Ep. 166 — Self-Worth Under Pressure (ft. Kristen Leigh Griffiths)

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Hey everyone, welcome back to Timeless Spirituality.
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It is time for another brand new episode, and I have to say, this is probably one of the more meaningful episodes in the history of Timeless Spirituality.
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And here's the reason for it.
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My guest, Kristen, really, really stepped up to the plate.
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And this initially came about because I wanted to have her on my show after she had me on hers.
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And I said, What would you like to talk about?
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And she talked about how she's been on this journey of finding self-worth and really stepping into that self-worth.
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So I thought it was a great topic theme.
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And I just wanted to see where it went.
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And she did a great job because I think she really just showed what it looks like when you have that confidence to embrace that self-worth.
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And her and I talked after the show, and she said, Wow, that that was not an easy interview.
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I said, Well, yeah.
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Yeah.
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But she did a great job.
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And you know, it may sound weird for me to say this or to hear me say this.
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I am really proud of her.
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She just she did a great job.
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She really stepped up.
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So I hope that everyone enjoys this episode and you get to see in real time what it looks like to step into that power and to really embrace that self-worth.
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So, Kristen, you did an amazing job.
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So, everyone go check out her podcast, Clarity to Consciousness.
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And of course, with all that said, if you would like to book a regression with me to discover who went in where you have been throughout time, you could reach me on Instagram at the Past Life Regressionist, or you can go ahead and book my website, the PastLiferegressionist.com.
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And now it's time to begin.
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Kristen, welcome to the show.
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How are you doing today?
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Hi, everybody.
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It is such an honor to be here.
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Thank you so much for having me.
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And I am great.
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Oh, cool.
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Yeah, the easy peasy breezy.
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I'm great.
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So before we jump in, and you know, just in full transparency for the audience, you and I were talking for approximately 11 minutes before we started recording.
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Because it always kind of bugs me when it's like we hop on.
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It's like, oh yeah, we're just seeing each other for the first time.
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Nonetheless, no, we've been talking for 11 minutes.
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And I'll just seem so fake to me and phony.
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So I don't call it out on every episode, but sometimes.
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But nonetheless, something I didn't bring up with you when we were talking for that 11 minutes, but something I'm pretty sure I shared with you months ago when it happened after my episode on your podcast was released.
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I'm pretty sure I told you the story about my friend who reached out to me, right?
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Yes, I was so delighted to hear that story.
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So, for everyone listening right now, my lifelong best friend who knows that I do past life regression and has never really engaged with me on it, even though I mean I gave up a long time ago trying to talk to him about it, which is okay because it's just not everyone's cup of tea.
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But nonetheless, when I was on your podcast, which was released towards the end of 2025, I believe it was in the fall of 2025, and I've been a past life regressionist since 2016, and my buddy saw a clip of me on your podcast, and he ended up listening to the episode.
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And he called me, he was just like, wow, that was just wow.
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And he was just really enthralled by the concept of it and our conversation.
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And I just thought it was so cool that it was like one of those breakthrough moments where I didn't ever think that that would happen, where he would reach out to me, like, I listened to a podcast, and oh my God, this yeah.
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So thank you.
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Thank you for having me on and being that catalyst.
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And it was just a very cool moment for me.
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You're so welcome.
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You know, when you're podcasting and you don't get paid for what we do, or at least I do not.
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I don't I don't think you do you get paid for this?
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No.
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Okay, all right.
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So indirectly I do because people listen, I get clients from it.
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But no, I I don't actually get paid for the podcast.
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Yeah.
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Well, that that's amazing.
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And I think that's worthwhile.
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But you know, a lot of times the currency that we get from doing these is is the people listening, having an impact on people and getting to hear that feedback.
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And so that's what keeps us going.
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And I love that this happened for you because that's that's like my payment.
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I hope you can buy a sandwich with it.
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You know what?
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It gives me an energy to keep going.
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And then I think that and I think that's really important.
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I appreciate that.
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And look, I I totally understand.
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I'm not above the validation of it.
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I'll just say when people reach out to me and and share those stories, it it does help.
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I'm so far from above that at this point.
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I mean, hopefully I can get to the point.
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And look, I don't think there's anything wrong with us saying, oh, it really lights us up when someone gives us some good feedback in some way that the podcast helped them.
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We're only human.
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So thank you for that moment, and I'm glad that it helped you too.
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So thank you for that.
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It was it was a really cool moment for me.
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It's one of those things where it really just it reinforces my belief that sometimes people just aren't ready for it whenever it may be.
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And that was something that used to bother me when I started all this, and I felt very alone and alienated because it's like, why don't you guys want to talk about this?
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And then I realized pretty quickly I couldn't shove it down anyone's throat.
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Mm-hmm.
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But in those following years, you know, in the last decade, I've seen that there have been people who were so closed off to the idea 10 years ago, who over the years have come to me and talked to me about whether it be a spiritual experience I had or thoughts about reincarnation or even we'll say paranormal stuff.
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Because of course, go to the past life guy to talk about, oh yeah, I saw a ghost.
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So yeah, I mean, I'm open to talking about it and I believe in those types of things.
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So I think it's okay that everything will come in due time, and when it does, it does.
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It just sometimes things take a little bit longer.
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So this was just true a big reinforcement of that.
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Yeah.
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When the student is ready, the teacher appears, right?
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I'll toast to that.
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Yeah.
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Water bottle toast.
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So, Kristen, my next question for you is what do you believe in?
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There's there's so many things that I believe in.
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I've I've realized that, and maybe I'm a gullible, but like you could probably tell me most things, and I and I could probably hold it and say, yeah, I that's I could see that being true.
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But I would say recently, something I I've come to believe in is um just the power of authenticity.
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It's something that I'm really trying to, I'm trying to strip away all those masks that we wear and really focus on bringing my true self authentically to every interaction that I have.
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And that gets challenging at work, especially when you're a spiritual girl living in a corporate world.
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But I would say that's that's become a big one for me right now.
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Cool.
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Okay, question is the earth round or flat?
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Oh, um, I've always felt like it was round.
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I'm interested in hearing the theories behind it being flat.
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I never delve, like I've never really delved into what makes people so sure it's flat.
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But in my head, I you know, and I was a big astronomy nerd, like I loved that stuff.
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So I've always believed it was round.
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What do you believe in?
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I mean, I believe it's round.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Then again, I could change my mind, because in my cosmology and you know, my belief system, once I die, I'll leave the body and and go up and then realize, oh, well, you know, it's flat.
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Look at that.
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It is flat.
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You know.
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Oh, he was right.
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Yeah.
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I I'm pretty sure it's round though.
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I'm pretty sure.
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I mean, some people were are really ready to die on that hill.
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So it makes you wonder why.
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Yeah.
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Well, if you want to guess for your podcast, let me know.
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I had someone on here.
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Okay.
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All right, I will.
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Who is Kristen?
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You know, can we can we really be defined?
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That's the question.
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I mean, how do you put a uh expansive soul into a few definitions?
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Um, that that's that's the true question.
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I I am a loving being who is constantly growing and learning and figuring out my purpose here and and how and what my mission is and and and hopefully aligning to it so that when I pass, I I can look back and say, I did it right this time.
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What do you believe your purpose is?
