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Welcome to Tim Hypnotherapist Talking with Meade Deniseville and Mahia in Delaware, USA.
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And me, Les Roberts in St.
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Helens, United Kingdom.
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This weekly podcast is for anyone and everyone who would like to know more about the fascinating world of hypnosis and the benefits that it offers.
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I'm a clinical hypnotherapist and specialist in working with children.
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And I'm a retired medical doctor and consultant hypnotist.
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We are two hypnotherapists talking.
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So let's get on with the episode.
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So season 10, episode three already.
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We're storming through this, aren't we, Denise?
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We are indeed, my dear.
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Even taking vacations while we do it.
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I was away last week.
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It was wonderful.
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Oh, I'm I'm away next weekend.
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I'm going up to Hull to see Sheila, Sheila Granger.
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So um we were hoping we we went last weekend just for a long weekend.
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This weekend is our I saw a bank holiday Monday.
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So Ben and Emily have moved to outside Cleveland, and we expected to go see them.
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But I had a conversation with him at the end of his first day at work, and he said it's gonna take him a while before he's really organized.
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So that's fine.
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We will see him before the end of the month.
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Because by October the weather could be bad.
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They they get lost.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So what have you been up to?
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What have you been up to?
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Well, just that.
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Just relaxing around, you know, watching horses and and other light wildlife, a lot of deer around there.
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That was very nice.
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And you know, just trying to get my business moving along.
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I've been writing this month about medical and dental issues.
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Oh, right.
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I think people tend to forget, and actually a lot of dentists have been trained in hypnosis to some degree.
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Right.
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They're very open to it.
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So I'm gonna start reaching out to the dentists around here.
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Yeah, my dentist is quite open to it.
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I I've I've been for an emergency appointment this morning, so he's um yeah, he's been very, very uh open to it.
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And he he just says, Don't look into my eyes, you know, as a joke.
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And um, but yeah, he's asked me to put some stuff together, so I'm gonna put some stuff together for it's more for the children.
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So it's very helpful for you.
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We get children to not be afraid of the dentist.
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Yeah, you know, we've had a lot of dental problems later on.
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Well, yes, yeah.
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I mean, I'm not very keen.
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It's I don't I don't get excited thinking I'm going to the dentist, but it doesn't bother me because he's he's a very, very good dentist and very empathetic over, you know, needles and yeah, things like that.
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Ones that say, Do you need to take a beat?
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That's usually all it is.
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You just gotta screw your courage to the sticking post.
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Yeah, he's a he's I think I he's he's very good because he he treats adults like he does the children.
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So he actually he actually puts like the numbing stuff up on your gums before he gives you the the need.
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And why not?
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He's so good, he is, he is, yeah.
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But but yeah, you're right.
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I think I think dentists and we we've discussed it before, haven't we, about medical and doctors and everything?
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They should all have some kind of training in hypnosis.
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If not, actually do it themselves, at least and know enough about it to be able to use it.
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It is it's so frustrating that it's still all these hundreds and thousands of years it's been around.
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I know using different names.
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So what what do you do you plan on targeting like dentists in your area to um Yeah, I would probably reach out to them because like obviously I'm right next door for it.
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I don't know how many we've got, but I think I can throw my a stone at five different offices just in this around here.
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There's a lot.
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And we've certainly got lots of dentists, and I'm very close to the hospital, so I might put together a talk.
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Yeah, no, that'd be good, that wouldn't it?
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That'd be very, very good.
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Yeah, it's all about education, isn't it?
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And whilst I'm thinking, yeah, having this brainstorm while we're talking, I think actually I could probably reach out because they do adult education, if you will, you know, talk to the importance of the paps here, the importance of the you know, that's that's that.
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I'm just gonna put him a leaflet together, go in and have a chat with him and just see where that gets me.
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So we'll have to see, even if it's just to come come in and do a talk with the staff, or I'm quite open to quite a lot of lot of things with him, so that's good.
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Yeah, talking to the staff is nice also because you can also remind them they themselves are patients at multiple junctures.
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They are, yeah.
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Um, and it it can be really useful.
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I have seen quite a few children who have had their parents pin them down where they've where they've been having inoculations or vaccinations or or even having blood taken.
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And yeah, I just think that's absolutely when they're tiny and they're squirmy anyway, even if they're not frightened, they're like you just wrap your arms around them and you're bear hug, exactly.
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So long as that in itself they can get used to the the doctor's gonna give you a shot and mummy's gonna give you a hug.
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They should not be frightened when they get to Yeah, no, I've actually yeah, I've actually seen children who have been terrified, absolutely terrified, of hospitals, of doctors, of nurses, because of that experience that you know they've they've they've had as regards to needles.
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Body autonomy.
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I mean, they're not the nicest of things, are they?
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But no, I mean nobody would volunteer for them for fun, I hope.
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No, I mean, well, I suppose I give blood, so I suppose I do really, in a way, don't I?
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Yeah, but it's yeah, you've just got to, especially they're using a much bigger needle when they're taking blood for that.
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Denise, it doesn't bother me at all.
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I watch them.
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I actually watched them.
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Because you're you're it's in your gift, as it were.
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You are telling them you can have it.
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I get in the I get in the way, yeah.
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When I was when I was doing my physio training, I went into theatre where they were doing knee replacement, hip replacement, all kinds of things like that.
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And I got I actually got told off from the surgeon because there's a square, isn't there, in theatre that you don't jump over.
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Jump it over, and he was going, get back.
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So there was there was one particular, yeah, there was one particular one that I saw, and it was a hip replacement, and he just threw me the the head of the femur, and and I was just I didn't want to give it back.
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Just to remind you.
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It was no, it's great because funnily enough, Denise, it was at the hospital, a hospital called Writington Hospital, which is in the northwest of England, and that is where Charnley did the first hip replacement procedure there.
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So, what is what's your big push in this?
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This is you've had your Labor Day weekend, you it's it's it's the last quarter of the year.
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What are you gonna do with this last quarter of the year?
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Is Christmas a big push for you?
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No, not really.
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It's quite quiet at Christmas, but then again, it starts picking up in January.
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Yeah, I sit back at Christmas really, and that's nice, that's really nice.
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But my big push at the moment is I've just rebranded and it's not one size fits all, so it's I determine what I need to do with the child and then put my recommendations, and it didn't really highlight what I was doing as you know, as a therapist, so that's what I've been doing.
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So I've actually got four pillars to my my work that I do.
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So I've just been looking at trademarking, and it's an expensive uh occasion when you have to trademark something, isn't it?
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Is that the little helpers thing?
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No, no, that's what I mean.
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We've come away from, we've come away from that altogether.
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So it's uh it's the four pillars to you know to what I do with the children, and I've just had a look, I just googled it before to see how much it was, and it's it it's not that expensive, really, in in the light of things for what you get, but it's uh between two and three hundred pounds, and it's it takes between three and four months to do.
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Yeah, they go find out how many other people are the same.
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Yeah, so well I've had a look, yeah.
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I've had a look, and nobody's nobody's got that name, so I need to do it as as as soon as I can do it.
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Yeah, quick so you keep it that way.
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Yeah, so that's what I've been doing, and then getting ready for the last quarter of the year, really, preparing for the children going back to school.
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I've already had a few inquiries this week already, and our children only went back this week.
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So I've got uh three new ones coming in to see me.
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Um, and this is only the first week, so fingers crossed, you know, it'll start getting busier and busier.
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Is the end of the actual year a big exam time for kids?
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It is depending on what year.
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So in junior school, you have what's called SATS, and that's year six who sits at, and then when it goes to senior school, it's usually year 11 where they start sitting their GCCs or their O levels, or year 10, they sit there what's called mocks.
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Do you have 13 years?
