ABOUT THIS EPISODE
In this chapter, Violet gets to experience the ultimate dragon roller coaster ride AND a dragon slide before learning she has bonded two - count them, TWO - freaking dragons. It's every main character's dream!
Join us as we analyze Tairn's explanation for choosing Vi, dissect the various reactions to Vi casually flying in with the best dragon, and compare splattered almost-bonded cadets to Rorschach tests.
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00:01:26 Content Warnings
00:02:10 Battle Brief
00:03:43 Scribe Quadrant
00:05:47 Scottish Gaelic Pronunciations/Meanings
00:20:21 Recap
Scottish Gaelic Translations in Fourth Wing Reddit thread by u/isolatedcolorYT
Gaelic phonetics Reddit thread (in Spanish)
Gaelic alphabet and orthography
Native speakers on Gaelic in Fourth Wing - @ceartguleabhar on TikTok
Native speakers on Gaelic in Fourth Wing - @kennyboyleofficial on TikTok
Coffee Break Gaelic episode 1.06: “Numbers 1-10”
Because Internet by Gretchen McCullough
Unspoken English Adjective rules from Matt Forsythe’s book, “The Elements of Eloquence”
Screenshot of original Tumblr post excerpting "The Elements of Eloquence"
Velopharyngeal Insufficiency (VPI)
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This podcast discusses a nonstop thrilling adventure
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fantasy series set in the brutal and competitive
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world of a military college for dragon riders,
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which includes potential spoilers for all published
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material. This episode includes elements regarding
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injury, death, grief, trauma, and explicit language.
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Listeners who may be sensitive to these elements,
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cross the parapet at your own risk and prepare
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to enter The Wing Readers. Welcome to The Wing
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Readers, where we deep dive into the Empyrean
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series, chapter by chapter, theorize and overanalyze.
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I'm Abby. I'm John. And today we are covering
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Fourth Wing Chapter 15. Here is your friendly
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reminder that we will be spoiling a whole bunch
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of stuff. So you have been warned. We're going
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to go into a very quick battle brief where we
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talk about personal and or podcast news. Just
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to give a little celebration here, we have surpassed
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300 downloads as of recording. We have published
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the first seven episodes. So that is very exciting.
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I just hope that the show continues to find folks
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who are equally obsessed with the series as we
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are. Absolutely. According to RSS, we also have
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11 rolling average listeners, which means that
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we have like 11 people. It can confirm have actively
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been listening to episodes as they've been coming
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out each week. So shout out to those 11 people.
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I bet we could name all of you. We also have
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19. followers on apple podcast so uh subscribers
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on apple which is very very cool um i want to
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i totally forgot to mention this when we were
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discussing what we would be talking about for
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battle brief um but shout out to my therapist
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lisa who is listening uh she i think At this
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point, last I talked to her, she's only listened
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to the first episode, but she said that we have
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a very nice dynamic and that she thinks I'm very
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cute. I think you're cute too, Abby. Thank you.
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I do too. Shout out to the listener who is in
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Portland, because yes, we do kind of get a little
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bit of a geographical breakdown, as we've discussed
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before, to the listener who is in Portland. I
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am actually very close. So if we ever wanted
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to do a pod meetup, Portland might be a place
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to do it. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. All right, so
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we are going to send it over to John, our resident
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scribe, to break down the epigraph of chapter
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15. As has been the theory, or the theory, as
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has been the theme for the last, I don't know,
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five epigraphs, this one is clearly trying to
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warn us about what we're going to go into for
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this chapter. And so we get from the book of
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Brennan, page 50, which is hilarious because
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he understands that they're going to be two months
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in when they read this advice. But he's already
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written 49 pages of advice before this. What
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else is there to... I mean, we discussed it.
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It's like classwork. It's gotta be, because he
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did not adequately prepare Violet for the gauntlet.
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No. So this was meant for Mira to get her through
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history. Maybe it's like, hey, you don't like
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this particular ingredient, and I want you to
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know it's in all of these things in the cafeteria.
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Like, there's gotta be an entire page dedicated
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to the best food in the cafeteria. I know you're
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gluten -free, Mira, so please stay away. Don't
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eat any of the pastries. The pancakes are not
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safe. And if your sister's around, watch her.
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So from the Book of Brennan, just because you
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survived threshing doesn't mean you'll survive
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the ride to the flight field. Being chosen isn't
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the only test, and if you can't hold your seat,
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then you'll fly straight into the ground. Mm
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-hmm, which is very relevant, as that seems to
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be what our heroine is doing. I was going to
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say, aren't we currently falling out of the sky?
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Yeah, I mean, the book ended last chapter. I
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don't know why we're still here. Yep, yep. Why
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isn't the book over? She fell. It's done. There's
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this really, really big excerpt at the back of
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the book. That describes the splat -shaped mark
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that she left in the ground. describes um her
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being commended to malik and her parents or her
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parents her mom ouch burning her things oh god
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okay cassie i know we have a lot coming in chapter
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16 but do we have any new pronunciations in this
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chapter yes we do Last chapter, we got Tarn's
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name. And this chapter, we finally get Andarna.
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Duh, I knew that. Okay, so. Andarna, or Andarnurram,
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as her full name is. Oh, that's beautiful. Yeah,
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I was gonna say, that isn't the worst. It's pretty
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close to how you would probably guess. The A
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kind of... Gets squished into the U. And we'll
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talk about the R's in a second. But it is made
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up of three words. An is the word for the. Or
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it's one of the words for the. Darna means like
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second. The da in there is the word for two with
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the little accent. And then Uram means honor.
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So Andarnuram is the second honor. She is the
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second to have the honor of bonding Violet. Yes.
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Or it is Violet's second honor of a second dragon.
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And I really like good old isolated color YT
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has a comment. As soon as Tarn introduced himself,
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I was like, oh, so Violet's probably going to
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wield lightning? Sweet. And then it made me laugh
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that poor Andarna is basically just being called
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the second one all the time. Aww. Yeah, it's
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my headcanon that the second honor is referring
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to Violet, as in, like... Like she's got multiple
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honors. I was going to say, I lean towards it's
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actually more to do with Andarna's role in history.
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The second coming of the Ereds. Right, she is
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supposed to be the second honoring of the Ereds.
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She's Jesus. And you thought there was no Jesus
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in this book. Just you wait, there might be two.
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Yeah, no, she might be the second honor to the
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Imperium, like to the Riot. Yes, I like that.
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I like that. What's the word? Interpretation.
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So I just had a couple comments about counting
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and R's. Go for it. Okay, let's see if I can
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get to 10. So one of the things about counting
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is there's the regular words for counting, like
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if you're talking about how many of something
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there is. So we've got... So that's one through
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ten. Very nice. But if you're counting, you add
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the word the at the beginning and you kind of,
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you do that, that lenition thing to the letter.
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So it'd be. a hoon, a ga, a tree, a hay, et cetera,
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et cetera. Okay. The first time I heard this
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from, it's the Coffee Break Gallic podcast episode
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about numbers. And the first time I was like,
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those are not the numbers I learned. And then
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she explained it. I was like, oh, okay. And we
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will link that episode in the show notes. And
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that is one of those examples where when you
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let night. The D in the word for two, da, it
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turns into ga with that kind of soft G sound.
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And then in other words, like in Gaelic, there's
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a DH in the middle that doesn't make a sound
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at all. Well, there you go. Very convenient.
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What's interesting about all of this to me is
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that the word for seven sounds incredibly similar
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to one of the Japanese words for seven. I was
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actually thinking that too. I can't remember
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those. It's very weird because Asian languages
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and European languages usually have very little
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crossover. Their origins are completely different.
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Seven is shichi, right? Yeah. And so it's very
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interesting to me that seven is so similar sounding
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in these very completely different languages.
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Yeah, the spelling is entirely different. Can
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you say seven again? It's like shock. S -E -A
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-C -H -D. What was the word after shock? O -C
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-H -D? One of them I thought sounded a little
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more she -y than sha -y. Shia? Six? I might have
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several wrong. It was off. And I mean, she is
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four in Japanese, right? Ichi, ni, san, shi,
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go, roku, shichi, hachi, kuju. That sounds right.
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I didn't remember all of those, but. They sound
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familiar. That's the literal, besides Spanish,
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that is the only number, the only numbers I know
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in a different language. I just remember that
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go is my favorite because I really like how the
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five looks in, I don't even remember which writing
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system it is, but. And see, this is my language
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understanding is so disparate across so many
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different places. I understand, I remember how
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certain words sound like she or she, she, but
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I can identify the. numerical numbers zero through
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nine in chinese because i play a lot of mahjong
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oh yeah but i can't say any of them yeah that
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makes sense um the other thing that i thought
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was interesting to note in andarna's name is
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the uh single versus double r it seems like based
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on my research today That it's very similar to
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how R's are pronounced in Spanish, where a single
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R is usually like a tapped R. Depending on your
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accent, I think it also can sound like an R -R.
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And a double R is more of that trilled sound.
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So the double R in Uram is more of that rolling
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R that English speakers often have a hard time
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with. I can do it, but it's hard for me. I used
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to be able to roll my R's when I was a kid, and
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then I got an expander, and after I got it out,
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I completely lost the ability to roll my R's.
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I've never been able to do it since then. I'm
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pretty sure. I try, and I'm like... I'm pretty
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sure there's a genetic component to the ability
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to do it. I don't know what speakers of these
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languages do when they can't make that sound.
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Or if they just figure out a different way, because
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babies and children are very creative and flexible
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about pronunciation. Yes, I know. My son, we
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just took him to Seattle Children's a couple
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of weeks ago to get his speech evaluated. And
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the specialized speech language pathologist there
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that specializes in velopharyngeal insufficiency,
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which is the soft palate, says that Noah has
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a complex case. She has like six total kids that.
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are as complex as him. So yes, he learned a very
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interesting way of speaking. I will also add
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to all of this, like as someone who has a decent
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understanding of conversational Spanish, I can
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only roll my R if I'm speaking in like a true
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Latin America version of Spanish, not like the
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Spain version of Spanish. So if I had to roll
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my R and I said Barcelona, Barcelona is easy
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to do. But Barcelona, I can't do. I can't do
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the TH from the R. Barcelona is... That's not
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a trilled R, that's a tapped R, so you wouldn't
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have to do it there anyway. Oh, whatever. Sagrada.
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Well, see, that's not a double R either. I will
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tell you that it's rolled in almost every pronunciation.
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Sagrada. There are a lot of times an R at the
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beginning of a word, maybe at the beginning of
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a syllable like you're saying, can be rolled.
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That's another thing that's true in both Spanish
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and Gaelic. In researching this, I ended up on
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a Reddit thread about Gaelic in the Gaelic subreddit,
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but in Spanish. So I was reading my second language
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about a third language on linguistic terms that
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I don't even entirely understand in my first
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language. It felt very meta. That has a lot of
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layers to it. I love how the most part our native
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language is the one that we understand the least
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about because it's just we don't have to learn
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the rules, really. We just like innately pick
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them up as little kids. And so, you know, for
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example, we know that it's like the big red ball
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and not the red big ball because of the way that
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we order our adjectives because that's just.
