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Hello, everyone. My name is Preston Dennett, and welcome to
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a new episode of UFOs and the Paranormal. And as
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you can see, I've got a very special episode today
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where we're doing another interview with Dolly Safran, the subject
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of my book, Symmetry, A True UFO Adventure. We've already
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done a number of really interesting interviews, five in fact,
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where we've talked about how her experiences began as a
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little girl in Florida in the Everglades, where she had
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a lot of contact moving all the way up to
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age 14, where she had her first fully conscious onboard experience.
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And we've talked about the different types of ETs she's seen,
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the photographic evidence she's gotten, some of the places, the
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worlds that she's visited. We've covered quite a bit in
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these previous five interviews, but this is number six, and
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I call this one, Interview with a Fully Conscious UFO Contactee,
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Part Six, Flight School. That's right. We're going to be
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talking about how Dolly was given the opportunity to learn
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how to fly these craft and her experiences with being
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tested with that, trained with that, learning how to do
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it the first time, some of the many adventures she's
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had with this. As you may know, if you've looked
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into some of my other YouTube episodes or read some
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of my books, this is not unique. People are taught
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how to fly these craft, but Dolly's experiences with this
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are really extensive. Certainly the most extensive and detailed that
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I've ever had the opportunity to hear about. So we're
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just going to do a deep dive into that. And
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we're going to learn some new stuff that's not in
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the book because that always happens every time I talk
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to you, Dolly. So first of all, let me just
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introduce you. This is Dolly Safran. Thanks so much for
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coming on to the show again.
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You're welcome. I'm glad to be here. Thank you for
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the opportunity.
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Hey, honor is mine. I'm excited, Dolly, because, yeah, your
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experiences with all of this are so amazing. And I
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have heard it before, but not to the detail that
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you've provided. So I thought we would just start with,
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you know, your experience at age 14, 1973, I think
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it was. And they asked you, you know, how do
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you want to work with us? Is there anything you're
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particularly interested in? And you said, yes, I would love
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to learn how to fly these craft. Not really even
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expecting that they would say yes. So I thought we'd
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just start there and have you describe what that was
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like when they said yes and how they tested you.
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Because we did go into a little bit in the book.
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It wasn't just, yes, sit in the seat and let's
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do it. It was a whole involved process of learning.
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First of all, seeing if you were even qualified, I guess,
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or had the capability to do it. So, yeah, how
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did that unfold?
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After that initial session with them, they gave me about
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two weeks to prepare myself because it wasn't going to
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be an ordinary contact. I was going to be physically
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checked out, physically and mentally. And so the next time
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I was on board, I was given– several physicals and
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mental checkups. And they were looking basically at the neurology
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of my brain, whether my synapse were in good condition.
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And if I was wired well to my own body,
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my own body plays a significant role in this, how
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I react to things, what my reflexes are capable of
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doing and how much I'm capable of handling in an
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experience that could potentially be critical. and how I would
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react to that. My body, they wanted to know that
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I was physically fit enough to endure what I was
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about to learn. And they checked everything on my heart,
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my lungs, my muscles, my everything, all of it. This
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took them about two, three weeks. Oh, wow. At the
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end of that, I was brought back up and sat
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down and it was explained to me that I didn't
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meet their standards. And then the next set of tests
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were basically psychic. After that, they needed to know how
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well developed I was, how much they were going to
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be investing in, teaching me to employ, fully employ my
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abilities and work with another psychically to link up with
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and whether I was compatible with this entity or not.
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And that would have been Talara. Talara being the ship.
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It's an actual entity, yes.
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And so that took about a month. And that was
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very extensive work that they did with me.
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Before we move beyond that, can we dive a little
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deeper into that? Because here's a question I have. They're
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talking to you psychically, telepathically the whole time. There's a
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lot of that sort of stuff going on when you're
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on board. Would you say your abilities are... More in
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tune or more, how would I put it, enhanced? When
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you're on craft as opposed to being here on earth,
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are you activating it more? Are you using it more?
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Not an enhancement as much as it is that I
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am psychic. I can hear them and they pretty much
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take over the conversation. They're psychically coming on to me
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and hearing what I have to say. I'm not summarily
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broadcasting fully to them yet. And they wanted to see
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how well I was able to employ myself, my own abilities,
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so that they heard me on my own. And there
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was a little bit of work that I had to
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do with that. I was already broadcasting so that they
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could hear me, but it wasn't as quick or the
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communication level has to be even. In other words, I
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had to learn language. I had to learn custom. I
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had to learn how they react to things. It's a
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mutual two-way street. And that I had to become one
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in communion with them. And that took a little bit
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of work. That was one of the first things that
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they taught me in my training was to bring that
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level of my understanding them up. And once I reached
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that and I was comfortable with them, then the next
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phase of training began. And that would be linking with Talata.
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When I, okay. Linking with Talata required my ability to
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remote view. There's a second level of remote viewing that
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most people don't realize that they're capable of doing. And
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that is, I'm able to remote view to a source,
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a space, and then join with Talata in that space.
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It's an electromagnetic field. And we literally allow ourselves to
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enjoy mentally. And I become him and he becomes me.
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And even though my body is autonomously still operating on
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its own, me, I'm enjoined with him. And what happens
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to me when that happens is I feel what he feels.
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I see what he sees. And when he's in craft,
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in dwelling in craft with me that way, I become
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the craft with him. I can feel it breathe. I
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can feel it move. I can feel what's outside of it.
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My eyesight no longer operates independently through my own eyes.
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I see through his eyes and the craft system's eyes.
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I feel with the system, all of it. That's why
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the craft is basically an organic entity itself because it
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has to neurologically join up with the entity operated just
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like I'm enjoying my body and my brain to operate
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this entity here, my physical being. I become that with
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him on craft.
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This makes sense to me because this is exactly what Julia,
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that's a pseudonym, told me. Gosh, I think I wrote
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about her book in or her story in my book, Wondrous,
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there was a chapter in there about her, which was
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called A Gray Alien Named Sen. And she said when
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she hooked up telepathically with him, he was in his
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ship and she could see through his eyes everything he experienced,
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she experienced, and vice versa. And that's when he started
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doing all these maneuvers.
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And she said she could see it.
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It was like she was actually there through his eyes.
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So that would be an advanced form of remote viewing,
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I guess, or linking up.
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Linking, yes. Remote to link, yes. And once I achieved that,
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the next phase of my training was understanding how the
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craft itself is built and works and operates. What's going
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on on that craft physically as well as mentally and
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how it operates. And I had to learn a lot
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of math. I had to learn a lot of physics.
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I had to learn what the type of fusion that
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they were using to use this element that they burned
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to create a Graviton Wave and once I understood that
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that's part of what's happening to me while I'm in
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with Talata is I can feel that all working. Talata
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has total control over the energy of the craft. I
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have control over where we're going and directional and I
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help open light gates. It takes the two of us
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together to open a light gate. So the next thing
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I learned after that was the craft itself and how
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it operates. And then once we got that, I was
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on board with him and I learned the basics of
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movement in the craft. I had to learn direction and
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I had to learn speeds, how to maneuver, how I
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physically was enjoined in this craft and it became an
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extension of my mental body And I was helping to
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steer it with my own mind. I was helping to
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slow it down or lower it or raise it or
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go skiff. I was learning what it felt like to
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have electromagnetic fields around me and the fields that were
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surrounding me in union with the fields that we were encountering.
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When we're inside in a magnetosphere on a planet, the
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electromagnetic guidelines or field lines of that planet, how they are,
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and they're all a little bit different Um, yeah, yeah.
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They're not all exactly the same, uh, but you feel them,
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you see them. And I learned to see, um, um, uh,
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it's almost like a heads up display, but it's a
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lot of showing me in real time, the lines themselves.
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I can see the energy of them through his eyes
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because he's more advanced than I am. He absolutely sees
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them and, uh, reacting to them. Uh, they move suddenly
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they shift suddenly. They rise or lower suddenly. This is
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not a fixed system inside this magnetosphere with these guidelines there.
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It's like being on the ocean in a boat. You
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have to learn to pilot with the movement of these
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lines and negative or positive. Storms can change it. The
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sun itself can cause problems. The sun can shoot off
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a flare or incoming coronal winds can shift them. It's
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like being in an entire environment that you here don't
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see here or or smell, but we do on craft
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this way because they're that advanced and I'm working with that.
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Yeah, we talked a little bit about this in the
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book where you actually went to their planet and learned
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with some other pilots as well.
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In a classroom environment where they went over and over
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and over.
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Different scenarios.
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Different ways, magnetic fields and gravitational lines and all that
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stuff works.
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There's a corollary to this. Pilots here who are surfing
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the air, you know, they're flying on top of the
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air in a fixed wing vehicle. It's not the same
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as an electromagnetic environment that I'm in, but there is
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an electromagnetic component to a pilot's life in the seat
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while they're flying this planet. They also have pockets of
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dead air. They have turbulence, everything, and they have to
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join up with that and their reflexes play 100% into that.
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They learn to feel things and see them and know
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when things are coming in and encompassing them. And so
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there are tactics, flight tactics. So I learned with these students,
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when this is happening, you do this. So when this
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is happening, you drop. Or when you're losing a guideline,
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you go straight up, you get out of there. You
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have to have the reflexes to do that. Sometimes people
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see UFOs dancing around in the sky and they're like,
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what the hell is going on? That's what's going on.
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They've got a lot happening to them while they're up there.
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And if you see them dancing or doing weird things,
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they're not as much putting on a show to you
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as that they're surfing this and they're having to stay,
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you know.
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So this explains this motion that we see. Yes.
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It's all around us. Yes.
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The pendulum movement as well or falling.
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We feel, yeah, there's some to that. There is a,
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the earth itself heaves. and breathes itself, and it can
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shoot up electromagnetic energy from its core, and it'll heave out,
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and you can feel it, or it'll drop. You can
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feel that as well. It's amazing. It's very much like
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being on the ocean, very much, or in the air,
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flying a regular airplane.
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Yeah, well, you made an interesting point to me once
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that said we're not actually flying in the traditional sense.
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They don't call it flying. Is that right?
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It's skiffing.
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Skiff.
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It's not skimming the ocean. We skiff magnetic energy.
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OK, before we go on anymore, I wondered if you
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could describe a little bit about the seat you sit in.
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Is that seat normally designed for greys and how does
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it fit you? I mean, you drew it. I'll picture it.
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Talata can alter the seat to fit anybody who sits
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in it. Tall, short, heavy, whatever. And what I drew
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is how I fit the seat, what it looks like
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for me. The first time I ever sat down, when
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it was still for Gray, and he hadn't changed it yet,
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and they realized, oh, you got to fix the chair
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for her. It was kind of funny. I was like,
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I don't think this is going to work. I have
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two pads under my feet, and they are to stop
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me from electromagnetically charging. It's like a Faraday cage under
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my feet. I have a field around me, and this
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is a very big craft. And the smaller craft, we
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almost have a real Faraday cage about us. It's a field,
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and it protects us from being electrocuted. That means death.
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If you're electrocuted, you would die. And so it stops
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me from doing that. I also wear nothing that will charge. Nothing.
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The suit that I wear protects me. And my hair
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is let down like this. It's pulled back very tightly.
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There's a gel that I put in it that helps
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not conduct electricity or static over me. And it's either
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braided or ponytail.
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They give you a gel kind of thing?
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That's a gel. It's a type of gel. It washes
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out easy, but it protects me from charging.
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Is my question, they give you an actual gel to
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put in? Oh, wow. So they give you an actual
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flight suit? That's very interesting. All right. So is the
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seat comfortable? Very.
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I mold into it and it will adjust to me
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as I'm flying. Like if I was to drop suddenly
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and we come back down, I'm held in it somehow.
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It keeps me connected to it. So I don't break
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contact with it because to do that would shoot me
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with electricity, you would believe. So the seat holds on
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to me. It doesn't let me go. It's so comfortable
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that if I have a backache one day, it'll puff
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up behind my lumbar spine and give me a little
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lumbar support. The craft knows, I mean, once you're connecting
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mentally up with it, it feels what I feel anyway.
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So it's correcting for me all the time. It's a
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very good ride. It also helps my circulation. I don't get,
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you know, if you sit that hard and flat on
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something for a long time, you can develop problems in
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your circulation to your legs. And it's engaged to help
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keep my blood flow to my legs going. You know,
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I have good circulation in the chair.
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This reminds me of a portion of Travis Walton's experience
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where he actually, you know, left the, I guess you
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would call it the exam room, went down the corridor,
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turned one direction or another, I think it was right,
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into this other little room, which as he got to
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the center became transparent all around. He saw these stars,
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and there was a chair. And he sat down in it,
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and there were these little knobs and buttons, and he
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started pressing them, and the stars were moving around. I'm wondering,
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are there any buttons or knobs on the seat that
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you were in?
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It would have presented itself to him by the pilot
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as something that he was familiar with. help him understand
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to try it. In other words, he wasn't mentally connecting
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with the craft per se, but the craft gave him
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the opportunity to do something that felt familiar to him,
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to teach him that he could do these things, look out, blah, blah,
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that kind of thing. When human beings go on board
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and they see things like that, it's basically the craft
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accommodating them. It's not necessary for the craft to operate
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that way. It doesn't really use them. But for humans...
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I wonder.
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About that because there's variation there. Because when you went
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on at age 14 and you actually got to fly
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that first time, they gave you a little sort of
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joystick device or a little wand?
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It's a wand. It's about that long. And it's about
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that wide. And it tapers down. And when you touch it,
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you can feel it. It kind of vibrates in your
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hand a little bit. And it connects to my consciousness
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with Talata so that I could join with him without
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knowing how. And it was really cool.
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All right. So after going through all this learning and
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then sort of testing, you actually got to sit down
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next to, was it the AI grays?
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Yes, an AI gray. And I had a tall gray
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with me who was a pilot also. And I began
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the process of actually learning how to employ what I
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had learned. It's like becoming a, you know, you're going
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to become a surgeon. You have to get in there.
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You know, it's all hand-eye motor coordination, linking up mentally
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to physical use, mental use to what you've just learned
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and to employ it often over and over and over
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until it becomes a habit, not even thinking about it.
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You just do it without even thinking now. And it
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took a while to do that. So there's two years
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of that type of training.
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There's kind of two different things going on here when
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you fly a craft, right? There's what I guess you
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would call interplanetary travel.
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And then outside the magnetosphere of planets.
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All right. So is that differentiated from the beginning? Were
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you learning both? I had to.
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Learn both to operate because we mostly, when we travel,
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we locate between places that we're going. When we come in,
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we're stellar, interstellar. We're very close to a planet, we're
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way back out, and then we fly in. And then
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you have to transition into their magnetosphere and go into
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their atmosphere. It takes a little bit of doing how
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to do that because we're changing the way the ship
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is operating. We're going from a nuclear needed energy source
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to battery. Once we come in a magnetosphere, we change
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over to batteries because it's too hot. You can take
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what we are driving with and it's too hot. We're
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talking over 7,000 degrees outside the craft alone. We're in
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a and it's so bright you couldn't look at any
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burning crop here.
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Alright, so are you hearing any noise when this is
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all going on?
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Here outside the ship with a lot of so yes,
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I can hear density. In other words, we don't really fly.
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We don't have a. We don't react to the air
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mass that we're in. We do nothing, but I can hear.
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things operating around me that are coming in at us
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on a frequency level that are electronic from this planet.
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It's incredible. This is a very chatty place. There's a
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lot going on here and we can actually hear it.
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This is coming off this planet, clicking, chirping, that kind
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of thing. We hear TV sometimes. We hear all kinds
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of things, music. It just depends on where we're at
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and what we're doing and what is going to allow
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to come in unwise into the signals that I'm hearing.
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Okay. So when you're flying over a planet, do you
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have like displays that show like the magnetic fields or,
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you know what I mean? Little temperatures.
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Mental heads up display that comes down before me mentally
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that a lot is projecting to me. And I can
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see every satellite in the sky coming down here. I
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can see debris. see birds flying in your atmosphere. I
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can see whales swimming in the sea. There are different
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levels of density that I'm looking at, and we avoid
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coming in contact with those as we fly. It's a very,
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very populated place here, and we have to be careful
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how we come through. We're not in the business of
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destroying technology that belongs to somebody else. So it's a
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concentrated effort come down safely. That's another reason you see
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them zigzagging. Many reasons why they do it, because they're
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avoiding objects as they come in.
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Oh, wow. So did a lot of your training take
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place here in Earth's atmosphere or other places as well?
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Yes, I got good at it. I was definitely being
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trained here as well, yes.
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Okay, so you're sitting next to these grays, I guess.
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What did you say, medium gray and AI grays?
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Two AI grays and a tall gray.
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All right. But they're the ones who are actually in
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the pilot seat at this point. And you're just linking
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up with them.
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At the beginning, once I became proficient at flying, I had,
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Talata had the ability to stop me from doing something stupid.
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He can't control the craft that well. And so they
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allowed me a seat and just watched me, watched me
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through the whole thing. I have many mistakes during my training.
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I have learned the hard way a few times. Not
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to the point that I crashed or caused anybody any problems, but, yeah,
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I've had a few close calls. They taught me a
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great deal. Don't do that again.
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Learn.
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Pay attention. Don't lose focus. I've been accused of being
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a very serious person all the time, and it's the
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training that I've had. I can be very, very single-mindedly.
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I won't let you along with it, and that's my
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training at work. I can't help myself. That's the way
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I am. It was tough to me.
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So, you know, this went on from age 14 up
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to age 19 before you actually got to sit down
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and do it yourself.
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My own. That's correct.
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Yes. Can you describe that first time and what it
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was like? Because you said there's an energy ball. People
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talk about the little purse that you see in the
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Anunnaki carrying.
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It was part of my training.
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And all that. So it's all connected to that.
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The source where I connect with Tlaloc. It's an electromagnetic,
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you know, decahedron, and it expands. It's about this big,
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smaller than a baseball. And it looks metal. Although I'm
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not positive 100% what kind of metals are employed in it,
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but it's electromagnetic. It has a power source in it,
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a seed. And when I initialize it, I have a
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input in my hand turn on and it's a life.
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When you see those hair glyphs and you see the
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watch with the daisy in it, you know, or whatever
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it is that God, that's their key. Oh, mine was implanted.
