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Speaker 1: Hi, if you record your name and reason for calling, I'll see if this person is available.
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Speaker 2: Hi, this is the gecko. I'm calling to see if you want to be on the gecko show. Thanks.
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Speaker 3: Hello.
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Speaker 1: Hello.
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Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
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Speaker 2: What's up? What's up, man? What's your name?
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Speaker 3: My name is Andrew. What's your name?
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Speaker 2: Andrew. My name is Lyle. I do the gecko show.
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Speaker 1: No shit.
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Speaker 3: I never got on the phone with you, dude.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you called me two days ago, and so I'm calling you back.
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Speaker 3: Oh, nice. What are you doing?
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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I'll go first. It's going all right. It's evening time. It's Saturday. I'm alive. I'm trying my best. And, you know, we have less than a month until Grand Theft Auto 6 comes out. So, that'll keep me going for a while.
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Speaker 3: How about you? Right, right. You know, honestly, man, just waiting for our holidays to be over, you know. We're all stacked up on work and never ends, you know. Can't complain about work. I, uh, recently, uh, recently got into some stuff with, uh, with some law here, with the law, and man, it's honestly just a bunch of mind, it's mind-blowing, you know, on all the stuff that they're, uh, that they're trying to do, you know. So, So I got arrested a few days ago. And they're trying to get me on the old charge that I had actually taken care of. And they're saying that I never took care of it. And they're saying that I was never dismissed. So now they want me to go back to court at the end of the year. And I'm like, you know, why is it going to take this long for her? Okay.
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Speaker 2: Would talking about... I mean, this is... I'm recording this for the podcast. I mean, is talking about this bad for your case?
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Speaker 3: No, no. It's not even nothing serious, to be honest. It is what it is. It's something... It's nothing serious. There's nothing that they could do about it. Or even if I talk about it, you know?
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 3: It's just, yeah, it's like an old case from, for so many years ago. And I guess now they finally brought it up and they said that I never went to court, but I never went to court for it and getting dismissed. And I don't know what's going on now.
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Speaker 2: So what's your, so do you have to, you have to go back to court?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to go back actually in December. towards the end of the month of December. And they said that I had to go to court to see what they're going to give me. And I told them, you know, I don't know what's even going to happen here.
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Speaker 2: How old is the case?
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Speaker 3: About three and a half years old.
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Speaker 2: Okay. Do you have to like, do you have to go to another state?
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Speaker 3: No, no. It's in the same state. Same city, you know, same little town.
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Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 3: So, I'm trying to figure out what's going to go on there. That's really been bugging me, you know, because, um, I never really tried to get myself into trouble, you know, and now I feel like, you know, I got to wait for the dang law to, you know, take care of this. It's going to take me two months now to get this over with.
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Speaker 2: Why did it, uh, uh, okay, I, you know, I don't want you to get too detailed. I don't want you getting, uh, any trouble or anything, but why, why did it take, why did it like reappear?
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Speaker 3: I guess, um, so this area where I'm from, and I think this is an area, actually, um, I think they do roundup and I'm guessing, uh, they do background checks on people with veins, you know, see if they have any outstanding warrants or outstanding pain cases, I'm guessing, you know, I'm assuming, and I guess my name was on there, and I didn't know, and they came and got me, dude, from work, actually.
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Speaker 2: Oh, from work?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they came and got me from work. They didn't wait for me to be off to work. Like, they came and got me from work. Oh, wow. Yeah, and I was like, what's going on, you know? And they told me I had a warrant for my arrest, and I was like, what? You know what I'm saying? They set the charge and I'm like, dude, this was taken care of like years ago. I was like, how is this even possible? I don't know. They said, well, that's the law, buddy. They said, put your hands on your back. And I was like, dude, are you serious? I was like, why did it take so long for you to come get me then?
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Speaker 2: Great. But there's like a, isn't there like a double jeopardy? I'm not going to be your lawyer. I'm not a good lawyer. Um, but, uh, if you have a lawyer, I was going to say, yeah, if you have a lawyer, tell him, I said this, if you have a lawyer and you tell him that I said this and he goes, oh, that sounds like a sub, then you should fire that lawyer. Cause he should probably know this, but, um, isn't there like a double jeopardy thing where like, you can't be arrested twice for the same thing.
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Speaker 3: And you know what and honestly you are right about that you know you are right about that because i've already been arrested for discharge once and then i'm getting re-arrested for discharge again after it was ready to take care of you know so it's it's honestly very mind-blowing if you really think about it you know and i think it's just a i think honestly it's just a money game you know like they just want to make money off somebody because uh or they want to make money off all the people that can actually right now have some, some swords. I'm assuming towards the end of the holidays, they want to get a bonus or, or something like that, you know? And, but that's not right either for them to be doing that, you know?
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Speaker 2: Do you, do you have a lawyer?
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Speaker 3: Not yet. I mean, it's not serious. It's not a serious charge for me to get a lawyer, but it doesn't hurt for me to get one either as well. You know, it's like, that would probably be the best option for me too, you know, just to be on the safe side.
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Speaker 2: Uh, probably. I mean, well, you get, I mean, you get one anyway, right? They have like a public defender.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah. Yeah. They gave me one. Yeah. They gave me one. They appointed me one. Uh, and, uh, she told me, she was like, you need to call back in December. Cause I'm looking into this case. Well, I told her, I said, nothing even serious, you know, that's just a, that's an old charge from a long time ago, you know? I had to pay like $ 1, 000 to get out of jail for this damn charge. And that was a cash bond. It wasn't even 10% or nothing else. That's what they wanted.
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Speaker 2: What's your life... Well, okay, so... Tell me about what life is going on that is being disrupted by this. How's your life going in general? You mentioned... You mentioned getting through the holidays. I want to get to how your life is going, but I'm also curious, are we in the holidays? Does Halloween count as the holidays? I always think of the holidays as Christmas, November. Does Halloween count?
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Speaker 3: In my perspective of you, honestly, bro, I don't really celebrate Halloween, so... everybody's not gonna say they have the same answer as me either you know they have their own opinion but i really think halloween is not a it's not a holiday you know but other people say it is a holiday so i don't know it's just kind of one of those things you don't i guess they have their different opinions on them you know and honestly in my eyes it's not a holiday you know it's more thanksgiving than christmas or new year's you know you know and uh But, you know, it's just, man, besides this, whatever's going on here, you know, this sort of thing in my life, man, it's just, my life's been real busy, real good, you know? For me, being real young, man, I've been working since I was, like, 15 years old. I had a full-time job. And it's always been, um, always been 12-hour days, you know? Mm-hmm. And it's just been, uh, I'm not complaining about it because, you know, I thank God every day that I get to wake up and I have a job to go to, you know. And I'm not here at home and just slouched up somewhere, you know. And so I thank God for that much, you know. At least he keeps me busy throughout my week and weekends and stuff. So, you know, it's it's just one of those things too, where, yeah, it's exhausting, but as well, you can't really complain about it because, you know, you don't work, you don't make no money, you don't eat, you know, so it's just the way I see it, you know.
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Speaker 2: Respect, respect, respect. Do you, do you have a family?
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Speaker 3: Actually, no, I'm a single guy, you know. I have no kids or nothing, so, you know, I just have my brothers, you know, my mother and father and stuff like that, you know, but that's beside me, you know, I just, I go on about my life, you know, it's just, I don't, I'm not looking for a family right now, but, I mean, if God gives me a family, you know, in the future, then, I mean, that's what he's been giving, you know, but. I think honestly right now I'm not even ready to have to get into a relationship right now I'm just real too focused on work and I don't know it's just don't get me wrong I do want to get into a relationship with a female but it's just I guess you could call me a workaholic I'm always working dude so I mean I really have no time to to go out and explore you know I guess if that makes.
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Speaker 2: Sense that makes sense that makes sense It's a lot, you got a lot going on.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, for sure. And it's, you know, and honestly, I wouldn't trade it for nothing else, you know. It's, it's real, I wouldn't trade it for nothing else because I could lose what I have now, you know, being real busy the way I am. You know, it's, I get real bored, you know, just not doing nothing at home, you know. I always got to do something, you know. I'm outside, you know, and cutting the trees or men. I gotta do something, you know? And just, that's the way I've always been, you know? It's just the way I was, that's how I was raised and trained, you know? Oh, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: You gotta, I, I mean, you gotta do some, if you don't do anything, you, uh, the whole idea of the, the, the idle hands are the devil's, uh, the devil, the devil uses them to, uh, get people to, kill themselves.
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Speaker 3: You know right right.
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Speaker 2: That whole thing that's a real thing that's a real thing.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah for sure you know uh but uh i'll let you go but i'm gonna go ahead and uh go to town get some dinner.
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Speaker 2: You're gonna wait you said you're gonna go you're gonna.
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Speaker 3: Go where uh get some dinner in town oh okay cool wanna uh buy at a restaurant Cool.
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Speaker 2: What, what kind of, what, what kind of, uh, cuisine are you aiming for? What kind of cuisine are you going to try to get?
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Speaker 3: You know, I was really thinking, uh, sounds funny, but I was probably, I was probably going out for a salad, dude. Conceited salad with, you know, I already ate too many, uh, too many stuff during this week, you know, like chicken and, you know, beef and stuff like that. I kind of want to really go for like a salad kind of, you.
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Speaker 2: Know, something chill. Are you, are you going to get, I was going to ask, this was actually my next question, is are you going to get chicken on the salad? Are you going to get any kind of meat on the salad?
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Speaker 3: Maybe just ham, preferably, you know, preferably ham. Ham.
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Speaker 2: Okay, cool.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. All right. That's, yeah, go ahead, go ahead. It's actually pretty good, dude, because they put lettuce, they put the ham, and then they put like the, you know, tomatoes or, You know, they put cucumbers and bacon and a bunch of other stuff on it. You know, you could put chicken on it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. But you don't want it to be too heavy. You don't want it to be too heavy.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. I'd rather just do the ham, you know. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Well, you know what? Yeah, that sounds stressful. It sounds stressful, all that stuff. But I'm glad that, like, in between everything, you get to have a nice salad, too. That's good, too.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. Can't ever go wrong with the cello, man, every once in a while, you know?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes, uh, it's like, it's the little things in life. Sometimes, uh, you know, if I'm going through a lot, I'll drink a, uh, a diet root beer, and I'll be like, this is why I got something, you know?
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Speaker 3: Right, yeah. You know, uh, I've actually been stuck on those, uh, Coke Zeros and Sprite and stuff like that you know and you know honestly man it's kind of weird if you really think about it because I've gotten used to a drink so much I've drank regular drinks and I'm kind of getting disgusted by the regular drinks now you know yeah.
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Speaker 2: That's what happens that's what happens you're like I can't believe the people regularly drink regular Coke that's not true I'll have a regular Coke once in a while and I'll be like wow this is incredible But it's too much to do all the time.
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Speaker 3: Real sweet, right? Yeah, I guess you never really notice until you change it up, you know?
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Speaker 2: It's true, you never notice until you change it up.
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Speaker 1: That's life.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's very true.
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Speaker 2: All right, Andrew, I'll let you get your salad. Thanks for sharing. Thanks for talking in the show. Is there anything else you want to... Do you have any final words for... for the people that you want to share before we go?
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Speaker 3: Uh, all I gotta say is, you know, um, y'all keep working and, you know, never give up and always aim for, for the best you got in life. You know, never, never let nobody put you down and always have a, uh, solid mind to whatever you're doing and always be motivated. And you've got things for everything that he gives you and, and also everything that he, uh, And the strength that he gives you to go out every day and provide for your family. That's pretty much all I got to say.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Andrew. Good luck. Enjoy your salad. I hope you continue to have a beautiful, uninterrupted life.
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Speaker 3: You too, brother. Thank you.
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Speaker 2: Thanks, Andrew. See you around the universe, man.
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Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
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Speaker 1: Bye.
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Speaker 2: That was Andrew. And look, before... I know what everyone's going to do. Everyone's going to go in the comments and be like, he said, you know, a.
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Speaker 3: Lot.
