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Hi, I'm an Colter. Welcome to my sub stack. I'm
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interviewing probably the best member of the House of Representatives,
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Representative Chip roy the actual MAGA representative on immigration who's
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now running for Attorney General of Texas, which I also
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want to talk to you about, but mostly immigration. Welcome
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Representative Roy.
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Well, a good morning. It's a very low bar to
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crossing Congress to be the best member of Congress, but
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I appreciate it. You know.
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One of the things that is so impressive about you,
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and maybe we'll get to that, though I really want
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to talk more about immigration, is you know, there are
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moments in history where you know, wild things are going
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on and you don't know what you should be saying
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now when how it to look in history? And I
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would say January sixth was one of those moments. Fox
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News certainly got it completely wrong, and oh my gosh,
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it every step of the way. If you could go
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back and write a history of what a politician in
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Washington should have said, at every step of the way
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you did it, it's just incredibly impressive. Starting with asking
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Meadows for the evidence. We're happy, we're happy to back
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up President Trump, but you got to give us something
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to work with, and defending Liz Cheney for to some
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extent not being thrown off simply for what her position was,
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but then going after her for turning it into looking backwards.
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But anyway, was there anyone as good as you were
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during that time? You were really pitch perfect every step
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of the way.
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Well, and you know, it was an interesting time to
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go through. And I tried to let the Constitution be
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my guide. I tried to at every step of the
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way seek truth wherever it may lead. Right, I'm a
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Jefferson guy. That's Jefferson quote. And at every step I'd say, look,
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I know there was fraud here. Of course there was.
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We turned our elections over to a mail in ballot scheme.
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No kidding, there was fraud. So that was a mistake.
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So we go through all that and say, all right,
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there was fraud, let's pursue it. Then we need the evidence.
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Let's make sure we can demonstrate that they're in fact
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a state might present different slate of electors. Okay, great,
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let's go work with the states to try to demonstrate
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where we believe there's fraud, work through the process, and
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then get to election day. Do what you think is
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right in my view, we only had fifty slates of electors.
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You got to defend the constitution. You can't just unilaterally
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empower the Vice president. And at various points in times
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the point about Liz, my opponent is attacking me for
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quote defending Liz Cheney and my race for Attorney General.
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What I said was what I was doing was try
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to defend the process and then say, Liz, you can't
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lose your frigging mind and then not represent the Republican Conference.
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So we work through a process to do that with
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then Speaker McCarthy, who I was pushing from the right,
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and at the end of the day, then Liz, continue
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to lose your mind, and I said, all right, Liz,
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we got to go get a different Republican Conference chair.
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But at every point you're trying to figure out how
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to navigate things, to try to preserve a country and
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to stand up and defend a sovereign nation under the
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rule of law and the constitution. And that's what I
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think the American people want right now. It's why running
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for Attorney general, to try to secure the border, to
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try to stop the March of Islam, to try to
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stop members of Congress, and you know, the swamp creatures
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from destroying our country and ignoring that we need to
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actually do the job that we said we would do,
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and that's what I've always tried to do.
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Yes, No, it's very impressive. I recommend that anyone go
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read your Wikipedia page for all these controversies, and if
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you could go back and write the history of Oh
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I wish I'd said that. I wish I'd been in
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that position. You did it right. They are live in
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real time. I also like how you've worked for worked
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with lots of Republicans and cross them when they were wrong,
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but then you know, defend them personally, come back and
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endorse them, as in the case of both Ted Kruz
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and Ken Paxton. No, you really are. It's very impressive
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the way you've handled your career. But let's get to
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the most important issue, immigration, About the only one I
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trust on immigration one is why? Well, probably the overarching
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question is what is it with your fellow Republicans? And
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I'd say Democrats, but forget them, your fellow Republicans not
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understanding that immigration determines every other issue. Does everyone have
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to live in Texas and California before they understand how
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the country will change if we just continue this unrestricted
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third worlder is pouring into our nation. You talk to them,
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you work with them. Is it the donors? Are they
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afraid of being seen as racist? What is it with them?
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I think there's a lot of things going on with
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your kind of radical leftists or are weak Republicans. Some
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of them do come from states where they just have
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no idea. I remember I was getting lecture by a
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member of Congress from Vermont and I was like, they're
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talking about the immigration issue, and I was like, I
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looked up the data, and you guys have like sixteen
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thousand people, you know that aren't lily livered leftist white
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people up in Vermont, And you want to lecture me
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when we've got like three or four million people in
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Texas illegally, Like it's insane. They have no idea, right.
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But the real issue, the real issue, I think has
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been that the Chamber of Commerce Republicans have been the
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driving force behind the Republican Party for at least three
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or four decades, and so it's always the default to, oh,
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but we've got to have the talent ship. We won't
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have a workforce, right, you've got to go to India,
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You've got to go to you know, the Middle East,
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you got to go to the you know, China, and guys,
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we're not going to have a country left, right Like
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in other words, it goes well beyond just the fact
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that we were being weak about the border and securing
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the border. It goes to the fact that they don't
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want to acknowledge that maybe we have a country we
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need to preserve, right And you know, I'll talk about
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how we are now at the highest percentage of foreign
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born people in the United States that we've ever had.
