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guys we've been recording for almost two hours
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this is supposed to be a short chapter and a
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short shorter episode i don't girl girl i've
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been trying okay no i'm not blaming you at all
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i'm i'm blaming all of you It's a joint effort.
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It is more than a joint. And also, when did we
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ever think that threshing and the presentation
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and everything else were going to be short episodes?
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I know. This podcast discusses a nonstop thrilling
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adventure fantasy series set in the brutal and
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competitive world of a military college for dragon
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riders, which includes potential spoilers for
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pregnancy, bodily functions, and explicit language,
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the Wing Raiders. Welcome to the Wing Raiders,
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where we deep dive into the Empyrean series chapter
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by chapter, theorize and overanalyze. I'm Abby.
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I'm John. And today we are covering Fourth Wing
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Chapter 12, Part 2. Here is your friendly reminder
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that all published material is fair game, so
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please continue at your own risk. And we just
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jump right into where we left off from Part 1.
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So without further ado, John is going to get
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back into the recap. We get this amazing comparison
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from Violet that there's a couple of, I think
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it was greens, I just looked away from the line.
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Nope, a set of browns that are slightly smaller
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than her mother's Amster, but not by much. So,
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like, Violet is very adequately and intimately
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aware of Amster's size and physique and look
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and everything. And so I have this image in my
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brain. Of Mama Sorengale popping out babies and
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every time she gives birth to a child, at some
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point having to hike to wherever Aimsir can meet
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her so that she can present the baby before Aimsir.
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Like, yeah, I just, I had this image of toddlers
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running around dragging this Aimsir and Aimsir
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having to be like, I understand they're your
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children, but I'm going to step on one of them.
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They're like little bugs. While I love the headcanon,
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I do want to point out that in, I believe, chapter
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three, when they get the dragons on the wall,
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she says, even though I've grown up around this,
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they've never let me get this close. That she
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remembers. Do you remember everything that happens
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the day you were born? I mean, not much before
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I turned three. I know. And so that's like, she's
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clearly Violet is aware of Aimsor, even if she's
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not aware of other dragons. And so that's just
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my question is like, is my headcanon accurate
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that once riders start having children, the dragons
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will show some interest in the rider's progeny?
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I don't know. Like, would they care? I kind of
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feel like they're like, that's not my rider.
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I don't care. Yeah, but your writer made that
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shit. So? Okay. I just, I can see them being
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very disinterested because they didn't make any
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choices about it. If we're likening dragons to
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cats, I will tell you that when I brought home
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my babies, my dogs were thrilled and all up on
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them and all up on me like, oh my god, mom, you
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did so good. And my cats are like, um. okay but
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are you going to pet me so if we're going if
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we're going with that comparison they wouldn't
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care okay i'm just like can you imagine having
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this dragon that's been in your mind for years
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and you're so intimately connected with each
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other and then you become pregnant and it's like
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oh great I'll see you in a couple of years when
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you're done with that problem. They might not,
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like, completely detach from their, like, they
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might still be around. I'm just envisioning Amesir
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in Mamasaur and Gil's brain when she's pushing,
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like, you will not die from this! Yeah, I believe
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that. Either way, like, I don't believe that
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a dragon can be so, like, connected and intertwined
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with their rider. And that... Something like
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this would happen in the writer's lives and the
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dragons would not have some involvement, even
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if it wasn't an interest to see the baby, but
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still a willingness to let their writer show
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them the baby. Sure. Because you gave birth to
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two little kids. I'm pretty sure you enjoyed
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showing the baby to everybody in the day after.
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Yes. Yes. So I don't know. It's just a weird
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headcanon that I've had going in my brain for
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quite a while now. I'm just picturing when you,
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like, hand your cats things to sniff, and they're
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like, oh, yeah, I really want to sniff it. Oh,
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no, that's boring. Yeah. Okay, I'm done. And
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it's really funny to me, because sentence by
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sentence, it's two different perspectives again.
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Violet, looking at a set of browns and thinking,
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heh, you're kind of small compared to Aimsir.
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And then you got Rhiannon, like, I know I saw
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the dragons at Parapet, but they are bigger than
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I thought they'd be. It's just amazing. And then
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Violet, the queen of deflection here, is like,
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so what about that niece or nephew? Right, it's
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two options. Either I can enthrall you with a
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long story of history that you will not remember
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a detail of, or you can do some talking. Yep,
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yep, yep. I do want to say that talking about
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technology is that the midwives of this fantasy
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world are able to tell with... pretty good accuracy
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the sex of the baby before the baby is born which
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i think is very interesting and i wonder how
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that is done and maybe if violet is pregnant
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we will find that out yes that as well but like
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there is a lot of historical accuracy to that
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concept there it's not like the documentation
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is so well founded that it's without dispute
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and people do like to try to throw some well
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they could just be making it up we don't know
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what really happened and back then doubt on historical
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records but through the years especially in medieval
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times there were a number of midwives or women
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who became known for their renowned ability to
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not only identify a woman who was pregnant but
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then being able to make such predictions through
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the pregnancy at various times with such accuracy
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and they weren't relying on weird voodoo a lot
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of them were listening to the baby inside the
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womb or like there's a superstition that when
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you have a boy you end up in that you carry low
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and I've seen it before you carry low and your
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stomach is out more than it normally is with
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other pregnancies like I've heard this I've also
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heard so many people talk about how they carried
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low and it was a girl it's not a perfect science
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usually carry low is more associated with size
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as the resident Parent. Person who has been pregnant.
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All of the old wives tales for both of my...
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boys were incorrect. All of them said I was having
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a girl both times. And that was heart rate. That
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was how you're carrying. That was whether you're
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having heartburn or not, whether you are craving
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sweet or salty foods. That one's bullshit. There's
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even like a pee one, like the acidity of your
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pee. And I tried that test. And that also said
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I was having a girl both times. And I have two
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boys as far as I know. So I mean, if they both
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come out as trans. later then i could be like
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okay well maybe this it was on as of now the
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the sweet and salty that one i know for a fact
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is no yeah there's a bunch of bullshit ones that
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are just for fun um yeah you know there's like
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the the chinese zodiac chart like a specific
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Like when your due date is and your birthday
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and it measures whatever, whatever. There's also
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one that was just fun to do, which was like a
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pendulum thing where you take a necklace and
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hold it over your stomach. And if it goes like,
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I can't remember which is which, of course, but
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if it goes side to side, it's one. And if it
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goes in a circle, it's the other. Oh, I heard
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counterclockwise was boy and clockwise was girl.
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Oh, no, I didn't hear that one. There's probably
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several versions. Yeah. Yeah. As we mentioned
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here, we have the realization that healers can
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usually make a pretty good guess when someone's
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along. And we get this back and forth about,
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like, this back and forth growing between Violet
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and Rihanna is how I'm going to describe it.
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It progresses into, it's a shame you can't hear
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from your family. And we hear exactly how Violet
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feels about this. And I don't entirely disagree
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with Violet on this stance. Which is like, it's
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bullshit. That's my fucking sibling. And whether
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or not I've had a chance to talk to them for
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a year, if they send me a letter, I'm probably
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going to feel the same after the year as I would
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before the year. Right? Yep. She specifically
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says that there are some bonds, or there are
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bonds that can't be broken, which is a very apt
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thing to say when we're talking about presentation
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and dragons. And two books later, we have quite
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the experience that occurs. But yes, you're absolutely
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correct. I also think it's... It is an interesting
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rule, and I can see it more as being a rule for,
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like, love interests and friends and things like
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that. Because, yeah, I agree with Violet that
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not having correspondence from your family is
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not going to really affect you. Well, or even,
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like, I could maybe even see an argument of we
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don't want you writing to your parents and crying
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to mommy every other letter. As much as that's
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a horrible phrasing. They don't want them to
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look to their family for the support that they
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should be building for themselves, right? That's,
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yeah, that's also valid. It also really just
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makes me think of another Instagram person that
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I love following, the curly haired book talk
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guy that like did the whole series of videos
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of like, I don't understand people who are only
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children. If you... try to say someone is like
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your sibling to me and you haven't gone to fucking
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fist with them at least five times over the lifetime
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of your relationship i don't believe you if you
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and this person are not equally ready to annihilate
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each other and annihilate any person who so much
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as looks at them yes that's you are not actually
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someone's sibling and so ah makes me so happy
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I had a moment in the middle of that conversation
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where I felt Drew's influence in my brain. I
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haven't decided if it's welcome or not yet. But
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when she's talking about, like, so she's in the
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middle of starting this conversation and she's
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also like, oh, I'm trying not to make eye contact.
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And she's like. Breathe normally. Swallow the
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fear. And in my brain, I continued, Fear is the
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mind killer. And it will also get you real killed.
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Did Drew start reciting the Dune mantra, Fear
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is the little death that erases her? I can't
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remember it. The litany of fear. Yeah, the litany
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of fear. I don't... I think the last time that
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I heard him say this, he was facilitating our
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little neighborhood group, one of our meetings.
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And we usually do, we call it a land acknowledgement,
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but it's not always an acknowledgement. Sometimes
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it's like a fun fact about like a bit of relevant
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local native culture or something like that.
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And so the first time he didn't exactly know
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what, like how it worked. And the time before
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someone had brought in a prayer. And so so for
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his first time, he brought in the litany of fear
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and read that off. And it wasn't like not in
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keeping with some of the stuff we bring in. It
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was just very funny. I'm going to I'm going to
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read it here because I looked it up and there
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are maybe some readers. So what we're referencing
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is the. If you've watched the movie Dune, or
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obviously if any of the listeners have read the
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book Dune, then they know exactly what we're
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talking about. But it's the litany that the Bene
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Gesserit use to school fear as it occurs inside
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of them. So it's, I must not fear. Fear is the
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mind killer. Fear is the little death that brings
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total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will
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permit it to pass over me and through me. And
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when it has gone past, I will turn the inner
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eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone,
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there will be nothing. Only I will remain. I
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mean, it's pretty good. It's very fitting. It's
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very fitting. It is. It is. It is. I've heard
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people who have started to use it as like an
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anxiety mantra and are like, it's upsettingly
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helpful. I can see that. Absolutely. It is so
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helpful if you can actually fucking remember
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it all. I am so bad about remembering shit like
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that. This is where like the write your affirmations
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on a sticky note and put them on the mirror.
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Just put that on the mirror. Yo, I swear, I searched
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litany of fear and the second line was tattoo.
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And I'm like, yeah, I could see that all just
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in a line on my arm. Just read the forearm. Anytime
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I see something that causes me fear. Recite again,
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please. And again, we have Tynan deciding to
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interrupt the conversation and the bonding that's
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occurring with assholery ship. As he starts to
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make very inappropriate comparisons between Violet
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and her sister. Yeah. Only to be reminded by
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Violet that it's very, very, very likely that
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Mira would just kill him where he stood rather
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than deal with an ounce of his bullshit. and
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then he makes what has to be the lewdest comment
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ever made maybe i'll write a letter of my own
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once we get privileges bitch please that's almost
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like you're not ever getting privileges right
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like that was almost a your mom joke yeah i hate
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him And then, of course, Rhiannon, figuring out
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what was happening here, steps in again and continues
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the conversation about whether or not she'd like
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to have a nephew or a niece. I don't understand
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why we couldn't just just generically accept
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nibblings as the correct word here. I mean, it
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is kind of a weird word. Like, I wish we had
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a better one. I do, too. Normalize nibblings.
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Do we have a gender neutral for, like, uncle
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or aunt? Not really. Well, I mean, is there one
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that's like commonly used? No, I've heard people
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ask about this before and I haven't heard any
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real consensus of an answer. That is one of the
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few gender neutrals, yes, that I am not familiar
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with at all. But I will share this because I
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just saw it on social media. And I am entirely
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for this. You have Mr., Miss, and Mrs., right?
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But did you know that all of them are based off
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of the old English word magister? Which, believe
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it or not, is based off of the even older word
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mage. And so I am on the gender neutral Mr. Miss
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Mrs. is mage. I'm mage. I love that. Please cut
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my last name because I didn't mean to say it
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on podcast there. I'll cut it. I'll bleep it.
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I'll bleep it so we can keep the... Keep the
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mage. The commentary. Thank you. And so, yes,
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I am all for referring to people as mages because
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we need more magic in this world. Amen. Also,
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it sounds fancy. Like, when people are like,
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there's sir and madam, but then what do we call
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anyone else? And there's, like, people throw
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out random things that are usually, like, formal
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titles from, like, the military or whatever.
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But Mage feels formal enough. And cool. Yeah.
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Mr. and Mrs. and Mages. And again, Rhiannon's
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like, boys aren't too bad. Only have Violet chime
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in. And I'm like, are you sure? Case in point,
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Tynan. I love that you say that, because the
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example that we get is my brother and Dane, and
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it's basically just Dane. And I also want to
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comment, because you called this out during the
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epigraph here. We get this little note from...
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Violet's perspective here that the smell of sulfur
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has faded as though she has become used to it.
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Yep. I wonder if that is common as potential
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bonds start forming around you. I wonder if that,
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like, because as the dragons are walking along,
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they're... potentially like magic probing these
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writers and being like, do I like your magic
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feels right? Like I'm going to pick you up and
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do I like the feel of this magic? Do not make
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that face at me, Cassie. The number of times
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I've watched you touch a fabric to decide whether
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or not you like it. And the number of ways that
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I can describe the correct tongue texture of
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oat milk. I'm sorry. I was just picturing them,
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like, lifting someone's aura out of their body
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and, like, lifting it and placing it back. Right,
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just, like, bouncing it a little bit, jiggling
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it to see if they can hear the juices. This might
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be inappropriate, but I am breastfeeding my son,
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and I often forget which side I fed him last
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on, and so I do, like, a little, like, I weigh
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my breasts to see which one feels heavier. So,
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I feel we have validated that the dragons are
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definitely, like, magic probing a little bit
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here. Since all of us can describe one way or
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another that we've held something up and waited.