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Speaker 2: And he did. But he's not media. This is a show about talking to real people.
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Speaker 1: You know?
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Speaker 2: No, I say it all the time. It's a regular thing to say. It's not media trained.
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Speaker 1: Um....
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Speaker 2: I would be if somebody wanted to if somebody just wrote a comment being like he said you know a lot I'd be like come on like cut the guy some slack. But if somebody wrote a comment being like I did the work to physically count how many times he said it and they came up with a number then I'd be like okay I'm impressed that you put work into doing that. So don't just comment it for the sake of commenting it. Unless if you're going to do the work to count just out of, not out of a way of like putting anyone down, just have like, like a genuine curio, like a, how many, uh, M & Ms are in this jar kind of a way, not in like a mean way. Cause, uh, you know, I like Andrew. He's chill. It's a really chill guy. He's a chill guy. This has been a chill podcast. It's not, not every episode is a crazy thing. Sometimes we just, we just, uh, we just kind of chill. I like, I like it. I like to, uh, I like, I like, I like chilling.
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Speaker 3: Hey, how's it going? Who is this?
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Speaker 2: Uh, hey, what's up? This is, uh, the gecko guy.
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Speaker 1: Oh, no way.
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Speaker 2: How are you doing, man? I'm doing good. It's, it's, uh, Sometimes I make an Instagram story and I'm like, people can call in now, but other times I'm like, I don't want to bother everyone with an Instagram story. Let me just randomly call back a missed call from two days ago and see if they respond. And so this is, I guess this is that. Do you want to talk? Do you want to be on the podcast?
00:19:09
Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah, 100%. Let's do it. All right, cool.
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Speaker 2: What should I call you? I'm going to call you Devin.
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Speaker 1: I guess I'll use a fake name. My name's Parker.
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Speaker 2: Okay, we can do Parker. That's cool with me. What are you doing right now? It's always funny when I just call someone randomly and they pick up because I'm like, what are you doing right now that you picked up?
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I'm just chilling in my room. I was watching Avatar. I just got done watching the UFC. My favorite fighter won, Alexander Volkov. Huge shout out to him. I'm really happy right now. I'm in a very good mood, as you can probably tell.
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Speaker 2: What makes him your favorite fighter?
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Speaker 1: Well, okay, so one of the things that I think I really like about him was that Like, when he kind of first started fighting, he didn't really have a lot of, like, a lot of supporters. He had, like, this trilogy fight with this guy named Max Holloway, and the fans, like, loved Max Holloway. And so when Alexander Volkanovsky had his first fight, the fight was really close. So he didn't get a lot of fans. And for a while, he was kind of talking about how he had, like, this really, like, hard time, just in his life, I guess, just about how, like, He was a really nice guy. He's a genuinely terrific person, in my opinion. And he was kind of having this dilemma where he's doing the sport he loves, but all the fans hate him. And it wasn't even for his own fault. But I think what speaks to him or speaks to me the most about him was that he just kind of kept going with his attitude. He didn't turn on the fans. He didn't turn into a dick or anything like that. He just kind of kept doing what he thought was right. And I feel like in my own life, especially when I was in high school, I used to be a really like, I guess, I wouldn't say like a mean person, but I was really like obnoxious. And I kind of realized like looking back, like I wasn't really a good person to all my friends. And I kind of had this like epiphany, I guess, when I was in Berlin over the summer. I was doing like an internship there. And I don't know, the people in Berlin are just so, it's so incredible. And I kind of got into, I was able to like look at my life objectively, I guess. And it allowed me to, um, kind of like walk away from like my day-to-day life and kind of look at it in a different perspective. And so I kind of had this like huge thing, like where I was kind of like reaching out to people and kind of, um, you know, trying to be like a better person. And I actually, this is kind of funny. I know I'm talking, I'm going on this huge rant. No, go ahead.
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Speaker 2: There's a lot to get into.
00:22:08
Speaker 1: Have you seen the show called The Night of the Seven Kingdoms?
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Speaker 2: No, I have no idea what that is.
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Speaker 1: Oh, it's this excellent Game of Thrones spinoff. And so I kind of, I don't know. I kind of got a lot of inspiration from his character too. His name is Sir Duncan the Tall. And I don't want to spoil the show, but he just kind of, goes into these like really strange new experiences, I guess. And he still does what he thinks is right. And he sticks up for people who are in need. And I kind of like really took a lot out of that. And so I guess I'm just trying to become a better person. Like I started doing like Muay Thai, like I started training mixed martial arts. Like I started like getting off my phone, which was a really big thing. I don't know. I've just kind of been on this huge, like almost like life transformation, I guess. And I don't know, I kind of, I look to him as like inspiration and, um, like an example of like what it means to be like, I guess like a father, but also like a hard worker. And I don't know, I just took a lot out of, I took a lot out of his, um, his fights and his adversity and his like life story. And I don't know, I kind of try to apply that to my own life.
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Speaker 2: Now I'm curious, what did you, what was it about Berlin? that made you re-examine your life? Because there's definitely a European way of thinking about the world and life and whatnot that'll get you thinking about stuff.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think primarily it kind of allowed me to reset everything. It kind of allowed me to reinvent myself because I was in like my cohort and like all these people had never met me before besides one of my friends who's like my best friend. I'm not gonna say his name because I don't want, you know, but he's an awesome guy and I really, he's one of my best friends. And so I was just with Berlin and him.
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Speaker 3: Sorry?
00:24:17
Speaker 2: Oh, I said we'll call him Devin.
00:24:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, Devin.
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Speaker 3: Yes, Devin.
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Speaker 1: Perfect. So Devin and I were kind of in Berlin together and I guess Devin is kind of one of the people who... And I'm just so blessed to say this, I guess. And I feel so grateful to him. But he's kind of like one of those people who kind of sees the best in me, I guess. And... That kind of helped me sort of... Like... That kind of helped me try to become the best person I was. Because... Someone could see it in me before... Before maybe I could see it in myself.
00:24:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, you super knew.
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Speaker 3: And.
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Speaker 1: Yeah... And I don't know, like I, it just, I, I was able to, one of the big things I think I've realized I've had is I think I've had a really big phone addiction. Um, I was listening to one of your calls like the other day and one of the guys, one of the guys was talking about how, I forget his name, but he was kind of talking about how he wasn't using his phone anymore. And I feel like I was walking around like the city and I was just kind of like people watching and, you know, maybe I'd get like a, like a, you know, a nice tea or, um, sit down and have a drink by the, uh, by the river. And I kind of, I just would, I would just like think about stuff and this kind of let me sort of look at life, look at like my life trajectory objectively. And it had a really big impact. Like I was majoring in communications and, you know, it was something that I, and it always was something that I was like, you know, so growing up, um, sorry, I'm getting really deep here. I'm sorry. Um, growing up, I was kind of told that I wasn't really good at math and I kind of started to like give up at all the math that I had. And I kind of would just cheat on like my exams and stuff like that. But then over the summer, I kind of had another epiphany, I guess, was that like, I'm not really in school to like get good grades. I'm kind of in school to learn and try to like figure out who I am as a person. I mean, grades are important. Don't get me wrong, but you know, there's an aspect of kind of like developing, I guess, like who you are. And so I kind of realized that I was selling myself short and it was time for me to like put in my most, my best effort. And, you know, kind of looking at that, you know, UFC fighter guy, like Alexander Volkanovsky, I kind of, I just kind of tried, I just tried. And I like, I guess I just tried to be the best that I could be. And If I failed, I would speak to myself like how I would speak to my friend Josh. I would try to be forgiving of myself. If I failed, I'd be like, all right, Parker, it's all good, man. You make mistakes, and that's okay. I just kind of started speaking to myself more synthetically. It's okay to make mistakes, but what really matters is how you go about it after. It's not the... I don't know if you've ever seen this movie. It's called La Haine. It's like a French movie. It's really good.
00:27:19
Speaker 2: La Haine?
00:27:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:27:23
Speaker 2: La Haine.
00:27:25
Speaker 3: Oh, La Haine.
00:27:25
Speaker 1: 1995.
00:27:26
Speaker 2: Wow, this definitely looks like a movie. Very good movie. Look at this guy. This guy looks like this Eminem-looking guy.
00:27:33
Speaker 1: Indeed, yeah, yeah.
00:27:36
Speaker 2: What's La Haine about?
00:27:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's about these three... like kids who kind of live on the street a lot. And it's kind of like a commentary on like the, the dilemma between like, um, like police authority and like the day to day lives of like people they, that maybe look like they're committing crimes, but, but, but they're really just trying to like figure themselves.
00:28:03
Speaker 3: Out, I guess.
00:28:04
Speaker 1: And it's like a really good commentary on like, I don't know if you've seen the wire, um, I haven't.
00:28:11
Speaker 2: But I'm from Baltimore, so people are always talking to me about it.
00:28:15
Speaker 1: Oh, dude, you've got to watch The Wire.
00:28:17
Speaker 2: I love The Wire. Dude, I don't know what it is. I'm not good at serialized dramas. I'm too family guy, funny moments, compilation pilled. That's totally fair. I'll watch the first episode. Enough people have told me. I'll try to watch the first episode. It sounds like you're in a form.
00:28:53
Speaker 1: Of.
00:28:53
Speaker 2: You seem amped up to live your best life.
00:28:58
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm really happy hearing that, actually. That makes me very happy to hear it.
00:29:05
Speaker 2: You sound young.
00:29:06
Speaker 3: How old are you?
00:29:09
Speaker 2: I'm 21. Cool. Man, I'm happy for you. I think that's good. I think everything you're talking about is good. Trying to live your best life.
00:29:25
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:29:29
Speaker 2: I interrupted you. You were talking about this movie. It had an effect on you of some sort.
00:29:36
Speaker 1: Um, which movie was that?
00:29:40
Speaker 3: Talking about oh.
00:29:41
Speaker 1: Lehane Lehane yeah Lehane yeah no I I always just found it to be to be a really good movie um I kind of saw I'm like I'm so happy that I I've been trying to get on this or try to talk to you for like years and um it's just so funny that it just like randomly happened today I think that's pretty.
00:29:59
Speaker 2: Awesome It's in French.
00:30:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is in French. Do you speak French?
00:30:04
Speaker 2: I listen to it.
00:30:06
Speaker 1: Unfortunately not. I wish I could, though. If I could speak French, that would be awesome.
00:30:11
Speaker 3: Wow. Cool.
00:30:12
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know if I'll watch The Wire, but I'll watch La Haine. This looks cool. How did you even... It is a very cool movie. This is off-topic in some sense, but you were born at least... 10 years, 10, my math is wrong, but how'd you find out this movie exists?
00:30:34
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Therein lies a tale. Um, basically I, uh, I was in, so my high school I went to, I had like this IB film class and we would analyze like a bunch of different movies from like different eras. And, uh, one of the movies we had to review was Lahane. And I thought that's a very good movie. I very much enjoyed it. Hmm.
00:30:59
Speaker 3: Hmm.
00:30:59
Speaker 2: So you're back from Berlin.
00:31:03
Speaker 1: Yes.
00:31:05
Speaker 2: And what's next for you, Parker?
