Speaker 1:
0:03 Welcome to the Tuttle Cline Show. Tuttle Cline.
Speaker 2:
0:10 Tuttle. What's going on? Is that you on my screen?
Speaker 1:
0:16 Yes, it is. Yoda, Yoda it is. You didn't start with a song man I don't want to be too predictable well, that's not predictable, because you always switch up the song yeah, I just I don't want to be too true.
Speaker 2:
0:35 I mean it's like I was. I've been looking at our uh video of our podcasts on youtube uh-huh and, uh, I'm like the consecutive days of wearing black shirts, you know.
Speaker 1:
0:47 What brand is that that you got on there?
Speaker 2:
0:49 I don't know Some kind of Amazon shit or skin Doctors, doctor skin, I think doctor skin oh doctor, skin.
Speaker 1:
0:58 Ok, it looked like or skin to me and I'm like boy. You put an F in front of that. It's a whole different meaning. Or skin, what do you want, foreskin?
Speaker 2:
1:07 Exactly, Of course. What are you wearing? If you're not wearing foreskin, what's your problem?
Speaker 1:
1:16 This kind of brings up something that I just thought of before. We connected okay. So you know, roberta Flack died, right.
Speaker 2:
1:24 No, I did not know yeah, 88 years old. She was killed softly by als oh man, what I see what you did there yeah, killing me softly with his song was her greatest hit yeah, I see what you did there, calf. When did she die Yesterday? Oh man, that sucks. What too soon.
Speaker 1:
1:47 It's never too soon, Exactly. So here's my thing Lou Gehrig's disease, ALS. That was named after Lou Gehrig because he had it, okay, and of all the things to have named after you, a disease that kills, okay. But it got me wondering. All right, do you think there's any Irishman named Pete Ophile?
Speaker 2:
2:09 I mean you got to immediately ditch that name you do you have to. Yeah, I mean, you gotta be like I. I don't know what you're thinking there, dad. You didn't think this one through, did you Dad? By the likes of the Blarney Stone, I gotta say, dad, pull up a Guinness here. Let me talk to you.
Speaker 1:
2:39 That's a good brogue. You got there, buddy. I'm getting killed at work here.
Speaker 2:
2:43 Huh, I'm getting killed.
Speaker 1:
2:46 Got a restraining order by all the elementary schools. What the hell why?
Speaker 2:
2:50 What are you doing there, daddy Connor McGregor? He's going to kick my ass here, right? I don't know, is that any good? It's been a while since I've done an Irish accent. No, that was really good. Really good I spent a while since I've done an Irish accent. No, that was really good, really good. Well, that's awesome because I have 1.2% of Irish lineage there?
Speaker 1:
3:12 Yeah, because you did your Ancestrycom and all that DNA kind of stuff, right?
Speaker 2:
3:19 Yeah, and I learned something recently because Audrey did too she leans more heavy German than I do, really, yeah, and I was like wait a minute, this shit's not adding up here. I mean the math isn't right. And then I learned something that different siblings have different numbers. No kidding, yes, it's not all exactly the same. You know, I lean more. My heritage leans heavy British.
Speaker 1:
3:57 Yes, Heavy English Tuthill yes.
Speaker 2:
4:00 Heavy English, wales, scotland. I mean I'm heavy on that Not as much you know. Wales, scotland. I mean I'm heavy on that Not as much of my mom's German side. But you know, that wouldn't necessarily be true for Todd and Tina and Terry. They may have different mixtures. They may have gotten heavy, more heavy on the German.
Speaker 1:
4:20 Sure.
Speaker 2:
4:23 So I mean, that's certainly possible. Not, and not every sibling has the exact percent mix.
Speaker 1:
4:28 That is really really interesting.
Speaker 2:
4:30 At least that's what. That's what Audrey was telling me, probably to avoid that awkwardness.
Speaker 1:
4:36 Now, Audrey's too pure. She ain't going to lie about that.
Speaker 2:
4:39 No, no, and it is I double. Of course, I fucking double check.
Speaker 1:
4:43 Yeah, absolutely so. How much Scandinavian do they have? Do you know oh?
Speaker 2:
4:49 yeah, there's a ton.
Speaker 1:
4:50 Yeah.
Speaker 2:
4:51 A ton of the Sweden. I mean you can just look at Audrey and Jonas and tell, right, yeah, I mean there's a ton, but she has more German. I mean she is majority German, 56% German, wow, and I'm not majority anything.
Speaker 1:
5:08 Yeah, you're pretty evenly split right.
Speaker 2:
5:10 Well, yeah, but it's split among the kingdom. Yeah, I mean it's like 26% German, there's a little bit of Swedish in there and then the rest of it is English. Know, is English, you know it's Irish, it's Wales, it's Scottish.
Speaker 1:
5:29 You know sure, yeah, a wee bit of Scottish because they don't like them all jammed together.
Speaker 2:
5:34 You know you, the last thing you want to do is tell, like a Scottish person hey, I'm just like you. Look at my ancestry and it's like Irish and Wales. No, you're not, no, no, you're not, no, laddie, you're not.
Speaker 1:
5:49 All of a sudden, they're fighting you with a bunch of horses.
Speaker 2:
5:52 Put them up there, laddie.
Speaker 1:
5:54 Painting their faces blue.
Speaker 2:
5:56 Hey, Ian, we got ourselves a cockney here that thinks he's one of us.
Speaker 1:
6:05 So stupid. Whoever determined that that was the greatest boxing stance? With your fist backwards?
Speaker 2:
6:14 There's two. You know I gotta tell you, and you know this of me, I was a little bit of a pugilist. You know you get to be, you know, 10, 11, 12 years old, up to about 22, 23.
Speaker 1:
6:32 It was a prolific career.
Speaker 2:
6:34 Yeah, you know, you get yourself into these little brawls, these little spats, if you will, and there's a couple of ones of note, including a guy that squared off with me. Like that, Describe Kev. For those not watching on YouTube, they're listening on the platform.
Speaker 1:
6:59 Yeah, it's the early boxing stance by John L Sullivan. It's, you know, one hand is forward, but the back of your fist is showing instead of the knuckle part of your fist.
Speaker 2:
7:11 Yeah, so yeah, that, uh, yeah, unfortunately for for for that, and I guess fortunately is. I was laughing too hard at that. I thought he was kidding, I thought it was a joke. I was just laughing and he's like ah, come on, let's go. Come on, I don't remember if he had an Irish accent and I'm just inserting it. That seems to be the theme right now.
Speaker 1:
7:35 Yeah, well, anybody that holds their fist like that, that's what they have. Yeah, that's universally determined.
Speaker 2:
7:41 But I was just like what dude? No, no man, you know, I don't know what you're doing. Man, come on.
Speaker 1:
7:50 He was trying to diffuse the situation. He subscribed to the Tim Tuttle thing and if he can't fight, make him laugh. Oh it was awesome.
Speaker 2:
7:57 Everybody around was. You know, you know that, you know that that that thing is when you get in a fight, all of a sudden hey, it's on, it's on. Everybody starts gathering around, sure, and as soon as everybody's gathering around, he's like I'm like I can't hit a dude. That is this fucked up in the head. I can't. Yeah, and he knew it. Yeah, he's like yeah, dude, I'll buy you a beer, let's go. The second unusual one I think it was, I want to say probably sixth or seventh grade, and there was a guy in our class. His name was Mario Gennaro.
Speaker 1:
8:39 I've heard of Mario Gennaro.
