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Previously on Vaught and Powers with the one and only
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Steve Harvey. Four shows a day. You are doing morning radio,
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then going in and taping four shows.
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I didn't come from a place that breathes success. I
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would write a new five to ten minutes every week.
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They were having serious discussions. Was I the right person
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for the job?
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It looks very similar to.
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America's Got Talent.
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It looks very similar.
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It is America's Got Talent.
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It's the same show.
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He said, watch how they come up to you. Steve!
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What's up, man? In the 90s, you had to have
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a 7.0. That's the Oprah. To be a hit. Here's
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what really happened.
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He said, I'll take his whole TV career. I could
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see the lives that was affected.
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You, your sister, your brother.
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You put Marjorie back in my path, just in the
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nick of time. If you strike out to accomplish anything
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of value, you better get this through your head. You
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have to jump. I'm out here trying to pour something
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into people that I've learned.
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Welcome to Vaughton Powers Talks, continuing the wonderful conversation with
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my father, the one and only, Steve Harvey. Everywhere I go,
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somebody says, I don't care, 8 to 80. They 96.
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My grandmother, my auntie, my cousin, I love watching your daddy.
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It don't matter white, black. It don't matter the color.
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It's been probably the biggest blessing Work-wise, my whole career.
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Because it made me household. It made me household. I
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had two sitcoms before. I had a radio show. But
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nothing has made me more household than Family Feud. Because
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those clips go everywhere. There is nowhere in this world
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I can go. Nowhere.
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And they don't know me. You know, which is.
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A blessing and a curse. Yeah.
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You know, I saw online one time this dude said,
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it is a blessing to be tired of the things
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you asked the universe for. It is a blessing to
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be tired. I'm exhausted from all he's given me. But
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I asked for it. Yeah. Now I'm tired.
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So I just don't complain much.
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You can't complain about what all was on your plate
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when your whole goal was to eat. You know, I
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remember when I was hungry, when I had nothing, when
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I just wished I had some gigs. I wished I
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had a TV show. Well, now I got plenty of them.
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Family Feud took you global. You did Family Feud Africa.
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That was my idea.
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I know.
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I was told not to do that.
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Why? You can't make money in Africa. I said, well,
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you know, I'm going to make enough to do the show.
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I just think it'll be great.
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South Africa, it's time to play.
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And it was.
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It was great for Ghana. It was great for South Africa.
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It was great for Botswana. Yeah. And I did it
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because I wanted to show them that you could do
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an American-based TV show with American format. You could do
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it in Africa. Because Africa is everything, man. Everything.
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Africa is everything. It's just that they're so busy holding
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them back.
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See, the thing about holding a person down is you
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got to be down there to hold them down. Black
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people know how to deal. That's been one of the
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things that.
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Has helped me out the most in my career and
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in my life in general.
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I know how to suffer. I've mastered suffering.
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Is that good or bad, though, Dad?
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It's good and bad.
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Yeah.
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I've learned how to suffer so well. I have a
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mask on a lot of times when I don't feel
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like putting it on. It has cost me because I've
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ground myself down, man.
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I don't want myself out, man, with all of this.
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But had I not known how to suffer, I would
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have broken by now.
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Yeah, but I think, too, that suppressing, you know, it
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shows up and the body keeps the score and it
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shows up in so many different ways. And you've overcome
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a lot of health challenges.
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Yeah, my back right now.
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I know that's OK now.
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You know, as long as I'm sitting here. But when
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I get up, I'll know then, you know, I've had
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a lot of. I had some health issues, man, because
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I just been.
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I mean, pre-diabetic, you had the sleep apnea.
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I had severe sleep apnea. Got rid of that.
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Yeah. Pre-diabetic, got rid of that. You know, I'm a
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fighter too now. And plus, I'm smart.
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I will listen to my doctors, but I take more
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of a holistic approach. I listen to medical physicians to
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a degree. They specialize in treatment. I want to fix it. See,
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treatment is to get you a CPAC machine.
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That's the treatment. No, man, I don't want to sleep
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on this machine. I slept on that machine for four months.
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Miserable.
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Oh, wonderful night's sleep, but I hated that. So I
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got me a holistic guy. He said, hey, man, you
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can get rid of that. He said, you get on
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this oxygen bag for 20 minutes every morning, and if
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you cold plunge from three to six minutes.
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I'm an extremist, so.
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I cold plunged 247 days in a row at six minutes.
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No more sleep after.
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Gone.
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But you changed your diet. You lost some weight.
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I masked this weight. Yeah, I got money.
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I just make bigger suits.
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Yeah, yeah, okay.
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Ain't no problem.
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But I want you to talk because there's so many
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black men who look at you as an example, as
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somebody who was an inspiration. And your health is very
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important to you.
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Yeah, but man, brothers got to understand, you got to
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go to these doctors. I know you don't want to
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go down there. I know you don't want to check up,
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but you have to go. And these women that's got
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these men, y'all usually the only.
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Ones can make them go. Yeah.
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Even if they hear me saying that they might not go.
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You got to help your man because in our stubbornness.
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All right.
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So I'm all right.
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No, man, you got to go to your doctor, get
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it checked out. If I didn't know it, that I
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was getting pre-diabetic. Well, I go to the doctor because
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I get my blood work done all the time. Right.
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Well, once I found that out, then I changed my diet. Now,
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my doctors, they don't go too far now.
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Okay, how did they go too far?
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No gluten.
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No caffeine.
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No dairy. And no cigars for eight weeks. Now, that's
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about the most ignorant thing I've ever seen in my life.
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How's that no ice cream doing? Because you are an
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every night ice cream kind of guy.
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Every day.
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I don't even see why. I don't even see how
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you live without ice cream. So I eat non-dairy ice cream.
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They quit calling it ice cream. That's what they need
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to do. Cream of ice or something. Stop calling it
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ice cream because it is not real ice cream. The
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worst thing probably for me is the gluten.
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Because of all the breads and like the little cakes
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and pastry things that you like.
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Like if you've never had gluten before, just go outside.
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pick something off one of your bushes and just start
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eating it. No gluten, no caffeine, no cigars, no dairy.
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But I only got to the 25th and then I'm
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going to smoke 40 post cigars in one day.
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I know your doctors are so happy to hear that.
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The doctor in LA that told me to quit smoking,
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I was trying to make my last appointment to see him.
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He dead.
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Plot twist.
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And he don't smoke cigars.
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How did he die?
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I don't know, but he probably died from no gluten.
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That'll kill you.
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I mean, you have so many people around you that
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help you. And I think so many, I think there
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are people who are watching who will be like, well,
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Steve Harvey got money.
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Money has nothing to do with it, man. You have
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to go to your doctor.
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Period. No matter what it costs.
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Especially men, man, because we so stubborn, we so headstrong, man.
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And prostate cancer is curable and avoidable.
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Yeah.
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You can get the warning signs. That PSA number's high.
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You can avoid it. You can make some corrective things.
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If you catch it early enough, you can cure it.
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You know, but we're dying at an alarming rate, man,
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because of our egos won't let us go down there.
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I'll be all right. That ain't nothing. No, it is something, man.
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And plus, you know, you want to live.
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You want to live.
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You know, you want to be here to see your
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grandkids and you want to be here to see You know,
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your sons and daughters turn into something. You want to
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see that. And, you know, I want to be healthy.
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You know, I don't want to be, like, old and
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need somebody. You know, like, I don't want to be.
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Ain't nobody washing me. So we need to just go
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and stay healthy. I just don't want that. So I'm
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going to stay healthy.
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I got a partner coming down here for my frat week.
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We got to make some preparations for him.
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Somebody has to wash him?
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I ain't heard that.
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Oh, okay.
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Well.
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Yeah, because you're going to need to stay home. I'm
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going to tell you right now, it's not fitting to
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be my turn. That's what it's not fitting to be.
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You know, it's 15 of us, 15 frat brothers, but
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it's not fitting to be my turn. Okay.
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It's not fitting to be my turn. Hey, you know,
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I was expecting the unexpected with you. I was prepared
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to just, you're going to say some things that nobody
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who's ever sat in a seat across from me is
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ever going to say.
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But why would I?
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I mean, you ain't never had nobody like me across
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from you. And you ain't never had your daddy across
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from you.
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I have not. That's why this is so special. You
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really host like a men's retreat with your friends down here.
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Yeah, I do.
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It's frat brothers that we've been in this friendship together for.
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52 years now. It's like my Christmas.
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Christmas used to be my favorite holiday until I started
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having kids and the kids started having kids. So now
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Christmas is for the kids and the grandkids. My Christmas
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is when my frat brothers come to town because these
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men knew me before I was anything. They met me
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in 1974. I remember it was a girl that we
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went to college with named Ida Washington. Oh, Ida.
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Ida told me, she said, can I talk to you
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for a minute? I said, yeah.
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She said, you don't belong here. I said, what you mean?
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She said, you don't belong in college. You should just leave.
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She said, because you have a gift that I've never
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seen in anybody before, and you need to go and explore.
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I said, well, what is it? She said, I don't know.
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But they don't have what you are down here. They
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don't have no course for you. And she was the
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first person that put that in my head. And I
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started understanding why college wasn't going well for me. I
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was just so disinterested because I just, the whole time
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I wanted to be on TV. The whole time I
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wanted to do something else. You know, Arsenio has a
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new book out.
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Yeah, his memoir's out.
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And Arsenio tells the whole story of me and him.
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And a lot of my friends.
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He used to sleep on our couch.
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Yeah.
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Arsenio, we was in college together. And we played on
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the same basketball team. We'd come to the gym and
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me and Arsenio would only talk about this dream we
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had of being entertainers and on TV. Arsenio didn't tell
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nobody and I ain't tell nobody. Well, then I flunked
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out of school. Everybody was saying, man, Wonder Love ain't
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coming back. Love ain't coming back to school.
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Because Wonder Love is your nickname.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. And I wasn't coming back. And it hurt a
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lot of brothers because I was that dude, man. I
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was the life of the party.
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I was action. I was all of that.
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You're him.
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I was the head of bus.
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Always been him.
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Always been him.
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Yeah, I was the spokesperson for bus, Black United Students.
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Were you?
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Yeah, man.
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Whenever they needed something, they used to call me Abernathy.
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I'd go in there and argue with the white folks.
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I love that.
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I'd go in there and get it done, man.
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Yeah, look at you. It'd be a little simple stuff like,
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Like our dormitory had a fund that we was allocated
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to each dorm. So all the white students voted on
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the ski trip. They raised their hand. Everybody going skiing. Well,
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the black kids, we sitting up there like, skiing? Dog,
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we ain't got no skis.
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It's more like Daytona.
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We don't have no ski racks. We don't have no skis.
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We ain't got no money for no lift. We ain't
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got no money for none of that. And I'm sitting
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there going, what are they talking about? So I said, well,
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while y'all on the ski trail, can we get $ 50
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out the budget, $ 100 out the budget to throw a party?
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And they said, no. Boy, them black people came and
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got me. They said, Steve, come here, man.
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Come on, Abernathy.
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Because you know how to talk to them.
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They told us we can't have $ 100.
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Boy, when I got through talking to them white kids and.
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Miss Treshawn, that old white lady.
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Yeah.
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I told him, I said, and let me explain something
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to you. I am personal friends with Reverend Jesse Jackson.
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I will have Jesse Jackson named down here on this campus.
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So fast, over $ 100. Okay, okay.
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Why would you do that?
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Because this is unfair.
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You told him that you knew Jesse Jackson?
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Yeah, I ain't never met Jesse Jackson. I ain't know
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Jesse Jackson.
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Jesse Jackson wouldn't know me.
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I don't know nobody. But I had put it in
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their head that I knew Jesse Jackson. And I was
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going to have him come down here.
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We was going to march.
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For that $ 100.
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Yeah. And it was so crazy because I said, we
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ain't asking y'all not to go skiing.
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I just, we don't ski. Yeah.
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Well, suppose we could help you all with a little
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bit of funding for it. No, no, we need all
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the funding. My daddy down here, he's going to send
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me $ 5.
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That's it. That's it.
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We don't need funding. We need money for the whole trip.
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And then one black dude, we don't want to ski.
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I said, there you have it. We don't even want
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to ski. So we ended up throwing a big party.
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So that was it. And then I got the money
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for us and we threw a party.
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It was everything.
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That friendship that I formed with those men stayed consistent
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for all these years. So when they come, it's the
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only people that I can sit around that know me
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and treat me the exact same.
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You know, I cater all the food. I bring them in.
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We all stay on the ranch in these houses.
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We smoke cigars, drink scotch, and we talk trash the
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whole time.
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Yeah. The whole time.
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But I think what's so powerful about that, Dad, and
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you probably don't even think about this part of the
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mental health of what that is for men, to be
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able to sit around with people out in nature, love
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on each other, care for each other. That's important.
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Well, you know, I mean, we actually watch our future.
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We got a health group and everybody call in. They
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got to do wellness checks.
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Yeah. We have weigh-in Wednesdays.
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Weigh-in Wednesdays?
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Everybody got to record their weight and send it in
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on Wednesdays.
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That's what's up.
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We got a special program. I have a fund that
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I set aside for the bros. Some of them less
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fortunate than me, right? So like if they got to
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get a prescription or they got to do something or
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they need some tests and they can't afford it, you
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can get it out to fund so nobody can go
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untested and nothing like that.
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You know, I had one partner, ma'am, who was just
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a true story.
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He was fourth stage kidney disease when he came here.
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Wow.
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Fourth stage kidney disease. He said, it's cool, but because
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I'm a pastor, I'm in line to be on dialysis next.
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I said, that's your plan, dog. Your plan is when
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your kidney give out, you next in line to be
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on dialysis.
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So I got him tested and everything.
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Next thing you know, he was down to stage one.
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Stage four, you finna go on dialysis, man. You ain't
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gonna be able to make this trip no more. Cause
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you got to plug up into that machine every so often.
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You ain't gonna make the trip. He got a sauna.
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He got the light panels. He got the cold plunge pool.
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He got everything. All of that out of the fun. So, brothers,
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you know, we take care of each other. And one
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of us slipping. You know, we in each other pretty bad.
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And they talk to each other kind of crazy.
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Oh, if you're in the group chat, we know it's
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going down.
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Oh, yeah.
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Then they got a group chat without me in it.
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Sure they do.
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They got one without me in it.
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Sure they do.
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And then we got one that don't have.
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Everybody has a group chat without you.
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And then we got a group chat where we don't
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have Pastor.
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Walt in it.
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Oh, so you can really just.
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And Pastor Shaft. And I don't know how either one
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of them is pastors.
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I really, really don't.
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I don't know what they're passing out badges for pastors at,
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but I don't know how Shaft and Walt is pastors.
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I didn't know they had pastor badges.
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Well, I don't... Well, how'd they become pastors? Because, man.
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If they knew who these dudes used to be, there's
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no way they could be pastors.
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But that's the testimony, how I got over.
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We was at one of the reunions.
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And I just asked Chef, I said, Chef, what you
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doing now?
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I'm a pastor. So I stopped, I looked at him,
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I started blinking. You what dog? He said, I'm a pastor.
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And then I just went out in the hallway and
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I told God, I think I can make it now.
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Because I was thinking I might not be doing enough
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to get into heaven.
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And you're like, I'm doing more than enough.
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But if Shaft is a pastor.
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Baby, I'm all right.
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I know I got a shot.
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I think it's so powerful because I think there are
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so many men who are watching that no matter where
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they are, no matter what they have, they got community.
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They got people around them that can love on them
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and support them.
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It's hard, you know, because for a long time I
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didn't have that.
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Yeah. Because when I was out chasing this thing that
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I've got now, this dream, I was out of touch
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with a lot of them. These cats done overcome.
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Yeah.
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It's cats now that's been sober for 23 years. I
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got one partner, man, that was just on crack. You know,
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they not playing.
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Yeah.
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You know, so them cats right there, man, they a
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little bit different. But that's what I need.
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Yeah.
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I like cats like that, man. We just have a
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good time.
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How important is this place to you? Because this is
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your piece. You told me before, all you want to
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do is fish at this part of your life.
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I mean, this place for me, I go up on
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the hill like yesterday. I just went up on the
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hill and rolled all the windows down and sat there
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for 20 minutes. Told God how much I appreciate it.
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When I was homeless, man, I was driving through Kentucky
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one time. I got real sleepy. So I just pulled
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over on the side of the road. It was just
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a route road, wasn't no highway. But across the street
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was this big rolling hills and a big house up
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on the hill. And it had white fence, horse fence
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all the way around. And I looked at that, man,
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I said, wow, how much money you got to have
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to have that much land with a house up on
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the hill and it was a pond down below. I said, man,
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I put some fish in there. I come down every
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morning and fish. And that put it in my head.
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When I started making some money, when I got out
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of that situation, I bought that place in Dallas.
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Which was beautiful.
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That's why I started the mentoring program from there. I
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kept that for a long time. Then I had to
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go to New York and start working with the radio show.
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Then I had to move to Chicago and start doing
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the talk show. While that was happening, then I bought
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the place in Atlanta. I said, man, I got to
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get me a ranch that's closer than this because I
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don't want to keep getting on a.
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Plane to go.
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To go find your peace.
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Yeah. So I sold that. And then we should come
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down here and rent a camp from Chick-fil-A. Yeah. So
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I got tired of renting it. So I stayed in
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the house about four miles back on the property. And
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I asked the guy, hey, man. could you sell me
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200 acres back here? He said, let me talk to
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my family. Family said they don't want to sell it.
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So next year I said, can I, can I buy
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400 acres?
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And this is the Cathy family. Yeah. This is the
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Cathy family who owns Chick-fil-A.
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He said, Steve, I really want to help you out,
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but my family, they want to get rid of it now.
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I said, cool. How much of it?
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He said, all of it. I said, how much is
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it total? He said, 1600 acres. So I blinked and, uh,
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I went and talked to my wife and told her
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about it.
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And she said, Steve, that's what.
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You want to do. She said, you go to work
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every day. She said, you make all this, all the money.
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She said, all I do is watch it for you.
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And so I said, yeah, well, I want to do it.
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And so we cut a deal and we ended up
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buying it, all 1600 acres. And what I was buying
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it for was for the mentoring camps for the boys
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and girls.
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Because in these lakes back here, I teach kids how
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to fish.
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How many lakes are on this?
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Nine.
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Nine lakes.
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Yeah.
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You was thinking in Kentucky on that drought, one lake.
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If I could just get one.
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God would do exceedingly and abundantly over all you can
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think or ask. Come on. He don't play. So, you know,
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I got all these lakes out here. See, all these
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lakes are special. Like the very first lake up here
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is where the spout comes down into it. I call
505
00:22:00.019 --> 00:22:02.859
that Lake 112, because that's where I'm from. It started
506
00:22:02.900 --> 00:22:06.480
with 112. Then it flows over into that one, which
507
00:22:06.539 --> 00:22:09.589
is Memphis. That's where I met Marjorie. Then it flows
508
00:22:09.650 --> 00:22:11.950
into that one, which is Legacy, which is why I
509
00:22:12.029 --> 00:22:15.349
bought this place and called it the Legacy Ranch. That
510
00:22:15.450 --> 00:22:17.769
seal at the front of my house, I tore up
511
00:22:17.789 --> 00:22:20.690
them double R's, Rock Ranch. I been took all that out.
512
00:22:21.150 --> 00:22:23.339
And we put our own family emblem in there that
513
00:22:23.500 --> 00:22:24.640
your young brother designed.
514
00:22:24.680 --> 00:22:26.039
Yeah, that Winston design, yeah.
515
00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:31.339
And on that crest, that shield, it says Isaiah 54, 17,
516
00:22:31.339 --> 00:22:33.569
no weapon formed against me shall prosper.
517
00:22:34.140 --> 00:22:35.630
That's what people don't understand.
518
00:22:36.509 --> 00:22:38.549
And I just wish young people who were on the
519
00:22:38.630 --> 00:22:42.390
Internet spending their time trolling people and dogging them. If
520
00:22:42.430 --> 00:22:45.769
you took that energy and applied it to yourself, imagine
521
00:22:45.809 --> 00:22:48.109
how much further you could go. You could be out
522
00:22:48.150 --> 00:22:51.890
here doing something special with your life. Instead of crapping
523
00:22:51.970 --> 00:22:54.829
on mine, just don't do that. And so all of
524
00:22:54.869 --> 00:22:57.069
these lakes were tied together. And then I got Lake
525
00:22:57.150 --> 00:23:00.329
Marjorie over there. I got the prayer pond over there.
526
00:23:00.410 --> 00:23:03.170
I built a brand new dock over there where I
527
00:23:03.190 --> 00:23:05.539
go out and pray. And then you go in the back.
528
00:23:05.759 --> 00:23:08.539
I really like the lakes in the back because it's
529
00:23:08.579 --> 00:23:11.160
away from all this hill. We got Adore, which is
530
00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:14.900
my favorite lake. Adore is me and Marjorie's favorite song,
531
00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:17.720
Princess Adore. And then I go into the back and
532
00:23:17.740 --> 00:23:20.359
that's Lake UAE because that's the country that I love.
