Rob McConnell Interviews - BONNIE VENT - The Channeling of The Alligator Hunter Steve Irwin

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Music I met a strange lady. She made me nervous.
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She took me in and gave me breakfast.
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And she said, do you come from a land down under?
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is exon at talkstarradio.com. My guest this hour is Bonnie Vent.
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She is the owner of the San Diego Paranormal Research Project.
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Her research of paranormal activity in the San Diego area
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is widely known. She received an excellent award for her
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research from her colleagues at Sacramento Paranormal Investigators. Bonnie was
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known as the resident psychic at the Villa Montezuma, where
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she channeled information that has been proven to be historical facts.
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Bonnie is considered to be a spirit advocate, since she
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represents those who have crossed over in correcting the issues
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that are keeping these spirits from coming back here. She
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has assisted Thomas and Anne Whaley of the famous, world-famous
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Whaley House in Old Town, and Jesse Shepard of the
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Villa Montezuma in Sherman Heights. These projects are still ongoing.
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In 2005, Bonnie expanded nationally with the paranormal-related subjects in
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New Jersey and Texas. Her appearances on macabre theaters are
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also rolling out nationally this year. And her website is www.bonnievent.com.
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And Bonnie, welcome to the Exxon. How are you doing,
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my dear friend?
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Oh, I'm doing great. Thanks very much.
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Staying out of trouble?
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Oh, never.
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That's good.
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It's too easy to stay out of trouble.
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Yeah, I know, and I agree with you. Now, we're
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going to be talking about Steve Irwin, the crocodile hunter.
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Yeah, you know, ordinarily I would not be going public
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with this, but there's been some publicity lately, which I'm
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sure you're aware of.
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Yes.
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One that's titled.
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Psychic John Edwards Speaks Message from Steve Irwin.
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Mm-hmm.
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And.
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Being that I actually did indeed receive a message from
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Steve Irwin, which got delivered, I took great exception to
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using spirit communication as a way to sell tickets to
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a performance at the Crocosium.
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All right.
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What I'd like to do with you when we come
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back from this commercial break is talk about your channeling
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experience with the crocodile hunter, Steve Irwin. Bonnie Vent is
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our special guest. and her website is www.bonnievent.com. Still to
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come on tonight's show, my friend Mike Wood from Ottawa
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is going to be with us. Mike is part of
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that great Canadian rock and roll band, Circuit. He's going
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to be with us. Mike is now a published author,
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and his book is doing phenomenal. So Mike Wood from
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Ottawa and the band is Circuit is going to be
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joining us on the other side of the next news break.
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1-877-528-8255 is our toll-free number right now if you'd like
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to give me a call or speak to my special guest,
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Bonnie Vent. She is the owner of the San Diego
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Paranormal Research Project. And Bonnie and I will be back
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on the other side of this commercial break talking about
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her channeling, the one and only crocodile hunter, Steve Irwin.
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1-877-528-8255 is toll-free. My email address, exxon at talkstarradio.com. And
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don't forget to go to exxonradio.com and check out that
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video footage. I'd love to see your comments on it.
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In my book, pretty impressive, but I believe it's CGI technology.
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Tell me what you think, Exxon Nation. I'll be back
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on the other side of this two-minute break as we
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continue live and around the world from our studios in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada,
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right here on the Talk Star Radio Network.
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Three o'clock in the morning And it looks like it's
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gonna be another sleepless night.
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I've been listening to.
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Your dreams and getting very low Wondering what I can
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do Maybe I'm being foolish Cause I haven't heard you
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mention anybody's name.
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At all.
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How I wish I could be sure it's me that
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turns you on.
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Each time you close your eyes.
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I've heard it said that dreamers never lie. You've been
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talking in your sleep.
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And welcome back. Bonnie Vent is our special guest. Bonnie,
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can you tell us what led you up to channeling
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Steve Irwin?
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Actually, it was a news announcement. I think you get
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ABC even though you're in Canada. I was watching Good
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Morning America. And they made an announcement about his death,
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and he came in instantaneously right after that. Wow.
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And what did he say?
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Well, the first thing is what people customarily say, which is,
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you know, tell my family that I love them. And
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then the second thing was actually a clairvoyant transmission. So
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I got a little movie image. And what he showed
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me was a filing cabinet, second drawer down, pertinent documents,
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what to do in the event of my death. and
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make sure that my wife knows about these.
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And were you able to contact Terry?
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Well, you know, ultimately it got through. Actually, this is
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one of the easier messages to deliver because I tell
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you it's quite a challenge when you get something from
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the person who's passed and you're trying to get a
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hold of the person that is, you know, a family
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member and they're grieving. And these messages tend to be
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they come in pretty quickly. And so I'm sitting in
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San Diego going, how the heck am I going to
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get a hold of Terry Irwin?
