"Re-Release" Stuff, Sentiment & “It’s Fine!” Parenting, Presents & the Psychology of Clutter

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Welcome back, guys. I am so excited to talk to
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you. I know that the last episode, we had a wonderful
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time after my party. I was so thankful, and I
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know I said this there, but I'm always so thankful
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that people want to talk. But it was just so
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special to have such important people all be
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together at the same time, all have at least
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an hour to kind of just carve out, just to kind
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of just talk and just kind of vibe with each
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other that we don't get to do necessarily in
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a group. It's a lot of one -on -ones or smaller
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groups. So that was super, super fun. And if
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you like, subscribe and follow, I'm sure you
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got to hear that episode. And that was great.
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But today we're just going to talk about a few
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things. I am going to talk about a situation,
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a work situation, organizing, you know, kind
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of mindset situation. But of course, I'm going
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to give you an update on what's going on in the
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world of Charlotte and parenting and all the
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things, you know, Charlotte has, she's had all
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these little plays. She wants to do everything
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I think I have mentioned before. And I want her
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to try everything once. If she wants to try art,
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let's do it. You know, especially if it's a free
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class, that's even better. Let's try gymnastics.
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Let's try, you know, soccer. Okay, no, yes. And
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some of the things she just wants to do everything.
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And the one nice thing about her school, and
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I'm sure a lot of schools have this, is they
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have these little like kind of enrichment programs
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that are actually. right after school for like
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an hour, like they had a science, like a STEM
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one. They have some theater and, you know, choir
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and stuff like that where you don't have to like,
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it's not a separate thing. But now all the performances
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for, she's in two theater things, one outside
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of her school and one inside of her school. Then
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she's in choir. So right around, right before
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Thanksgiving. or even before then was she had
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a program for fall it was a singing program like
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on a Thursday and then four days later on Tuesday
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they are like oh now we're going to do the Christmas
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sing -along choir thing it was like four days
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later I'm like we haven't even had Thanksgiving
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so it's like crazy and you know it's like you
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got to get tickets and grandparents and it's
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this and it's all this chaos for like you know
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an hour of performing but it's so special and
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Charlotte has such a She has such a special bond
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with my mom that I've talked about a lot. And
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one of the things that makes me, I've always
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been a very emotional person. I'm always, but
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with Charlotte, I feel all the feels even more.
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And what's really special is my mom was a single
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mom. And, you know, up until I was about eight
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years old, it was, you know, just kind of my
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mom and just, you know, her working two jobs.
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And, you know, just I hung out with my grandma.
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I didn't see that side of my mom. And seeing
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her with Charlotte and, you know, my mom lives
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in San Diego and she's coming up, you know, for
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the play or the program. And I told my mom, just
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pick one. Just pick one that you want to go to.
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You don't have to drive up and back for both.
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And she, my mom's, Charlotte was like heartbroken
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if she wasn't going to come and was like crying.
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She's like, I just want grandma to be there.
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And it's just, you know, so of course I tell
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my mom, I'm like, listen, I can make up something.
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But, you know, she is going to talk to you about
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it. And my mom's like, I can't say no to this
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little girl. So it's just really special. And
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then she has a program this week for theater
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at her school. And then in like two weeks is
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her other theater one. And then we're just like.
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geez louise so much going on and trying to get
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it to work out but i just love the relationship
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they have um you know my mom would always you
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know i'm an only child and my mom would joke
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with me about you know i'm everything and this
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and that and now charlotte's come along and grandma
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you know my mom had told her you know, Charlotte,
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you're my number one. And I'm like, hold up a
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minute. Like I was here first. Like I'm the number
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one. What are you talking about? So Charlotte
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and my mom made this like song. And when we went
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there for Thanksgiving, we went down to my mom's
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this year and she's like singing this song about
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mommy, I'm the number one. And she had like a
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little, like a little stuffed animal that had
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like a number one on it. And she, you know, just,
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it's really cute and it's really special. And
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those are the things that are. so important.
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And they just mean a lot to me. I just, I didn't
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see my mom through that lens. You know, I see
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her now through that lens and it's, it's really
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special, the relationship that they have and
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the time that my mom, you know, you know, there,
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there are some grandparents that are, you know,
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maybe not as active in, you know, just my mom
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takes her to Legoland. My mom takes her to Dave
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and Buster's. My mom takes her on and, you know,
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they go shopping, they do whatever they do, whatever
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they do, you know, my mom's just not just sitting
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around and It's fun, and it's really special
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to see. So we went down there. We went down to
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my mom's for Thanksgiving, and Charlotte was
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kind of razzing me about, I'm no longer the number
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one. Mommy, you're not the number one anymore.
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Grandma says I'm number one, and I'm the most
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important peanut in the whole world. And I just
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am like, no way. There's no take -backsies, Mom.
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You can't take it back. You've told me this my
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whole life. You can't take it back. Anyways,
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those are just some special moments. And if you
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got, you know, you guys had a great Thanksgiving
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and, you know, spending it with family or just
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even if it's a small family, we have a very small
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family. And it's just pretty special, those kind
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of moments. And I hope you guys got to enjoy
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that. But yeah, she has all these programs and
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shows and we're trying to, what are the times?