533
00:23:20.869 --> 00:23:23.190
And the other place I love is Africa. And then
534
00:23:23.210 --> 00:23:26.369
the lake that I first started on back there when
535
00:23:26.390 --> 00:23:28.609
I was trying to get 200 Lakers, Lake Wonderlove.
536
00:23:28.890 --> 00:23:30.750
Yeah. It's just for fishing.
537
00:23:31.150 --> 00:23:33.569
So much fishing that he had to take me and
538
00:23:33.609 --> 00:23:36.329
my nephew BJ out there to try our own luck.
539
00:23:37.269 --> 00:23:40.130
How long do you typically stay out here? You let
540
00:23:40.170 --> 00:23:41.670
the day just do what it do.
541
00:23:42.009 --> 00:23:42.390
Hours.
542
00:23:42.630 --> 00:23:42.950
Yeah.
543
00:23:43.390 --> 00:23:43.809
Hours.
544
00:23:45.450 --> 00:23:48.009
I might bank fish. I mostly get on my boats, though.
545
00:23:49.049 --> 00:23:51.670
I got radar on the boats. show you where the
546
00:23:51.769 --> 00:23:54.130
fish at, how deep they are, how far away they are.
547
00:23:54.789 --> 00:23:58.670
I just caught a six-pound, seven-ounce bass out of there
548
00:23:58.690 --> 00:23:59.269
the other day.
549
00:23:59.549 --> 00:24:01.390
You come out here and you fish all the time.
550
00:24:01.430 --> 00:24:03.849
You got your own. Now I know you got this
551
00:24:03.890 --> 00:24:05.730
Bass Pro Shop hat on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you
552
00:24:05.799 --> 00:24:08.420
really have, like, your own Bass Pro Shop.
553
00:24:08.519 --> 00:24:10.140
I have a Bass Pro Shop on property.
554
00:24:10.299 --> 00:24:10.960
On the property.
555
00:24:11.319 --> 00:24:11.920
I built it.
556
00:24:13.299 --> 00:24:18.160
Johnny Morris that owns Bass Pro Shop with Mike O'Brien,
557
00:24:18.759 --> 00:24:21.849
the manager, the one close to here, Gave me the clips,
558
00:24:22.230 --> 00:24:23.589
the Bass Pro Shop stickers.
559
00:24:24.490 --> 00:24:26.089
Like it looks like a store in there.
560
00:24:26.250 --> 00:24:26.650
It is.
561
00:24:26.750 --> 00:24:27.950
Yeah.
562
00:24:28.039 --> 00:24:30.160
Now, the only thing is I got a code on
563
00:24:30.180 --> 00:24:33.400
the door and can't nobody go in there. We let
564
00:24:33.420 --> 00:24:36.940
somebody in there like your sister's husband, Ben. You let
565
00:24:36.980 --> 00:24:40.349
him in there, see, he'd just be taking stuff. He'd
566
00:24:40.369 --> 00:24:42.390
just be in there taking stuff. Just put the stuff
567
00:24:42.410 --> 00:24:44.369
in the car, he don't even know how it fits.
568
00:24:44.410 --> 00:24:46.109
He'd just be in there taking stuff. But I got
569
00:24:46.170 --> 00:24:48.430
friends just like him. So now I had to put
570
00:24:48.470 --> 00:24:49.980
a code on the door so they.
571
00:24:49.859 --> 00:24:50.420
Can't get in.
572
00:24:50.500 --> 00:24:51.599
So the Benz can't get in.
573
00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:52.960
Benz can go outside.
574
00:24:52.980 --> 00:24:56.839
He get one of them rods that's outside in the cabinet.
575
00:24:57.240 --> 00:25:00.500
But he can't come inside because all that high-end stuff.
576
00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:03.859
It looks like a shop. You got a little espresso bar.
577
00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:05.099
You got you a couch.
578
00:25:05.240 --> 00:25:07.289
I got a cigar machine in there that's going to
579
00:25:07.309 --> 00:25:09.450
get opened up in just a few more days.
580
00:25:09.549 --> 00:25:10.250
A few more weeks.
581
00:25:10.269 --> 00:25:11.029
A few more. Ain't no weeks.
582
00:25:11.390 --> 00:25:11.950
Okay, days.
583
00:25:12.390 --> 00:25:13.630
This place was special, though.
584
00:25:13.869 --> 00:25:20.329
Yeah. Does this outrank golf for you now?
585
00:25:20.410 --> 00:25:20.970
Hell yeah.
586
00:25:21.369 --> 00:25:21.650
Yeah?
587
00:25:21.670 --> 00:25:22.910
Because I can fish.
588
00:25:23.309 --> 00:25:23.589
Yeah.
589
00:25:24.849 --> 00:25:27.690
And golf leaves you questioning yourself.
590
00:25:33.009 --> 00:25:36.529
Oh, that was so much better. So you said you
591
00:25:36.710 --> 00:25:38.819
kept cornmeal and a skillet in the car?
592
00:25:38.839 --> 00:25:40.799
Cornmeal, skillet, grease, and charcoal.
593
00:25:41.400 --> 00:25:43.279
I go to a rest area where they had them
594
00:25:43.339 --> 00:25:48.849
cast iron pits. Uh-huh. and clean and cook whatever I caught.
595
00:25:51.170 --> 00:25:54.500
That's when people run me off their land. That's when
596
00:25:54.559 --> 00:25:56.579
I decided, when I get me some money, I'm gonna
597
00:25:56.599 --> 00:25:59.900
buy me some land. I love it here. It's my
598
00:25:59.960 --> 00:26:03.500
favorite place on earth. My wife know where to find me.
599
00:26:05.900 --> 00:26:06.660
That's a good thing.
600
00:26:07.019 --> 00:26:08.200
She's, Steve, where are you at?
601
00:26:08.220 --> 00:26:10.599
The only promise I had to make to her was,
602
00:26:11.039 --> 00:26:12.559
if I'm on the boat, I have to wear a
603
00:26:12.599 --> 00:26:13.140
life vest.
604
00:26:13.700 --> 00:26:13.920
Yeah.
605
00:26:14.289 --> 00:26:16.289
I wear life vests whenever I'm on the boat, which
606
00:26:16.329 --> 00:26:19.410
is good anyway. And I make all my friends wear
607
00:26:19.450 --> 00:26:22.599
life vests because you fall in, I cannot sacrifice myself
608
00:26:22.619 --> 00:26:25.460
for you. You're not one of my children. Now, one
609
00:26:25.480 --> 00:26:27.660
of my kids fall in that water. Grandkids, I got
610
00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:30.720
to go in, vests or not. But one of my
611
00:26:30.759 --> 00:26:35.670
friends fall in, and I'm going to throw this hook
612
00:26:35.730 --> 00:26:37.309
in there. I'm going to put me a trouble hook
613
00:26:37.430 --> 00:26:38.950
on there. I hope I can grab your shirt and
614
00:26:38.970 --> 00:26:40.170
bring you on back in.
615
00:26:40.769 --> 00:26:43.420
I really am enjoying this. It's so therapeutic. I'll be
616
00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:52.950
on the boats, everything. It's so therapeutic. I really want
617
00:26:52.970 --> 00:26:55.750
to talk about, because 2009 is when we started the
618
00:26:55.789 --> 00:26:59.710
mentoring camp. Thousands of boys have come through the mentoring program.
619
00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:01.299
Powerful boys, too.
620
00:27:01.339 --> 00:27:01.619
Yeah.
621
00:27:02.220 --> 00:27:02.819
Girls, too.
622
00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:03.440
Yeah.
623
00:27:03.900 --> 00:27:06.539
But my wife and the foundation, Y'all Attractive Girls, you
624
00:27:06.579 --> 00:27:09.140
work with a lot of them yourself. But I'm proud
625
00:27:09.180 --> 00:27:14.400
of the boys, man. I'm just so proud of them. pilots, engineers, ministers.
626
00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:17.960
I turn out some good kids, military kids. I turn
627
00:27:18.019 --> 00:27:21.440
out some good kids. That's probably the thing that I'm
628
00:27:21.480 --> 00:27:24.640
most proud of, of myself for accomplishing. You know, I
629
00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:27.890
got a lot of awards, but the most important thing
630
00:27:27.930 --> 00:27:30.970
for me is the number of lives that I changed
631
00:27:31.930 --> 00:27:34.069
and that have been affected by this program.
632
00:27:34.609 --> 00:27:36.089
And I mean, it's a lot of them.
633
00:27:36.369 --> 00:27:39.619
When I was working with the foundation, We did programs
634
00:27:39.720 --> 00:27:45.829
in Detroit, Chicago, New Orleans, Atlanta, Los Angeles. The thousands
635
00:27:45.900 --> 00:27:49.210
of boys that have come through the program. And there's
636
00:27:49.250 --> 00:27:52.490
something special. I feel like when Father's Day week comes up,
637
00:27:52.569 --> 00:27:55.910
you just turn into this different person. It's just a
638
00:27:56.009 --> 00:27:59.329
light that comes over you because it's really like your
639
00:27:59.349 --> 00:28:00.250
crowning achievement.
640
00:28:00.509 --> 00:28:05.819
Yeah, because I want so badly to pour something into
641
00:28:05.839 --> 00:28:07.900
them over these four or five days.
642
00:28:08.410 --> 00:28:10.849
That can be a game changer for them. And I
643
00:28:10.890 --> 00:28:11.670
try to find it.
644
00:28:11.869 --> 00:28:15.609
But I've had to change over the 17 years because
645
00:28:15.650 --> 00:28:16.930
these boys is different now.
646
00:28:17.099 --> 00:28:17.519
Very.
647
00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:20.920
And that's what's crazy, man. They're reflective of our society.
648
00:28:21.619 --> 00:28:25.400
It's just a softer kid now. Yeah, it is. These
649
00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:28.079
young men ain't like when I first started. All these
650
00:28:28.140 --> 00:28:31.279
cats were super athletic. We have a different young man
651
00:28:31.380 --> 00:28:34.259
now because they just raised softer.
652
00:28:34.630 --> 00:28:37.380
Well, they're raised on technology. They're raised on the screens.
653
00:28:37.630 --> 00:28:40.220
You know, they're not outside. So even when I came
654
00:28:40.259 --> 00:28:44.619
to the camp, look, the year before last, the football field,
655
00:28:44.680 --> 00:28:47.980
the basketball courts used to be popping at the camp.
656
00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:50.720
They couldn't wait to get out there. When we came,
657
00:28:50.839 --> 00:28:53.380
BJ and his crew was out there playing basketball.
658
00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:56.519
Yeah, because they different. And I had to start, my
659
00:28:56.640 --> 00:28:58.359
messaging had to be different.
660
00:28:58.779 --> 00:28:59.539
How has it changed?
661
00:29:00.180 --> 00:29:07.210
Well, I can't start out as tough. I even worked
662
00:29:07.250 --> 00:29:09.549
it out with the military. They can't get off the
663
00:29:09.589 --> 00:29:10.630
bus and we just go.
664
00:29:11.250 --> 00:29:12.670
Because it used to be intense.
665
00:29:12.710 --> 00:29:15.819
Go ham right away because they fold. They fold.
666
00:29:16.950 --> 00:29:19.339
And now these little boys, you know, we take their phones,
667
00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:21.539
but they find ways to keep their phones.
668
00:29:21.579 --> 00:29:22.539
And they call their mama.
669
00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:23.240
Yeah.
670
00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:24.400
They tell.
671
00:29:26.500 --> 00:29:28.640
Mama, I don't want to do no more push-ups. My
672
00:29:28.680 --> 00:29:30.400
baby say he don't want to do no more push-ups.
673
00:29:30.950 --> 00:29:33.410
My baby say he hot. Lady, it's hot for everybody
674
00:29:33.430 --> 00:29:37.660
down here. Hell, it's 92 today. It's hot.
675
00:29:37.809 --> 00:29:38.650
It's hot for everybody.
676
00:29:38.910 --> 00:29:41.680
It ain't just your baby hot. So now, you know,
677
00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:46.119
trying to go through that. Mama, they make you do push-ups.
678
00:29:46.259 --> 00:29:48.240
I don't want my son in no military camp. No,
679
00:29:48.500 --> 00:29:50.369
the push-ups are because they have to do it in
680
00:29:50.400 --> 00:29:53.430
a unit and they're accountable for one another and we're
681
00:29:53.470 --> 00:29:55.210
making them be accountable for one another.
682
00:29:55.630 --> 00:29:57.589
I just want to be for myself. That ain't how
683
00:29:57.609 --> 00:29:58.200
this works, boy.
684
00:29:58.430 --> 00:30:01.710
They don't have the physicality, they lack the discipline, and
685
00:30:02.049 --> 00:30:04.230
to the point that you just made, it's the accountability.
686
00:30:04.470 --> 00:30:06.329
Right, now I can't tell you how many boys will
687
00:30:06.369 --> 00:30:10.079
tell us, I'm not doing nothing nobody tell me to do.
688
00:30:11.420 --> 00:30:13.200
You know how many times we hear that at the camp?
689
00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:16.140
Your brother be down there, he work with him all day.
690
00:30:16.380 --> 00:30:17.880
Well, boy, that's not how this works.
691
00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:19.119
That's not how life works.
692
00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:23.720
You have to instill in young boys discipline, especially these
693
00:30:23.809 --> 00:30:27.369
kids that we get. You have to instill discipline because
694
00:30:27.390 --> 00:30:30.430
if you have an undisciplined boy and he try to
695
00:30:30.470 --> 00:30:33.769
carry that into manhood, he not going to make it.
696
00:30:33.990 --> 00:30:36.450
If the streets try to teach you discipline, you could
697
00:30:36.470 --> 00:30:39.450
be gone. If the police try to teach you discipline,
698
00:30:39.829 --> 00:30:43.269
you can be gone. And ain't no woman finna tolerate
699
00:30:43.309 --> 00:30:46.380
you when you don't have discipline. So you just failing
700
00:30:46.619 --> 00:30:49.460
miserably as a man. And then we try to instill
701
00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:52.380
accountability into them that you are your brother's keeper.
702
00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:54.660
You are responsible for one another.
703
00:30:55.329 --> 00:30:58.349
Because half these shootings that's going on out here is
704
00:30:58.369 --> 00:31:00.990
because they don't have no respect of life. They don't
705
00:31:01.029 --> 00:31:04.269
have a value to it. And because they play video games,
706
00:31:04.349 --> 00:31:07.130
it's reflective of that. If I shoot you, but I
707
00:31:07.170 --> 00:31:09.339
go get a gold dot, I get to raise back
708
00:31:09.390 --> 00:31:09.799
up again.
709
00:31:10.190 --> 00:31:10.680
No, sir.
710
00:31:10.900 --> 00:31:13.160
When you shoot him, it's a wrap for him and
711
00:31:13.200 --> 00:31:17.420
for you. Ain't no gold dot where you get re-energized.
712
00:31:17.819 --> 00:31:21.380
We're coping with a lot here when we get these boys.
713
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:23.599
But now we've found a way to be a little
714
00:31:23.619 --> 00:31:27.720
bit more Warm and fuzzy to them. Then we ease
715
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:30.430
into the program. But you got to start a little
716
00:31:30.450 --> 00:31:32.549
bit more warm and fuzzy. Like I meet them, I
717
00:31:32.569 --> 00:31:34.509
go up on the bus, I greet them every time
718
00:31:34.549 --> 00:31:36.650
they come. You know, I had the soldiers dap them
719
00:31:36.710 --> 00:31:38.970
up when they get off the bus. Now, we usually
720
00:31:38.990 --> 00:31:39.529
didn't do that.
721
00:31:39.789 --> 00:31:40.029
No.
722
00:31:40.309 --> 00:31:42.170
You get off this bus, let's go.
723
00:31:42.369 --> 00:31:42.670
Yeah.
724
00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:44.299
And them boys was with it. Yeah.
725
00:31:44.299 --> 00:31:47.180
17 years later, no, no, it's a different little boy
726
00:31:47.220 --> 00:31:47.980
get off that bus.
727
00:31:48.059 --> 00:31:48.339
Yeah.
728
00:31:48.859 --> 00:31:49.119
Yeah.
729
00:31:49.900 --> 00:31:52.259
How has it changed you in doing this work?
730
00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:59.380
You know, it keeps me being accountable too.
731
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:02.460
It's a lot of deals I walk away from because
732
00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:04.180
I know it's a little boy watching me.
733
00:32:05.019 --> 00:32:05.380
Really?
734
00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:10.069
Do you know how many vape deals I walked away from?
735
00:32:11.309 --> 00:32:14.450
Do you know how many alcoholic brands I've walked away from?
736
00:32:14.509 --> 00:32:14.670
Yeah.
737
00:32:15.309 --> 00:32:18.920
Your own tequila, your own Hennessy, you own this. We're
738
00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:22.200
already doing this much in sales. We will give you
739
00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:26.180
right now, you can start with 10% of these sales
740
00:32:26.640 --> 00:32:26.940
if you.
741
00:32:26.859 --> 00:32:28.549
Just let us attach your picture to it.
742
00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:32.200
I could easily have been getting 10% of a big
743
00:32:32.420 --> 00:32:36.930
alcohol brand. But if I do that, I'm telling these
744
00:32:36.970 --> 00:32:42.549
young boys, drink some alcohol. And that ain't the message
745
00:32:42.589 --> 00:32:43.210
I got for them.
746
00:32:43.460 --> 00:32:45.200
And that's not even the life that you live.
747
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:47.589
I don't even drink. I got liquor everywhere. I don't
748
00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:51.470
even drink, man. My boys be having another scotch hog.
749
00:32:51.549 --> 00:32:52.549
I say, yeah, man.
750
00:32:52.890 --> 00:32:55.740
Boy, I remember you ain't even drink. Yeah, I hear you.
751
00:32:55.750 --> 00:32:58.250
I be dumping it in the plant. Because it still
752
00:32:58.329 --> 00:33:00.779
ain't me. Now, I smoke cigars, but I'm not really
753
00:33:00.819 --> 00:33:01.559
a drinker, you know.
754
00:33:01.740 --> 00:33:04.279
I gave up alcohol a year ago. And it's like
755
00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:06.960
one of the best decisions I made for my life.
756
00:33:07.059 --> 00:33:09.059
Bet you can't get winning. Just stop. Stop.
757
00:33:14.819 --> 00:33:17.940
Lee Winton out of this. Winton is, he lives the
758
00:33:18.049 --> 00:33:22.569
nightlife though. That's a part of the culture of being
759
00:33:22.809 --> 00:33:24.750
a DJ, okay?
760
00:33:24.990 --> 00:33:31.039
Okay. Whatever you want to put it. You know, Jason,
761
00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:35.480
he don't drink. Stevie don't drink much. He don't drink
762
00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:38.240
much at all. Stevie will turn me on to, like
763
00:33:38.380 --> 00:33:41.220
if we out somewhere, I'll say, Steve, what should I get?
764
00:33:41.299 --> 00:33:43.250
He'll say, Dad, get this or get that. Yeah.
765
00:33:43.869 --> 00:33:47.089
You know, I'm about to leave for Princeton. I leave
766
00:33:47.109 --> 00:33:47.890
for Princeton next.
767
00:33:48.009 --> 00:33:49.849
I'm really proud of you for that, man. You know
768
00:33:49.869 --> 00:33:52.230
how many people I tell that to? Do you? Yeah,
769
00:33:52.269 --> 00:33:55.779
my daughter going to Princeton. Because that's something I could never,
770
00:33:56.740 --> 00:34:00.720
I couldn't even dream. I remember the first time I
771
00:34:00.740 --> 00:34:04.019
performed at Catch a Rising Star, I was walking from
772
00:34:04.059 --> 00:34:05.640
the hotel to the comedy club.
773
00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:07.839
Is this the one in Boston when we were talking
774
00:34:07.859 --> 00:34:08.239
that day?
775
00:34:08.619 --> 00:34:11.559
And I saw Harvard on this archway.
776
00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:14.079
So I stopped this white dude, I said, hey man,
777
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:16.239
is that Harvard.
778
00:34:16.260 --> 00:34:18.559
The school? He said, what do you think it is?
779
00:34:20.380 --> 00:34:22.679
I said, no, I'm just wondering, is that like the
780
00:34:22.780 --> 00:34:25.110
Harvard University, the Ivy League school?
781
00:34:25.909 --> 00:34:27.030
He said, yeah, of course it is.
782
00:34:27.809 --> 00:34:31.550
You don't know that? I said, no, I didn't know that.
783
00:34:32.329 --> 00:34:35.289
He said, wow, where you been living? I said, in
784
00:34:35.309 --> 00:34:40.260
the hood. And Harvard for me was just, It wasn't
785
00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:44.280
even real, you know? So to have a child, a
786
00:34:44.340 --> 00:34:46.679
kid of mine that's going to an Ivy League school
787
00:34:47.349 --> 00:34:49.750
and got a scholarship, that's like crazy to.