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Yeah.
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You know, that's the first challenge. And so I set
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it aside because I had other things to do that day.
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And I think you're aware that I work with Butch Patrick,
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who played Eddie.
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Munster on The Munsters.
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Yes.
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And he actually was supposed to be doing a movie premiere.
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So I sent an email out to the Butch Patrick
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Yahoo group, which I sent you a copy of earlier today.
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And in that, it just says, you know, go see
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the premiere. It's in Chicago if you get a chance.
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And it's just something that goes out to the fans.
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And so I get a response back from a person
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by the name of John Barry, who lives in Brisbane, Australia.
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And he was saying, you know, very cool about the.
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Movie, but we're all really upset about my family friend,
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Steve Irwin. And I went, wow, isn't that convenient? So
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I sent the message to him, and he notified. me
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that he was going to be heading over to Terry's house.
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And you have all of that documented also in the
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email that I sent to you.
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I don't want people just to take my word for it.
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No, no, no, this is documented.
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This is all date and time stamped and everything.
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It certainly is.
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So.
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He agreed that he was going to deliver the message,
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which is, you know, when you find out that, you know,
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he's actually an Aussie truck driver, it's pretty amazing.
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That he would agree to do this.
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And he was also very taken aback by Steve's passing
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because this was very early on and was having trouble
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getting his brain wrapped around it as well.
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But he agreed to, you know, he just printed out what.
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I sent him and took it.
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And, you know, gave it to her.
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I don't know whether or not you could actually consider
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that to be a delivery or not, because I'm finding
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out now that we're backtracking on this that he did
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actually make contact with Terry Irwin's assistant at the zoo,
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which you also have a copy of that email.
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Yes, I do. And, you know, it's very convincing when
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you do get documentation like you were kind enough to
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send me, and I also received documentation from, hold on here, Oh,
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what is his name?
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John Berry is my contact person.
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John Berry, that's right. Yeah, and he did send me
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documentation as well.
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And he just happens to be a member of the
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Butch Patrick Yahoo group. That's how the connection was made.
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Now, do you think that this connection has a lot
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more significance than a lot of people would put on it?
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Well, you know, it kind of gets into the magical.
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You know, what are the odds?
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There's 46 people in the Butch Patrick Yahoo group. What
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are the odds, one out of 46, that one person
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would actually be a personal friend.
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To Steve Irwin?
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Could we call this fate, synchronicity?
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I would.
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I would call it synchronicity. I would call it meant
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to be.
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I would call it, you know, freaking convenient for me.
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Thank you.
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I would call it proof. Because here you have a
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message that is channeled to you. Not only are you
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very gifted and very, very talented, but... Steve Irwin must
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have known that there was a connection and that you
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could get that message to Terry.
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Well, you know, it's interesting.
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When you look at the press now, and, you know,
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you always have to question what you see in the
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press with a big question mark.
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Hindsight is 20-20.
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But, you know, right now they're saying that Steve Irwin
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and John Edward were friends. So why wouldn't you go
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to your world-famous psychic buddy to deliver your message?
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Well, because maybe they weren't buddy-buddy, and who is going
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to say otherwise that John Edward wasn't his buddy-buddy since
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the person he's claiming to be his buddy-buddy is on
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the other side?
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Right. Well, you know, maybe, too, if you give it to.
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John Edward, is it going to wind up being international news,
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whereas I'll keep it quiet. until such times as I
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feel that it's time to stand up and tell the
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truth about these messages and that they should not be
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publicity stunts.
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Is this the first time something like this has happened
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to you?
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No, uh-uh.
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What's it like getting these messages all the time, Bonnie?
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It can be really, really frustrating because there's a huge burden.
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When you look at people that do the traditional readings,
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the recipient of the message is sitting right there. And
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they have contacted the medium because they want to get
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a hold of someone on the other side.
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Mine works the opposite direction.
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The person from the other side is contacting me saying,
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I need you to get this message to my loved one.
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And the loved one's not sitting there. And you don't
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know the loved one.
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You don't necessarily know the person who contacted you.
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I didn't know Steve Irwin. Yeah.
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Not only are you responsible for your own life and
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the life of your families, now you become responsible for
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the spirit world and their family.
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Yeah, and when they have things that they want to
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complete up, and I think I mentioned to you before
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that as another example, I can tell you about this
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because the message was for Butch Patrick, and he's fine
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with me talking about it, that I received a message
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from Charles Nelson Riley.
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When he passed.
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And Butch Patrick knew Charles Nelson Reilly from the show
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Lidsville that they did together.
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Back in the 70s.