00:31:11
Speaker 1: That is that is a good question. You know, I'm really I'm really trying to get some of my habits better. Like I'm I I'm not trying. I used to smoke a lot of weed. And I still smoke weed now. I go to University of Colorado. So obviously, there's a decent amount of people who engage in the Mary Jane. But yeah, I've been trying to have better habits. But I also noticed that sometimes when I go down these rabbit holes of self-improvement, which I think I might be on right now, I kind of I maybe it's like I try to escape some of my faults or I try to like I'm running from something, I guess. And so I've been really like I've been trying to like reflect a lot more and still be a better person and mostly like try to love myself more. Like I kind of had it. I was not a very like I don't really know the best way to put it. Growing up, like a lot of the people who like I found mentors kind of like turned out not to be like be the best people occasionally. And so it kind of stunted my, like, emotional, like, confidence, I guess, and, like, confidence in, like, being myself. So I kind of tried to, I guess I'm trying to, like, you know, have, like, more, like, I guess, like, more, like, self-love, I guess. And I kind of realized, like, I feel the best about myself when I'm helping others. So I try to do that. So, like, for example, I, like, do Muay Thai, which is, like, a, like if you like speak, like, um, if you're watching like the UFC, all the striking that they do is primarily like Muay Thai. Cause you use like knees, elbows and all that kind of stuff. And I've been doing it for a pretty long time. And I don't know. I try to like mentor the young, the young guys, like, or the young, like, uh, like athletes and stuff like that. The guys who's like, just started out. And like, cause I, I try to remember what it was, what it felt like for me being a beginner. Um, and I try to like, you know, guide them through it. And if, you know, try to always give them support and like tips and stuff like that. Because, you know, a lot of times people join Muay Thai and this was kind of my experience. Like I joined Muay Thai because like I was at a party and I almost got like, like beat up. And I like, I felt so like ashamed of myself. I felt so bad about myself. I was like, you know what? I can't, if I'm like with someone I love and if they're trying to hurt them, like I gotta be able to like, at least like protect them.
00:33:43
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? How did you almost get beat up at this party?
00:33:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did.
00:33:48
Speaker 3: I did.
00:33:49
Speaker 1: It was really, it was really, it was really, uh, not the best memory, I guess. Like, it was my first high school party, and I was hanging out with all the kids that I thought were really cool, and, like, two of them, like, started taking on me, and then they were, like, just, so I just, like, laughed, and I was like, man, like, this was really disappointing. Like, I was so, so much looking forward to beat these guys, or, like, meet these guys, but I guess they weren't at all what I thought they were like. But, yeah, like, I feel like a lot of times people join Muay Thai for some of those reasons, and A lot of times people might be looking for community, and I feel like you kind of have to guide them in the right direction, so to speak.
00:34:27
Speaker 2: And what did you say? You said you changed your major? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:34:34
Speaker 1: I changed it to economics. Okay.
00:34:37
Speaker 2: What are you hoping to do with economics?
00:34:41
Speaker 1: I don't know. I honestly don't really know what I want to do after college yet. I've been thinking a lot about doing the Peace Corps. Yeah, I've always thought that was pretty interesting. I guess kind of what economics, I think, is the reason for me being the best major. Sorry, I'm fumbling over my words. I think one of the reasons why it's the best major for me is is because I kind of, like, get to learn how the world works. And I always thought, like, I always try to have been, like, a very curious person, you know what I mean? Like, I love learning about new things. I'm kind of a nerd in that sense. And I just, like, love learning new things and learning about how the world works and how, like, money flows through different countries and learning about, you know, how to, how, like, countries build, like, economies and all that kind of stuff. I always thought that was really interesting. And so I always, and I was kind of thinking, like, you know what? if I'm learning about something interesting and, you know, I learn like how to, you know, do important skills like coding or Python or learn, you know, learn how to do some good math as well as like other stuff as well. I always thought that could be like a good, um, a good way to get like a job, I guess, you know what I mean? Make myself useful in some, in some ways. And then I can use those skills maybe to, to help other people, which is kind of like what I was thinking about with, um, doing, uh, uh, Peace Corps. I also really like traveling, too. So, you know, that's an added bonus, I guess.
00:36:11
Speaker 3: Man.
00:36:13
Speaker 2: I'm happy for you, Parker. You sound like you got a good life ahead of you.
00:36:19
Speaker 1: Thank you. I mean, it's not perfect. Like, I do have, like, a lot of struggles I go through from time to time. Like, I always kind of had this, like, idea that, like, everybody that I thought had it all figured out, like, had, like, lived, like, perfect lives and, like, I'm really grateful for everything I have and all that kind of stuff. But, you know, I also have my own struggles. And, you know, sometimes I try to keep that in my mind, I guess, because, like, say, like, someone, like, kind of gives me a, or, like, cuts me off in traffic or, you know, maybe makes, like, an off-color remark towards me, like, as a joke, but maybe I take it serious. Like, I always just try to give people the benefit of the doubt because I've noticed, like, whenever I messed up, it's never personal. Like it's, it's, I mean, sometimes maybe if I'm like angry or upset and if I say something, I don't mean, then it's, then it's something different. But I've always noticed, like if I like, you know, maybe if someone says hi to me and I just kind of look at them, but I have my AirPods and so I didn't hear them and stuff like that. I always try to give people the benefit of the doubt in those regards. Cause I'm like, Oh, he probably didn't see me. Cause I know in my experience, at least like the majority of the times, like a little thing like that happens. It's always just cause I'm like blundering around or, you know, not paying attention or something like that.
00:37:34
Speaker 2: Right, right. There's a, there's a, it's not a, I guess a phrase, there's a phrase for that. It's called reading positive intent.
00:37:48
Speaker 3: You ever heard of that? I have not.
00:37:51
Speaker 2: It's like, like, okay, sometimes, you know, sometimes someone will be like, oh, this, I tried to say hi to this guy, but, He had his headphones in and he just ignored me and, you know, fucking piece of shit. But it's like you're kind of practicing a form of reading positive intent, which is another way of saying giving the benefit of the doubt of just being like, oh, they probably just didn't see me. And it's funny because even if you're wrong, you're still, I think it's a better term. default way to go through the world because like i mean some people have it the kind of the opposite where like their brain has been conditioned to um consistently read a negative intent um yeah you know even about the even yeah even about themselves uh and so i think it's a form of this is like real therapy shit but it's like it's a form of like brain conditioning and it sounds like you're trying to condition yourself you had to read positive intent of people which is good and look I'll say this I think that this is a good share I'm glad you shared this because you're I don't know maybe your optimism will rub off on the people you know Oh, that would be so awesome. good to, there's something, man, I don't know. There's something about like, um, like hearing a guy be, uh, like optimistic where I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm a little jazzed up. I'm like, Oh, I gotta, you know, stop smoking weed and all these other, all these other things. So it's a good share. It's a good share.
00:39:55
Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, I always kind of like, I guess, so I had like a, actually this happened when I was in Berlin. I kind of had this like, like day long crisis where I was just kind of like thinking about how bad the world's getting right now. I mean, I don't, sorry again, I don't want to sound like really depressing or anything like that, but I kind of like, Yeah, like, I kind of, like, saw a bunch of stuff, like, all the bunch of shit that, like, Trump's doing and, sorry, I don't want to get political, and how, like, there's this rise of, like, loneliness and, like, kind of animosity between, like, men and women because men are told online that, like, girls will only like them if they're, like, 6'5 and super rich and girls have told other girls or ladies have told other ladies that, like, guys are, like, all, like, really just, like, assholes and stuff like that. And I kind of had this realization that, um, we kind of live in like two humans live in like two separate universes right now. And they're so different. And you have this one universe of like in-person face-to-face communication, right? Like you just, you know, walk down the street, say hi to your neighbor and you're, you go back home after you're walking. You're like, man, like, you know what? All the people around me are really nice. But then you go online, you go on Twitter and everyone's just yelling at each other. Everyone's like, just like ruthless. And I just kind of like step back from that a little bit. And like, I feel like if you just walk around and breathe in the air and meet all the people and you realize that like, we're so much more alike than we are unalike. And, um, you know, like we've had like, as, as much as, you know, these times are getting a little bit tricky with inflation and, you know, cost of living and obviously the, you know, the situations in the middle East as well. Like there's a lot of stuff to be really pessimistic about as well as AI as well. But, you know, I was kind of thinking like, I'm really inspired by people like Zoran Mandani and, um, you know, uh, uh, Abdul outside and all those, you know, these new era of Democrats. And, and, and I really think that like, well, one thing I think they, that I really like is that they don't really try to make any like divides. Like they're accepting of all people, no matter like what you, what, what your skin color is and, or, you know, who you like to go home with at night. And it's like, I kind of look at that and I think these are people who are genuinely trying to make other people's lives better. And as long as there are people who are actively trying to make other people's lives better, then that gives me hope. And if they're in a fight scene, like there's nobody in my community or in my friend group or in my area that's not doing that, then I'll step up. I'll be the one who tries to, like, do more good than, you know, or tries to fix some of the things.
00:42:50
Speaker 3: Like, I don't know.
00:42:51
Speaker 1: I always feel like, I don't know. I don't really know where I was going with that. But, you know, I feel like, I guess, like, to sum it all up, I guess I try to be the change I see in the world. And I'm not perfect at it, but, you know, I feel like if you try a little bit each day, you know, eventually maybe, you know, change happens slowly, I guess, then it happens all of a sudden, at least in my experience.
00:43:11
Speaker 3: So, I don't know.
00:43:13
Speaker 2: You're very hope-pilled.
00:43:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, I try to be. You know what I mean? That's good. I think there's a lot of things to be hopeful in.
00:43:22
Speaker 3: The world right now.
00:43:23
Speaker 2: No, I agree with you. I particularly very much agree with you on the two different worlds thing, which is that it's so... I mean, it's hard because... like we live in the digital world and stuff. And even like, uh, you know, like I'll delete Instagram for a while and I'll feel weirdly isolated. Um, yeah, but I don't like, it's really true. It's really trippy. It's not, uh, good, but then it's, um, you know, yeah. If you want to go online and, uh, scroll through the, you know, it's a conversation we've had, we've had a lot, but, uh, Yeah, if you want to go online and scroll through the black mirror of death, it'll show you death. Yeah, I've said this a bunch, but I'll just be walking down the street and you see real life. It's weird little things. I was on the subway and I just saw this.
00:44:40
Speaker 2: Woman be like, say to some other lady like, oh, I like your shirt. It's really cool. Where'd you get it? And then they said something and they laughed and I was like, oh, okay, we're still doing it. You know what I mean? We're still doing it. Or you see like two people holding hands and one of them has an iced coffee and they're just talking about whatever and you're like, alright, this is CNN will never report on that. CNN will never be like, two people held hands and drank coffee and it was nice. But that's happening. But that's like what's happening in the world a lot. But you know, it's about what you want to look at and.
00:45:32
Speaker 1: Focus on.
00:45:39
Speaker 2: And whatnot. It feels nice as hell to not be on the internet. Lahane. I'm going to watch Lahane. You definitely should. It's very good. It seems like a lot of people who made it died while it was being made.
00:46:03
Speaker 3: What?
00:46:05
Speaker 1: I have not heard about that.
00:46:06
Speaker 2: Whoa, hey, do you know who made the... Well, okay, I'm only saying that because it says the film is... Yeah, I'm only saying that because it says the film is dedicated to those who died while it was being made.
00:46:21
Speaker 1: Oh, I think that might be... I honestly don't know what that could mean.
00:46:28
Speaker 3: Wait. Oh, oh, oh, oh.
00:46:31
Speaker 2: Okay, I think.
00:46:34
Speaker 2: Wait, I'm dumb. I don't think the people making it... I don't think it's dedicated to the people making it who died. I think it's dedicated to other people who died while it was being made unrelated to its production.
00:46:50
Speaker 3: Maybe.
00:46:51
Speaker 2: I don't know.
00:46:52
Speaker 1: The movie kind of makes a lot of... A big theme of the movie is police brutality, so... I think maybe that might be talking to about people who have been victims of police brutality.
00:47:11
Speaker 2: Hey, you want to know something? I think this is cool, too. You know who does the music?
00:47:18
Speaker 3: No, who?
00:47:19
Speaker 2: Assassin.
00:47:20
Speaker 1: Assassin?
00:47:25
Speaker 2: It says music by Assassin.
00:47:27
Speaker 3: Huh.
00:47:31
Speaker 2: Assassin is a French... Assassin is a French hardcore rap group formed in 1985 by Rockin' Squat and Solo. That's awesome. That's such a fucking great name for a rap group. Not The Assassins. That's kind of lame. The Assassins, that's kind of lame. Just Assassin? That's great. That's so tough. It's a duo.
00:48:01
Speaker 1: They're like.
00:48:02
Speaker 2: What's that rap duo?
00:48:04
Speaker 3: Crap.
00:48:06
Speaker 2: Outkast, maybe? No, Killer Mike and.