788
00:34:49.670 --> 00:34:50.170
Me, man.
789
00:34:50.409 --> 00:34:54.510
I know. It's so wild. It's so wild. And when
790
00:34:54.530 --> 00:34:56.650
you told me this story when we were talking that day,
791
00:34:56.670 --> 00:35:00.449
I was like, man, I think you don't think about
792
00:35:00.570 --> 00:35:03.880
the weight of the choices and decisions that you make, right?
793
00:35:04.179 --> 00:35:06.780
Because when you said, man, Brandy, I was standing outside
794
00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:08.460
and I looked at Harvard and I was like... I
795
00:35:08.500 --> 00:35:11.019
never even thought about where Harvard was, right? And to
796
00:35:11.079 --> 00:35:13.019
know that my daughter's going to an Ivy League school
797
00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:13.980
to study is like.
798
00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:14.860
Ivy League.
799
00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:17.360
To even qualify for something like that. You know, I've
800
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:21.699
always been in awe of people who get educations. Because
801
00:35:21.820 --> 00:35:23.440
I didn't have the skill set for that.
802
00:35:24.429 --> 00:35:26.969
I mean, it's okay. Because I didn't have to.
803
00:35:26.989 --> 00:35:29.090
Because what I really and truly wanted to be in
804
00:35:29.150 --> 00:35:30.369
life was not at school.
805
00:35:30.510 --> 00:35:30.710
No.
806
00:35:31.269 --> 00:35:36.449
But school did teach me the system. There's three things
807
00:35:36.510 --> 00:35:40.099
I learned from college. I learned what real friendship was.
808
00:35:40.929 --> 00:35:45.969
I learned the system. And I learned white folks. And
809
00:35:45.989 --> 00:35:47.210
that's all I needed to know.
810
00:35:47.869 --> 00:35:49.269
The system and white folks.
811
00:35:50.110 --> 00:35:52.980
Yeah, the system is how to navigate within the rules
812
00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:56.199
to play the game. You know, because the game ain't
813
00:35:56.239 --> 00:35:58.699
really got color to it. It's just the game.
814
00:35:58.800 --> 00:35:59.079
Yeah.
815
00:35:59.380 --> 00:36:01.610
You got to know how to play the game. You
816
00:36:01.630 --> 00:36:03.769
make this move, if you want to get to that move,
817
00:36:03.789 --> 00:36:06.190
you've got to know this person. You've got to know people.
818
00:36:06.510 --> 00:36:08.030
And it ain't what you know, it's who you know.
819
00:36:08.429 --> 00:36:11.090
So I learned that. And then I had to learn
820
00:36:11.130 --> 00:36:13.849
white people because I went to all black elementary, all
821
00:36:13.889 --> 00:36:17.130
black junior high, all black high school. Now I'm at
822
00:36:17.289 --> 00:36:22.659
a predominantly white institution with 19,000 students and only 900 of.
823
00:36:23.099 --> 00:36:23.719
Us is black.
824
00:36:24.860 --> 00:36:25.920
That was the ratio then?
825
00:36:25.940 --> 00:36:26.760
Yeah. Wow.
826
00:36:27.079 --> 00:36:29.260
And when I first got there, I had three white roommates.
827
00:36:30.190 --> 00:36:31.989
That was interesting. It was culture shock.
828
00:36:32.130 --> 00:36:33.150
Yeah, I can imagine.
829
00:36:33.210 --> 00:36:33.889
For them.
830
00:36:35.769 --> 00:36:39.150
Because I was so deep into my blackness. You couldn't
831
00:36:39.170 --> 00:36:41.030
have pulled me out no kind of way.
832
00:36:41.070 --> 00:36:42.110
Yeah, you was Abernathy.
833
00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:44.000
So I don't even know what y'all are talking about.
834
00:36:44.219 --> 00:36:48.219
But I had this roommate named Steve Wooster. He had
835
00:36:48.260 --> 00:36:53.179
a huge stereo system. Speakers was four feet high. He
836
00:36:53.219 --> 00:36:57.570
had a techno diamond needle. Man, you put an album on, man,
837
00:36:57.619 --> 00:36:59.409
it sound like they was in the room. I had
838
00:36:59.469 --> 00:37:01.269
never heard music sound like that.
839
00:37:01.650 --> 00:37:02.630
So I had one.
840
00:37:02.710 --> 00:37:06.829
Album, Barry White's White Gold. I only had one album.
841
00:37:06.849 --> 00:37:09.519
I ain't had nothing to play it on. But I
842
00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:12.079
just said, I'm going to meet somebody, got a stereo
843
00:37:12.099 --> 00:37:14.320
down here, and I'm going to play it. My roommate
844
00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:17.110
had it. And when I put that on, man, and
845
00:37:17.170 --> 00:37:21.250
I heard white gold, I heard all them strings. I said,
846
00:37:21.269 --> 00:37:23.409
this Barry White is deep. And every time I came
847
00:37:23.469 --> 00:37:24.949
in the room, hey, here's Steve.
848
00:37:24.969 --> 00:37:25.710
They put it on.
849
00:37:26.690 --> 00:37:29.429
But it only lasted two weeks, because that room, you
850
00:37:29.469 --> 00:37:31.820
have room change in two weeks. I was going through
851
00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:34.000
the lobby and all three of my white roommates was
852
00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:36.199
in line. And it kind of hurt me, you know,
853
00:37:36.219 --> 00:37:38.860
kind of hurt me a little bit. I said, hey man,
854
00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:41.440
what y'all doing down here? They said, we're just gonna
855
00:37:41.460 --> 00:37:45.880
explore some options. They was getting away from me. They said,
856
00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:47.719
we got to get out of this room with this
857
00:37:47.739 --> 00:37:51.579
black dude. But one of my roommates' name was John McDonald.
858
00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:54.500
He left the room early, like the third day we
859
00:37:54.539 --> 00:37:58.059
was there. And he told me, he said, my father's racist, man.
860
00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:01.980
And my father told me I can't live with a Negro. Wow.
861
00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:04.039
I said, well, first of all, you tell your daddy
862
00:38:04.059 --> 00:38:08.019
we ain't Negroes no more. That's out. We black now.
863
00:38:08.840 --> 00:38:11.730
He said, hey, man, but I'm not that way. He said,
864
00:38:11.750 --> 00:38:15.050
I still want to be your friend. So I, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
865
00:38:16.050 --> 00:38:22.059
So he left the room. Fast forward, probably 10 years later,
866
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:23.619
I'm downtown at the arcade.
867
00:38:24.619 --> 00:38:25.719
I'm in the business now.
868
00:38:26.440 --> 00:38:29.179
I got one of my contracts and I'm reading this
869
00:38:29.219 --> 00:38:31.199
contract and I don't understand that at all.
870
00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:33.800
Coming, walking towards me is McDonald's.
871
00:38:34.139 --> 00:38:34.699
Your roommate.
872
00:38:34.739 --> 00:38:36.840
Yeah. We hugged and everything. He said, hey man, what
873
00:38:36.860 --> 00:38:38.880
are you doing now? I said, I'm a comedian.
874
00:38:39.860 --> 00:38:40.639
He said, what?
875
00:38:41.090 --> 00:38:43.519
I said, yeah, I'm a comedian. I said, what you doing?
876
00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:44.380
He said, I'm a lawyer.
877
00:38:45.019 --> 00:38:45.360
Wow.
878
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:48.019
My man. I said, can I show you something?
879
00:38:48.039 --> 00:38:48.300
Yeah.
880
00:38:48.699 --> 00:38:51.400
I showed him his contract. He said, look, give me
881
00:38:51.400 --> 00:38:53.739
10 minutes. He read the contract, and he told me
882
00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:54.400
what to sign.
883
00:38:54.719 --> 00:38:55.000
Wow.
884
00:38:55.260 --> 00:38:57.639
We've been cool. Every now and then, I'll call him,
885
00:38:57.659 --> 00:38:58.780
and he'll do a deal with me.
886
00:38:58.980 --> 00:38:59.659
That's what's up.
887
00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:00.260
Every now and then.
888
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:03.739
Because he really wasn't racist, but his daddy was. Yeah. Yeah.
889
00:39:03.840 --> 00:39:07.380
That's what's up. I want to talk about the impact
890
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:09.460
Kings of Comedy had on you. Mm-hmm.
891
00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:16.139
I mean, look, man, when the Kings came about, I
892
00:39:16.179 --> 00:39:18.639
thought that was it. I thought I had made it.
893
00:39:19.059 --> 00:39:21.360
Because all I wanted God to do was let me
894
00:39:21.429 --> 00:39:24.329
become one of the premier standups in the country. That's
895
00:39:24.349 --> 00:39:27.050
all I wanted to do was just be one of
896
00:39:27.070 --> 00:39:29.630
them dudes, man, where everybody say, hey man, when you
897
00:39:29.670 --> 00:39:33.500
hear Steve, Harvey, that mofo is funny, man.
898
00:39:34.300 --> 00:39:35.539
That dude is funny.
899
00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:40.199
So when the Kings of Comedy came out, not only
900
00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:44.369
were we funny, but we proved it. There was no
901
00:39:44.449 --> 00:39:48.699
social media. There was no written me. We didn't take
902
00:39:48.780 --> 00:39:53.250
out ads. We just went on black radio and told
903
00:39:53.269 --> 00:39:56.650
them that we was coming. And boy, did they ever come.
904
00:39:57.530 --> 00:40:00.610
And they came in numbers like they had never came before.
905
00:40:01.269 --> 00:40:03.869
Arenas. You were doing arenas.
906
00:40:04.949 --> 00:40:09.710
We was making so much money, man. Because original Kings
907
00:40:09.750 --> 00:40:14.449
was just me, Sid, and Bernie. And Guy Torrey.
908
00:40:14.210 --> 00:40:14.860
Opened for us.
909
00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:17.539
So there was no D.O.
910
00:40:17.579 --> 00:40:18.199
Hughley in the beginning.
911
00:40:18.219 --> 00:40:18.289
No.
912
00:40:18.300 --> 00:40:21.840
The next year, we added D.L. And we said we
913
00:40:21.880 --> 00:40:23.289
had to vote with him. And the guy said, man,
914
00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:24.559
I want to add one more, D.O.
915
00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:25.400
Hughley.
916
00:40:25.820 --> 00:40:27.739
But we all knew D.L. We all liked him.
917
00:40:27.820 --> 00:40:29.539
We said, yeah, D. be perfect with us.
918
00:40:30.340 --> 00:40:34.360
There was never anybody else. They only came to us
919
00:40:34.380 --> 00:40:38.260
with one name. You know, as time went on, man,
920
00:40:38.340 --> 00:40:41.119
we were discussing who would have been the fit. And
921
00:40:41.139 --> 00:40:44.119
the only other fit, it could have been Jamie Foxx. Yeah.
922
00:40:44.860 --> 00:40:48.679
It could have been... Quaker wasn't that big back then,
923
00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:50.059
but we loved his style.
924
00:40:50.300 --> 00:40:50.599
Yeah.
925
00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:55.300
And we loved rock, you know. And Chappelle was a
926
00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:56.599
little bit different back then.
927
00:40:56.860 --> 00:40:57.239
Very.
928
00:40:57.429 --> 00:41:00.090
You know, so we had pick the pick of who
929
00:41:00.110 --> 00:41:02.530
we wanted it to be. But it was DL. And
930
00:41:02.570 --> 00:41:05.150
so we was cool with that, man. And that turned
931
00:41:05.170 --> 00:41:07.969
into a juggernaut, man. And then it was too many
932
00:41:08.030 --> 00:41:12.090
people on stage. So then they came and they said, well,
933
00:41:13.110 --> 00:41:16.530
and I closed every night the first year. And it
934
00:41:16.570 --> 00:41:20.099
was hard, man, because I had to follow Sid and Bernie. Yeah.
935
00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:23.519
But I closed every night, man. The first night didn't
936
00:41:23.539 --> 00:41:24.539
go well at all.
937
00:41:25.340 --> 00:41:27.599
But after that, I got the rhythm right and I
938
00:41:27.639 --> 00:41:32.219
had the show because mom had died just before the Kings,
939
00:41:33.110 --> 00:41:34.610
before my special came out.
940
00:41:34.889 --> 00:41:35.349
Really?
941
00:41:35.690 --> 00:41:38.869
Yeah, mom had died. I didn't even know my special aired.
942
00:41:39.610 --> 00:41:41.030
My special aired December 20th, 21st.
943
00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:47.179
We was on tour on the 26th. So I didn't know.
944
00:41:47.739 --> 00:41:51.360
So I just did my HBO set that night. And
945
00:41:51.429 --> 00:41:52.690
everybody had heard the jokes.
946
00:41:53.469 --> 00:41:56.110
So the HBO stand-up came out.
947
00:41:56.590 --> 00:41:57.750
When I had the yellow suit on.
948
00:41:57.769 --> 00:42:00.809
Yeah, that was the one. And Grandma died, right? That year.
949
00:42:00.849 --> 00:42:04.289
Grandma. That messed me up. So I stayed up all
950
00:42:04.349 --> 00:42:07.000
night writing a new show. I just went and got
951
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:09.579
a bunch of jokes I had never put on thing.
952
00:42:09.619 --> 00:42:12.159
And the next night, we was in Kansas City. And
953
00:42:12.179 --> 00:42:13.639
the next night, I got a standing ovation.
954
00:42:14.010 --> 00:42:14.329
Wow.
955
00:42:14.670 --> 00:42:15.289
So that was it.
956
00:42:16.070 --> 00:42:18.130
What set the stage for you to really become the
957
00:42:18.210 --> 00:42:19.610
host of that show, though?
958
00:42:19.670 --> 00:42:22.809
Well, because we had too many people the next year.
959
00:42:23.530 --> 00:42:25.849
And Walter said, man, would one of y'all host?
960
00:42:25.989 --> 00:42:26.590
Walter Latham.
961
00:42:26.809 --> 00:42:29.659
Yeah. And everybody was looking around.
962
00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:34.559
Nah, nah, man. So I said, well, you know what?
963
00:42:35.300 --> 00:42:37.539
If I host this show, I'll do it a different way.
964
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:39.199
I'll make it like my show, and I'm going to
965
00:42:39.219 --> 00:42:41.679
bring out three of my friends. That's how I'm going
966
00:42:41.699 --> 00:42:44.199
to do the show. So I went on and volunteered
967
00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:46.679
to do the show as the host. And it worked
968
00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:47.480
out perfectly.
969
00:42:47.579 --> 00:42:50.460
Because it really, I feel like, changed the trajectory of
970
00:42:50.500 --> 00:42:52.260
your career as a host at that point.
971
00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:55.829
I had already done, hosted Showtime at the Palm. I
972
00:42:55.869 --> 00:43:00.050
had already hosted my own comedy club. So I was
973
00:43:00.130 --> 00:43:02.480
really good at hosting. I knew how to move it.
974
00:43:03.010 --> 00:43:04.730
And it worked out with the Kings. And the Kings
975
00:43:04.789 --> 00:43:06.570
turned out to be huge. And I thought that was it.
976
00:43:07.090 --> 00:43:09.030
And little did I know what God was setting me
977
00:43:09.090 --> 00:43:11.929
up for, man. I didn't know where my career was
978
00:43:11.949 --> 00:43:13.469
going to go after that, but boy.
979
00:43:15.090 --> 00:43:18.989
I mean, to go through almost 40 years in the
980
00:43:19.010 --> 00:43:23.530
business of being in show business, you've had to jump
981
00:43:23.590 --> 00:43:25.570
over quite a few hurdles as a black man.
982
00:43:26.250 --> 00:43:26.989
I've done them all.
983
00:43:28.130 --> 00:43:35.409
Outside of Montel Williams, I was the first black man
984
00:43:35.449 --> 00:43:37.489
to have a daytime talk show.
985
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:40.300
Les Brown, Montel Williams, remember Les Brown?
986
00:43:40.360 --> 00:43:43.199
That really got out.
987
00:43:43.099 --> 00:43:44.139
There and became a hit.
988
00:43:44.900 --> 00:43:47.960
I was the first black person to ever host Miss Universe.
989
00:43:48.780 --> 00:43:51.340
I was the first black person to ever host the
990
00:43:51.400 --> 00:43:53.519
New Year's Eve on any network.
991
00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:59.070
I was on Fox. I've been the first black so
992
00:43:59.110 --> 00:43:59.929
many times.
993
00:44:00.510 --> 00:44:02.070
And you're the longest running host of Family Feud.
994
00:44:02.769 --> 00:44:04.610
I've been out there with a machete in my hand
995
00:44:04.909 --> 00:44:09.739
for years, quietly. cutting trails so people could come behind me.
996
00:44:10.119 --> 00:44:12.869
I was the first comedian that they put on a
997
00:44:12.909 --> 00:44:14.030
national radio show.
998
00:44:14.489 --> 00:44:14.829
Wow.
999
00:44:15.349 --> 00:44:18.730
And so after that success in Chicago, here come everybody.
1000
00:44:18.869 --> 00:44:21.110
And when I got the radio show in L.A. and
1001
00:44:21.170 --> 00:44:23.889
it took over the number one spot, they put Sinbad
1002
00:44:23.929 --> 00:44:26.179
up against me. They put George Lopez up against me.
1003
00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:28.860
They put everybody because they think you can just plug
1004
00:44:28.980 --> 00:44:32.440
in another comedian. That ain't the deal. You got to
1005
00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:35.579
have levels, man. And I have the levels and the
1006
00:44:35.619 --> 00:44:38.159
theater of the mind to do radio. I've been the
1007
00:44:38.199 --> 00:44:39.760
first black to do a lot of stuff, man.
1008
00:44:39.980 --> 00:44:42.280
Yeah, I don't think people give you enough credit in
1009
00:44:42.300 --> 00:44:43.639
the conversations that they have.
1010
00:44:44.909 --> 00:44:47.250
You know, because I don't ask for it either, though.
1011
00:44:47.550 --> 00:44:48.170
You know what I mean?
1012
00:44:48.349 --> 00:44:50.869
You really do stay out the way. I really want
1013
00:44:50.909 --> 00:44:53.050
people to know you really stay out the way. You
1014
00:44:53.130 --> 00:44:55.989
are so unproblematic, as they be saying on the Internet.
1015
00:44:56.570 --> 00:44:58.530
You stay out the way. You really keep to yourself
1016
00:44:58.590 --> 00:44:59.489
and mind your business.
1017
00:44:59.590 --> 00:45:00.929
You know, the only thing I want.
1018
00:45:02.369 --> 00:45:02.710
What's that?
1019
00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:04.579
B.E.T.
1020
00:45:05.539 --> 00:45:07.389
You want B.E.T.? I want B.E.T.
1021
00:45:07.409 --> 00:45:08.389
To recognize me.
1022
00:45:09.389 --> 00:45:12.829
Well, you got the, what was that, 2011 Humanitarian or 25th,
1023
00:45:12.869 --> 00:45:15.429
what year you got the Humanitarian Award for B.E.T.? Yeah.
1024
00:45:15.630 --> 00:45:16.869
But that's been a while now.
1025
00:45:17.170 --> 00:45:17.590
Okay.
1026
00:45:17.630 --> 00:45:19.840
See, all this work that I do with these kids.
1027
00:45:20.380 --> 00:45:22.460
Yeah. Because, see, what B.E.T.
1028
00:45:22.500 --> 00:45:25.639
Has to understand is Mia said did the first two B.E.T.
1029
00:45:25.719 --> 00:45:26.119
Awards.
1030
00:45:26.239 --> 00:45:28.739
I was there at the very first B.E.T. Awards.
1031
00:45:28.980 --> 00:45:30.659
Mia said did the first two. Yeah.
1032
00:45:32.349 --> 00:45:35.190
BET is so important to me. I did 13 years
1033
00:45:35.269 --> 00:45:37.559
of Celebration of Gospel. Oh, my God.
1034
00:45:38.210 --> 00:45:41.150
Because, you know, man, I was just, I.
1035
00:45:41.090 --> 00:45:46.190
Want BET because they don't know that everything I did
1036
00:45:46.889 --> 00:45:50.570
was for the uplift and edification of black people. I've
1037
00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:54.659
never wanted to do anything to make black people ashamed
1038
00:45:54.699 --> 00:45:54.920
of me.
1039
00:45:55.699 --> 00:45:55.980
Nothing.
1040
00:45:56.619 --> 00:45:56.880
Yeah.
1041
00:45:57.400 --> 00:45:57.960
Nothing, man.
1042
00:45:58.429 --> 00:46:01.510
You've had so many moments of the rough moments, right?
1043
00:46:01.550 --> 00:46:04.650
Because even you mentioned Miss Universe. You were the first
1044
00:46:04.710 --> 00:46:06.909
black host and you became the first black host. And
1045
00:46:06.949 --> 00:46:10.789
then there was the moment that redefined.
1046
00:46:11.090 --> 00:46:12.230
That was crazy. Yeah.
1047
00:46:13.909 --> 00:46:14.170
Jesus.
