EPS 015 Diddy Will Testify, Beyonce is Demonic

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Hey, beautiful people. All the truth talks, but we attempt
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to bridge the gap between generations with conversations that are
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all over the place. I swear we giving you enough
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to argue about you will not be disappointment today. We're
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trying to break down you know why Trump's trying to
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free Diddy? Why passed Jamal Bryant's calling out Cardi b
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And if the word demonic is just being used too
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freely these days, why are we just throwing it around everywhere?
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You know a lot of people would say, Dmitri, thank
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you for a place in Tororey, because you've done such
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a better job. But I'll let Torrey tell you himself.
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Let me go find him who talk starts now? Are
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y all ready to row? Let y'all wow to beet you?
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That was amazing?
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Or somebody who's working in their second language. I applaud you,
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good fond you, good job. How welcome truth tellers. We
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got a lot to impact tonight, from the Dinny trial
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to where you sped your money, to whether or not
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you should be tithing because is everything demonic nowadays? Please
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welcome my co host, doctor Cheyenne Bryant.
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Damn, I thought she was gonna be on mute this
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whole episode or not here when I saw Themitri do
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the intro.
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But unfortunately, True Tellers.
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We're stuck.
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What my brother's for ready again? Anyw Yeah, we got
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some good hot topics and uh yeah, I just have
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to let me go.
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I need some time of process effect that I got
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to deal with him for a whole other episode.
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I'll be back, I'll be back.
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I am happy to see Reva Martin here. How are you,
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my sister.
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I am fantastic having a fantastic time hanging out with
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the Truth Tellers.
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Mmmm.
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And I called his mom to make sure it was
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okay he could stay with us for the whole hour,
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to make sure.
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It is a pleasure to be a happy Friday.
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Got out of your babysitting duties, so now you're free
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for a little while. Thank God for that. All right,
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let's get into trended true story number one. Donald Trump
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was asked if he would consider pardoning Diddy, who faces
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federal racketeering and sex trafficking charges. He's still on trial
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right now, so it's probably a little early to even
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ask this question, but of course people are asking the question.
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Trump did not commit to a pardon, but he said
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he would think about it. Take a listen.
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You mentioned once in twenty twelve and Diddy was a
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good friend of yours.
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In fact, then he has since found himself in some
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very serious legal trouble. Would you ever consider pardoning him?
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I know people are thinking about it. I know they're
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thinking about it. I think some people have been very
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close to asking. First of all, i'd look at what's happening,
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and I haven't been watching it too closely, although it's
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certainly getting a lot.
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Of coverage, so I don't know. I would certainly look
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at the.
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Faction trials so long agoing so it's a little early
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to be talking about a pardon. He might be acquitted.
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We nobody knows, so there's a lot of ifs here.
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But if someone is convicted in a case like this
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and then pardoned, what does that say about the justice system?
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When the president is able to pardon people not because
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he's articulating something happened wrong here, but because I like
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that person or they gave me a million.
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Dollars, Well we know, to ray, when the pardon comes
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from this president, it says a lot about the corruption
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in our government, and to be clear. You can be
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pardoned midway through a trial. You can be pardoned after
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you've been indicted. So the president, if he wants to,
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he doesn't have to wait until the jury comes back
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with a verdict. He could call up the Department of
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Justice and tell them to drop the charges against Diddy,
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or he could issue a presumptive pardons. Let's be clear
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about that.
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Next.
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This makes my stomach turn when you think about Donald
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Trump and the pardons that he's done since he's been
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in office this term and his former term. He is
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number three on the list in terms of the number
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of partons that have been issued. And as you said,
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not for people who served excessive time, say for low
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level drug offenses, or people who are caught up in
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our criminal justice system and are serving excessive time because
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they're black or brown. But his pardons primarily are for
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his friends, for his political allies.
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We saw that with.
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The fifteen hundred insurrectionists that he pardoned pretty much on
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day one of his second term. So when you think
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about the people that Donald Trump partons, even the Chris Lies,
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the reality show folks, they defrauded banks out of thirty
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six million dollars, and they are walking away after serving
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just a fraction of their time. Meanwhile, you and I
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and everyone on this show and all of our audience
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know that there are black folks serving life stealing a
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pack of gum. So these pardons aren't justice in this case.
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The christlies is white privilege, and in the case of Diddy,
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it would be demoralizing to the Department of Justice and
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to our jury system as a whole.
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Yeah, demeans. We've seen NBA, Young Boy and Kodak Black
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and Larry Hoover pardoned by this president, but maybe Diddy
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will happen. But like, yeah, it seems it seems if
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it's strange to have somebody saying I'm gonna do pardon
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people because I like them, not because there's a mistake
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in the system, not because something went wrong and we
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can deal with that, but because I like that individual.
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Like that seems like a strange way to run a country.
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But you know, you got to ask yourself. Is he
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saying I'm going to pardon them because I like them,
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or is he saying I'm going to pardon them because
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you like them? The idea that you you like me,
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if I set your people free, I'm giving you what
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you want, right, Ain't that when I'm doing criminals love
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to he criminals. After this, we're going to see if
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the next president pardons Donald Trump because his ass needs
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to be got locked up. That's how I see it, Jesus, Doc.
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Diddy would be pardoned because he would be exactly a
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political ally. Trump doesn't do anything without strategy, without an
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end result. He works backwards. He sees the end and
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he starts to work from there. And so when he
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says I'm partnering this person because I like him, it's
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because they can benefit me. I can benefit from them.
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And so we all know that like Republicans do, which
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I don't blame him for this, they strategize.
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I do believe that he is looking at a strategy.
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And even if puff Daddy is, Diddy isn't a political
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ally today in twenty twenty five, you got to remember
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how quick people forget things.
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People are still playing R.
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Kelly's music all on the radio in their home, and
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so you know, in twenty twenty eight, I think Diddy
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could be a really big ally for Trump if he
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gets out twenty twenty five and has two three years
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to redeem himself.
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Absolutely, And I also want to add this.
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I think Diddy's his team would be absolutely stupid to
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not at least ask to see if why would they
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not inquire for Trump to do it? Who I mean,
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if I was represent him, that'd be the first thing
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I try to do, is can you partner and try
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to make some type of negotiation with Trump?
