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We vibing with another show. Tell me, everybody,
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can you catch this flow? We're breaking down
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mental glasses. Do you know who we with? Tony.
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Welcome back to another episode of the Tony Dixon
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and Friends podcast, where our goal is to educate
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and inspire you to break those mental glass ceilings
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in your life. I'm here today with my big brother,
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Mr. KBZ, Kecalf Bailey. What's up, Kecalf? What's
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up, man? Life is good, man. Life is wonderful.
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Come on, man. That's what I'm talking about.
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That's what I'm talking about. Hey, I think iron
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sharpens iron, bro. It does. Ready to get better
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today? I'm ready. Let's go, man. I'm here also
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today with the former Dallas Cowboy and author
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of the book Beyond the Glass. My big brother
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and yours too, man. Y 'all make sure y 'all like
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and share and subscribe to his podcast. And go
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and buy his book. Yeah. Mr. Tony Dixon. Hey.
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T .D., what's up, man? What's going on, man?
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I like that, man. Go and put the plug in there
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about the book. Yeah, go on and buy. You can
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get it on Amazon. And if you don't want to get
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it on Amazon, go to TonyDixon .com. TonyDixon
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.com. Go down the tab. Get the book. You get
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what you need. Come on, man. Yes, sir. So, Tony,
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we've been on a journey for a while, and we started
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with the podcast, and the podcast launched to
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what we would like to call a movement. And that
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movement is the alignment experience where you
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focus on three A's. Make sure you get a close
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-up on this. You got awareness, acceptance, and
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today we're going to talk about... alignment.
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Tony, first off, for our viewers that want to
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be a part of this journey with us and they want
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to join in with the alignment experience, where
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can they go and find the shirts? You can actually
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go and get it from the website. So if you go
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to TonyDixon .com, you scroll on down, you see
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the store, you can click on it, you can see all
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these shirts. Every shirt that you see here are
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available as well as some other shirts. that
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are along with the alignment experience. You
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good, bro? I'm good, man. You good, sis? It's
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definitely on there, both of them. Live heaven,
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pray always is my favorite one. On there. On
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there. Mindset is everything. On there. Believe.
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On there. And more. So these also make for good
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Father's Day gifts, birthday gifts. Christmas
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presents, whatever, man. Juneteenth. That's right.
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Make sure you go out and support the cause and
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support the movement. Go to TonyDixon .com and
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get you some merch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely.
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But Tony, so for those that this may be their
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first time logging in and checking us out. I
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want to set the stage and rewind a little bit.
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We had the podcast, which was a vision of yours
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that you wanted to share your life story about
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trials, tribulations, successes and failures,
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ups and downs, and all the fun things. You also
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decided to write a book, but now through the
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podcast, Kecalf and I have been on this journey
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with you, but also, Kecalf, we've been on this
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journey growing and developing ourselves. Absolutely.
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Right? And you're now going to another level
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with the alignment experience. Talk to us about
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the alignment experience. What is that? Yeah,
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the alignment experience is bringing it all together.
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This is really the culmination of intentionality,
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work that we've done to now see that, hey, as
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the work we've done, what is the next level of
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this? The next level of this is now that we are
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further along in our journey, now that we are
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better aligned with who we were purposed to be,
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the thing we have to do now is give it back.
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We have to pay it forward. So now we're going
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back and talking about these principles. We're
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bringing the show live. We're starting to do
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workshops in different cities, and we're bringing
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the whole framework of awareness, acceptance,
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alignment to those cities, to those communities,
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to those brothers. And this is something that's
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going to scale. This is going to be around for
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a long time, and I'm really excited about what
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we're able to do through the work we've been
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able to do to show people that, hey, if we can
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do it, you can definitely do it. Yeah. So I think
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when you go through those three A's and through
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the discipleship, Kev, on a previous episode,
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you talked about awareness, and you talked about
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your journey through awareness, right? So tell
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us about that real quick. Yeah, so for me, the
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first piece of it is the beginning of the three
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A's is awareness. And so what that looked like
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for me is in a sense of having a false sense
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of awareness and moving from that false sense
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of awareness to being unaware and then walking
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into true awareness of where I was and what that
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does to kind of just summarize the story. is
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that God making me come to the realization that
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I put my identity in things that were meant to
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develop me rather than placing my identity in
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him. And so it came flooding to me in his voice.
