Rob McConnell Interviews - LORI AND BILL McDONALD - Alien UFO Art

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Oh horry, Welcome to the Exisone, a place where fact
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is fiction and fiction is reality. Now here's your host,
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Robert konnell.
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You to in that thing YouTube, bringing my hearty into
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a million pieces.
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Like you always do.
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And you.
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Don't need to be cool in there either. About the party,
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I answer.
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Chi, it gets you.
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Again every time.
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And welcome back to the X Zone everyone. I am
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Rob McConnell, and for the next two hours, I'm your
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XZBN dot net, x O Nation. My first guest tonight
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is Laurie MacDonald and she is the founder and owner
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of alien Ufo Art. The website is alienufo art dot com.
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She is a fluid artist, author, and Arizona native. Has
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been conducting paranormal investigations in both California and Arizona since
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nineteen ninety eight. Her investigations have been featured on Channel
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fifteen and Arizona on three separate occasions. She's been a
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guest on KDKB Radio twice. Her Wheelyhouse ghost photography was
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televised on Fact or Fate. She has had many paranormal
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experiences as a child while visiting her grandparents who lived
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in a haunted house in California. Joining me now is
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Laurie MacDonald and Laurie, welcome back.
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To the exeon.
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How are things in Arizona?
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They are wonderful, and thank you for having me on xone.
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Well, Laurie, it's great having you with us, and please
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give my very best to Bill, who I understand is
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sitting right beside you.
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I'm here and it's a pleasure. Rob.
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Laurie, tell us about Mount Shasta's UFO sightings and platonic
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solids that you've investigated her, you know about.
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Okay, So in nineteen ninety five, I was in Mount
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Shasta at the homecoming conference and I was with two
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of my friends and we witness seeing a UFO and
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it was down a dark road and my friend was
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driving the car, and all of a sudden, it just
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felt like somebody took over the control of the car.
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And before we knew it, we were like chanting and
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praying and oh my gosh, what's going on and crying.
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It was really scary. And it all started with the
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cloud that Kim saw above the car. She kept saying, oh,
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what is that weird cloud? Everybody look at that cloud
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and like, you know, so, all of a sudden, like
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I said, the car was taken over and it was
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like a tunnel. And then before we knew it. We
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were at the end of the road and we gained
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control of the car. We drove to our hotel, and
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that whole entire night I had dreams of the platonic solids,
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only at that time I didn't know what they were called.
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I just remember three D platonic solid shapes rotating in
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laser light red like a hologram in front of me,
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rotating around and around each shape. And so when I
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woke up the next morning, I said to my friends,
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you know, the whole night I had this very strange
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dream of these shapes, and then we had to get
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up and we had to get ready for the next
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day at the convention that we were at, and so
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we made light of it because we just didn't know
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what else to do. We all woke up with headaches,
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and so that's what happened with the platonic solids. I
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really got heavily into platonic solids when I was at
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the gym and Minerals show and I stumbled across the
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platonic solids and I saw the shapes made of quartz,
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and I said to my friend, what are those? And
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Claude said, those are platonic solids.
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Now, can you just ribe what they are for our listeners.
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Well, they've been around for a very very long time,
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and they're geometric shapes and they have certain many different
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sides for each one. There's trying to go to what
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it's easier if I go to that area. Oh yeah,
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so there's there's like a dodakrahedron, there's a tetrahedron, hexahedron, octahedron,
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and an icosahedron. And I don't know if anybody is
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aware or has ever looked that up, but they are
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very beautiful shapes. And what do you think about the
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platonic solids?
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Bill Rob The platonic solids exist in nature and manifest
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in some mineral forms. They're basically multi sided. A square
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as an example, when it's a cube, I see, A
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sphere is not it has to have different sites. The
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most famous platonic solid was Carl Sagan's favorite, which was
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a dough dectahedron.
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Yeah, that has let's see twelve faces, twenty vertices, thirty edges,
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three pentagons, and the tetrahedron has three triangles that meet
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at each vertex and four faces, four vertices and six edges.