Speaker 2:
8:41 Yeah, he was actually related to the Milwaukee Ballesteros, which are the mob La Familia. La Familia Well known for getting rid of people via car bombing. They invented the car bombing.
Speaker 1:
8:55 Wow, that's something to have your hat on, exactly.
Speaker 2:
8:58 Exactly. Hey, let me tell you, we didn't do real good with the numbers, we weren't real good with the prostitution and, hey, we could have done better with, you know, the bribing and shit like that. But the thing we nailed, we were good at bombing and that was a big revenue. When, when other families throughout the nation because they're all, they were all connected cav the coast of, the coast of ostro, they were all connected. Yeah, when they wanted somebody bombed out, they called milwaukee and milwaukee would said this guy okay, no problem, hoboken, new jersey, all right, what's this fucking moley look like you know, I know exactly what you're talking about yeah, yeah, but mario genero, um, he, uh, he decided that, uh, he was gonna get a little squirrely one day.
Speaker 2:
10:06 I, I think we were playing four squares or kickball or something like that, and you know, like six and six and seventh grade in the early 80s cab, you remember, of course, we loved our four square, we did yeah do they even play that now? No, do they play kickball?
Speaker 1:
10:23 There's actually a professional kickball league. Did you know that?
Speaker 2:
10:26 I love kickball.
Speaker 1:
10:27 Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:
10:28 But anyway, we were having one of those playground recess disputes or whatever, and you know he was trying to get in my face about some kind of call or something. I just pushed him. I said Mark, get the fuck away from me Now. I did that when I did not realize not realize, kev, that he was connected at that point it was shortly thereafter that I learned that mario was connected.
Speaker 2:
10:52 Otherwise I probably would have handled it a little differently. A little bit, because everybody in milwaukee, we knew about the balistrier balistreries uh-huh, you don't fuck with balustrades, correct? Um, anyway, uh, uh he, he squares off with me after I push him. You know doesn't do the bad thing. But you know, what he decided to do was take swings at me and add his own sound effects that's how I know, mario genero.
Speaker 1:
11:21 That's it. You remember this story?
Speaker 2:
11:23 of course I do yeah, he was going biff and kapow, you know, just like batman when on tv when we were kids yeah, zap boom again, again, kev, everybody around you know, because they gathered around from from the kickball teams. They gathered around because, like, oh here goes tuttle again again, and they heard him doing that. Everybody just started cracking up, of course, and he even started laughing too, because he didn't realize he was doing it.
Speaker 1:
11:53 That's funny, yeah, but I mean, how would you not want to fight Mario Gennaro every day?
Speaker 2:
12:00 Oh my God, you know well the thing is and I didn't learn it is he didn't fight Mario Gennaro every day because his uncle is a balustrade Right. And again, had I known that I would never have done If he had a problem with the kickball, I'd be like, hey, you're right, man, I was out Anything. You want, Mario? That's right. I want my dad to be able to turn his ignition in his car and it not blow up tomorrow.
Speaker 1:
12:39 Exactly what I was thinking.
Speaker 2:
12:40 Yeah, my dad with his griswold station wagon wood panel. I was thinking, yeah, my dad with his griswold station wagon wood panel. I'd hate to see that because I got in a dispute with you know, one of the son of the disciples or whatever, that my dad was no longer allowed to live. No, I was like, yeah, from that point on, mario was much more palatable to me.
Speaker 1:
13:01 Of course, he was, of course, yeah. So Anyway, what was Of?
Speaker 2:
13:04 course, yeah. So anyway, what the hell were we doing? Okay, he just got into Roberta Flack. Why don't you just continue with think, as you heard right there, I have. No, I had no idea who died. I don't know who dies anymore and maybe that can get that. You can do that when you lead with the things that I didn't like know or hear about over the past week, because I'm off the grid right now and I just don't watch news. I don't comb through social media, I'm just doing my own thing in my own pocket in the world. Uh, roberta Flack died. Anytime somebody else dies, let me know, because I I found out one I can't remember what it is. A few weeks ago I had no idea that they passed away none oh, oh.
Speaker 1:
13:44 Al Troutwig died the other day too. Remember Al Troutwig, the great sports commentator. Did Ironman triathlons, did the Olympics a few years. Brilliant, brilliant broadcaster.
Speaker 2:
13:57 No, no, I did not. Who else has died recently off the top of your head, Kev, Celebrity-wise, I can't, you know. There was one that was like man. I wish I'd have known when that happened, but it happened like weeks or months ago or whatever.
Speaker 1:
14:12 Yeah, I'm having a difficult time remembering anybody from earlier this year. I know there are some, but I can't remember Okay.
Speaker 2:
14:20 Just kind of have that on your to-do list. I need to know if, like people that we grew up and had an effect on us pop culture-wise, I need to know if they died so I could give the memory the memory thing.
Speaker 1:
14:34 Yeah absolutely. We want to do that.
Speaker 2:
14:39 So what's happening in the world? I don't know if you're going to cover this or not, but I just want to say there's one current event thing that I really dug. What is it that NHL four nation shit was?
Speaker 1:
14:49 awesome. Yeah, beats any all-star game that they ever, anybody could ever put forth. You know, that was what took place in of the all-star game. They didn't have an all-star game, they did that instead.
Speaker 2:
15:00 That is the way to do it. I, that is the way to do it.
Speaker 1:
15:08 I don't know again nba and nbas was around the same time too, and that was horrific.
Speaker 2:
15:11 Yeah, I mean, that was god awful. And the nfl's pro bowl is a fucking joke too. I mean nba and nfl you got, even if you have to shut shit down for a week, like they did do, do something like that because that kev. I'm watching NHL games now. Yeah. Oh yeah, that was the best advertising the NHL could have done. Yeah, yep, the, the, the four nations. I love that and I love the. The final was a USA versus Canada.
Speaker 1:
15:40 Correct At the TD garden in Boston.
Speaker 2:
15:42 They beat us in overtime yeah. However, we will get the last Correct At TD Garden in Boston. They beat us in overtime, yeah. However, we will get the last laugh when Canada becomes our 51st state. Well you know they're calling us their 11th province. Now, I like that, I like that Go ahead.
Speaker 1:
16:04 We had the interesting. So the college hockey team that I'm the public address announcer for Drury University, the coach rented out a theater, you know, like a like a movie theater, and we watched it. We watched it as a team, with all the players, all the coaching staff, trish me and a couple of the other volunteers, and there's 22 Canadians on the team and four Americans, and the four Americans sat together up in the top and the 22 Canadians sat together down at the bottom and it was. It was amazing to watch those Canadians just burst with pride and enthusiasm when Connor McDavid scored that game winner.
Speaker 2:
16:37 That's. That was pretty huge. I mean, you know, again, when you're talking about Canada, you know there are cute little brothers who will eventually be our 51st date, who, once you like you know, make them a part of our talent pool. We will dominate international competition till the end of time, but we beat them two nights before. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:
17:04 Yeah, and there were three fights in the first nine seconds of the game. The Kachuk brothers were two of them that fought.
Speaker 2:
17:12 Yeah, yeah, I like that the Kachuk brothers were like no, you can't boo our national anthem, sorry.
Speaker 1:
17:17 Well, and they also did that because they wanted to set the tone that they were not going to back down. And so they actually set that up, that they were going to go out there and fight in the first 10 seconds of the game, because they wanted to set the tone that hey, we're in your face.
Speaker 2:
17:32 Yeah, I like that. I. There's all kinds of. There's all kinds of uh, uh, mind stuff happening in hockey games. Indeed All kinds of psychological shit. Uh, you know, that's why I kind of miss the, the goons. To be honest with you, I miss them.