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to me that I needed to place my identity in him.
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And I was unaware that that's the way I was moving
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through life. Yeah. But we had also talked about
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being aware of things that we're doing, times
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that we're spending and activities that we have,
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whatever that is. And you receiving feedback.
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So you've been made aware and awareness can mean
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anything to you. We want to be clear that awareness
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can be good or bad. Because I think, Tony, you
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also share with awareness that one of the company
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executives made you aware of more potential that
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was in you. That's right. Is that right? That's
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right. That's right. And I never had it expressed
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in that way before. So all the time I was sitting
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there searching for, even questioning in some
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cases, man, what am I good at? Like that was
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the first time in my life somebody said, this
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is how I see you. This is what you're good. It
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was a blind spot. And that blind spot actually
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encouraged me to press on a little further. Yeah.
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So now we go from awareness, whether it's, you
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know, activities that you have, blind spots that
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you have, high potential that you have. But now
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we want to talk about accepting that feedback.
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accepting that position in a previous episode
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I talked about receiving feedback from you know
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from my mentor and as me and we often get defensive
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with feedback you know kill if you talked about
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receiving feedback from your kids I just want
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to say he checked us Tim Tony you talked about
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receiving feedback From your wife and exercises
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and activities and positions that you had to
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find yourself in. But I think in all three scenarios,
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that feedback was designed to make us better.
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But too often, we shut down the feedback. We
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don't position ourselves to receive the feedback.
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But now that you're made aware, now that you
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accept the feedback, the goal is to walk away.
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The goal is to challenge yourself to take it
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all in and now get aligned. Now get aligned.
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So Tony, talk about the alignment piece of the
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alignment experience and how you would expect
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the viewers, the listeners, and the readers of
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your book to become aware, accept, and now walk
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away aligned. No, this is really good because,
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you know, like we say, awareness is all about
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honesty. It's really all about honesty, man.
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And acceptance, you know, really want to call
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this out. Acceptance is not surrender. Acceptance
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doesn't mean you surrender to that's just who
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I am. Because a lot of times in my example, my
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surrender was, look, you guys tell me who I am.
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This is who I am. Right? So once I got past that
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surrender and understood it like, hey, it's another
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dimension, another level to that, what I then
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realized is some of the reasons I was not aligned
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can be broken down in this example. Just like
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a runner, right? I can be a runner and run 100
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miles in the wrong direction. So here you go,
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you running. You're gaining distance. You're
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moving along in your life, but it's in the wrong
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direction. And that, to me, is an example of
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being unaligned, right? Alignment sometimes is
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about subtraction. What are you going to remove
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from your life? What's distracting you? Right?
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What's upsetting you? Right? What is causing
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you not to forgive? Right? What is causing you
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not to spend more time with your kids? What career
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move promotion may take you from the responsibilities
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of being the man you were supposed to be? We
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don't talk about this enough in terms of what
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being aligned truly looks like. Like, sometimes
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the image that we have of balance in life is
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actually not what's meant to balance you. Certain
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aspects of your life, we talked about this on
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the episode before, sometimes you be put in a
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position where you do have enough time to be
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the man that you was meant to be. But guess what?
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It may not be that promotion that you had in
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your head. You may not be promoted because you're
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in a season of your life that gives you an opportunity
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to spend more time with your kid, to spend more
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time with your wife, to spend more time with
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your church family, spend more time in your community,
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to spend more time discipling. And had you taken
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that job, had you taken that promotion, you would
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have been misaligned to being the fullness of
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who you are. So when we talk about alignment,
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I really want to talk about that subtraction
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piece, because for me. It truly meant redefining
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what success looked like and really focusing
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on what truly gets me in alignment with God.
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And I will tell you that a lot of things that
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I had in terms of the view of being aligned were
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worldly views. They were all tied to something.
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They were all tied to things, not of who I was,
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but something that I did. It was titles. It was
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how many zeros I got. It was the car that I drive,
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the house I have. You know, all of these things
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that are tangible items. But at the end of the
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day, when all of that is gone, who am I? And
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we talked about early in early episodes of...
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Having success and getting to that point to where
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we experience emptiness. Why would you experience
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emptiness when everything you thought you dreamed
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of you've now achieved and now you feel empty?
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Why? The reason is because it was never meant
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to fulfill your passions and purposes. Yeah,
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you thought it looks good to have the title.