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right but no one can ever list the actual order
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like that one post that's like it's the size
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color ball not the color size ball yeah and so
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like yeah that post is hilarious to me because
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you're right none of us would ever be able to
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list that order if we were asked to but if we
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were given a set of descriptions we'd put it
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right in order without a problem yep i know exactly
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what post you're talking about i will do my best
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to try to find it to link it there are um just
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Brief aside on this note, there are other things
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like reduplication, which is... I think, if I'm
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remembering correctly, if you say something like
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fuzzy wuzzy, where you're like, or no, that's
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a different thing. Reduplication is when you
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repeat something, and I can't remember an example.
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Anyhow, my point is, there's a podcast called
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Lingthusiasm, which is two linguists who talk
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to each other about things. That sounds right
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up my alley. They bring up these kinds of things
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that you're like, oh yeah, that is how it works.
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I never realized there was a term for this. And
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one of the hosts, Gretchen McCullough, is the
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author of Because Internet, which is all about
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internet linguistics, and I love it, and I highly
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recommend it. Please write a note to include
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that in the notes as well, please. And also just
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for my personal consumption. Oh, yes. Not linguine
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-thusiasm. Also linguine -thusiasm. Okay. Back
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to R's. There's another word that I've mentioned
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on the podcast before. We were talking about
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the orange dragons that has two R's in it. That's
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kurran, and that's the word for carrot. I just
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thought I'd share it because it has the double
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R's again. And that's why the cat had to be named
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Broccoli, is because there was already a dragon
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named Carrot. Well, there's not, as it turns
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out, but the opportunity was there. I also found
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a couple TikToks by native speakers that go through
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pronunciations of the dragons, such as, you know,
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Tarn and Andarna, as we just went through. One
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of them is called... I hate that word. So there's
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this phrase in Scottish Gaelic, which means I'm
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like... okay, all right. It literally means right
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enough. So this, this, this TikToker's username,
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Kerstgulior, Lior is the word for book. And so
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it's a pun on Kerstgulior, but also like book.
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So it's basically like a, literally it's like
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just write book. And it's a pun on the word for
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okay. I love that. I love hearing how puns work
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in other languages because I'm obsessed with
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them. And she notes that the accents on words
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like da for to or bas for baskayeth are really
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important because if you don't put the accent
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and you don't draw out that word, it could be
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a different word entirely. So like bas without
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the drawing out of the A. It means palm of your
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hand. And palm of your hand, Wayne College, is
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not as scary. That's fair. There's another TikToker
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that goes through more of the dragon names, pretty
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much all for the whole book. His name is Kenny
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Boyle. We've definitely thrown this one between
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us in our personal chats before. So we can link
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those as well. You'll note that they have some
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variation between how they each say things. And
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that's because of accents. And that is. All of
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my notes. That's as much as I could draw out
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in Darna's notes. Well, it's going to be a busy
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chapter next go around, so. Yes, yes. There are
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several. Okay. All right. John, I think we are
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ready for chapter 15. If you'd like to take us
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away. Okay. Whisk us back into this world. Chapter
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15 will be quick, she says. We'll get through
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both chapters no problem, she says. Well, I didn't
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know that Cassie had so much to say about Indarna.
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My bad. As we were just remarking, we left off
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with our girl Violet dropping at a rapid velocity
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through air she had not intended to fly through.
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Our girl... is panicked as she realizes she's
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going to die. She got on a dragon for one time,
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and that was all she could manage. Just as Taryn
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catches her in his claws and jerks her body up
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into an upright position. I touched on this in
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our last chapter, but he makes so many accommodations
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for Violet, and I have several notes about it
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through this chapter, but I'm wondering... Especially
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because all the other dragons seem to make a
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big fuss about it when they land. I'm like, it
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doesn't seem like any of the other dragons are
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accommodating at all. So I'm wondering why Tern
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and why Violet. And I can't remember if I actually
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wrote this down in my notes later or if I just
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assumed I would remember it now. I am remembering
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it now, but it might come back up again later.
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That we know about magic having a balance. I
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think it does get brought up in the book that
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maybe someone so powerful has to be so weak in
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other ways. And I'm wondering if... I'm just
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wondering how much about Violet is predetermined
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or predestined, especially because Andarna specifically
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hatched for her. I'm wondering if they have any
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sort of prophecy or something. It's just like...
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i'm just wondering if there isn't like a reason
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like that why he's being accommodating towards
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her then why is he being accommodating towards
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her well and like i love this because i saw this
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this is one of those instagram posts i kept for
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myself um saw this post on instagram and we'll
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get to the point where this actually becomes
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relevant later but it ends up being that violet
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is one of the few beings on the continent capable
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of standing up to the second largest dragon,
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basically the second largest creature on the
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continent, and telling him to shut the fuck up
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and stop doing what he's doing. Like, the power
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that Violet is given here because of the respect
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that Taryn shows her is immense. And so it's
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very, very, it's a huge thing here. What about
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this very small, very petite, very non -threatening
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in many regards girl? It's so capable of bringing
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the most powerful creature on the continent to
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heel. Our girl's got power. Speaking of power,
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I love the smart -ass remarks that we get from
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Taryn this entire chapter. Yes. Like, you're
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making us look bad. Stop it. Just like as if
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she has a choice over the matter at this particular
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moment. You're leaking. Stop it. And I love simple
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flight is hardly acrobatics. Yeah. As if anything
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about his flight is actually simple. Yeah. And
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of course, Violet has the realization that she
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is currently being carried through the air by
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one of the deadliest dragons in Navarre. the
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one that swore he would never bond again. Again,
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Violet, what about Violet, brings the second
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largest dragon out of hiding and into bonding,
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even though he knows it's probably going to kill
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him. Like, yo. Taryn decides to help Violet find
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her seat again in a way that I think was actually
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quite accommodating. Why not just throw her up
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in the air and then slam her ass into the seat?
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And I do, this is my second note about accommodations.
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Honestly, his accommodations lead to new and
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innovative flying and fighting techniques, showing
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that making room for everyone is good, not just
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for them as an individual, but for society as
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a whole. Right. Think about how fast Taryn and
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Violet have gotten at getting off the ground.
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The one thing that we know they need to be able
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to do on a moment's notice. They've gotten so
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good at doing it because of that. And also, Violet
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gets a lot more comfortable with the concept
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of being thrown into the air to have her ass
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land in the seat. She's the flyer on the cheer
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squad. Oh my god, it is totally it. How did I
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not make that connection? Oh my lord. She's truly
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the flyer. Oh, I love it. He's just doing a basket
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toss. Right. Taryn makes a comment that she needs
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to get in her seat and hang on or no one will
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believe that he has chosen her because of, of
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course, the expectations that dragons have for
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their riders prior to this moment. And he comments,
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what, didn't you practice? Your leg muscles be
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weak as shit. She's like, yes, of course I did.
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But yeah, like what kind of, I would like to,
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I'm back to the whole saddle practice thing of
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like, How exactly are they practicing to see
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if your leg muscles are strong enough? Do they
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like grab onto the thing and then they just turn
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it upside down and shake it to see if you fall
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off? Again, it's the bull riding thing. We're
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talking about it being a mechanical bull. Yeah.
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I love this. Was everyone's dragon a curmudgeon
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or just mine? Literally from the first minutes,
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Violet calls him a curmudgeon. Like that is a
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theme that will never go away. He is such a curmudgeon
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and I love him for it. She pushes back that she's
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not as strong as others and that she's just the
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weak, that she is what she is, to which Taryn
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snaps back here. I know exactly who and what
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you are. Violet Sorengale. Uh -huh. Oh, I love
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that line. I will share that, especially in the
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graphic audio version. That line gets hyped up.
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A ton. And I think it's because they knew everyone
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just adored that line. I really like how she's
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talking out loud and he's like, there's no need
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to shout. I can hear you. Just fine. I can imagine
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if this were to be a movie instead of a TV show.
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That line being said in the theater and like
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everybody just erupting into applause. Absolutely.
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Or I'm just imagining the. last twilight movie
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when they got into the big fight sequence and
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like the looks on everyone's faces midnight release
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i was there i was like what the fuck is going
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on and um the laughter of relief when you flash
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back to alice spoilers Yeah. Spoilers for Breaking
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Dawn Part 2, that it was all Alice's vision and
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none of that actually happened. Everyone was
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panicking. No, everyone was. And then, like,
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we get to Alice. You got laughter. I swear to
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God, my entire movie theater gasped. They went,
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oh, and, like, you heard the oh roll through
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the room. No, we were like, oh, thank God. I
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was just listening to a podcast where I can't
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even remember which one it was. They were talking
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about. How one of them really liked Twilight
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and they were like making their partner watch
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Breaking Dawn with them or something. And how
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they cry every time. And their partner was like,
00:26:02.119 --> 00:26:05.279
I thought you said this was fake. And she's like,
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yeah, but it's still sad. Carlisle's death. Every
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time. And this is also so funny because one of
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my favorite podcasts to Scary Didn't Watch, which
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is a horror movie. horror movie recap podcast
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they have covered all of the twilight movies
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as kind of like we know this isn't horror but
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we want to do it and um i literally last night
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just finished listening to Breaking Dawn Part
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1 and Breaking Dawn Part 2. So this is so funny
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that this is coming up in conversation. I promise
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everybody we will get back to the actual media
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that we're here to talk about. One last comment
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on Breaking Dawn. Synchronicity is fun. I also
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love the joke that happened around the time that
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that movie came out because obviously in the
00:26:48.539 --> 00:26:50.299
week after, everyone started talking about the
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one scene that no one expected. And the joke
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became they had to put a fight in there so that
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the boyfriends weren't disappointed. And if you
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think about it, they really did. do a marvel
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cinematic universe big fight scene at the end
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yeah yeah i mostly think that they just put it
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in there because Otherwise, it would be kind
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of boring and anticlimactic, which in the book
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it is a little bit. Did you not know, I just
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about said Rebecca Yaros, what's her name? Stephanie
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Meyer. Stephanie Meyer. Stephanie Meyer insisted
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that it had to be part of the movie because when
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she went out on the book tour for the last book,
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everyone kept asking her about the Arrow Alice
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back and forth and what was seen and what was
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done and how can it cause such a pivotal change
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and what could Alice have shown him? And she
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tried to prompt them and prompt them to like...
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guessed that it was a big fight scene and basically
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no I'm not complaining at all because yes it's
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insinuated in the books but it just it reads
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very anticlimactic because you don't get to see
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it as the reader so I do really enjoy that they
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put it in there for the climax or else it would
00:27:51.369 --> 00:27:54.529
have probably still been yeah anticlimactic yeah
00:27:54.529 --> 00:27:57.230
and so a large part of it anyway Stephanie Meyer
00:27:57.230 --> 00:27:59.329
has gone public to say that she wanted the fight
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to be in there because she wanted to be able
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to give everybody this little glimpse of what
00:28:02.809 --> 00:28:05.940
Alice had shown him And so that was her finally
00:28:05.940 --> 00:28:09.440
answering a question from the fans. Much like
00:28:09.440 --> 00:28:13.220
many of the questions we've raised. Okay. Back
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to the book at hand. Violet's legs shake as she
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tries to hold on to Taryn up until magic steps
00:28:19.619 --> 00:28:22.099
in and we find out that dragons can actually
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magically bond their riders to their back. Like,
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yo. Game changer. It is a huge game changer.
00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:35.779
And notably, it won't be something that he'll
00:28:35.779 --> 00:28:37.799
have to continue doing in the future, which they
00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:40.140
comment on, like, it's distracting to dragons.