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We're at fifty one and a half or fifty two
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or fifty three million people. That's sixteen plus percent, and
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that's higher than even it was in nineteen twenty right
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after we'd had the massive migration late eighteen hundreds early
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nineteen hundreds. Yet we froze immigration for about four decades
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in nineteen twenty five or so, right, and then it
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was Ted Kennedy and the leftist then a bunch of
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weak Chamber of Commerce Republicans that exploded the doors after
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nineteen sixty five, and then heavily in the nineties and
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two thousands. So I just don't think people want to
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acknowledge it. They've been you know, they've been trained to say, well,
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you know, we're a boarder. We're a country that you
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know opens our doors to everyone. Well, we yes, but
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we're a country that is supposed to acknowledge sovereignty and
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that we want to preserve who we are as America
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and a Christian culture. And that's what's at stake. And
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people I think are finally waking up to it, But
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only when you've got basically jihattists coming to our country
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and there's still not a way to it.
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Yes, that's true. Speaking of keeping our doors open, I
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don't think there are any true assi LEAs in the
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world anymore. Most of them requesting asylum they just come
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from crappy countries. Well, the crappy countries because of the
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people who live in those countries. That's what they're used to.
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You bring them here, we become a crappy country. And
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even if there were another Hitler and another Holocaust going
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on someplace in the world, I don't know why they
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all need to come here. There are other countries that
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could take them out. Why don't Japan or Israel take
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a few of them?
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And this is exactly right. And this was actually what
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was so frustrating during the Biden Mayorcus years when you know,
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we had all these people coming in that were claiming
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asylum and then parole. Right, they were doing this purposely,
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and they were bastardizing our laws to show people into
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the country. But I think we've got this mistaken idea
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of asylum anyway. And you know, there's this whole concept
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of a save third country within our law, where you know,
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if you can get to the neighboring country and seek asylum,
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that's what you do. But we've been saying, oh, no,
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whatever will be the country that you just everybody can
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come to. You can go through thirty six countries to
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get here, and that's all fine, even though you were
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saved at thirty three of them along the way. And
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that has turned it into something that was never meant
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to be. And this is one of those things that
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I think drives me crazy the most because I can
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say something as a Christian, which I'm probably a Christian this,
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you know, coming out of this Holy weekend and Easter weekend,
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that yes, you've got someone, You've got a child, you
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got someone who's sick, or someone who's really fleeing oppression
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and they're on your front porch. Yes, we're called to
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help them, but what you don't do is turn your
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country over to say anybody can come here have babies.
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Let's not talk about the birthright citizens thebacle of the
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Supreme Court appears a poise to make which we should
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talk about, but that you can just anybody can come here,
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so we share. I shaired a hearing on these kinds
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of topics, and I was pressing one of the leftist witnesses,
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and I said, look, I want to be very clear.
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It's not PLYL or V do same topic. Right about
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free education for legal aliens. That's the same as birthright citizenship.
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That's the same as asylum and parole. Hey, everybody just
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come here. Don't mind to use our resources, spend our money,
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you know, marry our women, go to our hospitals, whatever
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you want. Insanity, Well, I asked this liberal. I said,
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let me ask you if there were you know they're
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about came remember the number. I said, there's a you know,
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maybe a trillion kids you know that are that are
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miners around the country. Can they all come to the
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United States tomorrow? The guys that will, of course not.
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And then I just went through it logically, five hundred billion,
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one hundred billion, a billion, you know how many can come.
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I'm not going to play your games, Congressman, It's not
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a game. You guys seem to think that anybody can
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come here have a baby, or anybody can come here,
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come to our school, and we're supposed to just educate them,
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and then you no longer have a country. That's the
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same issue with asylum, same issue with parole, birthright, citizenship,
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plalar vedo. We're either a nasian or or not. We
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have to decide.
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Yes, yes, And it's I mean that pretend we're open
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to the world, is it self discriminatory If we'll take
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all all the poor people of the world. Somehow we
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seem to be getting only those who live within walking distance.
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What about the poor who can't just walk here? Oh no, no,
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well they're on their own. And that's kind of a
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weird way to decide who gets to be your fellow citizen.
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Well, and importantly, what we're also doing is we're destroying
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a lot of other countries, right I remember, I think
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of in the Northern Triangle, one of the think was
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the first lady of I can't remember which country it was,
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but said, hey, you know, we're losing a lot of
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our people to America and we need to build our
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own country. I'm like, yes, we ought to be projecting
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power in the Western hemisphere and projecting and gay in
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the rule of law rather than saying, oh, that's okay,
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we don't have any doors, walk on in, because we're
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destroying countries in the process of saying that, we're trying
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to quote help people. And by the way, you're helping
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them by coming here making the wards of the state.
