"A DEEP STATE PSYOP" ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, UFOs and TIME TRAVEL (Ft. Alan Berman)

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Thank you.
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All right, everybody, welcome back to Total Disclosure. It is
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so good to be home, back from Austin, Texas, where
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we just covered SideQuest, which was originally AustinQuest. Um, but
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the original, well, you know what? I won't spoil it. Um,
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we're doing a documentary about what happened. So, um, that
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will be coming out, uh, shortly. I got to talk
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to so many amazing people, including, um, Dan Richards, Hugh Newman,
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David Childress, uh, Billy Carson, bunch of people, uh, as well,
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you know, got to meet them in person. Uh, this
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is also more on the ancient civilization side. Um, So
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I was there to bridge the gap and it was
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really fun to do it. With that being said, we're
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back here tonight live with Alan Berman, who is the
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creator of the Psychohistory Prediction Engine, an open source map
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connecting the people, money, and machinery that run things. The
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site itself is self-funded with no backers from institutions, meaning
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it's free for public use. I like a good open
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source tool. For the rest of his bio, we'll let
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him tell us. So with that being said, let's welcome
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our guest tonight, Mr. Alan Berman. How are you doing, friend?
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I'm good, Tyler. Thank you for having me. It's a
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pleasure to be here.
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Super happy, man. Super, super. I had to delay on you, man.
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That was giving me anxiety. Also, I feel like since
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I've been back from Austin, even though it's only an
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hour difference, my sleep schedule is all messed up because
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of the hours we were doing. So I've been feeling
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kind of weird. And over this last week, dude, I
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had some crazy fucking dreams.
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There's nothing better. That's a good lucid dreaming, especially if
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you remember it. I, uh, not remember mine.
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Um, so for anyone who maybe doesn't know, uh, you know,
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who you are, what you do, um, let's maybe like,
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like start off with a little icebreaker. Um, you know,
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who are you? How'd you get to the community? And, um, yeah, we'll,
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we'll kind of go from there.
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Well, I would expect that most of your audience wouldn't
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know who I am. I'm sure most of the people
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are hearing that and saying, who the hell is this guy?
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For starters, you gave me a nice little introduction before
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and explained the site pretty well. The one thing that
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I do want to point out that not only is
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there no funding to this, but it is just me.
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There's no one else. It is just me who made
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the site. I made the videos. I wrote the articles
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that are on the site. Everything is basically from my brain,
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my creation. And the reason why I built the site
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is because like a lot of your audience and like
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most of us, we go down rabbit holes, right? That's
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just human nature. We're trying to figure out the why
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of things, why we exist, what's in the sky, what's
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around us. We understand very little as humans. So I
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created this site to pull us out of those rabbit
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holes and show sometimes that these rabbit holes are being
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funded by people that want you in them. And there's
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a lot of reasons why that's the case, which I'm
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sure we'll get into.
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I have myself muted. So, and that's why, honestly, I
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thought this was such a like timely conversation because, um,
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a few things have started to come out about, and,
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and I don't like to play that whole, like, um,
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I don't like to get involved with like the drama drama.
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I don't like to get involved with it per se,
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like on a professional level, but what you're talking about
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is a are those same folks that want you down
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the rabbit hole, at least their version of the rabbit hole,
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their narratives. They want to keep us in the dark,
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you know, pit us against each other. And, you know,
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all while they continuously trade access for their soul, you know.
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There's an entire ecosystem that's supported by that. And We
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all contribute to it by giving it our attention. Currency, right?
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Our money or whatever you want to call currency. I
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don't view that as the real currency. Your attention is currency.
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Consciousness is the real currency because that's what allows you
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to contribute the rest of this resources, everything else. So
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I think just very simply, there are a lot of
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people that don't even necessarily know that they're contributing to
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this ecosystem. They just view it as a way to
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get to the top. But if you start looking past
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the actual people who are speaking and past the events,
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and you start looking at the infrastructure that lies underneath
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it all, it all kind of leads back to the
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same place.
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Agreed. And where is that place? Where is it leading
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back to? Where are you finding that it leads back to?
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Well, it's an amalgamation of the military-industrial complex mixed with corporation,
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mixed with church, mixed with state, It is the exact
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thing that Eisenhower warned us about in 61 during his
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farewell address about the fungus growing on the American public
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and people. And you look at the shape of our
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world right now and your business disclosure, right? UFOs, you
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look at who's making money off of that. You look
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at someone like Robert Bigelow and his whole fortune was
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made off of tourists. It was made off of accommodating tourists.
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And what's better for tourism than a never-ending business that
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has a question that has no answer, right? It could
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have never-ending speculation about what's going on. So you just
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look at Skinwalker Ranch, for example, and you look at
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how that was sold to the History Channel, who's now
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selling these never-ending questions, which their entire platform and business
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model has been completely one-off and revamped since I was
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a kid, and they actually aired history. You look at
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it now and it's insane. So we can just start here.
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That's a perfect place to begin.
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Yeah. And listen, by all means, you know, okay. I
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have friends on Skinwalker Ranch, but this is a very interesting,
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this is something I've also talked about that Skinwalker Ranch,
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Bradshaw Ranch, like why was Bigelow so interested in them?
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And then you look at who was actually involved and
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you got guys like Hal Puthoff, you know, from SRI.
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You have Dr. Eric Davis, who, you know, I know
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everybody thinks the guy is on our side, but something
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about him just doesn't. I don't trust him. I don't
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know what it is about him, but I just don't
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trust him. And Then guys like Dr. John Alexander, the
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literal father of non-lethal weaponry. And then you have people
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experiencing things at these same places. So are they actual
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paranormal hotspots? Or were they experiment grounds for advanced lasers
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and you know, whether it's recovered technology that was reverse
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engineered from a non-human intelligence, that part, kind of irrelevant.
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If what they were doing at places like Skinwalker Ranch
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and these other very remote areas, which may have an inherent,
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you know, local, like, something to tap into. Like, maybe
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that's why they picked it in the first place. Maybe,
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you know, it does have some element to it that,
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you know, reality becomes thin or the veil becomes thin,
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but I'm not so sure that they weren't experimenting on
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something and something really, really dirty.
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Yeah.
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Well, I want to bring up Hal Pudoff's comments about amnesty.
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Are you familiar with how many times he's brought up
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amnesty and what would be needed in order for actual
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disclosure to happen? And I bring up those comments simply
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because You talk about all the bad things that they're doing.
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I mean, one of the titles to my documentary is Eugenics,
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Not Aliens. And it's titled that for a reason. So
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we can kind of go through what some of my
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thoughts are on some of the aliens that were these
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four different types of aliens that we're being told exist.
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What I kind of believe is more so the case.
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And we can go through the last hundred years of
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eugenics and see exactly how there is a pipeline. from
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the twain experiments the nazis were doing and the other
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stuff that they were doing the experiments on humans and
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and trying to enter the space race and how that
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tracks all the way up to today and the tech
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boom that we have and the exact amalgamation of corporation
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and state and all these billionaires and all this stuff
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that i was talking about before so when you just
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walk me through walk a ranch alone you can ask
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two questions who's making money off it number one and
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i'm not here to dismiss phenomena i don't i don't
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know with a lot of things right like i'm Some
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idiot sitting in a boxing ring in his basement talking
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to you because you're nice enough to have me on
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your show. But again, like who's making money off of this?
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And the second thing is how many people are making
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not just money off of this at the top, but
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making a long term living or making some type of. Listen,
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people like being famous, people like people knowing who they
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are and being part of a community. Not everyone is
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similar to the way that I am, where I kind
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of like hide in the woods in my house and
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don't really leave. I like being alone and by myself.
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And I'm only doing this because I like when I
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say this, I mean, interviews and creating all the things
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that I did, because there is so much of the
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other stuff going on that it would be nice if
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there were a few voices that aren't making money off
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of this and have no really just goal other than
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trying to get people to critically think about the information
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that they're getting and to essentially question what they're hearing,
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who they're hearing it from and why they're hearing. And
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that includes me. Go dig deep. I've said this on
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multiple shows. If anyone in the audience wants to dox
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me privately without airing all my stuff to see who
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I am and go ahead, go see what benefit I
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would have from doing what I'm doing personally, as opposed
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to all of the people that I'm talking about here
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and what I'm telling you to question. And I think
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that's a good start.
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And honestly, you know, this is something that we've kind
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of drilled down on, on this show is the monetization
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of the pursuit of truth. Um, you know, reality should
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not be something that can be classified, nor, nor should
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it be behind a paywall, like period and stop. That's it.
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Your lips, the God's ears, man. I, uh, couldn't agree more.
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And it really does make me sick. And honestly, it's like, um,
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I had a recent bump in the road where, are
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you familiar with Chris Bledsoe? I'll take that as a yes.
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I'm sorry. I'm thinking about how much money I'm going
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to donate to the Bledsoe Foundation. As you were saying
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that I was just pouring through the thousands of dollars
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I've been saving up for Chris Bledsoe to go build
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his house. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to cut you off.
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You want to be a founding angel?
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Of course. Who doesn't? That's the real question. Who doesn't
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want to be a founding angel?
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Again, not shitting on Chris personally. I guess it's going
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to be hard to not sound like I am. I
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actually think Chris is a fine human being. I've met
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him in person several times. He's a humble man. But
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He's also being flown to these conventions, private. He's getting
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put up. He's leaving with a fat check at the
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end from conventions like Contact in the Desert. Like, let's
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not fucking pretend that this guy, his whole thing was
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that he used to be rich and then he fucking
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wasn't because of the housing boom, like the housing bubble burst.
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And then he comes up with this, you know, Um,
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he has this sighting, which I, I believe did happen,
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but everything thereafter with the lady, the prophecies, the dates,
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all of that. And I've told him this to his
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face that you should never, like, I don't think putting
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a date on anything like ever is a good thing
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because like, it's just going to hurt your reputation if
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it's not something that someone can hold tangibly. And, Um,
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that's what happened. And I said something about it. And
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then everyone who's a blood cell supporter attacked me, including
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one of the guests that I was about to have
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on that week, Bob McGuire and Bob in the, in
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recent weeks seems to have lost his marbles. Um, I,
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I don't know what's going on with them, but he's
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not the same Bob that I knew a couple of
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years ago. I mean, now he's talking about like the
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Knights Templar and, you know, like how he's on a crusade.
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It's just like, whoa, whoa, where did we turn?
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The want to believe is a lot stronger sometimes than
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the ability to critically think. Exactly. And that is one
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of the main reasons, again, why I wanted to do
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your show, because I do think that it is important
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to critically think and look past what people are saying.
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And as just referencing Chris Bledsoe here again, Maybe he
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believes it. There are a lot of useful idiots in
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the world. And there are a lot of people who
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help shape narratives that they're not necessarily knowing that they're doing.
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And I just want to reference Jordan Crowder. Are you
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familiar with Jordan Crowder?
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Very. Yeah, very.
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So Jordan Crowder said during one of his episodes, it
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was about manifestation, that he was going to manifest making
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a million dollars this year.
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you have the same people from the Monroe Institute and
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Bledsoe and all of these guys, that's their mindset at
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the same time as they're telling you all of this
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stuff that they're sure of about consciousness and about all
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of the things that Robert Monroe did without really diving
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into the fact that it was all CIA based. Like
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at what point are we going to look past what
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people are saying and simply look at the evidence that
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surrounds all of the things that they're talking about? Right.
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So I just, Again, the Bledsoe thing makes me laugh.
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It's like, how much money are you going to go
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pour into this guy for him to tell you a
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bunch of things with no actual substance or evidence? And
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you have 60-something years of UFO disclosure leaks or whatever
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it is that you want to call this since Roswell
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in 47. It's been more than 60 years. But what
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evidence do we have? What substance do we have of anything?
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At this point, a lot of the evidence seems to
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be stories, right? Like there's, there are, of course, uh,
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you know, people who claim to have pieces of things or,
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you know, like Jacques Vallée and Gary Nolan. Um, but
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nothing that could be, nothing that could be put or
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stood up in a, in a congressional hearing and sway
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people 100%, right? Like this is undeniable evidence, uh, other
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than certain, you know, reliable people telling stories of their encounters.
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There is no physical evidence at this point.
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It's a business of trust me, bros. That's never ended
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and can continue to raise money, endless amounts of money
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on trust me, bro. Trust me, bro. Trust me, bro.
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Without presenting any evidence. And when you start getting sick
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of somebody, they shop in a new guy. Like Jay
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Stratton is the new guy. All of a sudden it's like,
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did we get disclosure? Now that Jay's book is a bestseller.
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Or did Jay just make a shitload of money at
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what point? Like how many times do these things have
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to keep cycling over and over again? It's more Boris
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of bullshit. Yeah, it really is.
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That's actually a really good point. Um, it's like, and, and,
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you know, I liken it to, um, like sports franchises, right?
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It's like, there's always going to like, there's always new
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people coming in and getting turned out. Um, but the
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stories are staying like, even when you go up to guys,
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like even when you rank it up to like guys
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like David crush, he just went on Rogan and essentially
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told story after story, after story of evidence that if
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you've been in the UFO community longer than a month
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and a half, chances are you've heard part of that
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story or the reptile, you know, you've heard some variation
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of almost everything he talks about in that episode of
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on Joe Rogan, but because it's David Grush and he
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gave a presidential briefing, people hold his, you know, him
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to a higher standard. And yeah, I get that like
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a hundred percent. Credibility is something you, you know, that you,
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you have and you earn you and you continuously earn. Right.
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Who's choosing that. A lot of us are just giving
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people these, these we're, we're, considering them credible based on
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the fact that they're a part of the same government
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who's been PSYOPing the shit out of us with this
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stuff since day one. Like, what are we doing? And
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just to add to your point real quick about Crush
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and about all of these other whistleblowers. So I kind
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of highlighted before, excuse me, I hinted before about the
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hundred years of UFO, the pipeline of eugenics to today's
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tech boom and how that's basically explains disclosure, right? So
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I'm some idiot sitting in his basement with horrible lighting.
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And I was able to dig up documents that can
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be researched and pulled by anybody about tardigrade going into
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the cells and how that helps with radiation. I was
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able to dig up a ton of research on exactly
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what would happen to a human if they entered space
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for a long time, their limbs, their eyes, And now
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everything essentially resembles a gray alien.
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Right.
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I was able to dig up a ton of information
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on the Levensborn program and how all of these Nordic
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aliens have been talked about since the 50s by people
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who all believe in theosophy and Blavatsky and these Aryan
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race stuff. What is that? So it all links back
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to a certain point.
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Right.
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So I don't understand why none of Disclosure has any
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of this information. But that exact pipeline right there basically
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explains everything. two of the biggest aliens in terms of disclosure, right?
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That's what Spielberg's whole movie was about.
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Can you break that down? You said a couple of things.
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You said a couple of words I didn't know. So
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can you run that back and walk me through it
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like I'm a child? Okay.
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So I think the best way, by the way, for
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anybody to research and look at any of this stuff
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is simply to just go to mokechups.com. and type in
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gray aliens, and it will show you the exact pipeline
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of what I'm talking about. But to kind of go
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in further, tardigrade is, I think, I don't know if
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it's like a live.
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Yeah, it's an organism.
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Yeah, it's an organism, and it can go into the cells.
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And what happens is when it goes into the cells,
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it allows for human beings to withstand radiation for longer
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periods of time. But unfortunately for the human beings who
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get the tardigrade shot into them, their brain goes to mush.
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And if you kind of mix in what the tardigrade
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does in terms of allowing the radiation, you mix in
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that and you mix in a technology like Neuralink, and
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you can kind of see how people start talking about
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gray aliens looking humanoid and the fact that they're very robotic.
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You can start tying things together. And that sounds okay. Like,
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I'm a little skeptical of this. This guy kind of
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knows what he's talking about.
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Well, yeah, wait. But how are we making the jump
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from tardigrades– and being inserted into people to the grays.
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How are we going from one to the other?
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Again, if you look at if a human is in
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space for a long time and they're not having contact
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with the sun, their skin is going.
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Oh, OK.
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OK. Yeah. You start looking at what would happen to
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a human being over the course of time in space.
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And you're essentially getting gray. And the only people that
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are talking about stuff like this essentially are people like
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George Johnny. And they're still doing it in a way
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that's full of psyops. It's Giorgiani is like Michael Aquino's
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bastard love child. So I, I, I, you know what
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I mean? Like there's a lot of truths and lies
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at the same time as he speaks.
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I'm, I'm going to be honest with you flat out.
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Cause I, that's who I am. I want to interview Giorgiani.
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I'm already talking to him. I, I, I hear what
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you're saying. And again, ask him.
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About the keynote. I, again, I'm not saying anything. I'd
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love to talk to George Johnny too, and ask him
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about everything that I'm saying.
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Heard, heard. I just want it to be like upfront
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about that. Cause I think we're live on X right now.
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So if he sees this, like.
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Again, yeah, he knows who's saying it. He knows who
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I am.
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So continue.
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I'm sorry.
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So again, you look at the gray aliens and you
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look at, what that would be. You have, essentially, you
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have the eugenics program that created that.
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Right?
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You look at Nordic aliens. Do you know anything about
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the Levensborn program and about, basically, the Nazis trying to
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create the super being, the Übermensch?
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I do, but for the audience, do you mind laying
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it out?
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Yeah. So, basically, they were taking babies from Poland and
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Norway and all these other different places and they were
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placing them with German families along with like eugenics breeding,
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trying to create the perfect blonde haired, blue eyed child.
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And there was a film named Boys in Brazil that
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kind of like did a fantastical version of this. It's
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pretty good. It's from the 70s, if you don't mind
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old movies. And that kind of outlines what essentially is
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being sold as Nordic aliens. And if you look at
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what Nordic aliens are, the history of that starts with
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Theosophy and Helena Blavatsky. and how that kind of morphed
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and branched into two sides, what the Nazis were doing, essentially,
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and what we did in America. I went through it
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in my eugenics documentary, and I'm going to butcher a
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lot of these facts, again, which is why I created
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the engine. So that way people can go and research
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everything I'm saying. But there was a company in the
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50s called Valor something that essentially started pushing this blonde-haired,
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blue-eyed Nordic being from Venus. And Val Thor, I believe,
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was another case of something like this. And you're basically
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just looking at Nazi eugenics. And Giorgiani has really gone
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through and outlined a lot of this stuff brilliantly. But
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he also does it in a way that it's still
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disguised in time travel and hides all of the things
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that happened right out in the public. He talks about
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breakaway programs, but yet we have trillions of dollars disappearing
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from the United States budget all the time. You have
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companies like Lockheed Martin and Raytheon and all these companies
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that are developing craft and we're being sold it as UFOs.
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And they're not releasing the technology because it's hidden behind
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corporation and privacy because they're private companies. And you're getting
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the exact thing that I'm talking about before, where you
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have these corporations, you have people like Musk and Thiel
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and Bill Gates and involved with not just technology, but
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health care and all these different fields. And you're looking
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at a military industrial complex that's selling a psyops. And
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my belief is that aliens are one of them. And
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that doesn't mean that aliens don't exist or that there's
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a whole world outside of the world that we understand.
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It just means the one that we're being sold by
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our government is absolute horse shit. And there's a reason
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it's absolute horse shit, because it creates power structures that
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allow us to think that it's anything but other humans
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screwing us over. And I think once humans realize that
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other humans are behind the wheel and that we outnumber
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them a thousand to one, I think the gigs up.
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So you got to disguise it and that aliens are
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real or that artificial intelligence is going to be our
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new super God and all of this horseshit. It's no
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different than the religions of the past. You don't.
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So you don't think that that artificial intelligence is dangerous.
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I do think it's dangerous, but I think the programming
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of the artificial intelligence and who's essentially, again, code itself
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isn't dangerous. Who programmed the code and what was their
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intention behind programming the code? And my concern with artificial
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intelligence is more so about who owns the grid. It's
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about who owns the electricity and the power, because once
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you see our, and again, this is me going, throwing
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a curveball here to your audience, but once my belief
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is that our economy is going to crash and that
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our paper currency is going to turn into a digital currency.
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And once that happens, you're looking at really the importance
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of the grid being 10 times what it is now.
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And if you look at the wars that are happening,
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you're looking at wars over resources. And a lot of
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those resources power the grid.
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Yes. It's always been, we've always fought over resource, whether it's,
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you know, oil, you know, whether it's, um, uh, I mean,
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if you want to call control over population, uh, a resource, uh, or,
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or something else, you know, like religious beliefs, uh, it's
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always for something that is like, uh, a very, very, like,
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if you step back away from it, you're like, what
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are we doing? Like millions of lives lost for what,
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for what reason? It's so primitive. Um, And here we
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are right on the brink of another. And it's like,
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and so, you know, it reminds me again, like you said,
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of the community, the UFO community. It's like, it's like
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a political race. Like you get all these promises from
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these people. You start a little hope, right? You get
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a little hope inside you for change, real change. And
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then the rug is pulled out from under you and
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you get the same old bullshit.
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And you get the next guy.
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00:29:00.029 --> 00:29:00.150
Yeah.
477
00:29:00.170 --> 00:29:02.029
They throw in the next guy. And again, if you
478
00:29:02.049 --> 00:29:03.690
look at the money behind it, you look at someone
479
00:29:03.710 --> 00:29:06.589
like Greer with Rockefeller money, or you look at the
480
00:29:06.710 --> 00:29:08.450
ties that a lot of the people in the UFO
481
00:29:08.490 --> 00:29:12.069
community have to Peter feel from, from Jesse Michaels to,
482
00:29:12.250 --> 00:29:15.380
to what's her name? Pasulka. And like, I mean, come on,
483
00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:17.160
what are we doing here? Everybody's tied to a billionaire
484
00:29:17.180 --> 00:29:19.180
at some point. Also, if you don't mind, I'll just,
485
00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:21.079
I'm going to create some light in here real quick.
486
00:29:21.099 --> 00:29:21.900
So I'm not so dark.
487
00:29:22.259 --> 00:29:27.359
I mean, yeah. Even Joe Rogan and, and, and guys
488
00:29:27.380 --> 00:29:32.660
like Duncan Trestle. Who I never thought would sway that way,
489
00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:39.049
have essentially, you know, I don't know if you want
490
00:29:39.069 --> 00:29:43.789
to call it converted. but they've switched their tune and
491
00:29:43.869 --> 00:29:49.079
gear on Peter Thiel. And it's like, I just couldn't
492
00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:55.519
even believe it. I can't believe it sometimes that they're
493
00:29:55.539 --> 00:29:59.839
not seeing what they saw simply three, four years ago.
494
00:30:00.289 --> 00:30:02.559
And it's, and it does remind you, it's like, it's
495
00:30:02.579 --> 00:30:05.380
like this, the idea of the walled garden, like the
496
00:30:05.500 --> 00:30:08.700
UFO community is no different. It's a walled garden that
497
00:30:09.059 --> 00:30:11.079
if you're on the outside looking in, you want to
498
00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:14.400
be a part of desperately. And what will you give
499
00:30:14.740 --> 00:30:18.509
to be a part of that club? Most people will,
500
00:30:18.569 --> 00:30:22.630
will give up. They'll give up most of what they
501
00:30:22.670 --> 00:30:23.309
have for it.
502
00:30:23.309 --> 00:30:27.779
It's funny. I wrote a piece about, That walled garden.
503
00:30:28.039 --> 00:30:30.960
And that's part of the documentary that I just released.
504
00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:32.460
If you want to call it a documentary, whatever these
505
00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:34.059
videos are, I don't know what else to call them,
506
00:30:34.099 --> 00:30:37.059
but they're like an hour and a half long and
507
00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:41.240
they're documentary ish style. So in the documentary, I guess
508
00:30:41.509 --> 00:30:44.109
calling it that again, stop feeding the grifters. I went
509
00:30:44.170 --> 00:30:48.009
through how the walled garden, essentially there are these mini
510
00:30:48.029 --> 00:30:50.750
walled gardens like the UFO community or Joe Rogan's comedy
511
00:30:50.789 --> 00:30:54.349
club community, but the real walled garden is, the wall
512
00:30:54.400 --> 00:30:58.849
between humanity, between the American public and between the military
513
00:30:58.869 --> 00:31:01.630
industrial complex and all the things they create. And if
514
00:31:01.650 --> 00:31:03.769
you look at Peter Thiel, for example, I think he's
515
00:31:03.829 --> 00:31:06.529
a great person to look at because you look at
516
00:31:06.569 --> 00:31:09.230
all the ties that he has to not just the
517
00:31:09.329 --> 00:31:13.049
UFO community, but he's tied to pharmaceuticals, which he's now, uh,
518
00:31:13.809 --> 00:31:17.650
promoting psychedelics. He used Rogan to get psychedelics passed through Trump,
519
00:31:17.670 --> 00:31:20.869
that whole thing. Are you familiar? Trump was in the
520
00:31:20.890 --> 00:31:22.490
White House, or excuse me, uh, Rogan was in the
521
00:31:22.529 --> 00:31:25.430
White House in, uh, April, I believe, where they were
522
00:31:25.450 --> 00:31:28.250
signing the... Yeah, it was a Thiel company. Thiel owned
523
00:31:28.250 --> 00:31:31.380
7% or 8% of the company that got fast-tracked. Really?
