ABOUT THIS EPISODE
What if the purpose of college isn't to confirm what you believe—but to teach you how to question it?
In this episode of Tocqueville Talks, Furman University students Laura Grace McSwain and Liza Sherbert join Tocqueville Center Director Brent Nelsen to reflect on what it means to take ideas seriously, encounter disagreement, and learn to change your mind.
Both students are Tocqueville Fellows, part of an intellectual community at Furman devoted to exploring the philosophical and moral questions at the heart of democratic life. Laura Grace comes to the program from a STEM background, while Liza was drawn to it after discovering how much she valued conversations that bring students from different backgrounds and perspectives together around difficult questions.
Their conversation grows out of the Tocqueville Fellows' fall retreat and three readings that structured its central discussion. The readings raise a fundamental question of American political thought: What is a constitution—and what sustains constitutional government beyond a written document?
The Fellows consider the relationship between formal political institutions and the mores, habits, norms, and informal understandings that help make democratic self-government possible. Constitutions are not simply words on a page. Their operation depends upon the character and practices of the people who live under them.
Lincoln's “apple of gold” image raises a related question about the relationship between the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution: Are constitutional institutions themselves the ultimate political end, or do they exist to preserve something more fundamental?
From there, the conversation turns toward the purpose of liberal education itself.
Laura Grace and Liza describe the value of encountering arguments they have not considered and being forced to ask why they believe what they believe. Some opinions, they suggest, are inherited almost unconsciously from families, communities, political groups, or the broader culture. Education provides an opportunity to examine those opinions rather than simply carry them forward.
That requires something increasingly difficult: being willing to have your assumptions challenged.
The Fellows discuss why disagreement can become so personal when opinions are incorporated into our identities. If a political or moral position becomes part of who we understand ourselves to be, questioning that position can feel less like intellectual disagreement and more like a personal attack.
What would happen if college offered students a different model?
Laura Grace and Liza describe the Tocqueville Fellows as a community where students can test arguments, receive pushback, encounter perspectives unlike their own, and sometimes discover that they need to change their minds. The goal is not disagreement for its own sake, but the development of the intellectual habits required to pursue difficult questions seriously.
At its heart, this episode asks a question that reaches well beyond the college campus:
Can we learn to treat disagreement as an opportunity to think more deeply rather than as a threat to who we are?