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I think as I'm learning it, I think I'm I'm here to to become a teacher for people.
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And I and um I think it's in some of my birth charts to be a teacher, but I never really resonated with that or coach, but I find that as I'm learning and stepping into my own spiritual gifts, I have information that I want to share with people.
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And so there, by that, me sharing with it, I tech, I guess I am a teacher.
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So I I can't help it.
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It's it's finding me and catching catching up with me no matter how hard I try to outrun that term.
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But it's starting to feel right to me.
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Is that why you start a spiritual podcast?
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah, I think it it ultimately was.
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I I started this podcast.
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So I have a podcast called Clarity to Consciousness.
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This was this is the one that you were a guest on.
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And well, it it started as the message, I actually heard messages in my own mind, start a podcast, start a podcast.
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I was being led there by something or some someone, something.
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And I was kind of like, yeah, maybe, yeah, maybe.
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And, you know, like maybe, maybe if I learn how to do it through my corporate job, I learn how to podcast, then I can maybe do it on my own.
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Because at the start of it, taking on a task that I had never done before and just figuring it out, like it just seemed daunting to me.
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But lo and behold, my boss said, Oh, why don't you start a podcast at our company?
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And I was like, Oh, okay, maybe that's a sign.
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And so I did, and then I learned how to do it through the company on the company's dime.
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And then I was like, okay, I'm gonna translate those skills into my own.
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But the the meaning behind my own personal podcast was because I found spirituality to be the light uh at the end of a tunnel that was dark for me.
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I I went um into some postpartum depression after my son was born.
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And it was a dark time.
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Um, my marriage was falling apart.
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I I was a little bit lost.
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And uh spirituality and the practices that I learned through spirituality, they really were the guiding light that got me through it.
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And uh that led to me finding coaches or mediums or practitioners like yourself who helped show me things to help get me through it.
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And I learned so much in that process from all of these wonderful people that I thought, well, maybe my gift back, maybe my way to give back is to share those individuals with others in hopes that those lessons can be pulled through the podcast and they can they can get something out of it too.
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And that's how it started.
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And now I've realized that I need to start stepping into the teacher seat.
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I need to get out from the classroom seat behind the desk and start getting to the front of the classroom.
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And that's where the self-worth work that I've been doing comes in.
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Well, how does that look different than what you're doing right now?
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Well, um, you know, that's a good question.
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I think a lot of times I think I hid behind the fact that I had a guest on.
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So it's like, well, I'm just sharing the guest, you know, like I, you know, and almost to the point where I felt like I needed to stay quiet and uh just let them tell their story.
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And and and there's a lot of episodes where you won't hear me say much.
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Uh, and and that can be for a lot of reasons, but I think I think now after I've been doing a podcast for a few years, I've started to step into that space of like, I have I have value to share too.
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It's not just these people who get paid to do what they do.
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I've taken the time to learn and grow and be educated.
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And now I have something I have I can share back with people.
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What's the difference between having that in the form of a conversation versus whatever it is you're picturing?
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You know, I don't know.
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I don't think there is.
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I think that's a great question.
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You know, it I think I think it's just a limiting belief that I had to punch down and get through.
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Being a teacher doesn't have to be a chalkboard at the front of a classroom.
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It can be a lot of different things.
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So, I mean, what is it you're envisioning then if it's not through conversation?
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Oh, I mean, I think the challenge I'd have is when you have a guest on, you you let them speak.
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And now what I'm trying to pull forward through I did one solo podcast episode is just allowing myself the airtime to share uninterrupted.
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I can second that for you.
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I don't really do solo episodes.
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I mean, I think I mean my podcast is going on five years right now.
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And I think I've maybe done two solo episodes completely off the cuff.
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And I've done other ones where I've written stuff out.
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Yeah.
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But I get what you're saying also about being the host because I have this mentality that when I bring someone on, time with spirituality, I'm gonna let them talk most of the time.
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I try to look at it as maybe a quarter to a third of the time I'll talk, and the rest of the time we'll not review them, and maybe limit myself to one or two good rants.
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At least in my mind, they're good.
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Because sometimes I just have to amuse myself.
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It keeps me going.
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Yeah.
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But then I get what you're saying because it's with my own mentality behind that.
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When I'm asked to be a guest on someone's episode, I'll just be like, I'll just be chatting so much because I'm like, well, I'm not the one who's in charge of this right now.
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Someone brought me on to hear what I have to say, so I'm just gonna talk, talk, talk, talk, talk.
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And it's a weird line because I often have people say, I like that interview that you did.
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Where I mean I was on someone else's podcast, like, I like what you said.
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And it's this feeling of, okay, does that mean that people want more of me?
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Yeah.
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But then it it's this weird gray area because I'm like, okay, maybe they want to hear more of what I have to say, but I still feel that it's not necessarily right for me to monopolize a conversation if it's on my podcast because I brought someone on to be the guest.
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So am I off base here?
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No, I think I think you're exactly where I am.
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I I totally agree.
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And I still think it's important for the guest to shine.
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I think it's hard, it's just sometimes it's hard to know how much to interject because it can be tough.
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And and I have heard people say who listen, like, I I want to hear from you more.
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I want to understand because part of what they're buying into is when they listen to your show, is you.
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And so like they want to know who you are and what your story is.
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Yeah.
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And I find that that was hard to fit in.
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So how do you think it's gonna look from here on out then?
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Is it gonna be 50-50?
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I mean, in terms of solo episodes and guests, or is it gonna be just more of you talking, more predominantly solo episodes?
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I did one uh solo episode at um, and that was the 40th episode.
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So like one out of 40.
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So I'm gonna try to do like I'm gonna have the I think I'd like to have the ratio be a little more balanced.
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And so maybe like, you know, so if I do a season that's 12 episodes, 10 to 12 episodes, maybe two or three will be solos.
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I that's what I'm thinking about because it's it is hard.
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It is hard to just talk for, you know, 15, 20 minutes by yourself and make sure that it's not just like a ramble and engaging in something people want to hear.
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I I I found that challenging and it could get easier with practice, but I think it can be tricky.
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I mean, you said you've done a couple too, so I don't know.
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How do you feel about them?
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Oh, I agree.
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It's it's very daunting to just I mean, go out there and just speak.
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So I I mean, I feel more comfortable when I write something.
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Yeah.
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But then I also obsess over, I'm sorry, I obsess over the wording of it at that point.
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I'm like, oh, I gotta this or this sentence will be better here, it's gonna flow better, so it's not as off the cuff, which you know, there's nothing inherently wrong with planning it out, but it's also not completely speaking from the heart.
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So I I get how difficult it is.
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And it's been I think I I think I did one of those episodes a year ago.
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And yeah, it was one of the shorter episodes, and then it had been years since I had done one before that.
00:19:36.509 --> 00:19:40.349
So if you're doing two to three a season, more power to you.
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We'll try.
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That's the goal.
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It's like what do you want to share when you do those episodes?
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Ideally, it's something original that I have uh channeled, perhaps.
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Or you're a channeler too.
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Well, I would say I get messages through intuitive writing.
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So I don't know, I don't know if you would call it like a I don't know how you call that.
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Like I don't know if that's considered channeling.