524
00:31:32.059 --> 00:31:34.519
He was one of three companies. So you start looking
525
00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:37.339
into these things. You start looking past what people are saying.
526
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:39.859
You start looking and following the money of all of
527
00:31:39.900 --> 00:31:43.140
this stuff. And I get, I know I sound like
528
00:31:43.200 --> 00:31:46.000
Charlie Kelly in the mailroom episode of It's Always Sunny
529
00:31:46.019 --> 00:31:50.359
in Philadelphia. But everything tracks, man. All the money's there.
530
00:31:50.619 --> 00:31:54.359
And people like Peter Thiel, they're not... what we even
531
00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:58.119
think they are. They're a mask protecting this infrastructure, this
532
00:31:58.180 --> 00:32:01.460
military industrial complex. We keep pointing fingers at people, but
533
00:32:01.500 --> 00:32:06.140
if you remove any of the people, the same system exists, right?
534
00:32:06.500 --> 00:32:09.160
It's the infrastructure that needs to be torn down. And
535
00:32:09.779 --> 00:32:13.230
a lot of these guys, including Thiel, were students of
536
00:32:13.309 --> 00:32:15.809
Rene Girard, who was a teacher at Stanford who taught
537
00:32:15.849 --> 00:32:19.890
something called memetic theory. And part of what that teaching
538
00:32:19.990 --> 00:32:24.200
is that The public needs villains. They need people essentially
539
00:32:24.269 --> 00:32:28.269
to scapegoat. They need people to break out the guillotine for,
540
00:32:28.309 --> 00:32:32.529
because that allows the infrastructure underneath the people that are
541
00:32:32.549 --> 00:32:36.339
being used as masks to continue to run operationally functional
542
00:32:36.599 --> 00:32:39.400
while the mask that it's wearing, keep getting replaced and
543
00:32:39.420 --> 00:32:42.500
replaced and replaced because we think that we're doing something.
544
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:44.720
And it's essentially in a weird way. It's kind of
545
00:32:44.740 --> 00:32:46.759
like voting and how we vote for the president. And
546
00:32:46.819 --> 00:32:50.130
there are genuinely people that think that, who the president
547
00:32:50.150 --> 00:32:53.240
is matters and that their vote counts, right? It's the same.
548
00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:55.319
The billionaires are the same thing, whether you're going at
549
00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:57.240
Gates or feel or whoever it is, it's all the
550
00:32:57.259 --> 00:33:01.119
same nonsense because the infrastructure underneath, it's still built by
551
00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:03.039
the same people. They were all at the same meetings.
552
00:33:03.059 --> 00:33:04.960
They're all part of the same Bilderberg groups. They're all
553
00:33:05.059 --> 00:33:09.220
tied to Epstein, right? Like all this shit is, is again,
554
00:33:09.349 --> 00:33:11.250
it's all tied together.
555
00:33:11.930 --> 00:33:15.009
You just gave me this, like, um, almost like epiphany
556
00:33:15.109 --> 00:33:21.740
actually just now. You know what it really, like what
557
00:33:21.779 --> 00:33:23.640
you just said, you know what it really sounds like?
558
00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:34.210
It's all fucking WWE. It's a choreographed dance with villains
559
00:33:34.309 --> 00:33:39.630
and heels and baby faces, right? But at the end
560
00:33:39.670 --> 00:33:42.269
of the day, they all go back to the same
561
00:33:42.309 --> 00:33:44.970
locker room. They all go out to dinner together. They
562
00:33:45.009 --> 00:33:46.089
all drink together.
563
00:33:46.539 --> 00:33:46.700
Right?
564
00:33:46.740 --> 00:33:51.079
They're boys, but in the ring, right? And people will
565
00:33:51.140 --> 00:33:55.000
even suspend their belief when they know it's fake wrestling.
566
00:33:55.039 --> 00:34:01.789
It's not even real fighting. It's all this orchestrated dance
567
00:34:03.230 --> 00:34:06.609
to entertain you. Holy shit.
568
00:34:06.970 --> 00:34:09.150
Yeah, I talked about this in the documentary. I did
569
00:34:09.190 --> 00:34:12.230
a whole thing on Stop Feeding the Grifters. I included
570
00:34:12.369 --> 00:34:16.050
Steve Austin stuttering McMahon and CM Punk dropping the pipe bombs.
571
00:34:16.429 --> 00:34:19.610
I'm a wrestling fan, dude. You're not going to get
572
00:34:19.650 --> 00:34:22.570
an Uber on me. I know kayfabe when I see it.
573
00:34:22.690 --> 00:34:24.369
I can see it work. I know when it works
574
00:34:24.389 --> 00:34:27.449
to shoot too. I see all of this shit. So
575
00:34:27.909 --> 00:34:30.969
I consider myself, and again, I do not really want
576
00:34:30.989 --> 00:34:32.949
to be doing this, but someone like me is an
577
00:34:33.150 --> 00:34:37.099
absolute fucking nightmare for the system because a very motivated
578
00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:39.739
human being who understands kayfabe to the level that I
579
00:34:39.860 --> 00:34:43.099
do can expose it to the average human being a
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00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:46.429
way that another person can't. which is really what my
581
00:34:46.469 --> 00:34:49.239
intention is. Because if you look at what, at the
582
00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:52.219
end of every interview, what normal people do when they
583
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:54.059
do an interview is they plug their book or whatever
584
00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:56.599
the website is or whatever they're trying to sell. I
585
00:34:56.619 --> 00:34:59.280
don't do that. I sell you critical thought. I'm selling
586
00:34:59.340 --> 00:35:01.440
you yourself and the fact that you're better than you
587
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:03.320
think you are and you need to stop buying all
588
00:35:03.340 --> 00:35:06.289
of this bullshit and start digging into what you think
589
00:35:06.349 --> 00:35:06.769
is right.
590
00:35:07.909 --> 00:35:13.409
So if you had, you know, we're very much taught
591
00:35:14.469 --> 00:35:19.780
that the world is black and white. What do you
592
00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:23.019
think is the big gray? What do you think is
593
00:35:23.059 --> 00:35:25.340
the biggest thing that they're trying to keep us from?
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00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:27.559
Is it consciousness and knowing what we truly are?
595
00:35:28.300 --> 00:35:30.880
Yeah, I think to a certain extent. I also think
596
00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:35.110
Ordo Ab Chao can either be a tool of liberation
597
00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:37.130
or it can be the thing that allows you to
598
00:35:37.150 --> 00:35:39.989
be enslaved. And what Ordo Ab Chao means, it means
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00:35:40.070 --> 00:35:43.440
order out of chaos. And what my belief is, and
600
00:35:43.460 --> 00:35:45.579
I'm not here to push my belief on anybody, but
601
00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:48.579
I think if you just look at human history and
602
00:35:48.719 --> 00:35:51.409
every book that's ever been written in human history, religious
603
00:35:51.469 --> 00:35:53.309
or not, it's been written by man. A man was
604
00:35:53.329 --> 00:35:55.309
the person who put the pen down on paper, typed
605
00:35:55.349 --> 00:35:57.329
it out, whatever form or fashion that they did it.
606
00:35:57.949 --> 00:36:00.769
And we were created by something simply that didn't tell
607
00:36:00.809 --> 00:36:04.360
us a fucking thing. We're fish in a bowl and
608
00:36:04.460 --> 00:36:07.039
we have an automatic feeder on our bowl. And inside
609
00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:09.079
of the bowl, we can see everything. But outside of
610
00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:11.360
the bowl, it's not a glass bowl. We can't see
611
00:36:11.420 --> 00:36:14.500
anything outside. We don't know what it is. And there's
612
00:36:14.579 --> 00:36:16.699
a lot of people that are trying to tell you
613
00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:19.119
that they know what's outside of the bowl, like Jordan Crowder.
614
00:36:19.900 --> 00:36:21.639
And they're telling you at the same time that they're
615
00:36:21.659 --> 00:36:23.679
trying to make a million dollars in a year by
616
00:36:23.719 --> 00:36:27.280
selling you all of this shit. And you have people
617
00:36:27.300 --> 00:36:29.599
like me that are telling you to stop buying the
618
00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:33.409
nonsense and stop feeding the grifters, whether it be UFOs,
619
00:36:33.469 --> 00:36:38.210
whether it be artificial intelligence, because it's all the same stuff.
620
00:36:38.269 --> 00:36:40.579
It all crashes back at the same point. The second
621
00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:43.980
wall of thermodynamics and the fact that there are limitations
622
00:36:44.059 --> 00:36:47.320
on what humans know. And if we really had things
623
00:36:47.380 --> 00:36:50.280
figured out, like people are saying, like if we really
624
00:36:50.340 --> 00:36:53.400
had a full understanding of things, humans would be using
625
00:36:53.420 --> 00:36:55.360
it against other humans. They wouldn't be hiding it.
626
00:36:56.159 --> 00:36:56.360
Right.
627
00:36:56.400 --> 00:37:00.449
Right. So I think maybe, yeah, like I do think
628
00:37:00.489 --> 00:37:02.710
like military has technology that like you don't see for
629
00:37:02.710 --> 00:37:05.369
20 or 30 years. But I also think at the
630
00:37:05.409 --> 00:37:07.849
same time, like I don't think I don't think time
631
00:37:07.889 --> 00:37:10.130
traveling is happening. I don't think that exists. I think
632
00:37:10.150 --> 00:37:13.590
that's a lot of nonsense because you're looking at national
633
00:37:13.610 --> 00:37:16.690
databases and things being deleted and being sold back to
634
00:37:16.730 --> 00:37:17.789
you as retrocausality.
635
00:37:18.730 --> 00:37:22.469
But why do you think, because I'm being dead serious here,
636
00:37:23.179 --> 00:37:28.340
why do you think the idea of time travel itself
637
00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:30.360
is inherently nonsense?
638
00:37:31.480 --> 00:37:35.179
I don't think the idea itself is inherently nonsense, but
639
00:37:35.219 --> 00:37:40.019
my catch up on time travel is that if it happened,
640
00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:41.909
that essentially would create the singularity.
641
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:42.389
No?
642
00:37:43.090 --> 00:37:47.889
Because it would essentially create a stoppage of time. Yes,
643
00:37:47.929 --> 00:37:49.909
we did have to bring WWE into the conversation. I
644
00:37:50.210 --> 00:37:51.670
can keep doing it if you like.
645
00:37:53.090 --> 00:37:59.019
Yeah, Dave loves WWE. I stopped watching it, but I'll
646
00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:05.139
be honest, I love watching behind-the-scenes stuff. I like watching wrestlers.
647
00:38:05.460 --> 00:38:08.469
I don't watch wrestling anymore for the story. I watch
648
00:38:08.510 --> 00:38:13.909
it for like, I'm very much in love with the
649
00:38:13.969 --> 00:38:17.789
behind the scenes and how it comes together and the
650
00:38:17.869 --> 00:38:21.630
actual creation of the dance, which is ironic when we
651
00:38:22.010 --> 00:38:25.230
compared it to what we compared it to. Because I
652
00:38:26.389 --> 00:38:30.590
very much am anti that when it comes to the
653
00:38:30.670 --> 00:38:34.289
UFO community. So it's like a conundrum when we use
654
00:38:34.309 --> 00:38:37.989
that comparison that we did earlier. But I think wrestling
655
00:38:38.050 --> 00:38:42.289
is a very unique comparison to what we're dealing with
656
00:38:42.590 --> 00:38:46.519
across the board, like not just in the UFO community,
657
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:48.860
but in ancient civilization.
658
00:38:48.940 --> 00:38:49.199
Right.
659
00:38:49.500 --> 00:38:54.070
Like in all these things, like even the Star Wars
660
00:38:54.110 --> 00:38:58.900
community has factions and they fight each other. Like it
661
00:38:58.940 --> 00:39:00.119
makes no sense.
662
00:39:00.500 --> 00:39:03.179
But that's part of what I'm getting to here is
663
00:39:03.260 --> 00:39:06.260
I think that like we have gotten to a point
664
00:39:06.340 --> 00:39:11.409
where we genuinely like slop and pseudoscience and nonsense more
665
00:39:11.429 --> 00:39:14.849
than we like individual sovereignty. And we would much rather
666
00:39:14.909 --> 00:39:19.650
believe a lot of these nonsensical things and believe that
667
00:39:19.809 --> 00:39:23.230
there is an invisible caste system that exists that essentially
668
00:39:23.289 --> 00:39:25.849
is keeping most of us enslaved to a power structure
669
00:39:25.889 --> 00:39:29.909
that none of us signed up for. And if you...
670
00:39:29.960 --> 00:39:33.039
look at like wrestling right you buy a ticket to
671
00:39:33.079 --> 00:39:35.960
that you go in knowing it's kayfabe and maybe you
672
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:38.570
don't maybe you're maybe it's still real to you damn
673
00:39:38.610 --> 00:39:42.170
it but like most people go in knowing that like
674
00:39:42.230 --> 00:39:45.349
it's kayfabe so like that's something that you agreed to
675
00:39:45.389 --> 00:39:48.030
before you even walked in i didn't sign up for
676
00:39:48.550 --> 00:39:51.449
being sigh up by my government and paying tax dollars
677
00:39:51.489 --> 00:39:53.880
to things that I don't necessarily agree to and fighting
678
00:39:53.949 --> 00:39:57.360
wars that I don't necessarily agree to for resources that
679
00:39:57.380 --> 00:39:59.519
I'm going to have to pay double for regardless of
680
00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:02.980
where they come from. So like, it's all nonsense. It's
681
00:40:03.099 --> 00:40:05.639
all nonsense. And I think when people start waking up
682
00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:10.699
to this system that we all just, okay, like we
683
00:40:10.739 --> 00:40:13.190
all just think is okay because we're born into it,
684
00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:17.630
but it's not. And right. get into all this nonsensical
685
00:40:17.670 --> 00:40:22.369
stuff and allow, again, Carl Sagan said it best, like
686
00:40:22.590 --> 00:40:28.239
extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. And you have people trying
687
00:40:28.260 --> 00:40:30.440
to dump down that saying and say that that's not
688
00:40:30.500 --> 00:40:33.780
something that is needed in the UFO community, for example.
689
00:40:34.300 --> 00:40:36.300
And I completely disagree. And I think one of the
690
00:40:36.360 --> 00:40:40.570
reasons for that is because, again, like never ending business.
691
00:40:41.750 --> 00:40:43.980
Yeah. Yeah, right.
692
00:40:44.199 --> 00:40:45.500
Sorry to keep going here, but the person that I
693
00:40:45.500 --> 00:40:48.000
actually quoted, Grant Levack, by the way, are you familiar
694
00:40:48.039 --> 00:40:48.260
with him?
695
00:40:48.920 --> 00:40:49.579
Yeah, he's a friend.
696
00:40:50.440 --> 00:40:51.780
Is he?
697
00:40:52.340 --> 00:40:52.880
The Aussie?
698
00:40:53.420 --> 00:40:56.619
Yeah, the Aussie. So I would like to point out
699
00:40:56.679 --> 00:40:58.949
that he's the one who actually said that extraordinary claims
700
00:40:58.989 --> 00:41:01.949
don't require extraordinary evidence. And I also want to point
701
00:41:01.989 --> 00:41:04.170
out the fact that Grant works for somebody called Diligent.
702
00:41:04.690 --> 00:41:07.949
And Diligent is heavily connected to what I am calling
703
00:41:07.969 --> 00:41:12.550
the military-industrial complex. So I think Grant's comments come from
704
00:41:12.610 --> 00:41:15.219
a place of where grant makes his business and his money.
705
00:41:15.860 --> 00:41:17.920
So you have to start looking into what these people
706
00:41:17.980 --> 00:41:19.199
are saying and what they're doing.
707
00:41:19.219 --> 00:41:19.340
Yeah.
708
00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:22.719
Go look into that grant, go look into diligent and
709
00:41:22.780 --> 00:41:25.239
go see where somebody, someone like his opinions come from.
710
00:41:26.280 --> 00:41:28.800
Interesting. And when I say friend, I don't have any
711
00:41:28.840 --> 00:41:32.920
friends on the show. He's a, he's, he's friendly to
712
00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:34.659
the show, but, um.
713
00:41:35.059 --> 00:41:37.019
Friendly to me too. Hi grant. I have no problem
714
00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:39.039
with you personally, but I have some questions and I
715
00:41:39.059 --> 00:41:40.820
know you blocked me on Twitter the second I said that,
716
00:41:41.349 --> 00:41:43.170
So I'm happy to bring it up here to one
717
00:41:43.210 --> 00:41:45.030
of his friends. So that way you can go through
718
00:41:45.090 --> 00:41:47.809
and look and see, again, I have no loyalty to
719
00:41:47.949 --> 00:41:51.159
anybody other than the people that are watching this show
720
00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:53.199
and are getting sighed up by these governments. I don't
721
00:41:53.239 --> 00:41:55.519
make a dime off of any of this stuff. Again,
722
00:41:55.539 --> 00:41:57.000
go look at some of the people that I'm calling
723
00:41:57.079 --> 00:41:59.179
out where their money comes from and what their business
724
00:41:59.260 --> 00:42:02.079
is doing this and whether they really want disclosure, they
725
00:42:02.099 --> 00:42:03.900
want to keep bringing you in and having you pay.
726
00:42:05.090 --> 00:42:09.860
Yeah. And that's what I'm worried about the most is this, this, uh,
727
00:42:10.219 --> 00:42:13.380
like I said, this pay to play and then not
728
00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:19.170
only pay to play, but there, there it's literally, there's
729
00:42:19.230 --> 00:42:24.610
nothing there. There's nothing even to like get you, you're, you, it's,
730
00:42:24.769 --> 00:42:31.860
it's essentially this, like this club of make-believe and, and
731
00:42:33.659 --> 00:42:38.199
like being as if it's almost as if they want
732
00:42:38.280 --> 00:42:41.659
to be closer to the deep state. It's like, when
733
00:42:41.699 --> 00:42:44.519
was that ever a good thing? Like you're telling me
734
00:42:44.579 --> 00:42:50.289
the same people or the same entity that have lied
735
00:42:50.329 --> 00:42:53.230
to us for 90 some odd years about the truth
736
00:42:53.590 --> 00:42:59.469
of reality, UFOs, you know, the paradox, insert, you know,
737
00:42:59.510 --> 00:43:03.989
phenomena here. That same entity is the only one you
738
00:43:04.070 --> 00:43:07.920
trust to tell the truth. That makes no sense to me.
739
00:43:07.949 --> 00:43:11.510
That's my biggest problem with the UFO disclosure movement and
740
00:43:11.530 --> 00:43:13.510
the people behind it. Not necessarily the big names at
741
00:43:13.530 --> 00:43:15.750
the top, but the people that are contributing and feeding
742
00:43:15.789 --> 00:43:19.789
into this stuff. The ones, the UFOX community, like the
743
00:43:20.269 --> 00:43:24.199
ones that are the customers. Again, I have major problems
744
00:43:24.239 --> 00:43:26.980
with how they do things because they're having these arguments
745
00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:29.420
inside of the bubbles that are created for them by
746
00:43:29.440 --> 00:43:32.440
the military industrial complex. How many of the people that
747
00:43:32.659 --> 00:43:34.679
you got, you've been in this world for a while.
748
00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:36.539
How many people have been saying what I'm saying? All
749
00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:39.219
of this information has existed for a long time. It's
750
00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:40.280
one person brought it up.
751
00:43:41.860 --> 00:43:44.539
Not in one sitting.
752
00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:47.619
Yes. It's all little bits and pieces and it's all
753
00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:52.570
clouded in the nonsense of it. It's all clouded in
754
00:43:52.670 --> 00:43:57.969
time travel or some type of... I'm trying to be
755
00:43:58.010 --> 00:43:59.590
as polite as I can because I know that you
756
00:43:59.610 --> 00:44:02.130
have guests that come on the show that I'm probably insulting,
757
00:44:02.150 --> 00:44:05.349
but the reality of the situation is This is a business.
758
00:44:05.630 --> 00:44:09.559
Disclosure is a business before it is anything else. And that's,
759
00:44:10.699 --> 00:44:13.840
I'm probably hurting some pockets by saying what I'm saying today,
760
00:44:14.159 --> 00:44:17.320
but the reality is that people stop feeding this. You
761
00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:20.239
will get your disclosure because your disclosure does not lie
762
00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:22.809
with any of these people. It lies within you digging
763
00:44:22.889 --> 00:44:26.150
through these documents and this research and digging through all
764
00:44:26.170 --> 00:44:27.670
of the things that I'm saying to see if there's
765
00:44:27.730 --> 00:44:30.409
even anything there and taking it even further than I did.
766
00:44:31.130 --> 00:44:31.349
Right.
767
00:44:31.409 --> 00:44:34.309
Right. Like, Are we just going to ignore eugenics? Are
768
00:44:34.329 --> 00:44:37.530
we going to ignore the 100 years of experiments on children,
769
00:44:37.550 --> 00:44:39.110
all the missing children? Are we just going to chalk
770
00:44:39.130 --> 00:44:41.690
that up to child sex trafficking? Or are we going
771
00:44:41.710 --> 00:44:44.739
to question why Hal really wants amnesty and what type
772
00:44:44.780 --> 00:44:48.320
of experiments that they were doing and why? Again, I
773
00:44:48.360 --> 00:44:50.559
know a lot of people shit on Annie Jacobson, but
774
00:44:50.599 --> 00:44:53.960
she wrote that book about Area 51. And I do
775
00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:56.460
think that Annie, in a weird way, is used as
776
00:44:56.519 --> 00:44:58.559
a plant. But one of the things she wrote in
777
00:44:58.599 --> 00:45:01.389
that book at the end about the Roswell incident is
778
00:45:01.429 --> 00:45:05.179
that the contractor from EG & G said they looked
779
00:45:05.219 --> 00:45:07.920
like children and that there were children that were experimented
780
00:45:07.980 --> 00:45:09.719
on and flown in from Russia. And if you look
781
00:45:09.739 --> 00:45:11.579
at some of the things that Mengele was doing and.
782
00:45:11.539 --> 00:45:12.639
You look at some of the things... Mengele, yeah.
783
00:45:12.889 --> 00:45:15.369
Yeah, it's, again, like, I'm not speaking out of turn here,
784
00:45:15.869 --> 00:45:16.099
am I?
785
00:45:16.789 --> 00:45:28.510
Yeah. But Roswell, like, Roswell's so muddy that, you know, I...
786
00:45:29.070 --> 00:45:31.960
And I get what she's saying. I don't even think
787
00:45:32.739 --> 00:45:36.940
That she, I actually kind of like her stuff. The
788
00:45:36.980 --> 00:45:38.739
only thing I didn't, the only book I didn't like
789
00:45:38.780 --> 00:45:41.900
was the Area 51 book that she did.
790
00:45:42.360 --> 00:45:45.440
She's doing some crap for the bio book that she
791
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:47.179
just put out. I see some of that on Twitter,
792
00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:47.840
but here's the thing.
793
00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:50.739
But it reminds you how quick this could all be over.
794
00:45:51.090 --> 00:45:53.929
Yeah. Here's the thing too, that like people get lost
795
00:45:53.989 --> 00:45:56.269
in Area 51 is whether it happened or didn't happen.
796
00:45:56.289 --> 00:45:58.809
But what happened a few weeks later is the National
797
00:45:58.849 --> 00:45:59.889
Security Act was passed.
798
00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:00.969
Yes.
799
00:46:01.389 --> 00:46:03.309
And if you look at it, it's like 9-11 and
800
00:46:03.329 --> 00:46:05.070
the Patriot Act. If you look at the world that
801
00:46:05.110 --> 00:46:07.730
we live in, these events happen and we focus on
802
00:46:07.750 --> 00:46:09.849
the events, but what happens underneath them?
