Fourth Wing Chapter 17 - Part 1

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The Wing Readers. Welcome to The Wing Readers,
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where we deep dive into the Empyrean series.
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chapter by chapter, theorize and overanalyze.
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I'm Abby. I'm John. I'm Shikasi. And today we
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are covering Fourth Wing Chapter 17. Here is
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your friendly reminder about spoilers, yada yada,
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you know the deal by now. So we are going to
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go right into a battle brief. And in case there's
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anyone out there who just really does not care
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about our battle briefs, totally get it. There
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are timestamps in the description. I always forget
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to. say that early on before people might start
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skipping anyway. So yeah, a little battle brief
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about my personal health journey, if anybody
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is interested in hearing it. So I went to my
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physiatry appointment yesterday. So physiatry,
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for anyone who doesn't know, is physical medicine
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and rehabilitation. They take a real holistic
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look at the entire body and They, their, their
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main goal is to get people like out of pain and
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functioning better with medication as like a
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last resort. So that's not really what they do.
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It's not quite a pain management clinic in that
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sense. But yeah, so I met with a physiatrist
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and she actually did like a full body movement
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assessment, which was new for me, which you would
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think wouldn't be new for me based on all of
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my problems. But yeah, so she really heard me
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out. We talked about a lot of things. And I did
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tell her that I thought that I had some hypermobility.
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So after the test, she did say that I have a
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lot of laxity in my joints, meaning that they
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can move more than they're supposed to, but not
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in every joint. So technically, I am not hypermobile.
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And this is where I got confused because, first
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of all, I've never heard of laxity. And when
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I was Googling it, the only thing I could come
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up with as a phrase is ligament laxity. Because
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otherwise you just get the definition of the
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phrase laxity, which is like when things are
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flexible or whatever. But yeah, like that never
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came up when I was talking to my doctor or my
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physical therapists. The only word that came
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up was hypermobility. That's the only word I
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asked about. My doctor had me do the little hypermobility
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test, which is just like bending in a bunch of
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weird ways. My understanding is that it doesn't
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have to be every joint. It just has to hit a
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certain threshold. And you get like points for
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each thing. And if you get a certain number of
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points, then that counts as whatever amount of
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hypermobile. And hypermobility itself is like
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a range as well. hit enough of the points to
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count for the scale but not all of my joints
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are as bendy as some of the super crazy examples
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that you'll see on the internet and so I'm considered
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like moderately hypermobile okay yeah maybe for
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that I should get another opinion which just
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feels so daunting because she said literally
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the only joints that she tested that are not
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hypermobile are my hips and I have so many problems
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with my hips and they used to be a lot more mobile
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than they currently are, but they are so tight
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and so messed up lately that they can't quite
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move very well. Two points about hips. One is
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that even in people who are hypermobile, the
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hypermobility can decrease with age because even
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hypermobile people's joints will stiffen up with
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age. The other thing is that with hypermobility,
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with all of the joints being so lax and flexible
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and not supporting you, a lot of times the pelvic
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floor and the hips are what tighten up to balance
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all of that out. So you can end up with really
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tight hips. And I've had this too, which is the
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other thing I went to PT for. So that to me is
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a... From the little bit of research that I've
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done is a very normal pattern in hypermobile
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people. So it's interesting that she's using
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that as like the thing to rule out. A disqualifier.
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Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. But we learned a
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new word. Yes, we learned a new word. So, yeah,
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basically, she also reviewed the MRI of my knees.
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back from 2023 and she was like oh so did they
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ever tell you that you have patella femoral syndrome
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and i'm like what so no the answer is no that
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basically means that my kneecap is not really
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in its correct place on both knees oh and so
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when it so when it goes it's supposed to like
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glide nicely over the bone and mine does not
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Mine don't do that. And it's been a problem for
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so long that when my bones were still forming,
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they formed around the kneecap. So there's no
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fixing it. There's no getting it to where it
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needs to be. The bones are like jutting out on
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either side of my kneecap instead of the kneecap
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fully being over the leg bones. that's fun oh
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so she basically told me she's like yeah this
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is just something that like you're gonna have
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to live with for your life like this is always
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gonna be a problem um she was like really the
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only things she was like like we could do steroid
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shots but with how young you are I don't want
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to do that because that can cause like a ton
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of problems later on down the road she was like
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really taping up your knees which I do almost
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every day already She said physical therapy and
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then just strengthening the muscles around the
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joints to protect them, much like Cassie was
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discussing a few episodes ago. I don't know.
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We tend to record in batches, so I don't know
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exactly when that was. But yeah, so she referred
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me to a physical therapist that is going to literally
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take care of me from head to toe. Another thing
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that she noted is my posture is terrible, which
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it always has been, I guess. muscles along my
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spinal cord and in my glutes are they're not
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firing when they're supposed to be so I have
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like all these different muscles that are like
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trying to compensate and causing a lot of pain
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how did she test that or like how did she like
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did she just look at your posture and was like
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I can tell you're not using these muscles or
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did she have you like try to do something she
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had me try to do something so first she like
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you know saw me stand and kind of like poked
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and prodded and watched me walk and then she
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had me lay down and had me like lift my legs
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in certain ways and she was like holding certain
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parts of my back as i did that so i think that
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she was you know feeling like the tensing of
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those muscles yeah so i did ask her at the end
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i was like so would there be anything like underlying
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that could cause like the laxity of my joints
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and she's like nope that's just how you were
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made and so I was like okay okay but how are
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you made like so um I did chicken out about asking
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about Ehlers -Danlos because she was so confident
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like nope nothing and I'm like okay I mean like
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having extra collagen for and being hyper like
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literally is one of the things that causes hypermobility
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like There's something causing it, whether or
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not she thinks it's a disease. Separate issue.
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There's literally a mechanism occurring. I feel
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like we're on the right track. But you've gotten
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some more answers than you've gotten before,
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especially about the knee. I remember in college,
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and I know that this had been a problem even
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before then, but I remember in college you would
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complain about it. And you'd seen people... like
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during that era too and they just kept being
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like no nothing's wrong like stop hiking that's
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what they would tell me and yeah it's so it's
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frustrating like it's frustrating because i mean
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really what it comes down to right now is you
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know like oh you just gotta strengthen your muscles
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i'm like i'm in so much pain 24 7 like even thinking
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about doing any any exercise like yeah it's just
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it's inconceivable a lot of the obstacle in front
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of that step yeah so another thing is i told
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her that i i still diligently do yoga even though
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it's becoming more difficult she goes well i
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love yoga but actually for someone like you it's
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not always the best thing because you're going
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to be pushing your joints farther than they're
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supposed to be going and i'm like this is the
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question that i had when you said that There
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are ways to do yoga that are fine for hypermobile
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joints. The way that yoga is typically done and
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marketed and sold to people is all about the
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stretching and deepening stretches and going
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to your limits and stuff, which is exactly the
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opposite of what you and I should be doing. Yeah,
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she told me if I'm going to do yoga to hold back
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farther than I can actually go, which I hate.
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Like I don't want to like I'm going to because
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that's what I should be doing. But I'm like,
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I love being like the really flexible person.
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Yeah, I feel you. I'm like, I like being able
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to like touch my toes and wrap my arms around
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the back of my legs. Yeah. Because the way that
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I view it is the way to make yoga work is you
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have to you have to view the yoga as a strengthening
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thing and not a flexibility thing. So you're
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there trying to. Hold yourself up in a pose,
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not sink into the limit of the pose. Yeah. And
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I mean, and I usually do that in like the vinyasa
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yoga classes, but the yin yoga classes are all
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about those deep stretches and like literally
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there's no. Yeah. Yeah. So anyways. And as you're
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saying this, I mentioned this in our chat earlier
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too, but when I was seeing my PT and asking him
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about hypermobility for the first time, the upper
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body guy. who's also hypermobile, so he kind
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of knows what he's talking about. He was just
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pulling on my wrist. He was like, your wrist
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is really stretchy. I can't tell. I can't feel
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what you're doing, but he's just like, yeah,
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I can feel your wrist joint just pulling apart
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and coming back together. Gross. Besides that,
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though, she ordered a few more blood tests, which
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I think three of the four have come back and
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they've all been negative. She did tell me she
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was like, I don't think they'll come back positive,
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but just to rule a few things out. I also went
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ahead and got x -rays of my neck slash back.
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So I guess, you know, my spine, my shoulders
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and my hips. Those all came back normal, which
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we suspected they would. And at this time, she
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doesn't have plans of ordering MRIs of anything.
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But she also talked about in the future potentially
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doing a type of injection. Of course, I can't
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remember off the top of my head. She did say
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that it is very difficult to get it approved
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through insurance, unfortunately. So possibly
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doing MRIs in the future would like strengthen
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our case, especially if I have PT under my belt
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and I'm still needing something extra. We'll
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see. But the only other comment that I had about
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that is actually very relevant to a point later
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in the chapter. So when we get to it, I will
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be able to give my little two cents about it.
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Did she explain at all the difference between
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laxity and hypermobility or was she kind of just
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saying it's if it's not all your joints, then
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it's laxity? That's what she said. Yeah. So basically,
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she said that I wouldn't have hypermobility unless
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I have laxity in all of my joints. Which again,
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I don't know if I agree with that, but. Okay,
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so laxity is like the term for the looseness
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in the joint. Having that overall as a condition
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is called hypermobility. That's how I understood
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it, yes. So that's my story. Yeah, I feel like
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we're moving in the right direction, but still
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a long road ahead, so. Cassie, do you have anything?
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Nothing specific. My feet hurt. Sometimes my
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hands hurt. Things are kind of at a stasis point.
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I will share really quick and mine's going to
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be very, very, very super quick. Our audience
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doesn't know this, but in October. Yes. Yes.
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October of last year. End of October. Yeah, end
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of October, because October 31st, Halloween,
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was my surgery. I broke three bones in my foot.
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And as was mentioned, had surgery on Halloween.
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So spooky. Had a plate and four screws along
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with an alignment rod, a temporary alignment
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rod placed. I got news on Monday that I have
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been relieved of all activity restrictions. I
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no longer have to go back to my ortho doctor.
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I am in the clear. And I found out that if I
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ever wanted to, I could technically have my plate
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and screws removed. That sounds like work. I'm
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not gonna, because I like to have metal in my
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body. You want to not have to go through the
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metal detectors in TSA. It's titanium, so it
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doesn't detect. So it's fine. Okay, well that's
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not quite as exciting. So you're telling me I
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can make a bomb out of titanium. I did not say
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that, but if you want it, you know where to stop
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it. I don't know anything about that. Please
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don't put me on a list. For legal purposes, this
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is entertainment value only. This is my just
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kidding star. Yeah. So I asked about that, whether
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I needed to have special paperwork to go through
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the airport. And he was like, no, basically everything
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that we put in the human body for the last like
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15 years has been x -ray body scan safe and you
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will not have any issues. and push comes to shove
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if i just carry my x -ray with me they'll look
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at it and be like ah i understand just i have
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it folded up in my pocket right i'm just gonna
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fold up a copy and stick it with my passport
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and that's where it will live for the rest of
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my life love it uh so what i'm hearing is you
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went for frankenstein as halloween i didn't go
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as frankenstein's monster Cassie, yes. Obviously
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Frankenstein's monster. He was actively on the
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lab bench being constricted. I keep talking about
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being, what's the word that I kept using, Cassie?
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Something science experiment. Something science
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experiment. Jules Verne. Jules Verne's science
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experiment. Because I had that fucking rod sticking
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out of my foot. Like, So, yeah, one of my fractures
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was very close to the head of the bone, and the
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only way that they could keep it in place and
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stabilize it while the repair occurred was to
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literally skewer a rod down the length of the
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bone. Trigger warning. Yeah, trigger warning
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to everybody. There's your first content warning.
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Yeah, I'll put it in the beginning. And so, like,
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I literally just had this, like, metal rod sticking
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out of my foot with a ball on the end of it.
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That had to get taken out six to eight weeks
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later. Yeah, you all look like that. Now imagine
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it being your actual foot. Yeah, this is why
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I'm not a doctor. That was a Jules Verne science
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experiment. My mom, when I was in high school,
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she broke several of her toes and dislocated
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her big toe. It was like at a 90 degree angle
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to the rest of her foot. And so they had to do
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a surgery with a rod in it to put it all back.
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Back to rights. See, and like back then they
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probably had what's called an external fixation
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device, which means that they had like metal
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rods coming out of the bones. And then there
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was like something on the outside that kept it
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all in place. I couldn't tell you. I don't remember.
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It was middle school, actually, not high school,
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because I remember I took the X -ray into my
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seventh grade science teacher. It was it was
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a minute ago. Yeah, no. Anyways. I have all sorts
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of pictures and videos and x -rays, and it is
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not for the squeamish. If you are squeamish,
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you will not want to look at these pictures ever.
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I can deal with bones. I like how they look.
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I'm okay with x -rays, but if I have to see flesh,
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I'm out. I'm not a flesh or blood. Type of person.
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Just wait, Cassie. In just over a month, you're
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going to be able to see my scar. I'm okay with
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scars. The flesh is closed at that point. Yes.