1048
00:46:15.710 --> 00:46:18.880
See, I've had some moments that were broke, that would
1049
00:46:18.909 --> 00:46:19.820
break the average person.
1050
00:46:19.940 --> 00:46:20.500
Absolutely.
1051
00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:23.360
They were going to a show. Warren Beatty ain't been
1052
00:46:23.400 --> 00:46:25.840
the same since he said the wrong name at the Oscars.
1053
00:46:27.949 --> 00:46:29.030
I never even thought about that.
1054
00:46:29.050 --> 00:46:31.630
Warren Beatty, man. And the lady that was up there,
1055
00:46:31.650 --> 00:46:34.369
they had to get them help. Oh, they was in
1056
00:46:34.409 --> 00:46:35.289
therapy and everything.
1057
00:46:35.690 --> 00:46:36.090
Not you.
1058
00:46:36.510 --> 00:46:37.409
I was sitting at the house.
1059
00:46:37.550 --> 00:46:40.590
I saw when they, because I had been, they had
1060
00:46:40.690 --> 00:46:42.929
ran me in the ground with this Miss University.
1061
00:46:42.949 --> 00:46:43.250
Yeah.
1062
00:46:44.739 --> 00:46:47.179
When they made that mistake a few years later at
1063
00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:50.179
the Oscars and they said the wrong name and Warren
1064
00:46:50.239 --> 00:46:53.300
Beatty crack like an Easter egg, I was sitting in
1065
00:46:53.340 --> 00:46:55.929
my house. I got me a cigar and lit it.
1066
00:46:56.320 --> 00:47:01.750
Thank you, Jesus. Cause the Oscars is they moment. That's
1067
00:47:01.789 --> 00:47:04.389
bigger than Miss Universe to them. And they said the
1068
00:47:04.449 --> 00:47:07.349
wrong name, but it was, and you know, even that
1069
00:47:07.389 --> 00:47:10.610
wasn't my fault. Cause I read the teleprompter and I
1070
00:47:10.670 --> 00:47:12.590
did what the dude told me to do in my ear.
1071
00:47:12.750 --> 00:47:16.190
And I read the second name on the card, just
1072
00:47:16.309 --> 00:47:19.769
like we had rehearsed it. Remember Miss Universe used to be,
1073
00:47:20.409 --> 00:47:24.900
and the second runner up is Miss so-and-so. And then
1074
00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:27.760
they would say, and the first runner up is Boone.
1075
00:47:28.329 --> 00:47:32.449
And it became anticlimactic for Miss Universe because now you've
1076
00:47:32.489 --> 00:47:35.800
got to give the little award to the second place lady.
1077
00:47:36.119 --> 00:47:38.579
And then you say, well, we know she first. So
1078
00:47:38.619 --> 00:47:39.539
we changed that.
1079
00:47:39.940 --> 00:47:41.980
We're going to do third runner up and we're going
1080
00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:44.400
to have the two ladies standing there that's competing. And
1081
00:47:44.420 --> 00:47:46.780
then we're just going to announce the winner. Or the
1082
00:47:46.820 --> 00:47:48.539
lady for Trump said, we ain't doing that. I'm going
1083
00:47:48.559 --> 00:47:50.320
to put this name on the card and force it
1084
00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:51.559
the way we've always done it.
1085
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:54.929
Well, she put the name on the card, but she
1086
00:47:54.949 --> 00:47:55.789
didn't tell nobody.
1087
00:47:56.300 --> 00:47:58.599
I think you glazed over the fact that you bought
1088
00:47:58.800 --> 00:48:00.159
the rights to Miss Universe.
1089
00:48:02.360 --> 00:48:06.449
Well, after I got ate up alive on the internet,
1090
00:48:06.550 --> 00:48:10.369
stupidest man in show business and all like that, yeah,
1091
00:48:10.469 --> 00:48:12.849
they wanted to redo the deal. And I told them
1092
00:48:12.889 --> 00:48:14.730
I wasn't going back down there doing no more damn
1093
00:48:14.750 --> 00:48:20.519
Miss Universe unless I become an owner. So I became
1094
00:48:20.619 --> 00:48:25.420
part owner of Miss Universe, Miss Team USA, and some
1095
00:48:25.460 --> 00:48:26.019
other pageant.
1096
00:48:26.489 --> 00:48:29.769
Yeah. I think when you said the edification of black people,
1097
00:48:29.909 --> 00:48:33.150
one of the most impactful things, events that we've ever
1098
00:48:33.190 --> 00:48:35.289
done outside of the mentoring camp was the hoodie awards
1099
00:48:35.349 --> 00:48:35.639
for me.
1100
00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:38.219
Wow. I hosted that too.
1101
00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:40.639
You hosted the hoodie award. I forgot when you said
1102
00:48:40.659 --> 00:48:43.199
celebration of gospel, I was like, dang, you hosted celebration
1103
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:43.800
of gospel.
1104
00:48:44.300 --> 00:48:48.239
Man, I've hosted so much, man. That's why I want BET.
1105
00:48:49.210 --> 00:48:50.989
I mean, that's who I am. That's who I've been.
1106
00:48:51.010 --> 00:48:52.309
I ain't never ran away from it.
1107
00:48:52.869 --> 00:48:53.070
Yeah.
1108
00:48:53.969 --> 00:48:56.750
I've been dressing for them. performing for them.
1109
00:48:57.829 --> 00:49:00.619
I take their kids and lift their kids up for them.
1110
00:49:01.619 --> 00:49:05.219
You know, it's just always been about that, man. I
1111
00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:10.340
celebrate gospel with them. Everything, everything, man, it's always.
1112
00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:12.190
Been about that. That's why that's the only thing, man.
1113
00:49:13.050 --> 00:49:16.329
I just wish I could get a nod from BET
1114
00:49:16.389 --> 00:49:18.750
for some of the stuff I've done, you know, and
1115
00:49:18.769 --> 00:49:19.690
then that would be cool.
1116
00:49:19.949 --> 00:49:23.170
You know? Cause I really don't, I think you notice,
1117
00:49:23.210 --> 00:49:24.349
I don't really.
1118
00:49:24.409 --> 00:49:25.989
Care about the awards no more. I don't go to
1119
00:49:26.030 --> 00:49:28.550
no shows, award show. I don't walk no more carpets,
1120
00:49:29.380 --> 00:49:32.539
you know? Cause I just got to the point where
1121
00:49:32.559 --> 00:49:36.099
I realized you in it for the awards or you
1122
00:49:36.139 --> 00:49:37.199
in it for the rewards.
1123
00:49:38.599 --> 00:49:39.719
I just want the rewards.
1124
00:49:39.969 --> 00:49:40.789
You want the rewards.
1125
00:49:40.889 --> 00:49:42.590
Because I can't sit there and you not give me
1126
00:49:42.610 --> 00:49:44.500
the trophy. I don't look good.
1127
00:49:44.300 --> 00:49:44.760
When I don't win.
1128
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:48.079
You don't look good when you don't win. Talk about winning. UAE,
1129
00:49:48.420 --> 00:49:51.739
you're winning globally. You've moved businesses with Melt over to
1130
00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:55.730
the UAE. You have the Open Fire Food Festival that
1131
00:49:55.929 --> 00:49:57.769
is one of your major projects.
1132
00:49:59.090 --> 00:50:02.429
That I think I'm going to prepare for television. It's really,
1133
00:50:02.469 --> 00:50:05.239
really huge. I did it here. I did it in
1134
00:50:05.260 --> 00:50:09.050
the UAE in Abu Dhabi. I did it in Qatar
1135
00:50:09.090 --> 00:50:12.179
last year. It's a huge festival. And once again, instead
1136
00:50:12.219 --> 00:50:14.679
of always dealing with the differences in people, what are
1137
00:50:14.699 --> 00:50:18.699
the similarities? Food and music bring people together. And to
1138
00:50:18.760 --> 00:50:21.539
try different foods is like really cool from different cultures.
1139
00:50:21.579 --> 00:50:23.719
But what was really big was I bring a lot
1140
00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:26.360
of the star pitmasters from the U.S.
1141
00:50:26.460 --> 00:50:26.880
Over there.
1142
00:50:26.980 --> 00:50:29.570
Yeah, all the competition. You know I love watching food competitions.
1143
00:50:29.590 --> 00:50:30.210
Oh yeah, all of them.
1144
00:50:30.250 --> 00:50:31.210
They all the big boys.
1145
00:50:31.349 --> 00:50:34.849
So I bring them over there because they've never tasted barbecue.
1146
00:50:34.869 --> 00:50:38.849
They've never tasted food grilled like that. Because you can't
1147
00:50:38.869 --> 00:50:40.550
even hardly find a grill over there.
1148
00:50:40.829 --> 00:50:44.269
In looking at that project, I'm like, you are filling
1149
00:50:44.389 --> 00:50:47.119
a real cultural void over in the UAE.
1150
00:50:47.780 --> 00:50:49.980
It was such a beautiful place to go to, man.
1151
00:50:50.480 --> 00:50:53.619
The people are so warm and welcoming. And culturally, they're
1152
00:50:53.639 --> 00:50:58.079
just so diverse, you know. 160-some cultures and languages over there.
1153
00:50:58.460 --> 00:50:59.719
It's just a great place to.
1154
00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:02.179
Be, man. It's only two places.
1155
00:51:02.880 --> 00:51:05.039
In this world that I can wake up and not
1156
00:51:05.099 --> 00:51:07.510
have to factor in the fact that I'm black before
1157
00:51:07.550 --> 00:51:08.409
I go outside.
1158
00:51:09.449 --> 00:51:11.130
And that's the UAE and Africa.
1159
00:51:11.670 --> 00:51:11.969
Yeah.
1160
00:51:12.409 --> 00:51:15.269
Because see, for the first time in my life when
1161
00:51:15.309 --> 00:51:17.369
I go to Africa, it's for the first time ever
1162
00:51:17.389 --> 00:51:18.369
I'm not a minority.
1163
00:51:18.630 --> 00:51:18.909
No.
1164
00:51:19.630 --> 00:51:23.130
It's like crazy to wake up and not be a minority.
1165
00:51:23.730 --> 00:51:26.639
I just go, wow, man, how cool that must feel.
1166
00:51:27.239 --> 00:51:28.070
I'm in the majority.
1167
00:51:28.260 --> 00:51:30.630
You're on the billboards, you're on the newspapers, you're on
1168
00:51:30.650 --> 00:51:34.090
the television. You see yourself everywhere on the continent.
1169
00:51:39.409 --> 00:51:40.849
I want to say this before you go.
1170
00:51:42.550 --> 00:51:45.349
I was talking about what I want to be known for,
1171
00:51:45.489 --> 00:51:49.969
my legacy with changing the lives of so many boys
1172
00:51:50.389 --> 00:51:53.170
in my program and so many girls in Marjorie's program.
1173
00:51:53.190 --> 00:51:56.570
But I think for you all that are my children,
1174
00:51:57.739 --> 00:52:05.070
I think it's been most important for me that I'm there.
1175
00:52:05.909 --> 00:52:09.889
You can't need something, call me and I'll deliver. That
1176
00:52:09.929 --> 00:52:13.780
ain't what this is. And I'm so proud of all
1177
00:52:13.800 --> 00:52:16.619
of you for making your way in life. I want
1178
00:52:16.739 --> 00:52:19.699
all of you to be better than me, which really
1179
00:52:19.760 --> 00:52:23.260
ain't that hard. It ain't that hard to be better
1180
00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:25.969
than me. Now, you know, we might talk about the
1181
00:52:25.989 --> 00:52:27.829
amount of money you make and all like that, but
1182
00:52:27.869 --> 00:52:30.750
that ain't what makes you better. The money you make
1183
00:52:31.269 --> 00:52:34.949
can't be the defining thing of who you are. Because
1184
00:52:35.030 --> 00:52:37.880
as much money as I've made, that's not what I'm
1185
00:52:37.940 --> 00:52:42.059
famous for. I want to be famous for changing thousands
1186
00:52:42.099 --> 00:52:45.420
of boys' lives. That's what I want to be famous for.
1187
00:52:46.119 --> 00:52:50.050
I want to be famous for bridging the cultural.
1188
00:52:49.610 --> 00:52:52.030
Gap between Africa, America, the UAE.
1189
00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:56.030
I want to do exchange programs with the UAE and
1190
00:52:56.150 --> 00:52:58.949
Africa and all of this, man. I want to keep
1191
00:52:59.130 --> 00:53:03.130
making people look at the similarities within themselves as opposed
1192
00:53:03.170 --> 00:53:04.010
to the differences.
1193
00:53:05.150 --> 00:53:07.170
I mean, you know, you look at your brother Jason, man.
1194
00:53:07.250 --> 00:53:10.579
Jason is just the most amazing father I've ever seen.
1195
00:53:11.360 --> 00:53:14.059
This little dude, man, he got five.
1196
00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:14.420
Yeah.
1197
00:53:14.579 --> 00:53:17.059
And he's the best dad I've ever seen. He's so
1198
00:53:17.119 --> 00:53:19.960
much better at it than me. He puts it in.
1199
00:53:20.679 --> 00:53:23.730
You know, you look at Wynton that's over there now
1200
00:53:24.190 --> 00:53:27.130
making a way on his own. You with this podcast,
1201
00:53:27.190 --> 00:53:29.989
Carly done been in insurance. Carly got a family now.
1202
00:53:30.610 --> 00:53:33.900
Carly works. She's such a creative person. Y'all do stuff together.
1203
00:53:34.760 --> 00:53:37.880
My oldest, Steve, you know, he works directly with me.
1204
00:53:38.019 --> 00:53:40.659
You know, he helps me in so many aspects of
1205
00:53:40.699 --> 00:53:43.760
my life. You know, we still shaping this chief of
1206
00:53:43.800 --> 00:53:47.250
staff role. But he getting it, you know, and his
1207
00:53:47.329 --> 00:53:50.559
willingness to do it is what's impressive. And for my sons,
1208
00:53:50.599 --> 00:53:53.639
I just love the fact that they're kind men. My
1209
00:53:53.699 --> 00:53:58.030
sons are kind men. And they really are respectful of women.
1210
00:53:58.949 --> 00:54:01.489
You know, what they go and do and become and
1211
00:54:01.530 --> 00:54:05.360
how much they make, I don't even care. I got
1212
00:54:05.380 --> 00:54:07.440
them to the point where I raised them in a
1213
00:54:07.460 --> 00:54:08.940
way where none of them went to jail.
1214
00:54:10.360 --> 00:54:11.179
Unlike their daddy.
1215
00:54:13.159 --> 00:54:16.539
Nobody got somebody pregnant and walked off and left some
1216
00:54:16.599 --> 00:54:19.719
girl holding the bag. What you all have become, man,
1217
00:54:19.780 --> 00:54:22.860
you know, it's really been a prideful thing for me,
1218
00:54:22.900 --> 00:54:24.719
you know, to be able to sit back and go, yeah,
1219
00:54:24.739 --> 00:54:27.219
they're my kids right there. And know that you all
1220
00:54:27.239 --> 00:54:30.199
are performing at a level, man, that makes me proud.
1221
00:54:30.260 --> 00:54:34.039
So it's what you become as people that matters to
1222
00:54:34.059 --> 00:54:36.579
me more than anything, the most important thing. And Lori,
1223
00:54:37.300 --> 00:54:40.219
Lori's out there working hard, you know, trying to make
1224
00:54:40.260 --> 00:54:43.090
a way. I feel sorry for your sister because, boy,
1225
00:54:43.110 --> 00:54:45.909
she out there in that life where it's just, that internet,
1226
00:54:45.949 --> 00:54:48.849
that ain't where you want to be, man. But she
1227
00:54:48.869 --> 00:54:51.429
pulling it together, you know, learning as she goes along,
1228
00:54:51.489 --> 00:54:58.449
you know. I'm just really happy that everybody now, you know,
1229
00:54:58.610 --> 00:55:00.829
can lean on each other, count on each other.
1230
00:55:01.429 --> 00:55:03.949
Carly gave me BJ, you know. I still look at
1231
00:55:03.969 --> 00:55:04.510
that picture.
1232
00:55:04.969 --> 00:55:07.289
The first time her and Ben bought him and handed
1233
00:55:07.329 --> 00:55:08.929
him to me backstage.
1234
00:55:09.030 --> 00:55:09.639
It broke me.
1235
00:55:09.989 --> 00:55:13.139
Because this was my grandson. This dude is a piece
1236
00:55:13.199 --> 00:55:15.860
of me. And he's so fortunate to have a dad
1237
00:55:15.900 --> 00:55:18.199
that he got. He got a superstar father, man, that
1238
00:55:18.639 --> 00:55:22.280
puts time into his child like that. But, you know,
1239
00:55:22.360 --> 00:55:24.519
I'm looking at him. He just, he a lot of me.
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I see a lot of stuff in him that's me,
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you know. He's just turned out to be really good.
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And that's probably what I'm most proud of, you know.
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And God going to keep me here for a while
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because I'm going to have a life of longevity.
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Steve Harvey, as we close out.
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One and only.
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As we close out, one word you are committed to
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in this season of your life.
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Uplift. Uplift.
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Why?
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That's all it is for me. You know, I watched
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the Kevin Hart roast the other day and it was funny,
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but it was some parts where I cringed a little bit. And,
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you know, I've been asked to do roast a lot
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of times. I'm just not into that. So maybe one day,
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instead of having a roast, I want to have a
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toast where people really come out and celebrate somebody.
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That is so good.
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You know, instead of a roast, let's do a toast.
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Yeah.
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And that's, that's all it is because I'm in the
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uplift business. I ain't in the tat out business.
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Yeah.
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You know, plus you say something crazy to me, you know,
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you know, your daddy, I go the other way real fast.
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Yeah. You know, you love a tussle.
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And you know what, baby girl, you good at what
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you do. You're really, really good at what you do.
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Thank you. You have really, I mean, I've been watching
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these podcasts. At first I said, well, let's see how
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long she do this. And the only reason I'm sitting
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here today, It's because you've become so good at it
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that I want to be a part of it.
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You know, I want to say, well, I did Brandy's show.
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Come on. You know, because I'm looking at some of
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the guests you be having. I be going down. So
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I could just say I'm on that list.
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You are on the list. Steve Harvey, the one and only.
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Bottom Powers Talks. I am so honored.
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What you crying for?
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I don't know. You said the toast. You were like,
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I don't want to do a roast. I want to
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do a toast. I'm like, oh, that's so....
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Why is she crying?
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I don't even know.
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Yeah, I'm saying, then I'm that dude, because I will cry.
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But then when I don't know what you crying for,
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it be messing me up.
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Modern Powers Talks, another good one for the books. Steve Harvey, Dad,
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I am so honored that you came and set it
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in seed. I am so honored. You make me so proud.
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I am so honored to be your daughter. Modern Powers Talks,
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another good one for the books. Be sure to share
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this with somebody who needs a little more uplift in
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their life. Until next time, I'm your girl Brandi Harvey.
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Eat well, give a damn, move your body every single day.
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Peace!
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Previously on Vaught and Powers with the one and only
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Steve Harvey. Four shows a day. You are doing morning radio,
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then going in and taping four shows.
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I didn't come from a place that breathes success. I
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would write a new five to ten minutes every week.
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They were having serious discussions. Was I the right person
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for the job?
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It looks very similar to.
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America's Got Talent.
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It looks very similar.
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It is America's Got Talent.
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It's the same show.
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He said, watch how they come up to you. Steve!
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What's up, man? In the 90s, you had to have
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a 7.0. That's the Oprah. To be a hit. Here's
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what really happened.
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He said, I'll take his whole TV career. I could
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see the lives that was affected.
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You, your sister, your brother.
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You put Marjorie back in my path, just in the
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nick of time. If you strike out to accomplish anything
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of value, you better get this through your head. You
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have to jump. I'm out here trying to pour something
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into people that I've learned.
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Welcome to Vaughton Powers Talks, continuing the wonderful conversation with
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my father, the one and only, Steve Harvey. Everywhere I go,
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somebody says, I don't care, 8 to 80. They 96.
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My grandmother, my auntie, my cousin, I love watching your daddy.
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It don't matter white, black. It don't matter the color.
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It's been probably the biggest blessing Work-wise, my whole career.
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Because it made me household. It made me household. I
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had two sitcoms before. I had a radio show. But
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nothing has made me more household than Family Feud. Because
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those clips go everywhere. There is nowhere in this world
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I can go. Nowhere.
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And they don't know me. You know, which is.
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A blessing and a curse. Yeah.
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You know, I saw online one time this dude said,
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it is a blessing to be tired of the things
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you asked the universe for. It is a blessing to
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be tired. I'm exhausted from all he's given me. But
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I asked for it. Yeah. Now I'm tired.
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So I just don't complain much.
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You can't complain about what all was on your plate
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when your whole goal was to eat. You know, I
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remember when I was hungry, when I had nothing, when
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I just wished I had some gigs. I wished I
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had a TV show. Well, now I got plenty of them.
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Family Feud took you global. You did Family Feud Africa.