00:48:14
Speaker 2: Fuck. Why don't I... This is just my brain. What's the name of that rap group?
00:48:22
Speaker 3: I don't know.
00:48:23
Speaker 2: They're the only... I don't know a lot about music. They're the only... Rap duo, I can think. Well, the Insane Clown Posse is two people. Run the Jewels. That's what I was thinking. I've run the Jewels. Those are the two rap groups I know that only have two people. But look at this. It's a rap group. Can you call it a group if it's only two people? I guess they're already doing that. I guess the verdict has been.
00:48:46
Speaker 3: I don't know.
00:48:49
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess so. I guess a group is two or more people.
00:48:52
Speaker 3: I don't know.
00:48:56
Speaker 2: Rock and school. That's a cool name.
00:48:58
Speaker 3: Wow.
00:48:59
Speaker 2: They're doing cool.
00:49:00
Speaker 3: French.
00:49:01
Speaker 2: They're doing cool. Other countries are, they're good at being, doing cool stuff.
00:49:06
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:49:06
Speaker 3: So I, you know, I, I kind of agree.
00:49:10
Speaker 1: They're like cinema, Paradiso, I think, or Paris. I don't know how to say that. That's a good movie. I like to watch. The Germans have really good techno music. All these different countries have some really cool attributes about them, in my opinion. Parker. Yes.
00:49:33
Speaker 2: Let's see. It's Saturday at 7 p.m. Are you going to do something? Are you going to go? Well, I'll end the call soon. I'll let you go soon. But what are you going to do after this? Do you have any plans?
00:49:52
Speaker 1: That is a good question. So I'm in Colorado right now. So it is currently 5.53. I'm thinking I could do a couple things. The fraternity I'm in had a party a couple days ago.
00:50:05
Speaker 3: Sorry, yesterday.
00:50:08
Speaker 1: So waking up this morning has been a little challenging.
00:50:11
Speaker 3: But you know what?
00:50:12
Speaker 1: I think I'm just going to keep drinking some water, trying to recover. And then I think I'm going to go to the dining hall and get some food because I'm kind of hungry. Then I might go to the gym. And then I'm going to ask my friends if they want to. Yeah, I'm going to ask my friends if they want to get a beer tonight and see if I can chop it up with them a little bit.
00:50:33
Speaker 2: That's nice. You have a nice life, Parker.
00:50:38
Speaker 1: Thank you. I try. I try.
00:50:40
Speaker 2: Thank you for sharing this. I'm going to watch Lahane.
00:50:47
Speaker 3: Thank you.
00:50:48
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the people of the computer before we go?
00:50:55
Speaker 3: Yes.
00:50:56
Speaker 1: One thing. Here's my advice. I haven't really accomplished much. I've failed a lot. But I would say just show up. you know, if, if you're trying to work on going to the gym or, you know, doing something like that, just show up to the gym. You don't even have to work out. Just, just try a little bit. And if you fail, that's totally fine. Like try to, try to be more, try to speak to you as if you're speaking like your mom or your best friend and try to give yourself some, some grace and sympathy and, um, try to be, try to be the, be nice to other people. No, you don't never know what somebody else is going through. And, um, You know, one small thing you might think you can do or one small thing you do could totally, totally change someone else's life for the better. And I always try to remember that.
00:51:45
Speaker 2: Hey, thanks, Parker. Have a nice rest of your night and the end of your life.
00:51:51
Speaker 1: Thank you, man. You too. Have a good one.
00:51:53
Speaker 2: Take care, man. Thanks for answering this call very randomly.
00:51:56
Speaker 1: Of course.
00:51:57
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:51:57
Speaker 1: Bye.
00:51:58
Speaker 3: Bye, Parker.
00:52:03
Speaker 2: That was Parker. What a sweet guy Parker is. Yeah, he's a sweet guy. Hopeful, you know. That's good. That's good. I'm glad, you know, I'm glad that some people have hope. It's good. You know, he's in college. He's getting his life started. And he's got hope. And he's watching old movies. What year is it right now?
00:52:42
Speaker 3: 2026?
00:52:42
Speaker 2: Lehane. Man, can you imagine you make a movie called Lehane and then 31 years later a guy still watches it. This was made two years before I was born. And people are watching it. Lehane. Um, Wendy Eyed of the Times. It doesn't say, uh, a city. Like, it's not like a Los Angeles Times or a New York Times, just the Times. Says, Lahane is one... This is weird. Okay, it says one, but the O in one has a parenthesis. You know how, like, like, uh, If someone's being quoted. And like they didn't say the exact word. But you need the word for the context. They'll put it in brackets. Do you know what I'm saying? You guys know what I'm saying. For some reason. In this quote. From Wendy Ide of the Times. Reviewing Lehane. Just the O. Is in brackets. Does that mean that she said. That her like. her literal, her verbatim quote was one of the most blisteringly effective pieces of urban cinema ever made? Why is the one in parentheses? Or brackets? Anyway, she said it was one of the most blisteringly effective pieces of urban cinema ever made. Lahayn. Oh, uh.
00:54:41
Speaker 2: Let's see. Oh, it was produced by LeStudio Canal Plus.
00:54:53
Speaker 3: That's, uh....
00:54:56
Speaker 2: You know, shout out Lehane. Shout out Lehane. I don't know why I'm... I don't know if there's anything else to say about Lehane, but we'll watch it. I'm not going to read the plot summary. I'll actually watch the movie. Hello, folks. This is Lyle. I don't know why I forgot my own name. This is the end part of the podcast where I am going to read one Gekmail. I'm going to read one Gekmail. I'm not going to say I'll read two because then.
00:55:36
Speaker 2: If I say I'll read two and then I only read one, people will get disappointed. But if I say I'll read one, then I decide, you know what, let's read two. Then it's a good thing. And then if I say I'll read one and then I only read one, then you deliver on your promise. I haven't been getting a lot of geck mails lately. If you sent me one at any time in the last... If you sent me one and it hasn't been read in the podcast, send it again. I've lost track of everything. It's therapygeckomail at gmail.com. It's therapygeckomail at gmail.com.
00:56:22
Speaker 3: Okay.
00:56:23
Speaker 2: Let's read one geck mail to end the show. Alright, this is from... This is from Texas.
00:56:41
Speaker 3: Hi, Gecko.
00:56:41
Speaker 2: I would like to be anonymous, so call me Texas. I believe I am an extrovert trapped in an introvert's body. As a kid, I was very outgoing and loud. I would get in trouble all the time in elementary school for talking too much or being hyper. All this changed when I moved to a new city in starting middle school. I was excited to move because this new city was bigger and seemed more fun, but my outgoing and talkative personality suddenly went away and I didn't understand why I couldn't just talk to people the way I used to. I had trouble making friends, and if I did make friends, it would not last very long. Eventually, I just gave up and spent the rest of my school years mainly alone. I am 22 now, And to this day, I want to talk to people. I have an interest in getting to know people who seem interesting or who like the same things I like. But when I want to talk, I feel the words won't come out. I've been diagnosed with social anxiety in the past. And I have gotten better at talking to people. But I am not where I want to be. I just wish I could be the same kid I used to be. I feel like that's what I was meant to be. Even if I was annoying, I don't care. Maybe my brain is trying to stop myself from being embarrassing. I miss being carefree and not freezing up to talk to people. Anyway, I love listening to your podcast. And it would be so cool if you read this. Live life, breathe air. Stay cool, Gak, Texas. Huh.
00:58:29
Speaker 3: Hmm.
00:58:31
Speaker 1: Hmm. Hmm.
00:58:33
Speaker 2: This is a tough one, Texas. Trying to think here. I've definitely dealt with an issue like that. I've definitely dealt with issues like this before. A hundred percent. Not so much of like, oh, I used to be this way and I don't know what happened to me. I mean, I've dealt with versions of that too, but like certain social situations I'll get into and I'll be like, what the fuck? I thought I knew how to exist. And it's not even that the social situation is that intimidating. It's just uncomfortable or unfamiliar. And I'm like, what the fuck? I thought I knew how to exist. What happened? I know how to exist. What's that Jacob... I cannot pronounce his last name. But it's that clip where he goes like, you are a regular guy. You can exist in a room. You know, I'm giving myself that speech.
00:59:27
Speaker 1: Um.
00:59:30
Speaker 2: I understand the frustration of this emailer, for sure. Of just being like, fuck, I know I'm... Why is my fucking body and... Why is my physical body acting in such incongruence with who I know myself to be? Down to my feelings. You know, I'm feeling nervous. I'm like, what the fuck? I don't get nervous. Why am I nervous? It's frustrating. Do I have a solution? Of course not.
01:00:03
Speaker 1: But... Maybe.
01:00:05
Speaker 2: I don't know. What's the solution?
01:00:08
Speaker 1: Hmm.
01:00:11
Speaker 2: Hmm. Your brain is trying to stop yourself from being embarrassing. Maybe it's a fucking... Let me reread this.
01:00:21
Speaker 1: Uh....
01:00:25
Speaker 2: I gave up and spent the rest of my years alone. I had trouble... I'm 22 now, and to this day, I want to talk to people. I have an interest in getting to... You know what? I mean, it's... I don't know. I'm going to repeat the same thing that I've said. I've said it a million times on this show, but it's kind of the same answer.
01:00:45
Speaker 1: If I have.
01:00:46
Speaker 2: If I'm... If relating to the issue is not enough, and there needs to be some form of solution, I guess my form of solution would be the same one that I've been talking about for a while.
01:00:56
Speaker 3: Which is like.
01:00:59
Speaker 2: You're not comfortable. Whatever situation you're in, you're just not comfortable. And you build comfort by exposure over time. So you just need to find a community of people or a place to go and just show up. I've said a bunch of that. But find a community, a place to go, and just be there a lot. Just continue being there. Just continue physically being there. And then I think maybe your body has this thing where it's like recognizing that it's not comfortable. And then after extended exposure in a place, your body will start to be like, oh, I know this guy. I can talk to this guy. But when you're brand new and you're not, I mean, when you're brand new to a social situation, Then yeah, your body's going to be like, what the fuck? I don't know these people. And you're like, no, no, no. It's like your body is like a bouncer. And you're trying to tell your body, you're like, no, I'm cool. I'm on the list. And then the bouncer, your body is like, who do you know here? You don't know anyone here. And you're like, no, I'm cool. I'm on the list. And it doesn't matter. And that's the thing. Your body, the central nervous system is a dick bouncer. The central nervous system doesn't care that you're on the list. The central nervous system is like. You don't know anyone here.
01:02:34
Speaker 3: So.
01:02:36
Speaker 2: And you can't argue with the central nervous system. So I'm not even going to say some corny shit. I'm not even going to be like. Remember you're on the list. I'm just going to you know. Show up to the club a couple more times. Then the bouncer will be like. Oh Texas it's you. I know you come right on in. But you got to build that familiarity.
01:02:54
Speaker 1: Okay.
01:02:56
Speaker 2: Um, thanks for emailing about this, Texas. I hope that you, I hope you, I hope you find, um, I hope you develop enough comfortability. Cause that once you, cause you know how it goes, man, you get comfortable and then you're like, all right, I knew, I knew, I knew how to exist. I knew I was a real person. Um, that's it. That's, that's my, um, that's the last Geck mail I'll read. I like just doing the one. Send me a Gecko mail. TherapyGeckoMail at gmail.com. And that's it. I don't have anything else to say or do or be. And so I'm going to go. Thanks for listening to this podcast. And I'll see you guys on the next episode. Geck bless.
01:03:51
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Hi, if you record your name and reason for calling, I'll see if this person is available.
00:00:06
Speaker 2: Hi, this is the gecko. I'm calling to see if you want to be on the gecko show. Thanks.
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Speaker 3: Hello.
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Speaker 1: Hello.
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Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
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Speaker 2: What's up? What's up, man? What's your name?
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Speaker 3: My name is Andrew. What's your name?
00:00:26
Speaker 2: Andrew. My name is Lyle. I do the gecko show.
00:00:32
Speaker 1: No shit.
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Speaker 3: I never got on the phone with you, dude.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you called me two days ago, and so I'm calling you back.
