Supernatural, S05E11- Sam, Interrupted

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This is an unspoiled network podcast. This is unspoiled, covering Supernatural.
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Season 5, Episode 11, Sam Interrupted. In this episode, I
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was led to believe that it was going to be
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Sam that was interrupted. But both of the boys are interrupted.
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Caught me off guard. Then they're, boy, are they, they are,
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I've never seen so much rupting. It's something.
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Rupting.
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Welcome to Unspoiled. Don't you cry no more. Welcome to
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the show, everyone. I am Natasha.
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I'm Rashawn.
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All right. So this one was alive, even though it's
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not necessarily like a fan favorite because we just, I
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just said it was going to be alive without really
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like thinking about whether people cared about it or wanted
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that because it was just an automatic. So here we are.
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If you're wondering why did they choose this one? I
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don't know. We did. Just enjoy the treat.
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It's just a little fun treat. It's fine. It's fine.
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So this is full of surprises.
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So by the title, Sam Interrupted, did that give you
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a clue? Did it would be like a mental hospital situation?
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Yeah, definitely. I was not sure what the sitch was
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going to be.
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Big.
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You know, because I was like, is something going to
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happen where Sam actually has a breakdown? Because why not?
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Is it going to be something where people think he's
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having one, but that's not what's happening? So when it
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starts off with them just saying what exactly is happening,
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and it's only Sam and Dean's rolling his eyes, I really,
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of course, was just assuming this is the perfect setup
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to get Sam in here. And Dean will remain on
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the outside doing some kind of recon or, you know, like...
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So when Dean chimes in and he's like, he's just
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been like this. It's not your fault. The apocalypse was
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gonna happen anyway. Like, I was really like, oh, oh, okay.
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That's not... Okay. Well, that's... both of you in there
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huh okay well okay i just really had to reset
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my mental image of what was about to happen and
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honestly i don't want the boys split up so i
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prefer this but there was a sense for me of
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like there's a very real possibility that you aren't able
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to get out of there.
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As easily as you think. If you're both in there,
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then like you need, like if one is on the
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outside and you're like, okay, he's there to bust the
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other one out when it's time. But if they're both
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in there, it gets a little dicier.
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Yeah. Which I will say, I'm not mad at it,
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but we just skip right over them actually getting outside
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back to their car in a way that is inadequate.
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Yeah. They were just like, there's no time for that.
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They just got out. Trust me, bro.
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Yeah, that's about it. And like I said, it's fine.
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But I really was expecting there to be more pushback
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on that specifically. That they were going to try and
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just leave. And it would be more difficult than they
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were expecting. No. Which, you know... that's not really the
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thing that's interesting. So sure.
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Right. That's fine.
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Right.
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Right. We've seen them get out of enough situations and
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use their wiles to, you know, escape from it. Uh,
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so yeah, it's not like something we necessarily needed to see.
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We can fill in those blanks of how it went down.
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Some guys got roughed up, you know, some guys got
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their head smashed and, Their.
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Heads put through a fucking window.
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Right, exactly. More of that.
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Christ.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, so we start off with a lady who is
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being interviewed by a clinician.
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Yeah, she's having a.
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In the biz, we don't call it an interview. It's
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just more of a session. It's a session.
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Okay. I was going to call it an interrogation.
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She's having a session with like the head psychiatrist. Um,
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and he is his bedside manner. I don't like it. No,
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I didn't care for it. Yeah.
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Of course. Initially there's a flicker for me of like,
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is he, is he the one, but, I just didn't
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think so somehow. It's both a combo of it being
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like a little too obvious and there being like a
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sense of him really being frustrated, which certainly could have
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been him just play acting, you know, but I just
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kind of went, no, I don't think so. But that
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doesn't change the fact that he feels very intimidating. There's like,
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an energy that comes off him that I'm just like, yeah,
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this is a guy who takes life seriously.
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Yeah.
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And I just immediately was like, I don't want to
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fuck with this dude.
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I feel like in popular culture, whenever they have moments
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that are centered around people being in a mental hospital,
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there's always like a heavy, the doctor's always a heavy,
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they're very like no nonsense. They've seen it all. They don't,
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you know, they're so logical to the point that they
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don't give any credence to anybody's, you know, delusions because
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they can't because everybody is having delusions and they're just
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like hearing nonsense all the time. So they're really, really rigid.
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And I don't know if that's become a trope or not,
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but I feel like he just fits really well to
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the point where the heavy becomes the bad guy, even
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though they aren't necessarily even doing any engaging in any
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bad behavior, but they sort of become the bad guy.
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Like, they're just like the obstacle we have to overcome.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. So he is talking to her about, this was
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actually really funny because there's a post that goes around
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sometimes where people are talking about bad exposition in movies
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and television shows. And it'll be like a girl getting
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water and a guy walks in and she's like, good morning, brother.
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How is our mother, the alcoholic? And the brother being like, hello, sister.
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She's still drinking after dad left us a year ago.
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And it's just like the most awkward, you know? And
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in this scene, he's like, I understand that you're grieving.
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She was your roommate. What happened was difficult for all
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of us. And I was just like, okay, you know,
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there's no getting around that. We have to do this
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to a degree. So it's, it's fine. Um, But yeah,
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this woman clearly has seen something, but she's also seeing
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her son who died in a fire, which apparently is
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meant to be the impetus of her being committed. Like
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she lost her shit, which you would.
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Yeah, that'll do it.
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That'll do it.
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And then like, we don't know this at the time,
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but in, In hindsight, we know that the wraith makes people,
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you know, hallucinate.
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Mm-hmm.
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So there's a very good chance that she really is, like,
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you know, seeing the dead son is not necessarily a
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symptom of her already existing fragile mental health, but, you know,
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the effects of the toxin or whatever from the wraith. But, yeah,
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he's not just, like, there's no such thing as monsters, Susan. Mm-hmm.
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And you're just like, well, famous last words.
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Yeah. They build their own hell. I supply the Legos. Yeah,
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the Legos are her son tragically dying horribly.
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Yeah.
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And I appreciate that in this conversation, she's like, because
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he says you're schizophrenic. And she's like, I know. And
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I see my son. And I know he's not there,
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but that's not what this is though.
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Yeah.
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And I was like, okay, yeah, she's got the awareness
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and I trust her. Um, and I felt like that
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did seem to bring him up short a little bit,
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but he doesn't know what to say.
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What are you going to say?
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What are you going to say? Fair. So then we
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cut to the boys with their, uh, What looks like
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we're trying to commit Sam, but then winds up being
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both of them.
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Yeah. They're Axel and Eddie Van Halen in this episode,
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I believe.
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Are they?
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Alan and Eddie Van Halen, I think are the names
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they use.
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I love that those don't raise any eyebrows but Dr.
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Babar is definitely making him stop. Yeah.
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He's like, isn't that an elephant?
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I was just like, you know things can have two names.
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I'm sure there are people out there with the last
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name Bernstein. That doesn't mean that they're cartoon bears.
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Oh, that's one of those Mandela effect things. Bernstein versus Berenstein.
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It's Berenstain, which I just can't accept.
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I lost my train of thought that fast.
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Oh, I'm sorry. Mandela effect.
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Oh, no, that was after we were talking about the
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Bernstein Bears. But the, oh, the Babard joke. That's another
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Fletch joke, too.
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Oh, okay.
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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, so it works on the elephant
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level as a joke in and of itself, but it's
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another Fletch thing.
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It works on the elephant level. So, yeah, they both
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wind up being involuntarily admitted, committed. Is there another word?
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It's committed if it's involuntary and admitted, I think, if
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it's voluntary. Okay.
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I thought that there, okay. I could have sworn there
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was like a third word, but maybe I'm just making
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that up. And we cut then to the two of
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them in their comfy robes and they are hanging around
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in the day room. And it turns out they are
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here to meet a hunter who specifically got in touch
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with them because he knows some shit's going on that
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is not kosher. And wants them to check it out
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and is not up to the task himself.
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Yeah. In the cold open, after we watched Susan talk
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to the head psychiatrist, we then watch her be murdered. Oh,
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I really.
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Did just skip right over her murder.
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She's like in her room, huddled on the bed, not
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under a blanket, which you rightly pointed out. If you
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need protection, you should be under a blanket.
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Yeah.
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And the vent, The screws on the vent start to,
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you know, come undone. And there's another patient in the
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hall that can like hear her screaming and see her
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face like in terror. And then we don't see her killed.
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But then when the camera comes back to her, she's
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just on the floor with both her wrists slit.
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Yeah.
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And then it, you know, does the opening. So it's
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another apparent suicide, though we all know.
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Is it? and it's sort of a weird thing when
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you find out who it is that like the coming
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through the ceiling vent thing it may not be what's
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really happening like we know this lady is hallucinating because
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of what so exactly we're all sort of thinking that
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this is the mo of the monster but it very
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well may be part of the delusion that she's been
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infected with it might be the like monster just fucking
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with her because it enjoys the taste of people who
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are bonkers.
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Yeah.
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And, um, thus I accept the fact that this, like
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the nurse could just go in there, you know? Yeah.
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But also if the nurse just goes in there, then
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everybody knows the nurse just was the last person in
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the room with the lady who died. So that's pretty
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much giving the game away there.
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And they don't really, the episode doesn't really dig into
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that too much.
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No.
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It happens later, but when they're in group and the
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guy is insisting that he saw a monster and then
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the other girl starts chiming in with what it looked like.
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It had monster claws.
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You're not helping. He says, stop.
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Helping, which I did think was really funny. No, stop,
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stop helping. Oh, that got me.
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Um, but, uh, but yeah, so yeah, we, both mothers
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are admitted and, um, we meet this very chipper nurse
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who's escorting them, you know, into the exam room and
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she's just very perky, which is like a dead giveaway, right?
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I don't care for this bitch. I think there was
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just something about her whole vibe that is, was very
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much giving. I am enjoying the shit out of this.
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It just immediately, like, she's just got a sort of
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shit-eating grin, as they say. I've never really understood that expression,
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because eating shit is bad. So, if you're smiling like
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you ate shit, I feel like you wouldn't be smiling. Like,
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I don't get what that phrase even means, but it's
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a thing, so I'm going to say it, because you
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get what that means. But yeah, the whole.
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That she takes is just very unsettling. It's almost gleeful. Mm-hmm.
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Yeah.
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Gleeful is a good word.
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You want the nurse to be kind and compassionate and
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empathetic and not, like, crude or, you know, impatient. But
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you don't want them, like, you know, licking their chops.
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You don't want them going, I love my job. Like, yeah,
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that's not a good sign. Yeah. So, and we get
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like a very thorough, as they put it, exam for
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the two of them, which, um, I definitely was like,
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maybe she just shoved something up their butt because apparently
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she gives both of them a rectal exam, which, uh,
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did surprise me. But I suppose that people just smuggle
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stuff in sometimes like they would in prison.
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So I was thinking the same thing, like more of
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a cavity search than a, you know, exam.
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You know, uh, I thought there would be another Fletch
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joke there because that's a very famous bit from the
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movie where he gets an exam. Oh, really?
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Okay.
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Yeah, it's a famous bit. He starts singing Moon River. Stupid.
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That makes me annoyed. Like a very bad joke that
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I still laugh at.
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So yeah, the boys are in the break room and they,
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they finally find Martin who is the person that asked
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them to come. Yeah.
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Martin is very twitchy. Clearly not. Okay.
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Yeah.
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And, uh, yeah. They ask if he got a chance
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to like, look at the bodies and see, and he,
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stutters over the words as he's like, I don't spend
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any time around bodies anymore. And he's just like, but bodies. And, uh,
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they say at one point, we know what happened in Albuquerque.
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I think it's Albuquerque. It is.
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And he says, you don't know the half, but we
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don't ever get to find out. No, it's never told. No,
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just something bad enough. That he never hunted again afterwards.
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Yeah. I want to know. Is that just me?
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No, I'm curious too.
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I want to know.
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I like this actor too. He shows up a couple
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of different places as a character actor. And I always
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enjoy him. If I'm not mistaken, he used to have
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a recurring role on a show in the late 80s,
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early 90s called The Pretender. That was a wild show.
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I don't know if it holds up. I don't know
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if anybody in the chat is old enough to remember it.
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But that was a wild show.
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That one I am not familiar with. But yeah, this guy,
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it's just like, you know, he's saying that he knows
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enough to know whether there's something hinky happening. But the
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problem is there's nobody who has seen anything who isn't
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also seeing lots of other shit that isn't necessarily there.
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So it's not like we've got really reliable witnesses and the,
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the fact that it's just this amorphous, like it's a
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thing that even it's MO, like, It looks like they
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committed suicide, but is that how they actually died? Like,
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the whole thing is a complete mystery from top to bottom.
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So we've got to do the entire investigation.
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Yeah.
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And it seems so clear to me in this moment that, like,
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he is not doing well. So later when they try
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to involve him, I was just like, what are you thinking, guys? Like,
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absolutely not.
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They're thinking... If we can just snap him out of this,
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he can just regress right back into hunter mode. Oh,
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my God. We've got to shake him and let him
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know how important it is, and he'll snap into it. Yeah,
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it's wildly unrealistic and not reading the room appropriately at all.
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Yeah. It's like.
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I'm glad that the show doesn't decide to have him
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overcome it and, and help after all, like he does
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help eventually when she is going really, really left because
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there's kind of, you know, but I liked it initially.
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It's just very much. I cannot do that. And him
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walking away and not them, like continuing to pressure him.
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It's just the fact that circumstances get really dire. So yeah, like,
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you know, it's going to come for me next is
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sort of the, I was going to say subtext, but
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it's really just the text. But yeah, I, I also
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kind of like wondered if in the end he was
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going to leave with them because we were going to
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find out that a lot of what he is dealing
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with was a result of this poison that she is
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able to like inject somehow through the skin of to
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make people begin to see things and have these hallucinations.
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And I thought maybe it's going to turn out that
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he was doing a lot worse than he would have
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been otherwise. But it seems like she waits to target
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different people. It's not like she's going around making everybody
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a target all the time.
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It's been like five people in the last couple of
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months is what he tells the boys.
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Five people in four months.
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Yeah. So, and I, and it sounds like he's been
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locked up longer than that.
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Yes.
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And so it's a long enough to notice a significant change.
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And that makes me think that whatever he was in
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for was like legit. Yeah. you know, he decided he
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needed to be there for, you know, whatever his reasons are. But,
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so I was kind of glad that he didn't leave
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with them.
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I'd like once, like, I was like, I accept that he,
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that his illness is actually dealing with this trauma. I
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just wondered if the show was going to do that
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and have it just be like, kind of, it would
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have been too easy, but sometimes they like to be
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too easy. And so I was sort of feeling also like,
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I don't want him left there, but the threat's gone
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by then. So he can be left there. It's okay.
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It's safe now. Wow.
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Yeah. Let's hope.
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I think. Yeah. So, sorry, I'm jumping over to the,
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Next scene, because we have the boys who get split
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up and the doctor has Dean in the afternoon group
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separate from Sam, which is because they have a codependent relationship,
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which is correct. It is a correct.
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He has made a wise observation.
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Can't argue with this. I really can't.
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And it kind of makes you think maybe he does
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know what he's doing.
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Yeah, this, I think, is meant to and did cause
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me to stop and kind of be like, okay, is
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he splitting them up because he knows what they are?
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And that's what this is? That he doesn't want the
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boys together because they are hunters and he's aware and
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he wants them to not be effective?
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Right.
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And It was possible, but I just did kind of
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prefer that he just actually knows what he's talking about.
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And he calls them dangerously codependent.
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Which I feel like you're editorializing a little here, but
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you know.
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A little bit, but you're also not wrong.
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For codependent brothers, though, I really do think they split
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up a little bit too much. So I don't know
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if I'm just rooting for them to be even more codependent.
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And that's my toxic trait potentially. But yeah, I definitely
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had a moment of panic. And then when he said that,
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I was like, is the fact is the very fact
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that I am panicking an indication that he is right,
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because that's how it can be in therapy when they
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start to do a thing or ask a thing. And
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you're just like, No, no, no, no. No, no, no.
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No, no.
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We're not doing that. And then you suddenly realize, oh,
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that's why we're doing this. Because I acted like that
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in response to it. I see. Maybe you've got a point.
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Yeah, I hate those moments. I know. So we get
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Sam first as he is.
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In a circle with the guy who was across from
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the woman who's murdered at the beginning of the episode,
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who watched her get killed and scream for help. They
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utterly ignore her. It's pretty awful. I, this is just,
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this plays into a fear of mine, which is the
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idea that you're like asking for help and nobody believes you.
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That's the thing that I find the creepiest is not
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just that nobody helps. That sucks. And there can be
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a lot of different reasons that they don't help you
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that also suck. But specifically the fear in me is
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people are seeing that you are suffering and they do
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not believe the thing that is happening to you is happening.
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That particular fear. is just something that when it comes
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up in media, I have particularly a hard time with
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because it's just so the, the terror of that idea
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of not being believed, I think is directly tied into
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a fear of being misunderstood that I have. So there's
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just this whole, like it's part of why I just
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over verbalize. because i just really want to make sure
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you get what i'm saying and understand you do right
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you know so this guy you know is trying to
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say that he actually saw this thing this woman is
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attempting to help group is starting and the doctor is
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like who wants to start us off and this guy
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ted his He's putting his hand up and the doctor
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is pretending like anybody else, literally anybody else want to go.
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This doctor just long suffering sigh. This reminded me of
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the beginning of Death Becomes Her. Have you seen that?
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Not in ages, but I have seen it.
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There's just a whole bit with a woman who they
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ask if anybody has anything to say and she raises
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her hand and they ignore her and find nobody wants
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to volunteer anything. And finally they have no choice. And
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they're like, what is it that you want to talk about?
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And she says the name of like her arch enemy
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and everybody begins to scream because apparently she's just been
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saying that name when she is asked what she wants
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to talk about now for like, you know, three straight
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years or something. And so she, There is a part
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of me, though, that's like, y'all didn't volunteer anything. So
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I do feel.
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Right. If you didn't want to hear it, you should
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have spoke up.
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Yeah. Maybe this is a little bit on you. I
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don't feel like this would have had room to happen
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if you decided to step up and open up a
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little bit, perhaps. But Dean looks at the doctor very
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intently when he is saying to this guy quite firmly,
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one could say angrily. Monsters are not real.
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Yeah. Sam.
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Did I say Dean?
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Sam. Yeah.
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Ah, okay.
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It's okay. But it's Sam and Martin in the group. Yeah.
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And they are giving each other the eye as soon
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as he starts talking about monsters. They're both like, what's this? Mm-hmm.
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And then that's when it starts going off the rails
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because the blonde girl starts piping up about the lobster
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claws and everything.
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Mm-hmm.
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And then, yeah, the doctor leans in and threatens, basically, Ted, like,
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we're not doing this conversation. It's not good for group.
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Do I need to call the orderlies?
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Yeah.
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And that kind of shuts him down.
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I felt bad for him, man. And the way that
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the doctor's like, or are you going to behave? And
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that kind of language is just so infantilizing. And I
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understand the need for it in this sort of situation,
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but it also just feels like shit.
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Yeah. This episode is kind of like triggering for me
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for a lot of different reasons. But, you know, being
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hospitalized and not taken seriously, being treated, you know, like
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you're crazy. even if you are legit, you know, crazy,
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but being treated that way, being like sort of patronized.
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Yeah.
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You know, it just, it's, it's all like, like, yep.
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You know, no good, no good. Uh, Yeah, then we
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leave group. Oh, go ahead. I'm sorry.
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There was just a line from one of the Vorkosigan
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books where somebody is reflecting on how people react to madmen,
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as he's putting it. And he says something like, sometimes
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I think that what people call madness is just somebody
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dealing with pain in a way that's irritating to them.
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And I was just like, oh, there it is. That's it.
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That sounds about right.
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It's just, I don't want to see it. I don't
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want to hear it. Just, you know, like, ugh, you're
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so annoying.
489
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There's a whole, like, the phenomenon of, like, we just lost,
490
00:30:40.369 --> 00:30:44.789
what's her name, Hayden Panetteri. And so there were people
491
00:30:44.849 --> 00:30:51.369
talking about how, you know, we prefer a dead, mentally
492
00:30:51.410 --> 00:30:55.059
ill person to an alive one. Like once they're gone,
493
00:30:55.140 --> 00:30:58.269
then we have all the empathy and support and kindness,
494
00:30:58.569 --> 00:31:02.170
you know, towards their memory. But when a person is
495
00:31:02.230 --> 00:31:06.829
alive and experiencing a crisis, whether it is substance abuse
496
00:31:06.849 --> 00:31:10.059
or mental condition or whatever, those people tend to be
497
00:31:10.619 --> 00:31:14.940
kind of unlikable because of their, you know, their struggles.
498
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:17.880
They can be unpleasant to be around. They can be,
499
00:31:17.900 --> 00:31:20.059
you know, and we don't want to deal with that.
500
00:31:20.079 --> 00:31:20.140
So.