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Now, that one was easy because, well, there's two things
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that happened. One was he didn't want to be known
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just for a match game. He wanted to be known
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for his full body of work. And when you poke
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around a little bit on the Internet and when you
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talk to his life partner, they'll tell you that he
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basically said the same thing when he was alive. But
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then the other one was for Butch. And he just said,
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you know, tell old Butchy boy I said goodbye, little bleeper.
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Which is more the funny side of Charles Nelson Reilly.
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in the teen heartthrob phase. And Charles Nelson Reilly used
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to chase him around a lot.
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Now when these messages come to you, Do the spirits
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stay nagging you until you do what they ask you
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to do?
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I've learned to just go with this and to do
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the best I possibly can do. But if I don't
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get the message delivered or if the person that it's
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designated for doesn't acknowledge it, then it will come back around.
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and I'll be given another person to try and deliver
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it to.
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Particular case that's been going on for several years now,
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and the original recipient of the message did not want
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to acknowledge it.
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Items for the recipient of the message, and so.
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Those action items did not occur.
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will wind up meeting people that knew this particular celebrity.
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from your friend.
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my gosh, you know, I can't believe it. And, you know,
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some other celebrities have actually offered to help and then
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dropped the ball.
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We've got Scott on the line from Cleveland, Ohio. He'd
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like to ask you a question. Hi, Scott. Scott, are
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you there? Did we miss Scott Superman? I guess Scott's
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not with us. Scott, if you're listening, please give us
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a call back. And we'll put you in contact with
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Bonnie Vent right away. Bonnie, can these spirits actually go
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and communicate with the people that they want to communicate with?
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of course, I'm just going by my own experiences, there
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has to be a send and there.
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Has to be a receive.
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And so they may not. You know, just because you
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have passed does not mean you have the ability to
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communicate back here.
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It's pretty common that people will see, you know, something
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or sense somebody's presence. And you're hearing a lot of
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this with Terry Irwin. And I have no doubt that
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she is sensing Steve Irwin's presence. He has a very,
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very strong presence, as he was when he was alive.
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And he still has the enthusiasm and, you know, the
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let's go do this kind of attitude. And so she's
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been talking about feeling his presence for quite some time.
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when John Ritter passed away, the cast members of the
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show were talking about how.
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They sensed his presence.
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I actually went to a taping of the show, and yes,
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he was definitely there. Were they aware he was there?
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Sort of yes, sort of no.
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I know for a fact that Priscilla Presley feels the
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presence of Elvis in Grace Manor. And she was on
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TV the other day discussing that. Bonnie, please stand by.
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You and I have to go to our commercial break
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with the news at the bottom of the hour. Bonnie
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Vent is our special guest ex-ownation, www.bonnievent.com. That's www.bonnievent.com. And
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if you'd like to give us a call and speak
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to Bonnie, ask your questions about channeling. Our toll-free number
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is 1-877-528-8255. That's toll-free.com. at 1-877-528-8255. My name's Rob McConnell.
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This is The Exxon on the Talk Star Radio Network.
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Bonnie Venge and I will be back on the other
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side of this news break as we continue investigating the
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world of the paranormal and the science of parapsychology here
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Welcome to the X-Zone, a place where fact is fiction
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and fiction is fiction.
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Is reality. Now, here's your host, Rob McConnell.
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Bonny Vent is our special guest, www.bonnyvent.com. And what's it
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like to be a spirit advocate anyway, Bonny?
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Well, as we talked about a little bit earlier, it
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works the opposite of what people think psychics and mediums do.
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And so your prior guest was talking about how you
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are a bright light and they can actually see this
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over on the other side and they are attracted to that.
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So they know if you have the ability to communicate
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messages forward and they definitely will seek you out.
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Bonnie, have you ever had a spirit attach themselves to you?
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No, I really haven't.
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And maybe it's because my mission statement.
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Is a little different.
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And I've always felt that I was protected from anything
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that was not good for me. And so, you know,
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I don't, like, go out to the penitentiaries and the
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graveyards and.
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You know, those things.
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And so if there's, you know, ugly demons out there,
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they can stay out there. I don't need to, you know,
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I'm not able to be of assistance to them anyhow.
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I'm very grateful I have a different charter.
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Yeah, I guess so. What's the hardest part about being
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a spiritual advocate?
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That is the hardest part, is that the recipient of
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the message is not sitting there. You have to go
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hunt them down, excuse the expression. And, you know, they
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may not be ready at the time. You know, my
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obligation is to.
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The spirit person.
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And, you know, if they decide to come chat with
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me two hours after they pass, which is what happened
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with Steve Irwin.
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I have no control over that.
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And in his particular case, it's like she immediately needs
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to know about these documents. And when you let the
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thing play out a little bit, and I got the
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information back from John Berry that she had located the documents,
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you may recall that it was in the international news
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that they turned down the state funeral for him. And
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according to John Barry, the reason why they did that
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was because the documents found in the file cabinet where
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I told her to go look for them said, I
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don't want that, and this is what I do want.