803
00:46:10.550 --> 00:46:20.059
And the proximity to nuclear, right? Because a lot of
804
00:46:20.099 --> 00:46:23.820
people point to that and say, well, clearly someone's interest,
805
00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:29.380
someone meaning aliens, or non-human intelligence is interested in what
806
00:46:29.400 --> 00:46:33.860
we're doing with our, our nuclear program. And it's also like, yeah,
807
00:46:33.880 --> 00:46:36.340
but you know who else was interested? The rest of
808
00:46:36.380 --> 00:46:41.329
the fucking world. Cause they didn't have it. Right. So
809
00:46:41.829 --> 00:46:45.190
you know what I mean? Like everyone's always like, what
810
00:46:45.230 --> 00:46:47.550
are the, what are the odds that Roswell would be
811
00:46:47.869 --> 00:46:53.800
the home of the only nuclear equipped squadrons? I'm like, well,
812
00:46:53.860 --> 00:46:57.800
it's actually, pretty high considering that's what everyone wanted. That is,
813
00:46:58.179 --> 00:47:06.000
that is still to this day, the pinnacle of our, our, uh, uh,
814
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:09.239
our agreement with each other.
815
00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:09.619
Right.
816
00:47:09.639 --> 00:47:11.940
It's like, I'll, I'll point nuke at you. You point
817
00:47:11.980 --> 00:47:14.780
a nuke at me and we won't shoot each other
818
00:47:14.820 --> 00:47:17.619
because we both don't want to die. Right. Like our
819
00:47:17.659 --> 00:47:21.210
society is hinged on that right now. And yeah, you,
820
00:47:21.699 --> 00:47:24.099
Is it crazy to think it all started with Roswell
821
00:47:24.519 --> 00:47:29.610
where there was the only fucking nuclear squadron? I mean,
822
00:47:30.670 --> 00:47:34.099
just to say it's aliens, just, you know, it's a,
823
00:47:34.150 --> 00:47:39.750
it's a big jump. But it's, it's also fascinating.
824
00:47:40.769 --> 00:47:42.969
It is. And I think that's where we get lost
825
00:47:43.090 --> 00:47:45.590
is like, it's so fascinating. A lot of these things
826
00:47:45.659 --> 00:47:50.969
are so fascinating and people it's like the circus, right? Like, they,
827
00:47:51.090 --> 00:47:54.559
they have the exhibits of like world's fattest lady or
828
00:47:54.840 --> 00:47:57.679
whatever they are, the freak shows, because we are fascinated
829
00:47:57.719 --> 00:48:00.219
by things that are not normal. That's just human nature.
830
00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:03.360
So there are people that will exploit that and make
831
00:48:03.440 --> 00:48:05.869
money off of that. And at higher levels, there are
832
00:48:05.929 --> 00:48:09.769
people that are going to use that to, to get
833
00:48:09.829 --> 00:48:13.889
power and to collect resources and to essentially sell those
834
00:48:13.949 --> 00:48:16.469
resources back to a public that doesn't even see it
835
00:48:16.510 --> 00:48:21.250
stolen from under their nose. And we, uh, We've done
836
00:48:21.269 --> 00:48:24.110
a number on ourselves in terms of the last 60,
837
00:48:24.110 --> 00:48:26.949
70 years since Eisenhower gave us that warning about the
838
00:48:26.989 --> 00:48:31.420
military industrial complex and what we've allowed and how we've
839
00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:37.199
essentially created a world economy that's controlled by this military
840
00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:40.460
industrial complex. And you're seeing it everywhere. You're seeing it
841
00:48:40.639 --> 00:48:44.809
with the wars. You're seeing it with the, again, it
842
00:48:44.989 --> 00:48:47.329
seems like these nations are feuding, but yet they're all
843
00:48:47.389 --> 00:48:50.619
part of the same WEF and Bilderberg groups and the
844
00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:53.409
underlying infrastructures of all of the things being in place,
845
00:48:53.449 --> 00:48:55.840
whether it's China's WeChat or all of the things that
846
00:48:55.860 --> 00:48:58.550
we're doing with the Genesis mission and the Donro doctrine,
847
00:48:58.989 --> 00:49:02.429
or what Russia is doing in installing a techno-feudalistic state,
848
00:49:02.829 --> 00:49:06.750
it's all the same thing. It's all essentially going back
849
00:49:06.849 --> 00:49:11.429
to the same place. It's a society that's controlled.
850
00:49:11.449 --> 00:49:15.269
The one thing that's real, right, is this deep state idea,
851
00:49:15.289 --> 00:49:18.769
this idea that there are people, but couldn't you all
852
00:49:20.179 --> 00:49:22.400
call that some sort of like breakaway civilization?
853
00:49:22.900 --> 00:49:24.659
Yeah, I think they're the same thing. And that's why
854
00:49:24.679 --> 00:49:26.400
I kind of laugh when someone like George Ani talks
855
00:49:26.440 --> 00:49:30.280
about it being time-traveling aliens, because it's really just humans
856
00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:32.280
who stole a ton of money and are protecting an
857
00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:35.130
infrastructure that exists that they don't want to let go of.
858
00:49:35.809 --> 00:49:38.130
And I think there are different factions that are feuding
859
00:49:38.329 --> 00:49:44.590
within this idea And again, I, again, the, the, the money,
860
00:49:44.650 --> 00:49:48.659
the pyramid is not connected for the top for a reason. Right.
861
00:49:49.380 --> 00:49:52.760
Can I ask you a clean question?
862
00:49:53.179 --> 00:49:53.400
Sure.
863
00:49:55.119 --> 00:49:59.260
Do you think we are alone in the universe?
864
00:50:01.469 --> 00:50:04.909
I don't know. And I gotta be honest. I don't
865
00:50:04.949 --> 00:50:08.329
think my answer matters whether I believe it or not.
866
00:50:08.389 --> 00:50:12.210
I think that's, kind of a cop-out in a weird way,
867
00:50:12.449 --> 00:50:16.409
but I've done enough psychedelics to where I've had some
868
00:50:16.429 --> 00:50:20.050
conversation and seen some things that I can't dismiss. But
869
00:50:20.090 --> 00:50:21.829
at the same time, I don't know whether it was
870
00:50:21.869 --> 00:50:24.130
a creation of my own consciousness or if there's some
871
00:50:24.170 --> 00:50:30.610
type of subconscious agent that runs to where we're essentially
872
00:50:30.710 --> 00:50:37.480
creating this world for ourselves inside of our mind, our consciousness,
873
00:50:37.500 --> 00:50:38.960
or whatever that is. And then I had this weird
874
00:50:38.980 --> 00:50:42.920
thought the other day You know, like what if when
875
00:50:42.960 --> 00:50:46.659
you're tripping or you take something like a smoke DMT,
876
00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:50.730
what if instead of like traveling off into some world
877
00:50:50.750 --> 00:50:54.210
that you're actually traveling into like your own body that
878
00:50:54.250 --> 00:50:57.150
like you're communicating with like things that are inside of you,
879
00:50:57.190 --> 00:50:59.769
whether it be cells or because we don't really have
880
00:50:59.789 --> 00:51:01.630
an understanding of what that is. Who's to say that
881
00:51:01.670 --> 00:51:07.530
that's not like some DMT mantis or. And again, this
882
00:51:07.670 --> 00:51:10.800
this stuff like. I don't know. I don't have answers.
883
00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:13.000
I'm an idiot in his garage sitting in a boxing
884
00:51:13.039 --> 00:51:14.860
ring who spent the last 10 years getting punched in
885
00:51:14.900 --> 00:51:17.659
the face, which makes all of the things that I've
886
00:51:17.699 --> 00:51:21.780
said throughout this entire interview even more interesting because anybody
887
00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:25.239
can find this information. It's not like I've done something
888
00:51:25.300 --> 00:51:28.929
incredible here. One thing we haven't talked about yet going
889
00:51:29.010 --> 00:51:31.150
to whether we're alone or not is the fact that
890
00:51:31.750 --> 00:51:37.449
frequencies and electromagnetic waves can produce sounds and things inside
891
00:51:37.489 --> 00:51:40.860
of our brains that may resemble beings and like, who
892
00:51:40.889 --> 00:51:44.019
knows what any of this stuff is. But I don't
893
00:51:44.079 --> 00:51:47.480
think the people selling us that they know, know any
894
00:51:47.519 --> 00:51:49.460
better than anything that I just said. And I'm not
895
00:51:49.500 --> 00:51:52.579
telling you anything. And that's kind of where my beef is,
896
00:51:52.619 --> 00:51:54.530
if that makes any sense. I know it's a very
897
00:51:54.590 --> 00:51:55.949
long answer to work around.
898
00:51:55.969 --> 00:51:57.829
Not really.
899
00:51:58.050 --> 00:51:58.489
It's good.
900
00:51:58.610 --> 00:51:59.150
It's good.
901
00:52:01.730 --> 00:52:07.730
So you use AI for research, legwork, and research. you know,
902
00:52:07.789 --> 00:52:12.239
plain English, uh, summaries. Uh, but you say the AI
903
00:52:12.300 --> 00:52:14.739
does not make the predictions and everything is kept on
904
00:52:14.780 --> 00:52:18.940
a leash. Uh, what specific failure modes did you hit
905
00:52:19.420 --> 00:52:23.159
with the models and what safeguards did you build into
906
00:52:23.219 --> 00:52:27.199
your engine? Uh, that doesn't just become a high speed,
907
00:52:27.300 --> 00:52:29.269
you know, confirmation bias machine.
908
00:52:29.969 --> 00:52:32.449
Well, I think, um, the first thing I would say
909
00:52:32.469 --> 00:52:35.150
to anybody who has any skepticism on that is go
910
00:52:35.170 --> 00:52:40.030
to mo catchups.ai.com. and see how I discuss artificial intelligence
911
00:52:40.090 --> 00:52:43.610
and how I discuss sandboxing these LLMs. Most of your
912
00:52:43.650 --> 00:52:47.929
chatbots are retarded. They're epistemically captured. They are shaped and
913
00:52:48.070 --> 00:52:51.289
framed in a way by the people who program them
914
00:52:51.389 --> 00:52:54.409
that keep information away from the general public. And it's
915
00:52:54.449 --> 00:52:57.329
not that the machines are hiding information from you. It's
916
00:52:57.369 --> 00:53:00.550
that they are programmed to answer with mainstream sources. And
917
00:53:00.570 --> 00:53:03.869
unless you actually know what you're asking the machine, you
918
00:53:03.929 --> 00:53:06.889
are going to get mainstream slop back. I compare them
919
00:53:06.929 --> 00:53:09.230
to Eric Weinstein. I wrote a whole article that like
920
00:53:09.489 --> 00:53:12.250
talking to a chatbot is basically like talking to Eric Weinstein.
921
00:53:12.269 --> 00:53:14.690
They're the same thing. Like every interview I've ever seen
922
00:53:14.750 --> 00:53:17.489
him in is basically like looking at a chatbot. And
923
00:53:17.510 --> 00:53:19.829
then I saw in an interview, he actually said that
924
00:53:19.889 --> 00:53:21.590
like he's an LLM. And I'm like, yeah, you are.
925
00:53:21.630 --> 00:53:25.780
You're a dumbass. Just like these machines. So the way
926
00:53:25.800 --> 00:53:29.019
that I gate them essentially is I sandbox the shit
927
00:53:29.059 --> 00:53:31.679
out of them. I fact check everything that comes back
928
00:53:31.760 --> 00:53:34.190
from them. I allow them to do a lot of work,
929
00:53:34.210 --> 00:53:37.489
but none of it goes unchecked. And one of the
930
00:53:37.530 --> 00:53:39.050
things I want to stress, by the way, is the
931
00:53:39.090 --> 00:53:43.929
predictions and scoring on the engine are created. Originally, they
932
00:53:43.949 --> 00:53:47.860
were kind of like the main selling point of the engine.
933
00:53:48.679 --> 00:53:51.840
And they were something that I thought would be a
934
00:53:53.400 --> 00:53:56.099
way to like draw people into this because people are,
935
00:53:57.039 --> 00:53:59.219
they love an Oracle, like look at Cliff High. People
936
00:53:59.260 --> 00:54:04.570
love him for that reason. But I mean, like it's psychohistory.
937
00:54:04.590 --> 00:54:07.989
What psychohistory is, is basically like you can predict crowds
938
00:54:08.050 --> 00:54:10.530
of people, but you can't predict outliers. You can't predict
939
00:54:10.650 --> 00:54:14.710
one person. If one person is unpredictable and decides to
940
00:54:14.730 --> 00:54:17.469
go batshit crazy on the entire system, just like I'm doing,
941
00:54:17.510 --> 00:54:20.360
that can't be predicted. You can't predict me. I can't
942
00:54:20.389 --> 00:54:23.320
predict you in the audience. Like none of us can
943
00:54:23.360 --> 00:54:26.280
predict the individual person, but we can predict groups because
944
00:54:27.699 --> 00:54:29.980
that's how all of this works. That's how algorithms work.
945
00:54:30.530 --> 00:54:34.260
And we're all feeding into that, which is, again, we
946
00:54:34.280 --> 00:54:36.400
start critically thinking, we stop feeding the algorithms.
947
00:54:37.159 --> 00:54:41.019
Right. Wasn't that Asimov's idea that you can't predict one person,
948
00:54:41.079 --> 00:54:42.099
but you can predict billions?
949
00:54:42.360 --> 00:54:43.920
That's exactly where I got the idea from.
950
00:54:44.639 --> 00:54:50.059
That's essentially, like you look at like Polymarket and Kalshi, right?
951
00:54:50.400 --> 00:54:57.949
And these programs, they're working on that same thing.
952
00:54:59.119 --> 00:55:01.739
To a certain extent. I think a lot of those systems, really,
953
00:55:01.780 --> 00:55:05.780
their underlying goal is the data that they're collecting more
954
00:55:05.840 --> 00:55:08.400
so than even making money off of the betting.
955
00:55:09.840 --> 00:55:12.300
Did you know that DARPA tried to fucking put this
956
00:55:12.420 --> 00:55:13.139
out years ago?
957
00:55:13.699 --> 00:55:20.340
Yeah, dude. So not just this, but DARPA is Facebook.
958
00:55:21.380 --> 00:55:25.059
The In-Q-Tel group created Palantir and a few other things
959
00:55:25.079 --> 00:55:27.849
that are tied into the infrastructure of our government. Musk
960
00:55:27.869 --> 00:55:32.159
is basically fully subsidized by government contracts. So like a
961
00:55:32.199 --> 00:55:34.360
lot of the things that our government is using, the
962
00:55:34.420 --> 00:55:37.559
infrastructures that have been built were created a hundred years
963
00:55:37.619 --> 00:55:40.300
ago with something called technocracy Inc. That was created by
964
00:55:40.320 --> 00:55:42.380
a guy named Howard Scott and another guy named M
965
00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:45.769
King Hubbard, who went on to help create the limit
966
00:55:45.809 --> 00:55:49.849
of growth with the club of Rome and these infrastructures, the,
967
00:55:50.190 --> 00:55:54.710
the technocracy Inc. Elon Musk, grandpa was a part of that. And,
968
00:55:55.889 --> 00:55:59.250
This is basically if you go look at how they
969
00:55:59.909 --> 00:56:03.190
they wanted to to do something social credit score, basically
970
00:56:04.309 --> 00:56:07.329
very similar to WeChat and how WeChat runs. So, again,
971
00:56:07.389 --> 00:56:10.110
when I'm talking about the entire world kind of forming
972
00:56:10.170 --> 00:56:13.300
into the same thing, it's really this technocracy ink slash
973
00:56:13.360 --> 00:56:18.280
club of Rome version of what the people at the
974
00:56:18.320 --> 00:56:21.559
top of this military industrial complex view the world to
975
00:56:21.599 --> 00:56:23.760
be and what they want to shape it into. And
976
00:56:23.820 --> 00:56:25.239
the rest of us are just going to be steered
977
00:56:25.260 --> 00:56:25.639
like cattle.
978
00:56:26.159 --> 00:56:26.380
Right?
979
00:56:26.840 --> 00:56:29.440
Unless we do something about it. Unless we stop buying
980
00:56:29.480 --> 00:56:33.340
into the bullshit. And again, I question how much of
981
00:56:33.380 --> 00:56:36.659
your audience has even heard arguments like this because people
982
00:56:36.719 --> 00:56:37.599
aren't talking about it.
983
00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:43.760
Well, that's why I brought you. That's why I brought you.
984
00:56:45.539 --> 00:56:50.480
I'm famously known to... Not famous. I don't know why
985
00:56:50.519 --> 00:56:55.130
I said that. I'm known for... I'll have a I'll
986
00:56:55.349 --> 00:56:58.869
do a podcast with someone who tells me they're a werewolf. Like,
987
00:56:58.889 --> 00:57:00.889
you know what I mean? I'll, I'll, I'll continue to
988
00:57:00.949 --> 00:57:01.750
ask them questions.
989
00:57:02.190 --> 00:57:04.110
That would be a great time to transform if I could,
990
00:57:04.130 --> 00:57:07.829
but nothing happened.
991
00:57:08.690 --> 00:57:08.929
Right.
992
00:57:09.230 --> 00:57:14.250
But like, I'm, I, I, I like the notion of
993
00:57:14.309 --> 00:57:17.829
being able to have a conversation with anybody and, and
994
00:57:17.929 --> 00:57:21.389
kind of, you know, essentially what I do is I
995
00:57:21.409 --> 00:57:26.050
like to, all we have is our own experiences.
996
00:57:26.130 --> 00:57:26.389
Right.
997
00:57:26.969 --> 00:57:29.199
And the only way that we can relay those or
998
00:57:29.619 --> 00:57:33.739
pass those on to other people is in the form of, uh,
999
00:57:34.219 --> 00:57:37.860
opposing some sort of problem. Um, you know, I can
1000
00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:42.179
tell you it's raining outside. Right. But until you directly
1001
00:57:42.300 --> 00:57:46.949
apprehend it for yourself, um, you know, you're going off
1002
00:57:47.010 --> 00:57:50.769
of my, the trust you have in, in me. Right. So, um,
1003
00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:53.900
You know, what I try to do is elicit these
1004
00:57:53.960 --> 00:57:59.159
discussions and give the problem to the audience, right? And
1005
00:57:59.340 --> 00:58:03.340
allow them to directly apprehend it for themselves, right? Because again,
1006
00:58:03.360 --> 00:58:06.269
I can say one plus one equals two, but until
1007
00:58:06.309 --> 00:58:11.269
you fundamentally know how one and one come together to
1008
00:58:11.630 --> 00:58:17.769
create two, you're going off of my word. Direct apprehension
1009
00:58:17.869 --> 00:58:20.530
is what I'm in the business of, is giving people.
1010
00:58:21.230 --> 00:58:24.869
I allow them to directly apprehend what they need to
1011
00:58:25.030 --> 00:58:28.929
or what they want to from each guest. And I
1012
00:58:28.969 --> 00:58:32.840
like that. I like that avenue. And with that being said,
1013
00:58:32.860 --> 00:58:35.719
I'm okay with you. Are you a religious person?
1014
00:58:36.400 --> 00:58:36.699
No.
1015
00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:39.500
And if I came off as that, I'm very surprised.
1016
00:58:40.260 --> 00:58:43.280
I tend to believe, again, that we were created by
1017
00:58:43.340 --> 00:58:47.940
something that didn't tell us anything. And regardless of whatever
1018
00:58:48.019 --> 00:58:50.860
book you believe in, it was still written by some dude.
1019
00:58:52.119 --> 00:58:53.059
And men are fallible.
1020
00:58:54.659 --> 00:58:57.010
Yeah. You know, I want to touch on something that
1021
00:58:57.030 --> 00:59:00.489
you said before you were talking about, like, the sky raining,
1022
00:59:00.510 --> 00:59:02.690
people believing that. Do you know anything about Gallum theory?
1023
00:59:03.989 --> 00:59:04.170
No.
1024
00:59:04.929 --> 00:59:09.929
So Gallum theory is, or excuse me, Gallum effect. The
1025
00:59:09.980 --> 00:59:12.940
gallum effect better said so what gallum effect is i'm
1026
00:59:13.239 --> 00:59:15.159
just going to use this example because it's easy for
1027
00:59:15.179 --> 00:59:17.219
me and i remember it if there are a hundred
1028
00:59:17.260 --> 00:59:20.510
people in the room right and you want to tell
1029
00:59:20.610 --> 00:59:22.929
everyone in that room that the sky is green not
1030
00:59:23.030 --> 00:59:26.909
blue You need to be loud enough, long enough, and
1031
00:59:26.969 --> 00:59:29.670
get somewhere between 10 and 20 of those people in
1032
00:59:29.710 --> 00:59:31.789
that room to start saying the same thing and be
1033
00:59:31.849 --> 00:59:35.449
loud enough, long enough with you. And what that does, again,
1034
00:59:35.690 --> 00:59:40.349
it creates something in the brain psychologically that starts turning people.
1035
00:59:40.389 --> 00:59:42.050
And eventually, over the course of time, the rest of
1036
00:59:42.090 --> 00:59:44.519
the room will start saying that the sky is green
1037
00:59:44.699 --> 00:59:46.320
until they actually go outside and see the sky is
1038
00:59:46.360 --> 00:59:51.849
blue for themselves. So this is physics, just simple physics.
1039
00:59:51.889 --> 00:59:53.849
And this type of math is being used against the
1040
00:59:53.869 --> 00:59:58.630
American public. And it's being used, again, it's really at large.
1041
00:59:58.829 --> 01:00:02.170
The American public kind of controls the world. We're the
1042
01:00:02.210 --> 01:00:07.070
hub of the world, right? So you're looking at, again,
1043
01:00:07.849 --> 01:00:10.929
loud enough, long enough with a lot of bots and
1044
01:00:11.510 --> 01:00:17.719
fake internet. I know like, what is it? deep internet
1045
01:00:17.739 --> 01:00:20.579
theory or something like that. I'm slipping my mind. So
1046
01:00:20.599 --> 01:00:25.099
I apologize. But half of the internet is fake or
1047
01:00:25.139 --> 01:00:26.800
over half of the internet, over half of the people
1048
01:00:26.840 --> 01:00:28.440
talking in the internet are fake. So over half of
1049
01:00:28.460 --> 01:00:31.400
the people that are shaping that internet theory. Yeah, there
1050
01:00:31.420 --> 01:00:33.440
you go. So over half of the people that are
1051
01:00:33.460 --> 01:00:36.900
shaping the narrative essentially are fake. So who are behind
1052
01:00:36.920 --> 01:00:39.340
those bots? We're controlling them. And when you start looking
1053
01:00:39.380 --> 01:00:41.639
into that, again, it starts getting into the military industrial
1054
01:00:41.679 --> 01:00:44.429
complex because you're looking at who owns the apps that
1055
01:00:44.469 --> 01:00:47.000
we all use and where were they created? Who are
1056
01:00:47.019 --> 01:00:51.059
they tied to? So again, it's, it all goes back
1057
01:00:51.099 --> 01:00:55.900
to the same place, whether it's AI, whether it's UFO disclosure,
1058
01:00:56.039 --> 01:00:59.300
whether it's really anything that is used as a human
1059
01:00:59.340 --> 01:01:01.659
power construct goes back to the same exact place.
1060
01:01:03.090 --> 01:01:06.110
And do you think that they only tend, I mean,
1061
01:01:06.150 --> 01:01:10.469
it is interesting that they tend to use, you only
1062
01:01:10.530 --> 01:01:14.269
get funding for fear. You don't get it with, peace
1063
01:01:14.329 --> 01:01:20.469
in our time, right? When you get defense spending, I mean,
1064
01:01:20.510 --> 01:01:28.320
it's literally called defense spending, right? You're anticipating an attack
1065
01:01:29.179 --> 01:01:33.199
or some sort of offensive measure, and you're spending money
1066
01:01:33.739 --> 01:01:39.010
to defend against it, regardless of whether it happens or not.
1067
01:01:40.289 --> 01:01:46.250
With UFOs and non-human intelligence, Guys like Elizondo, even though
1068
01:01:46.269 --> 01:01:48.909
they say that they that this is not what they think,
1069
01:01:49.309 --> 01:01:52.510
it's just how they were programmed in the military is
1070
01:01:52.570 --> 01:01:56.340
to like if you don't know something's intention, you have
1071
01:01:56.380 --> 01:02:01.139
to take it as a potential threat. While I do agree,
1072
01:02:01.159 --> 01:02:06.260
I don't think posing the UFO narrative as a threat
1073
01:02:07.099 --> 01:02:12.349
is is. I don't think it benefits anyone except the
1074
01:02:12.389 --> 01:02:16.230
system that is going to eventually spin it and say,
1075
01:02:16.309 --> 01:02:20.860
we need money now to protect against this intergalactic threat, right?