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You have 12 years in school.
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Eleven is to get through to O levels.
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So you've got year one, two, three, four, five, six in primary school, as well as reception.
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So you've got reception, they're the four-year-olds, and then you've got years years at primary school, and then you have seven, eight, nine, ten, then you have five years at senior school, and then if you want, you can stay on or you can go to college.
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Oh, so they're still allowed to leave after our levels.
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No, year 11, the 16.
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So the 16 when they leave, and they then they can decide whether to go to college or whether to some schools have a six form or extra two years where where children stay.
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Because my grandson has just started uh college.
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His school didn't provide an after year 11 education.
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And they get responsible.
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They get different choices in different places.
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You've got to have the teacher that can teach at that level.
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You do, you do, yeah.
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Yeah.
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So it's uh, but he's he's only done, I think, three days up to now.
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He's done a college, and he said it's so much different to school.
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I think it's more easy to do.
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I know.
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I prefer school to college though.
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So did you?
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I did, I loved school, I absolutely loved school.
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How long did you go through O levels and then you got out?
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Yeah, through O-levels and then I went to college after.
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So I did I did college and then I went into work then after I'd done college.
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Did you train what was your first it was your initial therapy training?
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My occupational therapy or physio thing?
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No, it was I actually worked in a an integrated therapy team for for children and it was OTs and physios, so occupational therapists and physiotherapists.
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Did you train for that in college or did you train on the job?
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No, I trained on the job, but I also went to university.
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Part-time I was seconded by the NHS and I did to do physiotherapy.
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So I didn't finish it, but I started to do physiotherapy.
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It wasn't what you wanted.
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You were you wanted to be able to do that.
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The circumstances, to be honest, Denise, the circumstances were that when my parents lived about 500 miles from me, and when my mum became ill, university and work of course, university were very, very supportive when she was poorly and when she was end of life.
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However, afterwards, when sadly she passed away, it was a case of as far as university was concerned, well, she's not here now, so you need to get on with it.
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And that's when I needed the support.
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So my manager at work said to me, What do you want to do?
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Do you want to?
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She wasn't very happy with the fact that they weren't very supportive of me.
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And she said, What do you want to do?
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And I said, I don't want to go anymore.
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So I did two and a half years of four-year course of physio.
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I don't regret it at all now because of what I do now.
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Hindsight's a wonderful thing, isn't it?
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And it's only when you look back, did I make the right decision?
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Yes, I did, because I don't think I would be here.
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The problem is when you're younger and you're looking at two years, it's a huge amount of time when you're 18 or 19.
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And then when you're this age, you look like it helps me still to continue with my job because I can, especially with the the the the upper limb, I can see how a child holds things and um you know writing and and how they're sitting.
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So it's it stayed with me.
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It's just that I don't use it in that capacity, really.
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It's interesting.
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It is fascinating because people are fascinating anyway, but hypnotists are a particularly interesting craft.
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We've all come from such completely different, you know.
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If you if you're going to be a nurse, you sort of see the pattern coming, but hypnotists now.
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And and I've yet to meet anybody that was not born to a hypnotist who has entered the profession as their first job.
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Oh, really?
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Really?
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Yeah, I haven't met.
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I've met the school that I went to, Hypnosis Motivation Institute.
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Yeah.
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It was founded by a hypnotist.
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His son is now the the president, and he went straight into it.
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But he went to college first.
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Regular college.
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It'll be interesting to see in 20 years.
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I'm not sure I'll be here, but it will be interesting to see where where we're going.
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Dave Ellman's son, Larry, joined him, didn't he?
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He he came and joined.
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And my my son, my son's a hypnotherapist as well.
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So um, yeah.
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But again, notice is not as his first choice.
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He didn't start that right after.
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No, it wasn't, no, yeah.
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I see what you mean about first choice, yeah.
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I don't know anybody, uh just not necessarily a bad thing.
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It's nice to be able to understand a broader group.
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Yeah, you know, I think I think it's very interesting.
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I mean, my son, he's not doing much at the moment because he's chosen another pathway at the moment, but I know that in you know, he'll keep it up, he'll keep his, you know, his experience and his skills up, and when he's ready, he will join either me or you know, build a scientist.
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Yeah, but at this moment in time he's he's doing something else, so he's doing okay.
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But it I think it's I think it's something nice, isn't it, to fall into.
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Um that's it.
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But I think most people do fall into it.
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We do, we do, don't we?
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We do.
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I just I I don't know.
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I I when you look when I go to these conventions and I start chatting to other hypnotherapists and you find out their background, they are so so so different.
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Teachers, soldiers, yeah, business people.
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There are people that worked for the government.
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There is people you know who who had their own business doing something else completely different.
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That's right.
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Martin, Martin was a jeweller, if you just Martin was a jeweller, yeah.
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It's and you were a doctor, so it's uh it's it is fascinating.
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I'd love to know what other, you know, like very, very well known hypnotherapists did before.
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Well, Melanie, who was on last season, right?
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She was a business coach, she wasn't thinking she was a business coach, but it was more in that sort of field.
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But so she sort of morphed over to hypnosis.
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Yeah, but some of the guests that we've got on, for instance, Sheila Granger.
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We Sheila Granger is very, very well known within the hypnosis.
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And she's the reason you and I met.
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The reason you and I ever met.
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It is, yeah.
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It is she is, yeah.
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Sheila used to work for the Department of Work and Pensions, she was an investigator.
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And Frankie, Francis, who's coming on as well.
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Francis worked in health and safety.
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That's poles apart as well, isn't it?
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Almost, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Melanie Hamilton Davis, not Melanie Minework from MineWorks.
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Melanie was actually a teacher.
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She was a teacher.
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I've met several teachers who've become hypnotists.
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Or I should say, I have met many hypnotists who used to be teachers, not usually carried in tandem.
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So yeah, we're we're all from different backgrounds.
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But I think the blend works very, very well.
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I really do.
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Mm-hmm.
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Well, the thing is that people can benefit from hypnosis come from every walk of life because it's basically if you're human, this will probably help you.
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Not not 100%, but very close.
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It is fascinating to see where people come from and what made them become a hypnotherapist.
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We've got going to the UK HC, the UK Um hypnosis convention in November, and Paul McKenna's going to be there.
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Where is it being held this year?
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Yeah, it's Heathrow.
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It's uh uh the Renaissance Hotel in in just outside Heathrow Airport.
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You can actually see the planes landing from the bedrooms, really.
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It's very, very close.
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And I don't know whether you you know of Paul McKenna over in the state.
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I be I do because I've hung out with us for a long time.
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He isn't a one of the if people have heard of hypnosis, they're likely to have heard of his name.
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Yes, yeah.
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So um Paul McKenna's actually he's actually doing a talk on the Sunday.
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So I might I might ask Adam, who runs the UK HC, whether we can ask him some questions, and I might ask him what he did before because I think that'd be interesting.
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Uh but I I think if I'm right, I think he was a DJ, a radio DJ.
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I might be wrong because I know he does radio now, but I think he did radio DJing before he did hypnosis.
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Well, you almost want to ask him how did you get into that?
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I mean, that's uh it's not usually something on the school curriculum for what you do when you grow up.
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Well, yeah, I think you you just there's certain professions, isn't there, that you just fall into.
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You know, you know somebody or you happen to be in the right place at the right time.
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Yeah, like my my husband, we we live in a an indust what used to be an industrial town.
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If you didn't work down the mines, then you worked in the glass industry.
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And my husband finished school, started to do his uh his training with another company, and then his uncle, who worked for the glass industry, actually, he did he was he did his apprenticeship somewhere else, and then his uncle said, Well, there's a job here if you want it, because that's how you got jobs, and he did, and he did uh 36 years working for Pilkintons.