501
00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:24.380
You know, but then once they're gone, we're just like, oh,
502
00:31:24.740 --> 00:31:25.000
you know.
503
00:31:25.019 --> 00:31:26.640
If only they'd reached out.
504
00:31:26.660 --> 00:31:31.779
Mm-hmm. Well. Yeah. It's inconvenient. It's unpleasant. It can be
505
00:31:31.819 --> 00:31:36.630
disruptive to your life. So, yeah. A lot of people just.
506
00:31:37.049 --> 00:31:39.309
And again, I'm not that cast in judgment because it
507
00:31:39.410 --> 00:31:41.230
can be really disruptive to your life.
508
00:31:41.329 --> 00:31:41.650
Oh, yeah.
509
00:31:41.670 --> 00:31:43.569
It can take over your life. And sometimes you do
510
00:31:43.609 --> 00:31:47.069
have to make tough choices to protect, you know, your
511
00:31:47.750 --> 00:31:50.519
own life. Mm-hmm. But it's just sort of a cultural thing.
512
00:31:50.990 --> 00:31:54.220
you know, societal phenomenon, the way we treat it, you know,
513
00:31:54.819 --> 00:31:56.680
when they're living versus when they're dead, kind of like
514
00:31:56.700 --> 00:31:58.039
we treat unborn babies.
515
00:31:58.559 --> 00:31:58.880
Yes.
516
00:31:58.960 --> 00:32:02.279
You know, as being like the most sacred thing. And
517
00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:04.119
then the kid gets here and we're just like, man,
518
00:32:04.180 --> 00:32:04.529
good luck.
519
00:32:04.549 --> 00:32:11.430
Figure it out. Yeah. It's, um, it, the, if, if
520
00:32:11.509 --> 00:32:13.910
only they had reached out thing always gets me because
521
00:32:13.950 --> 00:32:17.849
like on the one hand they may have, And you may,
522
00:32:17.930 --> 00:32:21.190
for very good reasons, not really have had time for them. Like,
523
00:32:21.230 --> 00:32:25.390
this happens. And then there's also, they may have, but
524
00:32:25.410 --> 00:32:28.099
their insurance didn't cover it. They may have, but they
525
00:32:28.140 --> 00:32:31.940
couldn't not go to work. They may have, but they
526
00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:35.799
were on a wait list and nobody could see them. Like,
527
00:32:36.069 --> 00:32:39.210
we just have a system that doesn't reward reaching out
528
00:32:39.230 --> 00:32:40.019
for help at all.
529
00:32:41.259 --> 00:32:41.670
It's true.
530
00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:45.740
It just penalizes you on a variety of levels. And
531
00:32:45.819 --> 00:32:48.640
then it's just like, why, why aren't you doing well?
532
00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:50.579
How does this happen?
533
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:52.720
This is so weird. I mean, oh my God.
534
00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:54.740
Such a mystery.
535
00:32:56.579 --> 00:33:05.529
So this group is followed then by Dean getting to
536
00:33:05.589 --> 00:33:06.930
chat with a doctor.
537
00:33:07.730 --> 00:33:10.470
Yeah. Whose name is Erica Cartwright.
538
00:33:11.710 --> 00:33:15.940
I could not help yelling Cartwright because of that. That's
539
00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:18.180
just in my brain when I hear that name now
540
00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:20.180
from the Seinfeld episode.
541
00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:21.400
Cartwright!
542
00:33:21.460 --> 00:33:22.000
Cartwright!
543
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:22.660
Cartwright!
544
00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:27.289
Marshall and I were just like yelling that at each
545
00:33:27.349 --> 00:33:29.470
other in the kitchen last night too. So it was
546
00:33:29.490 --> 00:33:32.089
like very forefront of my brain.
547
00:33:32.170 --> 00:33:39.980
Very nice. Yeah. And yeah, he's all, she's like a
548
00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:43.509
nice looking young lady. So of course Dean is just like, Oh,
549
00:33:43.980 --> 00:33:49.769
hello there. Um, and they have, what do you think
550
00:33:49.789 --> 00:33:52.130
of this conversation? Cause he's like, I got some questions
551
00:33:52.170 --> 00:33:53.970
for you. And she's like, that's good. Cause I have
552
00:33:53.990 --> 00:33:54.750
some for you too.
553
00:33:55.009 --> 00:33:58.559
Yeah. I thought it was surprising how much she was
554
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:01.980
willing to give in exchange. That was the thing that
555
00:34:02.019 --> 00:34:05.079
kept tripping me up is that we're treating this like
556
00:34:05.140 --> 00:34:08.730
it's an exchange. Both of us are treating it that way.
557
00:34:09.630 --> 00:34:18.039
When normally they will really insist on focusing on you
558
00:34:19.059 --> 00:34:23.199
and point out you continuing to change the subject is
559
00:34:23.300 --> 00:34:26.059
like a tactic and they're not going to play along.
560
00:34:26.139 --> 00:34:30.429
And so... The fact that she was actually answering his
561
00:34:30.530 --> 00:34:33.650
questions was what kind of caught me off guard. But
562
00:34:33.690 --> 00:34:36.110
it was not like it caught me off guard enough
563
00:34:36.170 --> 00:34:39.690
to really suspect anything. It was just enough for me
564
00:34:39.730 --> 00:34:45.199
to be like, oh, that's surprising. Okay. But that was it.
565
00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:46.219
You know?
566
00:34:46.300 --> 00:34:49.099
What do you think about the conversation now that you
567
00:34:49.219 --> 00:34:51.920
know that this was all in Dean's mind and these
568
00:34:51.980 --> 00:34:55.380
are the questions that he basically was asking himself?
569
00:34:56.869 --> 00:34:59.429
I don't remember what she asks him very well.
570
00:34:59.449 --> 00:35:03.889
Uh, let me go back. I was just there. So
571
00:35:05.019 --> 00:35:06.219
I'm jumping over there too.
572
00:35:06.420 --> 00:35:08.599
Here we go. When she sits down, this actress too,
573
00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:12.980
I've never, um, she looks so familiar, but I can't
574
00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:13.599
place her.
575
00:35:14.059 --> 00:35:17.639
Somebody said she played Nora Allen on the flash. I
576
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:19.420
don't know if that's helpful to you or not.
577
00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:21.099
Not filling in.
578
00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:26.010
But so the first question she asked, she says, um,
579
00:35:26.789 --> 00:35:28.690
where are we at? I've got some questions for you.
580
00:35:29.699 --> 00:35:31.880
He calls, he does a little Hannibal Lecter thing, which
581
00:35:31.900 --> 00:35:34.699
is like, really, we don't need to do that. She says,
582
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:38.000
how many hours do you sleep a night? And then
583
00:35:38.059 --> 00:35:40.400
he answers that three or four. Then he says, can
584
00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:41.260
you tell me about.
585
00:35:41.409 --> 00:35:43.730
Three or four every couple nights?
586
00:35:44.409 --> 00:35:45.829
Oh, that's true. Every couple of nights. You're right.
587
00:35:45.849 --> 00:35:51.489
Which, um, I do think is an exaggeration. I don't
588
00:35:51.530 --> 00:35:52.550
think you sleep that little.
589
00:35:53.409 --> 00:35:55.730
Yeah, I mean, we know he goes, like, days at
590
00:35:55.750 --> 00:35:58.789
a time without sleeping. But I feel like when he crashes,
591
00:35:58.829 --> 00:36:00.230
he probably crashes for more than four hours.
592
00:36:00.289 --> 00:36:03.550
You know, like, your body can only take so much
593
00:36:03.630 --> 00:36:06.409
before you really get forced to bed.
594
00:36:06.429 --> 00:36:07.409
Yeah.
595
00:36:08.449 --> 00:36:13.469
But nevertheless, she asks how much he drinks as well.
596
00:36:14.380 --> 00:36:18.599
And he says around 50 a week. Yeah.
597
00:36:18.619 --> 00:36:24.639
Yeah. He says, I gotta sleep sometimes, so he starts
598
00:36:24.659 --> 00:36:30.989
doing the math seven times. Somewhere in the mid-50s. I.
599
00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:33.880
He doesn't drink that much.
600
00:36:34.440 --> 00:36:38.239
Look, maybe he... It does feel like he's trying to
601
00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:39.780
be shocking, right?
602
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:49.929
That, like he's being flippant, but also... And this was
603
00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:51.400
at the very beginning of the episode. Was it at
604
00:36:51.420 --> 00:36:52.900
the beginning of the episode? Maybe it was a little
605
00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:57.059
bit later. When Sam is talking to Dean about how
606
00:36:57.139 --> 00:37:02.820
he's been behaving since Ellen and Joe. And how he's
607
00:37:02.860 --> 00:37:05.139
not doing. And Dean is like, we got to push
608
00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:08.599
all that stuff down. That's what we do, you know. So.
609
00:37:08.619 --> 00:37:14.889
I did appreciate Sam just being like, you do this
610
00:37:15.809 --> 00:37:19.280
every time. Just like, sir, you don't think I know
611
00:37:19.300 --> 00:37:22.380
your MO by now? Like, come on. It's insulting.
612
00:37:23.139 --> 00:37:26.619
So I think it's possible in the weeks since that
613
00:37:26.679 --> 00:37:30.840
happened with the devil not, you know, Colt not working
614
00:37:30.860 --> 00:37:33.820
on devil, losing Joe and Ellen. I think it's possible
615
00:37:33.860 --> 00:37:36.199
that he has not been sleeping as much and that
616
00:37:36.260 --> 00:37:39.699
he has been drinking too much because that would be
617
00:37:39.980 --> 00:37:45.539
how he, how he copes. I can accept that. Yeah.
618
00:37:46.329 --> 00:37:49.929
if we want to like dig into why he's asking
619
00:37:50.050 --> 00:37:53.829
himself these questions, it would be because he knows that
620
00:37:54.070 --> 00:37:58.760
the way he's coping is not sound or healthy. So
621
00:37:58.780 --> 00:38:04.059
he's interrogating himself about his, you know, his behavior.
622
00:38:05.820 --> 00:38:09.719
This is the thing that's so interesting about our own
623
00:38:09.780 --> 00:38:16.340
psychology is like that. If you, if you, ask and
624
00:38:16.619 --> 00:38:21.380
really like stay open to the answer. You know, when
625
00:38:21.420 --> 00:38:25.199
you're fucking up, but you've got to make yourself stop
626
00:38:25.260 --> 00:38:29.260
and ask and actually listen. And we are just really
627
00:38:29.380 --> 00:38:36.489
professionally adept at not letting anything in between all of
628
00:38:36.530 --> 00:38:39.429
the other things we're so busy with that. It's a
629
00:38:39.570 --> 00:38:43.510
watertight space and nothing can get in and get you
630
00:38:43.530 --> 00:38:44.670
to ask that question.
631
00:38:44.869 --> 00:38:47.219
Yeah. You wish your pipes in your house were sealed
632
00:38:47.320 --> 00:38:47.659
as well.
633
00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:51.980
Right. Yeah. Right up until the moment that it isn't sealed.
634
00:38:52.579 --> 00:39:02.230
And then that one little pinprick hole turns into an explosion. But.
635
00:39:03.269 --> 00:39:04.510
That's how it happens, kids.
636
00:39:04.789 --> 00:39:07.309
It's either there's a hole and it just all goes
637
00:39:07.369 --> 00:39:11.429
to shit or you get laid low some other way
638
00:39:11.769 --> 00:39:14.579
and there is nothing to do but ask yourself that question.
639
00:39:15.349 --> 00:39:19.989
Because the other means of distracting yourself are taken away somehow,
640
00:39:20.619 --> 00:39:32.280
you know? And I do not... I... really can't imagine
641
00:39:33.920 --> 00:39:36.119
how it must be for the two of them with
642
00:39:36.179 --> 00:39:42.320
these deaths to like, if they're not talking about it,
643
00:39:43.860 --> 00:39:47.960
what is going on? What are you doing then? You know, like,
644
00:39:50.010 --> 00:39:54.289
Did you not weep? Or did you manfully in the bathroom?
645
00:39:54.989 --> 00:39:59.280
And Sam pretended he didn't see. And then you came
646
00:39:59.380 --> 00:40:01.679
out and just wouldn't talk about it. And Sam knows
647
00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:03.639
that he can't cry in front of you. So that's
648
00:40:03.679 --> 00:40:04.579
like a non-starter.
649
00:40:05.739 --> 00:40:08.219
That's how I imagined exactly how it went.
650
00:40:08.500 --> 00:40:09.280
Yeah, I guess.
651
00:40:10.949 --> 00:40:20.619
It's just, it's so like unsustainable. This, uh, This sort of...
652
00:40:21.659 --> 00:40:23.840
The whole thing that Dean says about, you know, shoving
653
00:40:23.880 --> 00:40:26.489
it down and burying it and putting it away so
654
00:40:26.510 --> 00:40:28.929
that we can do what we have to do is
655
00:40:29.170 --> 00:40:30.570
a recipe for disaster.
656
00:40:30.670 --> 00:40:31.530
Yeah, it is.
657
00:40:31.590 --> 00:40:35.070
You cannot live your life that way. Trust me, I
658
00:40:35.110 --> 00:40:38.510
have tried. It does not work. It will come back
659
00:40:38.550 --> 00:40:45.619
and get you. And... Again, what did she say? You know...
660
00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:48.760
you create the hell. I just give you the Legos
661
00:40:49.019 --> 00:40:53.000
or whatever, you know? Yeah. And, and the visions that
662
00:40:53.980 --> 00:40:56.699
Dean is having, as opposed to the ones that Sam
663
00:40:56.760 --> 00:41:01.170
is having are very different. Yeah, they are, you know,
664
00:41:03.269 --> 00:41:04.650
which I think is really interesting.
665
00:41:05.969 --> 00:41:08.889
Well, they are at first, I guess later they're more similar.
666
00:41:09.090 --> 00:41:14.480
Cause it's just like Sam having everybody blame him for everything.
667
00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:17.989
which is sort of what Dean is also doing, but
668
00:41:18.030 --> 00:41:21.769
it just comes sooner and from one person, whereas Sam
669
00:41:21.909 --> 00:41:24.550
is like dealing with everybody accusing him.
670
00:41:25.630 --> 00:41:29.269
Yeah. Dean is hallucinating race everywhere.
671
00:41:29.550 --> 00:41:29.909
Yeah.
672
00:41:30.369 --> 00:41:33.869
Like, you know, a monster that's everywhere that he can't fight,
673
00:41:33.949 --> 00:41:41.710
that he can't get to. Where Sam is envisioning people
674
00:41:41.750 --> 00:41:47.969
that are attacking him. Um, and accusing him and calling
675
00:41:48.010 --> 00:41:51.250
him names and all that stuff. And then finally Dean's
676
00:41:51.309 --> 00:41:56.170
last hallucination with the fake doctor is her hurling all the,
677
00:41:56.530 --> 00:42:00.360
all the accusations at him that he already feels, but
678
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:04.340
hasn't verbalized, you know, at least with Sam, we know
679
00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:06.179
that these are things that get him because these are
680
00:42:06.199 --> 00:42:08.199
things that like him, he's been called, you know, a
681
00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:11.400
freak and a monster and dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. Um,
682
00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:14.820
But yeah. So I just thought it was really interesting. Their,
683
00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:18.820
their hells are similar, but distinct to each brother.
684
00:42:18.840 --> 00:42:27.389
Yeah. Yeah. The, the, the fact that he's seeing monsters
685
00:42:27.449 --> 00:42:33.329
everywhere specifically, that is kind of like, what is that
686
00:42:33.570 --> 00:42:38.869
in comparison to people attacking? Cause it's still kind of like,
687
00:42:38.889 --> 00:42:42.090
they're not attacking Dean, but there's just threat everywhere.
688
00:42:42.940 --> 00:42:43.139
Mm-hmm.
689
00:42:43.719 --> 00:42:47.139
Which with them not attacking is almost worse.
690
00:42:47.239 --> 00:42:50.539
Yeah, and Sam's not seeing monsters attack him. He's seeing
691
00:42:50.659 --> 00:42:56.989
people attack him, you know. Yeah. Interesting.
692
00:43:02.530 --> 00:43:07.659
So this conversation, you know, we have this back and forth,
693
00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:12.000
and then we go to Sam and Dean in the hallway.
694
00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:16.840
talking about any leads that they may have had. Dean
695
00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:19.039
insisting that they need to get the fuck out of here.
696
00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:23.760
And then an attractive young woman comes up to him
697
00:43:23.980 --> 00:43:30.699
and plants one on him very enthusiastically. And then walks
698
00:43:30.739 --> 00:43:34.300
past and smacks him on the butt. And he's like,
699
00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:37.239
all right, I spoke too soon. Maybe this place is
700
00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:37.800
all right.
701
00:43:38.570 --> 00:43:40.699
This is also where he says, I just got threeped.
702
00:43:41.710 --> 00:43:44.690
No, that's later. No, it's right now.
703
00:43:45.369 --> 00:43:49.250
It's now. Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. Cause he's referring to
704
00:43:49.269 --> 00:43:50.989
the conversation with Dr. Cartwright.
705
00:43:51.010 --> 00:43:53.599
That ends with her being like, let's talk about your father.
706
00:43:53.619 --> 00:43:55.599
Right.
707
00:43:55.920 --> 00:43:56.360
Okay.
708
00:43:57.440 --> 00:43:57.780
Yeah.
709
00:43:57.900 --> 00:43:59.119
Yeah. Okay.
710
00:43:59.219 --> 00:44:02.199
I don't care for that. I didn't care for it either,
711
00:44:02.940 --> 00:44:04.880
but it, but it made me think, and this is
712
00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:08.570
my God, the nineties were a weird time guys. But
713
00:44:08.610 --> 00:44:10.269
there was a time in my life where I was
714
00:44:10.309 --> 00:44:14.929
around a certain type of people and they were always finding,
715
00:44:14.949 --> 00:44:19.510
they were like conspiracy people, but it was pre-internet. And
716
00:44:19.590 --> 00:44:24.639
they were always finding like messages and like, you know, MKUltra,
717
00:44:24.679 --> 00:44:28.219
they were obsessed with that. And the therapist was one
718
00:44:28.260 --> 00:44:31.000
of the big ones. And it would be like, why
719
00:44:31.039 --> 00:44:33.360
you can't trust them? Well, you know, it's just, if
720
00:44:33.380 --> 00:44:36.219
you break it down, it just, it's the rapist. is
721
00:44:36.260 --> 00:44:36.619
what it.
722
00:44:36.579 --> 00:44:40.860
Means oh my god.
723
00:44:40.420 --> 00:44:43.610
Yeah yeah and i'm just like that oh my god
724
00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:48.710
guys come on but yeah.
725
00:44:48.170 --> 00:44:52.329
There is a funny like one panel cartoon where somebody
726
00:44:52.849 --> 00:44:56.170
is painting psycho the rapist on a door and the
727
00:44:56.670 --> 00:45:00.500
guy is walking up behind him going I said psychotherapist.
728
00:45:03.579 --> 00:45:13.079
Oh, that's funny.
729
00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:16.920
But yeah, any time that we're going to toss around
730
00:45:16.940 --> 00:45:20.039
the R word as just like, oh, it's a funny
731
00:45:20.119 --> 00:45:22.900
because a thing that I didn't like happened. I'm never
732
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:24.860
going to be on board. Let's just not.
733
00:45:25.219 --> 00:45:26.139
Let's not do it.
734
00:45:26.610 --> 00:45:33.610
Let's not do it. so this this chick that kisses
735
00:45:33.650 --> 00:45:39.250
him there's a moment later where it's like oh she
736
00:45:40.150 --> 00:45:43.440
like maybe somebody infects us with something and oh the
737
00:45:43.480 --> 00:45:46.280
kissy girl is what I am assuming but I will
738
00:45:46.300 --> 00:45:48.760
be honest I probably should have thought it was weirder
739
00:45:48.800 --> 00:45:52.670
that she kissed him than I did I just really
740
00:45:52.989 --> 00:45:56.849
didn't get phased by it. And she raised no red
741
00:45:56.929 --> 00:46:00.420
flags for me. And even when he's like that, oh,
742
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:03.360
it could do it through saliva. I didn't think of
743
00:46:03.440 --> 00:46:08.769
her like for a good second or two. Really? Because just...
744
00:46:09.650 --> 00:46:12.260
the urge to walk up to him and lay one
745
00:46:12.340 --> 00:46:14.539
on him. I just understand so profoundly.
746
00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:17.619
It was so relatable. You're like, there's nothing weird about
747
00:46:17.639 --> 00:46:18.619
that behavior at all.
748
00:46:18.739 --> 00:46:22.019
I can't like, how am I supposed to fall this woman?