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And I could totally buy the whole, Terran is
00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:46.779
so powerful, even a minor distraction to him
00:28:46.779 --> 00:28:50.500
is negligible. But part of me wonders if that
00:28:50.500 --> 00:28:53.500
really was the case, or if it was such a drain
00:28:53.500 --> 00:28:55.819
on him that he knew they had to find a different
00:28:55.819 --> 00:28:58.140
solution. So that's why he supported Zayden in
00:28:58.140 --> 00:29:02.630
doing the saddle, right? Yeah. We can talk about
00:29:02.630 --> 00:29:06.009
that another day. Yeah. Yeah. Let's examine that
00:29:06.009 --> 00:29:07.789
once it becomes relevant again. Right, let's
00:29:07.789 --> 00:29:09.289
wait until the saddle actually makes the page.
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Yep, yep. She feels guilty about this. Right,
00:29:13.769 --> 00:29:16.049
she feels guilty that he has to hang on, which
00:29:16.049 --> 00:29:17.930
is horrible, because feeling guilty that people
00:29:17.930 --> 00:29:19.670
are accommodating for you is not something you
00:29:19.670 --> 00:29:22.049
should do, but the world makes you. Yes, even
00:29:22.049 --> 00:29:25.309
though I live that every day of my life. Right.
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But, ugh, yeah. And Violet remarks that she never
00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:31.799
thought she'd make it this far. And I love Taryn.
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I didn't think I would either. So, hey. Friends!
00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:39.059
And do we think that he didn't think he would
00:29:39.059 --> 00:29:42.000
make it that far because losing Naolin almost
00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:46.380
killed him? Yes. Yes. Or he just thought he'd
00:29:46.380 --> 00:29:49.380
never, like, trust to bond humans again. Like...
00:29:49.380 --> 00:29:51.980
Oh, that too. There are so many ways that maybe
00:29:51.980 --> 00:29:55.559
he didn't think he'd get as far. To where he
00:29:55.559 --> 00:29:58.859
is. Yeah. I could see that. I do have, like,
00:29:58.920 --> 00:30:01.200
in my head, because he's just about 100 years
00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:03.259
old, and we know that that's middle age for dragons,
00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:06.880
which implies that 200 is not unreasonable. And
00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:12.319
no human lives for 100 years, let alone a driver.
00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:15.859
And speaking statistically, the life expectancy
00:30:15.859 --> 00:30:20.779
of a bonded rider is probably 30. Yeah. Maybe
00:30:20.779 --> 00:30:24.849
40. I'd say that's fair. So, like... At best,
00:30:24.910 --> 00:30:27.410
Taron is giving himself another 20 years to live.
00:30:27.569 --> 00:30:32.829
Well, they're 20 when they bond. So, yeah. Life
00:30:32.829 --> 00:30:37.170
expectancy can't be 20. It's probably like 25.
00:30:37.609 --> 00:30:41.210
Well, John said 30, 40. 30, 40, which is 20 years
00:30:41.210 --> 00:30:44.730
more. I heard him. Okay, okay. It's like, wow.
00:30:45.109 --> 00:30:48.930
You're like 20. Well, I mean, a lot of them do
00:30:48.930 --> 00:30:52.109
die. But do we think enough do to drive the average
00:30:52.109 --> 00:30:56.980
down? Okay, are riders dying as soon as they're
00:30:56.980 --> 00:31:00.339
bonded, or how babies and children born before
00:31:00.339 --> 00:31:03.180
five drag down the life expectancy in the middle
00:31:03.180 --> 00:31:07.700
ages? People used to die at 30. No, no, no, no.
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:10.200
People lived well into old age. Cassie, really
00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:13.740
quick, you said babies and children born before
00:31:13.740 --> 00:31:18.500
age five. Who die before five. And I was like,
00:31:18.579 --> 00:31:20.359
wait a second, I'm trying to do the calculus
00:31:20.359 --> 00:31:24.430
thing. All babies are born before age one. Yes,
00:31:24.430 --> 00:31:26.910
Cass, you're right that back in the ye olden
00:31:26.910 --> 00:31:29.130
days when child life expectancy was horrible,
00:31:29.470 --> 00:31:32.089
dying children made it look like the average
00:31:32.089 --> 00:31:34.410
human lived for 30 years when in reality... Yes,
00:31:34.410 --> 00:31:35.970
because people don't understand what average
00:31:35.970 --> 00:31:41.309
life expectancy means. Yes. So that's why I specifically
00:31:41.309 --> 00:31:43.670
said bonded riders is because we guarantee that
00:31:43.670 --> 00:31:45.349
they make it at least through the first 20 years.
00:31:46.059 --> 00:31:47.680
Well, right, right, right. I was just saying
00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:49.980
that if we're counting the ones who die immediately,
00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:54.019
that's going to drag that average down a bit.
00:31:54.220 --> 00:31:57.240
I was mostly going off of the idea that very
00:31:57.240 --> 00:32:01.680
few writers retire. Yeah. And so back to what
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:06.279
I was doing here. Violet takes a moment to pull
00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:09.460
herself into the seat and acknowledge all of
00:32:09.460 --> 00:32:12.039
the dragons that are beneath her flying on the
00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:15.829
valley. threshing and bonding and realizing that
00:32:15.829 --> 00:32:18.650
she could be like the rest of them as she watches
00:32:18.650 --> 00:32:21.769
a rider fall from a red sword tail. And that
00:32:21.769 --> 00:32:26.069
rider does go splat. Yep. Poor guy. There's no
00:32:26.069 --> 00:32:27.829
other way to describe it. As soon as a rider
00:32:27.829 --> 00:32:29.990
falls off their dragon, I am going to describe
00:32:29.990 --> 00:32:35.130
them as splat marks and that's it. Inkblots were
00:32:35.130 --> 00:32:38.910
scribes here. Inkblots. I do like inkblots. Rorschach
00:32:38.910 --> 00:32:43.940
tests. I wonder what kind of Rorschach test I
00:32:43.940 --> 00:32:47.500
would make if I fell from a dragon. Do you see
00:32:47.500 --> 00:32:51.440
a desecrated body or do you see... Butterflies.
00:32:52.940 --> 00:32:55.980
Butterfly, yeah. Dragon spreading its wings.
00:32:56.299 --> 00:32:59.720
Right. And then Taryn informs Violet they're
00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:02.559
going to have to put on a show. Like, clearly,
00:33:02.579 --> 00:33:05.420
he has to convince all of the other dragons that
00:33:05.420 --> 00:33:08.559
he really did this, he's really here, and he's
00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:11.039
not going anywhere. This was legit. And she's
00:33:11.039 --> 00:33:14.279
worth the trouble. Right? And I love that it
00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:18.960
basically turns into a literal air show, like,
00:33:19.019 --> 00:33:23.779
trick pilot jet plane, like, shooting themselves
00:33:23.779 --> 00:33:25.619
up into weird positions and then doing weird
00:33:25.619 --> 00:33:28.579
flips and... I wrote dragon rollercoaster. So
00:33:28.579 --> 00:33:32.150
did I. Sign me up. Yeah, she's... We get to the
00:33:32.150 --> 00:33:34.410
point where they're talking about like the most
00:33:34.410 --> 00:33:36.809
horrifying yet exhilarating moment of her life.
00:33:36.890 --> 00:33:39.390
And then he twists and then her body is like,
00:33:39.390 --> 00:33:42.890
but she's grinning the whole time. And I was
00:33:42.890 --> 00:33:45.430
like, I also love roller coasters. Bye. Me too.
00:33:45.670 --> 00:33:48.269
If I love roller coasters, if anybody listening
00:33:48.269 --> 00:33:50.910
has been to Bush Gardens in Williamsburg, my
00:33:50.910 --> 00:33:54.210
all time favorite amusement park and the Griffin
00:33:54.210 --> 00:33:57.890
is my all time favorite roller coaster. And,
00:33:57.890 --> 00:34:02.859
uh. uh the mythical griffin and just that oh
00:34:02.859 --> 00:34:05.599
yes and so i was just imagining being back on
00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:08.159
that roller coaster i miss it dearly see and
00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:10.639
i am sitting here thinking i would have a better
00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:13.199
time riding a dragon than a roller coaster because
00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:14.900
the thing i hate the most about roller coasters
00:34:14.900 --> 00:34:18.760
is how like clangy and jangly and jerky they
00:34:18.760 --> 00:34:22.119
are on the tracks yeah versus you're on a dragon
00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:24.559
there's no tracks these all be fluid movements
00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:28.000
and shifting throughs and there's a A lot of
00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:30.099
weight and counterweight. That has to be the
00:34:30.099 --> 00:34:33.880
most relaxing roller coaster of your life. So
00:34:33.880 --> 00:34:35.820
long as you can hang on. With the fear of falling
00:34:35.820 --> 00:34:39.719
to the ground below and dying. Yeah. Obviously,
00:34:39.780 --> 00:34:41.960
there is nothing like this, as our girl Violet
00:34:41.960 --> 00:34:46.079
points out. Eventually, Terran decides that they've
00:34:46.079 --> 00:34:48.360
made their point. And I have to just imagine
00:34:48.360 --> 00:34:51.780
how much airspace he was taking up that the dragon,
00:34:51.880 --> 00:34:54.440
like, I imagine that other dragons were fearful
00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:57.219
of launching out of the valley because he was
00:34:57.219 --> 00:34:59.559
doing everything that he was doing. He's taking
00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:04.320
up that much airspace. Make some room. Back it
00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:08.599
up. Violet remarks that the sun is setting, and
00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:11.239
even if she hadn't been selected by Taryn, she
00:35:11.239 --> 00:35:13.260
might have still had the chance to go for next
00:35:13.260 --> 00:35:15.300
year, given everything that happened. I'm like,
00:35:15.340 --> 00:35:16.900
girl, if Taryn hadn't shown up, he'd be dead.
00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:20.380
Like, we know it. Although, maybe not. Do you
00:35:20.380 --> 00:35:22.960
think Andarna would have killed the other writers?
00:35:23.420 --> 00:35:24.739
Just, like, bitten their head off? I don't think
00:35:24.739 --> 00:35:27.699
she can... I don't know, maybe. But I think she's
00:35:27.699 --> 00:35:30.969
talking about Andarna not bonding, and... Living
00:35:30.969 --> 00:35:34.610
to decide next year. Oh, golden dragon up ahead.
00:35:34.769 --> 00:35:36.289
See, this is what I get for skimming instead
00:35:36.289 --> 00:35:41.909
of reading. You're right. She thinks, okay, poor
00:35:41.909 --> 00:35:44.090
little golden dragon. At least it has next year.
00:35:44.110 --> 00:35:48.530
Maybe it'll be bigger by then. And we get to
00:35:48.530 --> 00:35:50.349
what will be one of the biggest conversations
00:35:50.349 --> 00:35:55.289
of this chapter. Why did Taryn choose her? Yep.
00:35:55.409 --> 00:35:58.070
And we get our first deflection, which is because
00:35:58.070 --> 00:36:01.969
you saved her, you defended Andarna. To which
00:36:01.969 --> 00:36:04.949
I'm like, was Andarna really ever in danger?