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I mean, that's it's insanity. That's not helping people. You know. Look,
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Milton Friedman famously said he was fine with open borders
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if you don't have a welfare state. Well, there are
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reasons why I would quibble with that, right Islam, other things,
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but in general, the point is right, right, if you
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don't have a welfare state and you have to make
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your own way, fine, I'm pretty I'm a lot more
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flexible and saying you want to come here and work hard, Okay,
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I'm listening, But we have a welfare state and we
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have you know, islam As who want to kill us,
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color me crazy. I think maybe we should keep that,
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you know crazy, you know Muslims out who are coming
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here or trying to kill us, and we should actually,
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you know, not invite people to come join a welfare
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state and have to carry the bill.
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Yes, yes, And not surprisingly Pwiler was a Texas case
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about whether Texans would have to keep paying for the
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free education of illegal aliens. Of course these cases come
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out of Texas and California. Y're the first ones. I mean,
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do people in Vermont and I don't know, tenth District
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of Kentucky. Your friend Thomas mass or whatever district he's from,
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is also one of those nineteen fifties demographic congressional districts.
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Ask you about him in a moment? Do they have
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do they not know anyone in Texas or California? Can
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they call them and ask how's it working out? And
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it was im pliler video, as you surely know. That's
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where Justice Brennan dropped the dicta not part of the
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ruling of the case, saying I see no difference in
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legal and illegal immigrants. And that's what led to what
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they're called birthright citizenship, which is really anchor babies, not
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birthright citizenship, birthright citizenship would be the children of legal aliens,
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and you know that's the big issue in the Supreme
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Court case. I listened to the argument again recently in
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the Supreme courtans it's not about our but I wish
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both Attorney General John Sower and I guess our side
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would stress the points that there weren't There wasn't an
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illegal immigration problem back then. It would be like, you know,
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trying to figure out how we would deal with I
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don't know, computer viruses or something after the Civil War.
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But they were the facts that in the case they're
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all looking to Wang King kim Ark, which was the
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child of a legal immigrant. They used the word domicile
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so much. Well, they wouldn't have used the word illegal
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alien because that expression didn't exist back then. It was
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what you're describing sink or swim, no welfare state, you
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can't make it, you go home. And I actually think
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sours argument was was pretty good in retrospect. I was
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kind of confused at the time because this whole domicile
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thing is trying to distinguish between legal and illegal immigrants.
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But I just don't think the point is being stressed
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enough that no, it was never expressly stated because it
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didn't exist. But when Justice run and slipped that dicta in,
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it wasn't the rule that the children of illegal aliens
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were citizens. That's why he snuck it in there. Otherwise
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there couldn't even have been the case, Bler Beado. But
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you surely listened to the audient. What did you think
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of it?
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So in general, I mean I could and I could.
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I could go through this for a two hour segment, right,
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but let's let's just kind of get into the summary.
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I thought that when sour and when I think the
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case that the that the government was making, I think
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that led to I guess it was Kataji Brown Jackson's
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absurd japan Wallet, you know, line of questioning, which was
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ridiculous because he was basically, you know, trying to make
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I think a cogent case. And then the other issue
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that bothered me was when he said what he said
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about people can fly to our country to your point
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about illegal aliens, and then John Roberts says, yeah, but
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you know it's still the same constitution. Well, hold on,
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that's not the point. The point is we didn't have
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an entire machine dedicated to moving line some masses of
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people as a legal aliens and then coming here to
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have babies on our soil in that time period, as
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we do now. But here's what I wish that the
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government had stressed further, the absurdity of if you just
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had twenty million Chinese Communist mothers show up tomorrow pregnant
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with babies, and they had the babies on our soil tomorrow,
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you mean to tell me we suddenly have twenty million
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Chinese Communist babies because that's what the fourteenth heat Amendment meant.
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That's just clearly false. The fourteenth Amendment was to deal
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with slavery, So I wish we'd have made that argument
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a little bit more clear. When i've the amicus brief
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that I filed that a great appellate lawyer named Chuck
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Cooper worked with us on and Eric Schmid, who's the
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chair of the Subcommittee Constitution in the Senate. The three
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of us filed this brief. We were trying to really
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focus in obviously on subject to the jurisdiction thereof, and
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really highlight that issue and that important aspect of the
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fourteenth Amendment, because it gets to the heart of what
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the purpose of the fourteenth Amendment was about and like
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we can nerd out on the law here, but for
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everybody listening, it's so really important that we get this
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right or we literally, I don't think, have a country anymore.
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And if the court is going to side with the
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idea that the absurd example I gave that if twenty million,
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but it's not that absurd. If twenty million people come
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here and moms and have babies, bam, you have twenty
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million citizens that are now get they're citizens of China
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and the United States. That's clearly wrong. So I don't
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understand where Roberts and Amy Cody Barrett and a couple
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who seemed to be indicating that they were going to
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go you know, against the president's executive order. I don't
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know where they want to try to set the line.