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Oh, you've got heard of that, yeah.
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Well, I think the world has heard of Pilkintons, haven't they?
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Because they they're famous for for the glass, and um and but Eric worked at a place called Triplex, which is three X's, and they did car windows and car, you know, the side windows, the windshields, and and things.
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So you got to decide how to make glass shatter only in certain directions.
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And what's that point?
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Oh, and Concord is just said the windows.
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Excuse me.
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No, we can't forget that then, can we?
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Just told me.
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Yeah, the nose cone.
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So yeah, oh, he's got to get that in, he hasn't.
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Yeah, okay, and then he when the glass factory closed down, when triplets closed down, he went to work for the police and he he did 13 years at the police as well.
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So that's an interesting move.
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Was he was he working obviously for the police?
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Or was he?
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No, no, he wasn't, he wasn't a police support staff.
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He was a Civi, uh he was more of background staff and he worked at the academy.
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There's so there's a really big academy in used to be in Allerton in Liverpool, called Mather Avenue, and uh and Eric worked there.
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So we all come from such interesting places.
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Yeah, it is.
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It's um it is fascinating though, isn't it?
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We know where we all come from.
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We were talking before before we hit the switch on here.
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Changed the way I market at the moment.
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I'm sort of like this particular thing for hypnosis, all my writing is about that, all my radio shows is about that.
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It's a bit different because you and I obviously come from slightly different areas.
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This month, it's medical and dental uses of hypnosis.
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Dentists in this country at least are often told when they're in dental school.
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Not 100%, it's not a requirement, but it's not uncommon to find a dentist who's familiar with it and comfortable with it.
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So I'm gonna start reaching out a little bit more.
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What would they use it for then?
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Terror, mostly, I think.
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Most yeah, having fear of dentists is pretty universal.
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It is, yeah, yeah.
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Which is unfortunate because it's also extremely important if you wanted a healthy heart, keep your teeth good.
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So would it would it be for like calming techniques and yeah, calming techniques?
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Well, yeah, how to ignore the fact that somebody's got a drill in your mouth.
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But there's there's additional perks to it.
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It you you can reduce the amount of blood loss from most of these things through hypnosis.
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Which you think people would find useful.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean you're not likely to exanguinate from having a toothball, but it is there's no reason to throw it away either.
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So I think it's a good idea to to I'm gonna try and reach out this month to more dentists.
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I'm always reaching out to doctors, so hopefully I'll see a little movement in that.
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And just you know, as I as I've told you many times, the real reason I have this business is the educational part of it.
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I want more people to know that hypnosis works.
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Yeah.
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Because I'm at the wrong end of my life to be building a giant practice.
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Yeah.
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And for those of you who are on YouTube, as you can see, bears come to join us.
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Yeah, it's his second appearance now, isn't it?
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Yeah, he's uh and that that's my husband's just gone out, you see, so that's what it is.
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He's um oh he wants company.
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Yeah, making sure you're there.
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He's saying, you know, like where's my where's my buddy gone?
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Where's he gone?
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You know, so he'll he'll just he'll there's a little sofa down here next to me, so he'll uh he'll sit on there and and wait for him to come back.
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Yeah, and next he'll he'll be at the window later.
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Just your so how is your new location?
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Have you finished?
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We've got we've got the electrics coming in very, very soon now that the weather's calmed down and then we've just got to insulate it.
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But I just put a post out on Facebook and Instagram.
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I'll have to show it, I'll have to guess at you and show it you.
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So 10 years ago, Denise, I bought I bought this plant 10 years ago.
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Okay, it's beautiful, and as you can see, it's got all of the little red things, and I've got lots of them coming up up here.
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I've had it for 10 years, this plant, and it has never ever had a red flower.
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Never.
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Well, you've been very patient all nine years waiting for it to get around to it.
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Yeah, so I think I think I've just put a quite a humorous post out, a social media post, saying, Do you think my my plant likes coming home with me?
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Because it's thriving, absolutely thriving.
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Well, you get quite a lot of sun in the where you where you're yeah, we do, yeah.
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It we get it in the morning here, that it comes on this side on the morning and then it goes round, and then we've just got it over there before going down.
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You said now the weather's stopped being weather.
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Is your were you having mostly rain?
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We were having thunderstorms for the last week.
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We've had a lot of rain this for these past few days, but Sunday, this Sunday, it's gonna be very warm.
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I think it's gonna be well, I don't know what it is in Fahrenheit, but it's 25 degrees here.
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Yeah, that's warm.
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Yeah, it is it is for September, really, isn't it?
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So I'm looking forward to that because we can get out in the garden and get some.
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I think my husband's gonna pray for rain so he doesn't have to go out.
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I know you there.
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I like I like being at home.
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I didn't yeah, I thought I wouldn't.
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I thought it's such a quick commute.
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Yeah, I thought I wouldn't like it because well, not like not not like it.
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I I thought I'd I'd have a little miss the office.
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Yeah, I don't I don't miss it at all, and it's great because I've done I've had a few meetings this morning, I've had one cancellation this afternoon because uh the young girl's not well, and I've just got on where I've just been sat in here and I've just got on with like lots of admin, uh, you know, more changes to my website, and I've also I put the washing on.
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I've folded, I've tried it, I've folded it up.
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So it usually I'd be doing that when I got home.
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It is nice, and I wish I'd have done it sooner now.
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Well, most most things in life that will be one of the things we say.
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I didn't think of this before.
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Yeah, I know it has, it's been it's been it's been very nice, and I'm I'm looking forward to the winter, really, because it my little commute is literally, you know, I'm gonna have to count my steps, aren't I, and see how you have to go backwards and forwards several times to be worth it, but yeah.
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But I think I'm using my steps anyway, with all the the walking around and all the bits and pieces that I'm doing.
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How much travel time will you save if you were to really be using that for your for your clients?
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How much travel time do I expect?
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Well, it's only it's only a mile up the road, my office.
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So it was like a 10-minute drive anyway, to get from that into the other office.
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Okay, yeah.
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It is, but for my clients, it's so much better because they don't have to pay for parking in in the town centre, and also they can literally park on my driveway and just walk through.
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They don't have to pay for parking, they don't have to worry, you know, like I'm paid enough for my parking, you know, look at the clock.
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So, yeah, it's great.
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We just have to think, well, does my husband need to take the car out if somebody's coming?
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So every morning we we sit there and I go, Yes, I've got one walker, I've got two people in come coming in cars.
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So if he needs to get out, he'll move the car because it's it's right on the driveway.
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So, but yeah, it's I do like it.
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I do like it.
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I'm not as I don't feel I'm very much like that plant now.
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I don't feel as stressed.
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Yeah, we're all looking at those for the every as you get towards the end of the year, you have to have a long conversation with you.
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Am I gonna give this up?
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I don't really want to give this up, but you know, it's 200 here, 150 there.
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It's just it just adds up.
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It does.
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I mean, I was I'll I'll be perfectly honest with you.
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I was paying probably about 12,000 pounds a year to stay there.
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It's a lot of money, isn't it?
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So that's like I have to earn a thousand pounds every month before anything.
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Just to yeah, just to yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I mean, you've got all the certifications and you know groups that you belong to, and yeah, yeah.
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And but I don't miss it at all.
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I don't so I'm just I'm just thinking who are our guests.
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So we've got we've already said who our guests are, but who we've who we've got next week.
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Shall I have a sneaky look and see who's who we've got next week so we can we can talk about it.
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Next week or last week?
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Well, because this is every other.
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Yes.
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Last week we had Melanie Hamilton Davis last week.
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Okay.
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So everybody's already met her, and then next week is Sheila.
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Sheila got it.