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What are the dates like getting? It's like I
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need a whole just job of supporting Charlotte's
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schedule and her. taxi service, her Uber service
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that I am. And I'm sure a lot of you parents
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can relate because most of you have multiple
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kids and, you know, they want to do 50 million
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things. So Charlotte wants to do 50 million things
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and it's one and I work and David works and it's
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hard. I can only imagine both parents working
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and, you know, trying to do 50 million things
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times three or four kids. Like, shoot me is really
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what I think. But yeah, so anyways, I hope everyone
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had a great Thanksgiving. I did not do any Black
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Friday shopping. I looked online a couple of
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things, but I just don't care. I feel like as
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we get older, it's hard during the holidays,
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like Christmas and stuff, we always feel like
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we need gifts. We need to give gifts. We need
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to give gifts. And I'm not saying they're not
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appreciated, but there's so many things that
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most of us just buy when we want it. you're going
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to go and see something or you found a jacket
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or you're going to get shoes or you're going
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to buy plane tickets. Like you buy them when
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you see them, you want them. You don't wait till
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Christmas. It's not like when you're little,
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you know? So it's hard because I have a lot of,
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and this is going to kind of tie into. some organizing
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world that I'm in and I love, but I just love
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kind of dissecting the mental aspect of it. But,
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you know, I've helped so many people, but a couple
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of my friends, my really good friends, I've also
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helped. And you got to see Veronica on the group,
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but she mentioned something that was really interesting
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when I helped her one time. She had all of this,
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her guest room had all these like bags and, you
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know, just bags of stuff. And it was like candles
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and shower gels and, you know, notebooks and
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journals. And I was like, what, why do you have
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all this stuff? Makeup and, you know, just stuff
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like that. Like, you know, just stuff that you
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get people. And she's like, this is what everyone
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gives me. People from the office, candles or
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coffee mugs or, and it's all those things that
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you think of somebody and you give it to them.
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And I'm not taking away from that. But sometimes
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it's like she was like, I don't even know what
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to do with all this because I wouldn't even use
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all of this stuff. Like I don't write in journals,
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but it's so nice to have. And I appreciate the
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gift. A lot of times we get some of those things
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and then you have a house of those things, right?
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And I was asking her, you know, what do you do?
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Do you re -gift them? Do you donate them? And
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she does donate them. But she's like, I just
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don't, you know, I don't really burn candles.
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So everybody gives candles. I love candles, but
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I don't burn them as much as I would. In my head,
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I do. In my head, I'm burning a whole room of
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candles like I'm doing a seance or something.
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Once in a blue moon, I'll be like, I should light
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this candle because it kind of smells like, you
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know, dog, wet dog. But we get candles and abundance
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of candles. And, you know, as the holidays are
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approaching, too, you know, they give you the
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teacher's list of what the teacher likes. And,
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you know, it's like. you know gift cards and
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sometimes there's some you know special you know
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restaurants they like or whatever because what
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are you going to give them you're going to give
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them coffee mugs you're going to give them candles
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you're going to give them you know hand soap
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like all this stuff I mean they times 30 times
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20 kids like you know they have to kind of give
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you a specific list now because it just I'm sure
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just gets out of control and gift cards and you
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know all those things like we we Sometimes I'm
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just to the point now where, and I know Charlotte,
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the magic, she loves the magic of Christmas and
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we follow the magic of Christmas with her. But
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I want it to be experiences. I wish, you know,
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financially, I wish I can be like, we're going
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to go on 10 trips or five trips this year, you
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know, even if it's little like overnight trips.
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I just want her to have the memories because
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how many fucking Barbies can you have? She was
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asking for, she was telling me she's going to
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ask Santa for. you know, more Barbies. And I'm
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like, you have 50 Barbies and you play with like
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three of them, but these are different Barbies,
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mommy. Okay. She's going to ask Santa for that.
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And I'm like, you can ask Santa for that. She,
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sometimes it's just a lot of stuff. And I talk
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about how as a country, as a society, we're very
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gluttonous. We like to have a lot of things.
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We feel like if there's space is you got to fill
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that space. And I just, I had this new client
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and she's amazing. It was a referral. She was
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very kind of a little more kind of curt on the
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phone and not rude at all, just very, very specific.
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You know, this is what I want and just kind of
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curt. I didn't have that like warm kind of like
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sometimes I'll joke with you on the phone. Like
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I can read the phone call, read the room. I was
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like, okay. And she could tell she was very specific
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and it's her, it's absolutely like, please tell
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me what you need, you know? And she was telling
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me that it was, she just told me this has been
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very hard. Like even reaching out to me was very
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hard. So I went over there a couple of weeks
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ago and we're starting with the garage and I
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might include a couple pictures here to kind
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of get a visual. But the interesting thing is,
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so, you know, they have a big house. It doesn't
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matter how much, you know, you have a lot of
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space in the garage. It's a good -sized garage.
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And they were having shelves built, not built
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-in shelves, not having like a closet company
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because right now they were just doing something
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intermediate until their house is being built.
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So they had those, you know, metal shelves, those
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sturdy metal shelves. And there was like, I don't
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know, 10 of them maybe. I walk up to the driveway
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and she had told me they were going to have everybody
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pull, they were going to have help pulling all
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the stuff out of the garage. I mean, I'm not
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even kidding you. There had to have been, I can't
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even tell you exactly a number, but I'm guessing
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anywhere from like 100 black and yellow bins
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and clear bins just sitting in the driveway.
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Probably about... 30 different trash bags where
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they didn't have any more bins. So they just
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put stuff in trash bags, loose stuff, you know,
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all this stuff. It was semi -organized in terms
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of, but I walked up and I was like, wow. In the
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meantime, two of, one of the whole full shelves,
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the whole entire shelf, all four, you know, all
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four, what is it? Shelves, I guess. Really, I
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made that harder than it needed to be, was solid
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booze. And most of it was brand new. And when
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they entertain, that's what people give, you
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know, a bottle, a nice bottle of this tequila,
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wine, whatever. She's like, we don't even really
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drink. You know how many times I go to houses
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where they have so much alcohol and they're like,
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we don't even really drink. This is what people
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give us. And I'm like, what do you do with all
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of that? Like, do you just give it back? Is it
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you re -gift the wine? I mean, I don't know.
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It's just, it's like, you're not even, I mean,
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I guess you never have to, if you entertain,
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you never have to have another. buy another bottle
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of booze. But I was like, that's an entire shelf.
