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00:00:37.780Wherever you are on God's green earth, this is US Phenomenon and I'm your host, mario Magana, tonight.
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00:01:09.004If you're a Sasquatch enthusiast, if you are a Bigfoot enthusiast, if you have spent time like being intrigued by this mysterious cryptic bipedal animal, tonight we go to our favorite researcher and explorer, tom seawood, who's going to give us all the information, plus he's in a new tv series.
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00:01:13.578Let's talk to tom and ask him hey, tom, welcome back to us.
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00:01:18.284Phenomenon thanks for having me on again, mario you know.
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00:01:29.105Okay, so we know that you are Mr Everything Bigfoot, you know you got Sasquatch, you got it all dialed in right.
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00:01:39.254So my question to you is so there was these hikers that went missing during the Christmas holiday.
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00:01:44.266Have you heard anything, I mean, other than we know, that they died of exposure?
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00:01:49.956exposure.
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00:01:51.200Have you heard anything else from that?
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00:01:57.319Just pretty much just what was shared with Facebook on a few occasions and pretty much it was just a shared media release on that.
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00:01:59.807You know it's tragic number one.
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00:02:03.707You know I feel for their families, especially during the time of year that they passed.
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00:02:07.353But you know it's one of those things that you know I feel for their families, especially during the time of year that they passed.
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00:02:22.793But you know it's one of those things that you know it's just got to really make sure that you're prepared for it when you get out into the bush especially, you know, whenever you go to bush, especially in the wintertime, it's always be prepared for what happens.
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00:02:31.192If something happens where the sun goes down and you're stuck out there at night, temperatures drop, wind can come up, wind chill, you know.
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00:02:54.622So it's tragic what happened, but I imagine you know, with the shorter days, daylight during the days I imagine they probably lost daylight and got turned around and exposure got them it's unfortunate because I think a lot of people who, um, don't take guides or maybe they're, uh, self-proclaimed, you know explorers, things of that nature, tom, you've been doing this for such a long time what, what?
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00:03:03.046What really is sad about this is that these things could be prevented with, you know, having the right guide, the right team.
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00:03:05.793Uh, the right team, uh, the right, you know the being prepared.
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00:03:23.193I don't know, I don't know the situation, I don't know if they were not fully prepared, but when, when, when you hear they die of exposure, uh, out there looking for, you know, in in research for Sasquatch, to me that would be indications of signs of not being fully prepared.
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00:03:45.129And, and, and I mean mean for for all we know, from what the information has been told to us, yeah, like the decades I was in bush, you know one of the things we used to wear was those, uh, commercial called a mustang floater vest and they're just filled with pockets and of course they have a pull cord for a co2 cylinder to blow up.
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00:03:54.463So we wore those because they were green, they were light, you know, until we loaded the pockets and they were about 20 pounds depending on what you put in there.
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00:04:00.741But the back of it there was a big zipper like a backpack kind of thing.
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00:04:16.242But we always had a six by six or an eight by eight tarp in each of our vests and that's one of the best things to defeat exposure in the pacific northwest anyway is having that tarp.
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00:04:23.668It breaks the wind, it repels the water and the snow, it retains the body heat and I was, you know, there's.
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00:04:47.634I can't count in my two hands how many times those tarps and those vests or backpacks, you know, probably saved us when they're out there, because you know we're young and dumb back in when I was in my teens and 20s and but we always prepared like that and you know we always had extra lighters and, uh, some punk to get a fire going and the tarp and you know no blanket.
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00:04:51.346You know, and you know there's times we got turned around.
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00:04:54.380You know we never used to bring compasses when I was young.
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00:04:58.110Yeah and uh, you know you get turned around and darkness was coming.
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00:05:02.687So the first thing you did was find a place where there's some dry wood, hopefully get out of the wind and rain.
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00:05:05.351And you know, use your.
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00:05:09.605One of the tarps is a little string and like a tent.
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00:05:17.009Above you put a bunch of ferns and hemlock boughs down and you know you're elevated so the water ain't gonna get into your.
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00:05:27.067You know, backside when you're sitting down and laying down, and then that other tarp over top of us and then tucking it, you know a six by six or an eight by eight.
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00:05:35.526You know we woke up in the morning freezing cold but we're warm inside that tarp and you know, with the clothes that we had on and sometimes our clothes were wet.
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00:05:38.360So you always got to be prepared and it's.
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00:05:43.353You know, don't take it for granted just because it's a trail system.
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00:05:53.357You know, don't take much to be, especially if you're Sasquatch investigating and you hear something, smell something, you go to investigate off a main trail.
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00:05:58.071Well then, sasquatches are notorious to be in the thickest of thick.
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00:06:09.317So if you hear something or smell something and you're Sasquatch investigating, you know they're going to draw you into some pretty thick bush and before you know it you're all twisted and turned around.
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00:06:17.668The sun's gone down, you don't know which directions, what, and you're spending the night out there, and maybe a couple, and I think that's what happened to these guys.
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00:06:21.321Our guest tonight, tom Seawood from Sasquatch Island.
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00:06:23.165Thank you for for hanging out with us.
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00:06:26.853I know you're working on some new adventures For those who are out there.
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00:07:01.307As we were talking about the unfortunate passing of these explorers that were out there researching or looking for, trying to investigate for Sasquatch near Mount St Helens, mount Rainier and Mount Adams on that backside there on the south side, what would you tell someone who is out there doing research or maybe they're a novice, they're, you know, an amateur that wants to go out there and spend some more time in the bush, as you would say well, number one stay out of the yarn basket.
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00:07:04.161What the heck do you want to go in the bush for deep bush?
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00:07:11.401You know, the only one who came up spades going into deep bush was roger patterson and bob gimlin filming a sasquatch right.
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00:07:16.170Paul freeman was on a gravel road some 35 minutes from the highway.
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00:07:24.112I know I went up there last summer where the freeman footage was taken and he was at a water reservoir up very high ground.
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00:07:33.360So during the late fall, winter, early spring, when we have nasty weather, there's no need for you to be going way out into the thick timber.
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00:07:39.141You know it just increases the chances something might go wrong and you're going to end up like these two gentlemen that you know.
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00:07:40.547Unfortunately it was a tragedy.
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00:07:56.701Whereas you know, follow Sasquatch Island on Facebook, youtube, tiktok website, sasquatch Island on Facebook, youtube, tiktok website, sasquatchislandcom, and learn that the there's been a considerable increase of Sasquatch encounters in our urban edge.
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00:08:08.016So, going to an area and you know, getting the um x app or X hunting app, it shows you the properties and who owns it.
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00:08:17.807So you know that you can go to an urban edge like Enumclaw Buckley, up by Pyramid Mountain, I think it's called, where we did a lot of investigating.
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00:08:21.485Well, now that we have this app, peggy and I, I'm going to be able to go up there.
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00:08:24.300We know there's Sasquatch activity up there.
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00:08:39.549When the televisions go off and the lights go off downstairs and the bedroom lights go off, we're out there, parked on the side of the road, and we've heard a few years back, the chattering, the tree knocks, the whooping noises.
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00:08:50.751So we know the Sasquatches are coming in for the livestock feed in the barns and outbuildings, the fruit and vegetable in the backyards, the compost, the greenhouses.
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00:09:05.831And you know, using that X app, you're able to see where the private property is and see where the state or you know conservancy lands are where you're allowed to go in there at nighttime and daytime and investigate.
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00:09:10.672And that way, you know, you're increasing your chances number one of finding a Sasquatch.
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00:09:20.727You're decreasing your chances of ending up like these two men who were in deep bush looking for Sasquatch in the wintertime and exposure got them in the elements.
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00:09:27.847So you know, that's one of the things I could train people, and the other one is taking an expedition with me.
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00:09:33.504You know, come here to the Olympic Peninsula or, if you're Canadian or you want to go to Canada.
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00:09:55.611We can put an expedition on Vancouver Island and come out there and learn Indianuity what I've learned in a lifetime of being a busher commercial fisherman waterman hunting guide and let me teach you those tricks there's so many tricks out there in the bush to starting a fire, keeping the fire going and how to survive if things go sideways on you.
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00:09:58.948Tom, where's this app?
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00:10:03.466Is it available now, this app that you guys have going on, or is it still in demo mode?
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00:10:05.261Just a sec.
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00:10:07.668What's it called that app?
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00:10:08.630Property app?
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00:10:16.741Maggie's behind me on her studio there, but she's going to get the right name for it.
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00:10:17.966She has it in her phone.
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00:10:22.044Awesome On X Hunt.
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00:10:24.049O-N-X Hunt, so you Hunt.
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00:10:29.486Oh, okay, o-n-x Hunt, so you pay a few bucks for it.
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00:10:38.466But I was with the producer from Expedition Bigfoot back in the summer and he was the one.
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00:10:45.668It was funny because we were up in southwest of Fox and we were driving way back in the forest.
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00:10:54.863I was going to show him an ancient red cedar grove, that giant red cedars, and it's not on the map or anything, and no tourists go up there, just the local hunters and mushroom pickers.
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00:11:07.090But we got up there and because they were going to film possibly in this area, he needed to know if it was private land, what forest company hold the lease, if it was a conservancy.
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00:11:12.692And we got up to the yellow gate and all of a sudden he pulls out his cell phone and he starts looking at it.
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00:11:13.452And we had bars.
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00:11:20.369And all of a sudden he goes oh, that is a logging company behind us and on this side of the fence is a conservancy.
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00:11:24.345And I look over at this app and I'm like holy smokes, that's white man's magic.
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00:11:28.871You know, no offense to the non-Indians, but to me it was amazing.
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00:11:39.260You know now I know who owns this timber and you know.
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00:11:39.763So on X app or on X hunt.
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00:11:41.107That app is amazing For the dollars you're going to pay for it.
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00:11:45.241You can drive down the road here in Forks heading towards the whole rainforest to pay for it.
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00:11:54.506You can drive down the road here in forks heading towards the whole rainforest and you can see that there's the peterson ranch, there's the sullivan's property and so forth, and then small town like forks.
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00:12:07.735You go back and look and search the person's name for the property and, lo and behold, there's their phone number and even or ask someone in the grocery store and they go oh yeah, the Sullivans, yeah, they own this business.
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00:12:14.970Look on the website, find their email, communicate with them, get permission to go onto their private property and things like that.
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00:12:16.440So it's really amazing.
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00:12:20.510And then also it's going to help you so you don't get lost.
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00:12:24.750You know it's amazing that app for being out in the bush.
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00:12:31.428I wish I had that 40 years ago it's so amazing, tom, um, how there are the.