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Excellent.
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So we'll um we'll be asking Sheila what what what made her become a hypnotherapist when she was uh investigation officer for the Department of Work Intentions.
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So, what are you doing to publicize your new location?
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I've I've just changed everything on Google, I've changed it on my website, I've changed it on Facebook, I've done a lot of things inside my cabin, inside because it's called Little Haven, inside Little Haven to promote it.
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And I'm actually gonna, I might, I'm looking at it, I'm looking at doing some Google ads and just see what happens.
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Because I was I was actually when somebody suggested that I did some adverts, some paid adverts, I automatically thought they meant social media like Facebook, but talking to them today, they said, Oh no, not Facebook.
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Old school newspapers, sorry, magazines, news newspapers, and magazines.
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Yeah, it's they they just suggested uh Google, so I'm gonna give it a go and see.
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I'm at the top of Google anyway, so if anybody puts me in Google, I will come, I'll you know, like I've taken a major tumble, and I think it's AI's fault.
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But I I while I was waiting for my doctor's appointment this morning, I just wrote Hypnotist near me, hypnotherapist near me, and I was like number five.
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And a couple of them were way outside of Wilmington.
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But if you if you have a look at it, if it said sponsors sponsored, then they've paid for those ads, haven't they?
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The above the curve.
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No, I I'm yeah, I think really I'm gonna have to get a little old school and go get more magazine articles and that kind of thing.
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Yeah, I've written to a few newspapers this week because there was a the BBC or wonderful British Broadcasting Corporation put out something about there were six-year-olds going to AE with mental health crisis points, you know, like breaking points, really.
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And I just think six year olds.
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Six-year-olds, yeah.
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And I jumped on it and said Can you give an example of what kinds of things they were?
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I mean, were these six-year-olds standing in windows saying they were to take a walk?
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Or no, I just I just think they're going because the pet well, you see what what's happened here, Denise, is since lockdown, since COVID, our doctors, our our local GPs, and well, right across, you know, right across the the country, you can't get an appointment at the doctors.
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So I remember years and years ago being how being able to ring the doctor and say, Can I have you got any appointments for Tuesday?
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Or have you got any appointments for Friday so that you could book time off work or book time?
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You used to be able to, oh yeah, two o'clock's regular clerk, like and you just got in line.
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Yeah, and you were seeing it.
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Yeah, we've done more or less in the order you were saying, yeah.
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Yeah.
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I remember going to the doctor's with my mum and getting a number, and you sat there with the number and you all moved around, you know.
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But now, since lockdown was lifted, you writ that you cannot book an appointment with a GP.
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You can book with the nurse, but you cannot book an appointment with the GP.
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What you have to do is you have to ring up at 8 a.m.
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to try and get an appointment.
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So if you're that seems so silly.
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Why can't they say you can be next Tuesday if you're not going to drop one of it?
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They won't do it.
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Yeah, they won't do it.
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So I think what's happening with these children is these children are struggling with it, could be anxiety-related issues, it could be they're taking the they're taking them to AE.
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We've we've been told a few times to take, I know you you know that my daughter's just had surgery to remove a gallbladder, but at the beginning, when she was just having stomach pains after she'd eaten, we didn't know what it was, and the only place we could go to was either the walking centre or to AE.
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And that's why it's it's such a mess at the moment because we we've got a thriving clinic centre in the town centre where my doctors, and this I think there's three or four floors where you've got GPs or different surgeries, and in the middle, like in the atrium, so sort of so to speak, used to be the waiting room for the phlebotomists and also for physio and OT and podiatry.
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That is empty.
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So you used to walk in and it would be full at eight o'clock in the morning, it would be full of people going for blood tests, but now it's empty.
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So goodness what they're doing.
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Where are the where are those people going?
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Because it's not like feet got cured by COVID.
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Don't know.
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Don't know, haven't a clue.
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It's it's it's really, really scary.
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It's very, it's very worrying.
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Now I had an operation, I had surgery last September on my foot, and I went for my checkup.
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That was last September, and I went for my checkup only a few weeks ago.
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No, quite a few months ago, sorry, and they're referring me to podiatry because of the way that I walk with my foot, because subconsciously I'm avoiding.
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Yeah, I'm still waiting.
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Well, podiatry is not too difficult to get an appointment here.
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There are there are quite a few podiatrists.
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Yeah, no.
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I I could get one if I pay private, which I think I'm going to end up doing.
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But my daughter, who who's just had her gallbladder out, she was admitted into hospital about six or seven times before they actually said, right, this is what you need.
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And it was only a wonderful surgeon who works privately as well as for the NHS that says, I'm getting you in as an emergency, and now she's in recovery.
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It's it's shocking.
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But hypnosis can help with a lot of these issues.
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It can, it can.
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It can.
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But this is if you think about the knock-on effect that the RNHS and the services have on people, people are more re are looking more at private therapists to come and help them rather than wait, go on the waiting list.
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One of the children that I've got coming next week to see me has been already been to CAMS, which is the Child and Adolescent Mental Health Service, and they've been told that uh, sorry, has already been referred, and they've been told that there's uh a 26 to 28 week waiting list before that they will be seen.
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So mum and dad are bringing him to see me.
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Yeah, it's shocking.
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It's just the way I don't know what's happened to our GPs and why the surgeries are empty.
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Because there's no when you do go to the surgery as well, there's nobody ever in the waiting room either.
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Very strange.
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Why don't we ask our audience if they would please send us any of their own particular stories, theirs or stories they've heard, because it would be helpful.
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And as always, our information is in the show notes.
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All right.
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So I guess you are going to a client now.
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No, I have finished now for the weekend.
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I've I've just really been blasting all my admin and everything today.
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So I haven't finished for the weekend.
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I told her fib.
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So I'll be doing a little bit of work tomorrow, and then my daughter is coming along because she adds things to my website.
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Oh, she's what she's back at work.
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Well, she's back at work for me.
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She's having a free dinner, so she's uh can't drive yet.
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So she's still got all her staples in, but she can't drive yet.
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So we'll pick her up, we'll bring her here.
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She can have dinner and then we'll drop her back off again.
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So she's uh Okay, my dear.
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Thank you very much.
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No problem.
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I shall see you next week.
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Yes, and things we'll be with Sheila.
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Yes.
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Take care.
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Bye.
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We hope you've enjoyed listening.
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Please remember this podcast is designed to give you an insight into therapeutic hypnosis and is for educational purposes only.
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So remember, consult with your own healthcare professional if you think something you've heard may apply to you or a loved one.
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Welcome to Tim Hypnotherapist Talking with Meade Deniseville and Mahia in Delaware, USA.
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And me, Les Roberts in St.
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Helens, United Kingdom.
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This weekly podcast is for anyone and everyone who would like to know more about the fascinating world of hypnosis and the benefits that it offers.
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I'm a clinical hypnotherapist and specialist in working with children.
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And I'm a retired medical doctor and consultant hypnotist.
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We are two hypnotherapists talking.
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So let's get on with the episode.
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So season 10, episode three already.
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We're storming through this, aren't we, Denise?
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We are indeed, my dear.
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Even taking vacations while we do it.
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I was away last week.
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It was wonderful.
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Oh, I'm I'm away next weekend.
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I'm going up to Hull to see Sheila, Sheila Granger.
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So um we were hoping we we went last weekend just for a long weekend.
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This weekend is our I saw a bank holiday Monday.
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So Ben and Emily have moved to outside Cleveland, and we expected to go see them.
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But I had a conversation with him at the end of his first day at work, and he said it's gonna take him a while before he's really organized.
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So that's fine.
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We will see him before the end of the month.
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Because by October the weather could be bad.
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They they get lost.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So what have you been up to?
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What have you been up to?