00:36:05.730 --> 00:36:08.610
It's not about whether the danger was real. It's
00:36:08.610 --> 00:36:11.530
about whether Violet's response to danger was
00:36:11.530 --> 00:36:15.909
real. Okay. In my opinion. Yeah, it's about Violet's
00:36:15.909 --> 00:36:21.510
character, not whether there was actually a problem.
00:36:22.300 --> 00:36:24.780
yeah and even if andarna couldn't have defended
00:36:24.780 --> 00:36:26.880
herself or would have flown off mama scale was
00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:29.440
right there she had her back nothing was going
00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:32.219
to happen to that baby well and then like you
00:36:32.219 --> 00:36:34.300
add to the point that like even if andarna wasn't
00:36:34.300 --> 00:36:37.460
in danger violet definitely was so there is the
00:36:37.460 --> 00:36:39.699
fact of even if andarna's danger wasn't real
00:36:39.699 --> 00:36:43.599
violet still put herself even if it was a needless
00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:47.880
risk yeah she put herself in danger she risked
00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:51.610
her own danger to save a dragon And that shows
00:36:51.610 --> 00:36:55.570
something. Moral fiber. Yes. I do enjoy moral
00:36:55.570 --> 00:36:59.190
fiber, as Dumbledore would put it. It helps keep
00:36:59.190 --> 00:37:08.760
you regular. Violet snaps back with, I'm not
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:12.079
strong. I'm not cunning. I'm not ferocious. That's
00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:14.880
what dragons value. And I love this whole, I
00:37:14.880 --> 00:37:17.820
love the sarcasm from Taryn. Please tell me what
00:37:17.820 --> 00:37:21.159
I'm allowed to think. I love that. Do tell me
00:37:21.159 --> 00:37:27.159
more about what I value. Already talking back
00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:29.739
to a dragon, Violet. I know. That takes some
00:37:29.739 --> 00:37:33.860
ferocity. Right? Let's go. Also, like, stop...
00:37:33.860 --> 00:37:36.739
I mean, it's fine to want to know why he chose
00:37:36.739 --> 00:37:39.019
you, but, like, stop questioning his judgment.
00:37:39.139 --> 00:37:43.119
Stop arguing with him. Right? Stop second -guessing
00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:45.260
his choice, or else he'll start second -guessing
00:37:45.260 --> 00:37:48.800
his choice. And then you will become an inkblot.
00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:54.119
Okay. I love every now and then you guys get
00:37:54.119 --> 00:38:01.860
that high -pitched burst out of me. As they come
00:38:01.860 --> 00:38:05.199
into the valley, Violet is awed by the spectacle
00:38:05.199 --> 00:38:08.340
of all of the dragons, not only throughout the
00:38:08.340 --> 00:38:10.880
valley, but also spattering the mountainside,
00:38:10.900 --> 00:38:14.719
watching and enjoying the act that is threshing
00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:19.599
and bonding. We get a comment that they are divided
00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:21.519
by those that are still in the quadrant, but
00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:23.739
chosen years past and those that were chosen
00:38:23.739 --> 00:38:29.590
today inside the valley. And that 70 other bonds
00:38:29.590 --> 00:38:31.929
had entered the field at the time that Taryn
00:38:31.929 --> 00:38:35.369
and Violet did. Yes, which is approximately a
00:38:35.369 --> 00:38:40.230
75 % dragon success rate. About a 75 % dragon
00:38:40.230 --> 00:38:44.510
success rate. 70, 75%. As they come into their
00:38:44.510 --> 00:38:47.409
landing, Taryn finally comes up. up with the
00:38:47.409 --> 00:38:49.230
conclusion that he can give Violet, knowing that
00:38:49.230 --> 00:38:52.570
she will not stop asking why she was chosen,
00:38:52.650 --> 00:38:54.389
and it's going to be a relevant conversation,
00:38:54.670 --> 00:38:56.789
not only to herself, but to the others around
00:38:56.789 --> 00:39:00.570
her. Because she keeps thinking self -deprecating
00:39:00.570 --> 00:39:03.989
thoughts at him. Yeah, and he wants that shit
00:39:03.989 --> 00:39:07.929
to stop. And so he says that she is the smartest
00:39:07.929 --> 00:39:10.530
of her here, the most cunning, and defended the
00:39:10.530 --> 00:39:13.750
smallest with ferocity, with a strength of courage
00:39:13.750 --> 00:39:15.630
more powerful than a strength of physical...
00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:18.780
attributes since she apparently needs to know
00:39:18.780 --> 00:39:21.440
before they land i'm like oh he throws all of
00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:24.960
her words back at her strength courage ferocity
00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:29.940
all of it like yep yep and just to analyze this
00:39:29.940 --> 00:39:34.960
a little bit he points out her intelligence that
00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:37.780
she is the smartest um echoing what kaori told
00:39:37.780 --> 00:39:40.699
her that she is the i wrote cunningest but i
00:39:40.699 --> 00:39:43.460
know it is most cunning she's the cunningest
00:39:43.460 --> 00:39:46.389
which which is what The blacks are. They are
00:39:46.389 --> 00:39:49.110
the most cunning. So that lines up with Tern.
00:39:49.550 --> 00:39:51.949
And then, yes, throwing back her words in her
00:39:51.949 --> 00:39:54.769
face that dragons value strength, cunning, and
00:39:54.769 --> 00:39:57.110
ferocity. He says, you defended the smallest
00:39:57.110 --> 00:39:59.690
with ferocity, and your strength is in your courage,
00:39:59.829 --> 00:40:03.989
not in your physical strength. So just beautiful
00:40:03.989 --> 00:40:07.889
parallels there. Not to mention that within about
00:40:07.889 --> 00:40:09.889
a year or so, she'll be capable of launching
00:40:09.889 --> 00:40:14.269
electricity with her fingers. Yes. Yes. And if
00:40:14.269 --> 00:40:17.130
we're thinking about like the reasons that Tarn
00:40:17.130 --> 00:40:19.250
would want to bond someone and like what his
00:40:19.250 --> 00:40:22.969
goals and motivations are, all of these things
00:40:22.969 --> 00:40:25.070
show that Violet is promising as a defendant
00:40:25.070 --> 00:40:29.090
of the weak and like civilians and et cetera
00:40:29.090 --> 00:40:31.630
in the fight against the Venon, which we know
00:40:31.630 --> 00:40:33.590
that she is not going to leave civilians on the
00:40:33.590 --> 00:40:36.110
other side of the border. Right. She's yeah.
00:40:36.190 --> 00:40:38.969
She fights for what's right and uses her intelligence
00:40:38.969 --> 00:40:41.170
to do that. She doesn't just do what she's told.
00:40:43.240 --> 00:40:46.679
Or what's wise, even. She won't save her own
00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:50.860
skin. Yeah, she sees the odds and she says, I'm
00:40:50.860 --> 00:40:55.519
going to go up against those. Yep. Violet's stubborn,
00:40:55.659 --> 00:41:00.019
sorry, girl. Our girl. And then what I love about
00:41:00.019 --> 00:41:02.960
this is Violet has the first realization that
00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:05.500
Taryn is responding not to things that she's
00:41:05.500 --> 00:41:09.139
saying, but to things that she's thinking. He
00:41:09.139 --> 00:41:13.449
is literally in her brain. And he gives her what
00:41:13.449 --> 00:41:16.510
has to be the most threatening promise I have
00:41:16.510 --> 00:41:18.730
ever heard in my life. You will never be alone
00:41:18.730 --> 00:41:26.769
again. She's like, yikes. I wonder how long it
00:41:26.769 --> 00:41:29.789
takes other writers to figure out the mind thing.
00:41:30.070 --> 00:41:33.070
And if he's like... You figured it out before
00:41:33.070 --> 00:41:34.250
everyone else. I think he's being a smartass.
00:41:34.590 --> 00:41:36.469
No, I think he's being a smartass. I think that
00:41:36.469 --> 00:41:38.030
she's a little slow on the uptake for this one.
00:41:38.030 --> 00:41:40.150
It does feel slow because she's spending all
00:41:40.150 --> 00:41:42.489
this time hearing it in her mind, but then talking
00:41:42.489 --> 00:41:46.469
out loud. I'm like, Violet, Violet. Yeah. But
00:41:46.469 --> 00:41:48.070
I do want to know how long it takes other people
00:41:48.070 --> 00:41:53.230
to catch on. And was it last time that we talked
00:41:53.230 --> 00:41:56.769
about, or did we not do it on air, about whether
00:41:56.769 --> 00:42:00.159
or not we would want? to have a dragon's voice
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:02.239
in our head forever. I think we talked about
00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:04.320
it on air. Because I talked about Mama Sorengale
00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:06.219
giving birth with a dragon in her head and I
00:42:06.219 --> 00:42:08.960
talked about would you want a cheerleader in
00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:12.699
your head or would you want that snark? Because
00:42:12.699 --> 00:42:15.480
think about Zayden and Sagale and the bonus chapters
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:17.880
we've gotten with Zayden and Sagale. She is the
00:42:17.880 --> 00:42:20.599
snarkiest little bitch you have ever heard to
00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:23.340
him. Oh, you got to. They're on Rebecca's website.
00:42:23.659 --> 00:42:27.719
She's such a snark. It's so amazing. Well, Violet
00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:30.219
agrees with you and me, John, that never being
00:42:30.219 --> 00:42:32.320
alone ever again sounds more like a threat than
00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:35.420
a comfort. Than a promise. And I'm like, fuck
00:42:35.420 --> 00:42:37.900
yeah, let's do this. Bestie. Built -in bestie
00:42:37.900 --> 00:42:45.739
for life. Where am I at? Okay. As they land,
00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:49.079
the golden dragon reaches up to them. Of course,
00:42:49.079 --> 00:42:50.760
I'm going to keep going with Goldie for the moment
00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:55.760
here. And Violet remarks as they hit the ground,
00:42:55.900 --> 00:42:58.679
she can hang on just fine when they're not moving.
00:43:00.179 --> 00:43:04.659
Giving that snark right on back to him. Taryn
00:43:04.659 --> 00:43:07.260
snaps back with dismount before I choose a differently.
00:43:11.239 --> 00:43:14.679
And Violet has to face the reality. She is now
00:43:14.679 --> 00:43:18.679
landing into the box canyon with a busted ankle,
00:43:18.940 --> 00:43:23.900
bleeding arm. On the largest dragon with no real
00:43:23.900 --> 00:43:27.480
good way to get down. Hoping that there is some
00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:30.840
level of medical care ready for her once she
00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:34.000
does. And I'm like, does she not think that Nolan
00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:35.820
is there, though? She's like, I'm just hoping
00:43:35.820 --> 00:43:37.940
that they have, like, something. And I'm like,
00:43:38.019 --> 00:43:41.000
yeah, healers aren't allowed, but Nolan is a
00:43:41.000 --> 00:43:43.820
writer. I'm sure he is there helping the most
00:43:43.820 --> 00:43:46.809
dramatic of the injuries. Right. And so that
00:43:46.809 --> 00:43:48.909
clearly comes up later, but we'll get to that
00:43:48.909 --> 00:43:53.449
in a moment. And then, of course, as they begin
00:43:53.449 --> 00:43:56.670
the dismount process, Taryn extends his arm,
00:43:56.730 --> 00:44:00.250
or his leg, I guess I should say, and provides
00:44:00.250 --> 00:44:02.690
Violet with an easier way down. That's right.