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I'm not and I'm not pushing back on anybody that
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has that ambition. Ambition is great. Ambition
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is great to have, but you have to have ambition,
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in my opinion, in the right area. And that area
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is like where the passion truly aligns to your
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purpose. If you're not aligned to your purpose,
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I don't care how much money they give you. I
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don't care what title you get. I don't care how
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many degrees you got. You're not going to be
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happy. You're not going to be joyful. You're
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not going to have you're not going to experience
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the the true life of exceedingly abundantly.
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Right. So. What I want people to understand today,
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once you go through awareness, once you go through
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acceptance, that's just the first phase of this
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process. Right? I told you in my book, I said
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I was aware of who I was for over 40 years. Once
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I accepted it, I accepted it by getting in the
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right spaces, talking to the right people, having
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the right mentors, putting people in the right
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category, starting to purge people out of my
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life to now remove the distractions and the noise
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so I can now see clearly, like, okay, what do
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I need to do to better myself? Alignment to me
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looked like waking up every morning and giving
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the first part of my day to God. That's what
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alignment looked like to me. So I went through
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and did the Bible in one year, right? So every
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morning I was getting up and doing that. Alignment
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looking like cutting off those soul ties that
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I had with some people that were holding me back.
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Alignment looked like... turning down a few jobs
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that I thought I knew by the money would look
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good, but it wasn't truly aligned to what would
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make Tony be in a position to have the Tony Dixon
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podcast to write the book and do all these other
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things. What alignment looked like to me was
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being open to have a conversation with my wife
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about something that I didn't want to really
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talk about, but I knew if I wanted to get to
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the next level of marriage, I had to have that
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conversation. What alignment looked like is opening
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up to my brothers and having vulnerable. We had
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a lot of vulnerable conversations that we haven't
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talked about on this podcast because it's not
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meant to be on this podcast. But we had those
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conversations where you checked me and you told
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me what I need to do. I had the conversation
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with Eric and the purpose that Eric served is
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to push me to say you need to move. The purpose
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of Kecalf and where he fit in my life was to analyze
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what was going on and say, hey, you're not aligned
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with what God has purposed for you. They serve
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two different purposes. But together, collectively,
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they did everything they could to get me aligned.
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So alignment is a process. Alignment is a journey.
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It's not a destination. You're always working
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to get aligned. And alignment is an everyday
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decision. where you wake up every day and you
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decide that what I went through yesterday, what
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I experienced yesterday, what I learned from
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yesterday, I'm going to take it in today, and
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I'm going to be better tomorrow than I was yesterday.
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And that is what the alignment experience is
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about, and that's what going through alignment
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is about. You live different, and you move different.
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Without even saying anything, those that are
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closest to you see the change in you. If you
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can walk into a building and you have to tell
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people who you are and what you've changed and
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the new person that you are, guess what? You
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ain't living in alignment. Because when you are,
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the light shines when nobody is around. They
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see you. They see the change in you. They see
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the move different in you. They see how you welcome
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them in. They see the vulnerability. They see
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you being your true self. And it's a beautiful
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thing. You rolling, man. That's good stuff. That's
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good stuff. And when you talked about that, Tony,
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so much hit me, but I want to talk about the
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piece. It really hit home for me when you talked
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about what alignment looks like. So we can read
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the book. We can have discussions. but sometimes
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really giving people that visual. And the visual
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that jumped out to me in that is when you talked
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about when you are walking in alignment, then
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you're now aware of what fits and what doesn't
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fit. And so many times when you talk about the
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ambition or whatever it is with... going after
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certain positions, there's things that can be
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thrown in your face. And just because it looks
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attractive or whatever it is and being out of
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alignment, you're going to be jumping at everything
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and pulling yourself in so many different ways.
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And you're going to find yourself to where it's
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challenging to get back to square where you need
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to be and walk in alignment. So as you painted
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that picture of what alignment looks like, it
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just took me back to moments of when I was out
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of alignment and not knowing, man, should I go
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do this? Should I go do that? Should I go do
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this? But now everything is going through that
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filter because I've gone through acceptance.
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I mean, awareness. I've accepted where... what
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I need to do and where I need to be. And now
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as I'm walking in alignment, I'm able to go through
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that filtering process and say, hmm, that salary
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would look nice. Or this position would look
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good on the resume. However, it doesn't fit where
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I know where I need to be and where I'm going.