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00:12:47.393The technology has advanced so much and I know that you you do expeditions and, um, and in previous shows that we've done with you, uh, how much gear you take with you now, but how much this now enhances the, those experiences.
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00:13:09.924So if you haven't had a chance to go and hang out with tom and and do one of his expeditions, or if you want to go explore and you're like I need tom's, your tom's, your guy, I I will tell you tom has spent so much time on this on this show, podcast and radio broadcast, sharing knowledge with you guys across the, you know, across all platforms.
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00:13:39.865But what's so cool about tom and how he shares these legacies, these stories, how much time, how much blood, sweat and energy tom has taken to go out here and and share his story, uh, with everybody and his experiences in regards to what is out there, what's going on, and the one thing that most people may have not known about Tom is that he continues to be a forward thinker.
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00:13:41.889How we continue to evolve and to change.
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00:14:14.491How we continue to evolve and to change, to work with legislation to make sure that these areas are protected for indigenous Sasquatches, and that's something that we've talked about before on this show and to me, tom, the fascination for so many people that are out there that want to find the tangible, to find Sasquatch, um, to be, you know, to maybe snap that picture with them.
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00:14:20.360I want to say, you know, jokingly, like, take a selfie, cause that's what all the kids do nowadays, right, everyone's taking a selfie.
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00:14:31.107And um, other than going to a museum or going to downtown Seattle where there are these, you know, erected Sasquatches.
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00:14:38.993I know that there's one by the market, one that is carved that's inside the Pike Place market.
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00:14:45.857That has been there for who knows how long for forever that I can remember growing up.
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00:14:46.719It's still there, it's.
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00:14:48.539It's on the lower level on first Avenue.
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00:14:57.217If you're looking to have a, a, a selfie with a Sasquatch, you can go there and be safe.
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00:14:59.163You won't, you won't, you won't become a.
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00:15:07.065I think, as Tom said, a, a, a turd, a leftover from a hot turd or something like that I think you've said in the past.
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00:15:09.268A steaming turd in the forest.
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00:15:17.424Yeah, tom, you know when we go over everything and how, just in the past, this tragic accident with these young.
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00:15:27.101You know these explorers, these expedition people that have gone out there, look, make sure you take your stuff with you, make sure you have a guide.
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00:15:44.166If you're, if you are not, you're not fully prepared to be out in the bush, in the woods, especially the deep woods, and and this time of year, remember october you know if you're going to explore and you know that's the same thing I tell I, I, you know I've, you're going to explore.
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00:15:45.147You know this is the same thing I tell I.
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00:15:46.208You know I've talked about many shows before.
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00:15:53.352Hikers seem to love to push the limit and by all means do your thing, but remember you may not come out alive.
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00:16:09.673So when you're out by Mount Rainier, in your national forest, in the Mount Rainier National Forest, the Olympic Peninsula, or you're in the Olympic National Parks, you need to be prepared and have the tools and onset to move forward so that if something happens to you, you have the proper tools to get out.
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00:16:12.984Or you're going to be another case on the missing 411.
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00:16:14.606Okay, that's what's just going to happen.
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00:16:18.621Uh, tom, uh, you know thanks for hanging out with us tonight.
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00:16:21.931So let's talk about some new things that you've been working on.
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00:16:22.561Let's I?
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00:16:25.470I know that you've been pushing some new stuff and I was like I gotta have tom on.
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00:16:30.003He's pushing something new and every time you're doing something new, you're always moving.
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00:16:31.626You got a lot going on.
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00:16:41.152So let's talk about some of your new stuff well, we really kicked it up, investigating where you know.
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00:16:49.404I remember hearing people saying if you have sasquatches banging on your house and disrupting things and scaring you, just put trail cameras out.
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00:16:50.187They'll disappear.
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00:16:55.548You know, I chuckled because I actually captured a Sasquatch a blurry one, mind you on a trail camera.
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00:16:58.106But I never use the straps.
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00:17:07.942If I can help it, I try to find an old, big, rotten stump or a log and dig a hole in it and put the trail camera in there and camouflage it with some moss.
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00:17:10.648Yeah, and that's how I bingoed that sasquatch.
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00:17:14.204It actually walked up to the stump, knocked the camera off, I guess.
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00:17:18.032And when I walked up to it it wasn't in the stump and I looked.
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00:17:18.921I'm like what the heck?
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00:17:20.763Someone steal my camera right.
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00:17:33.731And it was on van Island, you know, probably about maybe 500 yards up from a camping area, up a bluff, on forest, and I thought maybe a human got it.
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00:17:38.892And then all of a sudden, as I walked towards the stump, there's my trail camera facing up on its back.
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00:17:40.506Look, with the lens pointing up.
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00:17:43.311And all of a sudden I'm like the person that was with me.
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00:17:45.741I'm like stop, don't you see the tracks?
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00:17:47.003Look at those tracks.
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00:17:52.403You know you can see big like 15, 16 inch impressions in the moss by the camera.
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00:17:57.542So I grabbed the camera and of course check the data thing and uh, you know, we got those little viewers.
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00:17:59.488You plug into your cell phone and everything.
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00:18:02.904Sometimes we even bring our laptops with us so we can view them right in the field.
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00:18:09.527But we anyway reviewed the data card and you can see where the camera got hit.
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00:18:12.663You can see the spinning of the timber as we're going.
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00:18:13.405Click, click, click.
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00:18:22.708You can see the timber spinning trees and the last picture was a right arm Sasquatch looking like a chimpanzee leaning into the camera on the ground.
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00:18:27.561So trail cameras do work, just don't use the straps, if you can help it.
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00:18:50.465But then again, we've got approached by someone almost two months ago and me and buddy went down and did an interview with him and he has uh property on the peninsula here and uh young, two young daughters, one nine, one about a year and a half, two years old and a wife and a lot of activity Knocking on the house.
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00:19:09.989He's been gifting them, they've been taking food, he's left out, took pictures of the tracks and the frost and on the wet grass in the morning, goes to work at 3.30 in the morning to start his truck up and something smells bad, hears something, something jumps and explodes through the bush.
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00:19:16.906His cat's hiding under the house yowling away or under his truck, and his cat lives outside.
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00:19:22.210So all of a sudden he started putting motion detector lights out.
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00:19:24.500They'd go on, he'd check, see nothing.
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00:19:32.711And then lo and behold, after putting a ring video camera out there, putting motion detector lights out, they'd go on, he'd check, see nothing.
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00:19:35.234And then, lo and behold, after putting a ring video camera out there, he captured.
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00:19:39.099Looked like he was over eight foot tall, peeked out from behind his house and then turned and disappeared again.
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00:19:43.259And that's on the back of his house where the two-bedroom windows are for his daughters and him and his wife.
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00:19:53.171So we went down, did the interview, realized he wasn't a whack job or a woo-woo, and so we decided to put some chips on his square.
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00:19:55.606So we brought some trail cameras down.
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00:19:56.650Peggy got involved.
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00:20:13.690She's behind me there at Operation Sasquatch, her studio, where she'll cell phone a ping and then she's got a live feed watching the cameras as he goes out to replace bait or clean the lenses, because it's foggy.
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00:20:16.087Tonight I imagine he'll be cleaning lenses on the cameras.
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00:20:27.751So we're dialed in and we've got audio recorders and trail cameras in the bush, but we're not getting anything and they've actually quit coming to the bait station now that we've put trail cameras out.
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00:20:42.628But you know, I'm telling Peggy, tell him, pull all the cameras in, we'll just go with the audio equipment and him as our bait, with the cell phone, with the FLIR and the FLIR monoscope that we've lent him and GoPro on his hat yeah.
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00:20:43.924And let him go out.
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00:20:53.351Well, he's been doing that and he's GoPro'd, videoed two big eyes, not 60 feet from him, inside the bush.
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00:21:14.642And he went in and, you know, of course, did the follow-up measurements and he estimated it and he got some other people to analyze the film as well and give him the distances, distances, and they were thinking that that thing was over seven and a half feet tall, and you know, and then he's, you know, busting his butt trying to capture it.
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00:21:15.933And that's what you got to do with.
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00:21:16.761Sasquatch is.
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00:21:18.200You know, it's not one of those things.
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00:21:21.915You go out once, put a few cameras out and, bingo, you get a Sasquatch.
00:21:21.915 -->
00:21:42.559You just got to keep pounding, you know, as they try to catch the big old king salmon, you always see the advertising and the ego videos of these massive 60 plus pound king salmon chinooks, whether it be in alaska, patagonia, chile or northwest canada, us.
00:21:42.861 -->
00:21:44.385You see these pictures right.
00:21:44.385 -->
00:21:52.891But how many times do you actually go fishing for Chinook king salmon and actually get the big 64-pound-plus monster?
00:21:52.891 -->
00:21:53.432Not me.
00:21:53.432 -->
00:21:55.708Well, the biggest one I caught was 48 pounds.
00:21:55.708 -->
00:22:02.785I haven't cracked the 50-pound mark yet but I've seen some over 90 pounds commercial fishing on a seine boat that we've caught.
00:22:02.785 -->
00:22:08.066I know they're out there but you know that's like a Sasquatch, it's like a king salmon.
00:22:08.066 -->
00:22:18.265You might catch 150 king salmon under 35 pounds and die never catching that 40-pound plus or 60-pound plus.
00:22:18.265 -->
00:22:23.061But we know people catch them and that's how you got to look at Sasquatch Pitter-patter.
00:22:23.061 -->
00:22:24.406Get at her and don't give up.
00:22:24.406 -->
00:22:25.210Be tenacious.
00:22:26.221 -->
00:22:28.087When you guys are out here doing this research.
00:22:28.087 -->
00:22:36.611Now are you guys obviously you're tracking where you're having these like, you're spotting or having these encounters with Sasquatch.
00:22:36.611 -->
00:22:47.520So are you basically having doing a map I guess it would be a map with hotspots and where you guys are estimating the these sasquatches to be.
00:22:47.520 -->
00:22:51.269So, like, when you go back out, do you go back to the same places?
00:22:51.269 -->
00:23:03.509Or do you kind of, with your experience, tom, do you say, hey look, we've been here, this is what the pattern looks like from the last, for example, the last three sessions we've gone out, we've had two hits from this location.
00:23:03.509 -->
00:23:15.648But the further we go in with your experience, are you kind of like almost like forecasting where you guys are going to move next when you guys are out here looking for a Sasquatch?
00:23:17.040 -->
00:23:26.303After living in a bush for decades and hating humans so much in the early 90s, and another time where I disappeared and went in the bush for weeks, months on end.
