Three Point Pod - Jaylen Brown Trade, NBA Trades, World Cup Talk, Olympics Debate!

Bradley Vaughan: Welcome back to another episode of the Three Point Pod. I'm your host, Bradley. With me the crew, the usual Griffin Wade. What up? Young Yerm. Yes, sir. Dylan Allen. Hey, we're back. Another episode. We got no decorations in the background. But just pretend ⁓ there's a signed Tyrese Halliburton jersey right here, a signed Neesmith jersey behind Griffin.
dyl: What's up boys?
Bradley Vaughan: And ⁓ regular Devontae Adams jersey behind Z. They feel about that, Zeke. Your favorite player? Yep.
dyl: That's your fair recie- That's your fair player- ZEET.
Bradley Vaughan: ⁓ him and Jalen Hurts are tied for first. And any particular reason why Devontae Allen's your favorite player? ⁓ just cleanest route running I've ever seen in my life. I just ⁓ ever since on the Packers, I've just loved him. He's my favorite player to watch, really. He has always been a dog. He's still on the Rams, right? Yeah. Who'd they get this offseason to? ⁓ well Yeah. Besides him. They another receiver, didn't they? I think they did, but I can't think of it right now. Let me check that. It was a big one, I thought, too. Puka, Devontae, and somebody. Yeah, they got another good p weapon for Matthew Stafford. That team's gonna be good. They're going all in. They say fuck them picks. I th they I think that they said every first round pick they've had since like twenty twelve is one, either they haven't owned one or it's been traded.
dyl: I got another one. definitely F them pics for sure. Bruh.
Bradley Vaughan: I don't no actually I don't see anybody. Interesting. Might just be ⁓ He's plotting over there. Might just be Garrett. He's getting at a hand. Griffin's cat's sixteen, but Axe about three. It's kind of it's very impressive.
dyl: I'll see you over there.
Bradley Vaughan: But you guys should see this guy. It's all that it's all that ⁓ like Lon John Silvers and KFC grandma used to give It's keeping him alive. Sprite zero. How's he
dyl: You Long John Sue is a part of his diet. He's gonna live forever.
Bradley Vaughan: When's the last time you had Long John Silver still?
dyl: I mean, I could not even tell you. I didn't even know they were still in business.
Bradley Vaughan: Yeah, I that one on Beach Crow is always kidding. ⁓ I haven't been there since probably second grade. Can't say the same. Yeah, last week. Lucky. Nah, not last week. My dad is. Shit. It's probably been fifteen years for me, but I I love it. I I love it though. Long time slovers? Yeah. These are the really good fries and like hush puppies, is that what they're called?
dyl: Bye. Did you for a grip? I'm not saying you keep them in business. That's valid. Okay. Hushpuppies are fire.
Bradley Vaughan: There's a we have a we had a basketball player last year, worked there. I was like, does anybody ever show up or do just like work eight hours and hang out? That's crazy. That's disrespectful. That place their their chicken's actually fire. I'm gonna pass off that one. I mean I I know. I mean I Run me the fish. Like Skyline Chili deal?
dyl: I just can't... I just can't think... Yeah, I don't know. Skyline Chili, ⁓ I had that, what, after Kings Island one day and never touched it again.
Bradley Vaughan: Brother. That's the worst place. Dill. Do I like it? ⁓ you see Griffin there. I got a tram stamp of Skyline Chili.
dyl: Bro, are you liking Griff? ⁓ my goodness dude that messed up my stomach so bad bro
Bradley Vaughan: Damn, I gotta get you trained this off season. I went to I went to Skyline Chili with Griff, his dad and his dad's friend. And you can ask Griff in my face the entire time was just disgusted. Dude, Bradley got like chick they don't even have chicken tenders and somehow they gave him chicken tenders. That was the that was the worst place I've ever been stepped foot in. Dude. I'd I'd be scared to go in there too.
dyl: what of the the food Skyline Chili. Yeah, I'm afraid never eat that again. I agree with that.
Bradley Vaughan: You guys, man, I just gotta get some culture. We Griffin's dad's friend told him they need to make it like the one on US thirty one does. We're in the middle of Cincinnati. We're in the middle of Cincinnati. And he's like, Can you guys s make it like the one in Greenwood does? He says The lady just looks at him like he's an idiot. He's got a he's got a red jersey on, like half buttoned up. He looks like like he's like from the seventies and he's like
dyl: you I'm gonna say he's probably just staring like, what?
Bradley Vaughan: He literally looks like Larry Bird. Yeah. Larry Bird if he never touched the basketball and he's like, Hey, can you tell him to stack it like on a like thirty one? He wants the cheese like stacked, but he wants so much cheese that the lady just looks at him like she's never seen a person like him before. He's like, I don't know, but just stack it. I mean, she brought out the cheese and he's like, ⁓ no, you gotta take that bag and put more on there. It's a great place still. Disgusting.
dyl: you Yes she was, I know she was so confused. That's when I had the first glizzy. I said, yeah, I would never eat this shit again.
Bradley Vaughan: ⁓ man. I gotta Greffin gets a pre ⁓ chili dog to put down before his meal comes. Yeah. I get like I usually get like two two of ⁓ before my chili comes out.
dyl: ⁓ yeah, you're valid there.
Bradley Vaughan: Yeah. What I send you they open downtown, like a freaking skyline chili resort. Well y yeah. Dude they've been like number one in the Midwest for fast food like the last like That's gotta be. Did you see it? ⁓ no, but I hope it doesn't. ⁓ it was like you get chili pizza and chili like things they you they don't even the regular one doesn't even have. Man. Don't that sound good, Dil? Yeah. I sent it to Griff and he thought it was heaven on earth. It's a parade and saturated city, yeah.
dyl: He said that's AI. Just downtown, Edney? ⁓ wow. Yeah, I gotta do the Z, that gotta be AI, you know what I
Bradley Vaughan: I'll send it to you after the pot. That was the most disgusting thing I've ever seen in my It makes me wanna vomit thinking about it. Yeah, speaking of disgusting things, the Celtics traded Jalen Brown for Paul George. That's that's right up there next to Skyline Chili. Yeah, it's that's gotta be something. When that came across my ⁓ phone screen, I didn't believe it. You think it was scams Sharnia instead of sham?
dyl: Yeah, that has to be right there.
Bradley Vaughan: I thought it was that Ballsack Sports is getting here again or something. Dude, they used to get you all the time. It wasn't me. It was Chase. Chase always got hit by it, but not me. ⁓ yeah. Somebody in our group chat used to just
dyl: i've gotten sentailed a few times i sentail i've definitely gotten sentailed a few times i swear it definitely gets you
Bradley Vaughan: ⁓ yeah, I have too. Cintel puts a couple of those real looking ones in there and it gets throws you off sometimes. My girl was getting ball sacked. Who? Why was I getting ball sacked? Ball sack sports. I don't ever know. I've always known if it's not from Shams or Woe not to even believe it. But I think I'm trained 'cause my dad just he believes anything on Facebook.
dyl: That's fucking crazy.
Bradley Vaughan: Like he really thought Aaron Judge was coming to the Reds. That's when I knew. Aaron Judge is coming to Cincinnati, man. He's worth more than the whole franchise. Yankees suck. So do the Reds.
dyl: And there's nothing more funny than the older folks trying to take a grasp of, like, my dad gets AIs so much? Like, this is fucking crazy. Like, bro, did you see this? I'm like, bro, that is fake. Like.
Bradley Vaughan: My my wife's sister got real bad. She's like showing us videos like dogs saving babies from the pool, but it looks so fake. She's like, This is just miraculous. What? Yeah, like that's AI. She's like, What?
dyl: You That's why I like, man, we gotta get you more tux every pops.
Bradley Vaughan: Some of it's like looks really like real though. I like watching I like watching the wild animals go at each other. Who was dude, do you ever watch that ⁓ that one gorilla that was like running through the woods cussing and stuff on the AI videos? Yeah, making jokes. Yeah. He's like I just snorted so much crazy. Yeah. Dude, he was hilarious. This guy put me on him at work. I was fucking dying. Anyway, back back to Jalen Brown and Paul George. ⁓
dyl: Ugh.
Bradley Vaughan: Yeah, they just they think they got their own Brunson upcoming in Pritcher Day, I heard so he did average twenty six a game with that. I don't give a damn. I mean Peyton Britcher is a baller though. I he is cold. Yeah. How do you That is you can't have a Jalen Brunson leap if you look like Bradley. White Clay Thompson. Clay Thompson had one. You have to be like four and white. ⁓
dyl: Yeah, they have to stop that, He's cold. But to say he's going to have a Jalen Brunson leap is insane, He's handing it to light.