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Looks stupid walking around with a watch like that all
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the time. So mine was implanted in my hand. They
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decided it was better off in my hand. Do is
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have a purse like the ones that you see on
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the pilot. And I open my purse. It doesn't exactly
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look like that, but it's a beautiful representation of it.
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Mine's a little bit more basic than that. And I
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open it up, and I take the ball out with
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my hand, this hand. And while it's in my hand,
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I make the connection to it. And I hold it
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across my chest, chin low, and there's an arm that
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comes up on the other side with an electromagnetic hook.
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And once I initialize the ball, it It leaves my
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hand on it, it magnetically jumps out, and then it
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expands and expands, and then it'll guide up to that
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hook to hold it. It's about this far from the
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hook at all times, but it's there. And it's a space,
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an electromagnetic field space, where I now remote view to it.
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I go into it. I put my consciousness into that ball.
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It's already there waiting for me. And that's how we
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fly outside the magnetosphere. I don't need it inside. in
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our space here, but I need it outside, especially to
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light gate. That is a magnifier of energy and to
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use it together to light gate to different places.
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All right. So can you describe more about what a
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light gate is? Cause you know, people use terms like
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wormholes and portals. And that's, I think in essence, what
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they're trying to describe is more what you're talking about.
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Light gate. You know, Frequencies, they're.
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Not within humans' sound. In fact, you can't perceive them.
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They're so high up in the frequency down core, so
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low that you couldn't even know how to use them.
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They're unknown to humanity because A, you're not using your abilities.
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You can't see or hear them. That's number one. And
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then the second one is you have to be very,
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very advanced in know what it sounds like, and to
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generate it in your own brain. It took me a
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long time to learn how to do that. Talata brought
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me through it first. It is a sound that I
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couldn't even describe to you. It is a frequency that
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is unbelievable. And it took me probably a year or
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more to get that correct, exactly correct, because it's a
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very specific frequency that we generate together, and it literally
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opens a dimensional grid. opening between dimensions. And then we gauge,
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I know the coordinates. I'm going to go through this
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with this to wherever it is we're going. And I
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employ that ability as well. I'm the gatekeeper and the
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gate shutter. I can open the gate with Tolada and
483
00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:34.190
then once we're on the other side of it, I
484
00:28:34.230 --> 00:28:37.440
let go and it shuts. I'm in a long line
485
00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:39.859
of other craft and we're all going through one together.
486
00:28:39.900 --> 00:28:42.700
We all employ our abilities together because the gate has
487
00:28:42.740 --> 00:28:45.859
to be much bigger. And the last person through shuts
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00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:49.789
the gate. We're trained to do that as well. It's
489
00:28:49.849 --> 00:28:53.750
very fast. It's milliseconds through. We hold our breath when
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00:28:53.789 --> 00:28:56.650
we get there because there is no air. We become
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00:28:56.750 --> 00:29:00.589
interdimensional once we employ it. We are already out of
492
00:29:00.670 --> 00:29:05.970
this dimension as we create this thing. We're interdimensional as well.
493
00:29:06.009 --> 00:29:09.390
We're non-dimensional. We're outside of everything once we get through.
494
00:29:09.410 --> 00:29:14.890
And then wherever we end up, we move ourselves back
495
00:29:14.910 --> 00:29:17.029
because we're always in the third dimension when we travel.
496
00:29:17.509 --> 00:29:20.250
We get to where we're going. Everywhere I go in
497
00:29:20.289 --> 00:29:22.250
this universe is in the third dimension.
498
00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:25.559
All right. So here, let me just see if I
499
00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:28.740
have this correct. So basically, the light gate is a
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00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:33.869
process of generating huge amounts of electricity. To a point
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00:29:33.950 --> 00:29:37.039
that it opens up into.
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00:29:37.109 --> 00:29:38.670
A third dimension?
503
00:29:40.230 --> 00:29:42.069
Okay, so is this going into like the fourth or
504
00:29:42.109 --> 00:29:44.150
fifth or sixth or is this beyond that?
505
00:29:45.579 --> 00:29:49.859
Through the fifth dimension. That's why Talat is so substantially
506
00:29:50.319 --> 00:29:54.839
aware for us and why they help us. It's their
507
00:29:54.859 --> 00:29:58.559
technology that I learned in this dimension who was able
508
00:29:58.619 --> 00:30:03.009
to learn it the fifth dimensional frequency that we use
509
00:30:03.190 --> 00:30:07.170
and we go right through to it. It's very fast
510
00:30:07.329 --> 00:30:13.779
and it's very, been taken to the fifth dimension like
511
00:30:16.119 --> 00:30:19.779
a handful of times in my life. And the first
512
00:30:19.799 --> 00:30:21.599
time I went to it, it had to hold me
513
00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:27.970
up because I see everything in that dimension. You see
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00:30:28.329 --> 00:30:30.490
everything in that dimension. I can see through to the
515
00:30:30.529 --> 00:30:33.309
third dimension from the fifth dimension in ways you can't
516
00:30:33.349 --> 00:30:37.200
even explain. It made me, it's like the first experience
517
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:40.259
on craft. I wanted to puke. He was stopping me.
518
00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:43.240
And I only stayed there for about three minutes. That's
519
00:30:43.279 --> 00:30:44.940
all I could take. And they brought me back out.
520
00:30:45.940 --> 00:30:49.859
He gave me an opportunity a few times after that
521
00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:52.660
to train to go into it because they felt like
522
00:30:52.700 --> 00:30:54.650
if I did that, I would take the jump through
523
00:30:54.890 --> 00:30:57.940
the light gate much better than I did. i first
524
00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:02.250
started experiencing really really weird symptoms of going through that
525
00:31:02.289 --> 00:31:04.609
light gate i would puke i'd get dizzy i almost
526
00:31:04.630 --> 00:31:06.369
want to pass out and they had to get me
527
00:31:06.410 --> 00:31:08.829
past it so they were bringing me into fifth dimension
528
00:31:08.890 --> 00:31:10.670
to get me used to what it's like well.
529
00:31:10.609 --> 00:31:12.369
That's what i was going to say so what exactly
530
00:31:12.390 --> 00:31:14.269
does it feel like when you you know because you're
531
00:31:14.289 --> 00:31:17.240
there in the craft and it's all third dimensional but
532
00:31:17.299 --> 00:31:19.160
then the gate opens up and you go through it
533
00:31:19.240 --> 00:31:21.059
and you come back out what does that feel like
534
00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:21.740
does it.
535
00:31:21.740 --> 00:31:24.900
Feel like you lose all cohesion with your physical form
536
00:31:25.099 --> 00:31:34.500
it It lights up. My molecules, like, you know, you
537
00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:36.470
look at your hand, you know it's there, you see it,
538
00:31:36.849 --> 00:31:41.769
but it's no longer physical. You become light. Wow.
539
00:31:42.930 --> 00:31:46.670
So you can travel any distance through a light gate?
540
00:31:46.930 --> 00:31:49.839
Yes, we can go any distance. One of the things
541
00:31:49.900 --> 00:31:53.839
I had to learn was coordinates, right? where i am
542
00:31:53.859 --> 00:31:56.119
i have an eidetic memory and one of my talents
543
00:31:56.220 --> 00:31:59.180
in life is that i remember everywhere i've ever gone
544
00:31:59.259 --> 00:31:59.819
i never get.
545
00:31:59.740 --> 00:32:00.079
Lost and.
546
00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:05.400
Employ that and learning where i'm going go somewhere i
547
00:32:05.640 --> 00:32:07.920
have to have already been there to know where it
548
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:12.220
is so part of the training is another or pilot
549
00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:16.660
takes you there teaches you where that is and you
550
00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:18.700
jump with them a couple times and then you got
551
00:32:18.740 --> 00:32:22.259
it and it's in your mind and you know This
552
00:32:22.339 --> 00:32:26.549
is critical. Without the ability to do that, you can't
553
00:32:26.589 --> 00:32:32.250
pilot a craft. It made me learn everywhere I go.
554
00:32:33.109 --> 00:32:36.349
I'm absolutely top where they are. I can go at
555
00:32:36.470 --> 00:32:36.829
any time.
556
00:32:38.069 --> 00:32:45.380
This just underlies how truly integrated travel and these crafts themselves,
557
00:32:45.460 --> 00:32:51.640
technologically speaking, are with psychic abilities and Other dimensions, I guess,
558
00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:53.839
is the way of putting it. So the craft themselves
559
00:32:53.859 --> 00:32:56.619
are partly, I think you mentioned this once, if I
560
00:32:56.640 --> 00:33:01.380
remember correctly, partly built in other dimensional ways.
561
00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:09.109
Especially the element comes from the fifth dimension. It's created there.
562
00:33:09.769 --> 00:33:12.289
It's very specific and it can't be created in our dimension.
563
00:33:12.349 --> 00:33:15.490
It wouldn't exist here. And they're trying to make it
564
00:33:15.549 --> 00:33:17.869
now and they're never going to make it. It's too hard.
565
00:33:18.829 --> 00:33:20.809
to be in that dimension and then they ship it
566
00:33:20.990 --> 00:33:23.779
in with the craft at that time.
567
00:33:24.819 --> 00:33:27.799
Okay so another point I kind of wanted to go
568
00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:31.259
over was when science fiction it's all about faster than
569
00:33:31.299 --> 00:33:35.319
light travel and if you know your science and know
570
00:33:35.339 --> 00:33:41.569
your physics it's absolutely really impossible to go speed of
571
00:33:41.630 --> 00:33:44.309
light because the faster you go the more your mass
572
00:33:44.349 --> 00:33:46.490
increases So these.
573
00:33:46.250 --> 00:33:48.630
Guys are traveling. Part of the seams, yes.
574
00:33:49.069 --> 00:33:50.859
So you're not traveling at the speed of light by
575
00:33:50.910 --> 00:33:52.420
any means, right?
576
00:33:54.059 --> 00:33:56.500
I'm going through a light gate that takes a millisecond
577
00:33:56.519 --> 00:34:00.000
to get me from one space to another. It's described here.
578
00:34:00.019 --> 00:34:06.240
I find it represented as folding space. We're going away
579
00:34:06.259 --> 00:34:10.059
from here to here. It's folding space. And you can
580
00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:13.739
get the gate really close this way. go through, so
581
00:34:13.780 --> 00:34:18.599
you've gone this many miles in a millisecond, and you
582
00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:21.239
generate the light. The light already knows it's there. It's
583
00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:23.599
all part of everything, and you land there.
584
00:34:24.699 --> 00:34:27.730
That's what I can describe that. What I'd really like
585
00:34:27.750 --> 00:34:31.750
to do is read a short quote to you from
586
00:34:31.789 --> 00:34:34.590
this gentleman I interviewed. I'm using a pseudonym. His name
587
00:34:34.630 --> 00:34:38.210
is Carter. I have not publicly revealed his story yet.
588
00:34:38.309 --> 00:34:42.539
It's coming in a forthcoming book. But he started talking
589
00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:48.119
about this experience he had. It actually was on Hawaii
590
00:34:48.159 --> 00:34:50.460
where he was with his wife off-grid in a cabin.
591
00:34:51.389 --> 00:34:54.789
And the whole cabin filled with white light. Twice, actually.
592
00:34:54.809 --> 00:34:59.050
They woke up sometime later. I think having had missing time.
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00:34:59.949 --> 00:35:02.050
He had a mark on his left arm. She had
594
00:35:02.130 --> 00:35:05.670
one on her right. Both in the same spot. And she...
595
00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:08.219
He's like, did you have any memories of what happened?
596
00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:10.079
She's like, well, yeah, I remember being in this weird
597
00:35:10.179 --> 00:35:13.219
craft and I think I saw a gray and so forth.
598
00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:17.139
And he remembered something really interesting as well. And this
599
00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:18.659
is what I'd like to quote. It's just about a
600
00:35:18.699 --> 00:35:21.400
minute long, but it reminds me, Dolly, so much of
601
00:35:21.460 --> 00:35:25.059
how you described becoming one with a craft and how
602
00:35:25.079 --> 00:35:27.820
they're flown psychically. Because that's what it sounds like happened
603
00:35:27.860 --> 00:35:30.599
to him. And I'll just quote him here as he says.
604
00:35:31.650 --> 00:35:34.250
This whole thing just unfolded in my head. I'm hoping
605
00:35:34.269 --> 00:35:39.090
you can comment on this. This whole thing just unfolded
606
00:35:39.130 --> 00:35:43.530
in my head. I was like almost a specialist kind
607
00:35:43.570 --> 00:35:47.289
of pilot. And I, my consciousness, had been put into
608
00:35:47.329 --> 00:35:51.730
this UFO type of machine. My consciousness. This machine was
609
00:35:51.829 --> 00:35:55.449
so sophisticated. It was like a living nervous system that
610
00:35:55.550 --> 00:35:59.039
needs a living consciousness to operate it. Just like our
611
00:35:59.059 --> 00:36:03.360
physical bodies. I was test piloting some kind of new system.
612
00:36:03.800 --> 00:36:06.539
It was like I was immersed in it. I was inside.
613
00:36:07.179 --> 00:36:11.400
I was the consciousness inside the living wiring of this thing.
614
00:36:11.420 --> 00:36:15.360
It was very complex. As complex as the body, just
615
00:36:15.380 --> 00:36:17.639
look at all the systems in the body and the
616
00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:21.409
layers of complexity for digestion, circulation, and so forth. It
617
00:36:21.429 --> 00:36:24.190
was like that, but when I think of it, it
618
00:36:24.230 --> 00:36:26.869
was like it was all golden. It was like everything
619
00:36:26.909 --> 00:36:30.510
was made of gold filaments. Everything was golden and clean
620
00:36:30.570 --> 00:36:35.610
and super precise and yet living. It had a living
621
00:36:35.650 --> 00:36:39.449
dynamic to it. It was super responsive to your consciousness,
622
00:36:39.820 --> 00:36:43.619
whatever I was thinking. So yeah, he had the feeling
623
00:36:43.659 --> 00:36:46.679
like he was learning how to pilot these craft. And
624
00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:48.599
how he described it reminded me so much of what
625
00:36:48.619 --> 00:36:53.340
you're saying. It's not only like a living system, but
626
00:36:53.380 --> 00:36:57.360
you're psychically joined to it to a degree where you
627
00:36:57.380 --> 00:37:01.320
almost lose your own Well, not lose, but join with
628
00:37:01.340 --> 00:37:04.559
the awareness of the craft. So does that sound familiar
629
00:37:04.599 --> 00:37:05.300
to you, what he's saying?
630
00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:09.099
Absolutely, yes. Deadline, yes.
631
00:37:10.300 --> 00:37:12.110
So what do you think about his description of it
632
00:37:12.130 --> 00:37:16.190
being like all gold filaments and super clean and precise?
633
00:37:16.369 --> 00:37:20.889
He's precise, that's right. Everything lights up and the golden
634
00:37:20.929 --> 00:37:26.030
color is much the perception you get of it, it's golden.
635
00:37:26.050 --> 00:37:27.360
Wow.
636
00:37:28.139 --> 00:37:28.300
Wow.
637
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:31.500
That's very cool. So you did this the first time.
638
00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:33.119
How did you feel afterwards?
639
00:37:34.750 --> 00:37:38.449
Exhausted. It took it out of me. I was tired.
640
00:37:38.469 --> 00:37:43.590
Oh my God, I was tired. I realized that the
641
00:37:45.269 --> 00:37:49.940
gravity I was doing in that moment was not something
642
00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:53.800
I was going to play. It was reality to me.
643
00:37:54.360 --> 00:37:59.449
And Like I said, the gravity of it was all-encompassing,
644
00:37:59.510 --> 00:38:03.559
and it sat me down emotionally and down for a
645
00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:09.500
few days. I was immensely, I don't know how to
646
00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:14.690
describe it. It just sort of hits you right through
647
00:38:14.710 --> 00:38:17.690
your own chest, you know, right where you live. And
648
00:38:17.969 --> 00:38:21.389
I had to think, hopefully, that moment on when I
649
00:38:21.429 --> 00:38:25.650
was doing, it compelled me not screw up after that.
650
00:38:26.150 --> 00:38:29.570
That's how serious it was. That's how emotional it was.
651
00:38:29.630 --> 00:38:34.340
That's how unbelievably cool it was. And it made me
652
00:38:34.429 --> 00:38:40.860
realize that I'm this teeny, weeny girl. You know, and
653
00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:44.420
I was like, namaste, okay. You know, we're good.
654
00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:48.369
It's amazing. You're a teenager learning all this stuff. Well,
655
00:38:48.409 --> 00:38:51.070
you're 19, pretty much an adult, but still a teenager. Yeah.
656
00:38:51.969 --> 00:38:54.630
And there were other people you had learned with as well.
657
00:38:54.650 --> 00:38:57.429
You made an interesting comment that most of them were women.
658
00:38:57.449 --> 00:38:58.869
Is that right?
659
00:38:59.730 --> 00:39:05.340
Women's brains, female brain, let's put it correctly. The female
660
00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:15.670
physiological mind is more flexibly what she's feeling and doing
661
00:39:15.690 --> 00:39:19.460
in her body. It's the hormone access, the chemicals that
662
00:39:19.480 --> 00:39:22.920
we produce, that sort of thing makes us physically quicker
663
00:39:23.699 --> 00:39:28.250
than men are. That's only one aspect of it, though,
664
00:39:28.289 --> 00:39:32.050
because we are all consciousness. And outside of our bodies,
665
00:39:32.130 --> 00:39:37.239
our consciousness is capable of anything you are specifically doing.
666
00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:40.260
But your brain, how you are in this iteration, in
667
00:39:40.300 --> 00:39:42.659
this life that you're living now, is tuned to that.
668
00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:46.119
And so when you're indwelling in the craft, you're thinking
669
00:39:46.139 --> 00:39:49.800
with a female mindset. And the males are thinking with
670
00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:53.119
male mindsets. It doesn't matter what I'm doing in this lifetime,
671
00:39:53.139 --> 00:39:55.860
I'm still going to be a female. If I was
672
00:39:55.900 --> 00:39:57.860
to be born again and I went to pilot again
673
00:39:58.019 --> 00:40:00.480
and I was a male, I would be less likely
674
00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:02.380
to get the seat because of that.