749
00:46:22.300 --> 00:46:27.940
You know? I mean, she's just, I'm, I'm this close
750
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:32.349
to being, being like, we're all thinking it, you know? Um,
751
00:46:33.150 --> 00:46:36.650
but anyway, so eventually there does come a point where
752
00:46:36.710 --> 00:46:40.730
she walks up to Sam and she, kisses him. Sam
753
00:46:40.750 --> 00:46:45.619
is way less interested than Dean is. Mouth is shut
754
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:51.179
like a steel trap. And I did kind of enjoy
755
00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:54.820
how like very much he's just going, uh-uh, no, no, no, no.
756
00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:59.679
And her saying, I want him now. He's larger.
757
00:46:59.699 --> 00:47:03.630
I love Dean is like assuming she's here for him
758
00:47:03.650 --> 00:47:06.110
because he starts telling her, no, no, no, not this time.
759
00:47:06.130 --> 00:47:06.969
Not right now.
760
00:47:07.489 --> 00:47:11.500
She like fucking goes right past him.
761
00:47:11.539 --> 00:47:12.659
It's so embarrassing.
762
00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:14.760
There's a look on his face that's just like, wait
763
00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:16.480
a minute, I thought that was mine.
764
00:47:16.500 --> 00:47:19.179
Did what we have mean nothing to you?
765
00:47:22.500 --> 00:47:31.489
But yeah, this... I have tended towards, obviously, being like
766
00:47:31.530 --> 00:47:34.510
a Dean girly. But I really must say that as
767
00:47:34.570 --> 00:47:39.150
we get further into the show... Sam is really having
768
00:47:39.210 --> 00:47:42.869
a glow up and every now and then there'll be
769
00:47:42.969 --> 00:47:47.230
just him in a t-shirt and I'm just like, Oh right.
770
00:47:47.389 --> 00:47:48.690
He's ripped as hell.
771
00:47:49.269 --> 00:47:53.670
And like glowing with like a, a golden tan and
772
00:47:54.190 --> 00:47:56.530
just larger.
773
00:47:56.550 --> 00:48:00.420
Yeah. And you're into that sort of thing.
774
00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:06.820
I am. Rashawn is into smaller guys and, But I do,
775
00:48:07.139 --> 00:48:13.780
I like a strapping lad. So, yeah.
776
00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:13.869
The.
777
00:48:16.539 --> 00:48:19.420
Sorry, I got in my head there for a second.
778
00:48:19.579 --> 00:48:22.820
I was like, where did she go?
779
00:48:23.400 --> 00:48:27.389
So we hear this poor dude yelling for help, and
780
00:48:27.409 --> 00:48:30.010
they try to get to him. And by the time
781
00:48:30.050 --> 00:48:33.619
they get there, he is hanging from the ceiling. Now,
782
00:48:33.920 --> 00:48:36.679
I was like, get him down from there, because hanging
783
00:48:36.739 --> 00:48:39.960
takes a minute. And he could very well still be alive.
784
00:48:40.480 --> 00:48:42.820
But it is revealed that he was killed by other
785
00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:44.960
means and then just strung up to make it look
786
00:48:44.980 --> 00:48:48.760
like a suicide, which really does indicate how poorly done
787
00:48:49.380 --> 00:48:54.989
the autopsies or even just basic medical exams are with
788
00:48:55.010 --> 00:48:56.929
these patients. How can you say she slit her wrist
789
00:48:56.949 --> 00:49:00.329
when there's clearly an entry wound by her scalp?
790
00:49:01.630 --> 00:49:04.050
What are you... Well, that's the thing though, right? Like
791
00:49:04.090 --> 00:49:07.630
when the wound or the mortal injury is so apparent,
792
00:49:07.730 --> 00:49:11.679
then we don't even look for anything else. You know,
793
00:49:11.780 --> 00:49:15.360
that's just the nature of the business.
794
00:49:15.550 --> 00:49:19.050
But this wouldn't even really require looking when you're just
795
00:49:19.170 --> 00:49:23.099
cleaning up the body. I wouldn't like it's in a
796
00:49:23.139 --> 00:49:25.519
spot that's like a little hard to see but it's
797
00:49:26.510 --> 00:49:29.769
by no means super like it's not like a puncture
798
00:49:29.809 --> 00:49:33.090
mark from like a hypodermic needle you could fit your
799
00:49:33.110 --> 00:49:34.190
whole finger in there.
800
00:49:33.989 --> 00:49:40.130
Yeah it's like they put a q-tip in it And
801
00:49:40.889 --> 00:49:42.880
like wiggle it around a little bit and it opens
802
00:49:43.010 --> 00:49:49.380
up a bit more. But it just, I think to
803
00:49:49.420 --> 00:49:53.260
your larger point, it just like, these are people that
804
00:49:53.480 --> 00:50:00.159
aren't considered aren't, they're considered not worthy of a second book. Yeah.
805
00:50:00.380 --> 00:50:00.920
Okay.
806
00:50:01.320 --> 00:50:05.900
Yeah. They're just sort of, you know, well, crazy people
807
00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:09.570
going to kill themselves. That's what they do. Right. You know, Um,
808
00:50:10.409 --> 00:50:12.690
no foul play here. No need to, you know, take
809
00:50:12.710 --> 00:50:17.409
a second look at anything. Um, which is another reason
810
00:50:17.449 --> 00:50:21.500
why this makes like perfect feeding ground. Like the whole
811
00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:26.079
setup is perfect between having captive victims, having victims that
812
00:50:26.119 --> 00:50:29.699
won't be believed to having deaths that won't be investigated
813
00:50:29.719 --> 00:50:37.440
as long as you make it look super obvious. Um, yeah. Hmm. Well,
814
00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:40.539
this is when they, uh, pull out the brain.
815
00:50:41.420 --> 00:50:46.750
This is, I really thought, cause like they, they stick
816
00:50:46.769 --> 00:50:49.030
the Q-tip in there and you all know that I'm
817
00:50:49.090 --> 00:50:56.650
already like not on board with that. And then Sam says, well,
818
00:50:57.630 --> 00:50:59.670
I think we got to like go in there and
819
00:50:59.909 --> 00:51:07.800
looks over at, I think that, that looks very much
820
00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:11.329
like an axle grinder. But yeah, I believe that's just
821
00:51:11.369 --> 00:51:17.500
like a bone saw. And Dean waits outside. I do
822
00:51:17.579 --> 00:51:20.420
think it's interesting how Dean doesn't have the stomach for
823
00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:23.019
a lot of the like medical parts of things. And
824
00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:23.800
Sam does.
825
00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:26.019
Yeah, that's Sam. That's Sam all day long.
826
00:51:26.179 --> 00:51:32.610
Yeah. I really had hoped that we'd just hear the
827
00:51:33.130 --> 00:51:36.349
saw and then go in and he'd just have the
828
00:51:36.389 --> 00:51:39.110
brain out and we wouldn't have to do any of the.
829
00:51:40.920 --> 00:51:43.559
Nope, we had to do it. We have to do
830
00:51:43.619 --> 00:51:49.630
it all. We really had to do it. Sam gets
831
00:51:50.190 --> 00:51:53.809
all up in there, pulls the cat back, lays it
832
00:51:53.849 --> 00:51:54.969
nicely on the table.
833
00:51:55.389 --> 00:51:55.969
It's just.
834
00:51:59.730 --> 00:52:01.429
The way the top of the head comes off, it's
835
00:52:01.469 --> 00:52:05.829
just so... It's like a fucking Halloween jar full of candy.
836
00:52:05.989 --> 00:52:07.610
And the brain is.
837
00:52:10.550 --> 00:52:13.969
Like a piece of charcoal.
838
00:52:14.190 --> 00:52:16.989
It's like, yeah, it's flame broiled. I said flame broiled
839
00:52:17.010 --> 00:52:20.630
during the live, but that's all I can say. It
840
00:52:20.849 --> 00:52:22.269
is crispy.
841
00:52:22.489 --> 00:52:23.179
Crispy.
842
00:52:23.840 --> 00:52:28.480
It has been completely, Sam says, sucked dry, but I
843
00:52:28.500 --> 00:52:32.219
feel like more than that. It's more than just being
844
00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:35.619
sucked dry. Something else is going on here. Because this
845
00:52:35.699 --> 00:52:39.800
shit is just like a black, flaky, crispy, Like I
846
00:52:39.800 --> 00:52:41.250
thought it was going to turn to dust in his
847
00:52:41.289 --> 00:52:45.110
hands if he kept holding it too long. Yeah.
848
00:52:45.190 --> 00:52:50.610
It was stiff, you know, which I think is where
849
00:52:50.750 --> 00:52:54.909
it looking like it's been charred because like, even if
850
00:52:54.969 --> 00:52:59.829
it were drained, it would still probably be like the
851
00:52:59.869 --> 00:53:04.650
right color and maybe be like gummy and whatnot, but
852
00:53:04.710 --> 00:53:08.489
still a little floppy, but it's, it's just all wrong.
853
00:53:09.139 --> 00:53:13.829
Yeah, it looks almost like it's completely necrotic. Like, just,
854
00:53:13.949 --> 00:53:17.829
you know, that black that happens when your organs are
855
00:53:17.849 --> 00:53:22.349
starved of oxygen and all that. Like, yeah, it's bad.
856
00:53:23.469 --> 00:53:28.300
And then Dean is out there watching, and then he
857
00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:31.119
alerts that somebody is coming. So we get this little
858
00:53:31.179 --> 00:53:35.760
scene of Sam. putting the brain back in the head
859
00:53:35.820 --> 00:53:37.960
and trying to put the head back. Slapping that head
860
00:53:38.219 --> 00:53:40.980
closed like it's a jewelry box.
861
00:53:43.989 --> 00:53:44.659
My God.
862
00:53:44.679 --> 00:53:49.570
And it's our nurse that walks in and she's just like,
863
00:53:49.610 --> 00:53:52.829
you know, what are you guys doing in here? And
864
00:53:53.510 --> 00:53:58.389
Dean drops his pants and waves his Junk around and
865
00:53:58.429 --> 00:53:59.469
yells pudding.
866
00:54:00.949 --> 00:54:04.489
I really do. There's a very long pause. And for
867
00:54:04.530 --> 00:54:08.380
a second, I was like, if you guys weren't brothers,
868
00:54:08.679 --> 00:54:12.400
I would be suspicious of sexual activity right now. You know?
869
00:54:13.280 --> 00:54:18.199
But don't worry. We get a sexual activity joke anyway.
870
00:54:18.219 --> 00:54:18.940
It's fine.
871
00:54:20.340 --> 00:54:26.309
Oh, God. The first thing that his brain goes to, being...
872
00:54:26.889 --> 00:54:27.750
Drop trow.
873
00:54:29.289 --> 00:54:29.889
Ah, Dean.
874
00:54:31.010 --> 00:54:36.110
Really very predictable in a lot of ways. Whatever works, baby.
875
00:54:36.179 --> 00:54:36.550
It works.
876
00:54:36.590 --> 00:54:37.360
Whatever works.
877
00:54:38.239 --> 00:54:41.800
And, you know, this is the nurse that I don't like.
878
00:54:42.699 --> 00:54:45.579
So she knows perfectly well what they're in here for.
879
00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:51.780
And I bet is just smirking to herself a lot.
880
00:54:52.539 --> 00:54:55.139
Yeah. Because at this point she's already got them poisoned.
881
00:54:55.659 --> 00:54:57.519
So she knows what's coming. She just has to bide
882
00:54:57.559 --> 00:54:58.079
her time.
883
00:55:00.420 --> 00:55:02.880
It really is so insulting, Leader, when she's just like,
884
00:55:02.920 --> 00:55:06.820
you hunters. I'm really not impressed. Everybody acted like you
885
00:55:06.840 --> 00:55:10.340
were something to really worry about. And like, not really.
886
00:55:10.800 --> 00:55:12.900
And even though they wind up getting the better of
887
00:55:12.980 --> 00:55:15.179
her in the end, it is such a close thing
888
00:55:15.219 --> 00:55:17.780
that I can't help but kind of be like, she's
889
00:55:17.820 --> 00:55:18.389
not right.
890
00:55:18.409 --> 00:55:25.949
But they're incapacitated. as she's fighting them. So, you know,
891
00:55:25.969 --> 00:55:30.849
I mean, but that's the thing is.
892
00:55:30.849 --> 00:55:33.510
That she was able to do that to them because
893
00:55:33.570 --> 00:55:36.230
as she puts it, they're just talking about monster hunting
894
00:55:36.530 --> 00:55:40.010
as they come in, which makes it very clear to
895
00:55:40.070 --> 00:55:45.599
a monster that those are hunters.
896
00:55:48.079 --> 00:55:50.340
I wonder if she's a, it's a funny thing to
897
00:55:50.380 --> 00:55:54.230
think about that, uh, because people can show up with
898
00:55:54.269 --> 00:56:00.809
all kinds of delusions and there must've been something about her,
899
00:56:00.929 --> 00:56:06.630
their story specifically that made her be like, huh. You know,
900
00:56:06.769 --> 00:56:09.500
I would like, what did they say that gave it credence,
901
00:56:09.800 --> 00:56:10.179
you know?
902
00:56:10.199 --> 00:56:11.139
Yeah.
903
00:56:12.940 --> 00:56:15.460
And if there was anything about like the apocalypse, maybe
904
00:56:15.500 --> 00:56:21.769
that she's hip too, or, you know, like, Or, you know,
905
00:56:21.829 --> 00:56:23.989
or maybe she doesn't at all. Maybe she just, you know,
906
00:56:24.090 --> 00:56:26.570
she says you guys came in talking about being hunters
907
00:56:26.590 --> 00:56:28.789
and that was a dead giveaway, but I'm just imagining
908
00:56:28.829 --> 00:56:31.510
like people probably come in and say they can do
909
00:56:31.550 --> 00:56:34.699
all kinds of things. They're, you know, they're hunting vampires and,
910
00:56:35.019 --> 00:56:38.199
or they're aliens coming or they're, you know, like Anna
911
00:56:38.219 --> 00:56:40.960
was in a mental institution because she heard angels.
912
00:56:41.300 --> 00:56:45.119
It really does seem like being in an apocalypse is
913
00:56:45.159 --> 00:56:51.559
like the news out there. So like, I accept that
914
00:56:51.980 --> 00:56:55.059
she just hears about that and knows about that. So
915
00:56:55.099 --> 00:56:57.900
when they come in and it's like, Oh, I caused
916
00:56:57.940 --> 00:57:01.099
the apocalypse and there's an angel and there's, you know,
917
00:57:01.239 --> 00:57:05.460
that what they're saying is just so specific that she's like, Oh, okay.
918
00:57:05.969 --> 00:57:09.849
She already knows about Martin too. So it's also possible.
919
00:57:09.909 --> 00:57:13.230
She's just observing him and she sees that he calls
920
00:57:13.449 --> 00:57:13.849
for help.
921
00:57:16.409 --> 00:57:21.130
But yeah, I think, I think that the, uh, Because
922
00:57:21.550 --> 00:57:23.449
everybody seems to know about the apocalypse. All the people
923
00:57:23.489 --> 00:57:26.010
that are hip know about the apocalypse. And a lot
924
00:57:26.030 --> 00:57:31.179
of people, demons and others, know who started it. So
925
00:57:31.380 --> 00:57:33.659
if there was any doubt, she'd be like, oh, okay,
926
00:57:33.699 --> 00:57:36.880
these are the boys. This checks out. Two boys around
927
00:57:36.900 --> 00:57:44.960
that age? Yeah. This checks out. Oh, boys. When they
928
00:57:44.980 --> 00:57:47.079
go to talk to Martin after that. Yeah.
929
00:57:47.780 --> 00:57:50.860
Yeah, this poor dude.
930
00:57:50.880 --> 00:57:54.059
He's got, like, there's all these pictures of clowns on
931
00:57:54.079 --> 00:57:56.260
the wall, and Tina's like, are those Gacy's?
932
00:57:57.179 --> 00:58:02.179
Ugh. Look, I know that some of this is, like,
933
00:58:02.199 --> 00:58:07.900
the art gets it out of your head, you know? Mm-hmm.
934
00:58:08.760 --> 00:58:11.659
But I just can't imagine it's good for your mental
935
00:58:11.699 --> 00:58:16.119
health to be surrounded by drawings of clowns.
936
00:58:17.599 --> 00:58:20.840
It can't be good for anybody under the best circumstances.
937
00:58:20.860 --> 00:58:22.860
You know, like, I just think that's bad.
938
00:58:23.619 --> 00:58:27.230
Yeah. Even if you're, like, doing well in life.
939
00:58:27.349 --> 00:58:27.710
Right.
940
00:58:27.730 --> 00:58:29.949
You want to be surrounded by clowns. What is that?
941
00:58:29.969 --> 00:58:32.070
Is that the good place where Eleanor gets to her
942
00:58:32.130 --> 00:58:34.610
house and it's, like, full of clowns everywhere?
943
00:58:36.460 --> 00:58:36.840
Yup.
944
00:58:37.179 --> 00:58:41.059
Oh, God, I forgot about that. We know how much
945
00:58:41.099 --> 00:58:45.079
you love clowns, so. Oh, that reveal is the worst.
946
00:58:46.030 --> 00:58:50.329
I think there's even like music playing or something. It's
947
00:58:50.389 --> 00:58:52.530
just the whole package.
948
00:58:52.550 --> 00:58:55.559
She's got that weird lift in her apartment where everything
949
00:58:55.599 --> 00:58:56.539
is like racing.
950
00:58:56.880 --> 00:58:59.820
And so she just has to weirdly climb up this like,
951
00:59:00.420 --> 00:59:03.530
it's like two feet tall. It's like really a little
952
00:59:03.570 --> 00:59:05.110
too high to just jump down.
953
00:59:05.789 --> 00:59:07.940
She's going to like body roll across it to get
954
00:59:08.059 --> 00:59:11.480
up there. I need to do a rewatch of that
955
00:59:11.500 --> 00:59:14.039
when I get my head together. It's such a good show.
956
00:59:14.159 --> 00:59:22.500
It is. All right. So the consensus that we come
957
00:59:22.579 --> 00:59:28.110
to is that there is a wraith more than likely
958
00:59:28.699 --> 00:59:34.199
that feeds on people's brain juice. Mm-hmm. Don't like that.
959
00:59:34.900 --> 00:59:41.019
And they can be seen for what they are in reflections.
960
00:59:41.860 --> 00:59:47.139
So we post up Dean by the nurse station to
961
00:59:47.420 --> 00:59:54.829
watch everybody passing and see if anybody is a monstrous,
962
00:59:55.210 --> 00:59:56.449
horrible creature.
963
00:59:57.309 --> 00:59:57.530
Mm-hmm.
964
00:59:58.559 --> 01:00:03.599
And main doctor is. Yeah, we find out that they could...
965
01:00:04.059 --> 01:00:06.010
I'm sorry, I think you just said it passes human.
966
01:00:06.719 --> 01:00:07.010
Yes.
967
01:00:07.489 --> 01:00:07.719
Right?
968
01:00:07.760 --> 01:00:07.949
Yeah.
969
01:00:07.969 --> 01:00:14.309
Okay. And then, yeah, the doctor goes by and Dean
970
01:00:14.369 --> 01:00:17.349
sees his reflection as a wraith. And it's very clear
971
01:00:17.409 --> 01:00:18.369
and very convincing.
972
01:00:18.389 --> 01:00:19.050
Mm-hmm.
973
01:00:19.670 --> 01:00:21.869
I was convinced first time I watched it. I was like, oh, well,
974
01:00:21.889 --> 01:00:22.409
there he is.
975
01:00:22.510 --> 01:00:26.989
Yeah. Same, same. It didn't even occur to me that, like...
976
01:00:27.719 --> 01:00:34.639
this is an untrustworthy, like, why would it literally, why
977
01:00:34.679 --> 01:00:41.440
would it? So it's, and it's also just such a startling,
978
01:00:42.340 --> 01:00:46.219
you know what I'm saying? Like, ah, there's a movie
979
01:00:46.460 --> 01:00:48.800
that I haven't seen in a long time, but it
980
01:00:48.820 --> 01:00:51.480
had one of those jump scares that just stays with you.
981
01:00:52.219 --> 01:00:58.530
And it was the, Oh my God. I can't believe
982
01:00:58.610 --> 01:01:01.550
I'm forgetting about it now. The devil's advocate.
983
01:01:02.650 --> 01:01:05.869
Do you remember that one with Al Pacino?
984
01:01:05.929 --> 01:01:06.570
Yeah.
985
01:01:06.730 --> 01:01:08.090
Yeah.
986
01:01:08.110 --> 01:01:12.329
And Al Pacino is the devil. And the whole thing
987
01:01:12.409 --> 01:01:18.429
is like Keanu is being tempted to compromise himself on
988
01:01:18.630 --> 01:01:23.650
every level for great fame and riches and women and whatever.
989
01:01:24.590 --> 01:01:27.789
And he is married to, And part of the way
990
01:01:27.809 --> 01:01:32.010
that they're winning him over is they're lavishing gifts on
991
01:01:32.090 --> 01:01:36.349
his wife as well. And she goes out shopping with
992
01:01:36.510 --> 01:01:40.130
two of his demons who are beautiful women.
