Why playoff baseball hits different for players

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We are talking to you in the offseason.
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Troy, I don't know about you.
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I needed about every year I need about two or three weeks to kind of recharge the batteries a little bit.
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Here we are, roughly two or three weeks after the season.
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How are you feeling at this juncture in the early offseason?
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I forget sometimes how much my body can recover and actually feel good because that uh that July to September, you wake up and you're like, I don't know how I'm gonna get through my day.
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Then you do your prep work and then you do all this stuff.
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And you know, I'm I'm drinking a cup of coffee here.
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Speaking of that, I switched to back to my Jacksonville mechanism coffee.
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So shout out to Mechanism again if they want to actually reply to my emails.
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But I emailed Sarah the other day as well.
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So hopefully good things happen.
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But mechanism, the one of the best coffee in Jacksonville.
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I switched back, and all of that recovery and stuff, my body's actually feeling good.
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I sleep better.
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It's you know, there's all these less things going on.
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And so those two or three weeks are very, very helpful for anybody in baseball.
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Now, I do want to say it has not been it's been a restful or maybe replenishing whatever term you want to use, two or three weeks for you.
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It has also not been without stress.
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You guys just completed a move to Austin, Texas.
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Congratulations.
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Thank you very much.
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We're we're Texans here for now for six months with our house.
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Do you have cowboy boots yet?
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See, you know what's funny is I actually bought cowboy boots or Haley got me cowboy boots, my very first pair, but she bought them in Scottsdale, Arizona in the fall league, and I've had the same boots.
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They're Jacovas, which of course is an Austin brand.
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I think I've seen you wear those, by the way.
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Yes, they're great.
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And they're some of my most comfortable shoes I possibly can.
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But I don't want to be, you know, the you know, that's the nice part about Austin is you got a lot of the fake cowboys.
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I'm I'm definitely a fake cowboy.
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I am not.
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I, you know, I got it, I got it in my blood.
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My my grandfather was a real cowboy, and so I got it in my blood.
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But it's hilarious to think that, you know, I'm in Austin and I have cowboy boots.
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And I think my next buy will have to be a hat.
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I think I'm gonna have to get a hat.
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And you know what this reminds me of?
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It's like in the NFL training camp where all the players have the blank helmets uh to start training camp, and the coaches are always like, Oh, you gotta earn your your your star for the cowboys, you gotta earn your logo for whatever team, so you gotta earn your your cowboy hat.
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I gotta I gotta go get a get a lasso and a and a horse and go ranch a little bit, I guess.
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How did you guys decide on Austin?
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Out of curiosity.
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Of course.
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Um, so we have we have kind of like three or four options right now for us that we think are like beneficial.
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Um, so we have Texas, Florida, Arizona, and Colorado.
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And so we kind of had a tier list of what we want.
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We've lived in Arizona, we've lived in Florida, we've lived in Colorado, and we've never lived in Texas.
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And so Haley's best friends and her family live here.
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So we have kind of some tight-knit connections.
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And so we were like, you know what, we don't really have any ties.
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The nice part is Texas is right in the middle of everything, so travel's very easy.
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And so we were like, you know, let's move to Texas.
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And it's warm in the in the winters sometimes.
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Sometimes it gets cold, but it's warm in the winters.
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Yeah, it's warm in the winters, and so we're kind of chasing, chasing the cold and chasing the rain, and came down here, and that's kind of how we decided.
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We've spent a lot of time here, so we kind of know our way around.
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Yeah.
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But we're interested in kind of getting more time.
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To see if you like it.
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Yeah, to see if we like it.
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That's pretty much it.
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So we'll see if we like it, see what areas we like.
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And you know, the nice part is we have friends in Houston.
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We have, of course, uh the former jumbo shrimps, the Dane Myers, Tristan Gray.
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We got those guys in Houston.
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We have new friends up in Dallas.
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Um, I know old jumbo shrimp, Colton Hawk used to live in Dallas.
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Now he moved, I think, to Franklin, Tennessee or something like that.
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A little closer to family.
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But he used to live in Dallas.
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And so there's lots of lots of different connections all throughout Texas.
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Awesome guy, by the way, uh, Colton Hawk, which is really cool.
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Um, that's awesome.
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And like for those who maybe are wondering, okay, you do a move.
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What is like the baseball activity right now, if anything?
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Is are you doing anything baseball related?
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Are you even watching the playoffs?
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Like, what's going on for you there?
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Oh, great question on that.