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There's some line of DOMICILEI you're talking about this as well,
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that wouldn't be it. But if you're here, but you
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live here and you set up and you own a
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house because you came here illegally ten years ago, and
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then you have a kid, well, now you're just making
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crap up in the court instead of us setting a
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bright line. You're born of citizens and you're subject to
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the jurisdiction of the United States, then you're a citizen.
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Otherwise you should be naturalized. Anyway, we'll have to keep
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fighting and working through it, depending on what the court does.
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You know, that was a nineteen eighty two case, and
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you know, if you go back and look at the law,
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the court was basically acknowledging that they thought it was
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kind of ridiculous, but even in their own words, like
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in what they were acknowledging and saying in the case.
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But the court at that time, remember that was the
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same court that had decided Row ten years earlier in Texas,
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by the way, and you know, and it set this
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completely ridiculous notion that somehow the constitution says that if
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you're an illegal alien child and you can be deported,
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which under a law you could be deported. Nevertheless, a
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Texas taxpayer has to pay for that child's education. And
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the court basically acknowledge, oh, yeah, you could be deported,
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but oh, by the way, we just think it would
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be bad. We just think it would be wrong if
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you don't educate the child. Where in the hell is
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that in the constitution. It's not, And that's what we're
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dealing with.
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Yes, yes boy judges and Supreme Court wreck a country
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in the war in court or those years certainly showed it.
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I know what you reminded me of, Yeah, I guess,
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Amy Coney Barrett. I'm worried about and I'm also worried
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about Roberts for that insane done a ruling that Roberts gave.
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They acknowledge that Obama issues a completely illegal executive order
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allowing illegal aliens to Dreamers. I want the dreamers to
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go first, by the way. I want them gone before
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the felons. They're here illegally and they're obnoxious and stamping
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their feet. Now, dare you not give us amnesty? No?
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I want them gone for obnoxious. But anyway, he for
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the Dreamers, he says, we're going to give you work
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permits and you know the equivalent of a citizenship card.
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After saying over and over and over again to illegal aliens,
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I can't do anything. Congress has to pass the law.
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Congress didn't and wouldn't pass such a law. And then
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Trump comes in and overturns what Roberts acknowledges was an
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illegal executive order, which he overturns by executive order, and
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Roberts finds, Nope, can't do that. No, you can issue
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the illegal executive order, but you can't overturn an illegal
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executive order with an executive order. It's utter, complete madness.
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And if he'll do that with Dreamers, we have to
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hope Katanji Brown Jackson cares about the Civil War, the
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fact that the Fourteenth Amendment was entirely about freed slaves.
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Well, well, I'm glad you mentioned that. It's a really
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important argument. And when I was the first assistant Attorney General,
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we were arguing, DAPPA right, DAPA, that's right, and that
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because that was our foray into the arguments. At the
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point in time, I got to remember exactly why that
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the batting order was was what it was. But we
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were setting up the stage for the DACA fight. Leaning
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into the case, I think where we had to strut
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the strongest case and parents, right, that's correct. And deferred
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action for parents. People don't know what the acronyms mean, right,
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deferred actions for these these children that the that the
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Obama administration just manufacturer had a thin air, then this
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was a okay. And if you're the parents of these children, right,
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it's what they always do that it's just like, oh, well,
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it's you know, we're gonna do one the little thing,
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and then we're gonna do another, and then do another,
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and we're making it all up as we go. Well,
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we won that case, right, the Dappa case, and it
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was very clear that it was a erroneous order by
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the president and that it wasn't enforceable. And then you know,
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fast forward your point about the arguments on on on DACA.
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You know, the problem is is when you have a
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court in the case of the Roberts Court, where you know,
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Roberts I think wants to is concerned about the legacy
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of the court. Right, When when that's your driving motivation,
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that's a problem. And I think that's what we solve
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with the saving Obamacare by calling it attacks, right, not
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a mandate. That's that's when you're dangerous. When when a
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judge is going to say, well, I know what's right here,
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but you know there are bigger things at play, and
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so we, the geniuses and rogues, are going to have
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to come in and be the adults to solve the problem.
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That's not at all what you're supposed to do. You're
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supposed to literally just look at the law and say
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what it is and then make the ruling. And had
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we done that with Obamacare, then we could have gone
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back to the Congress and fought it out. Had had
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we done this with Dappa and Dhaka, you know, you
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know we were successful at DAPPA, but had the had
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Chief Justice Roberts not done that, you know, we need
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to have a much more thorough understanding with the American
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people that the president cannot just unilaterally declare people status.
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You just can't do that contrary law. And that's what
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we need to be very clear about. And as Attorney General,
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I mean that's what I'll be fighting. Like Pylo Bido,
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we've not had to fight. We need to have it.