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I mean, there's absolutely a chance that Trump might pardon him.
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I don't think he really cares or even understands the law.
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I don't think he cares or understands the danger that
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this person could represent to the community. You know, we
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are already talking allegedly about arson, extortion, bribery, throwing somebody
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off of a balcony, beating up a woman multiple times,
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which we've actually seen, so we get. I mean, like,
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this is a violent person, and like Cassie and Jane
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and many other people would be in significant danger, would
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feel themselves in significant danger if this person were pardoned.
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I would feel myself in danger if this person were pardoned.
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But I don't think Trump would even think about any
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of that arriva. I think he governs and handles this
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sort of thing entirely selfishly. How does this relate to me?
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What does this have to do for me without thinking
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about how it relates to other people.
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We should all be in fear to ray because of
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the insurrectionists, the Proud Boys, white supremacists who were pardoned
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by Donald Trump, including individuals that were responsible for the
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depths of police officers. Trump, as you just said, doesn't care.
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And let's talk about money. A couple of the people
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that were pardoned recently by Donald Trump. We know that
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one of the individuals again in charge, was charged and
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convicted of fraud defrauding the government out of payroll taxes
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for employees. His mother donated a million dollars to the
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Trump campaign. The daughter of the Chrislies was very big
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in the RNC during the campaign for Donald Trump, spoke
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at the Republican National Convention, led a group of women
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for Trump. So we cannot forget the monetary role that
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is so prevalent in a lot of these parts because
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Trump directly the party are and see the Republican Party
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benefiting monetarily. So it is paid for play. The White
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House is open. And if you got a million dollars
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to donate to the campaign and you want someone out
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of jail, you better donate that million.
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Dollars and put your application in it, because.
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Unlike times we've ever seen before, this government is selling
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those partons.
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That's one hundred percent right. If you have a million dollars,
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you can get anybody out of prison. And that's a
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kind of a disgusting way to run a government and
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a Bureau of Prisons. That has nothing to do with
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fairness or equality. That has to do with the privatization
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of the White House, the selling of the White House,
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the Trump way of monetizing the presidency, which is completely
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not democratic and what we're supposed to do. And of
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course black people are going to lose out in that
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exchange all the time. Let's move on to our second
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story in our trending topics, Target has lost billions because
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of the Black community boycotting Target. Congratulations and good on y'all.
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Y'all have made a difference. But in the words of
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the Great Kendrick Lamar, it's not enough. Pastor Jamal Bryant
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took to Instagram to call out Carti b after she
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posted a picture of herself shopping at Tar Jay with
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her children. He reminded Carti she's got to support the boycott.
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She's part of the community, Dmitri, does the pastor have
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a point?
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I mean yes, I mean I have to give it
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to him. I'm with him when he right. I mean
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the time is now to take a stand. And I
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feel like with Cardi B being as influential as she is,
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this is a big deal, bigger than She's not just
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your average joke. This is not just the lady walking
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the street. This is someone who impacts millions by random
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things she posts. Even if you're gonna do it, why
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you gotta why you gotta post the car? You letting
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me down?
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No, doctor, He's totally right that even if she's snuck
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into Target on her own, but like taking a picture
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really thumbs her nose at the boycott that tons and
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tons of black people are participating about talking about online.
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Everybody knows about it. So why she's going against it
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when she's usually like down with the community the things
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that we're trying to do. I don't understand what she's doing.
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Yes, that's exactly what I was going to say, is
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that I'm surprised by Parti because Carti is not only
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supportive in our community, but Carti has got on social media,
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on social media, live and on her page and posted
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a lot of her political political views on things, and
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you know, to a lot of people surprised at least
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minds when I first heard her talk. She's pretty politically savvy,
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like she knows some of herself when she's speaking on
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behalf of certain policies and even on certain things that
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Trump was doing during the election, and so to see
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her do that is surprising. But I want to push
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back on what Dmiti said because I felt like, if
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she's going to do it, she shouldn't just do it
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and hide her hands. If she's going to support how
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about don't do it at all and just understand that,
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you know, we do have to have celebrities and people
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who have big platforms use their platform for more than
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just monetizing for their own personal gain. There is a
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community out there that depends on you, that's watching you,
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and of course you decide not to You're not just
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you know some you know, we don't want to what
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demonize you, but we would life for you to be
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a part of our you know, community call of actions
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by using your platforms and your voice to help us
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push these calls because we do need you. But I
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want to end on this we know that using entertainment
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as Kamala did when she ran for office, obviously doesn't
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win votes, and it obviously doesn't win us over because
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we weren't able to get.
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Her in office.
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But what it can do is it can talk and
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be a voice to a culture that is listening and
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that is watching what these celebrities do.
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But really is that the case, doctor b Because we
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saw every celebrity possible come out for Kamala Harris during
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that election last year, and now they are experiencing backlash
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in social media. A lot of them are being blamed
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for why the Democrats lost the election. So on one hand,
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we're saying, celebrities, use your platform, be a voice, speak out,
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get involved in politics. And then when they did it
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at the highest level, from Oprah to Beyonce to just
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about every eight listen you can name in Hollywood, the
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people spoke and the people said, celebrities, go drill basketball,
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go sing a.
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Song, go bang a band.
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A lot to suggest that Kamala's loss, which is offered
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by many many many things, misogyny, racism, the very tiny
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amount of time she had, the law, the change and
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strategy from her early days, which is very successful to
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what she started doing after two months in and there's
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a lot of reasons why this didn't work out. It's
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very hard to blame this on Well, you had celebrities
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that didn't work out, so celebrities don't it's yes.
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Got it.
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So again, my theory is the way that she went about.
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It, which is using entertainment, using sexy, read, using wrap,
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using a narrative that is negative in our community. From
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my experience as a taxpayer, a voter, and a Democrat,
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it did not work. So what I said was using
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celebrities to push policies and campaigns.
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As far as elections has shown, from my opinion, it
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does not work. Having them on their platforms.
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As influencers giving out a narrative or a call of action.
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It tends to work in our community when we're saying, hey,
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don't go to a target, Hey go buy this shirt,
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hey go read this book.
