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It looks like Josh Simon's MP has decided to stand
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aside in his seat for of Macclefield in order to
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let Andy Burnham run in that seat. He says in
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a tweet just released. For decades, Westminster has overseen the
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managed decline of towns like mine. We've talked big, then
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acted small, stuck in a politics of incrementalism that cannot
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meet the moment. We have lost the trust of those
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our party was built to serve. It is my unwavering
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belief that nothing short of urgent, radical, courageous reform will
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make a difference. That must start with a change in leadership,
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he says. Today, I'm putting the people I represent and
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the country I love first, and I will be resigning
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as MP for Macklefield. I am standing aside so Andy
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Burnham can return to his home, fight to re enter
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Parliament and, if elected, drive the change our country is
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crying out for. He says. It's not been an easy decision.
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It's my family's home. But he says, we must make choices,
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and in recent days I found myself with a difficult one.
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Defend the status quote or step forward and act. I
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have made my choice, he says, this is the fight.
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I believe Andy is the one to lead it. So
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breaking news there, Josh Simon's is standing down as MP
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for Maccafield in order to make way for Andy Burnham.
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Labor has a five thousand, four hundred majority there. It's
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been a Labor held seats since its creation in nineteen
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eighty three.
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Yeah, I think it's Makerfield? Is it the Makerfield? Yeah?
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So well this is precisely what we were just talking about.
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And Andy Burnham has found his his constituency. So I mean,
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what happens now do you think?
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Well, I think that there's now a question about so
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I'm just reading it, Mark, I'm just processing the news here. Look, look,
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where have we got to. Josh Simon's from Makerfield is
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standing down in order to let Andy Burnham run in
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the seat. For days, we've been told that Andy Burnham
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had found a way back into Parliament. Now the question
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is about the National Executive Committee. The first thing is
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Andy Burnham will have to get approval to be able
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to stand in that by election, the Gorton and Denton
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by election. He was blocked, but that was at a
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time where Kiss Starmer and his team had a much
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stronger hold on the NEC. That's the ruling body of
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the Labor Party, and they had a big hold on
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that on the NEC, and I just think it's going
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to be really difficult for I think it's going to
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be really difficult for Keir Starmer to block Andy Burnham
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from coming back into Parliament, not least because I don't
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know if he'll have the support on the NEC to
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do that. So it looks like we'll have to see
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Mark but that will be the next stage. But this
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is really the starting gune is shot now. I mean,
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you've got west Street in resigning, he clearly wants to run.
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He's called the Prime Minister on the Prime Minister to
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set out a timetable, and now you've got a couple
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of few hours after that, what four hours later, you've
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got an MP resigning in auster to allow to get
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to get Andy Burnham back into Parliament. And once Andy
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Burnham's in Parliament, I think a leadership race begins. And
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I think what might happen is depending on the timing
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of this by election, it could be that that race
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begins and maybe is concluded by by Labor Party conference
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at the end of sept But I'm getting a bit
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ahead of myself because we don't know what's going to happen.
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But this makes it more likely that this will whole
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process will be put back and to allow Andy Burnham.
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Now well it has I mean there isn't. But the
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point is Mark, there isn't a process at the moment
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because although west Streeting resigned, he did not trigger a
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leadership race. Now there was a question about whether he
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didn't trigger it because he thought it was better not
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to trigger it and have a discussion in the party,
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or he wants the Prime Minister to lead that process.
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That's what he argued in the letter. Then there was
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another school of thought that said, well, he's not triggering
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it because he hasn't got the numbers to actually fire
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the gun on it. But a few hours after he resigned,
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we now know that Andy Burnham has found a way,
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subject to the NEC the National Executive Committee of the
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Labor Party approveing it, that he can come back into Parliament.
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And at that point, given the mood of the party,
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ninety MP saying that Kirs Starmer needs to stand down.
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He's had a cabinet resignation. For ministerial resignations, you can
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see that the mood in the party will be to
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trigger a race. I mean MPs could even organize around
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one candidate to kick the race off.