00:23:26.303 -->
00:23:28.886At one time I lived like a Sasquatch.
00:23:28.886 -->
00:23:35.567I even went feral because I hadn't spoken into any humans for over 200 days and I ran out of cigarettes and coffee.
00:23:35.567 -->
00:23:59.634That really makes you go feral, sure, but anyway I was a Sasquatch, living like a Sasquatch, walking and grabbing, bending down and rolling over rocks on the beach and eating, digging in the muds of a riverbank to find shellfish, or on the saltwater beach, digging in the sediment to find shellfish and plucking barnacles off rocks and cooking them and sucking barnacle meat out.
00:23:59.634 -->
00:24:03.410So I always put myself in their very feet.
00:24:03.410 -->
00:24:08.311So I look at an area like here in Forks on the peninsula.
00:24:08.311 -->
00:24:15.211Me and Peggy have a rule we try to keep within a half-hour driving radius of the house.
00:24:15.211 -->
00:24:16.744Why go further?
00:24:16.744 -->
00:24:21.371Number one stay and I'm going to say it, it's going to be blunt.
00:24:21.371 -->
00:24:25.054Stay out of the pubic hair of North America, the yarn basket.
00:24:25.054 -->
00:24:26.259Stay out of the pubic hair of North America, the yarn basket.
00:24:26.259 -->
00:24:28.059Stay out of the forest.
00:24:28.059 -->
00:24:34.420If you can't see 60 yards, then you are never going to find a Sasquatch.
00:24:34.420 -->
00:24:47.229Just the lucky Albertan elk hunters, bow hunting, with video camera going buddy grabs the camera, give me that he films a Sasquatch got surprised because he was walking and saw them.
00:24:47.229 -->
00:24:57.851Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin Patty was in the creek, yeah, getting a drink of water, maybe looking for her food, but she couldn't hear the horses or smell the humans on them coming.
00:24:57.851 -->
00:25:08.340And all of a sudden she stood up and we know what Patty did walked in frame 352 looking at the humans and horses in the bush and gone.
00:25:08.340 -->
00:25:12.973And paul freeman, you know, oh, there's one and it disappears.
00:25:12.973 -->
00:25:33.412They just analyzed it now and found that a sasquatch actually bends down and picks up a infant that was in the ferns and the bushes up there and independence day sasquatch and a couple other really blurry ones that are out there, that those are the only ones that we see a few seconds of a sasquatch.
00:25:33.412 -->
00:25:46.673So if you're going to bingo a sasquatch, so the keyboard warriors and the government appointed trolls and social media don't negatively comment about what you produce, then you're going to have to be out in the open.
00:25:46.673 -->
00:26:05.832So go to a shellfish beach on a big low tide, use your flers at night, because that's when they're more than likely going to be out there, as we bingoed one for 16 minutes 40 seconds with a fler, with Stephen Major and Adam Davies, on a yacht up on east of Vancouver Island some four years ago in February.
00:26:06.720 -->
00:26:09.670And look at the transition zones.
00:26:09.670 -->
00:26:13.017They sleep on top of a mountain knoll.
00:26:13.017 -->
00:26:14.987I got that looks like a breast.
00:26:14.987 -->
00:26:20.352So when you're in an area that you have Sasquatch activity, look around.
00:26:20.352 -->
00:26:51.009When you see that knoll, that little mount that looks like a female breast, the females young, sick and elderly will be at the nipple, sleeping during the daytime, beneath and around, taking advantage of the smell, the hearing, the sound, the sight are the scouts, harvesters and hunters, and if one of them sees or comes across a threat like a human, and if one of them sees or comes across a threat like a human, morse code all the way up to the nipple.
00:26:51.009 -->
00:27:00.981And the clan is ready to move when they're given another order to evacuate on this direction and windage and so forth and go to rally point one and we'll meet you after we steer the threat away from right.
00:27:01.804 -->
00:27:08.686So, looking like that and now've got to look at the transition zone, how are they going from that mount down below?
00:27:08.686 -->
00:27:09.950Well, look at that mount.
00:27:09.950 -->
00:27:15.527It comes down to hydroline and it's all clear of brush.
00:27:15.527 -->
00:27:17.832There's a major transition zone.
00:27:17.832 -->
00:27:24.086The mount comes down and there's a stream that leads down to the farm fields or to the orchards.
00:27:24.086 -->
00:27:28.590That leads down to the farm fields or to the orchards, wineries or the saltwater area where the shellfish are.
00:27:28.590 -->
00:27:36.982So you're looking at where they sleep, on the nipple of the mount, the transition zone.
00:27:36.982 -->
00:27:37.807That might take us three hours to walk.
00:27:37.807 -->
00:27:51.454It takes a Sasquatch probably under an hour and 20 minutes and then they're going to go feed, fill their belly as fast as they can with a high-abundance seasonal protein or the Urban Edge human produced 12 months of the year protein.
00:27:52.180 -->
00:28:02.449And we're seeing so many encounters now where we interview people in a neighborhood and you find out that pretty much everyone has stories about Sasquatch in their backyards.
00:28:02.449 -->
00:28:13.778Pretty much everyone has stories about Sasquatch in their backyards, something going into their greenhouse, something keeps cleaning out the compost, the potato peels and other foods, so they know that the humans are producing.
00:28:13.778 -->
00:28:32.790And where we are right now there's a restaurant close by some 350 to 400 yards away from the house, through the timber, and the back of the restaurant there's just a small garbage can, but apparently the dumpster had been pushed away from the back of the restaurant and dumped on its side.
00:28:32.790 -->
00:28:38.351Black bear wouldn't do that and there's no grizzly bears on the olympic peninsula and you know.
00:28:38.351 -->
00:28:57.821So, looking at all of that abundant protein on that place we're investigating by buddy's house, there's a home, that a lot of homes, you know, just about 20 of them down there in that urban edge area, but one of them's got a greenhouse in two months ago that you can see the grapevine leaves all over the what do you call it?
00:28:57.821 -->
00:28:58.784Trellis or whatever.
00:28:58.784 -->
00:29:08.153Off the greenhouse, yeah, there's fruit trees, there's a salmon river, there's the edge of a lake where I went down and confirmed there's freshwater shellfish.
00:29:08.153 -->
00:29:16.090So this place we're investigating the chance of putting your chips on the square and coming up win on a roulette table.
00:29:16.090 -->
00:29:17.252This is a good one.
00:29:17.252 -->
00:29:26.856It's got everything Timber mount, lake, salmon river, human-produced proteins, mount lake, salmon River, human-produced proteins.
00:29:27.579 -->
00:29:28.603And of course you've got to factor in Sasquatch.
00:29:28.603 -->
00:29:32.392Especially the younger males are very curious about children.
00:29:32.392 -->
00:29:50.791So when he was out there in the summer the last couple of years and the daughter's playing and twittering and chirping and laughing and falling down and crying because she skinned her knee, there's a Sasquatch watching and all of a sudden they start smelling things, having activity.
00:29:50.791 -->
00:29:53.567It even went so far as a month ago.
00:29:53.567 -->
00:30:00.171Him and his wife were in bed, heard something and he thought something was thrown on the roof.
00:30:00.171 -->
00:30:05.166The next morning he goes out and investigates and his eaves trough is dented.
00:30:05.166 -->
00:30:14.768So something at a nine-and-a-half-foot level hit that eaves trough and dented it and it was probably just sending a message.
00:30:15.359 -->
00:30:16.267What the hell are you doing?
00:30:16.307 -->
00:30:19.925Letting these strangers come on your property and put all these trail cameras all around?
00:30:19.925 -->
00:30:23.829And traipsing around Because that Indian you brought down here, he smells, watched him, he knows what he's doing in the bush.
00:30:23.829 -->
00:30:26.782And traipsing around because that indian you brought down here, he smells, watched him, he knows what he's doing in the bush.
00:30:26.782 -->
00:30:31.643He was pointing at our tracks and where we're standing, watching your bedroom windows, right.
00:30:31.643 -->
00:30:34.628So you know scouts are always out there.
00:30:34.628 -->
00:31:16.570So you got to be very aware of that and you know, coming out with me on an expedition, not only do I, we have thousands of dollars of equipment, flares and parabolic listening devices, audio, high-end audio recorders, p1000, nikon trail cameras, binoculars, range finders, but most of all, we got what's up in the baldest head the knowledge and experience of decades in the bush and many years living like a sasquatch, so I can bring you out and teach you, so that I'm going to help you get a increase your chances of getting a close encounter of the hairy kind when you go investigating our guest tonight, uh tom seawood from sasquatch island.
00:31:16.590 -->
00:31:18.982You can go to his website, um tom.
00:31:18.982 -->
00:31:35.839What's interesting to me and we've had these conversations multiple times, I've had multiple people I will say I was listening to a show last night that is very old and has been around for a long time Now.
00:31:35.839 -->
00:31:51.455It is not my radio show, but I was listening to the legendary Art Bell last night and in in my, um, in my, in in my, in this youtube vid, uh, stream of art bell.
00:31:51.516 -->
00:32:06.047he had a lady who lived in texas who said that she had an encounter with a sasquatch, but the sasquatch I should not be laughing took her clothes that were being hung in on.
00:32:06.047 -->
00:32:30.432You know, for most people who don't do this, you know, in Texas, maybe some people, maybe some people here across the United States still do this where they hang their clothes to dry that she lost a flannel and that the Sasquatch was wearing the flannel.
00:32:30.432 -->
00:32:41.189I'm trying not to laugh because I was like half asleep and half awake and I had to go back this morning and re-listen.
00:32:41.189 -->
00:32:51.590Sure enough, with a straight face, this lady shared that the sasquatch had taken some of her clothes and was trying to wear the clothes.
00:32:51.832 -->
00:32:57.186I guess and I guess that would be the urban piece that you were talking about how they're?
00:32:57.186 -->
00:32:58.410You know they're curious.
00:32:58.410 -->
00:33:07.971Maybe you know the younger uh, playing around and and looking for food or gathering things.
00:33:07.971 -->
00:33:10.315What makes me think about this piece?
00:33:10.315 -->
00:33:20.729I mean they resemble an ape, a human, and I mean they got to be smart as hell, right, tom?
00:33:20.729 -->
00:33:34.088I mean I can't imagine that we've gone this long in existence, and it's like cat and mouse, I mean, they definitely know what the hell they're doing.
00:33:36.640 -->
00:33:42.768It's because humans, the hairless bipedal, think exactly the way you just did right there.
