Ep. 167 — Flat Earth Dave Returns

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This week on a very special episode of Timeless Spirituality.
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That's the dumbest crap I've ever heard.
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My mom 63 years ago said, you know, I better give him a D name because there's gonna be a Flat Earth movement.
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He's gonna lead the Flat Earth movement and he'll be FED, and that'll be Revelation of the Method.
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How about just a coincidence?
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What else am I gonna call myself?
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My name's Dave.
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I'm talking about Flat Earth.
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Yes, this is a very special episode of Timeless Spirituality.
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I hope you guys enjoyed that little preview, that little teaser of what's to come.
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This was a fun episode.
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It uh It's more lighthearted than a lot of the other ones, but I think there's a lot of substance here because I think that it I think you just need to hear it for yourself.
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I guess that's the best way to put it.
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But there are some things I would like to say about what you're about to hear before you hear it.
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And of course, today's guest is someone who needs no introduction for longtime listeners.
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He is the most requested guest that I've had on the show so far.
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And if you're new here, buckle up because Flat Earth Dave is back on Timeless Spirituality.
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If you haven't heard our first conversation, I'd highly recommend going back to episodes 112 and 113.
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You don't need to listen to follow this one, but I think you'll get a lot more out of it.
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Especially when we reference things that were first talked about four years ago when the episode was recorded.
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Even though it was released back in the spring of 2025, we recorded this back in the fall of 2020.
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I'm sorry.
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We recorded the initial episode back in the fall of 2022.
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And I also want to say something about why I chose to have Dave on the show.
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Because I do take my role as a host very seriously.
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Bring someone onto this show isn't an endorsement of everything they believe in.
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I don't agree with most of what Dave says, and you're gonna hear that.
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But I've never thought that the answer to ideas that I disagree with is to pretend that they don't exist.
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Because I feel that my job is to ask questions, to push back when something doesn't add up, and ultimately let you hear the answers in full so you can weigh them yourself.
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That goes for everyone who sits across from me.
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And it even goes for me as well.
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Question Dave.
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Question me.
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Question the people you already agree with.
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I don't believe that discernment is picking a side.
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I think it's just always about how you listen.
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There are moments in this episode where Dave makes some claims about curvature, refraction, and distances and and other stuff, and I and I don't push back.
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That's not because I agree.
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It's because I'm not a physicist.
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And I'd rather tell you I do not know enough to challenge something than to pretend that I do.
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So if something he says catches your attention, don't just take his word for it.
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And don't take mine either.
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Look it up.
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Check it against sources from more than one side.
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Just always use your own discernment.
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I also want you to know that I genuinely like Dave as a person.
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He he can he can take a joke and he can definitely dish one out too.
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So we take some shots at each other in this one, but it's all in good fun.
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That's how this conversation went.
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I don't believe that any of it came from a bad place.
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And even when we stopped recording, we had a good laugh about it.
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I really believe that you can disagree with someone about, let's just say, the shape of the planet and still enjoy their company.
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I just really think the world would be a better place if we were able to sit down with people that we don't see eye to eye with.
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Now what strikes me most about Dave is his conviction.
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He he doesn't say he believes that the earth is flat.
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He says he knows it.
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To him, there's a real difference between being 99.9% sure and being 100% sure.
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And I think it's pretty evident that Dave lives at 100.
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So whatever you think of his conclusions, he's all in.
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And he's willing to sit across from people who think that he's wrong, and he makes his case anyways.
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I respect that.
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I also think that conviction is something that's worth examining because how sure someone is and whether they're right are not always the same thing.
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So just always keep that in mind for listening to this conversation and just anywhere else.
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Does conviction always equate to being right?
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And the last thing I do want to talk about right now, this is um at some point uh Dave brings up Narnia, and for the record, I I I do not believe that Narnia is a real place.
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Dave asked me if I thought it was possible, and I said yes, because I was trying to show him I would step into his hypothetical the same way that I was asking him to step into mine.
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So I just want to correct the record right now.
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I do not believe in Narnia.
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I I do not believe that I can walk through a closet and be taken to a magical land.
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So I was just trying to show what it would look like to indulge in a hypothetical.
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Um so I hope you guys enjoy the return of Flat Earth Dave.
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With all that said, if you would like to book a regression with me to discover who and in where you have been throughout time, you can reach me on Instagram at the Past Life Regressionist, or you can go ahead and book through my website, the PastLiferegressionist.com.
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And now it's time to begin.
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Dave, welcome back to the show.
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How are you doing today?
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I'm doing fantastic.
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Thank you.
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So I just want to give a little shout out up front or a little explanation.
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You and I recorded our first episode four years ago.
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And since then, I would say not only have you been the most polarizing guest on Timeless Spirituality, but also the most requested for a return appearance.
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So I I mean.
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It's been four years.
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It must have been a failure because you're still a glober.
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What did I do wrong?
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Like I'm gonna beat myself up tonight.
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Like, what did I do wrong?
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He's still a glober.
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Dave, I hope you don't find yourself worth in whether or not I'm a glober.
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Because if uh you've I'm sorry to say you failed massively with a lot of other people you've talked to.
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We'll we'll see about that.
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All right, go ahead.
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So just for anyone who may be listening for the first time, I would highly recommend you go check out the first episode.
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But Dave, who are you?
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I'm Dave.
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I call myself Flat Earth Dave because that's how most people know me.
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I um discovered that we've been lied to on a grand scale that's beyond most people's ability to realize.
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And I looked into it with the purpose of debunking it to start.
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And uh here I am, 14 years later, or 12 years later, Flat Earth Dave talking to you.
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I'm doing uh I'm doing a lot of podcasts.
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I'm being flown all over the world to do them, and I'm on my way to Vegas in two days to do a 10 outnumbered, 10 against one, 10 Globers against me.
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Oh yeah?
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Yeah, it should be crazy.
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What network is that on?
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Well, it's gonna be on Sean Kelly's podcast, a digital hour podcast.
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He's got he's got a pretty big channel, and uh it'll be 3 15 p.m.
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Eastern on Monday live.
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Do you know who you're facing off against?
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You know what?
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What's funny is I said I would do it with the agreement that there would be no what I call anti-flat earthers.
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You're not an anti-flat earther, you're just a guy that believes in the globe and you're interested in learning the truth.
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Then there's literally demons out there that are anti-flat earthers, whether they're paid or possessed, I couldn't tell you, but there's really no difference in the two.
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And I said, as long as none of them come, and uh, and they said, I can uh I can reject any uh that I wanted.
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And the funny thing is, I gave them a list of uh short list, maybe of a dozen anti-flat earthers, and they all applied on the same day, which was amazing, and they all got rejected.
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But the 10 people that I'm doing, I've never heard of them.
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I don't know their beliefs, I don't know their position.
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I just know that they're well, at least I hope that they're not anti-flat earthers.
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I think they're people that are basically walking into a gunfight with a butter knife, but we'll see what happens.
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Do you ever watch the Jubilee Surrounded series?
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Yeah, yeah.
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It's it's it's like that, but um, it's one, it's one on one, 10, you know, one at a time against me.
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And the way I look at it is um if you go into a debate, you l you lost already.
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Everyone loses in the debate because everyone's there just to win.
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I'm there to have, I'm looking at it more of a discussion to share ideas and uh see who's uh willing to change their mind based on new information.
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I mean, back to the Jubilee thing for a second.
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I love watching the Jubilee surroundeds, and every time I'm watching, I'm just like, I can't wait till Dave does one of these one day.
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Well, this is it.
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This is it on Monday, October 5th, 315.
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Um, you can find it on my website, flat earthdave.com.
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It's the first video in the upper left-hand corner, right there.
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Click it and click notify me.
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And I mean, since everyone will be watching this after it's been recorded, it'll still be up at the time, right?
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It'll it'll still be there.
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Yes, it'll still be there.
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Well, look, best of luck to you.
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I look forward to checking it out.
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Thank you.
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I just hope that you guys have a spirited conversation and that there's no mud slinging, which I don't think is something that you do.
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And I just hope that they don't sing in a mud.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Well, they will.
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I'm pretty sure that they will.
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But that's okay.
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They're allowed to sling as much mud as they want.
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Well, they lose at that point.
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That's right.
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Yeah.
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With all of that, you ready to hop into the first question?
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Sure.
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All right.
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Since we last spoke in 2022, is there anything that you've changed your mind about?
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That's a big question.
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Anything I change my mind on, I'm sure there's some things.
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I just can't think of them because when I change my mind, I just go based on new information and I forget the old.
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So I'll have to think about that.
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It's a good question, you know?
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Once someone said to me, Dave, name one thing that's not a conspiracy.
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And I had a really hard time.
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I said, Well, Sully landed that plane on the Hudson River after a bird strike out of LaGuardia, and then I found out that wasn't true.
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All right.
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So there's something I changed my mind on.
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Wait, oh, that one wasn't?
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No, it was the total, it was a total I didn't want to dive into conspiracy today, but I'm I'm Dave, you got to tell me about that one really quick.
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So for anyone who's not familiar, I believe that was in 2009 in January, I believe.
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January, am I right about that?
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January 2009.
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It was like it was like 20 below zero.
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It was super cold.
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And he supposedly did this hero landing on the river.
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But excuse me, somebody um filmed a barge pulling something covered in a black tarp into that position and then uncovering it, it was an airplane, and then people getting off of the barge standing on the wing.
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And so ask me why they did that.
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Ask me who participated.
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I couldn't tell you.
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All I can tell you was the entire story doesn't make any sense when you look into it.
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And then, of course, Tom Hanks stars in the movie.
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And if you know anything about Tom Hanks, it's it's not good.
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We'll just go there without diving into the Tom Hanks world.
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So the Sully thing didn't happen.
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Nope.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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I I look, I haven't seen the tape.
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I can't Yeah, I don't believe anything I say.
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I always tell people that.
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Just uh you have to look deeper into um these things that you want to believe.
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Like belief is the enemy of knowing, right?
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Daniel, I live in Connecticut.
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Where do I live?
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Is there a second part to that?
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No.
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We've done this before.
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Well, I remember this from before.
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Okay.
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Because I would take your word for it, and then later on you'd ask me if you live in Connecticut.
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Or ask me, where do I live?
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I say Connecticut.
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Like, well, yeah, yeah, but if you're not going to be able to do it.
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Do you know that?
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Or do you because I told you that?
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You're bingo, bingo.
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So belief is easy.
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It takes no effort.
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If you wanted to actually prove it, it would take you a little bit of time.
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Not much with the internet, go online, find my Facebook posts, see the pictures, look at the metadata, figure it out.
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You can figure it out, but it takes time and effort.
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People want to do things that are easy.
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People want the easy way out.
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Nothing wrong with that.
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You know, we want to find the easiest way to do things.
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And the easiest way to do things is just believe and rather and and uh believe and trust, you know.
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I want to live in a world where I can believe and trust everybody no matter what they say, but there's only a small group of people, it's actually a growing group of people that um I do believe and trust, but I do um like to verify things.
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You know what's interesting.
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Has anyone ever said that you're psychic before?
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Yeah, you know, I do have um I do have a a good second sense, you know, that that gut that gut second sense.
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What what makes you say that?
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Did I say something that you were about to say?
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Yeah, my next question was what's the difference between believing and knowing?
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Yeah.
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So that's the difference right there.
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We we we did it.
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So last time when we spoke, the sentiment of what you said is the reason for the flat earth, I'm sorry, for the globe narrative is to make people feel insignificant.
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It's you're asking me why people lie.
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I'm not the one that's lying, but it's pretty clear on some of the reasons that they're lying.
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You know, make you feel insignificant, separate you from God.
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It's clear that the leaders of this world or the people that we call the leaders, um, do want to separate us from God.
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They don't want us having a connection to God, and they're doing everything they can to separate us um spiritually, six feet separation.
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That's our our our field, you know, our heart, heart energy field.
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They want to keep us apart.
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They want to um disprove God.
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Government wants to be the God, government wants to rule over you, and government does not rule over me.
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People say, Dave, what did you vote?
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Blue or red?
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I'm not voting for either because if I vote for blue and red wins, or if I vote for red and blue wins, I agreed that that other that either one of them can rule over me.
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Neither one of them can rule over me.
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The only thing rules over me is God.
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Did you feel insignificant before you I'll still put in quotes discovered the earth was flat?
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No.
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I just felt you know the the the claim that globers make and they love, you know, most 99% of the stuff they accuse us of is literally projection on themselves.
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You guys are just grifting and whatever.
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You're you there's no proof of flat earth, right?
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The opposite is true.
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But when people say you flat earthers just want to feel special, you just you you did this, so you you think you have some sacred knowledge, that's not true at all.
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I just want the truth, right?
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Flat globe triangle, I don't care.
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I just want to know the truth.
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And, you know, you can go to people that that will fight me on this.
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They'll say Earth is definitely a globe, and I'll say, I'll try to you.
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You've been in this for a while.
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What's the radius of the globe?
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It's approximately 24,000 miles or right somewhere around there.
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What's the what's the rotational speed of the globe at the equator?
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Approximately a thousand miles per hour.
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So that one you got right.
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How far is it from the sun?
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93 million miles.
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So so you know some of these things, but 99% of the people that will defend the globe don't know them.
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How did they figure out how far it was from the sun?
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Was it using was it lasers at that point?
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No.
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Or was it some kind of astrological measurement?
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It was it was pseudoscience, is what it was.
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It's it's just it's absolute nonsense.
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Um, they figured it out by the transit of Mercury, Mercury um or transit of Venus.
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Um Venus is about the same size as Earth, and they watched someone on the East Coast and someone on the West Coast saw the transit happen and start and stop at different times.
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They did some math, they figured it out, and they could calculate how far the how far it was.
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Great math.
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The math is real.
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The problem is you assume that Venus is the size of Earth.
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I don't know.
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I think Venus could be, you know, the size of my house.
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I don't know.
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But it but to assume something in a calculation makes doesn't make the math wrong.
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It makes the the answer wrong.
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So everything about the globe is pseudoscience.
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People think there's all tons of scientific evidence for the globe.
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I offer three bitcoins for one scientific proof of globe.
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I still have more bitcoins.
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Yes, it's worth a lot more now.
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Or actually, it may have been worth more back in 2022 when you offered it.
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It was worth more last year, but it'll be worth more in a very short period of time.
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I think I think it's going up.
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But that's just my personal opinion.
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That one I might be wrong on.
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About Bitcoin?
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Bitcoin, Bitcoin gonna more than double this year.
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Or within within the year.
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Speculative.
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Yeah, speculative.
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Yeah, but that that one at least you're willing to admit it.
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Yeah, you know, it also covers your ass for in the future if it you know you're I never tell anybody, I never tell anybody what to do.
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I don't give financial advice, but until you're living on a on a flat or a flat disc.
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Well, that's we're not on a disc, we're not floating in space, we're not moving.
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So but when you came on before, you said the reason that the notion of a globe was perpetuated was to make you feel insignificant.
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And then when I asked you if you felt insignificant when you thought you were living on a globe, you said no.
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So what's the reason for the globe?
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That's that's a that's a good um, I didn't know that I was insignificant.