Speaker 2:
17:47 Oh, they're coming back, oh good, good you gotta, you gotta, protect these, these, uh, these little gnats and flies that are making all the moves and scoring and everything I mean you. You knew never to fuck with gretzky, because you would get your ass kicked yeah, oh yeah, marty mcsorley was going to take care of you oh yeah, and you know some of the other goons like probst and uh teo manti, what is that? No, what is it? Oh ty, domey ty domey, now, he was a little guy dude, he was a little guy he threw down he, just he.
Speaker 2:
18:20 Well, he got man, he he would. He would wrap the jersey, uh, and that's hard to do when you got a shorter guy. He would wrap the jersey and then he would punch up. And that's hard, man. He would get in there where some bigger guys would be away from you and they can't get in there. Yeah, yeah so yeah, he had a great technique.
Speaker 1:
18:37 No, check out the New York Rangers. There's a kid. He's in his second season. His name is Matt Rempe.
Speaker 2:
18:49 R-E-M-P-E and in his first five games I want to say he had six fights. I like it, man. I mean, you know, I know they tried to clean up hockey, but you got to have that element there.
Speaker 1:
18:56 You know, every so often the fans like when the gloves drop, they like that it serves a purpose, and the purpose is if your team is down and you need to infuse some electricity with your team, that's one of the easiest and fastest ways to do it is get into a fight, ok. Another thing is it tells you that, hey, you know what? We're not backing down from you. We might be at a disadvantage with the amount of goal scoring we have. We're not going to back down from you. And yes, it is, it's a crowd pleaser.
Speaker 2:
19:25 Well, and the most important thing is, you got to protect the goal scorers. You have to, and most of those dudes are tell me if I'm wrong Kev 30, 40, 50 pounds lighter than average hockey players on the ice.
Speaker 1:
19:40 Yeah, they're faster skaters but they are usually smaller in stature, which I was talking to our coaches last night during the coaching show that we recorded, and I asked about Alex Ovechkin, because Ovechkin is 13 goals away from becoming the all-time leading scorer in NHL history, beating Wayne Gretzky's number.
Speaker 2:
19:58 And.
Speaker 1:
19:58 I asked. I said you know who's better, Ovechkin or Gretzky? And the coaches both said you can't compare, because Gretzky was slighter in stature and Ovechkin's a different player because he's bigger and he does assert his physical dominance. I'm like, so wouldn't that make him better? Because he would be an all-around player. He goes in there, he hammers people and he scores goals. And they said it's just a different NHL. Now you know, the size is way different too.
Speaker 2:
20:23 Yeah, you know, Kev, I was looking at around Super Bowl time the starting offensive lines of the Philadelphia Eagles versus the Green Bay Packers 1967 Super Bowl one they had that stat yeah, isn't that like 100 pounds difference?
Speaker 1:
20:43 It's crazy, kev. Oh, it's nuts. You know, I've lost, I've lost, I've tightened up a little bit.
Speaker 2:
20:45 I't that like a hundred pounds difference. It's crazy. Oh it's nuts. You know I've, I've lost, I've lost. I've tightened up a little bit, I've leaned out a little bit. You know, when I, when I was in my two, 25 to 30, I could have played a guard for that green Bay Packer team. Yes, you could have. Yeah, you know. I six, two, two, 30. I could have been an offensive guard in the NFL around the time I was born. 6'2", 230, you're a small linebacker now. Oh, kevin, I'm a decent-sized safety Uh-huh yeah.
Speaker 1:
21:15 Free safety, yeah, so, and it's the speed at which they're playing too. Yeah, those big guys in football and in hockey. Holy smokes.
Speaker 2:
21:25 The way they move. I mean, it is a completely different ballgame. But when you get a guy like Gretzky, he's one of those dudes, just like Jordan.
Speaker 1:
21:39 They're those type of dudes that would figure out a way to dominate somehow. Well, Gretzky was famous for the line I don't go where the puck is, I go where the puck's going to be. That was a revolutionary statement at the time. You know, yeah, so, yeah, that that's what set him apart was he didn't go where the puck was. He was going where the puck was going to be and nobody's there except wayne gretzky it's.
Speaker 2:
21:59 It's funny, because that's the same thing, the good quarterbacks that they do when they're in the passing game. It's like I'm gonna throw the ball where you should be. Uh-huh, yeah, you know that, you know you, you should be there.
Speaker 1:
22:11 If you aren't there, you didn't get your separation and that's on you right, yeah, well, if you throw on the ball to where a guy is, they're not going to be there when that ball arrives. Nope, it's called pick six baby. That, hey, I know we're talking about the different things that, uh, that you know have happened and I'd like to get back to that. But, um, we're talking about Wayne Gretzky, and that leads me to my top three for you, just when you thought they couldn't count any higher. It's Tuttle and Klein's top three, top three greatest athletes that you saw live. You were in the stadium or in the arena.
Speaker 2:
22:44 You saw them live uh, you know, cam, the first thing that pops into mind and I know this, is you tell me if I'm out of line here. Um, you know, because you know my, my upbringing. Uh, in terms of auto racing, if you don't mind, I would like to tell you a few race car drivers that noticeably you could see, even from the stands, like a ways away, that they were better, more aggressive, took more aggressive lines and were just better racers. Can I start there?
Speaker 1:
23:17 It is your top three. My brother, Do whatever you want.
Speaker 2:
23:20 Yeah, kev Nigel Mansell, I loved him. That guy you could tell was on a different level.
Speaker 1:
23:28 British guy, wasn't he?
Speaker 2:
23:30 British guy, and you know just one of those guys, you could visibly see it Dale Earnhardt, senior, senior. Yeah senior, I mean dale jr was okay, yeah, but, but his dad was just a different kind of animal yes and the same with, uh, jeff gordon. You could just look at jeff gordon, notice he's doing shit. That's different, uh-huh. But but the best of all Kev, it was Rick Mears.
Speaker 1:
24:04 Rick Mears.
Speaker 2:
24:05 Like when I was a kid, you know from the late 70s, I think he won his first one in 79. Kev will put it right here he won one in 79. That was his first one and I was there for that one. I was 10 years old. He won four. Did he win four? He won four.
Speaker 1:
24:18 Uh-huh.
Speaker 2:
24:19 He won four. He won four. He won one in 79, a couple in the 80s and then I think he won one in the 90s Again. Kev will have all his years of winning right here posted, or even if you were just watching closely on the ABC telecast, you notice he is aggressive and, yes, he had the Penske machinery, but he is aggressive. He takes a different line and he jukes and fakes the other guys like you really don't see too often. Okay, so Rick Mears incredible to watch in person. I love this, which is the reason why I acted like a schoolgirl when I saw him in Houston before the Grand Prix about what? 10 years ago?
Speaker 1:
25:11 Hey, how lucky do you think we are that we got to see Elio live.
Speaker 2:
25:15 Elio Castaner was great. That was so cool, yeah, yeah. And we also hung out with gosh, I forget his name. The guy with the nose, oh, tony, tony, I love Tony. Yeah, yeah. And we also hung out with gosh, I forget his name, the guy with the nose. Oh, tony Kanaan, tony Kanaan, I love Tony Kanaan. Yeah, yeah. And then Dale Jr was there.
Speaker 1:
25:31 But I mean getting to actually see them live and performing. I mean, at the time we saw Elio, he was the greatest driver on the planet.