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When it goes to those call of actions, it works.
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Let me tell you why I believe.
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That is exactly why I had a problem with commonly
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using entertainment and using sexy as in using only these
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folks to get our attention, because we are a community
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of people that are not as educated on policy in legislation.
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As we sh there may be the group of us
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on here on two talks who are educated on that,
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who sit around and have these conversations with our colleagues,
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our friends, and our families. But majority of the culture
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are not talking about running for office, or talking about
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their local officials, or talking about Assembly or Congress, our
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Supreme Court.
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They're not having that conversation. So again, if we're going
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to be talking to our people.
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About politics and legislation, we first have to educate them
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so they know what running for office looks like. It's
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not an entertainment thing. It's policies. Legislation is who is
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going to help you, your community, your house sold collectively
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get to a place of a better quality of life.
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And that's not what I see.
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That's not the campaign that I've seen that I contributed
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to and that I support it.
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I'm allowed to have my idea.
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You're critical of Kamala last season. What role do you
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think that celebrities should be playing in Boycott's Like do
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black celebrities need to be like blockstep with everything? I mean, like,
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can she not have her own opinion?
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So I don't think black celebrities just have a respe
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fonsibility to be a community leader.
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Some of them want to be actors and rappers, and
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that's just what they want to be, and that's okay
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if that's their choice. I believe that whatever platform you have,
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we as people have a responsibility to even if it's
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our local community, whether it's our neighborhood or household, our
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local organizations, to do something that benefits at least us.
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As a culture, us as a group of people.
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So again, I don't want to put it on them
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like they have to, because people have a free will,
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they have the freedom to do what they choose. What
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I would like to say is I offer that they
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use their platform to align with some of our call
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of actions, to align with some of our issues, like
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a pastor Jamal Bryant, and support what we're doing, because.
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Who do you think supports them? How do you think
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they became platform, How do you think they became a celebrity.
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How do you think that they're being paid. We are
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the biggest consumers.
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So we're keeping their album alive, We're keeping their movie alive,
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We're keeping their merch alive, We're keeping their product alive.
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Because we have black people spend the most money on
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their products, So I just think it would be nice
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for us.
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To have their support given back.
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It's not just that it'll be nice. I think we
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ain't one of the biggest attack on blacks and brown
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culture in recent history, Like by far, we need every
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single celebrity we can get to be on one band
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one sound like I do understand what you're saying, doctor Brian.
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There is celebrities who just want to be actors and
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rappers and singers. But the thing about it is, you
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do understand you have influence. And I wasn't saying Cardi
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b should go, you know, hide her hand to any degree,
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but do not use the influence to go against everything
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we're fighting for. At least don't use it to go
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against everything. And that's all I'm saying.
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See, I don't want them to go against what we're doing.
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But I think the notion that we need or should
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have celebrities to forward political messages is completely misunderstanding the
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whole situation.
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I don't think it's about forwarding political messages. This is
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about creating reform for black people black culture. Like this
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whole target thing was to push against people who don't
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support us. This was a yeah to me, it's not.
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It's less political and more cultural change. For me.
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I don't think we need I don't think the problem
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is whether or not celebrities who we know for singing, rapping,
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acting are carrying the message. We have political leaders and
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activists who can speak to our political needs, and we
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should be leaning more on them rather than hearing about
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celebrities and what they have to say.
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Now, I totally disagree with you Jury, and I disagree
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with what doctor B said.
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First of all, with.
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Respector karma hare, she had one hundred and seven days. People,
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we got to remember that she had to capture the
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attention of the entire country to try to put forth
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a winning campaign in one hundred and seven days, never
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been done before. And she didn't create this society where
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we live in, where we revere actors and entertainers. She
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inherited that we all inherited that. So we live in
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a culture where if you're trying to get the attention
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of people, particularly black people, you can do that a
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lot faster and a lot more effectively when you do
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it through influencers, messengers, and those influencers, the bigger influencers
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in our community happen to be entertainers, they happen to
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be rap stars, they happen to be sports figures. So
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we use what we have. So I think we can
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do both things. You can have politicians pushing a message.
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You can have pastors like doctor Jamal Brian pushing a message.
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But absolutely we should call on our celebrities, those that
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we have made big, those who we.
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Have poured our hard earned.
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Money into to get them where they are.
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We have every right to ask them to show up
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for us and to support causes that are going to
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lift up everyday people, poor people, working people, mothers and
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single parents. Yes, we should be calling on them, and
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shame on Cardi b I love her, I love her musically,
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I love what she usually stands for, but I think
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this was a big misstep on her part by posting
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that picture.
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Yes, and I just want to say, hear you, sis,
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but obviously push back. I think that our political leaders
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need to have more respect for our community.
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They need to understand that we are not just entertainment.
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We are not just athletes, that we are educated, that
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we are doctors, attorneys, community leaders, elected officials, commissioners, mothers,
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and all those things that we can handle talking about policy.
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We can handle talking about legislation. We can handle having
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real conversations at the table. You don't have to commingle
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somebody who's popping their ass on the stage. You don't
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have to commingo somebody who's rapping to get our attention.
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We should be a community of people that don't always
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have to have entertainment in order for them to get
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our attention. We should be able to be at the
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table having conversations about what politics is about. It's about legislation,
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policy and leadership and who is going to lead us,
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not who is going to entertain us. What we have
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in office right now is a Hollywood entertainer, and this
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is exactly why we have a curcha is because he's
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doing more entertaining and making money than he is serving us.
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This is why I push back on the fact that
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we have to understand as a people, there's a time
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to be entertained, but there's a time to have a
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real conversation that has to do with policy leadership, and
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it does not have to do with a dropping it
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like it's hot, a rap video or some big production.
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For our people to be gathered and mobilized to the
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table totally.
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You're doing is you're getting.
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Into the particulars of who that entertainer is. Like You're
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making references to people popping their butts, torking, or whatever,
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So you're going into the quality of the entertainer. Maybe
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you didn't like Sexy Red or someone else that was
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on the campaign.
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But the reality is, you look at cable news stations.