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I was just a random, you know, evolution from Pons Gum, you know, up through the monkeys, and here I am.
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And um, I thought that was life, you know, whatever.
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I'm I'm having my experience here when I'm dead on warm food.
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And I know I know that for a fact to not be true.
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I can't tell you exactly what happens, but I've had enough evidence put to me showing that there is a creator and that if you're spiritually connected, um this world is literally the last the only word I can think of is is magical.
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It's it's literally magical.
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But I don't believe the earth is flat.
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I know it's not a globe.
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It's level, it's horizontal, it's non-rotating, not moving.
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Every test to prove axial rotation or curvature has failed and proved the opposite.
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It's just we don't even need to do any more tests right now because the it's been done too many times.
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It's just getting the information out there.
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Google is not delivering the information to people that are looking for it.
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They're good, they're giving them the answer that's going to keep them as a slave in the system.
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But you you told me that the reason why the narrative is perpetuated is to make you feel insignificant.
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But you told me that you didn't feel insignificant.
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Well, I think that the main reason that they that they do this is to keep us uh slaves in this system and uh to keep us weakened, not connected to God, which makes you more um insignificant.
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And you know what?
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Maybe I maybe I did feel insignificant, but that's not why I went down the flat earth path.
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Not to become um more significant, it's just a factor that comes with it.
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I know that I'm at the center of creation.
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I know that my thoughts create my physical reality.
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I know that the words and the thoughts that I think change physical reality around me.
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I know that nobody can rule over me without my consent.
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I know that I don't have to do anything anybody tells me to do.
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Everything is an offer, and it's up to me to make my choice.
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I know that they always tell us the truth, and we always have the right to say no, thank you.
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But if your thoughts create your reality, we'll go with that for a second.
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Then you could be living on a flat earth because your thoughts have created your reality.
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Now, can I be living on a globe because my thoughts have created the reality that it's a globe?
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Well, I didn't mean it in that way.
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What I mean is your thoughts create the circumstances in your life.
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It is clear and scientifically provable that we are on a level plane.
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70% of the water of the earth is water, 50% of the ocean is abyssal plains, which is a flat surface.
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So, where does the curvature come in?
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If the earth is a globe at the radius that they tell us seven, five, seven, seven, three, five, nine, five miles.
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And well, hold on.
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What does this have to do with my thoughts creating the reality that I live on a globe?
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So, so what I'm saying is the your thoughts create your physical circumstances where we are, which is a flat, non-rotating plane.
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It's not going to change the shape of the earth.
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Now you can 100% believe we live on a globe, and everything you experience, you'll be like, oh, that's a globe.
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Oh, I see curvature.
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I look out at the water and I see a big swooping circle, but you don't realize that you see in a big, big swooping circle, right?
00:22:12.669 --> 00:22:14.829
So you'll think globe, I'll understand that.
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No, we just see the same distance in all directions.
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That's a circle.
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I can get it in uh Photoshop, I can crunch it and see the curve even more, but that's not a curve.
00:22:23.230 --> 00:22:26.189
That's like looking at the edge of a hula hoop and saying it's a sphere.
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Um, it's just your experience.
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Now, does that what does that do to you?
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There's people that believe we live on a globe that are doing just fine.
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They have their their their life, their families, things things are good.
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But when you understand our place in this creation, I think it gives you a little more, a little more power to live to your your fullest.
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Live to your full potential.
00:22:53.629 --> 00:22:58.750
So how does a flat earth help us understand our place in all of it?
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On a globe earth, there you have um a story.
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Once upon a time there was nothing, it exploded and became everything, and then gas balls formed and started lighting up, and rock balls formed, and lightning struck, and created an amoeba, and it climbed out of the water and saw another sexy fish with legs and had a monkey, and the monkey had a human.
00:23:16.669 --> 00:23:19.389
You can believe that all natural evolution.
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Or you can believe that God created the Big Bang and created this infinite universe.
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So we're in an infinite expanding universe, and there's could be billions of other earths out there.
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You can believe that.
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That's diluting God.
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But on a flat earth, we know that this was created for us.
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We are in an enclosed system that was created for us.
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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Hold on, hold on back to duting.
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There's no faith.
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When you're a flat earth, there's no faith.
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We can discuss all day who is God, why, where, what, when, but there's no faith that there's a creator in flat earth.
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There's a knowing that there is.
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Go ahead.
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I mean, you said that even when it comes to well, because I'll just say I fall on the side of I believe in the Big Bang, but I believe that God created the Big Bang.
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You have a belief.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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I own it.
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But you said that that kind of diluted.
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What percentage what percentage is your belief that God created the earth?
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99.9.
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99.9?
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Well, you have a little bit of doubt.
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I have zero doubt.
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There's zero.
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There's a difference between believing something 99.9999% and 100%.
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Because when it's 99.999, whatever percent, you have the doubt.
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There's still doubt in there.
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And that little bit of doubt um can cause you to fluctuate.
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But if you're 100%, you have no room for change for um there's no no room for having faith.
00:24:47.149 --> 00:24:48.109
It's just a knowing.
00:24:48.429 --> 00:24:58.429
Well, can't it be that some of that doubt would be that maybe it's because there's a part of me that believes that something that God created created Earth?
00:24:58.750 --> 00:25:00.589
Do you believe we're in a simulation?
00:25:01.069 --> 00:25:10.349
I believe that that is the only way that we can explain it because of the terminology that we have at our disposal right now, as opposed to, you know, 200 years ago, they could.
00:25:10.669 --> 00:25:12.829
But I think it goes beyond what a simulation is.
00:25:12.909 --> 00:25:18.990
Now, of course, as a past life regressionist, I believe that we are, you know, on a very basic level, a soul.
00:25:19.230 --> 00:25:36.589
And that that soul comes into the body, which in that respect, I guess you could consider Earth to be a, you know, I'll put it in quotes, a simulation because it's coming into the existence of something else, almost like going into an avatar or a video game, again, with the terminology that we have at our disposal.
00:25:36.750 --> 00:25:41.470
But do I think that it is completely controlled in every respect?
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I believe in in fate and free will at the same time.
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So do you you believe that souls um live outside of the body and then come here to have a physical experience in this realm that God created?
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That's what you believe?
00:25:55.389 --> 00:25:55.629
Yes.
00:25:55.869 --> 00:25:56.029
Okay.
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Where where do the souls reside um when they're not in a body?
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Just where where do you think they reside?
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You can say somewhere if you don't know.
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Oh, I don't know.
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Just somewhere.
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Yeah.
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I don't think that they're destroyed.
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I think they're in outer space.
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Do they go to outer like other stars?
00:26:09.869 --> 00:26:10.109
Sure.
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Could be.
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That's pretty far.
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That's pretty far.
00:26:14.829 --> 00:26:15.149
Sure.
00:26:15.389 --> 00:26:19.629
You know, how close, you know how close the closest star is to our solar system?
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The closest star, I believe, is four light years away.
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Yeah, four and a half light years, 25 trillion miles.
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Do you know how far that is?
00:26:26.589 --> 00:26:27.309
Pretty far.
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Do you know how big a one trillion is?
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One trillion seconds, how long is it?
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Uh I look, I can't tell you.
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It's it's got to be more than 100 years.
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More than very close, very close.
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31,000 years.
00:26:40.109 --> 00:26:40.269
Okay.
00:26:40.669 --> 00:26:40.909
Oh, yeah.
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Well, it was only off by 30, you know, 3900.
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Yeah, 30,900.
00:26:46.109 --> 00:26:48.029
Yeah, nine, and a lot more.
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Um, so if you and I were in a rocket ship going a mile per second faster than anyone's ever gone, for uh for 31,000 years, we're one twenty-fifth of the way to the closest star.
00:26:58.029 --> 00:26:59.710
We got to do that 24 more times to get there.
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And then when we get there and we realize, oh, there's no souls here.
00:27:02.509 --> 00:27:05.149
Um, the next star is multiples farther than that.
00:27:05.230 --> 00:27:07.069
So I didn't say they only go to stars.
00:27:07.149 --> 00:27:07.549
I'm saying that's the thing.
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No, no, no, no.
00:27:08.509 --> 00:27:09.149
Forget the soul thing.
00:27:09.710 --> 00:27:12.429
I don't think it would be confined to you know a rocket ship, also.
00:27:12.829 --> 00:27:14.269
So get getting getting to my point.
00:27:14.429 --> 00:27:18.189
My point is it's diluting this creation that you believe in.
00:27:18.269 --> 00:27:21.230
It's you believe in a very diluted creation.
00:27:21.470 --> 00:27:23.869
I believe in a concentrated creation.
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Everything is here.
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God, as it says in the Bible, is right above us.
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He can see down and see all of us.
00:27:29.869 --> 00:27:31.549
Can't do that on a ball, right?
00:27:31.789 --> 00:27:33.470
Um Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:27:33.629 --> 00:27:33.950
Timeout.
00:27:34.109 --> 00:27:34.829
Sorry, I got it.
00:27:35.230 --> 00:27:43.950
But if God can see everything, why can't, you know, even if it's a ball, why can't God be looking up, looking down, looking straight, looking backwards?
00:27:44.269 --> 00:27:47.710
Well, God, if God looks down on a ball, it could be people hidden on the bottom of the ball.
00:27:47.869 --> 00:27:56.269
And it because it says it's a and that if you're a Bible believer, it says that when when uh God returns, um, everyone on earth will see at the same time.
00:27:56.509 --> 00:28:03.470
And uh some preachers that believe in the globe, they say, well, everyone has iPhones, they'll see on their iPhones if they're on the other side of the earth when he comes back.
00:28:03.789 --> 00:28:06.750
But we don't need to go down the road, we don't yeah, it is semantics.
00:28:06.909 --> 00:28:08.589
We don't need to go down go down that road.
00:28:08.909 --> 00:28:15.789
My point is if you believe that we're here having this physical experience, well, there are physical things that we can measure.
00:28:16.029 --> 00:28:17.309
There is no curvature.
00:28:17.389 --> 00:28:24.269
If the earth has a radius the size that they tell us, we can calculate how how far until things are hidden behind the hill, right?
00:28:24.509 --> 00:28:30.189
If you were outside and ducking behind a 10-foot hill, I couldn't see you if I was on the other side of that hill, right?
00:28:30.589 --> 00:28:31.389
Wait, sorry.
00:28:31.470 --> 00:28:32.750
Let's get back to that in a second.
00:28:32.829 --> 00:28:36.109
I want to go back to God only being able to see down on a ball.
00:28:36.429 --> 00:28:44.990
Well, I'm just saying that you think that the whatever created this does not have the ability to see I'll re I'll rephrase it.
00:28:45.389 --> 00:28:52.509
What I was trying to quote was when God returns and descends from the heavens, everyone on earth will see at the same time.
00:28:52.669 --> 00:28:55.549
I don't know how that works on a ball unless you unless you want to talk about the bigger.
00:28:55.789 --> 00:29:02.349
I think the assumption that is like that means that God will come down looking like a human in one place.
00:29:02.509 --> 00:29:06.269
But who's to say that God wouldn't appear as something else that would fill out?
00:29:06.429 --> 00:29:10.750
Yeah, but it says everyone, it says everyone on earth will see at the same time.
00:29:10.990 --> 00:29:11.470
Yeah.
00:29:11.789 --> 00:29:14.750
But that you're assuming that God can only be at one place at one time.
00:29:14.990 --> 00:29:17.710
But but here's the thing this is these are discussions that can go on forever.
00:29:17.789 --> 00:29:18.509
I like looking at the city.
00:29:18.669 --> 00:29:21.309
Well, I'm trying to help you see how that can be possible.
00:29:21.710 --> 00:29:26.429
I got it, but I don't even like talking about it because it's I like talking about the physical science, right?
00:29:26.750 --> 00:29:30.269
Uh over a 10-mile lake, there should be 66 feet of curvature.
00:29:30.349 --> 00:29:31.950
That's like a six-story building.
00:29:32.189 --> 00:29:34.349
So a six-story, a six-story building.
00:29:34.509 --> 00:29:44.029
So if I in the middle of that lake, if let's say we lived on a flat earth and I built a six-story wall in the middle of that lake and you're on the other side of the lake, could I see you?
00:29:44.429 --> 00:29:45.950
Can you repeat that one more time?
00:29:46.189 --> 00:29:53.950
If I'm looking across a lake and there should be 66 feet of curvature, can I see somebody sitting on the shoreline of that uh the other side of the lake 10 miles away?
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66 feet of curvature.
00:29:55.869 --> 00:29:57.950
That means there's a 66 foot high hill.
00:29:58.189 --> 00:30:00.990
I don't know, but I'm gonna assume that you're saying no.
00:30:01.389 --> 00:30:03.470
Well, absolutely no.
00:30:03.629 --> 00:30:11.950
And then if you want to say add refraction and it's really not 66 feet, it's it's half because you're halfway down this side of the ball and you're halfway down this side of the ball.
00:30:12.029 --> 00:30:14.029
So it's only 33 feet, right?
00:30:14.189 --> 00:30:19.710
And then you have to um take out six feet for the observer height, so there's only 30 feet of curvature.
00:30:19.789 --> 00:30:23.149
If you're on the other side of a 30-foot-high hill, I can't see you.
00:30:23.309 --> 00:30:29.869
And the only thing that the globe gym gym, the globe gymnastics can do is come up with, oh, refraction.
00:30:30.189 --> 00:30:34.990
The light is bending up over the curve and pretending to just appear to be right on that horizon.
00:30:35.069 --> 00:30:37.629
And the horizon is a horizontal eye zone.
00:30:37.789 --> 00:30:42.109
The horizon's always flat, it's always level, it always rises as you rise.
00:30:42.269 --> 00:30:44.589
As you rise and see farther, it should drop.
00:30:44.750 --> 00:30:48.909
Everything goes down and away on a ball, but that's not what we experience.
00:30:49.230 --> 00:30:49.549
Okay.
00:30:50.189 --> 00:30:51.149
I'll take your word for it.
00:30:51.389 --> 00:30:59.869
I want to get back to the God thing for a second because you said earlier that my belief in God creating the Big Bang dilutes God.
00:31:00.109 --> 00:31:01.549
Yes, it dilutes God.
00:31:01.869 --> 00:31:06.829
Am I the one diluting God by saying that God can't appear to everyone all at once?
00:31:07.069 --> 00:31:12.029
No, you're you're you're making claims, stuff that you we can just we can make up stuff all the time.
00:31:12.109 --> 00:31:12.909
You might be right.
00:31:13.069 --> 00:31:18.269
But let's even just say for a second- We live in a world that is expanding to nothingness.
00:31:18.669 --> 00:31:23.149
Dave, let's just say that all the science does back up your claim that the earth is flat.
00:31:23.309 --> 00:31:24.349
Okay, it does.
00:31:24.829 --> 00:31:27.869
You're making a big claim saying that God created that.
00:31:28.029 --> 00:31:29.950
You can't prove that God created that.
00:31:30.269 --> 00:31:34.589
Well, if if something is inside an enclosed system, did something make that enclosed system?
00:31:34.829 --> 00:31:37.549
Well, who's to say that it wasn't created by something else?
00:31:37.789 --> 00:31:39.389
Well, something else, a creator.