675
00:40:03.260 --> 00:40:04.420
But there are male pilots.
676
00:40:05.099 --> 00:40:08.269
Absolutely, because you can learn anything. If you have a
677
00:40:08.289 --> 00:40:10.809
mind to do it, you can do anything. And it's
678
00:40:10.869 --> 00:40:11.949
a fact. All right.
679
00:40:11.989 --> 00:40:14.030
So after you learn how to do this and you're
680
00:40:14.050 --> 00:40:16.929
comfortable to do it, you started doing more complex things
681
00:40:16.969 --> 00:40:19.440
like flying with other people. Is that right? I mean,
682
00:40:19.500 --> 00:40:24.559
in terms of first a couple and then being part
683
00:40:24.599 --> 00:40:25.599
of a fleet, right?
684
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:32.380
Yeah, getting on board. There's many aspects of this. I mean,
685
00:40:32.420 --> 00:40:35.059
we're not just flying outside of a craft in our
686
00:40:35.099 --> 00:40:38.719
own craft. We have to board other craft to travel
687
00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:41.900
great distances sometimes or just need a break and we'll
688
00:40:41.920 --> 00:40:44.099
go into a large craft to take a break. So
689
00:40:44.119 --> 00:40:46.300
you have to learn how to get on the ship
690
00:40:46.539 --> 00:40:48.780
with them. And if there's a lot of us doing it,
691
00:40:48.780 --> 00:40:53.900
there's a real learning curve there. You know, knock somebody down,
692
00:40:54.059 --> 00:40:56.800
you don't want your field to bother their field. You
693
00:40:56.929 --> 00:40:59.789
want to think precisely in a certain way. When we're
694
00:40:59.809 --> 00:41:02.989
coming down on this planet, we're dealing with what's in
695
00:41:03.010 --> 00:41:06.090
the air here. And it's not just airplanes and jets.
696
00:41:07.210 --> 00:41:11.820
It's animals that are in the skies. It's a journey.
697
00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:14.860
Did you ever take any, like, just fun joy rides? Like,
698
00:41:15.219 --> 00:41:16.679
I just want to do something for fun.
699
00:41:16.699 --> 00:41:22.940
You get permission. You give them an idea of what
700
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:25.780
you're doing, like a flight plan. They give you a
701
00:41:25.820 --> 00:41:29.460
time that you schedule it, and then you go. There
702
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:32.699
are definite set rules. I can't display to anybody. I
703
00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:37.610
have to be stealthy. It's this planet. I have to
704
00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:41.619
be really stealthy. another planet and another system uh there
705
00:41:41.699 --> 00:41:43.460
are planets that are wide open and you can just
706
00:41:43.500 --> 00:41:45.460
enjoy riding anywhere you want to go sort of like
707
00:41:45.500 --> 00:41:48.869
a place you know have fun or even within the
708
00:41:48.949 --> 00:41:51.550
systems but you're time limited to that because when you're
709
00:41:51.570 --> 00:41:55.710
outside of magnetosphere radiation is not your friend it's not
710
00:41:55.750 --> 00:41:58.789
a friend to the craft or tolada and either and
711
00:41:59.150 --> 00:42:01.550
so be careful yeah.
712
00:42:02.139 --> 00:42:06.280
Well one guy interviewed tim from louisiana uh described how
713
00:42:06.300 --> 00:42:10.000
they took him on board and up to the control room,
714
00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:12.840
as they call it, the place of movement. And they
715
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:14.800
were describing how they do it. And he had the
716
00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:18.019
impression that these were young, kind of teenage grays, if
717
00:42:18.059 --> 00:42:20.610
you will, that they were still learning and they were like,
718
00:42:20.659 --> 00:42:22.349
let's try this, let's try that maneuver. And they were
719
00:42:22.369 --> 00:42:23.250
having a good time with it.
720
00:42:24.130 --> 00:42:28.230
Absolutely. On days like that, yes. I wanted to flex
721
00:42:28.309 --> 00:42:32.269
my mind out. I wanted to flex my abilities. And
722
00:42:32.289 --> 00:42:35.539
you can only do that by pushing yourself. And those
723
00:42:35.619 --> 00:42:37.000
are the days when it gets a little fun.
724
00:42:37.690 --> 00:42:40.250
I want to read another really short quote because there
725
00:42:40.289 --> 00:42:43.730
was a guy that I interviewed in this book, Onboard
726
00:42:44.230 --> 00:42:48.409
UFO Experiences, Jay Gardner, who had an experience very much
727
00:42:48.449 --> 00:42:51.989
like yours. I think he was 14 or 12, actually 12,
728
00:42:51.989 --> 00:42:56.139
when he was taken to the planet Saturn, like you described.
729
00:42:56.179 --> 00:42:58.840
And at one point, they sat him down in the seat.
730
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:03.159
And they gave him what he perceived as sort of
731
00:43:03.199 --> 00:43:06.639
a joystick. But here's what he says happened. I took
732
00:43:06.659 --> 00:43:11.070
the controls. and accidentally drove the craft right into the ground.
733
00:43:11.670 --> 00:43:14.610
I could see the rocks. We were passing through the rocks,
734
00:43:14.670 --> 00:43:17.869
and there were all these sparks flying, dirt and everything.
735
00:43:17.889 --> 00:43:22.780
And at that point, the actual pilot took back control
736
00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:26.039
of the craft. So is that something that can happen?
737
00:43:26.079 --> 00:43:28.280
Can you actually go physically into the ground?
738
00:43:29.860 --> 00:43:36.300
We're in different phases of power. And we're employing different
739
00:43:36.659 --> 00:43:42.280
modalities of flight. Yeah, that's an interesting word. And we
740
00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:46.199
can be ethereal. In other words, non-dimensional. We go outside
741
00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:48.340
this dimension we're here and we're there at the same time.
742
00:43:48.360 --> 00:43:51.599
And we can go through things. I can go through
743
00:43:51.619 --> 00:43:55.500
any building, go through the planet itself, although we don't
744
00:43:55.539 --> 00:43:59.139
go deep. But we can. We can go into the water.
745
00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:02.300
Sometimes you can go sit in the trees if you
746
00:44:02.340 --> 00:44:02.780
want to.
747
00:44:04.179 --> 00:44:12.469
Have you done all these things then? Yeah. Have you ever, like, gone, like.
748
00:44:12.789 --> 00:44:15.340
Don't pelt it to the ground, okay? I managed to
749
00:44:15.409 --> 00:44:18.639
not do that one. Thank you. But, yeah, I've done
750
00:44:18.679 --> 00:44:23.179
some really... It's like cutting through butter. You know, you
751
00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:26.340
just go whoop, and you're there. And it's mind-blowing because
752
00:44:26.360 --> 00:44:28.260
you've seen it when you're doing it, and you're thinking,
753
00:44:28.300 --> 00:44:32.030
that's going to hurt. Go right through it.
754
00:44:32.150 --> 00:44:33.829
I think you described one incident. I don't know if
755
00:44:33.849 --> 00:44:35.869
this was in the book, but I heard another guy...
756
00:44:36.789 --> 00:44:39.329
online talking about how he was taken on board a
757
00:44:39.349 --> 00:44:42.650
craft but this craft actually came right into the house
758
00:44:42.690 --> 00:44:46.530
and physically so next thing he knows he's on board
759
00:44:46.550 --> 00:44:49.849
even though uh they didn't pull him up and it
760
00:44:50.190 --> 00:44:53.010
came into through the house yeah.
761
00:44:52.739 --> 00:44:54.719
When i was when i was older i was in
762
00:44:54.739 --> 00:44:57.039
the house one night it's after my father passed away
763
00:44:57.760 --> 00:44:59.539
i'm laying there and i'm thinking you know i've never
764
00:44:59.619 --> 00:45:02.559
actually got to see y'all come through the wall And
765
00:45:02.619 --> 00:45:05.480
Talos was laughing at me. And I said, no, seriously,
766
00:45:05.500 --> 00:45:07.420
I want to see you come through the wall. And
767
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:10.940
I begged for days. And then one night I got
768
00:45:11.139 --> 00:45:14.719
the answer. Talos said, you have an incoming prayer. I
769
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:17.719
was like, okay, cool. And it's not a white light
770
00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:20.070
that lights you up. It's a red light. And you
771
00:45:20.090 --> 00:45:22.190
see them, I see them anyway, coming in as a
772
00:45:22.250 --> 00:45:25.329
red glow. And it literally came right through my bedroom
773
00:45:25.349 --> 00:45:28.869
about Not the whole crowd shown in the room, but
774
00:45:28.889 --> 00:45:31.090
the bottom half of it did. And they came right
775
00:45:31.130 --> 00:45:34.250
through the house real slow, laughing the whole way through.
776
00:45:34.789 --> 00:45:37.230
And I was just like, oh, my God, is that
777
00:45:37.250 --> 00:45:39.989
what people see? And sometimes people do get to see
778
00:45:40.030 --> 00:45:42.650
that happen because they're picking them up that way. They'll
779
00:45:42.670 --> 00:45:44.989
pull you in and go right through your house to
780
00:45:45.010 --> 00:45:48.179
get you. And I've never done that. I've never done that.
781
00:45:48.199 --> 00:45:52.159
That's not how I do pickups. And it was cool
782
00:45:52.179 --> 00:45:55.619
as hell. They can go through anything. Yep.
783
00:45:56.320 --> 00:45:59.119
So when you go into the water, what's that like?
784
00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:01.119
Do you feel it?
785
00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:03.539
No, it's like you know you're in water. In other words,
786
00:46:03.559 --> 00:46:06.639
I know when I'm in the sky, I know when
787
00:46:06.659 --> 00:46:07.920
I'm in the air, and I know when I'm close
788
00:46:07.960 --> 00:46:10.179
to the ground, and I know if I can go
789
00:46:10.199 --> 00:46:15.179
through the treetops or whatever. I perceive it. Water is
790
00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:17.699
different because you almost want to hold your breath when
791
00:46:17.719 --> 00:46:20.900
you're going in because you think, because you can see
792
00:46:20.920 --> 00:46:23.119
the water, you're going into the water. I don't feel
793
00:46:23.179 --> 00:46:26.449
a splash, I don't feel the barrier of the water.
794
00:46:26.469 --> 00:46:28.289
It's just air to me. I'm going through it. We
795
00:46:30.170 --> 00:46:34.510
go down to a depth and we will sometimes cool
796
00:46:34.570 --> 00:46:37.150
off that way so that we can make a physical
797
00:46:37.690 --> 00:46:39.969
pickup of somebody. You've got to cool the craft down.
798
00:46:41.150 --> 00:46:43.469
It's too dangerous for them to come at us when
799
00:46:43.510 --> 00:46:48.199
we're that hot. It's kind of cool. We also open
800
00:46:48.219 --> 00:46:51.440
blankets underwater. Most people don't understand that. A lot of
801
00:46:51.460 --> 00:46:54.760
people report, I saw light under my boat, everything lit up.
802
00:46:55.340 --> 00:46:56.789
That's the light gating operation.
803
00:46:57.809 --> 00:47:01.619
Oh, wow. Very, very cool. Have you ever chased a.
804
00:47:01.610 --> 00:47:04.329
We transition to some worlds where there are water worlds.
805
00:47:05.250 --> 00:47:07.949
We do transition from water to water world, and the
806
00:47:07.969 --> 00:47:11.929
light gating water will go through that way. It happens
807
00:47:11.949 --> 00:47:16.360
a lot. I mean, the area that I'm flying is
808
00:47:16.409 --> 00:47:20.440
near the lakes. I've gone into the Great Lakes quite
809
00:47:20.460 --> 00:47:21.599
a few times to light gate.
810
00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:28.320
Yeah. So when you're flying... There's, you know, interstellar travel,
811
00:47:28.340 --> 00:47:30.300
which is opening a light gate and boom, you're there.
812
00:47:30.659 --> 00:47:33.489
But then there's interplanetary, you're over a planet and you're
813
00:47:33.510 --> 00:47:37.769
surfing the gravitational field lines. So when you're doing that,
814
00:47:37.829 --> 00:47:42.969
there's no buttons or knobs. You're just connecting mentally, psychically.
815
00:47:44.650 --> 00:47:47.760
All right. So that's including when you.
816
00:47:47.769 --> 00:47:57.389
No transistors. No, there's no... No computers. There are no
817
00:47:58.329 --> 00:48:02.360
digital anything on board a craft. The craft, every system
818
00:48:02.440 --> 00:48:05.539
is separate because Talata's running them psychically. He's part of
819
00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:08.639
the craft and he doesn't need connections between things. He's
820
00:48:08.679 --> 00:48:11.940
the whole craft at one time. So no, I don't
821
00:48:11.960 --> 00:48:13.320
need any of that. It's all mental.
822
00:48:13.340 --> 00:48:15.789
All right. Have you ever chased a car down the
823
00:48:15.829 --> 00:48:28.440
road while you're like... I saw... Cause they do that. Okay.
824
00:48:28.780 --> 00:48:30.800
When I was young, young.
825
00:48:30.940 --> 00:48:31.219
Okay.
826
00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:32.610
This was in what?
827
00:48:32.610 --> 00:48:32.760
76, 77.
828
00:48:32.760 --> 00:48:36.469
It came out. I'm still very young then. And, uh,
829
00:48:36.510 --> 00:48:39.889
I got the idea. Ooh, that looks like fun. And
830
00:48:39.909 --> 00:48:41.650
this is one of those things that I pushed the
831
00:48:41.690 --> 00:48:46.170
gate with. And, uh, we were out West, not Midwest. Okay. Indiana.
832
00:48:46.710 --> 00:48:49.099
It was one of those long boat roads, you know,
833
00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:51.840
hardly anybody out there. And we saw a car. Hmm.
834
00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:55.440
came down and i just sort of followed him for
835
00:48:55.460 --> 00:48:57.699
a while until he realized and i put white patterns
836
00:48:57.780 --> 00:48:59.869
on so i think i was the car first and
837
00:48:59.909 --> 00:49:04.809
the guy freaked out he hit the gas and i
838
00:49:04.809 --> 00:49:06.889
was like do i keep up you know so i
839
00:49:06.909 --> 00:49:08.429
chased him for a little while i went above him
840
00:49:08.469 --> 00:49:10.489
and then i went in front of him and stopped
841
00:49:10.949 --> 00:49:13.179
and he's i mean he spun the car around a
842
00:49:13.219 --> 00:49:15.619
little bit trying to stop and he's just staring at
843
00:49:15.699 --> 00:49:17.780
us and i was like okay enough enough we're going
844
00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:22.039
and i left and uh when i hear you talking
845
00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:25.179
about things i silently think about these incidents in my
846
00:49:25.219 --> 00:49:27.809
life and i'm like waiting to hear that how you
847
00:49:27.849 --> 00:49:29.909
know somebody described that so i don't talk about it
848
00:49:29.949 --> 00:49:32.630
too often but that is one of the ones that
849
00:49:32.670 --> 00:49:33.130
i did.
850
00:49:32.969 --> 00:49:35.289
Yeah yeah well this is what i mean when i
851
00:49:35.289 --> 00:49:38.610
say I always learn something new because this is a
852
00:49:38.670 --> 00:49:41.909
lifetime of experiences for you. It's really impossible to cover
853
00:49:41.949 --> 00:49:44.409
in one book. It's really why I wanted to do
854
00:49:44.429 --> 00:49:48.539
this interview today because there's so much to learn about
855
00:49:48.699 --> 00:49:51.440
all of this. So we've covered a lot. I was
856
00:49:51.500 --> 00:49:54.119
wondering if you could talk a little bit more about
857
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:57.139
some of the close calls you've had. Have you ever
858
00:49:57.199 --> 00:50:00.679
missed a light gate or have you ever dropped when
859
00:50:00.699 --> 00:50:05.989
the gravitational field lines become too wonky? I mean, could
860
00:50:06.030 --> 00:50:08.849
you describe some of the more weird close calls you
861
00:50:08.869 --> 00:50:10.710
may have had? Just a couple examples.
862
00:50:12.860 --> 00:50:20.480
We were up, and it was daylight. Field guideline, and
863
00:50:20.599 --> 00:50:24.670
it was at the 37th parallel. And it just went
864
00:50:27.090 --> 00:50:31.110
left by several hundred feet suddenly. It had nothing under me.
865
00:50:31.869 --> 00:50:34.989
And my instinct is to jump. to power up to
866
00:50:35.030 --> 00:50:37.949
a power up you'll see the whole craft light up
867
00:50:38.130 --> 00:50:41.469
instantly and i go from battery straight to nuclear at
868
00:50:41.510 --> 00:50:45.929
that point i'm i want my i want my ability
869
00:50:45.949 --> 00:50:48.710
to use my own gravitational ability to get out there
870
00:50:49.630 --> 00:50:52.150
and drop to about six thousand feet i was way
871
00:50:52.210 --> 00:50:54.570
up there and i just dropped and i felt it
872
00:50:54.809 --> 00:50:56.590
i physically felt it i was like oh god you
873
00:50:56.610 --> 00:50:59.860
know but i We got it going, and I could
874
00:50:59.880 --> 00:51:02.780
hear Talata in the background going, good, good, good, good catch,
875
00:51:02.820 --> 00:51:05.340
good catch, because it got him by surprise, too. This
876
00:51:05.420 --> 00:51:07.780
one just shifted all the way to the left. That
877
00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:11.429
scared the holy Jesus out of me, okay? And I realized, oh,
878
00:51:11.449 --> 00:51:13.369
my God, we can crash. You know, this is not
879
00:51:13.429 --> 00:51:16.170
a joke. If we had hit it with no field,
880
00:51:16.190 --> 00:51:18.230
the whole craft would have busted up. It would have
881
00:51:18.250 --> 00:51:19.829
been bad, and people would have been hurt under me.
882
00:51:20.889 --> 00:51:22.769
That scared the hell out of me. It left a
883
00:51:22.829 --> 00:51:27.190
mark in my brain. Don't do that. I became ultra
884
00:51:27.289 --> 00:51:37.559
aware after that. I mean, my brain was constantly. And
885
00:51:37.579 --> 00:51:41.179
it served me well, trust me. Another thing that happened
886
00:51:41.219 --> 00:51:44.940
to me is through a light gate. I ended up
887
00:51:44.980 --> 00:51:47.019
going somewhere I wasn't supposed to. I didn't know. I
888
00:51:47.059 --> 00:51:48.920
don't know how I messed that up. I was young.