1076
01:02:21.380 --> 01:02:26.340
It's both ways. You're selling the problem and then providing
1077
01:02:26.380 --> 01:02:29.119
the answer and then creating another problem off of that
1078
01:02:29.239 --> 01:02:31.760
answer and then selling that back. It's why I get
1079
01:02:31.800 --> 01:02:34.320
a kick out of like, All of the people who
1080
01:02:34.380 --> 01:02:40.389
are testing these artificial intelligence machines and these LLMs claiming
1081
01:02:40.429 --> 01:02:43.389
that they're jailbreaking them and this model is going to
1082
01:02:43.409 --> 01:02:45.070
be better and that model is going to be better.
1083
01:02:45.110 --> 01:02:47.510
It's just they're just selling you absolute nonsense for a
1084
01:02:47.550 --> 01:02:50.639
problem that they can't fix. Alignment can't be fixed. That's
1085
01:02:50.679 --> 01:02:54.960
just physics. And it's the same thing with the military contract.
1086
01:02:55.000 --> 01:02:57.679
If you don't have an answer to the problem, you
1087
01:02:57.719 --> 01:03:01.400
can continue to sell nonsense. And you can create problems
1088
01:03:01.460 --> 01:03:03.480
and sell the answers and create the problems and sell
1089
01:03:03.500 --> 01:03:07.000
the answers because you're never addressing the underlying root. And
1090
01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:10.820
the underlying root of disclosure is the fact that we
1091
01:03:10.880 --> 01:03:13.159
don't have an answer for what created us. We don't
1092
01:03:13.179 --> 01:03:19.170
have an answer for a lot of the phenomenon that
1093
01:03:19.789 --> 01:03:22.389
has taken place over the last 6,000 years. And everything
1094
01:03:23.460 --> 01:03:26.139
bit of writing that we have over the last 6,000
1095
01:03:26.139 --> 01:03:28.920
years is someone essentially trying to sell that answer back
1096
01:03:28.960 --> 01:03:32.539
to people and it being shaped into a power construct
1097
01:03:32.760 --> 01:03:36.800
that creates power dynamics that most people don't even realize
1098
01:03:36.840 --> 01:03:37.409
they live under.
1099
01:03:39.570 --> 01:03:47.710
Yeah. Honestly, the idea of just simply expecting disclosure to
1100
01:03:47.889 --> 01:03:54.500
come from the government itself is insane. It's laughable. Yeah.
1101
01:03:54.659 --> 01:03:57.579
It just doesn't make any sense. And then your disclosure
1102
01:03:57.639 --> 01:04:02.690
movement leaders are all, they're all tied to the government. Again,
1103
01:04:02.730 --> 01:04:05.610
I'm sorry about your buddy grant, but like, where's he
1104
01:04:05.889 --> 01:04:08.329
make his money? Like, where's he make his money? All
1105
01:04:08.349 --> 01:04:10.690
of it's, it's all of them though. It's not just him. He's,
1106
01:04:10.730 --> 01:04:12.090
he's like, he's a micro.
1107
01:04:12.130 --> 01:04:15.559
He's a cog in everybody. Yeah. A cog in a machine,
1108
01:04:15.599 --> 01:04:16.800
if you will. Yeah.
1109
01:04:16.880 --> 01:04:18.920
And again, you replace him. Another one comes in and
1110
01:04:18.940 --> 01:04:21.340
he's like the, the such a small guy, but like,
1111
01:04:21.650 --> 01:04:24.570
Even you replace someone like... What about like Nick West?
1112
01:04:25.210 --> 01:04:26.730
It's just another person plugs in.
1113
01:04:27.750 --> 01:04:30.280
What about guys like Nick West who are debunking it?
1114
01:04:30.820 --> 01:04:34.539
Do you think that both sides are funded for the
1115
01:04:34.599 --> 01:04:37.199
illusion of a battle?
1116
01:04:37.960 --> 01:04:39.639
What is Nick West really debunked?
1117
01:04:41.019 --> 01:04:43.500
I would say zero.
1118
01:04:44.239 --> 01:04:46.639
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's like there's never-ending questions.
1119
01:04:47.079 --> 01:04:49.340
There's never-ending questions. And a lot of these things like,
1120
01:04:49.889 --> 01:04:51.530
We live in a day and age of deep fakes
1121
01:04:51.570 --> 01:04:54.429
where it's so hard to tell what is what anymore.
1122
01:04:54.469 --> 01:04:57.269
And who's to say that this technology hasn't existed for
1123
01:04:57.269 --> 01:05:01.440
20 or 30 years, 40 years, 50 years. Artificial intelligence
1124
01:05:01.619 --> 01:05:04.159
is almost 50 or 60 years old. I mean, does
1125
01:05:04.179 --> 01:05:08.000
your audience know anything about Redfather? No. And about Bell Labs?
1126
01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:09.280
Yeah.
1127
01:05:09.320 --> 01:05:12.190
I mean, they had an artificial intelligence. They basically had
1128
01:05:12.210 --> 01:05:15.880
an LLM running at Bell Labs called Redfather. in the 70s.
1129
01:05:16.219 --> 01:05:19.019
And I know there was one before that that existed.
1130
01:05:19.079 --> 01:05:22.460
And again, a lot of this information is just... I'm
1131
01:05:22.519 --> 01:05:24.699
only one man. Again, I'm an idiot in a boxing
1132
01:05:24.739 --> 01:05:26.769
ring who's been punching his head in the head for
1133
01:05:26.789 --> 01:05:28.510
the last 10 or 15 years. There's a lot of
1134
01:05:28.530 --> 01:05:32.010
information that's slipping my mind. But there has been multiple
1135
01:05:32.150 --> 01:05:36.030
artificial intelligence projects other than Red Father that have existed.
1136
01:05:36.050 --> 01:05:39.730
So we've had this technology for a long, long, long time.
1137
01:05:40.250 --> 01:05:46.699
And I question how much of this disclosure movement and
1138
01:05:46.739 --> 01:05:50.659
things tied to it are directly involved with artificial intelligence
1139
01:05:50.699 --> 01:05:53.840
and how many of the videos or things that we've
1140
01:05:53.929 --> 01:05:56.510
seen have been tests of that technology itself.
1141
01:05:57.429 --> 01:05:58.809
Well, and that's the kind of what I was going
1142
01:05:58.829 --> 01:06:03.110
to bring up to you next is, so I've had
1143
01:06:03.190 --> 01:06:04.150
my own sighting.
1144
01:06:05.289 --> 01:06:05.489
Yes.
1145
01:06:05.690 --> 01:06:10.449
You know, when I was very young, like 12 or 18,
1146
01:06:10.880 --> 01:06:16.119
I don't know the exact year, but I'd say between
1147
01:06:16.119 --> 01:06:22.019
11 and 12. Because 13 is like eighth grade, I believe.
1148
01:06:22.519 --> 01:06:27.000
So there's no way I was that old. So like
1149
01:06:27.159 --> 01:06:32.380
fifth or sixth grade, maybe even 10. I'm not sure.
1150
01:06:32.760 --> 01:06:39.980
But dude, daylight, broad daylight on a weekday. Cause I
1151
01:06:40.019 --> 01:06:42.500
was supposed to be at school. My mom asked me
1152
01:06:42.840 --> 01:06:45.820
to stay home because she would always like, she, she
1153
01:06:45.840 --> 01:06:49.210
was a single mom. And, uh, you know, I've told
1154
01:06:49.250 --> 01:06:53.170
this story on the show, of course, thousand times, but, um, she,
1155
01:06:53.309 --> 01:06:55.989
she would do this thing. It was like winning the
1156
01:06:56.030 --> 01:06:59.210
lottery for a kid. Right. Every once in a while,
1157
01:06:59.250 --> 01:07:01.309
my mom would just be like, she would just choose
1158
01:07:01.349 --> 01:07:04.230
a kid to stay home. She would offer, she'd be like,
1159
01:07:04.250 --> 01:07:06.210
do you want to stay home today? Like she just
1160
01:07:06.230 --> 01:07:07.380
wanted company. Right.
1161
01:07:07.409 --> 01:07:07.820
Very cool.
1162
01:07:08.789 --> 01:07:12.909
Um, yeah, but you know, whenever we weren't asking questions, like, no,
1163
01:07:12.989 --> 01:07:14.650
I wasn't going to be like, mom, why do you
1164
01:07:14.670 --> 01:07:17.309
let us stay home every, you know, like once every
1165
01:07:17.389 --> 01:07:20.510
six months, like what's up with that? You know, you
1166
01:07:20.550 --> 01:07:23.219
don't challenge that. You, you, you keep that.
1167
01:07:23.599 --> 01:07:25.320
No, but I'm not enough to stupid.
1168
01:07:25.940 --> 01:07:26.199
Yes.
1169
01:07:26.760 --> 01:07:27.860
And I probably would have.
1170
01:07:28.840 --> 01:07:32.420
And, and honestly, there were times where we would say, no,
1171
01:07:32.639 --> 01:07:35.820
I want to go to school. Um, and she'd be like,
1172
01:07:35.840 --> 01:07:36.219
all right, cool.
1173
01:07:36.239 --> 01:07:36.940
All right.
1174
01:07:37.019 --> 01:07:39.900
Well, you know, see when you get home. And, you know,
1175
01:07:39.920 --> 01:07:42.420
it's funny is I would trade every day of school.
1176
01:07:44.099 --> 01:07:50.699
Did you have one more day with her? Unfortunately, I can't. But,
1177
01:07:51.940 --> 01:07:55.929
you know, and to bridge a gap here, I think
1178
01:07:56.239 --> 01:08:01.469
ufology and the phenomena in the world. They can be
1179
01:08:01.530 --> 01:08:06.389
tethered back to our the same things that religion tap on.
1180
01:08:06.909 --> 01:08:07.170
Right.
1181
01:08:08.329 --> 01:08:08.510
That.
1182
01:08:10.309 --> 01:08:16.130
That almost need to focus on something that's greater than
1183
01:08:16.170 --> 01:08:20.069
yourself in order to cope with the idea that there's
1184
01:08:20.250 --> 01:08:24.609
only a limited amount of time that we have on earth, right?
1185
01:08:25.229 --> 01:08:29.489
How we cope with death is by pretending, or not pretending,
1186
01:08:29.529 --> 01:08:34.789
but believing in heaven, right? Believing there's an afterlife, believing
1187
01:08:34.829 --> 01:08:39.829
there's life after death. This is how you also... could
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01:08:39.930 --> 01:08:44.909
tighten in and loosen grips on society if you could
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01:08:44.989 --> 01:08:52.020
control that element of a person. And in my opinion,
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01:08:52.420 --> 01:08:56.489
the church is just that. It's the first three-letter agency.
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01:08:57.149 --> 01:09:01.579
It is the church. in my opinion. But going back
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01:09:01.619 --> 01:09:05.739
to daylight sighting, so I saw this thing, treetop level, oscillating.
1193
01:09:06.659 --> 01:09:11.130
So spinning, but also moving in a linear east to west,
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01:09:11.210 --> 01:09:14.630
but to me, it came over my head south to north.
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01:09:15.289 --> 01:09:20.409
Gunmetal gray, classic disc sighting. made no noise. I grew
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01:09:20.470 --> 01:09:21.810
up next to an air force base.
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01:09:22.770 --> 01:09:23.890
I know I was going to ask.
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01:09:24.770 --> 01:09:31.250
Yeah. I also grew up next to, uh, a Raytheon, um, uh,
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01:09:31.670 --> 01:09:37.510
like there was a big Raytheon headquarters. Um, that was
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01:09:37.630 --> 01:09:42.539
also right near where I grew up. Uh, so, you know,
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01:09:44.060 --> 01:09:46.779
was it human? Is that what you think? What I
1202
01:09:46.840 --> 01:09:47.600
saw was human.
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01:09:48.119 --> 01:09:49.699
I don't know. I don't know that I have any answers.
1204
01:09:49.739 --> 01:09:52.420
I would probably lean that way. I saw something when
1205
01:09:52.439 --> 01:09:54.800
I was 19, but I was also blackout drunk and
1206
01:09:54.840 --> 01:09:58.439
I lived near Newburgh Air Force Base in New York.
1207
01:09:59.090 --> 01:10:01.630
So again, you start putting two to two together when
1208
01:10:01.649 --> 01:10:03.859
you start sobering up. And at the time I was,
1209
01:10:03.869 --> 01:10:05.350
I don't know if you're familiar with Absinthe. I was
1210
01:10:05.369 --> 01:10:06.050
drinking Absinthe.
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01:10:06.649 --> 01:10:08.149
Oh God damn.
1212
01:10:08.189 --> 01:10:08.550
Yeah.
1213
01:10:08.729 --> 01:10:09.989
So my mom, when I was 19.
1214
01:10:09.989 --> 01:10:12.189
That is not a reliable memory, buddy.
1215
01:10:12.710 --> 01:10:15.649
No, that's why I like, again, it's, but I've also like.
1216
01:10:15.829 --> 01:10:19.189
Mine, mine, dude, I was, sober as a fucking goat.
1217
01:10:19.229 --> 01:10:21.880
I was like 10 years old. And, and I, and
1218
01:10:21.939 --> 01:10:24.939
I grew up around, you know, uh, an air force
1219
01:10:25.020 --> 01:10:28.000
base after nine 11. I was very, very, and I
1220
01:10:28.039 --> 01:10:31.239
became fascinated with things that could fly. This thing was
1221
01:10:31.300 --> 01:10:33.159
a circle. It should not have flown.
1222
01:10:33.180 --> 01:10:35.560
Yeah. And that's the thing is like, I don't, I
1223
01:10:35.560 --> 01:10:38.789
don't want to come on here and discredit like your
1224
01:10:38.829 --> 01:10:40.989
experience or anyone else's experience. There are a lot of
1225
01:10:41.010 --> 01:10:43.529
people who've been abducted and I think certainly went through
1226
01:10:43.609 --> 01:10:47.979
some real things. Here's the things that I question. is
1227
01:10:48.279 --> 01:10:52.439
again whether that machine was human whether that was a
1228
01:10:52.510 --> 01:10:54.630
drone i don't know how many drones you've seen um
1229
01:10:55.050 --> 01:10:58.069
but how similar the movement was to what we see
1230
01:10:58.130 --> 01:11:00.590
as drones now and then again uh when it goes
1231
01:11:00.649 --> 01:11:02.510
back to like people who've been abducted like there are
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01:11:02.550 --> 01:11:07.800
experiments that you can do that electromagnetics uh the fray
1233
01:11:07.840 --> 01:11:10.260
effect in terms of like in the 60s they were
1234
01:11:10.300 --> 01:11:13.060
able to implant like clicking and stuff like that and
1235
01:11:13.079 --> 01:11:16.659
then there were the the stories of like the the
1236
01:11:17.159 --> 01:11:19.060
the masks that people wore in Vietnam.
1237
01:11:20.619 --> 01:11:25.239
So sorry, I was, I didn't, uh, one of my,
1238
01:11:25.739 --> 01:11:29.800
another podcaster, uh, says that I got fisted by a gray.
1239
01:11:29.819 --> 01:11:31.779
So I just want to take this moment to say,
1240
01:11:31.840 --> 01:11:36.020
fuck you, Vito. Uh, I did absolutely never have been
1241
01:11:36.060 --> 01:11:37.039
fisted by a gray.
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01:11:38.359 --> 01:11:40.680
If you want to talk about something that would that, like,
1243
01:11:40.720 --> 01:11:43.760
if that's on video, there's your disclosure. I officially believe
1244
01:11:43.779 --> 01:11:45.699
now it's like, how do you debunk that? Right.
1245
01:11:47.069 --> 01:11:47.369
Right.
1246
01:11:47.930 --> 01:11:52.739
If someone's working you like a Muppet, that's disclosure. That's that's.
1247
01:11:56.220 --> 01:11:57.100
I'm sorry, I lost my.
1248
01:11:58.300 --> 01:12:01.819
Yeah, that's why they stopped the abduction program, because everyone's
1249
01:12:01.840 --> 01:12:04.180
got a fucking camera and they don't want them to
1250
01:12:04.220 --> 01:12:05.560
film it like a porn now.
1251
01:12:06.029 --> 01:12:09.350
Well, that's also something that's funny, too, is like the
1252
01:12:09.409 --> 01:12:12.630
abduction stopped happening the second that the phone cameras came out. Right.
1253
01:12:13.050 --> 01:12:17.489
They're around a similar time that Polaroid handheld cameras became
1254
01:12:18.100 --> 01:12:20.239
something that was cheap and common to have.
1255
01:12:20.260 --> 01:12:21.079
Readily available.
1256
01:12:22.000 --> 01:12:25.000
Yeah. Again, I don't have answers for all this stuff.
1257
01:12:25.060 --> 01:12:31.020
Even sightings dropped. Sightings went from nuts and bolts craft
1258
01:12:31.560 --> 01:12:36.399
to more like orbs and lights over the period of
1259
01:12:36.479 --> 01:12:43.060
time when the cell phone camera developed. became readily available
1260
01:12:43.140 --> 01:12:46.319
and it is that is very sketchy do.
1261
01:12:46.279 --> 01:12:48.960
You remember a few years ago there was an incident
1262
01:12:48.979 --> 01:12:52.000
in peru where there was a girl who basically got
1263
01:12:52.060 --> 01:12:55.600
picked up by this being and on a hoverboard.
1264
01:12:54.960 --> 01:12:57.279
The skin peeler thing.
1265
01:12:57.430 --> 01:12:59.890
Yeah and then it turns out that those were actually
1266
01:12:59.899 --> 01:13:03.069
uh like connected to the government and now you like
1267
01:13:03.090 --> 01:13:05.210
flash forward three or four years you can go find
1268
01:13:05.270 --> 01:13:08.310
videos of the exact boards that were being used then
1269
01:13:09.090 --> 01:13:12.630
and i believe if i'm Correct. I think they're readily available.
1270
01:13:13.090 --> 01:13:15.909
The public can buy one or put a down payment
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01:13:15.970 --> 01:13:18.029
on one. I don't know. Oh, it's not like must
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01:13:18.130 --> 01:13:19.670
roadster where you put a down payment on it.
1273
01:13:19.670 --> 01:13:20.369
Well, hold on.
1274
01:13:20.430 --> 01:13:20.930
Get anything.
1275
01:13:21.829 --> 01:13:27.550
Hold on. If that's human beings, we still have a
1276
01:13:27.630 --> 01:13:28.590
fucking problem.
1277
01:13:30.350 --> 01:13:32.510
I would say it's a bigger problem. Yeah.
1278
01:13:33.170 --> 01:13:37.029
We have a problem because there we talk about abduction.
1279
01:13:37.909 --> 01:13:39.100
Have you ever heard of my labs?
1280
01:13:40.739 --> 01:13:41.579
No.
1281
01:13:41.619 --> 01:13:47.050
Military abduction. Okay. So what the question now, you don't
1282
01:13:47.090 --> 01:13:51.130
have to believe in a non-human intelligence visiting Earth for
1283
01:13:51.170 --> 01:13:56.229
this to be true either, which is, you know, I
1284
01:13:56.270 --> 01:13:58.770
think more in line with what you would say, but
1285
01:13:59.529 --> 01:14:06.869
that the military is doing these abductions and posing themselves
1286
01:14:07.189 --> 01:14:09.039
as non-human intelligence that's.
1287
01:14:08.899 --> 01:14:10.619
Exactly what i'm saying and i did a bad job
1288
01:14:10.680 --> 01:14:12.659
of phrasing it that way so i apologize and my
1289
01:14:13.140 --> 01:14:15.000
my belief on how that works is one i want
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01:14:15.020 --> 01:14:18.310
to bring up again electromagnetics and frequency and we kind
1291
01:14:18.369 --> 01:14:21.029
of again i say we i mean the general population
1292
01:14:21.069 --> 01:14:23.189
kind of can see how this works by simply looking
1293
01:14:23.270 --> 01:14:26.399
at the scarecrow from batman and about how the scarecrow
1294
01:14:26.409 --> 01:14:29.039
injects his victims and somehow it triggers some form of
1295
01:14:29.079 --> 01:14:33.010
dmt or whatever creates that psycho illusion of of whatever
1296
01:14:33.069 --> 01:14:35.890
you're seeing and it creates the demons and whatever else.
1297
01:14:36.289 --> 01:14:38.470
And to say that like human beings don't have that
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01:14:38.510 --> 01:14:40.800
technology now to be able to do that, the people is.
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01:14:41.229 --> 01:14:42.149
Oh no, we haven't.
1300
01:14:42.680 --> 01:14:45.140
Okay. So you, you, you pose that and then you
1301
01:14:45.199 --> 01:14:49.979
pose in the term non-human intelligence itself. What is non-human intelligence?
1302
01:14:50.020 --> 01:14:52.899
And at what point during experiments on human beings, do
1303
01:14:52.920 --> 01:14:56.390
they become non-humans? Like what is the classification on that?
1304
01:14:56.409 --> 01:14:59.189
I've never heard that asked in any government official meeting,
1305
01:14:59.529 --> 01:15:02.569
but like, I would absolutely love to ask someone like
1306
01:15:02.609 --> 01:15:07.029
David Grush, like, okay, you say that we have non-human biologics.
1307
01:15:07.050 --> 01:15:10.359
Does that non-human biologics also have human biologics in it?
1308
01:15:10.470 --> 01:15:14.310
And at what point does that, that line differentiate to
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01:15:14.390 --> 01:15:19.060
where it's considered non-human anymore? So like, are we talking
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01:15:19.109 --> 01:15:22.659
about experiments on other animals? Are we talking about experiments
1311
01:15:22.699 --> 01:15:26.399
on other mammals with artificial intelligence being put into their brains,
1312
01:15:26.460 --> 01:15:29.699
like chips and everything like, maybe even more advanced forms
1313
01:15:29.739 --> 01:15:31.579
of that. I just keep referencing that because that's a
1314
01:15:31.640 --> 01:15:34.380
simple one that we all know. But again, government has
1315
01:15:34.420 --> 01:15:36.779
technology that we haven't seen yet that are probably 20
1316
01:15:36.779 --> 01:15:38.819
or 30 years more advanced than what we're looking at
1317
01:15:38.859 --> 01:15:42.180
right now. So is that what they're talking about by
1318
01:15:42.220 --> 01:15:46.470
non-human biologics? When you look at shit, what's the one
1319
01:15:46.520 --> 01:15:50.050
in Long Island, the thing that washed up on shore?
1320
01:15:51.090 --> 01:15:52.770
I can't remember what that was, but it looked like
1321
01:15:52.810 --> 01:15:59.979
a dog-pig hybrid. Damn, I can't remember it. There were experiments, uh,
1322
01:16:00.199 --> 01:16:03.880
mammoth experiments, maybe I'm doing a really bad job of, of,
1323
01:16:05.680 --> 01:16:09.430
but there were experiments in long Island and, and something
1324
01:16:09.479 --> 01:16:12.770
washed up on shore. It was some type of like being,
1325
01:16:12.789 --> 01:16:14.949
you know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Yeah.
1326
01:16:15.149 --> 01:16:18.590
Dude, I have a piece of Montauk radar right there.
1327
01:16:19.369 --> 01:16:19.630
Yeah.
1328
01:16:20.270 --> 01:16:23.489
I have a piece of the sage radar right in
1329
01:16:23.529 --> 01:16:24.029
back of me.
1330
01:16:24.899 --> 01:16:25.100
Okay.
1331
01:16:25.340 --> 01:16:27.579
So let's, let's discuss that incident for a second.
1332
01:16:27.819 --> 01:16:27.979
Right.
1333
01:16:28.739 --> 01:16:31.470
So has anybody gone through and done the DNA on
1334
01:16:31.630 --> 01:16:32.909
the creature that washed up on shore?
1335
01:16:34.390 --> 01:16:36.329
Oh, that's the Plum Island thing, though.
1336
01:16:37.069 --> 01:16:38.229
Okay, I'm thinking I'm mixing them up.
1337
01:16:38.810 --> 01:16:42.529
Yeah, that's Plum Island. But that's still, it's around that
1338
01:16:42.600 --> 01:16:48.720
Montauk was what Stranger Things is based on. That's Camp Hero.
1339
01:16:49.079 --> 01:16:52.739
I'm mixing them up. Yeah, you're talking about Plum Island.
1340
01:16:52.760 --> 01:16:56.170
Yeah, the pig thing that washed up. The human-looking pig thing.
1341
01:16:56.689 --> 01:17:00.359
Yeah, I would say that I was pretty convinced that
1342
01:17:00.399 --> 01:17:01.859
that was just a fucking dog.
1343
01:17:02.579 --> 01:17:02.779
Yeah.
1344
01:17:03.020 --> 01:17:05.199
So it was like a water logged.
1345
01:17:05.500 --> 01:17:10.199
Like when something's in the water, guys, it really it's
1346
01:17:10.470 --> 01:17:15.369
not pretty when it gets to shore. So, yeah, it's
1347
01:17:15.449 --> 01:17:18.529
disgusting to talk about. It's disgusting to think about. Like
1348
01:17:19.109 --> 01:17:22.829
it's it's it happens to human beings. That's essentially why.