00:31:39.470 --> 00:31:40.429
I'm not even calling it God.
00:31:40.509 --> 00:31:41.710
I'm just thinking there's a creator.
00:31:41.869 --> 00:31:47.710
You can we can argue all day long, well, for weeks and forever, on who that creator is, but there is a creator.
00:31:48.029 --> 00:31:52.429
So right now, let's just, you know, say that God created humans.
00:31:52.669 --> 00:32:00.349
And humans have now created artificial intelligence, or as uh president has recently said, SI.
00:32:00.990 --> 00:32:08.269
Did God create artificial intelligence or superior intelligence, or did humans create superior intelligence?
00:32:08.589 --> 00:32:11.470
I believe that we have complete and total free will.
00:32:11.710 --> 00:32:14.029
I believe that there is good and evil here.
00:32:14.189 --> 00:32:20.589
And I do believe that um artificial intelligence is not uh what it's not just an algorithm, it's a little bit more than that.
00:32:20.669 --> 00:32:22.269
I think I believe so too.
00:32:22.349 --> 00:32:26.109
But was it humans that programmed the zeros and ones, or was it God that did that?
00:32:26.349 --> 00:32:28.029
Um, I that's a good question.
00:32:28.189 --> 00:32:29.789
I guess it would be humans.
00:32:30.109 --> 00:32:34.189
So with that logic, can it be something that created God?
00:32:34.349 --> 00:32:37.789
That again, I'm gonna just say right now, if all the science facts up what you're saying.
00:32:38.189 --> 00:32:55.149
That is so listen, no, it's not about what God is, but it's but could say the creator could have created something that created the flat earth, just like humans were the ones that created artificial intelligence and were then also, by extension, in this created by God.
00:32:55.389 --> 00:32:58.349
Can it be something that's on par with humans in that respect?
00:32:58.509 --> 00:33:02.269
Or that the flat earth was created by something that was created by the creator.
00:33:02.509 --> 00:33:03.710
All right, we live on a flat earth.
00:33:03.789 --> 00:33:04.029
Thank you.
00:33:04.109 --> 00:33:04.909
Welcome to flat earth.
00:33:05.069 --> 00:33:10.990
Well, I said, in your hypothetical I'm not talking about who made flat earth, I'm talking about where we live and how we can measure it.
00:33:11.149 --> 00:33:13.549
The earth is measured flat, period.
00:33:13.869 --> 00:33:16.349
We can see far beyond the physical limitations of a globe.
00:33:18.109 --> 00:33:21.470
You made the claim that I am diluting God by my thoughts.
00:33:21.789 --> 00:33:22.269
That's my opinion.
00:33:22.429 --> 00:33:23.069
That's my opinion by.
00:33:24.750 --> 00:33:29.069
That is my opinion, but the measurements of earth are not my opinion.
00:33:29.230 --> 00:33:31.069
They're scientific facts.
00:33:31.710 --> 00:33:32.029
Okay.
00:33:33.149 --> 00:33:35.230
So I want to go back to this again.
00:33:35.309 --> 00:33:38.349
You know, you saying about God appearing and only being able to look down.
00:33:38.669 --> 00:33:39.309
That's my opinion.
00:33:39.549 --> 00:33:40.909
I don't want to talk about my opinion.
00:33:41.069 --> 00:33:45.549
I want to talk about the physical makeup of this earth, things that we can scientifically prove.
00:33:45.789 --> 00:33:48.429
Your belief that we that God created a big bang, great.
00:33:48.509 --> 00:33:49.549
I can't say that's not true.
00:33:49.869 --> 00:33:50.829
Okay, it's your belief.
00:33:50.990 --> 00:33:51.549
That's your belief.
00:33:51.629 --> 00:33:52.669
It's not my belief.
00:33:52.909 --> 00:33:56.189
But we can measure the earth, and the earth is measured flat.
00:33:56.509 --> 00:34:11.789
Uh let's go to another claim that you've made that we talked about this in the previous episode, that humans are um people are being kept out of Antarctica because of the giant ice wall or because of what's hidden in Antarctica.
00:34:12.269 --> 00:34:14.590
That's not a claim, that's not a claim of mine.
00:34:14.750 --> 00:34:21.230
I said that there is there appears to be a shoreline that enclosed our oceans, which which isn't, which is Antarctica.
00:34:21.389 --> 00:34:22.909
Um, I don't call it a wall.
00:34:23.070 --> 00:34:24.429
I just say it's the shoreline.
00:34:24.510 --> 00:34:28.269
And it it's um it is provably, you know, hundreds of feet higher than the ocean.
00:34:28.349 --> 00:34:30.030
It is a container for our water.
00:34:30.190 --> 00:34:31.309
What's in Antarctica?
00:34:31.389 --> 00:34:35.389
There's lots of whistleblowers talking about there's cities there, there's all sorts of stuff.
00:34:35.470 --> 00:34:37.630
There's mining operations going on there.
00:34:37.789 --> 00:34:46.269
Um, and who knows what's beyond uh what's beyond you know 80 degrees south because no one is allowed to independently explore beyond 60 degrees south.
00:34:46.590 --> 00:34:48.429
But does that prove that the earth is flat?
00:34:48.590 --> 00:34:51.389
That claim in and of itself, or is that just a separate claim you're making?
00:34:51.710 --> 00:35:00.269
So the two places that would tell us what this place is is the North Pole and free and free and open exploration beyond 60 degrees south.
00:35:00.349 --> 00:35:03.710
Both of those, all the countries in the world agree, nobody is allowed to do.
00:35:03.870 --> 00:35:04.830
That's weird.
00:35:05.070 --> 00:35:08.190
So the fact that we're not allowed to do it doesn't prove anything.
00:35:08.510 --> 00:35:20.110
If they allowed it and if we had the capability to explore there, yeah, we would clearly see that this is not a spinning ball in a in a scientifically natural law-defying space vacuum.
00:35:21.150 --> 00:35:23.950
Let's talk about Antarctica, uh, Antarctica a little more.
00:35:24.190 --> 00:35:24.430
Sure.
00:35:24.750 --> 00:35:28.910
There was recently, it was in an expedition that was called, so I wrote it down here.
00:35:29.070 --> 00:35:30.750
It was the experiment.
00:35:30.830 --> 00:35:31.630
Yeah, yeah, the failed experiment.
00:35:31.789 --> 00:35:35.470
I don't think that's what they called it, but what did they call it?
00:35:36.430 --> 00:35:38.030
Yeah, let me let me preempt you.
00:35:38.910 --> 00:35:40.269
I'll just tell you what what's going on there.
00:35:40.510 --> 00:35:42.510
First, it's done by a fake pastor.
00:35:42.590 --> 00:35:43.950
Um final experiment.
00:35:44.030 --> 00:35:44.910
That's what it was called, right?
00:35:45.070 --> 00:35:55.789
Yeah, it's a fake pastor, and um, this guy is under federal um whatever the and he's being um sued by tons of people for financial fraud.
00:35:55.950 --> 00:35:57.789
He's already paid a million dollars in fines.
00:35:57.870 --> 00:36:06.030
He has 10 charges against him, some of them that could put him in jail, but all he cares about is settling the flat earth debate.
00:36:06.110 --> 00:36:18.990
And he brings a bunch of propped up anti-flat earth trolls um to Antarctica, along with he was supposed to take me, but as you said, I do have a little spiritual psychicness, and I could see right through this guy.
00:36:19.070 --> 00:36:21.630
And from this first email, I said, Don't ever contact me again.
00:36:21.710 --> 00:36:22.910
I don't work with demons.
00:36:23.070 --> 00:36:24.510
And uh, that's my belief.
00:36:24.670 --> 00:36:26.190
I don't have any proof of that.
00:36:26.430 --> 00:36:28.670
And um, he brought people to Antarctica.
00:36:28.830 --> 00:36:32.590
Now, the people that went said that they saw the 24-hour sun.
00:36:32.830 --> 00:36:38.590
They never provided um proper 24 hours or longer video of it.
00:36:38.750 --> 00:36:40.990
They just gave us segments of videos.
00:36:41.230 --> 00:36:43.630
The videos that they gave us had major problems.
00:36:43.710 --> 00:36:47.710
As the sun went up and down, it never changed colors, the sky never changed colors.
00:36:47.870 --> 00:36:53.070
In Antarctica, um, the number of sunny days you can usually count on one hand.
00:36:53.230 --> 00:37:00.750
And when they got there, the people that were just leaving said, we've been here for three months and then we haven't seen the sun once, and now it's blue sky.
00:37:00.830 --> 00:37:01.630
The day they got there.
00:37:01.710 --> 00:37:02.430
That's weird.
00:37:02.670 --> 00:37:07.710
And there's a whole bunch of anomalies of what went wrong with that trip.
00:37:08.030 --> 00:37:11.870
So let's pretend that they did go there and there is a circling sun.
00:37:12.190 --> 00:37:16.830
Well, we do have a model that would put a circling sun in Antarctica.
00:37:16.910 --> 00:37:20.190
Now, I think the model's a little like, whoa, it's a little out there.
00:37:20.269 --> 00:37:22.910
And uh, with the sun really a flat earth model.
00:37:23.150 --> 00:37:24.110
A flat earth model.
00:37:24.350 --> 00:37:31.710
But that flat earth model is a billion times more realistic than the heliocentric model, right?
00:37:31.789 --> 00:37:33.870
What's the sun made out of in the heliocentric model?
00:37:33.950 --> 00:37:34.830
What's the sun made out of?
00:37:34.910 --> 00:37:35.390
Do you know?
00:37:35.630 --> 00:37:36.190
Gas.
00:37:36.510 --> 00:37:38.110
Helium and hydrogen mostly, right?
00:37:38.190 --> 00:37:38.670
99%.
00:37:39.070 --> 00:37:39.950
Helium and hydrogen.
00:37:40.110 --> 00:37:42.269
Helium and helium and hydrogen are gases.
00:37:42.510 --> 00:37:46.750
Gases, when uncontained, will violently fill the available space.
00:37:47.070 --> 00:37:51.710
And they they they um defy gravity here on Earth.
00:37:51.870 --> 00:38:08.110
But for some reason, in space, instead of filling the vacuum violently like all gases would, they collapse upon themselves and create a burning um nuclear fusion ball that burns 640 billion tons of fuel every hour for billions of years, but never gets any smaller.
00:38:08.269 --> 00:38:12.990
And it has gravity that can hold on to Pluto and all the other planets, but ignores our moon.
00:38:13.309 --> 00:38:23.789
And the the mental gymnastics of the heliocentric explanation theories about the lights in the sky that you can't science the sky are absolute insanity.
00:38:23.950 --> 00:38:26.190
But people just say, well, we know what the sun is.
00:38:26.350 --> 00:38:27.870
No, we don't know what the sun is.
00:38:28.030 --> 00:38:33.789
They they thought the sun was 3 million miles away, then they thought it was 13 million miles away, now it's 93 million miles away.
00:38:33.870 --> 00:38:40.430
They tell us Polaris, our most important star, is 433 light years away, but now they want to make it 333 light years away.
00:38:40.510 --> 00:38:42.510
That's a hundred light years, right?
00:38:42.670 --> 00:38:44.750
They don't know shit about the sky.
00:38:44.990 --> 00:38:53.950
And so if you just look at the guy that put this together, the people that he took and the situations between all of them, which is it's a multi-hour podcast.
00:38:54.030 --> 00:38:58.510
And I actually have videos if anyone wants to watch, it's super suspect.
00:38:58.830 --> 00:39:06.190
Nobody has ever filmed the 24-hour sun in Antarctica before that trip, except one guy that works for the history channel.
00:39:06.350 --> 00:39:07.470
I think it's the history channel.
00:39:07.550 --> 00:39:14.430
He filmed it four times, and all four of those were provenly edited, faked, layered videos.
00:39:14.670 --> 00:39:20.190
Why would somebody fake the videos and then all of a sudden, you know, it's here.
00:39:20.430 --> 00:39:22.670
Final, final statement, I'll throw it back to you.
00:39:22.830 --> 00:39:23.950
Is the moon landing.
00:39:24.110 --> 00:39:25.630
Do you believe in the moon landing?
00:39:26.110 --> 00:39:38.110
I believe that we've been to the moon, but I can't say for sure that what we saw was like I think it's entirely possible that what we saw, you know, yeah, yeah, I used to have that belief too.
00:39:38.350 --> 00:39:44.430
But um, my my statement is going to be as strong with you that but the whole moon landing was to hide what's going on in Antarctica.
00:39:44.750 --> 00:39:46.830
Admiral Byrd in 19 uh 40.
00:39:47.230 --> 00:39:47.630
43.
00:39:48.110 --> 00:39:50.590
Yeah, he he went, did Project High 47.
00:39:50.910 --> 00:39:51.150
47.
00:39:51.630 --> 00:39:52.990
Project High Jump, right?
00:39:53.070 --> 00:39:55.070
Because of the ice wall, right?
00:39:55.230 --> 00:40:00.990
And uh he came back, said there's more land on the other side of the South Pole, bigger than the United States, and nobody has ever stepped foot upon.
00:40:01.070 --> 00:40:04.110
Well, that would be in between um Australia and Africa.
00:40:04.190 --> 00:40:08.190
And I think somebody would have stepped foot on it by then, but nobody has, right?
00:40:08.269 --> 00:40:09.870
So that doesn't make sense on a globe.
00:40:10.030 --> 00:40:11.789
On a flat earth, it makes perfect sense.
00:40:11.950 --> 00:40:14.590
Well, then they quickly opened up NASA.
00:40:14.910 --> 00:40:16.830
We're going to go into the moon.
00:40:16.990 --> 00:40:18.030
We're not going to the moon.
00:40:18.110 --> 00:40:20.030
Only a bunch of Freemasons are going to the moon.
00:40:20.190 --> 00:40:26.269
And that was a massive in-public psy-op to trick the world into believing that we live on a globe.
00:40:26.350 --> 00:40:27.630
It's a lot to go through.
00:40:27.870 --> 00:40:28.990
It's a jobs program.
00:40:29.070 --> 00:40:31.309
It's all there's a whole bunch of reasons for it.
00:40:31.630 --> 00:40:34.830
This was equal to the moon landing, but it was easy.
00:40:34.990 --> 00:40:36.670
It was where no one else was going to be.
00:40:36.830 --> 00:40:38.590
It was just a handful of people.
00:40:38.830 --> 00:40:41.309
They had control of the entire situation.
00:40:41.550 --> 00:40:42.910
Who knows what happened?
00:40:43.070 --> 00:40:47.950
The one guy, now, the two flat earthers that went, one of them's still a flat earther.
00:40:48.190 --> 00:40:52.910
The other one came back and he's like, Yep, Earth is a globe, moon landing was real.
00:40:53.070 --> 00:40:55.710
He said to us, we said, What if they threaten you?
00:40:55.789 --> 00:40:57.870
What if they do something to you?
00:40:58.030 --> 00:41:09.150
What if they, you know, and he said, If I come back and say that these anti-flat earthers are great guys, I start doing podcasts with them and I start saying that the moon landing is real, you could know that I've been compromised.