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You're lifting your boobs, I'm talking about
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oat milk on my tongue, and Cassie's over here
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with fabric. I mean... I'm sure there are more
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examples that we don't need to name. Yes. I just
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want to say that as the resident perfume addict,
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going nose blind is a pretty normal process if
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you've been smelling something constantly. So
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I don't know that this has to have anything to
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do with the magic or the bonding. I think it's
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happening regardless, but yeah. Yeah, you never
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know. Either way. And of course, Violet redirects
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back into, Dane's going to give me shit just
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like Amber Mavis did. Mm -hmm. Fucking Dane.
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Fucking Dane. And we get this lovely line. Is
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the way that the dragons stare at us scary as
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hell? Absolutely. But if they're here for the
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same shit, we are. So maybe they won't burn me.
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Mm -hmm. And we have notably passed the halfway
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mark. And Rhiannon brings the conversation back
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to a more personal note. She begins to wonder
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why Violet did not share the plans that Violet
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was creating to get through the gauntlet when
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Violet was making the plans. Why wasn't Violet
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open and forthright about the plan with the rope?
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Or even more so, the plan with the dagger? Because
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Rebecca had to keep it a secret from the reader
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so she couldn't have Violet go telling other
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people. Well, also, because this is one of Violet's
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key characteristics, is she is not going to bother
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other people. She's going to keep things close
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to her chest. And I'm like, I wrote down, get
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used to it, Rhi, because this is the first instance
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of many where she is not going to be confiding
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in you. And, like, I want to call out here, you're
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saying it's one of Violet's key characteristics?
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Oh, and Zayden's, if that's what we're talking
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about. Oh, oh, I want to, I can go further. I
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think that that's a key characteristic of every
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dragon rider we have met so far. Name a dragon
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rider who doesn't try to put the weight of the
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world on their shoulders. Who doesn't try to
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throw themselves into the middle of everything.
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Well... Yeah, but I feel like that's a little
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different than not confiding because we know
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I feel like Rhiannon is very, very upfront and,
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you know, turning towards her friends. And I
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would say even like Riddick and Sawyer are, too,
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where, yes, they're still going to, like, you
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know, take the world onto their shoulders. But
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I don't think that they're as inclined to try
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to do it by themselves. Yeah, that's about the
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secrets and doing it. So I'm going to call that
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one on. I'm going to call you on that one because
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Riddick. How do I want to phrase this? No, I'm
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going to start with Rhiannon. Rhiannon internalizes
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the actual act of being a squad leader all through
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the second and third book, right? Like, Rhiannon
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is on this constant struggle of these are my
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friends and I want to protect them, but I'm also
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their squad leader and it's my job to order them
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to the front line. Doesn't she have a couple
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conversations about that, though? No. Violet
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calls her on it and says, I know you're thinking
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it. Stop. But they never actually talk about
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it until we get to her perspective. And that's
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when her dragon basically starts calling her
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on it and saying, you can't constantly keep putting
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yourself responsible for people that are not
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currently in your direct line of command. Violet
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is not in your direct line of command in this
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mission. You can worry for her, but you cannot
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let it compromise you. The other one I was going
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to point out is like, Riddick goes out of his
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way to find some way to prove to the others that
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he is not just a class clown with the ability
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to, as we find out later, freeze a fucking wyvern
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to death. And so I feel like it is almost an
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inherent trait of being a dragon rider that you
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have to have the right mixture of ego and...
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I don't know what the right word is to throw
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yourself into solving whatever the problem is,
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even if it means throwing yourself on it. Hero
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syndrome? Hero syndrome. Super, super hero syndrome.
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I think hubris is the... The right word I'm looking
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for. You're right. It's also called the greater
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fool, but... I'll give you that they all try
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to protect each other by taking everything on.
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But she's... Violet says, I didn't want you to
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be an accomplice. And I was like, Isn't that
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what friends are supposed to be? Your accomplices?
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Your partners in crime? Your backup? They become
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her partners in crime. Right, like literally.
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Quite literally in many, many, many, many instances.
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So when she's talking about how basically protecting
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your friend by keeping secrets, it's just what
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friends do. And it's like, you know what they
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also do? Actually make each other accomplices.
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Yes. The quote I was looking for, and I love
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that I just keep quoting all of these other sources
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that are not our book, but this comes from the
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newsroom, which was written by Aaron Sorkin.
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I'm only going to use a small part of the quote.
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The greater fool is someone with the perfect
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blend of self -delusion and ego to think that
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he can succeed where others have failed. The
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quote ends with, this whole country was made
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by greater fools. So I'm not saying that it isn't
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valid. I'm not saying that it isn't something
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that happens. I'm just saying, I'm pretty sure
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that this whole, it's a dragon rider thing. It's
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a dragon rider thing. Nothing but a dragon rider.
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That's fair. Violet just has more secrets to
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keep. This is also true. And they impact other
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people more. And she has a very good, like Violet
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is smart and smart people do not have a hard
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time finding excuses to do something. Right.
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We're so good at rationalizing as a species in
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general. And then also it's like the smarter
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you are, the easier it is to rationalize dumb
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stuff. Right. And so even if the motivation really
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was I just didn't want people to know what I
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was going to do in case they shot me with an
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arrow as soon as I tried to do it. But really,
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her rationality is I didn't want I didn't want
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to drag you down with me. I didn't want to sully
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your name with my bad plans. Which is hilarious,
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because, like, do you think the dragons would
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have taken the time to question Rhiannon about
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whether or not she knew Violet was going to do
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that before they decided to start roasting someone?
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The whole thing does not pass the sniff check
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when you actually give it time to pass the sniff
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check. Yeah. But as we know, our characters are
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not really in a good place to test whether something
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passes the sniff check. They're too busy smelling
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sulfur. Of course, Rhiannon does ask that tell
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-all question that will become the key pivotal
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part of their relationship for a while now. Are
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you keeping any other secrets up there? Mm -hmm.
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Well, of course. Let me just redirect with philosophy.
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Intelligence. Poise. And really, that is quite
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a wonderful flirting line. Like, some guy asks
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if you're keeping any secrets from him and you
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can be like, well, does anyone really know everyone?
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And, like, such a flirty line. I'm sorry. It
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is. Only to have Rihanna totally call her on
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it. And then Violet, our girl Violet, decides
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instead she'll make a promise rather than, again,
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having to reveal that she is, in fact, keeping
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some secrets from some folks. And she makes the
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promise that if... If there is ever something
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that Rhiannon can do to help her, Violet will
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ask her to help her. She will not stop from letting
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Rhiannon help her, basically. And they're friends
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again. But Rhiannon has to promise the same,
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and then I'm picturing a little... kind of pretending
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from really far away, pinky promising. Air pinky
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promise. Yeah, air pinky promise from seven feet
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away with dragons on either side of them, just
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staring at them. Just a little wiggle. I'm constantly
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reminded of the perspective of Taron, who is
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like, he's 80 years old, or almost 100 years
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old, and he decided to bond a 20 -year -old hyper
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-pheromone -filled, hyper -hormone -filled Like,
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ugh. I'm just imagining these dragons watching
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these little hormone -filled bags of teenager
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walking by like, do I really want to do this?
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I know it gets better, but like, I have to raise
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them first. It's like picking out a kitten. You're
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like, ugh. They're just so chaotic, get into
00:27:54.230 --> 00:27:56.910
so much trouble, and I have to guide them through
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everything. We get a nice little shout out from
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Tynan, who of course has to mock everybody, but
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does happen to inform us that we are getting
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close to the end, which means we are approaching
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a very key moment for all of us. Yes. As Tynan
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goes on about how he can't figure out what dragon
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he wants to choose. We come across a dragon that
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really will define the rest of the series. So
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shiny! Before we get to that, I do like to call
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out, with arrogance like that, I'm sure any dragon
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would feel lucky to share your mind with you
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the rest of your life. Like, oh! Beautiful. Beautiful.
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Those are the lines I'm here for. So a little
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peek behind the curtain here. We were recording
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late into the night last night. We were only
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supposed to record for an hour and that quickly
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turned into. Two? Two hours? And it was everyone's
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bedtime. So we had to stop, but it is the next
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day and we are reconvening in Chapter 12. So,
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John, do you want to pick us back up where we
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left off, please? Absolutely. So we had just
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passed the line with arrogance like that. I'm
00:29:12.460 --> 00:29:14.759
sure any dragon will feel lucky to share your
00:29:14.759 --> 00:29:18.759
mind for the rest of your life. Which also, side
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:21.109
note. We all keep talking about how much we would
00:29:21.109 --> 00:29:23.829
like a dragon. Would you enjoy having someone
00:29:23.829 --> 00:29:27.869
that nosy, always in your fucking business, with
00:29:27.869 --> 00:29:34.269
no ability to stop it? I think yes. Maybe not.
00:29:34.390 --> 00:29:38.250
I think honestly yes, because A, I'm a nosy bitch,
00:29:38.390 --> 00:29:48.309
and game respects game. B, I... I don't know.
00:29:48.390 --> 00:29:51.470
I sometimes I have a really hard time like describing
00:29:51.470 --> 00:29:55.410
what I'm thinking and my my feelings. And so
00:29:55.410 --> 00:29:57.990
I think just having someone that just like knows
00:29:57.990 --> 00:30:00.769
and is in my head would be refreshing. Also.
00:30:01.609 --> 00:30:05.549
I love talking. So I love telling everybody my
00:30:05.549 --> 00:30:07.430
business. I want you to know my business. I want
00:30:07.430 --> 00:30:09.089
to know your business. So I think personally,
00:30:09.130 --> 00:30:11.309
this would be like a dream come true, especially
00:30:11.309 --> 00:30:14.309
if they're like, if it's a relationship like
00:30:14.309 --> 00:30:18.150
Riddick and Uhtram, or if it's like Ternan and
00:30:18.150 --> 00:30:21.630
Darna, like the sassiness, like I love quipping.
00:30:21.630 --> 00:30:25.009
I love doing like little snide remarks back and
00:30:25.009 --> 00:30:27.710
forth. So I think I would have a good time. Those
00:30:27.710 --> 00:30:33.599
are great points. However, I have the do not
00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:36.619
wish to be perceived mood in person all the time.
00:30:36.619 --> 00:30:39.279
I definitely don't need performance anxiety about
00:30:39.279 --> 00:30:42.400
my own thoughts. This is also where I'm coming
00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:44.279
from. I love that you brought up Riddick and
00:30:44.279 --> 00:30:46.900
Atrium because... I was just thinking about the
00:30:46.900 --> 00:30:49.859
fact that, like, I'm going on about how you can't
00:30:49.859 --> 00:30:52.779
keep anything from your dragon. Somehow, Riddick
00:30:52.779 --> 00:30:55.819
bought an entire bucket of itching powder, snuck
00:30:55.819 --> 00:30:58.880
it into the flight field, and managed to get
00:30:58.880 --> 00:31:02.160
it onto his dragon's back to dump all over his
00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:04.119
dragon. His dragon had no fucking idea what was
00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:07.940
going on. So clearly, you can keep some boundaries
00:31:07.940 --> 00:31:10.279
from some amount of time, but that just also
00:31:10.279 --> 00:31:13.410
makes me wonder how much, like... How strong
00:31:13.410 --> 00:31:15.990
Riddick's shields have to be and how practiced
00:31:15.990 --> 00:31:19.410
he has to be at shielding because... Or his dragon's
00:31:19.410 --> 00:31:23.910
less nosy. Yeah. Or both, yeah. Call him A, call
00:31:23.910 --> 00:31:28.769
him B. Okay, the rest of the squad is gathered
00:31:28.769 --> 00:31:31.089
around as they are coming around this last bend
00:31:31.089 --> 00:31:33.309
and we enter what will be a very interesting
00:31:33.309 --> 00:31:36.109
moment. I will give a little moment here to call
00:31:36.109 --> 00:31:39.990
out in the graphic audio. version of the audiobooks
00:31:39.990 --> 00:31:42.930
the background music literally changes at this
00:31:42.930 --> 00:31:46.990
exact moment into like fire of angels kind of
00:31:46.990 --> 00:31:52.490
it's like idyllic nature whoa background noise
00:31:52.490 --> 00:31:54.670
and it's like i wonder are we meeting someone
00:31:54.670 --> 00:31:59.940
magical Tynan gives us our first reaction, and
00:31:59.940 --> 00:32:03.319
this entire exchange here, I swear to God, I'll
00:32:03.319 --> 00:32:05.200
show my book to the others, but the amount of
00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:07.779
red underlining is all of the shit -talking that
00:32:07.779 --> 00:32:11.259
these people do about Andarna. And all I can
00:32:11.259 --> 00:32:15.059
keep thinking is, given the fact that they're
00:32:15.059 --> 00:32:16.839
all clustered together and Violet is in there,
00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:19.000
I can understand why they didn't just incinerate
00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:22.779
the group standing right then and there. But
00:32:22.779 --> 00:32:24.720
folks should have been dying as soon as they
00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:27.769
separated away. Okay. That's what I'm saying.
00:32:27.829 --> 00:32:29.890
I have it written down. Why in the world wasn't
00:32:29.890 --> 00:32:32.809
Tynan immediately incinerated for saying that
00:32:32.809 --> 00:32:36.589
they should kill Andarna? Right? Yeah. Like,
00:32:36.589 --> 00:32:39.029
they spread back. Like, he should be dead already.
00:32:39.269 --> 00:32:41.769
It makes no sense. They shouldn't even get to
00:32:41.769 --> 00:32:43.549
the point where they're colluding in my chapter.