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Well, just that.
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Just relaxing around, you know, watching horses and and other light wildlife, a lot of deer around there.
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That was very nice.
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And you know, just trying to get my business moving along.
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I've been writing this month about medical and dental issues.
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Oh, right.
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I think people tend to forget, and actually a lot of dentists have been trained in hypnosis to some degree.
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Right.
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They're very open to it.
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So I'm gonna start reaching out to the dentists around here.
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Yeah, my dentist is quite open to it.
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I I've I've been for an emergency appointment this morning, so he's um yeah, he's been very, very uh open to it.
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And he he just says, Don't look into my eyes, you know, as a joke.
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And um, but yeah, he's asked me to put some stuff together, so I'm gonna put some stuff together for it's more for the children.
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So it's very helpful for you.
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We get children to not be afraid of the dentist.
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Yeah, you know, we've had a lot of dental problems later on.
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Well, yes, yeah.
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I mean, I'm not very keen.
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It's I don't I don't get excited thinking I'm going to the dentist, but it doesn't bother me because he's he's a very, very good dentist and very empathetic over, you know, needles and yeah, things like that.
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Ones that say, Do you need to take a beat?
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That's usually all it is.
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You just gotta screw your courage to the sticking post.
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Yeah, he's a he's I think I he's he's very good because he he treats adults like he does the children.
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So he actually he actually puts like the numbing stuff up on your gums before he gives you the the need.
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And why not?
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He's so good, he is, he is, yeah.
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But but yeah, you're right.
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I think I think dentists and we we've discussed it before, haven't we, about medical and doctors and everything?
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They should all have some kind of training in hypnosis.
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If not, actually do it themselves, at least and know enough about it to be able to use it.
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It is it's so frustrating that it's still all these hundreds and thousands of years it's been around.
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I know using different names.
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So what what do you do you plan on targeting like dentists in your area to um Yeah, I would probably reach out to them because like obviously I'm right next door for it.
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I don't know how many we've got, but I think I can throw my a stone at five different offices just in this around here.
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There's a lot.
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And we've certainly got lots of dentists, and I'm very close to the hospital, so I might put together a talk.
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Yeah, no, that'd be good, that wouldn't it?
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That'd be very, very good.
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Yeah, it's all about education, isn't it?
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And whilst I'm thinking, yeah, having this brainstorm while we're talking, I think actually I could probably reach out because they do adult education, if you will, you know, talk to the importance of the paps here, the importance of the you know, that's that's that.
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I'm just gonna put him a leaflet together, go in and have a chat with him and just see where that gets me.
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So we'll have to see, even if it's just to come come in and do a talk with the staff, or I'm quite open to quite a lot of lot of things with him, so that's good.
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Yeah, talking to the staff is nice also because you can also remind them they themselves are patients at multiple junctures.
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They are, yeah.
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Um, and it it can be really useful.
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I have seen quite a few children who have had their parents pin them down where they've where they've been having inoculations or vaccinations or or even having blood taken.
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And yeah, I just think that's absolutely when they're tiny and they're squirmy anyway, even if they're not frightened, they're like you just wrap your arms around them and you're bear hug, exactly.
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So long as that in itself they can get used to the the doctor's gonna give you a shot and mummy's gonna give you a hug.
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They should not be frightened when they get to Yeah, no, I've actually yeah, I've actually seen children who have been terrified, absolutely terrified, of hospitals, of doctors, of nurses, because of that experience that you know they've they've they've had as regards to needles.
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Body autonomy.
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I mean, they're not the nicest of things, are they?
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But no, I mean nobody would volunteer for them for fun, I hope.
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No, I mean, well, I suppose I give blood, so I suppose I do really, in a way, don't I?
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Yeah, but it's yeah, you've just got to, especially they're using a much bigger needle when they're taking blood for that.
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Denise, it doesn't bother me at all.
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I watch them.
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I actually watched them.
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Because you're you're it's in your gift, as it were.
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You are telling them you can have it.
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I get in the I get in the way, yeah.
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When I was when I was doing my physio training, I went into theatre where they were doing knee replacement, hip replacement, all kinds of things like that.
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And I got I actually got told off from the surgeon because there's a square, isn't there, in theatre that you don't jump over.
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Jump it over, and he was going, get back.
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So there was there was one particular, yeah, there was one particular one that I saw, and it was a hip replacement, and he just threw me the the head of the femur, and and I was just I didn't want to give it back.
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Just to remind you.
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It was no, it's great because funnily enough, Denise, it was at the hospital, a hospital called Writington Hospital, which is in the northwest of England, and that is where Charnley did the first hip replacement procedure there.
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So, what is what's your big push in this?
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This is you've had your Labor Day weekend, you it's it's it's the last quarter of the year.
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What are you gonna do with this last quarter of the year?
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Is Christmas a big push for you?
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No, not really.
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It's quite quiet at Christmas, but then again, it starts picking up in January.
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Yeah, I sit back at Christmas really, and that's nice, that's really nice.
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But my big push at the moment is I've just rebranded and it's not one size fits all, so it's I determine what I need to do with the child and then put my recommendations, and it didn't really highlight what I was doing as you know, as a therapist, so that's what I've been doing.
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So I've actually got four pillars to my my work that I do.
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So I've just been looking at trademarking, and it's an expensive uh occasion when you have to trademark something, isn't it?
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Is that the little helpers thing?
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No, no, that's what I mean.
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We've come away from, we've come away from that altogether.
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So it's uh it's the four pillars to you know to what I do with the children, and I've just had a look, I just googled it before to see how much it was, and it's it it's not that expensive, really, in in the light of things for what you get, but it's uh between two and three hundred pounds, and it's it takes between three and four months to do.
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Yeah, they go find out how many other people are the same.
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Yeah, so well I've had a look, yeah.
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I've had a look, and nobody's nobody's got that name, so I need to do it as as as soon as I can do it.
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Yeah, quick so you keep it that way.
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Yeah, so that's what I've been doing, and then getting ready for the last quarter of the year, really, preparing for the children going back to school.
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I've already had a few inquiries this week already, and our children only went back this week.
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So I've got uh three new ones coming in to see me.
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Um, and this is only the first week, so fingers crossed, you know, it'll start getting busier and busier.
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Is the end of the actual year a big exam time for kids?
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It is depending on what year.
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So in junior school, you have what's called SATS, and that's year six who sits at, and then when it goes to senior school, it's usually year 11 where they start sitting their GCCs or their O levels, or year 10, they sit there what's called mocks.
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Do you have 13 years?
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You have 12 years in school.
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Eleven is to get through to O levels.
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So you've got year one, two, three, four, five, six in primary school, as well as reception.
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So you've got reception, they're the four-year-olds, and then you've got years years at primary school, and then you have seven, eight, nine, ten, then you have five years at senior school, and then if you want, you can stay on or you can go to college.
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Oh, so they're still allowed to leave after our levels.
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No, year 11, the 16.
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So the 16 when they leave, and they then they can decide whether to go to college or whether to some schools have a six form or extra two years where where children stay.
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Because my grandson has just started uh college.
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His school didn't provide an after year 11 education.
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And they get responsible.
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They get different choices in different places.
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You've got to have the teacher that can teach at that level.
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You do, you do, yeah.
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Yeah.
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So it's uh, but he's he's only done, I think, three days up to now.
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He's done a college, and he said it's so much different to school.
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I think it's more easy to do.
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I know.
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I prefer school to college though.
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So did you?
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I did, I loved school, I absolutely loved school.
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How long did you go through O levels and then you got out?
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Yeah, through O-levels and then I went to college after.
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So I did I did college and then I went into work then after I'd done college.
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Did you train what was your first it was your initial therapy training?