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I'm so hoping that I can make it. I would like
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to see the scar as well. The scars. I should
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say multiple scars because I got one on the top
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of my foot and then one on the bottom of my foot
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where the rod came out. I'm not going to stop
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saying it because if I had to suffer it, you
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all have to too. On that note. I think that's
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enough of our bodies. We can move on to Violet's
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body now. So, right back over to you, John, our
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resident scribe, to break down the epigraph of
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chapter 17. Of course, we have another fun little
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entry to Major Offender's Guide to the Writer's
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Quadrant, unauthorized edition, which means the
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scribes didn't get their hands on it, little
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bastards. It is therefore only natural that the
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more powerful the dragon, the more powerful the
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signet its rider manifests. One should beware
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of a strong rider who bonds a smaller dragon,
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but even warier of an unbonded cadet who will
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stop at nothing to seize a chance to bond. Very
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relevant for this chapter. Yep. Pretty straightforward
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too. I feel like there's not a lot of... breaking
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down to be done. Except for it totally calls
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out that everyone's staring at Violet wondering
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what signet she's gonna power because she got
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the motherfucker super generator of the continent
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on her side. And how strong it's gonna be. She
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should be out here powering their energy supply.
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Where are those lightning rods? Do they even
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know how to harness electricity? Probably not,
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but They should get on that and then utilize
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her. She can target those lightnings now exactly
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to hit whatever their electricity machine is.
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Hopefully it won't fry the system in between
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working and being charged. This epigraph, though,
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also indirectly calls out first Jack, sorry,
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motherfucking Jack Barlow, and second or... I
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almost said Oregon. Second Oren. Who is unbonded
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and got his eyes on some things. Yep. Yep. While
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MFJB has a little orange. Little orange. Orange,
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really. Hey, it's not the size that matters.
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It's how you use it. It's all about the motion
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of the ocean. Okay. Cassie, you are up. I know
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we have a couple new dragon names in this chapter.
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So if you would, please. It's actually not so
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many. It's just a couple. First, I want to start
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with a pronunciation correction. It's a small
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one. When we learned Tarn's name, his full name,
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and one of the words in there, I pronounced as
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Murtkuchum. And I forgot the R's and T's make
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fun sounds when they're together. So when there's
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an R before a T, you actually have to sneak in
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a little shh sound. So it's not more, it's not
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more, it's more shh. If there's an R and a T,
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then there automatically has to be an S in there
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as well. It's just how the vendors work. Naturally.
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And I was just thinking about this the other
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day, because if you're talking about having something
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on, so like. When Cara and I practice Scottish
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Gaelic together, a lot of times we're talking
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about what perfume we wore today. And one of
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the ways that you use that is the word orm, which
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has that little extra vowel. But if you're asking
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about what someone else has on them, you use
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a T. So it's actually orsht. So it's like, ha
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perfum orsht. You have perfume on. Or actually,
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you have perfume at you, is how that literally
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translates. And then right after I had that thought,
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like a day later, I found this Reddit thread
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by Azure Empyrean that it's similar to our thread
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by Isolated Color YT, where it's got a long list
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of the words that show up in this book. But instead
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of translations, it gives you pronunciations.
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And I found Mursht Kuchum on there. And I was
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like, oh, yeah, there should be an S -H in there.
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My bad. So that's the correction and a new resource
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for y 'all. Now on to our new names. The first
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new dragon name is Smach. Smach. Oh, I dig that
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one, actually. It's got that kind of little H
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in there, but it's also followed by the CH sound.
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So it's a little bit hard for me to say. But
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you don't really have to worry about the D. You
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just kind of put a K at the end and call it good.
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Smach. And that one means control or discipline.
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Ooh. Oh, I dig that one for Kaori. Yes. Because,
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yeah. I mean, yeah, I guess I don't really have
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to explain why I like that. It's pretty straightforward.
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I'm pleasantly surprised by that one. I can promise
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you the audiobook had nothing like that as the
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pronunciation. Oh, please tell me. I think it
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was smatched. I can't remember. I think they
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even dropped the ch and they were just like smod.
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Because I want to call out, we read his name
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once, and then he becomes Colonel Kaori's dragon
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for the rest of the series. They don't repeat
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it much, do they? Well, I love how we get this
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other dragon, and they don't even really have
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a rider for long. And so then we never hear about
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them again. So the next one is... Does it bond
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someone else? Yes. That's what I thought. Okay.
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So I was confused when Cassie was like, look,
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I don't remember this dragon. I don't even remember
00:24:00.200 --> 00:24:02.559
how the rebonding process works. I have a question
00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:04.599
about that in the chapter when we get there.
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But here's how you say his name. Clown. Clown?
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No. So like clown, but with a G. Yes. No. I disagree.
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That is, anytime you see A -N -N, you're going
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to get that ow -n. And the E kind of doesn't
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contribute a lot here. For you, for the rest
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of us, it's going to be Glean. Everyone else,
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including the audiobooks, all of them, is very
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consistent on this one. I think I pronounced
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it in my head, Glean, actually. Because there's
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two N's. Glen, Glean. There are lots of ways
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you could try to pronounce this. Maybe Glean
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got snuck in a few times, too. Yeah, yeah. I
00:24:49.200 --> 00:24:50.740
don't even know how I pronounced it originally.
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It was probably like... glen or something which
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coincidentally it means glen or valley oh okay
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and that's all that i found so hopefully i didn't
00:25:01.930 --> 00:25:04.950
miss one when i was deep diving into the actual
00:25:04.950 --> 00:25:08.970
yeah that's all i saw too um john though i am
00:25:08.970 --> 00:25:12.170
dying to know because i cannot remember who does
00:25:12.170 --> 00:25:18.829
glown rebound Um, it's not Oren Seifert, but
00:25:18.829 --> 00:25:22.410
it's one of the unbondeds that Jack Barlow is
00:25:22.410 --> 00:25:25.450
friends with. Because later, it's like in a chapter,
00:25:25.589 --> 00:25:28.650
yeah, in a chapter or two, Jack Barlow and his
00:25:28.650 --> 00:25:30.990
cronies are going to be observed celebrating
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because whoever it was managed to create a bond
00:25:35.029 --> 00:25:40.309
with Glean after this occurs. Okay. That's right.
00:25:40.450 --> 00:25:45.079
Thank you. Yeah. Yeah, I was just like, ah, we
00:25:45.079 --> 00:25:47.519
got a name. And now his writer is dead. That's
00:25:47.519 --> 00:25:53.759
fun. And goodbye. All right. Cassie, are you
00:25:53.759 --> 00:25:56.859
ready to take us on a wild journey through Chapter
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17? Oh, boy, am I. Now, I did try to, like, there's
00:26:03.640 --> 00:26:06.140
so much in this chapter. So I tried to skim over
00:26:06.140 --> 00:26:09.519
a few things that felt less relevant. Sure. But
00:26:09.519 --> 00:26:12.029
we can always. If there's a quote or something
00:26:12.029 --> 00:26:14.529
that you really like, as always, we can come
00:26:14.529 --> 00:26:16.990
back to that. Oh, we'll always be jumping in,
00:26:17.109 --> 00:26:24.109
L .S. But I did my best. I did my best to pull
00:26:24.109 --> 00:26:27.170
out the important stuff. Condense it out a little
00:26:27.170 --> 00:26:30.529
bit. It is, you know, 9, 10, and we planned on
00:26:30.529 --> 00:26:35.170
starting. Sorry. Don't call us out on air, John.
00:26:36.970 --> 00:26:44.259
No comment. No comment. Okay, so we're on chapter
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17. They are freshly riders. And freshly ridden,
00:26:49.160 --> 00:26:54.200
some of them. They get rooms! Violet's had that
00:26:54.200 --> 00:26:56.960
unexpected kiss that it turns out she didn't
00:26:56.960 --> 00:27:02.140
like so much. So, here we are. She is waking
00:27:02.140 --> 00:27:08.559
up on a new day. I'm waking up. Sorry. I feel
00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:16.440
it in my bones. Can I tell you something really
00:27:16.440 --> 00:27:19.400
fast? I'm sorry. That song always makes me think
00:27:19.400 --> 00:27:22.980
of it. So we all know Radioactive by Imagine
00:27:22.980 --> 00:27:26.119
Dragons. There's the one spot where it's breathing
00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:34.099
in the chemicals. So one time it was on the radio
00:27:34.099 --> 00:27:37.460
and my dad was driving. And I was singing the
00:27:37.460 --> 00:27:40.660
song and I very dramatically did the gasp and
00:27:40.660 --> 00:27:44.339
he freaked out and almost crashed the car. He
00:27:44.339 --> 00:27:47.619
thought that something was happening. And I was
00:27:47.619 --> 00:27:56.039
like panicking. I felt so bad. I think he yelled
00:27:56.039 --> 00:28:01.059
at me because I scared him. Sorry. This is so
00:28:01.059 --> 00:28:09.630
off topic. Okay. back to our first sentence on
00:28:09.630 --> 00:28:11.730
brand though my first comment is about this first
00:28:11.730 --> 00:28:15.069
sentence so violet has woken up and she's relishing
00:28:15.069 --> 00:28:17.710
having her own room and i was like i can hard
00:28:17.710 --> 00:28:21.549
relate girl after we moved because i used to
00:28:21.549 --> 00:28:23.049
have to share a room with cara when we were really
00:28:23.049 --> 00:28:27.369
little and we moved and i finally had my own
00:28:27.369 --> 00:28:29.450
room and i didn't have to share with her anymore
00:28:29.450 --> 00:28:34.359
and i was just like this is amazing this is the
00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:36.779
best thing in the world. I've got my own space.
00:28:37.059 --> 00:28:39.720
I don't have to share the bed with a blanket
00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:45.079
hog. I can, like, have privacy. When I'm mad
00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:47.559
at my siblings, I don't have to go cry in the
00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:52.400
bathroom. She wasn't as thrilled to be alone,
00:28:52.619 --> 00:28:55.720
but I thought it was great, so I really understand
00:28:55.720 --> 00:29:00.400
where Violet's coming from right now. And her
00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:04.180
best friend Ree's right across the hallway. Love
00:29:04.180 --> 00:29:06.339
that for them. I wonder if they got to, like,
00:29:06.339 --> 00:29:08.900
choose. Yeah, because that's very convenient
00:29:08.900 --> 00:29:11.599
otherwise. And, like, it doesn't make a lot of
00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:15.039
sense not to do it that way. Just, like, go find
00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:18.019
a hallway. Here's your general region. They've
00:29:18.019 --> 00:29:19.539
got a really small class this year, so maybe
00:29:19.539 --> 00:29:21.119
they've got, like, enough rooms that they're
00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:24.059
just like, eh, call dibs, I guess. Or just, like,
00:29:24.119 --> 00:29:27.420
assign a hallway to a squad and be like, okay,
00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:30.079
second squad, first wing. This is your hallway,
00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:33.369
pick rooms. Yeah, that sounds more efficient.
00:29:34.190 --> 00:29:37.950
So anyway, Rhi is across the hall, and when Violet
00:29:37.950 --> 00:29:40.789
goes out there, it's Sawyer who comes out of
00:29:40.789 --> 00:29:46.329
Rhi's room this time. I love that Rhi is living
00:29:46.329 --> 00:29:49.390
my life here. And he is so embarrassed to be
00:29:49.390 --> 00:29:55.049
caught. She is really taking advantage of the
00:29:55.049 --> 00:29:59.049
first year life. Yep. She is. I mean, not that
00:29:59.049 --> 00:30:03.009
she... wasn't finding her own way before that
00:30:03.009 --> 00:30:07.930
but um i just it's so cute because he like blushes
00:30:07.930 --> 00:30:13.470
and i'm like oh i don't know i'm like how does
00:30:13.470 --> 00:30:16.309
this not get so awkward like within your squad
00:30:16.309 --> 00:30:18.609
you know what i mean like yeah it doesn't and
00:30:18.609 --> 00:30:21.230
they're fine she becomes squad leader and they
00:30:21.230 --> 00:30:24.339
have to take orders from her And I want to point
00:30:24.339 --> 00:30:27.740
out, Sawyer is not the only squad mate that comes
00:30:27.740 --> 00:30:30.440
walking out of that fucking bedroom. We have
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:32.559
to wait until the next book to get the next one.
00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:36.680
But Liam is going to come trotting out of this
00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:39.740
bedroom one time. So, like, not only has she
00:30:39.740 --> 00:30:42.079
taken Sawyer to bed, she's taken Liam to bed,
00:30:42.140 --> 00:30:44.359
too. I don't remember her taking Liam to bed.
00:30:44.380 --> 00:30:46.480
I do. I got this. I don't remember most of these,
00:30:46.599 --> 00:30:50.680
so. But he's not in the next book. That's true.
00:30:50.740 --> 00:30:55.200
Riddick. Riddick. That is so funny, given this
00:30:55.200 --> 00:30:59.700
specific chapter, because she's just like, you'll
00:30:59.700 --> 00:31:03.160
never see this. I'm sorry. It's okay. Yeah, no,
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:06.359
sorry. It was Riddick. It was Riddick. And that's
00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:09.500
the one where I'm just like, what did it take
00:31:09.500 --> 00:31:14.079
for Rhiannon to take Riddick to bed? Honestly,
00:31:14.279 --> 00:31:17.059
I bet he'd be a fun lay. Oh, I do too. I would
00:31:17.059 --> 00:31:20.400
absolutely get down with that. I'm just not sure
00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:24.039
Rhiannon would. Yeah, I don't know. We can pontificate
00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:27.940
on that once we get there. Clyde, come on. Sorry,
00:31:28.019 --> 00:31:30.200
my little baby was pounded on the door this time.