00:32:44.009 --> 00:32:48.869
I know. And I do have, like, one little thing
00:32:48.869 --> 00:32:52.069
that I thought of that we'll get to once we get
00:32:52.069 --> 00:32:57.049
to Andarna in Threshing of... And possibly the
00:32:57.049 --> 00:33:00.390
other dragons are like, you left the veil on
00:33:00.390 --> 00:33:05.069
your own accord against our wishes, against our
00:33:05.069 --> 00:33:07.890
recommendation. So whatever happens to you is
00:33:07.890 --> 00:33:10.349
on you now. So that's like the only thing that
00:33:10.349 --> 00:33:12.809
I can see. But I'm still like, I don't know.
00:33:13.470 --> 00:33:15.130
It still just doesn't make sense to me. I've
00:33:15.130 --> 00:33:16.710
got a little head theory that I've been working
00:33:16.710 --> 00:33:19.430
on here. And I got an idea that might go with
00:33:19.430 --> 00:33:21.470
us. But let's keep going. We get a what the hell.
00:33:21.900 --> 00:33:25.099
And they keep walking as everyone's gaze becomes
00:33:25.099 --> 00:33:28.099
transfixed on the golden feather -tailed dragon
00:33:28.099 --> 00:33:31.220
at the end of the line, who is described to be
00:33:31.220 --> 00:33:34.099
beautiful with sharp teeth, quick darting movements,
00:33:34.460 --> 00:33:37.140
and is probably only a few feet taller than our
00:33:37.140 --> 00:33:40.740
girl, Violet. Which means that technically, Indarna
00:33:40.740 --> 00:33:43.160
is currently how to train your dragon -sized.
00:33:46.460 --> 00:33:50.019
For reference for everybody. Yes, great, great
00:33:50.019 --> 00:33:54.710
point. And then this next line here, I underlined
00:33:54.710 --> 00:33:58.789
it and then just wrote Newton ball cadets. Because
00:33:58.789 --> 00:34:01.869
I've got this image in my head of everybody in
00:34:01.869 --> 00:34:04.250
the line looking to the side and not looking
00:34:04.250 --> 00:34:07.069
forward and just like going until they collide
00:34:07.069 --> 00:34:09.130
with the person that was seven feet ahead of
00:34:09.130 --> 00:34:11.469
them. At which point that person keeps going
00:34:11.469 --> 00:34:14.550
and looks like loses their transfixion. But the
00:34:14.550 --> 00:34:16.570
other person is still kind of like stuck there
00:34:16.570 --> 00:34:19.780
and dazed until the next Newton ball. Yeah. Newton
00:34:19.780 --> 00:34:24.280
ball cadets. And then we get, so this is where
00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:26.940
my first moment was like, a dragon needs to just
00:34:26.940 --> 00:34:30.500
lean forward with his head and chomp really hard.
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:33.559
Tynan says, who the hell would bond that thing?
00:34:33.619 --> 00:34:37.579
And I literally just wrote, kill him. Yep. You're
00:34:37.579 --> 00:34:41.719
dead. Go away. Luca decides to come in by saying
00:34:41.719 --> 00:34:44.039
it's fucking yellow, too small to carry a rider,
00:34:44.260 --> 00:34:48.179
and not even powerful enough to be a real color,
00:34:48.219 --> 00:34:52.670
which is like, Go fuck yourself, Luca. And I
00:34:52.670 --> 00:34:55.650
will be honest for a moment here. Sawyer got
00:34:55.650 --> 00:34:57.809
himself almost in trouble. Almost in trouble.
00:34:57.889 --> 00:35:00.909
Because he says, maybe it's a mistake. And I'm
00:35:00.909 --> 00:35:03.349
like, you never call a dragon a mistake. A dragon
00:35:03.349 --> 00:35:07.269
is never a mistake. Yeah. But then he corrects
00:35:07.269 --> 00:35:09.449
it. He is halfway right, though. Yeah, maybe
00:35:09.449 --> 00:35:12.269
it's a baby orange. So, like, that's where I'm
00:35:12.269 --> 00:35:13.969
like, it's kind of redeeming. But I wouldn't
00:35:13.969 --> 00:35:16.769
have phrased it that way, my friend. Yeah. Yeah.
00:35:16.809 --> 00:35:19.630
I can see him. It's a mistake that it's here.
00:35:20.309 --> 00:35:24.070
Yeah. But still, yeah. Maybe keep, keep that
00:35:24.070 --> 00:35:28.090
thought on the inside. Cassie really quick. I
00:35:28.090 --> 00:35:29.889
just want to say that I'm really appreciating
00:35:29.889 --> 00:35:32.190
your, your braid necklace right now. Thank you.
00:35:32.190 --> 00:35:34.250
I was playing with it and I was like, Oh wait,
00:35:34.269 --> 00:35:38.969
this is kind of cute. I can't stand my hair on
00:35:38.969 --> 00:35:40.889
my neck. So I don't know how you can stand that.
00:35:41.320 --> 00:35:44.380
I hate my hair anywhere on my body at all. It's
00:35:44.380 --> 00:35:47.500
braided, so it's, like, there aren't, like, pieces.
00:35:47.699 --> 00:35:49.500
Like, because what I don't like is, like, one
00:35:49.500 --> 00:35:54.559
hair by itself somewhere. Yeah. I'm very purposely
00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:56.820
going through all of the red first, and then
00:35:56.820 --> 00:35:58.420
I'm going to go back and do the blue, which was
00:35:58.420 --> 00:36:01.739
the good comment. So going through this conversation
00:36:01.739 --> 00:36:04.920
here. Tynan says, who would bond that thing?
00:36:05.059 --> 00:36:09.000
Luca gives us all these nasties. Tynan says it's
00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:11.840
a mistake, alright, then compares it to Violet
00:36:11.840 --> 00:36:15.380
by saying they're both freakishly weak. And then
00:36:15.380 --> 00:36:17.820
Luke backs this up by saying it is golden and
00:36:17.820 --> 00:36:20.559
small, much like our petite silver -haired friend.
00:36:21.179 --> 00:36:24.559
Before Tynan decides to really just finish it
00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:26.719
out by saying someone should kill it, it's just
00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:31.699
going to get its rider killed. Again, if I were
00:36:31.699 --> 00:36:33.940
any of the dragons, anywhere in this vicinity,
00:36:34.460 --> 00:36:38.380
That kid is like, you don't have the, it's a
00:36:38.380 --> 00:36:41.440
crime for dragons to kill other dragons. A human
00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:43.639
plans to kill a dragon, you kill it right then
00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:46.599
and there because you're stupid. Yeah, you can't
00:36:46.599 --> 00:36:49.559
stand for that. Yeah. Also, now he's on board
00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:52.460
with, it's not like we get a choice of bonding.
00:36:54.019 --> 00:36:57.360
Which I love because I put an underline on this
00:36:57.360 --> 00:36:59.840
one. Riddick says you're just picking up on that
00:36:59.840 --> 00:37:03.960
now, are you? Which I'm like. What I love is
00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:06.179
you just called him stupid without calling him
00:37:06.179 --> 00:37:08.980
stupid. Well, yeah, he's been out here being
00:37:08.980 --> 00:37:13.380
like, which one am I going to pick? No, I think
00:37:13.380 --> 00:37:15.320
it's even funnier given the fact that they just
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:17.900
had the whole argument of you do not insult other
00:37:17.900 --> 00:37:21.099
cadets in front of unbonded dragons. And Riddick
00:37:21.099 --> 00:37:22.900
comes in with this, well, fine, I won't insult
00:37:22.900 --> 00:37:26.980
him, but I'm still going to insult him. going
00:37:26.980 --> 00:37:29.340
back through the conversation again here we had
00:37:29.340 --> 00:37:32.519
positive comments violet is like you realize
00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:35.579
a the dragons can hear you rihanna argues it
00:37:35.579 --> 00:37:37.820
has to be fully grown dragons would never let
00:37:37.820 --> 00:37:40.260
a baby bond we haven't ever seen a baby before
00:37:40.260 --> 00:37:43.360
violet points out that it looks powerful enough
00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:47.659
to burn him to death And, of course, Sawyer makes
00:37:47.659 --> 00:37:50.500
the comment that we do not ever say things about
00:37:50.500 --> 00:37:52.139
a squadmate, negative things about a squadmate,
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:54.199
especially in front of unbonded dragons, and
00:37:54.199 --> 00:37:56.420
don't make a mistake in front of them. We don't
00:37:56.420 --> 00:37:57.960
know what they'll do. Actually, that last one
00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:00.980
came from Trina, sorry. Which I also found notable,
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:03.019
because if I remember right, Trina is the quiet
00:38:03.019 --> 00:38:07.059
one in the squad. Yes. That's why she's whispering.
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:13.710
Yes. Yes. And so we have this like really interesting
00:38:13.710 --> 00:38:17.869
moment here because of course we have Trina and
00:38:17.869 --> 00:38:22.630
Pryor. Nope. I got those wrong. Tynan. Tynan
00:38:22.630 --> 00:38:27.949
and Luca. Too many names are in my head right
00:38:27.949 --> 00:38:29.650
now. Tynan and Luca. It's okay. They're about
00:38:29.650 --> 00:38:33.570
to be winnowed down. So you don't have to remember.
00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:37.380
As many. No, this is true. Who are both saying
00:38:37.380 --> 00:38:39.960
these horrible negative things. And then we have
00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:41.659
the group that are saying the positive things.
00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:43.719
Clearly we know that most of the positive or
00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:46.280
all the positives are doing pretty okay, right?
00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:49.860
But we have this distinction here between Tynan
00:38:49.860 --> 00:38:56.699
and Luca. Because really, both of them are, Tynan's
00:38:56.699 --> 00:38:58.880
really the worst one here, but Luca we know is
00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:01.340
going to be the one that goes, right? And so
00:39:01.340 --> 00:39:04.659
I make this comment here. They're all together
00:39:04.659 --> 00:39:08.340
clustered up at this moment. So the dragons that
00:39:08.340 --> 00:39:10.820
are around this section are not doing anything.
00:39:11.239 --> 00:39:14.000
I would also speculate that some of the conversation,
00:39:14.260 --> 00:39:15.960
not all of the conversation, but some of the
00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:18.440
conversation that we're hearing was not uncommon
00:39:18.440 --> 00:39:22.079
for other squads coming up to this area, right?
00:39:22.219 --> 00:39:25.719
Sure. Some level of disbelief and... Like, what
00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:29.769
the fuck? Yeah. Yeah. And so my interpretation
00:39:29.769 --> 00:39:32.849
is the dragons that are around Indarna are not
00:39:32.849 --> 00:39:35.349
only kind of a little bit used to this, but then
00:39:35.349 --> 00:39:38.130
also are hearing Indarna say, that's the girl
00:39:38.130 --> 00:39:41.530
I came here for. Torch them and I will start
00:39:41.530 --> 00:39:47.110
tearing scales off of you as fast as I can. Yeah,
00:39:47.130 --> 00:39:48.650
that's a great point because we do know that
00:39:48.650 --> 00:39:53.750
she hatched specifically for Violet. Right. And
00:39:53.750 --> 00:39:57.510
then the next thing that we have here is... Tynan
00:39:57.510 --> 00:40:00.690
pushes past Pryor to start down the path, commenting
00:40:00.690 --> 00:40:02.829
on the fact that Pryor can't make up any decisions.
00:40:03.210 --> 00:40:05.869
And so the only conclusion I can come to here
00:40:05.869 --> 00:40:08.570
as to why Tynan was not torched by the other
00:40:08.570 --> 00:40:12.210
dragons as he went back down the path was simply
00:40:12.210 --> 00:40:14.849
because he was so far away from Violet in the
00:40:14.849 --> 00:40:18.369
order that he didn't have any inspiration to
00:40:18.369 --> 00:40:20.130
be negative and he was just doing his whole,
00:40:20.230 --> 00:40:22.909
I'm going to focus on me and be selfish and try
00:40:22.909 --> 00:40:25.090
to figure out which dragon is mine because I'm
00:40:25.090 --> 00:40:28.639
superior and I'm a... Yeah, I'm sorry. Versus
00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:32.079
Luca is actually near the back with Violet and
00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:35.400
the crew, which means that she has this opportunity
00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:37.900
to be nasty. And that's my thing is I think that
00:40:37.900 --> 00:40:40.559
they all were, a few of them were on a one strike
00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:44.320
notice. Give me one reason to burn you and the
00:40:44.320 --> 00:40:47.619
dragons along the rest of the line will take
00:40:47.619 --> 00:40:51.099
care of it for us. And the only reason Tynan
00:40:51.099 --> 00:40:53.440
didn't get torched is because he was smart enough
00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:57.340
to go first and get away from Violet. Yeah, I
00:40:57.340 --> 00:41:02.159
think that's a good point. Thus, as far as I
00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:07.019
have notes, endeth the conversation regarding
00:41:07.019 --> 00:41:11.840
Indarna. On our walk back down the path, we are
00:41:11.840 --> 00:41:13.780
halfway through our leisurely walk through the
00:41:13.780 --> 00:41:17.789
Meadow of Death. We get Luca saying that the
00:41:17.789 --> 00:41:21.570
dragons are, to her, underwhelming. And I love
00:41:21.570 --> 00:41:24.869
Rhi's immediate response back. Like, this isn't
00:41:24.869 --> 00:41:27.230
stressful enough without you insulting them.
00:41:28.130 --> 00:41:31.809
Yeah. Like, it's like they're asking to die.
00:41:32.030 --> 00:41:36.070
I'm like, what? What are you? Like, there's a
00:41:36.070 --> 00:41:37.989
difference between being like, okay, you need
00:41:37.989 --> 00:41:40.489
to, like, project, like, confidence. And, you
00:41:40.489 --> 00:41:43.090
know, like, you're brave and whatever. And it's
00:41:43.090 --> 00:41:45.590
like, there's a difference between being like,
00:41:45.769 --> 00:41:48.110
oh, okay, I can handle this. And being like,
00:41:48.210 --> 00:41:50.010
yeah, honestly, it's not even that impressive.