00:44:02.690 --> 00:44:05.309
All I can think, yes, all I can think of is,
00:44:05.409 --> 00:44:10.989
it's a drag to slide. And I guarantee you. When
00:44:10.989 --> 00:44:13.909
she takes the invitation, and he's like. I guess
00:44:13.909 --> 00:44:17.690
so. Right? And I guarantee you, Riddick saw this
00:44:17.690 --> 00:44:19.869
and immediately turned to his dragon and went,
00:44:19.929 --> 00:44:25.969
please. Please, I'm begging you. And so this
00:44:25.969 --> 00:44:28.329
is where I'm like, I understand that dragons
00:44:28.329 --> 00:44:31.269
are very picky, but if I had a kid, I'd ask the
00:44:31.269 --> 00:44:33.550
dragon to let my kid slide down its leg once
00:44:33.550 --> 00:44:35.730
or twice just for the experience. Like, come
00:44:35.730 --> 00:44:42.989
on, give the kid some joy. Just saying. And we
00:44:42.989 --> 00:44:45.510
get this wonderful perspective from the dragons
00:44:45.510 --> 00:44:48.869
as all of them begin to make noises across the
00:44:48.869 --> 00:44:52.969
valley. And Violet's like, shit, are they muttering?
00:44:53.050 --> 00:44:55.570
I love that she's constantly hearing dragon noises
00:44:55.570 --> 00:44:58.550
and immediately calls it like, shit, that's muttering.
00:44:58.590 --> 00:45:00.889
Or later something else happens and she's like,
00:45:00.969 --> 00:45:03.309
did they just do this? And Taryn's like, yeah,
00:45:03.329 --> 00:45:06.869
yeah, they did. Yep, ignore it. Yep, just ignore
00:45:06.869 --> 00:45:08.809
it. Because of course it's Taryn and he can do
00:45:08.809 --> 00:45:14.079
whatever the fuck he wants. Just like his wifey.
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:17.500
And then I love that once Violet, yeah, as you
00:45:17.500 --> 00:45:19.940
said, but once Violet completes her slide down,
00:45:20.099 --> 00:45:22.539
he just remarks, that's one way to do it. To
00:45:22.539 --> 00:45:24.920
which all I can comment on, that's the only way
00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:26.639
to do it, my friend. Like, what did you expect,
00:45:26.780 --> 00:45:30.320
Ty? She's gonna turn around and crawl backwards.
00:45:35.579 --> 00:45:37.659
Violet has the wonderful realization that she's
00:45:37.659 --> 00:45:40.059
a rider before pivoting to the golden feather
00:45:40.059 --> 00:45:43.010
tail. And saying, I'm glad that you made it.
00:45:43.170 --> 00:45:45.230
Thrilled probably being the right word herself
00:45:45.230 --> 00:45:48.369
remarks. But says, you really should fly off
00:45:48.369 --> 00:45:51.289
next time someone warns you to fly off. Like,
00:45:51.289 --> 00:45:53.329
if you'd listened to me, we might not have had
00:45:53.329 --> 00:45:58.750
such an issue. And we get to meet Indarna. She
00:45:58.750 --> 00:46:02.829
blinks and then says, maybe I was saving you.
00:46:03.449 --> 00:46:06.789
Which I love is such a, like, dragons are these
00:46:06.789 --> 00:46:09.929
kings and queens of snark. Even from a young
00:46:09.929 --> 00:46:14.380
age. Yeah, I think I think that she might be
00:46:14.380 --> 00:46:16.559
being a bit of a smart. Like, I'm confused. Like,
00:46:16.639 --> 00:46:19.039
what could she literally mean here by maybe I
00:46:19.039 --> 00:46:20.940
was saving you? Giving her an opportunity to
00:46:20.940 --> 00:46:25.179
show off so that a dragon could see her. Well,
00:46:25.320 --> 00:46:29.000
she gave Violet an opportunity where she had
00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:33.820
to use all of her skills to their max or die.
00:46:34.300 --> 00:46:37.789
And that helped. Violet be able to see that she
00:46:37.789 --> 00:46:40.469
does have a lot of capabilities which she can
00:46:40.469 --> 00:46:45.250
now draw on going forward yeah I'm just thinking
00:46:45.250 --> 00:46:48.409
because we learn later that Andarna hatched literally
00:46:48.409 --> 00:46:51.949
for Violet and I so I'm fully bought on that
00:46:51.949 --> 00:46:54.750
Andarna's like she has a whole plan like she
00:46:54.750 --> 00:46:56.650
has a plan she's moving all the strings in the
00:46:56.650 --> 00:46:59.210
background like I hatched for Violet I'm bonding
00:46:59.210 --> 00:47:01.210
Violet and nothing is going to get in the way
00:47:01.210 --> 00:47:05.150
of that and she needs taryn's help because she's
00:47:05.150 --> 00:47:08.409
just a little a little wee babe and so she i
00:47:08.409 --> 00:47:10.090
feel like she's manipulating things behind the
00:47:10.090 --> 00:47:13.829
scenes but still i'm like how i don't know how
00:47:13.829 --> 00:47:16.070
much of it was like purposely maybe i'm thinking
00:47:16.070 --> 00:47:19.050
too literally about saving yep yeah i'm just
00:47:19.050 --> 00:47:20.329
wondering if maybe i'm thinking too literally
00:47:20.329 --> 00:47:24.289
about saving like her life maybe it's like no
00:47:24.289 --> 00:47:26.809
i'm i'm getting you on your right path maybe
00:47:26.809 --> 00:47:31.320
um But obviously, if she hadn't been there, Violet
00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:32.840
never would have been in the situation where
00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:35.460
her life was in danger in the first place. I
00:47:35.460 --> 00:47:39.539
do enjoy the idea of a bratty Andarna talking
00:47:39.539 --> 00:47:42.679
to Taryn and Sagail, putting her toe in the water
00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:44.840
when they're like, don't get in the water. And
00:47:44.840 --> 00:47:46.719
she's like, well, it's just my toe. It's just
00:47:46.719 --> 00:47:50.639
my toe. Well, you say that nothing would have
00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:52.460
happened to Violet if Andarna wasn't there. But
00:47:52.460 --> 00:47:54.739
if Andarna wasn't there, then the trio might
00:47:54.739 --> 00:47:57.639
have... set their sights on killing Violet when
00:47:57.639 --> 00:47:59.639
there were no consequences instead of trying
00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:02.019
to kill the dragon. That is also a fair point.
00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:05.539
I'm still curious why Jack Barlow was so convinced
00:48:05.539 --> 00:48:09.340
he needed to kill a baby dragon. Again, I think
00:48:09.340 --> 00:48:12.639
that he... I don't know how much he knows, but
00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:15.940
he knows enough. I think that he was trying to
00:48:15.940 --> 00:48:19.860
take it out before it could be a problem. Yeah,
00:48:19.900 --> 00:48:22.400
I could see that. He knows it's a baby. I agree
00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:24.980
with that. And or we talked about this last time,
00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:28.340
or he might suspect that it's an irid. Possibly.
00:48:29.300 --> 00:48:31.820
Knowing that feather tails don't bond in a poor
00:48:31.820 --> 00:48:35.619
violence. That's more about the irids than babies.
00:48:35.739 --> 00:48:38.940
So, yeah. So he knows something. And he is trying
00:48:38.940 --> 00:48:42.599
to eliminate this threat before it fully manifests.
00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:46.639
I agree. Violet, of course, is a little shocked
00:48:46.639 --> 00:48:48.659
at the fact that Andarna is talking to her and
00:48:48.659 --> 00:48:50.639
calls her out like, girl, don't get in trouble.
00:48:50.860 --> 00:48:53.989
You're not allowed to talk to me. And Andarna
00:48:53.989 --> 00:48:57.170
just stays silent. I love that. The smart ass
00:48:57.170 --> 00:48:58.829
of like, I've already snuck my way into this
00:48:58.829 --> 00:49:01.309
bond. There's no, nothing. It's just that content
00:49:01.309 --> 00:49:03.670
swishing tail. Nothing can be done to change
00:49:03.670 --> 00:49:06.869
it. Fix it if you, or object all you want. Also
00:49:06.869 --> 00:49:08.750
like, I'm not going to tell you that you are
00:49:08.750 --> 00:49:12.969
my writer until you have to. The drama. Yeah.
00:49:13.210 --> 00:49:16.590
She's like, I'm holding my cards. I will play
00:49:16.590 --> 00:49:21.559
them when the time is right. And we get our first
00:49:21.559 --> 00:49:23.920
reaction of what everyone is going to think about
00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:26.699
the whole situation here from some random cadet
00:49:26.699 --> 00:49:28.820
from Claw Section Fourth Wing next door who's
00:49:28.820 --> 00:49:31.840
just like, shit, is that the dragon that none
00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:37.860
of us swore we'd ever see? Yeah, yeah, it is.
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:41.900
We can call him Helen. Yeah, it's Helen. It's
00:49:41.900 --> 00:49:46.519
Helen. All characters that are unknown and we
00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:49.699
never see again. Hi, Helen. And Helen returns,
00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:55.139
but she's a boy now, and she's from... She's
00:49:55.139 --> 00:49:58.500
no longer in the Healer Squadron. She's a male
00:49:58.500 --> 00:50:02.019
writer who has been here this whole time. Didn't
00:50:02.019 --> 00:50:04.630
you know? As Violet makes her way over to the
00:50:04.630 --> 00:50:06.969
dais where people record the names of their dragons
00:50:06.969 --> 00:50:10.570
to prove that they have officially bonded, she
00:50:10.570 --> 00:50:13.610
begins to remark on the reactions playing out
00:50:13.610 --> 00:50:17.110
across the dais. Of course, there's her mother
00:50:17.110 --> 00:50:20.730
beady -eyeing the fucking black dragon, but what
00:50:20.730 --> 00:50:23.369
really draws Violet's attention away from her
00:50:23.369 --> 00:50:26.409
mother is the only general who outranks her mother.