Bradley Vaughan: Peyton Purchard is good at basketball. He's very good. He's out he is he is like a top skilled player in the league. That's who was thinking was almost MIP this year. Thirteen to nineteen a game. No. The only way I'm doing that trade is if like Paul George is twenty five, twenty five Jalen Brown is like being such a nuisance, it's just it's
dyl: Are you guys ever doing that trade in any day? Yes, I don't I I didn't get that trade at all.
Bradley Vaughan: If it like got that bad that we don't know about it, then we plan on doing more. If we plan on do
dyl: I'm just trying to figure out what he's doing that's like so bad. I don't get it.
Bradley Vaughan: I mean he has been on stream acting like he's like the greatest player in the world and that's the other reason the skull trees are good. He got picked for streamer university. You can tell you can t yeah. I don't know. He was trying. You can tell by what Tatum posted on a story that those two are not close. ⁓ yeah. But I don't care. Like ⁓ that's what I was telling people. They don't have to get along ⁓ on the I will say I did see that y I sent it to our group chat before I got on here when Jalen
dyl: Did he throw? ⁓ at all.
Bradley Vaughan: Tatum or Jason Tatum's usage is over thirty three percent. The Celtics are seventy nine and nine. Tatum's a top eight player in this league, man. No, Tatum is one of the best like that's my thing. It's like this is always gonna be Jason Tatum's team and he is better than Jalen Brown. So I don't know why people He is Mr. Celtic of those two, but but I feel like Tatum that's the best duo. It was the best duo in the league. So
dyl: about. So can I? And that's true. But can I ask y'all if he comes back? There's a lot of pressure on him this year. So what if he doesn't produce this year? Is that like a fail? Yeah.
Bradley Vaughan: Tatum. I think he's got one I think he's got one year to injury. I feel like there'd be less pressure. They just got rid of their second best player. No. And he's elite. A lot of pressure. Why? Because everybody that's why everybody thinks they moved like they had to choose everyone's like they had to choose one and I don't. I just think it was dumb.
dyl: You think so? I think there's gonna be so much pressure on JT. cuz you see what JB did without him so if he doesn't do bad or better i feel like they might say something
Bradley Vaughan: That's fair. Yeah. That that is fair. But it's crazy the Celtics were still winning games without Jalen Brown. They lost the first round of the playoffs, so exactly. Yeah, that's what people I mean, I do understand like J B was hooping this year, like And really that Celtics team's not bad at all. Like that on paper, it looks like their depth and like getting like actual starting center look better than what they had.
dyl: That's true.
Bradley Vaughan: Hugo Gonzalez But I'm saying like now is like Tatum, like Paul George is a shell of what he used to be, but now you got they got a big man, Mitchell Robinson. Jason Tatum loves playing with somebody to throw lobs to. He threw Robert Williams a billion of ⁓ Pritcher's not bad. Derek White's still there. I mean Mitchell Robinson loaded up on depth. Mitchell Robinson's gonna forever be unplayable. You can't compete for a championship with that team at the moment, I don't think. No. No, I don't think they're gonna compete for a championship, but I still don't think they're a bad team. I still don't think they'll be a top five seed in the East. No, they they win forty five games.
dyl: I think they'll be decent for sure. So is PG the go-to second guy? Okay.
Bradley Vaughan: Yeah. ⁓ yeah. It's gotta be. I bet I bet he pla I bet he plays well there. Paul George.
dyl: ⁓ I love PG's game, but he's just gotten older. Yeah, he's just older.
Bradley Vaughan: I mean that's what I mean a lot of people do. I do hate that he gets shit on because it's so unfair. Like he just looks like a loser right now. Podcast P Pan Pandemic P I seen I seen a video of him from the bubble, like one playoff game, he went like ⁓ like three for twenty? ⁓ my god. Yeah, he had a he has a he's he's so good though like It's so crazy how smooth his game is, but like how
dyl: playoff P. It looked like he was selling games that day too. ⁓ my goodness. That was horrible. It was rough. first.
Bradley Vaughan: Just off he can be. And it never seems like he's gonna be off. Like watching him, he could miss like the last nine shots. I'm like, he's knocking this down for sure. Clank. Like you said, his game is so smooth though. Like I was watching like pre broken leg Paul George and I'm like, this guy's unstoppable. Like Kroger like Kroger peanut butter smooth. Like he was killing everybody. Like put him in the rim. Nobody could guard him. No, his mid range was so nasty.
dyl: you Thanks. He was elite, he was elite. He was very elite.
Bradley Vaughan: Six nine wing, just do it all. It was incredible. But another move we got is LeBron still hasn't made a move. Man, that's a shocker. Hey, we called this one. He was gonna drag it out a little bit. Man. Hey, we are making progress with the Timberwolves and Philly now, so he's going with Cleveland as his running mate just signed a four year two hundred seventy four million dollar contract. I mean
dyl: He's definitely gonna stall. That's insane, bro.
Bradley Vaughan: Is Donovan Mitchell worth sixty eight million dollars a year? How do these teams even have this much money? That's what I'm wondering. Who's paying these guys? Well where does it all come from? Like He's worth it. Like Donovan Mitchell is a perennial all star player. You have to pay him what he wants 'cause if he's gone, you're gone. What is it? Nearly seven million? You gotta pay guys that want to stay in Cleveland. That's the thing. Like you gotta live in Cleveland. ⁓
dyl: Z, I'll be- Bro, that's- that's- I swear, bro, that is insane. That's a fact too.
Bradley Vaughan: The good ones stay. ⁓
dyl: so i'm saying like, dude that last year is like 75 million like dude they're almost at a- they're almost at a hundred million dollar contracts a year that is insane
Bradley Vaughan: Yeah, nothing. My thing is like if he like breaks a leg or something like God forbid, but you're stuck with paying this guy seventy five million dollars in the final year. Did you guys see what Jokic's is gonna be in like twenty twenty si like in ⁓ next year? It's gonna be like eight horses. ⁓ yeah, he's gonna get paid more than that. Half of Serbia. Half of Serbia. He's gonna get paid more than what Serbia's worth. That's what's crazy. Yeah. Is that who who has the biggest contract? D Book, well before
dyl: That's so crazy. Insane, Griff. He's gonna make a lot of money, I thought it was Tatum now, isn't it?
Bradley Vaughan: Yeah, who's got I don't know who has the base contract in the Keybook has been making like fifty military. Zach Le Zach Levine's up there. Dude stop He's making fifty something million a year. That makes me want to hit the Yeah, Paul George Bradley Bills last year's like sixty three million a year. I can't hear that. Isn't that crazy? Dude, I actually just about Who? He need to go home. ⁓
dyl: it fucks p-p-g's up there You They go into the heat, Bradley Beal. ⁓ Okay, they do it. They body out, It's time for him to hang it up. I think they're also got a little life in him.
Bradley Vaughan: They cut him right. He's a free agent, maybe Beale and DeRozan, it's time. ⁓ DeRozan still hoop. DeRozan DeRozan's so DeRozan's so much better than Beale at this point, but DeRozan just don't equal winning basketball, man. At this it's just I mean, he can still give you some production though. Yeah, my yeah. I want to win. I mean if you're if he's your fourth option, you're fine with that. Like if I'm running a fan duel team, yeah. Someone said him and LeBron going to Cleveland.
dyl: Yeah, they said the Lakers is not wanting him at all. Not even on the radar. I said, dang, man.
Bradley Vaughan: ⁓ no. Who does? I I yeah. Do you see who's making the most? so Don Mitchell yearly is gonna be making the most. Who was who was before D Book? Tatum. D Book wasn't even top five. Yeah, Tatum deserved it though. What? D Book wasn't? No. Remember that I thought he Tatum. It's it's Tatum, Jalen Brown, Shea, Jokic, and then Don Mitchell. Like that that's in
dyl: Yeah, okay. Tater. What? Probably that was that was back then, because I think the contracts have gotten more every year. Jaylen Brown. Sheesh.
Bradley Vaughan: Like overall. I mean is J is Jalen Bruns to get more than that? Sixty eight? I mean I it's it's the same thing, like all these like players are just gonna get more what the last person got. Yeah.
dyl: Did you say it? Yeah. Is YoKids, ⁓ you said YoKids on that list?
Bradley Vaughan: Yeah, that's like total not like yearly though. That's like total contract value. Yeah. We think Wimby's about to get paid. that's about to be like seventy five a year. He's gonna be owner. Fifteen years in the Spurs franchise. Yeah. Dude, his is gonna be like five years four hundred million. Stock of the Eiffel Tower and I don't like the Spurs. Donovan Mitchell at sixty eight. Wimby's at least getting seventy eight, right?
dyl: That's crazy. He's up there already and still is up for a whole nother one. 500 million?
