always from Carly
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and I You've always been one of
those cheerleaders from a distance, and I
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think the same thing. I remember
seeing you years ago at Essence Best and
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we were kind of friends from a
distance then and just have always showed up
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in different ways in each other's lives. So I'm excited for this. Thank
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you so much. I'm looking forward. I mean, you were. People
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don't may not know this because they
see that you've done so many things in
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your career you have. You are
like the cat would not lives like you
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twenty five. You keep evolving,
right, but it's never it never feels
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out of character, out of your
willhouse. Right, but twenty five years
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old, you're the youngest beauty director
right as seventeen magazine. But she says
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something really interesting in one of your
interview you said that you learned very early
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in your twenties that titles were important, but you did not allow that to
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define you. You had the confidence, but you didn't have the authority.
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Yeah, I mean, it's so
crazy to think and wow, So that
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was almost twenty years ago, which
is crazy, you know. And I
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meet young people and hopefully I'm still
trying to keep it tight. And together
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and all those things. Listen,
y'all will see this maybe trying to keep
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it together, and so, you
know, sometimes I forget for myself that
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I'm forty five years old. But
yeah, I was really blessed. But
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I also worked really hard. I
was an intentional worker. I was a
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person you know who I think came
out of the womb, you know,
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feeling purposed in some way and driven
in another way. And I think statistically
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the drive came from some of the
you know, circumstances that surrounded my birth,
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which I'm sure we'll talk a little
bit more about, but you know,
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becoming the beauty director, the first
African American we were saying African American
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then than that black, the first
African American and youngest beauty director in history
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at seventeen magazine when I was twenty
five. This was before social media,
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so there were no conversations about it. There were no big puss I mean,
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you had an announcement in media.
There was media, bistro and a
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couple other places that were that shared
that type of news, and I,
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you know, I had worked really
hard to get there. And I was
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also very fortunate that I had people
around me that saw my possibilities, and
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those were incredible women like Michelle Hucks
at Hurst Magazines, that was Gail King,
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that was Ellen Levine at Hurst Magazines, who saw my possibility, even
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people like Susan Taylor. So my
career trajectory is I started interning while I
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was in college. I interned at
Harper's Bazar and Good Housekeeping while I was
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a student at Spelman, and then
as I was graduating, they were launching,
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Oh, the Oprah Magazine in two
thousand and so that was my first
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job out of college. I literally
started at Oprah and worked on a third
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issue a month after graduating Spellman.
So it was like a dream come true.
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And I was fortunate because people like
Amy grow Sin, Gail King when
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I worked at Oprah Magazine, saw
my drive and saw, you know,
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my passion for service quite frankly,
because that's what being an editor is.
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You're storytelling, You're you know,
you're you're helping women to feel elevated,
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especially at a place like Oprah.
And so I was promoted quite a bit
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at Oprah Magazine. I think I
had like three or four promotions in the
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course of like a year, in
like four months, and then I went
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to work on a title. Susan
Taylor and Elaine Flucker at Essence hired me
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to work on prototypes of what would
become Swede Magazine, which was no longer
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around. And then I went to
seventeen Magazine when I was twenty five,
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and so I had had some experience. So I say all of that to
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say, you know, the confidence
I had, I think, the pedigree
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I had, even some of the
knowledge I had, But at twenty five,
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you're still learning to be in yourself. Yeah, And you know,
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I speak to a lot of young
people now, and you know there is
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a lot of sometimes authentic confidence and
sometimes false confidence. Oh because you know,
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I think social media really kind of
creates a space for people to feel,
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you know, more confident and assured
than perhaps some of the experience has
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caught up with And I remeinbe it's
a little more entitled. I think that
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too, So so let's call it
what it is, slash that confident entitled.
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But I you know, I remember, you know, knowing that I
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was in a wonderful position to be
there and excited to be there, but
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I still realized I had a lot
to learn. But at the same time,
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you know, having these titles.
I went back home to New Jersey,
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you know, and my family's from
Nowark, New Jersey, which I
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read proudly. And so when I
would go back home, you know,
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at the time, the Oranges and
Central Jersey where my mom and my stepdad
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are. You know, they're educators. So I had kids from you KNOWRK
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public schools in my environment, and
so I knew that I couldn't have a
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head about the title. I had
to have a heart about the work.
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And dog that was that was the
come on clip that that's it, that's
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the one. I couldn't have a
head about the title, but I had
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a heart about the work. But
I just think that that's the spirit of
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who I am. And I learned
a lot about myself while at seventeen,
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you know, I worked harder than
most. But I also recognized later when
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I decided to leave at twenty six, so I was there for about a
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year, that there are certain things
that you may be ready for, but
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there are other things that you can
only learn in action. Oh yeah,
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And I'm happy that I got that
lesson at that age because it helped to
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kind of cement a lot of how
now I show up, you know,
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not with the you know, the
kind of ego or the presence of me
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knowing everything, but knowing that I
have something to contribute meaningfully. But I'm
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also going to take and grow from
something that I'm learning in that experience.
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It's interesting because Carly and I were
just talking about that this morning. We
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were talking about in our twenties,
how you show up in your twenties,
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you know, with the bravado thinking
you know everything. I got it,
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I'm like the little superhero. But
there's so much that you learned along the
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way, you know that really teaches
you patients and how to slow down.
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Yeah kind of, Yeah, savor
the situations and savor the moments. And
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so you learned a lot at a
very young age, which kind of propelled
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you into those next you were at
VI Vixen. Yeah, so I so
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after seventeen, I left seventeen,
and then I went and did philanthropic work
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in York, which I think we
were connecting meaningfully around that time too,
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with my mentor's family foundation. And
then as I was doing that philanthropic work
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in NewYork, I got called to
become the editor in chief of Vixen,
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which is like quintessential. Like if
you were in college during that time,
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you knew like you were running to
get the new new drop of by Vixen.
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It was going, Yeah, it
was it was And for me that
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was the other thing. It was
recognizing that here I was working with this
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demographic of young people who were strivers
and wanted to reach for something, and
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we're also dynamically connected to culture,
right because here I am in an urban
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community that's outside of New York City
where there's a lot of culture happening.
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And I thought like, and I
was so grateful when Danielle Smith called me
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for that opportunity to go in and
lead this title. I did it simultaneously.
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So that was the beginning of my
entrepreneurial kind of existence too. So
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I went into the Vibe Vixen offices
three days a week and I did my
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philanthropic work on the other two days
of the week. Oh wow. So
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but I was able to extract what
I was seeing from having my you know,
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foot on the ground in the community
and knowing like, these are things
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that young women want, these are
things that they're thinking about and wanting to
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create a title with my awesome team
at Vibevixen that had a distinct point of
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view but also allowed you know,
young women, ur women to see themselves
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where they were, but also to
aspire to where they wanted to go.
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So we added, you know,
to vi Visen. We had a home
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section. We had you know,
it's funny. I was Shonda is a
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dear friend of mine, and we
were covering art vi Visen. We were
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talking about, you know, being
in the club and what it's like,
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you know, and misogyny. We
were talking about all those layers while having
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you know, the fabulous fashion,
the newest things. So that was a
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great time in my life. I
don't think I reflect enough on some of
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those experiences. So yeah, thank
you for that. You recently said in
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one of your h you did a
talk with during essence Fess and you said
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that you didn't really celebrate along the
way and you didn't really kind of give
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in to those moments. When you
look back at it, do you wish
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you would have kind of savored the
moment a little bit and kind of really
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taken it all in. Yeah,
I wish that for myself now. I'll
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be honest, like, yeah,
you know, my assistant said to me
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the other day. We had an
incredible year, and I was like,
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you're right, I do wish I
would have savored a lot of those moments.
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I also, you know, I
can look back hindsight now and also
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say that I wish I would have
leaned into many aspects of my life a
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little bit more differently than I did. So I was so I'm a Capricorn.
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Oh goodness, look to best friends, my daddy. You know,
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listen, I can't escape y'all.
Like I'm just I'm so super focused.
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I was born that way, you
know. I was born with that that
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intentional kind of like what am I
here to do? You say? Purpose
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driven? I felt that like I
felt called to do something. So I
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do wish I would savor the moments
a little bit more. I am,
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even at this point in my life
now working with intention to breathe and stop.
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And that's how morning mindset was born. In many ways. Even my
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move to LA was a reset for
me in that way, because I was
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on the incredible concrete hamster will of
New York City all of my life and
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you know, all of my professional
life until I moved here almost six years
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ago. So I do wish I
you know, I'm grateful for it now,
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and then I'm also grateful for moments
like this when you sit down and
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you have someone to read back to
you yeah, because you also forget yeah
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in real time. But that is
the blessing. That is the blessing that
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we have these moments to You did
that, Sis, Yeah, you did
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that. So you moved to La
six years ago, and that is where
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you fell in love with hiking and
so hiking your experience of being able to
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fall into nature and really experience God
and nature was really what you wanted to
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share. And that's how I'm mourning
myself with Tie really kind of took,
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you know, and got his wings. It's so true. And I realized
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I always had like a little bit
of an outdoorsy thing, even when I
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lived in New York and New Jersey. There's a place called South Mountain in
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the town where I grew up that
I would go with my mom and I
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would go hiking, but I did
not fall in love with it until I
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moved here to LA. I should
also say my grandfather was a black cowboy,
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so I also think that part of
this love of nature is something inside
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me. But when I moved here
to La. I was definitely going through
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this space of you know, trying
to reconcile and you know, reimagine what
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my life could and would be.
I was a caregiver to my grandmother alongside
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my mother for thirteen years, eleven
years in New York City and then when
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I moved out here she passed two
years later. But a full like a
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full time caregiver in addition to running
my business. And that's very dreaming.
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Yeah, you know, and that's
the season that a lot of us are
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entering into age in our lives because
our parents are becoming and I tell my
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mom and my dad, I don't
even call on my step dad. I
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said, I'm gonna do the best
I can for y'all. But I ain't
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doing that again. I'm serious.
I became a caregiver at twenty eight.
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And it's a lot that people don't
understand how how taxing it is to give
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of yourself in that way, and
it leaves little love for yourself, little
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love for yourself. And I also
think culturally for us as black people,
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we also there's some type of martyrdom
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it's you know what I mean,
But it's also like this, you
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know, I did that, you
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because that's what we're called to do
as family, as community, and that's
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what we've always done. It's always
taken a village. But it takes a
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village. Yeah, And I don't
think that, you know, we should
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suffer as a result of our desire
to care for those who have cared for
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us. But it was it was
a blessing. I learned a lot from
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it, but it was definitely a
hard thing to do, to be a
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caregiver at twenty eight at the time. That's when I became the editor of
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Vivixen that same year, started my
business that same year. Wow, you
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know, broke up and with someone
and then got it was a lot all
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the things, do you know how
we do it? Gonna break up,
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get back together, follow there.