889
00:51:48.940 --> 00:51:52.280
I ended up somewhere I wasn't supposed to be. And
890
00:51:52.300 --> 00:51:54.269
it was a big shock to me. We got on
891
00:51:54.289 --> 00:51:56.610
the other side of that gate and stabilized on it.
892
00:51:57.630 --> 00:52:00.730
And Tawata was dead silent. We just sat there for
893
00:52:00.750 --> 00:52:03.369
a few minutes and he said, well, are we going
894
00:52:03.389 --> 00:52:05.869
to go or not? I was like, okay. I had
895
00:52:05.889 --> 00:52:08.320
to recapture myself because I thought, how did I make
896
00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:12.260
that mistake? I got debriefed on that one. They literally
897
00:52:12.300 --> 00:52:14.360
sat me down and said, what were you doing? What
898
00:52:14.380 --> 00:52:17.099
were you thinking? They wanted to know every second of
899
00:52:17.159 --> 00:52:19.599
what I was thinking to get me to the wrong place.
900
00:52:20.340 --> 00:52:22.400
And I got worked on a little bit with that,
901
00:52:22.420 --> 00:52:25.179
you know, don't do that again. that could be bad.
902
00:52:26.300 --> 00:52:29.320
So yeah, that was a big one for me. I
903
00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:31.539
felt like a dummy for a while, you know, I
904
00:52:31.619 --> 00:52:36.329
was berating myself everywhere, like it scared me. Let's see,
905
00:52:36.349 --> 00:52:41.429
what's another dumb stupid thing I'm done? Come in, get
906
00:52:41.510 --> 00:52:43.809
ready to juice up, in other words, light up, power up.
907
00:52:45.190 --> 00:52:47.659
You have to bring the batteries up, they drop down somewhat,
908
00:52:47.719 --> 00:52:50.920
that's why you see a bottom part of the craft
909
00:52:50.940 --> 00:52:54.010
that's sort of like lowered, That's the battery packs coming
910
00:52:54.050 --> 00:53:03.889
down in the bigger craft. Man, just powered up and
911
00:53:03.989 --> 00:53:06.400
that causes a problem with your field. OK, if you
912
00:53:06.420 --> 00:53:09.420
got something sticking out on the craft, it can mess
913
00:53:09.480 --> 00:53:12.920
with the field somewhat and that causes a wonkiness getting
914
00:53:12.940 --> 00:53:15.300
out of the atmosphere. That was a weird day for
915
00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:19.000
me too. It's just these are just stupid things that
916
00:53:19.059 --> 00:53:21.300
happen to you until you learn not to forget to
917
00:53:21.340 --> 00:53:21.599
do them.
918
00:53:23.349 --> 00:53:25.690
Alright, have you ever like knocked out the electronics of
919
00:53:25.710 --> 00:53:29.409
someone's house accidentally or something like that?
920
00:53:30.670 --> 00:53:34.090
I've been coming in. You're not oriented properly. The craft
921
00:53:34.110 --> 00:53:38.849
has a definite the EMP that the craft produces is.
922
00:53:41.489 --> 00:53:46.630
A field of it. Larry on the craft, even more
923
00:53:46.710 --> 00:53:49.329
of the South or East or West, whichever way we're turning,
924
00:53:49.389 --> 00:53:54.969
directing or using the field lines. If you're Facing something
925
00:53:55.050 --> 00:53:57.329
directly facing something the MP is in front of you,
926
00:53:58.210 --> 00:54:02.030
whatever direction you're going in when you're incoming coming down
927
00:54:02.190 --> 00:54:03.900
you turn away from it, you turn around from it,
928
00:54:03.949 --> 00:54:05.610
I don't need to see what's in front of me
929
00:54:05.630 --> 00:54:11.400
to guide this craft know components younger i'm in the neighborhood.
930
00:54:13.510 --> 00:54:16.170
that wasn't funny or car on the highway and they're
931
00:54:16.190 --> 00:54:17.789
just suddenly going oh my god you know and you
932
00:54:17.809 --> 00:54:19.969
worry about them crashing because when the car goes dead
933
00:54:20.010 --> 00:54:22.170
and the wheels are moving it goes dead and the
934
00:54:22.210 --> 00:54:24.250
wheels are moving and they can't you know you don't
935
00:54:24.289 --> 00:54:28.090
have power steering that's great because you can yeah but
936
00:54:28.130 --> 00:54:31.230
if you have power steering they're kind of screwed so
937
00:54:31.250 --> 00:54:32.679
yeah i have to be very careful with that and
938
00:54:32.719 --> 00:54:35.039
yes i accidentally knocked power out yep.
939
00:54:36.099 --> 00:54:38.659
Has anyone like tried to photograph you when they weren't
940
00:54:38.679 --> 00:54:41.119
allowed and like that.
941
00:54:40.900 --> 00:54:44.090
We The closer I am to you, the less likely
942
00:54:44.119 --> 00:54:47.570
you're going to get a picture. We hold out at
943
00:54:47.630 --> 00:54:50.829
about 3,000. If we're 3,000 feet away from you, you
944
00:54:50.849 --> 00:54:52.889
have a really good chance of getting us on film.
945
00:54:53.690 --> 00:54:56.309
Anything closer in than 3,000 feet, you're not going to
946
00:54:56.329 --> 00:54:59.170
because your camera, your digital camera, even the film itself
947
00:54:59.230 --> 00:55:02.969
can't handle that radiation and it'll knock it out. It'll
948
00:55:03.010 --> 00:55:06.570
stop it dead. We know what you're doing. We know
949
00:55:06.590 --> 00:55:08.980
you've got a camera in your hand and we know
950
00:55:09.039 --> 00:55:11.550
you're pointing it at us. We don't want you to
951
00:55:11.610 --> 00:55:14.380
see us. We turn to face you so that you can't.
952
00:55:16.059 --> 00:55:18.119
We allow the MP to just knock it out and
953
00:55:18.139 --> 00:55:20.380
move that rock again. Yeah.
954
00:55:20.659 --> 00:55:22.880
This is all really interesting to me because, you know,
955
00:55:22.900 --> 00:55:25.880
when you first start talking about piloting the craft, I
956
00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:28.519
had heard this before and it was really even more
957
00:55:29.219 --> 00:55:35.289
confirmation for me, certainly, when Canadian researcher Grant Cameron put
958
00:55:35.349 --> 00:55:39.590
out his book Sky Pilots, which, you know, basically presents
959
00:55:39.610 --> 00:55:42.030
the I think it's more than a dozen cases of
960
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people who've described the same sort of experience. So would
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you say this is something that commonly teach other people
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how to do?
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There's more than 10 of.
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Us.
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I guarantee you there's lots of us. They want us
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to catch up with them. If you have abilities and
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00:55:59.320 --> 00:56:01.639
they single you out for them, you have a very
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high chance of being offered this opportunity. And there are
969
00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:07.769
plenty of people on this planet who have taken that opportunity.
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00:56:07.829 --> 00:56:08.650
I'm not the only one.
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Do they not have their own pilots? I mean, why
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would they need to teach us?
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Situation is unique. And one of the situations that we're
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00:56:18.940 --> 00:56:20.579
facing here is that we're at the end of a
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cycle and they're going to need a lot of craft
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00:56:22.909 --> 00:56:24.750
to pick up a lot of people at the same time.
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And it's better for us. A human opens the door.
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It's the call get on now. prepped everybody for this.
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They've been sending mental messages to everybody on this planet
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that they're coming. The day will happen. We'll come down
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and remove humanity from the planet because it will not
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00:56:46.210 --> 00:56:50.210
be safe here anymore. And it's coming to that soon, rapidly.
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And it's better for you not to see Gray sitting
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00:56:53.409 --> 00:56:56.050
there going, hey, how you doing? It'd be better if
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00:56:56.070 --> 00:56:57.750
you see me going, hey.
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How you doing?
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Time to go. And from me beforehand too i mean
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that's one of the reasons i'm talking is i want
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you to understand that this is we're all being trained
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to help in our excursion our in our saving ourselves
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00:57:15.150 --> 00:57:18.550
that's an important fact that everybody needs to like connect
992
00:57:18.670 --> 00:57:21.329
to we're just going to come here and do everything
993
00:57:21.369 --> 00:57:23.489
for us not and not by a long shot no
994
00:57:23.530 --> 00:57:26.030
they're not they want us to use our abilities they
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00:57:26.070 --> 00:57:27.989
want us to listen to what they have to say
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00:57:28.760 --> 00:57:31.699
is to mentally prepare what's before us and pay attention
997
00:57:31.739 --> 00:57:35.869
to the truth because this situation is coming and it's real.
998
00:57:36.750 --> 00:57:41.110
This is serious stuff then. This is ultimately the purpose
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00:57:41.230 --> 00:57:44.369
of why they agreed to teach you is because there
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00:57:44.409 --> 00:57:46.260
is a purpose behind all this. It's not just fun
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00:57:46.409 --> 00:57:47.179
and games.
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00:57:47.340 --> 00:57:51.420
It's not why me and nobody else. I'm one of
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a lot of people here that have disability and are
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00:57:54.460 --> 00:57:54.900
working it.
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Alright, so I want to begin to wrap this up
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because we've been talking almost an hour now and I
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want to give you the opportunity to sort of, you know,
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00:58:04.519 --> 00:58:07.760
give what the ET's message is to all of us
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00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:10.820
and how important, I think it's, you know, basically having
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00:58:10.860 --> 00:58:14.099
to do with the development of our psychic abilities to
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00:58:14.139 --> 00:58:17.139
help overcome what we're facing. But yeah, I mean, however
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00:58:17.179 --> 00:58:19.380
you want to wrap this up, I want to give
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00:58:19.400 --> 00:58:23.159
you that opportunity because this is a big part of
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00:58:23.199 --> 00:58:27.110
your experiences is flying craft, you know, scooping up people
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00:58:27.170 --> 00:58:30.969
to examine and heal them and guide them and counsel
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00:58:31.010 --> 00:58:35.559
them and so forth. But yeah, I mean, what is
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00:58:35.579 --> 00:58:38.179
the E.T. 's message to, because I believe you wanted
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00:58:38.199 --> 00:58:39.340
to sort of close with that.
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00:58:41.400 --> 00:58:45.860
Community has a huge opportunity to move out before it. Yes,
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things are going to be difficult. Yes, they're going to
1021
00:58:49.250 --> 00:58:53.690
be explosive in front of us and cataclysmic in front
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of us. But we're We're awesome people like them. We
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have a lot of ability. We know it innately. We
1024
00:59:02.480 --> 00:59:06.750
know it. We're good. But you have to choose for
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00:59:06.769 --> 00:59:09.449
yourself where you're going to go with this. And it's
1026
00:59:09.489 --> 00:59:14.880
important to... to think about it critically. Do this. Decide
1027
00:59:14.920 --> 00:59:20.739
for yourself. Everybody. Each one of you. No, I'm just
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going to stay as I am. Whatever happens. Or you
1029
00:59:24.170 --> 00:59:29.230
can embrace a chance to take this leap with them.
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00:59:29.989 --> 00:59:34.340
this journey with them learn with them and you have
1031
00:59:34.380 --> 00:59:37.440
to do a little bit of work yourself beforehand and
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it's not hard to do you just have to decide
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to do it and the first decision in that and
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the very first decision you must do is learn to
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00:59:47.960 --> 00:59:51.440
separate yourself from what's going on in this world because
1036
00:59:51.500 --> 00:59:56.519
right now it's a jumble of misinformation outright lying a
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00:59:56.699 --> 01:00:03.800
fantasy that is not true real Happy, fearful, and knowing
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that you have an opportunity before you to do great
1039
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things for yourself. And make yourself of whatever woes this
1040
01:00:11.269 --> 01:00:13.329
world has put upon you. Because you're going to go
1041
01:00:13.369 --> 01:00:16.849
on a journey if you so choose. And that's the message.
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It's time. Make up your mind which way you want
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to go. Really think it through. Take a day. Sit
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01:00:23.199 --> 01:00:25.599
down and let the others talk to you. Let ET
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talk to you. Listen to what they're saying.
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Yeah, well, that's really encouraging, actually. This is a message
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I've heard that other contactees certainly have told me, this
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sort of thing about the sky filling with craft, warnings
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of hard times ahead, and all this stuff that you're
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01:00:47.480 --> 01:00:50.480
saying is certainly familiar to me, but it's really wonderful
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01:00:50.519 --> 01:00:54.199
to hear it in such detail, in such positive terms.
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01:00:55.099 --> 01:00:59.000
It's just really cool and really remarkable that we have
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01:00:59.039 --> 01:01:02.469
these people out there who are working so hard to
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help us through this transition. And I think it's important
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that people know. And like you say, try to sift
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through all the lies, the disinformation, the false narratives our
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governments are putting forth and look to the truth, look
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to science, look to your own experience. And this is
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something that's available to anyone, right? And anyone can reach
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out to these guys. Very cool. Anything else you want
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to add?
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Just happy, joyful. These days in front of you to
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work for yourselves and your families and regain consciousness, regain
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the ability to reach and tap your own consciousness and
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others as well. It's a beautiful thing to do and
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it's fun.
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Very cool.
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I can't tell you how much fun this was for me.
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All of it. I can only imagine. I mean, wow.
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It's fun driving a car. So to say my other
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car is a UFO, that's a bumper sticker I've seen,
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and have it be true is beyond me. It's just
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really amazing. So, yeah, thanks, Dolly. That was awesome. And
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I definitely learned some stuff. It was certainly really interesting.
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And we did cover part of this in the book, Symmetry,
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A True UFO Adventure. So if y'all want to read
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01:02:29.699 --> 01:02:34.840
more about Dolly's experiences, definitely check out that book. But yeah, Dolly,
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huge thanks to you. Really appreciate you coming on to
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the show.
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Very much. I appreciate it.
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All right. That's the show for tonight, guys. Thanks very
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much for watching. I truly appreciate it. And as I
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01:02:51.449 --> 01:02:55.710
always like to say... Keep searching for answers. Keep looking
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01:02:55.750 --> 01:03:01.739
for the truth. And most importantly, keep having fun. Right, Dolly? Absolutely.
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All right.
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Bye, guys.
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Hello, everyone. My name is Preston Dennett, and welcome to
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a new episode of UFOs and the Paranormal. And as
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you can see, I've got a very special episode today
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where we're doing another interview with Dolly Safran, the subject
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of my book, Symmetry, A True UFO Adventure. We've already
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done a number of really interesting interviews, five in fact,
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where we've talked about how her experiences began as a
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little girl in Florida in the Everglades, where she had
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a lot of contact moving all the way up to
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age 14, where she had her first fully conscious onboard experience.
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And we've talked about the different types of ETs she's seen,
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the photographic evidence she's gotten, some of the places, the
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worlds that she's visited. We've covered quite a bit in
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these previous five interviews, but this is number six, and
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I call this one, Interview with a Fully Conscious UFO Contactee,
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Part Six, Flight School. That's right. We're going to be
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talking about how Dolly was given the opportunity to learn
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how to fly these craft and her experiences with being
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tested with that, trained with that, learning how to do
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it the first time, some of the many adventures she's
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had with this. As you may know, if you've looked
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into some of my other YouTube episodes or read some
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of my books, this is not unique. People are taught
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how to fly these craft, but Dolly's experiences with this
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are really extensive. Certainly the most extensive and detailed that
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I've ever had the opportunity to hear about. So we're
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just going to do a deep dive into that. And
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we're going to learn some new stuff that's not in
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the book because that always happens every time I talk
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to you, Dolly. So first of all, let me just
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introduce you. This is Dolly Safran. Thanks so much for
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coming on to the show again.
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You're welcome. I'm glad to be here. Thank you for
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the opportunity.
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Hey, honor is mine. I'm excited, Dolly, because, yeah, your
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experiences with all of this are so amazing. And I
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have heard it before, but not to the detail that
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you've provided. So I thought we would just start with,
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you know, your experience at age 14, 1973, I think
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it was. And they asked you, you know, how do
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you want to work with us? Is there anything you're
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particularly interested in? And you said, yes, I would love
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to learn how to fly these craft. Not really even
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expecting that they would say yes. So I thought we'd
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just start there and have you describe what that was
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like when they said yes and how they tested you.
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Because we did go into a little bit in the book.
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It wasn't just, yes, sit in the seat and let's
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do it. It was a whole involved process of learning.
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First of all, seeing if you were even qualified, I guess,
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or had the capability to do it. So, yeah, how
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did that unfold?
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After that initial session with them, they gave me about
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two weeks to prepare myself because it wasn't going to
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be an ordinary contact. I was going to be physically
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checked out, physically and mentally. And so the next time
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I was on board, I was given– several physicals and
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mental checkups. And they were looking basically at the neurology
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of my brain, whether my synapse were in good condition.
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And if I was wired well to my own body,
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my own body plays a significant role in this, how
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I react to things, what my reflexes are capable of
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doing and how much I'm capable of handling in an
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experience that could potentially be critical. and how I would
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react to that. My body, they wanted to know that
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I was physically fit enough to endure what I was
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about to learn. And they checked everything on my heart,
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my lungs, my muscles, my everything, all of it. This
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took them about two, three weeks. Oh, wow. At the
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end of that, I was brought back up and sat
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down and it was explained to me that I didn't
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meet their standards. And then the next set of tests
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were basically psychic. After that, they needed to know how
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well developed I was, how much they were going to
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be investing in, teaching me to employ, fully employ my
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abilities and work with another psychically to link up with
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and whether I was compatible with this entity or not.
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And that would have been Talara. Talara being the ship.
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It's an actual entity, yes.
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And so that took about a month. And that was
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very extensive work that they did with me.
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Before we move beyond that, can we dive a little
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deeper into that? Because here's a question I have. They're
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talking to you psychically, telepathically the whole time. There's a
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lot of that sort of stuff going on when you're
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on board. Would you say your abilities are... More in
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tune or more, how would I put it, enhanced? When
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you're on craft as opposed to being here on earth,
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are you activating it more? Are you using it more?