993
01:01:40.510 --> 01:01:42.730
Yeah, the wives of the other senior partners.
994
01:01:42.750 --> 01:01:50.010
Yeah, yeah. And they're all in this shop changing clothes.
995
01:01:50.940 --> 01:01:53.320
And one of them is like pulling a sweater up
996
01:01:53.420 --> 01:01:56.619
over her head. And for just a split second, as
997
01:01:56.679 --> 01:01:59.179
her face comes out from under her arms, it's like
998
01:01:59.199 --> 01:02:03.949
a demon's face. And it's just so sudden and so
999
01:02:04.210 --> 01:02:06.690
gone that for a second, you're almost just like, did I,
1000
01:02:07.750 --> 01:02:10.610
that was real, right? Which is so perfect because like
1001
01:02:10.650 --> 01:02:14.909
the whole thing turns out to be the wife seeing
1002
01:02:15.030 --> 01:02:20.559
shit and, sounding more and more unhinged until eventually she's
1003
01:02:20.599 --> 01:02:24.800
committed because it just seems like she's losing it. And
1004
01:02:25.179 --> 01:02:28.239
that gets her very tidily out of the way so
1005
01:02:28.280 --> 01:02:34.269
that we can have fun with hot women. Um, but anyway,
1006
01:02:34.590 --> 01:02:39.530
that kind of jump scare, the supernatural just be doing
1007
01:02:39.590 --> 01:02:40.170
all the time.
1008
01:02:40.269 --> 01:02:44.389
And I just think that's mean. I, you know how
1009
01:02:44.409 --> 01:02:48.199
I feel about jump scares. So, uh, You know, they're
1010
01:02:48.239 --> 01:02:49.130
not my favorite thing.
1011
01:02:49.449 --> 01:02:52.730
I just feel like I am here for a good time.
1012
01:02:53.769 --> 01:02:56.090
But why did you feel like you had to do that?
1013
01:02:56.769 --> 01:03:00.150
That's not in the spirit of the thing.
1014
01:03:00.170 --> 01:03:02.309
That's not a good time.
1015
01:03:02.329 --> 01:03:08.800
Yeah. Come on. But, uh, but yeah, so we're thinking
1016
01:03:08.820 --> 01:03:14.079
that it's him. I'm honestly a little surprised because it
1017
01:03:14.119 --> 01:03:16.239
just seems so obvious to make it him.
1018
01:03:16.260 --> 01:03:16.719
Yeah.
1019
01:03:17.070 --> 01:03:18.170
But I was like, okay.
1020
01:03:18.679 --> 01:03:23.880
Before we see him, Dean's doctor comes over and leans
1021
01:03:23.960 --> 01:03:26.260
up against with him and they have another little conversation
1022
01:03:26.320 --> 01:03:29.619
about what is he doing? And he's being very forthright.
1023
01:03:29.980 --> 01:03:33.679
I'm hunting, looking for monsters and it could be anyone.
1024
01:03:33.699 --> 01:03:35.119
And she's like, it could be me. And he looks
1025
01:03:35.179 --> 01:03:37.639
at the mirror and he's like, no, you're clean. And
1026
01:03:37.659 --> 01:03:40.780
then she asked him, why does it have to be you?
1027
01:03:44.650 --> 01:03:46.869
And he's just like, who else is it going to be?
1028
01:03:48.480 --> 01:03:52.659
And she starts talking about it's, you know, you're responsible
1029
01:03:52.739 --> 01:03:56.619
for saving, you know, six billion people on the planet
1030
01:03:56.659 --> 01:03:59.969
or whatever. That seems like a lot for one person.
1031
01:03:59.989 --> 01:04:03.889
And he's, again, still being very flippant. He says, like,
1032
01:04:03.929 --> 01:04:05.230
you know, it has to be me because I can't
1033
01:04:05.269 --> 01:04:08.510
find anybody else dumb enough. And then he says, oh,
1034
01:04:08.530 --> 01:04:12.389
but it's my job. I have to save people's asses.
1035
01:04:13.210 --> 01:04:15.679
And she says, is there a quota? How many people
1036
01:04:15.699 --> 01:04:19.320
do you have to save? And he says all of them. Yeah.
1037
01:04:20.079 --> 01:04:22.639
You think you have to save all of them? And
1038
01:04:22.679 --> 01:04:27.630
he says, yeah. And she goes, well, how? And he
1039
01:04:27.730 --> 01:04:32.030
doesn't like answer right away. Yeah. And then he gets
1040
01:04:32.090 --> 01:04:35.300
very serious and he's like, it's the end of the world.
1041
01:04:35.590 --> 01:04:38.920
It's the fucking apocalypse. And if I don't stop it
1042
01:04:38.980 --> 01:04:43.440
and save everybody, then nobody will and everybody will die.
1043
01:04:43.460 --> 01:04:44.099
Yeah.
1044
01:04:45.340 --> 01:04:45.599
Yeah.
1045
01:04:46.079 --> 01:04:46.360
Yeah.
1046
01:04:47.780 --> 01:04:53.340
Yeah. Yeah. And she tells him, that's horrible. And he's like, yeah,
1047
01:04:53.360 --> 01:04:59.480
I know. And she says, not the apocalypse part. Like,
1048
01:04:59.599 --> 01:05:03.579
apocalypse or no apocalypse, it's still horrible that you feel
1049
01:05:03.619 --> 01:05:06.019
like you're responsible for six billion people.
1050
01:05:06.219 --> 01:05:06.619
Mm-hmm.
1051
01:05:07.800 --> 01:05:08.090
Yeah.
1052
01:05:08.800 --> 01:05:12.530
Yeah, that's the one. And eventually, just how do you
1053
01:05:12.610 --> 01:05:16.269
get out of bed in the morning? Which he's just like, oh, yeah,
1054
01:05:16.289 --> 01:05:18.449
that's a really good question, actually. Mm-hmm.
1055
01:05:18.570 --> 01:05:18.809
Mm-hmm.
1056
01:05:19.769 --> 01:05:30.559
Um, but it's interesting how things like progress because this,
1057
01:05:31.139 --> 01:05:32.920
how do you get out of bed in the morning?
1058
01:05:35.119 --> 01:05:41.489
It's we're, we're approaching the point. And as we get
1059
01:05:41.550 --> 01:05:46.170
further and further into this stay, it becomes more and
1060
01:05:46.230 --> 01:05:55.320
more clear that like, they're, they're just, she is taking
1061
01:05:55.380 --> 01:05:59.880
him so seriously with everything that he is saying in
1062
01:05:59.920 --> 01:06:04.579
a way that I was like, unsure how to interpret, right.
1063
01:06:04.820 --> 01:06:10.610
Where it's sort of could be, well, we're just going
1064
01:06:10.630 --> 01:06:13.570
to like follow this train of thought and see what
1065
01:06:13.650 --> 01:06:18.719
exactly is behind it. Because this may not be real, but,
1066
01:06:19.480 --> 01:06:23.619
but it's real enough to you that it feels like
1067
01:06:23.679 --> 01:06:27.980
it means something significant that we should look at. But
1068
01:06:30.300 --> 01:06:33.639
there doesn't seem to be any like further, like it's
1069
01:06:33.699 --> 01:06:42.429
just these, these leading moments and there's just seeing like,
1070
01:06:42.789 --> 01:06:44.730
now let's talk about your father. And then we cut away,
1071
01:06:46.369 --> 01:06:50.769
just felt very much like, Well, it seemed like we
1072
01:06:50.809 --> 01:06:53.769
were getting to the heart of things there, but we
1073
01:06:53.809 --> 01:06:56.650
don't even get to see that part. So how much
1074
01:06:56.690 --> 01:07:01.409
is that actually happening? And there's just supposed to be
1075
01:07:01.530 --> 01:07:07.409
you meet a person where they're at with this delusion,
1076
01:07:07.530 --> 01:07:10.050
and then you like walk with them through, well, this
1077
01:07:10.110 --> 01:07:12.889
is what could be going on with you, you know,
1078
01:07:12.969 --> 01:07:16.570
what you're thinking. And because we never really go there,
1079
01:07:16.800 --> 01:07:19.550
it wasn't like I was thinking she isn't real. I
1080
01:07:19.800 --> 01:07:22.840
was never in a million years guessing that she's not there.
1081
01:07:23.820 --> 01:07:28.940
But it did seem strange that we only have her
1082
01:07:29.079 --> 01:07:32.480
accepting what Dean is saying and never her really trying
1083
01:07:32.519 --> 01:07:33.780
to challenge.
1084
01:07:33.360 --> 01:07:34.239
It at all.
1085
01:07:34.340 --> 01:07:37.099
She asks questions, but that's not really the same thing,
1086
01:07:37.780 --> 01:07:40.570
you know? And then, and the one time we start to,
1087
01:07:40.750 --> 01:07:43.809
we get like a cutaway. So I was really like,
1088
01:07:43.989 --> 01:07:46.420
I don't know what to think about this lady. I,
1089
01:07:47.329 --> 01:07:49.289
there was a little bit of a suspicion, like, is
1090
01:07:49.369 --> 01:07:51.710
she the one, but I didn't even really think that
1091
01:07:51.809 --> 01:07:55.210
it was just something smells off, you know?
1092
01:07:55.230 --> 01:07:59.409
I love that when she starts asking, when she starts
1093
01:07:59.530 --> 01:08:03.090
poking or really he's poking, right. But when she starts
1094
01:08:03.170 --> 01:08:06.570
poking about, that's a lot of responsibility, how are you
1095
01:08:06.630 --> 01:08:11.550
carrying it? You know, that's the moment he sees air quotes,
1096
01:08:11.869 --> 01:08:12.289
the wraith.
1097
01:08:12.710 --> 01:08:13.010
Yeah.
1098
01:08:13.570 --> 01:08:16.270
You know, it, it, because something else pops up that
1099
01:08:16.329 --> 01:08:18.720
enables him to no longer have to continue on this
1100
01:08:18.770 --> 01:08:21.520
train of thought or continue this conversation.
1101
01:08:21.739 --> 01:08:22.060
Yeah.
1102
01:08:22.479 --> 01:08:25.140
Like, like so many of us will do, you know,
1103
01:08:25.180 --> 01:08:26.779
you get to a point and then you're just like,
1104
01:08:26.819 --> 01:08:31.329
no done. Look at that shiny, shiny bobble over there.
1105
01:08:31.409 --> 01:08:39.020
Right. Yeah. I just, I, Finding out that she's not real, though,
1106
01:08:40.479 --> 01:08:42.859
I really felt like a dum-dum. I should have noticed.
1107
01:08:43.020 --> 01:08:46.199
This is a classic trope. Right?
1108
01:08:47.119 --> 01:08:47.909
It's in everything.
1109
01:08:47.930 --> 01:08:49.020
It really is.
1110
01:08:49.029 --> 01:08:51.270
We're in a mental hospital. There's a person that you're
1111
01:08:51.310 --> 01:08:54.649
talking to. You never talk to them when other people
1112
01:08:54.710 --> 01:08:57.210
are around. Or if you do, they're not directly involved
1113
01:08:57.229 --> 01:09:01.300
in the conversation. There's just so. this is all over
1114
01:09:01.319 --> 01:09:03.880
the place. And I never saw it coming. And I
1115
01:09:03.920 --> 01:09:11.109
felt very, very silly. I just, it's, duh, duh.
1116
01:09:11.289 --> 01:09:13.029
That's all I can say.
1117
01:09:13.869 --> 01:09:15.949
And there's like an orderly at one point when he's
1118
01:09:15.989 --> 01:09:19.369
talking to her later. that is in the background, but
1119
01:09:19.489 --> 01:09:21.430
still in focus in such a way that I was like,
1120
01:09:21.470 --> 01:09:23.770
is he going to do something? Like I thought the
1121
01:09:23.850 --> 01:09:26.770
orderly was going to wind up being a threat or
1122
01:09:27.489 --> 01:09:30.800
I don't know what. And all it is, is just
1123
01:09:30.840 --> 01:09:34.319
that he's like, yeah, he's just observing Dean and having
1124
01:09:34.380 --> 01:09:36.920
a conversation with somebody that isn't there. Yeah.
1125
01:09:36.960 --> 01:09:40.300
Which is like a Tuesday for the orderly, you know?
1126
01:09:40.479 --> 01:09:42.680
So it's not anything to get too worked up about.
1127
01:09:43.229 --> 01:09:45.409
He just is like noticing that Dean is getting a
1128
01:09:45.409 --> 01:09:47.909
little agitated and it's just like, you know, simmer down, buddy.
1129
01:09:48.149 --> 01:09:48.449
Right.
1130
01:09:48.590 --> 01:09:50.609
But like the fact that Dean is having a conversation
1131
01:09:50.649 --> 01:09:53.670
with someone who's not there is not, not bothering this
1132
01:09:53.729 --> 01:09:54.430
guy at all.
1133
01:09:54.670 --> 01:09:57.909
No, bro has seen it all and he is not impressed.
1134
01:10:00.579 --> 01:10:00.979
So I'm.
1135
01:10:03.319 --> 01:10:03.539
Sorry.
1136
01:10:03.579 --> 01:10:06.579
I'm just trying to get to the, the, we have
1137
01:10:06.619 --> 01:10:09.520
the attack finally on the main doctor. Yeah.
1138
01:10:09.560 --> 01:10:16.010
They've got the, uh, the silver plated, envelope openers or
1139
01:10:16.029 --> 01:10:20.840
whatever they got. Wendy comes up, kisses Sam because she
1140
01:10:20.899 --> 01:10:27.260
chooses him now because he's larger. And this is a
1141
01:10:27.319 --> 01:10:30.890
nice little A little red herring, I guess, for later on.
1142
01:10:30.890 --> 01:10:31.729
Yeah, definitely.
1143
01:10:31.750 --> 01:10:34.270
We're trying to figure out, like, how things are getting transmitted.
1144
01:10:34.489 --> 01:10:37.109
You know, she's like, oh, the girl who kisses everybody,
1145
01:10:37.170 --> 01:10:38.869
it's got to be her. Mm-hmm. Because that's what I
1146
01:10:38.909 --> 01:10:40.409
thought when I first saw this. I was like, of
1147
01:10:40.439 --> 01:10:41.060
course it's her.
1148
01:10:41.239 --> 01:10:44.399
Yeah, I can't believe that it never occurred to me. Like,
1149
01:10:44.439 --> 01:10:46.880
I just, I was just like, yeah, well, you know,
1150
01:10:46.960 --> 01:10:47.819
it's going to be like that.
1151
01:10:50.560 --> 01:10:58.369
Is it? Yeah. What? When they're in the hallway planning
1152
01:10:58.409 --> 01:11:00.869
the attack on Dr. Fuller, this is when they try
1153
01:11:00.890 --> 01:11:03.710
to get Martin. They try to recruit Martin into the plan.
1154
01:11:04.760 --> 01:11:07.340
And he's just like, you know, no, I can't. I
1155
01:11:07.819 --> 01:11:12.539
can't do it. I'm not that guy anymore. And we
1156
01:11:12.579 --> 01:11:14.479
know what happened in Albuquerque. No, you don't.
1157
01:11:15.060 --> 01:11:15.220
No.
1158
01:11:15.479 --> 01:11:17.260
You don't know what happened. Why would you say that?
1159
01:11:18.199 --> 01:11:20.590
And Martin says, I used to be just like you two.
1160
01:11:21.130 --> 01:11:24.470
I think I was, I thought I was invincible. And then, well,
1161
01:11:24.529 --> 01:11:28.310
I found out I'm not, which is like a heavy sentence.
1162
01:11:28.449 --> 01:11:30.010
Yeah.
1163
01:11:30.949 --> 01:11:33.159
I thought I was invincible. Then I found that I'm not.
1164
01:11:33.800 --> 01:11:36.439
And they're still like, you're a hunter. No, you're not.
1165
01:11:36.460 --> 01:11:39.060
You know, I'd love to help you, but I just
1166
01:11:39.119 --> 01:11:41.619
can't do it, guys. I'm so sorry. I can't. And
1167
01:11:41.680 --> 01:11:43.779
he walks away and just leaves them in the hallway
1168
01:11:44.010 --> 01:11:47.329
looking kind of like, I don't know what these expressions
1169
01:11:47.409 --> 01:11:49.630
on their faces actually as they're watching him walk away.
1170
01:11:50.699 --> 01:11:53.020
I'm trying to find the spot here where he's like
1171
01:11:53.149 --> 01:11:59.170
arguing with them. Uh, that Sam looks like he feels
1172
01:11:59.250 --> 01:12:02.869
sorry for him. And Dean looks frustrated is what I
1173
01:12:02.909 --> 01:12:05.909
would say. They were both reacting to this very differently.
1174
01:12:06.590 --> 01:12:11.710
Dean looks annoyed. Yeah. And also I can't help, but
1175
01:12:11.770 --> 01:12:14.930
wonder if there's a little, is that going to be me?
1176
01:12:16.189 --> 01:12:18.970
Is this going to be me? Some like, I think
1177
01:12:19.010 --> 01:12:21.550
there's just annoyance with the fact that like, oh, you
1178
01:12:21.590 --> 01:12:25.350
can't snap out of it. So is that what happens
1179
01:12:25.449 --> 01:12:27.510
that you just can't escape anymore?
1180
01:12:27.670 --> 01:12:30.930
You know, I, I think it's that. And also there
1181
01:12:30.970 --> 01:12:34.569
might be a bit of resentment because Dean has just
1182
01:12:34.640 --> 01:12:38.989
expressed that he can't turn his back on his obligations, right?
1183
01:12:39.239 --> 01:12:42.260
He's got to do this thing. And then he watches
1184
01:12:42.340 --> 01:12:45.180
this other hunter literally turn his back and say, no,
1185
01:12:45.260 --> 01:12:47.659
I can't do it. It can't be me and walk away.
1186
01:12:48.560 --> 01:12:52.060
And Dean is like, how fucking dare you?
1187
01:12:52.300 --> 01:12:53.359
Yeah, I can see that.
1188
01:12:53.979 --> 01:12:58.689
And also maybe low-key jealous. Like, you know, what is,
1189
01:12:58.840 --> 01:13:02.920
you know, like you walk away, you know, that's an option.
1190
01:13:02.979 --> 01:13:04.520
I didn't realize that was an option. I can just
1191
01:13:04.619 --> 01:13:07.279
say no. No one ever gave me an option to
1192
01:13:07.319 --> 01:13:10.159
say no before. I was, it was, you know, drilled
1193
01:13:10.279 --> 01:13:13.109
in me that this was a duty that you can't
1194
01:13:13.130 --> 01:13:16.369
step away from. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and watching this man
1195
01:13:16.409 --> 01:13:18.710
be like, yeah, no, I gave everything I had and
1196
01:13:18.729 --> 01:13:21.319
I don't have anything left to give, which I got
1197
01:13:21.340 --> 01:13:23.680
to imagine is how Dean is sort of feeling. Like
1198
01:13:23.720 --> 01:13:26.699
I've already given everything I've got. I'm running on fumes here.
1199
01:13:26.720 --> 01:13:27.220
Yeah.
1200
01:13:28.060 --> 01:13:31.960
And, uh, like you're walking away the fuck. That's, that's
1201
01:13:31.979 --> 01:13:34.000
not how this works. Who do you think you are?
1202
01:13:34.020 --> 01:13:35.149
You know?
1203
01:13:35.510 --> 01:13:42.050
Yeah. Hmm. Yeah, I could see that. I wonder if
1204
01:13:42.170 --> 01:13:45.430
Sam is thinking about himself at all. It is coming
1205
01:13:45.489 --> 01:13:50.250
across as purely like, oh, the poor guy. But I'm
1206
01:13:50.289 --> 01:13:53.859
wondering if there's more in there than that, you know?
1207
01:13:53.880 --> 01:13:55.140
I don't know.
1208
01:13:57.220 --> 01:14:00.920
Hmm. The thing that they do with Sam this episode,
1209
01:14:00.939 --> 01:14:05.260
because Sam is a fucking monster. And I mean that
1210
01:14:05.319 --> 01:14:07.760
in like, he's a beast. beast. And he's fucking these
1211
01:14:07.800 --> 01:14:09.140
guys up in this hallway.
1212
01:14:09.539 --> 01:14:12.439
The way that he tosses them, it is.
1213
01:14:13.760 --> 01:14:17.859
Yeah. Yeah. Like, I don't... We don't... I mean, we've
1214
01:14:17.880 --> 01:14:20.369
seen Sam, you know, do his thing, but I feel
1215
01:14:20.390 --> 01:14:22.090
like we've never seen him. And plus, these are just
1216
01:14:22.130 --> 01:14:24.289
humans that he's going after, so that adds a different
1217
01:14:24.369 --> 01:14:26.590
element to it, because they're not as strong, and it's
1218
01:14:26.670 --> 01:14:30.369
not monster strength and demon strength. These are just dudes.
1219
01:14:31.229 --> 01:14:34.920
And he is tossing them around like they are nothing. Mm-hmm.