It was a lot of things, because
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there was a lot of things.
But yeah, moving out here to La
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really it repositioned my spirit and it
called my spirit in a new way.
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state of transition, you know.
And that's the other thing I say to
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people is like transition leads to transformation
if you allow it to. But the
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other thing is that we can't say
that we're having a transition and expected to
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be the only transition in life.
There are going to be lots of transitions
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in life. And so this one
in particular, I, you know,
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definitely wasn't as healthy physically as I
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back and say that I was dealing
with some level of depression. I was
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questioning everything because I had left New
York, which have been such a powerful
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and prominent existence for me in defining
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personally, and I came out here, I was like, what the what
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is going on? And I had
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the time was in front of Runyon
Canyon, and I looked at my body.
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our body. We don't necessarily always
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I think we're starting to do that
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if you look at yourself in the
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that is your calling card to do
something different. And so that was
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part of it for me, and
I was just like, I'm just gonna
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get out here on this hill and
hike every day. And I did,
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and I started seeing my body transform. But as I was doing that,
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I was like, let me get
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like what is going to be my
setup in order for me to get out
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of this space of the what the
what, the question marks around what was
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happening professionally and start to reset some
of my practices so that way I could
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see to my next, so I
could get out of this present state and
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see to my next. And I
started hiking, and I started I pulled
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out a book that Emil wilbick In, one of my best friends, gifted
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me in twenty twelve and it was
until Today by Yalla Vezant had daily emotional
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reading it on ig live and just sharing
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like the downloads that were coming to
me from this reading as a prompt.
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And you know, first time,
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and over a course of time,
fifty people on the live, one hundred
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people in alive, one hundred and
fifty people in the live. And I
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had, you know, notable people
who I love and have close relationships with
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saying I see you, and then
I started inviting people in and that's how
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Morning Mindset was born. And I
just feel so incredibly grateful and humble to
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be honest, Brandy, because what
we don't often realize when we're going through
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our own mess is that our mess
is meant to not only be our mess
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and our blessing, but it can
bless someone else. Yeah, and so
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my mess became a blessing to other
people. And yeah, and Marnie mindset
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is blowing my mind. I mean
to watch it, you know, really
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take off and transform and you get
on there consists didn't like at six fifteen
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in the morning. I don't know
how. Let me tell y'all how you
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do that? Ty get on their
honey, she'll have a glow, got
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a pajama still on. It is
nothing in the world that would make me
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want to do that. Listen,
I'd be looking crazy in the morning,
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okay, honey with the lockbond.
I got a lock bond it Okay.
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So look, I don't even want
to get on there like that. But
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you have really taken this and transformed
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Live, but now it desponding to
a monthly meetup which I said I'm coming
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to while I'm here, i'mist say
it on camera, so I actually show
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up, hold her accountable. And
then a retreat. You just completed your
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first retreat International treat in Bali and
God is God is showing out. God
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is showing out and showing up in
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an incredible partnership with BT that is
going to become an annual partnership over our
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time. So we did our largest
hike to date that had more than three
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hundred people traveling in from as far
as London and Jamaica and other places around
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the country to hike and have this
experience. And it's called a hike and
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experience for a reason, Brandy,
because people think, like, is it
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just me showing up to hike with
Thai. It's a piece of it,
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but it really is a transformational wellness
an integrated wellness experience. So we have
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four key pillars of Morning mindst with
time. It is affirm move so you
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affirm yourself, you affirm others around
you, You affirm the presence of God
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or Spirit, and you know whatever
that is for you is God for me
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and then you move your body,
you move that energy, and then you
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connect with self, you connect with
those around you, connect with spirit,
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God and nature, and then you
reset to do it all over again.
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And these are pillars, but they're
also principles that have ultimately helped me to
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go from this space of you know, floundering to thriving that I want to
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share with women. And the movement
piece is so important because you know,
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we think about fitness as a part
of wellness, but wellness is really you
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know, multi pronged and spiritual wellness. It's communal, you know, it's
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the idea of being in community,
which is really important for us. It
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is, you know, how you
talk to yourself, how you talk to
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others, how you really appreciate the
space that you're in. And it's just
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been incredible to see this grow,
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With our hiking experiences that we host
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people every single month that join us. We are having our second event on
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the beach, so we're taking the
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the beach and hiking is metaphorical for
life. That was the other reason why
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I wanted people to join in that
it's one foot behind the other. It's
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one step at a time, one
step forward at a time. You might
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have to pant, you might have
to re establish or footing, you might
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have to pause, you might feel
wobbly, or you might feel super strong
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in an authority in that you might
have to reach back to your friend or
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sister and say, help me forward, or push the next person you know
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forward. So that's what hiking has
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but it also transformed my mindset and
it's been incredible to just see how
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it's grown. We had our first
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women fly over from the United States, black women ranging in age from seventeen
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all the way up to sixty five, so it's an intergenerational thing. We
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have our second retreat happening in Jamaica
January tenth through the fifteenth, So you
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can go to Morning mindsetw't high dot
com to find out more about that.
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of twenty twenty four. Yeah,
so all this came from you floundering about,
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like what the heck is going on
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to flying around the world, flying
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a testament because so many people we
can it's stuck, right, and we
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stay stuck for a long time.
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on the couch, stuck in a
situation, just stuck. And so what
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was that one thing outside of you
saying I'm gonna start hiking, how can
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women really start to kind of see
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about. Well, I think it
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my decision to really renew my relationship
with God, to reimagine my relationship with
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God, and this you know again
this happened. Is the other thing is
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this is metaphorical for life. What
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so literally what morning mindset was was
me getting up, going into prayer and
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worship. So prayer and worship,
I literally put on a playlist that I
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can totally share with you by yourself, and I be all the way in
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worship. Some of y'all think y'all
gott to go to the church. Listen,
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is you you right there? You
are to church? All the way
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in worship, and then I would
put that on while I hiked. So
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in those moments when my foot got
wobbly, God helped me to make this
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step. And so it was spirit
first, but then it was also you
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talked about earlier, like some of
it was a reflection on where I had
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been, because oftentimes when we get
to this place and we think we're at
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a plateau where we're feeling like we're
in the valley, we forget sometimes that
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we've had similar experiences in the past, that God carried us through and that
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we walked through, and that we
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resilience to actually press through. And
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so I would have praise and worship
every single morning. Then I sat down
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and I would read a Yalla until
Today, and I would read some other
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devotionals, and I would journal,
and then it was also just being intentional
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about the people I connected with,
because everyone is not going to be for
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you in every single season, So
there are some people that are just not
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going to be the ones that you
need to have with you as you're going
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through that next thing. And so
if you're in the state. And I'm
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going to look at the the camera
and say this. If you're in a
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place right now where you know that
God is calling you to transform, the
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first thing is to pause, stop, get connected with yourself and God spiritually,
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start asking yourselves very difficult questions and
you know, being intentional about how
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you study and who you connect with, so that way you can then be
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illuminated for yourself around what comes next. You know, yeah, you really
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tap into And I love this because
you get to define what God or Spirit
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looks like for you right And one
of my favorite books is Discover the Power
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Within You by Eric Butterworth. And
I think that so many people were looking
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forward outside of ourselves to show up
that there's going to be something that the
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trump is gonna sound, this guy's
gonna open up, and here it is.
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it. Yeah, you have to
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do that's the part. Yeah,
don't wait for that. But I also
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think that that's unfortunately part of the
cultural conditioning that we've had in the past.
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carry the faith of our ancestors,
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but our faith you know, looks
different, and you know, we have
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to choose because the environments are different, the circumstances are different. You know,
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if you think about the faith of
my grandmother, that looked very different
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being a woman that was born in
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you know in the circumstances that she
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was born into. And so we
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now I'm not saying that the faith
itself changes, but we have to redefine
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what that faith looks like for us
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it. I love church, and
so I actually enjoy going to church,
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but I know that that's not for
some people, which is why you know,
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I always say, even on morning
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what I'm a believe, but you
will know what I believe. You will
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know what I believe, and you
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that that invitation in that space for
people to come in and not feel judged,
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will say is terribly challenging about Christianity.
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my whole life, but I also
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have felt not struggle with personally,
but struggled with understanding. But I was
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also fortunate. You know, I
have a lesbian aunt who would have you
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know, been considered queer, who
helped, really helped me be exposed to
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the creative world. She took me
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years old and it was it was
nuts. I said, Mommy, you
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let me go with her. She
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I was like, okay, girl, right, I you know I had
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I had a Pentecostal grandmother who was
an evangelist. I had another grandmother I
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went to another grand Mary was you
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you know, Methodist than Baptists.
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Jewish, you know, I have
a half sister's Jewish. My uncle's Muslim.
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of this and knew to love them.
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took me to the masch did or
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when I went to the temple with
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principals were the same. They are
the same. Love, be loved,
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you know, treat you with kindness
you want to be treated. It's all
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the same things. So when we
you know, my pastor, says Pastor
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Mike Waldron of First Corinthian Baptist Church
in New York City, says it all
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the time. We have so many
people that are are so obsessed and more
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concerned about what the doctrine says,
opposed to the life that Christ lived.
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everywhere, yeah, you know, and
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met people where they were. And
so I think I'm kind of being used
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in that way, I hope,
whether or not it's on a beach or
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in a club, no kidding,
but but it is the truth is the
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truth, because no matter where we
show up, we're really just called to
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be demonstrators, demonstrators of God's love, of his grace, of you know,
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the glory of what it is.
And so I think that's a testament
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to who you are. And you
say this that you really bring your life
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to your work, and this is
your purpose is to bring people and illuminate,
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help them to see the light that's
already there inside of their own lives.
409
00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:04.480
That is my calling, yea,
that is my calling. I recently
410
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started saying that I'm a joy sharer
and a love depositor. You know,
411
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I want to spread and share joy. And I want to deposit love wherever
412
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I go and I want people to
feel that. And you know, it's
413
00:28:18.119 --> 00:28:19.759
always so interesting too, because they're
like, oh, but you know,
414
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how can you be a boss woman
and do that? You know, all
415
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of my emails, whether or not
it's going to a CEO of a company.
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You know, whether or not I'm
texting with some of my dearest friends
417
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who live in the c suites of
major organizations, it says, with gratitude,
418
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or whether or not I'm you know, speaking to my best friend,
419
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it says, with gratitude. And
you know, I think this is the
420
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other thing that's really important for us
as black women. Our fullness might not
421
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be okay for everyone, but it
is to the benefit of everyone, you
422
00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:56.119
see what I mean, Like,
we can't leave pieces of ourselves anywhere.