00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:34.480
Is he scared of atoms too? No. With how scared
00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:37.819
she is. Oh yeah, I forgot that was before we
00:31:37.819 --> 00:31:40.160
officially started the episode. My four -year
00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:43.220
-old son is very smart and loves to listen to
00:31:43.220 --> 00:31:47.900
science podcasts. And in one of them about lightning,
00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:52.220
it... had a personified some atoms and they were
00:31:52.220 --> 00:31:54.900
talking to explain how atoms work. And now he
00:31:54.900 --> 00:31:59.720
is scared of atoms. So whenever he's alone, he
00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:02.960
will say, but I'm scared of atoms. Yeah. You
00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:04.400
never know when they're going to start talking
00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:11.859
to you. Yeah. Clyde is very skittish about big
00:32:11.859 --> 00:32:14.200
things or noises or sudden moves. So he probably
00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:15.880
wouldn't be scared of the atom, but he might
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:18.309
try to eat it. I don't know if you guys ever
00:32:18.309 --> 00:32:20.609
heard this story, but we've got these watermelon
00:32:20.609 --> 00:32:22.230
sheets and they're actually on the bed right
00:32:22.230 --> 00:32:24.750
now. And the first few times we put them on the
00:32:24.750 --> 00:32:27.730
bed, Clyde thought the little watermelon seeds
00:32:27.730 --> 00:32:31.509
were bugs. And he tried to eat them and attack
00:32:31.509 --> 00:32:33.869
them. He couldn't figure out why they weren't
00:32:33.869 --> 00:32:37.869
moving and why he couldn't eat them. Why are
00:32:37.869 --> 00:32:41.569
all these dead bugs on your bed? They're decorating
00:32:41.569 --> 00:32:46.450
it. So Violet's in the hallway. waiting for reed
00:32:46.450 --> 00:32:48.529
to come out she's testing her ankle as she does
00:32:48.529 --> 00:32:51.470
so which i have also been doing a lot lately
00:32:51.470 --> 00:32:54.630
but i haven't sprained or broken mine it's just
00:32:54.630 --> 00:33:00.490
and here's my note so i'm not broken any bones
00:33:00.490 --> 00:33:03.750
actually ever, but I have sprained my right ankle
00:33:03.750 --> 00:33:06.369
several times and twisted it several times before
00:33:06.369 --> 00:33:09.029
that. And during my physiatry appointment, when
00:33:09.029 --> 00:33:11.269
she was testing my joints, she was like, wow,
00:33:11.390 --> 00:33:15.170
this ankle. I'm like, I know it moves way too
00:33:15.170 --> 00:33:22.049
much. So I just wrote same girl in my notes here
00:33:22.049 --> 00:33:25.990
because I, yes, my, my ankle often be hurting
00:33:25.990 --> 00:33:32.079
and often be sprained. Yeah. And she says that
00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:34.339
normally she would use crutches, but she's settling
00:33:34.339 --> 00:33:37.619
for the less noticeable boot. A boot made for
00:33:37.619 --> 00:33:41.420
walking. Anybody? I know all boots are made for
00:33:41.420 --> 00:33:44.660
walking. I get it. But these boots are made for
00:33:44.660 --> 00:33:49.380
walking. I wrote down, I underlined crutches
00:33:49.380 --> 00:33:52.759
and I wrote, okay, this time I understand, Violet.
00:33:52.819 --> 00:33:54.859
This is like the one time that I understand her
00:33:54.859 --> 00:33:58.880
being like, I'm not going to use something. or
00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:01.420
have an accommodation to help me heal because
00:34:01.420 --> 00:34:03.359
it'll put a target on my back. The crutches would
00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:05.680
put her at a significant disadvantage because
00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:09.820
her arms would always be occupied. So I'm like,
00:34:09.900 --> 00:34:13.650
okay. this one i get and it's like right after
00:34:13.650 --> 00:34:16.030
she became target number one according to zayden
00:34:16.030 --> 00:34:19.230
so like yes absolutely yeah according see according
00:34:19.230 --> 00:34:22.750
to zayden because zayden i brought this in all
00:34:22.750 --> 00:34:25.170
caps told her that she's got a big enough target
00:34:25.170 --> 00:34:26.949
she didn't just like think of this on her own
00:34:26.949 --> 00:34:31.289
but we're listening to zayden now that and then
00:34:31.289 --> 00:34:34.929
i just had the fun realization I wonder how many
00:34:34.929 --> 00:34:37.789
first -year intentions got read by Zayden the
00:34:37.789 --> 00:34:39.489
night before while they were on the battlefield.
00:34:39.750 --> 00:34:42.530
He had to have been scanning all their brains
00:34:42.530 --> 00:34:44.650
and like, fuck, fuck, they're all thinking about
00:34:44.650 --> 00:34:48.949
her shit. To vet them. Yeah. No, he came to that
00:34:48.949 --> 00:34:51.409
conversation with... the receipts. Not that he
00:34:51.409 --> 00:34:54.210
shared them, but he came being like, you are
00:34:54.210 --> 00:34:57.530
the number one target. I know this. I'm not guessing.
00:34:58.250 --> 00:35:02.769
And if you do a statistical breakdown of how
00:35:02.769 --> 00:35:08.210
many... Using a precise logit model. Here's the
00:35:08.210 --> 00:35:15.150
intensity of the intention for each category.
00:35:16.190 --> 00:35:20.159
So... Rhiannon finally emerges, and she's so
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:22.280
excited that Violet is there to greet her instead
00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:25.559
of off on breakfast duty, because that is a task
00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:29.219
for super seniors now. Or is it super freshmen?
00:35:30.420 --> 00:35:34.000
Okay, side note on this for a minute here. Super
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:36.360
cadets. Do you think that they get to go to the
00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:38.960
same classes as the rest of the writers? Because,
00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:41.820
like, think about this. Yes. Once a year you
00:35:41.820 --> 00:35:44.199
enter the quadrant, and they've been there for
00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:47.269
two months already. So they have... 10 months
00:35:47.269 --> 00:35:51.809
between now and round two. They've got to still
00:35:51.809 --> 00:35:54.409
be taking classes. They probably go to the same
00:35:54.409 --> 00:35:55.909
info classes, but they don't get to go to the
00:35:55.909 --> 00:35:57.650
flight class or any of the classes that are...
00:35:57.650 --> 00:36:00.010
Probably the only ones they don't get to do are
00:36:00.010 --> 00:36:02.469
the ones that are actively involved in learning
00:36:02.469 --> 00:36:05.170
your magic and writing. And so I've got this
00:36:05.170 --> 00:36:08.530
personal head candidate of mine that basically
00:36:08.530 --> 00:36:12.150
the deal is, hey, we're going to let you live
00:36:12.150 --> 00:36:14.050
for 10 more months, but you have to do all the
00:36:14.050 --> 00:36:17.860
chores now. Yeah, basically. I think that too.
00:36:18.139 --> 00:36:21.380
But yeah, I imagine it as they're basically like...
00:36:21.380 --> 00:36:23.599
They're like the interns. Yeah. Or what is it?
00:36:23.820 --> 00:36:25.920
This would be a funnier joke if I could remember
00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:28.880
the word. What's it called when you're taking
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:30.760
a class but you're not paying and you're not
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:33.159
taking credit? When you're auditing. They're
00:36:33.159 --> 00:36:36.000
essentially auditing classes right now. Can you
00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:41.050
audit Flightfield? No, not that one. No. I mean,
00:36:41.050 --> 00:36:43.409
from the ground, maybe. You can't see anything
00:36:43.409 --> 00:36:46.150
that's happening or practice, but maybe you can
00:36:46.150 --> 00:36:48.110
stand there and watch as they all fly away from
00:36:48.110 --> 00:36:51.849
you. That has to be the saddest group of people
00:36:51.849 --> 00:36:54.929
ever. Wait, but they bring the orange slices
00:36:54.929 --> 00:37:02.789
and juice boxes after. Okay, guys, okay. Okay,
00:37:02.849 --> 00:37:04.750
so the freshly bonded get to learn how to fly
00:37:04.750 --> 00:37:06.929
instead of doing all of these other chores, which
00:37:06.929 --> 00:37:10.070
Violet really needs. But she also really needs
00:37:10.070 --> 00:37:12.349
a new strategy for sparring, which I was like,
00:37:12.369 --> 00:37:14.489
one -on -one lessons with the master, maybe?
00:37:14.789 --> 00:37:17.690
But no, not yet, not yet. And again, we get another
00:37:17.690 --> 00:37:21.250
Zayden's right. Listening to Zayden. It's fine
00:37:21.250 --> 00:37:25.590
because, in all caps, Zayden's right. And Zayden
00:37:25.590 --> 00:37:28.449
says that she can't take every enemy down with
00:37:28.449 --> 00:37:30.829
poison. At least not on the battlefield. Yeah,
00:37:30.829 --> 00:37:33.250
fair. Which is hilarious. In negotiations, yes.
00:37:35.429 --> 00:37:37.869
There are other times where it's very useful.
00:37:38.909 --> 00:37:43.480
Visiting diplomats, for example. So Sawyer, Rhiannon,
00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:45.679
and Violet, they're walking in the hallway now.
00:37:46.300 --> 00:37:48.599
I guess Sawyer's probably already gone. But Rhiannon
00:37:48.599 --> 00:37:51.400
and Sawyer, they were celebrating. And so Rhiannon's
00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:57.369
like, what about you? Were you celebrating? Oh,
00:37:57.369 --> 00:38:00.750
Ri, says Vi, I have not had anyone catch mine
00:38:00.750 --> 00:38:05.409
eye. But Vi, says Rai, many I saw you not a day
00:38:05.409 --> 00:38:09.170
ago, mouth to mouth. Says Vi, those eyes do not
00:38:09.170 --> 00:38:12.190
lie, but while I felt his mouth, my heart felt.
00:38:12.829 --> 00:38:17.650
Nothing. Whoa! Okay, snaps, girls, snaps. I loved
00:38:17.650 --> 00:38:21.590
that. Thank you so much for gifting us that reenactment.
00:38:21.590 --> 00:38:23.989
And this interpretation from Edgar Allen Poe.
00:38:23.989 --> 00:38:26.409
You're welcome. Here's Rhiannon's response. Oh,
00:38:26.409 --> 00:38:32.630
phooey! I was a lot less sophisticated. I just
00:38:32.630 --> 00:38:35.780
wrote where she says... I haven't found anyone
00:38:35.780 --> 00:38:38.179
I want to celebrate with. I just wrote liar,
00:38:38.420 --> 00:38:43.539
liar. Yes. She's definitely found somebody. It's
00:38:43.539 --> 00:38:46.320
just not like that she wants to celebrate with.
00:38:48.420 --> 00:38:51.059
Yeah. I've been, I've been slowly working my
00:38:51.059 --> 00:38:55.079
way through Emma as one of my like books I've
00:38:55.079 --> 00:38:57.139
been meaning to read for a really, really, really,
00:38:57.159 --> 00:39:01.989
really long time. And so I was reading that right
00:39:01.989 --> 00:39:04.130
before I was taking these notes the other day.
00:39:04.349 --> 00:39:10.789
And the voice, the style of the prose just kind
00:39:10.789 --> 00:39:13.230
of got in my head. And when some of the words
00:39:13.230 --> 00:39:15.349
I was using started rhyming, I was just like,
00:39:15.409 --> 00:39:18.530
I have to go. I sat there agog the whole time.
00:39:18.550 --> 00:39:21.329
I loved it. It was amazing. It just kept going
00:39:21.329 --> 00:39:26.400
and going. I know. I was thrilled. that is going
00:39:26.400 --> 00:39:29.019
to be clipped and it really helps that vi and
00:39:29.019 --> 00:39:37.300
rye rhyme and i yes and i yes and lie now you
00:39:37.300 --> 00:39:40.260
don't need me to catalog all the words you can
00:39:40.260 --> 00:39:42.420
do that on your own that's your homework dear
00:39:42.420 --> 00:39:47.699
listener So before they can discuss this further,
00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:50.840
there's more evidence of others celebrating emerges
00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:55.199
in the form of a Helen with Liam Myrie. He's
00:39:55.199 --> 00:39:59.099
always Liam Myrie first and last in this process.
00:39:59.480 --> 00:40:06.039
Going back just a tiny bit with Rhiannon's phooey
00:40:06.039 --> 00:40:12.900
reaction. She's talking about like, listen, you're
00:40:12.900 --> 00:40:15.670
not going. To get shit from me, like, I don't
00:40:15.670 --> 00:40:17.889
care. Anyways, there's no regulation. Like, it's
00:40:17.889 --> 00:40:19.489
frowned upon, but there's nothing in the rules.
00:40:19.730 --> 00:40:22.110
And I wrote, so why is Dane being a little bitch?
00:40:23.309 --> 00:40:26.989
This, it's not even in the rules, Dane. Because,
00:40:27.030 --> 00:40:30.809
so if you want the answer to it, I can give you
00:40:30.809 --> 00:40:34.050
the answer. And it doesn't take that long. Reputation?
00:40:34.489 --> 00:40:38.449
No. Conditional love. His father has only ever
00:40:38.449 --> 00:40:41.420
shown him. Conditional love, not unconditional
00:40:41.420 --> 00:40:46.000
love, which means unwritten rules that make you
00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:50.039
better than the persons who don't follow unwritten
00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:55.219
rules are prime target for appeasement. Yeah.
00:40:56.199 --> 00:40:58.639
Yeah, we got some worn behavior. We got some
00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:07.360
generational trauma. Being passed on. Yep. There
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:09.719
you go. He's still being a little bitch. Oh,
00:41:09.820 --> 00:41:12.719
yes. Yeah, like, it's still not great. It's still
00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:15.280
not the way to go about things, if you care about
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:19.239
this, but whatever. Here to distract. Actually,
00:41:19.300 --> 00:41:20.820
do you want to go back to Liam and his Helen,
00:41:20.900 --> 00:41:25.579
or are we good there? I just wrote, do we find
00:41:25.579 --> 00:41:29.760
out who? And I wrote, no. Yeah, we don't. It's
00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:32.400
just another first year. We know that they bonded
00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:35.179
a brown club tail. Yes. And I actually looked
00:41:35.179 --> 00:41:37.099
this up. Oh, wait. I do have a note about this.