00:00:46
Speaker 3: Oh, nice. What are you doing?
00:00:52
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I'll go first. It's going all right. It's evening time. It's Saturday. I'm alive. I'm trying my best. And, you know, we have less than a month until Grand Theft Auto 6 comes out. So, that'll keep me going for a while.
00:01:27
Speaker 3: How about you? Right, right. You know, honestly, man, just waiting for our holidays to be over, you know. We're all stacked up on work and never ends, you know. Can't complain about work. I, uh, recently, uh, recently got into some stuff with, uh, with some law here, with the law, and man, it's honestly just a bunch of mind, it's mind-blowing, you know, on all the stuff that they're, uh, that they're trying to do, you know. So, So I got arrested a few days ago. And they're trying to get me on the old charge that I had actually taken care of. And they're saying that I never took care of it. And they're saying that I was never dismissed. So now they want me to go back to court at the end of the year. And I'm like, you know, why is it going to take this long for her? Okay.
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Speaker 2: Would talking about... I mean, this is... I'm recording this for the podcast. I mean, is talking about this bad for your case?
00:02:51
Speaker 3: No, no. It's not even nothing serious, to be honest. It is what it is. It's something... It's nothing serious. There's nothing that they could do about it. Or even if I talk about it, you know?
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 3: It's just, yeah, it's like an old case from, for so many years ago. And I guess now they finally brought it up and they said that I never went to court, but I never went to court for it and getting dismissed. And I don't know what's going on now.
00:03:23
Speaker 2: So what's your, so do you have to, you have to go back to court?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to go back actually in December. towards the end of the month of December. And they said that I had to go to court to see what they're going to give me. And I told them, you know, I don't know what's even going to happen here.
00:03:44
Speaker 2: How old is the case?
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Speaker 3: About three and a half years old.
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Speaker 2: Okay. Do you have to like, do you have to go to another state?
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Speaker 3: No, no. It's in the same state. Same city, you know, same little town.
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Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 3: So, I'm trying to figure out what's going to go on there. That's really been bugging me, you know, because, um, I never really tried to get myself into trouble, you know, and now I feel like, you know, I got to wait for the dang law to, you know, take care of this. It's going to take me two months now to get this over with.
00:04:24
Speaker 2: Why did it, uh, uh, okay, I, you know, I don't want you to get too detailed. I don't want you getting, uh, any trouble or anything, but why, why did it take, why did it like reappear?
00:04:38
Speaker 3: I guess, um, so this area where I'm from, and I think this is an area, actually, um, I think they do roundup and I'm guessing, uh, they do background checks on people with veins, you know, see if they have any outstanding warrants or outstanding pain cases, I'm guessing, you know, I'm assuming, and I guess my name was on there, and I didn't know, and they came and got me, dude, from work, actually.
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Speaker 2: Oh, from work?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they came and got me from work. They didn't wait for me to be off to work. Like, they came and got me from work. Oh, wow. Yeah, and I was like, what's going on, you know? And they told me I had a warrant for my arrest, and I was like, what? You know what I'm saying? They set the charge and I'm like, dude, this was taken care of like years ago. I was like, how is this even possible? I don't know. They said, well, that's the law, buddy. They said, put your hands on your back. And I was like, dude, are you serious? I was like, why did it take so long for you to come get me then?
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Speaker 2: Great. But there's like a, isn't there like a double jeopardy? I'm not going to be your lawyer. I'm not a good lawyer. Um, but, uh, if you have a lawyer, I was going to say, yeah, if you have a lawyer, tell him, I said this, if you have a lawyer and you tell him that I said this and he goes, oh, that sounds like a sub, then you should fire that lawyer. Cause he should probably know this, but, um, isn't there like a double jeopardy thing where like, you can't be arrested twice for the same thing.
00:06:25
Speaker 3: And you know what and honestly you are right about that you know you are right about that because i've already been arrested for discharge once and then i'm getting re-arrested for discharge again after it was ready to take care of you know so it's it's honestly very mind-blowing if you really think about it you know and i think it's just a i think honestly it's just a money game you know like they just want to make money off somebody because uh or they want to make money off all the people that can actually right now have some, some swords. I'm assuming towards the end of the holidays, they want to get a bonus or, or something like that, you know? And, but that's not right either for them to be doing that, you know?
00:07:06
Speaker 2: Do you, do you have a lawyer?
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Speaker 3: Not yet. I mean, it's not serious. It's not a serious charge for me to get a lawyer, but it doesn't hurt for me to get one either as well. You know, it's like, that would probably be the best option for me too, you know, just to be on the safe side.
00:07:24
Speaker 2: Uh, probably. I mean, well, you get, I mean, you get one anyway, right? They have like a public defender.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah. Yeah. They gave me one. Yeah. They gave me one. They appointed me one. Uh, and, uh, she told me, she was like, you need to call back in December. Cause I'm looking into this case. Well, I told her, I said, nothing even serious, you know, that's just a, that's an old charge from a long time ago, you know? I had to pay like $ 1, 000 to get out of jail for this damn charge. And that was a cash bond. It wasn't even 10% or nothing else. That's what they wanted.
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Speaker 2: What's your life... Well, okay, so... Tell me about what life is going on that is being disrupted by this. How's your life going in general? You mentioned... You mentioned getting through the holidays. I want to get to how your life is going, but I'm also curious, are we in the holidays? Does Halloween count as the holidays? I always think of the holidays as Christmas, November. Does Halloween count?
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Speaker 3: In my perspective of you, honestly, bro, I don't really celebrate Halloween, so... everybody's not gonna say they have the same answer as me either you know they have their own opinion but i really think halloween is not a it's not a holiday you know but other people say it is a holiday so i don't know it's just kind of one of those things you don't i guess they have their different opinions on them you know and honestly in my eyes it's not a holiday you know it's more thanksgiving than christmas or new year's you know you know and uh But, you know, it's just, man, besides this, whatever's going on here, you know, this sort of thing in my life, man, it's just, my life's been real busy, real good, you know? For me, being real young, man, I've been working since I was, like, 15 years old. I had a full-time job. And it's always been, um, always been 12-hour days, you know? Mm-hmm. And it's just been, uh, I'm not complaining about it because, you know, I thank God every day that I get to wake up and I have a job to go to, you know. And I'm not here at home and just slouched up somewhere, you know. And so I thank God for that much, you know. At least he keeps me busy throughout my week and weekends and stuff. So, you know, it's it's just one of those things too, where, yeah, it's exhausting, but as well, you can't really complain about it because, you know, you don't work, you don't make no money, you don't eat, you know, so it's just the way I see it, you know.
00:10:12
Speaker 2: Respect, respect, respect. Do you, do you have a family?
00:10:19
Speaker 3: Actually, no, I'm a single guy, you know. I have no kids or nothing, so, you know, I just have my brothers, you know, my mother and father and stuff like that, you know, but that's beside me, you know, I just, I go on about my life, you know, it's just, I don't, I'm not looking for a family right now, but, I mean, if God gives me a family, you know, in the future, then, I mean, that's what he's been giving, you know, but. I think honestly right now I'm not even ready to have to get into a relationship right now I'm just real too focused on work and I don't know it's just don't get me wrong I do want to get into a relationship with a female but it's just I guess you could call me a workaholic I'm always working dude so I mean I really have no time to to go out and explore you know I guess if that makes.
00:11:13
Speaker 2: Sense that makes sense that makes sense It's a lot, you got a lot going on.
00:11:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, for sure. And it's, you know, and honestly, I wouldn't trade it for nothing else, you know. It's, it's real, I wouldn't trade it for nothing else because I could lose what I have now, you know, being real busy the way I am. You know, it's, I get real bored, you know, just not doing nothing at home, you know. I always got to do something, you know. I'm outside, you know, and cutting the trees or men. I gotta do something, you know? And just, that's the way I've always been, you know? It's just the way I was, that's how I was raised and trained, you know? Oh, I don't know.
00:11:59
Speaker 2: You gotta, I, I mean, you gotta do some, if you don't do anything, you, uh, the whole idea of the, the, the idle hands are the devil's, uh, the devil, the devil uses them to, uh, get people to, kill themselves.
00:12:17
Speaker 3: You know right right.
00:12:19
Speaker 2: That whole thing that's a real thing that's a real thing.
00:12:23
Speaker 3: Oh yeah for sure you know uh but uh i'll let you go but i'm gonna go ahead and uh go to town get some dinner.
00:12:35
Speaker 2: You're gonna wait you said you're gonna go you're gonna.
00:12:37
Speaker 3: Go where uh get some dinner in town oh okay cool wanna uh buy at a restaurant Cool.
00:12:46
Speaker 2: What, what kind of, what, what kind of, uh, cuisine are you aiming for? What kind of cuisine are you going to try to get?
00:12:54
Speaker 3: You know, I was really thinking, uh, sounds funny, but I was probably, I was probably going out for a salad, dude. Conceited salad with, you know, I already ate too many, uh, too many stuff during this week, you know, like chicken and, you know, beef and stuff like that. I kind of want to really go for like a salad kind of, you.
00:13:14
Speaker 2: Know, something chill. Are you, are you going to get, I was going to ask, this was actually my next question, is are you going to get chicken on the salad? Are you going to get any kind of meat on the salad?
00:13:25
Speaker 3: Maybe just ham, preferably, you know, preferably ham. Ham.
00:13:30
Speaker 2: Okay, cool.
00:13:31
Speaker 3: Yeah. All right. That's, yeah, go ahead, go ahead. It's actually pretty good, dude, because they put lettuce, they put the ham, and then they put like the, you know, tomatoes or, You know, they put cucumbers and bacon and a bunch of other stuff on it. You know, you could put chicken on it.
00:13:49
Speaker 2: Yeah. But you don't want it to be too heavy. You don't want it to be too heavy.
00:13:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. I'd rather just do the ham, you know. Yeah.
00:13:57
Speaker 2: Well, you know what? Yeah, that sounds stressful. It sounds stressful, all that stuff. But I'm glad that, like, in between everything, you get to have a nice salad, too. That's good, too.
00:14:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. Can't ever go wrong with the cello, man, every once in a while, you know?
00:14:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes, uh, it's like, it's the little things in life. Sometimes, uh, you know, if I'm going through a lot, I'll drink a, uh, a diet root beer, and I'll be like, this is why I got something, you know?
00:14:38
Speaker 3: Right, yeah. You know, uh, I've actually been stuck on those, uh, Coke Zeros and Sprite and stuff like that you know and you know honestly man it's kind of weird if you really think about it because I've gotten used to a drink so much I've drank regular drinks and I'm kind of getting disgusted by the regular drinks now you know yeah.
00:15:01
Speaker 2: That's what happens that's what happens you're like I can't believe the people regularly drink regular Coke that's not true I'll have a regular Coke once in a while and I'll be like wow this is incredible But it's too much to do all the time.
00:15:18
Speaker 3: Real sweet, right? Yeah, I guess you never really notice until you change it up, you know?
00:15:25
Speaker 2: It's true, you never notice until you change it up.
00:15:28
Speaker 1: That's life.
00:15:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's very true.
00:15:33
Speaker 2: All right, Andrew, I'll let you get your salad. Thanks for sharing. Thanks for talking in the show. Is there anything else you want to... Do you have any final words for... for the people that you want to share before we go?
00:15:47
Speaker 3: Uh, all I gotta say is, you know, um, y'all keep working and, you know, never give up and always aim for, for the best you got in life. You know, never, never let nobody put you down and always have a, uh, solid mind to whatever you're doing and always be motivated. And you've got things for everything that he gives you and, and also everything that he, uh, And the strength that he gives you to go out every day and provide for your family. That's pretty much all I got to say.
00:16:24
Speaker 2: Thank you, Andrew. Good luck. Enjoy your salad. I hope you continue to have a beautiful, uninterrupted life.
00:16:35
Speaker 3: You too, brother. Thank you.
00:16:37
Speaker 2: Thanks, Andrew. See you around the universe, man.
00:16:40
Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
00:16:41
Speaker 1: Bye.