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So it's you know, it's like geometry. It's like sacred geometry,
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and what is geometry?
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It's a literally a universal mathematical language. Yeah, go ahead,
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where regardless of what kind of life form you are,
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the math is the same everywhere in the universe. Physics
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is the same everywhere in the universe. Therefore, once you
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can express the mathematics within the physics, you have a
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basis for a language. When you're communicating with something that
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can fare off into space and for which you have
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utterly nothing in common, you do have the mathematics plus
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the mathematics of navigation.
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It's a universal language. But also an interesting thing is
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that through my research I found out that the sacred
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geometry of the Platonic solids was used in building the
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sacred monuments in ancient temples and mosques and holy sites.
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They did use the knowledge of the sacred geometry for that.
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Well, I'm just wondering, Laurie, if this has something to
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do with the crop circles.
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Oh, yeah, definitely, that's a good op servation, because they
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do have like Metatron's cube that has been on a
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crop circle.
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Also, the crop circles sometimes show iconic symbology that isn't
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representational of any kind of a circle or anything like that.
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And if you look at some of the ancient Sanskrit
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languages and some of the earliest languages from prehistoric times
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that were inscribed or written down anywhere, some of those
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icons look literally like they could have come from India
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or somewhere like that.
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Gotcha, Laurie, how did the UFO encounter that you and
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your friends have. During the encounter, did you have any
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recollection of someone or something trying to communicate with you?
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No, it was basically that the car was taken over
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her and my friend. She didn't even even have her
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foot on the accelerator because she she said, oh my god,
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she said, look my foot, I took it off the
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accelerator to slow down. The car's not slowing down. We
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were going an even speed even though we were on
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a dirt road, a bumpy dirt road. When that happened,
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it was smooth like we were gliding. And so that
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whole entire time we were panic stricken going down the
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going down that road to go on the main highway,
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and we finally, you know, we got control of the
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car at the very end where we were going to
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turn right to go to our hotel, but we didn't.
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I didn't really have any recollection of anything like aliens
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or anything like that. And then I looked to see
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if we had missing time because I thought, you know,
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this is really weird that this happened. I mean, we
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didn't really have missing time. But the only thing that
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I thought was so strange was the dream. Because that's
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also known as envisioning dreams that people people that are
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abducted have these types of dreams. I've heard of other
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people that have had seen platonic solids on while they've
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been abducted.
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Really, a lot of researchers have identified this pattern of
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expression as an organized and protracted program that is utilized
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on many different persons that are taking up for purposes
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of examination or whatever.
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It can be used to erase your memory or cause
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a screen memory in place of something that really took place.
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Or something they don't want you to remember.
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And hypnotherapy doctor Debraah Truncali offered to do hypnotherapy on me,
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and I said, absolutely not. I was just so frightened
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at the thought of doing hip therapy.
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When you put Laurie under examination, she immediately shuts it down. Immediately.
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She doesn't like doctor z all that much.
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In this day and age, I don't know many people
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who do. Bill and Laurie McDonald our our special guest
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this hour, and the website is alienufo art dot com.
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We've got to take our first break, so please stand
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by xonation. This is the X Zone. I'm Rob McConnell,
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coming to you from our broadcast center and studios in
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Saint Catharine's, Ontario, Canada. If you'd like to send me
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an email, email address is the same as it's been
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for many years now X Zone at Classic twelve twenty
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dot CA or X Zone at Xxonradio TV dot com. Bill,
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Laurie and I will be back on the other side
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of the short break as we continue investigating the strange,
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the bizarre, the paranormal, parapsychology and much more. Here we
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search for the answers, but we demand the truth. I'm
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Rob McConnell.
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Don't go away.
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I can't stop the spy. Then deep the side on me.
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Just don'torry last what you did tell me?
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Do?
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You let me know everything?
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Welcome back everyone. Bill and Laurie McDonald are special guest
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this hour. Www dot ALIENUFO art dot com. Laurie, since
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that encounter, have you had dreams considering the the way
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that the first dream affected you, Not.