Bradley Vaughan: Wimby's getting I think Wimby said like eighty. Wimby may get a eighty million? Is he gonna be the first five hundred million dollar contract player? It's like the Otani, like Wimby's like the Otani. Pat Mahomes. And the Mahomes. Like How does GA not get that?
dyl: There's 80 mil, bro. That's insane. That's crazy, bro. But did y'all see what Koo said? Like the contracts and stuff, how their, the sidecaps is like making everything hard as hell to like make it like to construct the team? Cause it's so top heavy, bro.
Bradley Vaughan: ⁓ yeah, you can't the new the new aprons are yeah. Yeah, it's probably hard to construct a team when Kuzma wants fifty million. That's my thing with that's probably why they moved Jalen Brown for what they did, 'cause like they couldn't pay both of them. Yeah, he tried deni he tried denying it, but like the the new rules like the Thunder right now look good because I don't have to pay everybody, but here soon. Yeah. J J Dub or Chet are leaving. Like if
dyl: You You have to. Yeah, there's no way. They're gonna have to. Facts.
Bradley Vaughan: If they had to pay both those guys, like Gerald Gerald Wallace would have been there starting small forward next year.
dyl: So that's the thing, I just don't feel like it's gonna be the same teams at all anymore. It's gonna be a couple years and you're out.
Bradley Vaughan: ⁓ no, like you're gonna have a s you're gonna have a solidified all star and like a great role player second option. I hate that deal. Like I I Like that's Austin Reeves is gonna have to be your second best player in this new C IBA. ⁓ That roster, man. That that is Yeah, we talk about that. ⁓ buddy. That is terrible.
dyl: This sucks, bro That's tough, My go Kevin Looney, we're legend, baby
Bradley Vaughan: Yeah, they got Kavan Looney, Lakers did. Yeah, but you see they're trying to get Cumingo. Yeah, that too. They're just not gonna be good. Like That's that's forty four wins. No. What you think every team is gonna get forty four wins. It's gonna be pretty even this year, man. There's there's a gonna be a lot of even round records around the league this year. I agree. You watch out for that forty four through forty seven number this year 'cause you're gonna see it a lot. Pacers. I just absolutely they'll be lucky to get forty four.
dyl: Bye for real. It's gonna be a lot of good, I can see that too Griff. There's gonna be lot of good scenes around Edmore.
Bradley Vaughan: The East is low. You can't just sh you can't just circle teams on the map or on the s schedule anymore and say, Yeah, we're we're gonna go out and party with Hart. No no no no you can't. Sacramento, the Nets ⁓ the Nets, That's probably it. Those two teams ⁓ the Pel go might as well circle the Pelicans. I they're so good but you can't win again. I don't know. They beat the good they yeah, I mean if they all play those guys, they'll beat a good team and then they'll I see Sacramento or the Nets on the schedule. I'm not sleeping the night before. We're going out. I'm probably going to Night Owls and playing darts. I mean those two teams are never going to be good. Because now Yeah, Grizzlies are sweet now too. Well I see like especially now that's why I hate the new kind of tanking law. Like the Kings or Nets are never going to get the first pick in this new draft. Where did y'all go? Trailblazers. ⁓ that's so dude. That's cool, man. That's cool.
dyl: The Grizzlies, the Grizzlies out there too. I'm gonna go to sleep.
Bradley Vaughan: That's awesome. That's a sweat. No, no, no, no. Griff loves the Blazers. So the Blazers have always been like my well besides Kobe, you know, when Kobe was on the Lakers and after he left, it's not the same. But the Blazers with Dame, man, that so Dame's back. Got a root on Jaw now. I'm a big I love I love Denny. I love watching Denny play. He's a foul baiter. He's like Luca's evil cousin.
dyl: Is that you being sarcastic or like you love him there? Okay, okay. That's one of my favorite players. Then it's cold.
Bradley Vaughan: One of my favorite players in the league is on the Trailblazers too. Shaden Sharp. Yep. Give me some on that. Best dunker in the league. That guy. ⁓ He's electric. We should trade for him. That'd have been awesome. They ain't gonna give him up now. I feel like they would. I feel like they didn't really like him. Yeah, I mean we're they they're having their Well Chauncey didn't play him 'cause he kept betting on him. Okay. You were wondering why he wasn't playing in the games. I mean he'd like stopped playing like in the playoffs though and
dyl: You
Bradley Vaughan: Obviously Chauncey wasn't there anymore. I don't know what they're gonna do next year. Chiago Splitter, hell of a coach. He's the Bulls coach. Bulls coach, yeah. Yeah. Hmm. Tiago Splitter. Never would have saw that coming as fourteen year olds. I saw Caleb Wilson killing in practice, but that can lead us to ⁓ the summer league. ⁓ D P all but all but advertised. He is killing. We'll see, man.
dyl: Is he bulls? Yeah. I don't know if y'all watched the highlights. He's COVID, bro.
Bradley Vaughan: Yeah, I'd I'd probably get twenty two if I had twenty five shots in summer league, but he had twenty nine on fifteen shots his last game. Yeah, and he had nine six on tw like twenty two shots. Not yet. Fifty percent shooting too. Like I'm a hard He's killing. Yeah, no, this is he's good, but it's literally Kobe. He shoots a bunch of twos, that's why you think he shoots so much. Like and his field goal percentage is still high though. I'm not gonna say Kobe yet, but That's that's what he's gonna be. It's what we call Benedict after year two here. Who
dyl: and 12 assists. He did well. He did well. not gonna lie. His movements and everything bro, he does look valid. I'm not gonna lie.
Bradley Vaughan: Who called Benedict Mathrin Cody? Bradley, you heard it and you've seen it on the That's why I hate that it shouldn't be a thing. ⁓ dude, everybody that lived everybody that lives here that went to Beechgrove, Speedway, you know. These Pacer fans are delusional. Like
dyl: Who said that? ⁓ man. That is delusion. He was so cold to Arizona, but that's delusion. I'm not gonna lie.
Bradley Vaughan: ⁓ trust me, I called it I I nailed it. We were watching Bradley and I were watching Arizona, like on the TV and I like, I want the Pacers to draft this guy. He played so much defense in Arizona and didn't play any when he got to And he never passed he never passed. No. I think he had like three total assists in his three years or ⁓ Pacer fans were ready to not ever trade they would have traded Tyrese before they traded Benedict.
dyl: He did not pass better. He definitely didn't pass the ball. He was about a bucket, that was it.
Bradley Vaughan: I told Bradley right off the bat, like after watching his first five games, I said he does not fit here. I'd probably be shitty moving from Arizona to Indiana too though. I'd much rather live in Arizona. He's what? He's from Canada here. You can't live where you played. Canada's fine. You could live somewhere better than Indiana. You live here. I don't like it. You love your life. I'd rather not. Did you move back to Indie Dill?
dyl: No.
Bradley Vaughan: ⁓ we tried. You never have bad weather there.
dyl: We'll see, man. Nah, it's just the bad weather's rain. I mean, it'd be hot, but other than that, the weather's wonderful.
Bradley Vaughan: I think I think my next move's Dallas. Texas, I heard is an awesome place. My brother lives there. But I got a I got a hypothetical. I know Griffin's probably gonna absolutely hate this one. I'll try not to get a clip out of this. I'll try to stay calm. Let's get a clip out of it. Well as as a as any Pacer fan, would you trade Halliburton for Keontae George and Darren Peterson?
dyl: That's fire. Crash out, griff.
Bradley Vaughan: My answer was absolutely yes. My answer was get the fuck out of my house. Okay. Watch watch them watch them two cook. Watch them two cook this shit. It's a summer league, man, but he is cooking, but I gotta see it. I don't take I don't really take much stock in a summer league. I know who Darren Peterson is and I know who Keontae George is. No, I mean that I'm sorry, you just It wasn't really more it's honestly a great question. I it's pretty even to me. ⁓ as far as basketball wise, you just kinda hurt me when you said that. sorry, sorry I said that. Yeah, I mean sorry. That was mean. As a Pacer fan, I know Hallie's deep in your guys' heart, so I mean the thing is though he's made to the finals, that's why yeah, I say no. You can't you can't do it, Zeke. Like I'm telling you like skill like the even wise, I completely understand. Like two K it gives like a green and a green. But But like you just kill your whole like you kill your whole like franchise and team and your like sit in your fan base. You already sent away Miles Turner, like you it's not like it's gonna be the same. Okay, I was like the only Miles Turner fan. Everybody loves Tyrese. Yeah, but like the culture is already gone anyway from the finals team. What? Like now they're just terrible. Who? Well they'll we we didn't have Tyrese last year. They're not terrible, but they're not as good as everybody thinks. We started sixty two different lineups last year. Yeah. Eighty two games in a year. In yeah, and you only lost one guy. Yeah. We lost a lot of guys. Neesmith was hurt most of the year. Nim Hard was hurt for a while. we didn't have a center all year. No, I think they just weren't trying to play all Haskell was the only player that played consistently all year. I had people telling me Jay Huff was the answer. I'm sorry. There's some guys on freaking I heard it, man.
dyl: I've definitely heard that Griff. Yeah, I heard that a lot. They said that he was gonna begin next. Yup. I was like, yeah. That's... If I got one...