00:33:42.768 -->
00:33:44.365They must be smart.
00:33:44.365 -->
00:33:46.405They're the perfect human.
00:33:46.405 -->
00:33:57.125They have forgotten more about bush, windage and stealth and breaking silhouette and using your ears and your nose than most humans will ever know.
00:33:57.125 -->
00:34:11.416And I went feral and I was in the bush for months when I saw that helicopter land and I came down the mountain to the timber and all I kept thinking about was oh, I hope one of them is a smoker.
00:34:11.416 -->
00:34:15.038And I could hear them talking.
00:34:15.038 -->
00:34:22.027And as I come through the bush and pulled the branch down, they were taking their lunch break.
00:34:22.027 -->
00:34:24.516The helicopter had taken off after dumping them, but they were doing their forest survey work.
00:34:24.516 -->
00:34:32.030And I could see the girl pouring a thermos of coffee and I could smell the coffee that had sugar and milk in it.
00:34:32.030 -->
00:34:39.351And I could see the guy eating the sandwich, but I could smell the peanut butter and jam and the yeast.
00:34:39.351 -->
00:34:43.849And the guy smoking a cigarette, even though he was sidewind on me.
00:34:43.849 -->
00:34:51.822I could smell and smoke, because that's how in tune my nose was, being in the bush for so long, using all your senses.
00:34:52.525 -->
00:35:01.572It's like when people say you know, geez, how did your ancestors you see the black and white photos of them and you know they might have a cedar bark with a little bit of fur cape on.
00:35:01.572 -->
00:35:04.780They might have a cedar bark with a little bit of fur or cape on and bare legs and no shoes, no sandals.
00:35:04.780 -->
00:35:06.204How did they do that?
00:35:06.204 -->
00:35:08.148It's so cold out there and wet.
00:35:08.148 -->
00:35:18.170They become acclimatized, they become used to it and so we're so pampered me right now I got to have the heat at 73 degrees when I come home from work.
00:35:18.170 -->
00:35:24.039Back in the day, when I was out in the bush, I never had a thermostat yet.
00:35:24.039 -->
00:35:24.460I was never cold.
00:35:24.460 -->
00:35:28.068You know, I just layered up and took layers off and added more.
00:35:28.068 -->
00:35:30.032So the sasquatches.
00:35:30.032 -->
00:35:43.572They're so in tune with everything and that's why when we do spook them, all we see is that look and then that shoulders turn and that back and the feet coming up and they disappear in the bush.
00:35:43.572 -->
00:35:57.452They don't want anything to do with this, but the most reason why we don't see them is because they see us, hear us, smell us, notice us, observe us, way before we even know they're in the area.
00:35:57.452 -->
00:35:59.001So you've got to.
00:35:59.001 -->
00:36:17.112Really, you know you can't just go out there and traipse around like you're hiking down a trail in a park or hunting with your gun over your shoulder or your pistol on your side, they smell that gunpowder and gun oil and see it.
00:36:17.112 -->
00:36:19.166They're never going to show themselves.
00:36:19.981 -->
00:36:48.596And you know they're so superior in how they and where they live in the forest and that's why you know, coming with me and getting trained on bush tactics and stealth and breaking silhouette, how to use your ears properly, how to train your nose, you know, back when I lived in the bush, you know I could go to Telegraph Cove on Eastern Vancouver Island or Alert Bay and close the bar down and it's misty, fog and pitch black.
00:36:48.596 -->
00:37:07.742With my compass, with a red light on it, my 18-and-a-half-foot speedy boat with a 60-horse Mercury on the back, I could take off and make it back to my float house or my cabin whatever one I was in at that time, or my boat anchored out, when I had one I was using.
00:37:07.742 -->
00:37:08.603How did I do that?
00:37:08.603 -->
00:37:11.148With all the fancy electronics, indinuity?
00:37:11.148 -->
00:37:14.813You know I'd follow the shore, hit it with a flashlight.
00:37:14.813 -->
00:37:25.407Every now and then I could see the phosphorescence splashing against the rocks and the gravel and all of a sudden there's the green flashing light coming out of the fog, there's the light, navigation aid.
00:37:25.847 -->
00:37:30.688So I get there, I light a cigarette, I turn on my compass course, I know, to get me across the channel.
00:37:30.688 -->
00:37:39.239But before I take off from the seeing the green light and light my cigarette, I slow my speedboat down, put it in neutral and turn off the ignition.
00:37:39.239 -->
00:37:45.793And I listen no big cruise ships, no freight, no tugboats, no other boats.
00:37:45.793 -->
00:37:49.090I could hear them further away, but they're not going to come near me.
00:37:49.090 -->
00:37:53.943And then I started up and I zip off on my compass course smoking my cigarette.
00:37:53.943 -->
00:37:54.646And I just lit up.
00:37:54.646 -->
00:38:03.527And I know that when I get to the point where I flick my cigarette I better get ready to put my hand on the throttle, because I'm going like 17 knots.
00:38:03.527 -->
00:38:11.485And then I'm traveling, traveling, traveling on my compass course and all of a sudden, boom, the smell of seaweed, kelp, bull, kelp.
00:38:11.485 -->
00:38:14.291Slow right down, put the flashlight up.
00:38:14.291 -->
00:38:15.920Oh, there's the kelp patch.
00:38:15.920 -->
00:38:19.889Okay, follow the shore again, get down here, shoot across.
00:38:20.610 -->
00:38:22.614So I was using ingenuity.
00:38:22.614 -->
00:38:30.010I was using a cigarette instead of looking at a watch that would blind me, because it was digital and I needed that night vision when I was traveling.
00:38:30.010 -->
00:38:32.469That's why the compass light was red it doesn't blind you.
00:38:32.469 -->
00:38:41.536So there's tricks that I know that can keep you from as when we began this podcast freezing to death out there.
00:38:41.536 -->
00:38:48.735There's tricks that I can teach you to increase your chances of a close encounter of the hairy kind, be it with me or afterwards.
00:38:48.735 -->
00:38:53.666And there's tricks to knowing where those sasquatches are like right now.
00:38:54.469 -->
00:38:56.833The olympic peninsula is very unique.
00:38:56.833 -->
00:39:12.333For the olympic peninsula washington state, puget, all the way to Alaska, because it's the only place I know that has year-round salmon and steelhead spawning in the shallow water of the creek streams and going up the rivers.
00:39:12.333 -->
00:39:28.371And then you have all the elk and the deer and the urban edge produced foods, the shellfish on the beaches, the smelt hooligans that come into the rivers in the springtime, the perch that are on the beaches that come in and surf to spawn.
00:39:28.371 -->
00:39:46.793This is an abundant, abundant food source for them and that's why I figure there's 165 to 220-plus Sasquatches just on the Olympic Plains alone and that's why we get so many reports on a weekly basis is just on the Olympic Peninsula alone, and that's why we get so many reports on a weekly basis.
00:39:46.813 -->
00:39:47.996Are you now this project that you're working on?
00:39:47.996 -->
00:40:01.528Are you sending some of the researchers up into the national park, or are you just doing the research around, like more on the peninsula itself, like more on the ocean side?
00:40:01.528 -->
00:40:06.885Or are you spending more time, like on the San Juan, the Port Angeles side?
00:40:06.885 -->
00:40:11.630Where are you sending them, mostly when you guys are doing this?
00:40:11.659 -->
00:40:13.601I'm not sending any research To me.
00:40:13.601 -->
00:40:14.784There is no researchers.
00:40:14.784 -->
00:40:25.322Until we get a Diane Fossey, jane Goodall interaction, then you're a researcher, everyone's a bumbling, stumbling, speculating investigator and I'm one of them, an investigator.
00:40:25.322 -->
00:40:35.827So you know people are, you know I work not closely, but you know, every few months I'll communicate with, uh, shane corson, with the olympic project.
00:40:35.827 -->
00:40:41.690Yeah, so when I first got here, you know I phoned him up and say, hey, look, it's end of april, I'm living here on the olympic peninsula.
00:40:41.690 -->
00:40:44.007I just wanted to parlay in protocol with you.
00:40:44.007 -->
00:40:47.210Is it all right if I investigate Sasquatch out here on the peninsula?
00:40:47.210 -->
00:40:52.152And he goes, tom, as you've noticed, the peninsula is vast.
00:40:52.152 -->
00:40:54.123He goes, how about?
00:40:54.123 -->
00:40:59.307Where you operate is from Crescent Lake towards Port Angeles area.
00:40:59.307 -->
00:41:04.851How about you look after Crescent Lake towards the West Coast Forks area.
00:41:04.851 -->
00:41:09.181Yeah, okay, so we don't step over each other's toes, and you know.
00:41:09.181 -->
00:41:25.355But we interact and communicate and share information and you know, if I have questions I'll phone David Ellis from the Olympic Project, living in Whitby Island, and you know he, you know, gives me his consultation and you know he, you know, gives me his consultation.
00:41:25.355 -->
00:41:25.757And uh, you know.
00:41:25.757 -->
00:41:29.586So, going out, the researchers, the ones that call them researchers.
00:41:29.927 -->
00:41:36.748Sure you know, one of the things I find here in the us is a lot of people still have that gunslinger attitude.
00:41:36.748 -->
00:41:40.304It's like you know they don't want to interact with one another.
00:41:40.304 -->
00:41:46.469You know they'll spend more bad-mouthing and backstabbing than they will cooperating and communicating.
00:41:46.469 -->
00:41:49.289And I don't get involved with the politics of that level.
00:41:49.289 -->
00:41:56.447You know I'll make a few statements from time to time about some negative idiots that are out there, but in the most case I'm just investigating.
00:41:56.447 -->
00:42:13.088But my door is open, my phone is ready to be answered, my email is there, my messenger's there, and today someone walked in the store who lives here, not 15, 10 miles down the road, and now he's going to invite Peggy and I to his property, which is pretty big, because he has Sasquatch activity.
00:42:13.088 -->
00:42:14.704Buddy down the highway.
00:42:14.824 -->
00:42:18.525We're working with him investigating Another buddy just up the road.
00:42:18.525 -->
00:42:23.610Here he's almost either daily or every other day.
00:42:23.610 -->
00:42:29.509He's communicating with us and where you know he's observing that area, we go out into the field.
00:42:30.190 -->
00:42:48.971But you know one of the things for the listeners, if they do want to come, you know we're going to use that on x app yeah go for a ride up what we call the razorback and other areas and we're going to find a prime area for May and June, elevated, to have a rendezvous where we'll get permission from the logging company.
00:42:48.971 -->
00:42:52.650We'll get permission from whoever else we have to.