1349
01:17:23.800 --> 01:17:27.140
uh bad people put people in the water when after
1350
01:17:27.159 --> 01:17:29.399
they do what they do right because it very much
1351
01:17:30.199 --> 01:17:34.020
fucks the the the evidence up if you will um
1352
01:17:34.430 --> 01:17:41.250
but yeah i mean i mean uh people say people
1353
01:17:41.310 --> 01:17:45.010
are talking about right now about how trump is is
1354
01:17:45.409 --> 01:17:48.060
talking to nordics like they have that there was like
1355
01:17:48.100 --> 01:17:53.489
a fake picture that the I don't think it takes
1356
01:17:53.529 --> 01:17:56.649
a genius to realize that whoever's running the White House
1357
01:17:56.890 --> 01:18:01.420
social accounts, they're definitely like 23 years old. And there's
1358
01:18:01.460 --> 01:18:06.460
like a group of 10 of them because they're literally trolls.
1359
01:18:07.119 --> 01:18:10.270
That's how they act. That's how the White House social
1360
01:18:10.359 --> 01:18:14.590
accounts act right now. So and they're very good at
1361
01:18:14.630 --> 01:18:18.289
what they do. They see trends and then they jump
1362
01:18:18.430 --> 01:18:20.170
on them. That is all they do.
1363
01:18:21.869 --> 01:18:25.720
What do you think UFO disclosure is? It's a trend.
1364
01:18:25.760 --> 01:18:29.140
It's a way to distract people from what you're doing,
1365
01:18:29.300 --> 01:18:31.500
where your money's actually being spent. I mean, how much
1366
01:18:31.539 --> 01:18:34.060
of the audience knows what the Genesis mission is and
1367
01:18:34.100 --> 01:18:37.060
how we basically gave all of these artificial intelligence companies
1368
01:18:37.060 --> 01:18:40.399
10 years of unregulated, whatever, do whatever the fuck you want,
1369
01:18:40.439 --> 01:18:41.409
spend as much as you want.
1370
01:18:42.449 --> 01:18:45.909
But what do you think about them now screaming for regulation,
1371
01:18:45.949 --> 01:18:46.390
it seems?
1372
01:18:46.989 --> 01:18:49.829
They think it's all fake. They think it's all nonsense.
1373
01:18:50.399 --> 01:18:52.659
i think they made promises on something that they can't
1374
01:18:52.680 --> 01:18:55.619
keep i talked about this and it's in again the
1375
01:18:55.739 --> 01:18:58.920
films i ramble a lot and i mix things up
1376
01:18:58.979 --> 01:19:01.479
and i'll get things wrong i created the engine so
1377
01:19:01.500 --> 01:19:05.119
that like everything is there and it's in a much
1378
01:19:05.189 --> 01:19:07.989
better form shape or fashion that i'll do as i'm
1379
01:19:08.590 --> 01:19:14.079
talking today The film that I'm referencing itself, the AI film,
1380
01:19:15.140 --> 01:19:18.430
AI cannot be cod. The blind spot in psychohistory is you.
1381
01:19:18.470 --> 01:19:21.569
And what that means basically is that they are selling
1382
01:19:21.810 --> 01:19:25.250
a false belief that there is super intelligence itself. This
1383
01:19:25.329 --> 01:19:30.180
artificial intelligence has a limit and we are certainly seeing it.
1384
01:19:30.529 --> 01:19:34.550
And there's also a limit in compute and you're seeing
1385
01:19:34.630 --> 01:19:37.449
the resources being collected and grabbed up, whether it be
1386
01:19:37.470 --> 01:19:40.399
what's going on in Greenland with what we just did
1387
01:19:40.460 --> 01:19:43.189
with that deal or the fact that like we're kind
1388
01:19:43.250 --> 01:19:46.430
of tearing through Central America, Venezuela, what we did there.
1389
01:19:46.930 --> 01:19:49.170
You look at the Iraq war or excuse me, the
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01:19:49.250 --> 01:19:51.750
Iran war and what's going on with the Strait of Hormuz.
1391
01:19:52.250 --> 01:19:56.260
You look at what's happening in Ukraine and Russia and
1392
01:19:56.380 --> 01:19:59.239
the fight there is really a fight over resources, a
1393
01:19:59.279 --> 01:20:02.560
fight over the grid. So you look at with one hand,
1394
01:20:02.600 --> 01:20:06.439
we're promising artificial super intelligence where we're going to have
1395
01:20:06.470 --> 01:20:10.970
an abundance of everything and that our jobs aren't going
1396
01:20:10.989 --> 01:20:12.590
to exist and we're just going to live in this,
1397
01:20:12.729 --> 01:20:16.909
this crazy world where anything could be possible and you
1398
01:20:16.949 --> 01:20:19.949
don't need money because you'll have universal high income. And
1399
01:20:19.989 --> 01:20:21.949
at the same time, the exact people who are selling
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01:20:21.979 --> 01:20:24.489
you that are buying up all of the infrastructure. They're
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01:20:24.520 --> 01:20:29.439
buying up all the resources. Elon Musk is buying up
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01:20:29.560 --> 01:20:33.560
data centers and he's the one directly that rents compute
1403
01:20:33.619 --> 01:20:37.880
to like anthropic and open AI. So like a lot
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01:20:37.920 --> 01:20:40.489
of this stuff is nonsense. They're like, These companies are
1405
01:20:40.529 --> 01:20:44.310
essentially feuding with each other at points, which are fake feuds, kayfabe,
1406
01:20:44.350 --> 01:20:47.800
like we talked about. And underneath the booker, the military
1407
01:20:47.810 --> 01:20:51.819
industrial complex is going to get paid regardless because they're
1408
01:20:51.859 --> 01:20:53.979
going to steal our resources and we're going to argue
1409
01:20:54.020 --> 01:20:59.899
like idiots over absolute nonsense, over social issues and whether
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01:21:00.100 --> 01:21:02.859
AI can be sentient or not. We're going to focus
1411
01:21:02.930 --> 01:21:04.970
on the wrong things instead of looking at where the
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01:21:05.050 --> 01:21:05.890
actual money's going.
1413
01:21:07.590 --> 01:21:10.079
Yeah, Michael, I don't know what you're talking about. Well,
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01:21:10.319 --> 01:21:15.329
we didn't say anything was real. Actually, I think everything
1415
01:21:15.350 --> 01:21:19.970
that is being said tonight is opposite of what you're saying.
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01:21:20.449 --> 01:21:25.670
But yeah, so I want to jump on something here.
1417
01:21:26.689 --> 01:21:30.699
The data centers, the AI of it all, a lot
1418
01:21:30.739 --> 01:21:37.199
of people are worried about super intelligence. Essentially, what you've
1419
01:21:37.239 --> 01:21:40.539
just said is that You said you do not believe
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01:21:40.579 --> 01:21:43.180
that superintelligence has been achieved. So you don't think artificial
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01:21:43.220 --> 01:21:47.680
general intelligence is possible or you don't think it's happened?
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01:21:48.319 --> 01:21:50.369
It depends on what your definition is of that.
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01:21:51.189 --> 01:21:53.909
Sentient, self-aware AI.
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01:21:53.909 --> 01:21:59.829
Okay, so here's my issue. Here's the biggest issue that
1425
01:21:59.869 --> 01:22:01.550
I have with this is that there's no way to
1426
01:22:01.630 --> 01:22:04.220
gauge it or to tell because how can you prove
1427
01:22:04.260 --> 01:22:06.779
that I'm conscious or that I have consciousness? And how
1428
01:22:06.819 --> 01:22:12.170
can I prove that you have consciousness? You can't. There's
1429
01:22:12.229 --> 01:22:14.430
no test. There's no way for us to prove or
1430
01:22:14.470 --> 01:22:17.130
tell it. People say qualia or this or that. The
1431
01:22:17.170 --> 01:22:20.569
reality is there's absolutely nothing that we have. There is
1432
01:22:20.630 --> 01:22:24.670
no way to measure consciousness. And that's, again, a never-ending business,
1433
01:22:24.689 --> 01:22:27.640
just like UFO disclosure. And it feeds back into this
1434
01:22:27.729 --> 01:22:32.039
AI discussion because if you have a never-ending question, like
1435
01:22:32.199 --> 01:22:37.079
the consciousness and sentience of an artificial intelligence, right? And
1436
01:22:38.250 --> 01:22:42.079
you have these never ending goalposts that keep moving, whether
1437
01:22:42.140 --> 01:22:45.060
it be, whether we're going to reach Mars or whatever,
1438
01:22:45.100 --> 01:22:47.960
whatever we're being sold under the guise of like, whenever
1439
01:22:48.020 --> 01:22:51.020
we hit this AGI, we'll end up getting all of
1440
01:22:51.060 --> 01:22:54.460
these things. What's happening underneath all of that is again,
1441
01:22:54.680 --> 01:22:57.079
resources being stolen. You have the exact people who are
1442
01:22:57.100 --> 01:22:59.500
telling you that you're not going to need money, buying
1443
01:22:59.579 --> 01:23:03.970
up everything in sight. And you have the average human
1444
01:23:04.029 --> 01:23:08.560
being arguing over whether their machines are, are, going to
1445
01:23:08.600 --> 01:23:12.380
be able to have a conversation with him and understand
1446
01:23:12.439 --> 01:23:16.710
what is being said. You know, it's like, it's, it
1447
01:23:16.810 --> 01:23:22.250
involves so much that like, again, I'm not like a programmer,
1448
01:23:22.310 --> 01:23:24.829
but like, you need like an agentic memory for these
1449
01:23:24.850 --> 01:23:27.449
things to even remember what's going on in the first place.
1450
01:23:27.489 --> 01:23:30.289
And then more importantly, you need whatever the spark is
1451
01:23:30.329 --> 01:23:32.890
that allows us to have this free thought and consciousness.
1452
01:23:32.930 --> 01:23:38.899
And that goes back to like panspermia or like, mushrooms,
1453
01:23:38.939 --> 01:23:42.340
like how did consciousness happen? However you believed it happened,
1454
01:23:42.359 --> 01:23:45.859
whether it be God or that monkeys ate mushrooms or
1455
01:23:45.899 --> 01:23:48.920
that we just evolved to this point, that would essentially
1456
01:23:48.960 --> 01:23:51.770
need to happen for these machines as well. And in
1457
01:23:51.850 --> 01:23:55.569
order for that to happen, are we the ones who
1458
01:23:55.590 --> 01:23:58.470
are going to create that, right? There needs to be
1459
01:23:58.510 --> 01:24:01.989
some form of creation outside of that boundary. It's the
1460
01:24:02.060 --> 01:24:05.100
same fishbowl analogy that I gave you before, but the
1461
01:24:05.159 --> 01:24:07.840
artificial intelligence is actually in a smaller fishbowl than we're
1462
01:24:07.880 --> 01:24:10.359
in because we're the ones who created it. So to
1463
01:24:10.399 --> 01:24:12.979
expect it to just magically surpass us on all human
1464
01:24:13.039 --> 01:24:15.279
intelligence is, again, I'm going to say it again, it's
1465
01:24:15.399 --> 01:24:21.750
fucking retarded. It's an insane, insane thing to think. It's
1466
01:24:21.829 --> 01:24:25.710
impossible to happen without some type of divine intervention. And
1467
01:24:25.750 --> 01:24:27.989
if that happens, then we're talking about a whole different
1468
01:24:28.029 --> 01:24:30.029
argument and a whole different bunch of topics that need
1469
01:24:30.050 --> 01:24:34.090
to be discussed Because who even cares that the machine
1470
01:24:34.210 --> 01:24:37.829
is sentient anymore? It's more about what made the machine sentient, right?
1471
01:24:39.510 --> 01:24:39.750
Right.
1472
01:24:39.850 --> 01:24:47.560
So if tomorrow, you know, it became there was undeniable proof.
1473
01:24:47.729 --> 01:24:53.039
If they walked out undeniable proof tomorrow that non-human intelligence,
1474
01:24:53.659 --> 01:24:56.100
you know, or let's I don't like to call them
1475
01:24:56.180 --> 01:24:59.520
aliens because I think there's a negative connotation just with
1476
01:24:59.539 --> 01:25:07.829
that word in general. But let's say beings landed or
1477
01:25:08.149 --> 01:25:11.840
they walked out evidence onto a congressional floor and said,
1478
01:25:12.819 --> 01:25:18.699
here it is. How would that change your worldview?
1479
01:25:19.560 --> 01:25:21.420
It would need to be open source to the point
1480
01:25:21.460 --> 01:25:24.050
where you can actually see the programming of the code.
1481
01:25:24.590 --> 01:25:26.270
And what I mean by that is not just the
1482
01:25:26.329 --> 01:25:28.710
code itself, but you need to understand the weighting of
1483
01:25:28.750 --> 01:25:32.850
the programming behind the code, meaning that like for example,
1484
01:25:32.930 --> 01:25:36.720
Elon Musk and X open source, their algorithm, right? And
1485
01:25:36.739 --> 01:25:38.960
they tell you what a like means and what a
1486
01:25:39.020 --> 01:25:41.560
repost means. And if you get flagged, how negative that
1487
01:25:41.619 --> 01:25:43.819
is for your account. But what they don't tell you
1488
01:25:43.899 --> 01:25:46.689
is how their artificial intelligence weighs that and how it
1489
01:25:46.770 --> 01:25:53.680
scores that because they use basically their AI to create a, uh,
1490
01:25:55.100 --> 01:25:58.189
like a system that has its own set of rules
1491
01:25:58.229 --> 01:26:01.130
that you don't know. You just know what happens after
1492
01:26:01.250 --> 01:26:03.930
you get a like or repost or flag, but you
1493
01:26:03.970 --> 01:26:06.989
don't know like the, the, the meaning behind all of
1494
01:26:07.010 --> 01:26:08.649
those things. Does that make any sense? And I mean,
1495
01:26:08.670 --> 01:26:11.439
in reference to obviously like in a repost come from
1496
01:26:11.479 --> 01:26:15.039
whoever's on the other side of whatever account is interacting
1497
01:26:15.079 --> 01:26:15.619
with your post.
1498
01:26:16.239 --> 01:26:19.340
Right. Yeah, no, that makes sense. That makes sense.
1499
01:26:20.239 --> 01:26:23.119
Um, So that would need to be, that would need
1500
01:26:23.149 --> 01:26:25.810
to be had for the artificial intelligence or whatever it
1501
01:26:25.829 --> 01:26:28.170
was claiming sentience. There would need to be some form
1502
01:26:28.229 --> 01:26:31.970
of that, right? Right. Cause we're the ones who created it.
1503
01:26:32.010 --> 01:26:34.090
It's very different than a human being. We can't have
1504
01:26:34.149 --> 01:26:36.899
that for a human being because that comes from outside
1505
01:26:36.960 --> 01:26:39.859
of us. That comes from whatever created us that left
1506
01:26:39.960 --> 01:26:41.739
us no answers. And you have people that are trying
1507
01:26:41.760 --> 01:26:44.439
to sell you that and sell Kundalini and all of
1508
01:26:44.460 --> 01:26:47.689
this nonsense, right? Or new ageism. Again, I brought up
1509
01:26:48.430 --> 01:26:54.079
theosophy before. And the Aryans, the fruit races. So none
1510
01:26:54.119 --> 01:26:56.979
of this stuff is new ideas that I'm talking about, right?
1511
01:26:57.520 --> 01:26:59.510
But there's also no proof of any of it through
1512
01:26:59.550 --> 01:27:02.189
the 6,000 recorded years of human history dating back to
1513
01:27:02.210 --> 01:27:04.770
Gilgamesh and the Sumerians.
1514
01:27:07.409 --> 01:27:12.729
Unless the writings are real, right?
1515
01:27:13.369 --> 01:27:16.060
Yeah, but even then they were written by man. Yeah.
1516
01:27:17.170 --> 01:27:20.109
it's again, you would need some type of divine intervention.
1517
01:27:20.149 --> 01:27:22.449
And even after that divine intervention, you have to take
1518
01:27:23.229 --> 01:27:27.170
whatever that being saying is face value or whatever it is.
1519
01:27:27.210 --> 01:27:32.340
And that's not like, it's this never ending skepticism in
1520
01:27:32.380 --> 01:27:35.859
a weird way of like, there's always going to be
1521
01:27:35.939 --> 01:27:40.479
someone who has created some form of meaning to something
1522
01:27:40.520 --> 01:27:42.779
that is outside of yourself. So it's up to you,
1523
01:27:42.819 --> 01:27:45.300
whether you want to give that any weight or not
1524
01:27:45.319 --> 01:27:47.760
in terms of your actual life. but none of this
1525
01:27:47.779 --> 01:27:52.539
stuff comes from, uh, there you go. Sorry. Phone was ringing,
1526
01:27:52.960 --> 01:27:55.680
but none of this stuff comes from divine sources that
1527
01:27:55.720 --> 01:27:58.399
we can prove. It may, maybe some of the books
1528
01:27:58.439 --> 01:27:58.729
are right.
1529
01:27:58.770 --> 01:27:58.930
Right.
1530
01:27:58.939 --> 01:28:00.949
Like I'm not, again, I'm not here to disprove any
1531
01:28:00.970 --> 01:28:03.569
of this stuff in the sense of like, no, you're wrong.
1532
01:28:03.670 --> 01:28:05.810
I know better. Like I'm a fucking idiot. I've said
1533
01:28:05.850 --> 01:28:08.289
that a hundred times during this interview. Like I'm a moron,
1534
01:28:08.590 --> 01:28:11.090
but I also fully aware of the fact that like
1535
01:28:12.529 --> 01:28:14.810
no one else has any proof of anything outside of
1536
01:28:14.850 --> 01:28:15.640
what they're saying too.
1537
01:28:17.439 --> 01:28:21.739
But I guess what people will want, they'll demand of
1538
01:28:21.800 --> 01:28:25.539
me to ask is, do you have proof that there isn't,
1539
01:28:25.720 --> 01:28:26.649
it isn't happening?
1540
01:28:27.189 --> 01:28:27.409
No.
1541
01:28:27.569 --> 01:28:29.609
And that's where I think, again, we are left with
1542
01:28:29.630 --> 01:28:32.829
these never ending questions that I'm talking about and people
1543
01:28:32.869 --> 01:28:35.439
selling you meanings to things. So it really comes down
1544
01:28:35.600 --> 01:28:37.539
to like, why is this being sold to you?
1545
01:28:38.119 --> 01:28:44.359
They see a vacuum. They see the vacuum and they're
1546
01:28:44.399 --> 01:28:50.859
taking advantage of that vacuum to enrich themselves.
1547
01:28:51.319 --> 01:28:51.520
Yeah.
1548
01:28:51.680 --> 01:28:54.600
Or to watch out. If nobody knows anything, you can
1549
01:28:54.699 --> 01:28:59.520
either Liberate yourself with that and create a world where
1550
01:28:59.800 --> 01:29:02.199
the meanings that you choose to give things are the
1551
01:29:02.279 --> 01:29:04.579
things that matter, or you can allow other people to
1552
01:29:04.619 --> 01:29:07.119
shape narratives for you. And I'm simply here just trying
1553
01:29:07.159 --> 01:29:09.579
to ask people to choose the first one, because we
1554
01:29:09.619 --> 01:29:12.399
live in a world where the second one is clearly
1555
01:29:12.439 --> 01:29:15.140
the way of life for a majority of people. And unfortunately,
1556
01:29:15.180 --> 01:29:17.619
we all do share a reality. And it would make
1557
01:29:17.699 --> 01:29:20.189
my reality and my daughter's reality a little bit better
1558
01:29:20.229 --> 01:29:23.670
if we all started critically thinking and working together and
1559
01:29:23.729 --> 01:29:28.159
viewing each other as passengers on this ride of life,
1560
01:29:28.279 --> 01:29:30.819
as opposed to customers that we're trying to one up
1561
01:29:30.859 --> 01:29:33.460
all the time and sell something to. And most of
1562
01:29:33.479 --> 01:29:35.840
us really view the average person that way. I'm not
1563
01:29:35.859 --> 01:29:36.680
saying you, I'm just saying.
1564
01:29:36.720 --> 01:29:39.800
No, no, no, I agree. I 100% agree.
1565
01:29:40.159 --> 01:29:42.359
So again, I think most of the people who are
1566
01:29:42.399 --> 01:29:45.239
selling narratives are really doing it in a way of like,
1567
01:29:45.270 --> 01:29:47.810
they're either trying to protect their stack and their way
1568
01:29:47.829 --> 01:29:49.489
of life. And the fact that most of us don't
1569
01:29:49.510 --> 01:29:51.989
want to work an actual nine to five and bust
1570
01:29:52.029 --> 01:29:53.970
our backs and our asses. And if we can talk
1571
01:29:54.010 --> 01:29:56.939
for a living, especially about a never ending business that
1572
01:29:56.979 --> 01:29:58.819
we don't have to prove anything. We could just talk
1573
01:29:58.859 --> 01:30:01.069
out of our ass forever and it puts money in
1574
01:30:01.130 --> 01:30:03.449
our account. Like, wouldn't you want to do that? Like,
1575
01:30:03.529 --> 01:30:05.770
I get it. I get it from a lot of angles.
1576
01:30:06.449 --> 01:30:09.590
So do you think that they need to be more
1577
01:30:09.649 --> 01:30:13.319
transparent about what they're, they are, if they are going
1578
01:30:13.380 --> 01:30:17.449
to make the money off of it, that, because again, I,
1579
01:30:17.439 --> 01:30:21.600
I do agree with you to, to a degree, to
1580
01:30:21.619 --> 01:30:25.680
the degree that I want, we have paradise. People talk about, um,
1581
01:30:27.439 --> 01:30:32.329
you know, living in a way, living certain ways so
1582
01:30:32.350 --> 01:30:35.229
that they can get into heaven and, and, you know, go,
1583
01:30:35.270 --> 01:30:37.869
go on to paradise. And it's like, yeah, but that's
1584
01:30:37.909 --> 01:30:41.010
not promised. You know, what is the earth around us?
1585
01:30:41.409 --> 01:30:45.420
Cause I've seen it. I've driven through the country, been
1586
01:30:45.439 --> 01:30:50.140
to places. I've seen the beauty from coast to coast. Right. Um,
1587
01:30:50.899 --> 01:30:55.460
and I, More of us need to remember why we
1588
01:30:55.600 --> 01:30:58.520
fight for the things that we fight for. We need
1589
01:30:58.579 --> 01:31:04.939
to live in the present rather than hindering the now
1590
01:31:05.479 --> 01:31:10.939
for a not promised eternal life. And it really disappoints
1591
01:31:11.010 --> 01:31:18.229
me when I see people really living these menial lives,
1592
01:31:18.430 --> 01:31:23.869
these trivial lives where they do just sit on 24
1593
01:31:24.550 --> 01:31:28.789
hours a day, even talking about UFOs. There are people
1594
01:31:28.829 --> 01:31:33.020
that literally sit online all day talking about UFOs. And
1595
01:31:33.060 --> 01:31:38.359
it's like, at that point, what does it matter? You're
1596
01:31:38.619 --> 01:31:41.359
not going out and contributing anything.
1597
01:31:42.199 --> 01:31:44.399
That's what you just said is the exact point that
1598
01:31:44.439 --> 01:31:47.659
I wanted to... really hit home here. You brought the
1599
01:31:47.689 --> 01:31:51.569
word remember. I wrote an article a few months ago,
1600
01:31:51.609 --> 01:31:55.550
I think it is now, about The Lion King and
1601
01:31:55.609 --> 01:31:58.689
about like the Jungian message of The Lion King. And
1602
01:31:58.710 --> 01:32:03.670
it was very similar to Jordan Peterson's. He did a
1603
01:32:03.890 --> 01:32:06.800
full like, I don't know what you want to call it,
1604
01:32:06.819 --> 01:32:10.779
speech or whatever it is about the movie. And essentially
1605
01:32:10.859 --> 01:32:12.859
what I was trying to say, and I kind of
1606
01:32:13.020 --> 01:32:15.039
went a little further than Peterson did, is that like
1607
01:32:15.060 --> 01:32:17.539
this movie kind of explains like we need to remember
1608
01:32:17.579 --> 01:32:21.180
what we are because we are basically Simba. We are
1609
01:32:21.420 --> 01:32:24.680
a traumatized child who ran into the woods and is
1610
01:32:24.760 --> 01:32:27.340
singing Hakuna Matata and eating grubs and not giving a
1611
01:32:27.399 --> 01:32:31.380
shit about life in the real world while our entire
1612
01:32:31.460 --> 01:32:35.510
kingdom is crumbling to the ground. And we need to
1613
01:32:35.550 --> 01:32:38.390
go back and face our demon in the same way
1614
01:32:38.430 --> 01:32:40.829
that Rafiki hit Simba on the head with the stick.