Bradley Vaughan: I heard I I heard we got a cheaper, wider miles. More bald. I mean backup, like as a backup maybe. No, he's a good backup. He led the league in blocks. That's kinda what I always felt like. He no, he he is a really good backup, but like if he's your starter like I would have traded that fifth pick for Zubak every day of week. Yeah, people gotta stop freaking out about this pick. Like see ya Heaton Wagner, he's not gonna fit here. See you we'll see you later. I'm I'm nervous y you know me, I'm nervous about the zoo thing. I'm I'm a little nervous how that big boy's gonna be mo moving.
dyl: I just want to see how it meshes, how y'all play. Cause like how you guys play, I would sort of see how you meshes with that, but I know it's gonna be.
Bradley Vaughan: Hey, it's gonna be great for second choice. I sent the staff today. Tyrese Halburn was one of the best players on pick and roll actions and scoring out of it. And he's one of the best pick he has one of the best screeners in the league. He doesn't play with the one guy that did that phenomenal with him anymore. You know they let Zubac's a great Him and Miles led the league two years in a row. Him and Miles led the league two years in a row in screen points between two players. And Zoo's one of the best screeners in the league still too, though. He can't pop though. I was about to say he's a good screener, but he can't pull a player doing anything. He's got a what? He's got a little push shot. ⁓
dyl: He's decent. Yeah. I'm definitely curious to see what it looks like.
Bradley Vaughan: It works. The thing that's what I'm nervous about is like ty if you put Tyrese with a guy that can backpedal after setting a screen, or he can or he can dash to the rim. Like I understand you're nervous, but I don't see how we take our t two biggest weaknesses and fix them with a player. I mean And they're tall like we're like going to like we couldn't rebound. ⁓ And we couldn't score in the half court. We could score in a half court. No, we couldn't. I don't give a damn. When it came down to the when it came down to it, we still did. No, we didn't. We you don't you don't go up with We turned the ball over in that Thunder series so many times in game six and seven in half court. But deep in the playoffs, you have to be able to score in the half court. How many times did we see Tyree dribble at with a cash because he couldn't get a shot open and we don't have a shot at half court? Because he can't Create 'cause he can't ball handle. I agree. Neesmith looked like me dribbling in like sixth grade sometimes and Tyrese has a loose handle, but the high left to right to rock. He is I feel like he is like the only shot creator. I mean Pascal I guess, but that's not I don't even know if that's shot creating, that's just shooting over people. That's a big circle on this team right now. We gotta start looking at. Yeah, that'll be the next Phil. That's a lot of money. Should've traded him for Zion. I agree.
dyl: Your Pascal.
Bradley Vaughan: I hey, you know what? If Zion turns if he gets healthy, gets here in Indy. If he gets healthy, he's never played a full season. Nah. He just played sixty eight games. For the first time ever. And the rest were thirty, thirty, thirty, thirty. Eighteen. You love injury prone players, man. You love injury prone players. Zion's the most injury prone player in the league. This guy's going into year seven. He's played less games than anybody.
dyl: Man. They are crazy.
Bradley Vaughan: You like AR Not anymore. We got Daniel Jones. That's right. That's right. And we didn't have to trade for AR, we just drafted him. We didn't draft Zion. No, no, no, no, no, no. You don't just get to say we drafted AR like it was in the third or fourth round. You took a generational pick option.
dyl: They said he was the next Cam Newton.
Bradley Vaughan: Yeah, but who was the generational pick? Who else are you gonna pick? Who else was there at that pick? You should have traded for a superstar. You should have traded that pick for a superstar, gave the Texans everything. Who's a superstar? There's things that you can do with that pick other than draft that pick. Yeah, we could think Bijan. ⁓ man. Yeah, him and Jonathan Taylor. I'd be awesome. You never lose. And I'm out there throwing the fucking ball for the Colts. You put same Eilinger out We would have went in the training camp. I would have went to Westfield and f Shane Steiger pointed at me in the crowd, brought me down and put a helmet on and said, Go throw the ball. Hey.
dyl: You
Bradley Vaughan: You put a quarter if J T and Bijan are swapping in and out every other play We run the Monrovia triple option offense. No, I didn't say to take B. John when you have Jonathan Taylor. I I said I said like I'm giving the Texans whatever they want. Me and ⁓ me and my buddy Isaiah talked about that. That offense was lethal. He never knew the ball was at. They have four people in the backfield.
dyl: RSA would have been out there. I was... That was the hardest fucking office to stop. I hated that. Bro. Yeah, I didn't want to cut y'all off, but you just brought up memories. That was hell.
Bradley Vaughan: They're playing that Statue of Liberty play every time. You don't know where the ball's going. Who? Monrovia. They played like a pff like this triple op quadruple option offense and I remember it was the most hard the hardest thing to ever be game plan for. Couldn't figure it out, dude. It was like armies offense. You didn't know what to do.
dyl: Bro. bro literally every day we did in like practice bro it was something new like we would just do that the offense that brad's talking about and we would all have a job you have to do the same thing every time just so we can stop it and they had that big cocky running back for like in like the huddle i'm just on his back trying to try to tackle him bro he's just carrying me down i said yeah i can't keep doing this bro
Bradley Vaughan: ⁓ The thing is like they run that offense from var city football to all the way down to their like second and third graders. That was it, huh? We did their ch we did the chain gang to like we were doing first down things, you know? Yeah, yeah. And literally like their third graders are running to perfection. You can't stop it.
dyl: That's a fact. That's a fact. bro it's so hard to stop especially for you might get a couple stops but you have to stop that look four times in a row that's it's damn it's damn they're unstoppable
Bradley Vaughan: They don't they don't throw the ball. It's just fo it's four different run plays. That's just not even fun. Yeah, and then your twenty sixth plays in the game and then here comes a Hail Mary. See ya later. That's that's like a that's like a basketball team like holding on to the ball. ⁓ yeah. The quarterback won't hold it until like the eighth play, so like the misdirection, the quarterback's fifty yards down the field the other way and you're like I just tack I just tackled three guys, but he done none of them got the ball. There's just no respect.
dyl: Man Yeah. you ⁓ my god, bro. That brought up so many members right there.
Bradley Vaughan: ⁓ man. That's hilarious. Football soon. It is football soon. I can't wait, man. Yeah. We gotta hit some games. Cowboys Colts this year. Cowboys are coming to town. You taking your dad to that? I I hope he's taking me. Maybe it's like a it's like a week after my birthday, so maybe Maybe ⁓ yeah for sure going that. You wanted to last year. I know. We we keep thinking about it, but I gotta see. I gotta see what this defense looks like. I'm not I'm not making that trip to watch a shitty defense again. Caleb Downs, baby. Yeah, it's we got a lot more problems to fix than that. Yeah, good point. Who's your team? ⁓ yeah, the Bills. Josh Allen. You got a Josh Allen jersey?
dyl: Yeah, Josh Allen fan, No, I don't. I need to get one,
Bradley Vaughan: I'll get you one for your bird. He's got the kid now. Haley Steinfeld, he's locked in. That's what you're talking about, Dill. He's got DJ Moore. I've been seeing a dude. Sorry. This this is the Bills year, I will say. DJ Moore's on the Bills. Yeah. This is the Bills year. I did not know that. No, hey, Dallas, ⁓ Bills, Bills won. That's just not gonna happen. What's or what's more impressive? I just saw this. Bills, Bears.
dyl: ⁓ yeah, he's very locked. Yeah, uh-huh. I hope so,
Bradley Vaughan: What's more impressive, the Bills making the Super Bowl and losing four years in a row, or them actually winning one? Like you mean Like at the Is it like the you know how hard it is to make a Super Bowl? Probably making it four times in a row. They made it four years in a row. I I I will always ride with that.
dyl: I don't know, I feel like they have to win one, bro.