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Of the platonic solids, but I have had dreams of
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you know, UFOs, UFOs shining lights in the windows, UFOs
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all over the sky and everybody running things like that,
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very scary nightmares.
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In your opinion, the occupants of these UFOs, do they
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pose a threat to humanity?
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I would I don't really know, because I mean I've
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heard that they do, and I've heard other people that
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say that they can be healing, that they're here to
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save the planet, that they that they've come and stop
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nuclear attacks. So I really don't know. I mean, there
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are people that are very frightened from the experiences, and
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like I said, it's controversial.
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Bill take a more militaristic view. The doctor David Jacobs
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was very explicit with his feeling that they represented a
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threat and that they were managing us the way humans
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manage cattle or any kind of agricultural commodity. And so
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that's more of my opinion on that subject.
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I think more the threat is the exposure from the
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UFO itself.
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The unknown, the possibility of what it could be.
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I'm thinking that we're being harvested for different things and
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not just planetary resources like potable water or minerals.
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What do you think the the final objective is a Bill, I.
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Think that intelligent life is not very conservation minded. I
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think that through most of the history of intelligent life,
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worlds have been harvested, they have been stripped of their resources,
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and then the harvesters move on.
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Mm hmm.
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That's that's chilling. That's that's a horrifying thought.
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It's what we do to the chimpanzees in their environments
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throughout Africa.
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That is so true. Something you send us, Laurie, It
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says chilling et experiencer research group invitation.
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M HM.
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Tell me about that.
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Okay, so many years later I was contacted, Well, Bill
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and I were contacted by a scientist and Bill was
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telling me how they wanted my sample because I'd heard
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of my UFO event and they were interested in studying me,
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studying my DNA, my blood, doing an MRI scan, etc. Etc.
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And I thought, Oh, come on, Bill, you've been watching
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too much sci fi. I said, this is true. I
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want to talk to this person. You have this person
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call me, And he did so the scientists did actually
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call and we had email exchange.
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An explicit email exchange. Fortunately understood exactly what he was
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writing about. Long story, short rub It's very simple. People
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claim that they're abductees, whether it's posthumous or whether they're
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still alive. It's possible to verify their stories through a
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medical means. There's two major ways that they need to
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do in order to put that data together very fast.
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They sequence your DNA, and if they find specific patterns
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in the uncoded sequences of your DNA, then what they're
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seeing is gene markers. It only occur in people who
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have experienced that elaborate experience. At the same time, they
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put your head through an MRI because the brain bodies
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are exposed to non ionizing radiation omnidirectionally. When you're passing
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through the spinning electromagnetic fields that somehow divorced the vehicle
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from gravity, similar to the bifiled Brown effect, can actually
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limitate things. Unfortunately, that effect involves particles and air mass.
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What we're talking something more along the lines of microwaves.
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What that the scientist told me. Specifically, because I'm not
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a doctor, I'm quoting right. The DNA test was for
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abduction related biological information and markers consistent with others who
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were abductees. There were medical statistics that showed a high
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in some cases one hundred percent of abductees and in
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near field UFO incidents that had epigenetic damage and stress
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hormone related DNA, And that's why he wanted for me
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to participate. But for me personally, I chose not to.
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But that's not to say, you know, it's anybody's their
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own individual choice, and I'm all for whatever anybody decides
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that they want to do. But for me personally, I
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didn't want to be subjected to that, and I felt
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that I didn't have any control over whatever was done
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with my bodily fluids, DNA, brain scans, Who was going
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to look at it, what they were going to do
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with it, So I chose not to. I mean, in
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a way it offended me.
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Epigenetics is a collection of sciences and disciplines that relate
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to the complex molecules that surround each three point two
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billion base pair sequence of DNA inside of every single
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chromosome in our bodies. In each cell of our bodies,
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gene markers come from the intrusion of those proteins into
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the actual DNA sequencing, marking it at specific locations unique
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for that stressor event.