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So I have zero baseball activity right now because I'm I'm the kind of person that I don't need to like get back in the gym right away and like focus on things.
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Like, I'll evaluate and I'll look at video and I'll like say, all right, I'll get myself a plan and be like, what do I really want to work on?
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Um, I we have some things that I worked with was the coaches that you know are not even hitting a baseball, not even throwing a baseball, not even doing anything like that.
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Like it's just more so like training to be an athlete.
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Um, but I'm not gonna start that until probably November when I get back from my vacation.
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But watching the playoffs, so it's funny.
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Haley came across a TikTok that was asking, was like, do MLB players like actually watch the playoffs?
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Do they care?
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Are they like, uh, just shut it out?
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And Haley laughed and responded and was like, No, my husband is more engaged in the playoffs than he is during the season.
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Because for me, if you hear the announcers, you watch the crowds, you see the emotions on the player.
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Like we're we're watching former Jumbo Shrimp, you know, Victor Mesa Jr.
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Yeah, you know, playing for the race and his emotion and how much it means, every pitch, every hit, the bunt, and how much an air, you know, makes or breaks a game.
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That emotion is you just don't get that during the regular season.
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And you know, that's why MLB wants to kind of give more playoff games, is because you get that emotion, you get that excitement, you get all the fans riled up, all the kind, you know.
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Um, I was watching the Padres game.
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I had to go to bed because I didn't, it was a little late for me.
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And I didn't who won last night, Padres.
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Padres, they are still alive.
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Padres are still alive, but they talked about how they had the they're almost there were 60 people short of setting the record for Petco Park attendance.
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They were like 49,000, 46,000, something, something, something.
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And I was like, wow, like that's how many people are showing up.
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And yes, Petco Park usually sells out on the weekends anyways, but they're closer to like you know, 42,000, 43.
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This was like fully standing room only, no seats available, no like nothing.
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And so that excitement around playoff baseball is really what I love.
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So what about you?
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Do you watch playoff baseball?
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Do you care?
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Oh, I guess yeah, I absolutely love it.
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I mean, we're not playing.
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I know that baseball is done after this, and I would watch baseball every single day.
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So this is it, right?
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I have to watch these games.
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So we're recording this on Wednesday, October 7th.
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There's four games today.
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And I have a plan of how I'm going to I don't want to say watch because I'm not going to watch every game, but how I will at least follow all of them.
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And the reason I say follow is because the first game is Cleveland versus the Chicago White Sox.
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And that is a game I will not watch.
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And the reason for that is the radio broadcasters for both of those teams, but in particular for Cleveland, I think Tom Hamilton is literally as good as it gets.
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And obviously, he was inducted into the Hall of Fame this summer.
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He is amazing.
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And so that game I will listen to.
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Part of it, it helps that it's during the workday, it'll be during the commute home.
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And then it's like I could listen to Tom Hamilton as I watch Dodgers Braves, which is such an interesting series.
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The Dodgers are incredible.
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Rage Yankees has really not been that interesting.
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That's the eight o'clock Eastern game tonight.
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And the Rays have a chance to sweep the Yankees.
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The Yankees just to me feel punchless without Aaron Judge.
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And it kind of felt like that way even last year with Aaron Judge.
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It was like he's so great.
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And the rest of their lineup, I don't know.
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I just don't really like that team all that much beyond Aaron Judge on the offensive side, position player side.
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But the Brewers Padres is as good as it gets, and it pains me.
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Like you just said you had to go to bed.
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You're in the central time zone.
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So welcome out of the West Coast and the mountain time zone, but the eastern and the central time zones, that is a killer to have those games on so late because they have been amazing and the crowds have been incredible in both places.
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We knew it was going to be like that in San Diego.
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Their fan base is awesome.
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Milwaukee has been awesome too.
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So I wish that that game was a little bit earlier.
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That's just my one thing is I my kids wake up at like 5:30.
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I just can't stay up that late.
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I wouldn't survive.
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Yeah, you get two hours of sleep.
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Yeah, I had to pick and choose when I stay up, and I had to do that later on in the playoffs.
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That is such an interesting take.
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I would have, and so again, this is my perspective, your perspective.
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That's why we work so well together.
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We're very different in what we like, I guess, about baseball, but you want to listen to the game.
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I want to listen to the game because of the rate.
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Yeah, because of the I would have not thought about that because I like to watch the game, to watch, because I tell people this, they're like, oh my goodness, you must love baseball.
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You must know everything about it.
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I'm like, no, I really don't.
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I'm I've you know, I make fun of this.