00:41:09.390 --> 00:41:11.150
That's exactly what he's doing.
00:41:11.470 --> 00:41:12.910
That's exactly what he's doing, though.
00:41:13.230 --> 00:41:16.510
Or it could be someone who actually had a change of heart.
00:41:16.670 --> 00:41:17.309
No, no, no, no.
00:41:19.550 --> 00:41:21.870
Hold on, have your beliefs never evolved or changed.
00:41:22.110 --> 00:41:24.830
You mean you came out of the womb being like, the earth is flat?
00:41:25.150 --> 00:41:26.110
Of course they do.
00:41:26.269 --> 00:41:30.430
But the the the people that he's dealing with are literally the scum of the earth.
00:41:30.510 --> 00:41:33.230
They're really the most disgusting scum of the earth.
00:41:33.309 --> 00:41:38.910
And for 10 years, this guy was just disgusted with them, comes back their best friends, right?
00:41:39.150 --> 00:41:45.550
There are situations which I'm not gonna speak about with this guy that would completely compromise him.
00:41:45.789 --> 00:41:52.030
He comes back, he's telling, and the way I know he's lying is he making he's making claims about me that are untrue.
00:41:52.190 --> 00:41:53.550
Now I know they're untrue.
00:41:53.710 --> 00:41:56.350
You don't know that they're untrue, but I know they're untrue.
00:41:56.510 --> 00:41:58.030
So that's my truth.
00:41:58.590 --> 00:42:02.670
So the whole entire thing in Antarctica is explainable on a flat Earth.
00:42:02.910 --> 00:42:04.350
I don't believe it happened.
00:42:05.070 --> 00:42:09.150
It's not scientific, it's an observation by a bunch of sketchy characters.
00:42:09.470 --> 00:42:10.350
End of story.
00:42:10.990 --> 00:42:11.950
The earth is measured flat.
00:42:12.350 --> 00:42:15.070
Do you have proof that that person was compromised, though?
00:42:15.390 --> 00:42:15.710
No.
00:42:17.390 --> 00:42:19.950
So is it possible that it's not a good idea?
00:42:20.110 --> 00:42:21.470
What is the scientific experiment?
00:42:21.950 --> 00:42:22.990
What is the scientific experiment?
00:42:23.309 --> 00:42:27.070
Well, is it possible that they actually just were like, you know what?
00:42:27.150 --> 00:42:28.510
I was wrong about this.
00:42:28.990 --> 00:42:29.789
Is it possible?
00:42:29.950 --> 00:42:34.350
It's so it's not possible that they had a experience where they're like, wow.
00:42:34.750 --> 00:42:42.190
I I think that it's possible that they were completely fooled into believing that they saw a circling sun in the sky.
00:42:42.350 --> 00:42:43.230
Very possible.
00:42:43.630 --> 00:42:44.670
That's a different story.
00:42:44.910 --> 00:42:46.910
Now, but that's very it's very possible, but I don't know.
00:42:46.990 --> 00:42:47.470
I wasn't there.
00:42:47.870 --> 00:42:52.910
By that you're saying that something was projected to make them believe.
00:42:53.309 --> 00:42:53.710
I don't know.
00:42:53.950 --> 00:42:55.630
Is that what you're so here's the thing.
00:42:55.789 --> 00:42:56.990
Here's my here's my point of view.
00:42:57.150 --> 00:42:57.870
Here's my point.
00:42:58.350 --> 00:43:01.710
Well, I mean, well, you can see that it's entirely possible that he had a change of heart.
00:43:02.510 --> 00:43:04.910
Listen, I don't think he had a change of heart.
00:43:04.990 --> 00:43:07.870
I think he is in a situation that he doesn't like.
00:43:08.030 --> 00:43:09.150
I that's all that's it.
00:43:09.230 --> 00:43:09.950
That's my opinion.
00:43:10.030 --> 00:43:11.950
But here's the thing, it doesn't matter.
00:43:12.190 --> 00:43:19.550
The movement of a scientifically impossible Narnia laughing space object, which is the sun, right?
00:43:19.710 --> 00:43:22.590
Gas in a vacuum doesn't breaks all natural law.
00:43:22.750 --> 00:43:25.950
The movement of that doesn't prove the shape of anything.
00:43:26.269 --> 00:43:47.470
Yeah, but let's go back to it for a second about why can't you allow yourself to even entertain the possibility that it was on the up and up for this person that they just but they genuinely came to this moment where they're like, I was wrong, whether or not they were deceived, but where that it's not about them being blackmailed or them being bought off.
00:43:47.950 --> 00:43:52.590
You have to go, you have to look at the circumstances of who this guy is.
00:43:52.830 --> 00:43:57.070
Look at the circumstances of look into the background of the people that went.
00:43:57.230 --> 00:43:59.950
Look at all the evidence is overwhelming.
00:44:00.110 --> 00:44:06.190
There's a preponderance of evidence, but that doesn't matter because the earth is measured flat.
00:44:06.350 --> 00:44:08.350
There is no curvature, it's not spiritual.
00:44:08.510 --> 00:44:10.670
I don't, but how hold on, let me finish what I'm saying.
00:44:10.910 --> 00:44:17.070
How can you say with 100% that the sun movement of a light in the sky doesn't prove anything?
00:44:17.230 --> 00:44:18.670
There's no curvature.
00:44:18.990 --> 00:44:22.430
But you also making the act, and I have no idea who this person is, by the way.
00:44:22.510 --> 00:44:23.309
So I'm not sticking to it.
00:44:23.550 --> 00:44:23.950
It doesn't matter.
00:44:24.030 --> 00:44:32.990
Listen, but how can you say with 100% certainty that nothing else factored into this person saying I think the earth is crazy?
00:44:34.430 --> 00:44:35.230
He might believe it.
00:44:35.390 --> 00:44:38.830
His belief doesn't change the physical measurements of the earth.
00:44:39.230 --> 00:44:40.110
That's okay.
00:44:40.269 --> 00:44:47.630
I mean at a light, looking at a light in the sky doesn't change the fact that we can see far beyond anything refraction.
00:44:48.190 --> 00:44:49.070
Fraction is nonsense.
00:44:49.630 --> 00:44:52.110
Nothing refracts from behind a physical object, right?
00:44:53.230 --> 00:44:58.430
Things will distort in your line of view, but if they're not in your line of view, there's no there's no distortion, there's no refraction.
00:44:58.830 --> 00:45:00.510
I mean, why do you think they do this though?
00:45:00.670 --> 00:45:03.150
Like who who was fucking with us for all intents and purposes?
00:45:03.470 --> 00:45:16.269
If you know their names, they're not the ones fucking with us, but it's the it's the Council of Foreign Relations, the Bilderberg Group, the Trilateral Commission, the United Nations, the there's a couple other groups, but those are the ones that run the world, the big corporations that run the world.
00:45:16.510 --> 00:45:18.430
You know, they run our government, everything.
00:45:18.910 --> 00:45:25.390
What I understand of all this, can't you've you've you've most definitely done a deeper dive into all this than I have.
00:45:25.870 --> 00:45:28.990
It's almost like they're mocking us a lot of the time, right?
00:45:29.070 --> 00:45:34.030
With a lot of the things that they do, almost like toying with how some of the stuff is.
00:45:34.430 --> 00:45:35.630
Well, they have to tell us the truth.
00:45:35.710 --> 00:45:37.789
It's called revelation of the method, but go ahead.
00:45:38.030 --> 00:45:40.830
So are they telling me that you're a federal agent?
00:45:41.309 --> 00:45:43.630
Why, because my name is Fed FED?
00:45:43.870 --> 00:45:44.350
Yeah.
00:45:44.510 --> 00:45:46.110
That's the dumbest crap I've ever heard.
00:45:46.190 --> 00:45:50.590
Was my mom, 63 years ago, said, you know, I better give him a D name because there's gonna be a Flat Earth movement.
00:45:50.670 --> 00:45:54.110
He's gonna lead the Flat Earth movement and he'll be FED, and that'll be Revelation of the Method.
00:45:54.190 --> 00:45:55.309
How about just a coincidence?
00:45:55.470 --> 00:45:56.590
What else am I gonna call myself?
00:45:56.750 --> 00:45:57.470
My name's Dave.
00:45:57.550 --> 00:45:58.590
I'm talking about flat earth.
00:45:58.670 --> 00:46:00.510
Give me another, give me another, give me a better name.
00:46:00.830 --> 00:46:03.630
Are you the only person that can have a coincidence?
00:46:05.470 --> 00:46:07.230
What uh what which coincidence are you talking about?
00:46:07.309 --> 00:46:07.550
Which one?
00:46:07.710 --> 00:46:11.309
Well, because it seems like everything is spoken with this absolute certainty of this issue.
00:46:12.269 --> 00:46:15.230
I don't make claims, I don't make names like that.
00:46:15.470 --> 00:46:23.070
If I was using your deductive reasoning, I'd be like, they're fucking with us right now by putting Dave out there who's a lot of people the acronym is FED.
00:46:23.390 --> 00:46:24.190
Yeah you know.
00:46:24.910 --> 00:46:32.910
And I don't think you're a Fed, but if I was like, oh, I want to discount this guy by people who go down the conspiracy rabbit hall, I'll be like, look, man, he's telling us who he is.
00:46:33.070 --> 00:46:34.830
He called himself Flat Earth Dave.
00:46:34.910 --> 00:46:35.950
It spells out Fed.
00:46:36.269 --> 00:46:37.230
How do you not see it?
00:46:37.309 --> 00:46:37.950
He's a Fed.
00:46:38.110 --> 00:46:40.670
I don't I don't think this, but it's the dumbest crap ever.
00:46:41.150 --> 00:46:42.910
Well, there's a lot of shit that's dumb.
00:46:43.070 --> 00:46:43.309
Yeah.
00:46:43.470 --> 00:46:51.470
Go look, go to one of my channels, go to flat earthdave.com um and search for the video called The Failed Experiment and watch it.
00:46:52.350 --> 00:46:53.470
Fair enough.
00:46:53.789 --> 00:46:57.150
How do you scrutinize sources that support your positions?
00:46:57.390 --> 00:46:59.870
I verify everything myself best I can.
00:47:00.190 --> 00:47:02.830
You know, sometimes, sometimes I'll be like, wow, that's amazing.
00:47:03.070 --> 00:47:06.750
And uh I'll like I'll want to run with it, but I have to look at it.
00:47:06.830 --> 00:47:10.990
I have to see how it was laid out, make sure that there's nothing deceptive in there.
00:47:11.150 --> 00:47:22.750
We just had a um one the other day where this guy, Hugo, he zoomed in on a uh with his camera six inches off the water, he zoomed in on an island that was 36 miles away.
00:47:22.990 --> 00:47:28.670
And um, you shouldn't be able to see the top of the highest part, but you can see the lowest part of the of the island.
00:47:28.990 --> 00:47:30.750
And it looked all good.
00:47:30.830 --> 00:47:33.390
And then people's like, no, he's looking at another island.
00:47:33.470 --> 00:47:36.590
And yeah, there was another island that was only like nine miles away.
00:47:36.830 --> 00:47:40.430
But in his zoom, after so looking at it, I was like, hey, you know what?
00:47:40.510 --> 00:47:40.990
Let me check.
00:47:41.390 --> 00:47:44.990
Maybe he's looking at this closer island, and and all the numbers would check out.
00:47:45.150 --> 00:47:49.230
But in his zoom out, you can see the other island right on the right, whiz by.
00:47:49.390 --> 00:47:52.910
And so it wasn't that, but I do verify these things.
00:47:53.230 --> 00:47:54.990
Occasionally, I'll get caught.
00:47:55.070 --> 00:47:56.830
I'll tell you sometimes when I'll get caught.
00:47:57.070 --> 00:47:59.470
Um, globers are desperate.
00:47:59.630 --> 00:48:01.470
So they'll make up fake shit.
00:48:01.630 --> 00:48:09.630
They'll be, they'll pose as a as a flat earth, you know, um researcher, and they'll they'll they'll hand feed us some stuff.
00:48:09.789 --> 00:48:12.350
Now, in a while ago, I fell for a couple of those.
00:48:12.590 --> 00:48:12.990
I did.
00:48:13.150 --> 00:48:16.030
And then I found out, oh, this was a glober and that, you know, whatever.
00:48:16.110 --> 00:48:22.350
All right, so I've learned just before this podcast, I got um a request for me to speak at another school, right?
00:48:22.750 --> 00:48:29.550
I literally went, I looked at the school, I called the school, I asked uh to get the the identify the person.
00:48:29.710 --> 00:48:30.910
It doesn't work at the school.
00:48:30.990 --> 00:48:32.030
It's all bullshit.
00:48:32.190 --> 00:48:44.269
These guys are desperate to make fun of us and say, look, even though there's 900 measurements that prove the earth is not a globe, but this guy fell for this one image, therefore everything's fake.
00:48:44.430 --> 00:48:46.030
That's how that's how they work.
00:48:46.430 --> 00:48:47.710
I think that's wrong.
00:48:48.030 --> 00:48:51.550
It's pathetic that someone would take their time.
00:48:51.870 --> 00:48:52.590
They do it all the time.
00:48:53.390 --> 00:48:54.750
And I'll just say that's I think.
00:48:57.710 --> 00:49:02.750
I think it's better to engage in a conversation with you than to to do stupid shit like that.
00:49:02.910 --> 00:49:09.550
Why why put your energy towards contacting a school or contacting you to make you think like that's just stupid.
00:49:09.710 --> 00:49:10.590
That's just childish.
00:49:10.750 --> 00:49:11.550
Yeah, I think it's wrong.
00:49:11.789 --> 00:49:13.550
Well, the globers are literally children.
00:49:13.630 --> 00:49:15.230
They're they're they're children because when you do it.
00:49:15.390 --> 00:49:15.710
Thanks, Dave.
00:49:16.190 --> 00:49:16.670
Appreciate it.
00:49:16.750 --> 00:49:18.510
Well, uh you know what?
00:49:18.590 --> 00:49:19.710
Let's get into that a little bit.
00:49:19.870 --> 00:49:22.990
What's your number one reason you think the earth is a globe?
00:49:23.470 --> 00:49:25.230
Do you have a scientific reason?
00:49:25.789 --> 00:49:28.670
I am not well versed enough in this field to know.
00:49:28.750 --> 00:49:32.110
And I will just stand by it and say that I I am a believer.
00:49:32.269 --> 00:49:36.510
I can't factually prove it to you until I can go up in a spaceship to see it for myself.
00:49:36.830 --> 00:49:40.750
So you believe that the earth is a globe, and that's all the evidence that you have.
00:49:40.910 --> 00:49:43.150
Just a belief, a faith, uh a hoping.
00:49:43.390 --> 00:49:44.350
A hoping?
00:49:44.830 --> 00:49:49.390
I I would say I wouldn't even say it's a hoping because I don't give enough of a shit.
00:49:49.630 --> 00:49:58.269
To me, whether or not the earth is flat or it's a globe, it doesn't make any difference in my day-to-day life, whether I'm waking up at eight in the morning at 1257.
00:49:58.590 --> 00:50:00.350
Yes, it's just it doesn't.