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I don't know what it is exactly, but the messages that I get through intuitive writing, they feel um really powerful sometimes.
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And so that at least I feel like is original from from me to and you know, to whomever I'm listening.
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And I ask for the messages that I get to be powerful enough for others to share.
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And so I'm just I have to trust that.
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What I think is important to me is that I don't, I don't want to be just somebody who regurgitates, you know, like all this other stuff that other people are saying.
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Like I really want to bring my own learnings and and personal experience to what I have to say.
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What do you think channeling is?
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Well, I think it can be seen as a few different ways.
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I mean, some people I've seen channel and and their consciousness kind of just steps out and and they are saying words from another being.
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Uh, and it almost, you know, it almost looks, you know, some people could say that's that's fake.
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Somebody's acting, you know, it's it's really somebody takes on a whole different persona when that happens.
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And that's not what I'm saying happens for me, but I, you know, I I hear a message in my head and I'm and I'm just writing stream of consciousness what I'm hearing.
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And generally that message is incredibly inspiring and and feels like it needs to be shared.
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But I I think people can define it a bunch of different ways.
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Yeah, I'm right there with you.
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I mean, I believe in channelers.
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I also believe that you know, psychosis and mental illness is a real thing too.
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I think some are bona fide and some are completely full of shit.
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Uh I think that some have mastered the craft of self-deception and also deception of the masses.
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Uh but I I do believe in that ability for the rare few for them to step, you know, for their consciousness to step out of the way and something else to come through.
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So I'm right there with you.
00:22:16.189 --> 00:22:27.869
And I think then the question becomes what is ours and what is coming from, let's just say, our, you know, what would be deemed our guides or angels or or other collectives?
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And does anything truly believe to us?
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Do we have any original thoughts of our own?
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Is something speaking through me right now or or whispering in my ear to facilitate this conversation and what I'm saying to you right now, or is it coming straight from me, or is it somewhere in between?
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Is it a combination of all the above?
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I mean, these are the things that I often wonder about.
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I mean, what do you think?
00:22:51.149 --> 00:22:53.789
Yeah, that that's Great question.
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And it's the million-dollar question, I think, because it is hard to distinguish from the two.
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And I think as you're stepping into your intuitive gifts, that's what's been so hard to figure out is like, what's my own thought, or what am I like hearing from guides or my like higher self or or whatnot.
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And how I've boiled it down, well, first of all, if it's negative self-talk, I do not think that that's a supreme being, you know.
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Like, I don't, I don't think that, you know, when I look in the mirror and I think, like, God, like, you know, the real feelings, like, God, I like, I do not feel like I look my best today, or have I put on a few pounds?
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You know, like I don't think any of those things are from my guides.
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But in my uh episode 40, where I talked, where I did my solo episode, the and I called it the worthiness crown, this idea of um, and I think it came from my guides, where, you know, they they said uh self-worth was well, backstory, self-worth was one of um it's a core wound of mine.
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And I was instructed, and when I wake up in the morning and I take my time to meditate and I take time to to center myself to put on an imaginary worthiness crown.
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And and this is not coming from a place of arrogance, because that was my first thought.
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I'm like, no, I can't do that.
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That's like such an arrogant thing to do.
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And then and it was like, well, the passage itself was saying, like, not from a place of arrogance, from a place of of love and love for yourself and put that crown on and and walk tall.
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I mean, the act of wearing a crown, you cannot slouch, it'll fall off.
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Like, so by by even just imagining a crown on your head, it really allows you to walk taller, be more confident, and and give yourself that that queen energy or king energy that I think all of us will benefit from walking around with.
00:24:55.950 --> 00:24:57.230
Did I go on a tangent?
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I forget what the original question was.
00:25:00.669 --> 00:25:07.230
But um, anyway, this is this is where I've ended up in terms of channeling.
00:25:07.629 --> 00:25:22.269
Well, what happens if I were to say to you, I'm receiving a channeled message right now that says you need to do one to two episodes a season that are solo episodes and the rest need to be guest interviews.
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What comes up in you when I say that?
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And I'm receiving that channeled message right now.
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I you know, I believe that messages can come from anybody.
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And and if you told me that, I would say that's a sign that that's something I needed to hear today and probably the direction I should go in.
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I I take it for what it's worth.
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What if I were to say to you, I think you should do one to two instead of You think you should one to two two?
00:25:49.549 --> 00:25:52.990
Well, I'm saying, what if I said I think you should do one to two instead of two to three?
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Does that change it at all?
00:25:54.829 --> 00:26:02.189
If I'm saying that um, no, I honest well, I I think I think that's a good question.
00:26:02.429 --> 00:26:05.789
I think it depends on the source.
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So because you're a podcaster and you have experience in it, I trust your opinion.
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But I think if it came from somebody, well, I mean, I don't know.
00:26:13.869 --> 00:26:14.669
That's not true.
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Because like if it came from somebody who listens to the podcast and they think that they would find value in more solo episodes of me, I would really take that to heart.
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So I don't know.
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I I I guess I if people really felt that and I felt like it was a genuine, honest, good feedback, I would take it into consideration for sure.
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I made that up.
00:26:37.869 --> 00:26:38.189
Okay.
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You're good.
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I'll give you that.
00:26:43.549 --> 00:26:44.189
Yeah.
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I'm sorry.
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I just wanted to see what would happen if if I told you it was a channel message I was receiving.
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I'd be like probably, you're probably right.
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It probably is.
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Like I said, I believe just about anything.
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So yeah, no, I I do have to, no, I I I say that, but I do, you do have to use discernment when people tell you things.
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That's right.
00:27:07.470 --> 00:27:08.429
Uh, you know.
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I'll say you do have to you do have to use discernment.
00:27:13.549 --> 00:27:15.389
I I I don't want to be giving bad advice.
00:27:15.549 --> 00:27:20.829
I I do use discernment when I hear things, and and I'd be lying if I if I said I didn't.
00:27:21.230 --> 00:27:32.669
You know, maybe this is one of my pitfalls because I mean I feel that I'm so strong-willed that if if I don't like what I'm being told, I mean I'll hear it.
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I'm open to hearing anything, but I'm just like, ah, screw that.
00:27:36.990 --> 00:27:37.470
I know better.
00:27:37.629 --> 00:27:43.789
So I mean if if I get a you know, quote unquote channel message, you know, like whatever, you know.
00:27:44.349 --> 00:27:45.549
Oh, yeah, sure.
00:27:46.109 --> 00:27:54.829
But maybe that also works to my detriment that I have such a a bullhead on my shoulders that I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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If you know if it does it, because maybe it's just a matter of my own arrogance and ego, where it's like, I'll take into consideration what's being told to me, but at the end of the day, I'm gonna make my decision.
00:28:04.109 --> 00:28:09.629
So, should I take into account what others think a little more often?
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Or am I doing the right thing by saying, no, that doesn't sit right with me.
00:28:15.789 --> 00:28:17.950
I mean, that's a question I ask myself all the time.
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Where is that line?
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And I mean, because I feel it is one of my strengths to be immovable in that respect.
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Have I you know faltered on that before?
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Sure.
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But nonetheless, I think it's ultimately a strength.
00:28:34.109 --> 00:28:38.829
But I I can also see where it's, you know, maybe I should have lightened up a little bit.