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That's a huge footprint just to have stuff that
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you don't drink. But what are you going to do?
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Get rid of it? I don't think she was there yet.
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But the point to this story is, and I ramble
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because it's very detailed and I try to make
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a short story or long story short, but it's always
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a short story long. And one of the things I kind
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of saw, and it was very enlightening, but it
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was also, you could see she was very hesitant
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And she did make a comment on the phone about
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it being very vulnerable going to her place.
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And she said, I have a lot of stuff. It's very
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vulnerable. That's all she said. Okay. So I get
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there and I walk up to the driveway and I see
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500 ,000 pounds of shit. And I was like, whoa.
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And I am very, very good at what I do. My background
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is visual presentation and space planning. So
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instantly I go to the space part of it because
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I'm like. I don't know how this shit's going
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to fit. Now, she had also told me she was not
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ready to purge anything. She was not going to
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purge. I'm like, okay. So I already knew going
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in there that everything was going to go. So
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I had to reconfigure the shelving. We kind of
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moved some stuff around, or I moved some stuff
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around and talked with her to make sure it was
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okay. And you can see she was just so uncomfortable.
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And it wasn't with me. It was just, she just
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kept saying that you're seeing all this stuff.
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And I was like, it doesn't phase me. I see a
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ton of stuff all the time. And it's, at least
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it's in an organized fashion. Sometimes I just
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see like if someone had a giant dumpster and
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threw it in the air and then it landed in the
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garage. That's sometimes what I walk into. So,
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I mean, the fact that this is in bins and they're
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shelving and, you know, I'm going to make it
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look amazing. But you could tell she was a little
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like kind of held back a little. And then there
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was this tiny opening. I saw she kind of cracked
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a little joke, very, very small, very, very,
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very small. And I just kind of put my toe in
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the pool and just said, it's okay. You know,
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you can open your own store and have your own
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gift bags, you know, like something like that.
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And she started to laugh. And I was like, okay,
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because it just was, you know, she was very nice.
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It was just, she was going through some stuff.
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And I didn't realize how much she was going through
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of her own stuff. And she kind of alluded to
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it a little bit further on in the day. I was
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there about eight hours. She said, this is so
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hard for me. And I was like, I get it. I understand.
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I said, there's a couple things that are broken,
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so I'm going to throw them away, like vases and
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stuff that had broken. And there were some things
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that had gotten wet. And that kind of stuff,
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those are things you can't control. But I'm like,
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I'm going to throw these away just so you don't
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think that I'm throwing these. People think sometimes
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I'm just going to go in there with a rifle and
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just start shooting stuff and throwing, shooting
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people to get rid of stuff and then just throwing
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everything away. And I'm like, I have no. desire
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to do that. Also, I'm not going to do that. It's
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not my stuff. I'm going to help you. I'm going
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to help you thin it out. I'm going to help you
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have stuff that you need versus have stuff that's
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just your, you know, whatever you just hung on
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to because somebody gave it to you. And anyways,
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I put my toe in the pool with her and I kind
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of saw a little bit of the walls kind of coming
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down. And I mentioned to her, I said, you know,
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It's okay to not get rid of stuff today if you're
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not ready. Like, we can do it another time. You
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can do it another time when you're ready. But
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then I saw her. There was a couple small things,
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small areas that she was like, I think. Because
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like I picked up stuff that was like items. So
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vases that were really nice and didn't look like
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they were maybe the free vases you got, you know,
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whatever. And I had left some stuff on the ground
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just to kind of figure out what I was going to
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do with it. But then I just left it. to see if
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she'd pay attention kind of. And she's like,
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oh, should I look at these since they're kind
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of, and I said, yeah, these are ones that are
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just one -offs. They're just one random one.
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And I don't know if they're as important as the
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other ones. So like she started with that, like
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getting rid of that. There was some stuff, like
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I said, that got ruined in the weather. And that
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was kind of, I could tell she was a little bummed
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about that. But one of the things she said to
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me later on in the day, she's like, wow, I just
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feel. I'm just embarrassed about how much stuff
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I have. And I'm like, first of all, she has four
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kids and they're little. I mean, the oldest one
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is like, let's say 12, but the youngest one is
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probably three. So, I mean, obviously some stuff
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you are keeping because if you have birthday
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parties that are generic and you have, you know,
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certain things, cake things or whatever, you're
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not going to rebuy those things. So, I mean,
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I said, I go, you have a big family. There's
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not, you don't need to get rid of all this stuff.
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But she kept just saying. She was embarrassed.
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She couldn't believe how much stuff she had when
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she sees it. And I said, well, when you see it,
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you kind of realize more so what you need versus
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what you just hung on to because it was easy
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just to shove it in a bin and not deal with that
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bin. A lot of times people will say to me, I
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would never, ever go through this. If you weren't
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standing here. And I'm like, yeah, it's because
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I'm standing here. So this is an opportunity
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because I'm doing something else. And you can
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go through something that you would rather shoot
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yourself or rip your eyeballs out than do. But
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now I'm standing here. So you almost feel like
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this motivation to do it. Like, well, we've touched
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everything. So she started kind of nitpicking
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and pulling out a couple of things. She's like,
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oh, you know what? I don't need these. I don't
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need these. And we ended up that first day, you
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know, she ended up getting rid of some stuff,
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which I was floored because when I first read
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that, the vibe, the connection, there was, she
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like put her foot in the concrete. She wasn't
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even. thinking about getting rid of stuff. But
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anyways, so I saw her like two days later and
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I went to go, you know, help her continue the
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garage project. And she's like, after you left
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and we went out to dinner, I had some serious
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drinks. And I was like, you did? And I'm thinking,
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did you just take a bottle from your totally
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wine store that's in your garage? But she's like,
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I just realized how emotional it is. And none
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of the stuff that we were really dealing with
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had a lot of emotion. The stuff that she knew
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was memories right away, we just put aside. But
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there was some decorations and stuff that had
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maybe not made it. They were just dead from the
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move or whatever. And she's like, I was so exhausted
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emotionally that night. Like I had some drinks,
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but I was just, all I kept thinking about is.