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You look at the number of black folks that are
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watching cable news and other stations that are related just
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to are dedicated just to politics. They those numbers payal
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in comparison to the numbers of folks who are watching
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entertainment related shows. You can't deny that. So the reality
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is entertainment is huge in our community.
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I mean, of course, entertainment is huge, But if we
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don't have entertainers who can effectively explain and articulate the
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political issues, then a whole conversation is lost. They go
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back to Colin Kaepernick, who had a beautiful and powerful
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physical protest on the sidelines, and then we go in
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the locker room and try to ask him to talk
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about these issues, and he is not the most articulate
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talker on these issues, and it lost some of the
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power of his protests that he couldn't explain it. And
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that's something that pastor Jamal Bryant or other activists are
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better at than some of our entertainers. Let's move on
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to our politic gig segment, which is kind of heartbreaking
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has been typically usually Trump and Steven Miller are back
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on the Travel Band bullshit. There. Recent band has affected
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a large population from Haiti that will stall or cancel
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all kinds of life safety procedures for at least a
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dozen kids or young adults. The band goes into effect Monday,
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offering exceptions for those who are lawful, permanent residents or
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traveling for the World Cup or the Olympics. But there's
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people who have serious medical necessities that may be coming
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here looking for open heart surgery or things that can
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save their lives or change their lives and make their
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lives much better. Their children diagnosed with rheumat rheumatic heart
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disease that need help, and the Travel Band is affecting
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their life. There's a large population of Haitian folks in
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Massachusetts that this is affecting. Let's take a look at that.
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Video directed to push more than a half million Haitians
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out of the United States in less than six months
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is being called unrealistic and unfair by Jeff Fielman with
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the International Institute of New England.
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You will see communities ripped the part.
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You will see families ripped the part.
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They followed legal pathways to get here. They did everything
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that they were supposed to do.
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The Department of Homeland Security says about fifty seven thousand
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Haitians registered for temporary protected status following a devastating seven
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point zero magnitude earthquake in twenty ten. That status was
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renewed under the Biden administration in twenty twenty one amid
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civil unrest after the assassination of Hades President.
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Since we'll have disastrous consequences for them.
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These are people that have been here some since twenty ten.
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in the US.
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Under the Biden administration, Haiti's temporary protected status was extended
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through February third, twenty twenty six, but protection from deportation
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and work permits are now set to end on August
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third of this year.
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They knew what it was when they came here on
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temporary It says right on it temporary, so they knew
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it was temporary, and the temporary is.
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Oliver Lewis Murray, chairman of Bostonians Against Sanctuary Cities, is
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applauding the Trump administration for following through on mass deportation
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promises and scaling back the use of temporary protected status.
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The Haitians have had a chance now since the twenty
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ten earthquake to kind of get their out together, and
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now we have a chance they can go back safely
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and rebuild their lives.
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America has a long history of turning Haitians away in
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the most dire human circumstances, really sad stories. If people
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are people have applied legally and received refuge, what right
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do we have to send them back? And how often
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are we actually sending people back really based on political
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motives rather than actual legal questions.
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Well toay, before Donald Trump be carrying the president, if
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you had if you were a legal resident of the
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United States, if you had migrated here and you had
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done everything required by you by law to become a residence,
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you didn't have anything to worry about. But all that
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change when we elected, we being the country, elected Donald
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Trump as president. And look when people show you who
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they are, believe them. And he showed us when he
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was running. He told us what he was going to
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do as it relays immigrants. And I guess what some
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of his voters are now saying is they didn't understand
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that he was going to trample on the constitutional rights
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of individuals here. He was going to totally disobey their
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due processed rights and basically decide to make the lives
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of black and brown immigrants in this country a living hell.
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He's always had a disdain for black and brown immigrants
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in a way that we don't see. He has towards
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like white South Africans, who he has embraced, who he's
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opened his arms to, who he has you know, applauded
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and brought them.
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Into this country. So this is the same.
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Old Trump Trump two point oh, racist Trump two point oh.
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The travel band is another just demonstration of his anti
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blackness and his sustain for people of color.
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To me true, he said it's okay, you can go
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back home and die. Imagine a policy ignoring the pulse
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of a dying child like and I hear you, miss Martin,
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I hear you when you say you know this country
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is currently saying I didn't understand what he meant and
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what he was going to know a lot of these
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motherfuckers understood a lot of these motherfuckers knew exactly what
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this meant, and they agree with it, and that was
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the that was the problem. A lot a lot of
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people knew. And now that this in effect, they just
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clapping behind closed doors. A lot of motherfuckers knew.
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And I think that's the problem, Doc, Yeah, I just
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think it's completely inhumane, completely inhumane.
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Again.
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You know, I'm the one who believes healthcare is a
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human right, mental health is.
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A human right.
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And then the dude who was in the video says,
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they've had enough time to go back to their country
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and get their lives together.
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That is the epitome of the white.
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Privilege, the white supremacy, the systemic racist mindset, the strong
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disconnect from anything outside of being white, the bubble they
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live in.
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You want these people.
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To go back to their country that is Third war world, underprivileged,
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under resource and dismantled to get their life together. Come on, buddy,
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you understand what's going on here. You don't want anything
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that looks different than you, that cannot benefit you from
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money or power being in what you believe is your country,
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not our country. That is a problem.
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That's okay, let me say I'm sorry.
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Let me say this to meet you. When I say
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some of these people are saying they didn't understand.
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What I'm speaking to is I've seen a large number
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of Latino voters expressing voters remorse. We know Trump won
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a greater percentage of Latino votes, particularly male votes, are
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than what anyone had anticipated. And now when you see
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these raids of predominantly Latino communities, I've seen folks on TV.
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Saying I didn't know, we didn't know.
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What they really meant was we thought it was going
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to happen to another community, not our community.
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They didn't care as well as it didn't hit home.
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But now that this is hitting home, folks are having
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They're being forced to wake up and to accept that
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which they have been in denial about since Trump has
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been a lot in Ariva.
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This is true talks.
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And so because you said they knew, they just believed
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and hoped it would happen to another community, because it's
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true talks, can you can you say loud and clear
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what community that they believed in, thought and hoped it
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would happen.
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To you and not this.
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I just want to hear it.
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I just bet you thought it would just be us.