00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:40.420
So I looked this up and I'm like, okay, do we
00:41:40.420 --> 00:41:45.199
know who this is? And the only people that we
00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:50.659
know of who have bonded a brown club tail. Sorry,
00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:56.719
I'm talking slowly to get back to the note. Have
00:41:56.719 --> 00:41:59.699
you started a dragon registry for all these obscure
00:41:59.699 --> 00:42:02.880
names no one's keeping track of? Um, I haven't,
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:07.019
but the internet has. Okay. So, um, okay, it's
00:42:07.019 --> 00:42:09.579
not loading. That's really excellent. Thanks.
00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:13.219
Thanks, phone. Oh, wait, here it comes. Okay,
00:42:13.340 --> 00:42:15.820
so you just have to talk smack to it. Just like
00:42:15.820 --> 00:42:18.079
wigs, if you call it a dirty little bitch, it
00:42:18.079 --> 00:42:22.820
responds. Okay, AI overview is bullshit. Oh,
00:42:22.820 --> 00:42:26.760
no. Okay. I just do minus AI now. Actually, I
00:42:26.760 --> 00:42:28.420
switched my phone browser to something else,
00:42:28.500 --> 00:42:31.400
but. It completely changed the answer. Okay.
00:42:31.820 --> 00:42:37.000
Okay. So Brown Club Tales, we got Emery Barnes,
00:42:37.219 --> 00:42:42.300
who is a third year. Salil. Salay. Salay. Whatever.
00:42:42.500 --> 00:42:46.170
Listen. Okay. Look, it's French and I have French
00:42:46.170 --> 00:42:48.530
heritage. So I have to be picky about those things.
00:42:49.309 --> 00:42:52.469
Soleil, whatever. And then it says unnamed female
00:42:52.469 --> 00:42:56.309
writer who is seen with Liam. But we don't know
00:42:56.309 --> 00:42:59.849
if they're a female, first of all. What year
00:42:59.849 --> 00:43:05.329
is Soleil? Third year as well. Okay. So the first
00:43:05.329 --> 00:43:07.170
year is just an unnamed first year. And that's
00:43:07.170 --> 00:43:08.829
right. We don't know it's a female. Yep. And
00:43:08.829 --> 00:43:12.409
we never. But we never learn any more brown club
00:43:12.409 --> 00:43:16.670
tales. Well, we know where Violet's priorities
00:43:16.670 --> 00:43:19.929
are. Yes. The AI overview was very silly when
00:43:19.929 --> 00:43:24.090
I looked it up because I do not remember to do
00:43:24.090 --> 00:43:26.210
this minus AI thing. It's such an extra step.
00:43:26.409 --> 00:43:28.869
It's so easy to forget. You shouldn't have to.
00:43:29.110 --> 00:43:31.429
I'm just going to rate this to you because it's
00:43:31.429 --> 00:43:34.110
very silly. It is important to note that the
00:43:34.110 --> 00:43:36.269
term writer in this context refers to individuals
00:43:36.269 --> 00:43:38.409
in the fictional world of the Empyrean series
00:43:38.409 --> 00:43:41.329
who are bonded to dragons. The term brown clubtail
00:43:41.329 --> 00:43:43.550
refers to a type of dragonfly in the real world.
00:43:43.650 --> 00:43:46.150
The fictional brown clubtail dragons in the Empyrean
00:43:46.150 --> 00:43:48.550
series are not the same as the real world brown
00:43:48.550 --> 00:43:53.070
clubtail dragonflies. Oh my god. What a distinction.
00:43:53.650 --> 00:43:55.469
First of all, the real world brown clubtail dragonflies.
00:43:56.369 --> 00:43:58.150
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So
00:43:58.150 --> 00:44:00.159
just so you know. First of all, this is. This
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:02.760
is not a Lemony Snicket book, and rider is not
00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:07.539
a term that he would have explained to us. So,
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:10.980
in case anyone was confused, these are not dragonflies.
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:17.800
And real dragonflies do not breathe fire or have
00:44:17.800 --> 00:44:21.579
magic. Is there actually a thing as a brown club
00:44:21.579 --> 00:44:25.539
-tailed dragonfly? Honestly, there are... Let
00:44:25.539 --> 00:44:27.119
me actually look that up. There are so many kinds
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:30.050
of bugs. I would not be surprised if there were.
00:44:30.329 --> 00:44:33.030
But dragonflies do have some really cool mechanics
00:44:33.030 --> 00:44:35.690
about how they can hover and fly in all directions.
00:44:35.730 --> 00:44:37.650
And they're predatory even when they're in their
00:44:37.650 --> 00:44:40.409
larval stage. And I do get to see them at work
00:44:40.409 --> 00:44:42.409
sometimes. The larval ones when they're dead,
00:44:42.489 --> 00:44:45.929
obviously. Okay, so I'm not seeing anything about
00:44:45.929 --> 00:44:48.010
specifically a brown club -tailed dragonfly.
00:44:48.090 --> 00:44:50.409
But there are such things as club -tailed dragonflies.
00:44:50.570 --> 00:44:53.409
And presumably there can be a color brown of
00:44:53.409 --> 00:44:59.550
them. So they do exist. Okay. Here is one. Hmm.
00:45:00.070 --> 00:45:01.710
Yeah, it looks like a dragonfly to me. Yeah,
00:45:01.730 --> 00:45:03.809
but it's an itty bitty dragonfly. I have seen
00:45:03.809 --> 00:45:07.150
some that are like... There are some big ones.
00:45:07.769 --> 00:45:10.550
They're pretty. I've seen really big blue ones.
00:45:10.570 --> 00:45:14.750
Yeah, blue teals. Back in Seattle. Yeah. Well,
00:45:14.969 --> 00:45:18.309
anyway. It's only page two. Where are we at?
00:45:20.780 --> 00:45:26.940
Here to distract is Rydog. Yay. He puts an arm
00:45:26.940 --> 00:45:29.119
around each of their shoulders and gives one
00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:34.559
big hello, ladies. Or is it riders now? And they're
00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:36.519
like, yeah, we like riders. Go with that one.
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:40.360
And so they commence gossiping about each other's
00:45:40.360 --> 00:45:42.980
relics. Never one to pass up an opportunity to
00:45:42.980 --> 00:45:46.480
show off some shoulder and bicep. Rydock pushes
00:45:46.480 --> 00:45:49.380
up his sleeve to show off his, which is just
00:45:49.380 --> 00:45:51.340
a dragon silhouette. Like, it's not really exciting
00:45:51.340 --> 00:45:55.170
to describe, but it's... in a great place for
00:45:55.170 --> 00:45:58.429
his ripped off shirt it's very funny though because
00:45:58.429 --> 00:46:00.570
especially when we get riannon's little clip
00:46:00.570 --> 00:46:03.449
here in a moment i'm surprised that utram didn't
00:46:03.449 --> 00:46:06.210
put it somewhere funnier because their dynamic
00:46:06.210 --> 00:46:08.909
is totally that like the top of the thigh or
00:46:08.909 --> 00:46:12.469
something like no i'm talking like right have
00:46:12.469 --> 00:46:17.329
you guys seen pictures of guys who tattoo elephants
00:46:17.329 --> 00:46:21.630
like right above their dick oh no yep so they
00:46:21.630 --> 00:46:23.769
put the entire elephant face so it's a trunk
00:46:23.769 --> 00:46:26.829
yeah so I'm thinking of dragon with either the
00:46:26.829 --> 00:46:30.929
tail or like fire breathing like as his dick
00:46:30.929 --> 00:46:36.809
see but he can't show that off as easily he can't
00:46:36.809 --> 00:46:39.010
just walk around without pants on he can pull
00:46:39.010 --> 00:46:41.829
it down a little bit just like above the hip
00:46:41.829 --> 00:46:45.980
bones Or just whenever someone asks, start unbuttoning
00:46:45.980 --> 00:46:50.599
and make them uncomfortable. Tyler just poked
00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:54.280
his head over and looked at me like, what the
00:46:54.280 --> 00:47:05.480
fuck? Perfect moment. Can we just talk about
00:47:05.480 --> 00:47:10.320
elephant dick tattoos? Don't mind us. Violet
00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:12.860
must sadly keep hers to herself because it's
00:47:12.860 --> 00:47:14.579
on her back. Can't really take her whole shirt
00:47:14.579 --> 00:47:17.659
off to show everyone in the hallway. But Rhiannon
00:47:17.659 --> 00:47:20.619
doesn't even tell us where hers is, informing
00:47:20.619 --> 00:47:23.940
Rydock that he would never get to see it. Which
00:47:23.940 --> 00:47:26.659
is hilarious if what Jon says about Rhiannon
00:47:26.659 --> 00:47:30.340
and Rydock later is true. Because he's probably
00:47:30.340 --> 00:47:32.300
like, I'm looking it up. Yeah, I got to see it.
00:47:32.420 --> 00:47:34.679
I'm looking it up. That's been his whole game.
00:47:34.820 --> 00:47:36.739
He's like, I'm only going to sleep with her because
00:47:36.739 --> 00:47:41.539
I need to see where this relic tattoo is. Yeah,
00:47:41.579 --> 00:47:43.980
and so Rydock essentially mimes being stabbed
00:47:43.980 --> 00:47:47.059
in the heart, but Rhiannon is like, no, I don't
00:47:47.059 --> 00:47:50.440
think that really hurt you. You're fine. I said
00:47:50.440 --> 00:47:53.320
insert headcanon for John here that Rydock is
00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:54.920
gay and wouldn't have been interested in Rhi
00:47:54.920 --> 00:48:00.420
anyway. I'm pretty sure he's bi or he's pan.
00:48:00.619 --> 00:48:06.510
Yeah, Riddick is totally bi. Yeah. I just didn't
00:48:06.510 --> 00:48:08.210
want you to have to fight Rai for him. That's
00:48:08.210 --> 00:48:12.110
all. Give me a second. I'm looking it up. Okay.
00:48:12.150 --> 00:48:13.630
Okay, while you're looking that up, I have a
00:48:13.630 --> 00:48:16.989
question. Do we have any guesses or do we know
00:48:16.989 --> 00:48:20.329
later where Rhiannon's relic is located? Like,
00:48:20.329 --> 00:48:22.269
because it's in a place that she doesn't want
00:48:22.269 --> 00:48:24.289
to show, but it's also got to be a place that
00:48:24.289 --> 00:48:26.230
her dragon would have thought reasonable to put
00:48:26.230 --> 00:48:31.980
it. It is Riddick. Page 27, Iron Flame. Oh, right
00:48:31.980 --> 00:48:34.340
at the beginning. Let's go. Zayden opens the
00:48:34.340 --> 00:48:36.340
door and I walk into the hallway at the same
00:48:36.340 --> 00:48:39.059
moment Rhiannon, my closest friend in the quadrant,
00:48:39.219 --> 00:48:41.460
walks out of her room with Riddick, another of
00:48:41.460 --> 00:48:45.739
our squad mates. Oh, shit. Well, good for him
00:48:45.739 --> 00:48:51.210
proving her wrong. So... There is no... We don't
00:48:51.210 --> 00:48:52.989
know where it is. I have no idea. There's no
00:48:52.989 --> 00:48:57.730
confirmation. People talk about, well, Tara would
00:48:57.730 --> 00:48:59.570
know. Well, Sawyer would know. Well, Riddick
00:48:59.570 --> 00:49:02.929
would know. Someone says, I felt like it was
00:49:02.929 --> 00:49:04.909
around the panty line and maybe the tail wraps
00:49:04.909 --> 00:49:06.909
around her upper thigh. And that's hot and I
00:49:06.909 --> 00:49:09.409
like that. So that's my new headcanon. Never
00:49:09.409 --> 00:49:13.219
know. It could be a tramp stamp right here. I
00:49:13.219 --> 00:49:14.840
was having that thought this whole time about,
00:49:14.860 --> 00:49:18.239
like, little dragon relic tramps. I like it wrapping
00:49:18.239 --> 00:49:20.519
around her thigh. That's, I like that. That is
00:49:20.519 --> 00:49:23.639
cooler, and Rhiannon's pretty cool, so I think
00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:28.619
that tracks. So they've reached breakfast, and
00:49:28.619 --> 00:49:31.280
behind the counter, taking Vi's old duty, is
00:49:31.280 --> 00:49:36.940
Orin of the Seifer clan. Oh, of the, of the...
00:49:37.119 --> 00:49:39.340
Fuck, what is it? Little incel bitch boy club.
00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:41.639
Bitch boy club. Okay, good. Because I wrote,
00:49:41.719 --> 00:49:44.280
I was pretty sure that was the correct order
00:49:44.280 --> 00:49:47.860
of the words, but I wasn't sure. Okay. I do have
00:49:47.860 --> 00:49:51.480
something to say, though, about this. So, this
00:49:51.480 --> 00:49:55.599
is going all back to the fucking manosphere incel,
00:49:55.599 --> 00:50:01.210
like, vibe that these boys give off. So. Not
00:50:01.210 --> 00:50:04.650
only did Oren not bond, but he is being literally
00:50:04.650 --> 00:50:08.409
put in Violet's old place and he views her as
00:50:08.409 --> 00:50:11.489
being in his rightful place. And so this is all
00:50:11.489 --> 00:50:17.050
about. And now I can't think of the word. This
00:50:17.050 --> 00:50:19.679
is all about. All about a woman in the kitchen.