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I never claim to know baseball, and I don't know people, I don't know like old players, I don't know new players, I don't know teams, like stuff like that.
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I love like the physics of the swing.
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I love like the the intent, I love the approach, I love how deep how the defenses shift, how they play, how they pitch.
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You know, I love the intricacies of the game.
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And so it's interesting.
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You listen to the game because you like the broadcaster and you enjoy listening to how it's said, how the story is told, because of course every game is a story.
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I watch the game to be like, I my favorite part is when somebody gets a hit, hits a home run, does something, and they give the side view and they like slow-mo side view it.
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And that's like where I'm like, hold on, wait, I want to watch that part.
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Rewind, we're line.
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Let me see the side view, let me see what he's doing, how he's moving, you know, where was his contact point, all this kind of stuff.
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And so that's what I really like watching.
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And it, I could care less who like, you know, gets a hit, this at that, or does this, but I want to watch how they did it, how they prepared.
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You know, how are they swinging it right now?
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Are they coming up?
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Do they have the pitching matchup to match this guy?
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Why do they do that?
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You know, that kind of stuff.
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That's where that's where I think it's so cool in playoff baseball because I also saw a statistic that batting averages, OPS, and total offense actually goes down in the playoffs.
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Yeah.
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Era, stuff, you know, different, different things like that.
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Pitching metrics goes, or not metrics, pitching stats go up.
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And it's because of those matchups, it's because of the pressure, it's because of all those things.
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And I think that's so interesting to watch a guy like Jackson Curio, who, of course, um, I think did he skip?
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No, we played him.
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We played Nashville.
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He was in triple A for literally a week.
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We played him at the end of the season.
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And we played him in Nashville, I believe.
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And so to watch a guy like that, who of course I was playing against in 22 quite a bit, to go up and have the success he did, you know, the the swing he had against uh Robbie Ray, the swing he had against Mason Miller, like that the biggest stars shine on those kind of stages because they're prepared, because they they they know their plan, they've seen these guys, they know what to do.
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And that's what I think is the most intriguing about the playoff baseball.
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Because it's not like you know, your normal day, you know, you pick up you know your phone and you check the stats, and oh, Jackson Cheerio's one for four with a single, you know, today, or this kind of stuff.
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He's like, no, Jackson Cheerio is one for four with a single in the playoff game with two RBIs.
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Like that's crazy.
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Like that's on that's where the playoffs really like attract people, and especially a guy like me.
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And the moment, right?
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The the way that that at bat went with Mason Miller in particular, where it was like he's throwing 104 miles per hour, and Chirio fell behind, and he spit in a slider that was like not that far away from being a strike, and he had barely gotten a piece of a fastball.
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Like the the process of seeing him figure out Mason Miller to me was incredible.
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Obviously, the the moment after that and the fans going crazy was really cool, but the process of figuring out the in my opinion, and you and you've seen Mason Miller quite a bit this year, he's the most unhittable pitcher in the game, arguably.
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And to watch like a almost like a little kid, Jackson Cherrio figure out step by step and get to where he did to line that ball up the middle, I thought was incredible.
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Yep.
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I thought it was too.
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I mean, you want you talk about the the fastball he spoiled on the outer half on that you know outside corner that he just barely nicked, and it was like, oh, he just missed that.
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Then you know, slider away, then he missed over the plate, and that's where it got him.
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And Scott, by the way, you know, you talk about the most unhittable pitcher in baseball.
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You know, I'll send you my single off of him.
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I'll send you a picture.
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You have a hit off Mason Miller.
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I do.
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I have a hit off Mason Miller.
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My very first time facing him, very first pitch.
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He went fastball up and in, and I like shot a single to left field.
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So you were is that what you were presumably you were just like, I'm just gonna gear up for this and just absolutely.
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I mean he's throwing 104.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I'm looking for anything close, anything to anything, anything close to me, because away, you know, it's gonna kind of like move away a little bit more because it's kind of like that when he throws it.
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So I need something in because it's gonna stay straight.
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The the guy who I am so impressed with, there's a lot of great pitchers.
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Like you said, the the playoffs, the offense, it's just really hard.
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You're facing ace-level pitching, they only go for the most part five or six innings, and every single guy out of the bullpen is not that far worse than Mason Miller in terms of stuff.
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So I don't know, I don't know how you guys hit.
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But the guy who is so impressive to me, Yoshi Yamamoto, that guy's amazing.
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He's amazing.
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He's amazing, he is truly amazing.