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What his wishes were.
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Now, to me, it got a little bit interesting because
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usually if you're going to write a document like that,
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and certainly the man did things that were very dangerous.
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So I have no surprise that he would write something,
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what to do in the event of his death, even
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though he was a young man. There again, you've got
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to take the press with a grain of salt. But
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it did come out in the press that Terry was interviewed,
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that Steve Irwin had always had a premonition that he
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was going to die in his 40s. And she considered
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that to be like his gloom and doom side, and
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she didn't want to talk about it. So to me,
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that makes a lot more sense that he would have
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a document stashed away in a file cabinet that his
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wife didn't know about. Because otherwise, why wouldn't she already know?
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That's true. That is very true. Now tell me, do
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you think most people have an idea when they're going
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to die?
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Some people do.
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In the case of my stepfather, you know, this is
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a long, long, prolonged illness, and he's in bed and
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he's been sick for a long time. it seemed like
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he went through a preparatory process before he actually left entirely.
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And it's almost like they're spanning in two different dimensions.
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And in his case, he went back to, like, 1944.
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So he's sitting in a hospital room in San Diego,
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but he thinks he's in Pearl Harbor, and he can
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see his ship right out the window.
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And.
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It seems to be, you know, a lot of people
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will report this, that right before the person dies, they
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tend to go back to what they consider to be
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a high point in their life.
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Yeah, I've heard that.
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Yeah. But, you know, I really don't think, I think
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the circumstances are as individual as that individual person. And
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one of the things that I've been tasked to work on,
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which to me it's like this is lightweight stuff for me,
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my guidance said we want you to start channeling people
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who have recently passed that want to talk about the
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transition process because isn't that what everybody wants to know,
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what happens after we die?
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That was my next question.
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Well, there you go.
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What does happen to us?
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I wouldn't take a cheap shot and say, well, I'm psychic,
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I knew that.
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But there does tend to be, you know, whatever information
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needs to get out gets out. So, you know, I'm
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just giving you what I'm being.
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Told to give you.
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But part of this project is actually individual stories, and
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they're very, very brief, and they talk a little bit
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about what happened, what caused their death, and then what
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happened right after the transition process. And one that you
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might find kind of fascinating, because I'm sure a lot
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of your listeners are into paranormal investigation.
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Haunted houses, ghosts, and all that.
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Big time.
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To get the other side of the coin, I have
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this story from this girl named Jennifer Key, who died
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in 1968, and she admits to doing the sex, drugs,
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and rock and roll. And she and her friends were
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up in her bedroom and decided under some drug-induced whatever
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that Russian roulette.
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Would be a fun game to play.
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So she proceeds to tell me, I didn't die from
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a drug overdose. I died from a point-blank range.
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Shot to the head playing Russian roulette. So after she
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leaves her body, she.
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Is met by her grandmother, who is not happy to
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see her at all. She's actually very pissed at her
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for doing such a stupid thing. So she wants to
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go back, and so she's talking with her grandmother, and
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her grandmother's saying, you can't go back.
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Your body's not viable. It won't hold your spirit. You
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can't go back. And then Jennifer T.
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Proceeds to tell me that, which is I know people
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talk about the life review process, and they decided not
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to have me go through life review because I hadn't
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really done much with.
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The life I had, and I exited out early.
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And so she is actually telling me that she is
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tied to that house, her parents never went back there,
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and that she is to remain there until such times
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as circumstances are right for her to reincarnate And she
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right now is under consideration for that because circumstances are similar.
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You know, we have Vietnam back then. We have the
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Iraq War now. A lot of drugs and escapism kind
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of stuff going on now. And so she's hoping that
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she's going to get to come back and.
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Complete that life.
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But if you were a paranormal investigator going into that house,
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you would say it was a haunted house.
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And it had a ghost.
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And this ghost is her.
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It's her.
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And she's going to stay there until they can get
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her a viable body to come back. And she goes
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on to say that she's not looking forward to being
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a baby again.
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Ick.
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I don't want to do that, but I guess I
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have to.
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And so she's in a cosmic do-over situation.
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Now, what has been your most challenging case?
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Probably the most labor-intensive case is the Hotel Del Coronado
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and the very famous legend of Kate Morgan, which we
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talked about, I believe, last November.
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Yes.
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And, you know, the fact that she's saying she's not
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Kate Morgan.
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And it's pretty easy.
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It doesn't take a whole lot scratching the surface. I'm
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not talking about doing Internet research because the Internet's.
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Just going to give you the legend. But, you know,
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digging into.