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I have so much stuff. And I'm like, that's okay.
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But now you see it. It's a little nicer than
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just, I think a lot of people just like, oh,
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we already have it in the bin. Just put it in
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the garage. But when do we open that bin? If
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you're not opening that bin for 15 years, why
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do you have the bin? What's in it? You don't
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even know. You don't even know what's in it.
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And this woman, she... She kind of made me see
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it a little bit differently because I watch people
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that are paralyzed with getting rid of stuff,
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but she was talking through everything. And I
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said, some people will tell me the story of something
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and then tell me they're going to get rid of
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it. And that's their way, I think, of getting
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it out of their mind and telling the story about
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why it was important, but being okay with getting
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rid of it. And so she was kind of doing that.
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I mean, not with so many emotional things, but
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there was this moment where... And then the second
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day that I was there, she really was getting
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rid of stuff. I mean, it was bullshit in my eyes,
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but it doesn't matter. She had, you know, those
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black bins that have the yellow lids that you
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see like at Costco a lot or like Home Depot or
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whatever. And I feel like they're always on sale
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at Costco. So everybody has them when they go
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on sale and they kind of snap together. They're
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pretty large bins. She had three of those filled
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with brand new gift bags. And I was like, well,
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we're not keeping all of these. Nobody needs
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three of these filled with gift bags. And she
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looked at me. She's like, no, I just went through
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them all. I'm keeping all of those. And I'm like,
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oh, my God. In my head, in my head, I'm saying,
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oh, my God. So open up the bins. And I'm looking
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and I'm like, and I said to her, because I do
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say little comments that are like. And just remember,
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your kids are always going to have birthday parties
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and there's always going to be gifts. You're
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always going to reuse those gift bags because
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we always reuse gift bags unless it's dead and
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it didn't make the cut or someone wrote on it.
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Some people will write on it to Jennifer from
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Sally. And I'm like, you could have wrote that.
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I can't use that really cute gift bag again.
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Thanks a lot, Sally. But she was so adamant about
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it. And one of the things was one of the bins
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we opened up and it was completely more than
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halfway filled with water. And I could see her
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face. And I was like, sometimes the universe,
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because, you know, I have to put a little bit
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of my personality. I was like, well, sometimes
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the universe answers the question for you if
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you need all of these gift packs. And I think
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that they don't. So she was like, you're right.
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And then she saw them all once I laid them all
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out. on the shelves and she's like I can't believe
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I have so many of these and I'm like but you're
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always going to get more and the same thing like
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with toys like I started this thing with Charlotte
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and I know I kind of jump around because I have
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you know stories for everything but about three
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years ago Charlotte wasn't feeling good on her
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birthday I think maybe four years ago three years
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ago and she didn't want to open any presents
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when we got home from the party And we had a
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birthday party for her. And she was just not
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feeling good. And she opened one. And then she
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kind of like laid around and was just snuggling
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and went to sleep. So the next day she said,
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I said, you open two. You know, you can pick
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what you want to open. So every day she would
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open two gift bags. And I don't know, maybe 50
00:23:14.670 --> 00:23:16.410
people had come at that time. So it was a lot
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of stuff. There was only a handful of things
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that she wanted to open. Once she opened it out
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of the gift bag that she actually wanted to open
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the toy. The rest of them, I kind of put aside
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and just set them aside in a stack, right? A
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month passes, never once said anything. So now
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I moved them from the playroom because I'm like,
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well, she has it in the playroom. She'll see
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it. Then I moved them into the guest room and
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I pulled out only three or four things and I
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left them in the playroom. never opened them.
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The ones that she wanted to open right away.
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So now, four years ago, I started that thing
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where right away, Christmas or her birthday or
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whatever, if she doesn't open it within the first
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couple days, I just move it into the guest room
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and see, put it in a bag and move it in the guest
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room or a box or whatever, see if she mentions
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it. And then if not, sometimes I do re -gift
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because they're good gifts, but a lot of times
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I'll just donate them because I'm like, She doesn't
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even care. Like she loves the thrill of the gifts
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and the opening of the packaging, but sometimes
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she just doesn't care about the actual toys,
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I guess. Or it's just that quick like fix, like
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a drug, you know, like she wants a Barbie. I'm
00:24:29.349 --> 00:24:30.910
like, you have 5 ,000 Barbies, you don't play
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with them. But this one's a new Barbie. It has
00:24:33.329 --> 00:24:38.599
a desk. It has bunk beds. Okay. You have a 10
00:24:38.599 --> 00:24:41.859
,000 dollhouse things and all of that. So anyways,
00:24:42.119 --> 00:24:45.099
it's just kind of that thing. So same thing with
00:24:45.099 --> 00:24:47.160
gifts is the kids are always going to get presents.
00:24:47.299 --> 00:24:49.319
They're always going to get presents. And as
00:24:49.319 --> 00:24:52.039
they get older, as we know, they want gift cards.
00:24:52.460 --> 00:24:55.359
They want, you know, Charlotte rarely asks for
00:24:55.359 --> 00:25:00.019
toys a lot. Usually it's Ulta or Sephora. Or,
00:25:00.019 --> 00:25:02.259
you know, she wants to go to Chili's. That's
00:25:02.259 --> 00:25:04.240
like her favorite restaurant. She loves gift
00:25:04.240 --> 00:25:06.579
cards for those places. And that's really great.
00:25:06.859 --> 00:25:09.140
But you also, you know, want to have open presents.