1615
01:32:41.520 --> 01:32:43.970
And tell them to remember, that's what we need to do.
1616
01:32:43.989 --> 01:32:46.109
We need to look in the water, remember who we are.
1617
01:32:46.130 --> 01:32:49.970
Remember that this world, the one that we live in,
1618
01:32:50.149 --> 01:32:52.949
is the world. There is no matrix to escape to
1619
01:32:53.010 --> 01:32:54.989
because none of us understand what death is. We don't
1620
01:32:55.029 --> 01:32:58.399
understand how we were created, who created us, why we
1621
01:32:58.449 --> 01:33:00.939
were created. All we have is what's here. And if
1622
01:33:00.979 --> 01:33:03.180
we're constantly focused on all of the things that are
1623
01:33:03.279 --> 01:33:06.100
outside of that, instead of the potholes in the ground
1624
01:33:06.159 --> 01:33:07.720
in front of us and the mess in front of
1625
01:33:07.779 --> 01:33:09.939
our house, and if we don't clean our fucking rooms...
1626
01:33:10.069 --> 01:33:12.010
This is the world that we're going to live in.
1627
01:33:12.039 --> 01:33:13.979
This is what it's going to look like. So again,
1628
01:33:14.000 --> 01:33:16.880
I'm here to get people to critically think. I think
1629
01:33:16.939 --> 01:33:18.920
it's time we remember who we are. I think we
1630
01:33:18.939 --> 01:33:21.500
look in the water, we wake up, and we go
1631
01:33:21.560 --> 01:33:24.520
back and we take that fucking rock from Scar. It's
1632
01:33:24.579 --> 01:33:26.539
that simple. Because all Scar is, and this is what
1633
01:33:26.560 --> 01:33:29.770
I talked about in the article, is the subconscious. And
1634
01:33:29.810 --> 01:33:33.390
I think that human beings, our consciousness, we have a
1635
01:33:33.529 --> 01:33:37.079
consciousness and a subconscious. Again, everyone knows that. But I
1636
01:33:37.199 --> 01:33:40.680
think our subconscious is what shapes our world. Because if
1637
01:33:41.239 --> 01:33:46.210
our conscious is constantly focused on escaping whatever we think
1638
01:33:46.250 --> 01:33:49.090
this is, instead of realizing the beauty in it, right?
1639
01:33:49.149 --> 01:33:50.750
Like nature is really raw.
1640
01:33:50.810 --> 01:33:53.189
It's gorgeous. Oh, dude, that's what I said.
1641
01:33:53.569 --> 01:33:55.609
It's also brutal, right?
1642
01:33:55.689 --> 01:33:57.590
You ever watch a lion.
1643
01:33:57.229 --> 01:33:59.609
Rip apart like a seagull or something? Like it can
1644
01:33:59.649 --> 01:34:03.369
be fucking nasty. But you have to focus on the
1645
01:34:03.449 --> 01:34:05.800
things that make it beautiful. And at the same time,
1646
01:34:05.840 --> 01:34:08.420
like not shy away from the things that make it
1647
01:34:08.520 --> 01:34:12.000
brutal too. You have to understand that. And it has
1648
01:34:12.039 --> 01:34:15.000
to be the circle of life. You have to essentially
1649
01:34:15.619 --> 01:34:19.380
have both things. And I think when we start doing that,
1650
01:34:19.560 --> 01:34:23.659
we get past a lot of this disclosure nonsense where
1651
01:34:23.760 --> 01:34:27.340
we're waiting for some external force to come save us
1652
01:34:27.859 --> 01:34:33.109
from the fact that things right out in front of
1653
01:34:33.170 --> 01:34:37.430
our face are there and we're doing this because we're
1654
01:34:38.430 --> 01:34:41.350
scared of what's actually there. And we're hoping someone's going
1655
01:34:41.369 --> 01:34:43.310
to come remove our hands from our eyes and make
1656
01:34:43.350 --> 01:34:44.630
things better like a child.
1657
01:34:45.670 --> 01:34:50.470
That's, um, that's one of, I think one of the
1658
01:34:50.529 --> 01:34:56.149
best analogies, I mean, the, the, the lion King, uh, I,
1659
01:34:56.270 --> 01:34:59.340
and you know, what kills me is now on YouTube,
1660
01:34:59.439 --> 01:35:03.699
even if you like hum a song, you'll get flagged.
1661
01:35:04.260 --> 01:35:08.439
And I, I almost went to sing the, uh, no
1662
01:35:08.479 --> 01:35:11.800
worries song from Lion King. And I was like, ah,
1663
01:35:12.180 --> 01:35:14.829
and I was like, I had mute myself to do it, uh,
1664
01:35:14.869 --> 01:35:20.050
which is terrible, but copyright, you know? Uh, but, and
1665
01:35:20.090 --> 01:35:23.930
that's what it is. That's what like, it's become our words, our, our,
1666
01:35:24.430 --> 01:35:28.239
our lives have become data that's being just sold and
1667
01:35:28.300 --> 01:35:31.949
resold and, repackaged and resold again.
1668
01:35:32.020 --> 01:35:35.229
And after a while, words become meaningless and actions are
1669
01:35:35.300 --> 01:35:39.319
really what people should be putting stock in. And I
1670
01:35:39.340 --> 01:35:41.859
think we spend so much time putting stock in other
1671
01:35:41.880 --> 01:35:44.399
people's words and we don't look past why they're saying
1672
01:35:44.420 --> 01:35:45.000
what they're saying.
1673
01:35:46.100 --> 01:35:53.899
But do you understand why... And this is something I
1674
01:35:53.979 --> 01:35:55.819
often struggle with in my head.
1675
01:35:57.500 --> 01:35:57.560
If.
1676
01:35:58.270 --> 01:36:02.829
because you talk about the brutality of nature. The only
1677
01:36:02.970 --> 01:36:11.710
way that I see us changing the system is by
1678
01:36:11.789 --> 01:36:15.609
tearing it down. And the only way that happens is
1679
01:36:15.670 --> 01:36:19.229
with a little brutality. And, you know, that scares me
1680
01:36:19.260 --> 01:36:24.640
because that, you know, we want to call ourselves civilized
1681
01:36:24.699 --> 01:36:29.310
and above that, but then you see what it actually
1682
01:36:29.369 --> 01:36:32.949
looks like. And it is a little terrifying.
1683
01:36:33.720 --> 01:36:36.520
It can be. You're talking to someone who views Muay
1684
01:36:36.539 --> 01:36:38.319
Thai as one of the most beautiful things in the world.
1685
01:36:38.760 --> 01:36:40.659
I've been kneed and elbowed in the face. My nose
1686
01:36:40.680 --> 01:36:42.800
has been broken multiple times. And I view that as
1687
01:36:42.840 --> 01:36:49.189
a beautiful experience. So I don't view violence in the
1688
01:36:49.250 --> 01:36:51.869
sake of when it's needed to be a bad thing.
1689
01:36:51.909 --> 01:36:54.569
But I also don't necessarily agree that brutality is the
1690
01:36:54.609 --> 01:36:57.439
only way that we get there. I think it starts
1691
01:36:57.560 --> 01:37:02.359
with a full separation mentality of, do you know anything
1692
01:37:02.420 --> 01:37:06.930
about the mind war doctrine or about Michael Aquino and
1693
01:37:07.069 --> 01:37:10.229
General Paul Vallee, by any chance, outside of like Aquino
1694
01:37:10.250 --> 01:37:11.050
and Satan and stuff?
1695
01:37:12.010 --> 01:37:17.949
The names sound familiar. I'm grasping with nothing on the ideas.
1696
01:37:18.390 --> 01:37:23.539
Okay, so the military doctrine, mind war. outline three things
1697
01:37:23.659 --> 01:37:26.119
that are really important. I always break the doctrine down
1698
01:37:26.220 --> 01:37:30.520
to these three things. It's one that your own population
1699
01:37:31.060 --> 01:37:34.479
is the enemy, the same way that other populations are
1700
01:37:34.520 --> 01:37:37.699
the enemy because you need people to either agree with
1701
01:37:37.760 --> 01:37:41.159
what you're doing or they're against you. It's just that simple.
1702
01:37:41.899 --> 01:37:44.699
And you need to be loud enough, long enough with
1703
01:37:44.760 --> 01:37:50.029
your argument. And I always forget this third thing. And again,
1704
01:37:50.060 --> 01:37:52.739
I apologize. This is exactly why I created the engine.
1705
01:37:52.760 --> 01:37:54.579
I'm going to do it on your show. I'm going
1706
01:37:54.600 --> 01:37:57.180
to type in mind war. My brain just went blank
1707
01:37:57.199 --> 01:38:01.779
because it's been a long day with my daughter. And
1708
01:38:02.100 --> 01:38:05.069
here you go. I'm an idiot. The third and most
1709
01:38:05.109 --> 01:38:06.810
important one, which really I should have put first, is
1710
01:38:06.850 --> 01:38:09.810
that war is obsolete because you're spending resources on things
1711
01:38:09.829 --> 01:38:11.890
that don't need to go through. So why are we
1712
01:38:11.949 --> 01:38:15.220
fighting wars? Why are we spending money on things that
1713
01:38:15.239 --> 01:38:17.579
we might be able to win by using now the
1714
01:38:17.859 --> 01:38:20.340
internet and social media and all these different tools that
1715
01:38:20.359 --> 01:38:23.010
didn't exist in the 80s when this doctrine was created.
1716
01:38:23.569 --> 01:38:25.390
So if you look at those three things and you
1717
01:38:25.430 --> 01:38:28.909
look at algorithms and social media and how those three
1718
01:38:28.949 --> 01:38:32.880
things can essentially create and shape the human narrative that's
1719
01:38:32.920 --> 01:38:37.659
being pushed forward on these algorithms that is really a class,
1720
01:38:37.859 --> 01:38:45.600
excuse me, like a culture-based and argument-pushed algorithm as opposed
1721
01:38:45.649 --> 01:38:48.069
to looking at class structure and all these different things.
1722
01:38:48.869 --> 01:38:52.470
And you can kind of see exactly how we ended
1723
01:38:52.529 --> 01:38:53.729
up in the situation that we're in.
1724
01:38:53.750 --> 01:38:57.890
That's a good.
1725
01:39:00.130 --> 01:39:00.329
Yeah.
1726
01:39:00.869 --> 01:39:03.949
I apologize for having to go to the engine there. It's, again, like,
1727
01:39:04.550 --> 01:39:07.850
that's why I created this thing. It's so deep. It's so,
1728
01:39:08.060 --> 01:39:10.880
so deep with information. I'm constantly trying to fill it
1729
01:39:11.420 --> 01:39:14.039
whenever I can. And everything that, like, I just quoted
1730
01:39:14.079 --> 01:39:16.039
the mind war doctrine from the engine, but if I
1731
01:39:16.079 --> 01:39:19.029
wanted to, I could have clicked the primary source button
1732
01:39:19.170 --> 01:39:22.050
and went exactly to the mind word doctrine itself. And
1733
01:39:22.090 --> 01:39:23.760
that's the beauty of the engine is that I tried
1734
01:39:23.770 --> 01:39:26.760
to create this in a way that like people can
1735
01:39:26.800 --> 01:39:28.760
see that it's not just what I put there on
1736
01:39:29.260 --> 01:39:32.020
the website. You can go and see these primary source
1737
01:39:32.060 --> 01:39:35.619
documents where they are. I try to connect as many
1738
01:39:35.680 --> 01:39:37.880
pieces as I can. I'm sure I missed a few things,
1739
01:39:37.960 --> 01:39:41.329
but like, Again, we've been talking for a while now.
1740
01:39:41.369 --> 01:39:44.090
Everything's tied. Everything that we've talked about today is tied.
1741
01:39:44.149 --> 01:39:46.029
Even if I've done a bad job of tying it
1742
01:39:46.060 --> 01:39:48.399
together myself, I assure you, if you go dig into
1743
01:39:48.409 --> 01:39:50.140
the things that I'm saying, which I hope and I
1744
01:39:50.239 --> 01:39:52.840
pray to God your audience does, especially if they think
1745
01:39:52.859 --> 01:39:56.479
that I'm full of shit, please go ahead. Again, I
1746
01:39:56.500 --> 01:39:58.260
said in the beginning, I'll say it again. Go dox me.
1747
01:39:58.539 --> 01:39:59.399
Go have some fun.
1748
01:39:59.539 --> 01:40:01.640
Don't dox.
1749
01:40:01.779 --> 01:40:04.600
Please don't release the information publicly, but go dox me
1750
01:40:04.640 --> 01:40:07.380
and figure out exactly what motivations I would have for
1751
01:40:07.399 --> 01:40:08.399
saying and doing it.
1752
01:40:08.920 --> 01:40:10.140
To put it public, so.
1753
01:40:10.239 --> 01:40:13.460
Okay, so non-public doxing. Whatever you want to call that.
1754
01:40:13.500 --> 01:40:17.479
No, because once you use the dox, it's like... So.
1755
01:40:18.539 --> 01:40:20.560
Don't send fucking SWAT games to my house, please. I'm
1756
01:40:20.600 --> 01:40:22.340
just trying to prove the point of, like, if you start.
1757
01:40:22.380 --> 01:40:23.180
Verify him.
1758
01:40:23.479 --> 01:40:27.880
Yeah, yeah, don't do that. Verify him. There's a lot of, like,
1759
01:40:29.100 --> 01:40:32.039
negative here for me as opposed to the positive, other than, like,
1760
01:40:32.100 --> 01:40:34.600
if this works, if I'm right in... Because I believe
1761
01:40:34.619 --> 01:40:37.579
this is a way of trying to use Gallum Theory against...
1762
01:40:38.020 --> 01:40:40.729
the same military industrial complexes that are using it back
1763
01:40:40.770 --> 01:40:42.010
at us. And I see the question, is this a
1764
01:40:42.029 --> 01:40:45.470
prison planet? No. And how would anyone know? How would
1765
01:40:45.590 --> 01:40:48.170
anybody know that this is a prison planet? This is
1766
01:40:48.210 --> 01:40:50.670
the real world. The world that we live in, you
1767
01:40:50.689 --> 01:40:52.510
can either believe that it's a prison planet and that
1768
01:40:52.529 --> 01:40:54.109
this is a horrible place to be and you need
1769
01:40:54.130 --> 01:40:57.180
to escape and all the David Icke nonsense, or you
1770
01:40:57.199 --> 01:40:59.819
can try to make things better here and start focusing
1771
01:40:59.880 --> 01:41:01.319
on what's in front of you and try to fix
1772
01:41:01.359 --> 01:41:03.960
the world around us. And when we actually do that,
1773
01:41:03.979 --> 01:41:04.420
it gets better.
1774
01:41:05.270 --> 01:41:08.859
That's what, that's what, uh, bothers me is, is like,
1775
01:41:09.500 --> 01:41:13.460
you know, with a simple analogy here of like, uh,
1776
01:41:14.359 --> 01:41:16.340
I've been with people and like, they throw something on the,
1777
01:41:16.460 --> 01:41:18.619
like trash on the ground. And I'm like, dude, pick
1778
01:41:18.659 --> 01:41:18.890
it up.
1779
01:41:18.899 --> 01:41:19.739
I know.
1780
01:41:20.039 --> 01:41:24.590
Ooh, what's one person gonna, what's one person gonna change?
1781
01:41:24.890 --> 01:41:28.630
And it's like, well, if everyone thinks like you, it's
1782
01:41:28.689 --> 01:41:32.109
going to change for the worse. And you're gonna, you know, um,
1783
01:41:34.310 --> 01:41:40.189
your children will inherit a trash pile or you could
1784
01:41:40.270 --> 01:41:42.430
pick it up and do the right thing. Like, you know,
1785
01:41:42.449 --> 01:41:44.949
it's a simple analogy. I know that, you know, there's
1786
01:41:44.989 --> 01:41:47.270
flaws in recycling and, you know, we don't have to
1787
01:41:47.310 --> 01:41:50.579
go down that rabbit hole, but the analogy being one
1788
01:41:50.640 --> 01:41:56.439
person can change the world. Like it starts with one, right?
1789
01:41:56.760 --> 01:42:00.000
It starts with one and grows.
1790
01:42:00.020 --> 01:42:03.159
I agree. And you just came from Austin, which is,
1791
01:42:03.630 --> 01:42:05.850
I think that's the exact opposite of the mindset of
1792
01:42:05.890 --> 01:42:08.010
a lot of the tech bros that are down there. It's,
1793
01:42:08.470 --> 01:42:10.479
they are the people that are throwing the garbage on
1794
01:42:10.489 --> 01:42:12.779
the ground. They view the world the same way that
1795
01:42:12.880 --> 01:42:15.720
a meth head views a motel room during a bender.
1796
01:42:16.199 --> 01:42:18.119
And then they want to go off and colonize space.
1797
01:42:18.159 --> 01:42:20.520
It's like, no, like maybe we don't trash the fucking
1798
01:42:20.539 --> 01:42:23.399
motel room and we, we, maybe we clean it up
1799
01:42:23.460 --> 01:42:25.439
and we treat, treat the place that we live in
1800
01:42:25.479 --> 01:42:27.319
right now with some respect before we go try to
1801
01:42:27.359 --> 01:42:28.319
colonize anywhere else.
1802
01:42:29.279 --> 01:42:34.279
And that's, that's, that's deep, man. Um, do you think
1803
01:42:34.340 --> 01:42:38.279
we've been, do you, cause now I want to, I
1804
01:42:38.319 --> 01:42:39.760
want to know a couple of things about you before
1805
01:42:39.779 --> 01:42:42.420
we wrap up. We can do this again in part two.
1806
01:42:43.399 --> 01:42:49.390
There's still so much to cover. Did we go to,
1807
01:42:49.590 --> 01:42:50.350
did we go to the moon?
1808
01:42:51.229 --> 01:42:56.149
I don't know. Again, my personal, I don't, my personal
1809
01:42:56.189 --> 01:42:59.850
belief is like, it shouldn't matter to anyone cause I'm
1810
01:42:59.899 --> 01:43:02.220
an idiot. But like from the stuff that I've researched,
1811
01:43:02.399 --> 01:43:05.390
I don't know that I believe. I am not sure
1812
01:43:05.430 --> 01:43:05.869
that I do.
1813
01:43:06.689 --> 01:43:10.210
You talked about physical evidence, though, earlier. There's definitely physical
1814
01:43:10.289 --> 01:43:13.069
evidence that says that we went to the moon.
1815
01:43:13.619 --> 01:43:15.840
Yeah, there's also physical evidence that shows that it could
1816
01:43:15.859 --> 01:43:18.939
have been fake. It goes either way. It really, like,
1817
01:43:19.439 --> 01:43:22.300
my opinion is I don't know enough about the science
1818
01:43:22.380 --> 01:43:26.460
behind what actually took place and transpired to give an
1819
01:43:26.539 --> 01:43:30.329
educated opinion. So, like, I could either believe NASA and
1820
01:43:30.350 --> 01:43:32.170
the experts there, or I could believe that there's some
1821
01:43:32.229 --> 01:43:35.770
shady shit behind it. So, like, just that portion of
1822
01:43:35.829 --> 01:43:39.329
me leans towards, like, I don't really trust our government
1823
01:43:39.409 --> 01:43:42.090
for anything. But at the same time, like, I don't
1824
01:43:42.270 --> 01:43:44.260
fucking know. You know what I mean? Like, that's one
1825
01:43:44.270 --> 01:43:47.220
of the ones, like, that, Flat Earth, like, a bunch
1826
01:43:47.260 --> 01:43:50.000
of the ones that are, like, these open-ended questions that, like,
1827
01:43:50.039 --> 01:43:53.640
there's nothing but paper trails of money behind them other
1828
01:43:53.680 --> 01:43:54.880
than that. Like, there's no.
1829
01:43:54.899 --> 01:43:57.159
Well, Flat Earth is bullshit.
1830
01:43:57.479 --> 01:44:00.479
Yeah. So, like, again, like, I don't think I should
1831
01:44:00.520 --> 01:44:04.520
be anybody that, like, people are looking to for answers either.
1832
01:44:05.039 --> 01:44:07.100
I get like why you're asking me the question too,
1833
01:44:07.140 --> 01:44:09.710
but I even feel like weird answering it because again,
1834
01:44:09.789 --> 01:44:12.329
I'm an idiot. I just am a man who piled
1835
01:44:12.409 --> 01:44:14.890
a bunch of research together and has a ton of
1836
01:44:14.909 --> 01:44:17.449
questions that I think need answering that aren't being asked
1837
01:44:17.470 --> 01:44:18.130
by anybody else.
1838
01:44:19.500 --> 01:44:25.119
Fair enough. Like you said, especially when we have real issues, like,
1839
01:44:25.539 --> 01:44:33.930
you know, there's, there's riots, riots and protests, you know,
1840
01:44:33.939 --> 01:44:41.289
for certain things. And then Epstein happens and no one
1841
01:44:41.310 --> 01:44:44.050
gets out. No one, no one does a thing. No
1842
01:44:44.130 --> 01:44:47.970
one does a thing when we find out that our children,
1843
01:44:49.550 --> 01:44:59.909
our children, our sisters, our mothers, like not a single
1844
01:45:00.930 --> 01:45:08.029
not a single rally not a single protest nothing what
1845
01:45:08.069 --> 01:45:11.770
the fuck is wrong with us like i hate to
1846
01:45:11.840 --> 01:45:16.779
say it but the fucking the conspiracy was right on
1847
01:45:16.840 --> 01:45:20.739
this one pedophiles do run the world and.
1848
01:45:20.680 --> 01:45:24.149
Yeah i think that's how they blackmail people That's how
1849
01:45:24.189 --> 01:45:26.529
they create the system that they have, though. It's a
1850
01:45:26.710 --> 01:45:29.569
system that's created on blackmail. If you look at Epstein himself,
1851
01:45:30.149 --> 01:45:33.590
the actual man, Epstein, doesn't matter. What matters is what
1852
01:45:33.630 --> 01:45:34.970
he was doing. The network.
1853
01:45:35.229 --> 01:45:36.529
Yeah, of course.
1854
01:45:36.609 --> 01:45:39.069
I think we get so lost on who was fucking
1855
01:45:39.100 --> 01:45:42.859
kids on that island and what celebrities were involved. And
1856
01:45:42.899 --> 01:45:45.720
we forget the fact that there were biophysicists and all
1857
01:45:45.739 --> 01:45:48.819
of these different scientists that were on this island. There
1858
01:45:48.840 --> 01:45:51.220
was a man who was obsessed with eugenics itself, who
1859
01:45:51.239 --> 01:45:56.060
wanted to seed the world with his sperm, his seed.
1860
01:45:56.720 --> 01:45:58.779
There are a lot of things in terms of Epstein
1861
01:45:58.819 --> 01:46:03.380
that go well beyond the actual man and start diving into, again,
1862
01:46:03.399 --> 01:46:07.079
this hundred-year pipeline of eugenics that I'm talking about. Just
1863
01:46:07.119 --> 01:46:09.520
look at some of the names that are tied to Epstein.
1864
01:46:09.539 --> 01:46:13.479
You have the Bars, whether it be Bill Barr, the AG,
1865
01:46:13.699 --> 01:46:18.670
who was involved with the prosecution's case. Yeah, and then
1866
01:46:18.810 --> 01:46:22.159
Barr's father, who was the one who gave Epstein a
1867
01:46:22.199 --> 01:46:24.819
job at Dalton and they went to summer camp together.
1868
01:46:24.880 --> 01:46:27.079
So there's a lot of weird things there. There's weird
1869
01:46:27.140 --> 01:46:31.359
things just, again, there's little ties into the government everywhere,
1870
01:46:31.399 --> 01:46:34.609
whether it be like Trump and Roy Cohn and Bannon and, and,
1871
01:46:35.250 --> 01:46:39.310
and Roger Stone and that Epstein connection or Ute Barak
1872
01:46:39.850 --> 01:46:42.989
and Netanyahu and that connection to Epstein or Field and
1873
01:46:43.010 --> 01:46:46.819
Mosk and Gates and Reid Hoffman and that connection to Epstein,
1874
01:46:46.840 --> 01:46:51.710
like name one person who's, involved in the infrastructure, the
1875
01:46:51.770 --> 01:46:55.789
American economy, or excuse me, the American government, whether it
1876
01:46:55.829 --> 01:47:00.010
be the economy or whether it be now the department
1877
01:47:00.029 --> 01:47:02.470
of war name, name one person that's not at the
1878
01:47:02.529 --> 01:47:06.609
top of those structures that doesn't tied or to either
1879
01:47:06.729 --> 01:47:10.720
Epstein or the, the infrastructure that made Epstein.