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That was my idea.
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I know.
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I was told not to do that.
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Why? You can't make money in Africa. I said, well,
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you know, I'm going to make enough to do the show.
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I just think it'll be great.
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South Africa, it's time to play.
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And it was.
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It was great for Ghana. It was great for South Africa.
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It was great for Botswana. Yeah. And I did it
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because I wanted to show them that you could do
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an American-based TV show with American format. You could do
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it in Africa. Because Africa is everything, man. Everything.
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Africa is everything. It's just that they're so busy holding
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them back.
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See, the thing about holding a person down is you
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got to be down there to hold them down. Black
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people know how to deal. That's been one of the
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things that.
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Has helped me out the most in my career and
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in my life in general.
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I know how to suffer. I've mastered suffering.
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Is that good or bad, though, Dad?
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It's good and bad.
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Yeah.
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I've learned how to suffer so well. I have a
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mask on a lot of times when I don't feel
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like putting it on. It has cost me because I've
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ground myself down, man.
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I don't want myself out, man, with all of this.
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But had I not known how to suffer, I would
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have broken by now.
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Yeah, but I think, too, that suppressing, you know, it
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shows up and the body keeps the score and it
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shows up in so many different ways. And you've overcome
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a lot of health challenges.
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Yeah, my back right now.
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I know that's OK now.
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You know, as long as I'm sitting here. But when
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I get up, I'll know then, you know, I've had
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a lot of. I had some health issues, man, because
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I just been.
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I mean, pre-diabetic, you had the sleep apnea.
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I had severe sleep apnea. Got rid of that.
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Yeah. Pre-diabetic, got rid of that. You know, I'm a
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fighter too now. And plus, I'm smart.
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I will listen to my doctors, but I take more
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of a holistic approach. I listen to medical physicians to
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a degree. They specialize in treatment. I want to fix it. See,
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treatment is to get you a CPAC machine.
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Yeah.
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That's the treatment. No, man, I don't want to sleep
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on this machine. I slept on that machine for four months.
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Miserable.
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Oh, wonderful night's sleep, but I hated that. So I
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got me a holistic guy. He said, hey, man, you
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can get rid of that. He said, you get on
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this oxygen bag for 20 minutes every morning, and if
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you cold plunge from three to six minutes.
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I'm an extremist, so.
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I cold plunged 247 days in a row at six minutes.
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No more sleep after.
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Gone.
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But you changed your diet. You lost some weight.
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I masked this weight. Yeah, I got money.
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I just make bigger suits.
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Yeah, yeah, okay.
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Ain't no problem.
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But I want you to talk because there's so many
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black men who look at you as an example, as
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somebody who was an inspiration. And your health is very
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important to you.
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Yeah, but man, brothers got to understand, you got to
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go to these doctors. I know you don't want to
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go down there. I know you don't want to check up,
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but you have to go. And these women that's got
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these men, y'all usually the only.
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Ones can make them go. Yeah.
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Even if they hear me saying that they might not go.
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You got to help your man because in our stubbornness.
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All right.
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So I'm all right.
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No, man, you got to go to your doctor, get
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it checked out. If I didn't know it, that I
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was getting pre-diabetic. Well, I go to the doctor because
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I get my blood work done all the time. Right.
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Well, once I found that out, then I changed my diet. Now,
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my doctors, they don't go too far now.
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Okay, how did they go too far?
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No gluten.
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Okay.
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No caffeine.
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Ooh.
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No dairy. And no cigars for eight weeks. Now, that's
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about the most ignorant thing I've ever seen in my life.
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How's that no ice cream doing? Because you are an
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every night ice cream kind of guy.
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Every day.
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I don't even see why. I don't even see how
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you live without ice cream. So I eat non-dairy ice cream.
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They quit calling it ice cream. That's what they need
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to do. Cream of ice or something. Stop calling it
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ice cream because it is not real ice cream. The
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worst thing probably for me is the gluten.
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Because of all the breads and like the little cakes
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and pastry things that you like.
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Like if you've never had gluten before, just go outside.
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pick something off one of your bushes and just start
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eating it. No gluten, no caffeine, no cigars, no dairy.
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But I only got to the 25th and then I'm
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going to smoke 40 post cigars in one day.
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I know your doctors are so happy to hear that.
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The doctor in LA that told me to quit smoking,
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I was trying to make my last appointment to see him.
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He dead.
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Okay.
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Plot twist.
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And he don't smoke cigars.
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How did he die?
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I don't know, but he probably died from no gluten.
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That'll kill you.
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Yeah.
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I mean, you have so many people around you that
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help you. And I think so many, I think there
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are people who are watching who will be like, well,
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Steve Harvey got money.
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Money has nothing to do with it, man. You have
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to go to your doctor.
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Period. No matter what it costs.
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Especially men, man, because we so stubborn, we so headstrong, man.
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And prostate cancer is curable and avoidable.
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Yeah.
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You can get the warning signs. That PSA number's high.
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You can avoid it. You can make some corrective things.
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If you catch it early enough, you can cure it.
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You know, but we're dying at an alarming rate, man,
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because of our egos won't let us go down there.
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I'll be all right. That ain't nothing. No, it is something, man.
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And plus, you know, you want to live.
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You want to live.
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You know, you want to be here to see your
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grandkids and you want to be here to see You know,
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your sons and daughters turn into something. You want to
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see that. And, you know, I want to be healthy.
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You know, I don't want to be, like, old and
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need somebody. You know, like, I don't want to be.
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Ain't nobody washing me. So we need to just go
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and stay healthy. I just don't want that. So I'm
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going to stay healthy.
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Yeah.
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I got a partner coming down here for my frat week.
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We got to make some preparations for him.
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Somebody has to wash him?
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I ain't heard that.
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Oh, okay.
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Well.
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Yeah, because you're going to need to stay home. I'm
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going to tell you right now, it's not fitting to
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be my turn. That's what it's not fitting to be.
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You know, it's 15 of us, 15 frat brothers, but
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it's not fitting to be my turn. Okay.
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It's not fitting to be my turn. Hey, you know,
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I was expecting the unexpected with you. I was prepared
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to just, you're going to say some things that nobody
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who's ever sat in a seat across from me is
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ever going to say.
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But why would I?
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I mean, you ain't never had nobody like me across
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from you. And you ain't never had your daddy across
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from you.
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I have not. That's why this is so special. You
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really host like a men's retreat with your friends down here.
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Yeah, I do.
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It's frat brothers that we've been in this friendship together for.
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52 years now. It's like my Christmas.
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Christmas used to be my favorite holiday until I started
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having kids and the kids started having kids. So now
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Christmas is for the kids and the grandkids. My Christmas
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is when my frat brothers come to town because these
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men knew me before I was anything. They met me
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in 1974. I remember it was a girl that we
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went to college with named Ida Washington. Oh, Ida.
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Ida told me, she said, can I talk to you
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for a minute? I said, yeah.
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She said, you don't belong here. I said, what you mean?
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She said, you don't belong in college. You should just leave.
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She said, because you have a gift that I've never
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seen in anybody before, and you need to go and explore.
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I said, well, what is it? She said, I don't know.
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But they don't have what you are down here. They
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don't have no course for you. And she was the
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first person that put that in my head. And I
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started understanding why college wasn't going well for me. I
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was just so disinterested because I just, the whole time
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I wanted to be on TV. The whole time I
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wanted to do something else. You know, Arsenio has a
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new book out.
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Yeah, his memoir's out.
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And Arsenio tells the whole story of me and him.
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And a lot of my friends.
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He used to sleep on our couch.
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Arsenio, we was in college together. And we played on
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the same basketball team. We'd come to the gym and
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me and Arsenio would only talk about this dream we
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had of being entertainers and on TV. Arsenio didn't tell
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nobody and I ain't tell nobody. Well, then I flunked
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out of school. Everybody was saying, man, Wonder Love ain't
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coming back. Love ain't coming back to school.
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Because Wonder Love is your nickname.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. And I wasn't coming back. And it hurt a
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lot of brothers because I was that dude, man. I
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was the life of the party.
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I was action. I was all of that.
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You're him.
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I was the head of bus.
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Always been him.
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Always been him.
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Yeah, I was the spokesperson for bus, Black United Students.
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Were you?
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Yeah, man.
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Whenever they needed something, they used to call me Abernathy.
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I'd go in there and argue with the white folks.
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I love that.
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I'd go in there and get it done, man.
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Yeah, look at you. It'd be a little simple stuff like,
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Like our dormitory had a fund that we was allocated
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to each dorm. So all the white students voted on
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the ski trip. They raised their hand. Everybody going skiing. Well,
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the black kids, we sitting up there like, skiing? Dog,
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we ain't got no skis.
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It's more like Daytona.
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We don't have no ski racks. We don't have no skis.
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We ain't got no money for no lift. We ain't
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got no money for none of that. And I'm sitting
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there going, what are they talking about? So I said, well,
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while y'all on the ski trail, can we get $ 50
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out the budget, $ 100 out the budget to throw a party?
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And they said, no. Boy, them black people came and
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got me. They said, Steve, come here, man.
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Come on, Abernathy.
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Because you know how to talk to them.
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They told us we can't have $ 100.
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Boy, when I got through talking to them white kids and.
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Miss Treshawn, that old white lady.
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Yeah.
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I told him, I said, and let me explain something
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to you. I am personal friends with Reverend Jesse Jackson.
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I will have Jesse Jackson named down here on this campus.
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So fast, over $ 100. Okay, okay.
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Why would you do that?
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Because this is unfair.
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You told him that you knew Jesse Jackson?
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Yeah, I ain't never met Jesse Jackson. I ain't know
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Jesse Jackson.
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Jesse Jackson wouldn't know me.
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I don't know nobody. But I had put it in
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their head that I knew Jesse Jackson. And I was
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going to have him come down here.
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We was going to march.
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For that $ 100.
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Yeah. And it was so crazy because I said, we
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ain't asking y'all not to go skiing.
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I just, we don't ski. Yeah.
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Well, suppose we could help you all with a little
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bit of funding for it. No, no, we need all
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the funding. My daddy down here, he's going to send
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me $ 5.
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That's it. That's it.
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We don't need funding. We need money for the whole trip.
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And then one black dude, we don't want to ski.
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I said, there you have it. We don't even want
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to ski. So we ended up throwing a big party.
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So that was it. And then I got the money
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for us and we threw a party.
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It was everything.
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That friendship that I formed with those men stayed consistent
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for all these years. So when they come, it's the
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only people that I can sit around that know me
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and treat me the exact same.
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You know, I cater all the food. I bring them in.
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We all stay on the ranch in these houses.
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We smoke cigars, drink scotch, and we talk trash the
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whole time.
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Yeah. The whole time.
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But I think what's so powerful about that, Dad, and
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you probably don't even think about this part of the
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mental health of what that is for men, to be
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able to sit around with people out in nature, love
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on each other, care for each other. That's important.
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Well, you know, I mean, we actually watch our future.
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We got a health group and everybody call in. They
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got to do wellness checks.
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Yeah. We have weigh-in Wednesdays.
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Weigh-in Wednesdays?
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Everybody got to record their weight and send it in
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on Wednesdays.
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That's what's up.
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We got a special program. I have a fund that
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I set aside for the bros. Some of them less
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fortunate than me, right? So like if they got to
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get a prescription or they got to do something or
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they need some tests and they can't afford it, you
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can get it out to fund so nobody can go
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untested and nothing like that.
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You know, I had one partner, ma'am, who was just
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a true story.
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He was fourth stage kidney disease when he came here.
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Wow.
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Fourth stage kidney disease. He said, it's cool, but because
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I'm a pastor, I'm in line to be on dialysis next.
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I said, that's your plan, dog. Your plan is when
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your kidney give out, you next in line to be
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on dialysis.
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So I got him tested and everything.
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Next thing you know, he was down to stage one.
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Stage four, you finna go on dialysis, man. You ain't
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gonna be able to make this trip no more. Cause
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you got to plug up into that machine every so often.
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You ain't gonna make the trip. He got a sauna.
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He got the light panels. He got the cold plunge pool.
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He got everything. All of that out of the fun. So, brothers,
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you know, we take care of each other. And one
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of us slipping. You know, we in each other pretty bad.
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And they talk to each other kind of crazy.
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Oh, if you're in the group chat, we know it's
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going down.
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Oh, yeah.
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Then they got a group chat without me in it.
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Sure they do.
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They got one without me in it.
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Sure they do.
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And then we got one that don't have.
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Everybody has a group chat without you.
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And then we got a group chat where we don't
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have Pastor.
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Walt in it.
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Oh, so you can really just.
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And Pastor Shaft. And I don't know how either one
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of them is pastors.
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I really, really don't.
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I don't know what they're passing out badges for pastors at,
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but I don't know how Shaft and Walt is pastors.
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I didn't know they had pastor badges.
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Well, I don't... Well, how'd they become pastors? Because, man.
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If they knew who these dudes used to be, there's
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no way they could be pastors.
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But that's the testimony, how I got over.
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We was at one of the reunions.
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And I just asked Chef, I said, Chef, what you
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doing now?
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I'm a pastor. So I stopped, I looked at him,
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I started blinking. You what dog? He said, I'm a pastor.
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And then I just went out in the hallway and
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I told God, I think I can make it now.
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Because I was thinking I might not be doing enough
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to get into heaven.
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And you're like, I'm doing more than enough.
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But if Shaft is a pastor.
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Baby, I'm all right.
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I know I got a shot.
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I think it's so powerful because I think there are
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so many men who are watching that no matter where
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they are, no matter what they have, they got community.
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They got people around them that can love on them
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and support them.
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It's hard, you know, because for a long time I
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didn't have that.
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Yeah. Because when I was out chasing this thing that
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I've got now, this dream, I was out of touch
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with a lot of them. These cats done overcome.
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Yeah.
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It's cats now that's been sober for 23 years. I
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got one partner, man, that was just on crack. You know,
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they not playing.
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Yeah.
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You know, so them cats right there, man, they a
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little bit different. But that's what I need.
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Yeah.
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I like cats like that, man. We just have a
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good time.
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How important is this place to you? Because this is
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your piece. You told me before, all you want to
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do is fish at this part of your life.
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I mean, this place for me, I go up on
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the hill like yesterday. I just went up on the
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hill and rolled all the windows down and sat there
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for 20 minutes. Told God how much I appreciate it.
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When I was homeless, man, I was driving through Kentucky
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one time. I got real sleepy. So I just pulled
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over on the side of the road. It was just
443
00:19:18.269 --> 00:19:22.029
a route road, wasn't no highway. But across the street
444
00:19:22.250 --> 00:19:25.390
was this big rolling hills and a big house up
445
00:19:25.470 --> 00:19:29.869
on the hill. And it had white fence, horse fence
446
00:19:30.109 --> 00:19:33.019
all the way around. And I looked at that, man,
447
00:19:33.059 --> 00:19:36.400
I said, wow, how much money you got to have
448
00:19:37.079 --> 00:19:40.160
to have that much land with a house up on
449
00:19:40.180 --> 00:19:43.809
the hill and it was a pond down below. I said, man,
450
00:19:43.869 --> 00:19:45.950
I put some fish in there. I come down every
451
00:19:45.990 --> 00:19:48.819
morning and fish. And that put it in my head.
452
00:19:50.019 --> 00:19:52.140
When I started making some money, when I got out
453
00:19:52.160 --> 00:19:54.339
of that situation, I bought that place in Dallas.
454
00:19:54.759 --> 00:19:55.720
Which was beautiful.
455
00:19:56.200 --> 00:19:58.779
That's why I started the mentoring program from there. I
456
00:19:58.819 --> 00:20:00.720
kept that for a long time. Then I had to
457
00:20:00.759 --> 00:20:03.680
go to New York and start working with the radio show.
458
00:20:04.119 --> 00:20:07.440
Then I had to move to Chicago and start doing
459
00:20:07.480 --> 00:20:10.509
the talk show. While that was happening, then I bought
460
00:20:10.549 --> 00:20:14.690
the place in Atlanta. I said, man, I got to
461
00:20:14.730 --> 00:20:17.069
get me a ranch that's closer than this because I
462
00:20:17.089 --> 00:20:18.150
don't want to keep getting on a.
463
00:20:18.150 --> 00:20:18.789
Plane to go.
464
00:20:18.809 --> 00:20:20.150
To go find your peace.
465
00:20:20.269 --> 00:20:23.630
Yeah. So I sold that. And then we should come
466
00:20:23.650 --> 00:20:26.490
down here and rent a camp from Chick-fil-A. Yeah. So
467
00:20:26.549 --> 00:20:28.690
I got tired of renting it. So I stayed in
468
00:20:28.710 --> 00:20:32.099
the house about four miles back on the property. And
469
00:20:32.130 --> 00:20:34.549
I asked the guy, hey, man. could you sell me
470
00:20:34.549 --> 00:20:37.230
200 acres back here? He said, let me talk to
471
00:20:37.250 --> 00:20:39.160
my family. Family said they don't want to sell it.
472
00:20:39.710 --> 00:20:41.619
So next year I said, can I, can I buy
473
00:20:41.619 --> 00:20:42.539
400 acres?
474
00:20:43.019 --> 00:20:45.279
And this is the Cathy family. Yeah. This is the
475
00:20:45.299 --> 00:20:47.160
Cathy family who owns Chick-fil-A.
476
00:20:47.779 --> 00:20:50.259
He said, Steve, I really want to help you out,
477
00:20:50.299 --> 00:20:53.539
but my family, they want to get rid of it now.
478
00:20:53.940 --> 00:20:55.880
I said, cool. How much of it?
479
00:20:56.480 --> 00:20:58.410
He said, all of it. I said, how much is
480
00:20:58.470 --> 00:21:03.759
it total? He said, 1600 acres. So I blinked and, uh,
481
00:21:04.299 --> 00:21:07.519
I went and talked to my wife and told her
482
00:21:07.539 --> 00:21:07.950
about it.
483
00:21:08.339 --> 00:21:09.720
And she said, Steve, that's what.
484
00:21:09.599 --> 00:21:11.420
You want to do. She said, you go to work
485
00:21:11.480 --> 00:21:14.920
every day. She said, you make all this, all the money.
486
00:21:15.720 --> 00:21:17.380
She said, all I do is watch it for you.
487
00:21:18.460 --> 00:21:20.509
And so I said, yeah, well, I want to do it.
488
00:21:20.980 --> 00:21:23.400
And so we cut a deal and we ended up
489
00:21:23.440 --> 00:21:27.549
buying it, all 1600 acres. And what I was buying
490
00:21:27.589 --> 00:21:30.170
it for was for the mentoring camps for the boys
491
00:21:30.230 --> 00:21:30.730
and girls.
492
00:21:31.369 --> 00:21:33.670
Because in these lakes back here, I teach kids how
493
00:21:33.690 --> 00:21:34.029
to fish.
494
00:21:34.130 --> 00:21:35.230
How many lakes are on this?
495
00:21:35.569 --> 00:21:35.910
Nine.
496
00:21:36.069 --> 00:21:36.750
Nine lakes.
497
00:21:37.130 --> 00:21:37.789
Yeah.
498
00:21:37.890 --> 00:21:40.849
You was thinking in Kentucky on that drought, one lake.
499
00:21:40.930 --> 00:21:41.970
If I could just get one.
500
00:21:42.589 --> 00:21:45.779
God would do exceedingly and abundantly over all you can
501
00:21:45.799 --> 00:21:49.920
think or ask. Come on. He don't play. So, you know,
502
00:21:50.819 --> 00:21:53.220
I got all these lakes out here. See, all these
503
00:21:53.259 --> 00:21:56.240
lakes are special. Like the very first lake up here
504
00:21:56.960 --> 00:22:00.000
is where the spout comes down into it. I call
505
00:22:00.019 --> 00:22:02.859
that Lake 112, because that's where I'm from. It started
506
00:22:02.900 --> 00:22:06.480
with 112. Then it flows over into that one, which
507
00:22:06.539 --> 00:22:09.589
is Memphis. That's where I met Marjorie. Then it flows
508
00:22:09.650 --> 00:22:11.950
into that one, which is Legacy, which is why I
509
00:22:12.029 --> 00:22:15.349
bought this place and called it the Legacy Ranch. That
510
00:22:15.450 --> 00:22:17.769
seal at the front of my house, I tore up
511
00:22:17.789 --> 00:22:20.690
them double R's, Rock Ranch. I been took all that out.
512
00:22:21.150 --> 00:22:23.339
And we put our own family emblem in there that
513
00:22:23.500 --> 00:22:24.640
your young brother designed.
514
00:22:24.680 --> 00:22:26.039
Yeah, that Winston design, yeah.
515
00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:31.339
And on that crest, that shield, it says Isaiah 54, 17,
516
00:22:31.339 --> 00:22:33.569
no weapon formed against me shall prosper.
517
00:22:34.140 --> 00:22:35.630
That's what people don't understand.