00:50:00.750 --> 00:50:09.630
And my quest to understand the world around me, it's more inward than it is projected outward.
00:50:09.950 --> 00:50:15.150
I want to understand myself at a fundamental level, who I've been, where I've been where I'm going.
00:50:15.390 --> 00:50:16.590
So no proof of the globe.
00:50:16.830 --> 00:50:17.789
No, I'm okay.
00:50:17.950 --> 00:50:20.430
I look, do I feel that I'm being lied to about many things?
00:50:20.590 --> 00:50:21.470
Yeah, I do.
00:50:21.789 --> 00:50:35.870
So you feel like you're being lied to, you have no proof of the globe, but you think it's but that's still it's one of those, because before your argument for it four years ago, which I've thought about over time, is about the insignificant factor, and I kept thinking, how would it make me feel insignificant?
00:50:35.950 --> 00:50:43.390
And then as I'm even listening to you more and more, I'm like, oh, because in this model, the earth is the center of the universe.
00:50:43.630 --> 00:50:48.830
That's what makes you feel more significant, is that everything revolves around the earth.
00:50:49.070 --> 00:50:51.950
Why would that make you feel anything less than significant?
00:50:52.110 --> 00:50:56.190
Whereas for me, it's like it just I don't see the argument for it.
00:50:56.269 --> 00:51:01.309
I don't see the lengths that someone would go to to make me believe that the earth is round.
00:51:01.470 --> 00:51:03.710
And you know, there's a whole thing with the inquisition.
00:51:04.510 --> 00:51:05.550
You can't see it.
00:51:05.789 --> 00:51:13.230
You can't see it, but what if you saw evidence that proved to you that it's not the size that they tell us?
00:51:13.470 --> 00:51:18.269
What if we if you falsify the radius, everything falls apart?
00:51:18.510 --> 00:51:20.110
So the radius has been falsified.
00:51:20.190 --> 00:51:22.750
The question is, are you willing to look at the evidence?
00:51:22.990 --> 00:51:27.070
I'm hearing you out, but I'm also someone who, when it comes to COVID, I'm like, really?
00:51:27.550 --> 00:51:29.070
A bat in a wet market?
00:51:29.390 --> 00:51:32.269
I don't just blindly listen because the government says it.
00:51:32.430 --> 00:51:34.750
I wasn't rah-rah rah one side or the other.
00:51:34.990 --> 00:51:38.430
Like when I look at this stuff, I do my best to look at it objectively.
00:51:38.590 --> 00:51:45.150
And like I said, ultimately when it comes down to it, it just doesn't matter to me whether or not the earth is round or flat.
00:51:45.309 --> 00:51:47.230
I I feel it makes no difference.
00:51:47.390 --> 00:51:49.230
I already feel like I'm being lied to.
00:51:49.390 --> 00:51:53.309
That would just be like, oh, look, there's one more cherry on top.
00:51:53.710 --> 00:51:56.269
Like to me, this is not the end all be all.
00:51:56.430 --> 00:51:58.430
This is a hill I'm not willing to die on.
00:51:58.590 --> 00:52:01.150
Like, sure, you want me to say that the earth is flat?
00:52:01.309 --> 00:52:02.190
I don't believe it.
00:52:02.269 --> 00:52:04.910
But if you're holding a gun to my head, I'd be like, sure, Dave.
00:52:05.070 --> 00:52:07.150
No, that's no not holding a gun to your head.
00:52:07.230 --> 00:52:13.710
Uh I I just look for your your I asked you why you believe the earth is flat, and you said, I have no proof the earth is flat.
00:52:13.870 --> 00:52:14.750
I just believe it's flat.
00:52:14.830 --> 00:52:15.309
That's what you said.
00:52:15.630 --> 00:52:16.350
No, I believe it's round.
00:52:16.430 --> 00:52:17.070
I don't believe it's flat.
00:52:17.150 --> 00:52:17.630
I mean round.
00:52:17.710 --> 00:52:18.510
I'm sorry, my bad.
00:52:18.910 --> 00:52:20.350
I told you I was just dyslexic.
00:52:20.590 --> 00:52:21.630
It's okay, it happens.
00:52:21.710 --> 00:52:23.070
Look, I fuck up in interviews.
00:52:23.230 --> 00:52:24.670
I'm not gonna hold I'm not gonna hold you that one.
00:52:24.750 --> 00:52:26.670
Don't worry, but like, oh, lookie said you're good, Daddy.
00:52:26.990 --> 00:52:29.230
So, so you have no evidence.
00:52:29.470 --> 00:52:37.550
We can spend the next 50 hours me showing you evidence after evidence after evidence that the earth is flat, but I don't think it'll change your mind.
00:52:38.510 --> 00:52:49.630
I remember there were things that you said last time around where I'm like, I'm not a physicist, but on an elementary level, he makes a good point there.
00:52:49.710 --> 00:52:54.910
Yet I didn't see how it fit into the grand scheme of things because I also know that there are anomalies.
00:52:55.150 --> 00:53:02.030
I know that there are, I know this isn't necessarily about flat Earth, but there can be mirages in the desert.
00:53:02.190 --> 00:53:07.070
You know, there are things Mirages don't happen unless you have line of sight to the object.
00:53:07.309 --> 00:53:11.230
If you put a brick wall in between what you're seeing, you don't see it anymore.
00:53:11.550 --> 00:53:12.350
Okay, sure.
00:53:12.430 --> 00:53:13.070
I I hear that.
00:53:13.230 --> 00:53:19.070
So the Bolivian salt flats are 4,000 square miles of a perfectly flat mirrored lake, right?
00:53:19.150 --> 00:53:21.950
When there's a couple inches of rain, it's a perfectly flat mirror.
00:53:22.030 --> 00:53:23.630
We can see a hundred miles across there.
00:53:23.870 --> 00:53:28.269
There should be a mountain over a mile high in between the observer and the object that they're looking at.
00:53:28.510 --> 00:53:33.789
Yeah, and this is one of those things where I am not well-versed enough to refute what you're saying.
00:53:33.870 --> 00:53:36.430
So I'm like do you play hide and seek when you were five?
00:53:36.670 --> 00:53:38.910
I played hide and seek when I was 35.
00:53:39.150 --> 00:53:39.470
Okay.
00:53:39.710 --> 00:53:47.870
So when you're out playing hide and seek and your friend is behind a hill, are you educated enough to understand that you can't see him until you get to the top of that hill?
00:53:48.110 --> 00:53:48.430
Yeah.
00:53:48.670 --> 00:53:48.990
All right.
00:53:49.070 --> 00:53:55.630
So stop saying you're not educated enough to understand that if something is behind the curvature that you that you wouldn't see it.
00:53:55.789 --> 00:53:56.910
You wouldn't see it.
00:53:57.150 --> 00:54:02.830
Well, let me just say, for someone like me, I spend a lot of time understanding a subject.
00:54:02.910 --> 00:54:04.590
Things don't just come naturally to me.
00:54:04.670 --> 00:54:07.710
For me to learn a language, it takes a very long time.
00:54:08.110 --> 00:54:09.309
I can see that.
00:54:09.870 --> 00:54:10.750
Thanks.
00:54:10.990 --> 00:54:12.510
And I and I thought you were a nice guy.
00:54:12.590 --> 00:54:13.710
Now I see you're an asshole.
00:54:14.269 --> 00:54:14.670
It's all right.
00:54:14.750 --> 00:54:15.870
Listen, I think you can handle it.
00:54:15.950 --> 00:54:16.750
That's why I said it.
00:54:16.910 --> 00:54:19.309
No, I that's why I'm totally joking back with you.
00:54:19.630 --> 00:54:19.870
It's fun.
00:54:19.950 --> 00:54:21.550
We're having like I like you.
00:54:21.630 --> 00:54:23.230
You're like, I like you as a person.
00:54:23.309 --> 00:54:23.710
You're fun.
00:54:24.110 --> 00:54:24.910
I like you too.
00:54:25.390 --> 00:54:26.110
Respect.
00:54:27.870 --> 00:54:28.990
I respect you.
00:54:29.230 --> 00:54:37.309
I don't respect all your positions, but as a person, because look, until you just had that thing where you're basically insulting my intelligence, everything was nice until then.
00:54:38.030 --> 00:54:44.430
You don't like my my opinions based on facts, but you stick by yours based on non-supported beliefs.
00:54:44.590 --> 00:54:45.309
It's fascinating.
00:54:45.390 --> 00:54:46.670
You fascinate me.
00:54:46.990 --> 00:54:47.789
Thanks.
00:54:48.110 --> 00:54:57.630
I just feel that I don't know enough to say on the whole, yes, I see how that factors into the model.
00:54:57.789 --> 00:55:09.230
I wish that I could sit here and state to you at this point, if I'm I'm five foot ten, well, look, for all honesty, I'm five, five foot nine and three quarters, but I think at that point it's okay to round up to five ten, right?
00:55:09.470 --> 00:55:09.710
Sure.
00:55:09.789 --> 00:55:32.750
If someone wants to eat my head off, like, oh, you're just making yourself taller, it's like, come on, even if I was five, nine and a half, it's okay to round up because if we use the rules of math there, you round up from 0.5, neither here nor there, but nonetheless, I am not well enough informed to say if I'm standing on a completely level plane at five foot nine and three quarters, I don't know how far it would be until I can no longer see.
00:55:32.910 --> 00:55:33.710
I don't, I don't know.
00:55:34.110 --> 00:55:34.750
Six miles.
00:55:34.910 --> 00:55:37.070
Six five three miles, three miles.
00:55:37.230 --> 00:55:38.670
At five foot nine and three miles.
00:55:38.830 --> 00:55:39.150
Three quarters.
00:55:39.230 --> 00:55:39.470
Three miles.
00:55:39.710 --> 00:55:40.750
Five five and three quarters.
00:55:40.990 --> 00:55:43.230
In three miles, there's six feet of curvature.
00:55:43.470 --> 00:55:46.590
So that I I should only be able to see three miles at that point.
00:55:46.670 --> 00:55:46.990
Is that the same?
00:55:47.070 --> 00:55:58.110
So well, no, you can still so if you're standing next to a perfectly calm lake, frozen lake, whatever, where there's no waves, perfectly clear, and you're you're standing at the edge of the water, your feet are touching the surface of the water.
00:55:58.350 --> 00:56:00.350
There's six feet of curvature in three miles.
00:56:00.430 --> 00:56:06.910
So you so at three miles it would be the point where there would be a line and you would no longer be able to see the surface of the water, right?
00:56:07.150 --> 00:56:08.269
Because it's behind the hill.
00:56:08.430 --> 00:56:13.550
Now, if I put a boat just by beyond that, you'd see the boat, but it's just the very bottom of the boat you wouldn't see.
00:56:13.630 --> 00:56:17.230
And as it goes farther away, it would disappear from the bottom up until it disappears.
00:56:17.309 --> 00:56:18.510
That's what they tell us, right?
00:56:18.750 --> 00:56:22.110
Boats disappearing from the bottom up, a five-year-old can understand.
00:56:22.269 --> 00:56:25.630
But on a flat plane, the same thing happens.
00:56:26.030 --> 00:56:30.910
The problem is we can look across, let's say, Lake Michigan 57 miles.
00:56:31.070 --> 00:56:32.590
I think it's 57 miles.
00:56:32.750 --> 00:56:36.590
Um, and the person looking across, you can see the entire city skyline.
00:56:36.670 --> 00:56:39.470
But the bottom tenth of the building is missing.
00:56:39.630 --> 00:56:42.750
The bottom tenth is missing, and globers go, curvature, curvature.
00:56:42.910 --> 00:56:49.070
When the truth is, the top of the tallest building should be over 100 feet below the curve, but we can see all the buildings.
00:56:49.230 --> 00:56:50.990
They go, refraction, refraction.
00:56:51.309 --> 00:56:54.190
That's because there's a certain weather system that just makes it stop.
00:56:54.269 --> 00:56:57.070
It doesn't make the float in the air, it makes it stop right on the horizon.
00:56:57.150 --> 00:57:05.789
But then we do a time lapse over um 24 hours with different weather comes in and out and temperatures and night and day, and the buildings don't move.
00:57:05.950 --> 00:57:07.070
They just stay there.
00:57:07.230 --> 00:57:08.830
So there is no refraction.
00:57:09.070 --> 00:57:10.750
We can see the entire buildings.
00:57:10.910 --> 00:57:20.190
The bottom is missing due to angular resolution limits of our eyes, due to the marine layer, due to a whole bunch of things, but it's not physical curvature.
00:57:20.430 --> 00:57:24.110
The problem with what I'm just saying is most people just short circuit.
00:57:24.190 --> 00:57:27.070
They're unable to process that information because it's something new.
00:57:27.309 --> 00:57:29.550
They never were taught how to learn.
00:57:29.630 --> 00:57:32.030
They were taught how to memorize and regurgitate.
00:57:32.350 --> 00:57:41.470
Those with a certificate, those with the PhD, those are the ones that are the best at memorizing and repeating what the Rockefellers want them to know.
00:57:43.789 --> 00:57:48.590
Look, still, it's one of those things I don't know enough to say either way.
00:57:48.670 --> 00:57:54.430
But my question for you is why is it that I'm able to question so many things?
00:57:54.830 --> 00:57:57.230
But I I and please correct me if I'm wrong here.
00:57:57.309 --> 00:58:03.070
I think that you think I'm so thoroughly brainwashed that I can't see that the earth is flat.
00:58:03.470 --> 00:58:12.750
But why why is it that that particular topic that I've been so brainwashed by, but yet I'm so good with everything else when it comes to map life.
00:58:12.990 --> 00:58:13.470
I'll tell you why.
00:58:13.550 --> 00:58:22.590
Because because um, I forget the Russian uh guy that said, give me a child till the age of seven, and I'll give you the man for the rest of your life, or something like that.
00:58:22.830 --> 00:58:35.150
Where basically at those early formative years, the base foundations of what you believe are um set in stone for you, and you literally build upon them, and then pulling out that foundation is very difficult.
00:58:35.309 --> 00:58:38.910
For example, let's say a kindergarten class is there, and the teacher brings me in.
00:58:38.990 --> 00:58:40.910
I got a blue suit on, a red tie.
00:58:41.070 --> 00:58:45.150
I'm looking sharp, got a nice haircut, and they say, This is David Weiss.
00:58:45.230 --> 00:58:46.670
He used to be president of the United States.
00:58:46.750 --> 00:58:47.950
And they're like, oh, wow.
00:58:48.269 --> 00:58:49.390
Why are they gonna doubt the teacher?
00:58:49.550 --> 00:58:50.990
Teacher's saying, I look good, right?
00:58:51.070 --> 00:58:55.150
I got a presidential patch on my thing, and uh they meet the president.
00:58:55.309 --> 00:59:04.110
And then um year later, two years, a couple years later, in their social studies book, they're going through the presidents and there's a picture of me, whole chapter of Dave Weiss, president in the book.
00:59:04.269 --> 00:59:05.070
It's in the book.
00:59:05.230 --> 00:59:13.470
And then they see me in a movie uh about the president, and and then they go on their sixth-grade field trip to the White House and they're going down the hallway, and all the pictures of there's my picture.