Bradley Vaughan: And they never won. Yeah, four yeah. I think Could you imagine being a fan of theirs? ⁓ no, shot myself. Like the s like even by the second year we're like, all right, last year wasn't it, but this is the team. But then the third year you're like We got it. I mean, we're not gonna lose three in a row. In the fourth year. And then the fourth year you just think about what you're gonna do if they do lose again. Yeah, and then you have to act like you love the cold too. Alright, what's more what's more impressive? The Bills making the Super Bowl four years in a row or LeBron making eight?
dyl: You
Bradley Vaughan: Finals eight years in a row. That's not even a question. What? What can I what is that even a question? Yeah, why are you what's more impressive? Why would eight not be better than you're better than this? It's football's way harder to make it, I feel like. I do agree with that. Football is harder to make it. I do agree. Like you never see a team make the Super Bowl two years in a row, really. But one guy putting a team on his back for eight straight years. What are you doing? Don't do that. Please. Not in here. I was thinking 'cause like football is like
dyl: LBJ.
Bradley Vaughan: Your the turnover I feel like on a football team is way more than I agree. It's harder. It's harder to get to the Super Bowl
dyl: It's definitely harder to get back in football, because I mean, it's one game. I mean, you can play bad one game, or you know what saying? It's so hard.
Bradley Vaughan: But the NBA's never seen a guy for eight straight years just lead his team to the NBA. Like you know what I mean? That's true. I just feel like football so much like I feel like it's a good argument that sense the football so hard to do it. Like ⁓ man, if if the Bills don't do it this year with DJ Moore, they do that dude. DJ Moore's the big team Cooper. It's not like they got Justin Jefferson back there. You can you can laugh all you want, but there's really not too many holes in that team besides he didn't have a number one. He's throwing the ball a little secure. Coleman hasn't turned out to be who they want. They're
dyl: That's tough bro, eight times. They needed a receiver bad, I don't know.
Bradley Vaughan: Kincaid's been hurt. Knox just he needs to go home. McDermott sucked as a coach. I I don't think he sucked. I think you know what I think this is gonna be? I think it's gonna be exactly like Thibodeau. Thibodeau was a good coach for the Knicks, got him started, and then there's a guy that just comes in, changes the tone a little bit. Marcus Freeman. Who is their coach? Marcus Freeman. Everyone's thought about Marcus Freeman going to league. Do they even have one? It's still Sean McDermott. No. They fired him. They hired ⁓
dyl: I don't even know who their coach is. No, Sean gone. Yeah. I don't know who the coach is though.
Bradley Vaughan: They they hired ⁓ It's probably somebody on the Kingsbury or Shaw McVay tree. ⁓
dyl: Hey, if it's on that tree, I would be high.
Bradley Vaughan: ⁓ Joe Brady. That is ⁓ That is McVaitry, I think. ⁓ yeah, he was with the b he's been with the Bills. So All right, new coach. Yeah, new coach DJ Moore. Huh? James Cook gonna do it again? They got a good offensive ⁓ line.
dyl: Okay. Cause I didn't know that either and it by. Hey bro, I hope they can get one.
Bradley Vaughan: That would be my b I think that's who I would pick. Go ahead. You confident of Devontae Smithers won over there? ⁓ I mean yeah. I would like better, but I don't think he's that bad. I I would be when you have Goddard, Barkley, that offensive line. Dallas Goddard's not on the team, I don't think. What? How's Scottert gone? Because I don't think we can pay him. Well, I don't think he's playing for anybody else. Eagles did get ⁓
dyl: God is gone. The latter is definitely solid.
Bradley Vaughan: Dallas Goddard's so underrated, man. He's been good forever. No, he did. Sign he signed one year, one more year. That'd probably be it for him.
dyl: man. Okay. You hype on the, ⁓ the rookie I got, Zeke?
Bradley Vaughan: Yeah, we've got Mikai Lemon. ⁓ Yeah, dude, he is dirty. I I heard his hamstring's still problem though. I d I haven't seen that. But let's let's just lay him on the couch for the next few months and I forgot about him. How much does Odell really play? Shit, he might play ⁓ him Malachi Fields and they have Sari Darius Slayton still. I don't know what Odell's doing.
dyl: bit. as a neighbor.
Bradley Vaughan: That is crazy. Odell's back. Go on the back. Going to the white party. Should Jalen Hyatt give up thirteen? Yeah. What is he doing? I don't even know. No, he shouldn't. Dude, he sucks. I don't care. Od Odell. You gotta Odell thirteen. Why, man? You Odell offered to buy it off him too. Odell's not like ⁓ Odell's like this, but he's not like Jalen Hyatt is like nothing. Hey, you know what? That's that's
dyl: with the Giants, Yeah, you have to, yeah. You know.
Bradley Vaughan: That's that's a part of the risk when you leave your team, man. I mean you expect nobody else to take your number when you leave when you're not thirteen. He ain't lived up to it. Is Odell a Hall of Famer? ⁓ If you gotta think about it, I don't think you deserve to automatically get your number back. I think you think about it in the sense of like what he did for like five years straight.
dyl: No. He was one of them ones. ⁓ my goodness.
Bradley Vaughan: He was sixteen hundred, eighteen hundred, seventeen hundred, sixteen hundred. He should get his number off that one catch alone. Yeah, no shit. Well, okay. That's the best catch I've ever seen. I think you remember. I remember where I was. My grandma couldn't even see at that time, and I still think she said damn. Yeah. She said damn.
dyl: I'm saying who was that again? I don't remember. ⁓ my goodness, bro.
Bradley Vaughan: Giants, they can be any good. What do you think? ⁓ what do you think? Jackson Darst not bad. Yeah. But you're not you're not gonna be better than us. Yeah. Com Commander's about to get Yeah, Tyrone Jason, Purdue. He's good, but damn he's old for being a like in the league for He is old. I didn't realize how old he was.
dyl: Boy time on Tracy. I'm about to hit my boy up, bro. He gotta come on the pod. Yeah, I just thought about that. Yeah, I gotta hit him up, Yeah, that's my guy.
Bradley Vaughan: I didn't reali I just didn't realize You know him? Alright, we'll have to edit that out. Tyrone, hop on. I didn't mean to call him old. I just said like He was older when he came in the league, but I just thought he was younger. He looks young. He plays young. Yeah, I what that was like a like a WTF moment when actually like someone said like it literally the tweet just said Google his age and I was like, What the? ⁓ shit, I didn't know who like he came in the league a he's older, like twenties. ⁓ he's like already like twenty eight. But he's only been in the league like a couple of years.
dyl: There we go. How old is he? Tyrone Tracy's not 28, he's not older than me. He's not older than me.
Bradley Vaughan: Yes he Look it up. No he ain't. He's all been a twenty six or something. He's he's older than you think. He's older than you think. He's twenty he's twenty six, he turns twenty seven in November. But how long has he been in the league? ⁓ I guess.
dyl: Yeah, he's younger than that. I know he's not older than me. Oh, oh shit. Well, he is about to be my age. But no, he's not 28 though. There was no way. Cause he was in the class under me.
Bradley Vaughan: Yeah. He's been in the league for can be more than three years. Okay. This a this this'll be his third year. So turning twenty seven this year, came in the league twenty five. That's that's what like was a little d that's shocking a little bit. 'Cause I'm I mean Yeah. Did he play all four or did he get five or and he got a covet year probably? Where did he ⁓ did he go to Decatur? Yeah. I d I remember I remember playing against him in basketball.
dyl: A 16 tray just happened? Cause he didn't say, cause in college, you had to say three years for football, right? And then I think it had to be all four. Yeah, he was wrong, indicator. They called him Tavon Austin. was, he was cold. He was, he was, man, was nice.
Bradley Vaughan: Really? Hey, that's that's a massive ⁓ compliment. Yeah, he was hey, he was a receiver in college too. Yeah, he was receiver pretty much. I remember playing him in basketball after seeing his like his photos. I was like damn. He dunked on you? No. Who dunked on Nick? I have to ask that then. ⁓ the kid from Manny Brown. Yeah, Manny Brown.
dyl: Chris Middleton just got sent to the Wizards.
Bradley Vaughan: Again. Again? Dude, he's out of the league. He's back. ⁓ Jared I gotta see what Jared's saying about that. He loves Chris Middleton though.
dyl: I forgot about that. hit the spot. Oh my goodness. Hold on. Yeah, it says the Mavs will send Christian Middleton to the Wizards via signing trade as part of a 16 deal. Six.
Bradley Vaughan: Six? Six team. We're doing a six team deal for Chris Middleton. What? What are we doing? All right, man. Like what are we trading like on the other ends of that? Like a microwave, a toaster, like Hey big a big news broke before we potted. ⁓ Karis Levert got traded for Tarion Prince and Gary Harris. You guys seeing what Nimhard's doing in this he's cooking. My God. You see a dunk? Why can't you do that with us?
dyl: It says clippers, pistons, bucks, and grizzlies. Mavs inventin' wizards. ⁓ my goodness. ⁓ D-Delo's going to the Grizzlies, damn. What the hell?