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00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:09.799
The actual newspaper accounts of the day, logs from the
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00:29:09.839 --> 00:29:12.539
Hotel Del, that sort of thing, you know, really trying
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00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:15.559
to get some as solid evidence as you can because
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00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:20.710
this happened in 1892. But it was pretty easy to
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00:29:20.789 --> 00:29:24.130
prove that she's not Kate Morgan. The tough part is
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00:29:24.190 --> 00:29:27.089
to prove that she is Lottie Bernard, which is what
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00:29:27.130 --> 00:29:29.960
she's saying. She's Lottie Bernard, which is who she registered as.
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00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:34.119
And we wound up in the exact same circumstance as
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law enforcement did back then. No next of kin, very
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00:29:37.450 --> 00:29:39.890
hard to find. There's, you know, a couple Lottie Bernard's.
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00:29:40.539 --> 00:29:42.660
as far as census records, but, you know, it's really
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00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:45.380
hard to figure out if she's the right one, you know,
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00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:48.579
that kind of thing. Whereas Kate Morgan had, you know,
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00:29:48.660 --> 00:29:51.640
tons of relatives and no one showed up to identify
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00:29:51.700 --> 00:29:55.579
the body, unfortunately. So, you know, seems like a case
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00:29:55.619 --> 00:29:56.680
of mistaken identity.
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00:29:58.289 --> 00:30:00.430
Now, I'm going to ask you the same question I
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00:30:00.470 --> 00:30:04.490
asked Willie Windwalker Gibson. Have you ever had the heck
513
00:30:04.509 --> 00:30:06.009
scared out of you doing what you do?
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00:30:07.430 --> 00:30:10.400
I really haven't. I mean, I had one circumstance where
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00:30:10.420 --> 00:30:14.700
I was pushed up against a wall, and the spirit
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00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:19.779
person actually came down over top of me. But I
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00:30:19.819 --> 00:30:21.900
did not have a sense of fear. As a matter
518
00:30:21.920 --> 00:30:23.819
of fact, I felt like I was being pushed up
519
00:30:23.880 --> 00:30:27.930
against the wall so that I wouldn't fall over. because
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00:30:28.039 --> 00:30:30.539
I got pushed against the wall, then he came down
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00:30:30.619 --> 00:30:34.619
on top. And my mother was over on the other side.
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00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:38.339
This is in her condo in San Diego. So we're
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00:30:38.380 --> 00:30:41.960
not talking a notoriously haunted place. This is just where
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00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:45.920
regular folks live. But it had been ranch land prior
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00:30:45.980 --> 00:30:50.900
to those townhouses being built there. And so what he
526
00:30:50.920 --> 00:30:54.049
was trying to do was convey to me what, things
527
00:30:54.130 --> 00:30:57.430
look like when he lived there, which was the bunkhouse.
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00:30:59.549 --> 00:31:03.509
And so I'm on the inside looking out, and it
529
00:31:03.569 --> 00:31:05.970
looks sort of like, you know, when you're about ready
530
00:31:06.069 --> 00:31:08.609
to pass out, how you get that dark cloud in
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00:31:08.650 --> 00:31:09.369
front of your face?
532
00:31:09.890 --> 00:31:12.039
No, I've never had that happen to me.
533
00:31:12.119 --> 00:31:13.819
Oh, come on. You must have done it once.
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00:31:14.130 --> 00:31:14.339
Nope.
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00:31:15.460 --> 00:31:16.099
At least once.
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00:31:16.950 --> 00:31:19.109
Anyway, it's like a dark cloud that you see in
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00:31:19.150 --> 00:31:21.130
front of your face. Now, my mother's on the other
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00:31:21.170 --> 00:31:23.029
side of the room, and she's actually.
539
00:31:22.809 --> 00:31:23.910
Seeing the cowboy.
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00:31:23.930 --> 00:31:29.000
Now, she was afraid for my safety. Being a mom,
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00:31:29.059 --> 00:31:31.339
she's looking at that going, what the hell is going on?
542
00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:35.809
But I was not afraid. He was just using that.
543
00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:38.450
As a way to communicate with me. Now, he doesn't
544
00:31:38.509 --> 00:31:41.170
need to, you know, superimpose on top of me, but,
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00:31:41.230 --> 00:31:46.430
you know, whatever. you know, that was just his way.
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00:31:46.789 --> 00:31:49.109
So what did your parents think of you doing what
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00:31:49.150 --> 00:31:49.410
you do?
548
00:31:51.109 --> 00:31:56.289
It kind of runs in the family. My grandmother was
549
00:31:56.349 --> 00:31:59.559
from England. She was born just outside of Sherwood Forest.
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00:31:59.650 --> 00:32:02.420
And so, you know, people from the UK, this is
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00:32:02.579 --> 00:32:06.559
really ordinary stuff for them. And my grandmother read tea
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00:32:06.619 --> 00:32:09.549
leaves and You know, regular decks of cards.