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Also, I was also told by the scientists that quote
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unquote the reason why that they wanted the MRI was
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because the trauma of the UFO exposure caused superficial burns
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in the lobes on and within the layers of the
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human brain, and that they could see this.
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And the pattern is specific because it must be from
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passing through an omnidirectional set.
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It was from the UFO propulsion exposure, is what I
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was told, and it created a pattern of inflammation.
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If I point an airplane rate at you, you're going
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to get nailed with microwave radiation. But it's coming from
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one direction. For it to be anomalous in origin, it
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has to be coming from every direction at once. So
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you get like the sunburn on the various bodies of
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the brain. You're a magdola, you're hypothalamus, your thalamus, all
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of these interior bodies of the brain get a very
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light sunburn effect.
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Now was this scientist Was he a private individual or
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or was he part of the government.
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Both.
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Oh, you should have seen his sixteen page resume. He
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was affiliated with so many governmental agencies it was scary.
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You already know who he is. He's part of the
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research group that was part of the Skinwalker Ridge examinations
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back when Bigelow was owning the ranch.
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Oh really, yeah, it's Kit Green. So whatever happened with
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Skinwalker Ranch, we don't hear about it anymore.
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That's not true. What's on TV and Travis Taylor is
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running complex investigations that are showing directed electromagnetic expressions that
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are beyond anybody in this world's ability to.
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Control directed and also geometric or geomagnetic earth anomalies. We're
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causing field anomalies. They were able to measure them.
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We us you familiar with the physics of portals. No
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portals is basically when you get an offset dimension to
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briefly intersect with our four dimensional length with height and
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time dimension of reality, which is where you and I
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are sitting right now, and that creates an opening, a
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brief opening that things can pass through, or that energy
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can be conveyed through, or transmissions. And apparently some of
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these portals get created by nature and some of them
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have to be created by technology using power sources like
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nuclear fusion if it were to be stabilized. We don't
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have stabilized nuclear fusion as far as the public is
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concerned anywhere on Earth. But Skinwalker Ridge, along with other
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areas on the planet, seem to be expressing anomalous geophysical
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energy that's able to move in a vortex type circular
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pattern within a specific location.
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So, Bill, what do you think is happening at Skinwalker Range,
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Because I'd just like to say something that it used
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to be we were able to wash it up here book,
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we don't anymore. It's available to us up here in Canada.
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The show's coming back. There was something called a writer's
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strike and for business reasons it was put off. A
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new season starts in four weeks.
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Oh, super, I'll have to get my guy to find
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it and download it for me.
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So, yeah, it's they've already advertised it.
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So Bill, is is this a place, Skinwalker Ranche a
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place of alien going on? Or is it, in your opinion, nature.
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Or is it?
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Well, it could be both, because it's been going on
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for far longer than the Whites, including the Spanish Conquista
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doors or even the Templars, have been in the area.
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I do know that they have had cattle mutilations on
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that land.
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They tested Lori and she hit a grand slam home
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run with an episode of remote viewing back in nineteen
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ninety nine. And that was NIDS that did that with Laurie.
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What did you develop your your ability to do remote viewing, Laurie?
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They just I didn't. I don't have it's just psychic.
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They call it remote viewing.
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She was born with it, but.
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Developing I've always been like this, very intuitive. And what
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they did is it was Eric who.
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Should Eric Davis.
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Eric called and he said.
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I'll put off.
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I want you to do this test. And I'm like,
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I'm He says, I'll I'll do. I'll give you. I'll
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send you a piece of paper with coordinates in the mail.
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And I got that and I.
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Said, but all right, guys, we've got to take a break.
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We'll be right back as the Xcelle continues with here
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as truly Rob McConnell from our broadcast center in studios
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in Saint Catherine's, Ontario, Canada.
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Whatever you do, don't go away.
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I don't mean.
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Holo.
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I rate this Sember back in sixty three, What a
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very session time for me. I remember the.
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Hola.
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You don't.
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Even know how me, but I was never gonna be
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the same.