1220
01:14:35.810 --> 01:14:40.390
And there's all this talk in the show about the
1221
01:14:40.430 --> 01:14:42.109
monster that's in Sam, right?
1222
01:14:42.310 --> 01:14:42.850
Yeah.
1223
01:14:42.899 --> 01:14:45.260
What's in him? What's going to do it? What's going
1224
01:14:45.279 --> 01:14:48.960
to dark side and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And
1225
01:14:50.939 --> 01:14:53.960
he is low key, like a monster here. And it's
1226
01:14:54.020 --> 01:14:57.020
just him. It's not demon blood. It's, you know, granted
1227
01:14:57.039 --> 01:14:59.199
he's got a little bit of toxin in him, but
1228
01:14:59.220 --> 01:15:00.760
that's not really what's going on either.
1229
01:15:01.100 --> 01:15:02.079
Yeah.
1230
01:15:02.420 --> 01:15:04.359
It's, And he admits to that at the end of
1231
01:15:04.380 --> 01:15:08.460
the episode. Like that's, that's just what he's riding with,
1232
01:15:09.000 --> 01:15:10.979
which is insane. Yeah.
1233
01:15:13.039 --> 01:15:17.640
Yeah. This, uh, I have all of this rage and
1234
01:15:17.720 --> 01:15:23.779
I don't even know why or what to do with it. Relatable. Yeah.
1235
01:15:25.430 --> 01:15:27.250
And I feel like, dude, it's not even that much
1236
01:15:27.270 --> 01:15:30.319
of a mystery why you have so much race. Yeah. Rage. Like,
1237
01:15:30.500 --> 01:15:32.779
your mom died when you were a kid. Everybody kind
1238
01:15:32.819 --> 01:15:35.880
of made it your fault. You're like the reason she died.
1239
01:15:36.340 --> 01:15:41.430
You've been manipulated and lied to. You've been used to
1240
01:15:41.510 --> 01:15:44.850
other people's nefariousness. You've got a laundry list.
1241
01:15:45.869 --> 01:15:50.979
Agreed. The mystery is why you're mystified, actually.
1242
01:15:54.399 --> 01:15:56.319
I mean, why are you angry? You had John Winchester
1243
01:15:56.340 --> 01:15:57.979
as a father. I feel like that could just be
1244
01:15:58.000 --> 01:15:59.319
a complete sentence right there.
1245
01:16:00.359 --> 01:16:12.050
Ouch. Yeah, he's difficult. So this winds up. Thank God.
1246
01:16:12.060 --> 01:16:19.250
He's kind of. What's his face? Martin like has his
1247
01:16:19.329 --> 01:16:20.390
back unexpectedly.
1248
01:16:20.819 --> 01:16:22.000
Yeah, Martin stops him.
1249
01:16:22.020 --> 01:16:28.449
Because Dean is about to kill the doctor. Oh, my God. Why?
1250
01:16:28.470 --> 01:16:37.739
I don't know. Christ, Natasha. Sam is about to kill
1251
01:16:37.760 --> 01:16:41.399
the doctor and Martin comes up and is like, no,
1252
01:16:42.020 --> 01:16:47.439
it's not him. He's not. And finally... Sam resurfaces enough
1253
01:16:47.479 --> 01:16:50.000
to realize that like, there's a reaction that should be
1254
01:16:50.079 --> 01:16:54.310
happening when he's touched by this silver. That's not happening.
1255
01:16:55.750 --> 01:16:59.989
And is shaken. You can see by the fact that
1256
01:17:00.029 --> 01:17:03.090
he very nearly murdered this dude.
1257
01:17:03.510 --> 01:17:03.810
Yeah.
1258
01:17:03.970 --> 01:17:06.989
It was a hair's breadth away. Yeah.
1259
01:17:07.270 --> 01:17:09.069
It was about to happen. Yeah. It was about to,
1260
01:17:09.130 --> 01:17:13.060
it was about to go down. Um, And it's unfortunate
1261
01:17:13.100 --> 01:17:16.689
because he's just working on the information Dean gave him.
1262
01:17:16.729 --> 01:17:17.130
You know?
1263
01:17:19.909 --> 01:17:21.590
So it's not even like his fault.
1264
01:17:23.369 --> 01:17:26.310
I mean, it is because he gets so in it
1265
01:17:26.350 --> 01:17:27.750
that he's not even seeing.
1266
01:17:28.529 --> 01:17:29.449
Yeah.
1267
01:17:29.649 --> 01:17:32.109
This is evidence in front of him that he is
1268
01:17:32.170 --> 01:17:39.590
ignoring that if he weren't in this headspace where he's
1269
01:17:39.930 --> 01:17:43.750
probably just being... it's the start of him being affected
1270
01:17:43.949 --> 01:17:49.569
by the toxin, I would guess. He probably would have
1271
01:17:49.850 --> 01:17:54.430
noticed that this, the reaction I'm expecting isn't happening, but
1272
01:17:54.529 --> 01:17:58.430
it's just not clicking for him because he is caught
1273
01:17:58.689 --> 01:18:02.449
up in this rampage.
1274
01:18:04.069 --> 01:18:09.020
Yeah. It's a, Rampage is an actual perfect definition of
1275
01:18:09.079 --> 01:18:15.300
what's happening in this hallway. And he is, like, he's
1276
01:18:15.420 --> 01:18:16.279
out of his mind.
1277
01:18:16.359 --> 01:18:17.579
Yeah.
1278
01:18:18.350 --> 01:18:21.850
But he's not, like, hallucinating or anything like that. But
1279
01:18:21.930 --> 01:18:24.970
he is not seeing clearly. Yeah.
1280
01:18:25.189 --> 01:18:28.810
Yeah. Yeah. It sucks.
1281
01:18:29.729 --> 01:18:32.880
Yeah. And he does look crazy. There's, like, a shot
1282
01:18:32.909 --> 01:18:34.920
of his face when he's, like, kind of coming out
1283
01:18:34.939 --> 01:18:37.500
of what he has done. But before... Before, like, it's
1284
01:18:37.539 --> 01:18:39.819
him being like, oh my god, what have I done?
1285
01:18:39.819 --> 01:18:43.640
It's just like a freeze of just, like, him in
1286
01:18:43.640 --> 01:18:44.640
in the throes of it.
1287
01:18:44.659 --> 01:18:45.159
Yeah.
1288
01:18:45.439 --> 01:18:51.479
And he looks like, like unhinged. And then the next
1289
01:18:51.500 --> 01:18:58.409
scene is him medicated. Oh, all fucked up. I am.
1290
01:18:58.430 --> 01:19:03.050
He says, I am awesome. Yeah.
1291
01:19:03.090 --> 01:19:05.069
It takes a minute to get the word awesome out.
1292
01:19:05.140 --> 01:19:13.109
And he finally does. And then I am spectacular. Which
1293
01:19:13.630 --> 01:19:15.090
is pretty good.
1294
01:19:15.989 --> 01:19:18.250
Tina's like, they gave you something? And Sam says, they
1295
01:19:18.289 --> 01:19:20.449
gave me everything.
1296
01:19:22.520 --> 01:19:23.399
Good for you, buddy.
1297
01:19:26.960 --> 01:19:29.420
But they have a moment here. He like brings Dean
1298
01:19:29.460 --> 01:19:35.149
close to him. And he tells them, you know, the
1299
01:19:35.189 --> 01:19:39.869
doctor wasn't a wraith. And they're trying to figure out, like, well,
1300
01:19:40.090 --> 01:19:42.229
it doesn't make sense because I saw it in the mirror.
1301
01:19:42.550 --> 01:19:42.829
Yeah.
1302
01:19:43.069 --> 01:19:47.310
And then Sam is like, maybe you are going crazy.
1303
01:19:47.909 --> 01:19:50.310
I mean, you've been crazy for a long time or
1304
01:19:50.329 --> 01:19:52.109
at least half crazy.
1305
01:19:52.140 --> 01:19:54.619
The way that he just plants this in his head
1306
01:19:54.680 --> 01:19:59.979
of just like, I don't know, maybe you're crazy. And
1307
01:20:00.319 --> 01:20:04.739
as things go on, you just start to be like, oh, oh, no. Oh,
1308
01:20:05.000 --> 01:20:06.680
is that? Oh, no.
1309
01:20:07.680 --> 01:20:10.680
He's like, yeah, since you got back from hell, maybe
1310
01:20:10.739 --> 01:20:16.229
even before you went to hell, maybe you finally cracked.
1311
01:20:17.130 --> 01:20:21.670
It's not the supportive pep talk you want in this moment.
1312
01:20:21.689 --> 01:20:27.270
But it may be what Dean deserves. He has tried
1313
01:20:27.350 --> 01:20:30.750
to be the supportive brother and reach out, and you
1314
01:20:30.789 --> 01:20:37.979
have been uninterested. so maybe this is what you get.
1315
01:20:40.039 --> 01:20:43.659
You know oh then he grabs him and says it's
1316
01:20:43.739 --> 01:20:48.079
okay hey look at me it's okay because you're my
1317
01:20:48.199 --> 01:20:52.619
brother and i still love you i love you and
1318
01:20:52.699 --> 01:20:54.319
he like cheers up.
1319
01:20:55.979 --> 01:20:57.800
Bless his nose.
1320
01:20:58.430 --> 01:21:00.890
He boops these notes.
1321
01:21:00.909 --> 01:21:04.090
This is so weird because the last thing that I
1322
01:21:04.310 --> 01:21:11.909
finished was Dungeon Crawler Carl where the very last word
1323
01:21:12.029 --> 01:21:17.989
of the book is boop. And then to have him
1324
01:21:18.109 --> 01:21:20.569
do that here as well, I was just sort of like,
1325
01:21:20.630 --> 01:21:23.729
what is happening? Why are we all booping left and right?
1326
01:21:24.409 --> 01:21:25.140
What's going on?
1327
01:21:28.609 --> 01:21:29.609
Some days you got to boop.
1328
01:21:30.229 --> 01:21:31.989
Some days you just need to boop.
1329
01:21:32.310 --> 01:21:34.029
There's just nothing else to be done about it. It
1330
01:21:34.050 --> 01:21:34.710
can't be helped.
1331
01:21:35.970 --> 01:21:39.210
I don't like the way that came out. I take
1332
01:21:39.270 --> 01:21:45.210
it back. I regret it deeply. This does not represent
1333
01:21:45.569 --> 01:21:46.989
who I am as a person.
1334
01:21:48.130 --> 01:21:50.609
Your mom in the chat says that Sam is all
1335
01:21:50.630 --> 01:21:51.529
of us in 2026 America. Oh, God.
1336
01:21:58.890 --> 01:22:01.310
That's so depressing.
1337
01:22:01.850 --> 01:22:02.909
It really is.
1338
01:22:04.380 --> 01:22:08.399
Hate it. So Sam leaves.
1339
01:22:08.520 --> 01:22:11.119
I'm sorry, Dean, now I'm doing it. Dean leaves Sam
1340
01:22:11.140 --> 01:22:14.819
to sort of recover and he's on a mission to
1341
01:22:14.859 --> 01:22:18.560
find the Wraith and his lady doctor, Dr. Cartwright, shows
1342
01:22:18.680 --> 01:22:22.649
up again. And it's just like, you missed our session today.
1343
01:22:22.750 --> 01:22:27.659
He's like, I'm fucking busy. You know, I'm busy. I
1344
01:22:27.699 --> 01:22:29.659
got other things to do. I don't have time for this.
1345
01:22:29.760 --> 01:22:33.659
And this is when she starts talking about how you
1346
01:22:33.699 --> 01:22:37.539
can't save everybody, all this guilt you're carrying. And then
1347
01:22:37.560 --> 01:22:38.600
she gets nasty.
1348
01:22:39.279 --> 01:22:41.319
She just turns on him.
1349
01:22:41.859 --> 01:22:42.039
Yep.
1350
01:22:42.279 --> 01:22:44.920
And I'm like beginning to suspect something weird is up,
1351
01:22:45.039 --> 01:22:50.079
but it's such an abrupt. Oh, and also you're a
1352
01:22:50.100 --> 01:22:52.560
piece of shit who smells like garbage and your face
1353
01:22:52.619 --> 01:22:58.449
is stupid. And I'm just like, what, what, what just happened? Yeah,
1354
01:22:58.550 --> 01:23:00.829
she is vicious.
1355
01:23:01.569 --> 01:23:05.710
Yeah. Yeah, it's bad. It's bad. And he starts raising
1356
01:23:05.750 --> 01:23:09.250
his voice and she says, he says, I'm fine. I'm fine.
1357
01:23:09.329 --> 01:23:12.729
She goes, you don't, even you don't believe that. And
1358
01:23:12.850 --> 01:23:16.020
all this guilt's killing you. You can't save everybody. And
1359
01:23:16.039 --> 01:23:20.939
then she starts talking about Ellen and Joe and how
1360
01:23:20.960 --> 01:23:26.390
he can't save anybody. And It's just, you shot Lucifer,
1361
01:23:26.430 --> 01:23:28.590
but you couldn't gank him, which is now she's talking
1362
01:23:28.649 --> 01:23:30.170
in his... She says gank.
1363
01:23:30.609 --> 01:23:33.170
I love that. You couldn't gank him.
1364
01:23:33.189 --> 01:23:39.810
What? All you do is fail. And she quotes the
1365
01:23:39.869 --> 01:23:42.640
GED and give him hell attitude that he said a
1366
01:23:43.399 --> 01:23:49.039
while ago in another earlier episode. And he's getting more
1367
01:23:49.060 --> 01:23:51.739
and more agitated, asking her how does she know all this?
1368
01:23:51.819 --> 01:23:55.159
Who is she? And the orderly is like, settle down.
1369
01:23:55.180 --> 01:24:01.420
I do love the orderly. It's just like, all right,
1370
01:24:01.479 --> 01:24:03.600
I see things are beginning to escalate over here. I
1371
01:24:03.640 --> 01:24:07.359
don't know what this argument is he's imagining, but we
1372
01:24:07.399 --> 01:24:09.460
certainly can't have all that. Yeah.
1373
01:24:09.659 --> 01:24:12.739
Yeah. And Tina's like, who is she? Dude is like,
1374
01:24:12.810 --> 01:24:18.529
come on, bro. And Tina's like, she's standing right there.
1375
01:24:18.569 --> 01:24:21.069
And the guy's like, dude, nobody is there. And then
1376
01:24:21.170 --> 01:24:24.949
she says to him, you know, I'm not here. You're
1377
01:24:24.970 --> 01:24:27.710
going crazy. And then he can't see her anymore.
1378
01:24:27.729 --> 01:24:28.390
Yeah.
1379
01:24:29.090 --> 01:24:32.390
Meanwhile, the orderly's just standing there like, are we done here?
1380
01:24:33.729 --> 01:24:35.789
Is this little, is this done?
1381
01:24:35.890 --> 01:24:40.399
Is this little weird episode that you're having finally coming
1382
01:24:40.479 --> 01:24:43.680
to a close? Can we move on with our fucking days? Right.
1383
01:24:43.779 --> 01:24:46.100
I've got other things to do. Other people to rough
1384
01:24:46.260 --> 01:24:52.319
up and restrain. And as Dean is leaving, this is
1385
01:24:52.380 --> 01:24:55.420
when every mirror he looks in is reflecting a wraith
1386
01:24:55.460 --> 01:24:57.930
back to him. Everybody that he sees is a wraith.
1387
01:24:58.750 --> 01:25:02.609
And he ends up like cowering in a corner. Yeah.
1388
01:25:02.710 --> 01:25:09.989
Sinking down to his knees, just completely like overwhelmed and terrified. Yeah.
1389
01:25:10.229 --> 01:25:10.590
Hate it.
1390
01:25:10.569 --> 01:25:12.319
It's not great.
1391
01:25:12.739 --> 01:25:16.199
I don't like seeing Dean curled up in the fetal position.
1392
01:25:16.279 --> 01:25:16.979
Call me crazy.
1393
01:25:17.630 --> 01:25:19.350
Yeah, it's not encouraging.
1394
01:25:19.409 --> 01:25:22.590
Yeah, this is not something that I'm excited to see.
1395
01:25:23.369 --> 01:25:28.720
And I want him to begin to put it together
1396
01:25:28.760 --> 01:25:34.380
a lot sooner than he does. This isn't right. But understandably,
1397
01:25:35.590 --> 01:25:38.289
when he's losing it, he's just like, well, yes, I'm
1398
01:25:38.329 --> 01:25:42.029
losing it because I am a loser. But when Sam
1399
01:25:42.090 --> 01:25:47.840
starts losing it is when he's like, okay, what? Nope. No, no, something's.
1400
01:25:48.159 --> 01:25:48.859
What is this?
1401
01:25:50.720 --> 01:25:53.239
Which is very telling, actually.
1402
01:25:53.670 --> 01:25:56.170
It really is. It says a lot, right? Yeah, it
1403
01:25:56.229 --> 01:26:02.689
really does. So we go back to Sam, who's in
1404
01:26:02.850 --> 01:26:06.760
isolation from his attack. And he is asked to see Dr.
1405
01:26:06.800 --> 01:26:09.939
Fuller and Dr. Fuller comes and Sam does this whole
1406
01:26:09.979 --> 01:26:13.069
apology thing. You know, I thought you were a monster.
1407
01:26:13.130 --> 01:26:15.829
I was out of my head. I realize now that
1408
01:26:15.869 --> 01:26:18.069
I was deluded, but I've had a moment of clarity.
1409
01:26:18.470 --> 01:26:21.369
He apologizes for almost killing this man. This man, for
1410
01:26:21.409 --> 01:26:27.310
some reason, accepts that apology. I would have remained unconvinced.
1411
01:26:28.500 --> 01:26:32.979
I mean, he kind of is. He says, I'm really
1412
01:26:33.020 --> 01:26:37.920
glad to hear that, but I saw what I saw,
1413
01:26:37.939 --> 01:26:43.949
and you being... deluded that I'm a monster? Is it
1414
01:26:44.010 --> 01:26:45.829
the least of your problems?
1415
01:26:46.069 --> 01:26:53.409
Exactly. He acknowledges that you may have had a moment
1416
01:26:53.449 --> 01:26:56.640
of clarity about your delusion, but there's a much bigger
1417
01:26:56.680 --> 01:27:02.079
thing going on that's scary. He says you look like
1418
01:27:02.119 --> 01:27:03.520
a man that was possessed.
1419
01:27:06.319 --> 01:27:08.100
Which would be ridiculous.
1420
01:27:08.529 --> 01:27:12.020
What? Possession? Get out of here.
1421
01:27:12.029 --> 01:27:13.920
I don't even know what you mean.
1422
01:27:15.220 --> 01:27:22.000
Yeah. And I wanted... I mean, I guess it doesn't...
1423
01:27:22.020 --> 01:27:25.260
I felt like I wanted that to hit Sam a
1424
01:27:25.300 --> 01:27:26.220
little bit harder.
1425
01:27:27.340 --> 01:27:27.880
Which part?
1426
01:27:28.560 --> 01:27:31.960
About being possessed. Oh. Like a man that was possessed.
1427
01:27:33.039 --> 01:27:35.079
But I mean, it does hit because he speaks about
1428
01:27:35.119 --> 01:27:37.439
it later. But I think I mean in like the moment,
1429
01:27:37.479 --> 01:27:41.640
like in his face. Um, he's kind of taken all
1430
01:27:41.699 --> 01:27:48.970
this in, uh, but he doesn't, um, I don't know.
1431
01:27:49.050 --> 01:27:52.550
He's just kind of like, huh? Like a little chagrined,
1432
01:27:53.130 --> 01:27:57.520
but not like called out. Hmm. You know what I mean?
1433
01:27:57.539 --> 01:28:02.319
I do know what you mean. Well, I don't know.
1434
01:28:02.420 --> 01:28:04.579
This is one of those things where it's definitely also
1435
01:28:04.619 --> 01:28:10.329
just personal preference and baggage because, um, For me, when
1436
01:28:10.409 --> 01:28:14.609
he says you were like a man possessed, internally, I
1437
01:28:14.789 --> 01:28:19.069
was like, oh, boy. Yeah, okay. Okay, we get it.
1438
01:28:20.250 --> 01:28:25.060
But I can also understand why you feel like you
1439
01:28:25.079 --> 01:28:30.460
really underreacted there, Sam. So, yeah, I don't know.
1440
01:28:31.220 --> 01:28:36.069
Yeah. I didn't expect it to be a kind of
1441
01:28:36.130 --> 01:28:43.350
reaction that would necessarily... create any additional questions from the doctor,
1442
01:28:44.100 --> 01:28:49.659
but I kind of wanted to see Sam like, like,
1443
01:28:49.899 --> 01:28:52.279
like there's a face Sam makes at the very end
1444
01:28:52.319 --> 01:28:55.739
of that scene. That's what I'm looking for. It was
1445
01:28:55.760 --> 01:28:58.520
just the timing of it was different. You know, like,
1446
01:28:58.579 --> 01:29:01.470
like there's a, There's a, because he's like, the doctor's like,
1447
01:29:01.510 --> 01:29:02.850
I'll let you out to the room, but you're going
1448
01:29:02.869 --> 01:29:05.029
to be supervised. And if anything else happens, I'm going
1449
01:29:05.050 --> 01:29:07.029
to send you someplace where they, you know, won't be
1450
01:29:07.069 --> 01:29:10.850
as forgiving. Yeah. And to that, Sam's face looks like
1451
01:29:10.899 --> 01:29:13.920
kind of what I wanted to see in that other moment.