553
00:32:09.589 --> 00:32:10.529
She didn't do tarot.
554
00:32:10.589 --> 00:32:13.390
She learned how to read regular decks of cards from
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00:32:13.410 --> 00:32:17.250
a gypsy woman. And, you know, we did the thing with,
556
00:32:17.289 --> 00:32:20.210
you know, levitating the heaviest guy you could find with,
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00:32:20.230 --> 00:32:22.819
you know, two fingers. And these were just things that
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00:32:22.859 --> 00:32:27.740
you did on, you know, Saturday night for entertainment. And
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00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:29.960
so it really was not that big of a deal.
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00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:32.539
So you'd go down to your local pub, have a
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00:32:32.579 --> 00:32:34.220
few pints, and then levitate the guy.
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00:32:34.700 --> 00:32:36.440
Well, usually you'd do that at home, but.
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00:32:37.900 --> 00:32:41.980
Once you got the guy home, you'd levitate him. I understand.
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00:32:42.569 --> 00:32:44.349
Well, we don't want to get too personal here.
565
00:32:44.670 --> 00:32:49.670
Why not? But, you know.
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00:32:49.809 --> 00:32:52.089
You would usually there be, you know, a friend or
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00:32:52.109 --> 00:32:53.950
a friend of a friend that goes, you know, hey,
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00:32:53.990 --> 00:32:55.940
you know, that sounds really cool. And, you know, you
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00:32:55.960 --> 00:32:58.819
get together and you do it, you know. And, you know,
570
00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:02.460
it's just the levitation thing is just a parlor trick.
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00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:04.400
I don't want to give people the impression I can
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00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:10.609
levitate people because I can't. But, you know, reading tea
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00:33:10.650 --> 00:33:14.089
leaves and telling fortunes, that was just part of the
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00:33:14.150 --> 00:33:15.269
legacy of my family.
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00:33:17.170 --> 00:33:19.650
What was it like as a child being gifted?
576
00:33:21.589 --> 00:33:25.339
Well, you know, I really didn't have a real strong
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00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:28.880
awareness other than I always felt very different, and people
578
00:33:28.980 --> 00:33:33.019
always would come to me for advice. And so when
579
00:33:33.079 --> 00:33:36.539
I was, you know, in grade school and really especially
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00:33:36.579 --> 00:33:41.440
in high school, I would know everybody's secrets. And they
581
00:33:41.460 --> 00:33:43.619
would disavow knowing me when we.
582
00:33:43.539 --> 00:33:44.559
Walked down the hall.
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00:33:44.579 --> 00:33:46.700
You know, but everybody knew me.
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00:33:47.420 --> 00:33:49.480
And if they had a problem, they would come to me.
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00:33:49.619 --> 00:33:52.059
And for whatever reason, I would have, you know, just
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00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:55.779
tremendous amounts of wisdom in their mind as to how
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00:33:55.799 --> 00:33:59.230
to rectify their problems. And so it was really a
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00:33:59.269 --> 00:34:01.569
very natural kind of process for me. And so I
589
00:34:01.630 --> 00:34:05.490
didn't realize I was doing anything any differently until I
590
00:34:05.529 --> 00:34:09.570
wound up going to my high school reunion and found
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00:34:09.650 --> 00:34:12.250
out that everybody thought I was the most popular person
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00:34:12.309 --> 00:34:12.789
in school.
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00:34:12.829 --> 00:34:14.929
And it's like, are you kidding me? You guys wouldn't
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00:34:14.949 --> 00:34:17.309
even talk to me. Oh, we all knew you.
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00:34:17.329 --> 00:34:20.610
And it's like, well, yeah, because you're using me for
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00:34:20.690 --> 00:34:21.469
free readings.
597
00:34:21.650 --> 00:34:27.230
Yeah, they didn't have those little– credit card readers back.
598
00:34:27.030 --> 00:34:33.699
Then yeah exactly Ouija boards are they as evil as
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00:34:33.760 --> 00:34:36.670
people portray them to be or are they evil because
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00:34:36.750 --> 00:34:38.389
people don't know how to use them right.
601
00:34:39.510 --> 00:34:44.090
Well, there again, Ouija boards tend to be something that
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00:34:44.369 --> 00:34:48.570
teenagers do at midnight on Saturday night because they want
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00:34:48.610 --> 00:34:49.730
to scare the crap.
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00:34:49.510 --> 00:34:50.250
Out of themselves.
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00:34:50.389 --> 00:34:51.809
I must have been a strange kid. I used to
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00:34:51.849 --> 00:34:55.159
do different things at midnight on a Saturday night instead
607
00:34:55.199 --> 00:34:57.639
of using a stupid board to try and communicate with
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00:34:57.679 --> 00:35:01.030
the dead. I was interested in living back then. Ah.