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As long as it's going to be black folks, we
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are always we are always at the bottom. We are
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the ones that suffer the most. And then it is
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the Latino community. It's black and brown folks that suffer
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from these racist, oppressive policies. But you know a lot
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of folks, doctor b and you know this, everybody on
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this show knows. There's a lot of folks who are
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black and who are brown identify as white. They like
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that white proximity and they think by being white proximate
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that they are going to reap the benefits of white privilege.
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They're going to reap the benefits the protection that white
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people in this country gets. And then they get this
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root awakening when ice comes knocking on the doors of
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their friends, their neighbors.
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And then they have to realize, you know what I'm.
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Just isis jay Z said.
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Jay Z said it best aarriva. He said, after all that, still, nigga,
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go on, tore tag you it.
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I mean, you know the thing is that you know
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we have people coming here looking for medical help, and
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we're treating this way. And this country has been beacon
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for immigrants, political, medical, all sorts for a very long time.
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And to see this country turn recently and in recent
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years to say now we're going to be evil and
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mean to immigrants and get rid of them, that is
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the opposite of what America has been for a long time.
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Well tooray, if you're a white Africana, you can come
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here and say that you are in fear of your life,
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You're in fear of black South Africans killing you on
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your farm, and you can find refuge, you can find support,
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you can find solas, you can find a home, you
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can find resources.
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It's just if you are not white. So we got
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to be real clear.
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These immigration policies are not utilized, they're not applied, they
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are not executed on a race neutral basis. When you
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will get the thirteen or twelve or thirteen countries that
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are now the subject of a travel ban, seven or
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eight of those countries are black or ground countries.
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So this issue, this.
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Inhumanity, this evilness that we see around immigration, it does
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not impact all immigrants.
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To say it is.
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Our communities that are disproportionately impacted.
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By these inhumane policies.
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No, absolutely what we see out of the relationship, the
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relationship to the brown folks coming from the southern border
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and folks wanting to come from Africa who are not
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the white South Africans, Like, it's clear that there's a
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desire to whiten the country, get black and brown people
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out of the country, if possible, bring more white people
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into the country. Let's move on to segment three, real talk.
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Some people feel like everything is demonic right now, Like
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there's a growing outcry from Christians who are like it
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seems like everything is demoic and like we can't even understand,
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like where we can go. Like I went to the
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Cowboy Carter concert the other day in New Jersey. It
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was extraordinary, and there are folks who are saying that
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they rebuke me, that I was wrong as a Christian
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for going to such a thing. Let's listen, let's.
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Let the sister talk.
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Any of you that are going to Beyonce's concert, I
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rebuke you in the name of Jesus, because there was
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no And you know what rebuke is is a sharp
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disapproval of something that you're doing. It means that you're
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going against the standard of Christ that you're living in.
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Riva. Do you understand why the sister and others that
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she not alone, would think that Beyonce or just any
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of the major pop cultural things that we are all
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about nowadays that are demonic.
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Well, I understand that's what they've been taught. I understand
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that if you grow up in certain black churches, you
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have been taught that. I had a friend who told
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me the very same thing that she told her mom.
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She was going to the Cowboy Carter concert, and her
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mother told her that it was demonic and that Beyonce
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basically was the devil. And you know, I feel sorry
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for a lot of these Christians to rade because they've
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been brainwashed.
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They have been misled.
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They have been taught the Bible by people who themselves
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don't even understand the Bible, who cherry pick and take
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very literally certain verses from the Bible to fit their
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own narrative, to fit their own agenda, to fit their own,
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you know, ideology, without regard for the harm that it causes.
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So I can understand why this woman and others are
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scratching their heads. Then they don't know what to believe
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because they've been fed a bunch of disinformation and it's
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harmful to our community.
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To be true, I don't want to pile on Beyonce
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or Cowboy Carter, because folks, the folks we're talking about,
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are seeing demonic influence all over the place, right in
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all sorts of culture and all sorts of capitalism, what
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have you, all over America. So it's much more than Beyonce.
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But like, do you understand why folks are seeing demonic
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influence in all sorts of things?
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People look for patterns, Honestly, I think that's the nature
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of being the human. You look for patterns in what
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you see. Oh, I seen this thing here, and I've
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seen this hand sign here, and they use that over
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there as well, and we tied together in all actuality.
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I think it's a discomfort with power more than anything.
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I think people look at the influence that others actually have,
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like Beyonce and her ability to put fifty thousand peopeople
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in the stadium at one time, and be like, oh,
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this can't be God or dain because this is too powerful.
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In my opinion, whether it's a feminine nature or just
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a a business nature, anything to that degree is going
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to be labeled as the devil's work. But God gives
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love to God wants you to have things as well.
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And you know, bild is like so sweet and night like.
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Her whole thing is like I am mother, I am protector,
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I am lover like like I love you like.
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I don't know.
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I could see it, I could see the idea with
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other people better. But maybe I have no understanding. Because
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I went to Emery in Atlanta and there was a
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very robust and beautiful Black Greek scene. We got to
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know most of Thevine nine organizations on that campus and
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on the AUC campus as well, and I found these
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organizations to be really powerful, really inspiring, really interesting. And
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yet some folks in the community we're talking about are
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saying the Divine nine also has demonic things that are
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holding you back from your relationship with the Lord. Let's
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see the sister talk about wanting to leave or feeling
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a deed, feeling called to leave sororities so that she
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could be fully present for her marriage rollback.
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One of the other things was Delta, and he specifically said,
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I can't put you in covenant with your husband until
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you break the covenant with Delta.
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Yes, that's what you said, m h.
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And I didn't know what the Lord was talking about.
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I'm like, who in covenant with Delta? What is a covenant?
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What I got to do with my husband?
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I don't you, Lord?
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Are you speaking another language to me? But even though
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I didn't understand what the Lord was talking about, I
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knew I still have to be obedient and come out.
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I knew I understood that denounce.
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You understand why I didn't understand why.
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No, I had no idea why.
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Even when God was telling me the denounce, I said,
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but why, Like Delta has been nothing but good for me?