00:41:50.769 --> 00:41:56.610
It's giving real red shirt vibes. I get that
00:41:56.610 --> 00:42:00.489
reference. Yes. And then we enter what I believe
00:42:00.489 --> 00:42:03.800
to be the actual. kind of more impressive aspect
00:42:03.800 --> 00:42:05.920
of this chapter, which is the discussion with
00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:09.679
regard to Wyvern. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. Because
00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:12.219
as I was going through this, and I think the
00:42:12.219 --> 00:42:14.420
same thing every time I come to this section
00:42:14.420 --> 00:42:20.780
of the story, they already know so fucking much
00:42:20.780 --> 00:42:24.539
and don't even realize it, right? Yes. Yeah.
00:42:25.239 --> 00:42:28.019
And so we get this back and forth of, well, you
00:42:28.019 --> 00:42:29.719
don't know what a wyvern is. It's folklore. But
00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:31.860
then they come in that they are bigger than dragons,
00:42:32.019 --> 00:42:34.300
two feet instead of four, razor sharp feathers
00:42:34.300 --> 00:42:38.000
down their neck, and a penchant for going after
00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:40.420
humans. It says that they like the taste of humans,
00:42:40.500 --> 00:42:43.219
but I rephrase that to a penchant for going after
00:42:43.219 --> 00:42:47.070
humans. Probably, yeah. I kind of have this headcanon
00:42:47.070 --> 00:42:49.329
that dragons don't like eating things that can
00:42:49.329 --> 00:42:54.429
actually communicate in complete sentences. Except
00:42:54.429 --> 00:42:57.889
for Andarna. Because she has to be reminded that
00:42:57.889 --> 00:43:02.650
we do not eat our allies. Young dragons might
00:43:02.650 --> 00:43:06.469
be a fun exception. It comes with maturity. Yes.
00:43:06.730 --> 00:43:09.670
And so it's my understanding that dragons have
00:43:09.670 --> 00:43:11.789
no desire to kill humans unless they have to.
00:43:12.710 --> 00:43:16.820
But we know that wyvern are... tools not sentience
00:43:16.820 --> 00:43:19.719
and so it would make sense that they would have
00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:22.119
a penchant for going after humans right the way
00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:24.539
they would be known for attacking humans or eating
00:43:24.539 --> 00:43:27.760
humans but then what i love about this is that's
00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:29.840
all coming from violet our girl violet we already
00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:32.659
know that she has a pretty decent source for
00:43:32.659 --> 00:43:36.219
information with regard to wyvern what surprises
00:43:36.219 --> 00:43:41.059
me to hell and back is our girl re Their eerie
00:43:41.059 --> 00:43:44.400
-eyed Venon riders would take us prisoner if
00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:48.579
we took trees we weren't allowed to have. And
00:43:48.579 --> 00:43:51.679
then later, she comes back with, did he tell
00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:54.860
you people supposedly only turn into Venon if
00:43:54.860 --> 00:43:58.760
they channel directly from the source? So Rhiannon
00:43:58.760 --> 00:44:01.679
already knows almost as much as Violet does with
00:44:01.679 --> 00:44:05.860
regard to Wyvern and Venon, which is insane.
00:44:06.019 --> 00:44:09.389
Sorry. And I'm just like, I wonder what the dragons
00:44:09.389 --> 00:44:11.010
are thinking. Like, what's going through their
00:44:11.010 --> 00:44:12.929
head as they're hearing this conversation? You
00:44:12.929 --> 00:44:16.769
know what I mean? Like, uh -oh, uh -oh. Or are
00:44:16.769 --> 00:44:19.530
they like, yes, yes, good, I'm glad you know.
00:44:20.730 --> 00:44:24.210
It's probably a mix. Yeah, yeah, some on each.
00:44:24.289 --> 00:44:26.889
And then, like, flashing this forward to when
00:44:26.889 --> 00:44:29.389
the squad actually gets confirmation that Wyvern
00:44:29.389 --> 00:44:31.469
exists, when Violet finally confesses to the
00:44:31.469 --> 00:44:33.510
squad, and they check with the dragons, and those
00:44:33.510 --> 00:44:36.150
dragons are shocked that they actually know.
00:44:37.050 --> 00:44:39.730
Yet the dragons that bonded these cadets are
00:44:39.730 --> 00:44:42.130
literally in this valley, probably capable of
00:44:42.130 --> 00:44:44.269
hearing any conversation the entire length of
00:44:44.269 --> 00:44:47.789
the valley. Oh, yeah. But, yeah, I guess it's
00:44:47.789 --> 00:44:50.250
the difference between, like, knowing of, like,
00:44:50.269 --> 00:44:52.849
unicorns and then finding out that they're, like,
00:44:52.929 --> 00:44:55.409
oh, you actually know they're real now. Well,
00:44:55.590 --> 00:45:01.610
okay. Yeah, but then it's... I don't know if
00:45:01.610 --> 00:45:03.969
I completely agree with that because it's like
00:45:03.969 --> 00:45:08.250
the dragons know unicorns exist. And so it's
00:45:08.250 --> 00:45:11.269
I guess it's almost like in our world hearing
00:45:11.269 --> 00:45:15.070
about the giant squid. And then, oh, shit. Ten
00:45:15.070 --> 00:45:17.070
years ago, we figured out that the giant squid
00:45:17.070 --> 00:45:21.309
is actually real. Does that I mean, I don't like
00:45:21.309 --> 00:45:23.530
for the purposes of my point, I don't really
00:45:23.530 --> 00:45:25.110
feel like there's a difference. It's just like
00:45:25.110 --> 00:45:28.250
the difference. The difference isn't like. oh
00:45:28.250 --> 00:45:30.429
you've heard of this con like yeah it's not that
00:45:30.429 --> 00:45:32.550
they care if you've heard of the concept it's
00:45:32.550 --> 00:45:34.750
like oh but now you know that if it's real or
00:45:34.750 --> 00:45:37.590
not like i didn't realize that you'd caught on
00:45:37.590 --> 00:45:42.840
very fair okay And then we get this fun little
00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:45.900
headcanon. I still believe to it. Like, I know
00:45:45.900 --> 00:45:48.420
we've had so many debates. Has Mama Sorengale
00:45:48.420 --> 00:45:51.460
turned or not? Is Mama Sorengale a Venon or not?
00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:56.280
If Mama Sorengale were a Venon, this would be
00:45:56.280 --> 00:45:58.739
evidence towards it. We have this moment where
00:45:58.739 --> 00:46:01.400
she comes in with red -ridden eyes that Violet
00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:05.300
describes as bloodshot. And... screams her little
00:46:05.300 --> 00:46:07.500
head off because there's a Venon to which all
00:46:07.500 --> 00:46:10.079
of the guards come running so part of me wonders
00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:14.039
of like what captain in the infantry is aware
00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:17.099
that Venon exists and is like shit that's not
00:46:17.099 --> 00:46:21.559
supposed to be there run yeah yeah I wrote okay
00:46:21.559 --> 00:46:24.340
but were they really bloodshot because I'm like
00:46:24.340 --> 00:46:30.260
maybe I don't know. She just had really bad allergies
00:46:30.260 --> 00:46:33.400
that day. Or, I mean, the explanation being that
00:46:33.400 --> 00:46:36.559
she was just exhausted. I've just never seen
00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:39.019
eyes actually be red from exhaustion. Same. I've
00:46:39.019 --> 00:46:41.099
seen them be red from lots of other things. I
00:46:41.099 --> 00:46:43.079
was going to say exhaustion, especially if you,
00:46:43.139 --> 00:46:47.320
like, it usually requires a full 24 hours awake
00:46:47.320 --> 00:46:50.559
to get to approaching bloodshot eyes from exhaustion,
00:46:50.739 --> 00:46:53.139
but mine do it really hard at the 24 -hour mark.
00:46:55.050 --> 00:46:57.210
But you're right. Allergies are also a thing.
00:46:57.329 --> 00:46:59.929
And for me, living over here where I live right
00:46:59.929 --> 00:47:03.050
now, my allergies have decided to go haywire
00:47:03.050 --> 00:47:06.289
the last couple of weeks. And so now I'm on every
00:47:06.289 --> 00:47:08.789
allergy medication under the sun to keep my eyes
00:47:08.789 --> 00:47:12.570
from going bloodshot. Or my alternative suggestion
00:47:12.570 --> 00:47:15.349
is that maybe her contacts were just irritating
00:47:15.349 --> 00:47:19.610
her eyes. Because that's why my eyes usually
00:47:19.610 --> 00:47:26.280
get red. Or she's a fanatic. Yes. There can be
00:47:26.280 --> 00:47:29.000
many reasons, but we like that one the most.
00:47:31.139 --> 00:47:33.440
And then, of course, we get this back and forth
00:47:33.440 --> 00:47:36.360
about how it's border village nonsense before
00:47:36.360 --> 00:47:38.739
Reed decides to prod Pryor and say, you can walk
00:47:38.739 --> 00:47:40.860
a little faster up there if you want. And we
00:47:40.860 --> 00:47:43.139
get his trepidation. Maybe I should, maybe I
00:47:43.139 --> 00:47:45.340
shouldn't. And this is the one moment where I'm
00:47:45.340 --> 00:47:48.099
just kind of like, of course it's a red that
00:47:48.099 --> 00:47:51.739
decides that this is not allowed to stand. Yep,
00:47:51.739 --> 00:47:57.900
classic red. And we lose Pryor. First death,
00:47:58.139 --> 00:48:01.420
to our knowledge, well, I guess not the first
00:48:01.420 --> 00:48:02.940
death, because we heard about someone getting
00:48:02.940 --> 00:48:06.199
burned earlier, before they went into the...
00:48:06.199 --> 00:48:08.940
I've looked ahead to see how many people died
00:48:08.940 --> 00:48:11.320
during this little leisurely stroll through the
00:48:11.320 --> 00:48:14.219
meadow, and... We get a number in the next chapter.
00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:16.699
Yes, would you guys like me to share it now?
00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:22.679
Sure. 22 people. Out of the quadrant end up getting
00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:25.460
burned on this walk. Yep. And we witnessed two
00:48:25.460 --> 00:48:30.460
of them. With a third in the background. Yes.
00:48:30.619 --> 00:48:32.739
I have a note when we get to that in the next
00:48:32.739 --> 00:48:35.059
chapter that it's like, unless they died in the
00:48:35.059 --> 00:48:38.500
two days between then. Or the day and a half
00:48:38.500 --> 00:48:40.719
or whatever. But I don't, yeah. I like to just
00:48:40.719 --> 00:48:43.019
say that. Unlikely. I thought this was the day
00:48:43.019 --> 00:48:45.059
before. I thought you present and then the next
00:48:45.059 --> 00:48:47.679
day you walk into the flight field. I thought
00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:49.539
that too, but when I was writing notes for the
00:48:49.539 --> 00:48:53.760
chapter, it says... Yeah, what day is presentation?
00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:59.000
It's like two days after. Because, yeah, threshing
00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:04.460
is October 1st. It definitely makes it seem like
00:49:04.460 --> 00:49:06.380
presentation and gauntlet happen on the same
00:49:06.380 --> 00:49:07.860
day, because the morning is gauntlet and the
00:49:07.860 --> 00:49:10.139
afternoon is presentation. Yeah, those are the
00:49:10.139 --> 00:49:13.260
same day, but then when is threshing? Oh, I found
00:49:13.260 --> 00:49:16.699
it. So... Dane tried to talk her into a brown.
00:49:16.860 --> 00:49:18.940
I've only talked to him once in the past two
00:49:18.940 --> 00:49:22.739
days since presentation. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
00:49:22.780 --> 00:49:25.119
Okay. Yeah. So I'm just made like a little note,
00:49:25.179 --> 00:49:28.739
like it could have been from some unrelated thing,
00:49:28.780 --> 00:49:31.800
but I most likely, yes. I had a little bit of
00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:34.800
that thought of my mind too, of what happens
00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:37.219
if you go through presentation and then you hear
00:49:37.219 --> 00:49:39.820
through the scuttlebutt of the squadron that
00:49:39.820 --> 00:49:44.650
the squadrons. hear through the gossip that someone
00:49:44.650 --> 00:49:46.869
else has their eye on the same dragon as you,
00:49:47.010 --> 00:49:50.130
would it be considered unreasonable to quietly
00:49:50.130 --> 00:49:54.590
take them out in an undisclosed location? I don't
00:49:54.590 --> 00:49:56.190
think so. I'm sure it's happened. As long as
00:49:56.190 --> 00:49:57.969
they're not sleeping, I think it's totally chill.
00:49:59.010 --> 00:50:03.010
Yeah. And so, I see your point. They could have
00:50:03.010 --> 00:50:05.210
died by other ways, but I like the headcanon
00:50:05.210 --> 00:50:08.469
that the dragons took out 22 riders. Or cadets.
00:50:08.469 --> 00:50:10.469
Agreed. They're Swifties. They don't know about
00:50:10.469 --> 00:50:20.409
you. They are feeling 22. Okay, hold. I have
00:50:20.409 --> 00:50:22.730
the playlist. Oh, but I don't have the, I took
00:50:22.730 --> 00:50:27.750
out all the Taylor Swift songs. John, I don't
00:50:27.750 --> 00:50:33.170
think we're friends anymore. You're being excommunicated.
00:50:33.170 --> 00:50:38.010
Rebecca is such a huge Swifty. Oh my God. You
00:50:38.010 --> 00:50:40.980
can't take out the Taylor Swift songs. But I
00:50:40.980 --> 00:50:44.260
think the song 22 was in the playlist for this
00:50:44.260 --> 00:50:48.659
book. Amazing. Headcanon just got reinforced.
00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:51.500
I can't wait till we finish this book and we
00:50:51.500 --> 00:50:54.760
can dive into that for a bonus episode. I have
00:50:54.760 --> 00:50:56.860
not looked at the playlist yet. I haven't either.