00:16:43
Speaker 2: That was Andrew. And look, before... I know what everyone's going to do. Everyone's going to go in the comments and be like, he said, you know, a.
00:16:54
Speaker 3: Lot.
00:16:54
Speaker 2: And he did. But he's not media. This is a show about talking to real people.
00:17:01
Speaker 1: You know?
00:17:03
Speaker 2: No, I say it all the time. It's a regular thing to say. It's not media trained.
00:17:08
Speaker 1: Um....
00:17:14
Speaker 2: I would be if somebody wanted to if somebody just wrote a comment being like he said you know a lot I'd be like come on like cut the guy some slack. But if somebody wrote a comment being like I did the work to physically count how many times he said it and they came up with a number then I'd be like okay I'm impressed that you put work into doing that. So don't just comment it for the sake of commenting it. Unless if you're going to do the work to count just out of, not out of a way of like putting anyone down, just have like, like a genuine curio, like a, how many, uh, M & Ms are in this jar kind of a way, not in like a mean way. Cause, uh, you know, I like Andrew. He's chill. It's a really chill guy. He's a chill guy. This has been a chill podcast. It's not, not every episode is a crazy thing. Sometimes we just, we just, uh, we just kind of chill. I like, I like it. I like to, uh, I like, I like, I like chilling.
00:18:32
Speaker 3: Hey, how's it going? Who is this?
00:18:34
Speaker 2: Uh, hey, what's up? This is, uh, the gecko guy.
00:18:37
Speaker 1: Oh, no way.
00:18:40
Speaker 2: How are you doing, man? I'm doing good. It's, it's, uh, Sometimes I make an Instagram story and I'm like, people can call in now, but other times I'm like, I don't want to bother everyone with an Instagram story. Let me just randomly call back a missed call from two days ago and see if they respond. And so this is, I guess this is that. Do you want to talk? Do you want to be on the podcast?
00:19:09
Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah, 100%. Let's do it. All right, cool.
00:19:16
Speaker 2: What should I call you? I'm going to call you Devin.
00:19:20
Speaker 1: I guess I'll use a fake name. My name's Parker.
00:19:26
Speaker 2: Okay, we can do Parker. That's cool with me. What are you doing right now? It's always funny when I just call someone randomly and they pick up because I'm like, what are you doing right now that you picked up?
00:19:39
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I'm just chilling in my room. I was watching Avatar. I just got done watching the UFC. My favorite fighter won, Alexander Volkov. Huge shout out to him. I'm really happy right now. I'm in a very good mood, as you can probably tell.
00:19:58
Speaker 2: What makes him your favorite fighter?
00:20:04
Speaker 1: Well, okay, so one of the things that I think I really like about him was that Like, when he kind of first started fighting, he didn't really have a lot of, like, a lot of supporters. He had, like, this trilogy fight with this guy named Max Holloway, and the fans, like, loved Max Holloway. And so when Alexander Volkanovsky had his first fight, the fight was really close. So he didn't get a lot of fans. And for a while, he was kind of talking about how he had, like, this really, like, hard time, just in his life, I guess, just about how, like, He was a really nice guy. He's a genuinely terrific person, in my opinion. And he was kind of having this dilemma where he's doing the sport he loves, but all the fans hate him. And it wasn't even for his own fault. But I think what speaks to him or speaks to me the most about him was that he just kind of kept going with his attitude. He didn't turn on the fans. He didn't turn into a dick or anything like that. He just kind of kept doing what he thought was right. And I feel like in my own life, especially when I was in high school, I used to be a really like, I guess, I wouldn't say like a mean person, but I was really like obnoxious. And I kind of realized like looking back, like I wasn't really a good person to all my friends. And I kind of had this like epiphany, I guess, when I was in Berlin over the summer. I was doing like an internship there. And I don't know, the people in Berlin are just so, it's so incredible. And I kind of got into, I was able to like look at my life objectively, I guess. And it allowed me to, um, kind of like walk away from like my day-to-day life and kind of look at it in a different perspective. And so I kind of had this like huge thing, like where I was kind of like reaching out to people and kind of, um, you know, trying to be like a better person. And I actually, this is kind of funny. I know I'm talking, I'm going on this huge rant. No, go ahead.
00:22:05
Speaker 2: There's a lot to get into.
00:22:08
Speaker 1: Have you seen the show called The Night of the Seven Kingdoms?
00:22:11
Speaker 2: No, I have no idea what that is.
00:22:13
Speaker 1: Oh, it's this excellent Game of Thrones spinoff. And so I kind of, I don't know. I kind of got a lot of inspiration from his character too. His name is Sir Duncan the Tall. And I don't want to spoil the show, but he just kind of, goes into these like really strange new experiences, I guess. And he still does what he thinks is right. And he sticks up for people who are in need. And I kind of like really took a lot out of that. And so I guess I'm just trying to become a better person. Like I started doing like Muay Thai, like I started training mixed martial arts. Like I started like getting off my phone, which was a really big thing. I don't know. I've just kind of been on this huge, like almost like life transformation, I guess. And I don't know, I kind of, I look to him as like inspiration and, um, like an example of like what it means to be like, I guess like a father, but also like a hard worker. And I don't know, I just took a lot out of, I took a lot out of his, um, his fights and his adversity and his like life story. And I don't know, I kind of try to apply that to my own life.
00:23:22
Speaker 2: Now I'm curious, what did you, what was it about Berlin? that made you re-examine your life? Because there's definitely a European way of thinking about the world and life and whatnot that'll get you thinking about stuff.
00:23:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think primarily it kind of allowed me to reset everything. It kind of allowed me to reinvent myself because I was in like my cohort and like all these people had never met me before besides one of my friends who's like my best friend. I'm not gonna say his name because I don't want, you know, but he's an awesome guy and I really, he's one of my best friends. And so I was just with Berlin and him.
00:24:16
Speaker 3: Sorry?
00:24:17
Speaker 2: Oh, I said we'll call him Devin.
00:24:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, Devin.
00:24:20
Speaker 3: Yes, Devin.
00:24:22
Speaker 1: Perfect. So Devin and I were kind of in Berlin together and I guess Devin is kind of one of the people who... And I'm just so blessed to say this, I guess. And I feel so grateful to him. But he's kind of like one of those people who kind of sees the best in me, I guess. And... That kind of helped me sort of... Like... That kind of helped me try to become the best person I was. Because... Someone could see it in me before... Before maybe I could see it in myself.
00:24:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, you super knew.
00:24:53
Speaker 3: And.
00:24:55
Speaker 1: Yeah... And I don't know, like I, it just, I, I was able to, one of the big things I think I've realized I've had is I think I've had a really big phone addiction. Um, I was listening to one of your calls like the other day and one of the guys, one of the guys was talking about how, I forget his name, but he was kind of talking about how he wasn't using his phone anymore. And I feel like I was walking around like the city and I was just kind of like people watching and, you know, maybe I'd get like a, like a, you know, a nice tea or, um, sit down and have a drink by the, uh, by the river. And I kind of, I just would, I would just like think about stuff and this kind of let me sort of look at life, look at like my life trajectory objectively. And it had a really big impact. Like I was majoring in communications and, you know, it was something that I, and it always was something that I was like, you know, so growing up, um, sorry, I'm getting really deep here. I'm sorry. Um, growing up, I was kind of told that I wasn't really good at math and I kind of started to like give up at all the math that I had. And I kind of would just cheat on like my exams and stuff like that. But then over the summer, I kind of had another epiphany, I guess, was that like, I'm not really in school to like get good grades. I'm kind of in school to learn and try to like figure out who I am as a person. I mean, grades are important. Don't get me wrong, but you know, there's an aspect of kind of like developing, I guess, like who you are. And so I kind of realized that I was selling myself short and it was time for me to like put in my most, my best effort. And, you know, kind of looking at that, you know, UFC fighter guy, like Alexander Volkanovsky, I kind of, I just kind of tried, I just tried. And I like, I guess I just tried to be the best that I could be. And If I failed, I would speak to myself like how I would speak to my friend Josh. I would try to be forgiving of myself. If I failed, I'd be like, all right, Parker, it's all good, man. You make mistakes, and that's okay. I just kind of started speaking to myself more synthetically. It's okay to make mistakes, but what really matters is how you go about it after. It's not the... I don't know if you've ever seen this movie. It's called La Haine. It's like a French movie. It's really good.
00:27:19
Speaker 2: La Haine?
00:27:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:27:23
Speaker 2: La Haine.
00:27:25
Speaker 3: Oh, La Haine.
00:27:25
Speaker 1: 1995.
00:27:26
Speaker 2: Wow, this definitely looks like a movie. Very good movie. Look at this guy. This guy looks like this Eminem-looking guy.
00:27:33
Speaker 1: Indeed, yeah, yeah.
00:27:36
Speaker 2: What's La Haine about?
00:27:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's about these three... like kids who kind of live on the street a lot. And it's kind of like a commentary on like the, the dilemma between like, um, like police authority and like the day to day lives of like people they, that maybe look like they're committing crimes, but, but, but they're really just trying to like figure themselves.
00:28:03
Speaker 3: Out, I guess.
00:28:04
Speaker 1: And it's like a really good commentary on like, I don't know if you've seen the wire, um, I haven't.
00:28:11
Speaker 2: But I'm from Baltimore, so people are always talking to me about it.
00:28:15
Speaker 1: Oh, dude, you've got to watch The Wire.
00:28:17
Speaker 2: I love The Wire. Dude, I don't know what it is. I'm not good at serialized dramas. I'm too family guy, funny moments, compilation pilled. That's totally fair. I'll watch the first episode. Enough people have told me. I'll try to watch the first episode. It sounds like you're in a form.
00:28:53
Speaker 1: Of.
00:28:53
Speaker 2: You seem amped up to live your best life.
00:28:58
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm really happy hearing that, actually. That makes me very happy to hear it.
00:29:05
Speaker 2: You sound young.
00:29:06
Speaker 3: How old are you?
00:29:09
Speaker 2: I'm 21. Cool. Man, I'm happy for you. I think that's good. I think everything you're talking about is good. Trying to live your best life.
00:29:25
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:29:29
Speaker 2: I interrupted you. You were talking about this movie. It had an effect on you of some sort.
00:29:36
Speaker 1: Um, which movie was that?
00:29:40
Speaker 3: Talking about oh.
00:29:41
Speaker 1: Lehane Lehane yeah Lehane yeah no I I always just found it to be to be a really good movie um I kind of saw I'm like I'm so happy that I I've been trying to get on this or try to talk to you for like years and um it's just so funny that it just like randomly happened today I think that's pretty.
00:29:59
Speaker 2: Awesome It's in French.
00:30:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is in French. Do you speak French?
00:30:04
Speaker 2: I listen to it.
00:30:06
Speaker 1: Unfortunately not. I wish I could, though. If I could speak French, that would be awesome.
00:30:11
Speaker 3: Wow. Cool.
00:30:12
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know if I'll watch The Wire, but I'll watch La Haine. This looks cool. How did you even... It is a very cool movie. This is off-topic in some sense, but you were born at least... 10 years, 10, my math is wrong, but how'd you find out this movie exists?
00:30:34
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Therein lies a tale. Um, basically I, uh, I was in, so my high school I went to, I had like this IB film class and we would analyze like a bunch of different movies from like different eras. And, uh, one of the movies we had to review was Lahane. And I thought that's a very good movie. I very much enjoyed it. Hmm.
00:30:59
Speaker 3: Hmm.
00:30:59
Speaker 2: So you're back from Berlin.
00:31:03
Speaker 1: Yes.
00:31:05
Speaker 2: And what's next for you, Parker?