Bradley Vaughan: I actually haven't s I actually haven't I've really only been seeing V J Edge come. Bro and Zubok had a couple of good games. Shout out shout out Kion, but he said ⁓ I saw they posted ⁓ like Andrew Nimhard's like basically like clips of like dunks like Euros all the shit he does. And they they slid in one Ryan Nimhard clip, like just him going down a lane for a layup and he said he wishes Andrew Nimhard was that fast or something. I was like, Nimhard be moving, like when he goes downhill, I feel like he's not that slow to be You could say something like that. Yeah, no, he's like ⁓ like he plays at his pace, but he's not slow. Yeah. ⁓ he's definitely not slow. He's just like he's so strong. Like and like his Euro steps, like his pay like he does the one step and fly. He's like a slow one leg bump that he does. Dude, that bump is the strongest move in the ⁓ he'd be moving centers. That's like Giannis, literally. He might be like same strength on that. He pushed Brooke Lopez off one and Brooke Lopez went flying. I was like, ⁓ shit.
dyl: Nah, he's not so at all. Thanks. You
Bradley Vaughan: No, Nimhard's like I I would I'd move Niesmith for Nimhard. What do you think? I I love both those guys. Those are our two glue guys. I got I ain't say anything bad about neither one of ⁓ I'm not answering that. I don't want to lose either of them, but I it's not like they're gonna move him anyway. Yeah, no. No, you better not. But he's about to get paid though. Like those Nimhard's next contract's gonna be paid. Dude, you just gotta go get a superstar, pay all these guys for one year. Let's go do this shit. Let's d decide who you're gonna get rid of after. And they're always Jarrus.
dyl: Man, bro.
Bradley Vaughan: Couple first rounders and TJ for Trey Murphy. Lock it in. They don't want McConnell. It's gonna hurt us. They're gonna accidentally sess Yeah. Well they they finally came down to three first round picks. Bay Murphy or something stupid like that. They're gonna send us Troy Murphy. ⁓
dyl: you. Oh, y'all are crazy, man. What?
Bradley Vaughan: ⁓ man, they're gonna get Troy Murphy's rights back and they're gonna Hopefully Rick Carlisle will read the paperwork. He's getting pretty old. ⁓ man. That's I just instantly thought about Troy Murphy. I knew you were gonna say some shit like that. That's why I was waiting for it.
dyl: Yeah, it was right there, bro. Privacy, there's nothing to do that kind of looks like Trevor Lawrence
Bradley Vaughan: Troy Murphy. Yeah. He played yeah, he he played here like in the ⁓ mid two thousands. He played in Golden State. It's like a it's yeah, it's like a broad, like yeah, bre broad TL, yeah. God. Hey, he he was actually pretty good though. He's like four he's like fourteen and eight for his career. He had some good years here. Him, Mike Dunleavy, Danny Granger. God. Young Hibbert. There were some there were some dark days after the freaking Jermaine O'Neal times and Hey, I
dyl: Yeah, isn't that him? I'm gonna say he's old as shit, isn't he? Yeah, right. funniest hack.
Bradley Vaughan: I I mean we'd win thirty eight games though, man, but it was a fun thirty-eight win team. Like I feel like it's because the Pacers are always so good at home. You ought to see this couple I have upstairs. I got Troy Murphy on it. The Pacers are so good at being like consistently good, like average. Because it I just they never get attacked. It's playing basketball in Indiana, you just find a way. What's the darkest days ever for the Pacers? ⁓ like since I've been alive. Yeah.
dyl: man.
Bradley Vaughan: ⁓ Probably like Jeff Foster, number one option. I will say when v I w like I remember being at the game when Victor like you just you could feel last year. I feel like pretty I feel like Da Granger's early days were pretty bad. Like the Geor like whenever when everybody in Indiana got the news about George's knee and like how he did it, I I remember that was like
dyl: What'd you Yeah, they did stink last year,
Bradley Vaughan: That was bad and then like I was at the Vic game where where he got hurt and you could just feel like everybody in the stadium knew that, ⁓ here we go again, we have to restart over. You knew like everybody knew he was never gonna be the same again. And you knew like what was was never gonna be the same. That was a horrible feeling. I think the best times were when they had Bojan. Is that his name? ⁓ game three Cav series. Pulls from forty five. I just need I knew we were never going anywhere with Thaddeus Young as our power forward. Hey, don't forget that graphic. He's on. Hate that graphic. It's like only it's like it's like only players to average like twenty six. Thaddeus Young on there. It's like fourteen it's like fourteen and a half points, three point two assists. Yeah, it's like the most four point seven rebounds and it's like the reach one five games in December.
dyl: Adios.
Bradley Vaughan: I feel I see those type of stats like every day in the WNBA now. Cheers. Damn. Couldn't have
dyl: That's another record being broken every day in a W.
Bradley Vaughan: Yeah. why do You know what? I'm gonna save that one. Yeah, dude, I actually got something way off topic. Syrup. I was sitting there watching the ⁓ Columbia Switzerland FIFA game today. ⁓ yeah. And they go to PK's, bro. I'm I'm just sitting there. Being a goalie in a PK might actually be the hardest thing in sports. ⁓ I'd shit right down my leg. ⁓ I'd jump the wrong way every time. That's gotta be the hardest like I actually think it might be h harder than like
dyl: you Man.
Bradley Vaughan: You don't even know. You don't have you have no clue. I played I played goalie my senior year in high school. ⁓ that ball became eight thing. I'll never forget though, ⁓ I think Pat McKenzie's our goal the time. But we played Decatur and they got this transfer student from like Kenya. ⁓ he was like center striker. He was like six eight. Probably ran like a four two forty. I mean, this dude was just flying across the field. And we tied them like one one. It was like our greatest we went like three and thirty but like that was the greatest accomplishment of all time. I didn't even know we had a soccer team. That's fucking disrespectful, man. Sorry.
dyl: i'm there with you creep i didn't know that either no i'm bullshitting bro i'm bullshitting i thought it airplay
Bradley Vaughan: No, come on man. We had some we had some players. Aaron Wills. I'm bullshit, man. I used to see the guys' post on Instagram, give it a like and never think about it again. But I was I turned the TV on. I thought Aaron was be playing for team of USA. He could have did it. We just don't have there's no athletes out there, man. Yeah, Aaron Aaron was I never watched the game, so I can't say anything. But ⁓ he was good. He was a dog. Did he play at DePaul? Yeah. ⁓ yeah. Then we had like Sean White. He like our Draymond Green of the team.
dyl: Boy, A-RUN!
Bradley Vaughan: He went out there and just got red cards. A snowboarder. Sean White. I don't think he s you're fucking hilarious.
dyl: Hey, speaking of red cards, did y'all see the, obviously our best player get the red card taken away and we still got what?
Bradley Vaughan: Whoa. Yes. Shout out Donnie. Not our not our best player, though. Not our best player. Yes, he was. Pulsic is our best player. Bro, did you watch that clown any of the games this this broke up? He's not in that guy. This is this is what you want to play. This is what I hate about international sports right now, too. Jesus, Dill. Tell us how your look is now we were getting bullied. Like straight up. This is horrible.
dyl: You know what? He wouldn't? And we got fucking drilled, man. It wasn't even close. bro it was bad and did you see it did you see the goalie our goalie i'm like what was that bro man
Bradley Vaughan: We deserve he's selling. We deserved it. He gave he gave him the ball. He pumped fake the kick. We deserve to get bullied though. I mean we didn't deserve to. Dude, d we have to stop an international sports letting people not from the actual country play. Like that guy is so weird. Well, like they do that in Basketball. Our coach isn't even American. What in the I mean, I feel like none of those do any of those players even play on the MLS team or they all play over S. I think they're like amateurs.
dyl: That was ass, bro.
Bradley Vaughan: Like all of our guys. Well, I mean, we're not supposed to be good at soccer. This is every other country's best athletes play soccer though. And like these are like these in the way these are our best athletes. Because that's just not our main sport like here though. Like that's why our best athletes don't play it. Yeah. Like is Messi still play for that Miami team? Yeah. Yeah, he does. But I mean but that's like a he's carrying Argentina.
dyl: Yeah.
Bradley Vaughan: Well that that's just a bad team though. Like just obviously at the end of his career. I was kinda hoping we'd get a ⁓ L S team here. He just did it for fun 'cause he's never done it before. No, he owns the team and they paid him a quadrillion dollars. He paid himself. They paid himself. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, but he's still the best. Like I mean, do you see what he did today? Yeah. Literally today. What th yes ⁓ he had a goal and assist on the other two and they did it in thirteen minutes. All right. That was crazy though, that goal they took away.
dyl: Man, bro. Messy's cold, bro.