00:50:27.070 --> 00:50:31.090
melgren who is like death glaring at taryn at
00:50:31.090 --> 00:50:36.449
this particular moment this man is very confounded
00:50:36.449 --> 00:50:41.710
okay i'm going to jump in with my melgren interpretation
00:50:41.710 --> 00:50:44.329
here and then i will continue with my interpretations
00:50:44.329 --> 00:50:47.849
as we get to them yeah so melgren he is looking
00:50:47.849 --> 00:50:52.130
with cold calculation at taryn and glancing at
00:50:52.130 --> 00:50:57.260
violet so to me I'm wondering if he has not seen
00:50:57.260 --> 00:51:02.400
Tern in battles. Oh. Because he is like, let
00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:05.179
me try to put pieces together. We know that she
00:51:05.179 --> 00:51:09.280
only fights with marked ones. Yep. So he's like,
00:51:09.360 --> 00:51:12.059
okay. You know, so he's, I feel like at this
00:51:12.059 --> 00:51:14.039
point is scrambling because he never saw Tern
00:51:14.039 --> 00:51:18.260
coming. He has not seen Tern in a battle. I agree
00:51:18.260 --> 00:51:21.300
with that. Yeah. So he's trying to decipher right
00:51:21.300 --> 00:51:25.880
now if maybe she doesn't make it. she dies before
00:51:25.880 --> 00:51:28.360
that ever becomes relevant or if she's going
00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:31.980
to cozy up to the marked ones. I don't think
00:51:31.980 --> 00:51:34.420
he quite sees the marks one connection yet because
00:51:34.420 --> 00:51:37.280
it's Violet Sorengale. Like, I think he's banking
00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:40.179
so much on her last name that keeping her from
00:51:40.179 --> 00:51:42.460
the marked ones at this moment. And so that's
00:51:42.460 --> 00:51:44.420
why he's so confused because he can't come up
00:51:44.420 --> 00:51:46.780
with a reasonable explanation, right? It might
00:51:46.780 --> 00:51:49.000
not even have to be her cozying up to, but if
00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:52.030
she's fighting them, they're still at. the battle
00:51:52.030 --> 00:51:56.570
and therefore he couldn't see it right like there's
00:51:56.570 --> 00:51:58.489
there's a way that she could be involved and
00:51:58.489 --> 00:52:01.750
he might not like the absence of being able to
00:52:01.750 --> 00:52:04.730
see them could tell him that she's involved somehow
00:52:04.730 --> 00:52:06.750
with the other people he can't see but that doesn't
00:52:06.750 --> 00:52:11.550
necessarily mean allyship sure um But I also
00:52:11.550 --> 00:52:13.369
think that in his head, though, it is a very
00:52:13.369 --> 00:52:15.130
real possibility that she's going to die before
00:52:15.130 --> 00:52:17.710
any of it's ever relevant. I mean, he downplays
00:52:17.710 --> 00:52:21.250
the hell out of her later on. Yeah, I could see
00:52:21.250 --> 00:52:23.530
that not wanting to completely say it in front
00:52:23.530 --> 00:52:26.969
of the mother of that person. Not to be the bearer
00:52:26.969 --> 00:52:29.750
of bad news, but I never see you in my visions.
00:52:31.989 --> 00:52:34.690
Which is like when it comes from a prophet, that
00:52:34.690 --> 00:52:37.730
actually is kind of a death sentence, as we discussed
00:52:37.730 --> 00:52:44.980
in other series, Abby. Yes. No comment. I just
00:52:44.980 --> 00:52:47.900
wanted, from this whole process about the role
00:52:47.900 --> 00:52:50.780
-keeping thing, I know we've been confused about
00:52:50.780 --> 00:52:52.559
this before when we were talking about, like,
00:52:52.639 --> 00:52:54.360
oh, what if the dragons, like, change their names
00:52:54.360 --> 00:52:57.039
and stuff? But it does seem, like, the scribes
00:52:57.039 --> 00:53:00.119
do have the official list of names. They and
00:53:00.119 --> 00:53:04.449
the rider are the only ones who have it. So we'll
00:53:04.449 --> 00:53:06.869
get to it next chapter, but I have a lot of thoughts.
00:53:06.969 --> 00:53:08.409
I was going to say, how do the names get onto
00:53:08.409 --> 00:53:11.349
the list? Like, how do the people in the writer's
00:53:11.349 --> 00:53:13.170
quadrant even know what the names are supposed
00:53:13.170 --> 00:53:14.750
to be before they get down? Because the dragons
00:53:14.750 --> 00:53:17.949
tell them. And so I could totally be like, this
00:53:17.949 --> 00:53:20.949
is the humans trying to impose some sort of control
00:53:20.949 --> 00:53:23.630
over knowledge that they have on the dragons.
00:53:23.710 --> 00:53:25.750
And the dragons are laughing their asses off
00:53:25.750 --> 00:53:27.889
in the background because they've been biasing
00:53:27.889 --> 00:53:31.179
the information from the start. I have notes
00:53:31.179 --> 00:53:35.599
about it next chapter. Okay. Because the only
00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:37.719
thing that I'll say right now is, is Rebecca
00:53:37.719 --> 00:53:40.719
Yarrow's has in an interview said, who says they're
00:53:40.719 --> 00:53:44.360
telling the truth at this specifically at role.
00:53:44.500 --> 00:53:47.420
Okay. Yeah. So that is, we'll get there. Yeah.
00:53:48.239 --> 00:53:50.860
We'll get there. I'm going to go ahead and skip
00:53:50.860 --> 00:53:53.099
past Mama Sorengill. Like obviously she's rising.
00:53:53.139 --> 00:53:54.679
She's staring. I'm going to skip past her for
00:53:54.679 --> 00:53:56.679
a second here. She comes last for me too. So
00:53:56.679 --> 00:53:59.199
that works out perfectly. I have comments about
00:53:59.199 --> 00:54:02.199
her. We'll get to it. We'll get to it. Hold it
00:54:02.199 --> 00:54:06.900
for one paragraph, Cassie. One paragraph. I'm
00:54:06.900 --> 00:54:09.159
going to request you hold it for two. So we get
00:54:09.159 --> 00:54:11.539
Kaori. Oh, yeah, we have Pancheck. I forgot Pancheck.
00:54:12.199 --> 00:54:14.940
We have Kaori, who literally is, like, throwing
00:54:14.940 --> 00:54:18.119
himself off the platform to get closer and is,
00:54:18.219 --> 00:54:22.280
like, I can't remember what the right word is.
00:54:22.380 --> 00:54:26.420
But what is it when a guy, like, does the whole
00:54:26.420 --> 00:54:28.400
up and down stair thing? What's the word for
00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:33.500
it when they? the what there's like a sweeps
00:54:33.500 --> 00:54:36.079
yeah but there's like a word that women use to
00:54:36.079 --> 00:54:39.539
put that context into a i don't want to say derogatory
00:54:39.539 --> 00:54:41.960
but like there's a phrasing that kind of takes
00:54:41.960 --> 00:54:44.579
eyes you up and down yeah something like that
00:54:44.579 --> 00:54:47.139
what the hell yeah i know what you're talking
00:54:47.139 --> 00:54:51.599
about but he like for lack of better phrase once
00:54:51.599 --> 00:54:54.440
over No, but it's like molesting you with your
00:54:54.440 --> 00:54:57.960
eyes or something like that. Oh, like undressing
00:54:57.960 --> 00:54:59.199
you with your eyes? Undressing you with your
00:54:59.199 --> 00:55:02.239
eyes, yeah. It's basically like Taryn is being
00:55:02.239 --> 00:55:05.280
undressed by Kaori here, which is just hilarious
00:55:05.280 --> 00:55:09.579
to me. Yep, and my note here is just memorizing
00:55:09.579 --> 00:55:11.820
him for his updated projection and for scholarly
00:55:11.820 --> 00:55:16.119
interest. Just for scholarly interest. And then
00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:19.239
we get Comma .Panchak, who's just like, there's
00:55:19.239 --> 00:55:24.320
no fucking way. Yep. Yep. And my note for him,
00:55:24.340 --> 00:55:27.960
so he's obviously in disbelief. So we know from
00:55:27.960 --> 00:55:30.119
the end of Onyx Storm that Pancheck is either
00:55:30.119 --> 00:55:33.119
a Venon or a Venon informant. It's not quite
00:55:33.119 --> 00:55:35.719
clear, but I'm leaning towards informant because
00:55:35.719 --> 00:55:38.019
he doesn't seem like he has the extra power that
00:55:38.019 --> 00:55:40.239
the Venons have. And we know that he is leaking
00:55:40.239 --> 00:55:44.420
info the entire time. Like a sieve. The Venon
00:55:44.420 --> 00:55:46.579
are immediately going to know about Taryn and
00:55:46.579 --> 00:55:50.119
Andarna. Right. So information is now public
00:55:50.119 --> 00:55:52.780
to everyone on the continent, not just. Yes.
00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:57.940
Exactly. So the I mean, the main question comes
00:55:57.940 --> 00:56:00.679
down to what is in it for Pancheck to be this
00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:03.780
informant. And I think it's just simple. Simply
00:56:03.780 --> 00:56:06.059
that he wants the power. We know that he's after
00:56:06.059 --> 00:56:08.440
Mama Sorengel's job and then after that Melgren's
00:56:08.440 --> 00:56:11.280
job. So I'm assuming that he came to an agreement
00:56:11.280 --> 00:56:13.699
with the Venon that they will somehow get those
00:56:13.699 --> 00:56:16.099
two out of the way so that he can rise to power.
00:56:16.239 --> 00:56:17.659
That's the only thing that really makes sense
00:56:17.659 --> 00:56:20.480
to me for why he would do this. They're paying
00:56:20.480 --> 00:56:23.599
him under the table. And that mystery money we
00:56:23.599 --> 00:56:28.400
never - He's hiring assassins. Yeah. And just
00:56:28.400 --> 00:56:32.820
an interesting note here. Commandant, I always
00:56:32.820 --> 00:56:34.579
say Commandant in my head. Commandant Pancheck
00:56:34.579 --> 00:56:38.059
has an unknown signet. According to the Empyrean
00:56:38.059 --> 00:56:40.820
Wiki, we do not know what his signet is, which
00:56:40.820 --> 00:56:42.480
I just found fascinating and wanted to point
00:56:42.480 --> 00:56:46.179
that out. Holy shit. Mm -hmm. I was shocked too.
00:56:46.219 --> 00:56:48.239
I was like, surely we must know. And I'm just
00:56:48.239 --> 00:56:52.420
not remembering. Wow. That's going to be a...
00:56:52.420 --> 00:56:55.619
Now, oh my God, that's one of those fucking secrets
00:56:55.619 --> 00:56:59.019
that she's been hiding. Okay. So, and the funny
00:56:59.019 --> 00:57:01.639
thing is, it could be... I don't think it is,
00:57:01.659 --> 00:57:03.500
but it could be something like so simple, like,
00:57:03.579 --> 00:57:06.039
oh, he just has fire that it's just so it's so
00:57:06.039 --> 00:57:08.480
normal that it's not even like worth it to remark
00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:11.940
on. I doubt it, but it could be. Or on the other
00:57:11.940 --> 00:57:14.000
hand, it could be a top secret signet, which
00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:17.920
is even more concerning. Could be how he's giving
00:57:17.920 --> 00:57:21.199
the information to the Veden, for example. Oh,
00:57:21.500 --> 00:57:25.909
that's a thought. And then we finally make it
00:57:25.909 --> 00:57:27.769
to the one reaction all of us are here to comment
00:57:27.769 --> 00:57:30.789
on. Mama Soaring Gale, who cuts everyone off
00:57:30.789 --> 00:57:33.050
and says, don't fucking say the name until she
00:57:33.050 --> 00:57:36.989
does. Which, okay. Everybody have their reaction,
00:57:37.070 --> 00:57:38.469
and then I'm going to throw mine out here, and
00:57:38.469 --> 00:57:42.289
we'll see how this goes. I'll go last, because
00:57:42.289 --> 00:57:45.090
I've been jumping in a lot. So John Cassie, then
00:57:45.090 --> 00:57:49.710
me. Okay, so this particular one here, I am absolutely
00:57:49.710 --> 00:57:53.710
convinced that Mama Soaring Gale is doing everything
00:57:53.710 --> 00:57:57.269
in her power to make it so that no one can accuse
00:57:57.269 --> 00:58:00.570
her daughter of any sort of malfeasance to try
00:58:00.570 --> 00:58:03.250
to get her out of the bond. Like, if someone
00:58:03.250 --> 00:58:06.789
accidentally shared the name, then General Melgrin
00:58:06.789 --> 00:58:08.010
could be like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:58:08.389 --> 00:58:10.590
She didn't actually know the name. You said it.