00:50:57.159 --> 00:51:01.079
Yeah, I built my own version of them in my phone
00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:03.099
because I wanted to be able to listen to them.
00:51:03.579 --> 00:51:09.059
But I can't. Our girl Rebecca Yaros is a Swifty.
00:51:09.789 --> 00:51:14.190
To extreme measures. And I can kind of excuse
00:51:14.190 --> 00:51:17.599
you cutting out more of the, like... teeny bopper
00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:20.460
Taylor Swift songs. Like I get it, especially
00:51:20.460 --> 00:51:22.300
they're played on the radio all the time. They
00:51:22.300 --> 00:51:25.900
can be a little much. Taylor Swift is not very
00:51:25.900 --> 00:51:31.300
good at selecting singles because her discography
00:51:31.300 --> 00:51:34.619
is much, much better than 22 and Shake It Off.
00:51:34.920 --> 00:51:38.940
And yeah, in the fandom, we have a lot of gripes
00:51:38.940 --> 00:51:41.179
on the singles that she chooses because there
00:51:41.179 --> 00:51:43.900
is much better. They are the ones that fit the
00:51:43.900 --> 00:51:47.030
most standard pop vibe. which is probably what
00:51:47.030 --> 00:51:48.650
she's like, ah, these will probably do best on
00:51:48.650 --> 00:51:50.789
the radio. Yeah. Even if they're not actually
00:51:50.789 --> 00:51:53.329
the best songs. Yeah. I feel like that's normal
00:51:53.329 --> 00:51:56.090
for most artists. I'm looking to see if I kept
00:51:56.090 --> 00:51:58.849
any of the civil. I didn't keep any of the Taylor
00:51:58.849 --> 00:52:03.829
Swift in this. John, I, I, one, one of these
00:52:03.829 --> 00:52:08.440
days I am going to convert you. I will. Like
00:52:08.440 --> 00:52:11.360
I said, when it comes to the playlists for Onyx
00:52:11.360 --> 00:52:13.400
Storm, I kept a couple of them, but not many.
00:52:13.480 --> 00:52:15.760
Like, Who's Afraid of Little Old Me? That one
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:19.239
is... That's such a bop. Oh, I love that song.
00:52:19.780 --> 00:52:23.059
There's another one, though. Willow. Willow and...
00:52:23.059 --> 00:52:27.360
Willow's excellent. Oh, I love Willow. John,
00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:29.559
I think that you would really like Reputation.
00:52:29.719 --> 00:52:32.400
I'm a Reputation girly. Peek Behind the Curtain,
00:52:32.440 --> 00:52:34.860
we're recording May 26th. There's actually a
00:52:34.860 --> 00:52:37.000
rumor that she's going to drop or announce...
00:52:37.210 --> 00:52:39.610
reputation taylor's version today so far i haven't
00:52:39.610 --> 00:52:41.869
seen anything so probably not we probably were
00:52:41.869 --> 00:52:44.949
all just clowning again um however i am a reputation
00:52:44.949 --> 00:52:47.070
girly through and through it is my favorite album
00:52:47.070 --> 00:52:49.710
and john i think that you would dig it it's very
00:52:49.710 --> 00:52:53.809
sexy see and i like what i've started to get
00:52:53.809 --> 00:52:56.230
into from taylor swift is not the sexy it's when
00:52:56.230 --> 00:53:00.409
she actually like if you're gonna write a breakup
00:53:00.409 --> 00:53:02.730
song it would be really nice if every single
00:53:02.730 --> 00:53:07.929
breakup song wasn't in a major key Like, sometimes
00:53:07.929 --> 00:53:12.389
a breakup is just sad. I think that is a gross
00:53:12.389 --> 00:53:16.630
oversimplification. So many of them are minor.
00:53:17.369 --> 00:53:20.610
If you've actually listened to a lot of her discography.
00:53:21.130 --> 00:53:23.429
Well, and that's where I'm like, the songs that
00:53:23.429 --> 00:53:25.530
are starting to get to me are the post -Brawn
00:53:25.530 --> 00:53:27.989
songs where she, like, went back and started
00:53:27.989 --> 00:53:31.739
re -evaluating. What it was like to live through
00:53:31.739 --> 00:53:34.739
that time is what I've kind of interpreted them
00:53:34.739 --> 00:53:37.199
as. And that is where it starts to get a lot
00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:40.239
more interesting to me. Okay. We're not going
00:53:40.239 --> 00:53:42.280
to make it through this chapter by our end time
00:53:42.280 --> 00:53:44.880
if we don't keep going. We have three hours.
00:53:45.019 --> 00:53:50.300
Let's go. So, of course, Pryor is dead and we
00:53:50.300 --> 00:53:52.440
have to make sure that the fire is out before
00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:57.489
we keep walking. Bye, Pryor. and we get this
00:53:57.489 --> 00:54:00.690
comment holy shit are we insignificant you'd
00:54:00.690 --> 00:54:02.809
think that they'd get more like stop drop and
00:54:02.809 --> 00:54:07.570
roll lessons which is so funny because i feel
00:54:07.570 --> 00:54:09.730
like we got so many stop drop and roll lessons
00:54:09.730 --> 00:54:12.929
as kids and i'm like when will i ever use this
00:54:12.929 --> 00:54:15.989
how often will someone catch on fire i thought
00:54:15.989 --> 00:54:18.449
catching on fire was going to be a bigger problem
00:54:18.449 --> 00:54:21.570
that and quicksand i'm like these are real issues
00:54:21.570 --> 00:54:24.769
one of the only times i got in trouble as a kid
00:54:25.739 --> 00:54:29.760
because I was such a rule follower, was we went
00:54:29.760 --> 00:54:31.659
on this field trip to the fire station, and we
00:54:31.659 --> 00:54:34.800
were all in the garage and learning about stop,
00:54:34.820 --> 00:54:36.840
drop, and roll, and they wanted us all to practice
00:54:36.840 --> 00:54:40.920
stop, drop, and roll on the floor. And I was
00:54:40.920 --> 00:54:43.719
like, I don't want to do that. Not because of
00:54:43.719 --> 00:54:45.880
dirt or anything. I was a dirty child. It was
00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:49.820
fine. But because I was like, this looks so silly
00:54:49.820 --> 00:54:52.780
and dumb. I don't want to look silly and dumb
00:54:52.780 --> 00:54:54.860
like everyone else. So I'm just going to stand
00:54:54.860 --> 00:54:57.960
here. And instead of explaining to me, like,
00:54:57.960 --> 00:55:00.460
we're helping you build the muscle memory so
00:55:00.460 --> 00:55:02.400
that in an emergency, you don't have to think
00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:06.019
about it. And practice helps ingrain it into
00:55:06.019 --> 00:55:10.000
your habits. I just got in trouble and I couldn't
00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:13.260
go to recess like the next day until I did it.
00:55:13.480 --> 00:55:20.619
Oh, my God. Oh, Cassie. But, you know, I was
00:55:20.619 --> 00:55:22.739
feeling really stubborn and I was like, I don't
00:55:22.739 --> 00:55:25.980
think this, like, I understand the concept. I
00:55:25.980 --> 00:55:27.739
don't need to do it and look stupid in front
00:55:27.739 --> 00:55:30.179
of everyone just because everyone else is. Yeah.
00:55:30.639 --> 00:55:32.739
Just because everyone else is rolling off a cliff.
00:55:35.380 --> 00:55:38.739
Everyone else is stop, drop, and rolling off
00:55:38.739 --> 00:55:45.860
a cliff. Oh, okay. That sounds like the next
00:55:45.860 --> 00:55:48.840
music hit. Stop, drop, and roll off a cliff.
00:55:51.860 --> 00:55:56.179
Oh, goodness. Of course, Luca has to chime in
00:55:56.179 --> 00:55:59.579
with, oh, my God, the smell, which I do give
00:55:59.579 --> 00:56:02.000
Vi some credit here. There is such a thing as
00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:04.119
decency. I understand the smell is bad, but you
00:56:04.119 --> 00:56:05.940
just watched a human get burned in front of you,
00:56:05.960 --> 00:56:07.860
basically. It's like when someone farts. Like,
00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:10.079
don't say anything about it. Just, like, let
00:56:10.079 --> 00:56:14.780
it be. Or compliment them on the volume and breadth.
00:56:15.610 --> 00:56:21.769
Yes, that too. You have to throw on this. We
00:56:21.769 --> 00:56:24.469
enter what will be the most stressful moment
00:56:24.469 --> 00:56:28.710
of the entire walk when the dragons choose to
00:56:28.710 --> 00:56:34.070
engage. Yep. And so, of course, we have our little
00:56:34.070 --> 00:56:37.429
moment with Vi here where she is. surrounded
00:56:37.429 --> 00:56:41.230
by green dragons sniffing and chortling and nudging
00:56:41.230 --> 00:56:43.969
and getting all up in her business until she
00:56:43.969 --> 00:56:46.849
realizes oh shit you're smelling the green dragon
00:56:46.849 --> 00:56:49.429
scales that are hidden in my armor that no one
00:56:49.429 --> 00:56:52.650
else can see it's like when you have like cat
00:56:52.650 --> 00:56:54.530
treats or catnip in your pocket and you just
00:56:54.530 --> 00:56:57.829
get swarmed yeah like sniff sniff sniff sniff
00:56:57.829 --> 00:57:05.019
sniff sniff nose butt Our girl Vi does have a
00:57:05.019 --> 00:57:06.880
moment where she shouts in one of their ears,
00:57:06.980 --> 00:57:10.780
only to realize that she did so. Oops, sorry.
00:57:11.000 --> 00:57:14.219
And explains that she is Mira's sister, Violet,
00:57:14.219 --> 00:57:17.239
that Mira made the armor for her, and that it
00:57:17.239 --> 00:57:20.420
has kept her alive, even though it is a secret.
00:57:21.340 --> 00:57:24.039
I love that the reaction she gets from one is
00:57:24.039 --> 00:57:26.739
a blink, and the other is a sniff. A really loud
00:57:26.739 --> 00:57:32.460
sniff. Like, huh, never thought of that. We get
00:57:32.460 --> 00:57:35.360
this wonderful comment here. Professor K already
00:57:35.360 --> 00:57:38.179
taught us every way to approach a dragon, exactly
00:57:38.179 --> 00:57:42.920
zero ways to disengage one. Yeah, maybe we should
00:57:42.920 --> 00:57:45.940
add that to the lesson plan. Seems important.
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As they retreat, Rhiannon and, I think we got
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Riddick on the other side right now, run up to
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Violet and try to reassure her figuring out what's
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happening here. And Violet does manage to share
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one secret with Rhi here, disclosing the dragon
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armor she wears. I also love this other comment.
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Other than having a few years shaved off my life,
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she's fine. Yep. Been there, girl. Been there.
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Better comparison here. It's not actually like
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catnip or cat treats. It's like when you go on
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a walk and you pet a street cat and then you
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come home and your cats are like. you cheating
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bastard wrong dogs are even worse about it if
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you go pet dogs on a walk and then come home
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they will like sit on top of you and sniff every
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little ounce of it and then spend the rest of
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the day pouting yep yep can attest riddick tunes
00:58:42.130 --> 00:58:46.599
in with i think i just shat myself If you're
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going to shit yourself when they get that close
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to your friend, what are you going to do when
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one of them decides to get up close with you?
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He's going to lose his breakfast in the next
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chapter. More bodily excretions. Bodily fluids
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coming out of every orifice. Cheers to that.
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And then, of course, Luca has to chime in here
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saying that she thought Violet was going to get
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eaten, wouldn't have blamed the dragons if they'd
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done it. And when everyone calls her out on it,
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she says what? She's obviously the weakest link
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after Pryor. Boo. And wouldn't blame the dragons
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for snuffing her out. And that's when we get
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a nice blast of heat from behind. Speaking of
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snuffing. Bum, bum, bum. Another one bites the
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dust. And then we get Riddick time chiming in.
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Guess the dragons think she's insufferable too.
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So what's notable here is going into Gauntlet,
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they were basically untouched. They hadn't lost
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a single cadet. Editing Abby here to say, except
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for Orly. Now they are down to six. They've lost
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two and the dragons took both of them. Yeah.
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Thus bringeth an end to our chapter. I don't
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know why I keep using this. The bringeth an end.
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You know what? I love it. It's great. Wow. That
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was entirely too long for that sort of a, Oh
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shit. Two and a half hours. I mean, some of that
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was just talking and that can get cut out. So
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take off like 20 minutes of today. good lord
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okay so i think that we should just go ahead
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and end it here so that will do it for us for
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this chapter and until the next one goodbye Thank
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you so much for listening to this episode of
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guys we've been recording for almost two hours
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this is supposed to be a short chapter and a
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short shorter episode i don't girl girl i've
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been trying okay no i'm not blaming you at all
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i'm i'm blaming all of you It's a joint effort.
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It is more than a joint. And also, when did we
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ever think that threshing and the presentation
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and everything else were going to be short episodes?
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I know. This podcast discusses a nonstop thrilling
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the Wing Raiders. Welcome to the Wing Raiders,
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where we deep dive into the Empyrean series chapter
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by chapter, theorize and overanalyze. I'm Abby.
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I'm John. And today we are covering Fourth Wing
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Chapter 12, Part 2. Here is your friendly reminder
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that all published material is fair game, so
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please continue at your own risk. And we just
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jump right into where we left off from Part 1.
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So without further ado, John is going to get
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back into the recap. We get this amazing comparison
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from Violet that there's a couple of, I think
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it was greens, I just looked away from the line.
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Nope, a set of browns that are slightly smaller
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than her mother's Amster, but not by much. So,
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like, Violet is very adequately and intimately
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aware of Amster's size and physique and look
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and everything. And so I have this image in my
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brain. Of Mama Sorengale popping out babies and
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every time she gives birth to a child, at some
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point having to hike to wherever Aimsir can meet
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her so that she can present the baby before Aimsir.