423
00:28:56.279 --> 00:29:00.559
And you know that doesn't mean that
every space is going to be uote unuote
424
00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:02.799
ready for all of you. Yeah, that's not for you to think about.
425
00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:04.799
Yeah, but you learned that at
a very early age. You said
426
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that learning coming from a mother who
had you at a very young age,
427
00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:14.160
being raised in three different households because
of your grandparents and their influence in your
428
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life. You said you learned very
early that you couldn't show up as your
429
00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:21.839
full self in all of those spaces. It was different in each space.
430
00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:26.519
I think they loved me, but
there were different expectations at each place.
431
00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:30.640
They loved me fully, though,
and I think that that was the thing.
432
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:33.720
I you know, there were different
rules. One of the things that
433
00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:38.000
growing up funny story like growing up
in my father's family's house with my with
434
00:29:38.039 --> 00:29:41.480
my paternal grandparents. You know,
my grandmother was a homemaker, so she
435
00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:45.920
stayed at home and she washed clothes
every single day, So you got a
436
00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:48.799
new towel and a new wash house
every single day, and you just left
437
00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:49.920
it, you know, at the
top of the stairs because she was going
438
00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:52.920
to take it down and do laundry, probably in twenty five minutes. Yeah.
439
00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:56.720
And when I when I moved it, they would go to my mom's
440
00:29:56.759 --> 00:30:00.720
house. They were like, what
you better picked that up and put that
441
00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:04.480
in the hamper. They're working women, They're not doing laundry until the weekend.
442
00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:08.839
And they were single at that.
Yeah, but you know, I
443
00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:14.440
learned to I think what I what
I can say now is that different parts
444
00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:21.079
of me were nurtured more holistically in
each home, you know, So I
445
00:30:21.119 --> 00:30:26.799
think about it with my grandmother Mary, who will forever be my first soulmate.
446
00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:33.039
She indeed was my first soulmate.
She let me be as creative and
447
00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:37.880
as vocal as I wanted to be
and needed to be so much. So,
448
00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:42.160
you know, because I did talk
a lot, I had a lot
449
00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:47.720
to say, even I would never
gather a lot to say is good?
450
00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:49.359
And I went to Catholic school,
so they were like, you know,
451
00:30:49.799 --> 00:30:55.079
she would say, you know,
I would get called in and I remember
452
00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:57.599
my grandmam and my mom going to
school and and them saying, you know,
453
00:30:57.640 --> 00:31:02.400
well she challenges a thora. And
my grandmother said, well, was
454
00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:06.480
is she disrespectful? Is she rude? And They're like, no, she
455
00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:07.799
just asked a lot of questions.
And my Grandma's like, well, we
456
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:11.240
encourage her to do that at home. So I had that there, whereas
457
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:17.880
at you know, my parental my
paternal grandparents' house. My grandmother was you
458
00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:22.119
know, the Pentecosta Evangelists. You
know, it was more like, you
459
00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:26.079
know, it's a lot of rules, a lot of right, a lot
460
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:27.640
of rules, and expect you had
to wear your long skirt and I'll make
461
00:31:27.720 --> 00:31:30.000
up. Yeah, well, I
mean I was a baby. She didn't.
462
00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:33.799
She passed when I was eight,
But she was that woman, you
463
00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:37.359
know, So there were there were
rules and hard expectations, but love.
464
00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:40.519
And I think that that's that's at
the end of the day, what I'm
465
00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:42.400
grateful for is, you know,
I had all of this love my mom
466
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:48.519
because she was a young mom was
more like a sister to me. You
467
00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:52.200
know, she always present, always
always present. But she was the one
468
00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:53.519
who brought me the fly. You
know, when the Jordans came out,
469
00:31:53.559 --> 00:31:56.359
I had the Jordans. You know, she was that she took me to
470
00:31:56.920 --> 00:32:00.559
you know art, you know,
art galleys, and I remember, you
471
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:04.599
know, when she was younger and
single, I would go out on dates
472
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:07.519
with her, like it was it
was that went out on dates with your
473
00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:10.920
mother. Yeah, because if if
I was with her that weekend, what
474
00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:14.240
I mean, if she wanted to
spend time with me, so if somebody
475
00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:15.599
wanted to take her out, it's
like you're taking me and my baby too,
476
00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:21.200
So we you know, and and
it's and it's nice to actually reminisce
477
00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:27.720
about those moments because I think oftentimes
we're even in relationships today, we're looking
478
00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:30.759
for all of the nurturing from one
person, and what you realize is that
479
00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:37.000
you need different people to kind of
be sources in different ways. So yeah,
480
00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:38.599
but that was it was, it
was, It was interesting. But
481
00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:44.799
I think that they each deposited something
really special that and necessary, that helped
482
00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:47.640
to kind of make me who I
am. And you know, my grandparents
483
00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:52.880
are all gone now and have transitioned, and I'm sure they're proud. Oh
484
00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:57.440
yeah, I actually proud. So
I'm grateful for that. Absolutely. You've
485
00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:04.920
you've normalized therapy in your conversations and
you've been very very vocal about your therapy
486
00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:10.880
journey. And so how has your
journey in therapy played into the relationship with
487
00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:16.359
your mother? Oh? Wow,
therapy has played into it. My trip
488
00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:20.640
to Bali has played into it.
But let's talk about the therapy part,
489
00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:23.799
you know, because Balie really has
did something for me. Did she go,
490
00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:27.640
No, she didn't go, but
she did say she's coming to Jamaica
491
00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:35.119
hopefully. So I started therapy for
the first time when I was twenty five,
492
00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:38.039
when I had that big job.
Good for you and I because I
493
00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:43.559
was I was I was going that
crazy. That was good crazy like it
494
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:46.279
was. It was a crazy time
for me. You know, trying to
495
00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:50.160
run that business. I also was
engaged at the time, so I was
496
00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:54.839
in a relationship trying to navigate doing
that and and frontal lobe still developing.
497
00:33:55.079 --> 00:33:59.599
Check girl, girl. I was
like, what is this? Is this
498
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:01.880
what's the supposed to be happening in
adult in my adult life? Is this
499
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:07.840
what it is? So I started
therapy at twenty five and then I remember,
500
00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:12.079
you know, going back again when
I when I became a caregiver to
501
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:15.559
my grandmother, and I remember actually
saying to my mom, I wanted her
502
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:20.840
to go in at that time too, because she was a care giver to
503
00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:24.719
my grandm She was the primary and
the two of us together, and you
504
00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:30.159
know, I talked a lot about
origin story. You know, I don't
505
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:32.559
speak very much about my father,
even though I lived in the house with
506
00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:37.360
him. He was also quite young
when I was born, but his parents
507
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:43.280
were my parents. He wasn't he
wasn't equipped to be a parent, and
508
00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:47.440
it's still struggling with his own journey. And I have I have four siblings
509
00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:52.199
as from my father. I'm my
mother's only child, so there's a lot
510
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:59.400
there. So therapy helped me address, you know, both the origin story
511
00:34:59.480 --> 00:35:04.559
and you know, childhood trauma and
childhood wounds that we all have, and
512
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:07.719
it's not about like releasing yourself from
them. It's more about understanding them,
513
00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:13.760
and in particular in the relationship with
my mother, because as I said,
514
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:19.039
my mother's always been incredibly present.
My Mom's a fantastic woman. But now
515
00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:22.360
that I am a grown woman with
full frontal lobe development, I have a
516
00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:27.880
different level of appreciation and understanding for
her journey. Absolutely, and I think
517
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:31.079
that that's what therapy has helped me
to do a lot of It's helped me
518
00:35:31.159 --> 00:35:37.599
to process my own feelings about situations
and circumstance and my own understanding to grow
519
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:45.360
them. But it's also giving me
greater tools and understanding around what real empathy
520
00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:50.519
looks like and what compassion really looks
like. What did it look like before
521
00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:57.760
before therapy, I think it was
just dismissive. It was very NRK in
522
00:35:57.840 --> 00:36:01.119
certain relationships. I think I could
always have it with people in the world,
523
00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:06.719
but I think sometimes we struggle.
We might have certain certain you know,
524
00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:08.840
ways of operating with people in the
world, and then sometimes we come
525
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:13.239
back to home, and you know, it's a little bit different because then
526
00:36:13.239 --> 00:36:16.719
we're carrying the weight and the burden
of or the responsibility or the pain or
527
00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:22.360
the disappointment of what is personal to
us. And so you know, I
528
00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:28.760
think historically when I think about the
evolution of even my relationship with my father,
529
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:32.599
which is not necessarily a relationship,
just more forgiveness and more acceptance and
530
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:39.360
more like real unconditional love, where
I just I'm praying for his journey,
531
00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:43.559
I'm praying for his healing and his
life, and I'm just so grateful that
532
00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:47.480
I'm here. But now I just
have I have more compassion and I'm able
533
00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:50.760
to ask like, well, what
does that feel like to you? What
534
00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:53.400
does that mean to you? And
I think therapy helps you to step outside
535
00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:59.960
of yourself, to get back into
yourself for sure, And yeah, I
536
00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:05.000
highly recommend it, and not just
you know, therapy or coaching to work
537
00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:07.519
on our emotional selves. You need
that support spiritually, like I'm going to
538
00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:10.760
coach for every aspect of my life. Yeah, you know, fitness,
539
00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:16.880
wellness, you know, spiritual business, you know. And and it also
540
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:22.679
is it's great to have mirrors who
are you know, completely objective, because
541
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:25.800
when you talk to some people,
you're gonna get their subjective thoughts and opinions
542
00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:31.480
and that only adds color rather than
you know, illuminating and gives you this
543
00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:37.760
magnifying lives. I was thirty four
when I when I first set foot in
544
00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:40.239
therapy, and I will have to
say I knew it twenty two that I
545
00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:44.760
needed to go. Really, I
knew it twenty two. And I remember
546
00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:47.440
I had just graduated from college,
I moved out to Los Angeles and I
547
00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:52.360
remember standing in the room with my
dad. I was like, I need
548
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:54.760
therapy, Like I just I feel
like I need to talk to somebody.
549
00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:59.320
And my dad said, and I
tell this story in my book. Black
550
00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:01.920
people don't have time for that.
We don't have time for that. Just
551
00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:08.039
get over it. Yeah. And
how many of us heard that same kind
552
00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:12.960
of story, that same kind of
response and said, oh wait, I
553
00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:15.559
don't need it. I just need
to get over it. And I spent
554
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:19.280
so many years just trying my best
to get over it. And baby I
555
00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:22.039
was I couldn't. I didn't know
how to. I didn't have the tools
556
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:27.320
because I thought, coming from a
very religious background, that I'm gonna pray
557
00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:29.199
about it. And I got the
scriptures and I got the end of so
558
00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:31.800
I'm gonna just go to church every
week and make sure I tie and it's
559
00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:36.360
gonna reveal itself. But it never
work like that. It does not.