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Maybe I should have taken that advice and listened a little more.
00:28:42.029 --> 00:28:44.109
What comes up when I say that?
00:28:44.429 --> 00:28:44.909
Mm-hmm.
00:28:45.789 --> 00:28:53.549
Well, I I you know, I think we're making like a blanket statement, but like there, there's definitely parameters, right?
00:28:53.710 --> 00:28:59.710
So when I say I'll believe anything, I mean I can hold the wildest, craziest ideas.
00:28:59.869 --> 00:29:08.750
Like if you, if like if you come to me and you say, I think I believe this is true, like who am I to say, no, that's not true?
00:29:09.069 --> 00:29:13.470
You know, because I I think that there's so much that we really don't know.
00:29:13.950 --> 00:29:35.230
But when it comes to your own self-worth and your belief systems about yourself or criticism or content, you know, like trolls, like, you know, those types of things, I think that's really where you have to be careful in in in what, you know, making sure that you adopt a belief system that is serving you, not going against you.
00:29:35.389 --> 00:29:37.389
And I think that's where I draw the line.
00:29:37.710 --> 00:29:37.950
Yeah.
00:29:38.109 --> 00:29:42.990
So it's you're not going against what we would consider to be objective reality.
00:29:43.950 --> 00:29:54.509
Because the example that came up for me when you're bringing that up is if I were to come to you and say, Kristen, water melts at 12 degrees Fahrenheit.
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Okay.
00:29:55.950 --> 00:29:59.069
Or say, or water freezes at 90 degrees Fahrenheit.
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What would you say to that?
00:30:02.349 --> 00:30:05.069
Um, I'd be like, okay.
00:30:05.470 --> 00:30:09.230
I mean, well, I mean, I don't know.
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I think we have enough evidence to show that it doesn't, but there's a reason why you believe that it's true.
00:30:16.349 --> 00:30:19.789
So I'd be interested in hearing your perspective on why you think that.
00:30:20.109 --> 00:30:22.109
Because everything around us is fake.
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It's all this constructed matrix that we live in.
00:30:25.549 --> 00:30:32.349
So when I say that it can freeze at 90 degrees Fahrenheit, it's because we are the creators of our own reality.
00:30:32.429 --> 00:30:34.429
So water will freeze at 90 degrees Fahrenheit.
00:30:34.509 --> 00:30:35.549
What would you say to that?
00:30:35.869 --> 00:30:36.509
Mm-hmm.
00:30:37.470 --> 00:30:40.750
I mean, I would I would say that's great.
00:30:40.829 --> 00:30:44.189
That I'm glad I'm glad that you're so committed to that belief.
00:30:44.349 --> 00:30:44.589
Yeah.
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I yeah, I mean, I guess maybe you're you're at you're like testing me to see like how far I'll go.
00:30:50.509 --> 00:30:54.990
But yeah, that so like in that circumstance, yeah, it wouldn't really resonate with me.
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But I would encourage you to be like, that's great.
00:30:57.149 --> 00:30:59.309
If you're committed to that, have fun.
00:31:00.349 --> 00:31:02.349
You know, you that's your choice.
00:31:02.589 --> 00:31:03.230
Hmm.
00:31:04.589 --> 00:31:08.990
Let's scratch that last guess that I was gonna suggest off that list.
00:31:10.669 --> 00:31:15.710
Do you have some do you have somebody in mind that act that that says those kinds of things?
00:31:16.109 --> 00:31:18.909
Wouldn't surprise me if that one was on their list.
00:31:19.470 --> 00:31:19.950
Yeah.
00:31:20.589 --> 00:31:24.829
I would I would be interested in that circumstance to just understand it a little bit more.
00:31:25.069 --> 00:31:32.429
Though that that may be a scenario where I need to be enrolled a bit before I um I can truly be bought into to something.
00:31:32.589 --> 00:31:35.069
But I do, but there's aspects of that that I believe.
00:31:35.149 --> 00:31:42.990
I think we do have a greater say on our reality than than we than we have originally been taught.
00:31:43.309 --> 00:31:47.069
So um I think to some extent that's something I'm learning too.
00:31:47.309 --> 00:31:51.069
So there's there's aspects of it that that could be true.
00:31:51.950 --> 00:31:55.470
What would happen if someone came on your podcast and made that claim?
00:31:55.789 --> 00:31:56.589
Oh man.
00:31:57.629 --> 00:31:58.509
I don't know.
00:32:00.189 --> 00:32:00.829
I don't know.
00:32:00.909 --> 00:32:10.189
I'd probably just need to listen and and ask a lot of um ask a lot of questions to understand that concept more.
00:32:11.149 --> 00:32:17.230
As a teacher, where do you find or feel that your responsibility would lie when it came to the questioning?
00:32:18.109 --> 00:32:29.069
Um I mean, I think it's important to remind everybody that if something resonates with them, then there's a good chance it's for them.
00:32:29.309 --> 00:32:36.589
But if it doesn't, then there's no reason to listen to it and and and you know get bogged down with it.
00:32:36.750 --> 00:32:47.149
I mean, I think I think it's important to keep an open mind, but not at the expense of getting wrapped around the axle on something that doesn't align with you.
00:32:47.309 --> 00:32:52.990
So I think for me, the teaching there is just just if it resonates with you, great.
00:32:53.149 --> 00:32:55.149
Then it then maybe it is for you.
00:32:55.309 --> 00:33:04.189
Um, I mean, I I have learned recently that what I believe I can't prove scientifically all the time.
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And to some extent, that could be a problem because for people, you know, I work in I work in an environment where you have to scientifically prove everything.
00:33:14.669 --> 00:33:18.029
And so I realize that this can be jarring for some people.
00:33:18.509 --> 00:33:25.869
But I've also learned that some of the things that I believe have really helped me in my outlook in life.
00:33:26.029 --> 00:33:36.509
I but I am a more optimistic, happier, lighter person because I've started to believe that the universe is working for me, not against me, for example.
00:33:36.750 --> 00:33:45.470
And so I think it's just being careful what belief systems you choose and making sure that it's it's serving you.
00:33:45.629 --> 00:33:49.309
Um and if and if you're doing that, then I don't think you can go wrong.
00:33:49.710 --> 00:33:59.389
I guess where I fall on that is if someone were to say to me that the moon is an artificial construct, it's hollow, and it was brought here by aliens.
00:33:59.710 --> 00:34:03.950
I don't know, that they towed it here from somewhere, yeah, or whatnot.
00:34:04.269 --> 00:34:07.710
I'd be like, okay, could be.
00:34:08.269 --> 00:34:24.829
Yeah, I can't at this point in time travel to the moon and stop my feet down to hear if it's hollow or not, or I have no proof that it wasn't towed here from somewhere else or brought here by aliens.
00:34:25.230 --> 00:34:29.070
Do I think that it was probably non-artificial?
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It's probably, it's probably organic.
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Maybe.
00:34:33.070 --> 00:34:38.110
But I'm open to that more because that's not something I can prove.
00:34:38.190 --> 00:34:44.030
And I really have to take, let's just say, the government's word at it right now, or or so on and so forth.
00:34:44.190 --> 00:34:50.990
And also ultimately, that makes no difference in my life at this point, whether or not it's an artificial construct or if it's organic.