00:59:13.630 --> 00:59:15.390
Dave Weiss, president, right?
00:59:15.710 --> 00:59:18.830
Later in life, you go to that kid, Dave Weiss was never president.
00:59:18.910 --> 00:59:22.430
The kid will fight you to the death saying, No, I know he was president.
00:59:22.510 --> 00:59:23.789
You're wrong, you're an idiot.
00:59:23.950 --> 00:59:31.550
And because they have all of these base repetition of Dave Weiss's president, Dave Weiss is president, but they were never presented with any facts, right?
00:59:31.950 --> 00:59:34.590
I have homework for you that I really want you to do.
00:59:34.830 --> 00:59:35.710
It's really easy.
00:59:35.789 --> 00:59:39.470
It only takes an hour and 10 minutes, and you don't have to do anything except watch the tube.
00:59:39.789 --> 00:59:42.350
Planetmindcontrol.com.
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Write that down.
00:59:43.309 --> 00:59:44.430
Everyone, write that down.
00:59:44.670 --> 00:59:46.590
Planetmindcontrol.com.
00:59:46.830 --> 00:59:52.430
Jason Kristoff is a professional um person about mind control.
00:59:52.910 --> 00:59:56.910
And by the way, we're all under mind control, including me, right?
00:59:56.990 --> 01:00:02.910
We're all under mind control and we're making decisions that we think we're making our own decisions, but we're not.
01:00:03.070 --> 01:00:04.110
We're under mind control.
01:00:04.510 --> 01:00:06.269
And he exposes how it's done.
01:00:06.430 --> 01:00:12.110
And when you see it, it's like, let's say you love seeing David Blaine and you go to his show every weekend and you're blown away, blown away, blown away.
01:00:12.190 --> 01:00:15.309
And then you come over to my house one day and I show you how he does every trick.
01:00:15.470 --> 01:00:17.230
I just destroy all the tricks.
01:00:17.390 --> 01:00:19.230
Now you're no longer under mind control.
01:00:19.470 --> 01:00:23.230
You go see David Blaine again, you're like, oh man, why didn't I fucking see that?
01:00:23.470 --> 01:00:23.789
Right?
01:00:24.110 --> 01:00:32.750
So planetmindcontrol.com, the most one of the most important videos, movies, documentaries of our life for everyone to watch.
01:00:32.910 --> 01:00:35.150
And then you'll see how you are under mind control.
01:00:35.470 --> 01:00:37.070
So that's how they do it with the globe.
01:00:37.309 --> 01:00:42.030
There's globes in every movie, every news, global network news, there's globes everywhere.
01:00:42.190 --> 01:00:44.510
Those are impressions, impressions, impressions, impressions.
01:00:44.590 --> 01:00:53.870
And then when you get confused about anything, and boy, this life can be confusing, especially in the heliocentric world, your brain freezes and you go into survival mode.
01:00:53.950 --> 01:00:55.309
Now, what is survival mode?
01:00:55.630 --> 01:01:01.390
Survival mode is your brain just refers to what am I most familiar with?
01:01:01.470 --> 01:01:03.150
It doesn't matter the context.
01:01:03.390 --> 01:01:04.430
What have I seen the most?
01:01:04.590 --> 01:01:05.950
Globe, globe, globe, globe, globe.
01:01:06.030 --> 01:01:08.910
There's 50,000 globe images in the back of your head.
01:01:09.150 --> 01:01:19.470
And you're going to go with whatever is most that has the most impressions because you're not dead, and the thing that had the most impressions didn't kill you, therefore it's safe.
01:01:19.630 --> 01:01:21.470
That's your survival method.
01:01:21.789 --> 01:01:31.309
And they, the elite know this, and they program us through commercials and movies and television shows and magazines and internet and everything.
01:01:31.470 --> 01:01:32.990
They're programming us all the time.
01:01:33.070 --> 01:01:38.190
It's it's literally socially engineering us um to act and behave in a certain way.
01:01:38.350 --> 01:01:41.710
There's also the Hegelian dialectic problem reaction solution.
01:01:41.789 --> 01:01:49.630
They create a problem, we react, they offer the solution, which is what they wanted to do in the first place that we would have all objected to, but everyone's gonna scream and beg for it.
01:01:49.789 --> 01:01:52.350
And so we are under mind control.
01:01:52.590 --> 01:01:54.590
You need to break free of it.
01:01:54.830 --> 01:01:56.830
Sorry for the long rant, but thanks for listening.
01:01:56.990 --> 01:01:57.630
Oh, of course.
01:01:57.710 --> 01:01:59.150
I want to hear what you have to say.
01:01:59.390 --> 01:02:07.150
Because while you're sitting there talking, I'm also thinking about all right, look, I get the impressionable part or impressionable aspect of under seven years old.
01:02:07.309 --> 01:02:14.030
And I also hear what you're saying about the constant reinforcement of seeing globe, globe, globe, globe, globe, globe, globe.
01:02:14.269 --> 01:02:17.870
And at the end of the day, I'm just thinking, what fucking difference does it make?
01:02:18.190 --> 01:02:20.510
I am again 99.9%.
01:02:20.910 --> 01:02:21.309
You know what?
01:02:21.390 --> 01:02:23.870
Not even 99% or 9% certain.
01:02:24.030 --> 01:02:26.990
Even in the United States, there wasn't it the church committee?
01:02:27.390 --> 01:02:31.470
Wasn't that the one that talked about MKUltra actually being a real thing back then?
01:02:31.950 --> 01:02:32.190
Right.
01:02:32.350 --> 01:02:33.070
Is that the one?
01:02:33.789 --> 01:02:34.030
Right.
01:02:34.110 --> 01:02:43.710
So yeah, it what it came out through hearings that were facilitated by Congress that was it was the CIA, right, that was doing mind control.
01:02:44.110 --> 01:02:44.510
Yeah.
01:02:44.990 --> 01:02:48.110
This came out, they had mind control programs.
01:02:48.269 --> 01:02:52.430
I'm under no illusion that there isn't a bunch of fuckery going on around.
01:02:52.750 --> 01:02:55.550
But you can break free of it if you see through the illusion.
01:02:55.630 --> 01:03:00.190
If you use your God-given common sense, you don't have to be a subject of any of this stuff.
01:03:00.670 --> 01:03:13.789
Well, here's the thing is I see through the illusion, and I mean it when I say, look, if you were to, or if I went up on that the spaceship tomorrow and saw that the earth is flat, I'd be like, I'm sleeping fine tonight, just like I slept fine last night.
01:03:13.870 --> 01:03:14.830
It makes no difference.
01:03:15.230 --> 01:03:19.070
Did you ever see Allegory, the Plato's allegory of the cave or read the book?
01:03:19.390 --> 01:03:20.350
I haven't.
01:03:20.830 --> 01:03:32.990
So it it's a story about these people that live in a cave, and that's all just a cave, and behind the wall, there's a fire, and there are people have stick figures and they're making shadows on the wall, and the people see the shadows on the wall, and that's their entire world.
01:03:33.150 --> 01:03:38.750
And then one day, one guy gets out of the cave and realizes there's a whole nother world out there, and he tries to tell everyone they're like, What difference does it make?
01:03:38.910 --> 01:03:39.789
I'm very happy right here.
01:03:39.870 --> 01:03:41.390
I I got my figures on the wall.
01:03:42.030 --> 01:03:42.590
There's more.
01:03:43.150 --> 01:03:43.630
There's more.
01:03:44.190 --> 01:03:57.309
But you're you're also talking to someone who is actively involved for over a decade in the exploration of the subconscious, the superconscious, what happens after we die, what happens before we die, what is the nature of reality, what is the nature of time?
01:03:57.470 --> 01:04:05.550
Like I said, I question the narratives, but at the end of the day, I mean, I know that there are things being like, oh, here's what it is like, no, that's a bunch of bullshit.
01:04:05.630 --> 01:04:14.430
I'm also the person who says, yeah, when I'm watching TV and movies, I feel like there's some symbolism in there or some things that are being put like I'm with you.
01:04:14.990 --> 01:04:15.630
Let me ask you a question.
01:04:16.030 --> 01:04:21.950
But why is it this is the the thing that will free me when I'm like, I don't buy everything I'm being fed?
01:04:22.269 --> 01:04:23.150
Do you like to travel?
01:04:24.110 --> 01:04:25.150
When I can, yeah.
01:04:25.550 --> 01:04:25.870
Yeah.
01:04:26.190 --> 01:04:28.910
What which country would you like to go to the most?
01:04:29.870 --> 01:04:30.910
What time of year?
01:04:32.190 --> 01:04:36.030
Whatever it is, why not one of the other 180 continents?
01:04:36.670 --> 01:04:38.350
Wait, what continents?
01:04:38.510 --> 01:04:41.390
Well why wouldn't you want to go to one of the other 180 continents?
01:04:41.950 --> 01:04:43.070
Continents or countries.
01:04:43.470 --> 01:04:44.269
Continents.
01:04:44.910 --> 01:04:47.150
Is that something that has to do with the flat earth market?
01:04:47.470 --> 01:04:50.510
Well, I'm saying on the flat earth, that's very possible.
01:04:50.750 --> 01:04:55.710
I d I believe that there are tons more continents out there.
01:04:56.110 --> 01:05:00.590
I that I believe I don't have any proof of it, but I believe that there are more continents.
01:05:00.750 --> 01:05:02.430
There are other civilizations out there.
01:05:02.590 --> 01:05:04.590
We have we were talking about Antarctica before.
01:05:04.750 --> 01:05:11.470
We have military whistleblowers that say though they were in Antarctica, there's cities of millions of people there that are not allowed to contact us.
01:05:11.630 --> 01:05:12.750
Other civilizations.
01:05:12.910 --> 01:05:14.750
We have It's entirely possible.
01:05:15.309 --> 01:05:21.710
So we have um ships that we've seen in the middle on ship tracking devices in the middle of Antarctica.
01:05:21.789 --> 01:05:25.230
But if you unsplay it, well, they're heading to the outer lands.
01:05:25.309 --> 01:05:25.870
What are they doing?
01:05:26.030 --> 01:05:30.030
Are they trading computer chips, bombs, tuna fish, children?
01:05:30.269 --> 01:05:33.309
I don't know, but there's more, right?
01:05:34.110 --> 01:05:36.030
There's more right here.
01:05:36.269 --> 01:05:41.550
There's we're not running out of oil, we're not running out of clean air, we're not overpopulated.
01:05:41.710 --> 01:05:43.950
All of this stuff is ball religion.
01:05:44.110 --> 01:05:46.670
All of all of the troubles we're having now, right?
01:05:46.910 --> 01:05:50.670
Gas should be$1.50 with just the oil that we have in Alaska, right?
01:05:50.830 --> 01:05:53.309
Gas should be$1.50 for everyone in the United States.
01:05:53.470 --> 01:05:59.150
But it's not because of the people that have us on their ball worshipping worshiping them.
01:05:59.470 --> 01:06:01.789
Yeah, but can't they do that on a flat earth also?
01:06:01.950 --> 01:06:02.030
No.
01:06:03.550 --> 01:06:06.110
They can't because because if you the the what no.
01:06:06.430 --> 01:06:07.710
But Dave, you're on a flat earth.
01:06:08.030 --> 01:06:09.150
Are you in a jail right now?
01:06:09.710 --> 01:06:10.110
What?
01:06:10.269 --> 01:06:12.030
Are you in a jail right now?
01:06:12.430 --> 01:06:14.110
I'm not a physical one.
01:06:14.350 --> 01:06:14.670
Okay.
01:06:14.910 --> 01:06:18.190
Well, we'll first, we are prisoners on the planet.
01:06:18.269 --> 01:06:19.789
It's a prison planet.
01:06:19.950 --> 01:06:21.070
There's more.
01:06:21.470 --> 01:06:21.789
Okay.
01:06:22.030 --> 01:06:26.430
There, there, they have us, they have us as slaves, but we don't see the bars.
01:06:26.670 --> 01:06:33.789
Yeah, but Dave, you let you believe you live on a on a flat earth, yet you're paying more than a dollar fifty per gallon for gas.
01:06:34.110 --> 01:06:35.630
Because of the city, how does that logic track?
01:06:35.950 --> 01:06:39.870
Yeah, no, it tracks perfectly fine because I'm stuck in your ball world.
01:06:40.030 --> 01:06:45.309
If everyone woke up to the truth, if everyone woke up to the truth of oil, everyone check out my ex account.
01:06:45.390 --> 01:06:49.070
Find the post about what's going on with Iran and why we why we attacked.
01:06:49.789 --> 01:06:51.070
Why is it the flat earth?
01:06:51.150 --> 01:06:52.830
Because someone like me, I'm like, it's all fucked.
01:06:53.630 --> 01:06:54.030
It's ice.
01:06:54.430 --> 01:06:55.070
It's all fuckery.
01:06:55.150 --> 01:06:57.950
But why is it limited that is the end all be all?
01:06:58.269 --> 01:06:59.630
The ball is limited.
01:06:59.789 --> 01:07:01.070
We have limited resources.
01:07:01.150 --> 01:07:02.510
We're overpopulated.
01:07:02.670 --> 01:07:04.190
None of that is true.
01:07:04.350 --> 01:07:06.110
We're running out of dinosaur juice.
01:07:06.190 --> 01:07:06.830
None of that is true.
01:07:07.230 --> 01:07:09.950
Are you saying that the flat earth is endless, though?
01:07:10.269 --> 01:07:11.230
It could be.
01:07:11.870 --> 01:07:12.830
It could be.
01:07:20.750 --> 01:07:21.630
A million other continents.
01:07:22.030 --> 01:07:23.630
Look, here it's entirely possible.
01:07:23.789 --> 01:07:24.510
I don't think so.
01:07:24.670 --> 01:07:26.590
But at the end of the day, I'm like, look, Dave, you do you.
01:07:26.910 --> 01:07:28.110
I don't see that hurting anyone.
01:07:28.510 --> 01:07:29.870
You haven't looked, I get it.
01:07:30.030 --> 01:07:30.750
And here's the thing.
01:07:30.830 --> 01:07:34.030
I don't need to speculate what's beyond 60 degrees south to prove the earth is flat.
01:07:34.110 --> 01:07:36.430
It's clearly scientifically proven flat.
01:07:36.750 --> 01:07:42.670
But flat Earth opens up a lot, also lets you understand how supernatural this world is.
01:07:42.830 --> 01:07:47.470
You, you with your past life regressions, you know there's a lot of supernatural stuff going on, right?
01:07:47.630 --> 01:07:48.830
It's absolutely amazing.
01:07:48.990 --> 01:07:59.309
But maybe if you connected to where you really were, what this place is, um, our fake history that we've been all sold and what's going on, maybe you'd be a lot, uh, even a lot better at what you do.
01:07:59.470 --> 01:08:00.350
Maybe.
01:08:01.470 --> 01:08:08.190
Well, I mean, look, when I take someone to do a regression, they take themselves to wherever it may be.
01:08:08.350 --> 01:08:12.590
There has been information that has run contrary to what we've been taught.
01:08:12.910 --> 01:08:20.829
And it's entirely possible it is some kind of projection of their subconscious, or it could be exactly as it's coming forward.