560
00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:37.719
You gotta go do that word,
You gotta do that, right. So
561
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:42.000
what what was the catalyst in at
thirty four to make you go? If
562
00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:45.239
it was if there was this twelve
year gap of you like telling your dad
563
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:49.760
I need it. It was a
text message from my dad and it was
564
00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:54.039
in March, and I said,
you gotta go now because this has triggered
565
00:38:54.039 --> 00:38:59.400
you in such a way that it
took my whole day out. And because
566
00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:04.079
it took my whole day, I
said, you don't have the time to
567
00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:07.719
have your whole day taken by somebody, and you allow that. And I
568
00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:13.480
went into therapy. I called,
I said I'm ready and I didn't look
569
00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:15.360
back. And so are you a
once a week, once every two weeks,
570
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:20.320
or you need it? I was
a once a week for from that
571
00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:24.000
was like twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, once a week until this year.
572
00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:29.480
Yeah, me too, until this
year. And now I go as needed.
573
00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:35.159
I'm an as needed person. I'm
as needed because I went from every
574
00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:37.599
week to then I was going two
times a month, every other week,
575
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:39.320
and I was like Oh, this
is good. And then I got to
576
00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:42.800
a point where I was like,
you got the tools baby going out there.
577
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:45.880
Ye just swell. And I also
think, you know, the other
578
00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:49.679
thing about the that was, you
know, the therapist's you know, client
579
00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:52.800
relationship is that as you grow,
you might need to grow to you Absolutely
580
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:57.320
therapy, absolutely. And I know
people that I have been with the same
581
00:39:57.400 --> 00:40:00.320
person for like ten and fifteen years, I've like, I think I'm be
582
00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:04.559
sired of talking to him, but
no, but I honestly and I love,
583
00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:07.320
I love my therapist. But I
honestly think that that was when the
584
00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:10.480
shift, the shift has started,
because I think that there's other things that
585
00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:14.360
I want to work through and work
on. And I don't know if I
586
00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:16.679
think that we've come to you know, a conclusion, you know, in
587
00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:22.559
our relationship. Yeah, I if
you don't have a therapist, I mean
588
00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:25.039
there are so many resources now too. Yeah, Therapy for Black Girls.
589
00:40:25.079 --> 00:40:29.559
I have put that in my newsletter
multiple times. It has helped so many
590
00:40:29.639 --> 00:40:31.639
of my friends find their therapists by
using therapy for Black girls. Therapy for
591
00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:37.079
black girl, black girl doctor is
another world. Yeah, there are there
592
00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:43.119
is a wealth of opportunity to find
someone and Also, I just think I
593
00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:45.159
think the other day, I just
want to reiterate the reason why the therapist
594
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:50.719
is so good because they're trained to
understand how the mind works too, which
595
00:40:50.760 --> 00:40:54.239
is very different than talking to your
best friend. We love her, she
596
00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:58.079
great. Listen, shout out to
you, Yasmin and Nada love you,
597
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:00.000
guys, love you. But you
know, they know all about Tashan.
598
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:06.000
They didn't heard about Tashan for the
last ten years. They about Shan exactly.
599
00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:09.559
It's like they don't want to hear
nothing else about about him. So
600
00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:13.840
yeah, so it's like it's a
different thing. You're a different thing,
601
00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:17.679
it is. Yeah. So I
love that you. I feel like your
602
00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:23.559
evolution has been in front of people
and you've never shied away from that.
603
00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:28.519
And I think that's what makes your
journey so special is because you've always kind
604
00:41:28.519 --> 00:41:30.400
of lived. There's this open book
and as I'm going through, maybe I'm
605
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:34.800
gonna take you on the journey,
let's go, let's go where we go?
606
00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:39.360
Yeah, And I think that that
speaks to your I think it speaks
607
00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:44.360
to the sisterhood right because you grew
up, you went to all girls high
608
00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:47.320
school, your spell and graduate and
you really feel like your duty is to
609
00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:52.679
support women. And I think when
people see your journey, it's almost like
610
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:54.000
this is how I'm supporting you.
This I'm showing up for you. I
611
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:58.960
want you to show for yourself.
Though. Yeah, it's it's incredible.
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I I I just that's that's the
God be knowing part, you know,
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about like how we're meant to be
U. Yes, right, even if
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it's in different facets of business,
different enterprises like how I But I also
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just believe in the power of women. I know it personally because I saw
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my grandmother, you know, take
care of her mother, help take care
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of me and go to college,
go to graduate school. You know,
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your grandmother, my grandmother, Mary
was a beast, okay, and then
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I saw her, you know,
promote and pushed my mom to do the
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same. You know. My mom
became a homeowner at thirty five years old
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while in graduate school, and you
know, completed college as an adult like
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you know, and didn't we didn't
get all the things right all the time,
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but that's what that's what nurtured me. And I also saw the difference
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with them and my grandmother in particular, my grandmother had had a tribe of
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girlfriends that religiously. I don't know
how to do this. Every Sunday before
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Sunday school, they were on the
phone. I'm like, y'all going to
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see each other at church, Like
why you're on the phone now, But
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like you know, I saw that
network and what that meant. And I
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think growing up going to an all
girls high school in Nork, New Jersey,
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the only one in North New Jersey, shout out to Saint Vincent Academy
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and then Spelman just really helped me
to They were reflections but different, you
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know, different types of reflections.
And so I just believe in us and
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when I see us and I know
our pains, but I know our triumphs
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too. I know our possibilities.
I know that on different levels, and
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I just feel called to to share
and support and deposit where I can.
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But I also let me just say
this, sh'all, I'm ready to receive.
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Do so listen, listen, because
you're dropping all these love deposits.
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And I was asking, who's dropping
these love deposits? How is your tribe
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dropping those love deposits in your life? Well, my tribe does a great
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job, you know, my sisterhood
does a great your job, I I
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gotta acknowledge, and I can rattle
off some names. I don't want to
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miss anybody, but Yasmine. Her
name is Yasmine. I call her Yasmin,
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Nadia, Mashanda, Kimmy, Kelly, Jennifer, that I Natalie.
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I have my business partner, Malika, you know, brown girl Jane.
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I have a tribe, you know. And I'm really really grateful for how
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they show up. Now. I'm
ready for the love, uh, the
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blessed love partner and life partner,
because I think that that's different too,
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and so I'm ready for that.
What does that look like for you?
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I just I interviewed doctor Stacy J. Johnson. Uh. She has the
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program Just Day Girl, but she
has a program called I Want a good
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Man University. I want a good
man I want I want. I want
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a great, blessed, outstanding,
loving, honest, god fearing, connected,
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patient, generous, fun. Yeah, you know, but someone who
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also wants to build. Like that's
the other thing. It's like, you
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get to this place in life.
And I'm happy that I took off the
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Superwoman cape sometime ago, even though
I think I still do a little bit
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too much sometimes. But I also
believe that when God blesses me with this
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person when they enter my life for
that reason, and in that season,
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everything else that we are meant to
do in this earth and on this planet
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and in this time is going to
be multiplied and elevated for sure, because
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one of the things I came to
realize. And this is also, you
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know, different from sometimes the generation's
past, where there is this thought that
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I don't need anyone, which I'm
like, no, I need something.
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I do. Hey, you,
I need you, all right, you
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look into your kid, Well,
why don't we look into this. We
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need you, we need you,
we need you. I need you.
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But I do believe like and I
feel that even I have my godsons.
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Yes, yes, means two boys
had them last week, and I saw
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that on your story. I have
eight god children and I love them to
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peace. But I had my two
oldest godsons last week, and I feel
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so much more grounded when that love
anchors me, and even more capable and
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even more dynamic. Quite frankly,
you know, it's a beautiful thing to
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know that when they're there too.
Thirty while they're there that week, I
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shut off work so I have to
be productive because then the rest of the
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time is their time. So I
just feel like it's when when God places
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him. He's working on him right
now, he's getting him ready. When
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he's getting him ready, I know
you're getting ready, get ready, because
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I'm also in my forties. Two
child, take you out. No listen,
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she is going to love you.
She said, way you listen because
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we there. Honey, listen,
you are not alone. I am here
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with you. With the words of
Michael Jackson, Hello, Hello, listen
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as we wrap up this interview,
because like I know, I could talk
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to you all. We can really
go on all day. We're really good.
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What are you committed to? What
is tie committed to in this season?
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In this season right now, I
am committed to making room for love.
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That really is I'm committed to that. I remain committed to my calling,
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but in my purpose, committed to
making room for love and you know,
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nurturing that relationship with God and self. I'm also like, I'm in
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this space of just like wanting to
feel all joy like it it's interesting,
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like what what is going to make
life easier? What are going to be
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the things that are going to bring
those moments of joy and ease and so
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yeah, joy and ease, more
love and your love one the love,
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the love. Well, you know
what I want more love to. Yeah,
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and it shows up in so many
different ways, and even in the
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seasons that it shows up, how
it gives to us in those seasons.
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Yeah. So one word that you
are living by right now, God's grace.
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Well that's two, okay, Grace, Grace, Grace even in the
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valleys, even in the valley,
it's grace. Really in the valley,
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that's when we do it the most. It's the grace. What about you,
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what's your one word? My word
right now is honestly love, Like
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I really, I have affirmations on
my mirror, and I live in the
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overflow. I live in the overflow
of love. I live in the abundance
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of love. It's all around me. So I live by that because it
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doesn't miss me, and I don't
miss miss it. There a church,
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I want to thank you for joining
me today. I know we really could
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have done like two hours worth of
conversation. I feel like we're going to
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part two when she comes, because
I feel like, you know, she
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might be there for homecoming weekend or
something, and it might be a new
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love. It's always in your mouth
set. Look, look, then we're
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gonna have to come back and do
a praise report. Okay, it might
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be her love is at homecoming this
year. So look, I want to
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thank the beautiful Tie Beauchamp for joining
me. Ty you want to tell them
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your Instagram totally do I okay,
yep, perfect tybo Shamp and my Instagram
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is at tybo at t A I
b e a U. Also at Morning
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Mindset with Tie, and we didn't
talk about Brown Girl Jane, but also
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at it's Brown Girl Jane. So
that way we can scent your life for
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all the things. Listen, we
did not talk about lot. We covered
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a lot of ground, didn't.
I felt like it was I mean,
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it was what my spirit leading on
this Friday. I think you things.
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I love you, Tye. I
love that. Until next time you guys,
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make sure you follow Tie. Follow
more Morning Mindset with Tie. Also
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valuable insights and inspiration from our conversation today.