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My occupational therapy or physio thing?
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No, it was I actually worked in a an integrated therapy team for for children and it was OTs and physios, so occupational therapists and physiotherapists.
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Did you train for that in college or did you train on the job?
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No, I trained on the job, but I also went to university.
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Part-time I was seconded by the NHS and I did to do physiotherapy.
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So I didn't finish it, but I started to do physiotherapy.
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It wasn't what you wanted.
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You were you wanted to be able to do that.
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The circumstances, to be honest, Denise, the circumstances were that when my parents lived about 500 miles from me, and when my mum became ill, university and work of course, university were very, very supportive when she was poorly and when she was end of life.
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However, afterwards, when sadly she passed away, it was a case of as far as university was concerned, well, she's not here now, so you need to get on with it.
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And that's when I needed the support.
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So my manager at work said to me, What do you want to do?
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Do you want to?
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She wasn't very happy with the fact that they weren't very supportive of me.
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And she said, What do you want to do?
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And I said, I don't want to go anymore.
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So I did two and a half years of four-year course of physio.
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I don't regret it at all now because of what I do now.
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Hindsight's a wonderful thing, isn't it?
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And it's only when you look back, did I make the right decision?
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Yes, I did, because I don't think I would be here.
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The problem is when you're younger and you're looking at two years, it's a huge amount of time when you're 18 or 19.
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And then when you're this age, you look like it helps me still to continue with my job because I can, especially with the the the the upper limb, I can see how a child holds things and um you know writing and and how they're sitting.
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So it's it stayed with me.
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It's just that I don't use it in that capacity, really.
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It's interesting.
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It is fascinating because people are fascinating anyway, but hypnotists are a particularly interesting craft.
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We've all come from such completely different, you know.
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If you if you're going to be a nurse, you sort of see the pattern coming, but hypnotists now.
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And and I've yet to meet anybody that was not born to a hypnotist who has entered the profession as their first job.
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Oh, really?
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Really?
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Yeah, I haven't met.
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I've met the school that I went to, Hypnosis Motivation Institute.
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Yeah.
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It was founded by a hypnotist.
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His son is now the the president, and he went straight into it.
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But he went to college first.
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Regular college.
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It'll be interesting to see in 20 years.
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I'm not sure I'll be here, but it will be interesting to see where where we're going.
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Dave Ellman's son, Larry, joined him, didn't he?
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He he came and joined.
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And my my son, my son's a hypnotherapist as well.
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So um, yeah.
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But again, notice is not as his first choice.
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He didn't start that right after.
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No, it wasn't, no, yeah.
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I see what you mean about first choice, yeah.
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I don't know anybody, uh just not necessarily a bad thing.
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It's nice to be able to understand a broader group.
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Yeah, you know, I think I think it's very interesting.
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I mean, my son, he's not doing much at the moment because he's chosen another pathway at the moment, but I know that in you know, he'll keep it up, he'll keep his, you know, his experience and his skills up, and when he's ready, he will join either me or you know, build a scientist.
00:14:58.240 --> 00:15:03.279
Yeah, but at this moment in time he's he's doing something else, so he's doing okay.
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But it I think it's I think it's something nice, isn't it, to fall into.
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Um that's it.
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But I think most people do fall into it.
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We do, we do, don't we?
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We do.
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I just I I don't know.
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I I when you look when I go to these conventions and I start chatting to other hypnotherapists and you find out their background, they are so so so different.
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Teachers, soldiers, yeah, business people.
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There are people that worked for the government.
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There is people you know who who had their own business doing something else completely different.
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That's right.
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Martin, Martin was a jeweller, if you just Martin was a jeweller, yeah.
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It's and you were a doctor, so it's uh it's it is fascinating.
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I'd love to know what other, you know, like very, very well known hypnotherapists did before.
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Well, Melanie, who was on last season, right?
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She was a business coach, she wasn't thinking she was a business coach, but it was more in that sort of field.
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But so she sort of morphed over to hypnosis.
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Yeah, but some of the guests that we've got on, for instance, Sheila Granger.
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We Sheila Granger is very, very well known within the hypnosis.
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And she's the reason you and I met.
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The reason you and I ever met.
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It is, yeah.
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It is she is, yeah.
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Sheila used to work for the Department of Work and Pensions, she was an investigator.
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And Frankie, Francis, who's coming on as well.
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Francis worked in health and safety.
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That's poles apart as well, isn't it?
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Almost, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Melanie Hamilton Davis, not Melanie Minework from MineWorks.
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Melanie was actually a teacher.
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She was a teacher.
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I've met several teachers who've become hypnotists.
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Or I should say, I have met many hypnotists who used to be teachers, not usually carried in tandem.
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So yeah, we're we're all from different backgrounds.
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But I think the blend works very, very well.
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I really do.
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Mm-hmm.
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Well, the thing is that people can benefit from hypnosis come from every walk of life because it's basically if you're human, this will probably help you.
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Not not 100%, but very close.
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It is fascinating to see where people come from and what made them become a hypnotherapist.
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We've got going to the UK HC, the UK Um hypnosis convention in November, and Paul McKenna's going to be there.
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Where is it being held this year?
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Yeah, it's Heathrow.
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It's uh uh the Renaissance Hotel in in just outside Heathrow Airport.
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You can actually see the planes landing from the bedrooms, really.
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It's very, very close.
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And I don't know whether you you know of Paul McKenna over in the state.
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I be I do because I've hung out with us for a long time.
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He isn't a one of the if people have heard of hypnosis, they're likely to have heard of his name.
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Yes, yeah.
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So um Paul McKenna's actually he's actually doing a talk on the Sunday.
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So I might I might ask Adam, who runs the UK HC, whether we can ask him some questions, and I might ask him what he did before because I think that'd be interesting.
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Uh but I I think if I'm right, I think he was a DJ, a radio DJ.
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I might be wrong because I know he does radio now, but I think he did radio DJing before he did hypnosis.
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Well, you almost want to ask him how did you get into that?
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I mean, that's uh it's not usually something on the school curriculum for what you do when you grow up.
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Well, yeah, I think you you just there's certain professions, isn't there, that you just fall into.
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You know, you know somebody or you happen to be in the right place at the right time.
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Yeah, like my my husband, we we live in a an indust what used to be an industrial town.
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If you didn't work down the mines, then you worked in the glass industry.
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And my husband finished school, started to do his uh his training with another company, and then his uncle, who worked for the glass industry, actually, he did he was he did his apprenticeship somewhere else, and then his uncle said, Well, there's a job here if you want it, because that's how you got jobs, and he did, and he did uh 36 years working for Pilkintons.
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Oh, you've got heard of that, yeah.
00:19:25.519 --> 00:19:28.559
Well, I think the world has heard of Pilkintons, haven't they?
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Because they they're famous for for the glass, and um and but Eric worked at a place called Triplex, which is three X's, and they did car windows and car, you know, the side windows, the windshields, and and things.
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So you got to decide how to make glass shatter only in certain directions.
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And what's that point?
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Oh, and Concord is just said the windows.
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Excuse me.
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No, we can't forget that then, can we?
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Just told me.
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Yeah, the nose cone.
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So yeah, oh, he's got to get that in, he hasn't.
00:20:05.119 --> 00:20:15.279
Yeah, okay, and then he when the glass factory closed down, when triplets closed down, he went to work for the police and he he did 13 years at the police as well.
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So that's an interesting move.
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Was he was he working obviously for the police?
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Or was he?
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No, no, he wasn't, he wasn't a police support staff.
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He was a Civi, uh he was more of background staff and he worked at the academy.
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There's so there's a really big academy in used to be in Allerton in Liverpool, called Mather Avenue, and uh and Eric worked there.