00:50:19.860 --> 00:50:22.719
Conversion? That, too. No, it's about, like,
00:50:22.820 --> 00:50:24.940
what you think you deserve. Entitlement. It's
00:50:24.940 --> 00:50:26.719
all about entitlement. He believes that he is
00:50:26.719 --> 00:50:29.300
entitled to where she is, and he is going to
00:50:29.300 --> 00:50:31.099
try and put her back into her place, even if
00:50:31.099 --> 00:50:31.960
that means, like, killing her. Because she stole
00:50:31.960 --> 00:50:35.420
it from him. Yes. Yep. Yeah. And now he has to
00:50:35.420 --> 00:50:40.369
do the domestic duties, as John said. My first
00:50:40.369 --> 00:50:42.969
thought was, oh no, now he can poison her, but
00:50:42.969 --> 00:50:45.670
he doesn't have a book of killing or plant knowledge.
00:50:45.670 --> 00:50:47.349
Does he look smart enough to be able to pull
00:50:47.349 --> 00:50:51.130
that off? Can he even read? I was like, it pays
00:50:51.130 --> 00:50:56.090
to be a literate botanist, which he is not. This
00:50:56.090 --> 00:50:58.409
thought also occurs to Violet, so to be safe,
00:50:58.429 --> 00:51:00.550
she doesn't take any of the food he's serving
00:51:00.550 --> 00:51:02.869
and only gets tamper -proof food like fruit.
00:51:03.150 --> 00:51:05.710
And I was wondering how fruit is tamper -proof.
00:51:05.869 --> 00:51:08.409
Notably, she takes an orange which has a rind.
00:51:08.670 --> 00:51:11.530
You can just inject it. Yeah, you can take the
00:51:11.530 --> 00:51:14.369
peel off. I still feel like, I mean, again, we're
00:51:14.369 --> 00:51:17.329
getting into, like, chemical poisoning at this
00:51:17.329 --> 00:51:20.409
point, which they might not be utilizing in this
00:51:20.409 --> 00:51:22.929
scenario. I bet they've got needles. Well, like...
00:51:23.070 --> 00:51:25.690
I'm sure there are ways that you could ruin fruit.
00:51:25.769 --> 00:51:27.869
There are if you really wanted to be smart enough
00:51:27.869 --> 00:51:29.750
about it, but I would argue that most of the
00:51:29.750 --> 00:51:31.829
ways we can think of are not available to them.
00:51:31.869 --> 00:51:33.869
They don't have needles. They can't have needles.
00:51:34.210 --> 00:51:36.250
Everything has got to be an elixir that you drink.
00:51:36.750 --> 00:51:40.329
I don't know. If they did have needles, why didn't
00:51:40.329 --> 00:51:42.590
Violet get a shot when she was... They could
00:51:42.590 --> 00:51:45.070
have metalbenders develop... If they knew that
00:51:45.070 --> 00:51:47.530
was a technology they could develop, a metalbender
00:51:47.530 --> 00:51:50.130
could theoretically maybe, with some super precision
00:51:50.130 --> 00:51:52.949
skill... make needles, but they'd have to know
00:51:52.949 --> 00:51:56.289
that it was an option in order to train that.
00:51:56.710 --> 00:51:59.869
I don't know. Even though if he were to tamper
00:51:59.869 --> 00:52:02.909
with the fruit, I guess that is much less precise
00:52:02.909 --> 00:52:06.150
than handing her poisoned food. So overall, I
00:52:06.150 --> 00:52:10.409
would say it is a safer option. Yeah. So they
00:52:10.409 --> 00:52:12.889
go to sit down and everyone else scampers away
00:52:12.889 --> 00:52:16.090
from them. No new friends for Sorin, Gale, and
00:52:16.090 --> 00:52:22.019
Squad. But a little ways away. The opposite is
00:52:22.019 --> 00:52:24.579
happening to mother -flopping Jack Barlow, who
00:52:24.579 --> 00:52:27.320
is getting pushed out of his table and not allowed
00:52:27.320 --> 00:52:30.599
to sit with anybody else. And I have more. I
00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:33.940
have more about this. Okay. So I wrote, these
00:52:33.940 --> 00:52:36.139
are like the mediocre white guys that complain
00:52:36.139 --> 00:52:39.949
about DEI. Because a more qualified woman or
00:52:39.949 --> 00:52:41.889
person of color gets the job that they normally
00:52:41.889 --> 00:52:45.969
would have gotten without even trying. Yep, yep.
00:52:46.429 --> 00:52:49.389
That hits a little close to home. Very relevant
00:52:49.389 --> 00:52:51.909
to the political landscape that we are currently
00:52:51.909 --> 00:52:54.909
living in. But yeah, they're just a bunch of
00:52:54.909 --> 00:52:59.090
little bitch boys that are mediocre and think
00:52:59.090 --> 00:53:03.309
that they deserve more than they do. Yeah. And
00:53:03.309 --> 00:53:07.039
I hate them. They're tacky and I hate them. Yeah.
00:53:08.340 --> 00:53:11.139
Much like me and Drew, Rydock feels smug about
00:53:11.139 --> 00:53:13.639
this and Violet worries that it's further fuel
00:53:13.639 --> 00:53:17.860
to Mother Foggy Jack Barlow's angry fire. Drew's
00:53:17.860 --> 00:53:21.820
the smug one, I'm the worried one. Mother Foggy?
00:53:23.079 --> 00:53:28.599
Yes. I would say that that feels pretty typical
00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:34.280
along gender lines. the women may feel a little
00:53:34.280 --> 00:53:37.880
more scared about, they say there's nothing like
00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:41.159
a woman scorned, but a man scorned can kill you.
00:53:41.260 --> 00:53:44.440
And there are many cases. The man's allowed to
00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:47.219
be scorned. The woman has to fight for her scorn.
00:53:47.260 --> 00:53:50.539
Yeah. Yeah. But Violet puts it perfectly. Feral
00:53:50.539 --> 00:53:56.219
dogs bite harder when they're cornered. Finally,
00:53:56.300 --> 00:53:59.820
my fave Imogen invites herself to the table and
00:53:59.820 --> 00:54:02.699
informs them all that the weird politeness is
00:54:02.699 --> 00:54:04.960
because Violet bonded the most powerful dragon,
00:54:05.139 --> 00:54:07.980
Tarn. No one wants to be on her bad side now.
00:54:08.199 --> 00:54:11.139
I just wrote, ugh, I love her. I love her. And
00:54:11.139 --> 00:54:14.340
while that power is scaring everyone else off,
00:54:14.599 --> 00:54:16.900
Imogen and Quinn want to be right in the center
00:54:16.900 --> 00:54:20.099
of it. Well, of course. And now for a fashion
00:54:20.099 --> 00:54:24.329
interlude. Did you have a comment before we get
00:54:24.329 --> 00:54:28.429
into our fashion? No, go ahead. I was just going
00:54:28.429 --> 00:54:30.210
to say this is the first time that Quinn is actually
00:54:30.210 --> 00:54:34.110
named. Yes, she's not just the one with earrings.
00:54:34.170 --> 00:54:36.250
Yes, and we get that confirmed that she is the
00:54:36.250 --> 00:54:39.050
one with all of those earrings from chapter,
00:54:39.170 --> 00:54:43.449
what, three? Yes, and we get, I think this is
00:54:43.449 --> 00:54:48.079
more of a descriptive description. sorry i'm
00:54:48.079 --> 00:54:53.500
sorry that's not the best phrasing a more detailed
00:54:53.500 --> 00:54:57.019
description than we got before um she has hoops
00:54:57.019 --> 00:55:00.539
hooped earrings that go all the way up both ears
00:55:00.539 --> 00:55:02.900
so it's not just like one hoop on each side um
00:55:02.900 --> 00:55:04.980
and this sounds very cool i've never seen someone
00:55:04.980 --> 00:55:07.500
do this before and now i want to look up pictures
00:55:07.500 --> 00:55:09.739
because i didn't do that during my research we
00:55:09.739 --> 00:55:14.239
don't have time right now She also has her signet
00:55:14.239 --> 00:55:17.280
patch, which is dark green to match her eyes
00:55:17.280 --> 00:55:20.960
with two silhouettes on it representing her doubling
00:55:20.960 --> 00:55:23.659
power. So I don't know if we've seen, I don't,
00:55:23.659 --> 00:55:25.500
we obviously we haven't seen this yet because
00:55:25.500 --> 00:55:28.059
this is the first book. Did you just call it
00:55:28.059 --> 00:55:32.860
doubling? Isn't it projection? It's like, yeah,
00:55:32.980 --> 00:55:35.800
she gets to make a fake copy. It's spirit walking.
00:55:35.860 --> 00:55:39.590
It's spirit projection. Okay, well, there's a
00:55:39.590 --> 00:55:43.489
real her and a fake her. Metaphysically speaking,
00:55:43.769 --> 00:55:48.349
either one is the fake one. There can be two
00:55:48.349 --> 00:55:51.349
of her in two different places at the same time,
00:55:51.369 --> 00:55:55.570
okay? But fine, astral projection is a cooler
00:55:55.570 --> 00:55:59.329
sounding name than just, like, Pokemon making
00:55:59.329 --> 00:56:06.030
doubles kind of move. It seems like... So this
00:56:06.030 --> 00:56:07.690
is something I wasn't sure about, but it seems
00:56:07.690 --> 00:56:11.110
like all of the patches change every year because
00:56:11.110 --> 00:56:13.369
Violet laments the pointlessness of trying to
00:56:13.369 --> 00:56:19.449
study any of them, not just the Cygnets and not
00:56:19.449 --> 00:56:21.869
just their, like, ranked patches, but, like,
00:56:21.869 --> 00:56:25.570
all of them. And I don't like this. That seems
00:56:25.570 --> 00:56:27.429
so disorganized. It's very disorganized. Like,
00:56:27.429 --> 00:56:30.789
why even have them? Yeah. And I don't know. The
00:56:30.789 --> 00:56:32.710
only thing that makes sense for me is that they,
00:56:32.769 --> 00:56:35.260
that... The only thing that would make sense
00:56:35.260 --> 00:56:37.159
for me is that the signet patches change and
00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:40.380
they only change like the new ones. So like you
00:56:40.380 --> 00:56:42.599
keep the same one every year. But like if a new
00:56:42.599 --> 00:56:45.000
person were to get that signet, they would get
00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:47.019
a different one for that. I don't know. It still
00:56:47.019 --> 00:56:48.880
doesn't make any sense to me. I just feel like
00:56:48.880 --> 00:56:52.219
it's so silly. So it just doesn't. Yeah, it seems.
00:56:52.699 --> 00:56:55.340
There could be multiple directions to think about
00:56:55.340 --> 00:56:59.260
this in. Direction number one. Very few signets
00:56:59.260 --> 00:57:03.820
are actually standard. Like, you have your fire
00:57:03.820 --> 00:57:06.460
wielders, water wielders, ice wielders, wind
00:57:06.460 --> 00:57:09.099
wielders, right? Let's just consider those four
00:57:09.099 --> 00:57:10.960
right there. Your four elements. Even though
00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:13.099
water is listed twice, but yes. Let's go ahead
00:57:13.099 --> 00:57:15.519
and list four elements. Yes, 3 .5. Even if you
00:57:15.519 --> 00:57:18.000
have those, consider Riddick, who's an ice wielder,
00:57:18.039 --> 00:57:20.500
but is capable of freezing ice inside of another
00:57:20.500 --> 00:57:25.519
object. And so, in my brain, I kind of have this
00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:28.960
idea where when really weirdo signets show up
00:57:28.960 --> 00:57:32.539
that aren't standard... They just kind of send
00:57:32.539 --> 00:57:35.199
you to go meet with the patch maker and design
00:57:35.199 --> 00:57:37.019
your own patch. And you get to design your own.
00:57:37.900 --> 00:57:40.079
Designing your own makes sense, but then, like,
00:57:40.079 --> 00:57:41.980
what do you do? Design a new one for yourself
00:57:41.980 --> 00:57:45.400
every year? No, and then it's yours. And so that's
00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:48.059
my point is, like, maybe all water wielders have
00:57:48.059 --> 00:57:52.480
blue patches. Like, it's made blue somehow, but
00:57:52.480 --> 00:57:55.739
what form it takes is kind of a personal expression,
00:57:55.960 --> 00:57:58.320
but then it's going to be your patch for the
00:57:58.320 --> 00:58:04.389
rest of your career. I like this idea, but it's
00:58:04.389 --> 00:58:07.250
not what it sounds like is happening. It sounds
00:58:07.250 --> 00:58:14.170
like they change what the signs are. You know
00:58:14.170 --> 00:58:18.469
what I mean? Which is also a strategic security
00:58:18.469 --> 00:58:23.119
army point of view. So, like, does only a squad
00:58:23.119 --> 00:58:25.579
know what their internal patches mean? Basically.
00:58:25.599 --> 00:58:27.559
Yeah, the patches just become irrelevant at that
00:58:27.559 --> 00:58:29.780
point because if it's, you would already know
00:58:29.780 --> 00:58:33.500
in your squad who has what. Yeah. And if it's
00:58:33.500 --> 00:58:36.460
pointless to study on it because it keeps changing,
00:58:36.699 --> 00:58:39.920
then it doesn't do your side any good either.
00:58:42.280 --> 00:58:46.320
No comment. I don't know. I disagree with this.
00:58:46.340 --> 00:58:50.840
I have a comparison for them later, but for now.