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Let's go at that fight. We need to keep fighting
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on birthright no matter what the Court does. If they
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get it wrong, we're going to go find other angles.
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Who fight it more. I don't accept that because some
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one court makes a bad decision, Well you're just stuck
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with it for one hundred years and then we'll just
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then maybe maybe you can reconsider precedent. That's ridiculous. We've
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got to fight everything right now.
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Yeah, they're so into precedent, and the precedent is overwhelming
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that the Fourteenth Amendment, at least the citizenship clause refers
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only to freed slaves. It's just that later case that
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applied to the Chinese child of Chinese legal immigrants. But
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I mean, the distinction in everyone's head is legal illegal.
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They just didn't use the word illegal anyway. One thing
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I also wanted to bring up was why are you
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one of the few guys who wanted to do the
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correct thing and impeach Homeland Security Secretary Ale jend the
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rule of my orcs. I thought it was so stupid, impeaching,
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trying to impeach big and it's not going to go
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any place. It's going to die. But myorcus, oh my gosh,
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he was violating federal I want him. Try maybe as
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Attorney general you could do that. Try him as an
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accessory to murder thousands upon thousands of mergers. But I mean,
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as you know, and I think much of the public doesn't,
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he was openly violating written federal law. You even if
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it's illegal, Assi Lee, and none of them are genuine assilies,
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you have to detain them. No, they're all just being processed,
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process processed, just open violation of our laws. Flying the man.
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If any cabinet official ever deserved to be impeached, why
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didn't that go any place? Why didn't all Republicans see
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he's the guy we need, we need to impeach.
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So in that in that summer, remember which year that was,
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Let's see the twenty third, twenty twenty one, maybe I
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can't remember. At the height of all of that, I
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was the first call Forer's impeachment. Wrote an entire case,
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like a whole memo outlining why he should be impeached.
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And there were multiple points in the argument. My good
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friend Andy Biggs, he's running for governor in Arizona, and
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he was also a champion of this very early to
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give credit words due and we leaned in hard, but
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we couldn't get the numbers we needed right, We forced
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the question at one point fell short. Then we're ultimately
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able to get the numbers and get him impeached, but
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it took two years of working at it to get
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it there. My argument was pretty simple one. He was
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very clearly violating our laws for an intentional policy choice
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of flooding our country with people from around the world
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in the false name of asylum, false name of parole
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and compassion. Literally, parole is supposed to be a singularly
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focused policy for one person for special cases. They were
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parolling thousands of people via an app and there was
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no basis in law to do it. That was endangering
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the American people. So he was not just negligent, but
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he was not even just wilfully blind. I mean he
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was literally orchestrating the conspiracy against our lause. And furthermore,
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he lied to me under oath when I pressed him
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on these questions, when he was sitting in front of
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me in the House is Shary Committee, and he would
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explicitly lie about the impact of these The border secure,
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we have it secure, Like I'm literally on the phone
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with border patrol right now. It's not secure, man. And
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the idea that we would not impeach somebody like that
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is absurd. We probably had about ten Republicans to go, well, Chip,
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you know, high crimes and misdemeanors, and they start arguing
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this arcane absurdity out of the Constitution and the truth.
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And look, by the way, I'm obviously I'll go to
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great pains at my own expense to remain faithful and
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fidelity to the Constitution. But I think it is a
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wrongheaded reading to not look at what the impeachment clauses
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were about. To say that if you're undermining the sovereignty, security,
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safety and well being of the American people, and you're
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the Secretary of Homeland Security and you're purposely making us
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less safe, that somehow that's not a high crime and misdemeanor,
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a violation of the public trust. Of course, he can
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be impeached. And as I said, he lied to me
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on the road, so we bought it. We got it.
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We obviously got him impeached. We weren't able to get
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him convicted, but it was an important and important statement
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and message to the world, and I was happy to
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lead that effort.
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Yeah, I just couldn't understand why they bothered with the
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impeachment of BIB And that's that's for Twitter. The impeachment
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of my orcis. So that's going to be one of
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my tasks for you if when you become a journey
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General of Texas, because I happen to notice Texas is
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pretty aggressive about prosecuting accessories to murder, giving them the
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death penalty.
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Well, I think and one of the things that I
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think matters when we go back and look at all
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of this, it's all going to be tied back. Every
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question you've asked is all going to ultimately be tied
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back to the march of Islam across our country. And
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so everything that my orchest did, everything that happened in
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that administration, everything that we talked about impliler on birthright citizenship,
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everything we've talked about about the Chamber of Commerce, Republicans
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not understanding it, all of those issues tied back to
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one primary issue. If we don't stop the march of
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Islam into our country, we will not have a country.