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00:35:02.130 --> 00:35:05.000
Well, you know, I think it's a natural fascination. I think,
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00:35:05.059 --> 00:35:08.219
you know, the age-old question of what happens after we die.
611
00:35:09.699 --> 00:35:12.099
I don't know where we got the notion that dead
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00:35:12.139 --> 00:35:13.739
people can tell our future.
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00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:16.889
What makes them all-knowing?
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00:35:16.909 --> 00:35:19.610
Because the ones that I talk to really are like
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00:35:19.650 --> 00:35:20.190
you and I.
616
00:35:20.469 --> 00:35:22.289
Yeah, well, if they knew their future, they would have
617
00:35:22.309 --> 00:35:27.010
known how to avert from getting killed or dying, unless
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00:35:27.070 --> 00:35:27.969
it's a natural cause.
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00:35:29.199 --> 00:35:31.769
Well, you know, it's interesting when I get these, you know,
620
00:35:31.909 --> 00:35:37.050
because I'm working on these transition stories, and they're really varied.
621
00:35:37.070 --> 00:35:40.469
You know, one person died in a car accident. The
622
00:35:40.510 --> 00:35:43.320
car went end over end, flipped upside down, and he
623
00:35:43.380 --> 00:35:46.940
wound up getting impaled by a tree limb. Well, you know,
624
00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:48.219
he didn't know he was going to.
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00:35:48.179 --> 00:35:48.820
Die that day.
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00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:51.699
All right, stand by. Bonnie, you and I have to
627
00:35:51.739 --> 00:35:54.659
take our final break for this hour. Bonnie Vance, our
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00:35:54.699 --> 00:36:00.309
special guest, www.BonnieVance.com. Still to come on tonight's show, my
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00:36:00.349 --> 00:36:04.369
friend Mike Wood from the Canadian rock band Circuit. He's
630
00:36:04.389 --> 00:36:05.789
got a brand new book out. We're going to be
631
00:36:05.809 --> 00:36:08.489
talking to Mike Wood about his new book as The
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00:36:08.550 --> 00:36:11.590
Exxon continues right here live and around the world from
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00:36:11.639 --> 00:36:15.280
our studios in Hamilton, Ontario on the Talkstar Radio Network.
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Don't go away now.
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I knew a man Bojangles and he danced for you.
636
00:37:01.010 --> 00:37:03.820
And then it lightly touched down.
637
00:37:04.579 --> 00:37:11.079
I met him in a cell in New Orleans. I was.
638
00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:19.320
Down and out. Looked to me to be the eyes
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00:37:19.420 --> 00:37:23.989
of age. As the smoke ran out.
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Bonnie Vent is our special guest, www.bonnievent.com. And Bonnie, how
641
00:37:33.889 --> 00:37:35.889
haunted is San Diego?
642
00:37:37.389 --> 00:37:44.849
We have three major famously known haunted places, but you
643
00:37:44.889 --> 00:37:46.329
have to include.
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00:37:46.570 --> 00:37:48.309
Individual households, too.
645
00:37:49.929 --> 00:37:53.110
That's where most of the hauntings are occurring, to be honest.
646
00:37:53.940 --> 00:37:57.079
And I actually wrote a little e-book because I wind up,
647
00:37:57.119 --> 00:37:59.119
it was one of the most common search terms on
648
00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:03.199
my website, is my house haunted? And so I wrote
649
00:38:03.239 --> 00:38:06.139
up a little e-book that gives you some of the basics.
650
00:38:06.179 --> 00:38:09.719
It's not for paranormal investigators per se, but they might
651
00:38:09.940 --> 00:38:13.380
like giving this to potential clients before they actually go
652
00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:15.980
out because it gives them a little common sense on
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00:38:16.019 --> 00:38:18.929
what they need to do and then some forms to
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00:38:19.070 --> 00:38:22.670
actually document any activity. which is great if you're an
655
00:38:22.710 --> 00:38:25.690
investigator to have that information in your hand before you
656
00:38:25.710 --> 00:38:28.260
go in because you never want to walk in cold
657
00:38:28.300 --> 00:38:29.119
if you don't have to.
658
00:38:29.739 --> 00:38:33.800
Bonnie, what would be some of the things that could
659
00:38:33.860 --> 00:38:36.079
tip a person off that their house is haunted?
660
00:38:38.409 --> 00:38:43.210
Usually they'll find missing objects, lights going off and on.
661
00:38:43.230 --> 00:38:47.360
It's pretty classic kind of stuff. where if there is
662
00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:50.280
a spirit person there, they're just trying to get your attention.