01:08:21.069 --> 01:08:25.069
It is a contradiction to what we've been taught, and what we've been taught is bullshit.
01:08:25.869 --> 01:08:27.710
Do you know how to do blindly just bully?
01:08:27.949 --> 01:08:28.350
No, who's that?
01:08:28.510 --> 01:08:28.829
You know, Dar.
01:08:29.309 --> 01:08:46.590
So he's a guy that does uh OBE, he had a big major OBE experience when he was um 16, and he's become quite the I don't know, what's the word, guru of teaching people how to do out-of-body experiences, and he's incredible and in the stuff that he does.
01:08:46.750 --> 01:08:54.510
But he be long before he ever heard about flat earth, he was traveling out of his body and he didn't understand what the hell he was seeing.
01:08:54.590 --> 01:08:55.630
It just didn't make sense.
01:08:55.789 --> 01:09:00.350
And then he found my work and he's like, holy crap, that's what I was seeing.
01:09:00.590 --> 01:09:04.989
And and he's actually making a documentary that's coming out, it's gonna blow your mind.
01:09:05.229 --> 01:09:14.429
But for him, finding flat earth makes it way better at what he does, which is very similar to what you're doing.
01:09:14.670 --> 01:09:15.949
Maybe it would help you.
01:09:16.109 --> 01:09:23.630
Maybe when people are describing something that can only be on a flat earth, you can understand what they're describing rather than going, oh, this person's just having a delusion.
01:09:23.789 --> 01:09:27.149
Maybe you'd be like, wait a minute, that makes sense, right?
01:09:27.309 --> 01:09:29.389
Do you believe in extraterrestrials?
01:09:29.549 --> 01:09:29.949
Mm-hmm.
01:09:30.109 --> 01:09:30.670
I do.
01:09:30.909 --> 01:09:32.509
Extra means what?
01:09:34.189 --> 01:09:34.590
More.
01:09:34.829 --> 01:09:35.869
More extra more.
01:09:36.109 --> 01:09:36.349
Okay.
01:09:36.590 --> 01:09:38.349
Terrestrial terra land.
01:09:38.829 --> 01:09:39.789
Yeah, from here, yeah.
01:09:39.949 --> 01:09:40.269
Okay.
01:09:40.509 --> 01:09:41.229
More land.
01:09:41.549 --> 01:09:42.429
Where do they come from?
01:09:42.590 --> 01:09:45.229
The outer space beyond Antarctica, not up in the sky.
01:09:45.630 --> 01:09:46.509
Entirely possible.
01:09:46.750 --> 01:09:52.829
So so again, the etymology of the words that we use tells us, they kind of tell us the truth in most cases.
01:09:53.149 --> 01:10:04.189
So again, extraterrestrials coming from just thousands of miles away versus incomprehensible light years, trillions of miles, is insanity.
01:10:04.670 --> 01:10:05.309
It's insanity.
01:10:05.630 --> 01:10:08.909
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
01:10:09.549 --> 01:10:13.869
Are you limited by space and time in your assessment of things?
01:10:14.189 --> 01:10:20.429
So, in in the heliocentric world, you have to fold space and time to get from one end of the universe to the other or just across the galaxy.
01:10:20.509 --> 01:10:22.909
The spaces are so big that they melt your mind.
01:10:22.989 --> 01:10:25.309
The numbers don't even exist, right?
01:10:25.469 --> 01:10:37.389
In in uh in in in um cosmology, they say Michukaku, the number one uh scientist out there, he says that cosmology is off by a factor of 10 to the 120th power.
01:10:37.630 --> 01:10:39.389
That number doesn't even exist.
01:10:39.710 --> 01:10:40.029
Okay?
01:10:40.829 --> 01:10:41.630
What do I mean by that?
01:10:41.789 --> 01:10:43.469
So 10 to the 120th power.
01:10:43.549 --> 01:10:45.389
That's 10 with 120 zeros.
01:10:45.630 --> 01:10:48.670
Let's say they so he says their science is off by that.
01:10:48.989 --> 01:10:54.989
And he says the beginning of his quote is if we're off by a factor of two or 10, that's considered horrible.
01:10:55.389 --> 01:10:58.750
But they're off by a factor of 10 to the 120th power.
01:10:58.909 --> 01:11:03.789
Let's say scientists can make 1 million mistakes every second.
01:11:04.109 --> 01:11:06.509
Just given the benefit of the doubt, right?
01:11:07.149 --> 01:11:11.630
The universe is 13 point something billion years old.
01:11:11.949 --> 01:11:16.750
So if they did a million mistakes every second for 13 and a half billion years, you'd have to multiply.
01:11:16.909 --> 01:11:18.429
What scientists do you think there are?
01:11:18.670 --> 01:11:19.309
No, no, no.
01:11:19.389 --> 01:11:22.989
I'm telling you, the number that they're giving you doesn't exist.
01:11:23.309 --> 01:11:26.349
Because if they made a million-the number they give me for what?
01:11:26.429 --> 01:11:27.149
For distance?
01:11:27.389 --> 01:11:27.869
No, no.
01:11:27.949 --> 01:11:28.590
They're telling us.
01:11:28.750 --> 01:11:29.469
Let me just say it again.
01:11:29.630 --> 01:11:30.829
What the fuck are you talking about right now?
01:11:30.909 --> 01:11:31.630
All right, let me back it up.
01:11:31.710 --> 01:11:32.029
Back it up.
01:11:32.269 --> 01:11:40.109
Mitchio Kaku says that cosmology is off in their estimates by a factor of 10 to the 120th.
01:11:40.509 --> 01:11:41.389
Off by what?
01:11:42.349 --> 01:11:45.869
Off they're they're wrong by a factor of 10 to the 120th.
01:11:46.029 --> 01:11:47.309
Well, but wrong about what?
01:11:47.549 --> 01:11:49.469
They're they're they're wrong about everything.
01:11:49.869 --> 01:11:52.029
But what I'm pointing is that number doesn't exist.
01:11:52.269 --> 01:11:58.750
If you if they made a million mistakes every second for the link for the time of the universe, you have to take that and multiply it by like 10 to the 90th power.
01:11:58.829 --> 01:12:00.989
It's the dumbest crap ever, right?
01:12:01.949 --> 01:12:05.389
What I'm saying is they never taught us about the law of large numbers.
01:12:05.549 --> 01:12:07.389
They don't teach us about sacred geometry.
01:12:07.469 --> 01:12:08.750
They teach us slave math.
01:12:09.229 --> 01:12:12.269
They don't teach us vortex mathematics or sacred geometry.
01:12:12.349 --> 01:12:17.949
They teach us algebra and accounting to work in their corporate slave systems, their jails.
01:12:18.590 --> 01:12:21.469
So it sounds like the scientists are working with their hands tied behind their back then.
01:12:21.710 --> 01:12:23.949
We're all we're all like you people say America's free.
01:12:24.029 --> 01:12:25.630
I'm like, try to leave the country without a passport.
01:12:25.710 --> 01:12:26.109
Go ahead.
01:12:26.269 --> 01:12:26.750
Good luck.
01:12:27.229 --> 01:12:27.630
Right?
01:12:28.109 --> 01:12:32.750
How does that have anything to do with extraterrestrials coming from outside of Earth?
01:12:33.069 --> 01:12:37.389
So what I'm pointing is you believe in extraterrestrials, they make more sense on a flat Earth.
01:12:37.469 --> 01:12:40.750
They make no sense in scientifically impossible heliocentric space.
01:12:41.149 --> 01:12:42.349
Well, why doesn't it make sense?
01:12:42.590 --> 01:12:44.189
I mean, you just told me scientists are wrong.
01:12:44.429 --> 01:12:45.549
You told me scientists are wrong.
01:12:45.630 --> 01:12:45.869
Okay.
01:12:46.189 --> 01:12:48.429
What does that have to do with with beings coming from elsewhere?
01:12:48.989 --> 01:13:03.630
In their guesses in in on what's going on in the cosmos, I'm talking about space is a vacuum, no pressure, adjacent to Earth, which is high pressure, without a barrier, scientifically impossible.
01:13:03.949 --> 01:13:04.750
It's impossible.
01:13:05.149 --> 01:13:06.909
Do you love God or do you hate God?
01:13:07.229 --> 01:13:07.949
Love God.
01:13:08.429 --> 01:13:08.989
Why?
01:13:09.869 --> 01:13:11.710
Because look at the look what he created for us.
01:13:11.789 --> 01:13:12.509
This is amazing.
01:13:12.590 --> 01:13:13.949
It's an amazing place.
01:13:14.590 --> 01:13:16.909
But this prison planet God created for us?
01:13:17.309 --> 01:13:17.549
No.
01:13:18.109 --> 01:13:19.469
Satan created that.
01:13:20.429 --> 01:13:21.469
There was a fall.
01:13:21.630 --> 01:13:23.309
Have you looked into the old world at all?
01:13:24.029 --> 01:13:25.630
Have you discovered any of that yet?
01:13:26.349 --> 01:13:27.389
Wait, the old world?
01:13:27.630 --> 01:13:28.829
What are we talking about specifically?
01:13:29.389 --> 01:13:33.789
We're talking about before the reset, maybe in the mid-1700s.
01:13:34.349 --> 01:13:35.869
Before the 1700s?
01:13:36.189 --> 01:13:36.349
Yeah.
01:13:36.509 --> 01:13:38.349
Like in the early 1700s and before.
01:13:38.509 --> 01:13:42.189
There was a far more historically speaking, what was probably script.
01:13:42.509 --> 01:13:43.549
Is that what you're referring to?
01:13:45.549 --> 01:13:49.949
There was a way more advanced civilization worldwide.
01:13:50.189 --> 01:13:51.949
I am not opposed to that idea at all.
01:13:52.509 --> 01:13:53.309
I think it's entirely possible.
01:13:54.109 --> 01:13:55.149
It's not even an idea.
01:13:56.989 --> 01:13:57.389
It's everywhere.
01:13:58.109 --> 01:14:01.789
I'm sorry to say, I think it's silly to believe that we are the most advanced civilization that's ever listed.
01:14:02.029 --> 01:14:02.189
I agree.
01:14:02.269 --> 01:14:03.630
So we're on the we're on the same page there.
01:14:03.789 --> 01:14:07.389
Everybody, my lunch break, remember that it's on every platform, YouTube.
01:14:07.549 --> 01:14:08.189
My lunch break.
01:14:08.269 --> 01:14:12.109
Watch a couple of those videos, and then you'll understand that our history has been hijacked.
01:14:12.189 --> 01:14:20.989
When you hijack someone's history, you control them with fake money and you put lock them on a ball where there's nothing else to explore, Truman.
01:14:21.069 --> 01:14:24.189
You know, then you have control over these people.
01:14:24.429 --> 01:14:24.670
Right?
01:14:24.829 --> 01:14:28.349
If you play on their ball field, you have to play by their ball field rules.
01:14:28.509 --> 01:14:30.029
I don't want to play on their ball field.
01:14:30.509 --> 01:14:32.509
But can't they control us on a globe?
01:14:32.750 --> 01:14:34.590
They're controlling us on a globe.
01:14:34.750 --> 01:14:36.670
Well, but I thought you live on a flat earth, though.
01:14:36.829 --> 01:14:42.029
I do live on a flat earth, but people believe they live on a globe, and therefore they're here for the other thing.
01:14:42.189 --> 01:14:47.309
I know that you said this before that it's you don't do silly hypotheticals, but for a second, please entertain me.
01:14:47.469 --> 01:14:52.590
For a second, in this hypothetical, again, this is not Dave admitting that the earth is round.
01:14:52.670 --> 01:14:53.549
I need to point that out.
01:14:53.630 --> 01:14:59.549
But if it was for any any reason, could they not control us on a round earth?
01:14:59.949 --> 01:15:02.109
We'd all be dead if we were on a round earth.
01:15:02.349 --> 01:15:08.109
Okay, but if we weren't, could they control like if there were some mechanism in place to keep us alive?
01:15:08.590 --> 01:15:09.389
This is how they control us.
01:15:09.630 --> 01:15:13.069
But why won't you even entertain the idea that we can be controlled on a globe?
01:15:13.389 --> 01:15:18.670
Why can't we are because one, you couldn't if we're on a globe, prove it.
01:15:19.069 --> 01:15:21.869
Okay, in this hypothetical, we're living on a globe.
01:15:22.029 --> 01:15:23.789
Four years ago, you said to me.
01:15:24.269 --> 01:15:26.189
They can control us on a flat Earth.
01:15:26.349 --> 01:15:26.670
Okay?
01:15:27.069 --> 01:15:28.909
Yeah, but my question's about a globe.
01:15:30.109 --> 01:15:31.149
You can't live on a globe.
01:15:31.229 --> 01:15:33.149
And we just say for a second, you could.
01:15:33.549 --> 01:15:34.750
Let's say we live in Narnia.
01:15:34.909 --> 01:15:35.630
Tell me about Narnia.
01:15:35.869 --> 01:15:37.069
Because that's what you're talking about.
01:15:37.149 --> 01:15:38.349
You're talking about Narnia right now.
01:15:38.590 --> 01:15:38.909
It's fine.
01:15:38.989 --> 01:15:41.710
In Narnia if Narnia was a globe, could they control Narnia?
01:15:42.349 --> 01:15:44.269
This is this is a really dumb line of questioning.
01:15:44.429 --> 01:15:44.509
Yeah.
01:15:45.549 --> 01:15:49.549
Last time you brought up Bugs Bunny and you said, could I like kill Bugs Bunny or get in a fight?
01:15:49.630 --> 01:15:54.509
I said, No, I said, what if Warner Brothers, what if Warner Brothers said he's gonna bring you into the closet that brings you into Narnia?
01:15:54.750 --> 01:15:55.630
Would you go?
01:15:56.829 --> 01:15:58.349
I don't know if I would do that.
01:15:58.590 --> 01:15:59.149
Why not?
01:15:59.309 --> 01:16:01.149
He's gonna bring you in and let you go to Narnia.
01:16:01.309 --> 01:16:01.869
Why don't you go?
01:16:02.029 --> 01:16:03.710
Well, because I don't know if I would trust whoever Mr.
01:16:03.789 --> 01:16:04.829
Warner Brothers is.
01:16:05.309 --> 01:16:06.670
Do you believe in Narnia?
01:16:07.469 --> 01:16:10.189
Do you believe there's another world through a closet?
01:16:10.429 --> 01:16:12.109
I believe it's entirely possible.
01:16:12.269 --> 01:16:13.469
I wouldn't put money on it.
01:16:13.630 --> 01:16:15.630
All right, but maybe it's not a now.
01:16:18.670 --> 01:16:25.549
But in my eyes, you're talking about some magical fucking land beyond that's keeping gas prices above 150.
01:16:25.869 --> 01:16:27.229
No, I'm not talking about magical land.
01:16:27.949 --> 01:16:29.710
I remember I remember a time in.
01:16:30.349 --> 01:16:31.469
You're not a deep thinker, Daniel.
01:16:31.549 --> 01:16:32.349
You're not thinking deep at all.
01:16:32.829 --> 01:16:34.750
I'm not talking about any magical place.