Speaker 2:
25:40 Yeah, when he did the Spider-Man. Yeah, that was great. That was great. That race started off with my brother flying over the uh the the helicopters in the Blackhawk helicopter before, which was awesome, and then ended with Elio climbing up on the fence.
Speaker 1:
25:56 Yeah, dude, I was balling when Todd flew over, wasn't that awesome? Oh my God, man flew over, wasn't that awesome?
Speaker 2:
26:01 Oh, my God man.
Speaker 1:
26:01 Yeah, I mean, it's emotional, even if you don't know one of the pilots just flying down the front stretch. But man, to know that you know my radio partner's brother's up there. Yeah, that was pretty badass.
Speaker 2:
26:10 And I remember because you were a little ways away from me, so I was sitting next to some strangers and during it I was like that's my brother up there in the helicopter. I was a little buzzed and the guy's like sure it is no. No way, man, you can't. You can't tell this guy.
Speaker 1:
26:32 Tell him yeah well, I couldn't because I was crying.
Speaker 2:
26:36 Yeah, no.
Speaker 1:
26:37 He's crying.
Speaker 2:
26:39 He's crying God dang it. Yeah, that was cool. Yeah, that was cool, all right. All right, let's go. Let's get back into the um. I'm trying to think live sports. I um, I saw in the 2022 season, just before the astros won the world series, I saw alvarez get three home runs in one game. I was at that game. That's amazing. I thought that was awesome. That was impressive to me.
Speaker 1:
27:07 Hey, what's Houston's attitude about Bregman leaving?
Speaker 2:
27:12 It's pretty quiet, is it Okay? But then again, kev, I'm off the grid, yeah, so I don't know, I don't know, but you know, now he's with the Boston Red Sox, so he's our mortal enemy. Fuck him.
Speaker 1:
27:25 Right, yeah, but yeah, I mean the Astros moved on.
Speaker 2:
27:30 They moved on. You know what are you going to do?
Speaker 1:
27:31 Yeah, but I thought they made a pretty decent offer to him, so I don't know what the problem was.
Speaker 2:
27:35 No, exactly. So which is why, hey, fuck them.
Speaker 1:
27:39 Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2:
27:40 You know, go to Boston, that's goal. You know, go languish in Boston, watch Kev. They'll win the whole thing. Yeah right, oh no, it's impossible for anybody to beat the Yankees or the Dodgers. They're the greatest.
Speaker 1:
27:58 Uh-huh, yeah, I fucking hate those fuckers.
Speaker 2:
28:05 So, alvarez, the three run game. That was amazing. That was amazing. Kev um, I watched vince carter, oh yeah nba player nba player. I got the opportunity to watch him uh in an orlando magic game toronto rapper raptors back in his rookie season or second year or something like that. And Jesus, that dude is unbelievable.
Speaker 1:
28:27 Yeah.
Speaker 2:
28:28 I saw him get a couple of breakaway dunks and I was like, wow, that was cool, nice. Yeah, I was there with Peyton Manning 50th touchdown back in 04. Oh cool, I was there for that. I was there for that. I was there for that. That was awesome.
Speaker 1:
28:47 No, Robin Yount.
Speaker 2:
28:49 Oh, kev, robin Yount was awesome to watch in person. I mean, particularly that 1982 season was amazing. You know I loved it and, kev, I even liked watching Pete Vukovic pitch.
Speaker 1:
29:06 Greatest stash. He and Raleigh Fingers had a great stash.
Speaker 2:
29:10 Oh, he had the Fu Manchu man. Yeah, yeah, he just the funny thing, kev, because I'm a little kid, I'm young, then I'm just a young kid. When we got Vukovic, the Brewers got Vukovic and I saw him outside of County Stadium. You know you could wait outside and watch them come through the doors. He was the scariest looking dude. Yeah, I mean, he frightened people, but he was the nicest guy Anybody that had the balls to go up and actually talk to him, because he just looks menacing. Right, and maybe it's because I'm a kid, you know, but he just looked menacing, looks scary, it looked like don't bother this guy. But you know, if you did walk up to him and you know, not as many walked up to him as molitor and you know, and cecil cooper, gorman thomas, always had a following, you know the big, lovable, uh, teddy bear, gorman. But if you walked up to vukovic he would talk to you, man, he would and joke around with you and, you know, pat you on the head and hit on your mom and try to fuck her.
Speaker 1:
30:15 Yeah, vuk was all right.
Speaker 2:
30:18 Yeah, vuk was all right, nice. But yeah, the only real dick I remember was the Indiana Pacers had a player named Dale Davis and I saw him at a bar in Indianapolis and I said, ah man, good to meet you, buddy Big fan. And he just looked at me like you're a fucking piece of shit, oh wow. And I was just like no, good to meet you, buddy Big fan. And he just looked at me like you're a fucking piece of shit, oh wow.
Speaker 1:
30:45 And I was just like no, fuck you. Yeah, dude, I'm the guy that goes to your games and pays your salary.
Speaker 2:
30:48 Yeah, I've just and Kevin, and whenever he faltered, I was just like you got it coming, motherfucker.
Speaker 1:
30:55 Dude, that's another great athlete.
Speaker 2:
30:56 You got to see miller reggie miller was fun man I. I saw him when he drained like seven, three pointers and two quarters man. I mean he was just he.
Speaker 1:
31:06 He got hot, it was over I know you're gonna say jordan, but for my money, if the ball game's on the line, I'm giving the ball to reggie miller that dude, he could hit clutch all day I never saw michael jordan in person yeah, I never did either.
Speaker 2:
31:20 Never watched him in person I, I, I always put it off, I always put it off like I'll get him next year, and it just never happened. Yeah, that's one regret I have, of course, is is not seeing him.
Speaker 1:
31:31 But who do you?
Speaker 2:
31:32 got. Who are your top three? My three are uh, barry sanders yep, yeah, you saw him oklahoma state when he was a cowboy.
Speaker 1:
31:42 When he won the Heisman. Yeah, that was my freshman year.
Speaker 2:
31:45 Man, that was an unbelievable season. He had like 2,200 yards or something like that, from minus scrimmage.
Speaker 1:
31:51 Yeah, I want to say he had five games, or six games of 300 plus yards in a game. That's just crazy. Yeah, it was nuts. That's crazy, gretzky. When I was a sophomore in high school, I saw the Edmonton Oilers play the St Louis Blues and Gretzky tapped his stick at me on the glass.
Speaker 2:
32:08 Yeah, can I?
Speaker 1:
32:09 tell you this Please do.
Speaker 2:
32:11 You can look this up if you don't believe me. Before he went to the NHL, he played for the Indianapolis Racers as a 17-year-old, I believe it. Look it up and double-check it, okay, and we used to do ice skating. We used to have ice skating sessions and everything like that, and there was a time we'd get done and then the racers come out and they have to practice and at that time he had a little mullet going on and everything like that. And at that time he had a little mullet going on and everything like that. And I remember that we would gather around because we'd watch him do drills and we just couldn't believe how fluid he was, how quick he was and the fact that he was 17 years old. Yeah, and I remember somebody saying in the background background saying see that guy right there. He will one day be the best there ever was.
Speaker 1:
33:07 Well, he's called the greatest.
Speaker 2:
33:08 And everybody like looked, was chuckling. He's seven, he's a seven, he's 17 years old and look at him. He looks so skinny and young and everything like that. He's going to get his ass kicked by these monsters up in the NHL. You know people were thinking that yeah.
Speaker 1:
33:23 No, it didn't happen.