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So we all come from such interesting places.
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Yeah, it is.
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It's um it is fascinating though, isn't it?
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We know where we all come from.
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We were talking before before we hit the switch on here.
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Changed the way I market at the moment.
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I'm sort of like this particular thing for hypnosis, all my writing is about that, all my radio shows is about that.
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It's a bit different because you and I obviously come from slightly different areas.
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This month, it's medical and dental uses of hypnosis.
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Dentists in this country at least are often told when they're in dental school.
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Not 100%, it's not a requirement, but it's not uncommon to find a dentist who's familiar with it and comfortable with it.
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So I'm gonna start reaching out a little bit more.
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What would they use it for then?
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Terror, mostly, I think.
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Most yeah, having fear of dentists is pretty universal.
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It is, yeah, yeah.
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Which is unfortunate because it's also extremely important if you wanted a healthy heart, keep your teeth good.
00:21:41.839 --> 00:21:46.240
So would it would it be for like calming techniques and yeah, calming techniques?
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Well, yeah, how to ignore the fact that somebody's got a drill in your mouth.
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But there's there's additional perks to it.
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It you you can reduce the amount of blood loss from most of these things through hypnosis.
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Which you think people would find useful.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean you're not likely to exanguinate from having a toothball, but it is there's no reason to throw it away either.
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So I think it's a good idea to to I'm gonna try and reach out this month to more dentists.
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I'm always reaching out to doctors, so hopefully I'll see a little movement in that.
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And just you know, as I as I've told you many times, the real reason I have this business is the educational part of it.
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I want more people to know that hypnosis works.
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Yeah.
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Because I'm at the wrong end of my life to be building a giant practice.
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Yeah.
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And for those of you who are on YouTube, as you can see, bears come to join us.
00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:43.519
Yeah, it's his second appearance now, isn't it?
00:22:44.000 --> 00:22:48.319
Yeah, he's uh and that that's my husband's just gone out, you see, so that's what it is.
00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:50.480
He's um oh he wants company.
00:22:50.559 --> 00:22:51.920
Yeah, making sure you're there.
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He's saying, you know, like where's my where's my buddy gone?
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Where's he gone?
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You know, so he'll he'll just he'll there's a little sofa down here next to me, so he'll uh he'll sit on there and and wait for him to come back.
00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:06.720
Yeah, and next he'll he'll be at the window later.
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Just your so how is your new location?
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Have you finished?
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We've got we've got the electrics coming in very, very soon now that the weather's calmed down and then we've just got to insulate it.
00:23:19.599 --> 00:23:24.319
But I just put a post out on Facebook and Instagram.
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I'll have to show it, I'll have to guess at you and show it you.
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So 10 years ago, Denise, I bought I bought this plant 10 years ago.
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Okay, it's beautiful, and as you can see, it's got all of the little red things, and I've got lots of them coming up up here.
00:23:42.880 --> 00:23:48.319
I've had it for 10 years, this plant, and it has never ever had a red flower.
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Never.
00:23:48.960 --> 00:23:52.480
Well, you've been very patient all nine years waiting for it to get around to it.
00:23:52.799 --> 00:24:02.640
Yeah, so I think I think I've just put a quite a humorous post out, a social media post, saying, Do you think my my plant likes coming home with me?
00:24:02.799 --> 00:24:05.359
Because it's thriving, absolutely thriving.
00:24:05.599 --> 00:24:09.279
Well, you get quite a lot of sun in the where you where you're yeah, we do, yeah.
00:24:09.440 --> 00:24:17.680
It we get it in the morning here, that it comes on this side on the morning and then it goes round, and then we've just got it over there before going down.
00:24:18.079 --> 00:24:20.880
You said now the weather's stopped being weather.
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Is your were you having mostly rain?
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We were having thunderstorms for the last week.
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We've had a lot of rain this for these past few days, but Sunday, this Sunday, it's gonna be very warm.
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I think it's gonna be well, I don't know what it is in Fahrenheit, but it's 25 degrees here.
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Yeah, that's warm.
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Yeah, it is it is for September, really, isn't it?
00:24:42.559 --> 00:24:45.759
So I'm looking forward to that because we can get out in the garden and get some.
00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:48.880
I think my husband's gonna pray for rain so he doesn't have to go out.
00:24:49.039 --> 00:24:49.920
I know you there.
00:24:50.720 --> 00:24:52.960
I like I like being at home.
00:24:53.119 --> 00:24:55.599
I didn't yeah, I thought I wouldn't.
00:24:55.759 --> 00:24:58.000
I thought it's such a quick commute.
00:24:58.559 --> 00:25:03.680
Yeah, I thought I wouldn't like it because well, not like not not like it.
00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:07.279
I I thought I'd I'd have a little miss the office.
00:25:07.519 --> 00:25:31.599
Yeah, I don't I don't miss it at all, and it's great because I've done I've had a few meetings this morning, I've had one cancellation this afternoon because uh the young girl's not well, and I've just got on where I've just been sat in here and I've just got on with like lots of admin, uh, you know, more changes to my website, and I've also I put the washing on.
00:25:31.759 --> 00:25:34.240
I've folded, I've tried it, I've folded it up.
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So it usually I'd be doing that when I got home.
00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:40.000
It is nice, and I wish I'd have done it sooner now.
00:25:40.319 --> 00:25:44.720
Well, most most things in life that will be one of the things we say.
00:25:45.039 --> 00:25:46.480
I didn't think of this before.
00:25:46.640 --> 00:26:03.920
Yeah, I know it has, it's been it's been it's been very nice, and I'm I'm looking forward to the winter, really, because it my little commute is literally, you know, I'm gonna have to count my steps, aren't I, and see how you have to go backwards and forwards several times to be worth it, but yeah.
00:26:04.640 --> 00:26:09.839
But I think I'm using my steps anyway, with all the the walking around and all the bits and pieces that I'm doing.
00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:16.160
How much travel time will you save if you were to really be using that for your for your clients?
00:26:16.480 --> 00:26:18.319
How much travel time do I expect?
00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:22.240
Well, it's only it's only a mile up the road, my office.
00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:26.319
So it was like a 10-minute drive anyway, to get from that into the other office.
00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:27.039
Okay, yeah.
00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:42.000
It is, but for my clients, it's so much better because they don't have to pay for parking in in the town centre, and also they can literally park on my driveway and just walk through.
00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:47.839
They don't have to pay for parking, they don't have to worry, you know, like I'm paid enough for my parking, you know, look at the clock.
00:26:48.079 --> 00:26:49.519
So, yeah, it's great.
00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:54.799
We just have to think, well, does my husband need to take the car out if somebody's coming?
00:26:54.960 --> 00:27:01.440
So every morning we we sit there and I go, Yes, I've got one walker, I've got two people in come coming in cars.
00:27:01.519 --> 00:27:06.000
So if he needs to get out, he'll move the car because it's it's right on the driveway.
00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:08.640
So, but yeah, it's I do like it.
00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:09.440
I do like it.
00:27:09.519 --> 00:27:13.039
I'm not as I don't feel I'm very much like that plant now.
00:27:13.119 --> 00:27:14.400
I don't feel as stressed.
00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:21.359
Yeah, we're all looking at those for the every as you get towards the end of the year, you have to have a long conversation with you.
00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:22.559
Am I gonna give this up?
00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:28.240
I don't really want to give this up, but you know, it's 200 here, 150 there.
00:27:28.319 --> 00:27:30.640
It's just it just adds up.
00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:31.519
It does.
00:27:31.680 --> 00:27:34.160
I mean, I was I'll I'll be perfectly honest with you.
00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:39.279
I was paying probably about 12,000 pounds a year to stay there.
00:27:39.519 --> 00:27:41.039
It's a lot of money, isn't it?