518
00:22:36.509 --> 00:22:38.549
And I just wish young people who were on the
519
00:22:38.630 --> 00:22:42.390
Internet spending their time trolling people and dogging them. If
520
00:22:42.430 --> 00:22:45.769
you took that energy and applied it to yourself, imagine
521
00:22:45.809 --> 00:22:48.109
how much further you could go. You could be out
522
00:22:48.150 --> 00:22:51.890
here doing something special with your life. Instead of crapping
523
00:22:51.970 --> 00:22:54.829
on mine, just don't do that. And so all of
524
00:22:54.869 --> 00:22:57.069
these lakes were tied together. And then I got Lake
525
00:22:57.150 --> 00:23:00.329
Marjorie over there. I got the prayer pond over there.
526
00:23:00.410 --> 00:23:03.170
I built a brand new dock over there where I
527
00:23:03.190 --> 00:23:05.539
go out and pray. And then you go in the back.
528
00:23:05.759 --> 00:23:08.539
I really like the lakes in the back because it's
529
00:23:08.579 --> 00:23:11.160
away from all this hill. We got Adore, which is
530
00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:14.900
my favorite lake. Adore is me and Marjorie's favorite song,
531
00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:17.720
Princess Adore. And then I go into the back and
532
00:23:17.740 --> 00:23:20.359
that's Lake UAE because that's the country that I love.
533
00:23:20.869 --> 00:23:23.190
And the other place I love is Africa. And then
534
00:23:23.210 --> 00:23:26.369
the lake that I first started on back there when
535
00:23:26.390 --> 00:23:28.609
I was trying to get 200 Lakers, Lake Wonderlove.
536
00:23:28.890 --> 00:23:30.750
Yeah. It's just for fishing.
537
00:23:31.150 --> 00:23:33.569
So much fishing that he had to take me and
538
00:23:33.609 --> 00:23:36.329
my nephew BJ out there to try our own luck.
539
00:23:37.269 --> 00:23:40.130
How long do you typically stay out here? You let
540
00:23:40.170 --> 00:23:41.670
the day just do what it do.
541
00:23:42.009 --> 00:23:42.390
Hours.
542
00:23:42.630 --> 00:23:42.950
Yeah.
543
00:23:43.390 --> 00:23:43.809
Hours.
544
00:23:45.450 --> 00:23:48.009
I might bank fish. I mostly get on my boats, though.
545
00:23:49.049 --> 00:23:51.670
I got radar on the boats. show you where the
546
00:23:51.769 --> 00:23:54.130
fish at, how deep they are, how far away they are.
547
00:23:54.789 --> 00:23:58.670
I just caught a six-pound, seven-ounce bass out of there
548
00:23:58.690 --> 00:23:59.269
the other day.
549
00:23:59.549 --> 00:24:01.390
You come out here and you fish all the time.
550
00:24:01.430 --> 00:24:03.849
You got your own. Now I know you got this
551
00:24:03.890 --> 00:24:05.730
Bass Pro Shop hat on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you
552
00:24:05.799 --> 00:24:08.420
really have, like, your own Bass Pro Shop.
553
00:24:08.519 --> 00:24:10.140
I have a Bass Pro Shop on property.
554
00:24:10.299 --> 00:24:10.960
On the property.
555
00:24:11.319 --> 00:24:11.920
I built it.
556
00:24:13.299 --> 00:24:18.160
Johnny Morris that owns Bass Pro Shop with Mike O'Brien,
557
00:24:18.759 --> 00:24:21.849
the manager, the one close to here, Gave me the clips,
558
00:24:22.230 --> 00:24:23.589
the Bass Pro Shop stickers.
559
00:24:24.490 --> 00:24:26.089
Like it looks like a store in there.
560
00:24:26.250 --> 00:24:26.650
It is.
561
00:24:26.750 --> 00:24:27.950
Yeah.
562
00:24:28.039 --> 00:24:30.160
Now, the only thing is I got a code on
563
00:24:30.180 --> 00:24:33.400
the door and can't nobody go in there. We let
564
00:24:33.420 --> 00:24:36.940
somebody in there like your sister's husband, Ben. You let
565
00:24:36.980 --> 00:24:40.349
him in there, see, he'd just be taking stuff. He'd
566
00:24:40.369 --> 00:24:42.390
just be in there taking stuff. Just put the stuff
567
00:24:42.410 --> 00:24:44.369
in the car, he don't even know how it fits.
568
00:24:44.410 --> 00:24:46.109
He'd just be in there taking stuff. But I got
569
00:24:46.170 --> 00:24:48.430
friends just like him. So now I had to put
570
00:24:48.470 --> 00:24:49.980
a code on the door so they.
571
00:24:49.859 --> 00:24:50.420
Can't get in.
572
00:24:50.500 --> 00:24:51.599
So the Benz can't get in.
573
00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:52.960
Benz can go outside.
574
00:24:52.980 --> 00:24:56.839
He get one of them rods that's outside in the cabinet.
575
00:24:57.240 --> 00:25:00.500
But he can't come inside because all that high-end stuff.
576
00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:03.859
It looks like a shop. You got a little espresso bar.
577
00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:05.099
You got you a couch.
578
00:25:05.240 --> 00:25:07.289
I got a cigar machine in there that's going to
579
00:25:07.309 --> 00:25:09.450
get opened up in just a few more days.
580
00:25:09.549 --> 00:25:10.250
A few more weeks.
581
00:25:10.269 --> 00:25:11.029
A few more. Ain't no weeks.
582
00:25:11.390 --> 00:25:11.950
Okay, days.
583
00:25:12.390 --> 00:25:13.630
This place was special, though.
584
00:25:13.869 --> 00:25:20.329
Yeah. Does this outrank golf for you now?
585
00:25:20.410 --> 00:25:20.970
Hell yeah.
586
00:25:21.369 --> 00:25:21.650
Yeah?
587
00:25:21.670 --> 00:25:22.910
Because I can fish.
588
00:25:23.309 --> 00:25:23.589
Yeah.
589
00:25:24.849 --> 00:25:27.690
And golf leaves you questioning yourself.
590
00:25:33.009 --> 00:25:36.529
Oh, that was so much better. So you said you
591
00:25:36.710 --> 00:25:38.819
kept cornmeal and a skillet in the car?
592
00:25:38.839 --> 00:25:40.799
Cornmeal, skillet, grease, and charcoal.
593
00:25:41.400 --> 00:25:43.279
I go to a rest area where they had them
594
00:25:43.339 --> 00:25:48.849
cast iron pits. Uh-huh. and clean and cook whatever I caught.
595
00:25:51.170 --> 00:25:54.500
That's when people run me off their land. That's when
596
00:25:54.559 --> 00:25:56.579
I decided, when I get me some money, I'm gonna
597
00:25:56.599 --> 00:25:59.900
buy me some land. I love it here. It's my
598
00:25:59.960 --> 00:26:03.500
favorite place on earth. My wife know where to find me.
599
00:26:05.900 --> 00:26:06.660
That's a good thing.
600
00:26:07.019 --> 00:26:08.200
She's, Steve, where are you at?
601
00:26:08.220 --> 00:26:10.599
The only promise I had to make to her was,
602
00:26:11.039 --> 00:26:12.559
if I'm on the boat, I have to wear a
603
00:26:12.599 --> 00:26:13.140
life vest.
604
00:26:13.700 --> 00:26:13.920
Yeah.
605
00:26:14.289 --> 00:26:16.289
I wear life vests whenever I'm on the boat, which
606
00:26:16.329 --> 00:26:19.410
is good anyway. And I make all my friends wear
607
00:26:19.450 --> 00:26:22.599
life vests because you fall in, I cannot sacrifice myself
608
00:26:22.619 --> 00:26:25.460
for you. You're not one of my children. Now, one
609
00:26:25.480 --> 00:26:27.660
of my kids fall in that water. Grandkids, I got
610
00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:30.720
to go in, vests or not. But one of my
611
00:26:30.759 --> 00:26:35.670
friends fall in, and I'm going to throw this hook
612
00:26:35.730 --> 00:26:37.309
in there. I'm going to put me a trouble hook
613
00:26:37.430 --> 00:26:38.950
on there. I hope I can grab your shirt and
614
00:26:38.970 --> 00:26:40.170
bring you on back in.
615
00:26:40.769 --> 00:26:43.420
I really am enjoying this. It's so therapeutic. I'll be
616
00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:52.950
on the boats, everything. It's so therapeutic. I really want
617
00:26:52.970 --> 00:26:55.750
to talk about, because 2009 is when we started the
618
00:26:55.789 --> 00:26:59.710
mentoring camp. Thousands of boys have come through the mentoring program.
619
00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:01.299
Powerful boys, too.
620
00:27:01.339 --> 00:27:01.619
Yeah.
621
00:27:02.220 --> 00:27:02.819
Girls, too.
622
00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:03.440
Yeah.
623
00:27:03.900 --> 00:27:06.539
But my wife and the foundation, Y'all Attractive Girls, you
624
00:27:06.579 --> 00:27:09.140
work with a lot of them yourself. But I'm proud
625
00:27:09.180 --> 00:27:14.400
of the boys, man. I'm just so proud of them. pilots, engineers, ministers.
626
00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:17.960
I turn out some good kids, military kids. I turn
627
00:27:18.019 --> 00:27:21.440
out some good kids. That's probably the thing that I'm
628
00:27:21.480 --> 00:27:24.640
most proud of, of myself for accomplishing. You know, I
629
00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:27.890
got a lot of awards, but the most important thing
630
00:27:27.930 --> 00:27:30.970
for me is the number of lives that I changed
631
00:27:31.930 --> 00:27:34.069
and that have been affected by this program.
632
00:27:34.609 --> 00:27:36.089
And I mean, it's a lot of them.
633
00:27:36.369 --> 00:27:39.619
When I was working with the foundation, We did programs
634
00:27:39.720 --> 00:27:45.829
in Detroit, Chicago, New Orleans, Atlanta, Los Angeles. The thousands
635
00:27:45.900 --> 00:27:49.210
of boys that have come through the program. And there's
636
00:27:49.250 --> 00:27:52.490
something special. I feel like when Father's Day week comes up,
637
00:27:52.569 --> 00:27:55.910
you just turn into this different person. It's just a
638
00:27:56.009 --> 00:27:59.329
light that comes over you because it's really like your
639
00:27:59.349 --> 00:28:00.250
crowning achievement.
640
00:28:00.509 --> 00:28:05.819
Yeah, because I want so badly to pour something into
641
00:28:05.839 --> 00:28:07.900
them over these four or five days.
642
00:28:08.410 --> 00:28:10.849
That can be a game changer for them. And I
643
00:28:10.890 --> 00:28:11.670
try to find it.
644
00:28:11.869 --> 00:28:15.609
But I've had to change over the 17 years because
645
00:28:15.650 --> 00:28:16.930
these boys is different now.
646
00:28:17.099 --> 00:28:17.519
Very.
647
00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:20.920
And that's what's crazy, man. They're reflective of our society.
648
00:28:21.619 --> 00:28:25.400
It's just a softer kid now. Yeah, it is. These
649
00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:28.079
young men ain't like when I first started. All these
650
00:28:28.140 --> 00:28:31.279
cats were super athletic. We have a different young man
651
00:28:31.380 --> 00:28:34.259
now because they just raised softer.
652
00:28:34.630 --> 00:28:37.380
Well, they're raised on technology. They're raised on the screens.
653
00:28:37.630 --> 00:28:40.220
You know, they're not outside. So even when I came
654
00:28:40.259 --> 00:28:44.619
to the camp, look, the year before last, the football field,
655
00:28:44.680 --> 00:28:47.980
the basketball courts used to be popping at the camp.
656
00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:50.720
They couldn't wait to get out there. When we came,
657
00:28:50.839 --> 00:28:53.380
BJ and his crew was out there playing basketball.
658
00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:56.519
Yeah, because they different. And I had to start, my
659
00:28:56.640 --> 00:28:58.359
messaging had to be different.
660
00:28:58.779 --> 00:28:59.539
How has it changed?
661
00:29:00.180 --> 00:29:07.210
Well, I can't start out as tough. I even worked
662
00:29:07.250 --> 00:29:09.549
it out with the military. They can't get off the
663
00:29:09.589 --> 00:29:10.630
bus and we just go.
664
00:29:11.250 --> 00:29:12.670
Because it used to be intense.
665
00:29:12.710 --> 00:29:15.819
Go ham right away because they fold. They fold.
666
00:29:16.950 --> 00:29:19.339
And now these little boys, you know, we take their phones,
667
00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:21.539
but they find ways to keep their phones.
668
00:29:21.579 --> 00:29:22.539
And they call their mama.
669
00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:23.240
Yeah.
670
00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:24.400
They tell.
671
00:29:26.500 --> 00:29:28.640
Mama, I don't want to do no more push-ups. My
672
00:29:28.680 --> 00:29:30.400
baby say he don't want to do no more push-ups.
673
00:29:30.950 --> 00:29:33.410
My baby say he hot. Lady, it's hot for everybody
674
00:29:33.430 --> 00:29:37.660
down here. Hell, it's 92 today. It's hot.
675
00:29:37.809 --> 00:29:38.650
It's hot for everybody.
676
00:29:38.910 --> 00:29:41.680
It ain't just your baby hot. So now, you know,
677
00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:46.119
trying to go through that. Mama, they make you do push-ups.
678
00:29:46.259 --> 00:29:48.240
I don't want my son in no military camp. No,
679
00:29:48.500 --> 00:29:50.369
the push-ups are because they have to do it in
680
00:29:50.400 --> 00:29:53.430
a unit and they're accountable for one another and we're
681
00:29:53.470 --> 00:29:55.210
making them be accountable for one another.
682
00:29:55.630 --> 00:29:57.589
I just want to be for myself. That ain't how
683
00:29:57.609 --> 00:29:58.200
this works, boy.
684
00:29:58.430 --> 00:30:01.710
They don't have the physicality, they lack the discipline, and
685
00:30:02.049 --> 00:30:04.230
to the point that you just made, it's the accountability.
686
00:30:04.470 --> 00:30:06.329
Right, now I can't tell you how many boys will
687
00:30:06.369 --> 00:30:10.079
tell us, I'm not doing nothing nobody tell me to do.
688
00:30:11.420 --> 00:30:13.200
You know how many times we hear that at the camp?
689
00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:16.140
Your brother be down there, he work with him all day.
690
00:30:16.380 --> 00:30:17.880
Well, boy, that's not how this works.
691
00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:19.119
That's not how life works.
692
00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:23.720
You have to instill in young boys discipline, especially these
693
00:30:23.809 --> 00:30:27.369
kids that we get. You have to instill discipline because
694
00:30:27.390 --> 00:30:30.430
if you have an undisciplined boy and he try to
695
00:30:30.470 --> 00:30:33.769
carry that into manhood, he not going to make it.
696
00:30:33.990 --> 00:30:36.450
If the streets try to teach you discipline, you could
697
00:30:36.470 --> 00:30:39.450
be gone. If the police try to teach you discipline,
698
00:30:39.829 --> 00:30:43.269
you can be gone. And ain't no woman finna tolerate
699
00:30:43.309 --> 00:30:46.380
you when you don't have discipline. So you just failing
700
00:30:46.619 --> 00:30:49.460
miserably as a man. And then we try to instill
701
00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:52.380
accountability into them that you are your brother's keeper.
702
00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:54.660
You are responsible for one another.
703
00:30:55.329 --> 00:30:58.349
Because half these shootings that's going on out here is
704
00:30:58.369 --> 00:31:00.990
because they don't have no respect of life. They don't
705
00:31:01.029 --> 00:31:04.269
have a value to it. And because they play video games,
706
00:31:04.349 --> 00:31:07.130
it's reflective of that. If I shoot you, but I
707
00:31:07.170 --> 00:31:09.339
go get a gold dot, I get to raise back
708
00:31:09.390 --> 00:31:09.799
up again.
709
00:31:10.190 --> 00:31:10.680
No, sir.
710
00:31:10.900 --> 00:31:13.160
When you shoot him, it's a wrap for him and
711
00:31:13.200 --> 00:31:17.420
for you. Ain't no gold dot where you get re-energized.
712
00:31:17.819 --> 00:31:21.380
We're coping with a lot here when we get these boys.
713
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:23.599
But now we've found a way to be a little
714
00:31:23.619 --> 00:31:27.720
bit more Warm and fuzzy to them. Then we ease
715
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:30.430
into the program. But you got to start a little
716
00:31:30.450 --> 00:31:32.549
bit more warm and fuzzy. Like I meet them, I
717
00:31:32.569 --> 00:31:34.509
go up on the bus, I greet them every time
718
00:31:34.549 --> 00:31:36.650
they come. You know, I had the soldiers dap them
719
00:31:36.710 --> 00:31:38.970
up when they get off the bus. Now, we usually
720
00:31:38.990 --> 00:31:39.529
didn't do that.
721
00:31:39.789 --> 00:31:40.029
No.
722
00:31:40.309 --> 00:31:42.170
You get off this bus, let's go.
723
00:31:42.369 --> 00:31:42.670
Yeah.
724
00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:44.299
And them boys was with it. Yeah.
725
00:31:44.299 --> 00:31:47.180
17 years later, no, no, it's a different little boy
726
00:31:47.220 --> 00:31:47.980
get off that bus.
727
00:31:48.059 --> 00:31:48.339
Yeah.
728
00:31:48.859 --> 00:31:49.119
Yeah.
729
00:31:49.900 --> 00:31:52.259
How has it changed you in doing this work?
730
00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:59.380
You know, it keeps me being accountable too.
731
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:02.460
It's a lot of deals I walk away from because
732
00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:04.180
I know it's a little boy watching me.
733
00:32:05.019 --> 00:32:05.380
Really?
734
00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:10.069
Do you know how many vape deals I walked away from?
735
00:32:11.309 --> 00:32:14.450
Do you know how many alcoholic brands I've walked away from?
736
00:32:14.509 --> 00:32:14.670
Yeah.
737
00:32:15.309 --> 00:32:18.920
Your own tequila, your own Hennessy, you own this. We're
738
00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:22.200
already doing this much in sales. We will give you
739
00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:26.180
right now, you can start with 10% of these sales
740
00:32:26.640 --> 00:32:26.940
if you.
741
00:32:26.859 --> 00:32:28.549
Just let us attach your picture to it.
742
00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:32.200
I could easily have been getting 10% of a big
743
00:32:32.420 --> 00:32:36.930
alcohol brand. But if I do that, I'm telling these
744
00:32:36.970 --> 00:32:42.549
young boys, drink some alcohol. And that ain't the message
745
00:32:42.589 --> 00:32:43.210
I got for them.
746
00:32:43.460 --> 00:32:45.200
And that's not even the life that you live.
747
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:47.589
I don't even drink. I got liquor everywhere. I don't
748
00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:51.470
even drink, man. My boys be having another scotch hog.
749
00:32:51.549 --> 00:32:52.549
I say, yeah, man.
750
00:32:52.890 --> 00:32:55.740
Boy, I remember you ain't even drink. Yeah, I hear you.
751
00:32:55.750 --> 00:32:58.250
I be dumping it in the plant. Because it still
752
00:32:58.329 --> 00:33:00.779
ain't me. Now, I smoke cigars, but I'm not really
753
00:33:00.819 --> 00:33:01.559
a drinker, you know.
754
00:33:01.740 --> 00:33:04.279
I gave up alcohol a year ago. And it's like
755
00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:06.960
one of the best decisions I made for my life.
756
00:33:07.059 --> 00:33:09.059
Bet you can't get winning. Just stop. Stop.
757
00:33:14.819 --> 00:33:17.940
Lee Winton out of this. Winton is, he lives the
758
00:33:18.049 --> 00:33:22.569
nightlife though. That's a part of the culture of being
759
00:33:22.809 --> 00:33:24.750
a DJ, okay?
760
00:33:24.990 --> 00:33:31.039
Okay. Whatever you want to put it. You know, Jason,
761
00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:35.480
he don't drink. Stevie don't drink much. He don't drink
762
00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:38.240
much at all. Stevie will turn me on to, like
763
00:33:38.380 --> 00:33:41.220
if we out somewhere, I'll say, Steve, what should I get?
764
00:33:41.299 --> 00:33:43.250
He'll say, Dad, get this or get that. Yeah.
765
00:33:43.869 --> 00:33:47.089
You know, I'm about to leave for Princeton. I leave
766
00:33:47.109 --> 00:33:47.890
for Princeton next.
767
00:33:48.009 --> 00:33:49.849
I'm really proud of you for that, man. You know
768
00:33:49.869 --> 00:33:52.230
how many people I tell that to? Do you? Yeah,
769
00:33:52.269 --> 00:33:55.779
my daughter going to Princeton. Because that's something I could never,
770
00:33:56.740 --> 00:34:00.720
I couldn't even dream. I remember the first time I
771
00:34:00.740 --> 00:34:04.019
performed at Catch a Rising Star, I was walking from
772
00:34:04.059 --> 00:34:05.640
the hotel to the comedy club.
773
00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:07.839
Is this the one in Boston when we were talking
774
00:34:07.859 --> 00:34:08.239
that day?