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That's it Paris, London, It's coming here. We see it
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happening here. I'm Donnie Dearborn. You know, we were seeing
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it in Dallas and all these issues. So that's one
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of the reasons I'm so animated by this and happened
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for a number of years. As I've been watching the confluence,
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so many of these people are like, oh, but it's
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just about you know that Mexican wants to come here
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and work and you know, come get a job, Because
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that's not what it's about. It's about something much greater
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and much bigger than that.
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And what we're sorrying about the Mexicans? What's that in
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I'm more worried about the Mexicans because the numbers are
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just so enormous. We're turning ourselves into another failed Latin
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American country. And I can't tell you how much I
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wish one tenth of the firepower we're using on a
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row we're being used against the Mexican drug cartels. I
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mean they kill about one hundred thousand Americans every year
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in America. How many Iranians? How many Americans have Iranians
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killed every year for the past oh twenty twenty years,
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Like the Mexican drug cartels, that's whom we should be
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declaring war against. It's this Americans have this weird instinct
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that that we can't do anything that's good for America.
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No since since since the drug cartels are only killing
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Americans well, we can't do that. We have we have
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to go clean up the Middle East, someplace that is
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not killing Americans, at least not in America.
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But it looks like, well, I think we're we agree
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in that. You know. One of the first things I
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did in twenty nineteen was to make a put forward
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legislation to designate cartels as terrorist organizations, which is ultimately
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something the President's signed an executive war on a year ago.
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Because I had so many members of Congress who're like, ship,
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we can't do that, because you know, we got other
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things that are they're real terrorist organizations. What do you
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mean real terrorist organizations? These people are cutting people's heads
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off and making us in danger, to putting fentanyl into
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our communities and like running gangs and cartels up into Texas.
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Of course they're a terrorist organization, which you could take
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them out and treat them as such. And look, I
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think I do think this administration is serious about that,
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and part of the operation of Venezuela was dedicated to
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that task. I think we need to be much more
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aggressive in Mexico. I'm a Western hemisphere guy. I think
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we need to focus on the Western hemisphere and figure
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out how to root out all the terror activities and
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so forth. And my main point about Islam is one
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predominantly because I've been very public about my suspicion about
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a two hundred billion dollars blank check about not putting
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ground troops on the ground and so forth in what's
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going on in the Middle East. But my biggest issue
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is is the legal immigration system. We're importing people here
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who don't love America, okay, from all walks of life,
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and the growth of Islam in Texas is one of
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those byproducts. And just for everybody listening out there, it's
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all of this bine. You're going to lose your country
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if you don't have a border and if you don't
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stop imboarding people who don't share your values. Whether there's
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two million people rooting for Mexicans in the World Cup
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or rooting for you know, all the other countries. When
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you've got the World Baseball Classic here, you've got a
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stadium full of people in an American stadium rooting for
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the other team. I think you've got a pretty good
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idea of the problem you have here. That's true from
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that standpoint as well as from the March of Islam.
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Do you know how many mosques there are in Texas?
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Three hundred, three hundred and thirty and growing. There's more
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being built in Texas every year than any other state.
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Wow. Okay, that's an important issue for you. Also, I
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loved I think I just mentioned. Although we're always saying
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the right thing at each moment. Although you did call
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for Ken Paxton's resignation when when he fired staffers instead
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of I don't know, owning up to bribery or whatever
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it was, even endorsed him for the Senate. Now am
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I right on that? Well?
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I've said that I'm good with with with Ken, and
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we've we've kind of made amends and moving forward. We
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neither one of us have endorsed each other, but it's
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you know, we're all working together and trying to get
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elected and get through this, you know, make sure we
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beat Democrats here in Texas. And you know, look, Ken
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and I move move forward, and we're working together and
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how we can represent Texas. So we're important.
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One of the great things about him that I hope
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you will continue as AG. I had an injuryw with
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Chris Koeback AG of Kansas a week or two ago,
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and I know Chris Paxton spearheaded which Kobac followed very
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quickly with asking Department of Homeland Security for lists of
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illegal aliens in their states so they could to help
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them purge the voters roles of illegal aliens. And by
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the way, breaking the law like voting illegally, using home
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and Social Security card, illegally crossing the border illegally, those
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would very clearly be contradictory to domicile, which is why
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I think General Souer was stressing that so much domicile
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is a synonym for illegal. Paxton has been pretty good
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on immigration.
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It's been very good. I mean the reason that I
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was delighted to work for Ken when I was a
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first assistant and we built a great team and went
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to war. Was because of our very much in line ideology.
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I'll say this. He's been advocating for the Save America Act,
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which I authored obviously in the House representatives of Mike
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Lee in the Senate. The Save America Act, it gets
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right to the heart that people say, oh, you're going
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to have these owners requirements to check citizenship. It's like, well,
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give me a break. I mean, this is ridiculous. But
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it's a good bill on voter idea in that. But
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the part that people don't understand is that we clean
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up the mess that the courts created on the state's
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ability to check voter roles, because right now there are
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restrictions and limitations that were put in place by judges
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limiting the state's ability to check the voter roles. Arizona,
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for example, has two different systems, one for state law,
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one for federal where they check the voter rules for state.