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It looks like Josh Simon's MP has decided to stand
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aside in his seat for of Macclefield in order to
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let Andy Burnham run in that seat. He says in
4
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a tweet just released. For decades, Westminster has overseen the
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managed decline of towns like mine. We've talked big, then
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acted small, stuck in a politics of incrementalism that cannot
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meet the moment. We have lost the trust of those
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our party was built to serve. It is my unwavering
9
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belief that nothing short of urgent, radical, courageous reform will
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00:00:38.520 --> 00:00:42.039
make a difference. That must start with a change in leadership,
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he says. Today, I'm putting the people I represent and
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the country I love first, and I will be resigning
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as MP for Macklefield. I am standing aside so Andy
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Burnham can return to his home, fight to re enter
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Parliament and, if elected, drive the change our country is
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crying out for. He says. It's not been an easy decision.
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It's my family's home. But he says, we must make choices,
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and in recent days I found myself with a difficult one.
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Defend the status quote or step forward and act. I
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have made my choice, he says, this is the fight.
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I believe Andy is the one to lead it. So
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breaking news there, Josh Simon's is standing down as MP
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for Maccafield in order to make way for Andy Burnham.
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Labor has a five thousand, four hundred majority there. It's
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been a Labor held seats since its creation in nineteen
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eighty three.
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Yeah, I think it's Makerfield? Is it the Makerfield? Yeah?
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So well this is precisely what we were just talking about.
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And Andy Burnham has found his his constituency. So I mean,
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what happens now do you think?
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Well, I think that there's now a question about so
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I'm just reading it, Mark, I'm just processing the news here. Look, look,
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where have we got to. Josh Simon's from Makerfield is
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standing down in order to let Andy Burnham run in
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the seat. For days, we've been told that Andy Burnham
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had found a way back into Parliament. Now the question
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is about the National Executive Committee. The first thing is
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Andy Burnham will have to get approval to be able
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to stand in that by election, the Gorton and Denton
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by election. He was blocked, but that was at a
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time where Kiss Starmer and his team had a much
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stronger hold on the NEC. That's the ruling body of
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the Labor Party, and they had a big hold on
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that on the NEC, and I just think it's going
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to be really difficult for I think it's going to
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be really difficult for Keir Starmer to block Andy Burnham
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from coming back into Parliament, not least because I don't
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know if he'll have the support on the NEC to
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do that. So it looks like we'll have to see
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Mark but that will be the next stage. But this
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is really the starting gune is shot now. I mean,
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you've got west Street in resigning, he clearly wants to run.
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He's called the Prime Minister on the Prime Minister to
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set out a timetable, and now you've got a couple
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of few hours after that, what four hours later, you've
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got an MP resigning in auster to allow to get
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to get Andy Burnham back into Parliament. And once Andy
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Burnham's in Parliament, I think a leadership race begins. And
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00:03:45.680 --> 00:03:48.879
I think what might happen is depending on the timing
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00:03:48.919 --> 00:03:51.919
of this by election, it could be that that race
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begins and maybe is concluded by by Labor Party conference
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at the end of sept But I'm getting a bit
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ahead of myself because we don't know what's going to happen.
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But this makes it more likely that this will whole
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process will be put back and to allow Andy Burnham.
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Now well it has I mean there isn't. But the
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point is Mark, there isn't a process at the moment
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because although west Streeting resigned, he did not trigger a
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leadership race. Now there was a question about whether he
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didn't trigger it because he thought it was better not
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to trigger it and have a discussion in the party,
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or he wants the Prime Minister to lead that process.
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That's what he argued in the letter. Then there was
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another school of thought that said, well, he's not triggering
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it because he hasn't got the numbers to actually fire
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the gun on it. But a few hours after he resigned,
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we now know that Andy Burnham has found a way,
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subject to the NEC the National Executive Committee of the
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Labor Party approveing it, that he can come back into Parliament.
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And at that point, given the mood of the party,
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ninety MP saying that Kirs Starmer needs to stand down.
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He's had a cabinet resignation. For ministerial resignations, you can
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see that the mood in the party will be to
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trigger a race. I mean MPs could even organize around
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one candidate to kick the race off.