00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:53.519
that's all i have to say about that and like
00:58:53.519 --> 00:58:57.380
uh violet admires her and like and like oh i
00:58:57.380 --> 00:58:59.159
was gonna say you have something else to say
00:58:59.159 --> 00:59:00.940
when it comes to my theory about making their
00:59:00.940 --> 00:59:02.880
own patches i could be completely wrong because
00:59:02.880 --> 00:59:05.639
when violet gets her patch she just kind of describes
00:59:05.639 --> 00:59:08.980
it as black with white lines it's not like she
00:59:08.980 --> 00:59:11.820
says and i got to design it so i had to make
00:59:11.820 --> 00:59:17.159
this shape yeah yeah yeah i doubt that they actually
00:59:17.159 --> 00:59:18.719
get very much input on this it's just kind of
00:59:18.719 --> 00:59:20.769
like handed to them and they get to Put it on
00:59:20.769 --> 00:59:25.250
somewhere. Who's making the patches? See, this
00:59:25.250 --> 00:59:26.949
is a question I have. I'll get there in like
00:59:26.949 --> 00:59:31.789
three sentences. Okay, sorry. So Violet admires
00:59:31.789 --> 00:59:34.269
her flame -shaped fourth wing patch that they
00:59:34.269 --> 00:59:36.090
all got, and we learn that they get to stitch
00:59:36.090 --> 00:59:38.150
them under the uniforms themselves, which makes
00:59:38.150 --> 00:59:40.349
sense because who has the time to be doing all
00:59:40.349 --> 00:59:42.590
these small sewing jobs for every single new
00:59:42.590 --> 00:59:47.110
writer? Wait, and that reminds me, Tyler. Did
00:59:47.110 --> 00:59:50.070
you have to sew on your own patches? like if
00:59:50.070 --> 00:59:59.230
yeah okay okay so yeah they leave it up to service
00:59:59.230 --> 01:00:01.750
members as well but tyler took his to a seamstress
01:00:01.750 --> 01:00:04.590
instead of doing it himself yeah because i was
01:00:04.590 --> 01:00:06.530
going to say this brings into question the handiwork
01:00:06.530 --> 01:00:09.349
of all the writers and whether or not rick's
01:00:09.349 --> 01:00:13.539
patches actually stick yeah like are they staying
01:00:13.539 --> 01:00:15.619
on or are they falling off like are they going
01:00:15.619 --> 01:00:18.039
to the like oh that writer over there she knows
01:00:18.039 --> 01:00:20.380
how to sew we're gonna give her all of the uniforms
01:00:20.380 --> 01:00:23.059
and tell her where to put them because this just
01:00:23.059 --> 01:00:26.239
yeah i don't trust that everyone here knows how
01:00:26.239 --> 01:00:30.079
to sew yeah it makes me think of a bartering
01:00:30.079 --> 01:00:33.280
system though could Could exist. It makes me
01:00:33.280 --> 01:00:35.559
think of the joke about the costuming department
01:00:35.559 --> 01:00:38.699
for the time travelers where, like, you want
01:00:38.699 --> 01:00:43.280
to go to 1600s Baroque England? Yes! Phone courses
01:00:43.280 --> 01:00:48.099
take at least three weeks notice. You want a
01:00:48.099 --> 01:00:50.119
book, you want a time travel book that, like,
01:00:50.119 --> 01:00:53.840
really leans into that? Um, D .O .D .O., the...
01:00:53.840 --> 01:00:57.019
I don't even remember what it stands for, but
01:00:57.019 --> 01:01:01.019
it's got two authors, um, and they really...
01:01:01.849 --> 01:01:03.590
I just really like how much emphasis they put
01:01:03.590 --> 01:01:06.030
on the whole, like, no, you cannot get that.
01:01:06.030 --> 01:01:07.530
No, you cannot take this one because someone
01:01:07.530 --> 01:01:10.070
else needs to take that dress to this place over
01:01:10.070 --> 01:01:14.630
here. And it will not be clean in time for you
01:01:14.630 --> 01:01:19.070
to take it next. Have you tried to steam a Victorian
01:01:19.070 --> 01:01:24.800
gown? Okay, so then my next question is, does
01:01:24.800 --> 01:01:27.139
Zayden really not wear his for secrecy purposes
01:01:27.139 --> 01:01:32.380
or is he just a really bad sewist? Honestly,
01:01:32.679 --> 01:01:35.820
he grew up essentially as like a little prince,
01:01:35.920 --> 01:01:38.579
so I doubt that he ever had to learn how to sew.
01:01:38.800 --> 01:01:41.699
But at some point you think that like Garak or
01:01:41.699 --> 01:01:45.219
Bodhi or Imogen or someone would look at Zayden
01:01:45.219 --> 01:01:47.460
and be like, you want me to sew the patch on
01:01:47.460 --> 01:01:51.710
for you? No, because then you'd be like, no,
01:01:51.769 --> 01:01:53.389
I'm making a statement with his arm crossed.
01:01:53.550 --> 01:01:56.010
Yes, at that point, he's like, no, this is reasons.
01:01:56.110 --> 01:02:00.869
This is who I am. I know how to sew. I'm just
01:02:00.869 --> 01:02:05.269
imagining The Incredibles 2. It defines who I
01:02:05.269 --> 01:02:10.909
am. Where did you hear that? I don't know. Someone
01:02:10.909 --> 01:02:16.940
on TV. Yep. My next question is, do you think
01:02:16.940 --> 01:02:18.780
the people who don't put them on their uniform
01:02:18.780 --> 01:02:22.420
put them, like, somewhere else? Like a blanket?
01:02:22.519 --> 01:02:24.920
Like how you put water bottle stickers on, like,
01:02:24.920 --> 01:02:27.460
you put on your laptop or your whatever? Or,
01:02:27.480 --> 01:02:29.599
and this is kind of a really side note, but,
01:02:29.619 --> 01:02:32.440
like, some Boy Scouts will, they get a sash,
01:02:32.679 --> 01:02:35.019
and they put all of their patches on the sash
01:02:35.019 --> 01:02:38.110
rather than their uniform. That is... An upcoming
01:02:38.110 --> 01:02:43.050
comment that I have. I don't know where it comes,
01:02:43.289 --> 01:02:45.789
but it is somewhere in this chapter. I feel like
01:02:45.789 --> 01:02:48.969
Zayden just throws his in a little wardrobe.
01:02:49.909 --> 01:02:52.969
But I really want to picture Zayden with like,
01:02:53.030 --> 01:02:54.809
I don't know, like a little baby blanket or something
01:02:54.809 --> 01:02:56.730
that he's like stitched his patches all in the
01:02:56.730 --> 01:03:00.650
corner of. Just for like keepsake purposes. Because
01:03:00.650 --> 01:03:03.449
of course, Zayden fucking Ryerson is planning
01:03:03.449 --> 01:03:06.469
the baby blanket he's going to give to his children.
01:03:07.500 --> 01:03:11.940
Look, he's so softy in there. He's sentimental.
01:03:12.480 --> 01:03:14.860
Let's write Rebecca a letter. Hey, Rebecca, can
01:03:14.860 --> 01:03:18.659
you please put in? Petition? We just need to
01:03:18.659 --> 01:03:21.039
get a bunch of signatures from relevant constituents.
01:03:24.639 --> 01:03:27.239
We need to make this a poll in our stories for
01:03:27.239 --> 01:03:37.460
this episode. Would you sign our petition? Okay,
01:03:37.500 --> 01:03:41.260
so we're back at the table. Fashion show's over.
01:03:41.940 --> 01:03:45.860
Sawyer, Heaton, and Emery also join. Heaton is
01:03:45.860 --> 01:03:50.199
wondering why Orin didn't bond any dragons, to
01:03:50.199 --> 01:03:53.739
which Violet reveals the murder attempt on Andarna.
01:03:54.480 --> 01:03:56.280
There's a lot going on, so they don't really
01:03:56.280 --> 01:04:00.199
talk about this much. She says, maybe I should
01:04:00.199 --> 01:04:03.079
have kept that to myself. And again, why? Why?
01:04:03.079 --> 01:04:05.300
Why do you need to keep this to yourself? If
01:04:05.300 --> 01:04:07.039
more people know, more people can have your fucking
01:04:07.039 --> 01:04:10.679
back. Right? There's no reason to keep this to
01:04:10.679 --> 01:04:13.400
yourself. You are not hurting yourself in any
01:04:13.400 --> 01:04:15.360
way, shape, or form by sharing the information
01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:18.559
that you protected a dragon from murderous humans.
01:04:19.619 --> 01:04:24.820
Yep. Like, yeah, that's big info right there.
01:04:25.820 --> 01:04:28.940
But instead, they just jump to speculating that
01:04:28.940 --> 01:04:31.420
mother fuzzy Jack Barlow only managed to bond
01:04:31.420 --> 01:04:36.019
because he found a small dragon. Mother fuzzy?
01:04:39.719 --> 01:04:43.099
I swear to God, half of my reactions tonight
01:04:43.099 --> 01:04:45.280
are just going to be which way you decide to
01:04:45.280 --> 01:04:49.239
say motherfucking Jack Barlow. Motherfucking
01:04:49.239 --> 01:04:53.170
Jack Barlow. But, of course. The age -old question
01:04:53.170 --> 01:04:57.650
that we discussed last episode. Or did he? Especially
01:04:57.650 --> 01:05:00.090
because it's a smaller dragon. I don't know.
01:05:00.570 --> 01:05:03.170
I don't think he's bonded. Oh, that's what I
01:05:03.170 --> 01:05:05.789
was going to say. Could it also be that he only
01:05:05.789 --> 01:05:08.389
managed to entrap a small, weaker -minded dragon
01:05:08.389 --> 01:05:12.429
with his Venom powers? And instead of talking
01:05:12.429 --> 01:05:14.889
about all of this, Rhiannon suddenly notices
01:05:14.889 --> 01:05:17.630
that Violet is only eating fruit. And that's
01:05:17.630 --> 01:05:22.340
no way to bulk up. This is like me talking to
01:05:22.340 --> 01:05:24.760
Cara about how she's been trying to gain weight
01:05:24.760 --> 01:05:28.699
because she's so small and just can't get her
01:05:28.699 --> 01:05:34.360
to put anything on. And I've seen, I mean, I've
01:05:34.360 --> 01:05:35.659
seen what she eats for dinner because that's
01:05:35.659 --> 01:05:38.219
what the rest of us eat for dinner. But her and
01:05:38.219 --> 01:05:40.880
Drew, they're so bad at remembering to eat anything
01:05:40.880 --> 01:05:44.039
during the day. Same. But then I eat a ton at
01:05:44.039 --> 01:05:45.960
night to make up for it. And that's not good.
01:05:45.960 --> 01:05:48.260
I used to do that. And the dietician told me
01:05:48.260 --> 01:05:50.860
to stop doing that. Well, I know I should stop.
01:05:51.099 --> 01:05:54.139
Even if I wasn't hungry. And so I started doing
01:05:54.139 --> 01:05:57.380
that. And I guess it made a difference because
01:05:57.380 --> 01:06:02.300
my triglycerides and other things started looking
01:06:02.300 --> 01:06:05.260
better. And I stopped getting headaches in the
01:06:05.260 --> 01:06:07.659
evening, and I stopped being as dizzy and tired
01:06:07.659 --> 01:06:10.019
before dinner, and I stopped getting hunger cramps.
01:06:10.199 --> 01:06:12.980
Like, I'm just saying, it sucks, but you have
01:06:12.980 --> 01:06:18.179
to do it. So, like a good mom friend, Imogen
01:06:18.179 --> 01:06:20.760
scrapes her sausage onto Violet's plate. While
01:06:20.760 --> 01:06:27.190
complaining. But ever suspicious, Violet is certain
01:06:27.190 --> 01:06:29.230
that Imogen is trying to trick her into eating
01:06:29.230 --> 01:06:31.909
poison because it was her who brought up the
01:06:31.909 --> 01:06:33.650
question of killing her at that secret meeting.
01:06:33.969 --> 01:06:36.670
Yes. But Violet doesn't know the rules of girl
01:06:36.670 --> 01:06:39.429
code or folks who eat at the same lunch table.
01:06:42.409 --> 01:06:46.329
Or the bond that the marked ones have that now
01:06:46.329 --> 01:06:50.070
Violet is an honorary inductee of. Yes. And Imogen
01:06:50.070 --> 01:06:53.150
isn't even making anyone else wear pink on Wednesdays
01:06:53.150 --> 01:06:59.030
or otherwise. So just get with the program. But
01:06:59.030 --> 01:07:03.289
of course, she's always sporting the pink. Always.
01:07:03.769 --> 01:07:08.090
See, she's taking it for the team. Yes. Grumpy
01:07:08.090 --> 01:07:10.409
dad Tarn tells her to just eat it, so she gives
01:07:10.409 --> 01:07:13.760
in. Grumpy dead Taryn. And he says you can trust
01:07:13.760 --> 01:07:17.880
her because Zayden does. Because he knows. It
01:07:17.880 --> 01:07:21.860
all comes back. Not to mention the fact that
01:07:21.860 --> 01:07:25.199
Taryn probably hunted down her dragon and threatened
01:07:25.199 --> 01:07:29.539
bodily harm if it wasn't friendly. Probably.
01:07:32.679 --> 01:07:36.719
Again with their conversation at this lunch or
01:07:36.719 --> 01:07:39.989
breakfast being all over the place. We're now
01:07:39.989 --> 01:07:42.110
off to Emery showing off their signet with a
01:07:42.110 --> 01:07:45.489
whoosh through the dishware. But then the extent
01:07:45.489 --> 01:07:48.349
of their skill is classified and no one gets
01:07:48.349 --> 01:07:52.730
to find out anything else. Just a quick point
01:07:52.730 --> 01:07:55.070
of order there. Emery, I believe, is he him.