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Yeah, Ariba, do you understand why it would be a
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contradiction for some people to be in Delta Sigma Data
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or Alpha Kappa Alpha whatever and then also be married, Like,
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I don't see why that's the problem. And I know
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a lot of sisters who are married in akas and
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DSTs what have you and brothers afay q all the
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things Kappa shout out to those. I didn't mention, no shade,
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But I mean, like, I don't see the challenge.
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Absolutely absolutely not.
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What is the connection between a sorority or a fraternity
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and your love for your husband, your partner, your spouse
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or for.
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That matter, your belief in God.
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Again, Terrey, we cannot minimize the amount of brainwashing that
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goes on in churches around this country, not just black churches,
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but we're talking about black people today, so black churches
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and a lot of that, let's keep it a hundred,
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is done to manipulate people and to get them to tithe,
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to get them to give financial gifts, to get them
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to give money to the church, and to enhance the
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life and the lifestyle of a lot of these pastors
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who live better than some of the CEOs of Fortune
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five hundred companies. So we got to talk about money
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in religion and the role that it plays in the
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same way we are quick to criticize money in politics.
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Money in church is a real thing. And somebody making
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this woman feel like she can't be a delta and
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have her husband, and she herself is saying, I don't
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even really know what this is about. Well, I would
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say to this sister, please use your brain. You obviously
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went to college, You're obviously smart. Even if you didn't
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go to college, you're an intelligent woman. Use your own brain,
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do your own thing. Don't leave your brain at the
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door when you walk inside.
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A church. Don't let the pastor thinking be a substitute
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for your own thinking.
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Ask questions, and if you don't understand it, it probably
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don't make sense.
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We've seen two sisters talk about their side of this.
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The brothers are having some of the same thoughts around this.
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We got a fraternity brother destroying the things that mark
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him in the fraternity, which is a big deal if
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you're in the fraternity and the work you're to get
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into Fraturney's very hard because of Christianity.
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Let me see that clip.
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So today I am denouncing my green letter academic honor societies.
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So as you may know if you have been denouncing
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the Divine Nine organizations.
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And while I have my own personal opinions about them,
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not all negative, not all positive. However, through my personal prediction,
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as I'm going to my faith, even the more some things,
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I don't want to pleasure my life to you for eternity,
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it is not to Jesus Christ. And so whether that's
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a re letter organization, as a fraternity, sorority, freemason, whatever
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the case will be. Even academic, a lot of times
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we pledge and we'll make these oath and allegiances uh
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to other fraternity sororities, Freemasons, Eastern Stars, even academic our societies,
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or even public organizations like Jack and Jill. Things that
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nature without understanding the history and the.
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Why behind it.
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And so this is my.
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I can I say my denouncing video and so yeah,
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here I go about to shred.
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Hm doc.
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That was really hard for me to watch because I
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think that.
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What he did.
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I was close to several brothers who pledged Q and
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it takes a lot physically and mentally and emotionally to
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get into the organization. You don't just sign up and join.
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You are Hayes.
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You have pledged.
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You hate you went through that took a blood oath
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to see. And I understand Christianity is incredibly important to
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the brother, but damn.
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Yeah, this is where religion to me can get very dangerous.
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They're talking about things being demonic, right Beyoncey being a
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sober or fraternity, Divine nine and other things that they
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haven't listed.
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But I'd like to ask these folks, have you considered
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the pulpit, the bishop, the pastor Is.
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There anything demonic about them? Is there anything that they're
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feeding you that maybe you shouldn't be eating? Is there
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anything at church that you feel is not as holy
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as it's claiming to be. Maybe where the demonic messaging
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is coming from the root of it is where you
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need to check. Where at did you get this ideology
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that these things outside of the church that you're being
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fed from is demonic because a lot of times, and
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I've been in my field for seventeen years, seventeen eighteen years,
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and I've had many of mega church pastors who have
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been my clients. Of course, I'm never going to share
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names that are doing a lot of things that people
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would deem to be unpulpit like unpastor bishop like, there's
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bishops who are doing things that.
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People would deem demonic, like having a wife in a
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side check in the same city, in two different homes.
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So what I'm saying is that or to.
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Arriba's point, who are only at the pulpit because they
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know there is monetary benefit to it, who are actually
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spending the church money on their side check for vacations,
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who are actually spending.
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Their church money with the women who they are come
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gregrading with in the congregation. So we're gonna talk about
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what's demonic.
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We got to talk about the real essence of what's
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going on in the church where you're getting.
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This feeding from. And I always believe that what feeds
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our feasts is what we become. We are what we eat.
833
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And so if you're eating some of these demonic preachures,
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you're eating some of these scriptures that are like Aarva said,
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that are created and hand picked and selected just to
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compliment a narrative that that pastor that bishop wants to
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set out so that again his quality of life can
838
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be up kept. Then guess what you are being fed
839
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demonic scripture. You are being fed a spirit that has
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you thinking outside of.
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What is normal or possibly what is right. This is
842
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where people have to question, Hold on, do.
843
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I have a personal relationship with God that I can
844
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ask and say, hey, I have a question about scripture,
845
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I have a question about this religion, I have a
846
00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:53.639
question about my pastor Go to that. Build a relationship
847
00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:57.239
with self and your own God. Question everything around you
848
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and try to listen to self before you listen things
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that are external, because you end up a situation that you.
850
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May have to backpedal to that there is no backpedaling from.
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That's where religion scares me at because I'm going to.
852
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Wait a minute, pastors ambitious, we got to check in
853
00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:12.360
with y'all to see what's really going on here, because
854
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y'all are feeding a congregation and feeding a culture of
855
00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:17.800
people either don't believe in church no more, claiming church
856
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her don't believe in religion no more, or they're coming
857
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to you and you're totally fucking them up.
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Dmitri.
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Reference is how a lot of the messengers are foolshit.
860
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Yeah, I think that's exactly my point. Just to speak
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on me personally, my mother grew up in a church
862
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household where there was church in the basement.
863
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Like I don't know if you know you can actually
864
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:44.199
go back it was. Religion was heavy in my family,
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and it was forced upon her. She did not force
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it upon her children. The simple message my mama gave
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me was God is love.