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So you painting that picture helped me to bring
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that to life. But help me out with this, Tony.
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So Kecalf talked about being out of alignment,
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and you said looks good because you can chase
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all of these opportunities. You can chase these
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titles and positions. But if someone is trying
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to get in alignment, getting in alignment can
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cause fear. I'm comfortable being out of alignment
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because I'm comfortable chasing. I'm comfortable
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being ambitious. I'm comfortable feeding my own
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fleshly soul. Getting in alignment puts me into
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an uncomfortable place. That means I got to start
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giving up stuff. That means I got to start moving
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and doing stuff different. How did you feel going
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through that journey and still going through
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that journey? Because we are together, right?
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We're here together. Like, I want to be clear.
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This is a living, breathing example of us being
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disciples through this alignment experience.
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But how many times have you had fear of getting
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in alignment? And Kecalf, you might want to add
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to that because I know that there's been times
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that we've been fearful of change, giving up,
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you know, doing things different. Yeah, I mean,
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honestly, every phase of it, everything that
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changed about me, I was afraid of because...
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You go through life and you in your mind, you
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truly believe that you are a certain way. And
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sometimes you even question if change is possible.
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The other thing I would tell you is just the
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uncertainty of what's on the other side. Like,
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if I do make this change, how are people going
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to receive me? You know, how am I going to look
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at myself? And here's what I'll tell you, man.
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This is where I understand why the alignment
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experience is so important, because. In going
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through this, what it made me understand is that
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you cannot go through this change without having
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a community of people around you to help you
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through that change. That's what I understood.
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And, you know, we all have that mindset of it's
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me against the world. If it is to be, it's up
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to me and God. How many times have you heard
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somebody say that? God never told you to do it
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isolated. Say that again. God never told you
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to do it isolated. And it's important for us
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to understand that the enemy that we're fighting
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against, he knows what looks good to us. He knows
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how to turn our head. And in the words of the
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prophets, Bell Biv Devoe. Never
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trust a big butt in the smile. Because that girl
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is poison. So, what's your big butt? What's your
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big butt? And the enemy knows what that is. If
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it's fame, he's going to put you in a position
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that looks like it's going to give you fame.
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If it's money, He's going to put you in a position
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where you're going to get the money that have
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a lot of zeros. You're going to think it's going
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to be all right, right? If it's power, he's going
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to put you in a position to get that power. And
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in all those cases, if you have not went through
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this framework, if you have not been aware and
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accepted, when you get to that level and you
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get there, guess what? The true unaligned version
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of yourself will be revealed. It will be revealed.
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It is absolutely scary, but it's absolutely necessary.
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It was absolutely necessary to go through those
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steps and to continue to go through it, right?
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Because when you first go through this experience
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and when you first start living in alignment,
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those that are closest to you will question if
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it's real or not. And the reason they're going
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to question if it's real is because they've seen
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you live the other way unaligned for so long.
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So here's the other part. Sometimes you don't
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get the reaction you think you need to get. Because
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sometimes when you change to get aligned, you
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expect the people to say, oh, I like this version
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of you. What if they don't say it? Yeah. A lot
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of times they're not going to say it. Because
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what you don't realize is they were. expecting
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this or have been praying for this or appreciate
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this. So now when it comes around, if you're
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doing it for recognition, if you're doing it
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for applause, if you're doing it for recognition,
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you're doing it for the wrong reasons. You just
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talked about other people around you. And we
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talked about how being out of alignment can be
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uncomfortable. But when you get in alignment, you
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know, it's fearful. But on the other side, Kecalf
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how long you been married? 17 years. How long
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you been married? 16 years. Been married 20 years.
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Going through your marriages, and I think I can
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speak for Rachel, I can speak for Timi, and
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I think I can speak for Shea. I also think I
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can speak for your kids, your kids, you know,
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my daughter, your parents, and so many other
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people that are in our lives. We decided to have
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the podcast. We didn't realize that it was leading
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through the alignment experience, but the vulnerability
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and the adjustments that we've made in our lives,
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I think your kids, your wives, our families recognize
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it, and we're able to show up better. I think
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that they love us different. I think we've been
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able to have a positive impact on so many other
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people around us. And some of the things that
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we needed to change to Kecalf's shirt, you could
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have been made aware of. You could not have been
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made aware of. But when somebody calls you out,
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you got to be willing to accept it. That's right.