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Remember, the journey to success is
not a solitary one. Surround yourself
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with knowledge, cultivate your passion,
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There's always something new to learn and
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Welcome to Vault Empowers Talks, the
podcast where we dive deep into the minds
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of today's top leaders and game changers. I'm your host, Brandy Harvey,
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and on this show we go beyond
the surface, asking the questions that most
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people don't dare ask. Each week, we unlock the vault of untapped wisdom,
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bring you exclusive interviews with trailblazers who
have disrupted industries, derailed norms,
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and achieve remarkable success. Our mission
is to challenge conventional thinking, inspire innovation,
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and empower you to take bold steps
towards your own greatness. So get
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ready for candid conversations and unconventional insights
that will leave you feeling motivated, enlightened,
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and ready to conquer your ambitions.
Welcome to Vault Empowers Talks, TV
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and Media. Personality Style Maven look
at the stylist chick sitting next to me.
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Co founder of Brown Girl, Jane
A five fragrance Bland Design to Improve
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Your Mood, Creator and founder of
Morning Mindset with Tye. It started off
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as an IG live and has spawned
into an international retreat and monthly meetups.
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I am so excited to have this
conversation on wellness and all things wonder.
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Welcome to Vaughtonpower's Talk. Miss tie
Beauchamp. Come on, girl, listen.
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This about to be a good girlfriend
conversa. You know what you already
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know. I feel like we're too
far away anyway, the mics are here,
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so we got to stay with the
mics. But I'm like, you're
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here. I'm so this this really
people don't even know when you talk about
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how things are so divine. This
was one of those last minute things that
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really came. We are in la
You don't see us in our regular Atlanta
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studio. We're in Los Angeles.
And when you got the favor, the
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favor, the favor, because it's
fair, Okay, when you got favor,
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you get people who show it for
you at the last minute and say
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yes, I'm gonna come and support. That was a no brainer. I
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mean literally, when sin Clara on
my team said that Brandy to shoot,
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you know, your scheduled to do
it in Atlanta in October, but you
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know, let's figure it out.
I was like perfect. I was like,
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let's do it. It worked out. I am so deeply honored and
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I celebrate you so but I always
feel that I mean you always from Carly
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and I You've always been one of
those cheerleaders from a distance, and I
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think the same thing. I remember
seeing you years ago at Essence Best and
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we were kind of friends from a
distance then and just have always showed up
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in different ways in each other's lives. So I'm excited for this. Thank
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you so much. I'm looking forward. I mean, you were. People
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don't may not know this because they
see that you've done so many things in
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your career you have. You are
like the cat would not lives like you
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twenty five. You keep evolving,
right, but it's never it never feels
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out of character, out of your
willhouse. Right, but twenty five years
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old, you're the youngest beauty director
right as seventeen magazine. But she says
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something really interesting in one of your
interview you said that you learned very early
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in your twenties that titles were important, but you did not allow that to
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define you. You had the confidence, but you didn't have the authority.
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Yeah, I mean, it's so
crazy to think and wow, So that
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was almost twenty years ago, which
is crazy, you know. And I
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meet young people and hopefully I'm still
trying to keep it tight. And together
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and all those things. Listen,
y'all will see this maybe trying to keep
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it together, and so, you
know, sometimes I forget for myself that
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I'm forty five years old. But
yeah, I was really blessed. But
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I also worked really hard. I
was an intentional worker. I was a
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person you know who I think came
out of the womb, you know,
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feeling purposed in some way and driven
in another way. And I think statistically
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the drive came from some of the
you know, circumstances that surrounded my birth,
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which I'm sure we'll talk a little
bit more about, but you know,
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becoming the beauty director, the first
African American we were saying African American
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then than that black, the first
African American and youngest beauty director in history
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at seventeen magazine when I was twenty
five. This was before social media,
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so there were no conversations about it. There were no big puss I mean,
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you had an announcement in media.
There was media, bistro and a
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couple other places that were that shared
that type of news, and I,
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you know, I had worked really
hard to get there. And I was
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also very fortunate that I had people
around me that saw my possibilities, and
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those were incredible women like Michelle Hucks
at Hurst Magazines, that was Gail King,
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that was Ellen Levine at Hurst Magazines, who saw my possibility, even
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people like Susan Taylor. So my
career trajectory is I started interning while I
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was in college. I interned at
Harper's Bazar and Good Housekeeping while I was
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a student at Spelman, and then
as I was graduating, they were launching,
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Oh, the Oprah Magazine in two
thousand and so that was my first
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job out of college. I literally
started at Oprah and worked on a third
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issue a month after graduating Spellman.
So it was like a dream come true.
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And I was fortunate because people like
Amy grow Sin, Gail King when
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I worked at Oprah Magazine, saw
my drive and saw, you know,
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my passion for service quite frankly,
because that's what being an editor is.
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You're storytelling, You're you know,
you're you're helping women to feel elevated,
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especially at a place like Oprah.
And so I was promoted quite a bit
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at Oprah Magazine. I think I
had like three or four promotions in the
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course of like a year, in
like four months, and then I went
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to work on a title. Susan
Taylor and Elaine Flucker at Essence hired me
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to work on prototypes of what would
become Swede Magazine, which was no longer
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a heart about the work. But
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who I am. And I learned
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you know, I worked harder than
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knowing everything, but knowing that I
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you know, with the bravado thinking
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I'm like the little superhero. But
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way, you know that really teaches
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so you learned a lot at a
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after seventeen, I left seventeen,
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in York, which I think we
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with my mentor's family foundation. And
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in NewYork, I got called to
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which is like quintessential. Like if
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you knew like you were running to
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was the other thing. It was
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demographic of young people who were strivers
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we're also dynamically connected to culture,
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community that's outside of New York City
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for that opportunity to go in and
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philanthropic work on the other two days
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but I was able to extract what
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foot on the ground in the community
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that young women want, these are
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create a title with my awesome team
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view but also allowed you know,
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where they were, but also to
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So we added, you know,
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section. We had you know,
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dear friend of mine, and we
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talking about, you know, being
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you know, and misogyny. We
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you know, the fabulous fashion,
the newest things. So that was a
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great time in my life. I
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those experiences. So yeah, thank
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one of your h you did a
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that you didn't really celebrate along the
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in to those moments. When you
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you would have kind of savored the
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taken it all in. Yeah,
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be honest, like, yeah,
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the other day. We had an
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you're right, I do wish I
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say that I wish I would have
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little bit more differently than I did. So I was so I'm a Capricorn.
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Oh goodness, look to best friends, my daddy. You know,
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listen, I can't escape y'all.
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I was born that way, you
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intentional kind of like what am I
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driven? I felt that like I
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do wish I would savor the moments
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even at this point in my life
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move to LA was a reset for
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on the incredible concrete hamster will of
New York City all of my life and
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you know, all of my professional
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ago. So I do wish I
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and then I'm also grateful for moments
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you have someone to read back to
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in real time. But that is
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we have these moments to You did
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that. So you moved to La
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you fell in love with hiking and
so hiking your experience of being able to
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fall into nature and really experience God
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share. And that's how I'm mourning
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you know, and got his wings. It's so true. And I realized
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I always had like a little bit
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lived in New York and New Jersey. There's a place called South Mountain in
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the town where I grew up that
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would go hiking, but I did
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moved here to LA. I should
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so I also think that part of
this love of nature is something inside
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me. But when I moved here
to La. I was definitely going through
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this space of you know, trying
to reconcile and you know, reimagine what
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my life could and would be.
I was a caregiver to my grandmother alongside
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my mother for thirteen years, eleven
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I moved out here she passed two
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full time caregiver in addition to running
my business. And that's very dreaming.
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the season that a lot of us are
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entering into age in our lives because
our parents are becoming and I tell my
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mom and my dad, I don't
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said, I'm gonna do the best
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doing that again. I'm serious.
I became a caregiver at twenty eight.
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of yourself in that way, and
it leaves little love for yourself, little
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love for yourself. And I also
think culturally for us as black people,
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we also there's some type of martyrdom
around. It's a duty. It's yeah,
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it's you know what I mean,
But it's also like this, you
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know, I did that, you
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because that's what we're called to do
as family, as community, and that's
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what we've always done. It's always
taken a village. But it takes a
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village. Yeah, And I don't
think that, you know, we should
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suffer as a result of our desire
to care for those who have cared for
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us. But it was it was
a blessing. I learned a lot from
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it, but it was definitely a
hard thing to do, to be a
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caregiver at twenty eight at the time. That's when I became the editor of
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Vivixen that same year, started my
business that same year. Wow, you
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know, broke up and with someone
and then got it was a lot all
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the things, do you know how
we do it? Gonna break up,
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get back together, follow there.
It was a lot of things, because
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there was a lot of things.
But yeah, moving out here to La
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really it repositioned my spirit and it
called my spirit in a new way.
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Canyon and I was going through a serious
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state of transition, you know.
And that's the other thing I say to
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people is like transition leads to transformation
if you allow it to. But the
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other thing is that we can't say
that we're having a transition and expected to
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be the only transition in life.
There are going to be lots of transitions
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in life. And so this one
in particular, I, you know,
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definitely wasn't as healthy physically as I
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back and say that I was dealing
with some level of depression. I was
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questioning everything because I had left New
York, which have been such a powerful
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and prominent existence for me in defining
experience and existence for me professionally and even
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personally, and I came out here, I was like, what the what
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is going on? And I had
a place. I had my place at
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the time was in front of Runyon
Canyon, and I looked at my body.
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our body. We don't necessarily always
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I think we're starting to do that
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if you look at yourself in the
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that is your calling card to do
something different. And so that was
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part of it for me, and
I was just like, I'm just gonna
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get out here on this hill and
hike every day. And I did,
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and I started seeing my body transform. But as I was doing that,
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I was like, let me get
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like what is going to be my
setup in order for me to get out
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of this space of the what the
what, the question marks around what was
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happening professionally and start to reset some
of my practices so that way I could
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see to my next, so I
could get out of this present state and
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see to my next. And I
started hiking, and I started I pulled
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out a book that Emil wilbick In, one of my best friends, gifted
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me in twenty twelve and it was
until Today by Yalla Vezant had daily emotional
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reading it on ig live and just sharing
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like the downloads that were coming to
me from this reading as a prompt.
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you know, ten people in a live
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and over a course of time,
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people in alive, one hundred and
fifty people in the live. And I
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had, you know, notable people
who I love and have close relationships with
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saying I see you, and then
I started inviting people in and that's how
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Morning Mindset was born. And I
just feel so incredibly grateful and humble to
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be honest, Brandy, because what
we don't often realize when we're going through
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our own mess is that our mess
is meant to not only be our mess
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and our blessing, but it can
bless someone else. Yeah, and so
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my mess became a blessing to other
people. And yeah, and Marnie mindset
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is blowing my mind. I mean
to watch it, you know, really
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take off and transform and you get
on there consists didn't like at six fifteen
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in the morning. I don't know
how. Let me tell y'all how you
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do that? Ty get on their
honey, she'll have a glow, got
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a pajama still on. It is
nothing in the world that would make me
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want to do that. Listen,
I'd be looking crazy in the morning,
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okay, honey with the lockbond.