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Like, yeah, I just, I had this image of toddlers
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running around dragging this Aimsir and Aimsir
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having to be like, I understand they're your
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children, but I'm going to step on one of them.
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They're like little bugs. While I love the headcanon,
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I do want to point out that in, I believe, chapter
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three, when they get the dragons on the wall,
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she says, even though I've grown up around this,
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they've never let me get this close. That she
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remembers. Do you remember everything that happens
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the day you were born? I mean, not much before
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I turned three. I know. And so that's like, she's
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clearly Violet is aware of Aimsor, even if she's
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not aware of other dragons. And so that's just
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my question is like, is my headcanon accurate
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that once riders start having children, the dragons
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will show some interest in the rider's progeny?
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I don't know. Like, would they care? I kind of
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feel like they're like, that's not my rider.
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I don't care. Yeah, but your writer made that
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shit. So? Okay. I just, I can see them being
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very disinterested because they didn't make any
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choices about it. If we're likening dragons to
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cats, I will tell you that when I brought home
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my babies, my dogs were thrilled and all up on
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them and all up on me like, oh my god, mom, you
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did so good. And my cats are like, um. okay but
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are you going to pet me so if we're going if
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we're going with that comparison they wouldn't
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care okay i'm just like can you imagine having
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this dragon that's been in your mind for years
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and you're so intimately connected with each
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other and then you become pregnant and it's like
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oh great I'll see you in a couple of years when
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you're done with that problem. They might not,
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like, completely detach from their, like, they
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might still be around. I'm just envisioning Amesir
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in Mamasaur and Gil's brain when she's pushing,
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like, you will not die from this! Yeah, I believe
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that. Either way, like, I don't believe that
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a dragon can be so, like, connected and intertwined
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with their rider. And that... Something like
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this would happen in the writer's lives and the
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dragons would not have some involvement, even
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if it wasn't an interest to see the baby, but
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still a willingness to let their writer show
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them the baby. Sure. Because you gave birth to
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two little kids. I'm pretty sure you enjoyed
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showing the baby to everybody in the day after.
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Yes. Yes. So I don't know. It's just a weird
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headcanon that I've had going in my brain for
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quite a while now. I'm just picturing when you,
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like, hand your cats things to sniff, and they're
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like, oh, yeah, I really want to sniff it. Oh,
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no, that's boring. Yeah. Okay, I'm done. And
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it's really funny to me, because sentence by
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sentence, it's two different perspectives again.
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Violet, looking at a set of browns and thinking,
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heh, you're kind of small compared to Aimsir.
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And then you got Rhiannon, like, I know I saw
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the dragons at Parapet, but they are bigger than
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I thought they'd be. It's just amazing. And then
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Violet, the queen of deflection here, is like,
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so what about that niece or nephew? Right, it's
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two options. Either I can enthrall you with a
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long story of history that you will not remember
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a detail of, or you can do some talking. Yep,
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yep, yep. I do want to say that talking about
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technology is that the midwives of this fantasy
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world are able to tell with... pretty good accuracy
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the sex of the baby before the baby is born which
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i think is very interesting and i wonder how
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that is done and maybe if violet is pregnant
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we will find that out yes that as well but like
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there is a lot of historical accuracy to that
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concept there it's not like the documentation
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is so well founded that it's without dispute
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and people do like to try to throw some well
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they could just be making it up we don't know
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what really happened and back then doubt on historical
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records but through the years especially in medieval
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times there were a number of midwives or women
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who became known for their renowned ability to
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not only identify a woman who was pregnant but
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then being able to make such predictions through
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the pregnancy at various times with such accuracy
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and they weren't relying on weird voodoo a lot
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of them were listening to the baby inside the
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womb or like there's a superstition that when
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you have a boy you end up in that you carry low
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and I've seen it before you carry low and your
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stomach is out more than it normally is with
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other pregnancies like I've heard this I've also
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heard so many people talk about how they carried
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low and it was a girl it's not a perfect science
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usually carry low is more associated with size
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as the resident Parent. Person who has been pregnant.
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All of the old wives tales for both of my...
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boys were incorrect. All of them said I was having
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a girl both times. And that was heart rate. That
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was how you're carrying. That was whether you're
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having heartburn or not, whether you are craving
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sweet or salty foods. That one's bullshit. There's
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even like a pee one, like the acidity of your
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pee. And I tried that test. And that also said
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I was having a girl both times. And I have two
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boys as far as I know. So I mean, if they both
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come out as trans. later then i could be like
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okay well maybe this it was on as of now the
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the sweet and salty that one i know for a fact
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is no yeah there's a bunch of bullshit ones that
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are just for fun um yeah you know there's like
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the the chinese zodiac chart like a specific
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Like when your due date is and your birthday
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and it measures whatever, whatever. There's also
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one that was just fun to do, which was like a
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pendulum thing where you take a necklace and
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hold it over your stomach. And if it goes like,
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I can't remember which is which, of course, but
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if it goes side to side, it's one. And if it
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goes in a circle, it's the other. Oh, I heard
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counterclockwise was boy and clockwise was girl.
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Oh, no, I didn't hear that one. There's probably
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several versions. Yeah. Yeah. As we mentioned
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here, we have the realization that healers can
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usually make a pretty good guess when someone's
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along. And we get this back and forth about,
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like, this back and forth growing between Violet
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and Rihanna is how I'm going to describe it.
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It progresses into, it's a shame you can't hear
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from your family. And we hear exactly how Violet
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feels about this. And I don't entirely disagree
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with Violet on this stance. Which is like, it's
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bullshit. That's my fucking sibling. And whether
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or not I've had a chance to talk to them for
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a year, if they send me a letter, I'm probably
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going to feel the same after the year as I would
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before the year. Right? Yep. She specifically
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says that there are some bonds, or there are
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bonds that can't be broken, which is a very apt
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thing to say when we're talking about presentation
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and dragons. And two books later, we have quite
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the experience that occurs. But yes, you're absolutely
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correct. I also think it's... It is an interesting
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rule, and I can see it more as being a rule for,
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like, love interests and friends and things like
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that. Because, yeah, I agree with Violet that
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not having correspondence from your family is
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not going to really affect you. Well, or even,
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like, I could maybe even see an argument of we
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don't want you writing to your parents and crying
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to mommy every other letter. As much as that's
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a horrible phrasing. They don't want them to
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look to their family for the support that they
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should be building for themselves, right? That's,
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yeah, that's also valid. It also really just
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makes me think of another Instagram person that
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I love following, the curly haired book talk
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guy that like did the whole series of videos
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of like, I don't understand people who are only
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children. If you... try to say someone is like
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your sibling to me and you haven't gone to fucking
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fist with them at least five times over the lifetime
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of your relationship i don't believe you if you
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and this person are not equally ready to annihilate
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each other and annihilate any person who so much
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as looks at them yes that's you are not actually
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someone's sibling and so ah makes me so happy
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I had a moment in the middle of that conversation
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where I felt Drew's influence in my brain. I
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haven't decided if it's welcome or not yet. But
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when she's talking about, like, so she's in the
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middle of starting this conversation and she's
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also like, oh, I'm trying not to make eye contact.
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And she's like. Breathe normally. Swallow the
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fear. And in my brain, I continued, Fear is the
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mind killer. And it will also get you real killed.
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Did Drew start reciting the Dune mantra, Fear
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is the little death that erases her? I can't
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remember it. The litany of fear. Yeah, the litany
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of fear. I don't... I think the last time that
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I heard him say this, he was facilitating our
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little neighborhood group, one of our meetings.
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And we usually do, we call it a land acknowledgement,
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but it's not always an acknowledgement. Sometimes
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it's like a fun fact about like a bit of relevant
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local native culture or something like that.
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And so the first time he didn't exactly know
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what, like how it worked. And the time before
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someone had brought in a prayer. And so so for
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his first time, he brought in the litany of fear
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and read that off. And it wasn't like not in
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keeping with some of the stuff we bring in. It
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was just very funny. I'm going to I'm going to
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read it here because I looked it up and there
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are maybe some readers. So what we're referencing
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is the. If you've watched the movie Dune, or
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obviously if any of the listeners have read the
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book Dune, then they know exactly what we're
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talking about. But it's the litany that the Bene
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Gesserit use to school fear as it occurs inside
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of them. So it's, I must not fear. Fear is the
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mind killer. Fear is the little death that brings
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total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will
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permit it to pass over me and through me. And
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when it has gone past, I will turn the inner
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eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone,
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there will be nothing. Only I will remain. I
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mean, it's pretty good. It's very fitting. It's
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very fitting. It is. It is. It is. I've heard
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people who have started to use it as like an
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anxiety mantra and are like, it's upsettingly
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helpful. I can see that. Absolutely. It is so
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helpful if you can actually fucking remember
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it all. I am so bad about remembering shit like
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that. This is where like the write your affirmations
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on a sticky note and put them on the mirror.
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Just put that on the mirror. Yo, I swear, I searched
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litany of fear and the second line was tattoo.
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And I'm like, yeah, I could see that all just
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in a line on my arm. Just read the forearm. Anytime
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I see something that causes me fear. Recite again,
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please. And again, we have Tynan deciding to
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interrupt the conversation and the bonding that's
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occurring with assholery ship. As he starts to
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make very inappropriate comparisons between Violet
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and her sister. Yeah. Only to be reminded by
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Violet that it's very, very, very likely that
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Mira would just kill him where he stood rather
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than deal with an ounce of his bullshit. and
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then he makes what has to be the lewdest comment
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ever made maybe i'll write a letter of my own
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once we get privileges bitch please that's almost
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like you're not ever getting privileges right
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like that was almost a your mom joke yeah i hate
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him And then, of course, Rhiannon, figuring out
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what was happening here, steps in again and continues
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the conversation about whether or not she'd like
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to have a nephew or a niece. I don't understand
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why we couldn't just just generically accept
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nibblings as the correct word here. I mean, it
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is kind of a weird word. Like, I wish we had
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a better one. I do, too. Normalize nibblings.
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Do we have a gender neutral for, like, uncle
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or aunt? Not really. Well, I mean, is there one
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that's like commonly used? No, I've heard people
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ask about this before and I haven't heard any
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real consensus of an answer. That is one of the
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few gender neutrals, yes, that I am not familiar
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with at all. But I will share this because I
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just saw it on social media. And I am entirely
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for this. You have Mr., Miss, and Mrs., right?
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But did you know that all of them are based off
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of the old English word magister? Which, believe
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it or not, is based off of the even older word
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mage. And so I am on the gender neutral Mr. Miss
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Mrs. is mage. I'm mage. I love that. Please cut
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my last name because I didn't mean to say it
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on podcast there. I'll cut it. I'll bleep it.
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I'll bleep it so we can keep the... Keep the
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mage. The commentary. Thank you. And so, yes,
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I am all for referring to people as mages because
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we need more magic in this world. Amen. Also,
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it sounds fancy. Like, when people are like,
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there's sir and madam, but then what do we call
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anyone else? And there's, like, people throw
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out random things that are usually, like, formal
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titles from, like, the military or whatever.
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But Mage feels formal enough. And cool. Yeah.
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Mr. and Mrs. and Mages. And again, Rhiannon's
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like, boys aren't too bad. Only have Violet chime
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in. And I'm like, are you sure? Case in point,
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Tynan. I love that you say that, because the
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example that we get is my brother and Dane, and
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it's basically just Dane. And I also want to
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comment, because you called this out during the
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epigraph here. We get this little note from...
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Violet's perspective here that the smell of sulfur
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has faded as though she has become used to it.
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Yep. I wonder if that is common as potential
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bonds start forming around you. I wonder if that,
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like, because as the dragons are walking along,
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they're... potentially like magic probing these
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writers and being like, do I like your magic
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feels right? Like I'm going to pick you up and
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do I like the feel of this magic? Do not make
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that face at me, Cassie. The number of times
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I've watched you touch a fabric to decide whether
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or not you like it. And the number of ways that
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I can describe the correct tongue texture of
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oat milk. I'm sorry. I was just picturing them,
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like, lifting someone's aura out of their body
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and, like, lifting it and placing it back. Right,
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just, like, bouncing it a little bit, jiggling
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it to see if they can hear the juices. This might
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be inappropriate, but I am breastfeeding my son,
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and I often forget which side I fed him last
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on, and so I do, like, a little, like, I weigh
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my breasts to see which one feels heavier. So,
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I feel we have validated that the dragons are
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definitely, like, magic probing a little bit
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here. Since all of us can describe one way or
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another that we've held something up and waited.
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You're lifting your boobs, I'm talking about
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oat milk on my tongue, and Cassie's over here
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with fabric. I mean... I'm sure there are more
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examples that we don't need to name. Yes. I just
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want to say that as the resident perfume addict,
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going nose blind is a pretty normal process if
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you've been smelling something constantly. So
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I don't know that this has to have anything to
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do with the magic or the bonding. I think it's
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happening regardless, but yeah. Yeah, you never
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know. Either way. And of course, Violet redirects
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back into, Dane's going to give me shit just
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like Amber Mavis did. Mm -hmm. Fucking Dane.
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Fucking Dane. And we get this lovely line. Is
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the way that the dragons stare at us scary as
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hell? Absolutely. But if they're here for the
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same shit, we are. So maybe they won't burn me.
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Mm -hmm. And we have notably passed the halfway
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mark. And Rhiannon brings the conversation back
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to a more personal note. She begins to wonder
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why Violet did not share the plans that Violet
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was creating to get through the gauntlet when
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Violet was making the plans. Why wasn't Violet
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open and forthright about the plan with the rope?
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Or even more so, the plan with the dagger? Because
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Rebecca had to keep it a secret from the reader
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so she couldn't have Violet go telling other
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people. Well, also, because this is one of Violet's
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key characteristics, is she is not going to bother
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other people. She's going to keep things close
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to her chest. And I'm like, I wrote down, get
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used to it, Rhi, because this is the first instance
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of many where she is not going to be confiding
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in you. And, like, I want to call out here, you're
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saying it's one of Violet's key characteristics?