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God is everywhere. You do not have to be confined
869
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or caged in order for God to see you and
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00:44:58.679 --> 00:45:01.960
be in your heart like him. Right now, doctor Brown,
871
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I've been around you for a long time and I've
872
00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:07.400
heard you say the word dogma a lot. Can you
873
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:10.039
please inform the audience of what that may mean.
874
00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:14.159
Absolutely, dogma is living in the thoughts and opinions of
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other people.
876
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Absolutely, And when I was in church. I saw church
877
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when I was homeless. I was homeless at the age
878
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of like twenty twenty one, maybe a little younger than that,
879
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but I was in church. This is the first thing
880
00:45:26.400 --> 00:45:28.119
I decided, I'm going to go to church for my own.
881
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My family never forced me to church. I went to
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church on my own. And it was in church that
883
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I realized deliverance becomes dogma when it silences self discovery,
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spiritual discovery. If I'm looking at him and saying, I
885
00:45:44.519 --> 00:45:46.679
gotta do what he telling me to do, because he's
886
00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:50.800
a blighting by this book, I'm failing to discover anything
887
00:45:50.880 --> 00:45:54.119
on my own. And I'm gonna say it one more
888
00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:56.880
time for you know, those who are listening and those
889
00:45:56.920 --> 00:46:00.440
who are on the same journey. Delivery becomes dogma when
890
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:03.239
its silences discovery. So get out there and figure it
891
00:46:03.239 --> 00:46:06.599
out for yourself before you start cutting things you work for,
892
00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:08.000
because it's like you said it to al Ray, it
893
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takes a lot to get into a fraternity and it
894
00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:12.800
means a ton to those people you're standing next to.
895
00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:18.239
So before you burn anything, shred anything, or throw anything
896
00:46:18.280 --> 00:46:21.039
out doing them, make sure you're doing the research for
897
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yourself or how you want to live.
898
00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:28.400
The bigger notion for me is why does Christianity have
899
00:46:28.559 --> 00:46:30.880
a choke hold on us as black people? And I
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00:46:31.039 --> 00:46:34.920
understand there are many black Muslim brothers and sisters in
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00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:38.000
this country, and there are some Jewish brothers and sisters
902
00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:41.239
that black in this country, but for the most part
903
00:46:41.400 --> 00:46:44.519
in America, we are Christian. And at a certain point
904
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you're like why, And I have an idea why, but
905
00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:50.000
I want to hear a little bit of doctor Umar
906
00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:51.400
talk about it before we get into why.
907
00:46:51.920 --> 00:46:55.440
Religious institutions take three things from Black people too much
908
00:46:55.559 --> 00:46:57.760
and too often that we can't afford to waste. One
909
00:46:57.840 --> 00:46:59.639
is our time. The church takes a lot of time.
910
00:46:59.719 --> 00:47:01.559
I know because I was raised in it. Number Two,
911
00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:04.239
you hope you got people believing that through this vehicle
912
00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:06.400
something is going to happen, and nothing of the shows.
913
00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:08.400
And the third and that is our money. Y'all take
914
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in donations and you're not doing nothing for the Black community.
915
00:47:11.559 --> 00:47:14.159
This money is needed for us to save ourselves. We
916
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:16.719
can't afford it to throw it into religious institutions who
917
00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:17.920
don't do nothing but pray.
918
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You know, aarriva when I think about the Black community
919
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and Christianity. We have to begin the conversation has to
920
00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:28.400
be in with slavery, right, and the way that Christianity
921
00:47:28.519 --> 00:47:32.639
was used to control Black people. And I think that
922
00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:37.199
we were acculturated to Christianity in America and it becomes
923
00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:40.679
part of our relationship with America and how we survive
924
00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:44.239
in America and how And there's for sure there's times
925
00:47:44.320 --> 00:47:48.280
when it uplifts us as individuals, as a community, doctor King,
926
00:47:48.840 --> 00:47:52.960
the civil rights movement hugely important. But it is a
927
00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:57.320
holdover from slavery, is it not. This is why we
928
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are as a community so enraptured and held by Christianity, no.
929
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Doubt about that.
930
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To ray.
931
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And not only are we in some ways held hostage
932
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to a lot of those messages that are hold over
933
00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:16.280
from slavery, from reconstruction to the Jim Crow era, but
934
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look at the patriarchy in religion. So you're asking a
935
00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:24.159
question about Christianity, and you know, should black folks remain
936
00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:27.079
as Christians? But I'm not seeing all of these other
937
00:48:27.360 --> 00:48:34.599
organized religions that recognize the equality of women. Most of
938
00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:38.719
the organized religions, if not all, have in common the
939
00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:42.199
oppression of women and So I've been asking myself as
940
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a Christian born, raised as a Catholic, go to a
941
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Methodist church, believe in God, had some of those same
942
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messages you're talking about, And I'm asking myself, why is
943
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Jesus a man? And why are the references in church
944
00:48:59.039 --> 00:49:01.679
male references? So we got to ask a man to
945
00:49:01.800 --> 00:49:04.599
deliver us, We got to ask a man to bless us,
946
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to give us grace?
947
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What about women and what messages that's sending.
948
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Two men, this man or the head of the household.
949
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So we talk about domestic violence, a lot of it
950
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starts by the messages men and women get in church.
951
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So I've been asking myself a lot of tough questions
952
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about my belief system and what the God is that
953
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I want to serve and have relationship with. And it
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is not a male figure.
955
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It's not a gender.
956
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It's not him.
957
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It's not his.
958
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No, that's very well said Dmitri. We are we as
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black people too tied to Christianity. And this is not
960
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to assail any specific Black Christians who are listening or watching.
961
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Christianity may have had a massive impact in your life,
962
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and I am thrilled for you for that, But as
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a mass as a what we millions of black people
964
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in America? Does it make sense for us to continue
965
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being predominantly Christian?
966
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You know this, this this hits home actually very very well,
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because y'all know I love I love my granny to pieces,
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and as far as long as I can remember, my
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granny's been attending church weekly, more than once weekly, and
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it's taking taking up so much of her life. I
971
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remember specifically having a conversation with my granny and I
972
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told her two things. I said, Granny, I don't know
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if you know this, but what you've given to Communion
974
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could have funded this institution, just just just that you
975
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put so much in here. You could have bought this
976
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old church and done it three times over. I told
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my granny. I remember telling that one thing I said.