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Not an enhancement as much as it is that I
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am psychic. I can hear them and they pretty much
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take over the conversation. They're psychically coming on to me
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and hearing what I have to say. I'm not summarily
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broadcasting fully to them yet. And they wanted to see
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how well I was able to employ myself, my own abilities,
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so that they heard me on my own. And there
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was a little bit of work that I had to
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do with that. I was already broadcasting so that they
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could hear me, but it wasn't as quick or the
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communication level has to be even. In other words, I
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had to learn language. I had to learn custom. I
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had to learn how they react to things. It's a
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mutual two-way street. And that I had to become one
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in communion with them. And that took a little bit
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of work. That was one of the first things that
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they taught me in my training was to bring that
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level of my understanding them up. And once I reached
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that and I was comfortable with them, then the next
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phase of training began. And that would be linking with Talata.
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When I, okay. Linking with Talata required my ability to
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remote view. There's a second level of remote viewing that
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most people don't realize that they're capable of doing. And
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that is, I'm able to remote view to a source,
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a space, and then join with Talata in that space.
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It's an electromagnetic field. And we literally allow ourselves to
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enjoy mentally. And I become him and he becomes me.
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its own, me, I'm enjoined with him. And what happens
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to me when that happens is I feel what he feels.
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I see what he sees. And when he's in craft,
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in dwelling in craft with me that way, I become
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the craft with him. I can feel it breathe. I
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can feel it move. I can feel what's outside of it.
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My eyesight no longer operates independently through my own eyes.
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I see through his eyes and the craft system's eyes.
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I feel with the system, all of it. That's why
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the craft is basically an organic entity itself because it
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has to neurologically join up with the entity operated just
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like I'm enjoying my body and my brain to operate
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this entity here, my physical being. I become that with
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him on craft.
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This makes sense to me because this is exactly what Julia,
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that's a pseudonym, told me. Gosh, I think I wrote
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about her book in or her story in my book, Wondrous,
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there was a chapter in there about her, which was
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called A Gray Alien Named Sen. And she said when
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she hooked up telepathically with him, he was in his
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ship and she could see through his eyes everything he experienced,
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she experienced, and vice versa. And that's when he started
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doing all these maneuvers.
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And she said she could see it.
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It was like she was actually there through his eyes.
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So that would be an advanced form of remote viewing,
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I guess, or linking up.
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Linking, yes. Remote to link, yes. And once I achieved that,
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the next phase of my training was understanding how the
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craft itself is built and works and operates. What's going
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on on that craft physically as well as mentally and
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how it operates. And I had to learn a lot
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of math. I had to learn a lot of physics.
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I had to learn what the type of fusion that
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they were using to use this element that they burned
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to create a Graviton Wave and once I understood that
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that's part of what's happening to me while I'm in
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with Talata is I can feel that all working. Talata
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has total control over the energy of the craft. I
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have control over where we're going and directional and I
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help open light gates. It takes the two of us
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together to open a light gate. So the next thing
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I learned after that was the craft itself and how
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it operates. And then once we got that, I was
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on board with him and I learned the basics of
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movement in the craft. I had to learn direction and
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I had to learn speeds, how to maneuver, how I
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physically was enjoined in this craft and it became an
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extension of my mental body And I was helping to
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steer it with my own mind. I was helping to
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slow it down or lower it or raise it or
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go skiff. I was learning what it felt like to
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have electromagnetic fields around me and the fields that were
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surrounding me in union with the fields that we were encountering.
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When we're inside in a magnetosphere on a planet, the
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electromagnetic guidelines or field lines of that planet, how they are,
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and they're all a little bit different Um, yeah, yeah.
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They're not all exactly the same, uh, but you feel them,
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you see them. And I learned to see, um, um, uh,
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it's almost like a heads up display, but it's a
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lot of showing me in real time, the lines themselves.
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I can see the energy of them through his eyes
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because he's more advanced than I am. He absolutely sees
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them and, uh, reacting to them. Uh, they move suddenly
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they shift suddenly. They rise or lower suddenly. This is
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not a fixed system inside this magnetosphere with these guidelines there.
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It's like being on the ocean in a boat. You
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have to learn to pilot with the movement of these
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lines and negative or positive. Storms can change it. The
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sun itself can cause problems. The sun can shoot off
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a flare or incoming coronal winds can shift them. It's
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like being in an entire environment that you here don't
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see here or or smell, but we do on craft
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this way because they're that advanced and I'm working with that.
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Yeah, we talked a little bit about this in the
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book where you actually went to their planet and learned
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with some other pilots as well.
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In a classroom environment where they went over and over
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and over.
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Different scenarios.
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Different ways, magnetic fields and gravitational lines and all that
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stuff works.
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the air, you know, they're flying on top of the
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air in a fixed wing vehicle. It's not the same
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as an electromagnetic environment that I'm in, but there is
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an electromagnetic component to a pilot's life in the seat
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while they're flying this planet. They also have pockets of
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dead air. They have turbulence, everything, and they have to
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join up with that and their reflexes play 100% into that.
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They learn to feel things and see them and know
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when things are coming in and encompassing them. And so
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there are tactics, flight tactics. So I learned with these students,
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when this is happening, you do this. So when this
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is happening, you drop. Or when you're losing a guideline,
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you go straight up, you get out of there. You
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have to have the reflexes to do that. Sometimes people
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see UFOs dancing around in the sky and they're like,
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what the hell is going on? That's what's going on.
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They've got a lot happening to them while they're up there.
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they're not as much putting on a show to you
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as that they're surfing this and they're having to stay,
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you know.
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So this explains this motion that we see. Yes.
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It's all around us. Yes.
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The pendulum movement as well or falling.
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the earth itself heaves. and breathes itself, and it can
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shoot up electromagnetic energy from its core, and it'll heave out,
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and you can feel it, or it'll drop. You can
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feel that as well. It's amazing. It's very much like
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being on the ocean, very much, or in the air,
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flying a regular airplane.
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Yeah, well, you made an interesting point to me once
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that said we're not actually flying in the traditional sense.
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They don't call it flying. Is that right?
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It's skiffing.
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Skiff.
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It's not skimming the ocean. We skiff magnetic energy.
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OK, before we go on anymore, I wondered if you
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could describe a little bit about the seat you sit in.
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Is that seat normally designed for greys and how does
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it fit you? I mean, you drew it. I'll picture it.
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Talata can alter the seat to fit anybody who sits
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in it. Tall, short, heavy, whatever. And what I drew
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is how I fit the seat, what it looks like
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for me. The first time I ever sat down, when
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it was still for Gray, and he hadn't changed it yet,
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and they realized, oh, you got to fix the chair
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for her. It was kind of funny. I was like,
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I don't think this is going to work. I have
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two pads under my feet, and they are to stop
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me from electromagnetically charging. It's like a Faraday cage under
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my feet. I have a field around me, and this
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is a very big craft. And the smaller craft, we
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almost have a real Faraday cage about us. It's a field,
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and it protects us from being electrocuted. That means death.
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If you're electrocuted, you would die. And so it stops
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me from doing that. I also wear nothing that will charge. Nothing.
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The suit that I wear protects me. And my hair
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is let down like this. It's pulled back very tightly.
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There's a gel that I put in it that helps
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not conduct electricity or static over me. And it's either
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braided or ponytail.
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They give you a gel kind of thing?
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That's a gel. It's a type of gel. It washes
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out easy, but it protects me from charging.
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Is my question, they give you an actual gel to
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put in? Oh, wow. So they give you an actual
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flight suit? That's very interesting. All right. So is the
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seat comfortable? Very.
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I mold into it and it will adjust to me
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as I'm flying. Like if I was to drop suddenly
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and we come back down, I'm held in it somehow.
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It keeps me connected to it. So I don't break
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contact with it because to do that would shoot me
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with electricity, you would believe. So the seat holds on
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to me. It doesn't let me go. It's so comfortable
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that if I have a backache one day, it'll puff
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up behind my lumbar spine and give me a little
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lumbar support. The craft knows, I mean, once you're connecting
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mentally up with it, it feels what I feel anyway.
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So it's correcting for me all the time. It's a
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very good ride. It also helps my circulation. I don't get,
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you know, if you sit that hard and flat on
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something for a long time, you can develop problems in
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your circulation to your legs. And it's engaged to help
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keep my blood flow to my legs going. You know,
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I have good circulation in the chair.
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This reminds me of a portion of Travis Walton's experience
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where he actually, you know, left the, I guess you
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would call it the exam room, went down the corridor,
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turned one direction or another, I think it was right,
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into this other little room, which as he got to
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the center became transparent all around. He saw these stars,
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and there was a chair. And he sat down in it,
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and there were these little knobs and buttons, and he
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started pressing them, and the stars were moving around. I'm wondering,
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are there any buttons or knobs on the seat that
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you were in?
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It would have presented itself to him by the pilot
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as something that he was familiar with. help him understand
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to try it. In other words, he wasn't mentally connecting
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with the craft per se, but the craft gave him
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the opportunity to do something that felt familiar to him,
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to teach him that he could do these things, look out, blah, blah,
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that kind of thing. When human beings go on board
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and they see things like that, it's basically the craft
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accommodating them. It's not necessary for the craft to operate
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that way. It doesn't really use them. But for humans...
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I wonder.
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About that because there's variation there. Because when you went
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on at age 14 and you actually got to fly
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that first time, they gave you a little sort of
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joystick device or a little wand?
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It's a wand. It's about that long. And it's about
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that wide. And it tapers down. And when you touch it,
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you can feel it. It kind of vibrates in your
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hand a little bit. And it connects to my consciousness
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with Talata so that I could join with him without
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knowing how. And it was really cool.
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All right. So after going through all this learning and
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then sort of testing, you actually got to sit down
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next to, was it the AI grays?
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Yes, an AI gray. And I had a tall gray
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with me who was a pilot also. And I began
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the process of actually learning how to employ what I
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had learned. It's like becoming a, you know, you're going
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to become a surgeon. You have to get in there.
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You know, it's all hand-eye motor coordination, linking up mentally
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to physical use, mental use to what you've just learned
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and to employ it often over and over and over
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until it becomes a habit, not even thinking about it.
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You just do it without even thinking now. And it
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took a while to do that. So there's two years
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of that type of training.
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There's kind of two different things going on here when
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you fly a craft, right? There's what I guess you
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would call interplanetary travel.
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And then outside the magnetosphere of planets.
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All right. So is that differentiated from the beginning? Were
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you learning both? I had to.
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Learn both to operate because we mostly, when we travel,
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we locate between places that we're going. When we come in,
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we're stellar, interstellar. We're very close to a planet, we're
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way back out, and then we fly in. And then
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you have to transition into their magnetosphere and go into
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their atmosphere. It takes a little bit of doing how
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to do that because we're changing the way the ship
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is operating. We're going from a nuclear needed energy source
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to battery. Once we come in a magnetosphere, we change
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over to batteries because it's too hot. You can take
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what we are driving with and it's too hot. We're
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talking over 7,000 degrees outside the craft alone. We're in
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a and it's so bright you couldn't look at any
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burning crop here.
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Alright, so are you hearing any noise when this is
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all going on?
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Here outside the ship with a lot of so yes,
361
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I can hear density. In other words, we don't really fly.
362
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We don't have a. We don't react to the air
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mass that we're in. We do nothing, but I can hear.
364
00:21:38.359 --> 00:21:40.960
things operating around me that are coming in at us
365
00:21:40.980 --> 00:21:44.319
on a frequency level that are electronic from this planet.
366
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It's incredible. This is a very chatty place. There's a
367
00:21:47.039 --> 00:21:49.410
lot going on here and we can actually hear it.
368
00:21:49.869 --> 00:21:55.549
This is coming off this planet, clicking, chirping, that kind
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of thing. We hear TV sometimes. We hear all kinds
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of things, music. It just depends on where we're at
371
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and what we're doing and what is going to allow
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to come in unwise into the signals that I'm hearing.
373
00:22:10.880 --> 00:22:13.059
Okay. So when you're flying over a planet, do you
374
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have like displays that show like the magnetic fields or,
375
00:22:17.259 --> 00:22:20.279
you know what I mean? Little temperatures.
376
00:22:20.660 --> 00:22:24.099
Mental heads up display that comes down before me mentally
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that a lot is projecting to me. And I can
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see every satellite in the sky coming down here. I
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can see debris. see birds flying in your atmosphere. I
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can see whales swimming in the sea. There are different
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levels of density that I'm looking at, and we avoid
382
00:22:42.359 --> 00:22:44.980
coming in contact with those as we fly. It's a very,
383
00:22:45.079 --> 00:22:48.059
very populated place here, and we have to be careful
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how we come through. We're not in the business of
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destroying technology that belongs to somebody else. So it's a
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concentrated effort come down safely. That's another reason you see
387
00:22:59.430 --> 00:23:02.190
them zigzagging. Many reasons why they do it, because they're
388
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avoiding objects as they come in.
389
00:23:04.690 --> 00:23:06.490
Oh, wow. So did a lot of your training take
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place here in Earth's atmosphere or other places as well?
391
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Yes, I got good at it. I was definitely being
392
00:23:14.259 --> 00:23:15.200
trained here as well, yes.
393
00:23:16.000 --> 00:23:19.859
Okay, so you're sitting next to these grays, I guess.
394
00:23:19.880 --> 00:23:22.819
What did you say, medium gray and AI grays?
395
00:23:22.839 --> 00:23:24.339
Two AI grays and a tall gray.
396
00:23:25.369 --> 00:23:27.549
All right. But they're the ones who are actually in
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the pilot seat at this point. And you're just linking
398
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up with them.
399
00:23:30.569 --> 00:23:34.789
At the beginning, once I became proficient at flying, I had,
400
00:23:35.210 --> 00:23:38.490
Talata had the ability to stop me from doing something stupid.
401
00:23:38.829 --> 00:23:41.750
He can't control the craft that well. And so they
402
00:23:41.789 --> 00:23:47.289
allowed me a seat and just watched me, watched me
403
00:23:47.309 --> 00:23:51.289
through the whole thing. I have many mistakes during my training.
404
00:23:51.309 --> 00:23:54.359
I have learned the hard way a few times. Not
405
00:23:54.380 --> 00:23:57.440
to the point that I crashed or caused anybody any problems, but, yeah,
406
00:23:57.460 --> 00:24:00.299
I've had a few close calls. They taught me a
407
00:24:00.319 --> 00:24:01.920
great deal. Don't do that again.
408
00:24:01.940 --> 00:24:02.039
Learn.
409
00:24:02.460 --> 00:24:09.809
Pay attention. Don't lose focus. I've been accused of being
410
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a very serious person all the time, and it's the
411
00:24:12.089 --> 00:24:16.690
training that I've had. I can be very, very single-mindedly.
412
00:24:16.710 --> 00:24:20.680
I won't let you along with it, and that's my
413
00:24:20.740 --> 00:24:23.420
training at work. I can't help myself. That's the way
414
00:24:23.480 --> 00:24:24.940
I am. It was tough to me.
415
00:24:25.839 --> 00:24:29.210
So, you know, this went on from age 14 up
416
00:24:29.250 --> 00:24:32.829
to age 19 before you actually got to sit down
417
00:24:32.890 --> 00:24:34.150
and do it yourself.
418
00:24:34.369 --> 00:24:35.630
My own. That's correct.
419
00:24:35.730 --> 00:24:37.950
Yes. Can you describe that first time and what it
420
00:24:37.970 --> 00:24:41.710
was like? Because you said there's an energy ball. People
421
00:24:41.750 --> 00:24:43.369
talk about the little purse that you see in the
422
00:24:43.450 --> 00:24:44.650
Anunnaki carrying.
423
00:24:44.670 --> 00:24:46.009
It was part of my training.
424
00:24:46.890 --> 00:24:48.730
And all that. So it's all connected to that.
425
00:24:49.579 --> 00:24:53.299
The source where I connect with Tlaloc. It's an electromagnetic,
426
00:24:56.720 --> 00:25:01.619
you know, decahedron, and it expands. It's about this big,
427
00:25:01.980 --> 00:25:05.670
smaller than a baseball. And it looks metal. Although I'm
428
00:25:05.710 --> 00:25:09.500
not positive 100% what kind of metals are employed in it,
429
00:25:09.529 --> 00:25:12.069
but it's electromagnetic. It has a power source in it,
430
00:25:12.109 --> 00:25:15.450
a seed. And when I initialize it, I have a
431
00:25:17.930 --> 00:25:23.410
input in my hand turn on and it's a life.
432
00:25:24.369 --> 00:25:26.150
When you see those hair glyphs and you see the
433
00:25:26.210 --> 00:25:28.230
watch with the daisy in it, you know, or whatever
434
00:25:28.250 --> 00:25:32.500
it is that God, that's their key. Oh, mine was implanted.
435
00:25:34.700 --> 00:25:36.799
Looks stupid walking around with a watch like that all
436
00:25:36.819 --> 00:25:39.039
the time. So mine was implanted in my hand. They
437
00:25:39.079 --> 00:25:43.799
decided it was better off in my hand. Do is
438
00:25:44.549 --> 00:25:47.309
have a purse like the ones that you see on
439
00:25:47.410 --> 00:25:51.069
the pilot. And I open my purse. It doesn't exactly
440
00:25:51.130 --> 00:25:54.259
look like that, but it's a beautiful representation of it.
441
00:25:54.650 --> 00:25:58.470
Mine's a little bit more basic than that. And I
442
00:25:58.529 --> 00:26:00.549
open it up, and I take the ball out with
443
00:26:00.609 --> 00:26:03.569
my hand, this hand. And while it's in my hand,
444
00:26:03.690 --> 00:26:06.589
I make the connection to it. And I hold it
445
00:26:06.609 --> 00:26:11.690
across my chest, chin low, and there's an arm that
446
00:26:11.730 --> 00:26:14.170
comes up on the other side with an electromagnetic hook.