00:34:51.150 --> 00:34:56.670
I mean, I think there are many questions I would have if we were to learn that it was an artificial construct.
00:34:56.990 --> 00:35:03.230
Well, when it comes to someone saying water freezes at 90 degrees Fahrenheit, like, show me.
00:35:03.470 --> 00:35:04.990
Show me, show me right now.
00:35:05.390 --> 00:35:05.789
You can prove it.
00:35:05.870 --> 00:35:07.630
If you believe that's something you can prove.
00:35:07.789 --> 00:35:08.830
Yeah, show me, yeah.
00:35:09.070 --> 00:35:13.550
And yeah, it's like, oh, well, you know, it's their belief system, blah, blah, blah.
00:35:13.630 --> 00:35:14.190
All right.
00:35:14.350 --> 00:35:17.789
If you believe that, and that's something we could prove right now, show me.
00:35:18.110 --> 00:35:18.750
Show me.
00:35:18.910 --> 00:35:23.390
If you show me that it can freeze at 90 degrees Fahrenheit, show me.
00:35:24.110 --> 00:35:26.110
So what do you think?
00:35:26.350 --> 00:35:29.870
Am I doing a disservice by challenging them on that?
00:35:30.350 --> 00:35:31.309
No, I don't think so.
00:35:31.470 --> 00:35:34.750
I mean, I think at the very least, it makes for an entertaining listen.
00:35:37.550 --> 00:35:47.550
Um, but I I would, I mean, the the example with the moon being um brought here by aliens and hollow, that's one I've heard before.
00:35:47.789 --> 00:35:48.670
And you're right.
00:35:48.830 --> 00:35:52.110
Like, we we we can't prove it one way or the other.
00:35:52.670 --> 00:35:57.789
But I think being open to the idea isn't a bad thing.
00:35:57.950 --> 00:35:59.230
Like, sure, it could be true.
00:35:59.390 --> 00:36:00.110
I don't know.
00:36:00.430 --> 00:36:02.910
Doesn't hurt me to to be open to the idea.
00:36:03.470 --> 00:36:08.430
And I that that's really more where I I take my my my POV on it.
00:36:08.670 --> 00:36:13.230
I don't I don't feel like it's a hill I need to die on to prove that it's not true.
00:36:13.470 --> 00:36:23.550
But I also I I think it's a cool, like it's a cool concept, the idea that it's hollow in the middle and that the Galactic Federation gathers there and has meetings, like, sure.
00:36:23.950 --> 00:36:29.070
They do like that's what I've you know, I've heard others people talk about that.
00:36:29.150 --> 00:36:31.309
I'm like, it's a pretty cool idea.
00:36:31.550 --> 00:36:37.550
It's certainly more interesting than it being just this solid rock of nothing.
00:36:37.789 --> 00:36:38.990
I mean, that's more boring.
00:36:39.150 --> 00:36:41.789
So for that one, for the Galactic Federation gathering there.
00:36:41.870 --> 00:36:43.870
Am I opposed to the idea of the Galactic Federation?
00:36:44.030 --> 00:36:53.710
No, I think it could be, but I'm thinking the mathematical probability that one of their gathering places or the gathering place would be the moon.
00:36:53.870 --> 00:36:57.070
I'm like, God, that seems slim to none.
00:36:58.430 --> 00:37:06.510
This vast galaxy that we live in in the universe, that Earth's moon would be the gathering place of the that's just one of those things.
00:37:06.590 --> 00:37:10.110
I'm like, okay, all right, lay off the weed buddy.
00:37:10.190 --> 00:37:10.350
Yeah.
00:37:10.750 --> 00:37:13.150
Or let me smoke what you're smoking.
00:37:16.030 --> 00:37:21.309
It's it's interesting, but then again, I can't prove that is not true.
00:37:21.470 --> 00:37:22.030
It could be.
00:37:22.190 --> 00:37:22.430
Yeah.
00:37:22.750 --> 00:37:26.510
Because look, we can't see the dark side of the moon.
00:37:26.750 --> 00:37:31.470
The moon may rotate around the earth, but the moon itself is not rotating.
00:37:31.710 --> 00:37:38.030
So even if I put my telescope in the middle of the desert, I can't see the other side of the moon.
00:37:38.269 --> 00:37:39.789
So could be.
00:37:40.030 --> 00:37:40.590
What do you think?
00:37:40.750 --> 00:37:44.590
I mean, we don't even know what's on the bottom of the ocean, like let alone the other side of the moon.
00:37:44.670 --> 00:37:47.710
And there's there's there's so much we don't know.
00:37:47.950 --> 00:37:55.710
So who are we to say this is definitely not true or or this is definitely true?
00:37:55.870 --> 00:37:58.590
I mean, we don't know what we don't know.
00:37:59.150 --> 00:38:04.750
Uh, and um, my I don't I my ego doesn't make me feel like I need to argue one way or the other.
00:38:04.910 --> 00:38:12.030
I'm just I'm just I can hold any truth, really, uh, you know, within within for the most part, for the most part, within reason.
00:38:12.510 --> 00:38:14.510
Within yeah, I guess within reason.
00:38:14.830 --> 00:38:17.230
Yeah, we draw the line of chemtrails.
00:38:17.470 --> 00:38:18.910
We get, I guess.
00:38:19.470 --> 00:38:22.510
These are all these are all the uh controversial topics.
00:38:22.750 --> 00:38:23.630
You brought them all today.
00:38:23.710 --> 00:38:24.670
Which ones haven't we hit yet?
00:38:24.990 --> 00:38:25.950
Well, I think there's a lot.
00:38:26.269 --> 00:38:30.190
Bigfoot could be could be an interdimensional creature or just something we haven't discovered.
00:38:30.430 --> 00:38:33.309
Like, I'll even say for chemtrails, though.
00:38:33.550 --> 00:38:39.230
I'm one of those people, when I look up in the sky, I see patterns there.
00:38:39.390 --> 00:38:43.150
Now, do I think that it's part of some conspiracy to kill us all?
00:38:43.470 --> 00:38:44.430
I don't know.
00:38:44.670 --> 00:38:46.110
I wouldn't say that.
00:38:46.750 --> 00:38:47.630
I don't know.
00:38:47.950 --> 00:38:50.269
Is it meant to block out the sun?
00:38:50.510 --> 00:38:51.390
I don't know.
00:38:51.950 --> 00:38:56.110
Is it meant to rise the temperatures there?
00:38:56.670 --> 00:38:57.309
I don't know.
00:38:57.870 --> 00:39:00.269
Is it meant as a psy-op?
00:39:00.670 --> 00:39:01.550
I don't know.
00:39:01.870 --> 00:39:10.190
But what I can say is that there are patterns, and to me, patterns are something that can't always be refuted.
00:39:10.430 --> 00:39:15.710
You know, if you look at patterns long and hard enough, you say, okay, I I see a pattern there.
00:39:15.789 --> 00:39:24.430
So that's one of those things still where I will say I don't know, but I I do know that there's something I'm looking at right now.
00:39:24.590 --> 00:39:25.470
I don't know what it is.
00:39:26.350 --> 00:39:28.670
Um yeah, that's it.