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I said, Granny, you could believe in God and still
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outgrow this building. I don't know if you know that
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your your your your belief does not end the moment
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you walk out this door. I said, Granny, you tie
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your life to this. And I for those who know
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my granny story, I used to question it all the
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time because I used to be like, if my granny
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so faithful in her religion, Why does she get to
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sit and struggle? Why is it that she's not living
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like the preacher, living or like the pastor living or
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like and you know it used to amaze me. But yes,
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I believe we tell ourselves too close to religion and
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we failed to see what we must discover on our
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own terms of spiritualm.
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Gee, I think some of us are. I think some
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of y'all gen z ers and the younger millennials are
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actually leaving the church. We have a video about that.
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I want to see the video and then get your
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opinion on that.
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So I think show an exodus of younger generations from
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the church. Here's their take on why.
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I'm part of the only person my age grew up
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in the church. Everybody else was like forty sixties, seventies.
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Why do you think that is We're.
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Doing things the same.
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Way we've been doing them in the forties and the thirties,
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and young people are just not connecting with that.
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I'm not sure why he's saying that it's only young
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people's career.
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I'm not a gen Z but I have three in
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my have two and one millennial in my household, and
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for them, they straight call it pimping, They say the
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they call a lot of pastors pull pit pimps, and
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they believe that church has evolved to that, has devolved
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to that, and that they can't trust the messengers in
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these poolpits when they go on social media and they're
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private jets flying to their islands. And again, nobody's begrudging
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them for being successful. But if you're being successful on
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the backs of Granny Dmitri's granny, if you're taking the
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Social Security dollars from fixed income folks like you know,
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black folks who we know in our community, who are
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given their last dime, and you're flaunting that you're flying
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around in a private jet, you're living in mansions, there's
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something wrong with that and we need to call that out,
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whether you call them open pimps or just straight up frosters.
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Are we seeing a lot of people around your age,
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little older, a little younger, like leaving church, not thinking
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about religion, like moving away from that entirely.
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Absolutely, It's it's you're either moving it away. You either
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moving away from it entirely or you studying it on
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your own accord and interpret interpreting your own meaning. I
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know a lot of people who have Bible study online,
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like off church, outside of this building, outside of I
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remember going to church.
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Man.
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One of the biggest things that like noted me was like, oh,
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it was like communion going around past the play they
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start using cashop, Apple, pay zeo, Venmo, all these things,
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and these pastors these days got more Instagram followers than me. Like,
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it's not making sense. And I think that alone the influence.
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We've looked at it and said, how do I know
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I can trust you? I understand you telling me by
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it too the book, but how do I know I
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could trust you? And with social media making it so
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prevalent into other people's lives, we get to see what
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your pass to do. You get to hear the God,
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the whispers in the church and x y Z so
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absolutely we've listened and we weren't forced by our parents.
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How our parents was forced by theirs, Doc.
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I wonder what you think of that that he's saying
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that gen z Ers are leaving the church. I wonder
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if you're seeing that. But he's talking about they still
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want spiritual education, they still want an inner life. They
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are searching for that outside of the institution. They are
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finding it on their own. So they're not abandoning their
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spiritual life, they're abandoning the church. Are you seeing that
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from younger folks.
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Yeah, they want traditional leadership. They want leaders who aren't
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out payton the town read like them. They want leaders
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who aren't out to two, three, four or five am
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you know, doing the same type of sinning that.
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They're doing now? Is it realistic? Maybe not, because everyone's human.
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But I believe, and I know growing up Catholic and
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then transitioning to non denomination Christian, that there was a
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time where the pole pit at least had a certain
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level of honoring and admiration that you could have for
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the person who was feeding you word and who was
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leading you that looked like they had a sub stable
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family where it wasn't the church's business. Again that the
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pastor is sleeping with the side chick or the pastors
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on wife number four, And then you know he's doing
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these things that.
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Are human but also are not very pope pittish.
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And now that may sound judgmental, and I'm just telling
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you what I'm hearing because I have Bible study at
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my home every sorry, every two weeks on Monday, my
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bishop comes here, and that is One of the number
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one things that the younger generation are saying is, Doc,
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we love that you have Bible study there, because one
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we could be ourself too.
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You're being in a bishop who isn't into the same
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fleshly lustful things that we're into. So they're able to
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separate it and say, hey, there's some hope here. If
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I follow these principles, possibly I can become more christ Like.
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And leadership that shows them not perfection, but what is
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christ like? What do applying the principles that you're teaching
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us look like? Or are you just teaching it for.
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A transactional exchange of being paid. Churches used to be
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about relationships and resources. Folks can't even come to their
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pastors nowadays and say, hey, I need help with the
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bill or I need help with childcare. Where are the
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resources at? When you bring up slave days, churches weren't
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just a place for people to go to get a word.
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It was refuge, it was resources, it was community. That's
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where we family at.
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That's all we had.
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We don't have that today whatsoever.
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We just have folks that come they're getting a word
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and they have no leadership, no leadership whatsoever.
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I just wonder if the message, the spiritual message that's
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coming from Christianity is still valuable for black people on
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a political level. It may work for on a spiritual
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level in terms of guiding your life, but does it
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work on a political level the way it worked when
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it was a civil rights movement, when it was delivering
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us from other tribulations we've been through in traumas we've
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been through. But we'll see, all right. Fantastic show. Thank
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you guys so much much for rocking with us and
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like giving your heart and your soul in this whole episode.
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I really appreciated uh Riva Martin been rocking with us
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all week long. We really appreciate your heart and soul
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and your legal knowledge and your wisdom. As a community members,
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we're elders. Other people don't understand. They want to call
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us ancestors or ancients. We're elders, and it's different.
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You are a aageous sage, sages.
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Arriva is a mature woman. You are a resurrected ancestor.
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You ain't you maybe you, oh, don't even put her
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in the same She cannot coexist with you two different people.
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You're an old boy, which actually has the people have
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said that before, I wouldn't give you.
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That nice of a compliment? Was not that nice of
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a compliment.
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