775
00:34:08.619 --> 00:34:11.559
And I saw Harvard on this archway.
776
00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:14.079
So I stopped this white dude, I said, hey man,
777
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:16.239
is that Harvard.
778
00:34:16.260 --> 00:34:18.559
The school? He said, what do you think it is?
779
00:34:20.380 --> 00:34:22.679
I said, no, I'm just wondering, is that like the
780
00:34:22.780 --> 00:34:25.110
Harvard University, the Ivy League school?
781
00:34:25.909 --> 00:34:27.030
He said, yeah, of course it is.
782
00:34:27.809 --> 00:34:31.550
You don't know that? I said, no, I didn't know that.
783
00:34:32.329 --> 00:34:35.289
He said, wow, where you been living? I said, in
784
00:34:35.309 --> 00:34:40.260
the hood. And Harvard for me was just, It wasn't
785
00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:44.280
even real, you know? So to have a child, a
786
00:34:44.340 --> 00:34:46.679
kid of mine that's going to an Ivy League school
787
00:34:47.349 --> 00:34:49.750
and got a scholarship, that's like crazy to.
788
00:34:49.670 --> 00:34:50.170
Me, man.
789
00:34:50.409 --> 00:34:54.510
I know. It's so wild. It's so wild. And when
790
00:34:54.530 --> 00:34:56.650
you told me this story when we were talking that day,
791
00:34:56.670 --> 00:35:00.449
I was like, man, I think you don't think about
792
00:35:00.570 --> 00:35:03.880
the weight of the choices and decisions that you make, right?
793
00:35:04.179 --> 00:35:06.780
Because when you said, man, Brandy, I was standing outside
794
00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:08.460
and I looked at Harvard and I was like... I
795
00:35:08.500 --> 00:35:11.019
never even thought about where Harvard was, right? And to
796
00:35:11.079 --> 00:35:13.019
know that my daughter's going to an Ivy League school
797
00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:13.980
to study is like.
798
00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:14.860
Ivy League.
799
00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:17.360
To even qualify for something like that. You know, I've
800
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:21.699
always been in awe of people who get educations. Because
801
00:35:21.820 --> 00:35:23.440
I didn't have the skill set for that.
802
00:35:24.429 --> 00:35:26.969
I mean, it's okay. Because I didn't have to.
803
00:35:26.989 --> 00:35:29.090
Because what I really and truly wanted to be in
804
00:35:29.150 --> 00:35:30.369
life was not at school.
805
00:35:30.510 --> 00:35:30.710
No.
806
00:35:31.269 --> 00:35:36.449
But school did teach me the system. There's three things
807
00:35:36.510 --> 00:35:40.099
I learned from college. I learned what real friendship was.
808
00:35:40.929 --> 00:35:45.969
I learned the system. And I learned white folks. And
809
00:35:45.989 --> 00:35:47.210
that's all I needed to know.
810
00:35:47.869 --> 00:35:49.269
The system and white folks.
811
00:35:50.110 --> 00:35:52.980
Yeah, the system is how to navigate within the rules
812
00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:56.199
to play the game. You know, because the game ain't
813
00:35:56.239 --> 00:35:58.699
really got color to it. It's just the game.
814
00:35:58.800 --> 00:35:59.079
Yeah.
815
00:35:59.380 --> 00:36:01.610
You got to know how to play the game. You
816
00:36:01.630 --> 00:36:03.769
make this move, if you want to get to that move,
817
00:36:03.789 --> 00:36:06.190
you've got to know this person. You've got to know people.
818
00:36:06.510 --> 00:36:08.030
And it ain't what you know, it's who you know.
819
00:36:08.429 --> 00:36:11.090
So I learned that. And then I had to learn
820
00:36:11.130 --> 00:36:13.849
white people because I went to all black elementary, all
821
00:36:13.889 --> 00:36:17.130
black junior high, all black high school. Now I'm at
822
00:36:17.289 --> 00:36:22.659
a predominantly white institution with 19,000 students and only 900 of.
823
00:36:23.099 --> 00:36:23.719
Us is black.
824
00:36:24.860 --> 00:36:25.920
That was the ratio then?
825
00:36:25.940 --> 00:36:26.760
Yeah. Wow.
826
00:36:27.079 --> 00:36:29.260
And when I first got there, I had three white roommates.
827
00:36:30.190 --> 00:36:31.989
That was interesting. It was culture shock.
828
00:36:32.130 --> 00:36:33.150
Yeah, I can imagine.
829
00:36:33.210 --> 00:36:33.889
For them.
830
00:36:35.769 --> 00:36:39.150
Because I was so deep into my blackness. You couldn't
831
00:36:39.170 --> 00:36:41.030
have pulled me out no kind of way.
832
00:36:41.070 --> 00:36:42.110
Yeah, you was Abernathy.
833
00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:44.000
So I don't even know what y'all are talking about.
834
00:36:44.219 --> 00:36:48.219
But I had this roommate named Steve Wooster. He had
835
00:36:48.260 --> 00:36:53.179
a huge stereo system. Speakers was four feet high. He
836
00:36:53.219 --> 00:36:57.570
had a techno diamond needle. Man, you put an album on, man,
837
00:36:57.619 --> 00:36:59.409
it sound like they was in the room. I had
838
00:36:59.469 --> 00:37:01.269
never heard music sound like that.
839
00:37:01.650 --> 00:37:02.630
So I had one.
840
00:37:02.710 --> 00:37:06.829
Album, Barry White's White Gold. I only had one album.
841
00:37:06.849 --> 00:37:09.519
I ain't had nothing to play it on. But I
842
00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:12.079
just said, I'm going to meet somebody, got a stereo
843
00:37:12.099 --> 00:37:14.320
down here, and I'm going to play it. My roommate
844
00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:17.110
had it. And when I put that on, man, and
845
00:37:17.170 --> 00:37:21.250
I heard white gold, I heard all them strings. I said,
846
00:37:21.269 --> 00:37:23.409
this Barry White is deep. And every time I came
847
00:37:23.469 --> 00:37:24.949
in the room, hey, here's Steve.
848
00:37:24.969 --> 00:37:25.710
They put it on.
849
00:37:26.690 --> 00:37:29.429
But it only lasted two weeks, because that room, you
850
00:37:29.469 --> 00:37:31.820
have room change in two weeks. I was going through
851
00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:34.000
the lobby and all three of my white roommates was
852
00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:36.199
in line. And it kind of hurt me, you know,
853
00:37:36.219 --> 00:37:38.860
kind of hurt me a little bit. I said, hey man,
854
00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:41.440
what y'all doing down here? They said, we're just gonna
855
00:37:41.460 --> 00:37:45.880
explore some options. They was getting away from me. They said,
856
00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:47.719
we got to get out of this room with this
857
00:37:47.739 --> 00:37:51.579
black dude. But one of my roommates' name was John McDonald.
858
00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:54.500
He left the room early, like the third day we
859
00:37:54.539 --> 00:37:58.059
was there. And he told me, he said, my father's racist, man.
860
00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:01.980
And my father told me I can't live with a Negro. Wow.
861
00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:04.039
I said, well, first of all, you tell your daddy
862
00:38:04.059 --> 00:38:08.019
we ain't Negroes no more. That's out. We black now.
863
00:38:08.840 --> 00:38:11.730
He said, hey, man, but I'm not that way. He said,
864
00:38:11.750 --> 00:38:15.050
I still want to be your friend. So I, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
865
00:38:16.050 --> 00:38:22.059
So he left the room. Fast forward, probably 10 years later,
866
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:23.619
I'm downtown at the arcade.
867
00:38:24.619 --> 00:38:25.719
I'm in the business now.
868
00:38:26.440 --> 00:38:29.179
I got one of my contracts and I'm reading this
869
00:38:29.219 --> 00:38:31.199
contract and I don't understand that at all.
870
00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:33.800
Coming, walking towards me is McDonald's.
871
00:38:34.139 --> 00:38:34.699
Your roommate.
872
00:38:34.739 --> 00:38:36.840
Yeah. We hugged and everything. He said, hey man, what
873
00:38:36.860 --> 00:38:38.880
are you doing now? I said, I'm a comedian.
874
00:38:39.860 --> 00:38:40.639
He said, what?
875
00:38:41.090 --> 00:38:43.519
I said, yeah, I'm a comedian. I said, what you doing?
876
00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:44.380
He said, I'm a lawyer.
877
00:38:45.019 --> 00:38:45.360
Wow.
878
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:48.019
My man. I said, can I show you something?
879
00:38:48.039 --> 00:38:48.300
Yeah.
880
00:38:48.699 --> 00:38:51.400
I showed him his contract. He said, look, give me
881
00:38:51.400 --> 00:38:53.739
10 minutes. He read the contract, and he told me
882
00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:54.400
what to sign.
883
00:38:54.719 --> 00:38:55.000
Wow.
884
00:38:55.260 --> 00:38:57.639
We've been cool. Every now and then, I'll call him,
885
00:38:57.659 --> 00:38:58.780
and he'll do a deal with me.
886
00:38:58.980 --> 00:38:59.659
That's what's up.
887
00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:00.260
Every now and then.
888
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:03.739
Because he really wasn't racist, but his daddy was. Yeah. Yeah.
889
00:39:03.840 --> 00:39:07.380
That's what's up. I want to talk about the impact
890
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:09.460
Kings of Comedy had on you. Mm-hmm.
891
00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:16.139
I mean, look, man, when the Kings came about, I
892
00:39:16.179 --> 00:39:18.639
thought that was it. I thought I had made it.
893
00:39:19.059 --> 00:39:21.360
Because all I wanted God to do was let me
894
00:39:21.429 --> 00:39:24.329
become one of the premier standups in the country. That's
895
00:39:24.349 --> 00:39:27.050
all I wanted to do was just be one of
896
00:39:27.070 --> 00:39:29.630
them dudes, man, where everybody say, hey man, when you
897
00:39:29.670 --> 00:39:33.500
hear Steve, Harvey, that mofo is funny, man.
898
00:39:34.300 --> 00:39:35.539
That dude is funny.
899
00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:40.199
So when the Kings of Comedy came out, not only
900
00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:44.369
were we funny, but we proved it. There was no
901
00:39:44.449 --> 00:39:48.699
social media. There was no written me. We didn't take
902
00:39:48.780 --> 00:39:53.250
out ads. We just went on black radio and told
903
00:39:53.269 --> 00:39:56.650
them that we was coming. And boy, did they ever come.
904
00:39:57.530 --> 00:40:00.610
And they came in numbers like they had never came before.
905
00:40:01.269 --> 00:40:03.869
Arenas. You were doing arenas.
906
00:40:04.949 --> 00:40:09.710
We was making so much money, man. Because original Kings
907
00:40:09.750 --> 00:40:14.449
was just me, Sid, and Bernie. And Guy Torrey.
908
00:40:14.210 --> 00:40:14.860
Opened for us.
909
00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:17.539
So there was no D.O.
910
00:40:17.579 --> 00:40:18.199
Hughley in the beginning.
911
00:40:18.219 --> 00:40:18.289
No.
912
00:40:18.300 --> 00:40:21.840
The next year, we added D.L. And we said we
913
00:40:21.880 --> 00:40:23.289
had to vote with him. And the guy said, man,
914
00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:24.559
I want to add one more, D.O.
915
00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:25.400
Hughley.
916
00:40:25.820 --> 00:40:27.739
But we all knew D.L. We all liked him.
917
00:40:27.820 --> 00:40:29.539
We said, yeah, D. be perfect with us.
918
00:40:30.340 --> 00:40:34.360
There was never anybody else. They only came to us
919
00:40:34.380 --> 00:40:38.260
with one name. You know, as time went on, man,
920
00:40:38.340 --> 00:40:41.119
we were discussing who would have been the fit. And
921
00:40:41.139 --> 00:40:44.119
the only other fit, it could have been Jamie Foxx. Yeah.
922
00:40:44.860 --> 00:40:48.679
It could have been... Quaker wasn't that big back then,
923
00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:50.059
but we loved his style.
924
00:40:50.300 --> 00:40:50.599
Yeah.
925
00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:55.300
And we loved rock, you know. And Chappelle was a
926
00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:56.599
little bit different back then.
927
00:40:56.860 --> 00:40:57.239
Very.
928
00:40:57.429 --> 00:41:00.090
You know, so we had pick the pick of who
929
00:41:00.110 --> 00:41:02.530
we wanted it to be. But it was DL. And
930
00:41:02.570 --> 00:41:05.150
so we was cool with that, man. And that turned
931
00:41:05.170 --> 00:41:07.969
into a juggernaut, man. And then it was too many
932
00:41:08.030 --> 00:41:12.090
people on stage. So then they came and they said, well,
933
00:41:13.110 --> 00:41:16.530
and I closed every night the first year. And it
934
00:41:16.570 --> 00:41:20.099
was hard, man, because I had to follow Sid and Bernie. Yeah.
935
00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:23.519
But I closed every night, man. The first night didn't
936
00:41:23.539 --> 00:41:24.539
go well at all.
937
00:41:25.340 --> 00:41:27.599
But after that, I got the rhythm right and I
938
00:41:27.639 --> 00:41:32.219
had the show because mom had died just before the Kings,
939
00:41:33.110 --> 00:41:34.610
before my special came out.
940
00:41:34.889 --> 00:41:35.349
Really?
941
00:41:35.690 --> 00:41:38.869
Yeah, mom had died. I didn't even know my special aired.
942
00:41:39.610 --> 00:41:41.030
My special aired December 20th, 21st.
943
00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:47.179
We was on tour on the 26th. So I didn't know.
944
00:41:47.739 --> 00:41:51.360
So I just did my HBO set that night. And
945
00:41:51.429 --> 00:41:52.690
everybody had heard the jokes.
946
00:41:53.469 --> 00:41:56.110
So the HBO stand-up came out.
947
00:41:56.590 --> 00:41:57.750
When I had the yellow suit on.
948
00:41:57.769 --> 00:42:00.809
Yeah, that was the one. And Grandma died, right? That year.
949
00:42:00.849 --> 00:42:04.289
Grandma. That messed me up. So I stayed up all
950
00:42:04.349 --> 00:42:07.000
night writing a new show. I just went and got
951
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:09.579
a bunch of jokes I had never put on thing.
952
00:42:09.619 --> 00:42:12.159
And the next night, we was in Kansas City. And
953
00:42:12.179 --> 00:42:13.639
the next night, I got a standing ovation.
954
00:42:14.010 --> 00:42:14.329
Wow.
955
00:42:14.670 --> 00:42:15.289
So that was it.
956
00:42:16.070 --> 00:42:18.130
What set the stage for you to really become the
957
00:42:18.210 --> 00:42:19.610
host of that show, though?
958
00:42:19.670 --> 00:42:22.809
Well, because we had too many people the next year.
959
00:42:23.530 --> 00:42:25.849
And Walter said, man, would one of y'all host?
960
00:42:25.989 --> 00:42:26.590
Walter Latham.
961
00:42:26.809 --> 00:42:29.659
Yeah. And everybody was looking around.
962
00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:34.559
Nah, nah, man. So I said, well, you know what?
963
00:42:35.300 --> 00:42:37.539
If I host this show, I'll do it a different way.
964
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:39.199
I'll make it like my show, and I'm going to
965
00:42:39.219 --> 00:42:41.679
bring out three of my friends. That's how I'm going
966
00:42:41.699 --> 00:42:44.199
to do the show. So I went on and volunteered
967
00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:46.679
to do the show as the host. And it worked
968
00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:47.480
out perfectly.
969
00:42:47.579 --> 00:42:50.460
Because it really, I feel like, changed the trajectory of
970
00:42:50.500 --> 00:42:52.260
your career as a host at that point.
971
00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:55.829
I had already done, hosted Showtime at the Palm. I
972
00:42:55.869 --> 00:43:00.050
had already hosted my own comedy club. So I was
973
00:43:00.130 --> 00:43:02.480
really good at hosting. I knew how to move it.
974
00:43:03.010 --> 00:43:04.730
And it worked out with the Kings. And the Kings
975
00:43:04.789 --> 00:43:06.570
turned out to be huge. And I thought that was it.
976
00:43:07.090 --> 00:43:09.030
And little did I know what God was setting me
977
00:43:09.090 --> 00:43:11.929
up for, man. I didn't know where my career was
978
00:43:11.949 --> 00:43:13.469
going to go after that, but boy.
979
00:43:15.090 --> 00:43:18.989
I mean, to go through almost 40 years in the
980
00:43:19.010 --> 00:43:23.530
business of being in show business, you've had to jump
981
00:43:23.590 --> 00:43:25.570
over quite a few hurdles as a black man.
982
00:43:26.250 --> 00:43:26.989
I've done them all.
983
00:43:28.130 --> 00:43:35.409
Outside of Montel Williams, I was the first black man
984
00:43:35.449 --> 00:43:37.489
to have a daytime talk show.
985
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:40.300
Les Brown, Montel Williams, remember Les Brown?
986
00:43:40.360 --> 00:43:43.199
That really got out.
987
00:43:43.099 --> 00:43:44.139
There and became a hit.
988
00:43:44.900 --> 00:43:47.960
I was the first black person to ever host Miss Universe.
989
00:43:48.780 --> 00:43:51.340
I was the first black person to ever host the
990
00:43:51.400 --> 00:43:53.519
New Year's Eve on any network.
991
00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:59.070
I was on Fox. I've been the first black so
992
00:43:59.110 --> 00:43:59.929
many times.
993
00:44:00.510 --> 00:44:02.070
And you're the longest running host of Family Feud.
994
00:44:02.769 --> 00:44:04.610
I've been out there with a machete in my hand
995
00:44:04.909 --> 00:44:09.739
for years, quietly. cutting trails so people could come behind me.
996
00:44:10.119 --> 00:44:12.869
I was the first comedian that they put on a
997
00:44:12.909 --> 00:44:14.030
national radio show.
998
00:44:14.489 --> 00:44:14.829
Wow.
999
00:44:15.349 --> 00:44:18.730
And so after that success in Chicago, here come everybody.
1000
00:44:18.869 --> 00:44:21.110
And when I got the radio show in L.A. and
1001
00:44:21.170 --> 00:44:23.889
it took over the number one spot, they put Sinbad
1002
00:44:23.929 --> 00:44:26.179
up against me. They put George Lopez up against me.
1003
00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:28.860
They put everybody because they think you can just plug
1004
00:44:28.980 --> 00:44:32.440
in another comedian. That ain't the deal. You got to
1005
00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:35.579
have levels, man. And I have the levels and the
1006
00:44:35.619 --> 00:44:38.159
theater of the mind to do radio. I've been the
1007
00:44:38.199 --> 00:44:39.760
first black to do a lot of stuff, man.
1008
00:44:39.980 --> 00:44:42.280
Yeah, I don't think people give you enough credit in
1009
00:44:42.300 --> 00:44:43.639
the conversations that they have.
1010
00:44:44.909 --> 00:44:47.250
You know, because I don't ask for it either, though.
1011
00:44:47.550 --> 00:44:48.170
You know what I mean?
1012
00:44:48.349 --> 00:44:50.869
You really do stay out the way. I really want
1013
00:44:50.909 --> 00:44:53.050
people to know you really stay out the way. You
1014
00:44:53.130 --> 00:44:55.989
are so unproblematic, as they be saying on the Internet.
1015
00:44:56.570 --> 00:44:58.530
You stay out the way. You really keep to yourself
1016
00:44:58.590 --> 00:44:59.489
and mind your business.
1017
00:44:59.590 --> 00:45:00.929
You know, the only thing I want.
1018
00:45:02.369 --> 00:45:02.710
What's that?
1019
00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:04.579
B.E.T.
1020
00:45:05.539 --> 00:45:07.389
You want B.E.T.? I want B.E.T.
1021
00:45:07.409 --> 00:45:08.389
To recognize me.
1022
00:45:09.389 --> 00:45:12.829
Well, you got the, what was that, 2011 Humanitarian or 25th,
1023
00:45:12.869 --> 00:45:15.429
what year you got the Humanitarian Award for B.E.T.? Yeah.
1024
00:45:15.630 --> 00:45:16.869
But that's been a while now.
1025
00:45:17.170 --> 00:45:17.590
Okay.
1026
00:45:17.630 --> 00:45:19.840
See, all this work that I do with these kids.
1027
00:45:20.380 --> 00:45:22.460
Yeah. Because, see, what B.E.T.
1028
00:45:22.500 --> 00:45:25.639
Has to understand is Mia said did the first two B.E.T.
1029
00:45:25.719 --> 00:45:26.119
Awards.
1030
00:45:26.239 --> 00:45:28.739
I was there at the very first B.E.T. Awards.
1031
00:45:28.980 --> 00:45:30.659
Mia said did the first two. Yeah.
1032
00:45:32.349 --> 00:45:35.190
BET is so important to me. I did 13 years
1033
00:45:35.269 --> 00:45:37.559
of Celebration of Gospel. Oh, my God.
1034
00:45:38.210 --> 00:45:41.150
Because, you know, man, I was just, I.