00:42:52.650 -->
00:42:54.967If we have to get a permit, we'll get one.
00:42:54.967 -->
00:43:02.085But we're going to go up there and have a Sasquatch camp out for, you know, probably three nights, four days, so you can come park here.
00:43:02.085 -->
00:43:06.233You know I wouldn't bring a trailer because these are logging roads and we're going to be up pretty high.
00:43:06.233 -->
00:43:14.112So, you know, bring in a camper or tent and you know, we're going to charge, you know, probably a few bucks per person.
00:43:14.559 -->
00:43:16.981We've got to pay for it because I'm going to have to take days off work.
00:43:16.981 -->
00:43:19.563So is Buddy, and you know we're going to go out there.
00:43:19.563 -->
00:43:29.909And we've got to pay Peggy because she's going to put the mask and regalia on and do the performance that we do at conferences out in the middle of Timbukno or on top of some razorback ridge.
00:43:29.909 -->
00:43:38.974So we have a 300 degree observation area and hopefully we're going to bingo a Sasquatch and vocalizing.
00:43:38.974 -->
00:43:41.155Maybe we'll pick it up on our high end flurs.
00:43:41.155 -->
00:43:44.478That's why we're going on that Razorback, because we've done it before.
00:43:44.478 -->
00:43:50.106It'd be a good experience for other people to come out and interact with us, learn from us.
00:43:50.106 -->
00:43:59.349We're going to do how to pour cast demonstrations, how to use audio recorders, how to use parabolic mics, how to use flurs properly.
00:43:59.349 -->
00:44:04.862It's going to be an expedition of a lifetime for a lot of people who've never done one.
00:44:05.222 -->
00:44:18.443I think it's so cool, tom, that you're doing this and it really boots on ground, getting the education, uh, like I mean, what better way than to learn, than to do the work right, to learn the process?
00:44:18.443 -->
00:44:42.188Not being in, uh, in a cozy you know classroom learning and you know looking through researchers and books and things of that nature but going out to a site to be able to firsthand have experience, to do the casting, to be able to look over how to use the tools that you got, uh, that prepare you guys for your guys's expeditions.
00:44:42.188 -->
00:44:45.775What an amazing opportunity.
00:44:45.775 -->
00:44:50.311What I love to do, tom, too, while we're sitting here doing the show.
00:44:50.311 -->
00:44:54.670If someone's interested, please go to Tom's email.
00:44:54.670 -->
00:44:58.010You can go to his website, sasquatchislandcom.
00:44:58.010 -->
00:45:01.608You can click on his name, you just scroll down and email Tom.
00:45:01.608 -->
00:45:04.081Or, if you're interested, you know, let us know.
00:45:04.081 -->
00:45:07.871Send me a text 775-990-5151.
00:45:07.871 -->
00:45:16.971If you're listening on the radio stations across our us phenomenon radio network, please let us know.
00:45:16.971 -->
00:45:18.434We'd love to hear from you, tom.
00:45:18.434 -->
00:45:24.452Of course, as things get closer for you, you know we're going to have to have you come back on to talk about all this good stuff.
00:45:24.452 -->
00:45:29.266You know that and you know, once you go live with this thing.
00:45:29.266 -->
00:45:31.248We definitely have to have you come back on.
00:45:31.248 -->
00:45:45.413We're going to pump it, we're going to promote it and, who knows, maybe we'll do something cool and you know who knows, maybe we'll go up there ourselves and take some video for you know, for some social media stuff, for people to.
00:45:45.413 -->
00:45:47.735You know, look at, have first-hand experience.
00:45:48.760 -->
00:46:05.655Tom, what's so interesting about what you were saying a few minutes ago about you know this is you know how there's so many people out here doing this, but there are so many people bad-mouthing each other and it's really it's a small community right Of of.
00:46:06.275 -->
00:46:19.942You know, people that are out here that are looking for in search of uh evidence, if it's uh Sasquatch themselves, if it's uh a footprint, if it's whatever evidence that they're looking for.
00:46:20.023 -->
00:46:29.556To me it just seems like the community is so small why anybody in that community, or any community in general, would be bad mouthing each other.
00:46:29.556 -->
00:46:53.864And I know that there is so many different avenues and realms and folklore legends of how people are looking for sasquatch, or even have said, uh, that sasquatch may not even be from here, you know, um, so I know that there's all types of different versions of what people are saying out there and I know that, uh, for me.
00:46:53.864 -->
00:47:05.659I always tell everyone I, if I'm going to have this experience for me and this is just me I believe that sasquatch is indigenous to the planet.
00:47:05.659 -->
00:47:10.771So if anyone ever asks, I've always at least expressed that from myself.
00:47:10.771 -->
00:47:28.068Now I know I've had others on the show who have talked about sasquatch being something else, not from here, a trans dimensional things of that nature, and I tom, I know we've gone over this multiple times, at multiple times my legs hurt and you're pulling it.
00:47:28.208 -->
00:47:45.340I, I, I know I know to me, tom, there's enough room on on the spectrum, um, for these types of things, my thoughts with you, tom, I in in how I look at the these types of things, my thoughts with you, tom, and and how I look at the these types of situations.
00:47:45.340 -->
00:47:59.246There's room for everybody, right, it's how everyone navigates and respects each other's lane, and I think that's where you were coming from in that place that you know, hey, you're like, okay, cool, that's your thing, that's not my thing.
00:47:59.246 -->
00:48:10.503This is what we're, you know we're doing over here, but for that team or that other group, then to you know, vice versa, bad mouth or sabotage, maybe something that you're doing that not okay.
00:48:10.503 -->
00:48:23.012And I know it's such a small, small, small knit community, tom, we've been having a lot of people ask us in general to do another, like what we did, the bigfoot round table at lost woods brewery.
00:48:23.434 -->
00:48:37.900You know a lot of thank you to lost woods for for hosting us, but the work that goes into these types of events is so grandiose that it takes a lot, I mean, and even for yourself, to go out to do what you're about to do.
00:48:37.900 -->
00:48:39.545It costs money.
00:48:39.545 -->
00:48:43.514It takes, it takes, it takes personnel.
00:48:43.514 -->
00:48:45.759It takes a lot of time, sweat.
00:48:45.759 -->
00:48:45.980I mean.
00:48:45.980 -->
00:48:49.427For you to put that type of thing together, tom, that takes a lot of work.
00:48:49.427 -->
00:49:05.514You got to plan it, you got to look for, you know the, you know make sure you get the permits, and so then you do all this research, you get everything dialed in to procure a great experience for the people that are coming out to to do this hike or this experience with you.
00:49:05.514 -->
00:49:08.465Um, so it was super awesome.
00:49:08.465 -->
00:49:10.471I can't wait to you know, share this with others.
00:49:10.471 -->
00:49:18.583And, tom, I know that we've we've been holding back for a while, and it's been already two years since we've done that, that round table.
00:49:18.583 -->
00:49:20.527Can you believe that that was two years ago?
00:49:20.547 -->
00:49:23.413well, one of the things you know.
00:49:23.413 -->
00:49:42.690Like forks, I manage sasquatch legendcom, you know, the largest sasquatch store and museum in north america, and we've, for the last three years in a row, we had the fork sasquatch festival and, uh, the owner of the company, he decided for we're not going to have it.
00:49:42.690 -->
00:49:45.405And it's exactly what you said.
00:49:45.405 -->
00:49:51.210It's you know, it's uh, it's the cost you know, and we're way out here in Forks.
00:49:51.210 -->
00:49:59.920So what I've done is I've said, okay, we're not going to do the conferences here, I'm going to concentrate more on maybe trying to do once a month expeditions for people.
00:50:00.481 -->
00:50:02.887So the same amount of money it would cost you to go to.
00:50:03.086 -->
00:50:06.012Like Kelso Longview last weekend had their conference.
00:50:06.012 -->
00:50:09.871You know some people probably traveled a state or two over to come to it.
00:50:09.871 -->
00:50:26.887So the amount of money it costs to go to a conference you can come to Forks and do an expedition of a lifetime and you know one of the things you mentioned earlier about you know getting along, everyone getting along I forgot to mention it is when you said are you guys investigating in the state parks?
00:50:26.887 -->
00:50:30.101No, respect, don't step on people's toes.
00:50:30.101 -->
00:50:33.072We know the rules and regulations pertaining to parks.
00:50:33.072 -->
00:50:45.371If you're going to go in there and film something or for commercial use, or go investigating sasquatch, you know you're gonna have to have permits and go, ask commission and adhere to the regulations.
00:50:46.342 -->
00:50:47.568You know, we'll go into the parks.
00:50:47.568 -->
00:50:52.467Sure, I'll have my P1000 Nikon hanging off my neck, but so does everyone else that's out there.
00:50:52.467 -->
00:50:54.929You know we're not breaking any rules or laws there.
00:50:55.659 -->
00:51:01.708But as far as you know putting out trail cameras and audio recorders, and that we try to stay out of the parks.
00:51:01.708 -->
00:51:13.048And that's why Peggy went and got that OnX Hunt app, because we now know we can drive down the 101 west part of the highway and we're in the Olympic National Park.
00:51:13.048 -->
00:51:25.023But if we turn up that gravel road at Tlaloc Campground in the park and go up that gravel road across the street from that campground within a quarter mile, half a mile, we're out of the park.
00:51:25.023 -->
00:51:27.809We're now in state land yeah so respect.
00:51:28.010 -->
00:51:34.971And then that's you know, one of the things that sasquatch teaches us hairless, bipedal, dumbest critter on the planet.
00:51:34.971 -->
00:51:38.882They teach us that we always got to respect one another.
00:51:38.882 -->
00:51:41.467Sasquatches they.
00:51:41.467 -->
00:52:04.213We have no oral or written or pictograph paintings on rock walls depicting Sasquatches fighting one another, but we do have oral history, written history and a pictograph of humans attacking Sasquatches and we know the reports of humans attacking Sasquatches.
00:52:04.213 -->
00:52:13.530We can just go to the apps or the channels on our TV and watch a show from one of the states where they go out and hunt the mountain monster.
00:52:14.139 -->
00:52:18.168You know respect, never disrespect a Sasquatch.
00:52:18.168 -->
00:52:21.329Don't ever tree knock because that's a Sasquatch.
00:52:21.329 -->
00:52:25.400People and the humans stop, stop, turn around, go back where you came from.
00:52:25.400 -->
00:52:29.771Or another animal, a black bear here's a tree knock because I tested it.
00:52:29.771 -->
00:52:31.141Oh, look, there's a black bear.