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And the fact that he kind of really didn't pitch much during the regular season and then just gears up for the playoffs.
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I wonder if that's their plan a little bit.
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They're like, we're so deep in pitching, and like honestly, we're gonna pitch you, you know, take your breaks, take what you need, be fully healthy.
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We're only playing you for the playoffs, pretty much.
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We're we're gonna absolutely abuse you for the playoffs because that's what you we did last year, that's what you did.
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Great.
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You won, you know, kind of one of them a World Series in a sense.
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He did.
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He absolutely and like, you know, maybe they're just saving him for that.
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You say he didn't pitch a ton, he still made 28 starts.
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I know in the uh in the regular season, 185 innings, which is not that far, believe it or not, from the league lead.
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A 2.53 ERA.
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So I guess I must have dodged him.
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So when we were playing them, we never saw him.
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We saw we saw Snell, we saw Shohei, we saw Lara, no, not Lara.
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Lefty.
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We saw Lefty twice.
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Um I think we saw Scooball too, and trying to think who else.
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And Roki Sasaki.
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We saw Roki quite a bit.
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We never we never saw Yamamoto though.
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Oh, and um Glass now.
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Yeah, we saw Glasnow.
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And Robles now.
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Now that you want to talk about we saw Robleski twice, um, and then Sheehan twice.
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Who I it's so crazy to me that Shee-Han would get sent down like that.
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I understand, I understand baseball, I get it.
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I I totally I I understand their rotation.
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It's it's does it's not a surprise to me.
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I'm sorry, it's not it's not surprising that they would send him down, but he's an ace level pitcher on any other team.
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It's crazy.
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He's unbelievable.
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He was he truly had his stuff.
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I mean, he had this ride 95, 96 fastball, he had three different sliders coming into you.
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You get two different change ups.
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Like, it was absolutely incredible to stand in the box against.
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And I was like, I was like, you're sending this guy down because he's your worst pitch.
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Oh, who do you have bringing up?
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Oh, wait, Tyler Glass now's coming back, or Blake Snell's coming back.
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And I'm like, oh, all right, that okay, that makes sense.
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Yoshi Yoshi uh Yamamoto is the Dodgers' third starter.
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He's the Dodgers, like that is absolutely insane.
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Also, there was a great story I read today by Katie Woo of The Athletic about him.
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And when Dave Roberts told Scoobl that Scoobyl is going to be the game one starter for the Dodgers, Scoobyl was like, Are you sure we have Yoshinobu Yamamoto?
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Like, I why do you want me?
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And it's like, that's the back-to-back Cy Young Award winner, and that is the way that they look at Yamamoto.
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And he's a third starter, and he had two and a half ERA.
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I mean, you can make a case that they maybe lined up Yamamoto because he's so good.
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That they figured, like, maybe if we have him do game basically, they have it lined up that he would start game two and game six of the NLCS should they get there.
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Um, and then that that would obviously line him up to potentially make three starts in the World Series.
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So they they might be thinking deeper like that.
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But yeah, Sheehan, we saw when I was at the Marlins and they played the Dodgers.
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Uh, he started the last game of the series, and that guy again is your sixth starter or whatever it is.
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It's the depth they have is incredible.
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It's it's amazing.
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It's absolutely amazing.
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And it's crazy to me to think that they will so that we had it, we had a game.
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We weren't winning this game, but um, I think it was like 14 to 2 or something like that.
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And they don't really have, in my mind, they don't really have like a long guy, if that makes sense.
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Like every team has like a long guy, like you know, starter only goes three innings, four innings, then you got this long guy that comes in and he's like three to four innings, three to five, something like that.
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And the Dodgers don't really have that.
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They expect their starters to go five every time, then they have their bullpen that's set up per inning, per inning, per guy, whatever you want to call it, and they have that set up.
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And then if they're like, eh, we're running out of our guys, we're just gonna throw a position player because we're either up by a bunch or it's like, nah, whatever.
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Like, it's it's crazy to me that they don't, I don't really think they have a long guy per se.
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And that's where Sheehan would like fit into that.
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But do they really need to fit into that when you have, you know, how many ever how many Cy Young's in on one team, you know?
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You expect your starter to go five or six, and they're gonna, you know, put up two or three, they're gonna maybe put up two or three runs.
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That's it.
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Yeah, and their bullpen is also insane.
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Correct.
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It's insane.
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Yeah, yes, it is.
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All right, outside of the Dodgers, are there guys you're like, man, I love watching so-and-so pitch.