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For the lady Wayne, I don't want it even when
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she wants.
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Bill McDonald and Laurie McDonald are our guests this Hour
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Explanation their website alienufo art dot com. Here's a question
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to both of you. With all the experiments that are
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being done to those people who have had experiences or
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have been abducted, is there a possibility that because of
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their event they can actually suffer from PTSD.
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Oh, definitely yes, just two words hell yes.
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And also more than post traumatic stress. There's also a
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lot of landmark cases.
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With with UFO.
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Exposure that I have in my book. Also, they have
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from the UFO exposure. They have injuries from seeing the UFO,
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being exposed to the UFO propulsion kit.
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Green specifically cited certain kinds of autoimmune diseases, diseases that
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affect the skin, things like that.
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Would they also all right if the brain is affected?
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But some people think of as Alzheimer's or other diseases
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like that. Could this have been caused by an interaction
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with the UFO?
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Theoretically? Absolutely? Do we have any proof none?
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He never said anything about Alzheimer's or anything like that.
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It was more specific.
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Dementia was never mentioned in any way, shape.
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Or form, and he had like fifty people or more
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or or less in his group. He also had control people,
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you know, for the because it was scientific.
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Why is it that a proper experiment going that was
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being funded by pharmaceutical companies.
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Why is it that the private sector is doing more
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to investigate what the claims of those who have had
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UFO experiences had for second third content have been abducted?
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This goes back to President Nixon. He divorced this kind
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of research and investigation from congressional oversight back during the
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Apollo eleven and the subsequent Apollo missions. It was transferred
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to the private sector because people who are getting paid
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significant amounts of money in the private sector are far
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more reliable to go to their deathbeds without spilling the
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beans because of their retirement packages. Where as public servants
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and I had met plenty in my investigations on the
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Roswell case. You get them on their deathbeds, they're dying
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of cancer, the opiates where off. It's the last thirty
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six hours, and they're confirming everything that they kind of
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threw in your direction over time. The best time to
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get at people as when they're very, very close to
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the time of their death. I know that sounds a
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little bit. Yeah, it's a little bit like being a vulture.
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But if you really want to know about aerospace secrets,
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if you really want to know about anything related to
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the engineering as spyplanes or sources of engineering and where
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they came from, the time to get these guys is
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when there's no more pain management. Cancer cancer kills half
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of all natural cause of deaths all old age. You're
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either dying in an organ failure, which is somewhat painful,
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or you're dying of cancer, which most of the time
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is very painful.
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In your opinion, Bill, what happened at Roswell.
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They recovered a vehicle that was not of this earth,
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something that was not assembled. It was grown. It was mental,
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crystalline in nature, and its flight controls, its operating systems,
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everything mimic the function, structure, and form of certain kinds
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of sea animals.
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Wow, so it was a biological craft.
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It functioned with the degree of sophistication, but there was
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no organic chemistry inside the vehicle itself other than the
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flight crew that had blended mentally mental remote control of
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technical systems, which is something the Air Force has already
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demonstrated for decades.
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Why do you think the government is keeping everything hush.
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Hush, Well, it's not what you think it's about.
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They don't want to create panic.
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For one thing, I disagree. The number one reason is
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about money. If you introduce this kind of thing slowly
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into the manufacture of all the technologies that go in
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everything we consume, a consumer based economy profits over the
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long term with the trickle down economics, the upside down
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pyramid trickling back to these guys who recovered everything. This
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goes all the way back to when Nixon finally was
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able to take this whole thing away from congressional oversight.
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What's your opinion, Laurie.
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My opinion is that there are certain circumstances where people
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are exposed to the UFO injuries. They have physical injuries,
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and who's to say where these UFOs are they ours?
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Are they real UFOs? Are they government run UFOs? We
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don't know, but the government doesn't want to pay if
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you have radiation exposure from somebody that's witnessed a UFO,
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So you know there is proof of people that have
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witnessed the UFOs. There's proof of UFO exposure from these
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witness from you know, the sightings. And there are cases
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where let's see, it was the cash Landrum incident.