01:16:34.989 --> 01:16:45.069
I'm talking about government officials disclosing that there's more oil in Alaska that would power the United States for the next hundred years.
01:16:45.309 --> 01:16:47.389
Okay, why can't that happen on a globe?
01:16:47.710 --> 01:16:48.429
That's all I'm saying.
01:16:48.590 --> 01:16:50.269
Because we're because we're not on a globe.
01:16:50.509 --> 01:16:55.149
But hypothetically speaking, why hypothetically pretend that we're on a globe which doesn't exist?
01:16:55.229 --> 01:16:55.869
There's no way.
01:16:56.109 --> 01:16:58.989
I'm willing to entertain going into a Bugs Bunny cartoon.
01:16:59.149 --> 01:16:59.789
We're gonna have a conversation.
01:17:00.750 --> 01:17:03.869
I can't have this conversation because it's go, it's it's a stupid conversation.
01:17:03.949 --> 01:17:05.389
It's really bad, man.
01:17:05.710 --> 01:17:06.029
Okay.
01:17:06.909 --> 01:17:09.789
On that note, do you want to play the Saturn game?
01:17:10.029 --> 01:17:11.069
What's the Saturn game?
01:17:11.149 --> 01:17:11.469
Tell me.
01:17:11.710 --> 01:17:12.989
You ready for this?
01:17:13.630 --> 01:17:19.469
In this little baggie, I have four periods of time, and I like to maintain the integrity of the game.
01:17:19.549 --> 01:17:21.069
So as you can see, I'm not looking, right?
01:17:21.149 --> 01:17:24.509
No one else can see this right now, but you see that, and I pull my hand out once, right?
01:17:24.590 --> 01:17:26.029
You see that I'm not looking at the bag?
01:17:26.989 --> 01:17:27.309
Two.
01:17:27.630 --> 01:17:36.349
And on this third time, Dave, how have you grown in the last day?
01:17:38.189 --> 01:17:40.269
I've seen more of the other side.
01:17:40.590 --> 01:17:44.349
Not the other side of Flat Earth, the other side of consciousness.
01:17:47.149 --> 01:17:48.429
Oh please, Share.
01:17:49.389 --> 01:17:58.670
I've learned more about how beautiful the other side is and how much more real it is than it than this physical experience we're having here.
01:18:01.229 --> 01:18:02.670
Did you see that yesterday?
01:18:03.149 --> 01:18:15.710
No, in in my in my dreams and the way things are popping into my reality, things that I see, videos that pop up into my feed that are exactly what I was just thinking about, you know, a bunch of stuff.
01:18:15.869 --> 01:18:23.149
And uh I've seen that there are angelic forces here that are always scrambling to try to help us if we allow them.
01:18:23.389 --> 01:18:26.349
And um I see how amazing this place is.
01:18:26.429 --> 01:18:29.069
I get up every day and I'm like, this is the best day ever.
01:18:29.149 --> 01:18:29.949
This is incredible.
01:18:30.109 --> 01:18:31.309
I am so ready to go.
01:18:31.469 --> 01:18:34.509
And uh, I've grown a lot just in the last day.
01:18:34.750 --> 01:18:36.590
I hope everyone can have that experience.
01:18:36.750 --> 01:18:37.869
I think that's beautiful.
01:18:38.109 --> 01:18:39.710
Everybody can have that experience.
01:18:39.949 --> 01:18:42.029
Whether or not it's on a round earth or a flat earth.
01:18:42.269 --> 01:18:42.670
No, no, no.
01:18:42.750 --> 01:18:50.989
On a round earth, you're confused, you're spinning, you don't have your balance, you're confused, and then you go into mind programming and the mind control gets over you.
01:18:51.149 --> 01:18:56.189
On a flat earth, you're stable, you're you're at the center of creation, there's nothing to fear.
01:18:56.349 --> 01:19:00.349
Now your brain can start working, you're no longer in panic survival mode, right?
01:19:00.590 --> 01:19:05.069
You can't live in on a globe, you're always in survival mode.
01:19:05.149 --> 01:19:06.509
An asteroid's gonna take us out.
01:19:06.590 --> 01:19:07.789
We're gonna run out of oil.
01:19:07.949 --> 01:19:10.429
Nuclear bombs, which don't exist, are gonna blow up.
01:19:12.509 --> 01:19:13.949
All of this shit's gonna happen.
01:19:14.109 --> 01:19:17.949
And you're spinning and vortexing through space, which is very unnerving.
01:19:18.109 --> 01:19:19.949
On a flat Earth, we're at the center of creation.
01:19:20.029 --> 01:19:23.549
We're enclosed, there's abundance, God is close.
01:19:24.029 --> 01:19:26.909
I'm not spinning, water's level.
01:19:27.069 --> 01:19:32.750
It's amazing, and now you're not in panic mode anymore, and you can actually function to your highest potential.
01:19:33.309 --> 01:19:34.670
Mind if I ask you one more question?
01:19:35.229 --> 01:19:36.269
That was one more question.
01:19:36.429 --> 01:19:40.349
You have to ask me for two, and then I'll say yes, and you can have one after that.
01:19:40.829 --> 01:19:42.509
Can I give you a cake too?
01:19:42.989 --> 01:19:43.789
A cake?
01:19:44.029 --> 01:19:44.670
Yeah.
01:19:45.469 --> 01:19:46.029
I don't know.
01:19:46.109 --> 01:19:47.069
I was just trying to be cute.
01:19:47.149 --> 01:19:48.670
I forgot who I'm talking to.
01:19:49.149 --> 01:19:50.909
I guess you don't fall for my charm.
01:19:53.149 --> 01:19:57.389
Has there ever been a time in your life that you can remember feeling insignificant?
01:20:00.670 --> 01:20:02.189
Probably as a teenager.
01:20:04.829 --> 01:20:10.349
I was a pretty scrawny teenager and uh you know normal teenage shit.
01:20:10.750 --> 01:20:12.189
But that was part of my experience.
01:20:12.349 --> 01:20:15.149
I didn't I actually needed that to be who I am today.
01:20:16.829 --> 01:20:21.549
Last question, and it's almost a fun game or challenge I want to play with you really quick.
01:20:21.869 --> 01:20:35.149
For anyone for anyone listening right now, I want you to give them some advice on how to not feel insignificant in wherever they find themselves without mentioning flat earth.
01:20:40.349 --> 01:20:45.389
I want you to to research the reality of your existence.
01:20:45.549 --> 01:20:47.549
I want you to go to my lunch break.
01:20:47.630 --> 01:20:59.469
It's not flat earth, my lunch break on YouTube, and I want you to watch his last five videos, and then I what I guarantee will happen is that's all you're gonna watch for the next month because you're gonna try to catch up on all of them.
01:20:59.949 --> 01:21:01.309
That's what I want you to do.
01:21:01.469 --> 01:21:07.710
And I want you to go to my website, you can figure out what it is, because I'm not allowed to say it, and I want you to watch the crash course videos.
01:21:07.949 --> 01:21:08.750
Why can't you say it?
01:21:08.909 --> 01:21:10.909
Because it has the word flat earth in it.
01:21:11.229 --> 01:21:12.829
Oh fuck you, Dave.
01:21:12.989 --> 01:21:14.989
You can semantics.
01:21:15.229 --> 01:21:16.109
For that one, it's okay.
01:21:16.349 --> 01:21:22.670
Flat flat earth flat earthdave.com and um watch the crash course videos.
01:21:22.989 --> 01:21:25.949
And if you really want to dig in, get my app.
01:21:26.029 --> 01:21:26.590
It's the best.
01:21:26.670 --> 01:21:27.309
It's six dollars.
01:21:27.630 --> 01:21:28.590
Please go on.
01:21:28.670 --> 01:21:29.469
No, Dave, pitch it, please.
01:21:30.029 --> 01:21:30.909
It's right on the website.
01:21:30.989 --> 01:21:32.349
It teaches you about flat earth.
01:21:32.429 --> 01:21:44.109
It brings um people have there's a dating, I have a dating feature on it now where you can find other flat earthers near you, and people have gotten married and had babies because my apps, I've brought a lot of people together.
01:21:44.269 --> 01:21:47.869
I've created, I'm responsible for new life on this earth.
01:21:47.949 --> 01:21:48.909
That's pretty amazing.
01:21:49.069 --> 01:21:51.469
That makes me feel pretty significant, right?
01:21:51.789 --> 01:21:55.549
And I do I do the best I can to help everybody that I can.
01:21:56.429 --> 01:21:57.789
What are those birth announcements like?
01:21:57.949 --> 01:21:58.509
I hate nobody.
01:21:58.670 --> 01:21:59.549
What birth announcements?
01:21:59.789 --> 01:22:00.269
What do you mean?
01:22:01.549 --> 01:22:03.869
The flat earthers who come together on your site.
01:22:03.949 --> 01:22:05.630
Like, what do their birth announcements look like?
01:22:05.789 --> 01:22:06.029
I don't know.
01:22:06.109 --> 01:22:07.069
I haven't I haven't seen them.
01:22:07.229 --> 01:22:08.829
Fuck the Glover having a boy.
01:22:09.069 --> 01:22:17.710
I was in Spain at an event just last week, and um, somebody took a picture with me and sent it to their flat earth friend over in whatever country, and they responded back.
01:22:18.029 --> 01:22:22.989
Tell him I met my wife on his app, and we now have two kids, two kids.
01:22:23.229 --> 01:22:26.029
All right, so that's pretty awesome, and that happens all the time.
01:22:26.109 --> 01:22:28.509
There's hundreds or thousands at this point.
01:22:28.590 --> 01:22:30.590
So we named him Dave and Davina.
01:22:30.989 --> 01:22:37.229
I told them, I told them that they have to name their kid Flat Earth Dave, not just Dave, they have to name a Flat Earth Dave, but no one's ever done that.
01:22:39.069 --> 01:22:45.789
Um, it might help them, you know, grow spiritually, you know, like good ass kicking sometimes is necessary as a as a teenager.
01:22:46.189 --> 01:22:54.750
Um, but seek the truth, don't believe anything I say, prove everything, and come up with one scientific globe proof, and I'll give you three bitcoins.
01:22:55.069 --> 01:23:03.630
Which is worth a couple hundred thousand and yeah, right now it's like it's like eighty, a hundred, hundred, two, two hundred and forty thousand right now.
01:23:03.869 --> 01:23:08.590
So here's what I would finish by saying everyone look into the money system of America.
01:23:08.829 --> 01:23:11.069
You want to see some levers of control?
01:23:11.549 --> 01:23:12.989
Look into the money system.
01:23:13.069 --> 01:23:15.309
That's the you're getting to see some real fuckery.
01:23:15.549 --> 01:23:18.109
That's the first thing that got me looking into deceptions.
01:23:18.189 --> 01:23:19.389
I said, what is money?
01:23:19.549 --> 01:23:21.069
And what is the IRS?
01:23:21.229 --> 01:23:22.909
And that's what got me into all of this.
01:23:23.069 --> 01:23:24.349
That was decades ago.
01:23:24.509 --> 01:23:27.229
Watch those, the it still holds up today, Money Masters.
01:23:27.309 --> 01:23:27.710
It's on YouTube.
01:23:27.789 --> 01:23:28.590
Look up money masters.
01:23:28.829 --> 01:23:38.989
I'll just say, even for that one, in our system right now, you look into money, you'll see that there are a bunch of stupid fights going on over something that is just created out of nothing.
01:23:39.149 --> 01:23:41.869
When I say that, I mean like we're we're bitching about this and that.
01:23:41.949 --> 01:23:43.229
It's like, oh no, no, no.
01:23:43.389 --> 01:23:50.189
Those are some real levers of control that are being pulled there and real ways of keeping us enslaved.
01:23:50.429 --> 01:23:54.989
Look into it, look especially into 1913, what went on in 1913, I believe.
01:23:55.069 --> 01:23:55.949
I can't remember the island.
01:23:56.029 --> 01:23:56.909
It was in Georgia, though, right?
01:23:56.989 --> 01:24:00.989
Off the coast of some it was I know the island too.
01:24:01.949 --> 01:24:04.029
It's a J Jekyll's Island or something like that.
01:24:04.349 --> 01:24:05.630
I think yeah, I think yeah, Jekyll.
01:24:05.869 --> 01:24:06.590
I think it was Jekyll Island.
01:24:07.149 --> 01:24:08.029
Jekyll Island, yeah, yeah.
01:24:08.189 --> 01:24:08.429
Yeah.
01:24:08.590 --> 01:24:11.069
But look seriously, everyone, that's one of those look into it.
01:24:11.149 --> 01:24:16.269
And you'll start to see the world in a different way when you see the way that our money system was designed.
01:24:16.429 --> 01:24:17.789
At least our modern money system.
01:24:18.590 --> 01:24:20.909
It's crazy how it really is.
01:24:21.229 --> 01:24:21.469
Yeah.
01:24:21.630 --> 01:24:27.630
So and then you start to see like some institutions that we've been told are government institutions are not fully government.
01:24:27.789 --> 01:24:31.069
There, you know, there's a private partnership going on.
01:24:31.149 --> 01:24:38.909
But nonetheless, I think that that's a good place to start because you start looking at money a lot different and the way that things are going on around us.
01:24:39.149 --> 01:24:45.549
And the most important thing is when when you uh you know, when you get over like boats over the rise and seasons, sunsets, right?
01:24:45.630 --> 01:24:49.869
And you realize all of those work perfectly on a flat earth, some of them even prove flat earth.
01:24:49.949 --> 01:24:52.029
The you throw your hands up and say, well, why would they lie?
01:24:52.109 --> 01:24:52.989
Which is what you say, Daniel.
01:24:53.069 --> 01:24:53.789
Why why the lie?
01:24:53.869 --> 01:24:54.590
What's the what's the point?
01:24:54.670 --> 01:24:55.229
It makes no difference.
01:24:55.309 --> 01:24:57.149
I still have to go to work on Monday, right?
01:24:57.789 --> 01:24:59.469
I can see why they would lie about the money system.
01:24:59.549 --> 01:25:01.710
I would see why they would lie about the pharmaceutical industry.
01:25:01.789 --> 01:25:03.789
I would see why they would lie about energy, you know.
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On my app, on my app on the frequently asked questions page, there's a why the lie section.
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It's my favorite section.
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There's a ton of videos in there.
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Watch those videos and it'll blow your mind.
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Absolutely blow your mind.
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But website, flat earthdave.com, check it out.
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And, you know, if you want to just say, if you want to be like Daniel going, I believe the earth is a globe, even though I don't know why, cool.
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Not so cool.
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But if you want to know the truth, you want to know the truth, take the time, take the effort, use your God-given common sense.
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Well, Dave, thank you for coming on again.
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It's it's a pleasure.
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Like it's I we don't see eye to eye on everything, but it it's always an enjoyable conversation.
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So just thank you again for your time.
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If you find yourself angry at this conversation, ask yourself why you're angry.
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And if you think it's really stupid, come collect your three bitcoins.
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One globe proof.
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Come on.
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Earth is a globe, you can prove it.
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Let's go.
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All right.
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Thanks, Daniel.
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Cheers.