1452
01:29:15.779 --> 01:29:17.000
Just kind of like a.
1453
01:29:19.220 --> 01:29:21.319
Fuck, you know? Yeah.
1454
01:29:21.340 --> 01:29:23.619
Like a real kind of, not a fuck, I'm in
1455
01:29:23.640 --> 01:29:25.800
a bad situation or a fuck, I might not get
1456
01:29:25.859 --> 01:29:28.449
out of here. I might end up someplace else that's
1457
01:29:28.489 --> 01:29:34.380
like more, secure but like a fuck what is what.
1458
01:29:34.260 --> 01:29:36.859
Is in what is going on with me yeah yeah.
1459
01:29:36.760 --> 01:29:39.300
Yeah and then they let him in a day room
1460
01:29:39.359 --> 01:29:43.140
and he immediately starts hallucinating they weigh.
1461
01:29:42.520 --> 01:29:48.279
This like instantly i mean that doctor must just.
1462
01:29:48.159 --> 01:29:52.939
Be like oh i really right okay i guess i
1463
01:29:53.350 --> 01:30:01.609
deserve this And, yeah, the things that all the people
1464
01:30:01.689 --> 01:30:05.090
are saying are, you know, black spot on your soul.
1465
01:30:05.470 --> 01:30:07.949
We're all going to die. You're a freak. You're a loser.
1466
01:30:07.989 --> 01:30:12.220
You killed us all. And it's just a throng of
1467
01:30:12.270 --> 01:30:15.920
people seeming to be around him, completely surrounding him. And
1468
01:30:15.979 --> 01:30:18.100
he is wailing on them.
1469
01:30:18.260 --> 01:30:18.460
Yeah.
1470
01:30:18.479 --> 01:30:20.800
But they're not really there. So it's just him spinning around,
1471
01:30:20.859 --> 01:30:22.939
punching air for a minute, which is, like, fine.
1472
01:30:22.960 --> 01:30:24.710
And....
1473
01:30:26.789 --> 01:30:32.600
Dean is watching all of this from a table. Like
1474
01:30:32.979 --> 01:30:33.920
he can't even move.
1475
01:30:34.300 --> 01:30:34.579
Yeah.
1476
01:30:34.659 --> 01:30:37.239
And he's just, he's just saying over and over what's happening,
1477
01:30:37.279 --> 01:30:40.399
what's happening, what's happening. And then orderlies come and Sam
1478
01:30:40.439 --> 01:30:42.380
decks them too. Cause that's what you're going to do.
1479
01:30:44.600 --> 01:30:53.350
I mean, the, the imaginary people that he's fighting, he's
1480
01:30:53.390 --> 01:30:56.560
going so hard for that. Even if the orderlies die,
1481
01:30:58.180 --> 01:31:00.439
Even if he couldn't see the... You don't want to
1482
01:31:00.460 --> 01:31:02.979
be anywhere near this man, the way he's swinging. Six
1483
01:31:03.020 --> 01:31:06.350
foot what? Come in and try to grab his arms? No,
1484
01:31:06.399 --> 01:31:09.710
let him tire himself out. People who do this stuff
1485
01:31:09.729 --> 01:31:15.090
for a living have got to be some of the strongest,
1486
01:31:15.930 --> 01:31:23.470
most committed, pun intended. I mean, I just can't imagine. I.
1487
01:31:26.609 --> 01:31:29.359
Would never. I would never want any parts of it.
1488
01:31:29.970 --> 01:31:37.800
Yeah. Yeah. I agree. It is a different type of
1489
01:31:37.859 --> 01:31:40.340
constitution you have to have, I think, to do that
1490
01:31:40.380 --> 01:31:47.479
type of work. And hopefully, in order to do it
1491
01:31:47.500 --> 01:31:49.979
with any sort of compassion and care and dignity, it
1492
01:31:50.159 --> 01:31:51.140
takes another level.
1493
01:31:51.659 --> 01:31:52.239
Yeah.
1494
01:31:54.340 --> 01:32:00.720
But yeah. I wouldn't recommend it as an opportunity for
1495
01:32:00.779 --> 01:32:04.920
employment to anybody if you have another choice.
1496
01:32:05.199 --> 01:32:07.020
Opportunity for employment.
1497
01:32:10.090 --> 01:32:14.829
So Dean sneaks into Martin's room and almost catches an
1498
01:32:14.949 --> 01:32:16.829
eye jammy because Martin wakes up swinging.
1499
01:32:18.010 --> 01:32:20.869
This dude, for all that he's not a hunter anymore,
1500
01:32:20.890 --> 01:32:25.850
is fucking ready. I must respect it.
1501
01:32:29.310 --> 01:32:31.869
Um you're right and yeah i was just making sure
1502
01:32:31.890 --> 01:32:35.989
where i'm going ah so uh this is when dean
1503
01:32:36.029 --> 01:32:38.310
is like i think i'm going crazy too i'm seeing
1504
01:32:38.369 --> 01:32:43.020
things i'm hearing things sam is in lockdown crazy's the
1505
01:32:43.039 --> 01:32:45.899
clue he says and then he.
1506
01:32:46.359 --> 01:32:49.260
Just sort of like trails off yeah and he has
1507
01:32:49.279 --> 01:32:51.119
to be brought back and he says crazy is the
1508
01:32:51.159 --> 01:32:54.159
clue again he's like yeah you just said that i
1509
01:32:54.500 --> 01:32:57.500
cackled because like This is what it's like dealing with
1510
01:32:57.520 --> 01:33:01.100
people who are fucked up. They lose their train of
1511
01:33:01.149 --> 01:33:03.449
thought and then they come back and they just repeat it.
1512
01:33:03.470 --> 01:33:04.989
I mean, this is also what it's like dealing with
1513
01:33:05.029 --> 01:33:07.350
me with ADHD. But we'll set that aside and we'll
1514
01:33:07.369 --> 01:33:09.609
talk about people who are fucked up in a different way.
1515
01:33:10.689 --> 01:33:16.649
But yeah, this whole vibe of just like, I am
1516
01:33:16.850 --> 01:33:20.460
thinking so hard that I can't focus, which is just
1517
01:33:20.500 --> 01:33:23.239
a weird place to be. But if you've been there,
1518
01:33:23.260 --> 01:33:23.420
you know.
1519
01:33:23.439 --> 01:33:23.659
Mm-hmm.
1520
01:33:26.300 --> 01:33:30.119
Yeah, he is. And Dean also starts talking about this
1521
01:33:30.140 --> 01:33:32.159
is how we're going to end up, you know, drooling
1522
01:33:32.180 --> 01:33:34.779
like a couple of, you know, craziest bedbugs. And he
1523
01:33:34.840 --> 01:33:36.220
looks at Martin and goes, no offense.
1524
01:33:36.920 --> 01:33:39.500
Martin very sincerely to me is just like, no take.
1525
01:33:39.560 --> 01:33:42.460
I'm like, he just truly just let that roll off him.
1526
01:33:44.279 --> 01:33:45.020
You know.
1527
01:33:46.020 --> 01:33:48.729
But Dean is putting the pieces together. He's like, but,
1528
01:33:48.770 --> 01:33:50.869
you know, maybe we would end up like this if
1529
01:33:50.909 --> 01:33:53.210
we live long enough being hunters. But both of us
1530
01:33:53.329 --> 01:33:57.800
going this crazy on the same day. something something's going
1531
01:33:58.100 --> 01:34:01.560
on yeah and they start to theorize that maybe the
1532
01:34:01.600 --> 01:34:04.699
wraith doesn't just feed on people who are insane but
1533
01:34:04.760 --> 01:34:07.619
maybe it makes them that way maybe it you know
1534
01:34:07.899 --> 01:34:14.569
it makes them crazy and uh he asked dean says
1535
01:34:14.729 --> 01:34:18.189
does that seem possible does that seem real and martin
1536
01:34:18.210 --> 01:34:21.569
says i'm not the most reliable source.
1537
01:34:23.319 --> 01:34:28.619
I appreciate you martin Just being like, asking me the question,
1538
01:34:28.680 --> 01:34:34.239
does that seem real? Isn't going to get you the
1539
01:34:34.479 --> 01:34:39.949
clarity you're looking for. So we're going to rephrase it.
1540
01:34:40.750 --> 01:34:43.210
He's like, but it does sound, it does make sense.
1541
01:34:46.630 --> 01:34:49.100
And then Dean is like, yeah, maybe we got infected.
1542
01:34:49.579 --> 01:34:51.520
And then he starts to trail off again. He's like,
1543
01:34:51.539 --> 01:34:55.619
maybe it's my dad. And Martin is like, come back, buddy. Focus.
1544
01:34:56.359 --> 01:35:01.880
Come back. But yeah, for a second, Dean is like,
1545
01:35:01.899 --> 01:35:05.279
his dad pops back up into his head. Even if
1546
01:35:05.359 --> 01:35:14.340
it's just for a split second. Yeah. Maybe it's my dad. What? How?
1547
01:35:15.260 --> 01:35:18.689
Maybe it's my dad making us crazy. Like, why would
1548
01:35:18.699 --> 01:35:19.239
you think that?
1549
01:35:19.279 --> 01:35:20.689
Why wouldn't you think that?
1550
01:35:21.590 --> 01:35:22.770
Fair enough. Fair enough.
1551
01:35:22.810 --> 01:35:25.890
His dad has made them crazy. I think that's just.
1552
01:35:25.789 --> 01:35:28.220
Like That's just a thing, right?
1553
01:35:28.560 --> 01:35:31.039
Yeah, that's the.
1554
01:35:36.100 --> 01:35:38.750
Show. So now they think it's Wendy because they're thinking
1555
01:35:38.810 --> 01:35:41.789
about the saliva. It must be how the toxin is spread.
1556
01:35:42.029 --> 01:35:47.869
We get Dean doing this walk down the hallway because
1557
01:35:47.909 --> 01:35:49.689
he can't step on the cracks.
1558
01:35:51.819 --> 01:35:56.069
Yeah, the way that he is twisting himself into knots
1559
01:35:56.170 --> 01:36:01.079
to try and like, and he is chagrined when it's
1560
01:36:01.199 --> 01:36:04.819
pointed out. Like he is aware. I know this makes
1561
01:36:04.880 --> 01:36:09.560
no sense, but he can't stop himself anyway, because that
1562
01:36:09.600 --> 01:36:11.350
is how that shit is. It's like, look, I don't
1563
01:36:11.399 --> 01:36:14.770
want to be doing this, but when he says, I can't,
1564
01:36:15.010 --> 01:36:18.449
it's literally like, I can't, I can't step on the cracks.
1565
01:36:18.670 --> 01:36:21.210
I know this is ridiculous. I'm so sorry. We're moving
1566
01:36:21.250 --> 01:36:23.649
so slow. I don't know what else to tell you.
1567
01:36:23.829 --> 01:36:26.369
I can't step on the cracks. Yeah. And that's just
1568
01:36:26.430 --> 01:36:28.569
the facts. Oh, that rhymes.
1569
01:36:32.770 --> 01:36:39.199
But yeah, so this, uh, pilgrimage, it's just like, they're
1570
01:36:39.239 --> 01:36:41.880
moving so slowly. That's all I can think to call
1571
01:36:41.920 --> 01:36:46.279
it in this moment. Just like very slowly making their way. Um,
1572
01:36:49.489 --> 01:36:55.329
I'm trying to get, he eventually comes across the, cause
1573
01:36:55.369 --> 01:36:58.710
there's somebody screaming for a second and it gets cut off.
1574
01:36:58.909 --> 01:37:01.489
Right. Yeah. They're, they're on their way to see Wendy
1575
01:37:01.550 --> 01:37:02.750
who they think is the Wraith.
1576
01:37:02.869 --> 01:37:03.130
Right.
1577
01:37:03.149 --> 01:37:06.140
She's been kissing everybody, but Wendy's actually in the process
1578
01:37:06.180 --> 01:37:07.029
of being attacked.
1579
01:37:07.140 --> 01:37:07.640
Yeah.
1580
01:37:07.649 --> 01:37:10.720
Poor Wendy. So they're on their way to her room
1581
01:37:10.779 --> 01:37:13.119
and they hear the screaming and then they bust in
1582
01:37:13.180 --> 01:37:15.840
and catch, you know, catch the Wraith in sort of
1583
01:37:15.979 --> 01:37:16.859
in action.
1584
01:37:17.039 --> 01:37:17.340
Yeah.
1585
01:37:18.060 --> 01:37:22.399
Um, Dean and the Wraith are fighting. Martin goes over and, like,
1586
01:37:23.220 --> 01:37:28.840
checks on Wendy. Then the fucking knife falls out of
1587
01:37:28.859 --> 01:37:31.229
Dean's hand. I think Martin gets it and, like, gets
1588
01:37:31.310 --> 01:37:36.329
a swipe at the nurse. And we see her hand, like,
1589
01:37:37.569 --> 01:37:40.949
what do I want to say? When she gets, like,
1590
01:37:40.989 --> 01:37:42.130
crackles and pops.
1591
01:37:42.510 --> 01:37:45.100
Oh, yeah. It, like, sizzles. Sizzles.
1592
01:37:45.260 --> 01:37:46.319
That's the word I wanted.
1593
01:37:46.479 --> 01:37:46.619
Yeah.
1594
01:37:46.640 --> 01:37:50.649
Yeah. And they go check on Wendy, who's still alive.
1595
01:37:50.689 --> 01:37:52.909
There's a creepy quick moment, too, that she opens her
1596
01:37:53.029 --> 01:37:54.149
eyes or something, and you're just.
1597
01:37:54.060 --> 01:37:54.479
Like, whoa.
1598
01:37:54.520 --> 01:37:55.989
Mm-hmm. Whoa, what's that?
1599
01:37:56.189 --> 01:38:00.100
Yeah. She is laying there so still, and when she
1600
01:38:00.199 --> 01:38:04.399
opens her eyes, there's no accompanying, like, you know, like
1601
01:38:04.420 --> 01:38:07.859
the kind of thing that you would be expecting. So
1602
01:38:08.060 --> 01:38:11.079
it just feels almost like, was she just faking it?
1603
01:38:11.100 --> 01:38:12.899
Is she about to do something? And then it just
1604
01:38:12.960 --> 01:38:17.289
cuts away. So it was just that she was... But
1605
01:38:17.310 --> 01:38:19.800
I definitely for a second was like, does this like
1606
01:38:19.800 --> 01:38:21.880
turn you into something for a second?
1607
01:38:21.880 --> 01:38:23.609
Is she going to be a monster now?
1608
01:38:23.609 --> 01:38:23.890
Yeah.
1609
01:38:23.890 --> 01:38:25.890
Jump up with those things in her palm in her
1610
01:38:25.930 --> 01:38:29.350
wrists who can tell who can tell and dean again
1611
01:38:29.409 --> 01:38:32.949
is in the corner cowering watching and martin is like
1612
01:38:32.970 --> 01:38:34.760
you gotta go you gotta go after her because the
1613
01:38:34.800 --> 01:38:37.619
nurse has like left the room and it called out
1614
01:38:37.640 --> 01:38:41.920
to the orderlies and uh orderlies come in martin jumps
1615
01:38:42.079 --> 01:38:46.140
on them And, like, ties them up and has to
1616
01:38:46.199 --> 01:38:48.500
yell at Dean, like, hey, snap out of it. Like,
1617
01:38:48.520 --> 01:38:51.359
you gotta go. You gotta go now. And Dean is like,
1618
01:38:51.439 --> 01:38:54.130
I can't. I can't. And it's a moment of Dean
1619
01:38:54.170 --> 01:38:56.489
being just like, what the fuck are you gonna do?
1620
01:38:56.510 --> 01:38:58.670
What are you gonna do? Are you gonna be able
1621
01:38:58.689 --> 01:39:00.609
to do what you have to do? And eventually he does, like,
1622
01:39:00.630 --> 01:39:05.210
get up and leave the room. But meanwhile, she has
1623
01:39:05.250 --> 01:39:08.289
made her way to the room where they have Sam restrained.
1624
01:39:08.600 --> 01:39:09.069
Yeah.
1625
01:39:09.100 --> 01:39:09.180
Yeah.
1626
01:39:10.159 --> 01:39:12.739
An actual padded room, which I don't know if these
1627
01:39:12.760 --> 01:39:18.739
things are real. Do these like exist in a real way?
1628
01:39:18.859 --> 01:39:21.119
Like this is one of those, those movie conventions that
1629
01:39:21.159 --> 01:39:24.670
you see all kinds of stuff that you find out
1630
01:39:24.710 --> 01:39:27.869
later in life. That's not really how any of that works.
1631
01:39:28.489 --> 01:39:29.930
And I know this is going to be a weird
1632
01:39:29.970 --> 01:39:32.350
example to give, but the one that I always think
1633
01:39:32.390 --> 01:39:35.590
of is how in, and I actually, I think I
1634
01:39:35.689 --> 01:39:38.510
told you about this. It wasn't until I was like
1635
01:39:38.510 --> 01:39:42.250
29 years, that I encountered an ice cream truck that
1636
01:39:42.289 --> 01:39:43.130
had soft serve.
1637
01:39:44.409 --> 01:39:44.949
Oh my God.
1638
01:39:44.970 --> 01:39:47.569
That was simply not a thing anywhere I lived. And
1639
01:39:47.630 --> 01:39:50.229
I'd see movies and just be like, that's not real.
1640
01:39:50.630 --> 01:39:53.569
And it turns out truck had a hard ice cream.
1641
01:39:53.670 --> 01:39:57.829
Our ice cream truck had pre-packaged ice cream bars. Like
1642
01:39:57.850 --> 01:40:02.970
the fact that your mind did not go to that
1643
01:40:03.090 --> 01:40:05.600
and went instead to hard ice cream. Like they're scooping
1644
01:40:06.979 --> 01:40:10.119
like out of a Baskin Robbins ice No, it's just
1645
01:40:10.159 --> 01:40:12.510
like the bars that you can get in the front
1646
01:40:12.590 --> 01:40:14.569
case of like a convenience store.
1647
01:40:15.810 --> 01:40:17.409
That's bananas.
1648
01:40:18.590 --> 01:40:22.649
It's not, Rashaun. It's standard. You just live in a city.
1649
01:40:22.810 --> 01:40:25.050
Yes. Oh, my God.
1650
01:40:25.109 --> 01:40:29.770
Yes, by far it is standard. It requires way less equipment.
1651
01:40:29.909 --> 01:40:33.500
It requires next to no cleaning. It's way cheaper on
1652
01:40:33.779 --> 01:40:39.189
so many levels. Yeah, definitely. You don't have to have containers.
1653
01:40:39.199 --> 01:40:41.449
There's barely any weight because you just grab it. You
1654
01:40:41.489 --> 01:40:44.189
don't have to serve it up. There's no toppings and
1655
01:40:44.289 --> 01:40:46.189
sprinkles to deal with. Yeah, no.
1656
01:40:46.390 --> 01:40:49.250
Oh, my God. I'm so sorry.
1657
01:40:50.350 --> 01:40:52.649
Look, me too. I took a photo of that ice
1658
01:40:52.680 --> 01:40:56.119
cream when I got it because I was just like, what?
1659
01:40:56.760 --> 01:40:58.079
And I still have that photo.
1660
01:40:58.100 --> 01:41:00.039
Stacey is saying the same. Stacey is saying our ice
1661
01:41:00.079 --> 01:41:01.899
cream trucks had the same thing. I've never seen one
1662
01:41:01.920 --> 01:41:04.840
with extra ice cream. You guys are blowing my mind
1663
01:41:04.880 --> 01:41:05.300
right now.
1664
01:41:05.399 --> 01:41:11.420
It's really tragic. Like, I think about this a lot because,
1665
01:41:11.680 --> 01:41:13.579
you know, I've moved back to a place where it's
1666
01:41:14.020 --> 01:41:17.899
definitely once again going to be bars. If we ever
1667
01:41:17.939 --> 01:41:22.100
had an ice cream truck show up, which we don't,
1668
01:41:22.539 --> 01:41:24.090
which is surprising because there's a lot of kids in
1669
01:41:24.119 --> 01:41:28.890
our neighborhood. They really should. But yeah, it's the padded
1670
01:41:28.970 --> 01:41:34.130
room is a thing that feels to me like there's
1671
01:41:34.369 --> 01:41:36.989
two places in the country probably that have one of
1672
01:41:37.029 --> 01:41:40.760
these and it's like low-key illegal and not.