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Again radiation exposure.
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Now to me, that sounds like it was from our
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government or a government and they were just trying to
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cover up because they didn't want to pay for what
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happened to them.
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And remember, non ionizing radiation as well as particle radiation
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always expresses itself into living tissue as burns a burning effect,
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profound burning.
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Because they did try to file a multimillion dollar lawsuit
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against the government for that, and the case was so
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controversial it was dismissed. So why would the government admit
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to anything like that?
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Well, if the if these these energies are able to
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Charver's time and space, why are we so sure that
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nuclear energy or you know, radioactivity is involved. Is it possible?
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In my opinion, it's they're probably operating propulsion. Breakthrough propulsion
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physics technology is about ten thousand years in advance of us.
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They're probably about two million years biologically evolved ahead of us.
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You may be right, but how do you force or
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express electromagnetic radiation, which is a force magnetism. How do
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you make magnetism obey you without a profound technology, which
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means you need incredible amounts of energy. You need a
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power plant to produce the energy. The only thing that
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I know of in the U universe it does that
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effectively is matter an anti matter interaction.
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Is it possible that we have actually developed that technology
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and it has kept under very tight security from reverse engineering?
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That's what ben Rich told some of my associates that
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move on back in the day, and that's what he
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told me hours before he died back in ninety five.
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All Right, So what is the sense of the congressional
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hearings if the government knows that this is all a wash?
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Because here's the thing. The pilots aren't going to be
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quiet anymore. They're tired of feeling like they have to
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carry boulders of security on their shoulders. The sick and
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tired of it. They think it's a whole lot of malarity,
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especially the Navy guys, because the Navy's always taken the
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lead on this sort of thing, even over the Air
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Force historically, and that goes all the way back to
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Nixon and his relationship with the submarine guy who wasn't
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admiratly was like ninety years old, rickover, Hymen, Rickover. But
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this just goes on and on and on, and the
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pilots are sick of it. These things come in and
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out of water, which is eight hundred times more dense
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than the atmosphere just above it, and these things are
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moving as if they're simply moving through a cloud or
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moving through an expression of heat. They don't seem to
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be affected by the material in any way. Now, underwater,
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there's technologies called cavitation that they're experimenting with for both
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submarine halls and torpedoes, where if you vibrate it fast enough,
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you force the water density to reduce instantaneously, allowing a
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torpedo shaped to fly through it faster. Underwater, then you're
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flying underwater instead of swimming underwater. The same thing with
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the atmosphere, but we're dealing with trans atmospheric trans atmospheric
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expressions of propulsion, where the skin of the vehicle, whether
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it's underwater, in the air, or in space, is the
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actual engine, but the power plant would be at the
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gravitational center of the vehicle producing the energy that is
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transferred and converted into magneto aero electrodynamics in an atmosphere,
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magneto hydro dynamics in a fluid medium, and into some
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form of what help put Off used to talk about
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as the engineering of vacuum, the zero point energy field,
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something like that. Once you're free of the atmosphere but
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not free of a gravity.
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Well, we've got to take our final break for this hour.
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Bill and Laurisill please stand by exhnation. Bill and Laurie
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MacDonald our special guests. Their website is Alien ufo art
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dot com at www dot ufo. I'm sorry www Dot
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alienufo art dot com, and we'll all be back on
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the other side of this break as we wrap up
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the first hour of tonight show here in the X
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Zone with your's truly Rob McConnell, and we're coming to
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you from our broadcast enter and studios in Saint Catharines, Ontario, Canada.
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If you'd like to send me an email Xzone at
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Classic twelve twenty dot ca, or you can visit all
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Don't go away. We'll be right back on the other
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Holloa wait this smer back in sixty three.
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What a special time for me?
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Remona Helloa Collen me.
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You come may call on me on.
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Sellen me.
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Yeah, welcome back with you on this is the X
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on the final hour of this first hour of tonight show.