00:25:10.309 --> 00:25:13.509
were so gluttonous. And this woman, this client,
00:25:13.690 --> 00:25:16.410
she realized kind of as I was laying some of
00:25:16.410 --> 00:25:18.269
this stuff out on the shelf, some of it was still
00:25:18.269 --> 00:25:20.390
in bins and it was just labeled and everything
00:25:20.390 --> 00:25:22.690
was hunky -dory, but some of the stuff she wanted
00:25:22.690 --> 00:25:24.890
out because she wanted to have access to it,
00:25:24.930 --> 00:25:27.789
like the gift bags, like gifts that she wanted
00:25:27.789 --> 00:25:30.670
to give this year, this holiday, this Hanukkah,
00:25:30.690 --> 00:25:33.529
whatever. And she saw how much she had and she's
00:25:33.529 --> 00:25:35.430
like, I just can't believe it. I kind of just
00:25:35.430 --> 00:25:39.890
think of how much money I have. spent and how
00:25:39.890 --> 00:25:42.529
much money I wasted. And I'm like, that's with
00:25:42.529 --> 00:25:45.109
everybody. We all waste money. We all buy stuff
00:25:45.109 --> 00:25:47.569
that we think is, you know, we're going to use
00:25:47.569 --> 00:25:51.009
or, you know, nowadays I feel like everyone's
00:25:51.009 --> 00:25:54.109
trying to sell stuff, right, to kind of recoup
00:25:54.109 --> 00:25:57.150
some of that maybe mistaken purchase or whatever.
00:25:57.430 --> 00:25:59.569
You know how many clients miss the windows on
00:25:59.569 --> 00:26:03.890
returns for like Amazon or, you know, maybe if
00:26:03.890 --> 00:26:05.630
they ordered online clothes or something, they
00:26:05.630 --> 00:26:08.980
have like a 30 -day window. I can tell you thousands
00:26:08.980 --> 00:26:11.539
and thousands and thousands of dollars I see
00:26:11.539 --> 00:26:13.960
every time I go to houses. They're like, just
00:26:13.960 --> 00:26:16.539
donate these. I missed the window. And I'm just
00:26:16.539 --> 00:26:19.039
like, are you sure? Like, you can't? They're
00:26:19.039 --> 00:26:21.339
like, no, or they don't even want to go. They're
00:26:21.339 --> 00:26:23.400
like, it's not even worth my time for, you know,
00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:27.200
$30 or whatever. So it's like, you know, some
00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:29.539
people do try to recoup that and sell it on these,
00:26:29.559 --> 00:26:33.420
you know, apps and stuff, which are great. But
00:26:33.420 --> 00:26:36.500
yeah, she kind of just alluded to the fact that,
00:26:37.069 --> 00:26:39.230
She was very vulnerable. It didn't help, too,
00:26:39.329 --> 00:26:40.890
that every time her husband came down, he's like,
00:26:40.910 --> 00:26:42.410
just throw everything away. Just try to have
00:26:42.410 --> 00:26:44.349
her throw everything away. And I'm like, I'm
00:26:44.349 --> 00:26:46.150
not going to do that. But I am going to tell
00:26:46.150 --> 00:26:48.150
her some of the stuff she doesn't need. Because
00:26:48.150 --> 00:26:50.950
you have the husband is always saying, oh, it's
00:26:50.950 --> 00:26:53.490
her. It's not me. And yeah, I'm sure most of
00:26:53.490 --> 00:26:55.910
this is hers. But most of it's decorations for
00:26:55.910 --> 00:26:58.569
parties. It's not like it's, you know, this was
00:26:58.569 --> 00:27:00.890
the outside stuff. I don't know what was inside.
00:27:01.269 --> 00:27:03.289
But a lot of it's for the family, you know. So
00:27:03.289 --> 00:27:05.309
it's like she gets excited. She has parties.
00:27:05.450 --> 00:27:08.349
She has all this stuff. And he just is like,
00:27:08.390 --> 00:27:09.730
just have her throw it away, have her throw it
00:27:09.730 --> 00:27:11.309
away. I'm like, I'm going to do my best to see
00:27:11.309 --> 00:27:13.970
if she can part with some of it because there's
00:27:13.970 --> 00:27:17.569
no just throwing away. But anyways, I dissect
00:27:17.569 --> 00:27:24.549
clients' thought process sometimes because I
00:27:24.549 --> 00:27:27.869
find it fascinating. I think very black and white
00:27:27.869 --> 00:27:30.950
with stuff that's not mine. Obviously, I go in
00:27:30.950 --> 00:27:33.900
with no emotion. And I've said that a million
00:27:33.900 --> 00:27:37.559
times. I have no emotion going in. Even if Nana
00:27:37.559 --> 00:27:41.079
knitted it on her last day of life, I will say
00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:43.579
to you, if you want to hang on to it, please
00:27:43.579 --> 00:27:45.759
do. If you want to take a picture or give it
00:27:45.759 --> 00:27:49.039
to your daughter, please do. But she's like,
00:27:49.119 --> 00:27:50.680
well, it's really rough and I'm not going to
00:27:50.680 --> 00:27:52.259
use it. And I'm like, then maybe take a picture
00:27:52.259 --> 00:27:56.420
of it. Some people are like, my grandma had this
00:27:56.420 --> 00:27:59.240
pressed flower in a book. She never wrote in
00:27:59.240 --> 00:28:01.059
the book, but one time it was a pressed flower
00:28:01.059 --> 00:28:03.859
in there and I've kept it for 50 years and will
00:28:03.859 --> 00:28:06.880
never part with it. And that's okay too. It's
00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:09.640
whatever. With Charlotte's stuff and a little
00:28:09.640 --> 00:28:13.339
bit with my own stuff, a lot of Charlotte's more
00:28:13.339 --> 00:28:18.079
memory stuff, I do have a little ting in my heart
00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:23.099
about schoolwork and stuff like that. But I do,
00:28:23.220 --> 00:28:26.740
I just never had stuff growing up. I don't have
00:28:26.740 --> 00:28:30.500
boxes and boxes of memory stuff. And so it's
00:28:30.500 --> 00:28:32.579
just easy for me. And I think that's also why