00:39:28.910 --> 00:39:30.269
So yeah.
00:39:30.590 --> 00:39:32.269
Yeah, I I think that's fair.
00:39:32.350 --> 00:39:34.350
I mean, and that's and that's your truth.
00:39:34.430 --> 00:39:36.670
And like I think that that's that's fair.
00:39:36.830 --> 00:40:00.990
I think for me, there was a time when when I got a little bit like wrapped around the ass axle on some of these things, and then I just and then I pause and I realize like I'm really wasting a lot of time and brain space thinking about this, and it doesn't necessarily matter whether or not the Galactic Federation like convenes in the middle of the moon or whatever, like like great.
00:40:01.070 --> 00:40:02.750
If it is great, if it's not great.
00:40:02.830 --> 00:40:08.830
But like what's real for me is you know, my life, the lessons I'm learning, how I'm involving as a person.
00:40:09.070 --> 00:40:14.670
And I think for like that's those are the kinds of things that I try to bring in my podcast too.
00:40:14.830 --> 00:40:20.510
Like, what lessons can people take from this that help them improve their lives?
00:40:20.750 --> 00:40:23.150
That's really where I I resonate more.
00:40:23.309 --> 00:40:27.309
And I found that that's probably a better use of my time.
00:40:28.430 --> 00:40:29.390
I agree.
00:40:29.789 --> 00:40:33.550
Because ultimately, what can we do about it?
00:40:34.350 --> 00:40:36.430
Really, what difference does it make in our life?
00:40:36.510 --> 00:40:43.150
Let's just say that the moon is an artificial construct and it's here to somehow control us.
00:40:45.070 --> 00:40:56.350
I can sit and obsess over that, or I can say, Well, I can't move the moon, I can't break the moon, or I can't shatter the moon, so it doesn't have that control.
00:40:56.990 --> 00:41:03.070
So how can I gain the most control over my life and be the best person that I can be?
00:41:03.390 --> 00:41:05.390
I think that's all that I can do.
00:41:05.630 --> 00:41:08.110
All these other things can just be food for thought.
00:41:08.430 --> 00:41:08.830
Yeah.
00:41:09.150 --> 00:41:13.870
I mean, was it Wayne Dyer that says where your focus goes, energy flows?
00:41:14.030 --> 00:41:17.150
So where do you want your where do you want your focus going?
00:41:17.309 --> 00:41:18.830
Where do you want your energy flowing?
00:41:18.990 --> 00:41:29.150
Because if it's not, if it's not like coming back and helping fuel your life, then then maybe it's an energy suck and uh not worth your time.
00:41:29.550 --> 00:41:40.030
So if someone was just about to embark on, let's just say, their journey of self-worth and reclaiming their self-worth or gaining their self-worth, what would be your first suggestion for them?
00:41:41.070 --> 00:41:43.710
Oh, that's a that's a great question.
00:41:45.630 --> 00:41:49.309
I'm gonna take some I'm gonna I'm gonna take a second to think about it.
00:41:51.070 --> 00:41:59.550
The first step is being really clear and understanding where where the pain is.
00:41:59.789 --> 00:42:01.630
Where is the pain coming from?
00:42:02.430 --> 00:42:14.830
And and looking at it and really trying to dig into where what the source is and really shed light on that and start to offer yourself some healing there.
00:42:14.910 --> 00:42:29.070
Because I think that if we are over, if we are just trying to put band-aids on these wounds and never letting them heal, we will never truly get to a place of peace within ourselves and and see the value that we can bring.
00:42:29.230 --> 00:42:41.870
So I I would say the first step is taking a look at yourself and understanding where is the pain coming from, and seeing that that's an important step to sit with and feel.
00:42:42.030 --> 00:42:44.910
Sometimes you have to just feel it to release it.
00:42:45.470 --> 00:42:55.630
That energy gets trapped inside and looking at it and feeling it and and letting that release happen so that you can you can mend that space in your in yourself.
00:42:56.430 --> 00:42:57.630
How's it felt for you?
00:42:58.750 --> 00:43:12.830
Um it's been it's been really cathartic to even realize that um I had a self-worth wound, you know.
00:43:13.070 --> 00:43:21.309
Um I think sometimes you don't even know your behavior, like what's driving the behaviors that you had.
00:43:21.550 --> 00:43:34.670
I I um I've realized that part of the issue with me doing solo episodes was that I didn't want to take up too much space.
00:43:35.150 --> 00:43:37.710
I have an issue taking up space.
00:43:37.950 --> 00:43:40.350
That that is something that I've started to notice.
00:43:40.430 --> 00:43:48.590
And I don't think it until I realized that I had a self issue with self-worth, I don't know that I would have realized that I had an issue taking up space.
00:43:48.830 --> 00:43:58.110
And I think a lot of that stems from I grew up with um a father who's has a narcissistic personality.
00:43:58.269 --> 00:44:01.150
And so he would always need to be the biggest person in the room.
00:44:01.309 --> 00:44:07.150
And me as an as an empathetic person, I felt that.
00:44:07.309 --> 00:44:09.630
And so I made myself small.
00:44:09.870 --> 00:44:12.830
And that became a way of life for me.
00:44:12.990 --> 00:44:33.070
And I didn't even know I was doing it until I started needing to speak in front of rooms and my for my career or speak on for my podcasts, and and you know, realizing that I I never even felt worthy enough to have a solo episode on a platform that I was investing in.
00:44:33.150 --> 00:44:35.390
I'm like spending money on this.
00:44:35.630 --> 00:44:38.110
And I'm just like, I'm just gonna serve other people.
00:44:38.269 --> 00:44:41.230
Aren't I aren't I just like the most generous, wonderful person?
00:44:41.390 --> 00:44:42.830
No, that's that's not it.
00:44:43.070 --> 00:44:49.150
It is it, but also it's because I didn't feel worthy enough to take up the space on my own platform.
00:44:49.550 --> 00:44:52.830
And so for me, that uncovering of the wound.
00:44:53.789 --> 00:44:57.150
Has really helped me see, you know, the trees from the forest.
00:44:58.510 --> 00:45:01.309
Why are you worthy to take up space on your own platform?
00:45:02.590 --> 00:45:03.070
Wow.
00:45:03.230 --> 00:45:05.070
That is a tough question.
00:45:06.030 --> 00:45:13.870
Um I think if you don't have self-love, that's really difficult to answer.
00:45:14.590 --> 00:45:29.550
But what comes to me is I've learned that I have value and I've learned that I have worth and I have stories that I can tell that may benefit others.
00:45:29.870 --> 00:45:39.630
And if I take the time to figure out what I've learned and write it down so that I know it, so that I can share it with others, there's value in that.
00:45:39.789 --> 00:45:49.630
And so I'm starting to see the value in what my experiences have been such that I can share it with others in hopes that they they can take the shortcut.
00:45:49.950 --> 00:45:52.350
They don't have to go through the challenging learning part.
00:45:52.510 --> 00:45:56.350
They can just listen to the lesson and maybe get something from it.
00:45:56.910 --> 00:45:58.910
Yeah, but who the hell are you?
00:46:02.110 --> 00:46:03.150
Oh man.
00:46:03.390 --> 00:46:07.630
You're really, you're really pushing, you're really pushing, you're really pushing it.