Speaker 2:
33:24 But yeah, gretzky, that was cool, I just saw him in practice.
Speaker 1:
33:27 Okay, well, you got to see him. You got to see him before anybody knew man, that's awesome At 17. Yeah, that's super cool. And then I kind of have a toss up. I don't know if it would be Itchero or Kobe.
Speaker 2:
33:40 Ooh, that's tough.
Speaker 1:
33:43 Yeah.
Speaker 2:
33:44 When did you see Itchero?
Speaker 1:
33:46 Well, when he played for the Yankees at Minute Maid against the Astros. How did he do that game? Oh, how didn't he do it was amazing. He made the greatest throw I've ever seen. You can say that Dave Parker throw in the All-Star game was number one. I'm going to say that's number two now, from what I saw Itchero do. He threw a BB from the base of Towles Hill to home plate and threw out somebody tagging up from third. It was a rope that he threw from that far away in center field.
Speaker 2:
34:16 Better than Bo Jackson, Harold Miner.
Speaker 1:
34:19 Yep, I know, dude, I know we're splitting hairs, but I mean it. I saw it live.
Speaker 2:
34:25 it was a moat, it was amazing that is cool that you saw it live yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:
34:30 The bottom line is we have been very, very lucky in our life to see some great athletes, professional athletes, live yes, speaking of which kev I would you know?
Speaker 2:
34:38 you know how I am. I I like to look up, uh, you know uh, air disasters. It's a thing of mine. Is that a rabbit hole? Well, not really, because it was just the Kobe one.
Speaker 1:
34:48 Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:
34:49 So unfortunate what happened right there at the helicopter crash. It was a guy that was just a really, really good pilot and I think because initially it came out that Kobe they're saying Kobe probably may have pressured him to get to the basketball tournament quick, but that's not the case at all Every pilot has said Kobe has never said anything. He has always said let us do our job, get us there safely of kobe's and, uh, you know somebody that that, that, uh, he wanted to impress. He wanted to impress kobe so much that he just he got caught in some fog and he got that, that, that spatial thing where he didn't know up, up from down, didn't realize he was banking left, thought he was rising and he's banking left straight into a hill at 160 miles an hour.
Speaker 1:
35:40 Man dang, yeah, yeah that's gonna leave a mark yeah, that's too.
Speaker 2:
35:47 Hey, did you know, did you? Yeah? And again, for those of you who are a little, uh, sensitive, uh, you know you might want to tune away just for a minute or so, but you do. You know that. Uh, it, it. They found kobe in pieces.
Speaker 1:
36:03 Yeah, okay you knew that.
Speaker 2:
36:05 Yeah, I thought some of him was burned well, yeah, and, and let you know, they, they, when they had the autopsy, it's like they had to put a leg here, a leg there and you know his brain. They couldn't find his brain really I didn't know that yeah, yeah, yeah I don't know why Cause that part of that rabbit hole is. I was looking in the autopsy stuff and I probably shouldn't have.
Speaker 1:
36:27 Yeah, that's 160 miles an hour into a brick wall. Yeah, that's, that's some impact.
Speaker 2:
36:31 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1:
36:34 None of them felt I was going to say. That's the saving grace he didn't feel it.
Speaker 2:
36:38 No, but they they didn't even know because it was zero visibility. Kev.
Speaker 1:
36:43 I know.
Speaker 2:
36:43 I mean it was zero visibility. I mean, one minute, you're like talking and goofing around with Joe and everything like that, because Joe Altobelli was in there too. You're goofing around and the next thing you know it's just over. Yep, you know, you're doing the heaven float going. What the fuck happened there? Yeah, nice wings, joe, wait a minute. What's going on here? Oh shit, man, I hate, I knew that fog was a little thick. Yeah, um, anyway, kev, what else, what? What else is happening in the world that I need to know about anything?
Speaker 1:
37:25 Yeah, yeah, I wanted to talk to you because we started the program with uh, talking about, uh, you know, odd names. Uh, here's a guy in Nebraska. He, he has his own daughter. She's two years old and she can't get a social security card or a an actual birth certificate because the mom, when she gave birth it was a home birth and she immediately gave it to a foster family in Nebraska and they had the hospital spit out a computer name for this girl. Now her real name is Carolyn. That's what the? That's what the dad's calling her. Uh, on her fake or on her temporary birth certificate that they cannot get changed, her name is Unikite 13 Hotel, unikite 13 Hotel. That is on her temporary birth certificate that the Nebraska courts won't change because they say that the guy had nothing to do with the name and so he can't properly get a birth certificate for her. So he's hired a lawyer and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2:
38:26 But yeah, that's just ridiculous.
Speaker 1:
38:28 I mean again.
Speaker 2:
38:29 it's a common sense thing. Use your discretion. Yeah, you know, I know we got to keep to tight regulations. You know that whole zero tolerance and tight reg. That's just stupid. You're a fucking judge, man. That's what you're supposed to do. You're supposed to judge that you can't have some third grade little girl walking around with a fucking name like this. Let her get a real name. But no, you got to be an asshole in a black robe with a hammer, thinking you're the shit. No, you're not the shit, You're the fucking problem?
Speaker 1:
39:00 Well, she can't get any health care or anything, because you need a social security number for that again all of these out of line.
Speaker 2:
39:06 And you I hear about it, kev, all the time, about these judges who get just drunk on power because you know they can't be beaten in an election or they're they're, they're, you know, given the gig, you know, uh, for a lifetime gig and they're just out of control there. There should again more citizen tribunals, kev. Start judging the judges and putting them in fucking prison If they're out of line. Seriously, it's just ridiculous.
Speaker 1:
39:34 Well, you know, we, we said that, uh, a computer picked that name Unikite 13 hotel. Uh, here's another computer issue and I can't wait to get your assessment of this. A new album was recorded over in Britain and it's called Is this what we Want? And it was recorded by 1,000 British musicians, including Annie Lennox, cat Stevens, damon Auburn from Blur and Kate Bush. And you know what they recorded? What 12 songs of silence and you know what they recorded?
Speaker 1:
40:01 What? 12 songs of silence. Each artist went into a room and just stood there and they recorded 12 songs of silence. And they're doing it in protest because check this out, Tim the UK government is consulting on whether to let tech firms use copyrighted material to help train AI models. To help train AI models. So they want to use these artists' real songs, copyrighted material, and let AI train with them to basically make these artists obsolete.
Speaker 2:
40:32 Wow, yeah Well, we talked about this a few months ago, that eventually there will be no Hollywood. All the movies will be just AI generated. That's where we're going. I mean, all you'll have to do is feed the script into the AI and it'll spit out your movie. That's where this is going. Jonas told me that a long time ago, because he's always been ahead of the curve. He's the AI software engineer guy. He just said yeah, there's so many industries that are over. So the thing about live music, though, is or musicians is, you still have the live music concert option? Yeah, the AI holograph thing is not going to take you over.
Speaker 2:
41:21 No, there's nothing like a live concert but, yeah, your music, uh, your music is just going to be, you know, okay, one run of the mill or just like whatever you know.
Speaker 1:
41:32 Yeah, yeah. I just I can't imagine why the government would want to do that Take copyrighted material, somebody's hard labor, and just not compensate them for it. You know, basically steal it.
Speaker 2:
41:44 Yeah, well, as we know from Napster 25 years ago, we don't like to pay for shit, you know True? Yeah, Thank you very much. All right, what else is happening, Kev?
Speaker 1:
41:57 That's about all that. I found that would be interesting to you, so you know all that I found that would be interesting to you.