00:28:32.579 --> 00:28:36.619
I really try to empathize because I see it in
00:28:36.619 --> 00:28:39.339
people's eyes. And this client I did see, I saw
00:28:39.339 --> 00:28:41.859
the evolution of the rock solid, you know, wall
00:28:41.859 --> 00:28:43.880
up about, you know, this is how it's going to
00:28:43.880 --> 00:28:45.700
be. And that's, she can tell me how it's going
00:28:45.700 --> 00:28:49.099
to be. Um, and then I was like, okay, we have
00:28:49.099 --> 00:28:50.980
a lot of stuff. We got to make sure it's going
00:28:50.980 --> 00:28:53.700
to fit and you don't have other, you know, we
00:28:53.700 --> 00:28:55.799
don't have magical another garage, you know,
00:28:55.799 --> 00:28:58.420
it's just the one garage. And, and then I said,
00:28:58.460 --> 00:29:00.420
maybe you're not ready today, but maybe now that
00:29:00.420 --> 00:29:02.619
you see this stuff, you're going to go, why the
00:29:02.619 --> 00:29:06.880
hell do I have 400 vases? Um, it was funny too,
00:29:06.980 --> 00:29:09.079
as I, I told her, I'm like, I'm going to say
00:29:09.079 --> 00:29:12.319
this on my podcast. She had, she kept on the
00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:14.819
phone. And also when we were going through like
00:29:15.309 --> 00:29:17.309
her layout of kind of what she had an abundance
00:29:17.309 --> 00:29:19.490
of so I can kind of map out like how I was going
00:29:19.490 --> 00:29:22.329
to put it she's like and then the vessels everything
00:29:22.329 --> 00:29:24.529
was and then there's a space for the vessels
00:29:24.529 --> 00:29:26.430
and then there's a space for the vessels and
00:29:26.430 --> 00:29:28.210
I'm thinking what the hell does she have a boat
00:29:28.210 --> 00:29:30.710
like what is this she she was referring to like
00:29:30.710 --> 00:29:33.369
vases or planners but it was funny because I
00:29:33.369 --> 00:29:36.420
thought what the fuck are vessels like I just
00:29:36.420 --> 00:29:38.740
like nodded and smiled like, okay. And in my
00:29:38.740 --> 00:29:41.099
head, I'm like, vessels. And then once I got
00:29:41.099 --> 00:29:42.680
to it, she's like, oh yeah, those are all the
00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:45.599
bins of vessels. And I'm like, vases, they're
00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:48.220
the bins of vases. You confused me when you said
00:29:48.220 --> 00:29:50.039
vessels. And she started laughing. She's like,
00:29:50.099 --> 00:29:52.559
I didn't even think about it. But it was funny
00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:54.740
because I was like, what the hell is she talking
00:29:54.740 --> 00:29:57.299
about? But I, again, am going to smile and nod
00:29:57.299 --> 00:30:00.539
and just. And just roll with it. And that's what
00:30:00.539 --> 00:30:04.700
I did. But yeah, I've helped her two pretty full
00:30:04.700 --> 00:30:06.960
days. And I have one more day coming up. And
00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:12.559
then we'll, you know, solidify the garage. It's
00:30:12.559 --> 00:30:14.140
funny because I walked in her house, obviously
00:30:14.140 --> 00:30:16.880
to like use the restroom. And she goes, don't
00:30:16.880 --> 00:30:19.000
look when you go in the house. And I was like,
00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:22.079
okay. And I glanced over it, like not even a
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:23.480
living, it's not the living room that you use
00:30:23.480 --> 00:30:25.259
all the time. It's more of like, or like the
00:30:25.259 --> 00:30:26.980
family room. It's more like the living room where
00:30:26.980 --> 00:30:30.480
it's just, you know, beautiful, solid bags and
00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:33.420
boxes of stuff that actually goes in the house.
00:30:33.779 --> 00:30:36.079
So she told me through the house, there's all
00:30:36.079 --> 00:30:39.519
these piles and stuff. And she just. And she's
00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:41.079
like, you're probably going to have to move in.
00:30:41.180 --> 00:30:42.940
And I started laughing because a lot of people
00:30:42.940 --> 00:30:45.220
say that, you know, can you just live here? Yeah,
00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:48.420
I can. But I think David would frown upon it
00:30:48.420 --> 00:30:51.259
and Charlotte would probably miss me, I think.
00:30:52.180 --> 00:30:55.180
You know, another thing, Charlotte, as amazing
00:30:55.180 --> 00:30:57.279
as she is and as beautiful as she is, and she
00:30:57.279 --> 00:31:00.420
is my heart, my soul, my everything, she's getting
00:31:00.420 --> 00:31:03.240
a little sassier. And she's now on this thing
00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:06.839
where if she... you tell her something or, hey,
00:31:06.859 --> 00:31:08.640
honey, why don't you grab that with your right
00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:11.039
hand so it's easier to carry or something? She's
00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:14.099
like, it's fine. It's fine. Everything is fine.
00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:17.079
I said, honey, your necklace is, it's fine. Your
00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:18.920
hair's in a knot. It's fine. I'm like, if you
00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:21.220
say it's fine one more time, you owe me $10 every
00:31:21.220 --> 00:31:23.559
time you say it. Because it's not fine. I'm just
00:31:23.559 --> 00:31:25.500
trying to help you not have a knot in your hair.