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I love watching so-and-so hit.
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Like, who are the people you're really watching for throughout the playoffs here?
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So sneakily, I love how his career took a turn.
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And of course, he's a left-handed first baseman or left-handed bat first baseman, but Jake Bowers for the Brewers.
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He is truly, truly unbelievable this season.
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I love watching his moves, I love the way that he swings, I love his approach, I love all that.
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It's tough because I know how good the San Diego Padres pitching is as well.
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You I mean, you talk about you talk about the Dodgers pitching, the Padres are better.
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The Padres are, I will, this is a hill I will die on.
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In 2026, the Padres pitchers were better than the Dodgers.
00:20:41.200 --> 00:21:05.759
And it's interesting to watch how you know these Brewers hitters are really going about because you know, if I want to talk about like a team that I feel like fits my gameplay more than anything, I'm you know, I'm a little I'm a little slower than average, but they they run well, they put the ball in play, they bunt, they move guys over, they hit well with runners in scoring position.
00:21:05.839 --> 00:21:08.960
You know, you talk about the Brewers lineup, they are unbelievable.
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They are truly, truly an unbelievable team.
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Up and down.
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Like there's nobody taking up, there's nobody taking in that bat off.
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There's nobody, you know, it's the big leagues and it's the playoffs, but there's not a single guy you can just be like, uh, you know, I'll just throw him a couple fastballs, maybe a couple sliders, and you know, we'll get him to we'll get him to chase.
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It's like, no, these guys don't chase.
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They have great plans, they put the ball in play, they force you to make outs.
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Like, if you want to say, like, theoretically, like after that horrendous game by the Yankees, like you want to put the the Brewers and the Yankees against each other in the World Series.
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I don't think the Yankees get out of the first four games.
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I think it's a full sweep.
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But just because you have to be so good defensively against the Brewers, because that's what they do, they put the ball in play and they put together good at bats.
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And so not only that, they got great pitching behind it, and they got young, controllable pitching, but Though that's Jake Bowers is one of the guys I'm I love watching this move.
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I love watching this swing.
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If I can have my dream is to have a either White Sox Rays Brewers World Series.
00:22:13.759 --> 00:22:16.000
So, like what, you know, two of those three teams.
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I would want two of those three teams because I think that would just be, and I understand that maybe baseball doesn't want that.
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You know, they want the the big dogs, they want Dodgers Yankees.
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You know, they both used to be in in you know New York.
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They both both used to you know play against each other, you know, all this kind of stuff.
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They they want the Dodgers Yankees.
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And I know you know MLB wants the Dodgers Yankees, but as a fan of baseball, as people as somebody that's like played against all these teams, I want the teams that are scrappy, the teams that are like, hey, we don't need just one three-run home run to win a game.
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Like, you're gonna have to play us for nine whole innings and maybe even ten to try to beat us because we are not gonna go away.
00:22:55.279 --> 00:23:04.880
And that's what I think is like the most ex that's the most exciting part about some of the these um these younger teams, these other teams, other than you know, the your your big dogs.
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In a game that it seems like it has to be all about the home run now, the Milwaukee Brewers tied for the second fewest home runs in all of baseball as a team.
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They had the highest ground ball rate as a team.
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And this is what I think is really interesting, the highest opposite field rate of any team.
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What do you make of that?
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It's it's obviously putting the ball in play, but when everyone's trying to hit for more power, they're hitting more ground balls and going the opposite way than anybody.
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What do you make of that?
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I think that's their personnel on who they brought in.
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I think they the thing that I really enjoy about the Brewers is they put guys in situations to succeed.
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And, you know, they do what everybody else does.
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They do platoons, they do different lineups based on who's pitching that day, all this kind of stuff.
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They'll they'll pinch hit, they'll do all these different kinds of things.
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But I don't think they go in and they're like, hey, we got you and we've developed you.
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We want you to change.
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We want you to all of a sudden become, you know, you know, they're not gonna go and ask Garrett Mitchell, who is one of the fastest people in Major League Baseball.
00:24:12.960 --> 00:24:19.359
They're like, hey, we want you to hit the ball in the air more because, you know, you'll and we're gonna want you to hit it pull side in the air, and that's it.
00:24:19.519 --> 00:24:23.759
Like, Garrett Mitchell can hit a ball over the Schwarztop's head and probably have a triple.
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Like if it gets past the outfielders, it's gonna be a triple.
00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:31.359
Like you don't need to hit a home run because you can do it with your legs.