Bradley Vaughan: Yeah, that was. That was one of the craziest things I've ever seen in sp like I don't even know that much about soccer. They let him run the whole field. Dude. They let him have a h they let the whole country celebrate for thirty minutes. The entire field he ran with the ball. Yeah, and then passed it and then sauced that dude between the legs. The goalie? No, no, no. No. He sauce he was he was coming heading. It wasn't messy. It was Egypt. No, it was Egypt. They they like ⁓ this dude on Argentina flopped. Flopped so bad, like
dyl: Okay.
Bradley Vaughan: And he grabbed the ball, he took it, he got to half. These two guys were like meeting to come get him. He split he went through the dude's leg and split the two, and like Dagnir made him run into each other. That's fire. Passed it to this passed it to the guy. Yeah. Scored it. The place was going insane. Just for them to do like They were plus like eight fifty today, dude. Egypt. I mean I didn't even know Egypt had a soccer team before this. I thought they just like they're part of the world.
dyl: Whatever. Ha
Bradley Vaughan: Well, I understand that, but I mean You think you're s fucking Egyptians? I don't know. I don't like Green He thinks they're all mummies. Greenland. Alright, you guys have her a bunch of pharaohs out there? Yeah. Did China play? Yeah. They have a team, yeah. Say Greenland? Probably. Is that a country? I don't know if it is. Yes it is. Yes. Okay. Did they play?
dyl: Sorry. Dude.
Bradley Vaughan: Probably. They didn't make Probably's not an answer. Yeah, you gotta qualify still. ⁓ okay. Hey, Morocco went crazy. They're still kicking, but by the time we come back next week, I don't know. I don't my people. They they eating that food that you was talking about. Hey, did you catch did you catch a soccer game out there? Yeah, yeah. I remember we asked I I just didn't remember.
dyl: Friday. Shout out to my Moroccans too, Shout out to my Moroccans, man. They will be at home with all my peoples. Dude crazy. That's that's what made me come into Huh? That's made me become a soccer fan, bro. That was the first time I ever seen one That shit is live bro. There's not those fans are insane It's sold out for sure do the whole stadium is just red cuz all they wear is red and then it's fire
Bradley Vaughan: That atmosphere just nuts. Even just like a game on like a Wednesday or something, like it's just sold out, packed. ⁓ that's fire. Isn't it crazy, man, like watching those guys control a ball like that, man? Like with your foot. ⁓ that's one of the most like skillful things. Moving that fast. Yeah, running really fast. Like shooting off guns in the stands and even worse, right?
dyl: Bro. ⁓ yeah, that's the first time I've seen it. It was a yeah, cause they do it. They do it around the whole stadium. It's not just like one like side. They'll do it. They'll shoot the flares and stuff around the whole thing. The whole arena bros fire.
Bradley Vaughan: That's bad. That's fire. I f don't they like I f I feel like every soccer stadium like sings the whole time too? Like they'll do like their like chants and like just like sing random shit the whole time. Was everybody like playing soccer on the streets there too? You can walk outside everyone just kicking the soccer ball around. That's fire. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I was that's what I was picturing.
dyl: Yep. They're true fans, bro. They just yelled the whole game. Yeah, exactly what y'all see sometimes like in the movies and stuff. It's like that. Definitely just like that.
Bradley Vaughan: Did you see that ⁓ video like Mexico when they were celebrating their win? Like just the parade of people all the way down that drone footage. ⁓ it was I think like five people died. But those celebrations I bet are just insane. Like especially like countries that are devoted to soccer like that. Like you always see those soccer fans are like the most devoted to their sport. The cr the crowd pops whenever people score in this World Cup is
dyl: It was packed. Yeah, I don't even doubt that, bro. They would definitely be true diehard fans.
Bradley Vaughan: This is just what I live for, like in sports. The crowd pops. I feel like the crowd like they played in the twelfth man yesterday in Seattle and I just feel like that does nothing. I feel like crowd noise does nothing in soccer. Nah, not like it was football or basketball. Not when you have the team USA does. It doesn't really mean shit. I mean, you can make you as a fan you can make all the noise you want. I've been there as a fan before. I mean that's the loudest stadium in the country and I just feel like it there's like no advantage to like crowd noise.
dyl: When Brad texted the chat the 12th man brah, I actually got hype and then I started watching the guys. Yeah, we're about to get aired, bro
Bradley Vaughan: Yeah, they did not care. You could tell in the first five minutes before they even scored that we were ju we did not look like we belonged there. That stadium is probably nothing compared to what they usually play in. No. No. Like, ⁓ that's cute. They got a lot of people here. Yeah, USA's out. Furthest they've ever been though. Round of sixteen.
dyl: soon.
Bradley Vaughan: They never ⁓ they usu they never won around thirty two before they beat the last team they played. So Cool. We're on the up and up. This country needs more soccer players. Yeah, if any young kids are out there listening, start playing soccer, we need some new people for the team in a few years. Just let the fun people do it. We're not very fun at it. Saving me. No, we're not. Just going out there and have fun. Like like ⁓ you know.
dyl: What the was that?
Bradley Vaughan: It's just some American people playing soccer. Also I did see a tweet that said none of these Belgian people will see Derek Henry in the A gap. That's crazy. I mean they were wrong. Let's let it be an international game. Let's just keep being good at basketball. Basketball's an international game. We own that show. Five best players in the league are international players. Can't beat us. Yeah. But they're all separate countries though. Yeah, can't beat us. That's true. US day. They can't beat Steph Curry. No, they probably will beat us in Val they probably will beat us in the next Olympics, I'm guessing. No Wimby's coming with vengeance.
dyl: My go. ⁓ yeah, hate to say it, I don't think we're gonna win that next one. It depends on who's all going, but I just don't see us winning.
Bradley Vaughan: Yeah. I mean Canada's even Yeah Canada's even likes to play it anymore, either. Like that's another thing.
dyl: KD said he might go back and play another one.
Bradley Vaughan: I speed getting USA is that's that is ⁓
dyl: He gave us everything. He gave us everything. That's why he didn't play this year.
Bradley Vaughan: That is that was awesome for us because if not we were putting me out there at center. I don't even feel good about it. There's no good American centers. Ooh, ooh, ooh. Ooh, Charlie Horse. Right my hamstring. What the ⁓ I mean Griff did say it about ten minutes ago that he doesn't like whenever people from other countries play for. ⁓ dude, it like ruins like what it's all about. Like I'm like, Joel Embiid. Huh? Yeah. I I like that he's from You want Joel Embiid or you Bam attayed starting at center? I I want the American guy. I want the American guy playing for us.
dyl: You
Bradley Vaughan: Didn't ban That don't make it that don't make it true. I mean I mean he can be American all he wants, but that guy ain't American.
dyl: The bee said he was American. Hey, man ⁓ my goodness,
Bradley Vaughan: That is crazy how he was able to play here. Didn't Bam like try to do the same thing? Like Bam may not even be American. Yeah, didn't he say he was debating between two different teams too? I feel like Your last name's Atabio. ⁓ we're getting canceled. I don't see why. It's just international ⁓ talk.
dyl: ⁓ my goodness. The kid that is BAM is, yeah, he might not be. Now there's definitely a lot of internationals that I've been confused. Like Eric Gordon playing for Jamaica, like on the, or the Bahamas I mean, or whatever the hell it was, bro. I said, yeah.
Bradley Vaughan: Dude, Buddy I guess Buddy and VJ. Buddy Hill plays for the Bahamas. Clay Thompson. Where's he play where's he playing? He he Clay won Clay got ⁓ he he got accepted to play for the Bahamas last year. Is it because he drives his boat there or something? Like used to get that like an achievement award. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, man.
dyl: I'm a what? See bro? No.
Bradley Vaughan: I was gonna okay, I'll I mean I'll just come out and say it now since every I was just gonna say skin tone, but then I just didn't want to get I just I feel like he's what what about skin tone? I feel like he's I feel I feel like Clay's got a Bahamas skin tone. He's just tan. Well he's light skinned. He's light skinned. Yeah, he's black. He's Bahamas skinned. Bahamas skinned. Bahamas. That's You never played like Michael Thompson on the Lakers all time teams? I only I only know one person from the Bahamas and it's V. G. Edgecombe and him and Clay Thompson don't look alike.
dyl: Who? About who? White skin. Bahama skin. Okay, okay.