00:52:31.141 -->
00:52:37.336So I grabbed the stick, turned and bolted, so the black bear.
00:52:37.336 -->
00:52:40.646Three times I've done that and three times I've seen a bolting black bear.
00:52:40.646 -->
00:52:46.789They know that's the sound of the Sasquatch telling the black bear stop, turn around, go back where you came from.
00:52:46.789 -->
00:52:50.264I'm here, or I'm here with my family, so never tree knock.
00:52:50.264 -->
00:52:54.882You're just telling the Sasquatch in their home to stop, turn around and go back where you came from.
00:52:54.882 -->
00:52:58.268What are you talking about, you disrespectful, hairless bipedal?
00:52:58.268 -->
00:52:58.949I live here.
00:52:58.949 -->
00:53:01.195Yeah, you're here visiting here visiting.
00:53:01.335 -->
00:53:13.186And the other one is don't ever think of hunting or killing a Sasquatch, and that's advocated by over 660 Indian tribes throughout Sasquatch Island, aka North America.
00:53:13.842 -->
00:53:29.813They all have beliefs, names for their Sasquatch understanding and perspectives, but the greatest understanding they have to pass on to everyone in North America and the world is never, ever disrespect a Sasquatch or think of harming them or killing them.
00:53:29.813 -->
00:53:47.844And that's something we have to, as the hairless, bipedal, dumbest animal on this planet, need to adhere, to, need to step up and understand that code, that bush code that we must, as look at the Indians that have been doing it since the dawn of our creation for hundreds of thousands of years.
00:53:47.844 -->
00:53:53.248You know we've lived in harmony and balance for the most case with Sasquatches.
00:53:53.248 -->
00:54:06.784Sure, there's a few, like Muchalat Harry, who got taken by a Sasquatch, and there's a few others of female Sasquatches being kidnapped by male Sasquatches and one coming back pregnant I know of, and the list goes on.
00:54:06.784 -->
00:54:16.574But when you compare it to the good encounters between Sasquatch and humans, to the bad encounters of Sasquatch to humans, the good far outweighs the bad.
00:54:16.574 -->
00:54:17.815Respect.
00:54:18.380 -->
00:54:22.230So Washington State does have a law stating that you cannot right.
00:54:22.451 -->
00:54:22.952No, yeah.
00:54:25.684 -->
00:54:26.646And Oregon as well.
00:54:26.646 -->
00:54:29.275So for those who yeah, stating that you cannot right no, yeah, and Oregon as well.
00:54:29.275 -->
00:54:37.364So for those who, yeah, so that's not a thing here, you can't hunt for Sasquatch if you're from Washington State, oregon, I just can't imagine that someone would want to actually kill a Sasquatch.
00:54:37.364 -->
00:54:51.940I mean I should take that back because it would be like, oh hey, I got the first one, you know that back, but because it'd be like, oh hey, I, I got the first one, you know, um, but really no, you didn't, because you know there there are stories that have been shared, tom, and I know that you've shared some of these stories.
00:54:53.681 -->
00:55:10.961The piece that most that doesn't get talked about is your connection with indigenous tribes who have shared with you the knowledge that is so incredibly powerful and out of respect I mean with you.
00:55:10.961 -->
00:55:20.934Sharing some of those stories with us in the past has been the knowledge that you have, tom, that you have been able to share with us, with others around.
00:55:20.934 -->
00:55:22.876Is is invaluable.
00:55:22.876 -->
00:55:27.583Able to share with us, with others around is is invaluable.
00:55:27.583 -->
00:55:29.206You have the most, and I'm not trying to blow smoke up anybody's.
00:55:29.206 -->
00:55:32.481You know tailpipe or anything, but where am I going to get straight information from you.
00:55:32.501 -->
00:55:42.907Know, it's like I talk to others and it's all speculation, tom, and I get that, depending on which avenue you go with squatch and what you're looking for.
00:55:42.907 -->
00:55:49.264And you know if you're, as I can say this, because Tom will say the woo-woo, you know where they're like.
00:55:49.264 -->
00:55:56.452They believe it may not be from this planet and they talk about this trans-dimensional Sasquatch and that's cool.
00:55:56.452 -->
00:56:09.764But then it comes with a lot of other folklore stories that may be twisted, a lot of other folklore stories that may be twisted.
00:56:09.764 -->
00:56:10.505That, um, that it's hard to believe.
00:56:10.505 -->
00:56:20.322So, tom, what can you share that you've learned from the indigenous tribes, from locally and maybe nationally, that you might be able to give to, to share with the audience, that we haven't talked about in a while?
00:56:21.806 -->
00:56:26.547well what I just finished talking about respect, never harming them or thinking of killing them.
00:56:26.547 -->
00:56:28.552Number one, yeah.
00:56:28.552 -->
00:56:58.563The other thing is that the whole respect level I remember being different in Omaha Indian Reserve and up in the Northwest Territories of Canada, isolated Indian communities in British Columbia that you can only access by boat or float plane, and I was there with a commercial fish boat or when I used to have my tour boat and they would tell you about how they would feed the Sasquatch fried bread, bannock fish meat.
00:56:58.563 -->
00:57:02.260You know ducks if they harvest them, they knew they would leave.
00:57:02.260 -->
00:57:03.864You know ducks if they harvest them, they knew they would leave.
00:57:04.204 -->
00:57:07.913You know fish low in the smokehouse.
00:57:07.913 -->
00:57:18.831Knowing the Sasquatches didn't really don't really like heavy smoked salmon, like a lot of us native tribes do, they'll leave the fillets low by the door.
00:57:18.831 -->
00:57:35.891So when a Sasquatch opens the door, if he reaches up high he's going to get the heavy smoke fish and but if he looks in the door and there's fish hanging low out of the heavy smoke, that's in the morning when they go to the smoke house oh, books was here last night.
00:57:35.891 -->
00:57:39.144The three fish I left hanging there filleted are gone.
00:57:39.585 -->
00:57:39.786Yeah.
00:57:40.047 -->
00:57:51.215And all of a sudden the next day they go out to the smokehouse and there's a feather or a shiny rock or maybe part of a deer leg, a deer leg.
00:57:51.215 -->
00:58:02.831So there's always been that interaction and it's, you know, something you know like within the sasquatch community, the majority of people get along, you know, like going to a conference.
00:58:02.831 -->
00:58:14.713It's, you know it's like a bunch of chattering, whooping sasquatches hey, how you doing good to see you, handshake, let's have a beer, let's go have a hot dog together, because you haven't seen each other for quite some time.
00:58:14.713 -->
00:58:17.083And uh, you know.
00:58:17.083 -->
00:58:28.570But when you get into the business side of it, the business side of it, the capitalism side of Sasquatchology, the industry, you know I've been attacked by a few big names that are out there.
00:58:28.570 -->
00:58:31.784You know, and you know people that follow me in Sasquatch Island.
00:58:31.784 -->
00:58:40.608They can put two and two together and know who I would like to meet outside of a conference, in the back door, out by the dumpster, so we can have a little dance together.
00:58:40.608 -->
00:58:43.134You know, there's a couple, three of them out there.
00:58:43.134 -->
00:59:02.811But you know, I do know there's a few others that are out there that like to cast stones from their ivory towers, glass houses and shove daggers in my back, be it by text or orally, but you know they're not mad enough to come do like a Sasquatch and look me in the eyeballs and maybe find a dumpster that we can discuss things with.
00:59:02.811 -->
00:59:13.431So to me I got no use for the keyboard warrior, the lip flapping little B, I, t, c, h, and you know people go.
00:59:13.893 -->
00:59:25.512You know like my boss commented on a post I did on Sasquatch Island, uh, two days ago, um, you know, basically pointing out who's an ass and keyboard warriors and so forth.
00:59:25.512 -->
00:59:35.211And you know I said look, you know you got to have policemen in the world and some people got to call a spade a spade and say what they mean and mean what they say.
00:59:35.211 -->
00:59:40.391And from time to time sometimes you got to go duke it out.
00:59:40.391 -->
00:59:50.110What part of I'm an Indian for 59 years almost 60, who was born and raised on Indian reserves and been on them all my life throughout the year?
00:59:50.110 -->
00:59:54.692What part of being a commercial fisherman for 46 years, don't you understand?
00:59:54.692 -->
01:00:05.360I used to chase grizzly bears for a living for over 20 years and now I chase Sasquatches with cameras and electronic equipment to get that hopefully good evidence.
01:00:05.360 -->
01:00:09.068And you know part of it.
01:00:09.068 -->
01:00:12.681Don't you understand that I say what I mean and mean what I say.
01:00:13.061 -->
01:00:18.420And every now and then you gotta have someone like me to come into a conference, like I did one time.
01:00:18.420 -->
01:00:23.992And everyone ran up to me and go, hey, that guy you're duking it out with on keyboard there a couple months ago.
01:00:23.992 -->
01:00:39.164There he is over there and I just looked at him, he looked at me and I just went like a big old bull, sasquatch, pushing my way right at him and oh, he turned, put his tail between his fat butt cheeks and ran out the door.
01:00:39.164 -->
01:00:43.269We'd never seen him at that conference yet he paid $40 for that lanyard he ran away with.
01:00:43.269 -->
01:00:47.230Never did get to participate in the conference, so it's respect.
01:00:47.670 -->
01:00:47.891Yeah.
01:00:48.199 -->
01:00:53.900And I was going to go teach that man a little bit of understanding about respect Orally.
01:00:53.900 -->
01:01:02.447But if he slapped me or did something like that, then I would have went into full defense mode, sure, but I knew he wasn't going to do that.
01:01:02.447 -->
01:01:05.945I just made him do chihuahua, stick his tail between his legs and run.
01:01:05.945 -->
01:01:09.052And that's what sasquatch teaches us.
01:01:09.052 -->
01:01:20.333When you look at the omaha indian tribe, we're investigating with lucas white down there, who's a tribe member, and he's sent me pictures of crib, a crib toy, three miles out in the bush.
01:01:20.333 -->
01:01:27.809Bicycle with one training wheel missing three quarters of a mile off miles out in the bush, a bicycle with one training wheel missing three-quarters of a mile off the road in the bush.
01:01:27.809 -->
01:01:32.871A little baby's toy that's found way out there.
01:01:32.871 -->
01:01:36.849Other people find cars and kids' toys way out in the bush.
01:01:36.849 -->
01:01:37.512What is that?
01:01:37.512 -->
01:01:48.949Some little Sasquatch going with his mama into the urban edge to go for the compost or the fruit and veg in the backyard while the humans are sleeping, all of a sudden bends down and goes look at this.