00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:28.799
If you guys have seen Charlotte, if you follow,
00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:31.579
if you've seen her. If you see pictures of her
00:31:31.579 --> 00:31:35.079
on social media, her hair is past her butt. To
00:31:35.079 --> 00:31:37.299
help her not have a knot in her hair is a treasure
00:31:37.299 --> 00:31:39.420
because mine was the same. And we didn't have
00:31:39.420 --> 00:31:41.660
these cool hairbrushes like we do now where it's
00:31:41.660 --> 00:31:44.880
like tangle -free, the wet detangler. My mom
00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:47.599
had like a brush that was like from 1972, probably
00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:50.599
made out of horse hair. It was just solid bristles,
00:31:50.619 --> 00:31:53.480
and she never once held the base of my hair to
00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:55.779
brush it. She would just brush it straight from
00:31:55.779 --> 00:31:58.599
the top down, so my head would just jerk back
00:31:58.599 --> 00:32:02.109
all the time, and she didn't care. Zero fucks.
00:32:02.269 --> 00:32:04.289
Here I am like holding Charlotte's hair like
00:32:04.289 --> 00:32:07.690
it's a precious stone, wrapping it around just
00:32:07.690 --> 00:32:10.089
so I can get the knots out of her hair. Just
00:32:10.089 --> 00:32:11.950
trying to help you. And David and I are trying
00:32:11.950 --> 00:32:14.069
to tell her that, like, listen, we're trying
00:32:14.069 --> 00:32:16.710
to help you. Just make life a little bit easier.
00:32:16.890 --> 00:32:19.589
Because as we all know, life is hard. And adulting
00:32:19.589 --> 00:32:22.609
is even harder. So if someone wants to tell you
00:32:22.609 --> 00:32:24.089
how to not get a knot in your hair, just shut
00:32:24.089 --> 00:32:25.769
up and listen, Charlotte. That's what I want
00:32:25.769 --> 00:32:28.529
to say. And if she does listen to this one day,
00:32:28.609 --> 00:32:33.680
yes, I told you to shut up. But, yeah, it's going
00:32:33.680 --> 00:32:37.759
back to just the dissecting of people's mindset.
00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:44.400
And sometimes I worry because, you know, of course,
00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:46.700
this keeps me in business. Of course, I love
00:32:46.700 --> 00:32:48.700
doing what I do. And I love the satisfaction
00:32:48.700 --> 00:32:51.819
of walking out of a garage and having someone
00:32:51.819 --> 00:32:53.960
text me and say, oh, my God, or out of their
00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:56.200
house or whatever. Like, thank you so much. I
00:32:56.200 --> 00:32:57.900
feel like I can breathe again or whatever it
00:32:57.900 --> 00:33:01.359
is. But there's some things that we don't tackle
00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:05.019
that are just really paralyzing. And it was nice
00:33:05.019 --> 00:33:07.680
to kind of see her loosen up a little bit. And
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:12.240
hopefully, you know, she said, you know, now
00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:14.700
I can see everything and maybe I'll do a drive
00:33:14.700 --> 00:33:16.759
-by or whatever and look and if there's stuff
00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:19.680
I don't want. Will that happen? Probably not.
00:33:20.059 --> 00:33:22.680
I don't think that miracles happen and a lot
00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:24.460
of people have really good intentions, but she
00:33:24.460 --> 00:33:27.079
has four kids and her and her husband are both
00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:31.700
doctors. So time is of the essence, literally.
00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:34.400
And I'm sure organizing a garage bin is the last
00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:37.400
thing on their list of things to do. So it's
00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:39.819
just one of those things. And if you're listening
00:33:39.819 --> 00:33:42.299
and you have these situations, tell me about
00:33:42.299 --> 00:33:48.109
it. Send me an email, shoot me a message. Because
00:33:48.109 --> 00:33:50.450
I can dive into this part. I love talking about
00:33:50.450 --> 00:33:53.630
it, the way the mind works and how certain things
00:33:53.630 --> 00:33:57.470
are paralyzing and other things. It's funny,
00:33:57.609 --> 00:34:00.289
and I've mentioned this too, David will get so
00:34:00.289 --> 00:34:03.930
worked up about something so minute. The world
00:34:03.930 --> 00:34:06.069
could blow up in his face, but there's a piece
00:34:06.069 --> 00:34:08.309
of paper next to the coffee pot that I left for
00:34:08.309 --> 00:34:11.289
him to sign for Charlotte's school handbook.
00:34:11.409 --> 00:34:14.210
And he'll be like, why is this paper here? And
00:34:14.210 --> 00:34:16.250
he'll move it over. Yet the whole entire garage
00:34:16.250 --> 00:34:18.289
is a... piece of shit because he won't clean
00:34:18.289 --> 00:34:20.829
it. And he promises he will, but he won't, he
00:34:20.829 --> 00:34:23.550
doesn't want me to help him. But this one piece
00:34:23.550 --> 00:34:25.809
of paper, he'll fixate on it. Like, why, why
00:34:25.809 --> 00:34:28.190
did you leave this piece of paper? Like, this
00:34:28.190 --> 00:34:30.469
is where I, and I'm like, oh my God. Like, it's
00:34:30.469 --> 00:34:33.989
so funny how like your mind just, you know, some
00:34:33.989 --> 00:34:36.530
things can just be a wrecking ball and knock
00:34:36.530 --> 00:34:39.690
you over and other things, you know, you're nitpicking
00:34:39.690 --> 00:34:42.130
and I don't know. It's just, it's just very interesting
00:34:42.130 --> 00:34:46.699
and fascinating to me the way the mind is. and
00:34:46.699 --> 00:34:48.599
the importance of stuff. Because again, at the
00:34:48.599 --> 00:34:50.940
end of the day, you know, I say this, people's
00:34:50.940 --> 00:34:53.059
stuff is important and everybody has different
00:34:53.059 --> 00:34:55.840
reasons for why they keep what they keep. But
00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:57.840
at the end of the day, when you yell fire, your
00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:00.460
chances are you're not grabbing four bins of
00:35:00.460 --> 00:35:04.780
gift bags, you know, 27 bins of vessels. And
00:35:04.780 --> 00:35:08.460
I did kind of say that to her as well. So just
00:35:08.460 --> 00:35:14.480
in kind of the, in just talking about how people's
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:16.699
mind works and organizing. And, you know, I've
00:35:16.699 --> 00:35:20.440
been really, really busy and just going to different
00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:22.760
people's personalities and homes and seeing how
00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:25.340
they are. And a lot of times, I've said this
00:35:25.340 --> 00:35:27.139
before, people reach out when they're ready.