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That's because we come to you Monday through Friday from
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ten pm Eastern until midnight from our studios and broadcast
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Broadcast network. And you're listening to us right here on
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your hometown radio Classic twelve twenty and streaming around the
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world on Classic twelve twenty dot CA. Bill McDonald and
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Lori McDonald our special guests this hour their website alienufoart
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dot com. First of all, guys, thanks very much for
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coming on the show. Has been great having you back
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after all these years. And Bill wanted to give us
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a kind of list.
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Okay, first of all, my wife has done some very
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very detailed research into this area because she has the time,
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because she works from home, and the Defense Intelligence Agency
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of the United States is the military version of the
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Central Intelligence Agency, and all of the agencies have to
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greater and lesser degrees picked up a number of medical
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consequences to being in the immediate vicinity of a vehicle
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that's hovering or landing.
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This is in chapter two of my.
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Book Thedia actually documented within its reports. It's called exposure
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to a near field event, referring to those spinning electromagnetic
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fields that cook you with non ionizing radiation. Now immediately afterwards,
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the vast majority of persons exposed experienced nosebleeds, ringing in
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the ears, mental problems leading to a loss of appetite
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that led to weight loss. Other causes for weight loss
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an expansion of extrasensory perception abilities that was shocking and
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disturbing to a lot of these people. Implants, especially the
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kind that were researched by doctor John Leear, who was
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a dear friend until he passed away some years ago,
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were recovered. The loss of the ability to taste, kind
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of like COVID hearing damage. Hearing damage on par with
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what happens to the guy's like me when you're around
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fat AND's too much itching, profound itching of the skin,
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gynecological problems, breathing problems, including something that looks like that
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chronic reactive airwave disease that a lot of people get
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from different jobs throughout their lives. But the weird thing
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is it doesn't involve dust, it doesn't involve chemicals, it
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doesn't involve particulates in the atmosphere. It involves radiation where
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it's pure energy radiation. Radiation that includes microwaves at one
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end of this sprea radio waves at that same end,
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and then you have X rays at the high end,
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and even gamma radiation exposure. So this is where that
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brain body sunburn comes in, because it functions like X
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rays in the way in which it goes through your
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skin and gets you like what happens when these really
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cruel children put hamsters and mice and microwaves back in
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the seventies. It doesn't to you like that, but they
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whisked you through it fast enough to where you don't
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suffer the same effects to the same degree, but the
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consequences remain in the human body. On the human body,
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in the form of burns and lesions that were caused
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by expressed heat. Did that make sense?
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Well, I'm just going to ask you. You know, with
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all the cell phone cell phone towers that are around,
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microwave towers that are around people who keep the putting
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their their cell phones to their ears instead of using
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the hands free, could this also be part of the problem.
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Absolutely, I don't know, because what was explained to me
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was that they had specific gene markers for this. I see,
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and I don't think it was the same for being
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exposed to cell phones.
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But remember, gene markers are caused by profound psychological disturbances
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such as war, such as stranger rape, even more so
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if it's a known family member, rape really profound.
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And also it doesn't show up on the MRI the
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same either, like a cell phone if you're exposed to
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that is, it shows up differently on an MRI. Cell
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phones was explained to us.
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Cell phones don't generate the amount of power, and it's
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not controlled. It radiates omni directionally, so and it's low
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energy because it's low power. Comparatively speaking, if I were
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to illuminate you with a radar dish from an F
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eighteen after I jacked it up by its wings and
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took the weight off the wheels. Your burns inside now
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would be far more profound, even though at varying distances
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the effect ease is off. It's called wave propagation, but
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we can talk about that in the future. Sure I
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want people to know is is that my wife did
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an extraordinary amount of research and putting together a book
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that anybody can read from the age of seven all
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the way up to the age of one hundred and seven.
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It's thoroughly enjoyable. It's not super long, and once you're
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reading my wife's book, you'll also notice it's heavily illustrated.