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Oh, and Zayden's, if that's what we're talking
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about. Oh, oh, I want to, I can go further. I
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think that that's a key characteristic of every
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dragon rider we have met so far. Name a dragon
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rider who doesn't try to put the weight of the
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world on their shoulders. Who doesn't try to
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throw themselves into the middle of everything.
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Well... Yeah, but I feel like that's a little
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different than not confiding because we know
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I feel like Rhiannon is very, very upfront and,
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you know, turning towards her friends. And I
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would say even like Riddick and Sawyer are, too,
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where, yes, they're still going to, like, you
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know, take the world onto their shoulders. But
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I don't think that they're as inclined to try
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to do it by themselves. Yeah, that's about the
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secrets and doing it. So I'm going to call that
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one on. I'm going to call you on that one because
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Riddick. How do I want to phrase this? No, I'm
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going to start with Rhiannon. Rhiannon internalizes
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the actual act of being a squad leader all through
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the second and third book, right? Like, Rhiannon
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is on this constant struggle of these are my
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friends and I want to protect them, but I'm also
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their squad leader and it's my job to order them
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to the front line. Doesn't she have a couple
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conversations about that, though? No. Violet
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calls her on it and says, I know you're thinking
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it. Stop. But they never actually talk about
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it until we get to her perspective. And that's
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when her dragon basically starts calling her
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on it and saying, you can't constantly keep putting
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yourself responsible for people that are not
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currently in your direct line of command. Violet
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is not in your direct line of command in this
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mission. You can worry for her, but you cannot
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let it compromise you. The other one I was going
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to point out is like, Riddick goes out of his
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way to find some way to prove to the others that
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he is not just a class clown with the ability
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to, as we find out later, freeze a fucking wyvern
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to death. And so I feel like it is almost an
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inherent trait of being a dragon rider that you
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have to have the right mixture of ego and...
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I don't know what the right word is to throw
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yourself into solving whatever the problem is,
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even if it means throwing yourself on it. Hero
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syndrome? Hero syndrome. Super, super hero syndrome.
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I think hubris is the... The right word I'm looking
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for. You're right. It's also called the greater
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fool, but... I'll give you that they all try
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to protect each other by taking everything on.
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But she's... Violet says, I didn't want you to
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be an accomplice. And I was like, Isn't that
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what friends are supposed to be? Your accomplices?
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Your partners in crime? Your backup? They become
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her partners in crime. Right, like literally.
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Quite literally in many, many, many, many instances.
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So when she's talking about how basically protecting
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your friend by keeping secrets, it's just what
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friends do. And it's like, you know what they
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also do? Actually make each other accomplices.
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Yes. The quote I was looking for, and I love
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that I just keep quoting all of these other sources
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that are not our book, but this comes from the
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newsroom, which was written by Aaron Sorkin.
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I'm only going to use a small part of the quote.
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The greater fool is someone with the perfect
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blend of self -delusion and ego to think that
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he can succeed where others have failed. The
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quote ends with, this whole country was made
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by greater fools. So I'm not saying that it isn't
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valid. I'm not saying that it isn't something
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that happens. I'm just saying, I'm pretty sure
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that this whole, it's a dragon rider thing. It's
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a dragon rider thing. Nothing but a dragon rider.
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That's fair. Violet just has more secrets to
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keep. This is also true. And they impact other
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people more. And she has a very good, like Violet
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is smart and smart people do not have a hard
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time finding excuses to do something. Right.
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We're so good at rationalizing as a species in
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general. And then also it's like the smarter
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you are, the easier it is to rationalize dumb
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stuff. Right. And so even if the motivation really
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was I just didn't want people to know what I
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was going to do in case they shot me with an
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arrow as soon as I tried to do it. But really,
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her rationality is I didn't want I didn't want
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to drag you down with me. I didn't want to sully
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your name with my bad plans. Which is hilarious,
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because, like, do you think the dragons would
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have taken the time to question Rhiannon about
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whether or not she knew Violet was going to do
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that before they decided to start roasting someone?
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The whole thing does not pass the sniff check
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when you actually give it time to pass the sniff
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check. Yeah. But as we know, our characters are
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not really in a good place to test whether something
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passes the sniff check. They're too busy smelling
00:25:56.380 --> 00:25:59.660
sulfur. Of course, Rhiannon does ask that tell
00:25:59.660 --> 00:26:01.900
-all question that will become the key pivotal
00:26:01.900 --> 00:26:04.640
part of their relationship for a while now. Are
00:26:04.640 --> 00:26:08.119
you keeping any other secrets up there? Mm -hmm.
00:26:08.240 --> 00:26:12.319
Well, of course. Let me just redirect with philosophy.
00:26:13.480 --> 00:26:17.460
Intelligence. Poise. And really, that is quite
00:26:17.460 --> 00:26:21.819
a wonderful flirting line. Like, some guy asks
00:26:21.819 --> 00:26:23.779
if you're keeping any secrets from him and you
00:26:23.779 --> 00:26:26.200
can be like, well, does anyone really know everyone?
00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:30.960
And, like, such a flirty line. I'm sorry. It
00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:34.119
is. Only to have Rihanna totally call her on
00:26:34.119 --> 00:26:37.119
it. And then Violet, our girl Violet, decides
00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:39.460
instead she'll make a promise rather than, again,
00:26:39.500 --> 00:26:41.839
having to reveal that she is, in fact, keeping
00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:45.180
some secrets from some folks. And she makes the
00:26:45.180 --> 00:26:47.490
promise that if... If there is ever something
00:26:47.490 --> 00:26:49.930
that Rhiannon can do to help her, Violet will
00:26:49.930 --> 00:26:53.430
ask her to help her. She will not stop from letting
00:26:53.430 --> 00:26:58.410
Rhiannon help her, basically. And they're friends
00:26:58.410 --> 00:27:01.349
again. But Rhiannon has to promise the same,
00:27:01.509 --> 00:27:05.420
and then I'm picturing a little... kind of pretending
00:27:05.420 --> 00:27:08.660
from really far away, pinky promising. Air pinky
00:27:08.660 --> 00:27:11.180
promise. Yeah, air pinky promise from seven feet
00:27:11.180 --> 00:27:13.799
away with dragons on either side of them, just
00:27:13.799 --> 00:27:20.119
staring at them. Just a little wiggle. I'm constantly
00:27:20.119 --> 00:27:23.099
reminded of the perspective of Taron, who is
00:27:23.099 --> 00:27:26.359
like, he's 80 years old, or almost 100 years
00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:30.339
old, and he decided to bond a 20 -year -old hyper
00:27:30.339 --> 00:27:34.779
-pheromone -filled, hyper -hormone -filled Like,
00:27:34.779 --> 00:27:37.660
ugh. I'm just imagining these dragons watching
00:27:37.660 --> 00:27:39.799
these little hormone -filled bags of teenager
00:27:39.799 --> 00:27:42.640
walking by like, do I really want to do this?
00:27:42.940 --> 00:27:45.839
I know it gets better, but like, I have to raise
00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:49.619
them first. It's like picking out a kitten. You're
00:27:49.619 --> 00:27:54.230
like, ugh. They're just so chaotic, get into
00:27:54.230 --> 00:27:56.910
so much trouble, and I have to guide them through
00:27:56.910 --> 00:28:00.869
everything. We get a nice little shout out from
00:28:00.869 --> 00:28:03.410
Tynan, who of course has to mock everybody, but
00:28:03.410 --> 00:28:05.289
does happen to inform us that we are getting
00:28:05.289 --> 00:28:07.609
close to the end, which means we are approaching
00:28:07.609 --> 00:28:11.910
a very key moment for all of us. Yes. As Tynan
00:28:11.910 --> 00:28:14.029
goes on about how he can't figure out what dragon
00:28:14.029 --> 00:28:18.890
he wants to choose. We come across a dragon that
00:28:18.890 --> 00:28:22.609
really will define the rest of the series. So
00:28:22.609 --> 00:28:26.450
shiny! Before we get to that, I do like to call
00:28:26.450 --> 00:28:28.750
out, with arrogance like that, I'm sure any dragon
00:28:28.750 --> 00:28:30.589
would feel lucky to share your mind with you
00:28:30.589 --> 00:28:36.299
the rest of your life. Like, oh! Beautiful. Beautiful.
00:28:36.299 --> 00:28:44.240
Those are the lines I'm here for. So a little
00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:46.319
peek behind the curtain here. We were recording
00:28:46.319 --> 00:28:48.420
late into the night last night. We were only
00:28:48.420 --> 00:28:51.359
supposed to record for an hour and that quickly
00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:57.660
turned into. Two? Two hours? And it was everyone's
00:28:57.660 --> 00:29:01.480
bedtime. So we had to stop, but it is the next
00:29:01.480 --> 00:29:05.339
day and we are reconvening in Chapter 12. So,
00:29:05.440 --> 00:29:07.720
John, do you want to pick us back up where we
00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:10.619
left off, please? Absolutely. So we had just
00:29:10.619 --> 00:29:12.460
passed the line with arrogance like that. I'm
00:29:12.460 --> 00:29:14.759
sure any dragon will feel lucky to share your
00:29:14.759 --> 00:29:18.759
mind for the rest of your life. Which also, side
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:21.109
note. We all keep talking about how much we would
00:29:21.109 --> 00:29:23.829
like a dragon. Would you enjoy having someone
00:29:23.829 --> 00:29:27.869
that nosy, always in your fucking business, with
00:29:27.869 --> 00:29:34.269
no ability to stop it? I think yes. Maybe not.
00:29:34.390 --> 00:29:38.250
I think honestly yes, because A, I'm a nosy bitch,
00:29:38.390 --> 00:29:48.309
and game respects game. B, I... I don't know.
00:29:48.390 --> 00:29:51.470
I sometimes I have a really hard time like describing
00:29:51.470 --> 00:29:55.410
what I'm thinking and my my feelings. And so
00:29:55.410 --> 00:29:57.990
I think just having someone that just like knows
00:29:57.990 --> 00:30:00.769
and is in my head would be refreshing. Also.
00:30:01.609 --> 00:30:05.549
I love talking. So I love telling everybody my
00:30:05.549 --> 00:30:07.430
business. I want you to know my business. I want
00:30:07.430 --> 00:30:09.089
to know your business. So I think personally,
00:30:09.130 --> 00:30:11.309
this would be like a dream come true, especially
00:30:11.309 --> 00:30:14.309
if they're like, if it's a relationship like
00:30:14.309 --> 00:30:18.150
Riddick and Uhtram, or if it's like Ternan and
00:30:18.150 --> 00:30:21.630
Darna, like the sassiness, like I love quipping.
00:30:21.630 --> 00:30:25.009
I love doing like little snide remarks back and
00:30:25.009 --> 00:30:27.710
forth. So I think I would have a good time. Those
00:30:27.710 --> 00:30:33.599
are great points. However, I have the do not
00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:36.619
wish to be perceived mood in person all the time.
00:30:36.619 --> 00:30:39.279
I definitely don't need performance anxiety about
00:30:39.279 --> 00:30:42.400
my own thoughts. This is also where I'm coming
00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:44.279
from. I love that you brought up Riddick and
00:30:44.279 --> 00:30:46.900
Atrium because... I was just thinking about the
00:30:46.900 --> 00:30:49.859
fact that, like, I'm going on about how you can't
00:30:49.859 --> 00:30:52.779
keep anything from your dragon. Somehow, Riddick
00:30:52.779 --> 00:30:55.819
bought an entire bucket of itching powder, snuck
00:30:55.819 --> 00:30:58.880
it into the flight field, and managed to get
00:30:58.880 --> 00:31:02.160
it onto his dragon's back to dump all over his
00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:04.119
dragon. His dragon had no fucking idea what was
00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:07.940
going on. So clearly, you can keep some boundaries
00:31:07.940 --> 00:31:10.279
from some amount of time, but that just also
00:31:10.279 --> 00:31:13.410
makes me wonder how much, like... How strong
00:31:13.410 --> 00:31:15.990
Riddick's shields have to be and how practiced
00:31:15.990 --> 00:31:19.410
he has to be at shielding because... Or his dragon's
00:31:19.410 --> 00:31:23.910
less nosy. Yeah. Or both, yeah. Call him A, call
00:31:23.910 --> 00:31:28.769
him B. Okay, the rest of the squad is gathered
00:31:28.769 --> 00:31:31.089
around as they are coming around this last bend
00:31:31.089 --> 00:31:33.309
and we enter what will be a very interesting
00:31:33.309 --> 00:31:36.109
moment. I will give a little moment here to call
00:31:36.109 --> 00:31:39.990
out in the graphic audio. version of the audiobooks
00:31:39.990 --> 00:31:42.930
the background music literally changes at this
00:31:42.930 --> 00:31:46.990
exact moment into like fire of angels kind of
00:31:46.990 --> 00:31:52.490
it's like idyllic nature whoa background noise
00:31:52.490 --> 00:31:54.670
and it's like i wonder are we meeting someone
00:31:54.670 --> 00:31:59.940
magical Tynan gives us our first reaction, and
00:31:59.940 --> 00:32:03.319
this entire exchange here, I swear to God, I'll
00:32:03.319 --> 00:32:05.200
show my book to the others, but the amount of
00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:07.779
red underlining is all of the shit -talking that
00:32:07.779 --> 00:32:11.259
these people do about Andarna. And all I can
00:32:11.259 --> 00:32:15.059
keep thinking is, given the fact that they're
00:32:15.059 --> 00:32:16.839
all clustered together and Violet is in there,
00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:19.000
I can understand why they didn't just incinerate
00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:22.779
the group standing right then and there. But
00:32:22.779 --> 00:32:24.720
folks should have been dying as soon as they
00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:27.769
separated away. Okay. That's what I'm saying.