663
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:53.329
They're not trying to scare you. But it's like a
664
00:38:53.389 --> 00:38:56.010
little kid. If they're in the room and you're ignoring them,
665
00:38:56.269 --> 00:38:56.590
let me.
666
00:38:56.550 --> 00:38:58.630
Talk a little louder because obviously you.
667
00:38:58.530 --> 00:38:59.110
Didn't hear me.
668
00:38:59.949 --> 00:39:03.690
And so ignoring the situation is probably not the best
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00:39:03.750 --> 00:39:06.469
thing to do. And even if you don't have the
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00:39:06.530 --> 00:39:10.280
ability to communicate, you can still just talk out loud.
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00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:13.619
You can also research some history.
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00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:13.920
On your house.
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00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:17.119
Talk to the neighbors. Find out if there's any kind
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00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:21.989
of legends that are surrounding your area possibly. That can
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00:39:22.010 --> 00:39:24.670
kind of give you a clue as to who might
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00:39:24.769 --> 00:39:28.329
be there. And if they're there, they have a reason
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00:39:28.389 --> 00:39:29.070
why they're there.
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00:39:29.190 --> 00:39:30.389
They always have a reason. reason.
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00:39:31.690 --> 00:39:34.170
Bonnie, it's always great talking with you. What are you
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00:39:34.190 --> 00:39:35.570
going to be doing in the near future?
681
00:39:36.269 --> 00:39:38.780
Well, right now, like I say, I'm working on this
682
00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:42.699
project where I'm actually channeling people and they're talking about
683
00:39:42.780 --> 00:39:46.940
the transition process. Also, I wanted to give a shout-out, too,
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00:39:46.980 --> 00:39:50.389
for the Villa Montezuma because it's currently closed. The foundation
685
00:39:50.570 --> 00:39:55.030
needs work. And so if you go to my website,
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00:39:55.269 --> 00:39:58.869
and on the left-hand side it says Villa Montezuma, there's
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00:39:58.909 --> 00:40:01.090
a place there where you can donate to the Friends
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00:40:01.130 --> 00:40:03.980
of the Villa Montezuma to fix the foundation of the house.
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00:40:04.599 --> 00:40:06.400
And you need to put on the memo line that
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00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:09.820
it's specifically to fix the foundation of the Villa Montezuma
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00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:12.179
so that they can't use it for anything other than that.
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00:40:13.139 --> 00:40:16.059
and that would be really helpful because it's a beautiful
693
00:40:16.139 --> 00:40:20.099
Queen Anne Victorian, which was designed by Jesse Shepard, who's
694
00:40:20.179 --> 00:40:23.179
one of the people I've communicated with as well. And
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00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:25.400
we'd really like to get the house back up and
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00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:26.000
running again.
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00:40:26.599 --> 00:40:29.570
Bonnie, thanks very much for joining us tonight. Continued success,
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00:40:29.619 --> 00:40:31.619
and always look forward to the next time you're with
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00:40:31.699 --> 00:40:33.090
us here in the X Zone.
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00:40:33.110 --> 00:40:34.570
Well, I'll keep you posted, Rob.
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00:40:34.710 --> 00:40:35.150
Please do, Bonnie.
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00:40:35.230 --> 00:40:36.969
It's never a dull moment, I tell you.
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00:40:37.250 --> 00:40:40.230
Take care, and if you need somebody to get into
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00:40:40.269 --> 00:40:41.190
trouble with, give me a call.
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00:40:41.760 --> 00:40:44.719
Well, you know, you have all my documentation, so, you know,
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00:40:44.760 --> 00:40:46.800
you can keep me honest this time. So, you know,
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00:40:46.820 --> 00:40:48.980
it's always good when you can prove out your evidence.
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00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:49.960
You're honest.
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00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:52.019
Yeah, I don't know that that many people are actually
710
00:40:52.090 --> 00:40:52.550
doing that.
711
00:40:52.949 --> 00:40:56.670
No, they're not. Believe me. Bonnie, take care of yourself.
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00:40:56.710 --> 00:40:57.670
We'll speak to you soon.
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00:40:58.130 --> 00:40:59.170
All righty. Thank you.
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00:40:59.309 --> 00:41:01.869
Take care, sweetie. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. When we come back from
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the news on the other side at the top of
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00:41:03.510 --> 00:41:05.590
the hour, Mike Wood is going to be joining me.
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00:41:05.690 --> 00:41:09.570
Mike is with the Canadian Rock Sensational Band, Circuit. And
718
00:41:09.610 --> 00:41:11.449
he's now an author. So we're going to be speaking
719
00:41:11.489 --> 00:41:14.420
to a Canadian rocker, gone author, on the other side
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of the news as the X-Zone continues live and around
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00:41:16.929 --> 00:41:18.889
the world right here on the Talk Star Radio.