00:35:27.380 --> 00:35:29.519
And I asked her, I did ask her this. I said,
00:35:29.579 --> 00:35:31.159
because she goes, I can't believe I've been living
00:35:31.159 --> 00:35:32.760
in this house for six months and I haven't done
00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:34.780
this. And I said, well, why didn't you? It was
00:35:34.780 --> 00:35:36.800
a referral. She got it from one of her really
00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:38.519
good friends. And I said, well, why didn't you
00:35:38.519 --> 00:35:40.440
reach out to her sooner and get my information?
00:35:40.860 --> 00:35:42.940
She goes, I did. I reached out almost six months
00:35:42.940 --> 00:35:45.219
ago, but it took me six months to finally reach
00:35:45.219 --> 00:35:47.920
out to you. So just imagine, I've had people
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:50.079
that have waited a year, year and a half. I have
00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:52.190
people that have... Their kids have bought them
00:35:52.190 --> 00:35:54.510
gift cards or gift certificates from me because
00:35:54.510 --> 00:35:56.949
they're like, my mom doesn't need any more stuff.
00:35:57.010 --> 00:36:00.130
She needs help organizing her stuff. Let me get
00:36:00.130 --> 00:36:03.550
her a gift card. Can I just tell you? No, hardly
00:36:03.550 --> 00:36:05.789
anybody uses those gift cards that they get.
00:36:06.030 --> 00:36:09.340
And it's like, to me. having someone come in.
00:36:09.400 --> 00:36:11.559
I'd love to even have, I'm very good at what
00:36:11.559 --> 00:36:14.460
I do and I'm very clean and organized, but man,
00:36:14.519 --> 00:36:16.360
I don't want to come home sometimes and clean
00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:18.800
or it's nice to have that extra set of hands,
00:36:18.900 --> 00:36:22.760
you know, and just to sit on it, you know, or
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:25.039
a lot of parents will ask me if I can donate
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:28.300
my time to the school for maybe a silent auction
00:36:28.300 --> 00:36:31.260
or a fundraiser. Absolutely. Here, let me give
00:36:31.260 --> 00:36:33.420
you five hours or eight hours or whatever. No
00:36:33.420 --> 00:36:35.820
one ever redeems them, yet it's probably one
00:36:35.820 --> 00:36:39.000
of the number one gifts to go. One of my clients
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was like, yeah, I think I gave $500 of my time
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as a gift for her school, for a fundraiser for
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their gala or whatever. She told me it was one
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of the, not obviously the trip ones, but of just
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the gift. It was the first one to be bid, the
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highest bid or whatever. It went for like $1
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,200 or something. No one has ever used it. You
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have a $500 of time for somebody to help you
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go through your stuff. It's like, please use
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it. I would love for you to use it and get yourself
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back on track. But when you're ready, I guess.
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I mean, they never expire. So just remember one
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day when I'm 90, I don't think I'm still going
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to be organizing people's homes. So use it before
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then. You have plenty of time. But yeah, that's
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just a, you know, kind of just a tongue in cheek
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story that, you know, a lot of us sit here and
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I know I talk about fun stuff and I know we talk
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about friendship and I know I have guests on
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and we talk about different things. But organizing
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is kind of a big umbrella because it's, you know,
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everybody wants to be organized, but there's
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also some things that kind of hinder our mindset.
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And I do like to... share it because you're not
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alone. You know, I keep saying that we're not
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alone. We're not the only ones that think this.
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We're not the only ones that, you know, I have
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also seen the evolution of clients who in the
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beginning, I have several clients that I've used,
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you know, for most of my business, maybe seven
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to eight years. I have had repeat. Now, they
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may not use me all the time, but I'm always helping
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them at least once or twice a year, sometimes
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even more, sometimes even more. But they wouldn't
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get rid of anything. And then now you can see
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the evolution of like, well, why am I keeping
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this? Why did I keep this? And it's like, it's
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when you're ready. It's all on your pace, not
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my pace. But yeah, so that's just kind of something
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where you're not alone. You're out there, and
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if you're listening, just know that there's no
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rush. If you ever want to use my services, if
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you ever want information about what I do, please
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reach out on the website or whatever when you're
00:38:54.849 --> 00:38:57.050
listening. Obviously, like, subscribe, and follow
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to get more tidbits, information, insight to
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that part of the world. And another thing is,
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and I know we've talked about this, is we're
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on video, as you know, which means we're also
00:39:09.820 --> 00:39:13.079
on YouTube. So let's also check that out and
00:39:13.079 --> 00:39:15.599
maybe subscribe to it so you can know when new
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episodes drop and get to see guests and my smiling
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face. And I appreciate you and thank you so much
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for listening today. And we'll talk to you again
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next week. Thank you. Let's keep the conversation
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going. You can find me on social media at Jennifer
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underscore Sattel for more organizing tips, behind
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the scenes moments, and a whole lot of real life.
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Until the next time, take a deep breath, give
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yourself some grace, and keep unpacking what
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matters most. This episode was engineered by
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Robert Altshuler. Music by Coldfire. Recorded
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and mixed at Command Recording Studios.