00:58:10.610 --> 00:58:14.610
You gave it to her. And so I think a lot of this
00:58:14.610 --> 00:58:16.769
here is like, it looks like Mama Sorengale is
00:58:16.769 --> 00:58:19.599
being the most distant bitch ever. I think Mama
00:58:19.599 --> 00:58:22.280
Sorengale is doing everything in her power to
00:58:22.280 --> 00:58:26.139
stop nepotism from ever being mentioned. I like
00:58:26.139 --> 00:58:27.619
that. That's that interpretation. Yeah, that's
00:58:27.619 --> 00:58:29.420
exactly what I thought, too. Like Violet's all
00:58:29.420 --> 00:58:31.420
like, she doesn't believe in me. And it's like,
00:58:31.460 --> 00:58:34.119
no, she she believes in you, but she knows everyone
00:58:34.119 --> 00:58:36.559
else doesn't. So she's making sure that everything
00:58:36.559 --> 00:58:39.820
goes by the book right now so that no one can
00:58:39.820 --> 00:58:42.980
accuse you of like lucking your way into this
00:58:42.980 --> 00:58:45.019
or it being a mistake or any of those things.
00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:48.579
This I wrote that this ritual is the proof to
00:58:48.579 --> 00:58:52.820
discount the naysayers. Yes. OK. And I have a
00:58:52.820 --> 00:58:54.929
slightly different take. So I love that. I have
00:58:54.929 --> 00:58:56.409
a slightly different take that I think could
00:58:56.409 --> 00:59:00.230
work in accordance with mine. So Cassie, as you
00:59:00.230 --> 00:59:03.030
touched on, Violet takes this reaction from Mama
00:59:03.030 --> 00:59:06.530
Sorengale as not being sure that Taryn is even
00:59:06.530 --> 00:59:09.869
hers, that she is doubting Violet, doesn't think
00:59:09.869 --> 00:59:11.789
Violet is good enough, and not even checking
00:59:11.789 --> 00:59:15.349
to see if Violet is okay. So first of all...
00:59:16.909 --> 00:59:19.090
I don't think that she's looking at Violet to
00:59:19.090 --> 00:59:21.789
see if she's okay, because obviously she's standing.
00:59:21.849 --> 00:59:24.550
She's here. She has survived any other injury.
00:59:24.610 --> 00:59:27.829
That's like just secondary to the fact that she
00:59:27.829 --> 00:59:30.130
is alive. Like we'll get, we'll get her fixed
00:59:30.130 --> 00:59:32.190
up. And made it to a dragon. And made it to a
00:59:32.190 --> 00:59:34.510
dragon. Yeah. I think that she clocked Violet
00:59:34.510 --> 00:59:38.010
right away was like, she's standing. Cool. Like,
00:59:38.070 --> 00:59:40.030
I don't need to worry about her right now. So
00:59:40.030 --> 00:59:42.710
I think that her being like, she doesn't even
00:59:42.710 --> 00:59:45.559
care if I'm okay. It's like. She knows that you're
00:59:45.559 --> 00:59:47.440
fucking fine, Violet. Like, don't worry. She's
00:59:47.440 --> 00:59:49.079
seen you through injury before. Like the fact
00:59:49.079 --> 00:59:51.400
that you're alive is all she needs to know. It's
00:59:51.400 --> 00:59:54.719
just a limb. She's seen worse. Yes, she's seen
00:59:54.719 --> 00:59:58.519
worse. And or. OK, so sorry. This is my note
00:59:58.519 --> 01:00:00.800
that I believe that she probably clocked Violet
01:00:00.800 --> 01:00:03.739
the second that Violet landed. And or she's having,
01:00:03.840 --> 01:00:06.800
I'm sure, giving her updates at least to be like.
01:00:07.130 --> 01:00:08.710
Yes, Violet's alive. Yes, Violet's alive. Yes,
01:00:08.730 --> 01:00:12.829
Violet's alive. So I think that she is not concerned
01:00:12.829 --> 01:00:15.230
about Violet right now because she doesn't need
01:00:15.230 --> 01:00:17.289
to be. The mental emergency radio. Because she
01:00:17.289 --> 01:00:20.190
convinced her dragon to go be a nosy spy for
01:00:20.190 --> 01:00:23.210
her. So do you think that Mama Sorengale knows
01:00:23.210 --> 01:00:27.269
about the whole Zayden thing? Which... Do you
01:00:27.269 --> 01:00:29.969
think Amster would have reported that? About
01:00:29.969 --> 01:00:36.980
his quote -unquote intervention? I don't... think
01:00:36.980 --> 01:00:40.519
so i think this is probably like i'm sure tell
01:00:40.519 --> 01:00:42.699
me when violet gets here kind of thing you know
01:00:42.699 --> 01:00:45.559
what i mean so it's like i don't know if if he
01:00:45.559 --> 01:00:47.860
had eyes on her the whole time or if it was just
01:00:47.860 --> 01:00:52.219
monitoring as they landed and like yeah yeah
01:00:52.219 --> 01:00:55.019
i could buy that because she doesn't she doesn't
01:00:55.019 --> 01:00:57.900
want other people to think that she is giving
01:00:57.900 --> 01:01:01.099
special attention to violet that's another Kind
01:01:01.099 --> 01:01:03.699
of going along with that nepotism comment. And
01:01:03.699 --> 01:01:06.360
theoretically, Ameser would be in her mind and
01:01:06.360 --> 01:01:08.380
would agree with, if he didn't agree, he would
01:01:08.380 --> 01:01:11.380
have corrected her at some point. Yes. Yeah.
01:01:11.980 --> 01:01:15.679
So in addition to being like, Viola, it's fucking
01:01:15.679 --> 01:01:18.780
fine. We don't need to worry about it. I took
01:01:18.780 --> 01:01:22.019
her comment of don't say it, not until she does.
01:01:22.719 --> 01:01:24.699
And again, I really like your guys' interpretation.
01:01:24.880 --> 01:01:27.159
I think that it could be either or, or these
01:01:27.159 --> 01:01:31.039
could blend together. I think that she is fucking
01:01:31.039 --> 01:01:35.920
terrified. I think that she is in disbelief because
01:01:35.920 --> 01:01:40.260
she may or may not know about the mated bond
01:01:40.260 --> 01:01:44.360
with scale. But regardless, she does know that
01:01:44.360 --> 01:01:46.840
Taryn is such a powerful dragon that Violet will
01:01:46.840 --> 01:01:49.880
be on the front lines. She is going to learn
01:01:49.880 --> 01:01:51.940
about everything. She is going to be in direct
01:01:51.940 --> 01:01:54.340
danger. She knows her daughter is not going to
01:01:54.340 --> 01:01:56.460
look the other way. And she is going to do the
01:01:56.460 --> 01:01:58.000
right thing, which is the whole issue with the
01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:03.489
scratch quadrant. So I think that she is just
01:02:03.489 --> 01:02:05.849
panicking of like, oh, fuck, what does this mean
01:02:05.849 --> 01:02:09.449
for Violet's life? She also may be thinking that
01:02:09.449 --> 01:02:11.730
Taryn was one of the last beings to see Brennan
01:02:11.730 --> 01:02:15.710
alive. Oh. And so she just might be having an
01:02:15.710 --> 01:02:19.750
emotional war. And has she seen Taryn since that
01:02:19.750 --> 01:02:24.949
happened? And she just might be, I think she's
01:02:24.949 --> 01:02:30.659
in emotional turmoil. And so she's like. Fuck!
01:02:30.659 --> 01:02:36.019
So, that's my thought there. Those are... I enjoy
01:02:36.019 --> 01:02:39.739
that. I would go so much further as to maybe
01:02:39.739 --> 01:02:42.219
add this, because remember, Dane tried to talk
01:02:42.219 --> 01:02:45.139
Violet into a brown and aims her as a brown.
01:02:45.739 --> 01:02:49.260
So, what if that was actually Mama Sorengale?
01:02:50.039 --> 01:02:53.280
What if she... I could see that. What if she
01:02:53.280 --> 01:02:55.260
somehow got a hold of Dane and she was like,
01:02:55.320 --> 01:02:56.920
you know, Violet would look good on a brown.
01:02:58.320 --> 01:03:00.860
just planting seeds yeah i don't really see her
01:03:00.860 --> 01:03:04.099
being that indirect about it i don't know or
01:03:04.099 --> 01:03:07.159
micromanaging i i do because again she's not
01:03:07.159 --> 01:03:09.619
giving any indication like she purposely told
01:03:09.619 --> 01:03:12.159
her daughter i will not talk to you again for
01:03:12.159 --> 01:03:17.400
the next three years yeah i yeah as as we talked
01:03:17.400 --> 01:03:20.280
about when we were talking about how dane was
01:03:20.280 --> 01:03:22.159
like you should bond to brown yeah the only thing
01:03:22.159 --> 01:03:24.460
that makes sense to me is that he feels like
01:03:24.460 --> 01:03:27.800
for whatever reason whether from his own brain
01:03:27.800 --> 01:03:30.599
or from a seed planted by Mama Sorengale, that
01:03:30.599 --> 01:03:33.199
a brown would be the safest bet because it would
01:03:33.199 --> 01:03:36.559
be a closer relation to her mom's dragon. Well,
01:03:36.659 --> 01:03:39.219
and they are known for their like their intelligence
01:03:39.219 --> 01:03:42.360
and their. Well, no. Remember, we talked about
01:03:42.360 --> 01:03:44.579
it. We literally don't know like anything about
01:03:44.579 --> 01:03:46.820
browns. You're right. You're absolutely right.