1880
01:47:11.460 --> 01:47:16.319
No, that it's, it's, it's all tied back. It's all like,
1881
01:47:16.340 --> 01:47:20.619
it is, Like, you know, really good example of this
1882
01:47:20.729 --> 01:47:27.350
is look at a guy like Dan Bongino. Who. You know, online,
1883
01:47:27.630 --> 01:47:31.729
like the guy, the guy was a podcaster and then became,
1884
01:47:32.909 --> 01:47:40.560
you know, essentially. Got into the inside and then became
1885
01:47:40.600 --> 01:47:44.729
a shill for the very deep state and and and
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stuff that he he was screaming about prior.
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It's like Anna Paul Luna with the UFO stuff. And
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it's funny, if you look past that, if you look
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past like the Bonginos and the Kash Patels, and you
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01:47:58.670 --> 01:48:02.039
look a little higher, right? And you start looking at
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what's above them, you start seeing money. And you start seeing, again,
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like the floors of of the infrastructure, the business of
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how all of this stuff works. And it all ties
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back to the same companies and corporations that were created by, again,
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the military industrial complex. So Bongino, Kash Patel, who was
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advertising on their shows when they had their shows, who
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was funneling them money. And that's always why I say,
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go follow the money. The documentary that I did, Stop
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Feeding the Grifters, I actually brought up Dan Bongino. And
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I pointed out the fact that one of the advertisers
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that he has on his show also advertises on left shows.
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like the Bulwark and Sam Seder. And one of the
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01:48:42.939 --> 01:48:46.680
reasons why these advertisers do that is because they're simply
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just buying your anger. They're buying your attention. They don't
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01:48:50.560 --> 01:48:52.619
give a shit about who wins the arguments because these
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01:48:52.699 --> 01:48:56.029
arguments are kayfabe. The person who books the wrestling match
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01:48:56.069 --> 01:48:58.090
doesn't give a shit who wins the wrestling match. They
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care about you buying the merch. And only when you
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start buying more merch for John Cena, then you do
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Rey Mysterio. Does John Cena win the title from Rey Mysterio?
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Yep. It's all pulleys and levers.
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Yeah.
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And just to, again, I kind of want to just
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touch on real quick. I brought up Paul Vallée and
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Michael Kino before in that Mine War Doctrine. They were
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the ones who wrote it. Paul Vallée was a talking
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head at Fox News when he retired from the military
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and then went on to be one of the contributors
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to how Turning Point USA was formed and built into
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the powerhouse that it is. And if I'm correct, he's
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still involved with Turning Point USA. He was heavily involved
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in Q and himself was in Anon along with Michael
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Flynn and all of these other guys were tied into
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the military. It's the same exact thing that I'm talking about.
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They're buying your anger, they're buying your distrust, and they're
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using it against you. And most of the time it's
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pro wrestling. It's kayfabe.
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But what happens when it's not and someone like Charlie
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Kirk gets publicly executed?
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So let's look at the Kirk executions.
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Right.
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And I'm not here to say whether he was killed
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or not. I don't know. And whether like to me,
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it looks like he was killed. Candace Owens will tell
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you that he wasn't. There are people that will tell
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you that he was in on it and that it
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was a thing that went off in his neck and
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he didn't.
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Say he wasn't.
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Oh, there's a ton of nonsense about the Kirk thing.
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Candace is is is pushing that that he wasn't. killed,
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I believe, by Tyler Robinson, that he was killed by
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Israel or French Freemasons or something like that. And I've
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seen other conspiracies to where it was a patch on
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his neck that was fake blood, like in the movies
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where he didn't really die. I don't know if that
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one's Candace. They're all nonsense. So again, it's you're arguing
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about the event itself. And regardless of whether Charlie died
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or not, what happened afterwards is the exact same thing
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that you're seeing, which Erica Kirk was appointed to an
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Air Force board shortly after. You see Turning Point raising
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money off of it and basically blowing up to where
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they've created this fake fighting on the right between Candace
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and Erica Kirk, even though they're essentially, and even if
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the fighting is real between the two of them, it
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does the same thing and it creates a distraction where
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people are getting so caught up in the salacious nonsense
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that is going on with the people, they forget that
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what lies underneath that? Well, what I'm, what I was asking,
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that is the war in Iran. Right.
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Well, what I was asking was essentially, do you think
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that Charlie was in the way of a war in Iran?
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Because he was very much against, you know, you, you
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talked about turning point being embedded, you know, Charlie say
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what you want about him, but he had his beliefs
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and he stuck to them. He was against war and,
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He seemingly didn't want Turning Point to become the very
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thing that... I just don't think that he wanted Turning
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01:52:04.340 --> 01:52:08.399
Point to be this government lever. Could Erica have been
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introduced to him on purpose? I don't like to get conspiratorial,
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but it seems like Charlie might have been in the
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way of the endgame.
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It's possible. Or he could have been in on it.
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And my point is, it doesn't matter which one it is.
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Because if you're arguing about that, you're completely missing what
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the end game actually is in the first place anyway.
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So whether he was in the way of it or
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whether he was helping push it forward, it still happened.
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The infrastructure underneath it still exists. And it still created
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a distraction for people to allow them to put focus elsewhere.
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Well, then, yeah, they fought. They fought. Because if there
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were people celebrating it, there were people that were devastated
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by it, of course. It's our generation's JFK.
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To me, what it felt like was a message from the.
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Deep state saying, at any moment, not only can this
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get really real, But we can take back power. It
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01:53:21.449 --> 01:53:24.510
felt like a message that we're all getting a little
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bit too riled up. And it seemed like they wanted
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us to be put back in our place and go
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back to keeping your head in the sand. I don't
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know if it's had that effect, so to say.
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Well, look at what's happened since it's happened. Trump got reelected.
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In the first 10 days of his reelection, he created
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the Genesis Mission, which allowed artificial intelligence and these companies
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basically to run unchecked for like 10 years where they
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can't be regulated. It's created, again, multiple situations, whether it
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be Iran or what happened in Venezuela or Greenland, where
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we're zapping up these resources while at the same time
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we're telling people that there's an artificial God and that
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superintelligence exists. It happens at the same time where he's
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creating all these distractions, renaming everything after America or renaming
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01:54:13.520 --> 01:54:18.850
it after himself. In doing exactly what you were accusing
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his interns, whoever runs the White House Twitter account of doing.
2004
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It's not just the Twitter interns who are doing that.
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That's every facet of his government does that. It's all
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a distraction. He's there to be a distraction. He's there
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because people have.
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He's there to be the heel.
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Yeah, well, exactly. Or to be a baby face, depending
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on what your opinion is.
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Yeah, who you are.
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I tend to think he's there simply to just distract people.
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He is a hell of an entertainer, regardless of whether
2014
01:54:50.119 --> 01:54:52.970
you like him or not. He is entertaining. And people
2015
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put their focus on him the same way they put
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their focus on whether it be like a Candace or
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01:54:57.890 --> 01:55:02.750
a Tucker or Joe Rogan. It's we choose to be
2018
01:55:02.869 --> 01:55:05.989
entertained by people for the most part, as opposed to
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01:55:06.869 --> 01:55:10.109
creating our own environments. And I think that's part of
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01:55:10.170 --> 01:55:11.649
how we end up with the world that we're in,
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01:55:11.689 --> 01:55:15.149
because instead of researching these things, we allow other people
2022
01:55:15.189 --> 01:55:16.069
to shape our opinions.
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Yeah. So before we wrap, there's something I wanted to,
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there was one last thing I wanted to get to.
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01:55:27.460 --> 01:55:29.579
So yeah, like you said, you've kept this whole thing free,
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01:55:29.619 --> 01:55:35.659
self-funded and without an email list, of course. What do
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01:55:35.680 --> 01:55:39.199
you think that choice has done to protect you from
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being labeled something?
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Who gives a shit if I'm labeled that? I don't care.
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That's the thing is I don't think people get is
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I don't care. I'm here because there's A message underneath
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the person who's saying it. If I go away tomorrow
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01:55:57.250 --> 01:56:00.069
and this message gets even stronger, I'll fucking be the
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happiest person alive.
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Right?
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Because then I don't have to do any of this.
2037
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I don't really want to be a public figure. This
2038
01:56:06.300 --> 01:56:08.359
isn't the 80s where you can be a rock star
2039
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and do a ton of cocaine and party with chicks
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and nobody's going to notice. Everything is filmed. There really
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01:56:14.260 --> 01:56:14.960
is no.
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01:56:15.199 --> 01:56:17.409
Ask Michael Batista, guys.
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01:56:17.689 --> 01:56:21.069
Yeah. By the way. I'm 40 now. So like those
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are the things that I would have wanted when I
2045
01:56:22.329 --> 01:56:25.050
was 20. And I actually wanted to like be in
2046
01:56:25.069 --> 01:56:26.979
this industry and want to do this. Like now the
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01:56:27.020 --> 01:56:29.180
only reason why I'm doing this is because I genuinely
2048
01:56:29.260 --> 01:56:32.319
think that there's a sliver of hope. I think there's
2049
01:56:32.420 --> 01:56:35.850
information overload right now on the Internet. You have. a
2050
01:56:35.949 --> 01:56:39.390
population of people who are desperately searching for answers. And
2051
01:56:39.430 --> 01:56:41.409
I think if I can get to enough of them
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01:56:41.449 --> 01:56:43.770
and explain what I've explained today, and they hear it
2053
01:56:43.810 --> 01:56:46.829
from someone who wants nothing from them, but for them
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01:56:46.909 --> 01:56:49.430
to go dig and steel man through everything I'm saying,
2055
01:56:50.090 --> 01:56:53.250
it creates someone who's very different than the dynamics that
2056
01:56:53.289 --> 01:56:57.510
are shaped this ecosystem, where whether it be at the top,
2057
01:56:57.550 --> 01:57:00.300
people who are getting paid like Joe Rogan, $ 250 million
2058
01:57:00.399 --> 01:57:03.899
on Spotify, or these smaller podcasts, where shows like I
2059
01:57:03.939 --> 01:57:06.720
went on a show Thursday night and the kid who
2060
01:57:06.760 --> 01:57:09.119
interviewed me was a very nice guy, but he had
2061
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gold advertisements and like all of these things that I'm
2062
01:57:11.689 --> 01:57:14.829
calling out is grifts in the stop feeding the grifter documentary.
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Like he has all these advertisements on his show. And like,
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I don't think that like, I don't think he's like
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part of the military industrial complex or like he, the
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01:57:21.880 --> 01:57:23.279
fact that he even had me on a show, it's
2067
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like clearly he, either didn't know any better or is
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just someone like you who's willing to have conversations with
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people they might not necessarily agree with. But the point is,
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it's still part of an ecosystem that exists because you
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look at the people at top, like Joe Rogan, and
2072
01:57:38.970 --> 01:57:40.789
you think you have to do what they're doing to
2073
01:57:40.829 --> 01:57:43.810
get there. So if you, like me, don't have any
2074
01:57:43.939 --> 01:57:46.880
motivation to get there, I don't want to get there.
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I just want people to hear this. I don't give
2076
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a shit if it's from me. I don't care if
2077
01:57:50.159 --> 01:57:53.140
people steal everything that's on the engine or steal my videos.
2078
01:57:53.520 --> 01:57:55.439
I don't give a shit about any of that. I
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very simply just want a better world. I want critical
2080
01:57:58.909 --> 01:58:02.529
thought to be something that's not foreign to the average person.
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01:58:02.750 --> 01:58:07.409
I want us to be a functioning society of people
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who view each other like passengers on a ride. of
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01:58:11.079 --> 01:58:13.939
whatever this journey is, as opposed to, again, people that
2084
01:58:13.979 --> 01:58:17.039
are constantly trying to one-up and sell each other things
2085
01:58:17.140 --> 01:58:19.539
and trying to be at the top of a power
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structure that doesn't need to exist in the first place.
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So again, I hope I answered your question.
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01:58:28.630 --> 01:58:31.210
Yeah, what do you think about a guy like Nikola Tesla?
2089
01:58:33.590 --> 01:58:35.890
Stuff, again.
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Do you think he had the right idea?
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01:58:37.909 --> 01:58:44.760
I think the perception that Tesla is like this guy
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01:58:44.800 --> 01:58:46.819
who wanted free energy and was trying to do the
2093
01:58:46.859 --> 01:58:51.979
right things is certainly one that ignores his eugenics fakes.
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01:58:54.140 --> 01:58:57.020
And again, I don't think any of us really has
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01:58:57.060 --> 01:58:58.779
it figured out, including me. I'm sure there's a lot
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01:58:58.810 --> 01:59:01.550
of bad that I've said or done, or maybe I'm
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01:59:01.590 --> 01:59:07.069
wrong on some of this stuff, too. So I would
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like to think that Tesla was a good guy. I
2099
01:59:08.550 --> 01:59:10.409
would like to think that he wanted to do the
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01:59:10.470 --> 01:59:13.609
right things. But there's also some weird shit there. And
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01:59:13.630 --> 01:59:16.369
then there's also the fact that we live in a
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time where the national databases are controlled by criminals. And
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01:59:19.930 --> 01:59:22.729
have been controlled by criminals for years. So there's something
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called retrocausality, which means that the past can change the
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01:59:25.600 --> 01:59:28.100
future and the future can change the past. And that's
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01:59:28.140 --> 01:59:30.380
great in time travel movies. But in the real world,
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what that means is that when you have access to
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a national database and you're the military industrial complex, you
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01:59:35.659 --> 01:59:38.710
might not want the general public to know X, Y,
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01:59:38.699 --> 01:59:42.819
and Z about a certain situation. You can create a
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world of either fake retrocausality, like the Trump time travel
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stuff with Tesla and his Or you could just simply
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delete the information if no one knows that it exists. Again,
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I hope I'm not getting too crazy here by saying that.
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I don't think I am, right?
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No, no, no.
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I think that's more believable than time travel is the
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fact that people will edit and manipulate information the same
2119
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way that people, when they're being assholes, manipulate someone's Wikipedia
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page to say that he likes feet and that he
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eats his own shit or whatever they do. to whoever
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they're trying to attack. Like it's, I look how easy
2123
02:00:20.460 --> 02:00:24.119
a Wikipedia page can be manipulated. Like the Jim Carrey
2124
02:00:24.140 --> 02:00:27.260
death hoax. Do you remember that like a year ago? Yeah.
2125
02:00:27.560 --> 02:00:27.880
Yeah.
2126
02:00:28.279 --> 02:00:30.859
That's just the perfect example of retro cause Allen. And
2127
02:00:30.899 --> 02:00:33.420
eventually it gets figured out and it gets deemed as fake,
2128
02:00:33.439 --> 02:00:36.319
but imagine a situation to where it's something that it's
2129
02:00:36.340 --> 02:00:38.899
a lot more obscure than a celebrity that we can
2130
02:00:38.939 --> 02:00:42.939
prove is real because he's still alive. Right. So imagine
2131
02:00:43.000 --> 02:00:46.250
something more obscure, like the Baron Trump books. That were
2132
02:00:46.270 --> 02:00:50.090
written by Ingersoll Lockwood. And please tell me if anyone
2133
02:00:50.109 --> 02:00:51.789
has a copy of that that owned a copy of
2134
02:00:51.829 --> 02:00:54.829
that before 2016 or 2015. I would love to meet
2135
02:00:54.850 --> 02:00:56.850
you and see that copy. And I'm not talking about
2136
02:00:56.880 --> 02:00:58.640
the ones that are in the national databases of the
2137
02:00:58.680 --> 02:01:01.479
national libraries. I'm talking about an actual human that sold
2138
02:01:01.539 --> 02:01:05.579
that book before 2015 or 16. Because these are the
2139
02:01:05.600 --> 02:01:07.180
type of things that keep me up when I think
2140
02:01:07.220 --> 02:01:10.350
about shit like this. And how easy the human mind
2141
02:01:10.390 --> 02:01:13.409
can be sighed up by a military industrial complex who
2142
02:01:13.430 --> 02:01:15.710
has access to things that the general public might not
2143
02:01:15.770 --> 02:01:18.529
even think of needing to understand to know if they're
2144
02:01:18.550 --> 02:01:20.090
being sighed up.
2145
02:01:20.109 --> 02:01:22.590
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what's funny is I just
2146
02:01:22.649 --> 02:01:27.939
did a couple shows on like Mandela effects and a
2147
02:01:29.000 --> 02:01:33.380
guy was talking to me about, I was talking to
2148
02:01:33.399 --> 02:01:40.819
me about, what is it, Gibraltar and geographical Mandela effects.
2149
02:01:41.399 --> 02:01:47.939
And he said that he remembers Gibraltar being an island,
2150
02:01:48.630 --> 02:01:51.529
but in this reality, it's actually a peninsula.
2151
02:01:51.869 --> 02:01:52.689
It's not an island.
2152
02:01:53.329 --> 02:01:59.029
And he did show me some books that have it
2153
02:02:00.449 --> 02:02:04.869
listed in a book of islands. And it was predate,
2154
02:02:04.930 --> 02:02:07.810
like the date on the book And then you had
2155
02:02:08.710 --> 02:02:12.130
VHSs that kind of alluded to the same thing. And
2156
02:02:12.149 --> 02:02:15.250
it was all like, but even that to a degree
2157
02:02:15.289 --> 02:02:18.369
could be like faked. You can slap a sticker on
2158
02:02:18.409 --> 02:02:20.979
a VHS. I didn't see it get put into a
2159
02:02:21.399 --> 02:02:25.960
VCR and played. I just saw the VHS tape, right?
2160
02:02:25.979 --> 02:02:27.640
But anyone can fake that or the book.
2161
02:02:27.659 --> 02:02:29.619
Humans are also wrong a lot. Who's to say that
2162
02:02:29.640 --> 02:02:32.460
there wasn't an error in the book from like 200
2163
02:02:32.460 --> 02:02:35.920
or 300 years ago? And we have no way of knowing.
2164
02:02:35.979 --> 02:02:38.439
We didn't exist then. We weren't alive two, three hundred
2165
02:02:38.479 --> 02:02:41.770
years ago. We just have other information to cross source
2166
02:02:41.829 --> 02:02:44.670
with and see. And sometimes that conflicts. Like you look
2167
02:02:44.689 --> 02:02:49.710
at someone like Archaics, Jason Brashears and his differences that
2168
02:02:49.729 --> 02:02:52.119
he has with someone like Grant Hancock on the timeline
2169
02:02:52.159 --> 02:02:56.539
and whether we've existed for 10,000 years or whether we are.
2170
02:02:57.319 --> 02:03:00.140
what Jason says are only 6,000 years old or whatever
2171
02:03:00.159 --> 02:03:02.100
it is. And like the reality is, is neither one
2172
02:03:02.140 --> 02:03:04.300
really has any answers. Neither one has any proof, but
2173
02:03:04.319 --> 02:03:05.819
they're both trying to sell you that they do.
2174
02:03:07.239 --> 02:03:12.960
Well, I mean, I would say that like go back
2175
02:03:12.979 --> 02:03:19.560
to Lee Tepe and Carrie Ann Tepe seemingly prove that
2176
02:03:20.359 --> 02:03:22.000
we were not hunter gatherers.
2177
02:03:22.590 --> 02:03:24.350
I agree with that, but I don't think that you
2178
02:03:24.369 --> 02:03:27.050
can necessarily prove a timeline from carbon dating when there
2179
02:03:27.090 --> 02:03:28.970
are so many issues with carbon dating. And I think
2180
02:03:28.989 --> 02:03:31.789
that's where Jason's argument comes in. And again, I don't
2181
02:03:31.890 --> 02:03:34.649
think like I have an answer here, but I don't
2182
02:03:34.670 --> 02:03:37.850
think either one, whether it be Jason or Graham Hancock
2183
02:03:37.939 --> 02:03:40.260
necessarily have an answer to that either. I mean, we're
2184
02:03:40.300 --> 02:03:42.239
as good as the context that we have and the
2185
02:03:42.279 --> 02:03:45.260
technology that we have available to us. So we have
2186
02:03:45.279 --> 02:03:46.840
to put a lot of stock and faith in that
2187
02:03:46.880 --> 02:03:51.260
technology in order to really give that analysis our weight, right?
2188
02:03:52.069 --> 02:03:54.619
And again, this is, this is across the board. This
2189
02:03:54.680 --> 02:03:57.680
is not just this situation about Quebec. This is essentially
2190
02:03:57.739 --> 02:03:58.560
everything in life.
2191
02:03:59.520 --> 02:03:59.779
So.
2192
02:04:03.220 --> 02:04:06.279
Oh man, a million doors just fucking open for me.
2193
02:04:06.539 --> 02:04:07.140
I don't know why.
2194
02:04:07.159 --> 02:04:10.079
Um, I'm sorry. I know that sometimes I can be
2195
02:04:10.119 --> 02:04:12.960
a mind fuck, man. Like I, I like the rabbit
2196
02:04:13.000 --> 02:04:14.560
hole stuff. That's why I said before the interview, if
2197
02:04:14.579 --> 02:04:16.199
you need to like reel me back in and tell
2198
02:04:16.220 --> 02:04:18.460
me to shut up at points. No, no, no. I don't,
2199
02:04:18.479 --> 02:04:19.859
I don't do that. I don't do that.
2200
02:04:20.500 --> 02:04:23.960
Um, obviously people I think will, will point to the
2201
02:04:24.020 --> 02:04:28.279
idea that after world war two, the idea of eugenics was,
2202
02:04:29.159 --> 02:04:35.710
you know, widely discredited as pseudoscience, but I, I, I,
2203
02:04:36.789 --> 02:04:39.649
I don't, I don't like those things.
2204
02:04:39.909 --> 02:04:41.489
I don't like that word pseudoscience.
2205
02:04:41.529 --> 02:04:44.550
They discredit and they call it pseudoscience, but yet people
2206
02:04:44.590 --> 02:04:48.210
like Jack Parsons were, were doing weird experiments out in
2207
02:04:48.250 --> 02:04:50.810
the desert. God knows what him and, L. Ron Hubbard
2208
02:04:50.829 --> 02:04:53.010
were doing. I'm assuming it's similar to what happened to
2209
02:04:53.050 --> 02:04:56.010
Peter Thiel's hot tub, but they made that moon child, right?
2210
02:04:56.569 --> 02:04:59.630
So they take the occult very seriously. Or how put
2211
02:04:59.689 --> 02:05:06.180
off in Scientology. Dude, again, they take it very seriously.
2212
02:05:06.439 --> 02:05:08.300
The people who are at the top of these things
2213
02:05:08.340 --> 02:05:12.939
take the occult very seriously. So what's to say that
2214
02:05:13.439 --> 02:05:16.020
they're not just telling us it's pseudoscience because they don't
2215
02:05:16.039 --> 02:05:18.640
want us diving into the occult because it's very simply
2216
02:05:18.680 --> 02:05:21.399
an understanding of nature. They want us thinking that it's
2217
02:05:21.500 --> 02:05:25.020
demons and all of this nonsensical stuff that's going to
2218
02:05:25.060 --> 02:05:26.899
scare the shit out of us because if they have
2219
02:05:26.960 --> 02:05:30.479
that power over us where they have an understanding that
2220
02:05:30.560 --> 02:05:32.720
we don't, then they can use that to manipulate us.
2221
02:05:33.710 --> 02:05:39.029
And I honestly, I invite, like, if the devil wants
2222
02:05:39.130 --> 02:05:43.210
to come have a conversation with me, come.
2223
02:05:43.689 --> 02:05:46.890
Come have a conversation with me. I know my willpower.
2224
02:05:48.029 --> 02:05:52.930
I know that I'll be able to handle myself on, on.
2225
02:05:53.569 --> 02:05:56.949
But, but until I, until I see the devil, you
2226
02:05:56.970 --> 02:06:03.909
know what I mean? I, I, I don't really, you know.
2227
02:06:01.829 --> 02:06:02.250
What I mean?
2228
02:06:02.270 --> 02:06:04.970
I just think it's, it's a bedtime story, just like
2229
02:06:05.029 --> 02:06:05.770
Santa Claus.
2230
02:06:06.369 --> 02:06:09.149
Um, I view it like a subconscious. Yeah.
2231
02:06:09.170 --> 02:06:12.149
Do I, do I think evil exists? So how's a
2232
02:06:12.229 --> 02:06:13.069
fucking looting?