01:07:55.869 --> 01:08:00.360
Heaton is they them. Look, anyone can be they
01:08:00.360 --> 01:08:02.659
by default. No, absolutely. It just does say
01:08:02.659 --> 01:08:07.699
he. They keep being talked about in the same
01:08:07.699 --> 01:08:11.239
paragraphs, and so I just... I literally don't
01:08:11.239 --> 01:08:13.139
think we get anything from Heaton other than
01:08:13.139 --> 01:08:17.319
they sit at the table. Yeah. And says, I thought
01:08:17.319 --> 01:08:19.300
that Oren would... Yeah, Heaton's the one that
01:08:19.300 --> 01:08:21.869
asks about Oren, and then... I don't think Heaton
01:08:21.869 --> 01:08:24.050
is a very talkative person. Later, they both
01:08:24.050 --> 01:08:26.069
make comments about how they never wanted to
01:08:26.069 --> 01:08:28.270
be in leadership to begin with, and that's just
01:08:28.270 --> 01:08:30.470
kind of the extent of the last we hear from them.
01:08:31.449 --> 01:08:36.449
Yeah. Yeah. So Emery is like, none of your business.
01:08:37.130 --> 01:08:39.670
I just wanted to show off, but not tell you anything.
01:08:40.189 --> 01:08:42.829
And now we're back to Imogen, who's informing
01:08:42.829 --> 01:08:45.170
Violet that she's taking over sparring lessons
01:08:45.170 --> 01:08:49.180
from Rhiannon. Tough luck, but Imogen has seniority
01:08:49.180 --> 01:08:53.880
and superior skill on you, so you can't really
01:08:53.880 --> 01:08:56.359
object. I think we need to do a retake because
01:08:56.359 --> 01:09:00.039
she's not taking over sparring lessons. She's
01:09:00.039 --> 01:09:03.920
adding on weight training. That is true. She
01:09:03.920 --> 01:09:09.159
is. Yes, but she basically is saying, yeah, because
01:09:09.159 --> 01:09:10.920
she's talking about meeting in the sparring gym
01:09:10.920 --> 01:09:14.140
and she doesn't really explain. She just says,
01:09:14.140 --> 01:09:15.859
I'm going to help you with weights. You need
01:09:15.859 --> 01:09:17.600
to strengthen the muscles around your joints.
01:09:17.779 --> 01:09:22.680
And I just wrote, like me and Cass. Super relevant.
01:09:23.079 --> 01:09:24.560
Especially if you want to climb on a dragon.
01:09:24.880 --> 01:09:27.600
Okay, so yes. She's not taking over sparring.
01:09:28.159 --> 01:09:30.979
She's just saying sparring is insufficient. Yes.
01:09:31.079 --> 01:09:34.460
Which, yeah. Yeah. That's like how my... PT is
01:09:34.460 --> 01:09:37.579
like, just because walking, just regular old
01:09:37.579 --> 01:09:40.159
walking, is making your calves sore, doesn't
01:09:40.159 --> 01:09:42.119
mean that's enough to strengthen them. You have
01:09:42.119 --> 01:09:45.300
to actually do the exercises. Rude. So that walking
01:09:45.300 --> 01:09:49.479
will stop making your calves sore. I'm like,
01:09:49.520 --> 01:09:56.560
but it hurts. Sounds fake, but okay. Violet can't
01:09:56.560 --> 01:09:58.779
figure out why Imogen cares, because she's not
01:09:58.779 --> 01:10:01.619
even on her squad. But she's one of Zayden's
01:10:01.619 --> 01:10:04.060
top crew, and Violet has to stay alive to keep
01:10:04.060 --> 01:10:06.920
Zayden alive. Well, they are in the same squad,
01:10:07.060 --> 01:10:10.079
but that didn't matter earlier. Because of the
01:10:10.079 --> 01:10:14.140
reshuffling. They've always been in the same
01:10:14.140 --> 01:10:15.920
squad. They are in the same squad. Always been.
01:10:16.140 --> 01:10:17.800
So she's just saying it's not a squad thing,
01:10:17.840 --> 01:10:20.060
because obviously she had no qualms about trying
01:10:20.060 --> 01:10:22.000
to rip my arm off when we were in the same squad.
01:10:22.140 --> 01:10:24.300
Yes, because they were willing to kill her before,
01:10:24.479 --> 01:10:29.670
but yeah. So you're right. The main reason is
01:10:29.670 --> 01:10:31.710
that everybody who's marked knows that, like,
01:10:31.710 --> 01:10:35.310
now that they're bonded to mated dragons, like,
01:10:35.350 --> 01:10:40.250
they've got to keep each other alive. Yep. And
01:10:40.250 --> 01:10:42.109
that means, unfortunately, they have to keep
01:10:42.109 --> 01:10:44.869
Violet alive, too. Even though they hate her.
01:10:45.050 --> 01:10:49.079
They'll come to love her, don't worry. So sharpening
01:10:49.079 --> 01:10:52.020
up that weak link is Imogen's top priority and
01:10:52.020 --> 01:10:55.439
possibly in order. Oh, most definitely in order.
01:10:55.539 --> 01:11:00.020
Most definitely in order. But yeah, Violet's
01:11:00.020 --> 01:11:02.760
just, we don't get confirmation of that. Violet's
01:11:02.760 --> 01:11:05.460
just, you know, we know that Violet is speculating.
01:11:05.479 --> 01:11:09.460
Yes. We get some covert, in quotes, glances over
01:11:09.460 --> 01:11:13.100
to Zayden's table where she catches Garak's worried
01:11:13.100 --> 01:11:16.939
face and ogles Zayden peeling an apple with a
01:11:16.939 --> 01:11:22.079
dagger. Um, hot, first of all. Yes. That's hilarious.
01:11:22.260 --> 01:11:24.640
Okay, your reaction versus, I have a sticky note
01:11:24.640 --> 01:11:27.319
here from Drew that says, just eat the apple,
01:11:27.399 --> 01:11:31.640
you prima donna. No. Fuck you, Drew. Sorry. Yeah,
01:11:31.640 --> 01:11:34.380
like, if he had knife skills, like, not just
01:11:34.380 --> 01:11:36.960
chopping, cooking knife skills, but, like, if
01:11:36.960 --> 01:11:39.039
you could peel an apple in one strip, he wouldn't.
01:11:39.039 --> 01:11:42.760
While not even looking. Yeah. So, my thing is,
01:11:42.859 --> 01:11:48.720
like, have you guys watched Firefly? No. Yes.
01:11:49.399 --> 01:11:52.420
We just made Kara start watching it. It's amazing.
01:11:52.960 --> 01:11:55.140
There's an episode in the middle of the season
01:11:55.140 --> 01:11:58.380
where they talk about how Captain Reynolds and
01:11:58.380 --> 01:12:02.600
his first officer, Zoe, will never bite into
01:12:02.600 --> 01:12:08.100
fruit. They always cut into it. And why? And
01:12:08.100 --> 01:12:09.880
the answer is because you never know if it's
01:12:09.880 --> 01:12:11.979
fruit or if it's something that looks like fruit,
01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:16.300
but will blow your head off. and so that's that's
01:12:16.300 --> 01:12:19.979
the image i have is zayden is like making sure
01:12:19.979 --> 01:12:27.539
that it's actually an apple yeah just maybe with
01:12:27.539 --> 01:12:31.159
explosives instead of poison right like i don't
01:12:31.159 --> 01:12:32.920
know if they have explosives of that nature in
01:12:32.920 --> 01:12:35.899
this world but it's do they have like does someone
01:12:35.899 --> 01:12:42.979
have like a mimicry signet Careful of that chest.
01:12:43.079 --> 01:12:47.880
It might be a mimic. Now I'm just watching Jared
01:12:47.880 --> 01:12:51.199
hit every chest in every game because it might
01:12:51.199 --> 01:12:53.539
bite him every time he plays it. Can I do an
01:12:53.539 --> 01:13:03.619
investigation check on that apple? Okay. Roll
01:13:03.619 --> 01:13:06.760
me your investigation. Wait, wait. I have a d20
01:13:06.760 --> 01:13:09.739
around here somewhere. I need a perception roll.
01:13:10.500 --> 01:13:13.399
Yeah, perception check. Well, no, I'm looking
01:13:13.399 --> 01:13:16.239
at it. I'm investigating. I have a plus two to
01:13:16.239 --> 01:13:18.039
investigation. Yeah, those are different. See,
01:13:18.159 --> 01:13:20.020
I don't play this enough to say the correct things.
01:13:20.119 --> 01:13:22.159
I just know that you have to roll things, and
01:13:22.159 --> 01:13:24.640
if your score is high or low, I get to tell you
01:13:24.640 --> 01:13:27.720
if you noticed. Oh, man. No one knocked my dice
01:13:27.720 --> 01:13:29.760
out all over the place. I'm doing this. Hold
01:13:29.760 --> 01:13:34.979
on. I have one at work for rolling which square
01:13:34.979 --> 01:13:38.619
of substrate to look for bugs in. We used to
01:13:38.619 --> 01:13:42.310
use... two um regular dice to like do a grid
01:13:42.310 --> 01:13:45.109
system but one of my co -workers just randomly
01:13:45.109 --> 01:13:48.149
came in one day and was like i got everyone d20s
01:13:48.149 --> 01:13:51.350
oh i love that okay or no actually they're d30s
01:13:51.350 --> 01:13:56.109
because we have 30 grids okay uh i got a three
01:13:56.109 --> 01:13:59.869
so yeah yeah who knows it's an apple it's a fruit
01:13:59.869 --> 01:14:07.970
to you so Violet and Zayden's eyes lock and her
01:14:07.970 --> 01:14:11.210
head tingles. We get a spidey sense alert. We
01:14:11.210 --> 01:14:14.109
get a spidey sense. And all that he is seeing
01:14:14.109 --> 01:14:17.270
are her sexy, naughty, dirty intentions towards
01:14:17.270 --> 01:14:21.710
him. And that's not helping him. Mentally, Violet
01:14:21.710 --> 01:14:24.289
is swooning over the table with a handkerchief
01:14:24.289 --> 01:14:27.350
to her forehead, lamenting, how can he be so
01:14:27.350 --> 01:14:31.619
hot? She's like. I'll have what he's having,
01:14:31.720 --> 01:14:34.779
please. And he's ordering his pawns around to
01:14:34.779 --> 01:14:38.439
save me. Yeah. Can he undress me like he's undressing
01:14:38.439 --> 01:14:43.640
that apple? He's already struggling. You want
01:14:43.640 --> 01:14:45.880
him to peel your clothing off of you with a blade?
01:14:47.239 --> 01:14:50.180
Wait, what? What? You want him to peel your clothing
01:14:50.180 --> 01:14:52.560
off of you with a blade? Oh, yeah, she does.
01:14:52.819 --> 01:14:57.970
Oh, yeah? Sign me up. You won't be needing that
01:14:57.970 --> 01:15:02.409
anymore. Hey, she can get another one from...
01:15:02.409 --> 01:15:06.170
Yeah, from, you know, costume services. They
01:15:06.170 --> 01:15:08.869
say it earlier when she loses her shirt after
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sparring. Central issue or whatever the fuck.
01:15:13.670 --> 01:15:17.390
The costume department. Yes. But we already know
01:15:17.390 --> 01:15:20.510
that he's having major, major problems with how...
01:15:21.130 --> 01:15:23.390
attracted he is to her and how much he wants
01:15:23.390 --> 01:15:27.109
to get in her bed and he's probably like fuck
01:15:27.109 --> 01:15:29.569
shut it down shut it down i can't do this right
01:15:29.569 --> 01:15:35.149
now yeah it's too much yeah i was just having
01:15:35.149 --> 01:15:37.789
my like what if violet was one of the victorian
01:15:37.789 --> 01:15:40.229
characters and emma like what would she be doing
01:15:40.229 --> 01:15:45.329
obviously she's having probably much different
01:15:45.329 --> 01:15:48.140
imagery than just what i described but i just
01:15:48.140 --> 01:15:49.819
thought it was so funny and out of character
01:15:49.819 --> 01:15:53.439
for her to be like fanning herself with her handkerchief
01:15:53.439 --> 01:15:57.539
and then i have this i had to read this quote
01:15:57.539 --> 01:16:01.399
zayden rearson is now in the business of keeping
01:16:01.399 --> 01:16:06.920
his mortal enemy alive which drew's noticed you're
01:16:06.920 --> 01:16:14.279
not mortal enemies buddies underlined Drew is
01:16:14.279 --> 01:16:19.199
the worst romance book reader. Out of curiosity.
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I wouldn't say they're buddies. Are they mortal
01:16:21.659 --> 01:16:27.460
buddies? Or just buddies? I mean, there is some
01:16:27.460 --> 01:16:30.979
mortality at stake for their buddyhood. Why don't
01:16:30.979 --> 01:16:36.359
we say like mortal friends? Because buddy is
01:16:36.359 --> 01:16:40.159
funnier. No, I just mean in general. We say you're
01:16:40.159 --> 01:16:43.529
my mortal enemy. Yeah. Well, oh, there's got
01:16:43.529 --> 01:16:46.289
to be, like, ride or die. Does this mean that
01:16:46.289 --> 01:16:48.310
we're going to have Mortal Kombat at some point?
01:16:48.489 --> 01:16:55.869
Mm -hmm. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. Any other comments
01:16:55.869 --> 01:16:59.869
about the Apple or Mortal Buddyhood or swooning?