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That was my contribution to the book, after she took
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some of her computer programs and actually improved a bunch
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of my drawings. So we're a team and she's the boss,
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and I just want people to know that they're really
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going to enjoy this. And also her original Help for
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the Haunted book that's also been out on its second
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edition right now. Both of them are found easily on
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Amazon at the website and at our website. Laurie McDonald
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author and then Help for the Haunted and UFO Exposure
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Health Injuries of Close Encounter UFO. In these two books
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function like bookends. They actually go together very well.
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Laurie told me about some of your paintings.
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You're a UFO alien art.
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Okay, well that is Bill's. But what I did is
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I took his black and white images, his pen and ink,
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and I put him through computer programs, oh, Photoshop, different
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things like that, and I enhanced them with color. So
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in the back of the book we have several of
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his wonderful images I've just enhanced them with.
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And she gave me the cover assignment to which.
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Like lightning, I enhanced them with, you know, cosmic things,
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and I don't know just well, it's in the book,
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but it's also if you want to see the images,
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it's you can purchase that too. When Laurie's it's online
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on my website.
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When Laurie's doing her artwork, something grabs her and she
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phases out and she does anomalous intuition whether she's working
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on something on my artwork, or whether she's doing all
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of her pourings with all the different chemistry she uses.
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And that didn't start until like what five years ago,
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I spontaneously started painting. I'd never painted before ever, and she.
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Has missing time while she paints. But yet when you
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look at her, she's been in the kitchen the whole time.
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Two hours, three hours, she doesn't remember it, five hours
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she doesn't remember it. In her art studio, and yet
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the artwork is finished, the paint is drying. And I
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like using extrasensory perception. I like using anomalous intuition. These
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are military terms.
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But your black and white images were based on witness testimony.
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Well, I'm an old fashioned gumshoe private eye. I've been
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a detective since before there was an Internet. And the
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interesting thing is is that nobody elicits statements from witnesses
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more carefully than I do. I've made that my very
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special thing. I also like to cross coaborate different details
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from different witnesses, looking for common patterns and trends. I
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also have a built in bullshit detective. I know if
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somebody's lying to me. I know if they're fabricating, which
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is a conscious act. But do not confuse confabulation with lying.
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Confabulation is a subconscious effect that works in the human brain,
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where the human brain fills in gaps in its memory
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because it needs to psychologically because of trauma that it
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does not yet understand.
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Is that part of the paradolia.
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Yes, definitely, you cannot where you see face in the clouds.
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Right absolutely, You cannot call a confabulating personal liar.
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They really believe it.
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If I, as a detective, I'm talking to you and
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you believe every word of what you're saying, and fifteen
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other witnesses say you're completely out of your mind, it
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doesn't make you a liar because if I put you
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on a lie detector machine, guess what I'll pass. You
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still pass. So never confuse lying with confabulation. That's a
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huge no no.
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In your opinion. Out of all the UFO reports that
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come into the different agencies and the different organizations, what
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percentage would you say are real UFO sightings or abductions
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or contacts?
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No lying is involved in probably twelve percent and less
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than six percent are reliably anomalous. In other words, ninety
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four percent can be written off as something where we
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understand what it is, what the cause is, what the
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effect is, what the you know, the phenomena is something
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like weather, something like man made something that could be pyrokinetic.
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Right, Well, guys, I hate to do this, but the
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time has come when you and I must say so
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long as always great talking to the both of you. LORII,
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congratulations on all you do, and Bill keep up the
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great work and quickly give our listeners your websites once more.
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It's www. Dot alien, UFO art A L I E
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n U f O A r T dot com one word.
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We also own dot organ dot net. Other thing is
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the book is called UFO Exposure Health Injuries of Close
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Encounter UFO Incidents. Laurie is l O r I McDonald
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just like the hamburger Man.
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Mc d O n A l D.
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Help for the Haunted. A guide to house blessings, ghost
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clearings and spiritual self protection.
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All right, guys, want to thank you so much for
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joining us tonight. I'll be back on the other side
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of this break as the xone continues with our number
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two from our broadcast Entrance Studios in St. Catherine's, Ontario, Canada,
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