00:46:08.110 --> 00:46:08.990
You know what?
00:46:09.390 --> 00:46:16.510
I I going back to what I said before, I am somebody who has learned a lot of lessons in my life.
00:46:16.990 --> 00:46:20.110
And others may benefit from them.
00:46:20.590 --> 00:46:29.710
And so if you stumble upon my channel or my podcast and you hear something that resonates with you, then that means it was for you.
00:46:29.950 --> 00:46:32.110
And I have to trust that that's true.
00:46:32.430 --> 00:46:34.990
Do you want to know why I think you're worthy of it?
00:46:35.470 --> 00:46:35.870
Why?
00:46:36.030 --> 00:46:37.950
Why do you think you're why do you think so?
00:46:38.190 --> 00:46:40.590
Because you're not claiming to be anything that you're not.
00:46:41.070 --> 00:46:42.430
Oh, thank you.
00:46:42.750 --> 00:46:43.230
That's true.
00:46:43.470 --> 00:46:46.350
I think you're just owning who you are in your experience.
00:46:47.070 --> 00:46:49.630
And you're just saying, here's who I am.
00:46:50.030 --> 00:46:51.150
I just want to help.
00:46:51.230 --> 00:46:52.670
And here's what I have to offer.
00:46:52.990 --> 00:46:55.070
That's what I think makes you worthy of it.
00:46:55.710 --> 00:46:58.110
Do I care that you work in corporate America?
00:46:58.750 --> 00:46:59.070
No.
00:47:00.670 --> 00:47:01.470
Whatever.
00:47:01.789 --> 00:47:04.030
Because you're not claiming to be anything you're not.
00:47:04.190 --> 00:47:06.670
I think that that's the most important thing when it comes to all this.
00:47:06.750 --> 00:47:10.190
You're just being authentic about who you are and where you are in your journey.
00:47:10.510 --> 00:47:11.150
Yeah.
00:47:11.950 --> 00:47:26.670
I think that's what's important about that's that was one of the things that resonated with me about spirituality versus, you know, some religions, is that through spiritual practices, I've learned that you can have your own connection to the creator.
00:47:26.830 --> 00:47:30.110
You don't need to have it channeled through somebody else.
00:47:30.269 --> 00:47:38.350
And I think that that's so important is that, you know, I'm I'm I'm here just to show you what I did so you can learn for it for yourself.
00:47:38.590 --> 00:47:41.550
And that's really why it resonated with me so much.
00:47:41.870 --> 00:47:50.670
So before we jump into the Saturn game, how has it felt for me to we'll just say playfully challenge you today on today's episode?
00:47:51.070 --> 00:47:52.590
Ooh, yeah.
00:47:52.910 --> 00:47:54.910
It was it's it was tough.
00:47:55.230 --> 00:48:03.070
You are definitely, you were definitely like poking, poking me in some places that made me uncomfortable, for sure.
00:48:04.910 --> 00:48:09.470
Like, like, oh, like this, this is gonna be tough for me to answer.
00:48:09.550 --> 00:48:13.230
Am I gonna listen to this back and be like, I wish I wouldn't have said that.
00:48:13.390 --> 00:48:13.950
I don't know.
00:48:14.269 --> 00:48:17.630
I feel that way about every episode I do an interview I do though.
00:48:17.950 --> 00:48:19.150
It's so hard.
00:48:19.390 --> 00:48:20.750
Yeah, it's been challenging.
00:48:20.910 --> 00:48:25.870
It's it's pushed me because usually I'm in the I'm in the seat asking the tough questions.
00:48:26.110 --> 00:48:29.550
So yeah, you you've definitely challenged me today.
00:48:29.870 --> 00:48:34.110
But you've also stood true to who you are, and that's what I appreciate.
00:48:34.830 --> 00:48:39.710
And yeah, I I think that I mean, I've I've brought this up on the show before.
00:48:39.870 --> 00:48:42.910
In writing, there is a rule of show me, don't tell me.
00:48:44.750 --> 00:48:50.030
And uh for the audience, I'm sure that they've seen what I've seen.
00:48:50.670 --> 00:48:53.230
You've shown that you're demonstrating the self-worth.
00:48:53.309 --> 00:48:56.030
You haven't just told me, oh, this is self-worth, this is that.
00:48:56.190 --> 00:48:57.550
Like you've stood true.
00:48:58.190 --> 00:49:02.350
Even when I've poked and challenged, you haven't backed off.
00:49:03.390 --> 00:49:11.470
Now, do I think we have opposing views on when it comes to what can be objective, even if this matrix or universe is a construct?
00:49:11.630 --> 00:49:13.789
Sure, we have different ways of looking at that.
00:49:14.510 --> 00:49:16.990
But I don't think you've said anything to appease me.
00:49:17.390 --> 00:49:20.269
I think it's just been this is who I am.
00:49:20.430 --> 00:49:22.510
And to me, that's a demonstration of self-worth.
00:49:22.670 --> 00:49:33.950
So I hope that that's the ultimate yay, I guess you could say, is that it's like you've shown what it looks like to demonstrate that self-worth instead of just like, I'm gonna come out here and tell you about it.
00:49:34.430 --> 00:49:35.070
Right.
00:49:35.789 --> 00:49:39.789
Well, you have to go through the process in order to get here.
00:49:40.030 --> 00:49:51.550
Um, otherwise, I probably would be like, yeah, just a nice like chat GPT written survey or uh essay on self-worth.
00:49:51.789 --> 00:49:53.309
That's probably what I would say.
00:49:53.470 --> 00:50:01.230
But um, when you do the work and you actually have to work through it yourself, you like you hopefully have some more insightful answers.
00:50:01.630 --> 00:50:02.670
I'm trying anyway.
00:50:02.910 --> 00:50:03.789
Okay, I I lied.
00:50:03.870 --> 00:50:06.190
There's one more question before we get to the Saturn game.
00:50:06.350 --> 00:50:08.269
Uh wait, why are you saying the Saturn game?
00:50:08.430 --> 00:50:08.750
You'll see.
00:50:08.830 --> 00:50:09.550
It's the Saturn game.
00:50:09.630 --> 00:50:10.430
It's a fun game.
00:50:10.670 --> 00:50:12.030
Everyone loves the Saturn game.
00:50:12.510 --> 00:50:12.830
Okay.
00:50:13.390 --> 00:50:14.269
Do they?
00:50:14.510 --> 00:50:15.390
I think they do.
00:50:16.269 --> 00:50:18.430
I'm kind of like you're you're definitely tough.
00:50:18.510 --> 00:50:21.390
Like, like I'm gonna like this was not an easy interview for sure.
00:50:21.630 --> 00:50:22.430
You did well.
00:50:24.910 --> 00:50:27.309
Why should someone come listen to your podcast?
00:50:28.110 --> 00:50:29.309
Clarity to consciousness.
00:50:29.630 --> 00:50:31.390
Thank you, thank you for asking.
00:50:32.510 --> 00:50:37.390
I find that curiosity, this is my belief.
00:50:37.789 --> 00:50:39.309
Okay, my belief.
00:50:39.630 --> 00:50:45.630
But I find that curiosity is a huge indicator that there is something there for you.