447
00:26:15.190 --> 00:26:18.440
And once I initialize the ball, it It leaves my
448
00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:21.640
hand on it, it magnetically jumps out, and then it
449
00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:24.769
expands and expands, and then it'll guide up to that
450
00:26:24.849 --> 00:26:27.150
hook to hold it. It's about this far from the
451
00:26:27.210 --> 00:26:30.990
hook at all times, but it's there. And it's a space,
452
00:26:31.069 --> 00:26:35.039
an electromagnetic field space, where I now remote view to it.
453
00:26:35.130 --> 00:26:38.769
I go into it. I put my consciousness into that ball.
454
00:26:39.630 --> 00:26:42.279
It's already there waiting for me. And that's how we
455
00:26:42.319 --> 00:26:47.970
fly outside the magnetosphere. I don't need it inside. in
456
00:26:47.990 --> 00:26:51.069
our space here, but I need it outside, especially to
457
00:26:51.089 --> 00:26:55.970
light gate. That is a magnifier of energy and to
458
00:26:56.049 --> 00:26:58.970
use it together to light gate to different places.
459
00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:02.480
All right. So can you describe more about what a
460
00:27:02.539 --> 00:27:04.640
light gate is? Cause you know, people use terms like
461
00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:09.940
wormholes and portals. And that's, I think in essence, what
462
00:27:09.960 --> 00:27:13.119
they're trying to describe is more what you're talking about.
463
00:27:13.380 --> 00:27:19.960
Light gate. You know, Frequencies, they're.
464
00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:25.160
Not within humans' sound. In fact, you can't perceive them.
465
00:27:25.220 --> 00:27:29.259
They're so high up in the frequency down core, so
466
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:32.720
low that you couldn't even know how to use them.
467
00:27:32.740 --> 00:27:36.869
They're unknown to humanity because A, you're not using your abilities.
468
00:27:37.329 --> 00:27:40.750
You can't see or hear them. That's number one. And
469
00:27:40.769 --> 00:27:42.609
then the second one is you have to be very,
470
00:27:42.710 --> 00:27:46.089
very advanced in know what it sounds like, and to
471
00:27:46.349 --> 00:27:49.329
generate it in your own brain. It took me a
472
00:27:49.369 --> 00:27:52.619
long time to learn how to do that. Talata brought
473
00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:54.599
me through it first. It is a sound that I
474
00:27:54.619 --> 00:27:57.660
couldn't even describe to you. It is a frequency that
475
00:27:57.759 --> 00:28:02.440
is unbelievable. And it took me probably a year or
476
00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:06.410
more to get that correct, exactly correct, because it's a
477
00:28:06.430 --> 00:28:10.809
very specific frequency that we generate together, and it literally
478
00:28:10.970 --> 00:28:17.109
opens a dimensional grid. opening between dimensions. And then we gauge,
479
00:28:17.130 --> 00:28:20.829
I know the coordinates. I'm going to go through this
480
00:28:21.130 --> 00:28:24.259
with this to wherever it is we're going. And I
481
00:28:24.299 --> 00:28:29.059
employ that ability as well. I'm the gatekeeper and the
482
00:28:29.099 --> 00:28:32.160
gate shutter. I can open the gate with Tolada and
483
00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:34.190
then once we're on the other side of it, I
484
00:28:34.230 --> 00:28:37.440
let go and it shuts. I'm in a long line
485
00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:39.859
of other craft and we're all going through one together.
486
00:28:39.900 --> 00:28:42.700
We all employ our abilities together because the gate has
487
00:28:42.740 --> 00:28:45.859
to be much bigger. And the last person through shuts
488
00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:49.789
the gate. We're trained to do that as well. It's
489
00:28:49.849 --> 00:28:53.750
very fast. It's milliseconds through. We hold our breath when
490
00:28:53.789 --> 00:28:56.650
we get there because there is no air. We become
491
00:28:56.750 --> 00:29:00.589
interdimensional once we employ it. We are already out of
492
00:29:00.670 --> 00:29:05.970
this dimension as we create this thing. We're interdimensional as well.
493
00:29:06.009 --> 00:29:09.390
We're non-dimensional. We're outside of everything once we get through.
494
00:29:09.410 --> 00:29:14.890
And then wherever we end up, we move ourselves back
495
00:29:14.910 --> 00:29:17.029
because we're always in the third dimension when we travel.
496
00:29:17.509 --> 00:29:20.250
We get to where we're going. Everywhere I go in
497
00:29:20.289 --> 00:29:22.250
this universe is in the third dimension.
498
00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:25.559
All right. So here, let me just see if I
499
00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:28.740
have this correct. So basically, the light gate is a
500
00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:33.869
process of generating huge amounts of electricity. To a point
501
00:29:33.950 --> 00:29:37.039
that it opens up into.
502
00:29:37.109 --> 00:29:38.670
A third dimension?
503
00:29:40.230 --> 00:29:42.069
Okay, so is this going into like the fourth or
504
00:29:42.109 --> 00:29:44.150
fifth or sixth or is this beyond that?
505
00:29:45.579 --> 00:29:49.859
Through the fifth dimension. That's why Talat is so substantially
506
00:29:50.319 --> 00:29:54.839
aware for us and why they help us. It's their
507
00:29:54.859 --> 00:29:58.559
technology that I learned in this dimension who was able
508
00:29:58.619 --> 00:30:03.009
to learn it the fifth dimensional frequency that we use
509
00:30:03.190 --> 00:30:07.170
and we go right through to it. It's very fast
510
00:30:07.329 --> 00:30:13.779
and it's very, been taken to the fifth dimension like
511
00:30:16.119 --> 00:30:19.779
a handful of times in my life. And the first
512
00:30:19.799 --> 00:30:21.599
time I went to it, it had to hold me
513
00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:27.970
up because I see everything in that dimension. You see
514
00:30:28.329 --> 00:30:30.490
everything in that dimension. I can see through to the
515
00:30:30.529 --> 00:30:33.309
third dimension from the fifth dimension in ways you can't
516
00:30:33.349 --> 00:30:37.200
even explain. It made me, it's like the first experience
517
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:40.259
on craft. I wanted to puke. He was stopping me.
518
00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:43.240
And I only stayed there for about three minutes. That's
519
00:30:43.279 --> 00:30:44.940
all I could take. And they brought me back out.
520
00:30:45.940 --> 00:30:49.859
He gave me an opportunity a few times after that
521
00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:52.660
to train to go into it because they felt like
522
00:30:52.700 --> 00:30:54.650
if I did that, I would take the jump through
523
00:30:54.890 --> 00:30:57.940
the light gate much better than I did. i first
524
00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:02.250
started experiencing really really weird symptoms of going through that
525
00:31:02.289 --> 00:31:04.609
light gate i would puke i'd get dizzy i almost
526
00:31:04.630 --> 00:31:06.369
want to pass out and they had to get me
527
00:31:06.410 --> 00:31:08.829
past it so they were bringing me into fifth dimension
528
00:31:08.890 --> 00:31:10.670
to get me used to what it's like well.
529
00:31:10.609 --> 00:31:12.369
That's what i was going to say so what exactly
530
00:31:12.390 --> 00:31:14.269
does it feel like when you you know because you're
531
00:31:14.289 --> 00:31:17.240
there in the craft and it's all third dimensional but
532
00:31:17.299 --> 00:31:19.160
then the gate opens up and you go through it
533
00:31:19.240 --> 00:31:21.059
and you come back out what does that feel like
534
00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:21.740
does it.
535
00:31:21.740 --> 00:31:24.900
Feel like you lose all cohesion with your physical form
536
00:31:25.099 --> 00:31:34.500
it It lights up. My molecules, like, you know, you
537
00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:36.470
look at your hand, you know it's there, you see it,
538
00:31:36.849 --> 00:31:41.769
but it's no longer physical. You become light. Wow.
539
00:31:42.930 --> 00:31:46.670
So you can travel any distance through a light gate?
540
00:31:46.930 --> 00:31:49.839
Yes, we can go any distance. One of the things
541
00:31:49.900 --> 00:31:53.839
I had to learn was coordinates, right? where i am
542
00:31:53.859 --> 00:31:56.119
i have an eidetic memory and one of my talents
543
00:31:56.220 --> 00:31:59.180
in life is that i remember everywhere i've ever gone
544
00:31:59.259 --> 00:31:59.819
i never get.
545
00:31:59.740 --> 00:32:00.079
Lost and.
546
00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:05.400
Employ that and learning where i'm going go somewhere i
547
00:32:05.640 --> 00:32:07.920
have to have already been there to know where it
548
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:12.220
is so part of the training is another or pilot
549
00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:16.660
takes you there teaches you where that is and you
550
00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:18.700
jump with them a couple times and then you got
551
00:32:18.740 --> 00:32:22.259
it and it's in your mind and you know This
552
00:32:22.339 --> 00:32:26.549
is critical. Without the ability to do that, you can't
553
00:32:26.589 --> 00:32:32.250
pilot a craft. It made me learn everywhere I go.
554
00:32:33.109 --> 00:32:36.349
I'm absolutely top where they are. I can go at
555
00:32:36.470 --> 00:32:36.829
any time.
556
00:32:38.069 --> 00:32:45.380
This just underlies how truly integrated travel and these crafts themselves,
557
00:32:45.460 --> 00:32:51.640
technologically speaking, are with psychic abilities and Other dimensions, I guess,
558
00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:53.839
is the way of putting it. So the craft themselves
559
00:32:53.859 --> 00:32:56.619
are partly, I think you mentioned this once, if I
560
00:32:56.640 --> 00:33:01.380
remember correctly, partly built in other dimensional ways.
561
00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:09.109
Especially the element comes from the fifth dimension. It's created there.
562
00:33:09.769 --> 00:33:12.289
It's very specific and it can't be created in our dimension.
563
00:33:12.349 --> 00:33:15.490
It wouldn't exist here. And they're trying to make it
564
00:33:15.549 --> 00:33:17.869
now and they're never going to make it. It's too hard.
565
00:33:18.829 --> 00:33:20.809
to be in that dimension and then they ship it
566
00:33:20.990 --> 00:33:23.779
in with the craft at that time.
567
00:33:24.819 --> 00:33:27.799
Okay so another point I kind of wanted to go
568
00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:31.259
over was when science fiction it's all about faster than
569
00:33:31.299 --> 00:33:35.319
light travel and if you know your science and know
570
00:33:35.339 --> 00:33:41.569
your physics it's absolutely really impossible to go speed of
571
00:33:41.630 --> 00:33:44.309
light because the faster you go the more your mass
572
00:33:44.349 --> 00:33:46.490
increases So these.
573
00:33:46.250 --> 00:33:48.630
Guys are traveling. Part of the seams, yes.
574
00:33:49.069 --> 00:33:50.859
So you're not traveling at the speed of light by
575
00:33:50.910 --> 00:33:52.420
any means, right?
576
00:33:54.059 --> 00:33:56.500
I'm going through a light gate that takes a millisecond
577
00:33:56.519 --> 00:34:00.000
to get me from one space to another. It's described here.
578
00:34:00.019 --> 00:34:06.240
I find it represented as folding space. We're going away
579
00:34:06.259 --> 00:34:10.059
from here to here. It's folding space. And you can
580
00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:13.739
get the gate really close this way. go through, so
581
00:34:13.780 --> 00:34:18.599
you've gone this many miles in a millisecond, and you
582
00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:21.239
generate the light. The light already knows it's there. It's
583
00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:23.599
all part of everything, and you land there.
584
00:34:24.699 --> 00:34:27.730
That's what I can describe that. What I'd really like
585
00:34:27.750 --> 00:34:31.750
to do is read a short quote to you from
586
00:34:31.789 --> 00:34:34.590
this gentleman I interviewed. I'm using a pseudonym. His name
587
00:34:34.630 --> 00:34:38.210
is Carter. I have not publicly revealed his story yet.
588
00:34:38.309 --> 00:34:42.539
It's coming in a forthcoming book. But he started talking
589
00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:48.119
about this experience he had. It actually was on Hawaii
590
00:34:48.159 --> 00:34:50.460
where he was with his wife off-grid in a cabin.
591
00:34:51.389 --> 00:34:54.789
And the whole cabin filled with white light. Twice, actually.
592
00:34:54.809 --> 00:34:59.050
They woke up sometime later. I think having had missing time.
593
00:34:59.949 --> 00:35:02.050
He had a mark on his left arm. She had
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00:35:02.130 --> 00:35:05.670
one on her right. Both in the same spot. And she...
595
00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:08.219
He's like, did you have any memories of what happened?
596
00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:10.079
She's like, well, yeah, I remember being in this weird
597
00:35:10.179 --> 00:35:13.219
craft and I think I saw a gray and so forth.
598
00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:17.139
And he remembered something really interesting as well. And this
599
00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:18.659
is what I'd like to quote. It's just about a
600
00:35:18.699 --> 00:35:21.400
minute long, but it reminds me, Dolly, so much of
601
00:35:21.460 --> 00:35:25.059
how you described becoming one with a craft and how
602
00:35:25.079 --> 00:35:27.820
they're flown psychically. Because that's what it sounds like happened
603
00:35:27.860 --> 00:35:30.599
to him. And I'll just quote him here as he says.
604
00:35:31.650 --> 00:35:34.250
This whole thing just unfolded in my head. I'm hoping
605
00:35:34.269 --> 00:35:39.090
you can comment on this. This whole thing just unfolded
606
00:35:39.130 --> 00:35:43.530
in my head. I was like almost a specialist kind
607
00:35:43.570 --> 00:35:47.289
of pilot. And I, my consciousness, had been put into
608
00:35:47.329 --> 00:35:51.730
this UFO type of machine. My consciousness. This machine was
609
00:35:51.829 --> 00:35:55.449
so sophisticated. It was like a living nervous system that
610
00:35:55.550 --> 00:35:59.039
needs a living consciousness to operate it. Just like our
611
00:35:59.059 --> 00:36:03.360
physical bodies. I was test piloting some kind of new system.
612
00:36:03.800 --> 00:36:06.539
It was like I was immersed in it. I was inside.
613
00:36:07.179 --> 00:36:11.400
I was the consciousness inside the living wiring of this thing.
614
00:36:11.420 --> 00:36:15.360
It was very complex. As complex as the body, just
615
00:36:15.380 --> 00:36:17.639
look at all the systems in the body and the
616
00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:21.409
layers of complexity for digestion, circulation, and so forth. It
617
00:36:21.429 --> 00:36:24.190
was like that, but when I think of it, it
618
00:36:24.230 --> 00:36:26.869
was like it was all golden. It was like everything
619
00:36:26.909 --> 00:36:30.510
was made of gold filaments. Everything was golden and clean
620
00:36:30.570 --> 00:36:35.610
and super precise and yet living. It had a living
621
00:36:35.650 --> 00:36:39.449
dynamic to it. It was super responsive to your consciousness,
622
00:36:39.820 --> 00:36:43.619
whatever I was thinking. So yeah, he had the feeling
623
00:36:43.659 --> 00:36:46.679
like he was learning how to pilot these craft. And
624
00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:48.599
how he described it reminded me so much of what
625
00:36:48.619 --> 00:36:53.340
you're saying. It's not only like a living system, but
626
00:36:53.380 --> 00:36:57.360
you're psychically joined to it to a degree where you
627
00:36:57.380 --> 00:37:01.320
almost lose your own Well, not lose, but join with
628
00:37:01.340 --> 00:37:04.559
the awareness of the craft. So does that sound familiar
629
00:37:04.599 --> 00:37:05.300
to you, what he's saying?
630
00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:09.099
Absolutely, yes. Deadline, yes.
631
00:37:10.300 --> 00:37:12.110
So what do you think about his description of it
632
00:37:12.130 --> 00:37:16.190
being like all gold filaments and super clean and precise?
633
00:37:16.369 --> 00:37:20.889
He's precise, that's right. Everything lights up and the golden
634
00:37:20.929 --> 00:37:26.030
color is much the perception you get of it, it's golden.
635
00:37:26.050 --> 00:37:27.360
Wow.
636
00:37:28.139 --> 00:37:28.300
Wow.
637
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:31.500
That's very cool. So you did this the first time.
638
00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:33.119
How did you feel afterwards?
639
00:37:34.750 --> 00:37:38.449
Exhausted. It took it out of me. I was tired.
640
00:37:38.469 --> 00:37:43.590
Oh my God, I was tired. I realized that the
641
00:37:45.269 --> 00:37:49.940
gravity I was doing in that moment was not something
642
00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:53.800
I was going to play. It was reality to me.
643
00:37:54.360 --> 00:37:59.449
And Like I said, the gravity of it was all-encompassing,
644
00:37:59.510 --> 00:38:03.559
and it sat me down emotionally and down for a
645
00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:09.500
few days. I was immensely, I don't know how to
646
00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:14.690
describe it. It just sort of hits you right through
647
00:38:14.710 --> 00:38:17.690
your own chest, you know, right where you live. And
648
00:38:17.969 --> 00:38:21.389
I had to think, hopefully, that moment on when I
649
00:38:21.429 --> 00:38:25.650
was doing, it compelled me not screw up after that.
650
00:38:26.150 --> 00:38:29.570
That's how serious it was. That's how emotional it was.
651
00:38:29.630 --> 00:38:34.340
That's how unbelievably cool it was. And it made me
652
00:38:34.429 --> 00:38:40.860
realize that I'm this teeny, weeny girl. You know, and
653
00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:44.420
I was like, namaste, okay. You know, we're good.
654
00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:48.369
It's amazing. You're a teenager learning all this stuff. Well,
655
00:38:48.409 --> 00:38:51.070
you're 19, pretty much an adult, but still a teenager. Yeah.
656
00:38:51.969 --> 00:38:54.630
And there were other people you had learned with as well.
657
00:38:54.650 --> 00:38:57.429
You made an interesting comment that most of them were women.
658
00:38:57.449 --> 00:38:58.869
Is that right?
659
00:38:59.730 --> 00:39:05.340
Women's brains, female brain, let's put it correctly. The female
660
00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:15.670
physiological mind is more flexibly what she's feeling and doing
661
00:39:15.690 --> 00:39:19.460
in her body. It's the hormone access, the chemicals that
662
00:39:19.480 --> 00:39:22.920
we produce, that sort of thing makes us physically quicker
663
00:39:23.699 --> 00:39:28.250
than men are. That's only one aspect of it, though,
664
00:39:28.289 --> 00:39:32.050
because we are all consciousness. And outside of our bodies,
665
00:39:32.130 --> 00:39:37.239
our consciousness is capable of anything you are specifically doing.