Speaker 2:
42:04 So you know, speaking of found, if you know what I found, you know I I like to uh enter uh sports betting contests. Yes, now I don't put my own money because I live in texas and you know you can't since I, since I live in texas I'm treated like a child by people in austin.
Speaker 2:
42:20 They won't allow me to bet on poker, or, you know, they bet on sports or anything like that, which is ridiculous. I mean, we should be the freest state in America instead of you know this bullshit, fucking nanny state, you know whatever. Anyway, I was doing some research looking for a plum pick and this, to me, is one of the saddest things. Last month, a NCAA basketball team, north Carolina A&T did you hear about this? No, I have not. They suspended three players, okay, and it was undisclosed, but there were rumors floating around that it probably is a point-shaving scandal. Oh, wow. Now, for those who don't know what a point-shaving is, kev, please explain.
Speaker 1:
43:15 It means that they're purposely throwing the game. They're trying to take points off the board the game they're.
Speaker 2:
43:24 They're trying to take points off the board. Yeah, either, either uh, completely throwing the game or just not winning by as much, or making sure you keep the total underneath, you do your part to not score, or whatever. Yeah, uh, that's what point shaving is. Um, so, just hearing the rumor, the NCAA launched its own internal investigation and you know what their conclusion is what there was no point shaving whatsoever. This is just a really really bad team.
Speaker 1:
43:58 Wow, nice, isn't that sad man.
Speaker 2:
44:03 That's very sad.
Speaker 1:
44:04 The NCAA is just just like yeah, they're just, they're not good I mean it's sad about that, but I mean it's good for those three players who got suspended that they didn't do anything wrong I.
Speaker 2:
44:13 I don't know if they're out of suspension and I'm not sure that was even it. It was a point shaming, it may have been something else oh, okay, but you know, obviously that that the north carolina a and a, t, a and t coach.
Speaker 1:
44:25 He needs them back on the team yeah, get the talent, man bring it because because they're terrible.
Speaker 2:
44:45 Gav, that's unreal. I know you know me my deep thought cardio and I want to know what your feel about this is.
Speaker 1:
44:52 Okay, deep thought cardio.
Speaker 2:
44:54 When I was doing deep thought cardio, I was just thinking everybody's mama fucking lied to them.
Speaker 1:
45:01 How so? I saw this on the BP.
Speaker 2:
45:07 You're not special, you're not one in a million People. Like you grow on trees. They really do. I mean, yeah, you're different, you're different. It's like a snowflake Everybody's different like a snowflake. You're different. It's like a snowflake, everybody's different like a snowflake. But a snowflake in the end is just a bunch of really chilled fucking water. It's not that special, you know. Yeah, and I was just thinking about that as some mom I'm watching some mom this poor kid just cannot hit a baseball. She's trying to pitch to him underhanded or whatever, tommy, you can do. Oh, that was a good swing, you know, that was good. I just like the kid's not special. He just this is not his thing. Right, it's not, it's your thing because you want it to be your thing. So you're putting it on the kid. The kid's unhappy, the kid's unhappy. The kid doesn't want to be out there, he wants to be doing something else.
Speaker 1:
46:05 Yeah, it's not a lot of people's thing. There's only what? 32 teams and there's only 26 people on a team. You know, in the major leagues.
Speaker 2:
46:16 It's not a lot of people and God bless her, she's keeping it positive. You know, oh, that was a good swing. We just got to level it out a little bit more, and this, that and the other, you know, and I was just thinking about my own upbringing I mean my own mother never said anything positive to me at all, ever, not one time, not once Nothing. I mean not when I was hitting home runs, not when I was striking out the side for six, seven innings in a row, not when I was dunking a basketball. I mean, never had anything positive to say to me. Uh, you know, kevin, I've told you this before, when we were in tallahassee we had our first tuttle and kline billboard.
Speaker 2:
47:08 Yep, and I drove past the the billboard, you know, trying to have her look up because it said tuttle and kline and huge letters on a billboard, and she, oh, yeah, nothing, just wow, just nothing, nothing didn't. And I say, did you see that? Oh, ok, that's good, ok, yeah, just nothing. And I remember a few years ago, you know, driving her around like the last time she was in Houston, and you know, let her know, hey, we want another Marconi. You know, we're CMA radio personality of the year, kevin and Erica and I and she immediately go well, you should see some of the things Todd's doing with the Blackhawk helicopters Immediately into that. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So I never got anything like positive, nothing you used to have motivation positive, nothing you used to have motivation.
Speaker 2:
48:10 Oh I, and I gotta tell you I couldn't thank her enough for doing that for me, uh-huh, because that that chip on the shoulder has been a huge motivator, yeah, huge motivator, you know. So I, I, I, just I, I don't understand. I think that we and again, I know you know there's people that are listening or watching right now oh, tim, we, you know, we hear about all the nice things and positive feedback you give your own kids.
Speaker 1:
48:37 Well, yeah, you learn how not to do it.
Speaker 2:
48:40 Yeah, I fill them with positive reinforcement all the time. With a caveat though. I tell them you're entitled to nothing.
Speaker 1:
48:50 Yeah Well, and you don't sugarcoat anything with them either. No, you don't make them think that they're better than what they are. When you tell a kid that can't hit a baseball, oh you're doing good. You're just setting that kid up for more failure.
Speaker 2:
49:07 Well, no, I and that's another important thing you never, ever, make the kids live through your shit. Oh, yeah, no way, yeah, through your shit. And I think that's something that happened to you. Your dad wanted to be a baseball player so bad, or something like that. Or, you know, wanted a pro, be a pro athlete, or somebody like that. That. Once you showed, oh, my boy, kevin's, got some skills.
Speaker 2:
49:29 uh, that was it yeah, yeah, no, I I was uh, I was uh motivated uh by negativity as well yeah, I mean, I, kevin, I, after every season with my kids, I always, you know, I like like hey, audrey, you still having fun with this volleyball thing, is it still? You know? Do you want to try new stuff? He's like no, dad, I'm a, I'm a fucking all-american. We're gonna ride this ride a little more yeah, a little bit yeah, every time I walk down the, I'm a freshman dad.
Speaker 2:
50:04 and every time I walk down the hall, I'm a freshman Dad. And every time I walk down the hall, seniors salute me. I'm cool with this man, you know. Yeah, yeah, but anyway, that's where it comes from. Just this poor kid, you know, just watching this poor kid, uh, just trying to uh uncomfortably let his mother know, hey, man, I just want to go home, you know.
Speaker 1:
50:33 you know what I'm saying oh, I know exactly what you're saying. Oh, for sure, yeah, because because if you're, if you're continuously getting this kid to do something that he knows he's not good at, you're just reinforcing a negative perception of himself.
Speaker 2:
50:51 You know. Encourage them in what they're passionate about.
Speaker 1:
50:53 Let's find something you're good at. Let's find something you're good at and that you like.
Speaker 2:
50:56 Well, yeah, not even the good at the passionate about, because you can always get good if you're passionate. Yeah, don't limit it to good Cause you know I'm a great masturbator, but I don't, I don't want to join any professional leagues, wow, all right, yeah, they just cause you can, and that that even includes in life too. In terms of career, you can monetize your passions. Yeah, oh, now it's easy, and that's what I tell my kids. I'm like, hey, whatever your passion, go with that, and you know we'll do some brainstorming, we'll figure out a way that you can monetize that. Right, because I want for them what we had I mean we had 98 percent of our radio career was a blast because it was a passion.
Speaker 1:
51:52 Absolutely oh, there was nothing else we wanted to do.