01:01:48.949 -->
01:01:52.509Squeak, squeak, ring, ring, twist, twist.
01:01:52.509 -->
01:01:53.570Oh, that's nice.
01:01:53.570 -->
01:01:57.108And whatever that toy is, they bring it into the bush.
01:01:57.108 -->
01:02:00.807But then, all of a sudden, another Sasquatch from the clan comes around.
01:02:00.807 -->
01:02:03.052The hell are you doing?
01:02:03.052 -->
01:02:04.635Drop that right now.
01:02:05.157 -->
01:02:07.159We have laws, very strict laws.
01:02:07.159 -->
01:02:18.797We don't take or use anything from the hairless bipedals Because, as the Omaha and other tribes have taught me and my tribe as well, they have laws, very strict laws.
01:02:18.797 -->
01:02:24.476They have language, they have song, they have laws, very strict laws.
01:02:24.476 -->
01:02:33.114They're simply humans of the night, a perfect human, because they don't use fire, they don't use weapons, they don't use tools.
01:02:33.114 -->
01:02:37.780For the most part they don't have permanent structures and they don't have clothing.
01:02:37.780 -->
01:02:49.157So to me, I know Sasquatches are the perfect bipedal creature that we can only wish we could be like that, are the perfect bipedal creature that we can only wish we could be like that.
01:02:49.157 -->
01:02:58.757We talk of love and empathy and compassion and religion and how God says we need to be like that, but come on, blow it out your back end.
01:02:58.757 -->
01:03:04.380We ain't anywhere close to that harmony and balance as a species, for sure.
01:03:05.021 -->
01:03:13.719Tom Sasquatch, is these conferences that you were just talking about, that it seemed to be.
01:03:13.719 -->
01:03:18.065Should we say far and few between now or that the conferences?
01:03:18.065 -->
01:03:31.596I think you and I have had this discussion, uh, over the phone multiple times, but are we seeing a trend here where conferences are starting to go away, like because they're not bringing in what they used to?
01:03:33.641 -->
01:03:36.668well, I wouldn't say going away.
01:03:36.668 -->
01:03:47.463There's actually last year, 2024, because I keep track of it, I save everyone's posters, yeah and uh, and so we definitely had an increase over 2022.
01:03:47.463 -->
01:03:52.0502023 and 2025 looks to be big, if not bigger again.
01:03:52.050 -->
01:04:06.583But the mistake they're making at the conferences it's greed, profit, fill it to capacity, sell out, get, get the vendors sold out four to six months before the event even starts.
01:04:06.583 -->
01:04:08.516It's all about the big old buck.
01:04:08.516 -->
01:04:22.998So it's always the same and they're good friends of mine Jeff Meldrum, cliff Berrickman, you know, adam Davies Actually I won't mention his name, I got no use for that, yeah, but he's always at the conferences.
01:04:22.998 -->
01:04:27.181But anyway, it's always the same people, the same lineup.
01:04:27.181 -->
01:04:29.487And then there's the ones that they know.
01:04:29.487 -->
01:04:33.701Okay, we budgeted to get the big guys in the drawers to sell the tickets.
01:04:33.701 -->
01:04:39.836Okay, now we'll bring in the local guys that are just really bumbling and stumbling speculators.
01:04:39.949 -->
01:04:41.454I look at them and do research on.
01:04:41.494 -->
01:04:57.182You know, like I tell people, do research on the researcher before you do investigating of the Sasquatch or what they sighted or seen, and you find a lot of these people I don't know them from a hole in the ground, but they're more regionally specific.
01:04:57.409 -->
01:05:01.360So if you're going to go to a conference in Tennessee, it's going to be people from around there.
01:05:01.360 -->
01:05:08.623You're going to go to a conference in New York State or Minnesota, it's going to be people from around there and a couple mainliners that go in headliners.
01:05:08.623 -->
01:05:30.936But if you want to go to a conference or put a conference together, you're really going to get from the woo-woo spiritual spectrum right to the critterist, hardline right-wing Sasquatcher like me who doesn't go into the other side of the spectrum because I've never experienced it in numerous encounters with Sasquatch like me, who doesn't go into the other side of the spectrum because I've never experienced it in numerous encounters with Sasquatch.
01:05:30.936 -->
01:05:40.351Then you need to put a conference together or go to one that has a big North American Indian lineup, and that's what I want to see.
01:05:40.351 -->
01:05:53.719I want to see the Pacific Northwest tribes, for starters Washington State, have a conference where you have Shelley Covington-Montana for a DNA talk and investigating.
01:05:54.349 -->
01:06:03.297Mel Skahan for his Yakima perspectives and beliefs and understanding of the spiritual aspects of Sasquatch and his territories and his encounters.
01:06:03.297 -->
01:06:13.177Tom Seawood, who comes there with his Kwakwaka'wakw and decades of bush experience with Sasquatch encounters and his beliefs and everything.
01:06:13.177 -->
01:06:18.634And then maybe Brenda, who was on one of the first expedition, our Finding Bigfoot shows.
01:06:18.634 -->
01:06:29.521And then there's the Indian guy up in Alaska, and then there's Lucas White from Omaha Indian Reserve, who actually lived with the Sasquatches when he ran away from foster care when he was a young kid.
01:06:29.521 -->
01:06:31.375And the list goes on.
01:06:31.536 -->
01:06:32.438What about Robert Alley?
01:06:33.329 -->
01:06:43.844And then bring in your Jeff Meldrum to talk about the science part of Sasquatch and bring in Cliff to bring in his perspectives because he's so well connected, cliff Berkman.
01:06:43.945 -->
01:06:44.126Yeah.
01:06:44.170 -->
01:06:50.719You know I love listening to him when he's up on stage well, sounds like we have a conference here, tom, we just got to make it happen, right?
01:06:50.719 -->
01:07:07.498I think that's really yeah, and that's something that I've I've always told you and I know that you know for those who may be listening, or you know driving, or maybe you're even a local business look, this is this is my ideal dream to make the conference round table.
01:07:07.498 -->
01:07:16.840However, we want to discover every time I want to do one of these, I want it to be so that people walk in for free.
01:07:16.840 -->
01:07:19.523It's not being done, but I say that.
01:07:19.523 -->
01:07:35.800And how you make that work is basically, you have heavy sponsorship that are going to be able to pay the talent and have these booths so that people can come to the conference for free.
01:07:35.800 -->
01:07:45.103But that makes it so selective that we say, okay, we have a venue that maybe holds 75 to 100, maybe 150 people, that's it, we sell them out.
01:07:45.103 -->
01:07:51.253It's a VIP situation to 100, maybe 150 people, that's it.
01:07:51.253 -->
01:07:51.635We sell them out.
01:07:51.635 -->
01:07:56.923It's a vip situation and it becomes a coveted ticket so that people are who are truly there to have an experience, get that true experience.
01:07:56.923 -->
01:07:57.409That's just.
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01:08:06.099That is something that I've always wanted to do, and I know we did the round table in uh at the brewery sold it out was was free.
01:08:06.099 -->
01:08:07.181No one got paid.
01:08:07.181 -->
01:08:14.416I think they paid in yeast and barley that night and we thank them for that.
01:08:14.416 -->
01:08:16.337It was a fun time.
01:08:16.337 -->
01:08:17.350But I can't.
01:08:17.350 -->
01:08:23.400It needs to be a bigger venue and more time and thought will be placed into something like that.
01:08:23.400 -->
01:08:29.350So maybe your local business send me a text text 775-990-5151.
01:08:29.350 -->
01:08:29.930Let us know.
01:08:29.930 -->
01:08:30.192Send.
01:08:30.192 -->
01:08:31.335Send us an email.
01:08:31.335 -->
01:08:32.557We'd love to get in contact.
01:08:32.557 -->
01:08:34.831You will you know and we'll put you in the right path.
01:08:34.831 -->
01:08:42.539Again before we wrap things up, tom, if they want to come and find you and they want to do an expedition with you, they should.
01:08:42.579 -->
01:08:50.560They need to go to your website right to go and send you an email it's s SasquatchIslandcom, but when you get to the home page, scroll down to the bottom of the home page.
01:08:50.560 -->
01:09:08.855That's where the Vancouver Island and Canadian and when Peggy gets time next week she'll be putting up the Olympic Peninsula Interactive Sasquatch map that I've been working with Kerry Kilmurry-Claussen, a good friend of mine and fellow Sasasquatch island uh member up on vancouver island, and it's an amazing map.
01:09:08.855 -->
01:09:09.840You got to check it out.
01:09:09.840 -->
01:09:10.542I think.
01:09:10.582 -->
01:09:21.435I think I might go to the conference expedition page I think I might have used that map, uh, when I was uh talking with someone about those, uh, with those missing hikers recently.
01:09:21.435 -->
01:09:26.698Uh, they were showing like little little big foots all over the map on where sightings have been.
01:09:26.698 -->
01:09:36.318Yeah, tom, it's always fun to have you come on, and so the stuff that you were promoting recently I know there was a shot now.
01:09:36.318 -->
01:09:40.216Is that out, that stuff, or is that going to come out soon?
01:09:40.216 -->
01:09:41.775What was it that I saw?
01:09:41.775 -->
01:09:42.935Was it a flyer?
01:09:43.550 -->
01:09:48.801I think he's editing away, as you know know most of the days here in fork.
01:09:48.801 -->
01:09:56.885She's retired and and she took it upon herself and she's getting a few things right now.
01:09:56.885 -->
01:09:57.988Our plan is to.
01:09:57.988 -->
01:09:59.511You know we'd like to.
01:09:59.511 -->
01:10:09.954We're gonna eventually do an hour and a half movie that'll be on one of the streaming networks, but for the time being, we want to like your free conference idea.
01:10:09.954 -->
01:10:13.141We want to start doing youtube shorts right now.
01:10:13.141 -->
01:10:17.762You can go to tiktok, sasquatch island right and face, and I did actually.
01:10:17.842 -->
01:10:34.264I posted today uh, three and a half minute short on sasquatch island facebook group, where I got biggie the big Sasquatch behind me at the store and I talk about what took place today in regards to activity of Sasquatch on the Olympic Peninsula.
01:10:34.264 -->
01:10:35.288So, like I say, you know it's just follow me.
01:10:35.288 -->
01:10:41.775There's a lot of free stuff out there and my YouTube channel might take you three, four hours to watch everything.
01:10:41.775 -->
01:10:43.750And Facebook.