1035
00:45:41.090 --> 00:45:46.190
Want BET because they don't know that everything I did
1036
00:45:46.889 --> 00:45:50.570
was for the uplift and edification of black people. I've
1037
00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:54.659
never wanted to do anything to make black people ashamed
1038
00:45:54.699 --> 00:45:54.920
of me.
1039
00:45:55.699 --> 00:45:55.980
Nothing.
1040
00:45:56.619 --> 00:45:56.880
Yeah.
1041
00:45:57.400 --> 00:45:57.960
Nothing, man.
1042
00:45:58.429 --> 00:46:01.510
You've had so many moments of the rough moments, right?
1043
00:46:01.550 --> 00:46:04.650
Because even you mentioned Miss Universe. You were the first
1044
00:46:04.710 --> 00:46:06.909
black host and you became the first black host. And
1045
00:46:06.949 --> 00:46:10.789
then there was the moment that redefined.
1046
00:46:11.090 --> 00:46:12.230
That was crazy. Yeah.
1047
00:46:13.909 --> 00:46:14.170
Jesus.
1048
00:46:15.710 --> 00:46:18.880
See, I've had some moments that were broke, that would
1049
00:46:18.909 --> 00:46:19.820
break the average person.
1050
00:46:19.940 --> 00:46:20.500
Absolutely.
1051
00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:23.360
They were going to a show. Warren Beatty ain't been
1052
00:46:23.400 --> 00:46:25.840
the same since he said the wrong name at the Oscars.
1053
00:46:27.949 --> 00:46:29.030
I never even thought about that.
1054
00:46:29.050 --> 00:46:31.630
Warren Beatty, man. And the lady that was up there,
1055
00:46:31.650 --> 00:46:34.369
they had to get them help. Oh, they was in
1056
00:46:34.409 --> 00:46:35.289
therapy and everything.
1057
00:46:35.690 --> 00:46:36.090
Not you.
1058
00:46:36.510 --> 00:46:37.409
I was sitting at the house.
1059
00:46:37.550 --> 00:46:40.590
I saw when they, because I had been, they had
1060
00:46:40.690 --> 00:46:42.929
ran me in the ground with this Miss University.
1061
00:46:42.949 --> 00:46:43.250
Yeah.
1062
00:46:44.739 --> 00:46:47.179
When they made that mistake a few years later at
1063
00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:50.179
the Oscars and they said the wrong name and Warren
1064
00:46:50.239 --> 00:46:53.300
Beatty crack like an Easter egg, I was sitting in
1065
00:46:53.340 --> 00:46:55.929
my house. I got me a cigar and lit it.
1066
00:46:56.320 --> 00:47:01.750
Thank you, Jesus. Cause the Oscars is they moment. That's
1067
00:47:01.789 --> 00:47:04.389
bigger than Miss Universe to them. And they said the
1068
00:47:04.449 --> 00:47:07.349
wrong name, but it was, and you know, even that
1069
00:47:07.389 --> 00:47:10.610
wasn't my fault. Cause I read the teleprompter and I
1070
00:47:10.670 --> 00:47:12.590
did what the dude told me to do in my ear.
1071
00:47:12.750 --> 00:47:16.190
And I read the second name on the card, just
1072
00:47:16.309 --> 00:47:19.769
like we had rehearsed it. Remember Miss Universe used to be,
1073
00:47:20.409 --> 00:47:24.900
and the second runner up is Miss so-and-so. And then
1074
00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:27.760
they would say, and the first runner up is Boone.
1075
00:47:28.329 --> 00:47:32.449
And it became anticlimactic for Miss Universe because now you've
1076
00:47:32.489 --> 00:47:35.800
got to give the little award to the second place lady.
1077
00:47:36.119 --> 00:47:38.579
And then you say, well, we know she first. So
1078
00:47:38.619 --> 00:47:39.539
we changed that.
1079
00:47:39.940 --> 00:47:41.980
We're going to do third runner up and we're going
1080
00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:44.400
to have the two ladies standing there that's competing. And
1081
00:47:44.420 --> 00:47:46.780
then we're just going to announce the winner. Or the
1082
00:47:46.820 --> 00:47:48.539
lady for Trump said, we ain't doing that. I'm going
1083
00:47:48.559 --> 00:47:50.320
to put this name on the card and force it
1084
00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:51.559
the way we've always done it.
1085
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:54.929
Well, she put the name on the card, but she
1086
00:47:54.949 --> 00:47:55.789
didn't tell nobody.
1087
00:47:56.300 --> 00:47:58.599
I think you glazed over the fact that you bought
1088
00:47:58.800 --> 00:48:00.159
the rights to Miss Universe.
1089
00:48:02.360 --> 00:48:06.449
Well, after I got ate up alive on the internet,
1090
00:48:06.550 --> 00:48:10.369
stupidest man in show business and all like that, yeah,
1091
00:48:10.469 --> 00:48:12.849
they wanted to redo the deal. And I told them
1092
00:48:12.889 --> 00:48:14.730
I wasn't going back down there doing no more damn
1093
00:48:14.750 --> 00:48:20.519
Miss Universe unless I become an owner. So I became
1094
00:48:20.619 --> 00:48:25.420
part owner of Miss Universe, Miss Team USA, and some
1095
00:48:25.460 --> 00:48:26.019
other pageant.
1096
00:48:26.489 --> 00:48:29.769
Yeah. I think when you said the edification of black people,
1097
00:48:29.909 --> 00:48:33.150
one of the most impactful things, events that we've ever
1098
00:48:33.190 --> 00:48:35.289
done outside of the mentoring camp was the hoodie awards
1099
00:48:35.349 --> 00:48:35.639
for me.
1100
00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:38.219
Wow. I hosted that too.
1101
00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:40.639
You hosted the hoodie award. I forgot when you said
1102
00:48:40.659 --> 00:48:43.199
celebration of gospel, I was like, dang, you hosted celebration
1103
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:43.800
of gospel.
1104
00:48:44.300 --> 00:48:48.239
Man, I've hosted so much, man. That's why I want BET.
1105
00:48:49.210 --> 00:48:50.989
I mean, that's who I am. That's who I've been.
1106
00:48:51.010 --> 00:48:52.309
I ain't never ran away from it.
1107
00:48:52.869 --> 00:48:53.070
Yeah.
1108
00:48:53.969 --> 00:48:56.750
I've been dressing for them. performing for them.
1109
00:48:57.829 --> 00:49:00.619
I take their kids and lift their kids up for them.
1110
00:49:01.619 --> 00:49:05.219
You know, it's just always been about that, man. I
1111
00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:10.340
celebrate gospel with them. Everything, everything, man, it's always.
1112
00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:12.190
Been about that. That's why that's the only thing, man.
1113
00:49:13.050 --> 00:49:16.329
I just wish I could get a nod from BET
1114
00:49:16.389 --> 00:49:18.750
for some of the stuff I've done, you know, and
1115
00:49:18.769 --> 00:49:19.690
then that would be cool.
1116
00:49:19.949 --> 00:49:23.170
You know? Cause I really don't, I think you notice,
1117
00:49:23.210 --> 00:49:24.349
I don't really.
1118
00:49:24.409 --> 00:49:25.989
Care about the awards no more. I don't go to
1119
00:49:26.030 --> 00:49:28.550
no shows, award show. I don't walk no more carpets,
1120
00:49:29.380 --> 00:49:32.539
you know? Cause I just got to the point where
1121
00:49:32.559 --> 00:49:36.099
I realized you in it for the awards or you
1122
00:49:36.139 --> 00:49:37.199
in it for the rewards.
1123
00:49:38.599 --> 00:49:39.719
I just want the rewards.
1124
00:49:39.969 --> 00:49:40.789
You want the rewards.
1125
00:49:40.889 --> 00:49:42.590
Because I can't sit there and you not give me
1126
00:49:42.610 --> 00:49:44.500
the trophy. I don't look good.
1127
00:49:44.300 --> 00:49:44.760
When I don't win.
1128
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:48.079
You don't look good when you don't win. Talk about winning. UAE,
1129
00:49:48.420 --> 00:49:51.739
you're winning globally. You've moved businesses with Melt over to
1130
00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:55.730
the UAE. You have the Open Fire Food Festival that
1131
00:49:55.929 --> 00:49:57.769
is one of your major projects.
1132
00:49:59.090 --> 00:50:02.429
That I think I'm going to prepare for television. It's really,
1133
00:50:02.469 --> 00:50:05.239
really huge. I did it here. I did it in
1134
00:50:05.260 --> 00:50:09.050
the UAE in Abu Dhabi. I did it in Qatar
1135
00:50:09.090 --> 00:50:12.179
last year. It's a huge festival. And once again, instead
1136
00:50:12.219 --> 00:50:14.679
of always dealing with the differences in people, what are
1137
00:50:14.699 --> 00:50:18.699
the similarities? Food and music bring people together. And to
1138
00:50:18.760 --> 00:50:21.539
try different foods is like really cool from different cultures.
1139
00:50:21.579 --> 00:50:23.719
But what was really big was I bring a lot
1140
00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:26.360
of the star pitmasters from the U.S.
1141
00:50:26.460 --> 00:50:26.880
Over there.
1142
00:50:26.980 --> 00:50:29.570
Yeah, all the competition. You know I love watching food competitions.
1143
00:50:29.590 --> 00:50:30.210
Oh yeah, all of them.
1144
00:50:30.250 --> 00:50:31.210
They all the big boys.
1145
00:50:31.349 --> 00:50:34.849
So I bring them over there because they've never tasted barbecue.
1146
00:50:34.869 --> 00:50:38.849
They've never tasted food grilled like that. Because you can't
1147
00:50:38.869 --> 00:50:40.550
even hardly find a grill over there.
1148
00:50:40.829 --> 00:50:44.269
In looking at that project, I'm like, you are filling
1149
00:50:44.389 --> 00:50:47.119
a real cultural void over in the UAE.
1150
00:50:47.780 --> 00:50:49.980
It was such a beautiful place to go to, man.
1151
00:50:50.480 --> 00:50:53.619
The people are so warm and welcoming. And culturally, they're
1152
00:50:53.639 --> 00:50:58.079
just so diverse, you know. 160-some cultures and languages over there.
1153
00:50:58.460 --> 00:50:59.719
It's just a great place to.
1154
00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:02.179
Be, man. It's only two places.
1155
00:51:02.880 --> 00:51:05.039
In this world that I can wake up and not
1156
00:51:05.099 --> 00:51:07.510
have to factor in the fact that I'm black before
1157
00:51:07.550 --> 00:51:08.409
I go outside.
1158
00:51:09.449 --> 00:51:11.130
And that's the UAE and Africa.
1159
00:51:11.670 --> 00:51:11.969
Yeah.
1160
00:51:12.409 --> 00:51:15.269
Because see, for the first time in my life when
1161
00:51:15.309 --> 00:51:17.369
I go to Africa, it's for the first time ever
1162
00:51:17.389 --> 00:51:18.369
I'm not a minority.
1163
00:51:18.630 --> 00:51:18.909
No.
1164
00:51:19.630 --> 00:51:23.130
It's like crazy to wake up and not be a minority.
1165
00:51:23.730 --> 00:51:26.639
I just go, wow, man, how cool that must feel.
1166
00:51:27.239 --> 00:51:28.070
I'm in the majority.
1167
00:51:28.260 --> 00:51:30.630
You're on the billboards, you're on the newspapers, you're on
1168
00:51:30.650 --> 00:51:34.090
the television. You see yourself everywhere on the continent.
1169
00:51:39.409 --> 00:51:40.849
I want to say this before you go.
1170
00:51:42.550 --> 00:51:45.349
I was talking about what I want to be known for,
1171
00:51:45.489 --> 00:51:49.969
my legacy with changing the lives of so many boys
1172
00:51:50.389 --> 00:51:53.170
in my program and so many girls in Marjorie's program.
1173
00:51:53.190 --> 00:51:56.570
But I think for you all that are my children,
1174
00:51:57.739 --> 00:52:05.070
I think it's been most important for me that I'm there.
1175
00:52:05.909 --> 00:52:09.889
You can't need something, call me and I'll deliver. That
1176
00:52:09.929 --> 00:52:13.780
ain't what this is. And I'm so proud of all
1177
00:52:13.800 --> 00:52:16.619
of you for making your way in life. I want
1178
00:52:16.739 --> 00:52:19.699
all of you to be better than me, which really
1179
00:52:19.760 --> 00:52:23.260
ain't that hard. It ain't that hard to be better
1180
00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:25.969
than me. Now, you know, we might talk about the
1181
00:52:25.989 --> 00:52:27.829
amount of money you make and all like that, but
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that ain't what makes you better. The money you make
1183
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can't be the defining thing of who you are. Because
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as much money as I've made, that's not what I'm
1185
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famous for. I want to be famous for changing thousands
1186
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of boys' lives. That's what I want to be famous for.
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I want to be famous for bridging the cultural.
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Gap between Africa, America, the UAE.
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I want to do exchange programs with the UAE and
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Africa and all of this, man. I want to keep
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making people look at the similarities within themselves as opposed
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to the differences.
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I mean, you know, you look at your brother Jason, man.
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Jason is just the most amazing father I've ever seen.
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This little dude, man, he got five.
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Yeah.
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And he's the best dad I've ever seen. He's so
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much better at it than me. He puts it in.
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You know, you look at Wynton that's over there now
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making a way on his own. You with this podcast,
1201
00:53:27.190 --> 00:53:29.989
Carly done been in insurance. Carly got a family now.
1202
00:53:30.610 --> 00:53:33.900
Carly works. She's such a creative person. Y'all do stuff together.
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My oldest, Steve, you know, he works directly with me.
1204
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You know, he helps me in so many aspects of
1205
00:53:40.699 --> 00:53:43.760
my life. You know, we still shaping this chief of
1206
00:53:43.800 --> 00:53:47.250
staff role. But he getting it, you know, and his
1207
00:53:47.329 --> 00:53:50.559
willingness to do it is what's impressive. And for my sons,
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I just love the fact that they're kind men. My
1209
00:53:53.699 --> 00:53:58.030
sons are kind men. And they really are respectful of women.
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You know, what they go and do and become and
1211
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how much they make, I don't even care. I got
1212
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them to the point where I raised them in a
1213
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way where none of them went to jail.
1214
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Unlike their daddy.
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Nobody got somebody pregnant and walked off and left some
1216
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girl holding the bag. What you all have become, man,
1217
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you know, it's really been a prideful thing for me,
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you know, to be able to sit back and go, yeah,
1219
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they're my kids right there. And know that you all
1220
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are performing at a level, man, that makes me proud.
1221
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So it's what you become as people that matters to
1222
00:54:34.059 --> 00:54:36.579
me more than anything, the most important thing. And Lori,
1223
00:54:37.300 --> 00:54:40.219
Lori's out there working hard, you know, trying to make
1224
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a way. I feel sorry for your sister because, boy,
1225
00:54:43.110 --> 00:54:45.909
she out there in that life where it's just, that internet,
1226
00:54:45.949 --> 00:54:48.849
that ain't where you want to be, man. But she
1227
00:54:48.869 --> 00:54:51.429
pulling it together, you know, learning as she goes along,
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you know. I'm just really happy that everybody now, you know,
1229
00:54:58.610 --> 00:55:00.829
can lean on each other, count on each other.
1230
00:55:01.429 --> 00:55:03.949
Carly gave me BJ, you know. I still look at
1231
00:55:03.969 --> 00:55:04.510
that picture.
1232
00:55:04.969 --> 00:55:07.289
The first time her and Ben bought him and handed
1233
00:55:07.329 --> 00:55:08.929
him to me backstage.
1234
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It broke me.
1235
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Because this was my grandson. This dude is a piece
1236
00:55:13.199 --> 00:55:15.860
of me. And he's so fortunate to have a dad
1237
00:55:15.900 --> 00:55:18.199
that he got. He got a superstar father, man, that
1238
00:55:18.639 --> 00:55:22.280
puts time into his child like that. But, you know,
1239
00:55:22.360 --> 00:55:24.519
I'm looking at him. He just, he a lot of me.
1240
00:55:24.579 --> 00:55:26.320
I see a lot of stuff in him that's me,
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00:55:26.360 --> 00:55:28.139
you know. He's just turned out to be really good.
1242
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And that's probably what I'm most proud of, you know.
1243
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And God going to keep me here for a while
1244
00:55:32.280 --> 00:55:34.119
because I'm going to have a life of longevity.
1245
00:55:34.679 --> 00:55:36.579
Steve Harvey, as we close out.
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00:55:36.619 --> 00:55:37.260
One and only.
1247
00:55:37.889 --> 00:55:40.179
As we close out, one word you are committed to
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00:55:40.239 --> 00:55:41.300
in this season of your life.
1249
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Uplift. Uplift.
1250
00:55:43.550 --> 00:55:43.809
Why?
1251
00:55:44.829 --> 00:55:47.429
That's all it is for me. You know, I watched
1252
00:55:47.449 --> 00:55:51.829
the Kevin Hart roast the other day and it was funny,
1253
00:55:51.869 --> 00:55:55.250
but it was some parts where I cringed a little bit. And,
1254
00:55:55.269 --> 00:55:57.150
you know, I've been asked to do roast a lot
1255
00:55:57.190 --> 00:56:01.250
of times. I'm just not into that. So maybe one day,
1256
00:56:03.369 --> 00:56:06.179
instead of having a roast, I want to have a
1257
00:56:06.260 --> 00:56:09.980
toast where people really come out and celebrate somebody.
1258
00:56:10.440 --> 00:56:11.679
That is so good.
1259
00:56:11.860 --> 00:56:14.340
You know, instead of a roast, let's do a toast.
1260
00:56:14.559 --> 00:56:14.780
Yeah.
1261
00:56:16.090 --> 00:56:18.170
And that's, that's all it is because I'm in the
1262
00:56:18.289 --> 00:56:20.530
uplift business. I ain't in the tat out business.
1263
00:56:20.630 --> 00:56:20.889
Yeah.
1264
00:56:21.389 --> 00:56:23.590
You know, plus you say something crazy to me, you know,
1265
00:56:23.719 --> 00:56:25.920
you know, your daddy, I go the other way real fast.
1266
00:56:26.079 --> 00:56:28.019
Yeah. You know, you love a tussle.
1267
00:56:28.719 --> 00:56:30.500
And you know what, baby girl, you good at what
1268
00:56:30.539 --> 00:56:32.960
you do. You're really, really good at what you do.
1269
00:56:33.019 --> 00:56:35.619
Thank you. You have really, I mean, I've been watching
1270
00:56:35.639 --> 00:56:38.909
these podcasts. At first I said, well, let's see how
1271
00:56:38.949 --> 00:56:45.190
long she do this. And the only reason I'm sitting
1272
00:56:45.210 --> 00:56:49.510
here today, It's because you've become so good at it
1273
00:56:50.489 --> 00:56:52.849
that I want to be a part of it.
1274
00:56:52.869 --> 00:56:54.969
You know, I want to say, well, I did Brandy's show.
1275
00:56:55.210 --> 00:56:57.090
Come on. You know, because I'm looking at some of
1276
00:56:57.110 --> 00:56:59.690
the guests you be having. I be going down. So
1277
00:56:59.769 --> 00:57:01.429
I could just say I'm on that list.
1278
00:57:01.880 --> 00:57:04.119
You are on the list. Steve Harvey, the one and only.
1279
00:57:04.800 --> 00:57:07.920
Bottom Powers Talks. I am so honored.
1280
00:57:07.940 --> 00:57:08.719
What you crying for?
1281
00:57:08.820 --> 00:57:12.139
I don't know. You said the toast. You were like,
1282
00:57:12.199 --> 00:57:13.820
I don't want to do a roast. I want to
1283
00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:15.769
do a toast. I'm like, oh, that's so....
1284
00:57:17.980 --> 00:57:20.039
Why is she crying?
1285
00:57:20.059 --> 00:57:20.900
I don't even know.
1286
00:57:21.079 --> 00:57:23.960
Yeah, I'm saying, then I'm that dude, because I will cry.
1287
00:57:24.000 --> 00:57:27.130
But then when I don't know what you crying for,
1288
00:57:27.150 --> 00:57:28.039
it be messing me up.
1289
00:57:29.059 --> 00:57:32.659
Modern Powers Talks, another good one for the books. Steve Harvey, Dad,
1290
00:57:32.739 --> 00:57:34.449
I am so honored that you came and set it
1291
00:57:34.530 --> 00:57:37.849
in seed. I am so honored. You make me so proud.
1292
00:57:37.869 --> 00:57:40.869
I am so honored to be your daughter. Modern Powers Talks,
1293
00:57:40.989 --> 00:57:42.590
another good one for the books. Be sure to share
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00:57:42.610 --> 00:57:44.340
this with somebody who needs a little more uplift in
1295
00:57:44.360 --> 00:57:46.820
their life. Until next time, I'm your girl Brandi Harvey.
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Eat well, give a damn, move your body every single day.
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Peace!