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They don't for federal because of those limitations.
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So what are the limitations. I didn't realize that.
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Well, what the court came in and said was that,
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I guess under the what was it, the MVRA from
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nineteen ninety whatever, it was ninety five or six that
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the way it was interpreted by the courts was a
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limitation on your ability to check the voter roles when
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you're running the database against it for your elections in
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the state. So the state says, hey, we want to
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check them. This was a limit on that. So the
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Save America had cleans that up and says that is
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not the case. We not only want to get rid
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of that barrier, we want to require states and the
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federal government to check the voter rolls so that you
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know that everyone is a citizen that is voting, in
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addition to the other requirements we put in place. I'll
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send you the details on that, but it's absurd.
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One question I have about the Save Act, which seems
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like a legit complaint, and maybe this is fake news,
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but that a woman who's gotten married takes her husband's name,
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her birth certificate won't have her married name, has to
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go dig up the marriage certificate, go back in and
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present it and I don't know. I mean, I guess
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it's not an insuper bowl burden, but it does seem
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a little annoying.
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So the way we handled that was we put in
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place whatever the states want to do to be able
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to make it to where whatever you have to do
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when you want to prove citizenship. So let's take a
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step back. We don't change anything. If your exist, if
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you're already registered, you can go vote. It's when you
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have a life changing event, whatever it is, if you move,
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you know, yes, you get married, divorce, whatever, and you
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got to go what you have to do anyway, right,
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you got to go change all your paperwork with a state.
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When you do that, you just have to take that
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extra level of documentation to demonstrate citizenship. And we added
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a clause in their end, which I think should be
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the one that takes care of it, which says a
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state must allow a woman, or really doesn't say woman,
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a person to sign an affidavit that just says I'm
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the same person. So I'm Sarah Smith on my birth certificate,
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I'm Sarah Jones on my driver's license. I'm the same person. Done,
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and that's under penalty perjury. But what that does is
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enables anybody to do it in a one step process.
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So if you can't, if you don't have a passport,
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if you can't find your old license, just go to
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the DMB. You sign up to register to vote, and
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your citizenship. All you're doing is saying I'm the same
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person and I'm signing it under penalty perjury. Then if
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we get people trying to do it for fraud, we
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can go back and go after them because they signed it.
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That's all we do.
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Right, Well, that's an important clarification that, weirdly I haven't
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heard on CNN or MS. Now, Okay, I'm going to
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let you go soon. I know you have an important
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campaign to run, But I have one last important question
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that is just something that's always driven me crazy about
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the way we talk about illegal immigration. So, for example,
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under Biden, you know, on a particular year, first year,
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I think two point seven encounters at the border something
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like that with illegal aliens. But then they always act
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they anyone who talks about this, the border patrol, politicians,
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everyone just axcepts some absolute definite number for the quote
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got aways, i e. The ones who slipped in past
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the border patrol. Well, if they slipped in past the
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border patrol, how do we know it's exactly seven hundred thousand.
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How do we know it's not ten millions slipped in past?
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The way they got away is the point?
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Yeah, this is one of those questions that I've always
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especially in the height of the crisis two three, four
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years ago, that's what I would go out and say, guys,
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we have no idea. What we have our estimates that
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border patrol and good faith. You know, my friends down
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there that are all working on it, they'll look at cameras,
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they at somebody's job, they check it right and say, well,
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we saw thirty six go across that camera spot. You know,
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we've got to work you know. Then they try to
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go on, are those the same people? Because the camera
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will catch a mirror and then over there. So they
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do an estimate, and that's all they can do. So
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there's no way to really know for sure, especially where
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cameras aren't working wherever they're crossing. So that's one of
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those things that I think people don't know. And I
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got to say right now, and with all due respect,
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and by the way, you know, this administration border patrol,
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they're doing a great job. They're doing what they're supposed
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to be doing. But you can always do more. Right
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and right now, we can't get good answers on all right,
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how many gudaways are there right now? How many get
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you know, we're trying to push to say, as good
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as it is now, I know there's still people sneaking
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into our country, and so we're trying to press for
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that as we're supposed to do, and people have no
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under no idea in understanding now bad at how wide
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open the border was. But importantly this part what you
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brought up rightly on asylum and parole. When you're basically
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inviting people here and saying that we're going to allow
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you to come in. You can have a wall that's
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a an on four efens for a wall, let me
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be clear, but you can have one from the Gulf
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America to the Pacific. But if you're opening the door
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and saying asylum and parole, then it's all academic. That's
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why I drafted HR two. I actually drafted a bill
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that was better than HR two, but Tony Gonzalez through
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a fit. So we worked through and got a bill
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that was pretty much ninety percent of it in HR two.
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And that was a part of the speaker deal. Remember
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that we had that big fight on the floor of
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the House and everybody's like, Chip, you're going to cost
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us the speakership. It's like, no, we're not calm down.