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Some of these things that we, some of the blind
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spots that we had in our lives, whether it was
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who we were spending time with, what we were
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spending time doing, The things that we were
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doing were out of alignment, but I think through
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our brotherhood, we've been able to make individual
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adjustments, and we're not perfect. We don't
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have it all figured out, but with the adjustments
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that we've made in our own lives to get in alignment,
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I think we show up different. I think we show
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up different. As you said that, It's important
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to just understand like certain things in life
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that actually confirms things that are being
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said. Right. And something that we use as a means
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of transportation all the time is a car. And
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after a while, if you go to that shop, they're
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going to tell you it's time for an alignment.
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The funny thing about it. Even if it's not time
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for alignment, sometimes when you go in there
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and you make certain changes on your car, changing
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tires, changing rotors, they tell you we recommend
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that you have an alignment done after that. If
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it's good enough for our vehicles to get us around,
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right? Why is it not good enough for us? to realize,
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and that's the confirmation to me that a car
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can still be doing what it's purpose for for
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you. But even when you make small changes on
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that, you have to get in alignment. Yeah, that's
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good. That's good. I mean, because when you talk
00:27:49.069 --> 00:27:52.990
about that, a car can be out of alignment, like
00:27:52.990 --> 00:27:56.779
you said. you can still get to the grocery store
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and back. It'll be a bumpy ride. But you can
00:28:03.059 --> 00:28:07.539
get there, right? You can get there. But the
00:28:07.539 --> 00:28:11.859
longer you stay operating with that vehicle out
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of alignment, the more damage that you're doing
00:28:15.460 --> 00:28:18.299
to it, the more costly that's going to be down
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the road for you. But if you take the opportunity...
00:28:24.430 --> 00:28:31.609
to address it and get it fixed right now, the
00:28:31.609 --> 00:28:34.650
hardships you're saving yourself down the road.
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Get it in alignment. Yes. I want to add to that,
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right? That's a perfect, I got a perfect testimony
00:28:49.309 --> 00:28:52.910
about somebody getting something in alignment.
00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:56.480
you know if you ever notice me and you see where
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I go most of the time I go with two people you
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know my wife is with me of course but I take
00:29:01.720 --> 00:29:03.859
pride in having my daughter with me because I
00:29:03.859 --> 00:29:05.859
want to show her different things and I also
00:29:05.859 --> 00:29:08.359
take pride in taking my dad with me because I
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want to show my dad you know who I've become
00:29:10.380 --> 00:29:14.839
my dad and I were out um you know moving around
00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:19.180
the city and you know like always you know I
00:29:19.180 --> 00:29:21.099
just put my head down when he get to talking
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My dad would tell somebody, I'm proud of my son.
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He's done this. And I've always been there with
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him. We talked about that in a previous episode,
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the power of presence. He always would be there
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with me. And he was sharing with this guy that
00:29:37.740 --> 00:29:40.859
when I was playing ball in high school, he was
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there. When I went to college, he was there.
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And as I continue to grow. Even through our experience
00:29:47.619 --> 00:29:50.680
with the podcast, my dad always shows up as we're
00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:56.500
recording. And he was sharing that story with
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the guy that had a job that he needed to go to.
00:30:00.859 --> 00:30:06.200
But his daughter also had a sporting event that
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she needed to go to as well. And the daughter
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asked the dad, hey, dad, are you going to be
00:30:11.619 --> 00:30:14.779
at my event? The dad reluctantly said, maybe
00:30:14.779 --> 00:30:18.480
not because I got to go to work. But after hearing
00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:22.859
my dad's testimony, he was able to get his family
00:30:22.859 --> 00:30:28.380
in alignment. But what he said was, I don't want
00:30:28.380 --> 00:30:32.779
my daughter to resent my job because I put my
00:30:32.779 --> 00:30:39.859
job before my daughter. That's a classic episode
00:30:39.859 --> 00:30:43.319
of what you just said. If he did not take care
00:30:43.319 --> 00:30:46.279
of it at that point, that could have did so much
00:30:46.279 --> 00:30:50.119
more damage in the future. And there's somebody
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out there right now who needs to start doing
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something or stop doing something, whatever that
00:30:58.740 --> 00:31:02.140
means. You need to start spending time with somebody
00:31:02.140 --> 00:31:05.819
or stop spending time or start exercising or
00:31:05.819 --> 00:31:08.900
start saving money or stop. you know, shopping
00:31:08.900 --> 00:31:11.819
or stop drinking or stop. I don't know what in
00:31:11.819 --> 00:31:16.420
your life is out of alignment. But whatever it
00:31:16.420 --> 00:31:19.519
is, you need to think about it. Because the other
00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:23.380
part, Tony, after I talk to him about it, I'm
00:31:23.380 --> 00:31:26.700
going to close the story with it. God found a
00:31:26.700 --> 00:31:30.720
way to allow him to do both. Once he surrendered
00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:34.920
and accepted that, hey, I need to show up for
00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:38.289
my daughter. God found a way that he was able
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to do both. And that's typically how it happens.