00:50:46.590 --> 00:50:55.150
So if you come and if you if you're interested in spirituality, I I created this podcast for people who have a piqued interest in spirituality.
00:50:55.309 --> 00:51:02.190
I find that my podcast is like a sampler platter of spiritual topics that may interest you.
00:51:02.350 --> 00:51:07.550
And if and if you are curious about something, then I think there's something there for you.
00:51:07.710 --> 00:51:10.350
That's what's been true for me.
00:51:10.750 --> 00:51:14.590
And so I offer an open space.
00:51:14.830 --> 00:51:21.870
I try to be judgment free and and really allow people to come in and experience it in a safe way.
00:51:23.230 --> 00:51:29.950
And to your point that you said earlier, that was a sign for me that maybe I'm onto something.
00:51:30.190 --> 00:51:34.269
You said that when you started opening yourself up to this, you felt really alone.
00:51:34.990 --> 00:51:48.670
And I think a lot of people may feel this way because when you talk about things that aren't common that may look, you know, make, may make people look at you like you have like 16 heads and you're losing your mind.
00:51:48.910 --> 00:51:55.150
I think sometimes it's nice to know you have a safe space to air some of those things, thoughts, feelings that you have.
00:51:55.309 --> 00:52:07.150
And so I also hope that I create a place and a platform where people feel comfortable to come and experience it and lean into their curiosities where otherwise they may not have felt safe to.
00:52:07.710 --> 00:52:12.830
Look, I'll even say as a guest on your podcast, it was one of the more enjoyable appearances for me.
00:52:12.990 --> 00:52:20.350
There was just something that was fun about I felt your questions were insightful and that it was just it was a good interview.
00:52:20.590 --> 00:52:26.030
So I mean, I can just personally attest to that as a guest that I enjoyed it and it was fun.
00:52:26.269 --> 00:52:32.830
And yeah, that this you know, that's what I can uh testify to.
00:52:33.150 --> 00:52:34.030
Thanks, man.
00:52:34.190 --> 00:52:34.910
I appreciate it.
00:52:35.070 --> 00:52:35.789
I appreciate it.
00:52:35.870 --> 00:52:36.990
That that means a lot to me.
00:52:37.070 --> 00:52:39.150
I mean, that's what I hope to create for people.
00:52:39.309 --> 00:52:40.110
So that's awesome.
00:52:40.350 --> 00:52:43.870
You want to know who's not getting an invite back to clarity of consciousness?
00:52:47.870 --> 00:52:53.870
No, I'm I'm gonna invite you back, but this time I'm gonna like questions.
00:52:54.030 --> 00:52:55.710
I'm gonna put you through the ringer, man.
00:52:56.190 --> 00:52:56.350
Okay.
00:52:57.150 --> 00:53:01.230
Hey, that's the thing is if I'm an addition, I better be ready to take it.
00:53:01.710 --> 00:53:04.110
I really want to have fun with people.
00:53:04.269 --> 00:53:07.150
Like, this is not meant to be like a hard thing at all.
00:53:07.230 --> 00:53:10.910
So yeah, I want to, I wanna, I wanna put you through the ringer, but that's cool.
00:53:11.150 --> 00:53:11.309
Okay.
00:53:11.710 --> 00:53:13.550
In a in a way that's fun, of course.
00:53:13.870 --> 00:53:15.230
Oh, I could have done more.
00:53:16.990 --> 00:53:20.430
All right, so with that, are you ready for the Saturn game?
00:53:20.670 --> 00:53:21.470
Uh, you know what?
00:53:21.630 --> 00:53:22.510
Bring it, bring it on.
00:53:22.750 --> 00:53:24.990
In this little baggie, I have four periods of time.
00:53:25.150 --> 00:53:30.269
And I'm going to put my hand in three different times because I like to maintain the integrity of the game.
00:53:30.350 --> 00:53:32.030
So as you can see, I'm not looking.
00:53:32.350 --> 00:53:36.030
So you're right, because no one else can see right now, but you see that I just pulled my hand out once.
00:53:36.190 --> 00:53:39.150
So I, you know, I'm maintaining the integrity of the game twice.
00:53:39.390 --> 00:53:46.269
So on this third time, Kristen, how have you grown in the last month?
00:53:47.550 --> 00:53:48.110
Month.
00:53:49.150 --> 00:53:49.550
Right.
00:53:49.789 --> 00:53:52.269
So okay.
00:53:53.550 --> 00:53:59.070
So the last month, um, I have decided to get back out there.
00:53:59.150 --> 00:54:01.710
I'm a sing I'm a single divorced woman.
00:54:01.950 --> 00:54:06.110
I've decided to get back out there and go on dating apps.
00:54:06.430 --> 00:54:09.630
Um, much, much to my dismay.
00:54:09.870 --> 00:54:19.230
No, I I I I should say I just needed to tell the universe that I'm ready to open myself up to meet meet people, right?
00:54:19.870 --> 00:54:44.670
And what I've learned through that process is you really have to be well, you have to trust your intuition about people, you have to be discerning, and you really have to lean into that self-worth because there are people on there that will like drop you so quickly, they just will ghost you so fast.
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And you have to be okay with letting that go and realizing what I've learned is I used to say to myself, am I good enough for him or am I good enough for this person?
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And now the question is, is are they good enough for me?
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And somebody who is not responding is not.
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And so, and so those are the lessons that I'm learning.
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These are my in real time self-worth lessons that I can share with you all today.
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And that's and that's been my last month.
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That's a big month.
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Yeah.
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So, where can everyone reach you?
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So, Clarity to Consciousness Podcast is on all the major podcast platforms and and on YouTube if you want to uh get a visual for myself and my guests.
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Yeah, come come find me on clarity toconsciousness.com or kristenlee griffiths.com.
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It takes you to the same place.
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And something that has come to me recently, if you don't mind me sharing, is I I've been considering opening myself up to being what I'm calling a spiritual Sherpa.
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This is a a new idea that I had that was born from something that you had said just earlier, well, re reinforced by something you had said earlier, is that going through a spiritual awakening and spiritual growth can be a scary process and some people can feel alone.
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And so, what I'd like to offer to people, this is like literally brand new.
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I've never done it before.
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Like throwing it out there to see how it's recepted.
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But if anybody on here is going through this process and they want to not be alone and they could use some Sherpa ing, which is guiding, please reach out to me because I I'd like to help.
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I think Sherpa like the material.
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There's also, I think it can also be used as a term as like a guide.
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It's a like a mountain guide.
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Um, but uh in my set in my sense, it's a spiritual guide to help you go through this process and help people feel like they're not alone.
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Sorry, you said that I'm like, you're gonna give them a jacket that's lying with sheep.
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That's cool though.
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Yeah.
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Check it out, everyone.
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Well, yeah, so email me, please.
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Thank you.
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Kristen at clarity to consciousness.com.
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Thank you for coming on today.
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And yeah, just thank you for having me on last year.
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And I look forward to coming on your podcast again in the future and and you returning the favor.
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So oh, please, yeah.
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The ringer.
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I I hope you will.
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I hope you will.
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And and I really appreciate the time and space and air today.
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Thank you.
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Thank you for letting me stretch uh myself a bit.
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You're very welcome.