Speaker 2:
51:55 Exactly so. I want that for my kids too. I want them to to do their passion. Yeah, I mean, regardless of how much money, that money doesn't matter.
Speaker 1:
52:04 Oh no, I always tell kids this If you are willing to work for free, then you have found your passion.
Speaker 2:
52:10 That's it, that's, that is exactly it. And, kev, I was thinking about that the other day, like I had somebody asking me hey, you know, you've been futures trading, you know watching charts for hours every morning for the past three years. You still enjoying it? I'm like fuck, yeah, I love it, I just love it, and I probably would even do it if I wasn't making any money doing it, because it's just the puzzle solving the daily puzzle, matching my wits against the most brilliant minds and robots and algorithms in the world. So, yeah, I would. So I'm.
Speaker 1:
52:53 I'm getting a second chapter of the passion yeah, you've always loved challenges and that's a challenge that's a huge challenge, kevin, and I enjoy it.
Speaker 2:
53:01 I really. But like you, you know you had, you had a 30 year career on something you enjoyed and now you have the option of making sure that you enjoy everything. And here you are. You're there, you're the public address announcer of a college hockey team and also, you know, a double a baseball team for the St Louis Cardinals. How fun is that.
Speaker 1:
53:28 Dude, I pinch myself every day. You know, I thanked the coaches last night during the coaches show that I hosted. I'm like I just can't believe that I'm lucky enough to be doing what I'm doing.
Speaker 2:
53:39 Yeah, and they'll feed you with the stuff that we were fed in the radio career. It's like, oh no, no, you're good, we're glad you're here, you know, yeah, and you're just like I would have done it for half the money. Nah, seriously, I would have done it for half the money, you know.
Speaker 1:
54:00 Yeah, I mean again if you'll do it for free. I volunteer for the hockey team.
Speaker 2:
54:06 Circling back to my trading Kev. I mean, I just got done making money, you know about an hour and a half ago, and I'm done for the day. I solved the puzzle.
Speaker 1:
54:20 I beat the robots, I beat the MIT and Harvard graduates and got my little taste for today and I just love that, and you don't have to go into somebody's office and find out how badly you messed up on the air because you didn't talk about this and you didn't talk about that. And well, I would have taken a different approach on this, you know or you know, I'm a.
Speaker 2:
54:41 I'm a new owner and a new manager for the owners, and I don't give a fuck who you are and what you've done for 17 years. You don't matter to me. Yeah, you don't. And I'm going to get my own voice in here, because you're Johnny Chang's voice, you're not my voice. Yeah, you know. No, I don't have to deal with any of that shit.
Speaker 1:
54:59 Yeah so.
Speaker 2:
55:01 And I love it.
Speaker 1:
55:02 Much simpler life.
Speaker 2:
55:03 I know, hey, kev, let's talk about rabbit holes, can we do? We have time? Sure, yeah, why not? All right, let's go into rabbit holes real quick. Rabbit hole of the week, all right. First off, what did you find yourself? Just completely, oh my God. I've been on this for hours now. I can't get out.
Speaker 1:
55:24 It's kind of similar to what I talked about last week, where I was watching dog videos. I was looking up adoptable dogs this week, really.
Speaker 2:
55:33 Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, Are you wanting? Now you have your Pomeranians, right.
Speaker 1:
55:43 Well, we have one. The mayor died last year. Pinto, sorry, that's okay, no, you didn't know, pinto, sorry, that's okay.
Speaker 2:
55:46 No, you didn't, I forgot man. I'm sorry. No, I did. You told me, I'm so sorry man.
Speaker 1:
55:51 It's all good, buddy, but hold on, hold on hold on.
Speaker 2:
55:53 No, no, I want to do this right now. No, quick moment. Moment of silence for the mayor. All right, wow, you didn't like the mayor. That's a moment of silence.
Speaker 1:
56:16 People are going to think we went off the air.
Speaker 2:
56:18 Let me tell you this right now Kevin Kline more than anything in the world hated dead air. Oh, I couldn't stand it, man Couldn't stand it, couldn't, oh my god oh, you'd see, you could see his skin turning inside and out going, oh my god we're off the fucking air, anyway go ahead, but yeah, no we still have beans and in, because he doesn't have a companion around anymore.
Speaker 1:
56:41 He is like a completely different dog. He is so skittish, he is so afraid of everything he like. Yeah, and so we're thinking about getting a companion, just to make sure that you know he's mentally stable oh, poor guy, how old is he now?
Speaker 2:
56:57 seven, seven, that's 49 to you and me that's correct, sir. Yeah, so he's your age, so now he's your age, so now he's better. Yeah, exactly, jaded.
Speaker 1:
57:13 Yeah, irritable.
Speaker 2:
57:15 God damn government, all right. So what kind of dogs are compatible with Pomeranians?
Speaker 1:
57:25 Oh, we're still looking at palms, yeah, yeah, I mean, we're pretty well set on the breed. You know, I would love to get a german shepherd or a great dane. I just don't want to clean up all that big poop well, not only that, but you know, you got.
Speaker 2:
57:38 You got a giant dog and a little pomeranian, and if that german shepherd ever gets hungry, yeah right. Sorry, man, I had to do it, I was hungry. You guys took too long to fill the bowl. Motherfucker, it's your fault, your fault and yes, he was delicious so, yeah, that's, that's where I've been.
Speaker 1:
58:05 What about you? I?
Speaker 2:
58:07 uh, kev, I've been, um, looking up like the origins of, uh, you know, extreme sports. Okay, because I'm very interested in the people who decided, hey, man, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna be first, and I guess you can really even start with the Wright brothers. I mean, those guys were extreme sports enthusiasts. Yeah, flying an airplane then was risky shit. Man, that's crazy ass shit, you know. Oh, absolutely, and the one I really got into was base jumping. Okay, it was. Have you done?
Speaker 1:
58:48 that I have not, and that's that.
Speaker 2:
58:51 That's how it all started. Is I started, you know, checking it out and I'm watching documentaries. Um, base jumping. For those of you who don't know, it's base is actually an acronym, and I didn't know this until I started investigating. Base is uh, b is for building, a is for antennas, like radio and tv towers, s is s is for spans, bridges, okay, and e is earth, you know, like cliffs and shit, yeah, so that's base jumping, uh, and it was pretty much invented in the early 70s. Guy named carl banish, uh, invented it when he decided uh, you know, skydiving is not enough. Um, the yosemite national park I don't know if you ever heard of el capitan, oh, absolutely yeah, the rock formation at yosemite, yeah, he decided, him and some friends were just going to jump off of it and then parachute down. You know that's how base jumping started.
Speaker 1:
59:48 how long do you get to free fall on a base jump? Because he decided him and some friends were just going to jump off of it and then parachute down and that's how base jumping started. How long do you get to free fall on a base jump Because you're jumping from a?
Speaker 2:
59:55 shorter altitude. Four or five seconds, that's it. Huh, four or five seconds. Well, hey, kev, here's the thing, and this is how they do. It Is, they'll go from where they want to jump off, they'll drop a rock and count Really, and that's how they know when to pull the chute just before that count Holy smokes.
Speaker 1:
1:00:17 That's it, that's it.
Speaker 2:
1:00:18 Did you know the first building Carl Banish and his crew, the first building that they ever jumped off of Houston, texas, really, the Texas Commerce Building, which is now the JPMorgan Chase Building downtown Houston, when it was up for construction back in the early 80s I think 1981, it's still in construction they went up there up the stairs you know construction sites, they don't have heavy security, you could just walk right in and that's what they did. On a Sunday when nobody's constructing, they just walked right in, walked up the stairs, went up the top jumped boom.