00:31:44.049 --> 00:31:47.430
Some of the things, sometimes when you're out
00:31:47.430 --> 00:31:49.250
of alignment, you think there's only one answer
00:31:49.250 --> 00:31:52.990
to it. But sometimes when you're aware, when
00:31:52.990 --> 00:31:56.109
you accept, and when you become aligned, you'll
00:31:56.109 --> 00:32:01.650
be amazed how small things will find their way
00:32:01.650 --> 00:32:05.410
to... Number one, making sure that the main thing
00:32:05.410 --> 00:32:07.509
stays the main thing from a level of importance,
00:32:07.950 --> 00:32:11.630
but also allowing you to show up for your purpose
00:32:11.630 --> 00:32:14.210
as well. And I think that's a prime example of
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it because, and then the other piece in that
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I would say was communication. Like, one of the
00:32:20.109 --> 00:32:23.309
things that we as men have a hard time with is
00:32:23.309 --> 00:32:26.930
being open with communication. And sometimes
00:32:26.930 --> 00:32:32.349
we treat a child. As if they are a child and
00:32:32.349 --> 00:32:37.809
don't understand. And we don't understand the
00:32:37.809 --> 00:32:41.150
value of having a conversation with a child so
00:32:41.150 --> 00:32:42.970
that they can understand. Because if you've never
00:32:42.970 --> 00:32:45.869
talked to them about it, they're left with assuming,
00:32:46.269 --> 00:32:50.470
coming up with their own story of why mommy or
00:32:50.470 --> 00:32:54.250
daddy are not doing certain things. And I had
00:32:54.250 --> 00:32:57.250
to learn that the hard way. So I'm one of those
00:32:57.250 --> 00:33:00.490
people that benefited from your witness. You
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didn't have to say anything. You didn't have
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to say anything to me. But the fact that I saw
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you demonstrating having your daughter in a place,
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I started thinking about all the times, like,
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I had the ability to take my son, and I didn't.
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I was like, the audacity of him to have his daughter
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there, and I started thinking the audacity of
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me not to have my son there. Right? Because you
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made a choice to now everyone knows that if Eric
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shows up, he's coming with an entourage. And
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that's not a bad thing. Not in this case. Because
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in alignment, in the spirit of subtraction, some
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of y 'all need to release y 'all entourage. But
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in this entourage, this is an entourage that's
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pouring into you and helping you fulfill your
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purpose. And you said it earlier on an episode,
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I want people to understand it, is how you show
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up is your ministry. You said it. You said ministry.
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How you show up is your ministry. Your ministry
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speaks for you when you never utter a word. And
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that's good right there because I think a lot
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of times as people are navigating through this
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space of, like, man, am I walking in my purpose?
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I'm out of alignment. I feel like something's
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inside of me that I should be doing more, right?
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And they immediately look at it that, hey. I
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should be more vocal or talking to this or witnessing
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to this person through words and all of that.
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And they look inward and say, but that's not
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me. I can't do that. Right. Right. You know,
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that feeling is inside of you for a reason. Yes.
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If something's tugging at you that you should
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be doing more and there's something that's there.
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Yes. But don't get it wrong and start comparing
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it to others. Because just like you said. That
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was silent witnessing right there. So you didn't
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have to say a word, but it spoke volumes to both
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of us. And to others that see you every day.
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So that's the message of this. It's not that
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you're saying that, hey, you got to be on a podcast
00:35:13.929 --> 00:35:17.070
talking about this stuff. But your life needs
00:35:17.070 --> 00:35:19.909
to reflect these things. And I guarantee you,
00:35:19.989 --> 00:35:23.690
people are going to see it. And you will be making
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a difference. I appreciate that. And I think
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you also need to find other avenues, number one,
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to get your personal life, as you said, in alignment.