Bradley Vaughan: Yeah, see I wouldn't guess VJ's from the Bahamas. I would. He got drafted and said he lived on the generator for seven years. That's crazy, man. That was awesome. That was like they made you immediately root for him. Yeah, that's why they call him the generator. Did he go to Baylor? They call him the generator. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was awesome. He could have killed more at Baylor too. He was so passive, it was making me angry. It was just He kept passive. He even said it himself, I think. It was like spacing is a lot different. That's why he's so much better like in the league.
dyl: as far as.
Bradley Vaughan: He was just staying in the corner at Baylor sometimes. Like who else got some crazy passes around the world last year? He won me like four hundred bucks though that one game. They put his over under like twelve points in the tournament. I said, ⁓ I'm hammering this. He had like sixteen.
dyl: Are you talking about like players playing for other teams?
Bradley Vaughan: Yeah, like there were some other ones that were just like, Come on, man, what are like I think Cap played for Dominican Republic or where'd he play? Yeah, like get your big ass over here. You're American. Let's see. And B definitely is not the American man. He's Cameroon.
dyl: Hold on, he's American but... and B is not? Carl, Carl's... he's a Dominican!
Bradley Vaughan: Yeah, he's Dominican. Yeah, but he was born here, wasn't he? And lived here his whole life. Like I don't think Embiid lived here his whole life, but Kat did.
dyl: Bees fresh off the boat. Okay. Okay.
Bradley Vaughan: Yeah. Yeah. ⁓ shit. I'm the captain now. ⁓ man. Well this was a good run, you know. Well I finally I finally lost We got to the point where
dyl: I'm ⁓ my goodness, bro.
Bradley Vaughan: Clay's Bahamaskin, and Bede's fresh off the boat. He's the captain. Atabios no way at all American. Like like Siakamin and Bede are like. You know? What about both of those? No, I'm saying, like that like that's one and the same. Why? They're international, like they're not. Where's Pascal from? Somalia. Can't ⁓ yeah. I was g
dyl: ⁓ man. He's Somalian?
Bradley Vaughan: Why was I gonna say Cancun? I mean he probably went there. He's been there a lot. You what though? He's probably thinking of Embiid being Cambodia. I thought he was Cameroon. No, I wasn't. ⁓ it is Cameroon. ⁓ is it? Or when the hell did you get Cambodia? It's pretty close. Cam, Cam, I don't know. They're just pretty similar. Mm. I'm trying to think of somebody that like I th there's other ones in the Olympics that went somewhere.
dyl: Wow. That's in B, dude. The twins are gonna be playing for Jamaica. The Thompson twins, yeah.
Bradley Vaughan: Who? Thompson twins. Yeah, see this is the bullshit. You don't just get you Yeah, go ahead. Hey hey Dill, what what do you think about that, man?
dyl: Ayyyy
Bradley Vaughan: I feel but do you think those guys like don't think they're gonna be on TM USA? Like they don't think they're gonna be I don't care. That's the whole problem. You don't just get to not make the team and make up that you're from somewhere.
dyl: Hey, bro, I don't I don't get it, bro You I feel their pay bro, cause like When I was trying to play overseas like I try to go get my dual citizenship for Korea to be Korean So like so when I go to when I go to Korea, I would just be like one of their players instead of like an import So I try to get dual citizenship, but they didn't sign off on it
Bradley Vaughan: Yeah. Yeah. So so what, is McConnell gonna be starting for Africa? If he wanted to. Yeah. Does it make USA? He's gonna be throwing lobs to thirty eight year old Kenneth Freed in in the in the Olympics. I forgot about Kenneth Freed. What an awesome player. I mean, this is ⁓ man, I'm looking this up, but c mean Dylan, that's that that's a good one, man. Players who aren't
dyl: Oh my gosh, bro You are stupid, bro. You are funny as heck,
Bradley Vaughan: From there. You're gonna be seeing Zeke play for Rocket League. What? That's not a country. ⁓ Players that aren't from their country in the Olympics. It's like one. Look at basketball and basketball.
dyl: out there with my koreans, did you say rocket league?
Bradley Vaughan: I mean we're on an hour of two minutes bullshit. All right, Griff, round us out here. Who's the who's the players on the team? I thought we were gonna play a little game. ⁓ we can play the game next time. Play the game next time. Yeah, so Kyle Anderson wants to play for China. He looks Chinese. No, he plays Chinese.
dyl: ⁓ wow, I didn't even notice when this long. ⁓ my goodness, bro
Bradley Vaughan: He plays in slow motion, so yeah, I guess. Lorenzo Brown. Where's he playing? He wants to play for Spain. Who is Lorenzo Brown? I can tell you Spain's never had a Lorenzo before. my god. That's that's too swaggy for that. What else we got? Josh Hawkinson. Who? He wants to play for Japan.
dyl: yeah, lorenzo's not spain, jackie knows that for damn sure, he's not spanish
Bradley Vaughan: Can you like anybody like that we know? Rory Ru Rui Hashimura plays for Japan. Now he should. Yeah, no, he's he's like he is like their freaking He is yeah. That's the GOAT over there. Yeah. Well he He was on the cover 2K like every year there. No, I agree. I agree. He should be. No, he's we didn't say anything about Jose Alvarado. Okay, that makes sense. Like they're where's Jose Alvarado playing? He should play for Puerto Rico. Yeah, that makes sense. He looks Puerto Rican. What? He gotta go with the looks.
dyl: Is there any like any known players? Yeah, he actually is. He's Japanese. That's my kinfolk. Yeah, he is Puerto Rican, And Cat- Cat looks Dominican! I'm not about to go down that argument with you again though, but yeah.
Bradley Vaughan: Yeah. Dil, I swear he doesn't look Dominican. Just because you look something. That's it like I know, but that's really Griff As long as you look like it, Griff's good if you play there actually. Okay. Okay. ⁓ wait, is there any w Dam, I wish Keelan was here so we could blow this picture up. We'll blow it up in the Look at this guy that wants to play for Japan. Yeah. Yeah. Japanese. Does he? Looks like he sells insurance at State Farm over here in Beach Grove. Looks like he's already playing for Japan. Yeah, too. How do I do this? Can I Dil, can you stand up and put it right on my phone. Dill. Dil, take a look. Get up get up and go to the phone. Dill can't see a fucking thing you're pointing on. Dude he looks like he looks like por Porzingis. Yeah.
dyl: You What? I'm trying to look. Does he have a buzz cut? He just said he's white.
Bradley Vaughan: Yeah. He looks like a broken Porzingis. Literally. He looks like Kyle Guy. Did he say He kinda does. Look at him. He actually does look like Kyle Guy. Got a little bit of a Detroit Murphy. That's who we're getting. I think he's trying to play for Japan. Yeah, yeah. I'm sure he is. He He probably wants to play for Senegal. ⁓ man. Actually, Senegal
dyl: What about him, Griff? Can you see that, Griff? They said he's got to get his dual citizenship too. That's my goodness, bro. Y'all are stupid.
Bradley Vaughan: They're going to hell 'cause we should have been playing them instead of Belgium. They choked the two o lead with ten minutes left in the side. Spain was about to Spain was about to take us and do whatever they wanted with USA. ⁓ What? Bro, they're saying it was crazy. Spain was about to do it. He had his hands out and everything. Hey, hey, whatever I was gonna say, Spain was doing it. Brother, we probably would have not scored, but
dyl: He's about to say some crazy stuff would you He's about to say some crazy shit grip
Bradley Vaughan: Those guys are so scared to shoot unless it's Laminia Mall. It's actually like embarrassing. They don't they ain't allowed to goal all this World Cup. So I know that's not I don't ⁓ know, man. It's a matchup thing. They just drawled with they just drew with a drawled. No, they scored at ninety one the last mat last game. ⁓ that's right. Spain's them. It's all about different matchups, man. And we probably would have been more pumped to play Spain than Belgium. We they probably never beat Belgium. Yeah. Well like ⁓ and eight. No, I think we won once in nineteen thirty. I thought we tied that one. But I'm not even sure that counts. Anything pre nineteen fifty don't count. I think Belgium was a country in nineteen thirty. Okay. All right, that's another episode of the three point podcast. ⁓ any f any closing remarks, fellas? I think that was a good one there, Griff.
dyl: Shout out to my maracas and shout out Troy Murphy,
Bradley Vaughan: Shout out Troy Murphy. He's coming home. Shout out. Guest coming soon. We don't know yet, but we're working on it. If you're if you're still with us, man, we appreciate you. Yeah, we just talking fucking bullshit. We're trying to figure this out. You know? All right, man. Shout out TJ Ford. Yep. Shout out Jamal Tinsley. Alright, till next time. Peace.
dyl: All right, babies.