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I just want to say that I... as a teenager was
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a big fan of Draco Malfoy and of Tom Felton as
01:17:09.420 --> 01:17:13.579
Draco Malfoy. And there are a couple little scenes
01:17:13.579 --> 01:17:18.960
with him and an apple and, and let me tell you
01:17:18.960 --> 01:17:23.340
how much fucking like. baby teen horniness that
01:17:23.340 --> 01:17:26.420
gave me where I was like 13 and I'm like, I don't
01:17:26.420 --> 01:17:30.779
know what to do with myself because I'm so attracted
01:17:30.779 --> 01:17:33.840
to this man biting an apple. This boy biting
01:17:33.840 --> 01:17:36.359
an apple. Are you talking about when he's repairing
01:17:36.359 --> 01:17:39.960
the transporting cabinet or whatever it's called?
01:17:40.420 --> 01:17:43.380
No. When he's like tossing it up and stuff? Is
01:17:43.380 --> 01:17:46.100
that like, am I picturing the right scene? Oh.
01:17:46.140 --> 01:17:50.159
I believe it's four. Yeah. And then he like aggressively
01:17:50.159 --> 01:17:53.880
bites into it. as he walks away. Yes. There's
01:17:53.880 --> 01:17:58.880
a little gif of that that I watched constantly.
01:18:00.760 --> 01:18:04.819
But see, I can't... Oh! It's from Hagrid's First
01:18:04.819 --> 01:18:09.539
Class. Well, yes. Hagrid's First Class is him
01:18:09.539 --> 01:18:14.369
biting that one. That would be three. I'm looking.
01:18:14.649 --> 01:18:18.449
There's one. I googled Draco Malfoy apple, and
01:18:18.449 --> 01:18:22.029
the only images from the movie series that have
01:18:22.029 --> 01:18:24.850
him holding an apple are from that scene. Could
01:18:24.850 --> 01:18:26.930
have sworn there was another one. I thought there
01:18:26.930 --> 01:18:29.310
was another one where he tosses it and catches
01:18:29.310 --> 01:18:32.729
it. That's in book six when he repairs the vanishing
01:18:32.729 --> 01:18:36.710
cabinet, and he puts the apple in the thing,
01:18:36.729 --> 01:18:38.510
and it comes back with a bite taken out of it.
01:18:39.760 --> 01:18:41.800
Well, there's another one. That's not what I'm
01:18:41.800 --> 01:18:44.020
thinking of. I'm thinking of him holding it,
01:18:44.060 --> 01:18:45.819
tossing it in the air, and catching it one -handed.
01:18:46.359 --> 01:18:50.239
I could be hallucinating, if we're using an AI
01:18:50.239 --> 01:18:56.720
term, this memory. Oh my god! There's literally
01:18:56.720 --> 01:19:01.659
a fan ship. It's called Drapple. Yep, yep, yep.
01:19:03.760 --> 01:19:06.079
I will say the other Draco one that particularly
01:19:06.079 --> 01:19:09.039
got me, maybe, maybe I'm conflating the two because
01:19:09.039 --> 01:19:11.340
I'm the, I think the scene I'm thinking of in
01:19:11.340 --> 01:19:14.060
a Goblet of Fires when he's up in a tree and
01:19:14.060 --> 01:19:16.779
he like comes down, he was like, my fault. It
01:19:16.779 --> 01:19:20.659
takes you up last 10 minutes. Yeah. Yeah. So
01:19:20.659 --> 01:19:21.960
I think I'm conflating the two cause they're
01:19:21.960 --> 01:19:24.279
my two favorite, but I remember like, do you
01:19:24.279 --> 01:19:26.319
remember in the early days of Facebook when there
01:19:26.319 --> 01:19:28.520
would, we have tag groups now, but there used
01:19:28.520 --> 01:19:31.930
to be like. like Abby likes this and it would
01:19:31.930 --> 01:19:34.010
be something like really long and ridiculous
01:19:34.010 --> 01:19:39.029
oh yeah and uh I can't remember the exact wording
01:19:39.029 --> 01:19:42.590
of it but it was basically like I wish Draco's
01:19:42.590 --> 01:19:45.810
threw in my tree or some some bullshit like that
01:19:45.810 --> 01:19:52.010
it was just like uh if um Rachel shout out if
01:19:52.010 --> 01:19:54.189
Rachel's listening right now because I know she
01:19:54.189 --> 01:19:57.050
said that she's been listening um her and I went
01:19:57.050 --> 01:20:00.619
back and forth on If we had a Draco tree, would
01:20:00.619 --> 01:20:05.020
he grow naked on the tree? Would different body
01:20:05.020 --> 01:20:07.180
parts grow in different places? How would this
01:20:07.180 --> 01:20:13.380
work? That went somewhere very quickly. So we
01:20:13.380 --> 01:20:18.739
were very, yeah, we weren't okay. I would like
01:20:18.739 --> 01:20:22.520
to share, it is according to the shipping .fandom
01:20:22.520 --> 01:20:27.140
.com wiki for Drapple. that there are exactly
01:20:27.140 --> 01:20:30.819
two canonical movie scenes with Draco Malfoy
01:20:30.819 --> 01:20:33.680
and a green apple. The first is Prisoner of Azkaban
01:20:33.680 --> 01:20:36.060
at Hagrid's First Class, and the second is when
01:20:36.060 --> 01:20:38.979
he puts it into the Vanishing Cabinet. So I declare
01:20:38.979 --> 01:20:42.340
it correct. Yes. No, I wasn't denying those two.
01:20:42.439 --> 01:20:45.319
I just was imagining a third one because I was
01:20:45.319 --> 01:20:47.300
conflating it with my other favorite scene. And
01:20:47.300 --> 01:20:51.020
I was just making one up whole cloth. Maybe you're
01:20:51.020 --> 01:20:55.060
thinking of Twilight. Who knows, honestly. Oh,
01:20:55.079 --> 01:20:58.300
my God. Tom Felton has commented on this. Oh,
01:20:58.319 --> 01:21:01.539
my God. Yes. He's made TikToks where it's like,
01:21:01.579 --> 01:21:03.180
what kind of apple are you? And it pops up with
01:21:03.180 --> 01:21:08.439
Granny Smith. And he's like, yeah. As a guy,
01:21:08.760 --> 01:21:16.100
he's so great. I love him. I love Draco. all
01:21:16.100 --> 01:21:19.100
of my, before I knew fan fiction existed, whenever
01:21:19.100 --> 01:21:20.979
I imagined myself in the Harry Potter universe,
01:21:21.100 --> 01:21:23.960
I imagined myself, like, having to, like, make
01:21:23.960 --> 01:21:25.699
Drake go fall in love with me to either trick
01:21:25.699 --> 01:21:28.319
him or, like, make him be good. Yeah, this is
01:21:28.319 --> 01:21:32.500
embarrassing. Can I? Here's one from 2017. No
01:21:32.500 --> 01:21:34.340
way. Well, it's better than the Drapple ship.
01:21:34.439 --> 01:21:36.739
How is he supposed to be with an apple? That's
01:21:36.739 --> 01:21:40.680
Tom Felton. And then the one that really makes
01:21:40.680 --> 01:21:43.920
me happy here, Drary makes more sense than Drapple.
01:21:45.119 --> 01:21:48.619
Oh, 100%. I'm not getting it on with the fruit.
01:21:48.739 --> 01:21:51.239
That's a quote. I'm not getting it on with the
01:21:51.239 --> 01:21:57.100
fruit. But you do eat the fruit. Um, no. Draco
01:21:57.100 --> 01:22:00.180
is fully obsessed with Harry. And you can't change
01:22:00.180 --> 01:22:02.359
my mind. Oh, he's definitely obsessed with Harry.
01:22:02.539 --> 01:22:04.739
Oh, God. He doesn't know what to do with all
01:22:04.739 --> 01:22:07.739
those feelings. Oh, I definitely read many Drary
01:22:07.739 --> 01:22:10.159
stories. Same. That's one I definitely did. I
01:22:10.159 --> 01:22:12.279
feel like that's the top ship I've ever heard
01:22:12.279 --> 01:22:15.670
of. Yep. Okay, we're so off topic, but I have
01:22:15.670 --> 01:22:18.149
to tell you guys, since we're talking about Harry
01:22:18.149 --> 01:22:21.689
Potter and fan fiction, I read a fan fiction
01:22:21.689 --> 01:22:24.130
and I didn't finish it because I don't remember
01:22:24.130 --> 01:22:26.470
why. There's probably so much going on in my
01:22:26.470 --> 01:22:28.689
life and I think it was being updated as I was
01:22:28.689 --> 01:22:34.109
reading it. So anyways, the fan fiction was that
01:22:34.109 --> 01:22:39.659
Harry, post the Battle of Hogwarts, Something
01:22:39.659 --> 01:22:43.119
nasty happened with Ginny, and so the Weasleys
01:22:43.119 --> 01:22:46.279
hate him, and there's all this toxicity going
01:22:46.279 --> 01:22:51.560
on. And so he somehow ends up living in the Malfoy
01:22:51.560 --> 01:22:58.239
Manor, and he's with Lucius. And then Lucius
01:22:58.239 --> 01:23:05.140
gets Harry pregnant. Oh my gosh! Side plot work.
01:23:05.239 --> 01:23:08.079
Draco is in a throuple with Fred and George.
01:23:11.680 --> 01:23:16.439
It was the most ridiculous thing I've ever read.
01:23:18.140 --> 01:23:20.380
Editing Abby here, popping in to give some quick
01:23:20.380 --> 01:23:23.100
context. At this point, John shares his screen
01:23:23.100 --> 01:23:25.840
with the rest of us to show us a picture of Tom
01:23:25.840 --> 01:23:29.920
Felton. Oh no. Oh no. What is this? Yes, I saw
01:23:29.920 --> 01:23:34.939
that. He looks so unimpressed. Wait, who is that?
01:23:35.140 --> 01:23:36.600
Tom Felton, who played... Well, Tom Felton is
01:23:36.600 --> 01:23:39.319
a random fan who brought him an apple. Oh, it's
01:23:39.319 --> 01:23:42.180
a random person. Okay, I was like, I recognize
01:23:42.180 --> 01:23:47.260
him, but... Imagine how many pictures this man
01:23:47.260 --> 01:23:50.600
has taken with a green apple. Oh, so many. He's
01:23:50.600 --> 01:23:52.500
so unimpressed. Well, it's his fault for eating
01:23:52.500 --> 01:23:57.060
an apple hotly. Hey, I bet that was the sexual
01:23:57.060 --> 01:23:59.479
awakening for a lot of young girls. And boys.
01:23:59.819 --> 01:24:03.220
Not me, but okay. Okay, that's fine, but I'm
01:24:03.220 --> 01:24:04.819
sure that there are plenty. Not everyone, just
01:24:04.819 --> 01:24:10.939
a lot of them, okay? I love the fan art. Space
01:24:10.939 --> 01:24:13.859
in the apple. Space is in the apple. Yeah, I
01:24:13.859 --> 01:24:16.340
am having very mixed feelings about this fan
01:24:16.340 --> 01:24:19.180
art. I need you to know that there is very likely
01:24:19.180 --> 01:24:21.460
going to be a post going up on the Instagram
01:24:21.460 --> 01:24:24.699
sometime in the next few days of just a bunch
01:24:24.699 --> 01:24:30.119
of Draco apple pictures, just to be aware. Ugh.
01:24:30.859 --> 01:24:34.819
Are we talking real time, as in when we're recording
01:24:34.819 --> 01:24:37.380
this, or posting time, around the time this is
01:24:37.380 --> 01:24:39.279
posted? Oh, I'm talking real time. The audience
01:24:39.279 --> 01:24:40.899
will just have to figure shit out as they go.
01:24:42.159 --> 01:24:46.460
Like, what the fuck? Zero context. Just be like,
01:24:46.600 --> 01:24:50.880
this is a teaser. This is what happens when John
01:24:50.880 --> 01:24:56.520
Instagrams. Oh, dear. Oh, God. All the tact of
01:24:56.520 --> 01:24:59.199
a, like, 40 -year -old dad trying to figure out
01:24:59.199 --> 01:25:02.100
the app for the first time. Yeah, we can blame
01:25:02.100 --> 01:25:07.920
it on that. This is, yeah, anyway. I was about
01:25:07.920 --> 01:25:10.140
to use a horrible metaphor. Are we done with
01:25:10.140 --> 01:25:16.199
this section? Yes, sorry. Sorry. Are you ready
01:25:16.199 --> 01:25:23.840
to go to flight school? Yes. Okay. Oh, God. I
01:25:23.840 --> 01:25:27.560
thoroughly embarrassed myself. Now I'm looking
01:25:27.560 --> 01:25:30.689
at Drapal on Tumblr. That's what pods are for.
01:25:33.409 --> 01:25:37.029
Okay, I will need you to focus in a few minutes.
01:25:37.329 --> 01:25:42.970
Yes, sorry. Oh my god! No! Last thing, John.
01:25:43.229 --> 01:25:47.630
Last thing. Yeah, okay, I have to share this.
01:25:48.649 --> 01:25:53.510
Yep. How about this twist? Knowing how much Draco
01:25:53.510 --> 01:25:56.050
loves his apples, Harry decides to get his attention.
01:26:00.460 --> 01:26:09.899
Oh my gosh. Oh, I love it so much. I want to
01:26:09.899 --> 01:26:15.260
go read some Harry Potter fan fiction. Anyways.
01:26:16.239 --> 01:26:19.699
Editing Abby here. Unfortunately, due to so many
01:26:19.699 --> 01:26:23.340
tangents, chapter 17 is way too long. So we are
01:26:23.340 --> 01:26:25.699
going to pause here. This is going to be part
01:26:25.699 --> 01:26:28.140
one and we are going to get you part two of chapter
01:26:28.140 --> 01:26:41.710
17 next week. Until then, goodbye. Bye. Thank
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