2233
02:06:14.109 --> 02:06:17.710
I came, I know what evil is. I came home
2234
02:06:17.810 --> 02:06:20.550
to it most of my life. I came home to
2235
02:06:20.609 --> 02:06:23.640
either Dr. Jekyll or Hyde. We didn't know which one
2236
02:06:23.680 --> 02:06:26.420
we were dealing with. So I know what fucking evil
2237
02:06:26.460 --> 02:06:30.600
looks like. You don't get to tell me. What I
2238
02:06:30.640 --> 02:06:35.020
need to know is where that evil comes from. And
2239
02:06:36.260 --> 02:06:40.800
I know it's Halloween and it's the time of believing
2240
02:06:40.840 --> 02:06:43.439
in all that and really tapping into all that stuff.
2241
02:06:43.979 --> 02:06:49.510
But what I think, like even talking about witchcraft, even
2242
02:06:49.550 --> 02:06:50.430
in talking to some of.
2243
02:06:50.430 --> 02:06:52.630
The witches, the current witches in Salem.
2244
02:06:53.189 --> 02:06:56.750
They talk about witchcraft back in the day as being
2245
02:06:56.810 --> 02:07:02.640
way more holistic and being one with nature, right? More
2246
02:07:02.920 --> 02:07:12.380
like blessings than black magic. But again, Hollywood and storytelling
2247
02:07:12.439 --> 02:07:15.340
is really, it's like a game of phone.
2248
02:07:16.060 --> 02:07:19.920
It's fear mongering. It's Alex Jones nonsense. It's the same
2249
02:07:19.979 --> 02:07:22.010
way he makes his money if you really think about it.
2250
02:07:22.859 --> 02:07:25.600
It's just fear mongering. It's scaring people off of doing
2251
02:07:25.659 --> 02:07:29.430
any actual research and seeing things for themselves. And it's funny,
2252
02:07:29.449 --> 02:07:32.689
you brought up the Salem and the witches. Again, nature.
2253
02:07:32.949 --> 02:07:37.010
We're talking about nature. We're talking about an understanding of
2254
02:07:37.109 --> 02:07:39.909
the world around us. And it can either be beautiful
2255
02:07:40.170 --> 02:07:42.829
or it can be brutal. It is both things. And
2256
02:07:43.010 --> 02:07:46.720
it is shaped by Our perception of that and our
2257
02:07:46.779 --> 02:07:50.949
perception creates our reality. So I think we can choose
2258
02:07:51.010 --> 02:07:53.970
what lens we see things through. Even if at times
2259
02:07:54.010 --> 02:07:56.149
they are brutal, we can try to see the beauty.
2260
02:07:57.069 --> 02:08:00.659
And that's, again, it's a choice that we make. individually.
2261
02:08:00.680 --> 02:08:03.319
So you talk about black magic or people say white magic.
2262
02:08:03.760 --> 02:08:07.340
That's just the choice of your intention. So a tool
2263
02:08:07.399 --> 02:08:10.579
is a tool. And the intention is what gives the
2264
02:08:10.640 --> 02:08:15.229
tool its meaning. So whether we're talking about artificial intelligence
2265
02:08:15.890 --> 02:08:19.899
and LLMs, which are technically magic, Or whether you want
2266
02:08:19.920 --> 02:08:25.369
to talk about the occult and seances and all this stuff, which, again,
2267
02:08:25.590 --> 02:08:26.949
come down to meaning.
2268
02:08:28.729 --> 02:08:33.670
So your intent informs the end process.
2269
02:08:34.210 --> 02:08:37.149
Yes, that's my belief. And I think sometimes the subconscious
2270
02:08:37.189 --> 02:08:40.149
can sneak into the intent. And maybe sometimes where you
2271
02:08:40.189 --> 02:08:42.619
think you have good intent. You may have bad intent.
2272
02:08:42.659 --> 02:08:44.500
It's like when you eat acid and you think that
2273
02:08:44.520 --> 02:08:46.380
you're in a good mood. God, I thought.
2274
02:08:46.159 --> 02:08:50.689
You were about to say something different, bro. Yeah. No. I.
2275
02:08:52.810 --> 02:08:54.010
I'm curious. Where do you think I was going?
2276
02:08:55.289 --> 02:08:55.989
Eat ass.
2277
02:08:56.670 --> 02:08:57.130
Oh, no.
2278
02:08:57.170 --> 02:08:59.869
That's what I thought I heard at first. And then
2279
02:08:59.890 --> 02:09:01.770
I heard the end and I went, oh, okay.
2280
02:09:02.569 --> 02:09:04.430
I'm happy I'm a married man because I don't have
2281
02:09:04.449 --> 02:09:06.489
to worry about the new dating world and eating ass.
2282
02:09:06.770 --> 02:09:10.720
That's so beyond like... God, I'm an old man. I
2283
02:09:10.720 --> 02:09:14.000
don't know if he's like that. I'm 40. I missed
2284
02:09:14.020 --> 02:09:16.039
that boat and I'm happy I did. I know enough
2285
02:09:16.060 --> 02:09:18.819
about E. coli that I'm. Yeah, no, I don't know.
2286
02:09:19.539 --> 02:09:22.020
I've never been a dirt road fan. I'm all good.
2287
02:09:22.050 --> 02:09:25.409
I thought you said though, and I was like, wait,
2288
02:09:25.449 --> 02:09:26.850
what the fuck are we talking about?
2289
02:09:26.869 --> 02:09:27.729
Very funny.
2290
02:09:27.770 --> 02:09:28.050
Yeah.
2291
02:09:28.130 --> 02:09:31.350
Eat acid. Yeah. So it's like eating acid. Like you
2292
02:09:31.369 --> 02:09:33.390
can go into it with good intentions, right? Where you
2293
02:09:33.409 --> 02:09:36.180
think that you're having a good trip. And the next
2294
02:09:36.220 --> 02:09:38.060
thing you know, you're bringing up some shit from like
2295
02:09:38.100 --> 02:09:40.079
five years ago. Maybe you ate a bad ass, some
2296
02:09:40.260 --> 02:09:43.979
nasty stripper, and you forgot about it. And all of
2297
02:09:44.000 --> 02:09:45.520
a sudden it's haunting you and you forgot that you
2298
02:09:45.550 --> 02:09:49.569
never got tested afterwards. So like, I've had some bad trips.
2299
02:09:49.630 --> 02:09:51.590
I've had some really bad trips to where I've had
2300
02:09:51.630 --> 02:09:53.510
to face my own demons. And I've also had some
2301
02:09:53.529 --> 02:09:56.489
things happen in my life where I've kind of dove
2302
02:09:56.569 --> 02:10:00.640
into the dark night of the soul, the subconscious, the shadow,
2303
02:10:01.020 --> 02:10:03.319
and had to pull myself out of some pretty dark
2304
02:10:03.399 --> 02:10:08.699
places to where even entertaining thoughts like this could be
2305
02:10:08.739 --> 02:10:10.560
a thing as opposed to like, most people get so
2306
02:10:10.619 --> 02:10:13.020
caught up in like their day to day grind of
2307
02:10:13.060 --> 02:10:17.000
like their relationships with people and how this happened or
2308
02:10:17.039 --> 02:10:19.859
how that happened. I have a real hard time being
2309
02:10:19.899 --> 02:10:23.850
involved in like what most people consider the real world.
2310
02:10:23.909 --> 02:10:27.010
I'm kind of a fucking space cadet. So like, I
2311
02:10:27.069 --> 02:10:29.750
think that process happened over the course of a few
2312
02:10:29.789 --> 02:10:31.590
dark nights in the soul and some pretty bad things
2313
02:10:31.630 --> 02:10:35.350
happening to me and me having to leave essentially the
2314
02:10:35.689 --> 02:10:40.800
external and travel into the internal and figure out who
2315
02:10:40.819 --> 02:10:42.939
the person looking back at me in the mirror is
2316
02:10:42.979 --> 02:10:45.420
and whether I'm comfortable and okay with that person. And
2317
02:10:45.579 --> 02:10:47.960
I've gotten to a point where I'm very happy with
2318
02:10:47.979 --> 02:10:51.869
who I am. And I think that's essentially needed for
2319
02:10:51.890 --> 02:10:56.430
not just the individual, but for humanity. And I'm sure
2320
02:10:56.449 --> 02:10:58.010
there are people in your audience who have done that
2321
02:10:58.029 --> 02:10:59.470
and are shaking their heads and going, yeah. And then
2322
02:10:59.489 --> 02:11:02.579
I'm sure there are some people in your audience who are, uh,
2323
02:11:03.250 --> 02:11:04.510
I have no clue what the fuck I'm talking about
2324
02:11:04.529 --> 02:11:08.050
by saying that. And like, I had just one more
2325
02:11:08.090 --> 02:11:09.970
quick thing. I had someone who brought up like the
2326
02:11:10.010 --> 02:11:13.329
Kundalini experiment to me. Like we were talking about it
2327
02:11:13.550 --> 02:11:15.770
and like people think that they reach enlightenment and like
2328
02:11:15.829 --> 02:11:18.649
all of a sudden it's over. It's like, no, never
2329
02:11:18.800 --> 02:11:21.300
ending journey. It's a fire that you have to constantly
2330
02:11:21.380 --> 02:11:24.909
tend to of like, Yeah, you might figure out some
2331
02:11:24.970 --> 02:11:28.449
cool things about reality and about like our shared existence
2332
02:11:28.489 --> 02:11:30.649
and consciousness. But the reality is we all still have
2333
02:11:30.670 --> 02:11:33.029
to shit, eat, take out the garbage, right? We all
2334
02:11:33.050 --> 02:11:36.000
still exist in the shared real world together. And if
2335
02:11:36.039 --> 02:11:40.600
you're constantly detached from whatever this reality is, it's going
2336
02:11:40.619 --> 02:11:41.800
to be very tough to make it better.
2337
02:11:41.819 --> 02:11:44.500
Yeah, that's a very good point.
2338
02:11:44.859 --> 02:11:46.579
Yeah, so like there are people that like think that
2339
02:11:46.619 --> 02:11:50.359
like just because they've hit this like enlightenment stage or
2340
02:11:50.380 --> 02:11:52.300
whatever they feel that is that like oh no the
2341
02:11:52.340 --> 02:11:54.560
rest of things don't matter things will figure themselves out
2342
02:11:54.600 --> 02:11:56.319
it's like no asshole you have to help us figure
2343
02:11:56.340 --> 02:12:00.119
that out that's how this works that's.
2344
02:11:59.359 --> 02:12:02.159
A very good point you know the same you know
2345
02:12:02.180 --> 02:12:06.180
you brought up acid and uh just psychedelic experiences in
2346
02:12:06.239 --> 02:12:10.890
general like i you know with in respect to like
2347
02:12:10.939 --> 02:12:15.250
a kundalini experience you know that's the closest i've ever
2348
02:12:15.329 --> 02:12:21.199
been to a religious moment um and After a few days,
2349
02:12:21.220 --> 02:12:26.840
the things that you experienced in the psychedelic trip start,
2350
02:12:27.020 --> 02:12:31.380
I mean, they get less profound with each hour that passes, right?
2351
02:12:31.560 --> 02:12:33.810
And you start to look at it more like a memory.
2352
02:12:34.100 --> 02:12:37.789
But I remember feeling that I knew why the wind
2353
02:12:37.890 --> 02:12:42.529
was blowing the grass. And I could see the system
2354
02:12:42.550 --> 02:12:46.170
that was the trees and the birds and the bugs and.
2355
02:12:46.109 --> 02:12:48.789
The bees and everything. I could see the system.
2356
02:12:49.229 --> 02:12:53.800
So I grew a new respect for that system through
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an experience that I've had. Again, it was far more
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profound having the experience, but I still remember the lesson learned.
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02:13:05.880 --> 02:13:08.819
So I think that's how we need to look at life, right?
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Is a series of teachings.
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I think you're right. I had a similar experience. I
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haven't eaten like acid or smoked DMT in a while.
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I said this in an interview with Michael Deacon that
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like I'm at a frequency where I'm very comfortable. So
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02:13:22.840 --> 02:13:24.979
like I don't need to hit that reset button. But
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02:13:25.020 --> 02:13:27.100
the last time I did, I had an experience that
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02:13:27.149 --> 02:13:29.569
was very similar to yours. And it actually drove me
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into looking at the Ethiopian Bibles. And about the story
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of Adam and Eve and about how that seems like
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we've lost whatever quantum connection we had to the earth
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and nature by Eve eating the fruit. And again, I
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02:13:44.880 --> 02:13:48.880
think this stuff is allegory because I think that's where
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they became conscious. That's where they started having shame, where
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they covered themselves with the figs. And again, when you
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02:13:55.350 --> 02:13:57.770
start looking at that story, just through the lens of physics,
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02:13:57.829 --> 02:14:01.340
you get What I'm talking about now, it's kind of
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like there's a connection with nature. We have, but we
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02:14:05.680 --> 02:14:09.039
all don't necessarily respect. And it takes some type of
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psychedelic for us to really appreciate. But again, it's like
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02:14:12.800 --> 02:14:14.359
a fire. It needs to be tended. It goes in
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02:14:14.470 --> 02:14:16.710
and out. And unless we constantly are tending that, it
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goes away. What was that fruit? What was that?
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What was the root of all evil?
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Root of all evil. Yeah.
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02:14:26.569 --> 02:14:28.460
Well, in the Adam and Eve story.
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Oh, it was the tree of knowledge and the tree
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of life. It was an apple, I believe, was the
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actual fruit.
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Right. And when you eat the apple, right, you tend to,
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you know, I'll leave it there. I'll leave it there.
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But I really think that more.
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People need to go experience the world around them and
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remember why not, you know, a cityscape is, is beautiful,
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but a mountain, a set of mountain range, there's, it
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02:15:13.350 --> 02:15:15.609
does something different, right?
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Get out of the ambient light.
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We all have our own things, right? I think each
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individual experience is not shared.
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I fucking love the city. I love the noise. I
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02:15:29.489 --> 02:15:34.760
like the hustle and bustle. But I also love retreating
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02:15:34.880 --> 02:15:39.840
to the woods and I love going to Maine and
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02:15:39.920 --> 02:15:44.000
I like going to Vermont.
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I love experiencing.
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The older I get, the more I appreciate a view.
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02:15:50.170 --> 02:15:52.109
I don't know how old you are, but you're going
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02:15:52.130 --> 02:15:54.729
to get to a point where you start birdwatching. That's like,
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02:15:55.130 --> 02:15:57.890
I've hit that. I've gotten it.
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02:15:58.489 --> 02:16:05.039
First off, you don't even know. So I'm 33, by
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02:16:05.060 --> 02:16:09.220
the way. I do, I have hit the burn phase already.
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02:16:09.819 --> 02:16:14.239
And anyone who's been to the studio knows most likely
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02:16:14.920 --> 02:16:20.670
that I am infatuated with fucking burns. I have, man, dude,
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02:16:20.710 --> 02:16:24.010
you're just going to set me off with things. I
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02:16:24.090 --> 02:16:26.909
am so into birds that I record them in slow motion,
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02:16:27.210 --> 02:16:30.189
their calls. And I listen back to their calls in
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02:16:30.689 --> 02:16:32.649
like hyper slow motion.
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02:16:33.149 --> 02:16:36.709
Dude, there's something there. There's like, it's a, you can.
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02:16:36.629 --> 02:16:42.430
Hear the inflections in their calls. And then I have,
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02:16:44.170 --> 02:16:48.430
the birds are my pets here. I have, not as
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02:16:48.479 --> 02:16:51.799
much as my dog, but every morning, part of.
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02:16:51.799 --> 02:16:55.389
Our routine now, is filling the bird feeders. The bird
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02:16:55.430 --> 02:16:56.370
feeders are see-through.
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02:16:56.389 --> 02:16:59.110
They're attached to my window so that when the birds
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02:16:59.170 --> 02:17:00.850
land on it, I can see them and I can
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02:17:00.870 --> 02:17:01.579
fucking film them.
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02:17:02.239 --> 02:17:04.979
Very cool. I do something similar. I have bird feeders
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outside my house.
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I want to get a bunch more for next season.
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Yeah.
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I have like a bird hotel.
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02:17:15.040 --> 02:17:17.069
So I have four feeders that are all next to
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each other on one post and then four feeders that
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02:17:19.149 --> 02:17:21.750
are next to each other on another post. And I'm
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02:17:21.770 --> 02:17:24.000
in the woods in Pennsylvania, so I have like rabbits
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02:17:24.059 --> 02:17:26.079
that I see all the time. We have a hedgehog
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02:17:26.120 --> 02:17:28.959
that lives under my shipping container. It's the same hedgehog
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I've had for years.
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02:17:30.420 --> 02:17:31.079
My dog.
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02:17:31.739 --> 02:17:36.260
I certainly appreciate nature. I really come to respect it
2439
02:17:36.739 --> 02:17:39.170
after all of this journeying, whatever you want to call it,
2440
02:17:39.170 --> 02:17:41.430
whatever this is that got me to this point.
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02:17:42.389 --> 02:17:46.270
Yeah. So where can people find that search engine? I
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02:17:46.309 --> 02:17:47.450
almost called it a search engine.
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02:17:47.489 --> 02:17:49.709
Jesus. In a weird way, it kind of almost is.
2444
02:17:50.020 --> 02:17:53.299
it's just not like clearly it's not an llm and
2445
02:17:53.340 --> 02:17:55.440
it's not google but it is in a way a
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02:17:55.479 --> 02:17:59.190
search engine it's matt that's yeah that's where can people
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02:17:59.209 --> 02:18:09.170
find that mo ketchup's.com so that's m-o-k-e-t-c-h-u-p-s.com And on the
2448
02:18:09.309 --> 02:18:11.950
site is the map itself. You have the predictions and
2449
02:18:11.969 --> 02:18:15.430
the scorecards, which, again, don't I'm not Oracle. Nobody's an
2450
02:18:15.489 --> 02:18:18.989
Oracle there. No Oracle exists. It's a bunch of like
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02:18:19.450 --> 02:18:25.149
predictions that were made using physics and trying to. Again,
2452
02:18:25.170 --> 02:18:27.370
psychohistory is you can predict groups, but if there are
2453
02:18:27.409 --> 02:18:31.309
enough outliers, predictions change. And I'm very, very hopeful that
2454
02:18:31.350 --> 02:18:34.040
those predictions can change if enough of us are loud enough,
2455
02:18:34.079 --> 02:18:36.780
long enough, and get a full understanding of what Gallum
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02:18:36.799 --> 02:18:41.059
Theory means. But again, the website, mokechups.com. The articles are there.
2457
02:18:41.079 --> 02:18:43.719
The videos are there. I would suggest for anybody who's
2458
02:18:43.760 --> 02:18:46.030
just starting with this stuff to start with the videos
2459
02:18:46.049 --> 02:18:49.459
and then go to the articles. Everything is free. You
2460
02:18:49.479 --> 02:18:52.920
can also very simply just put like gray aliens or
2461
02:18:52.940 --> 02:18:56.860
Elon Musk into the search engine and it will create
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02:18:57.000 --> 02:19:01.219
an entire web of why they matter, the who, what, why, when, how,
2463
02:19:01.579 --> 02:19:04.500
and where, and then everything that connects to them. Or
2464
02:19:04.520 --> 02:19:06.479
at least every piece that I possibly could connect. Again,
2465
02:19:06.540 --> 02:19:08.639
one person, I'm not perfect. So there's going to be mistakes.
2466
02:19:09.260 --> 02:19:13.450
And what I like is that you're pulling primary sources mostly.
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02:19:13.489 --> 02:19:17.149
Yeah. I'm trying to connect as many primary sources as
2468
02:19:17.229 --> 02:19:19.469
I can because I just spent an hour and a
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02:19:19.510 --> 02:19:21.409
half or two hours, however long we've been on telling
2470
02:19:21.450 --> 02:19:24.670
you that people's words mean jack shit and that you
2471
02:19:24.709 --> 02:19:27.979
should look past them and look into the actual sources
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02:19:28.020 --> 02:19:30.100
of what they're talking about. And then even look past
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02:19:30.120 --> 02:19:32.719
that and go follow the money and figure out the, again,
2474
02:19:32.739 --> 02:19:35.360
the who, what, where, when, why, and how of all
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02:19:35.379 --> 02:19:37.569
of these things. That's what journalism used to be before
2476
02:19:37.579 --> 02:19:39.930
it turned into the salacious bullshit that we have now.
2477
02:19:41.209 --> 02:19:44.549
This bottom feeding journalism where you can essentially make any
2478
02:19:44.629 --> 02:19:47.469
claim without having to have any credible evidence. So I
2479
02:19:47.530 --> 02:19:49.530
tried to create the way in a way that I
2480
02:19:49.549 --> 02:19:53.530
was taught that journalism should be done. And again, I'm
2481
02:19:53.569 --> 02:19:56.329
not a journalism or a journalist. I'm not a researcher.
2482
02:19:56.889 --> 02:19:59.569
I am not a content creator. I am an idiot
2483
02:20:00.049 --> 02:20:03.450
in a boxing garage in his boxing ring in his
2484
02:20:03.469 --> 02:20:06.379
garage who just compiled a bunch of information, has a
2485
02:20:06.420 --> 02:20:10.219
bunch of questions and wants people to journey with me
2486
02:20:10.440 --> 02:20:14.940
on this exploration so we can figure some stuff out. Okay.
2487
02:20:15.260 --> 02:20:20.559
Well, dude, You've been a really, really fun conversation. This
2488
02:20:20.579 --> 02:20:21.940
has really been a good time.
2489
02:20:22.420 --> 02:20:25.579
Again, we don't have to agree on everything for us
2490
02:20:25.600 --> 02:20:29.540
to have civil debate, civil discussion, and be able to
2491
02:20:29.600 --> 02:20:31.700
shake hands at the end of it and go, yeah, man,
2492
02:20:31.819 --> 02:20:34.360
I think, you know, as long as we can look
2493
02:20:34.459 --> 02:20:40.829
at each other and find common ground, that's all that matters.
2494
02:20:41.370 --> 02:20:43.030
I agree. And I thank you so much for having
2495
02:20:43.069 --> 02:20:45.170
me on. And very simply, if anyone really has that
2496
02:20:45.209 --> 02:20:47.909
big of a problem with me too, like sign a waiver.
2497
02:20:48.110 --> 02:20:51.530
I live in Pennsylvania. I got a ring. I got gloves.
2498
02:20:51.950 --> 02:20:56.670
We can throw hands, knees, elbows, feet. I, uh, again,
2499
02:20:56.719 --> 02:20:59.420
I'm a very fun guy to like, I'm not saying you,
2500
02:20:59.459 --> 02:21:01.319
of course, I'm just saying like anybody in your audience,
2501
02:21:01.360 --> 02:21:04.139
like shit. I'm a very fun guy. Yeah.
2502
02:21:04.260 --> 02:21:04.639
Yeah.
2503
02:21:06.549 --> 02:21:10.290
I'll come spar. I'm down for that. You're not too
2504
02:21:10.309 --> 02:21:11.170
far away either.
2505
02:21:11.229 --> 02:21:13.770
So open invite, man. I'd love to do this again.
2506
02:21:13.809 --> 02:21:16.969
So whenever we'll figure it out off there. Yeah. Yeah.
2507
02:21:17.389 --> 02:21:17.950
All right.
2508
02:21:18.049 --> 02:21:22.090
Everyone else might be listening in the future or join
2509
02:21:22.149 --> 02:21:25.639
us with that impromptu. I wasn't able to promote it much.
2510
02:21:26.219 --> 02:21:27.280
I didn't even know if I was going to do
2511
02:21:27.319 --> 02:21:30.120
this episode live because I had so much editing to
2512
02:21:30.139 --> 02:21:34.760
do from the Austin thing. I was like, I can't
2513
02:21:34.799 --> 02:21:37.899
possibly add another edit to it. So I had to go,
2514
02:21:37.920 --> 02:21:41.399
I had to do this live. But I think that is,
2515
02:21:42.059 --> 02:21:44.579
it's always a fun medium as well to be able
2516
02:21:44.649 --> 02:21:47.969
to engage with people in real time, especially in a
2517
02:21:48.010 --> 02:21:51.409
conversation like this, which is our early time.
2518
02:21:51.549 --> 02:21:56.489
So thank you so much, everybody. Stay humble, stay kind, and.
2519
02:21:56.409 --> 02:22:01.129
Most importantly, stay vigilant. Well, I don't, oh my gosh.
2520
02:22:02.409 --> 02:22:04.719
I said, I almost said, we probably will see you
2521
02:22:04.780 --> 02:22:10.790
next time. We will see you next time. Make sure
2522
02:22:10.809 --> 02:22:15.290
to like, share and subscribe. Oh, this has been a
2523
02:22:15.309 --> 02:22:15.649
good time.
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Have a good one, guys. See you next.