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Well, it's been long, four years of Ukrainian fighting for
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their freedom, for their security, and essentially fighting for the
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European continent. Four years since Russian tanks rolled into Ukraine
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and today constant bombing in Kiev, women and children, in
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a situation which should never have happened. The European Union
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has responded with unprecedented support, whether it is in military
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or financial or economic help for Ukrainians, welcoming Ukraine refugees
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across the continent. This has been the toughest year. It
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has been an extremely cold winter, and we hope that
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finally peace can come to this continent. But that peace
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should be with Ukraine at the table, and no decision
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should be taken about Ukraine without Ukraine.
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And yet Europe continues to inadvertently or overtly fund Russia's
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war by continuing to purchase oil and gas.
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Well, we've passed legislation, not only through sanctions, by placing
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sanctions on making sure that first gas cannot be bought
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not only inside the European Union, but also not imported
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via other countries in cheaper or different forms. And we're
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finally edging closer. Took a while to banning oil to
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the same extent the first From the very first day,
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there was an understanding, first of all, that there were
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countries that were over reliant on Russia for cheap energy.
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We had to completely uncouple from that. We worked together
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across the world with our partners, including the United States.
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We're currently going with different separate measures and similar ones
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both in Congress and in the European Union, in order
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to defund Russia's war machine. We still have to do
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more on the shadow fleet with vessels that need more,
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vessels that need to be impounded.
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We have done a report today with shadow fleets that
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are operating as normal. When you say we have to
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do more, what is that?
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Because adopted what the twentieth package of sanctions. So we've
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adopted nineteen packages of sanctions. We're slowly coming towards the
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adoption of the twentieth. We're pushing very hard for that
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to happen. For us. Any possibility for Russia to continue
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to wage its war against Ukraine and against Europe as
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a whole, by using funds that is could inadvertently or overtly,
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as you said, come from the European Union, is unacceptable,
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and that is something we've said from day one, and
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we continue to work with speed, I would white likely
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to be faster towards that. A.
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Are you pushing European countries because I mean we're talking
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about France, Belgium, I mean these countries are continuing to
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do what you are telling them they mustn't do to
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fund Russia's war.
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Well, I would not agree with that statement. I think
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the leaders of the countries have come together and they've
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been part of the coalition of the willing countries who
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are said we have to do everything to help Ukraine.
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Could we have been faster at the beginning, absolutely, Could
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we have had easier legislative solutions to what we thought was,
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you know, never going to happen on our continent. Absolutely,
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But these are countries that came together in unanimity all
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twenty seven to say that they would adopt sanctions and
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legislation together to make sure that we do not accept
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what Russia is doing and that will help Ukraine to
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the maximum that we can.
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So when you say seizing the or stopping these shadow fleets,
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will there be a plan to seize them?
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Well, there are some that have been We've seen what
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happened in the Nordic masies. We see what happens around
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the Baltic countries. There is a lot of activity in
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the Mediterranean. We're working with the United States because this
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is a global effort, but at the end of the day,
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we need to cooperate more in order to make sure
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that ships that are illegally carrying Russian war in order
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to fund Russian the Russian war against Ukraine should not
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continue to sail in our waters.
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Just to ask further on that, when you say that
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we're seeing some action, is it a coordinated action that
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is now going to be taken a plan because we
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continue to do these reports on sky News where we're
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seeing these shadow fleets operate quite freely.
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Yeah, I think there's a lot of cooperation. I'm currently
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we're in the UK and this has been also one
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of the discussions that we have as the UK and
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the European Union reset their relationship, that we should do
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more in terms of interoperability and intelligence sharing. And we've
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seen a lot of work jointly on this shadow fleet.
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It's not solved yet. There are a lot of vessels
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that continue to operate rate. We see also quick changes
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of flags of all that these laships are registered from
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one I would say jurisdiction to another in an illegal manner,
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but we need to be faster, and I think we're
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doing we you know we're doing well, but we need
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to do better.
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Present Matzola, thank you for your time.
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Thank you,
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Well, it's been long, four years of Ukrainian fighting for
2
00:00:05.320 --> 00:00:09.199
their freedom, for their security, and essentially fighting for the
3
00:00:09.240 --> 00:00:15.359
European continent. Four years since Russian tanks rolled into Ukraine
4
00:00:16.519 --> 00:00:23.399
and today constant bombing in Kiev, women and children, in
5
00:00:23.440 --> 00:00:27.399
a situation which should never have happened. The European Union
6
00:00:27.480 --> 00:00:32.679
has responded with unprecedented support, whether it is in military
7
00:00:32.799 --> 00:00:37.840
or financial or economic help for Ukrainians, welcoming Ukraine refugees
8
00:00:37.880 --> 00:00:42.079
across the continent. This has been the toughest year. It
9
00:00:42.119 --> 00:00:46.679
has been an extremely cold winter, and we hope that
10
00:00:47.079 --> 00:00:50.280
finally peace can come to this continent. But that peace
11
00:00:50.320 --> 00:00:53.320
should be with Ukraine at the table, and no decision
12
00:00:53.320 --> 00:00:56.399
should be taken about Ukraine without Ukraine.
13
00:00:56.560 --> 00:01:02.399
And yet Europe continues to inadvertently or overtly fund Russia's
14
00:01:02.439 --> 00:01:04.799
war by continuing to purchase oil and gas.
15
00:01:05.560 --> 00:01:10.640
Well, we've passed legislation, not only through sanctions, by placing
16
00:01:10.680 --> 00:01:16.159
sanctions on making sure that first gas cannot be bought
17
00:01:16.599 --> 00:01:20.680
not only inside the European Union, but also not imported
18
00:01:20.840 --> 00:01:24.920
via other countries in cheaper or different forms. And we're
19
00:01:24.959 --> 00:01:29.920
finally edging closer. Took a while to banning oil to
20
00:01:29.959 --> 00:01:33.799
the same extent the first From the very first day,
21
00:01:34.200 --> 00:01:36.359
there was an understanding, first of all, that there were
22
00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:40.599
countries that were over reliant on Russia for cheap energy.