1673
01:41:40.659 --> 01:41:44.840
Really used anymore you know what i mean i have
1674
01:41:45.000 --> 01:41:51.079
a a weird memory of seeing a padded room but
1675
01:41:51.100 --> 01:41:55.279
it has not been substantiated by the other people who
1676
01:41:55.319 --> 01:41:59.689
were there that day okay We all have different versions
1677
01:41:59.770 --> 01:42:03.609
of what we saw. It's very, very weird. Um, and
1678
01:42:03.670 --> 01:42:07.600
my recollection of the event is very different than other
1679
01:42:07.640 --> 01:42:10.399
people who were there, but I have a distinct memory
1680
01:42:10.539 --> 01:42:14.239
of seeing someone. It didn't had a padded room.
1681
01:42:14.560 --> 01:42:15.819
Interesting. Okay.
1682
01:42:15.949 --> 01:42:18.979
I went to visit, uh, someone who was in a,
1683
01:42:19.189 --> 01:42:24.220
in a hospital in like institutionalized, um, And I remember
1684
01:42:24.279 --> 01:42:26.500
the room being padded, but when I talked to my
1685
01:42:26.539 --> 01:42:28.500
brother and my mother about it, they're like, yeah, no,
1686
01:42:28.720 --> 01:42:30.699
I don't think so. So I don't know if my
1687
01:42:30.739 --> 01:42:34.239
mind just, you know, filled in some blanks and stuff.
1688
01:42:35.539 --> 01:42:37.119
And I don't have a lot of, even though I
1689
01:42:37.180 --> 01:42:39.420
was old enough to have a full memory of this,
1690
01:42:39.479 --> 01:42:40.399
I was like 15.
1691
01:42:40.399 --> 01:42:40.720
Yeah.
1692
01:42:41.520 --> 01:42:42.659
It might as well, I might as well have been
1693
01:42:42.689 --> 01:42:46.149
three years old. Like the memory is so fractured. It's
1694
01:42:46.170 --> 01:42:48.310
just one of those things that your brain just like you're,
1695
01:42:48.329 --> 01:42:50.329
you know, Your brain does weird things, kids.
1696
01:42:50.470 --> 01:42:52.029
It really does.
1697
01:42:52.350 --> 01:42:54.289
And you know, if there's some information floating around in
1698
01:42:54.310 --> 01:42:55.670
there that it doesn't want you to have to be
1699
01:42:55.710 --> 01:42:58.970
bothered with, it will just be like, we're just going
1700
01:42:59.010 --> 01:43:00.850
to slide this over here.
1701
01:43:01.600 --> 01:43:03.760
It's really scary. I've had so many things where my
1702
01:43:03.819 --> 01:43:07.319
memory tells me something and that memory seems vivid and fresh.
1703
01:43:08.340 --> 01:43:10.439
And then I will go interact with the thing. And
1704
01:43:10.500 --> 01:43:12.699
I was so far off and you would never have
1705
01:43:12.819 --> 01:43:15.460
been able to convince me I was wrong until I
1706
01:43:15.539 --> 01:43:17.960
went and saw with my own eyes. And even then,
1707
01:43:18.279 --> 01:43:20.199
I'm almost like, what is this?
1708
01:43:20.220 --> 01:43:22.439
This is wrong. This is it.
1709
01:43:23.060 --> 01:43:26.890
Yeah. Memory is not to be trusted.
1710
01:43:29.689 --> 01:43:35.170
What was that meme? It was like a picture of
1711
01:43:35.210 --> 01:43:37.510
a Chinese place or something. It was like, we're no
1712
01:43:37.550 --> 01:43:41.430
longer calling them trauma. We're calling it spicy memories or something.
1713
01:43:43.590 --> 01:43:48.350
That feels right. Yep.
1714
01:43:49.930 --> 01:43:54.630
Um, so Dean finally does leave the room and it
1715
01:43:54.829 --> 01:43:58.529
is a ordeal. Yeah. Like he can barely walk at
1716
01:43:58.590 --> 01:43:59.189
this point.
1717
01:43:59.350 --> 01:44:00.229
Yeah.
1718
01:44:00.250 --> 01:44:02.569
Um, and he's trying to make his way to Sam,
1719
01:44:03.189 --> 01:44:05.170
this nurse whose name I cannot remember.
1720
01:44:05.189 --> 01:44:08.380
Uh, I don't even actually know that you say that.
1721
01:44:08.939 --> 01:44:11.539
Yeah. She comes in and the first thing she says
1722
01:44:11.600 --> 01:44:14.399
to him is you are far too angry to be
1723
01:44:14.539 --> 01:44:18.670
out in the world. Uh, And Sam looks at the
1724
01:44:18.710 --> 01:44:20.770
mirror and goes, it's you. And she says, of course
1725
01:44:20.829 --> 01:44:21.430
it's me.
1726
01:44:24.890 --> 01:44:31.050
That was so disrespectful. Just being like, yeah, idiot. Yeah,
1727
01:44:31.069 --> 01:44:35.409
you dumbass. Obviously it's me. What the fuck?
1728
01:44:35.850 --> 01:44:37.210
They low-key deserve that.
1729
01:44:37.270 --> 01:44:38.609
Honestly, they really do.
1730
01:44:38.640 --> 01:44:43.510
Damn. Yeah, and this is when she starts talking about
1731
01:44:43.550 --> 01:44:45.850
how they just made it very easy to spot coming
1732
01:44:45.869 --> 01:44:51.300
in here, talking about monsters, talking about being hunters. Oh,
1733
01:44:51.319 --> 01:44:53.539
my God. I'm so sorry, you guys. Jemai in the
1734
01:44:53.600 --> 01:44:56.979
chat says, I have that postcard on my fridge. You
1735
01:44:57.020 --> 01:45:00.619
need constant villages with your own brain. You can't trust
1736
01:45:00.680 --> 01:45:02.350
that shady, slippery bitch.
1737
01:45:03.609 --> 01:45:05.270
Yes, I forgot about that.
1738
01:45:05.289 --> 01:45:06.689
I did, too.
1739
01:45:06.829 --> 01:45:07.510
Vigilance.
1740
01:45:08.229 --> 01:45:12.020
Yeah. Yeah. Ugh.
1741
01:45:12.960 --> 01:45:15.159
The other one, stay out of your brain, that's a
1742
01:45:15.180 --> 01:45:18.470
bad neighborhood. That was when I was on a tweet
1743
01:45:18.529 --> 01:45:19.109
or something.
1744
01:45:19.630 --> 01:45:20.689
That's an AA thing.
1745
01:45:21.390 --> 01:45:22.229
Ah, okay.
1746
01:45:22.250 --> 01:45:24.189
Yeah, that's something they say in AA all the time.
1747
01:45:24.329 --> 01:45:30.479
I appreciate that one. So yeah, she just decides to
1748
01:45:30.619 --> 01:45:37.079
toy with him a little bit because she actually... likes
1749
01:45:37.159 --> 01:45:40.699
the flavor a lot better when they're crazy because they
1750
01:45:40.720 --> 01:45:45.359
just secrete all of these delicious hormones and adrenaline.
1751
01:45:45.479 --> 01:45:49.819
And yeah, it's like, like Laurie salt, like Laurie seasoning salt.
1752
01:45:49.840 --> 01:45:53.640
It just, you know, I would say adobo, but you know,
1753
01:45:53.739 --> 01:45:54.899
everybody has their thing.
1754
01:45:57.260 --> 01:46:01.930
And she reveals, finally we get to see her little instrument,
1755
01:46:01.989 --> 01:46:06.729
her weapon. And it's like this, this piercing thing, this little,
1756
01:46:07.649 --> 01:46:08.180
I don't know.
1757
01:46:08.220 --> 01:46:10.640
I think we saw that when she was attacking, what's
1758
01:46:10.680 --> 01:46:13.380
her face. It was extended. Yeah.
1759
01:46:13.520 --> 01:46:15.899
Oh, it was out. It was out in that scene.
1760
01:46:15.920 --> 01:46:17.680
You're right. It was already out. Cause she was just
1761
01:46:17.739 --> 01:46:20.899
about to go in. Yeah. You're right. This, this, this,
1762
01:46:21.140 --> 01:46:26.640
it's sliding in and out of her hand. Nope. Like
1763
01:46:26.840 --> 01:46:29.920
it's because it's kind of a cheesy effect and yet
1764
01:46:29.979 --> 01:46:31.659
somehow it's very upsetting.
1765
01:46:31.720 --> 01:46:32.039
Yeah.
1766
01:46:32.140 --> 01:46:34.579
I think it's because it looks so bone like that.
1767
01:46:34.600 --> 01:46:37.789
It almost makes you feel like, is her bone just
1768
01:46:37.850 --> 01:46:39.960
coming out? And you're like, yeah, you know, that's not
1769
01:46:39.979 --> 01:46:42.319
what it is, but it does kind of hit this visceral,
1770
01:46:42.859 --> 01:46:48.130
almost familiar kind of thing that you're just like, ah, why?
1771
01:46:48.779 --> 01:46:51.649
When she has it going almost to his head and
1772
01:46:51.710 --> 01:46:53.789
he finally breaks it. And you know, that's where it's
1773
01:46:53.829 --> 01:46:55.750
going to happen to it. Right. When you have that
1774
01:46:55.829 --> 01:46:57.789
shot with his out, you know, that's what he's got
1775
01:46:57.829 --> 01:47:01.119
to do. So, you know, it's coming and, And yet
1776
01:47:01.220 --> 01:47:03.119
he breaks it. I didn't expect there to be so
1777
01:47:03.140 --> 01:47:06.119
much blood in it. I don't know why. I didn't expect.
1778
01:47:06.960 --> 01:47:10.640
Like, what I expected was for her to just be like,
1779
01:47:11.039 --> 01:47:15.899
damn it. But she screams. It looks like it really
1780
01:47:15.960 --> 01:47:19.420
fucking hurt. It's like he broke one of her fingers off. Like,
1781
01:47:19.460 --> 01:47:21.390
he just ripped it off. Yeah, it's a lot.
1782
01:47:21.739 --> 01:47:24.189
Yeah, it's a lot of blood comes out. She is, like,
1783
01:47:25.289 --> 01:47:29.350
incapacitated by this injury. And he's able to pick up
1784
01:47:29.409 --> 01:47:31.550
the letter opener off the floor and stab her basically
1785
01:47:31.569 --> 01:47:31.989
right in the chest.
1786
01:47:32.010 --> 01:47:33.750
Which he should have had on a bungee, which we
1787
01:47:33.789 --> 01:47:34.930
established during the live.
1788
01:47:34.970 --> 01:47:37.489
Why are they not using the bungee idea? I thought
1789
01:47:37.510 --> 01:47:41.430
we agreed, boys. You know, I don't... We discussed this.
1790
01:47:41.689 --> 01:47:43.710
I'm so disappointed in this turn of events.
1791
01:47:44.510 --> 01:47:44.770
Yeah.
1792
01:47:45.609 --> 01:47:49.430
And then they basically skedaddle.
1793
01:47:49.510 --> 01:47:49.770
Yeah.
1794
01:47:50.090 --> 01:47:52.130
There's like an alarm that goes off, which I'm not
1795
01:47:52.149 --> 01:47:55.649
really sure what spurs that. It like.
1796
01:47:57.630 --> 01:48:04.859
It's all hectic right now, you know? But I don't
1797
01:48:04.960 --> 01:48:07.659
think it's that she was discovered. They're still in the
1798
01:48:07.699 --> 01:48:09.720
room when it starts going off, right?
1799
01:48:10.060 --> 01:48:14.109
My assumption is because Martin is dealing with the orderlies,
1800
01:48:14.529 --> 01:48:17.590
and the orderlies know that Dean got away. So they
1801
01:48:17.609 --> 01:48:19.970
got to, like, sound the alarm, maybe get help with Martin.
1802
01:48:20.579 --> 01:48:23.300
let everybody know there's a patient that's not accounted for,
1803
01:48:23.340 --> 01:48:25.500
which is Dean. Cause as far as they know, Sam
1804
01:48:25.560 --> 01:48:27.140
is still in the lockup.
1805
01:48:27.399 --> 01:48:27.659
Right.
1806
01:48:27.859 --> 01:48:30.430
So that that's my thinking is the alarm is because
1807
01:48:30.439 --> 01:48:32.609
they got the situation with Martin and they've got a
1808
01:48:32.630 --> 01:48:33.649
patient on the loose.
1809
01:48:34.090 --> 01:48:35.069
Gotcha. Okay.
1810
01:48:35.250 --> 01:48:36.329
Whoopsie daisy.
1811
01:48:38.149 --> 01:48:38.510
You're right.
1812
01:48:39.149 --> 01:48:40.750
Yeah, I just knocked something over, but it can be
1813
01:48:40.770 --> 01:48:41.869
picked up later. It's fine.
1814
01:48:41.890 --> 01:48:46.310
That's how I go through life, I swear to God.
1815
01:48:46.489 --> 01:48:50.399
I'll pick it up later. My floor is covered in
1816
01:48:50.579 --> 01:48:52.060
stuff that I just never bothered with.
1817
01:48:52.840 --> 01:48:57.880
Same. And then as they're making their way to the car,
1818
01:48:58.319 --> 01:49:02.350
Sam stops to have this, like, conversation.
1819
01:49:02.369 --> 01:49:03.050
Not now!
1820
01:49:04.149 --> 01:49:07.149
It's an important conversation, and I'm glad he wants to
1821
01:49:07.210 --> 01:49:07.750
have it.
1822
01:49:07.850 --> 01:49:14.100
But not now. But not now. For the love of God,
1823
01:49:14.109 --> 01:49:19.840
have a fucking clue. There's a time and place.
1824
01:49:22.079 --> 01:49:27.720
Ugh. Yeah, Sam stops. They're walking to the car. Like,
1825
01:49:27.760 --> 01:49:30.960
they're practically at the car, but Sam stops. And Dean
1826
01:49:31.000 --> 01:49:32.899
is like, what are you? Dude, what are you doing?
1827
01:49:32.930 --> 01:49:33.270
I can't.
1828
01:49:33.289 --> 01:49:35.770
You said to get in the car and go. Let's
1829
01:49:35.810 --> 01:49:36.850
hit the fucking road.
1830
01:49:37.149 --> 01:49:41.130
I get so irked by this lack of urgency in anything.
1831
01:49:41.229 --> 01:49:43.810
And the boys are usually so good about it. To
1832
01:49:43.850 --> 01:49:45.770
have him be the one that stops and is like,
1833
01:49:46.250 --> 01:49:47.829
I need to talk about my mental health right now.
1834
01:49:47.909 --> 01:49:51.869
I'm like, is this because you want to go back inside?
1835
01:49:51.949 --> 01:49:54.409
I was going to say, do you need to go
1836
01:49:54.449 --> 01:49:55.939
back out? Do you want to go back?
1837
01:49:55.960 --> 01:49:57.720
If you want to go back, then just turn around,
1838
01:49:57.739 --> 01:49:59.170
but don't drag me into it.
1839
01:50:00.920 --> 01:50:03.720
But yeah, this is... I'm mad all the time. And,
1840
01:50:03.779 --> 01:50:06.520
you know, I've been blaming it on this. I've been
1841
01:50:06.560 --> 01:50:09.270
blaming it on that. But it's not any of those things.
1842
01:50:09.430 --> 01:50:13.449
It's me. It's in me. And Dean is just like,
1843
01:50:13.710 --> 01:50:14.789
suck it up, buttercup.
1844
01:50:15.409 --> 01:50:22.420
Basically, as he puts it, is, okay, so you're mad. So?
1845
01:50:24.539 --> 01:50:26.159
And what's that going to do? Are you going to like,
1846
01:50:26.399 --> 01:50:31.000
you know, like, basically... He has the attitude that I
1847
01:50:31.039 --> 01:50:36.649
have on my worst days where I am just like, yeah,
1848
01:50:36.689 --> 01:50:41.350
so you're sad. Well, guess what? Many people are sad.
1849
01:50:42.069 --> 01:50:45.310
Life goes on. Let's fucking get a move on. I
1850
01:50:45.350 --> 01:50:50.220
have very, very little patience for myself a lot. And honestly,
1851
01:50:50.500 --> 01:50:54.460
to a degree, it's true. You do just got to
1852
01:50:54.500 --> 01:50:54.960
go on.
1853
01:50:54.979 --> 01:50:57.420
As long as you can until you can't.
1854
01:50:58.869 --> 01:51:02.909
But the thing is, like, I have this, and Dean
1855
01:51:02.930 --> 01:51:05.930
has this as well, of acting like acknowledging that you
1856
01:51:05.970 --> 01:51:10.750
have the pain is wallowing, which it's not wallowing if
1857
01:51:11.329 --> 01:51:14.689
you never have acknowledged it before.
1858
01:51:15.329 --> 01:51:15.670
Exactly.
1859
01:51:15.710 --> 01:51:18.069
And that's what he's acting as if it's like, you're
1860
01:51:18.100 --> 01:51:22.020
just being so self-indulgent, which, to be fair, right now,
1861
01:51:22.300 --> 01:51:26.760
he is, because, as we've said, not right now. So
1862
01:51:26.800 --> 01:51:30.760
this is a little bit like, please, but in a
1863
01:51:31.760 --> 01:51:37.170
greater sense, talking about your feelings is not inherently self-indulgent.
1864
01:51:37.829 --> 01:51:37.989
Nope.
1865
01:51:38.710 --> 01:51:40.710
You know, and we, and we really.
1866
01:51:40.489 --> 01:51:42.970
Do treat it like it is, you know, we really
1867
01:51:43.010 --> 01:51:46.659
do act like all the jokes about, I mean, it's, it's,
1868
01:51:46.800 --> 01:51:49.600
it's changed, you know, over the years, generationally, it's a
1869
01:51:49.619 --> 01:51:51.300
little bit different. Now we to have a little bit
1870
01:51:51.340 --> 01:51:53.600
more respect or pretend at least to have more respect
1871
01:51:53.659 --> 01:51:57.140
about mental health therapy and, and all that stuff. And
1872
01:51:57.180 --> 01:51:59.920
like the stigma is slowly kind of going away, but
1873
01:51:59.960 --> 01:52:02.180
it's still, it's still active. But, you know, but I
1874
01:52:02.239 --> 01:52:07.409
distinctly recall, and it hasn't been that long where saying
1875
01:52:07.449 --> 01:52:11.729
somebody was seeing a therapist was shorthand basically for, oh,
1876
01:52:11.750 --> 01:52:17.800
they're so self-indulgent. They're so self-concerned. You know, they are
1877
01:52:18.159 --> 01:52:21.699
too wrapped up in themselves. What a waste of time.
1878
01:52:21.720 --> 01:52:22.720
A navel gazer.
1879
01:52:23.729 --> 01:52:27.970
Navel-gazing, you're paying somebody to listen to you talk about yourself.
1880
01:52:28.010 --> 01:52:30.750
Can you think of anything more ridiculous or disgusting, you know?
1881
01:52:30.930 --> 01:52:31.289
Yeah.
1882
01:52:31.750 --> 01:52:38.800
That sort of mentality was so prevalent, and it really
1883
01:52:38.859 --> 01:52:42.000
informed everything. You saw it, like, in stand-up, you saw
1884
01:52:42.020 --> 01:52:45.420
it in movies and TV shows, and, like, there was, like,
1885
01:52:45.460 --> 01:52:48.079
a one-off insult you could say to somebody. Somebody would
1886
01:52:48.100 --> 01:52:52.779
tell you, I can remember... I can remember holding those
1887
01:52:52.840 --> 01:52:56.359
kind of thoughts. As somebody who's needed mental health support themselves,
1888
01:52:56.520 --> 01:52:59.760
I can distinctly remember a time, especially in my teen
1889
01:52:59.800 --> 01:53:02.859
years and my very early 20s, if I found out
1890
01:53:03.729 --> 01:53:08.850
a friend had access to mental therapy, I would just
1891
01:53:08.869 --> 01:53:14.810
be like, oh, must be nice to throw $ 100 away
1892
01:53:14.829 --> 01:53:17.750
to have somebody listen to you. You know what I mean?
1893
01:53:18.470 --> 01:53:21.970
And it was such a common thing. common common way
1894
01:53:22.010 --> 01:53:26.270
of thinking um and and even though we've gotten better
1895
01:53:27.010 --> 01:53:33.430
around specific conversations i do think that sort of what
1896
01:53:33.449 --> 01:53:37.029
do i want to call it that dismissiveness is still
1897
01:53:37.090 --> 01:53:39.989
kind of there we we maybe hide it a little
1898
01:53:40.010 --> 01:53:44.149
bit better but because we know it's not as as
1899
01:53:44.229 --> 01:53:48.369
acceptable to say it out loud anymore. Right. But I
1900
01:53:48.430 --> 01:53:53.569
think the attitude still kind of remains, you know, that, um,
1901
01:53:55.409 --> 01:53:59.560
seeking that type of support, you know, acknowledging your feelings,
1902
01:53:59.619 --> 01:54:02.520
acknowledging that you're not okay, that you're struggling or whatever
1903
01:54:03.159 --> 01:54:06.590
is seen as, oh, you're just wallowing in it. Get up,
1904
01:54:06.619 --> 01:54:08.779
get up and do something different. If you, if you
1905
01:54:08.800 --> 01:54:10.600
suck so bad, get up and change it. You know,
1906
01:54:10.979 --> 01:54:13.079
don't sit around, don't sit around talking about it. Do
1907
01:54:13.140 --> 01:54:17.390
something about it. That, that energy, you know, as though
1908
01:54:17.470 --> 01:54:21.010
talking is not equal to doing when it's really like
1909
01:54:21.449 --> 01:54:22.579
the very first step.