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:40.780
But your witness can help so many other people.
00:35:41.679 --> 00:35:43.960
I think some of the conversations that we've
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had, you know, Kecalf, if you had talked about,
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again, about how you stopped taking wine, we
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all in corporate America, right? We all have
00:35:51.579 --> 00:35:54.219
those after hours events where you're able to.
00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:58.559
to drink. They give you tickets. It's expected.
00:35:59.619 --> 00:36:04.800
But when you're the one that's not drinking in
00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:07.780
that environment, it attracts people to you.
00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:12.019
And it gives them the opportunity to ask you
00:36:12.019 --> 00:36:16.000
those questions. They ask you those questions
00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:18.980
and now that you decided to make the change,
00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:22.280
you're able to also have an opportunity to witness
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to them. on ways that they can get in alignment.
00:36:25.929 --> 00:36:28.349
That's right. Right? Yeah. You might need to
00:36:28.349 --> 00:36:30.849
let it go. It might make you show up better.
00:36:30.949 --> 00:36:33.130
It might make you, you know, sleep better. You
00:36:33.130 --> 00:36:35.829
might be able to save money, whatever it is.
00:36:37.090 --> 00:36:40.210
And your life, like you mentioned, is going to
00:36:40.210 --> 00:36:43.070
be a silent witness to so many people. I passed
00:36:43.070 --> 00:36:45.469
off in the times tell us that your life is the
00:36:45.469 --> 00:36:49.309
only Bible that some people read. Your life is
00:36:49.309 --> 00:36:52.679
the only Bible that some people read. How are
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:55.739
you showing up? And if you show up correctly,
00:36:56.099 --> 00:37:00.179
just your presence can help somebody else get
00:37:00.179 --> 00:37:06.920
in alignment. Tony, how did you find out, what
00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:10.219
spoke to you about your life being out of alignment
00:37:10.219 --> 00:37:16.099
and deciding to pen the book? Yeah. You know,
00:37:16.340 --> 00:37:22.280
Kecalf talked about that tug. There were things
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:27.980
that I was truly avoiding. I knew that there
00:37:27.980 --> 00:37:29.900
were things I should have been doing in line.
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I like the example of you can drive, but it might
00:37:33.320 --> 00:37:37.280
be bumpy. Life was bumpy, man. It's like every
00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:40.340
time I took a step forward, it felt like something
00:37:40.340 --> 00:37:46.000
was pulling me back. And, of course, everything
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:48.460
I've done in life has been about perseverance.
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So I tried to. through that, but the more I tried
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:56.260
to persevere through that, the more I kept seeking
00:37:56.260 --> 00:37:58.840
resistance. So I knew there was something that
00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:02.420
was not being done properly. But you also said
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that you didn't do it by yourself. Absolutely
00:38:04.619 --> 00:38:09.099
not. Counseling. When we talk about getting things
00:38:09.099 --> 00:38:11.579
in alignment, you said you go to the shop to
00:38:11.579 --> 00:38:15.039
get your car aligned, but talk about the alignment
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support. Yes. that you had in order to get aligned.
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You went to counseling. I went to coaching. I
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opened up to my brothers. I started being honest
00:38:26.570 --> 00:38:28.650
to the people that mattered to me. I had those
00:38:28.650 --> 00:38:32.550
tough conversations. I forgave myself for things
00:38:32.550 --> 00:38:35.349
that I should have let go a long time ago. I
00:38:35.349 --> 00:38:37.570
cut people out of my life that I should have
00:38:37.570 --> 00:38:40.489
cut out of my life a long time ago. But more
00:38:40.489 --> 00:38:43.530
importantly, I made a commitment to God of what
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I would no longer do. And I made a commitment
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that I would start being open and yielding to
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what his word is telling me to do. I had tough
00:38:54.489 --> 00:38:56.369
conversations with people I needed to have tough
00:38:56.369 --> 00:38:58.849
conversations with, conversations I had been
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avoiding for decades. And I went back and had
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that conversation. So to be in alignment, it
00:39:06.510 --> 00:39:13.289
forces action. You have to act on. certain things
00:39:13.289 --> 00:39:15.849
that you've been withholding to get yourself
00:39:15.849 --> 00:39:20.269
back in alignment. You can't do it without resistance.