I got a lock bond it Okay.
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So look, I don't even want
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you have really taken this and transformed
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Live, but now it desponding to
a monthly meetup which I said I'm coming
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to while I'm here, i'mist say
it on camera, so I actually show
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up, hold her accountable. And
then a retreat. You just completed your
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first retreat International treat in Bali and
God is God is showing out. God
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is showing out and showing up in
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an incredible partnership with BT that is
going to become an annual partnership over our
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time. So we did our largest
hike to date that had more than three
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hundred people traveling in from as far
as London and Jamaica and other places around
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the country to hike and have this
experience. And it's called a hike and
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experience for a reason, Brandy,
because people think, like, is it
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just me showing up to hike with
Thai. It's a piece of it,
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but it really is a transformational wellness
an integrated wellness experience. So we have
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four key pillars of Morning mindst with
time. It is affirm move so you
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affirm yourself, you affirm others around
you, You affirm the presence of God
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or Spirit, and you know whatever
that is for you is God for me
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and then you move your body,
you move that energy, and then you
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connect with self, you connect with
those around you, connect with spirit,
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God and nature, and then you
reset to do it all over again.
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And these are pillars, but they're
also principles that have ultimately helped me to
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go from this space of you know, floundering to thriving that I want to
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share with women. And the movement
piece is so important because you know,
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we think about fitness as a part
of wellness, but wellness is really you
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know, multi pronged and spiritual wellness. It's communal, you know, it's
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the idea of being in community,
which is really important for us. It
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is, you know, how you
talk to yourself, how you talk to
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others, how you really appreciate the
space that you're in. And it's just
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been incredible to see this grow,
I mean on a on a monthly basis.
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With our hiking experiences that we host
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people every single month that join us. We are having our second event on
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the beach, so we're taking the
hiking part and taking it to walking on
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the beach and hiking is metaphorical for
life. That was the other reason why
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I wanted people to join in that
it's one foot behind the other. It's
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one step at a time, one
step forward at a time. You might
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have to pant, you might have
to re establish or footing, you might
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have to pause, you might feel
wobbly, or you might feel super strong
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in an authority in that you might
have to reach back to your friend or
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sister and say, help me forward, or push the next person you know
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forward. So that's what hiking has
done for me. It transformed my body,
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but it also transformed my mindset and
it's been incredible to just see how
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it's grown. We had our first
retreat in Bali. We had twenty six
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women fly over from the United States, black women ranging in age from seventeen
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all the way up to sixty five, so it's an intergenerational thing. We
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have our second retreat happening in Jamaica
January tenth through the fifteenth, So you
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can go to Morning mindsetw't high dot
com to find out more about that.
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Arizona and probably Bally again at the end
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of twenty twenty four. Yeah,
so all this came from you floundering about,
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like what the heck is going on
from floundering about, floundering all around
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to flying around the world, flying
to sorry. And I think that that's
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a testament because so many people we
can it's stuck, right, and we
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stay stuck for a long time.
And some folks have been stuck eighteen years
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on the couch, stuck in a
situation, just stuck. And so what
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was that one thing outside of you
saying I'm gonna start hiking, how can
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women really start to kind of see
their way through those moments when they're floundering
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about. Well, I think it
starts for me with God. And so
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my decision to really renew my relationship
with God, to reimagine my relationship with
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God, and this you know again
this happened. Is the other thing is
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this is metaphorical for life. What
did that look like for you? It
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so literally what morning mindset was was
me getting up, going into prayer and
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worship. So prayer and worship,
I literally put on a playlist that I
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can totally share with you by yourself, and I be all the way in
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worship. Some of y'all think y'all
gott to go to the church. Listen,
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is you you right there? You
are to church? All the way
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in worship, and then I would
put that on while I hiked. So
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in those moments when my foot got
wobbly, God helped me to make this
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step. And so it was spirit
first, but then it was also you
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talked about earlier, like some of
it was a reflection on where I had
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been, because oftentimes when we get
to this place and we think we're at
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a plateau where we're feeling like we're
in the valley, we forget sometimes that
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we've had similar experiences in the past, that God carried us through and that
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we walked through, and that we
had the confidence and the assuredness or the
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resilience to actually press through. And
so it was reflecting on that, and
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so I would have praise and worship
every single morning. Then I sat down
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and I would read a Yalla until
Today, and I would read some other
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devotionals, and I would journal,
and then it was also just being intentional
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about the people I connected with,
because everyone is not going to be for
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you in every single season, So
there are some people that are just not
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going to be the ones that you
need to have with you as you're going
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through that next thing. And so
if you're in the state. And I'm
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going to look at the the camera
and say this. If you're in a
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place right now where you know that
God is calling you to transform, the
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first thing is to pause, stop, get connected with yourself and God spiritually,
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start asking yourselves very difficult questions and
you know, being intentional about how
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you study and who you connect with, so that way you can then be
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illuminated for yourself around what comes next. You know, yeah, you really
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tap into And I love this because
you get to define what God or Spirit
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looks like for you right And one
of my favorite books is Discover the Power
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Within You by Eric Butterworth. And
I think that so many people were looking
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forward outside of ourselves to show up
that there's going to be something that the
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trump is gonna sound, this guy's
gonna open up, and here it is.
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Don't wait for that, and that's
it. Yeah, you have to
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do that's the part. Yeah,
don't wait for that. But I also
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think that that's unfortunately part of the
cultural conditioning that we've had in the past.
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And historically, you know, we
carry the faith of our ancestors,
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but our faith you know, looks
different, and you know, we have
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to choose because the environments are different, the circumstances are different. You know,
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if you think about the faith of
my grandmother, that looked very different
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being a woman that was born in
nineteen twenty nine in Kelfort, North Carolina.
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You know what I mean, and
you know in the circumstances that she
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was born into. And so we
have to redefine that same faith. And
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now I'm not saying that the faith
itself changes, but we have to redefine
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what that faith looks like for us
and to us and how we tap into
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it. I love church, and
so I actually enjoy going to church,
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but I know that that's not for
some people, which is why you know,
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I always say, even on morning
mindset, you don't have to believe
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what I'm a believe, but you
will know what I believe. You will
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know what I believe, and you
don't have to And I try and create
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that that invitation in that space for
people to come in and not feel judged,
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because that's the other thing that I
will say is terribly challenging about Christianity.
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Quite frank that I've I've struggled with
my whole life, but I also
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have felt not struggle with personally,
but struggled with understanding. But I was
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also fortunate. You know, I
have a lesbian aunt who would have you
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know, been considered queer, who
helped, really helped me be exposed to
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the creative world. She took me
to the West Village when I was five
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years old and it was it was
nuts. I said, Mommy, you
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let me go with her. She
was like, you wanted to go?
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I was like, okay, girl, right, I you know I had
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I had a Pentecostal grandmother who was
an evangelist. I had another grandmother I
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went to another grand Mary was you
know, Baptist, but it was more
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you know, Methodist than Baptists.
I went to Catholic school. My sister's
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Jewish, you know, I have
a half sister's Jewish. My uncle's Muslim.
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So I grew up exposed to all
of this and knew to love them.
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And I also knew when my uncle
took me to the masch did or
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when I went to the temple with
my little sister and her family, the
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principals were the same. They are
the same. Love, be loved,
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you know, treat you with kindness
you want to be treated. It's all
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the same things. So when we
you know, my pastor, says Pastor
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Mike Waldron of First Corinthian Baptist Church
in New York City, says it all
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the time. We have so many
people that are are so obsessed and more
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concerned about what the doctrine says,
opposed to the life that Christ lived.
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And Christ as the carpenter, went
everywhere, yeah, you know, and
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met people where they were. And
so I think I'm kind of being used
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in that way, I hope,
whether or not it's on a beach or
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in a club, no kidding,
but but it is the truth is the
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truth, because no matter where we
show up, we're really just called to
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be demonstrators, demonstrators of God's love, of his grace, of you know,
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the glory of what it is.
And so I think that's a testament
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to who you are. And you
say this that you really bring your life
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to your work, and this is
your purpose is to bring people and illuminate,
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help them to see the light that's
already there inside of their own lives.
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That is my calling, yea,
that is my calling. I recently
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started saying that I'm a joy sharer
and a love depositor. You know,
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I want to spread and share joy. And I want to deposit love wherever
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I go and I want people to
feel that. And you know, it's
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always so interesting too, because they're
like, oh, but you know,
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how can you be a boss woman
and do that? You know, all
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of my emails, whether or not
it's going to a CEO of a company.
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You know, whether or not I'm
texting with some of my dearest friends
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who live in the c suites of
major organizations, it says, with gratitude,
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or whether or not I'm you know, speaking to my best friend,
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it says, with gratitude. And
you know, I think this is the
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other thing that's really important for us
as black women. Our fullness might not
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be okay for everyone, but it
is to the benefit of everyone, you
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see what I mean, Like,
we can't leave pieces of ourselves anywhere.
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And you know that doesn't mean that
every space is going to be uote unuote
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ready for all of you. Yeah, that's not for you to think about.
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Yeah, but you learned that at
a very early age. You said
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that learning coming from a mother who
had you at a very young age,
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being raised in three different households because
of your grandparents and their influence in your
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life. You said you learned very
early that you couldn't show up as your
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full self in all of those spaces. It was different in each space.
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I think they loved me, but
there were different expectations at each place.
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They loved me fully, though,
and I think that that was the thing.
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I you know, there were different
rules. One of the things that
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growing up funny story like growing up
in my father's family's house with my with
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my paternal grandparents. You know,
my grandmother was a homemaker, so she
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stayed at home and she washed clothes
every single day, So you got a
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new towel and a new wash house
every single day, and you just left
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it, you know, at the
top of the stairs because she was going
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to take it down and do laundry, probably in twenty five minutes. Yeah.
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And when I when I moved it, they would go to my mom's
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house. They were like, what
you better picked that up and put that
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in the hamper. They're working women, They're not doing laundry until the weekend.
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And they were single at that.
Yeah, but you know, I
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learned to I think what I what
I can say now is that different parts
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of me were nurtured more holistically in
each home, you know, So I
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think about it with my grandmother Mary, who will forever be my first soulmate.
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She indeed was my first soulmate.
She let me be as creative and
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as vocal as I wanted to be
and needed to be so much. So,
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you know, because I did talk
a lot, I had a lot
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to say, even I would never
gather a lot to say is good?