23
00:01:41.280 --> 00:01:45.439
We had to completely uncouple from that. We worked together
24
00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:49.799
across the world with our partners, including the United States.
25
00:01:49.840 --> 00:01:52.640
We're currently going with different separate measures and similar ones
26
00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:56.599
both in Congress and in the European Union, in order
27
00:01:56.920 --> 00:02:00.280
to defund Russia's war machine. We still have to do
28
00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:03.480
more on the shadow fleet with vessels that need more,
29
00:02:03.560 --> 00:02:05.560
vessels that need to be impounded.
30
00:02:05.760 --> 00:02:08.400
We have done a report today with shadow fleets that
31
00:02:08.439 --> 00:02:11.520
are operating as normal. When you say we have to
32
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do more, what is that?
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Because adopted what the twentieth package of sanctions. So we've
34
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adopted nineteen packages of sanctions. We're slowly coming towards the
35
00:02:21.080 --> 00:02:24.199
adoption of the twentieth. We're pushing very hard for that
36
00:02:24.360 --> 00:02:29.639
to happen. For us. Any possibility for Russia to continue
37
00:02:29.960 --> 00:02:33.280
to wage its war against Ukraine and against Europe as
38
00:02:33.280 --> 00:02:37.319
a whole, by using funds that is could inadvertently or overtly,
39
00:02:37.319 --> 00:02:40.199
as you said, come from the European Union, is unacceptable,
40
00:02:40.280 --> 00:02:42.479
and that is something we've said from day one, and
41
00:02:42.520 --> 00:02:46.240
we continue to work with speed, I would white likely
42
00:02:46.280 --> 00:02:48.319
to be faster towards that. A.
43
00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:50.639
Are you pushing European countries because I mean we're talking
44
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about France, Belgium, I mean these countries are continuing to
45
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do what you are telling them they mustn't do to
46
00:02:57.520 --> 00:02:58.400
fund Russia's war.
47
00:02:58.520 --> 00:03:01.199
Well, I would not agree with that statement. I think
48
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the leaders of the countries have come together and they've
49
00:03:03.680 --> 00:03:06.479
been part of the coalition of the willing countries who
50
00:03:06.479 --> 00:03:08.280
are said we have to do everything to help Ukraine.
51
00:03:08.680 --> 00:03:12.159
Could we have been faster at the beginning, absolutely, Could
52
00:03:12.199 --> 00:03:17.360
we have had easier legislative solutions to what we thought was,
53
00:03:17.719 --> 00:03:20.599
you know, never going to happen on our continent. Absolutely,
54
00:03:20.840 --> 00:03:24.360
But these are countries that came together in unanimity all
55
00:03:24.439 --> 00:03:28.319
twenty seven to say that they would adopt sanctions and
56
00:03:28.400 --> 00:03:32.599
legislation together to make sure that we do not accept
57
00:03:32.719 --> 00:03:35.080
what Russia is doing and that will help Ukraine to
58
00:03:35.159 --> 00:03:36.080
the maximum that we can.
59
00:03:36.199 --> 00:03:40.719
So when you say seizing the or stopping these shadow fleets,
60
00:03:40.759 --> 00:03:42.400
will there be a plan to seize them?
61
00:03:42.680 --> 00:03:45.159
Well, there are some that have been We've seen what
62
00:03:45.280 --> 00:03:50.039
happened in the Nordic masies. We see what happens around
63
00:03:50.120 --> 00:03:54.000
the Baltic countries. There is a lot of activity in
64
00:03:54.039 --> 00:03:56.879
the Mediterranean. We're working with the United States because this
65
00:03:56.960 --> 00:03:59.800
is a global effort, but at the end of the day,
66
00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:02.840
we need to cooperate more in order to make sure
67
00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:07.479
that ships that are illegally carrying Russian war in order
68
00:04:07.520 --> 00:04:11.879
to fund Russian the Russian war against Ukraine should not
69
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continue to sail in our waters.
70
00:04:14.960 --> 00:04:18.959
Just to ask further on that, when you say that
71
00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:23.040
we're seeing some action, is it a coordinated action that
72
00:04:23.240 --> 00:04:26.319
is now going to be taken a plan because we
73
00:04:26.399 --> 00:04:29.439
continue to do these reports on sky News where we're
74
00:04:29.480 --> 00:04:32.360
seeing these shadow fleets operate quite freely.
75
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Yeah, I think there's a lot of cooperation. I'm currently
76
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we're in the UK and this has been also one
77
00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:42.199
of the discussions that we have as the UK and
78
00:04:42.240 --> 00:04:46.079
the European Union reset their relationship, that we should do
79
00:04:46.199 --> 00:04:50.600
more in terms of interoperability and intelligence sharing. And we've
80
00:04:50.639 --> 00:04:55.319
seen a lot of work jointly on this shadow fleet.
81
00:04:56.040 --> 00:04:59.079
It's not solved yet. There are a lot of vessels
82
00:04:59.120 --> 00:05:03.399
that continue to operate rate. We see also quick changes
83
00:05:03.439 --> 00:05:06.920
of flags of all that these laships are registered from
84
00:05:07.000 --> 00:05:10.759
one I would say jurisdiction to another in an illegal manner,
85
00:05:11.120 --> 00:05:12.920
but we need to be faster, and I think we're
86
00:05:12.959 --> 00:05:14.680
doing we you know we're doing well, but we need
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to do better.
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Present Matzola, thank you for your time.
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Thank you,