666
00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:40.260
But your brain, how you are in this iteration, in
667
00:39:40.300 --> 00:39:42.659
this life that you're living now, is tuned to that.
668
00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:46.119
And so when you're indwelling in the craft, you're thinking
669
00:39:46.139 --> 00:39:49.800
with a female mindset. And the males are thinking with
670
00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:53.119
male mindsets. It doesn't matter what I'm doing in this lifetime,
671
00:39:53.139 --> 00:39:55.860
I'm still going to be a female. If I was
672
00:39:55.900 --> 00:39:57.860
to be born again and I went to pilot again
673
00:39:58.019 --> 00:40:00.480
and I was a male, I would be less likely
674
00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:02.380
to get the seat because of that.
675
00:40:03.260 --> 00:40:04.420
But there are male pilots.
676
00:40:05.099 --> 00:40:08.269
Absolutely, because you can learn anything. If you have a
677
00:40:08.289 --> 00:40:10.809
mind to do it, you can do anything. And it's
678
00:40:10.869 --> 00:40:11.949
a fact. All right.
679
00:40:11.989 --> 00:40:14.030
So after you learn how to do this and you're
680
00:40:14.050 --> 00:40:16.929
comfortable to do it, you started doing more complex things
681
00:40:16.969 --> 00:40:19.440
like flying with other people. Is that right? I mean,
682
00:40:19.500 --> 00:40:24.559
in terms of first a couple and then being part
683
00:40:24.599 --> 00:40:25.599
of a fleet, right?
684
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:32.380
Yeah, getting on board. There's many aspects of this. I mean,
685
00:40:32.420 --> 00:40:35.059
we're not just flying outside of a craft in our
686
00:40:35.099 --> 00:40:38.719
own craft. We have to board other craft to travel
687
00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:41.900
great distances sometimes or just need a break and we'll
688
00:40:41.920 --> 00:40:44.099
go into a large craft to take a break. So
689
00:40:44.119 --> 00:40:46.300
you have to learn how to get on the ship
690
00:40:46.539 --> 00:40:48.780
with them. And if there's a lot of us doing it,
691
00:40:48.780 --> 00:40:53.900
there's a real learning curve there. You know, knock somebody down,
692
00:40:54.059 --> 00:40:56.800
you don't want your field to bother their field. You
693
00:40:56.929 --> 00:40:59.789
want to think precisely in a certain way. When we're
694
00:40:59.809 --> 00:41:02.989
coming down on this planet, we're dealing with what's in
695
00:41:03.010 --> 00:41:06.090
the air here. And it's not just airplanes and jets.
696
00:41:07.210 --> 00:41:11.820
It's animals that are in the skies. It's a journey.
697
00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:14.860
Did you ever take any, like, just fun joy rides? Like,
698
00:41:15.219 --> 00:41:16.679
I just want to do something for fun.
699
00:41:16.699 --> 00:41:22.940
You get permission. You give them an idea of what
700
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:25.780
you're doing, like a flight plan. They give you a
701
00:41:25.820 --> 00:41:29.460
time that you schedule it, and then you go. There
702
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:32.699
are definite set rules. I can't display to anybody. I
703
00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:37.610
have to be stealthy. It's this planet. I have to
704
00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:41.619
be really stealthy. another planet and another system uh there
705
00:41:41.699 --> 00:41:43.460
are planets that are wide open and you can just
706
00:41:43.500 --> 00:41:45.460
enjoy riding anywhere you want to go sort of like
707
00:41:45.500 --> 00:41:48.869
a place you know have fun or even within the
708
00:41:48.949 --> 00:41:51.550
systems but you're time limited to that because when you're
709
00:41:51.570 --> 00:41:55.710
outside of magnetosphere radiation is not your friend it's not
710
00:41:55.750 --> 00:41:58.789
a friend to the craft or tolada and either and
711
00:41:59.150 --> 00:42:01.550
so be careful yeah.
712
00:42:02.139 --> 00:42:06.280
Well one guy interviewed tim from louisiana uh described how
713
00:42:06.300 --> 00:42:10.000
they took him on board and up to the control room,
714
00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:12.840
as they call it, the place of movement. And they
715
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:14.800
were describing how they do it. And he had the
716
00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:18.019
impression that these were young, kind of teenage grays, if
717
00:42:18.059 --> 00:42:20.610
you will, that they were still learning and they were like,
718
00:42:20.659 --> 00:42:22.349
let's try this, let's try that maneuver. And they were
719
00:42:22.369 --> 00:42:23.250
having a good time with it.
720
00:42:24.130 --> 00:42:28.230
Absolutely. On days like that, yes. I wanted to flex
721
00:42:28.309 --> 00:42:32.269
my mind out. I wanted to flex my abilities. And
722
00:42:32.289 --> 00:42:35.539
you can only do that by pushing yourself. And those
723
00:42:35.619 --> 00:42:37.000
are the days when it gets a little fun.
724
00:42:37.690 --> 00:42:40.250
I want to read another really short quote because there
725
00:42:40.289 --> 00:42:43.730
was a guy that I interviewed in this book, Onboard
726
00:42:44.230 --> 00:42:48.409
UFO Experiences, Jay Gardner, who had an experience very much
727
00:42:48.449 --> 00:42:51.989
like yours. I think he was 14 or 12, actually 12,
728
00:42:51.989 --> 00:42:56.139
when he was taken to the planet Saturn, like you described.
729
00:42:56.179 --> 00:42:58.840
And at one point, they sat him down in the seat.
730
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:03.159
And they gave him what he perceived as sort of
731
00:43:03.199 --> 00:43:06.639
a joystick. But here's what he says happened. I took
732
00:43:06.659 --> 00:43:11.070
the controls. and accidentally drove the craft right into the ground.
733
00:43:11.670 --> 00:43:14.610
I could see the rocks. We were passing through the rocks,
734
00:43:14.670 --> 00:43:17.869
and there were all these sparks flying, dirt and everything.
735
00:43:17.889 --> 00:43:22.780
And at that point, the actual pilot took back control
736
00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:26.039
of the craft. So is that something that can happen?
737
00:43:26.079 --> 00:43:28.280
Can you actually go physically into the ground?
738
00:43:29.860 --> 00:43:36.300
We're in different phases of power. And we're employing different
739
00:43:36.659 --> 00:43:42.280
modalities of flight. Yeah, that's an interesting word. And we
740
00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:46.199
can be ethereal. In other words, non-dimensional. We go outside
741
00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:48.340
this dimension we're here and we're there at the same time.
742
00:43:48.360 --> 00:43:51.599
And we can go through things. I can go through
743
00:43:51.619 --> 00:43:55.500
any building, go through the planet itself, although we don't
744
00:43:55.539 --> 00:43:59.139
go deep. But we can. We can go into the water.
745
00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:02.300
Sometimes you can go sit in the trees if you
746
00:44:02.340 --> 00:44:02.780
want to.
747
00:44:04.179 --> 00:44:12.469
Have you done all these things then? Yeah. Have you ever, like, gone, like.
748
00:44:12.789 --> 00:44:15.340
Don't pelt it to the ground, okay? I managed to
749
00:44:15.409 --> 00:44:18.639
not do that one. Thank you. But, yeah, I've done
750
00:44:18.679 --> 00:44:23.179
some really... It's like cutting through butter. You know, you
751
00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:26.340
just go whoop, and you're there. And it's mind-blowing because
752
00:44:26.360 --> 00:44:28.260
you've seen it when you're doing it, and you're thinking,
753
00:44:28.300 --> 00:44:32.030
that's going to hurt. Go right through it.
754
00:44:32.150 --> 00:44:33.829
I think you described one incident. I don't know if
755
00:44:33.849 --> 00:44:35.869
this was in the book, but I heard another guy...
756
00:44:36.789 --> 00:44:39.329
online talking about how he was taken on board a
757
00:44:39.349 --> 00:44:42.650
craft but this craft actually came right into the house
758
00:44:42.690 --> 00:44:46.530
and physically so next thing he knows he's on board
759
00:44:46.550 --> 00:44:49.849
even though uh they didn't pull him up and it
760
00:44:50.190 --> 00:44:53.010
came into through the house yeah.
761
00:44:52.739 --> 00:44:54.719
When i was when i was older i was in
762
00:44:54.739 --> 00:44:57.039
the house one night it's after my father passed away
763
00:44:57.760 --> 00:44:59.539
i'm laying there and i'm thinking you know i've never
764
00:44:59.619 --> 00:45:02.559
actually got to see y'all come through the wall And
765
00:45:02.619 --> 00:45:05.480
Talos was laughing at me. And I said, no, seriously,
766
00:45:05.500 --> 00:45:07.420
I want to see you come through the wall. And
767
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:10.940
I begged for days. And then one night I got
768
00:45:11.139 --> 00:45:14.719
the answer. Talos said, you have an incoming prayer. I
769
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:17.719
was like, okay, cool. And it's not a white light
770
00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:20.070
that lights you up. It's a red light. And you
771
00:45:20.090 --> 00:45:22.190
see them, I see them anyway, coming in as a
772
00:45:22.250 --> 00:45:25.329
red glow. And it literally came right through my bedroom
773
00:45:25.349 --> 00:45:28.869
about Not the whole crowd shown in the room, but
774
00:45:28.889 --> 00:45:31.090
the bottom half of it did. And they came right
775
00:45:31.130 --> 00:45:34.250
through the house real slow, laughing the whole way through.
776
00:45:34.789 --> 00:45:37.230
And I was just like, oh, my God, is that
777
00:45:37.250 --> 00:45:39.989
what people see? And sometimes people do get to see
778
00:45:40.030 --> 00:45:42.650
that happen because they're picking them up that way. They'll
779
00:45:42.670 --> 00:45:44.989
pull you in and go right through your house to
780
00:45:45.010 --> 00:45:48.179
get you. And I've never done that. I've never done that.
781
00:45:48.199 --> 00:45:52.159
That's not how I do pickups. And it was cool
782
00:45:52.179 --> 00:45:55.619
as hell. They can go through anything. Yep.
783
00:45:56.320 --> 00:45:59.119
So when you go into the water, what's that like?
784
00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:01.119
Do you feel it?
785
00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:03.539
No, it's like you know you're in water. In other words,
786
00:46:03.559 --> 00:46:06.639
I know when I'm in the sky, I know when
787
00:46:06.659 --> 00:46:07.920
I'm in the air, and I know when I'm close
788
00:46:07.960 --> 00:46:10.179
to the ground, and I know if I can go
789
00:46:10.199 --> 00:46:15.179
through the treetops or whatever. I perceive it. Water is
790
00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:17.699
different because you almost want to hold your breath when
791
00:46:17.719 --> 00:46:20.900
you're going in because you think, because you can see
792
00:46:20.920 --> 00:46:23.119
the water, you're going into the water. I don't feel
793
00:46:23.179 --> 00:46:26.449
a splash, I don't feel the barrier of the water.
794
00:46:26.469 --> 00:46:28.289
It's just air to me. I'm going through it. We
795
00:46:30.170 --> 00:46:34.510
go down to a depth and we will sometimes cool
796
00:46:34.570 --> 00:46:37.150
off that way so that we can make a physical
797
00:46:37.690 --> 00:46:39.969
pickup of somebody. You've got to cool the craft down.
798
00:46:41.150 --> 00:46:43.469
It's too dangerous for them to come at us when
799
00:46:43.510 --> 00:46:48.199
we're that hot. It's kind of cool. We also open
800
00:46:48.219 --> 00:46:51.440
blankets underwater. Most people don't understand that. A lot of
801
00:46:51.460 --> 00:46:54.760
people report, I saw light under my boat, everything lit up.
802
00:46:55.340 --> 00:46:56.789
That's the light gating operation.
803
00:46:57.809 --> 00:47:01.619
Oh, wow. Very, very cool. Have you ever chased a.
804
00:47:01.610 --> 00:47:04.329
We transition to some worlds where there are water worlds.
805
00:47:05.250 --> 00:47:07.949
We do transition from water to water world, and the
806
00:47:07.969 --> 00:47:11.929
light gating water will go through that way. It happens
807
00:47:11.949 --> 00:47:16.360
a lot. I mean, the area that I'm flying is
808
00:47:16.409 --> 00:47:20.440
near the lakes. I've gone into the Great Lakes quite
809
00:47:20.460 --> 00:47:21.599
a few times to light gate.
810
00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:28.320
Yeah. So when you're flying... There's, you know, interstellar travel,
811
00:47:28.340 --> 00:47:30.300
which is opening a light gate and boom, you're there.
812
00:47:30.659 --> 00:47:33.489
But then there's interplanetary, you're over a planet and you're
813
00:47:33.510 --> 00:47:37.769
surfing the gravitational field lines. So when you're doing that,
814
00:47:37.829 --> 00:47:42.969
there's no buttons or knobs. You're just connecting mentally, psychically.
815
00:47:44.650 --> 00:47:47.760
All right. So that's including when you.
816
00:47:47.769 --> 00:47:57.389
No transistors. No, there's no... No computers. There are no
817
00:47:58.329 --> 00:48:02.360
digital anything on board a craft. The craft, every system
818
00:48:02.440 --> 00:48:05.539
is separate because Talata's running them psychically. He's part of
819
00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:08.639
the craft and he doesn't need connections between things. He's
820
00:48:08.679 --> 00:48:11.940
the whole craft at one time. So no, I don't
821
00:48:11.960 --> 00:48:13.320
need any of that. It's all mental.
822
00:48:13.340 --> 00:48:15.789
All right. Have you ever chased a car down the
823
00:48:15.829 --> 00:48:28.440
road while you're like... I saw... Cause they do that. Okay.
824
00:48:28.780 --> 00:48:30.800
When I was young, young.
825
00:48:30.940 --> 00:48:31.219
Okay.
826
00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:32.610
This was in what?
827
00:48:32.610 --> 00:48:32.760
76, 77.
828
00:48:32.760 --> 00:48:36.469
It came out. I'm still very young then. And, uh,
829
00:48:36.510 --> 00:48:39.889
I got the idea. Ooh, that looks like fun. And
830
00:48:39.909 --> 00:48:41.650
this is one of those things that I pushed the
831
00:48:41.690 --> 00:48:46.170
gate with. And, uh, we were out West, not Midwest. Okay. Indiana.
832
00:48:46.710 --> 00:48:49.099
It was one of those long boat roads, you know,
833
00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:51.840
hardly anybody out there. And we saw a car. Hmm.
834
00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:55.440
came down and i just sort of followed him for
835
00:48:55.460 --> 00:48:57.699
a while until he realized and i put white patterns
836
00:48:57.780 --> 00:48:59.869
on so i think i was the car first and
837
00:48:59.909 --> 00:49:04.809
the guy freaked out he hit the gas and i
838
00:49:04.809 --> 00:49:06.889
was like do i keep up you know so i
839
00:49:06.909 --> 00:49:08.429
chased him for a little while i went above him
840
00:49:08.469 --> 00:49:10.489
and then i went in front of him and stopped
841
00:49:10.949 --> 00:49:13.179
and he's i mean he spun the car around a
842
00:49:13.219 --> 00:49:15.619
little bit trying to stop and he's just staring at
843
00:49:15.699 --> 00:49:17.780
us and i was like okay enough enough we're going
844
00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:22.039
and i left and uh when i hear you talking
845
00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:25.179
about things i silently think about these incidents in my
846
00:49:25.219 --> 00:49:27.809
life and i'm like waiting to hear that how you
847
00:49:27.849 --> 00:49:29.909
know somebody described that so i don't talk about it
848
00:49:29.949 --> 00:49:32.630
too often but that is one of the ones that
849
00:49:32.670 --> 00:49:33.130
i did.
850
00:49:32.969 --> 00:49:35.289
Yeah yeah well this is what i mean when i
851
00:49:35.289 --> 00:49:38.610
say I always learn something new because this is a
852
00:49:38.670 --> 00:49:41.909
lifetime of experiences for you. It's really impossible to cover
853
00:49:41.949 --> 00:49:44.409
in one book. It's really why I wanted to do
854
00:49:44.429 --> 00:49:48.539
this interview today because there's so much to learn about
855
00:49:48.699 --> 00:49:51.440
all of this. So we've covered a lot. I was
856
00:49:51.500 --> 00:49:54.119
wondering if you could talk a little bit more about
857
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:57.139
some of the close calls you've had. Have you ever
858
00:49:57.199 --> 00:50:00.679
missed a light gate or have you ever dropped when
859
00:50:00.699 --> 00:50:05.989
the gravitational field lines become too wonky? I mean, could
860
00:50:06.030 --> 00:50:08.849
you describe some of the more weird close calls you
861
00:50:08.869 --> 00:50:10.710
may have had? Just a couple examples.
862
00:50:12.860 --> 00:50:20.480
We were up, and it was daylight. Field guideline, and
863
00:50:20.599 --> 00:50:24.670
it was at the 37th parallel. And it just went
864
00:50:27.090 --> 00:50:31.110
left by several hundred feet suddenly. It had nothing under me.
865
00:50:31.869 --> 00:50:34.989
And my instinct is to jump. to power up to
866
00:50:35.030 --> 00:50:37.949
a power up you'll see the whole craft light up
867
00:50:38.130 --> 00:50:41.469
instantly and i go from battery straight to nuclear at
868
00:50:41.510 --> 00:50:45.929
that point i'm i want my i want my ability
869
00:50:45.949 --> 00:50:48.710
to use my own gravitational ability to get out there
870
00:50:49.630 --> 00:50:52.150
and drop to about six thousand feet i was way
871
00:50:52.210 --> 00:50:54.570
up there and i just dropped and i felt it
872
00:50:54.809 --> 00:50:56.590
i physically felt it i was like oh god you
873
00:50:56.610 --> 00:50:59.860
know but i We got it going, and I could
874
00:50:59.880 --> 00:51:02.780
hear Talata in the background going, good, good, good, good catch,
875
00:51:02.820 --> 00:51:05.340
good catch, because it got him by surprise, too. This
876
00:51:05.420 --> 00:51:07.780
one just shifted all the way to the left. That
877
00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:11.429
scared the holy Jesus out of me, okay? And I realized, oh,
878
00:51:11.449 --> 00:51:13.369
my God, we can crash. You know, this is not
879
00:51:13.429 --> 00:51:16.170
a joke. If we had hit it with no field,
880
00:51:16.190 --> 00:51:18.230
the whole craft would have busted up. It would have
881
00:51:18.250 --> 00:51:19.829
been bad, and people would have been hurt under me.