01:03:46.980 --> 01:03:50.920
Pull it up again. Yeah, I don't have my notes
01:03:50.920 --> 01:03:52.880
from that chapter with me, but it's like we literally
01:03:52.880 --> 01:03:55.280
only get that you shouldn't show trepidation
01:03:55.280 --> 01:03:59.739
to a brown. This is true. And so I, if that's
01:03:59.739 --> 01:04:02.179
the case, I kind of like the headcanon that somehow
01:04:02.179 --> 01:04:06.780
Dane got like, the thought was planted in his
01:04:06.780 --> 01:04:09.599
brain and he rolled with it without knowing that
01:04:09.599 --> 01:04:11.699
that was what was supposed to happen to begin
01:04:11.699 --> 01:04:14.219
with. I also like the idea that she's staring
01:04:14.219 --> 01:04:17.300
at Taryn and going, fuck, my daughter is writing
01:04:17.300 --> 01:04:23.909
that. Yep. Yep. Okay. I want to call out, now
01:04:23.909 --> 01:04:25.269
that we've gotten through all of the different
01:04:25.269 --> 01:04:27.590
reactions, including Violet's reaction to all
01:04:27.590 --> 01:04:32.550
the other people, is like I'd be able to hijack
01:04:32.550 --> 01:04:35.889
Tear. I wonder if that's going to become relevant
01:04:35.889 --> 01:04:41.389
in another book. Hijacking dragons? Maybe it's
01:04:41.389 --> 01:04:43.150
even going to become relevant in the next chapter,
01:04:43.230 --> 01:04:49.230
according to my notes. Oh, damn. Damn. I had
01:04:49.230 --> 01:04:54.679
a... sort of a side tangent question which is
01:04:54.679 --> 01:04:58.880
about this relationship between violet and lilith
01:04:58.880 --> 01:05:02.139
and like the what we think might be going on
01:05:02.139 --> 01:05:04.159
in lilith's head versus what violet's perceiving
01:05:04.159 --> 01:05:10.320
and i was just wondering like if violet is pregnant
01:05:10.320 --> 01:05:13.380
or if she becomes so later on how do we think
01:05:13.380 --> 01:05:17.239
her dynamic with her child is going to be like
01:05:17.239 --> 01:05:20.280
do we think she's also going to be like kind
01:05:20.280 --> 01:05:22.400
of do we think she's going to be more upfront
01:05:22.400 --> 01:05:24.360
about everything and very affectionate or is
01:05:24.360 --> 01:05:26.159
she also going to have to hold everything in
01:05:26.159 --> 01:05:28.780
and like this sort of emotional self -defense
01:05:28.780 --> 01:05:31.599
that's an excellent question and i think that
01:05:31.599 --> 01:05:33.780
we should save it yeah that's that's going to
01:05:33.780 --> 01:05:35.760
be a big old because i would like to think on
01:05:35.760 --> 01:05:40.059
it b because um That is so far off from where
01:05:40.059 --> 01:05:42.639
we are right now, Cassie. Well, and it gets colored
01:05:42.639 --> 01:05:45.599
by Zayden's relationship with his parents and
01:05:45.599 --> 01:05:48.639
so many other things. And her future interactions
01:05:48.639 --> 01:05:51.019
with her mother, too. Well, and with Zayden's
01:05:51.019 --> 01:05:54.199
mother. Something to think about, then. Yes,
01:05:54.219 --> 01:05:56.400
something to keep in our brains. And then once
01:05:56.400 --> 01:05:59.039
we get to, is she pregnant? We can have that
01:05:59.039 --> 01:06:03.380
conversation. Good question, though. Oh, I'm
01:06:03.380 --> 01:06:05.079
excited. I'm excited to think about that. Yo,
01:06:05.179 --> 01:06:08.480
we're so close, and we're so close, so let's
01:06:08.480 --> 01:06:10.980
get through it here. Let's go, let's go! What
01:06:10.980 --> 01:06:13.320
I love about this is, seeing her mother's reaction,
01:06:13.559 --> 01:06:16.860
processing through all of it, her final conclusion
01:06:16.860 --> 01:06:20.960
becomes, fuck her. Like, how much of Violet getting
01:06:20.960 --> 01:06:25.869
through this quadrant is spite? spite but also
01:06:25.869 --> 01:06:28.030
yeah i was just thinking like the reason for
01:06:28.030 --> 01:06:31.030
my question is just like the the huge disparity
01:06:31.030 --> 01:06:34.690
between these like angsty teenager feelings that
01:06:34.690 --> 01:06:37.750
violet's having versus all of these very real
01:06:37.750 --> 01:06:41.309
concerns that her mother has to like juggle and
01:06:41.309 --> 01:06:44.269
how that's like such a normal mother -daughter
01:06:44.269 --> 01:06:50.210
thing in real life too It so is. Even the first
01:06:50.210 --> 01:06:52.309
few times reading this, I wasn't even really
01:06:52.309 --> 01:06:54.769
giving Lilith's motives a second thought. But
01:06:54.769 --> 01:06:58.130
now that I've thought more about how really the
01:06:58.130 --> 01:06:59.610
only thing she cares about is protecting her
01:06:59.610 --> 01:07:02.760
children and all of this stuff. Just like, Violet,
01:07:02.760 --> 01:07:03.679
you don't get it. It reads in a totally different
01:07:03.679 --> 01:07:07.539
way. You'll get it one day when you're a mother.
01:07:08.059 --> 01:07:10.079
And it's really funny when you think about the
01:07:10.079 --> 01:07:12.900
fact that her son is basically about Violet's
01:07:12.900 --> 01:07:14.539
age right now. As far as I've figured out, her
01:07:14.539 --> 01:07:17.900
son is somewhere in the high school to college
01:07:17.900 --> 01:07:21.139
range, in there somewhere. Rebecca's son. Okay,
01:07:21.139 --> 01:07:22.800
I was confused for a second. No, yeah, Rebecca
01:07:22.800 --> 01:07:25.519
Yarrow's son. I was like, Brennan's older. And
01:07:25.519 --> 01:07:27.860
so it's hilarious that she's writing all of this
01:07:27.860 --> 01:07:30.280
angst in because you know she's been staring
01:07:30.280 --> 01:07:34.010
at her kid. kid for years just like what is it
01:07:34.010 --> 01:07:39.769
gonna take and yep yep so shout out to rebecca
01:07:39.769 --> 01:07:41.809
yaros thank you for writing your parenting process
01:07:41.809 --> 01:07:47.429
into the book it's powered by the spice she now
01:07:47.429 --> 01:07:50.190
feels violet makes it to the roll call table
01:07:50.190 --> 01:07:53.730
hands over her name Hands over Taryn's name,
01:07:53.869 --> 01:07:56.130
to which we get a Cassie remark. Pronunciation
01:07:56.130 --> 01:07:59.409
could use some work. Yep. I just wrote, that's
01:07:59.409 --> 01:08:03.769
why we have Cassie. And Violet, at least, is
01:08:03.769 --> 01:08:06.630
picking up on what kind of relationship she's
01:08:06.630 --> 01:08:08.409
going to have with her dragons. Obviously, it's
01:08:08.409 --> 01:08:10.750
going to be smartass. And so she comes back with,
01:08:10.789 --> 01:08:12.829
at least I remember, bitch. You said you'd have
01:08:12.829 --> 01:08:17.770
to remind me. That's the John comment. Yep. And
01:08:17.770 --> 01:08:20.050
we get... to that, at least I didn't let you
01:08:20.050 --> 01:08:21.829
fall to your death, which is going to be, like,
01:08:21.890 --> 01:08:25.130
the number of times Taryn uses that against Violet
01:08:25.130 --> 01:08:29.810
is hilarious to me. And then everything hits
01:08:29.810 --> 01:08:32.569
the fan. Because as she's about to walk away,
01:08:32.670 --> 01:08:35.729
Violet gets hit with a new message from her little
01:08:35.729 --> 01:08:39.850
golden dragon. Indarna's full name is Indarna
01:08:39.850 --> 01:08:42.010
Yoram. Indarna Yoram. I know I didn't say it
01:08:42.010 --> 01:08:46.449
right. I know I didn't say it right. Indarna,
01:08:46.590 --> 01:08:50.300
for short. Violet is exasperated because what
01:08:50.300 --> 01:08:53.979
the fuck did you just say? She's like, uh, no,
01:08:54.159 --> 01:08:57.720
no, what? Sorry, she's just standing there. Yeah,
01:08:57.800 --> 01:08:59.319
like, can you imagine just turning around and
01:08:59.319 --> 01:09:02.140
staring in disbelief at your dragons? And everyone
01:09:02.140 --> 01:09:05.180
else was like, what? We saw the big black dragon.
01:09:05.279 --> 01:09:06.800
Are you just now realizing that's who you came
01:09:06.800 --> 01:09:10.819
in with? Like, are you okay? Like, do you need
01:09:10.819 --> 01:09:14.819
a mentor? Do you need Nolan? But after she's
01:09:14.819 --> 01:09:16.899
given the name, so, like, they know she knows.
01:09:17.479 --> 01:09:19.060
Okay, so I have two things really quickly before
01:09:19.060 --> 01:09:21.460
we turn the page. So first, she's saying, do
01:09:21.460 --> 01:09:24.220
you need a mender? Not Nolan, implying that there
01:09:24.220 --> 01:09:28.579
is multiple menders on site. Two, so we keep
01:09:28.579 --> 01:09:30.640
talking about how the only people who know the
01:09:30.640 --> 01:09:33.279
dragon's names are... writer who gives it and
01:09:33.279 --> 01:09:35.579
the scribes but the person who is taking role
01:09:35.579 --> 01:09:37.460
is not a scribe and i just went back that's why
01:09:37.460 --> 01:09:39.899
i got quiet for a minute to confirm this so this
01:09:39.899 --> 01:09:42.300
redhead she mentions is the same person who is
01:09:42.300 --> 01:09:44.920
taking role at parapet so if we go back when
01:09:44.920 --> 01:09:47.600
she had the knife at jack's balls yep yeah so
01:09:47.600 --> 01:09:52.279
that was a writer who is a redhead so we have
01:09:52.279 --> 01:09:55.100
a writer who is taking the role so there is plenty
01:09:55.100 --> 01:09:59.500
of room for for tricky tricks between where this
01:09:59.500 --> 01:10:02.100
role is taken and when the scribes get it. Yeah.
01:10:02.800 --> 01:10:05.220
Just pointing that out there. There's that aspect.
01:10:05.340 --> 01:10:07.720
And I think if we said scribes, it was by accent
01:10:07.720 --> 01:10:09.579
or by interpretation. Because we constantly talk
01:10:09.579 --> 01:10:11.680
about the rolekeeper, and it would make sense
01:10:11.680 --> 01:10:13.380
that scribes were rolekeepers, except for they're
01:10:13.380 --> 01:10:15.859
not allowed. Yeah, I assumed that it was a scribe.
01:10:15.859 --> 01:10:18.020
Yeah, I think I just assumed scribe. But yeah,
01:10:18.060 --> 01:10:20.380
it says only a writer and the rolekeeper know
01:10:20.380 --> 01:10:24.140
a dragon's full name. Yeah. So maybe the dragon
01:10:24.140 --> 01:10:26.920
writer... quadrant refused to let the scribes
01:10:26.920 --> 01:10:29.539
have this capacity. Maybe they insisted that
01:10:29.539 --> 01:10:32.060
it had to remain within the writer's quadrant.
01:10:32.199 --> 01:10:35.220
Keep that info top secret even from the information
01:10:35.220 --> 01:10:40.500
sector. Yeah. Because the dragons insist. I love
01:10:40.500 --> 01:10:43.060
that argument. Because the dragons insist. Both
01:10:43.060 --> 01:10:47.699
dragons are like, fucking tell her the name.
01:10:48.119 --> 01:10:50.619
So, of course, Violet turns around and says,
01:10:50.859 --> 01:10:54.880
very quietly, And in Darnaurum. And everyone
01:10:54.880 --> 01:11:02.439
freaks. Because landing with the biggest black
01:11:02.439 --> 01:11:04.539
dragon on the continent, or the second largest
01:11:04.539 --> 01:11:07.239
dragon on the continent, wasn't enough. But then
01:11:07.239 --> 01:11:10.920
she gets a second dragon? Like, yeah. That's
01:11:10.920 --> 01:11:16.420
not fair! It's not fair! I think some people
01:11:16.420 --> 01:11:18.300
are feeling inadequate about their bond right
01:11:18.300 --> 01:11:25.149
now. Yeah. Yeah. think so well that took longer
01:11:25.149 --> 01:11:26.789
than i thought you guys it always ends up that
01:11:26.789 --> 01:11:30.130
way sorry yeah but that is the end of chapter
01:11:30.130 --> 01:11:33.250
15 and unless we have any thoughts we can go
01:11:33.250 --> 01:11:37.689
ahead and end it now send her on all right so
01:11:37.689 --> 01:11:41.369
that'll do it for us this week and until next
01:11:41.369 --> 01:11:52.600
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drop every Tuesday. We'll see you in chapter
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16.