Speaker 1:
1:00:55 Yeah, you want to see how lax security is on construction of a building? Look up the documentary man on Wire. It's about Philippe Petit and he stretched a cable across the World Trade Center towers when they were being constructed and walked them.
Speaker 2:
1:01:12 Kev. I watched that because you know I'm a extreme sports guy.
Speaker 1:
1:01:15 It's my favorite documentary of all time.
Speaker 2:
1:01:17 That I didn't the thing I didn't like and they shouldn't have done. Yes, he shouldn't be allowed to do that. And yes, he needs to be taken in and questioned and fined. And you know, if you got to have him overnight in jail, that's fine too. But at the end of the wire on the other tower, two police officers waving him in as he's finishing, that was bullshit. Yeah, that you can wait, but he's not going anywhere. No, he's not, he's not going anywhere. No, he's not, he's not going to go anywhere. You let him finish instead of like, like, intimidating him. I thought that was bullshit. I was that really angered me that they couldn't just back.
Speaker 2:
1:01:54 They were like reaching for him and, you know, standing there with their arms. Don't do that.
Speaker 1:
1:01:59 Well, and you know because they did that he stayed out there longer. Had they not been there, he would have gotten off a lot earlier than what he did he went 13 times across and back.
Speaker 2:
1:02:09 Yeah, they should not have done that. I mean, you know, just, he's not going anywhere. You got one set of cops on one of the world trade center towers and one on the other, and when he comes down you can grab him. Yeah, they shouldn't have done that, though, because I, I, I felt for him. Then he's trying to do I mean, that's intense shit. Right there, man, you think, yeah, you're 1100 feet up, man, you're dead. He doesn't have a net. No, no, he's dead. Yep, god, I love that stuff anyway. Carl banish, the uh base jumping inventor yeah, I guess he thought he was like, really, really like indestructible because he did a jump that ended up on the world. Him and his wife broke the world record on an ABC program I think it was Robert Frost and a young Kathie Lee Gifford were the host.
Speaker 1:
1:02:56 OK, it wasn't that terrible.
Speaker 2:
1:02:59 No, Kathie Lee Gifford.
Speaker 1:
1:03:00 OK.
Speaker 2:
1:03:01 You know Frank Gifford's wife. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Not.
Speaker 1:
1:03:04 Kathie Lee Crosby.
Speaker 2:
1:03:06 Not Kathie Lee Crosby, right. But they did the jump, they broke the world record. And that night he's like oh, now I'm going to go to the one. They told me not to jump because after you drop the rock it lands really quickly. But I can jump out from it.
Speaker 1:
1:03:23 He thought he could but I can jump out from it. He thought he could. He died. Oh wow, yeah, 1984. That's what I was going to ask. Is the world record the shortest altitude, the lowest altitude, or it would it be the highest altitude to base jump? Cause I would think that the higher the altitude is safe for the base the jump is, the lower the altitude. Okay, you got a record there that's.
Speaker 2:
1:03:44 That's. That's a good point. Calf, oh you did. You did 4 000 feet. Oh, big deal. I mean you had plenty of time to open the shoot, float down, I'll go. You know the guy who does hey, 210 feet, let's do exactly, that's the record I'm impressed because I don't know if you remember this or not. When we worked at the lnc tower in nashville, I was talking as a publicity stunt to launch our first ever morning radio show. I wanted to base jump off the lnc tower you asked numerous times.
Speaker 1:
1:04:18 You asked for that and they did not want me to do that yeah and and now I see why is it's a little tight well, the other reason too is because, uh, 10 months before we hit the air, somebody base jumped without a parachute. So exactly, yeah, yeah, didn't need that publicity again do that.
Speaker 2:
1:04:39 Hey, that changed a lot of people's day it certainly did, it did I forget. Oh, that's, was it laura tosh?
Speaker 1:
1:04:48 yep, yep, gummo she was.
Speaker 2:
1:04:50 She was the secretary, yeah, like the receptionist. And she just notices this lady, you know, walking in and want to check out the uh observation deck and she looks over and suddenly the lady's not there that's right yeah, yeah, had some green day playing in her headphones and suddenly the lady's not there, that's right.
Speaker 2:
1:05:11 Yeah, yeah, had some green day playing in her headphones and took the leap, yeah, and speaking of which Kevin, you know you're talking about me based. The reason I'm getting into this is I I'm thinking of, like, like launching a YouTube series. You know, generation X, we're not dead yet and me just doing some crazy, fucking shit.
Speaker 1:
1:05:27 Oh yeah, think about it. That'd be awesome. Thinking about it. Would you start with base?
Speaker 2:
1:05:35 jumping. I don't know, but I'd want to do all kinds of stuff, like I would want to do cliff diving and swim with charts. I want to jump as high as I can off of a building into the pool, you know, like a hotel building into the pool. I want to do that.
Speaker 1:
1:05:51 Oh, wow.
Speaker 2:
1:05:53 Yeah, I want to. I want to do that, I want to go, I want to go. Uh, yeah, in a, in a cage with sharks, you know, great, great whites. I want to do all that, okay. I think I do, and just just do a youtube series. You know the old guys, we we're not dead yet that's a great name for it.
Speaker 1:
1:06:15 We're not dead yet. Yeah, nice, be a great name for it I mean gen x kev.
Speaker 2:
1:06:22 We're Gen X. Yeah, we were the original extreme sports people, exactly right, we did all that stuff the bungee jumping, the cliff diving, the stuff that you see. That was us. So, yeah, that's something I was thinking about.
Speaker 1:
1:06:39 Carry that torch, Timmy.
Speaker 2:
1:06:42 Yeah, my ex-wives are all for it. They're like do that like. You got my support.
Speaker 1:
1:06:50 100 motherfucker, all right I've got to wrap it up.
Speaker 2:
1:06:58 Okay, buddy, that was a lot of fun. Yeah, for sure, as usual. Hey, please do us a favor. Uh, download this episode. If you're on one of our platforms right now, please hit the download. Pressing play is fine, but they keep score by download, so we ask that you would do that for us. Give us a rating, follow us, tell your friends about us. Like us. We got merchandise on the Tuttle Kline Facebook. Uh, we have Tuttle Kline Instagram. Tuttle Kline TikTok. That has daily um snipp. Cline Instagram, tuttle Cline TikTok. It has daily snippets from the show that we have a lot of fun with Kev. Anything coming up this week? What do you got going on this week?
Speaker 1:
1:07:33 Well, if I could, I'd like to plug this for anybody who's listening in the Springfield area or who doesn't mind making a nine-hour drive from Houston to Springfield. On Sunday, march 9th, we are showing Delivering Hope, the documentary made about my November 2019 run in Alaska. We're showing at one of the theaters here in Springfield as a fundraiser for the hockey team. So it's three o'clock in the afternoon matinee and tickets are on sale. I've got the link right down there on the bottom of the screen and we'll do a Q&A afterwards with with one of the guys in the film.
Speaker 2:
1:08:06 Me Wow. So Sunday March 9th, delivering hope, and then the next Sunday, the 16th, I'm going to have a viewing of deliverance.
Speaker 1:
1:08:20 The live version Squeal like a pig, nice gone yeah I gotta go that's it for this episode of the tuttle and klein show. See you this wednesday for an all new episode, and thanks for listening to the tuttle and klein show. Yo, all right, take the yo out.