1910
01:54:23.399 --> 01:54:23.640
Yeah.
1911
01:54:23.979 --> 01:54:28.720
That's the, that's the main thing again, where you're allowed
1912
01:54:28.779 --> 01:54:31.720
to talk about it if you've never talked about it,
1913
01:54:31.779 --> 01:54:33.659
because how are you supposed to know what the next
1914
01:54:33.739 --> 01:54:37.210
step is until you've actually know what the problem is?
1915
01:54:37.890 --> 01:54:40.970
And this is something that I've run into with Marshall's
1916
01:54:41.210 --> 01:54:46.039
grandmother is like, she just has zero tolerance for complaining
1917
01:54:46.100 --> 01:54:48.770
of any kind in a way that I think is
1918
01:54:48.810 --> 01:54:53.510
so toxic. And it's like, I, you know, we'll be
1919
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talking about doing home repair stuff and I'll be like,
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oh yeah. And our floor is just absolutely shot and
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01:55:00.720 --> 01:55:04.359
really needs to be replaced. And she'll be like, well,
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you know, it still works as a floor though.
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Right.
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Like, you can still walk on it. Wow. That kind
1925
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of thing where she'll just cut me off in a
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01:55:12.149 --> 01:55:14.590
way that's almost like, did you build our house? Like,
1927
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why are you so defensive of this? But she's like
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that with everything. And I get so frustrated. There was
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a day recently where we were playing a game and
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my phone was blowing up. And it was Candice texting
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me several paragraphs angry about an anime that she was
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watching that I've never seen. And this is a standard
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thing where Candace will just, she knows I've never seen it.
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She knows that I can't, I have nothing to offer,
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but she needs to say it to somebody. And so
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she just will go off and I'll just let, so
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I put my phone on do not disturb after checking it.
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And I sort of smirked as I put it on,
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do not disturb. And Marshall was just like, what's going
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01:55:55.649 --> 01:55:57.430
on there? And I was just like, Oh, Candace is
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01:55:57.489 --> 01:56:01.289
mad about an anime. And he's like, ah, and his
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01:56:01.609 --> 01:56:04.899
grandmother is like, that's a friend. I was like, yeah.
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01:56:04.920 --> 01:56:08.270
And she's like, and she's just like texting you to
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complain about something. And I was like, yeah. And she goes,
1945
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does she complain a lot? And I said, yeah, it's
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one of my favorite things about her. And his grandmother
1947
01:56:20.050 --> 01:56:23.149
just was blank for a second. It was like, what?
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And I was just like, yeah, well, complaining is super fun.
1949
01:56:26.699 --> 01:56:28.819
And how are you going to like fix anything until
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01:56:28.859 --> 01:56:32.100
you complain about it and know what's wrong? So, And
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01:56:32.319 --> 01:56:35.199
she just seemed to not know what to do with that.
1952
01:56:35.239 --> 01:56:38.439
So we just changed the subject after that. But I
1953
01:56:38.520 --> 01:56:40.880
felt like I really wanted to sort of hammer it home.
1954
01:56:40.899 --> 01:56:46.229
It's fine sometimes, you know. It makes me wonder if
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01:56:46.250 --> 01:56:48.489
she thinks I'm judging her when she complains. Of course
1956
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I'm not. Like, I complain 80% of the words out
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of my mouth.
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That's what it is.
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What do I care?
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01:56:55.359 --> 01:56:57.770
I mean, what else is there? There's not a whole
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01:56:57.819 --> 01:56:59.779
lot to, you know, I mean, there's a lot to
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01:56:59.819 --> 01:57:00.510
complain about.
1963
01:57:00.550 --> 01:57:02.829
There's so much to complain. Let's all be very real.
1964
01:57:02.989 --> 01:57:04.989
You know, there's less. I mean, I know that there's
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01:57:05.010 --> 01:57:06.850
good things to celebrate and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
1966
01:57:07.170 --> 01:57:09.869
But really, the things to complain about are just like endless.
1967
01:57:09.970 --> 01:57:11.949
Like you just go on and on forever about it.
1968
01:57:12.289 --> 01:57:17.770
And I am a person of action as well. I complain,
1969
01:57:17.989 --> 01:57:21.939
but I also do stuff. I am just, that's how
1970
01:57:22.039 --> 01:57:26.449
I work is I will whine. Endlessly. But I'll do it.
1971
01:57:26.699 --> 01:57:33.920
My parents didn't raise a quitter. They raised a complainer.
1972
01:57:34.460 --> 01:57:37.340
I'll do it. And I'm going to bitch and moan.
1973
01:57:38.100 --> 01:57:43.039
You will know about every single little instance of inconvenience.
1974
01:57:44.060 --> 01:57:46.560
But it will get done. And it will get done well, too.
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01:57:46.819 --> 01:57:50.180
I will really commit to it. But I will also
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01:57:50.239 --> 01:57:52.340
really commit to that fucking complaining. And I'm not going
1977
01:57:52.359 --> 01:57:54.399
to apologize for that. I just think that that is
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01:57:54.439 --> 01:57:55.359
how it should be done.
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01:57:56.199 --> 01:58:00.560
Everybody's motivation and engine and their catalyst works differently, right?
1980
01:58:00.689 --> 01:58:05.090
So if it's getting the job done, then it's it's
1981
01:58:05.109 --> 01:58:06.069
serving its purpose.
1982
01:58:06.550 --> 01:58:12.479
Yeah, exactly. Anyway, how'd we get on this? Oh, not
1983
01:58:12.539 --> 01:58:16.699
wanting to talk about our feelings because we're a man child.
1984
01:58:17.039 --> 01:58:20.319
Right, right, right, right, right. And Dean just ends up
1985
01:58:20.359 --> 01:58:23.399
shutting all that shit down. And, and with the final
1986
01:58:23.460 --> 01:58:26.279
threat of being like, and if we don't compartmentalize, if
1987
01:58:26.319 --> 01:58:29.359
we don't push it down, we're going to end up
1988
01:58:29.380 --> 01:58:30.920
just like Martin, which.
1989
01:58:30.819 --> 01:58:32.000
Is just hilarious.
1990
01:58:33.000 --> 01:58:33.300
Yeah.
1991
01:58:33.460 --> 01:58:38.600
Like the idea that this is not exactly how Martin
1992
01:58:38.640 --> 01:58:40.880
maybe wound up where he is, that this hasn't seemed
1993
01:58:40.899 --> 01:58:46.520
to occur to him is agonizing. Like I, and in
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01:58:46.539 --> 01:58:50.479
the moment, there's a sense almost of like, Sam knows
1995
01:58:50.500 --> 01:58:54.060
good and goddamn well, this is bullshit, but he can
1996
01:58:54.140 --> 01:58:57.609
also see Dean is not going to hear anything. So
1997
01:58:57.810 --> 01:59:01.489
he just drops it because I think that's just him going, okay,
1998
01:59:01.510 --> 01:59:05.729
you know what? Obviously we're not doing this. So fine.
1999
01:59:05.770 --> 01:59:06.590
We're not doing it.
2000
01:59:07.649 --> 01:59:12.569
I think the thing that's, that scares Dean. I mean,
2001
01:59:12.649 --> 01:59:14.909
I don't know. This is me. This is not the show.
2002
01:59:14.970 --> 01:59:17.090
This is me. But the line that sticks out for
2003
01:59:17.109 --> 01:59:20.329
me the most is when Martin says, I was just
2004
01:59:20.430 --> 01:59:25.720
like you too. You know, I thought I was invincible and,
2005
01:59:26.319 --> 01:59:30.470
until I learned that I wasn't or until I wasn't
2006
01:59:30.729 --> 01:59:31.510
something like that.
2007
01:59:31.689 --> 01:59:31.989
Yeah.
2008
01:59:32.470 --> 01:59:37.869
And it's, it's, it's, it's, it's said in a way
2009
01:59:38.010 --> 01:59:43.449
of like, you know, I used to be a better hunter.
2010
01:59:43.529 --> 01:59:45.590
I used to be somebody that could do stuff like this.
2011
01:59:45.729 --> 01:59:46.850
I used to be.
2012
01:59:46.970 --> 01:59:51.189
Brash and brazen and all that stuff, but it's also
2013
01:59:52.220 --> 01:59:53.439
such a stark warning.
2014
01:59:54.060 --> 01:59:54.380
Yeah.
2015
01:59:54.720 --> 01:59:59.189
You know, it's saying that there's going to be a
2016
01:59:59.260 --> 02:00:04.039
thing that you face that's going to shake all of
2017
02:00:04.079 --> 02:00:07.260
that confidence right out of you, you know.
2018
02:00:07.539 --> 02:00:16.920
Which is like kind of, they both died. So I
2019
02:00:18.699 --> 02:00:22.289
do feel a little bit like, if that were going
2020
02:00:22.310 --> 02:00:25.130
to have happened, it probably would have happened at this point. Like,
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02:00:25.289 --> 02:00:28.189
you know, we've faced death and been there, done that.
2022
02:00:28.270 --> 02:00:31.840
And I don't know, maybe it's just something that looks
2023
02:00:31.880 --> 02:00:38.359
different for them. I don't know. It could be somebody
2024
02:00:38.380 --> 02:00:41.619
has to kill a person they love, which we have died,
2025
02:00:41.659 --> 02:00:43.279
but we haven't had to like hurt each other. So
2026
02:00:44.010 --> 02:00:45.369
maybe that's it. I don't know.
2027
02:00:45.970 --> 02:00:48.909
And they've also like, like even more so than the
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02:00:49.050 --> 02:00:53.000
average hunter, Right? Even more than a Martin. These both,
2029
02:00:53.020 --> 02:00:56.680
because they have both died, and they're both still here.
2030
02:00:57.119 --> 02:00:57.399
Yeah.
2031
02:00:58.119 --> 02:00:59.930
So that has got to make them feel once.
2032
02:00:59.939 --> 02:01:01.430
It'll fuel that. Yeah.
2033
02:01:02.060 --> 02:01:02.770
You know what I mean?
2034
02:01:02.779 --> 02:01:03.729
Mm-hmm.
2035
02:01:04.350 --> 02:01:11.770
Yeah. So, like, a normal person would probably break.
2036
02:01:11.789 --> 02:01:13.149
Mm-hmm.
2037
02:01:13.189 --> 02:01:16.989
But because they've had that happen and they're still kicking.
2038
02:01:17.010 --> 02:01:19.029
We literally got yanked out of hell.
2039
02:01:19.750 --> 02:01:19.989
Mm-hmm.
2040
02:01:21.279 --> 02:01:24.500
You know, so, so you kind of, I would imagine
2041
02:01:24.600 --> 02:01:27.460
sort of, sort of get this attitude that Dean displays
2042
02:01:27.520 --> 02:01:30.619
more than anything of like, come at me, bro.
2043
02:01:30.680 --> 02:01:31.359
What do you got?
2044
02:01:31.600 --> 02:01:33.470
You know, you, you can't tell me nothing.
2045
02:01:33.649 --> 02:01:34.689
Yeah.
2046
02:01:35.430 --> 02:01:39.630
But, and sort of, sort of minimizing that there might
2047
02:01:39.670 --> 02:01:41.109
be some things out there that can tell them a
2048
02:01:41.149 --> 02:01:47.729
thing or two. You know? Yeah. Yeah. So. So, yeah,
2049
02:01:47.859 --> 02:01:51.289
not an episode that I necessarily thought that needed to
2050
02:01:51.329 --> 02:01:53.090
be a live watch, but I think it's a good
2051
02:01:53.130 --> 02:02:00.550
enough episode. And I was wondering if you would be
2052
02:02:00.630 --> 02:02:02.210
into it or not. The reason I said I wasn't
2053
02:02:02.250 --> 02:02:04.369
sure how you'd feel about it was not because of
2054
02:02:04.430 --> 02:02:07.949
the episode itself, but because we get this and because
2055
02:02:08.010 --> 02:02:11.979
we left on a. sort of a very big moment
2056
02:02:12.000 --> 02:02:15.000
with the devil. And then we come back and remember,
2057
02:02:15.100 --> 02:02:17.779
I got, this was a season finale, mid season finale.
2058
02:02:18.159 --> 02:02:19.979
So we had to wait like two months and then
2059
02:02:20.000 --> 02:02:22.720
we get this episode, which is not picking up that
2060
02:02:22.810 --> 02:02:26.369
thread at all. So I wasn't sure if this, if
2061
02:02:26.430 --> 02:02:29.369
the episode would be interesting enough to you to like
2062
02:02:29.470 --> 02:02:31.130
make that not an issue.
2063
02:02:31.649 --> 02:02:34.649
It's funny because like, I have gotten so used to
2064
02:02:34.689 --> 02:02:36.689
this and not just with this show. There's a few
2065
02:02:36.729 --> 02:02:39.510
other things I cover as well. Where there'll be this
2066
02:02:39.670 --> 02:02:43.109
major fucking moment, and then the next episode, we almost
2067
02:02:43.149 --> 02:02:44.630
don't even talk about it, you know?
2068
02:02:44.649 --> 02:02:45.529
Mm-hmm.
2069
02:02:45.689 --> 02:02:47.829
This show is especially bad about that, though.
2070
02:02:48.170 --> 02:02:48.529
Mm-hmm.
2071
02:02:48.550 --> 02:02:51.329
And so, at this point, it's just much more like,
2072
02:02:52.210 --> 02:02:55.520
I don't expect to deal with it right away because
2073
02:02:55.560 --> 02:02:57.159
of the track record.
2074
02:02:57.619 --> 02:02:58.460
Cool. All right.
2075
02:02:58.539 --> 02:03:01.979
But it was also, like, a much more major death
2076
02:03:02.020 --> 02:03:06.300
than usual. Mm-hmm. if I had stopped to think about it,
2077
02:03:06.329 --> 02:03:08.060
maybe I would have been more like, what the fuck?
2078
02:03:08.069 --> 02:03:12.420
But I, it didn't really like even make me stop
2079
02:03:12.479 --> 02:03:13.880
and think for a second.
2080
02:03:14.039 --> 02:03:15.239
Oh, cool. Cool.
2081
02:03:15.560 --> 02:03:15.819
Yeah.
2082
02:03:16.319 --> 02:03:20.159
Well, that makes me happy.
2083
02:03:21.319 --> 02:03:25.909
Yeah. But I, is there another episode this season that
2084
02:03:25.930 --> 02:03:29.689
you wanted to have be live? Yeah. What other, or
2085
02:03:29.729 --> 02:03:31.130
anything coming up soon or?
2086
02:03:31.689 --> 02:03:35.329
I'm going to double check. I mean, so the, The
2087
02:03:35.479 --> 02:03:39.100
season finale is kind of like a twofer, like a
2088
02:03:39.159 --> 02:03:40.640
two episode kind of deal.
2089
02:03:40.779 --> 02:03:42.100
Okay.
2090
02:03:42.720 --> 02:03:44.659
So that's already two episodes that we're going to do
2091
02:03:44.699 --> 02:03:47.800
live for the end of the season. And there's a
2092
02:03:48.939 --> 02:03:53.130
couple of good ones in between. There's what I want
2093
02:03:53.210 --> 02:03:57.189
to do for funsies. So we might end up doing
2094
02:03:57.310 --> 02:04:05.170
a total of four more. I have to definitely two
2095
02:04:05.210 --> 02:04:08.149
more for like a given for the finale. And I
2096
02:04:08.189 --> 02:04:09.989
think there's two more. I want to, I want to
2097
02:04:10.029 --> 02:04:11.930
slip in there, but I got to double check the
2098
02:04:12.029 --> 02:04:16.989
episode guide and see when they come up.
2099
02:04:17.489 --> 02:04:17.750
Okay.
2100
02:04:17.909 --> 02:04:21.770
And if, if, and remind myself of the episode to
2101
02:04:21.810 --> 02:04:24.789
see if it's really, you know, if it's really worth it. Gotcha.
2102
02:04:24.890 --> 02:04:26.970
And I do want to check in on the discord too,
2103
02:04:27.050 --> 02:04:30.430
and see if there's anything particular that people want to see.
2104
02:04:31.270 --> 02:04:34.930
And maybe that will align with what I'm thinking. All right.
2105
02:04:34.970 --> 02:04:36.989
So I need to hop in there and just put
2106
02:04:37.029 --> 02:04:39.399
a little message up and tell people to do something
2107
02:04:39.409 --> 02:04:41.520
you want to see. You got to come find me
2108
02:04:41.539 --> 02:04:44.140
on Facebook and tell me.
2109
02:04:45.840 --> 02:04:47.739
All right. Well, I'm going to say hi to our
2110
02:04:47.760 --> 02:04:52.359
new patrons this week. We have got our freebies. Kyle Lawson,
2111
02:04:52.470 --> 02:04:57.069
Jeremy A. Hale, need financial help for my family.
2112
02:04:57.449 --> 02:04:57.909
Love it.
2113
02:04:58.069 --> 02:05:02.189
Jeremy Harlan, Dan S and Rob. And then our one
2114
02:05:02.369 --> 02:05:12.050
paid patron, Christine Randall. Thank you, Christine, very much for
2115
02:05:12.510 --> 02:05:16.810
supporting us and appreciate it. Like you guys know, it
2116
02:05:16.829 --> 02:05:19.149
all adds up so fast and it really is a
2117
02:05:20.050 --> 02:05:20.470
big deal.
2118
02:05:21.159 --> 02:05:24.520
It is a huge deal. It is a huge deal.
2119
02:05:25.199 --> 02:05:27.430
So Sean house, her mother.
2120
02:05:28.369 --> 02:05:33.789
Indeed. Yes. Very tangibly helps, uh, us fix the numerous
2121
02:05:33.850 --> 02:05:36.850
things wrong with our house. Despite the fact that we
2122
02:05:36.890 --> 02:05:41.109
can in fact, walk on the floor, believe it or not,
2123
02:05:41.250 --> 02:05:44.569
that's not all one might require of a floor. So,
2124
02:05:45.590 --> 02:05:50.600
you know, appreciate that as well. Um, But yeah, I
2125
02:05:50.680 --> 02:05:52.779
just hope that you guys are enjoying the stuff that
2126
02:05:52.800 --> 02:05:57.500
you get as a patron and are enjoying these lives
2127
02:05:57.600 --> 02:06:02.359
and all that stuff. So thank you all so much.
2128
02:06:02.539 --> 02:06:05.529
Those of you who joined us in the chat, we
2129
02:06:05.569 --> 02:06:10.090
had Stacy and Yamaha, April, and trying to see if
2130
02:06:10.109 --> 02:06:12.250
there's anybody that I missed. I think that's everybody. And
2131
02:06:12.289 --> 02:06:15.109
we had a huge crowd for the live. We always do.
2132
02:06:15.810 --> 02:06:18.149
Yeah, we had a nice group of people join in
2133
02:06:18.170 --> 02:06:20.310
the live watch. You always have a good number, too,
2134
02:06:20.369 --> 02:06:24.430
even when you just do them yourself. But that's a dollar, right,
2135
02:06:24.590 --> 02:06:25.550
for the lives? Yes.
2136
02:06:25.989 --> 02:06:27.329
That's a dollar here.
2137
02:06:27.789 --> 02:06:29.810
So, kids, it only takes a dollar to get in
2138
02:06:29.899 --> 02:06:30.609
on this action.
2139
02:06:30.760 --> 02:06:31.340
Yeah.
2140
02:06:31.479 --> 02:06:34.619
Not this particular action. This particular action is $ 10.
2141
02:06:34.180 --> 02:06:34.439
Yes.
2142
02:06:34.880 --> 02:06:39.380
But the other action is a dollar. Indeed.
2143
02:06:39.500 --> 02:06:39.880
Indeed.
2144
02:06:39.899 --> 02:06:41.729
But, yeah, I.
2145
02:06:44.079 --> 02:06:46.199
have been having more people turning up for a lot
2146
02:06:46.239 --> 02:06:48.060
of different lives and it has been a good time.
2147
02:06:48.840 --> 02:06:49.899
Yay.
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02:06:50.050 --> 02:06:52.210
All right, everybody. We love you very much.
2149
02:06:52.630 --> 02:06:53.149
We do.
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02:06:53.890 --> 02:06:57.829
And until next time, to the loom motherfuckers. Bye guys.
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That was an unspoiled network podcast.