00:31:11
Speaker 1: That is that is a good question. You know, I'm really I'm really trying to get some of my habits better. Like I'm I I'm not trying. I used to smoke a lot of weed. And I still smoke weed now. I go to University of Colorado. So obviously, there's a decent amount of people who engage in the Mary Jane. But yeah, I've been trying to have better habits. But I also noticed that sometimes when I go down these rabbit holes of self-improvement, which I think I might be on right now, I kind of I maybe it's like I try to escape some of my faults or I try to like I'm running from something, I guess. And so I've been really like I've been trying to like reflect a lot more and still be a better person and mostly like try to love myself more. Like I kind of had it. I was not a very like I don't really know the best way to put it. Growing up, like a lot of the people who like I found mentors kind of like turned out not to be like be the best people occasionally. And so it kind of stunted my, like, emotional, like, confidence, I guess, and, like, confidence in, like, being myself. So I kind of tried to, I guess I'm trying to, like, you know, have, like, more, like, I guess, like, more, like, self-love, I guess. And I kind of realized, like, I feel the best about myself when I'm helping others. So I try to do that. So, like, for example, I, like, do Muay Thai, which is, like, a, like if you like speak, like, um, if you're watching like the UFC, all the striking that they do is primarily like Muay Thai. Cause you use like knees, elbows and all that kind of stuff. And I've been doing it for a pretty long time. And I don't know. I try to like mentor the young, the young guys, like, or the young, like, uh, like athletes and stuff like that. The guys who's like, just started out. And like, cause I, I try to remember what it was, what it felt like for me being a beginner. Um, and I try to like, you know, guide them through it. And if, you know, try to always give them support and like tips and stuff like that. Because, you know, a lot of times people join Muay Thai and this was kind of my experience. Like I joined Muay Thai because like I was at a party and I almost got like, like beat up. And I like, I felt so like ashamed of myself. I felt so bad about myself. I was like, you know what? I can't, if I'm like with someone I love and if they're trying to hurt them, like I gotta be able to like, at least like protect them.
00:33:43
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? How did you almost get beat up at this party?
00:33:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did.
00:33:48
Speaker 3: I did.
00:33:49
Speaker 1: It was really, it was really, it was really, uh, not the best memory, I guess. Like, it was my first high school party, and I was hanging out with all the kids that I thought were really cool, and, like, two of them, like, started taking on me, and then they were, like, just, so I just, like, laughed, and I was like, man, like, this was really disappointing. Like, I was so, so much looking forward to beat these guys, or, like, meet these guys, but I guess they weren't at all what I thought they were like. But, yeah, like, I feel like a lot of times people join Muay Thai for some of those reasons, and A lot of times people might be looking for community, and I feel like you kind of have to guide them in the right direction, so to speak.
00:34:27
Speaker 2: And what did you say? You said you changed your major? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:34:34
Speaker 1: I changed it to economics. Okay.
00:34:37
Speaker 2: What are you hoping to do with economics?
00:34:41
Speaker 1: I don't know. I honestly don't really know what I want to do after college yet. I've been thinking a lot about doing the Peace Corps. Yeah, I've always thought that was pretty interesting. I guess kind of what economics, I think, is the reason for me being the best major. Sorry, I'm fumbling over my words. I think one of the reasons why it's the best major for me is is because I kind of, like, get to learn how the world works. And I always thought, like, I always try to have been, like, a very curious person, you know what I mean? Like, I love learning about new things. I'm kind of a nerd in that sense. And I just, like, love learning new things and learning about how the world works and how, like, money flows through different countries and learning about, you know, how to, how, like, countries build, like, economies and all that kind of stuff. I always thought that was really interesting. And so I always, and I was kind of thinking, like, you know what? if I'm learning about something interesting and, you know, I learn like how to, you know, do important skills like coding or Python or learn, you know, learn how to do some good math as well as like other stuff as well. I always thought that could be like a good, um, a good way to get like a job, I guess, you know what I mean? Make myself useful in some, in some ways. And then I can use those skills maybe to, to help other people, which is kind of like what I was thinking about with, um, doing, uh, uh, Peace Corps. I also really like traveling, too. So, you know, that's an added bonus, I guess.
00:36:11
Speaker 3: Man.
00:36:13
Speaker 2: I'm happy for you, Parker. You sound like you got a good life ahead of you.
00:36:19
Speaker 1: Thank you. I mean, it's not perfect. Like, I do have, like, a lot of struggles I go through from time to time. Like, I always kind of had this, like, idea that, like, everybody that I thought had it all figured out, like, had, like, lived, like, perfect lives and, like, I'm really grateful for everything I have and all that kind of stuff. But, you know, I also have my own struggles. And, you know, sometimes I try to keep that in my mind, I guess, because, like, say, like, someone, like, kind of gives me a, or, like, cuts me off in traffic or, you know, maybe makes, like, an off-color remark towards me, like, as a joke, but maybe I take it serious. Like, I always just try to give people the benefit of the doubt because I've noticed, like, whenever I messed up, it's never personal. Like it's, it's, I mean, sometimes maybe if I'm like angry or upset and if I say something, I don't mean, then it's, then it's something different. But I've always noticed, like if I like, you know, maybe if someone says hi to me and I just kind of look at them, but I have my AirPods and so I didn't hear them and stuff like that. I always try to give people the benefit of the doubt in those regards. Cause I'm like, Oh, he probably didn't see me. Cause I know in my experience, at least like the majority of the times, like a little thing like that happens. It's always just cause I'm like blundering around or, you know, not paying attention or something like that.
00:37:34
Speaker 2: Right, right. There's a, there's a, it's not a, I guess a phrase, there's a phrase for that. It's called reading positive intent.
00:37:48
Speaker 3: You ever heard of that? I have not.
00:37:51
Speaker 2: It's like, like, okay, sometimes, you know, sometimes someone will be like, oh, this, I tried to say hi to this guy, but, He had his headphones in and he just ignored me and, you know, fucking piece of shit. But it's like you're kind of practicing a form of reading positive intent, which is another way of saying giving the benefit of the doubt of just being like, oh, they probably just didn't see me. And it's funny because even if you're wrong, you're still, I think it's a better term. default way to go through the world because like i mean some people have it the kind of the opposite where like their brain has been conditioned to um consistently read a negative intent um yeah you know even about the even yeah even about themselves uh and so i think it's a form of this is like real therapy shit but it's like it's a form of like brain conditioning and it sounds like you're trying to condition yourself you had to read positive intent of people which is good and look I'll say this I think that this is a good share I'm glad you shared this because you're I don't know maybe your optimism will rub off on the people you know Oh, that would be so awesome. good to, there's something, man, I don't know. There's something about like, um, like hearing a guy be, uh, like optimistic where I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm a little jazzed up. I'm like, Oh, I gotta, you know, stop smoking weed and all these other, all these other things. So it's a good share. It's a good share.
00:39:55
Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, I always kind of like, I guess, so I had like a, actually this happened when I was in Berlin. I kind of had this like, like day long crisis where I was just kind of like thinking about how bad the world's getting right now. I mean, I don't, sorry again, I don't want to sound like really depressing or anything like that, but I kind of like, Yeah, like, I kind of, like, saw a bunch of stuff, like, all the bunch of shit that, like, Trump's doing and, sorry, I don't want to get political, and how, like, there's this rise of, like, loneliness and, like, kind of animosity between, like, men and women because men are told online that, like, girls will only like them if they're, like, 6'5 and super rich and girls have told other girls or ladies have told other ladies that, like, guys are, like, all, like, really just, like, assholes and stuff like that. And I kind of had this realization that, um, we kind of live in like two humans live in like two separate universes right now. And they're so different. And you have this one universe of like in-person face-to-face communication, right? Like you just, you know, walk down the street, say hi to your neighbor and you're, you go back home after you're walking. You're like, man, like, you know what? All the people around me are really nice. But then you go online, you go on Twitter and everyone's just yelling at each other. Everyone's like, just like ruthless. And I just kind of like step back from that a little bit. And like, I feel like if you just walk around and breathe in the air and meet all the people and you realize that like, we're so much more alike than we are unalike. And, um, you know, like we've had like, as, as much as, you know, these times are getting a little bit tricky with inflation and, you know, cost of living and obviously the, you know, the situations in the middle East as well. Like there's a lot of stuff to be really pessimistic about as well as AI as well. But, you know, I was kind of thinking like, I'm really inspired by people like Zoran Mandani and, um, you know, uh, uh, Abdul outside and all those, you know, these new era of Democrats. And, and, and I really think that like, well, one thing I think they, that I really like is that they don't really try to make any like divides. Like they're accepting of all people, no matter like what you, what, what your skin color is and, or, you know, who you like to go home with at night. And it's like, I kind of look at that and I think these are people who are genuinely trying to make other people's lives better. And as long as there are people who are actively trying to make other people's lives better, then that gives me hope. And if they're in a fight scene, like there's nobody in my community or in my friend group or in my area that's not doing that, then I'll step up. I'll be the one who tries to, like, do more good than, you know, or tries to fix some of the things.
00:42:50
Speaker 3: Like, I don't know.
00:42:51
Speaker 1: I always feel like, I don't know. I don't really know where I was going with that. But, you know, I feel like, I guess, like, to sum it all up, I guess I try to be the change I see in the world. And I'm not perfect at it, but, you know, I feel like if you try a little bit each day, you know, eventually maybe, you know, change happens slowly, I guess, then it happens all of a sudden, at least in my experience.
00:43:11
Speaker 3: So, I don't know.
00:43:13
Speaker 2: You're very hope-pilled.
00:43:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, I try to be. You know what I mean? That's good. I think there's a lot of things to be hopeful in.
00:43:22
Speaker 3: The world right now.
00:43:23
Speaker 2: No, I agree with you. I particularly very much agree with you on the two different worlds thing, which is that it's so... I mean, it's hard because... like we live in the digital world and stuff. And even like, uh, you know, like I'll delete Instagram for a while and I'll feel weirdly isolated. Um, yeah, but I don't like, it's really true. It's really trippy. It's not, uh, good, but then it's, um, you know, yeah. If you want to go online and, uh, scroll through the, you know, it's a conversation we've had, we've had a lot, but, uh, Yeah, if you want to go online and scroll through the black mirror of death, it'll show you death. Yeah, I've said this a bunch, but I'll just be walking down the street and you see real life. It's weird little things. I was on the subway and I just saw this.
00:44:40
Speaker 2: Woman be like, say to some other lady like, oh, I like your shirt. It's really cool. Where'd you get it? And then they said something and they laughed and I was like, oh, okay, we're still doing it. You know what I mean? We're still doing it. Or you see like two people holding hands and one of them has an iced coffee and they're just talking about whatever and you're like, alright, this is CNN will never report on that. CNN will never be like, two people held hands and drank coffee and it was nice. But that's happening. But that's like what's happening in the world a lot. But you know, it's about what you want to look at and.
00:45:32
Speaker 1: Focus on.
00:45:39
Speaker 2: And whatnot. It feels nice as hell to not be on the internet. Lahane. I'm going to watch Lahane. You definitely should. It's very good. It seems like a lot of people who made it died while it was being made.
00:46:03
Speaker 3: What?
00:46:05
Speaker 1: I have not heard about that.
00:46:06
Speaker 2: Whoa, hey, do you know who made the... Well, okay, I'm only saying that because it says the film is... Yeah, I'm only saying that because it says the film is dedicated to those who died while it was being made.
00:46:21
Speaker 1: Oh, I think that might be... I honestly don't know what that could mean.
00:46:28
Speaker 3: Wait. Oh, oh, oh, oh.
00:46:31
Speaker 2: Okay, I think.
00:46:34
Speaker 2: Wait, I'm dumb. I don't think the people making it... I don't think it's dedicated to the people making it who died. I think it's dedicated to other people who died while it was being made unrelated to its production.
00:46:50
Speaker 3: Maybe.
00:46:51
Speaker 2: I don't know.
00:46:52
Speaker 1: The movie kind of makes a lot of... A big theme of the movie is police brutality, so... I think maybe that might be talking to about people who have been victims of police brutality.
00:47:11
Speaker 2: Hey, you want to know something? I think this is cool, too. You know who does the music?
00:47:18
Speaker 3: No, who?
00:47:19
Speaker 2: Assassin.
00:47:20
Speaker 1: Assassin?
00:47:25
Speaker 2: It says music by Assassin.
00:47:27
Speaker 3: Huh.