882
00:51:20.889 --> 00:51:22.769
That scared the hell out of me. It left a
883
00:51:22.829 --> 00:51:27.190
mark in my brain. Don't do that. I became ultra
884
00:51:27.289 --> 00:51:37.559
aware after that. I mean, my brain was constantly. And
885
00:51:37.579 --> 00:51:41.179
it served me well, trust me. Another thing that happened
886
00:51:41.219 --> 00:51:44.940
to me is through a light gate. I ended up
887
00:51:44.980 --> 00:51:47.019
going somewhere I wasn't supposed to. I didn't know. I
888
00:51:47.059 --> 00:51:48.920
don't know how I messed that up. I was young.
889
00:51:48.940 --> 00:51:52.280
I ended up somewhere I wasn't supposed to be. And
890
00:51:52.300 --> 00:51:54.269
it was a big shock to me. We got on
891
00:51:54.289 --> 00:51:56.610
the other side of that gate and stabilized on it.
892
00:51:57.630 --> 00:52:00.730
And Tawata was dead silent. We just sat there for
893
00:52:00.750 --> 00:52:03.369
a few minutes and he said, well, are we going
894
00:52:03.389 --> 00:52:05.869
to go or not? I was like, okay. I had
895
00:52:05.889 --> 00:52:08.320
to recapture myself because I thought, how did I make
896
00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:12.260
that mistake? I got debriefed on that one. They literally
897
00:52:12.300 --> 00:52:14.360
sat me down and said, what were you doing? What
898
00:52:14.380 --> 00:52:17.099
were you thinking? They wanted to know every second of
899
00:52:17.159 --> 00:52:19.599
what I was thinking to get me to the wrong place.
900
00:52:20.340 --> 00:52:22.400
And I got worked on a little bit with that,
901
00:52:22.420 --> 00:52:25.179
you know, don't do that again. that could be bad.
902
00:52:26.300 --> 00:52:29.320
So yeah, that was a big one for me. I
903
00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:31.539
felt like a dummy for a while, you know, I
904
00:52:31.619 --> 00:52:36.329
was berating myself everywhere, like it scared me. Let's see,
905
00:52:36.349 --> 00:52:41.429
what's another dumb stupid thing I'm done? Come in, get
906
00:52:41.510 --> 00:52:43.809
ready to juice up, in other words, light up, power up.
907
00:52:45.190 --> 00:52:47.659
You have to bring the batteries up, they drop down somewhat,
908
00:52:47.719 --> 00:52:50.920
that's why you see a bottom part of the craft
909
00:52:50.940 --> 00:52:54.010
that's sort of like lowered, That's the battery packs coming
910
00:52:54.050 --> 00:53:03.889
down in the bigger craft. Man, just powered up and
911
00:53:03.989 --> 00:53:06.400
that causes a problem with your field. OK, if you
912
00:53:06.420 --> 00:53:09.420
got something sticking out on the craft, it can mess
913
00:53:09.480 --> 00:53:12.920
with the field somewhat and that causes a wonkiness getting
914
00:53:12.940 --> 00:53:15.300
out of the atmosphere. That was a weird day for
915
00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:19.000
me too. It's just these are just stupid things that
916
00:53:19.059 --> 00:53:21.300
happen to you until you learn not to forget to
917
00:53:21.340 --> 00:53:21.599
do them.
918
00:53:23.349 --> 00:53:25.690
Alright, have you ever like knocked out the electronics of
919
00:53:25.710 --> 00:53:29.409
someone's house accidentally or something like that?
920
00:53:30.670 --> 00:53:34.090
I've been coming in. You're not oriented properly. The craft
921
00:53:34.110 --> 00:53:38.849
has a definite the EMP that the craft produces is.
922
00:53:41.489 --> 00:53:46.630
A field of it. Larry on the craft, even more
923
00:53:46.710 --> 00:53:49.329
of the South or East or West, whichever way we're turning,
924
00:53:49.389 --> 00:53:54.969
directing or using the field lines. If you're Facing something
925
00:53:55.050 --> 00:53:57.329
directly facing something the MP is in front of you,
926
00:53:58.210 --> 00:54:02.030
whatever direction you're going in when you're incoming coming down
927
00:54:02.190 --> 00:54:03.900
you turn away from it, you turn around from it,
928
00:54:03.949 --> 00:54:05.610
I don't need to see what's in front of me
929
00:54:05.630 --> 00:54:11.400
to guide this craft know components younger i'm in the neighborhood.
930
00:54:13.510 --> 00:54:16.170
that wasn't funny or car on the highway and they're
931
00:54:16.190 --> 00:54:17.789
just suddenly going oh my god you know and you
932
00:54:17.809 --> 00:54:19.969
worry about them crashing because when the car goes dead
933
00:54:20.010 --> 00:54:22.170
and the wheels are moving it goes dead and the
934
00:54:22.210 --> 00:54:24.250
wheels are moving and they can't you know you don't
935
00:54:24.289 --> 00:54:28.090
have power steering that's great because you can yeah but
936
00:54:28.130 --> 00:54:31.230
if you have power steering they're kind of screwed so
937
00:54:31.250 --> 00:54:32.679
yeah i have to be very careful with that and
938
00:54:32.719 --> 00:54:35.039
yes i accidentally knocked power out yep.
939
00:54:36.099 --> 00:54:38.659
Has anyone like tried to photograph you when they weren't
940
00:54:38.679 --> 00:54:41.119
allowed and like that.
941
00:54:40.900 --> 00:54:44.090
We The closer I am to you, the less likely
942
00:54:44.119 --> 00:54:47.570
you're going to get a picture. We hold out at
943
00:54:47.630 --> 00:54:50.829
about 3,000. If we're 3,000 feet away from you, you
944
00:54:50.849 --> 00:54:52.889
have a really good chance of getting us on film.
945
00:54:53.690 --> 00:54:56.309
Anything closer in than 3,000 feet, you're not going to
946
00:54:56.329 --> 00:54:59.170
because your camera, your digital camera, even the film itself
947
00:54:59.230 --> 00:55:02.969
can't handle that radiation and it'll knock it out. It'll
948
00:55:03.010 --> 00:55:06.570
stop it dead. We know what you're doing. We know
949
00:55:06.590 --> 00:55:08.980
you've got a camera in your hand and we know
950
00:55:09.039 --> 00:55:11.550
you're pointing it at us. We don't want you to
951
00:55:11.610 --> 00:55:14.380
see us. We turn to face you so that you can't.
952
00:55:16.059 --> 00:55:18.119
We allow the MP to just knock it out and
953
00:55:18.139 --> 00:55:20.380
move that rock again. Yeah.
954
00:55:20.659 --> 00:55:22.880
This is all really interesting to me because, you know,
955
00:55:22.900 --> 00:55:25.880
when you first start talking about piloting the craft, I
956
00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:28.519
had heard this before and it was really even more
957
00:55:29.219 --> 00:55:35.289
confirmation for me, certainly, when Canadian researcher Grant Cameron put
958
00:55:35.349 --> 00:55:39.590
out his book Sky Pilots, which, you know, basically presents
959
00:55:39.610 --> 00:55:42.030
the I think it's more than a dozen cases of
960
00:55:42.070 --> 00:55:45.340
people who've described the same sort of experience. So would
961
00:55:45.360 --> 00:55:48.599
you say this is something that commonly teach other people
962
00:55:49.079 --> 00:55:49.559
how to do?
963
00:55:49.579 --> 00:55:51.340
There's more than 10 of.
964
00:55:53.119 --> 00:55:53.199
Us.
965
00:55:53.300 --> 00:55:56.380
I guarantee you there's lots of us. They want us
966
00:55:56.579 --> 00:55:59.280
to catch up with them. If you have abilities and
967
00:55:59.320 --> 00:56:01.639
they single you out for them, you have a very
968
00:56:01.679 --> 00:56:04.659
high chance of being offered this opportunity. And there are
969
00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:07.769
plenty of people on this planet who have taken that opportunity.
970
00:56:07.829 --> 00:56:08.650
I'm not the only one.
971
00:56:09.559 --> 00:56:11.360
Do they not have their own pilots? I mean, why
972
00:56:11.380 --> 00:56:14.300
would they need to teach us?
973
00:56:14.739 --> 00:56:18.880
Situation is unique. And one of the situations that we're
974
00:56:18.940 --> 00:56:20.579
facing here is that we're at the end of a
975
00:56:20.639 --> 00:56:22.889
cycle and they're going to need a lot of craft
976
00:56:22.909 --> 00:56:24.750
to pick up a lot of people at the same time.
977
00:56:25.530 --> 00:56:30.110
And it's better for us. A human opens the door.
978
00:56:30.130 --> 00:56:35.860
It's the call get on now. prepped everybody for this.
979
00:56:35.949 --> 00:56:39.250
They've been sending mental messages to everybody on this planet
980
00:56:39.289 --> 00:56:42.750
that they're coming. The day will happen. We'll come down
981
00:56:42.929 --> 00:56:45.750
and remove humanity from the planet because it will not
982
00:56:46.210 --> 00:56:50.210
be safe here anymore. And it's coming to that soon, rapidly.
983
00:56:50.230 --> 00:56:53.389
And it's better for you not to see Gray sitting
984
00:56:53.409 --> 00:56:56.050
there going, hey, how you doing? It'd be better if
985
00:56:56.070 --> 00:56:57.750
you see me going, hey.
986
00:56:57.829 --> 00:56:58.349
How you doing?
987
00:56:58.369 --> 00:57:03.519
Time to go. And from me beforehand too i mean
988
00:57:03.539 --> 00:57:05.980
that's one of the reasons i'm talking is i want
989
00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:09.110
you to understand that this is we're all being trained
990
00:57:09.530 --> 00:57:14.409
to help in our excursion our in our saving ourselves
991
00:57:15.150 --> 00:57:18.550
that's an important fact that everybody needs to like connect
992
00:57:18.670 --> 00:57:21.329
to we're just going to come here and do everything
993
00:57:21.369 --> 00:57:23.489
for us not and not by a long shot no
994
00:57:23.530 --> 00:57:26.030
they're not they want us to use our abilities they
995
00:57:26.070 --> 00:57:27.989
want us to listen to what they have to say
996
00:57:28.760 --> 00:57:31.699
is to mentally prepare what's before us and pay attention
997
00:57:31.739 --> 00:57:35.869
to the truth because this situation is coming and it's real.
998
00:57:36.750 --> 00:57:41.110
This is serious stuff then. This is ultimately the purpose
999
00:57:41.230 --> 00:57:44.369
of why they agreed to teach you is because there
1000
00:57:44.409 --> 00:57:46.260
is a purpose behind all this. It's not just fun
1001
00:57:46.409 --> 00:57:47.179
and games.
1002
00:57:47.340 --> 00:57:51.420
It's not why me and nobody else. I'm one of
1003
00:57:51.559 --> 00:57:54.420
a lot of people here that have disability and are
1004
00:57:54.460 --> 00:57:54.900
working it.
1005
00:57:55.780 --> 00:57:58.449
Alright, so I want to begin to wrap this up
1006
00:57:58.469 --> 00:58:01.489
because we've been talking almost an hour now and I
1007
00:58:01.510 --> 00:58:03.880
want to give you the opportunity to sort of, you know,
1008
00:58:04.519 --> 00:58:07.760
give what the ET's message is to all of us
1009
00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:10.820
and how important, I think it's, you know, basically having
1010
00:58:10.860 --> 00:58:14.099
to do with the development of our psychic abilities to
1011
00:58:14.139 --> 00:58:17.139
help overcome what we're facing. But yeah, I mean, however
1012
00:58:17.179 --> 00:58:19.380
you want to wrap this up, I want to give
1013
00:58:19.400 --> 00:58:23.159
you that opportunity because this is a big part of
1014
00:58:23.199 --> 00:58:27.110
your experiences is flying craft, you know, scooping up people
1015
00:58:27.170 --> 00:58:30.969
to examine and heal them and guide them and counsel
1016
00:58:31.010 --> 00:58:35.559
them and so forth. But yeah, I mean, what is
1017
00:58:35.579 --> 00:58:38.179
the E.T. 's message to, because I believe you wanted
1018
00:58:38.199 --> 00:58:39.340
to sort of close with that.
1019
00:58:41.400 --> 00:58:45.860
Community has a huge opportunity to move out before it. Yes,
1020
00:58:45.980 --> 00:58:49.210
things are going to be difficult. Yes, they're going to
1021
00:58:49.250 --> 00:58:53.690
be explosive in front of us and cataclysmic in front
1022
00:58:53.710 --> 00:58:59.630
of us. But we're We're awesome people like them. We
1023
00:58:59.690 --> 00:59:02.440
have a lot of ability. We know it innately. We
1024
00:59:02.480 --> 00:59:06.750
know it. We're good. But you have to choose for
1025
00:59:06.769 --> 00:59:09.449
yourself where you're going to go with this. And it's
1026
00:59:09.489 --> 00:59:14.880
important to... to think about it critically. Do this. Decide
1027
00:59:14.920 --> 00:59:20.739
for yourself. Everybody. Each one of you. No, I'm just
1028
00:59:20.760 --> 00:59:24.150
going to stay as I am. Whatever happens. Or you
1029
00:59:24.170 --> 00:59:29.230
can embrace a chance to take this leap with them.
1030
00:59:29.989 --> 00:59:34.340
this journey with them learn with them and you have
1031
00:59:34.380 --> 00:59:37.440
to do a little bit of work yourself beforehand and
1032
00:59:37.480 --> 00:59:39.940
it's not hard to do you just have to decide
1033
00:59:39.980 --> 00:59:42.739
to do it and the first decision in that and
1034
00:59:42.780 --> 00:59:46.679
the very first decision you must do is learn to
1035
00:59:47.960 --> 00:59:51.440
separate yourself from what's going on in this world because
1036
00:59:51.500 --> 00:59:56.519
right now it's a jumble of misinformation outright lying a
1037
00:59:56.699 --> 01:00:03.800
fantasy that is not true real Happy, fearful, and knowing
1038
01:00:03.900 --> 01:00:06.840
that you have an opportunity before you to do great
1039
01:00:06.860 --> 01:00:11.210
things for yourself. And make yourself of whatever woes this
1040
01:00:11.269 --> 01:00:13.329
world has put upon you. Because you're going to go
1041
01:00:13.369 --> 01:00:16.849
on a journey if you so choose. And that's the message.
1042
01:00:17.090 --> 01:00:19.449
It's time. Make up your mind which way you want
1043
01:00:19.469 --> 01:00:23.139
to go. Really think it through. Take a day. Sit
1044
01:00:23.199 --> 01:00:25.599
down and let the others talk to you. Let ET
1045
01:00:25.639 --> 01:00:28.119
talk to you. Listen to what they're saying.
1046
01:00:30.739 --> 01:00:34.679
Yeah, well, that's really encouraging, actually. This is a message
1047
01:00:34.719 --> 01:00:39.059
I've heard that other contactees certainly have told me, this
1048
01:00:39.099 --> 01:00:43.699
sort of thing about the sky filling with craft, warnings
1049
01:00:43.800 --> 01:00:47.460
of hard times ahead, and all this stuff that you're
1050
01:00:47.480 --> 01:00:50.480
saying is certainly familiar to me, but it's really wonderful
1051
01:00:50.519 --> 01:00:54.199
to hear it in such detail, in such positive terms.
1052
01:00:55.099 --> 01:00:59.000
It's just really cool and really remarkable that we have
1053
01:00:59.039 --> 01:01:02.469
these people out there who are working so hard to
1054
01:01:02.550 --> 01:01:05.780
help us through this transition. And I think it's important
1055
01:01:05.800 --> 01:01:09.320
that people know. And like you say, try to sift
1056
01:01:09.360 --> 01:01:14.219
through all the lies, the disinformation, the false narratives our
1057
01:01:14.260 --> 01:01:18.199
governments are putting forth and look to the truth, look
1058
01:01:18.219 --> 01:01:21.800
to science, look to your own experience. And this is
1059
01:01:21.840 --> 01:01:24.039
something that's available to anyone, right? And anyone can reach
1060
01:01:24.099 --> 01:01:30.750
out to these guys. Very cool. Anything else you want
1061
01:01:30.769 --> 01:01:31.119
to add?
1062
01:01:32.389 --> 01:01:39.000
Just happy, joyful. These days in front of you to
1063
01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:46.880
work for yourselves and your families and regain consciousness, regain
1064
01:01:47.079 --> 01:01:51.239
the ability to reach and tap your own consciousness and
1065
01:01:51.300 --> 01:01:53.679
others as well. It's a beautiful thing to do and
1066
01:01:54.219 --> 01:01:54.719
it's fun.
1067
01:01:57.010 --> 01:01:57.469
Very cool.
1068
01:01:57.530 --> 01:01:59.250
I can't tell you how much fun this was for me.
1069
01:01:59.349 --> 01:02:03.329
All of it. I can only imagine. I mean, wow.
1070
01:02:03.389 --> 01:02:06.349
It's fun driving a car. So to say my other
1071
01:02:06.369 --> 01:02:09.130
car is a UFO, that's a bumper sticker I've seen,
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and have it be true is beyond me. It's just
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really amazing. So, yeah, thanks, Dolly. That was awesome. And
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I definitely learned some stuff. It was certainly really interesting.
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And we did cover part of this in the book, Symmetry,
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A True UFO Adventure. So if y'all want to read
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more about Dolly's experiences, definitely check out that book. But yeah, Dolly,
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huge thanks to you. Really appreciate you coming on to
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the show.
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Very much. I appreciate it.
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All right. That's the show for tonight, guys. Thanks very
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much for watching. I truly appreciate it. And as I
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always like to say... Keep searching for answers. Keep looking
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for the truth. And most importantly, keep having fun. Right, Dolly? Absolutely.
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All right.
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Bye, guys.