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You know, you look at a guy like Sal Freelick, he's gonna, he's gonna bunt, he's gonna move the runner, he's gonna do all these kind of things.
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And, you know, we played against Sal quite a bit with the jumbo shrimp, and we saw how dangerous he was as a leadoff hitter, is like if he got on, it was almost an automatic triple.
00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:46.960
You know, he'd steal second.
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Oh, you know, uh booted ball, you know, pass ball, you know, he'll steal third, whatever it is, he's gonna get the third.
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And so you build a team around guys like that.
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You got, you know, Wilson Contreras, you have a Jake Bowers, you have a Jackson Churio, you have, I'm trying to think, you have a leader like Christian Yelich in that clubhouse.
00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:09.920
I mean, to back it up, of course, their pitching side.
00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:11.359
I'm I'm an offensive guy.
00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:17.440
I I look at lineups more than I do pitching, but um you have all those guys in that lineup.
00:25:17.599 --> 00:25:19.599
Like you can mix and match and do so many different things.
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And you've got that young guys, you've got Pratt, and I'm leaving out probably their most talented player, but Bryce Tarang.
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I was gonna say that guy's unbelievable.
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I he's unbelievable.
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And so you mix and match all that together, and now all of a sudden you have a championship team.
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Yeah, and you have the team that can win, not just you know, win because of the long ball.
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You have a team that doesn't have any quit, has the emotion, has the drive, and can win.
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Of that position player group, by the way, they had one all-star.
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Of the pitcher group, they had one all-star is Mizorowski.
00:25:53.279 --> 00:25:53.839
Yeah, that's great.
00:25:54.240 --> 00:25:58.240
Chris Tina won uh 103 games in the regular season.
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Two all-stars.
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Let me tell you, that's that is what and I love that the fans can vote for all-stars, and I love that it kind of goes into it a little bit.
00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:12.480
But you play on a small market team, you're gonna get small market votes.
00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:15.839
You play on a big team, there's gonna be more people voting.
00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:20.880
Like that's also the downfall of the all-star voting, I would say.
00:26:21.519 --> 00:26:26.640
And kind of like I talked about with the Yankees, uh, Aaron Judge, I think, is the best hitter in the world.
00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:29.599
Um obviously he's not healthy right now.
00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:33.680
Hopefully, if they if they advance, they have a pretty big mountain to climb over the Rays.
00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:37.519
Hopefully, if they advance, he's back for the ALCS.
00:26:38.559 --> 00:26:45.599
The Brewer, but the Yankees have so many weaknesses outside of Aaron Judge, right?
00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:50.240
Like they are struggling to score a run against the Tampa Bay Rays right now.
00:26:50.799 --> 00:26:52.640
The Brewers have no weaknesses.
00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:57.200
Andrew Vaughn is coming off the bench, he was worth a win and a half.
00:26:57.359 --> 00:27:02.160
Uh Joey Ortiz is kind of like uh a starter some of the time.
00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:04.400
He was worth two and a half wins, according to the bigger.
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He is a defensive, he is a defensive wizard.
00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:08.240
Yeah.
00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:12.000
David Hamilton is like a really solid bench player.
00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:16.000
Cooper Pratt is a rookie who had a really nice rookie year.
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But if those are your weakest players, they just don't have like you said, one through nine.
00:27:21.279 --> 00:27:28.400
Okay, they're not gonna, they don't have a ton of guys who are gonna hit the ball 480 feet, but they just they're relentless.
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There is no easy out there.
00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:30.960
It's it's amazing.
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And you want to talk about their back end guys, they have a couple guys in the bullpen that are that are unbelievable.
00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:43.680
Yeah, but the crazy part is you get a lead and McGill is gonna come in.
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I'd put McGill up there with with Mason Miller, I'd put McGill up there with Brian Baker.
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I would do all this kind of stuff.
00:27:50.079 --> 00:27:59.440
I mean, he truly is the rock of that team because yeah, you can start with Mizerowski and he can go eight and all this kind of stuff, but you know, they put up one run.
00:27:59.599 --> 00:28:01.519
You bring in McGill, it's over.
00:28:01.680 --> 00:28:02.319
Game's over.
00:28:02.559 --> 00:28:04.319
He yes, he is truly unbelievable.
00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:06.559
He's up there with some of the best closers.
00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:12.240
Aaron Ashby's nasty rebay is is ridiculous.
00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:16.160
We've seen your ebay a lot, yes, yeah, in the gumbo shrimp world.
00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:18.640
And Ashby actually, I remember when Ashby was a starter.