00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:47.039
So that's like I have to earn a thousand pounds every month before anything.
00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:49.920
Just to yeah, just to yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:27:50.160 --> 00:27:56.319
I mean, you've got all the certifications and you know groups that you belong to, and yeah, yeah.
00:27:56.799 --> 00:27:58.400
And but I don't miss it at all.
00:27:58.559 --> 00:28:03.119
I don't so I'm just I'm just thinking who are our guests.
00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:08.480
So we've got we've already said who our guests are, but who we've who we've got next week.
00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:14.720
Shall I have a sneaky look and see who's who we've got next week so we can we can talk about it.
00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:16.319
Next week or last week?
00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:18.400
Well, because this is every other.
00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:18.720
Yes.
00:28:19.119 --> 00:28:24.319
Last week we had Melanie Hamilton Davis last week.
00:28:24.480 --> 00:28:24.799
Okay.
00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:31.039
So everybody's already met her, and then next week is Sheila.
00:28:31.359 --> 00:28:32.160
Sheila got it.
00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:32.720
Excellent.
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:43.920
So we'll um we'll be asking Sheila what what what made her become a hypnotherapist when she was uh investigation officer for the Department of Work Intentions.
00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:47.519
So, what are you doing to publicize your new location?
00:28:47.839 --> 00:29:02.400
I've I've just changed everything on Google, I've changed it on my website, I've changed it on Facebook, I've done a lot of things inside my cabin, inside because it's called Little Haven, inside Little Haven to promote it.
00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:10.880
And I'm actually gonna, I might, I'm looking at it, I'm looking at doing some Google ads and just see what happens.
00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:25.680
Because I was I was actually when somebody suggested that I did some adverts, some paid adverts, I automatically thought they meant social media like Facebook, but talking to them today, they said, Oh no, not Facebook.
00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:31.359
Old school newspapers, sorry, magazines, news newspapers, and magazines.
00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:36.559
Yeah, it's they they just suggested uh Google, so I'm gonna give it a go and see.
00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:47.039
I'm at the top of Google anyway, so if anybody puts me in Google, I will come, I'll you know, like I've taken a major tumble, and I think it's AI's fault.
00:29:47.119 --> 00:29:54.559
But I I while I was waiting for my doctor's appointment this morning, I just wrote Hypnotist near me, hypnotherapist near me, and I was like number five.
00:29:54.720 --> 00:29:57.200
And a couple of them were way outside of Wilmington.
00:29:57.440 --> 00:30:06.319
But if you if you have a look at it, if it said sponsors sponsored, then they've paid for those ads, haven't they?
00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:07.839
The above the curve.
00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:15.920
No, I I'm yeah, I think really I'm gonna have to get a little old school and go get more magazine articles and that kind of thing.
00:30:16.640 --> 00:30:36.559
Yeah, I've written to a few newspapers this week because there was a the BBC or wonderful British Broadcasting Corporation put out something about there were six-year-olds going to AE with mental health crisis points, you know, like breaking points, really.
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And I just think six year olds.
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Six-year-olds, yeah.
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And I jumped on it and said Can you give an example of what kinds of things they were?
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I mean, were these six-year-olds standing in windows saying they were to take a walk?
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Or no, I just I just think they're going because the pet well, you see what what's happened here, Denise, is since lockdown, since COVID, our doctors, our our local GPs, and well, right across, you know, right across the the country, you can't get an appointment at the doctors.
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So I remember years and years ago being how being able to ring the doctor and say, Can I have you got any appointments for Tuesday?
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Or have you got any appointments for Friday so that you could book time off work or book time?
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You used to be able to, oh yeah, two o'clock's regular clerk, like and you just got in line.
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Yeah, and you were seeing it.
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Yeah, we've done more or less in the order you were saying, yeah.
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Yeah.
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I remember going to the doctor's with my mum and getting a number, and you sat there with the number and you all moved around, you know.
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But now, since lockdown was lifted, you writ that you cannot book an appointment with a GP.
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You can book with the nurse, but you cannot book an appointment with the GP.
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What you have to do is you have to ring up at 8 a.m.
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to try and get an appointment.
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So if you're that seems so silly.
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Why can't they say you can be next Tuesday if you're not going to drop one of it?
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They won't do it.
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Yeah, they won't do it.
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So I think what's happening with these children is these children are struggling with it, could be anxiety-related issues, it could be they're taking the they're taking them to AE.
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We've we've been told a few times to take, I know you you know that my daughter's just had surgery to remove a gallbladder, but at the beginning, when she was just having stomach pains after she'd eaten, we didn't know what it was, and the only place we could go to was either the walking centre or to AE.
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And that's why it's it's such a mess at the moment because we we've got a thriving clinic centre in the town centre where my doctors, and this I think there's three or four floors where you've got GPs or different surgeries, and in the middle, like in the atrium, so sort of so to speak, used to be the waiting room for the phlebotomists and also for physio and OT and podiatry.
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That is empty.
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So you used to walk in and it would be full at eight o'clock in the morning, it would be full of people going for blood tests, but now it's empty.
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So goodness what they're doing.
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Where are the where are those people going?
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Because it's not like feet got cured by COVID.
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Don't know.
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Don't know, haven't a clue.
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It's it's it's really, really scary.
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It's very, it's very worrying.
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Now I had an operation, I had surgery last September on my foot, and I went for my checkup.
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That was last September, and I went for my checkup only a few weeks ago.
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No, quite a few months ago, sorry, and they're referring me to podiatry because of the way that I walk with my foot, because subconsciously I'm avoiding.
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Yeah, I'm still waiting.
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Well, podiatry is not too difficult to get an appointment here.
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There are there are quite a few podiatrists.
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Yeah, no.
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I I could get one if I pay private, which I think I'm going to end up doing.
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But my daughter, who who's just had her gallbladder out, she was admitted into hospital about six or seven times before they actually said, right, this is what you need.
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And it was only a wonderful surgeon who works privately as well as for the NHS that says, I'm getting you in as an emergency, and now she's in recovery.
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It's it's shocking.
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But hypnosis can help with a lot of these issues.
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It can, it can.
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It can.
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But this is if you think about the knock-on effect that the RNHS and the services have on people, people are more re are looking more at private therapists to come and help them rather than wait, go on the waiting list.
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One of the children that I've got coming next week to see me has been already been to CAMS, which is the Child and Adolescent Mental Health Service, and they've been told that uh, sorry, has already been referred, and they've been told that there's uh a 26 to 28 week waiting list before that they will be seen.
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So mum and dad are bringing him to see me.
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Yeah, it's shocking.
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It's just the way I don't know what's happened to our GPs and why the surgeries are empty.
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Because there's no when you do go to the surgery as well, there's nobody ever in the waiting room either.
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Very strange.
00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:33.119
Why don't we ask our audience if they would please send us any of their own particular stories, theirs or stories they've heard, because it would be helpful.
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And as always, our information is in the show notes.
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All right.
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So I guess you are going to a client now.
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No, I have finished now for the weekend.
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I've I've just really been blasting all my admin and everything today.
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So I haven't finished for the weekend.
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I told her fib.
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So I'll be doing a little bit of work tomorrow, and then my daughter is coming along because she adds things to my website.
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Oh, she's what she's back at work.
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Well, she's back at work for me.
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She's having a free dinner, so she's uh can't drive yet.
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So she's still got all her staples in, but she can't drive yet.
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So we'll pick her up, we'll bring her here.
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She can have dinner and then we'll drop her back off again.
00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:16.239
So she's uh Okay, my dear.
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Thank you very much.
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No problem.
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I shall see you next week.
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Yes, and things we'll be with Sheila.
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Yes.
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Take care.
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