01:10:44.070 -->
01:10:47.822You go join the group and scroll right back to the beginning, 2015.
01:10:47.822 -->
01:11:04.090You probably got about a month's worth of entertainment, education, laughter and knowledge to be gained, because a lot of people can come to the store and buy my book or go to SasquatchLegendcom and buy my book for $19.99.
01:11:04.090 -->
01:11:09.752But you can also go to Facebook and see the free encyclopedia of Sasquatchology.
01:11:09.752 -->
01:11:16.011According to Seaweed me and you know it doesn't cost you a dime, but you're you know, trust me.
01:11:16.011 -->
01:11:23.354You read all my Facebook posts, watch all my YouTube videos, you will be able to have a close encounter.
01:11:23.354 -->
01:11:29.274Very kind, I'll definitely guarantee you increase your odds of that tom, I know how I came across.
01:11:29.314 -->
01:11:30.797You was from the, from the.
01:11:30.797 -->
01:11:31.300Uh, the.
01:11:31.300 -->
01:11:32.502Was it a documentary?
01:11:32.502 -->
01:11:33.470Was it a series?
01:11:33.470 -->
01:11:37.418The bigfoot, uh girl, do you ever talk to those?
01:11:37.439 -->
01:11:38.100bigfoot girl.
01:11:38.100 -->
01:11:39.422The movie yeah, I started.
01:11:39.422 -->
01:11:42.595Yeah, the movie sucks, but my part is really good.
01:11:42.595 -->
01:11:44.278It's on net Netflix.
01:11:44.479 -->
01:11:45.140Bigfoot girl.
01:11:45.140 -->
01:11:47.984Hey, that's how I found you.
01:11:47.984 -->
01:11:55.440I was like I was watching it and watching it and then you came on and I was like who's that guy?
01:11:55.440 -->
01:11:57.617That guy is amazing.
01:11:57.617 -->
01:12:00.838So when you see talent, you know what I mean.
01:12:00.838 -->
01:12:04.529And I was like son of a, these guys have a podcast.
01:12:04.529 -->
01:12:13.381And I was like you know, know, this is someone who is starting his thing at the, at the beginning, and, um, you know, it's 2020 when I, when I come across it.
01:12:13.381 -->
01:12:25.060But, man, tom, uh, if it, have you talked to those, to that individual, to that group and that gal or no, actually I never did meet the girl who stars in the movie.
01:12:25.462 -->
01:12:26.844It was all magic of editing.
01:12:26.844 -->
01:12:32.493But you know I heard from them in the beginning when the movie was released and a few things.
01:12:32.493 -->
01:12:34.699But you know who knows where they are now.
01:12:34.699 -->
01:12:37.155But you know, for everyone listening, don't forget.
01:12:37.155 -->
01:12:58.369You know, last week, season six, expedition Bigfoot, episode one, I was in it and you know, I tell you, my tongue was bleeding, I was biting it for so many months not allowed due to confidentiality, and then the producer phoned me and said, tom, yeah, it's airing on the 22nd of January.
01:12:58.369 -->
01:13:01.880You can post all you want now about you being on the series.
01:13:01.880 -->
01:13:04.283So I posted about me on Expedition Bigfoot, the series.
01:13:04.283 -->
01:13:06.565So I posted about me on Expedition Bigfoot.
01:13:06.565 -->
01:13:16.238It's between commercials, but I shared information about the Rogue on it and a few other things, it's entertainment.
01:13:18.434 -->
01:13:24.636I've known Russell since he invited me to his International Bigfoot Conference in Yakima five, six years ago.
01:13:24.636 -->
01:13:30.842Peggy and I met Maria when we were at the hotel in July.
01:13:30.842 -->
01:13:35.113Man, that's an intelligent woman, man.
01:13:35.113 -->
01:13:37.060She makes a big part of the show.
01:13:37.060 -->
01:13:42.275Then I was out at night with Bryce and then Biko, who you're going to see on there.
01:13:42.275 -->
01:13:49.211We got to become good friends between Bico with peggy and I, and that's russell.
01:13:49.211 -->
01:13:50.654I consider him a friend as well.
01:13:50.654 -->
01:13:51.798You know they got a good series.
01:13:51.798 -->
01:13:52.701All the power to them.
01:13:52.701 -->
01:13:57.381I wish them luck and hopefully and uh, hopefully I'll get on another episode with them.
01:13:57.381 -->
01:13:57.881Who knows?
01:13:59.092 -->
01:14:00.456I mean, how cool is that?
01:14:00.456 -->
01:14:01.958I mean we'll have to go back and watch.
01:14:01.958 -->
01:14:05.515If you haven't had a chance or an opportunity to go see it, go see it.
01:14:05.515 -->
01:14:09.154Um, you know, go support our boy dom over here doing his thing.
01:14:09.154 -->
01:14:11.479Uh, where in the hell did it go?
01:14:11.479 -->
01:14:12.761I was just looking for it.
01:14:12.761 -->
01:14:13.871Uh, here it is.
01:14:13.871 -->
01:14:18.020So if you know, if, if you know you got some time, go go check it out.
01:14:18.020 -->
01:14:22.295Right, tom, you're in there yep, and just be patient.
01:14:22.536 -->
01:14:23.417Peggy behind me.
01:14:23.417 -->
01:14:25.119There you can see her in the screen.
01:14:25.119 -->
01:14:40.921She's working hard and she'll have something edited for everyone to see, probably in a couple months, and then from there, once she gets good practice with all the software and everything, you're going to see some amazing stuff from Peggy.
01:14:41.310 -->
01:14:51.779Well, I mean, the two of you are quite a delight and I appreciate everything you do for us and you know to be able to share your time with us on the radio and the podcast and whatnot.
01:14:51.779 -->
01:14:52.702It's always been, it's always.
01:14:52.702 -->
01:14:58.903It's always fun and I know eventually we will have something tangible in the near future.
01:14:58.903 -->
01:15:04.682If it's some type of conference, if it's a one day roundtable thing, we are going to make something happen.
01:15:04.682 -->
01:15:07.278But it's got to be the envision.
01:15:07.278 -->
01:15:08.536It has to be for free.
01:15:08.536 -->
01:15:12.780So if you're a company that says, oh my God, I want to host this thing, call us.
01:15:12.780 -->
01:15:16.579If you're like I want to be a sponsor of this thing, call us.
01:15:16.579 -->
01:15:21.641Maybe you want to donate to the cause, send us a text.
01:15:21.641 -->
01:15:27.320Maybe you're like, hey, I know this kid who is super into Sasquatch.
01:15:27.320 -->
01:15:29.412He wants to be a part of something like this.
01:15:30.512 -->
01:15:40.338Tom, that day, as we wrap things up that round table, people were thanking us so much and I'm not trying to like just, you know, pat ourselves on the back.
01:15:40.338 -->
01:15:46.538But people were like, thank you for doing something like this to be able to have this route, like to be open and to.
01:15:46.538 -->
01:15:50.978I mean people were sharing their experiences with us Like it was nothing else.
01:15:50.978 -->
01:15:52.751What was so cool?
01:15:52.751 -->
01:16:14.487As these stories were real, these were people's encounters, and it was making the hair on my neck stand out because, like man, this, this is a big dude who was a ranger out hunting and he's he's like I know what I saw and he's like I was scared to death when I had my encounter with Sasquatch.
01:16:17.710 -->
01:16:18.451So we want to do something like that.
01:16:18.451 -->
01:16:20.092But don't forget, you know listeners that are out there.
01:16:20.092 -->
01:16:24.417You know people you know all through the country and the world.
01:16:24.417 -->
01:16:28.182You know there's nothing stopping them from getting ahold of you or me.
01:16:28.182 -->
01:16:32.737And you know passing the hat around, the oldest industry in the world is church.
01:16:32.737 -->
01:16:38.001You know they put that round wooden plate or metal plate and pass it around.
01:16:38.121 -->
01:16:41.439They sure did $20,000 in a blink of an eye.
01:16:41.439 -->
01:17:05.145So what I'm getting at is, you know, there's nothing stopping someone from another state or region of Washington to get a hold of us and have the three of us Peggy, you and myself come there to their local tavern and I'm sure we can find someone who's, you know, well-versed with Sasquatch and in Sasquatchology, from that region or state as well to participate.
01:17:05.145 -->
01:17:10.738And now they have their roundtable with you and you're doing a live radio show, like we did.
01:17:11.260 -->
01:17:14.234That's right People stop and get.
01:17:14.395 -->
01:17:16.981Oh God, I wish we could do that in our state.
01:17:16.981 -->
01:17:19.024They're all the way over in Washington.
01:17:19.166 -->
01:17:19.590We can travel.
01:17:19.670 -->
01:17:21.793There's a thing called an airplane got wings on it.
01:17:22.454 -->
01:17:23.076Buy the tickets.
01:17:23.115 -->
01:17:23.657We'll be there.
01:17:23.756 -->
01:17:24.278We'll be there.
01:17:24.278 -->
01:17:28.185It's always fun to have you come on.
01:17:28.185 -->
01:17:33.416Our guest Tom Seawood from Sasquatch Island, always a pleasure.
01:17:33.416 -->
01:17:37.644From the Pacific Northwest as we wrap things up here, tom, thank you so much.
01:17:37.644 -->
01:17:40.551Peggy.
01:17:40.551 -->
01:17:43.109Thanks for letting Tom hang out with us this evening and spend some time on the show.
01:17:43.109 -->
01:17:45.519Tom, I know I will be talking to you soon.
01:17:45.569 -->
01:17:46.916We are going to make something happen again.
01:17:46.916 -->
01:17:59.297If you want to be a part of something like this, something that is unique, you want to be, if you're a Sasquatch enthusiast, maybe you're out there doing something, or you want to be a part of something like this, this is an opportunity for you to link up with us.
01:17:59.297 -->
01:18:03.403Send us a text 775-990-5151.
01:18:03.403 -->
01:18:08.398If you don't have a chance, go to my website onairmariocom.
01:18:08.398 -->
01:18:09.885All the information will be available.
01:18:09.885 -->
01:18:11.975Tom's email to text us.
01:18:11.975 -->
01:18:13.577All that information will be available.
01:18:13.577 -->
01:18:30.050So, from the Pacific Northwest as we wrap things up, I'd like to thank our guest, tom Seawood for hanging out with us from Sasquatch Island For my entire team Mark Christopher, sophia Magana, mark Christopher, sofia Magana and myself, mario Magana.
01:18:30.050 -->
01:18:32.409Be sure to look up at the sky because you never know what you might see.
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01:18:33.615Good night.