00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:21.039
He was like 96 with that crazy sinker.
00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:30.240
I remember when he was a starter, now he's like kind of their mid, mid-long guy, mid couple got a couple innings, and he'll you know, he'll throw that 199-mile-hour sinker.
00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:35.599
Chad Patrick is a nice long guy, chance and junk's buddy who does who loves hot dogs.
00:28:35.920 --> 00:28:40.000
Um yeah, uh, I just that team is amazing.
00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:40.720
They're amazing.
00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:44.319
As we talked about with Rob Sistrizny in January, it's like they just did it again.
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:47.279
They did it again, and they did it better than ever.
00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:51.440
Um I am rooting, I I do I would love to see the Brewers win.
00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:52.640
They've never won.
00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:59.359
The team that I want to see the most, I think, would be Cleveland, because they haven't won since 1948.
00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:03.119
It's a great fan base, they've come so close so many times.
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:05.839
97, 2016.
00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:08.480
They were like literally right there.
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:11.599
Um San Diego.
00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:14.400
The Brewers it and you never know, right?
00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:16.240
These windows, you you really do never know.
00:29:16.400 --> 00:29:20.880
Like we it seems like the window is open right now for the next couple years minimum.
00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:24.160
You just don't know how these things can go.
00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:32.240
But San Diego has put so much into the bucket, they've run these crazy high payrolls that teams at their market level never do.
00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:42.799
And they've got guys who are a little bit older now: Machado and Bogartz and Cronenworth, like these guys on big contracts that probably are not going to age well, and that's the bet that they made.
00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:44.720
Um, and it was probably a good bet, right?
00:29:44.799 --> 00:29:47.279
Like they've they've come really close themselves.
00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:52.960
I you almost wonder like how much longer realistically do they have?
00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:54.400
Their fan base is awesome.
00:29:54.480 --> 00:29:56.480
The ballpark looks incredible.
00:29:56.799 --> 00:29:59.039
I would love to see San Diego win it all this year.
00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:04.880
Because I I just I feel like the Brewers had the the the window open a little bit longer than the Padres do.
00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:14.160
And the Padres have have changed what it means to be a small market team because they they put money into that team that nobody ever does at that level.
00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:15.119
And I don't know.
00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:17.759
I just feel like the fans have responded in the way and they deserve it.
00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:19.440
I would love for the Padres to win.
00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:20.880
That is a bold statement.
00:30:20.960 --> 00:30:22.160
I didn't even think about it that way.
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:24.240
Yeah, I I agree with you.
00:30:24.319 --> 00:30:25.680
I'm not gonna agree with that.
00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:34.400
I want the Padres to win because they're in the same division as us, but I I understand what you're saying, and I never thought about it that way.
00:30:35.119 --> 00:30:35.920
That's exciting, yeah.
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:41.119
That's that's just a neutral person who doesn't work for the Colorado Rockies.
00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:41.920
I can say that.
00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:44.960
That's awesome.
00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:47.519
So here's what here's my question, and this is what I wanted to start with.
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You know, we're talking about the playoffs and we're talking about you know, all these different big league teams.
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You know, the Jacksonville jumbo shrimp just came off a national championship last year.
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And it was funny because they were showing the highlights of it when, you know, I think the AAA national championship was going on, and they were showing highlights of Jacob Barry hitting, you know, the walk-off home run to win the World Series.
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Who I, you know, that that is just unbelievable.
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But what do you see for the jumbo shrimp coming up here?
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We like give me a little recap of the year this year, and then show me a little bit like what maybe the future looks like and what guys they got coming up that maybe are interesting.
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Yeah, I mean, as you know, the the the barometer at this level, they love to win, but ultimately, like, are the players going up and contributing to the big league team?
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And it would be really difficult to argue that they're not if you're a Miami Marlins fan.
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Like, I think that people should be really thrilled what they've done the last few years with all these guys who have played here who have gone on to the big leagues and really contributed in a meaningful way, is really cool, I think, for our fan base to see, uh, for me to see as people who know these guys personally.
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So I think for one, I would say, despite the fact this team actually, believe it or not, finished beneath 500, they were at one time 15 games over 500, and then it just from July 4th, they got swept into double header by Nashville, and it just was a downward slope from that point.
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Um, and there's probably a few reasons for that.
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That part of the is you're losing your good players to the big leagues, that's how it goes.
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But I think that if you follow this team, we were incredibly young.
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That's a great sign, you know.