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And I went to Catholic school,
so they were like, you know,
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she would say, you know,
I would get called in and I remember
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my grandmam and my mom going to
school and and them saying, you know,
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well she challenges a thora. And
my grandmother said, well, was
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is she disrespectful? Is she rude? And They're like, no, she
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just asked a lot of questions.
And my Grandma's like, well, we
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encourage her to do that at home. So I had that there, whereas
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at you know, my parental my
paternal grandparents' house. My grandmother was you
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know, the Pentecosta Evangelists. You
know, it was more like, you
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know, it's a lot of rules, a lot of right, a lot
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of rules, and expect you had
to wear your long skirt and I'll make
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up. Yeah, well, I
mean I was a baby. She didn't.
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She passed when I was eight,
But she was that woman, you
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know, So there were there were
rules and hard expectations, but love.
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And I think that that's that's at
the end of the day, what I'm
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grateful for is, you know,
I had all of this love my mom
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because she was a young mom was
more like a sister to me. You
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know, she always present, always
always present. But she was the one
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who brought me the fly. You
know, when the Jordans came out,
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I had the Jordans. You know, she was that she took me to
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you know art, you know,
art galleys, and I remember, you
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know, when she was younger and
single, I would go out on dates
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with her, like it was it
was that went out on dates with your
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mother. Yeah, because if if
I was with her that weekend, what
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I mean, if she wanted to
spend time with me, so if somebody
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wanted to take her out, it's
like you're taking me and my baby too,
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So we you know, and and
it's and it's nice to actually reminisce
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about those moments because I think oftentimes
we're even in relationships today, we're looking
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for all of the nurturing from one
person, and what you realize is that
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you need different people to kind of
be sources in different ways. So yeah,
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but that was it was, it
was, It was interesting. But
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I think that they each deposited something
really special that and necessary, that helped
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to kind of make me who I
am. And you know, my grandparents
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are all gone now and have transitioned, and I'm sure they're proud. Oh
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yeah, I actually proud. So
I'm grateful for that. Absolutely. You've
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you've normalized therapy in your conversations and
you've been very very vocal about your therapy
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journey. And so how has your
journey in therapy played into the relationship with
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your mother? Oh? Wow,
therapy has played into it. My trip
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00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:20.640
to Bali has played into it.
But let's talk about the therapy part,
489
00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:23.799
you know, because Balie really has
did something for me. Did she go,
490
00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:27.640
No, she didn't go, but
she did say she's coming to Jamaica
491
00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:35.119
hopefully. So I started therapy for
the first time when I was twenty five,
492
00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:38.039
when I had that big job.
Good for you and I because I
493
00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:43.559
was I was I was going that
crazy. That was good crazy like it
494
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:46.279
was. It was a crazy time
for me. You know, trying to
495
00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:50.160
run that business. I also was
engaged at the time, so I was
496
00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:54.839
in a relationship trying to navigate doing
that and and frontal lobe still developing.
497
00:33:55.079 --> 00:33:59.599
Check girl, girl. I was
like, what is this? Is this
498
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:01.880
what's the supposed to be happening in
adult in my adult life? Is this
499
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:07.840
what it is? So I started
therapy at twenty five and then I remember,
500
00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:12.079
you know, going back again when
I when I became a caregiver to
501
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:15.559
my grandmother, and I remember actually
saying to my mom, I wanted her
502
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:20.840
to go in at that time too, because she was a care giver to
503
00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:24.719
my grandm She was the primary and
the two of us together, and you
504
00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:30.159
know, I talked a lot about
origin story. You know, I don't
505
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:32.559
speak very much about my father,
even though I lived in the house with
506
00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:37.360
him. He was also quite young
when I was born, but his parents
507
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:43.280
were my parents. He wasn't he
wasn't equipped to be a parent, and
508
00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:47.440
it's still struggling with his own journey. And I have I have four siblings
509
00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:52.199
as from my father. I'm my
mother's only child, so there's a lot
510
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:59.400
there. So therapy helped me address, you know, both the origin story
511
00:34:59.480 --> 00:35:04.559
and you know, childhood trauma and
childhood wounds that we all have, and
512
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:07.719
it's not about like releasing yourself from
them. It's more about understanding them,
513
00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:13.760
and in particular in the relationship with
my mother, because as I said,
514
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:19.039
my mother's always been incredibly present.
My Mom's a fantastic woman. But now
515
00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:22.360
that I am a grown woman with
full frontal lobe development, I have a
516
00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:27.880
different level of appreciation and understanding for
her journey. Absolutely, and I think
517
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:31.079
that that's what therapy has helped me
to do a lot of It's helped me
518
00:35:31.159 --> 00:35:37.599
to process my own feelings about situations
and circumstance and my own understanding to grow
519
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:45.360
them. But it's also giving me
greater tools and understanding around what real empathy
520
00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:50.519
looks like and what compassion really looks
like. What did it look like before
521
00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:57.760
before therapy, I think it was
just dismissive. It was very NRK in
522
00:35:57.840 --> 00:36:01.119
certain relationships. I think I could
always have it with people in the world,
523
00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:06.719
but I think sometimes we struggle.
We might have certain certain you know,
524
00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:08.840
ways of operating with people in the
world, and then sometimes we come
525
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:13.239
back to home, and you know, it's a little bit different because then
526
00:36:13.239 --> 00:36:16.719
we're carrying the weight and the burden
of or the responsibility or the pain or
527
00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:22.360
the disappointment of what is personal to
us. And so you know, I
528
00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:28.760
think historically when I think about the
evolution of even my relationship with my father,
529
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:32.599
which is not necessarily a relationship,
just more forgiveness and more acceptance and
530
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:39.360
more like real unconditional love, where
I just I'm praying for his journey,
531
00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:43.559
I'm praying for his healing and his
life, and I'm just so grateful that
532
00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:47.480
I'm here. But now I just
have I have more compassion and I'm able
533
00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:50.760
to ask like, well, what
does that feel like to you? What
534
00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:53.400
does that mean to you? And
I think therapy helps you to step outside
535
00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:59.960
of yourself, to get back into
yourself for sure, And yeah, I
536
00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:05.000
highly recommend it, and not just
you know, therapy or coaching to work
537
00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:07.519
on our emotional selves. You need
that support spiritually, like I'm going to
538
00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:10.760
coach for every aspect of my life. Yeah, you know, fitness,
539
00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:16.880
wellness, you know, spiritual business, you know. And and it also
540
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:22.679
is it's great to have mirrors who
are you know, completely objective, because
541
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:25.800
when you talk to some people,
you're gonna get their subjective thoughts and opinions
542
00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:31.480
and that only adds color rather than
you know, illuminating and gives you this
543
00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:37.760
magnifying lives. I was thirty four
when I when I first set foot in
544
00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:40.239
therapy, and I will have to
say I knew it twenty two that I
545
00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:44.760
needed to go. Really, I
knew it twenty two. And I remember
546
00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:47.440
I had just graduated from college,
I moved out to Los Angeles and I
547
00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:52.360
remember standing in the room with my
dad. I was like, I need
548
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:54.760
therapy, Like I just I feel
like I need to talk to somebody.
549
00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:59.320
And my dad said, and I
tell this story in my book. Black
550
00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:01.920
people don't have time for that.
We don't have time for that. Just
551
00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:08.039
get over it. Yeah. And
how many of us heard that same kind
552
00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:12.960
of story, that same kind of
response and said, oh wait, I
553
00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:15.559
don't need it. I just need
to get over it. And I spent
554
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:19.280
so many years just trying my best
to get over it. And baby I
555
00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:22.039
was I couldn't. I didn't know
how to. I didn't have the tools
556
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:27.320
because I thought, coming from a
very religious background, that I'm gonna pray
557
00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:29.199
about it. And I got the
scriptures and I got the end of so
558
00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:31.800
I'm gonna just go to church every
week and make sure I tie and it's
559
00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:36.360
gonna reveal itself. But it never
work like that. It does not.
560
00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:37.719
You gotta go do that word,
You gotta do that, right. So
561
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:42.000
what what was the catalyst in at
thirty four to make you go? If
562
00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:45.239
it was if there was this twelve
year gap of you like telling your dad
563
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:49.760
I need it. It was a
text message from my dad and it was
564
00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:54.039
in March, and I said,
you gotta go now because this has triggered
565
00:38:54.039 --> 00:38:59.400
you in such a way that it
took my whole day out. And because
566
00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:04.079
it took my whole day, I
said, you don't have the time to
567
00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:07.719
have your whole day taken by somebody, and you allow that. And I
568
00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:13.480
went into therapy. I called,
I said I'm ready and I didn't look
569
00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:15.360
back. And so are you a
once a week, once every two weeks,
570
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:20.320
or you need it? I was
a once a week for from that
571
00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:24.000
was like twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, once a week until this year.
572
00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:29.480
Yeah, me too, until this
year. And now I go as needed.
573
00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:35.159
I'm an as needed person. I'm
as needed because I went from every
574
00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:37.599
week to then I was going two
times a month, every other week,
575
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:39.320
and I was like Oh, this
is good. And then I got to
576
00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:42.800
a point where I was like,
you got the tools baby going out there.
577
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:45.880
Ye just swell. And I also
think, you know, the other
578
00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:49.679
thing about the that was, you
know, the therapist's you know, client
579
00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:52.800
relationship is that as you grow,
you might need to grow to you Absolutely
580
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:57.320
therapy, absolutely. And I know
people that I have been with the same
581
00:39:57.400 --> 00:40:00.320
person for like ten and fifteen years, I've like, I think I'm be
582
00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:04.559
sired of talking to him, but
no, but I honestly and I love,
583
00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:07.320
I love my therapist. But I
honestly think that that was when the
584
00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:10.480
shift, the shift has started,
because I think that there's other things that
585
00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:14.360
I want to work through and work
on. And I don't know if I
586
00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:16.679
think that we've come to you know, a conclusion, you know, in
587
00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:22.559
our relationship. Yeah, I if
you don't have a therapist, I mean
588
00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:25.039
there are so many resources now too. Yeah, Therapy for Black Girls.
589
00:40:25.079 --> 00:40:29.559
I have put that in my newsletter
multiple times. It has helped so many
590
00:40:29.639 --> 00:40:31.639
of my friends find their therapists by
using therapy for Black girls. Therapy for
591
00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:37.079
black girl, black girl doctor is
another world. Yeah, there are there
592
00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:43.119
is a wealth of opportunity to find
someone and Also, I just think I
593
00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:45.159
think the other day, I just
want to reiterate the reason why the therapist
594
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:50.719
is so good because they're trained to
understand how the mind works too, which
595
00:40:50.760 --> 00:40:54.239
is very different than talking to your
best friend. We love her, she
596
00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:58.079
great. Listen, shout out to
you, Yasmin and Nada love you,
597
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:00.000
guys, love you. But you
know, they know all about Tashan.