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We worked out a deal. We got HR two as
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a part of that agreement. We need to pass that again.
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Now we're eighteen months into this Congress. For sixteen months,
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why haven't we passed HR two. Let's send another message
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that we want to codify all of the things the
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president's doing on an asylum, on parole, on you know, catcher,
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release flores, all that stuff we got to fix because
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once you get another Democrat in there, they're going to
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abuse it and put people into our country and then
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you're back to square one. So we got to do
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it now.
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Well. Also, Republicans majority days as a majority are dwindling fast,
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and I mean, I can't believe thun can't get more
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of this through. There's got to be some way to
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do this. This is like first term where we're about
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to lose a majority in the House and very slight
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majority in the Senate, but by the majority speaking, which
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I lied. I do have another question. Do you know
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how much of the wall has been built?
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No, don't. I don't have an estimate on the miles.
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I'll get you an answer on that because I'm due
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to go catch up. I know they're making progress, but
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I have no idea what the mileage is at the moment,
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I should know. I'll find out.
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We really need to light a fire under the president
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on that the first week of the Iran war could
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have built the entire eleven billion dollar wall across two
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thousand miles. It's enough of this off.
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Well. I do think your point about the Senate is
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really important on all of this, whether it's wall building,
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whether it's getting the border secure, whether it's what we're
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trying to push them on on Save America, and then
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now DHS funding. Like I'm fighting these guys because I
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don't believe we should isolate border patrol and ice in
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this DHS funding bill. I just disagree. I would take
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the entire DHS package, put it in a reconciliation bill,
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send it back over the Senate that fund it for
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the rest of the president's term. Stick my middle finger
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up at Democrats and say, we have funded every single
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ounce of this for the next three years. But what
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I wouldn't do is isolate border patrol and ice out
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of some hope that we might fund them. It's the
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most biggest It's.
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Explain that more because that was one of the dumbest
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things that fun did. I've ever ever seen a politician do.
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As everyone knows, Democrats don't want to fund ICE. It's
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much like they're defund the police. They want they want
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illegal to have more rights than US citizens do. And
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immigration enforcement is part of DHS. But of course that's
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also well TSA, as we've all found out. So House
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passes it's bill and then it goes over to the Senate.
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Now explain what idiot Boyfoon did or however you want
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to refer to him.
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Yeah, so we the House have passed full funding of
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DHS four times and Senate to the Senate. The Senate
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is getting obstructed because of the sixty vote threshold that
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they can't get due to fund it because Democrats won't
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won't fund ICE and border patrol components of DHS. Let
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me back up for a minute. I didn't want to
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isolate DHS back in February. I argued with the administration
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and the Senators and my own leadership. Once you do that,
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they're going to now zero in and try to gut
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all the things we want out of DHS. I sucked
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it up as a team player. I voted for the
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approaches that didn't include DHS. While I was complaining the
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whole time, and now here they are trying to isolate
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Ice and border patrol. So last week or two weeks here,
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whatever that was, they tried to jam us by sending
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through the bill the just approaches with no Ice and
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border patrol. It's don't worry, we'll fund it. Late said no,
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that's ridiculous. So we fought. We stayed. You know, I
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skipped my seedback thing and whatever. It didn't come home
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in campaign. I stayed an extra day and a half
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to fight it, and God blessed the Speaker. We said no,
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screw to you. We took it and sent full funding back. Unfortunately,
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over the last week they've all said, well, now we'll
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do it the smart way and we'll try to get
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it done, and we'll do it as we'll get border
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patrol and ice done through reconciliation at the same time
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as we moved the appropriations bill. I still oppose it
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because I mean, look, if we get that out of it,
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at least it's something that will get it funded first
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for three years. I'll take that as at least a
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small win compared to what they were going to do.
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But I still don't want to isolate it. On principle.
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I don't want to send a message to American people.
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I think that's wrong. We ran on this own it.
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Take the entirety of DHS, send it over the Senate,
846
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make them have to pass it as a package. Well, Chip,
847
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it will take too long. It's complex and committees. These
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guys would have gotten on the boats, gone to Normandy,
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looked up at the cliffs and said, there are clips.
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I guess we've got to turn around. It's just it's extraordinary.
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So we're working on it. I'm going to keep fighting
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for it. Hell, I would send DHS and Defense in
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one package. Get's idea, and then say, you know what,
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if you've got then if we have a shutdown, we're
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just shutting down the stupid Department of Education. Who cares?
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You know? So well, we'll keep fighting over the next
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couple of weeks and see what happens.
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Yes, that's great. No, you're a very good strategist, and
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I guess this isn't one of those tough interviews where
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you can show your genius. Because I'm a huge supporter
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of yours and I wish you the best of luck
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in the Attorney General's race. Thanks for coming on Representative
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Roy Well.
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Thanks Anne god bless Ricochet. Join the conversation.