00:39:20.449 --> 00:39:25.469
The sheer act of becoming aligned forces change.
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And it's going against the gravity or something
00:39:28.909 --> 00:39:32.130
that's already been from a chiropractor to the
00:39:32.130 --> 00:39:34.909
change on the car. Whatever you're doing, it
00:39:34.909 --> 00:39:41.980
forces you to shift. So alignment... It's action.
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And it's action in the right direction to really
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have you now working seamlessly. And like I say,
00:39:49.500 --> 00:39:53.780
to continue to be in align, you have to continue
00:39:53.780 --> 00:39:55.480
to have that community. It's not a one -time
00:39:55.480 --> 00:39:59.679
fix. Yeah. So when you talk about things being
00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:04.820
out of alignment, this is a holistic concept.
00:40:05.900 --> 00:40:09.679
This is a holistic concept. You could be out
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of alignment physically. Your health can be out
00:40:13.579 --> 00:40:16.300
of alignment. If you're thinking about right
00:40:16.300 --> 00:40:19.460
now, hey, maybe you went to the doctor, your
00:40:19.460 --> 00:40:21.800
blood pressure, your cholesterol, you looked
00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:24.539
at the scale, and you weren't satisfied with
00:40:24.539 --> 00:40:28.340
what it read, the feedback that you got. Now
00:40:28.340 --> 00:40:30.780
those numbers, those results are going to make
00:40:30.780 --> 00:40:34.099
you aware, but you have to be willing to accept
00:40:34.099 --> 00:40:36.760
it. Yes, sir. And now you have to be willing
00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:40.579
to make that change to get those things in alignment.
00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:45.380
How many times have we said, how about this?
00:40:45.500 --> 00:40:47.679
How many times we say we're going to make New
00:40:47.679 --> 00:40:50.320
Year's resolutions? The New Year's resolutions
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is an opportunity for alignment. But why does
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it have to be a New Year's resolution? Why can't
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it be a New Day resolution? Why can't we start
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:03.559
tomorrow? There you go. Why can't we start right
00:41:03.559 --> 00:41:06.599
now? Why can't we find accountability partners
00:41:06.599 --> 00:41:09.519
that are going to hold us accountable for having
00:41:09.519 --> 00:41:14.820
those tough conversations? You may need to role
00:41:14.820 --> 00:41:17.880
play some of these conversations. It's not going
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:20.599
to be easy. You may need to go back and talk
00:41:20.599 --> 00:41:24.099
to your parents about some of the scenarios that
00:41:24.099 --> 00:41:26.579
have happened to you. Husbands may need to go
00:41:26.579 --> 00:41:28.840
back and talk to their wives. Fathers may need
00:41:28.840 --> 00:41:32.079
to go back and talk to their kids about some
00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:34.869
of the things that we've done well. but also
00:41:34.869 --> 00:41:37.909
about some of the mistakes that we made. But
00:41:37.909 --> 00:41:41.829
the energy that you go walk away with once you
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do it, it's going to force you to be better.
00:41:45.590 --> 00:41:48.550
It's going to force you to be better. I like
00:41:48.550 --> 00:41:50.769
the graphic that you have on your book, Beyond
00:41:50.769 --> 00:41:54.090
the Glass, because it shows the blurry side of
00:41:54.090 --> 00:41:57.090
it. And I think the blurriness represents the
00:41:57.090 --> 00:42:00.730
fear. That's right. It represents the fear. And
00:42:00.730 --> 00:42:02.590
going through the alignment experience, there
00:42:02.590 --> 00:42:07.869
is a fear. There is a fear. And once you make
00:42:07.869 --> 00:42:11.329
that jump, come on, man. Kecalf, I know Rachel loves
00:42:11.329 --> 00:42:15.289
you now, dog. I know she does. Yes, she does.
00:42:16.150 --> 00:42:21.789
And, you know, as you talk about wrapping all
00:42:21.789 --> 00:42:25.170
of this and pulling it all together, alignment
00:42:25.170 --> 00:42:29.650
in one area of your life is naturally going to
00:42:29.650 --> 00:42:34.889
hit. all areas of your life. So, yeah. Yeah.
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Man, we appreciate you all for checking out our
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00:42:42.530 --> 00:42:47.829
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