00:47:31
Speaker 2: Assassin is a French... Assassin is a French hardcore rap group formed in 1985 by Rockin' Squat and Solo. That's awesome. That's such a fucking great name for a rap group. Not The Assassins. That's kind of lame. The Assassins, that's kind of lame. Just Assassin? That's great. That's so tough. It's a duo.
00:48:01
Speaker 1: They're like.
00:48:02
Speaker 2: What's that rap duo?
00:48:04
Speaker 3: Crap.
00:48:06
Speaker 2: Outkast, maybe? No, Killer Mike and.
00:48:14
Speaker 2: Fuck. Why don't I... This is just my brain. What's the name of that rap group?
00:48:22
Speaker 3: I don't know.
00:48:23
Speaker 2: They're the only... I don't know a lot about music. They're the only... Rap duo, I can think. Well, the Insane Clown Posse is two people. Run the Jewels. That's what I was thinking. I've run the Jewels. Those are the two rap groups I know that only have two people. But look at this. It's a rap group. Can you call it a group if it's only two people? I guess they're already doing that. I guess the verdict has been.
00:48:46
Speaker 3: I don't know.
00:48:49
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess so. I guess a group is two or more people.
00:48:52
Speaker 3: I don't know.
00:48:56
Speaker 2: Rock and school. That's a cool name.
00:48:58
Speaker 3: Wow.
00:48:59
Speaker 2: They're doing cool.
00:49:00
Speaker 3: French.
00:49:01
Speaker 2: They're doing cool. Other countries are, they're good at being, doing cool stuff.
00:49:06
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:49:06
Speaker 3: So I, you know, I, I kind of agree.
00:49:10
Speaker 1: They're like cinema, Paradiso, I think, or Paris. I don't know how to say that. That's a good movie. I like to watch. The Germans have really good techno music. All these different countries have some really cool attributes about them, in my opinion. Parker. Yes.
00:49:33
Speaker 2: Let's see. It's Saturday at 7 p.m. Are you going to do something? Are you going to go? Well, I'll end the call soon. I'll let you go soon. But what are you going to do after this? Do you have any plans?
00:49:52
Speaker 1: That is a good question. So I'm in Colorado right now. So it is currently 5.53. I'm thinking I could do a couple things. The fraternity I'm in had a party a couple days ago.
00:50:05
Speaker 3: Sorry, yesterday.
00:50:08
Speaker 1: So waking up this morning has been a little challenging.
00:50:11
Speaker 3: But you know what?
00:50:12
Speaker 1: I think I'm just going to keep drinking some water, trying to recover. And then I think I'm going to go to the dining hall and get some food because I'm kind of hungry. Then I might go to the gym. And then I'm going to ask my friends if they want to. Yeah, I'm going to ask my friends if they want to get a beer tonight and see if I can chop it up with them a little bit.
00:50:33
Speaker 2: That's nice. You have a nice life, Parker.
00:50:38
Speaker 1: Thank you. I try. I try.
00:50:40
Speaker 2: Thank you for sharing this. I'm going to watch Lahane.
00:50:47
Speaker 3: Thank you.
00:50:48
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the people of the computer before we go?
00:50:55
Speaker 3: Yes.
00:50:56
Speaker 1: One thing. Here's my advice. I haven't really accomplished much. I've failed a lot. But I would say just show up. you know, if, if you're trying to work on going to the gym or, you know, doing something like that, just show up to the gym. You don't even have to work out. Just, just try a little bit. And if you fail, that's totally fine. Like try to, try to be more, try to speak to you as if you're speaking like your mom or your best friend and try to give yourself some, some grace and sympathy and, um, try to be, try to be the, be nice to other people. No, you don't never know what somebody else is going through. And, um, You know, one small thing you might think you can do or one small thing you do could totally, totally change someone else's life for the better. And I always try to remember that.
00:51:45
Speaker 2: Hey, thanks, Parker. Have a nice rest of your night and the end of your life.
00:51:51
Speaker 1: Thank you, man. You too. Have a good one.
00:51:53
Speaker 2: Take care, man. Thanks for answering this call very randomly.
00:51:56
Speaker 1: Of course.
00:51:57
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:51:57
Speaker 1: Bye.
00:51:58
Speaker 3: Bye, Parker.
00:52:03
Speaker 2: That was Parker. What a sweet guy Parker is. Yeah, he's a sweet guy. Hopeful, you know. That's good. That's good. I'm glad, you know, I'm glad that some people have hope. It's good. You know, he's in college. He's getting his life started. And he's got hope. And he's watching old movies. What year is it right now?
00:52:42
Speaker 3: 2026?
00:52:42
Speaker 2: Lehane. Man, can you imagine you make a movie called Lehane and then 31 years later a guy still watches it. This was made two years before I was born. And people are watching it. Lehane. Um, Wendy Eyed of the Times. It doesn't say, uh, a city. Like, it's not like a Los Angeles Times or a New York Times, just the Times. Says, Lahane is one... This is weird. Okay, it says one, but the O in one has a parenthesis. You know how, like, like, uh, If someone's being quoted. And like they didn't say the exact word. But you need the word for the context. They'll put it in brackets. Do you know what I'm saying? You guys know what I'm saying. For some reason. In this quote. From Wendy Ide of the Times. Reviewing Lehane. Just the O. Is in brackets. Does that mean that she said. That her like. her literal, her verbatim quote was one of the most blisteringly effective pieces of urban cinema ever made? Why is the one in parentheses? Or brackets? Anyway, she said it was one of the most blisteringly effective pieces of urban cinema ever made. Lahayn. Oh, uh.
00:54:41
Speaker 2: Let's see. Oh, it was produced by LeStudio Canal Plus.
00:54:53
Speaker 3: That's, uh....
00:54:56
Speaker 2: You know, shout out Lehane. Shout out Lehane. I don't know why I'm... I don't know if there's anything else to say about Lehane, but we'll watch it. I'm not going to read the plot summary. I'll actually watch the movie. Hello, folks. This is Lyle. I don't know why I forgot my own name. This is the end part of the podcast where I am going to read one Gekmail. I'm going to read one Gekmail. I'm not going to say I'll read two because then.
00:55:36
Speaker 2: If I say I'll read two and then I only read one, people will get disappointed. But if I say I'll read one, then I decide, you know what, let's read two. Then it's a good thing. And then if I say I'll read one and then I only read one, then you deliver on your promise. I haven't been getting a lot of geck mails lately. If you sent me one at any time in the last... If you sent me one and it hasn't been read in the podcast, send it again. I've lost track of everything. It's therapygeckomail at gmail.com. It's therapygeckomail at gmail.com.
00:56:22
Speaker 3: Okay.
00:56:23
Speaker 2: Let's read one geck mail to end the show. Alright, this is from... This is from Texas.
00:56:41
Speaker 3: Hi, Gecko.
00:56:41
Speaker 2: I would like to be anonymous, so call me Texas. I believe I am an extrovert trapped in an introvert's body. As a kid, I was very outgoing and loud. I would get in trouble all the time in elementary school for talking too much or being hyper. All this changed when I moved to a new city in starting middle school. I was excited to move because this new city was bigger and seemed more fun, but my outgoing and talkative personality suddenly went away and I didn't understand why I couldn't just talk to people the way I used to. I had trouble making friends, and if I did make friends, it would not last very long. Eventually, I just gave up and spent the rest of my school years mainly alone. I am 22 now, And to this day, I want to talk to people. I have an interest in getting to know people who seem interesting or who like the same things I like. But when I want to talk, I feel the words won't come out. I've been diagnosed with social anxiety in the past. And I have gotten better at talking to people. But I am not where I want to be. I just wish I could be the same kid I used to be. I feel like that's what I was meant to be. Even if I was annoying, I don't care. Maybe my brain is trying to stop myself from being embarrassing. I miss being carefree and not freezing up to talk to people. Anyway, I love listening to your podcast. And it would be so cool if you read this. Live life, breathe air. Stay cool, Gak, Texas. Huh.
00:58:29
Speaker 3: Hmm.
00:58:31
Speaker 1: Hmm. Hmm.
00:58:33
Speaker 2: This is a tough one, Texas. Trying to think here. I've definitely dealt with an issue like that. I've definitely dealt with issues like this before. A hundred percent. Not so much of like, oh, I used to be this way and I don't know what happened to me. I mean, I've dealt with versions of that too, but like certain social situations I'll get into and I'll be like, what the fuck? I thought I knew how to exist. And it's not even that the social situation is that intimidating. It's just uncomfortable or unfamiliar. And I'm like, what the fuck? I thought I knew how to exist. What happened? I know how to exist. What's that Jacob... I cannot pronounce his last name. But it's that clip where he goes like, you are a regular guy. You can exist in a room. You know, I'm giving myself that speech.
00:59:27
Speaker 1: Um.
00:59:30
Speaker 2: I understand the frustration of this emailer, for sure. Of just being like, fuck, I know I'm... Why is my fucking body and... Why is my physical body acting in such incongruence with who I know myself to be? Down to my feelings. You know, I'm feeling nervous. I'm like, what the fuck? I don't get nervous. Why am I nervous? It's frustrating. Do I have a solution? Of course not.
01:00:03
Speaker 1: But... Maybe.
01:00:05
Speaker 2: I don't know. What's the solution?
01:00:08
Speaker 1: Hmm.
01:00:11
Speaker 2: Hmm. Your brain is trying to stop yourself from being embarrassing. Maybe it's a fucking... Let me reread this.
01:00:21
Speaker 1: Uh....
01:00:25
Speaker 2: I gave up and spent the rest of my years alone. I had trouble... I'm 22 now, and to this day, I want to talk to people. I have an interest in getting to... You know what? I mean, it's... I don't know. I'm going to repeat the same thing that I've said. I've said it a million times on this show, but it's kind of the same answer.
01:00:45
Speaker 1: If I have.
01:00:46
Speaker 2: If I'm... If relating to the issue is not enough, and there needs to be some form of solution, I guess my form of solution would be the same one that I've been talking about for a while.
01:00:56
Speaker 3: Which is like.
01:00:59
Speaker 2: You're not comfortable. Whatever situation you're in, you're just not comfortable. And you build comfort by exposure over time. So you just need to find a community of people or a place to go and just show up. I've said a bunch of that. But find a community, a place to go, and just be there a lot. Just continue being there. Just continue physically being there. And then I think maybe your body has this thing where it's like recognizing that it's not comfortable. And then after extended exposure in a place, your body will start to be like, oh, I know this guy. I can talk to this guy. But when you're brand new and you're not, I mean, when you're brand new to a social situation, Then yeah, your body's going to be like, what the fuck? I don't know these people. And you're like, no, no, no. It's like your body is like a bouncer. And you're trying to tell your body, you're like, no, I'm cool. I'm on the list. And then the bouncer, your body is like, who do you know here? You don't know anyone here. And you're like, no, I'm cool. I'm on the list. And it doesn't matter. And that's the thing. Your body, the central nervous system is a dick bouncer. The central nervous system doesn't care that you're on the list. The central nervous system is like. You don't know anyone here.
01:02:34
Speaker 3: So.
01:02:36
Speaker 2: And you can't argue with the central nervous system. So I'm not even going to say some corny shit. I'm not even going to be like. Remember you're on the list. I'm just going to you know. Show up to the club a couple more times. Then the bouncer will be like. Oh Texas it's you. I know you come right on in. But you got to build that familiarity.
01:02:54
Speaker 1: Okay.
01:02:56
Speaker 2: Um, thanks for emailing about this, Texas. I hope that you, I hope you, I hope you find, um, I hope you develop enough comfortability. Cause that once you, cause you know how it goes, man, you get comfortable and then you're like, all right, I knew, I knew, I knew how to exist. I knew I was a real person. Um, that's it. That's, that's my, um, that's the last Geck mail I'll read. I like just doing the one. Send me a Gecko mail. TherapyGeckoMail at gmail.com. And that's it. I don't have anything else to say or do or be. And so I'm going to go. Thanks for listening to this podcast. And I'll see you guys on the next episode. Geck bless.
01:03:51
Speaker 1: Thank you.