598
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:06.000
They didn't heard about Tashan for the
last ten years. They about Shan exactly.
599
00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:09.559
It's like they don't want to hear
nothing else about about him. So
600
00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:13.840
yeah, so it's like it's a
different thing. You're a different thing,
601
00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:17.679
it is. Yeah. So I
love that you. I feel like your
602
00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:23.559
evolution has been in front of people
and you've never shied away from that.
603
00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:28.519
And I think that's what makes your
journey so special is because you've always kind
604
00:41:28.519 --> 00:41:30.400
of lived. There's this open book
and as I'm going through, maybe I'm
605
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:34.800
gonna take you on the journey,
let's go, let's go where we go?
606
00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:39.360
Yeah, And I think that that
speaks to your I think it speaks
607
00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:44.360
to the sisterhood right because you grew
up, you went to all girls high
608
00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:47.320
school, your spell and graduate and
you really feel like your duty is to
609
00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:52.679
support women. And I think when
people see your journey, it's almost like
610
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:54.000
this is how I'm supporting you.
This I'm showing up for you. I
611
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:58.960
want you to show for yourself.
Though. Yeah, it's it's incredible.
612
00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:04.159
I I I just that's that's the
God be knowing part, you know,
613
00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:07.639
about like how we're meant to be
U. Yes, right, even if
614
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:14.400
it's in different facets of business,
different enterprises like how I But I also
615
00:42:14.480 --> 00:42:19.719
just believe in the power of women. I know it personally because I saw
616
00:42:19.920 --> 00:42:22.199
my grandmother, you know, take
care of her mother, help take care
617
00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:25.000
of me and go to college,
go to graduate school. You know,
618
00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:30.840
your grandmother, my grandmother, Mary
was a beast, okay, and then
619
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:35.360
I saw her, you know,
promote and pushed my mom to do the
620
00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:38.519
same. You know. My mom
became a homeowner at thirty five years old
621
00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:44.000
while in graduate school, and you
know, completed college as an adult like
622
00:42:44.360 --> 00:42:46.760
you know, and didn't we didn't
get all the things right all the time,
623
00:42:47.239 --> 00:42:52.000
but that's what that's what nurtured me. And I also saw the difference
624
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:55.800
with them and my grandmother in particular, my grandmother had had a tribe of
625
00:42:55.800 --> 00:43:00.079
girlfriends that religiously. I don't know
how to do this. Every Sunday before
626
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:02.360
Sunday school, they were on the
phone. I'm like, y'all going to
627
00:43:02.400 --> 00:43:06.679
see each other at church, Like
why you're on the phone now, But
628
00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:09.840
like you know, I saw that
network and what that meant. And I
629
00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:14.280
think growing up going to an all
girls high school in Nork, New Jersey,
630
00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:16.199
the only one in North New Jersey, shout out to Saint Vincent Academy
631
00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:22.440
and then Spelman just really helped me
to They were reflections but different, you
632
00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:27.960
know, different types of reflections.
And so I just believe in us and
633
00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:32.079
when I see us and I know
our pains, but I know our triumphs
634
00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:37.480
too. I know our possibilities.
I know that on different levels, and
635
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:43.280
I just feel called to to share
and support and deposit where I can.
636
00:43:43.320 --> 00:43:45.239
But I also let me just say
this, sh'all, I'm ready to receive.
637
00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:50.000
Do so listen, listen, because
you're dropping all these love deposits.
638
00:43:50.360 --> 00:43:52.960
And I was asking, who's dropping
these love deposits? How is your tribe
639
00:43:53.000 --> 00:43:57.800
dropping those love deposits in your life? Well, my tribe does a great
640
00:43:57.880 --> 00:44:00.880
job, you know, my sisterhood
does a great your job, I I
641
00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:04.840
gotta acknowledge, and I can rattle
off some names. I don't want to
642
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:07.559
miss anybody, but Yasmine. Her
name is Yasmine. I call her Yasmin,
643
00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:15.400
Nadia, Mashanda, Kimmy, Kelly, Jennifer, that I Natalie.
644
00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:19.920
I have my business partner, Malika, you know, brown girl Jane.
645
00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:22.639
I have a tribe, you know. And I'm really really grateful for how
646
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:27.360
they show up. Now. I'm
ready for the love, uh, the
647
00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:31.920
blessed love partner and life partner,
because I think that that's different too,
648
00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:36.760
and so I'm ready for that.
What does that look like for you?
649
00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:40.159
I just I interviewed doctor Stacy J. Johnson. Uh. She has the
650
00:44:40.199 --> 00:44:44.639
program Just Day Girl, but she
has a program called I Want a good
651
00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:47.800
Man University. I want a good
man I want I want. I want
652
00:44:47.800 --> 00:44:57.360
a great, blessed, outstanding,
loving, honest, god fearing, connected,
653
00:44:58.039 --> 00:45:05.880
patient, generous, fun. Yeah, you know, but someone who
654
00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:07.719
also wants to build. Like that's
the other thing. It's like, you
655
00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:10.760
get to this place in life.
And I'm happy that I took off the
656
00:45:10.760 --> 00:45:15.239
Superwoman cape sometime ago, even though
I think I still do a little bit
657
00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:23.039
too much sometimes. But I also
believe that when God blesses me with this
658
00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:28.360
person when they enter my life for
that reason, and in that season,
659
00:45:29.159 --> 00:45:32.599
everything else that we are meant to
do in this earth and on this planet
660
00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:38.079
and in this time is going to
be multiplied and elevated for sure, because
661
00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:40.880
one of the things I came to
realize. And this is also, you
662
00:45:40.920 --> 00:45:45.280
know, different from sometimes the generation's
past, where there is this thought that
663
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:50.199
I don't need anyone, which I'm
like, no, I need something.
664
00:45:50.440 --> 00:45:53.440
I do. Hey, you,
I need you, all right, you
665
00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:57.960
look into your kid, Well,
why don't we look into this. We
666
00:45:58.000 --> 00:46:01.559
need you, we need you,
we need you. I need you.
667
00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:06.599
But I do believe like and I
feel that even I have my godsons.
668
00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:10.800
Yes, yes, means two boys
had them last week, and I saw
669
00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:15.519
that on your story. I have
eight god children and I love them to
670
00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:19.440
peace. But I had my two
oldest godsons last week, and I feel
671
00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:25.119
so much more grounded when that love
anchors me, and even more capable and
672
00:46:25.239 --> 00:46:30.039
even more dynamic. Quite frankly,
you know, it's a beautiful thing to
673
00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:32.480
know that when they're there too.
Thirty while they're there that week, I
674
00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:36.519
shut off work so I have to
be productive because then the rest of the
675
00:46:36.519 --> 00:46:42.199
time is their time. So I
just feel like it's when when God places
676
00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:45.760
him. He's working on him right
now, he's getting him ready. When
677
00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:51.079
he's getting him ready, I know
you're getting ready, get ready, because
678
00:46:51.079 --> 00:46:55.840
I'm also in my forties. Two
child, take you out. No listen,
679
00:46:57.199 --> 00:47:06.000
she is going to love you.
She said, way you listen because
680
00:47:06.039 --> 00:47:07.800
we there. Honey, listen,
you are not alone. I am here
681
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:13.760
with you. With the words of
Michael Jackson, Hello, Hello, listen
682
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:17.480
as we wrap up this interview,
because like I know, I could talk
683
00:47:17.519 --> 00:47:21.599
to you all. We can really
go on all day. We're really good.
684
00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:25.000
What are you committed to? What
is tie committed to in this season?
685
00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:29.079
In this season right now, I
am committed to making room for love.
686
00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:31.880
That really is I'm committed to that. I remain committed to my calling,
687
00:47:31.960 --> 00:47:37.639
but in my purpose, committed to
making room for love and you know,
688
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:43.199
nurturing that relationship with God and self. I'm also like, I'm in
689
00:47:43.239 --> 00:47:46.000
this space of just like wanting to
feel all joy like it it's interesting,
690
00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:51.039
like what what is going to make
life easier? What are going to be
691
00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:53.840
the things that are going to bring
those moments of joy and ease and so
692
00:47:55.480 --> 00:48:00.400
yeah, joy and ease, more
love and your love one the love,
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the love. Well, you know
what I want more love to. Yeah,
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and it shows up in so many
different ways, and even in the
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seasons that it shows up, how
it gives to us in those seasons.
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Yeah. So one word that you
are living by right now, God's grace.
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Well that's two, okay, Grace, Grace, Grace even in the
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valleys, even in the valley,
it's grace. Really in the valley,
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that's when we do it the most. It's the grace. What about you,
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what's your one word? My word
right now is honestly love, Like
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I really, I have affirmations on
my mirror, and I live in the
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overflow. I live in the overflow
of love. I live in the abundance
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of love. It's all around me. So I live by that because it
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doesn't miss me, and I don't
miss miss it. There a church,
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I want to thank you for joining
me today. I know we really could
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have done like two hours worth of
conversation. I feel like we're going to
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part two when she comes, because
I feel like, you know, she
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might be there for homecoming weekend or
something, and it might be a new
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love. It's always in your mouth
set. Look, look, then we're
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gonna have to come back and do
a praise report. Okay, it might
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be her love is at homecoming this
year. So look, I want to
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thank the beautiful Tie Beauchamp for joining
me. Ty you want to tell them
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your Instagram totally do I okay,
yep, perfect tybo Shamp and my Instagram
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is at tybo at t A I
b e a U. Also at Morning
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Mindset with Tie, and we didn't
talk about Brown Girl Jane, but also
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at it's Brown Girl Jane. So
that way we can scent your life for
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all the things. Listen, we
did not talk about lot. We covered
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a lot of ground, didn't.
I felt like it was I mean,
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it was what my spirit leading on
this Friday. I think you things.
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I love you, Tye. I
love that. Until next time you guys,
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make sure you follow Tie. Follow
more Morning Mindset with Tie. Also
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Your got a new Discovery sets.
It's six actually it's a six cents,
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so get that extra one because you
know, and they're meant to layered,
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because we know that black layered and
we're winning all the Fragrance Awards and
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it's a really exciting time. So
I'm really they are beautiful and you can
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see it. You're probably gonna get
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on your Instagram. Thank you for
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Empowered Talks. We hope you gain
valuable insights and inspiration from our conversation today.
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Remember, the journey to success is
not a solitary one. Surround yourself
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with knowledge, cultivate your passion,
and take both steps towards your goals.
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There's always something new to learn and
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tuned for more captivating interviews with top
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