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The Marlins continue to make these shrewd trades, they they continue to add really interesting pieces.
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So a ton of those guys this year, they they're drafting really well.
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We had a couple guys drafted literally last year who were in triple A this year, playing a ton.
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Um, I don't know.
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I I think it's a it's a good time.
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The the success wasn't what it was last year when you were here, Troy.
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That's what we probably need.
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Some good veteran leadership, but the the talent level is really good.
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You know, that's that's a tough thing to say, a veteran in triple A.
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I know I know you guys don't want to be here, but the I think that you need veterans to I don't think oh go ahead.
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I'm sorry to say that like this is how we do this.
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Yeah, this is not acceptable, and I don't think we had that this year.
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Yeah, that makes sense.
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And I wonder if that's how baseball is kind of moving a little bit too, because I mean teams are getting younger and younger, and you even see it in the big leagues, like teams are getting younger and younger.
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But you are right, we had a lot of older guys, some guys that were repeating triple A quite a bit, like on that team.
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And then the guys that were brand new to AAA, they stepped in and they did really well right away, too.
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And it was like it was like I think about that 2025 team.
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And yeah, you're right.
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There was the perfect mix of like younger guys, older guys, different things like that, that really made the team who they are.
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Um that's an interesting rate.
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Yep.
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Albert Almora, John Rooney, Austin Roberts, yourself, like these personalities who knew how to do it the right way.
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Yes.
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And um, I think that makes an a difference.
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I'm not saying that like your triple-A team should be like Winnet, where it's a lot of older guys.
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I don't think that is good for the Marlins.
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I think that's good for the Braves.
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I don't think that's good for the Marlins, but I do think you need that veteran leadership to teach the younger guys for the first time.
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Yes, I 100% agree.
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So, what does that look like for the future?
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Like, do you have any like thoughts on what that looks like for the future of the Jumbo Church?
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I think I think it's gonna be very similar.
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I think we're gonna be really young.
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We're like the youngest triple A team.
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We're very close to it.
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Hey Tatum, uh every single every single year.
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And I just think that's gonna continue.
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Like we're seeing 2025 draft picks playing with Jacksonville in 2026.
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That's a sign that the Marlins believe in those guys.
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They've earned it, like the guys that we had were really interesting pieces.
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But we're really young, and the Marlins seem to be a lot bolder about promoting people, probably a little bit too late in your case, as you deserved it way before you did.
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But um, yeah, I think that the uh I just think we're gonna be young, and I think that the talent level is gonna be high.
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Will that mean wins?
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Not necessarily.
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I think there's an adjustment period with that at this level.
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I think that makes sense because I mean you really think about it, and it's honestly, it is, you know, triple A is that part where like guys develop and guys learn, and you know, you learn different ways to succeed.
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And the most important part, which I think nobody talks about, is when you're in AAA and you're in double A and you're not quite in the big leagues, you have to learn how to fail.
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There's a lot of guys that like never have failed in their entire life, and then they go fail in the big leagues.
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And good luck trying to fail in the big leagues when you have all this pressure, you know, it's a bigger stage, you have all these different things going on, and you have a little bit of failure in the big leagues, and it's like your world is ending.
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Oh, I'm gonna get sent down, I'm gonna, you know, I'm never gonna make it to the big leagues again, I'm never gonna do all this.
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Where it's like, yeah, maybe that is true for some guys that this is their one shot.
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But on the flip side, if you learn how to fail and you learn how to cope with it, your your failures are gonna be smaller and smaller each time.
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They're gonna they're gonna be shorter.
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You're gonna learn how to do that.
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And that's kind of what the minor leagues is about.
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Like, you know, it's learning how to fail and learning how to succeed and learning how to get out of that.
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And so, like you talk about maybe some guys that had tough years in AAA.
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The best part about it is they're probably going to have success later on because they learned how to fail and they learned how to cope with it.
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And now maybe this next year, you know, maybe their slumps are a little smaller, maybe they're they're shorter, maybe they they fix something in their swing, and now all of a sudden now whatever was hindering them the year before is now gonna come back and you know they're gonna jumpstart their whole career again, do something else.
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So, like it's very cool what AAA actually really does have to offer and what the fans get to experience in Jacksonville every day.
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All right, you gotta go be a dad.
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Okay.
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It was uh it was a lot of fun to catch up.
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Congrats on the move.
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You guys have a cool vacation ahead, and uh, we'll work around that when you guys get back for our next episode.
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Yes, thanks, Scott.
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I had so much fun.
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Appreciate you.
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