00:32:27.829 --> 00:32:29.890
I have it written down. Why in the world wasn't
00:32:29.890 --> 00:32:32.809
Tynan immediately incinerated for saying that
00:32:32.809 --> 00:32:36.589
they should kill Andarna? Right? Yeah. Like,
00:32:36.589 --> 00:32:39.029
they spread back. Like, he should be dead already.
00:32:39.269 --> 00:32:41.769
It makes no sense. They shouldn't even get to
00:32:41.769 --> 00:32:43.549
the point where they're colluding in my chapter.
00:32:44.009 --> 00:32:48.869
I know. And I do have, like, one little thing
00:32:48.869 --> 00:32:52.069
that I thought of that we'll get to once we get
00:32:52.069 --> 00:32:57.049
to Andarna in Threshing of... And possibly the
00:32:57.049 --> 00:33:00.390
other dragons are like, you left the veil on
00:33:00.390 --> 00:33:05.069
your own accord against our wishes, against our
00:33:05.069 --> 00:33:07.890
recommendation. So whatever happens to you is
00:33:07.890 --> 00:33:10.349
on you now. So that's like the only thing that
00:33:10.349 --> 00:33:12.809
I can see. But I'm still like, I don't know.
00:33:13.470 --> 00:33:15.130
It still just doesn't make sense to me. I've
00:33:15.130 --> 00:33:16.710
got a little head theory that I've been working
00:33:16.710 --> 00:33:19.430
on here. And I got an idea that might go with
00:33:19.430 --> 00:33:21.470
us. But let's keep going. We get a what the hell.
00:33:21.900 --> 00:33:25.099
And they keep walking as everyone's gaze becomes
00:33:25.099 --> 00:33:28.099
transfixed on the golden feather -tailed dragon
00:33:28.099 --> 00:33:31.220
at the end of the line, who is described to be
00:33:31.220 --> 00:33:34.099
beautiful with sharp teeth, quick darting movements,
00:33:34.460 --> 00:33:37.140
and is probably only a few feet taller than our
00:33:37.140 --> 00:33:40.740
girl, Violet. Which means that technically, Indarna
00:33:40.740 --> 00:33:43.160
is currently how to train your dragon -sized.
00:33:46.460 --> 00:33:50.019
For reference for everybody. Yes, great, great
00:33:50.019 --> 00:33:54.710
point. And then this next line here, I underlined
00:33:54.710 --> 00:33:58.789
it and then just wrote Newton ball cadets. Because
00:33:58.789 --> 00:34:01.869
I've got this image in my head of everybody in
00:34:01.869 --> 00:34:04.250
the line looking to the side and not looking
00:34:04.250 --> 00:34:07.069
forward and just like going until they collide
00:34:07.069 --> 00:34:09.130
with the person that was seven feet ahead of
00:34:09.130 --> 00:34:11.469
them. At which point that person keeps going
00:34:11.469 --> 00:34:14.550
and looks like loses their transfixion. But the
00:34:14.550 --> 00:34:16.570
other person is still kind of like stuck there
00:34:16.570 --> 00:34:19.780
and dazed until the next Newton ball. Yeah. Newton
00:34:19.780 --> 00:34:24.280
ball cadets. And then we get, so this is where
00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:26.940
my first moment was like, a dragon needs to just
00:34:26.940 --> 00:34:30.500
lean forward with his head and chomp really hard.
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:33.559
Tynan says, who the hell would bond that thing?
00:34:33.619 --> 00:34:37.579
And I literally just wrote, kill him. Yep. You're
00:34:37.579 --> 00:34:41.719
dead. Go away. Luca decides to come in by saying
00:34:41.719 --> 00:34:44.039
it's fucking yellow, too small to carry a rider,
00:34:44.260 --> 00:34:48.179
and not even powerful enough to be a real color,
00:34:48.219 --> 00:34:52.670
which is like, Go fuck yourself, Luca. And I
00:34:52.670 --> 00:34:55.650
will be honest for a moment here. Sawyer got
00:34:55.650 --> 00:34:57.809
himself almost in trouble. Almost in trouble.
00:34:57.889 --> 00:35:00.909
Because he says, maybe it's a mistake. And I'm
00:35:00.909 --> 00:35:03.349
like, you never call a dragon a mistake. A dragon
00:35:03.349 --> 00:35:07.269
is never a mistake. Yeah. But then he corrects
00:35:07.269 --> 00:35:09.449
it. He is halfway right, though. Yeah, maybe
00:35:09.449 --> 00:35:12.269
it's a baby orange. So, like, that's where I'm
00:35:12.269 --> 00:35:13.969
like, it's kind of redeeming. But I wouldn't
00:35:13.969 --> 00:35:16.769
have phrased it that way, my friend. Yeah. Yeah.
00:35:16.809 --> 00:35:19.630
I can see him. It's a mistake that it's here.
00:35:20.309 --> 00:35:24.070
Yeah. But still, yeah. Maybe keep, keep that
00:35:24.070 --> 00:35:28.090
thought on the inside. Cassie really quick. I
00:35:28.090 --> 00:35:29.889
just want to say that I'm really appreciating
00:35:29.889 --> 00:35:32.190
your, your braid necklace right now. Thank you.
00:35:32.190 --> 00:35:34.250
I was playing with it and I was like, Oh wait,
00:35:34.269 --> 00:35:38.969
this is kind of cute. I can't stand my hair on
00:35:38.969 --> 00:35:40.889
my neck. So I don't know how you can stand that.
00:35:41.320 --> 00:35:44.380
I hate my hair anywhere on my body at all. It's
00:35:44.380 --> 00:35:47.500
braided, so it's, like, there aren't, like, pieces.
00:35:47.699 --> 00:35:49.500
Like, because what I don't like is, like, one
00:35:49.500 --> 00:35:54.559
hair by itself somewhere. Yeah. I'm very purposely
00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:56.820
going through all of the red first, and then
00:35:56.820 --> 00:35:58.420
I'm going to go back and do the blue, which was
00:35:58.420 --> 00:36:01.739
the good comment. So going through this conversation
00:36:01.739 --> 00:36:04.920
here. Tynan says, who would bond that thing?
00:36:05.059 --> 00:36:09.000
Luca gives us all these nasties. Tynan says it's
00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:11.840
a mistake, alright, then compares it to Violet
00:36:11.840 --> 00:36:15.380
by saying they're both freakishly weak. And then
00:36:15.380 --> 00:36:17.820
Luke backs this up by saying it is golden and
00:36:17.820 --> 00:36:20.559
small, much like our petite silver -haired friend.
00:36:21.179 --> 00:36:24.559
Before Tynan decides to really just finish it
00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:26.719
out by saying someone should kill it, it's just
00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:31.699
going to get its rider killed. Again, if I were
00:36:31.699 --> 00:36:33.940
any of the dragons, anywhere in this vicinity,
00:36:34.460 --> 00:36:38.380
That kid is like, you don't have the, it's a
00:36:38.380 --> 00:36:41.440
crime for dragons to kill other dragons. A human
00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:43.639
plans to kill a dragon, you kill it right then
00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:46.599
and there because you're stupid. Yeah, you can't
00:36:46.599 --> 00:36:49.559
stand for that. Yeah. Also, now he's on board
00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:52.460
with, it's not like we get a choice of bonding.
00:36:54.019 --> 00:36:57.360
Which I love because I put an underline on this
00:36:57.360 --> 00:36:59.840
one. Riddick says you're just picking up on that
00:36:59.840 --> 00:37:03.960
now, are you? Which I'm like. What I love is
00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:06.179
you just called him stupid without calling him
00:37:06.179 --> 00:37:08.980
stupid. Well, yeah, he's been out here being
00:37:08.980 --> 00:37:13.380
like, which one am I going to pick? No, I think
00:37:13.380 --> 00:37:15.320
it's even funnier given the fact that they just
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:17.900
had the whole argument of you do not insult other
00:37:17.900 --> 00:37:21.099
cadets in front of unbonded dragons. And Riddick
00:37:21.099 --> 00:37:22.900
comes in with this, well, fine, I won't insult
00:37:22.900 --> 00:37:26.980
him, but I'm still going to insult him. going
00:37:26.980 --> 00:37:29.340
back through the conversation again here we had
00:37:29.340 --> 00:37:32.519
positive comments violet is like you realize
00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:35.579
a the dragons can hear you rihanna argues it
00:37:35.579 --> 00:37:37.820
has to be fully grown dragons would never let
00:37:37.820 --> 00:37:40.260
a baby bond we haven't ever seen a baby before
00:37:40.260 --> 00:37:43.360
violet points out that it looks powerful enough
00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:47.659
to burn him to death And, of course, Sawyer makes
00:37:47.659 --> 00:37:50.500
the comment that we do not ever say things about
00:37:50.500 --> 00:37:52.139
a squadmate, negative things about a squadmate,
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:54.199
especially in front of unbonded dragons, and
00:37:54.199 --> 00:37:56.420
don't make a mistake in front of them. We don't
00:37:56.420 --> 00:37:57.960
know what they'll do. Actually, that last one
00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:00.980
came from Trina, sorry. Which I also found notable,
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:03.019
because if I remember right, Trina is the quiet
00:38:03.019 --> 00:38:07.059
one in the squad. Yes. That's why she's whispering.
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:13.710
Yes. Yes. And so we have this like really interesting
00:38:13.710 --> 00:38:17.869
moment here because of course we have Trina and
00:38:17.869 --> 00:38:22.630
Pryor. Nope. I got those wrong. Tynan. Tynan
00:38:22.630 --> 00:38:27.949
and Luca. Too many names are in my head right
00:38:27.949 --> 00:38:29.650
now. Tynan and Luca. It's okay. They're about
00:38:29.650 --> 00:38:33.570
to be winnowed down. So you don't have to remember.
00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:37.380
As many. No, this is true. Who are both saying
00:38:37.380 --> 00:38:39.960
these horrible negative things. And then we have
00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:41.659
the group that are saying the positive things.
00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:43.719
Clearly we know that most of the positive or
00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:46.280
all the positives are doing pretty okay, right?
00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:49.860
But we have this distinction here between Tynan
00:38:49.860 --> 00:38:56.699
and Luca. Because really, both of them are, Tynan's
00:38:56.699 --> 00:38:58.880
really the worst one here, but Luca we know is
00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:01.340
going to be the one that goes, right? And so
00:39:01.340 --> 00:39:04.659
I make this comment here. They're all together
00:39:04.659 --> 00:39:08.340
clustered up at this moment. So the dragons that
00:39:08.340 --> 00:39:10.820
are around this section are not doing anything.
00:39:11.239 --> 00:39:14.000
I would also speculate that some of the conversation,
00:39:14.260 --> 00:39:15.960
not all of the conversation, but some of the
00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:18.440
conversation that we're hearing was not uncommon
00:39:18.440 --> 00:39:22.079
for other squads coming up to this area, right?
00:39:22.219 --> 00:39:25.719
Sure. Some level of disbelief and... Like, what
00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:29.769
the fuck? Yeah. Yeah. And so my interpretation
00:39:29.769 --> 00:39:32.849
is the dragons that are around Indarna are not
00:39:32.849 --> 00:39:35.349
only kind of a little bit used to this, but then
00:39:35.349 --> 00:39:38.130
also are hearing Indarna say, that's the girl
00:39:38.130 --> 00:39:41.530
I came here for. Torch them and I will start
00:39:41.530 --> 00:39:47.110
tearing scales off of you as fast as I can. Yeah,
00:39:47.130 --> 00:39:48.650
that's a great point because we do know that
00:39:48.650 --> 00:39:53.750
she hatched specifically for Violet. Right. And
00:39:53.750 --> 00:39:57.510
then the next thing that we have here is... Tynan
00:39:57.510 --> 00:40:00.690
pushes past Pryor to start down the path, commenting
00:40:00.690 --> 00:40:02.829
on the fact that Pryor can't make up any decisions.
00:40:03.210 --> 00:40:05.869
And so the only conclusion I can come to here
00:40:05.869 --> 00:40:08.570
as to why Tynan was not torched by the other
00:40:08.570 --> 00:40:12.210
dragons as he went back down the path was simply
00:40:12.210 --> 00:40:14.849
because he was so far away from Violet in the
00:40:14.849 --> 00:40:18.369
order that he didn't have any inspiration to
00:40:18.369 --> 00:40:20.130
be negative and he was just doing his whole,
00:40:20.230 --> 00:40:22.909
I'm going to focus on me and be selfish and try
00:40:22.909 --> 00:40:25.090
to figure out which dragon is mine because I'm
00:40:25.090 --> 00:40:28.639
superior and I'm a... Yeah, I'm sorry. Versus
00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:32.079
Luca is actually near the back with Violet and
00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:35.400
the crew, which means that she has this opportunity
00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:37.900
to be nasty. And that's my thing is I think that
00:40:37.900 --> 00:40:40.559
they all were, a few of them were on a one strike
00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:44.320
notice. Give me one reason to burn you and the
00:40:44.320 --> 00:40:47.619
dragons along the rest of the line will take
00:40:47.619 --> 00:40:51.099
care of it for us. And the only reason Tynan
00:40:51.099 --> 00:40:53.440
didn't get torched is because he was smart enough
00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:57.340
to go first and get away from Violet. Yeah, I
00:40:57.340 --> 00:41:02.159
think that's a good point. Thus, as far as I
00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:07.019
have notes, endeth the conversation regarding
00:41:07.019 --> 00:41:11.840
Indarna. On our walk back down the path, we are
00:41:11.840 --> 00:41:13.780
halfway through our leisurely walk through the
00:41:13.780 --> 00:41:17.789
Meadow of Death. We get Luca saying that the
00:41:17.789 --> 00:41:21.570
dragons are, to her, underwhelming. And I love
00:41:21.570 --> 00:41:24.869
Rhi's immediate response back. Like, this isn't
00:41:24.869 --> 00:41:27.230
stressful enough without you insulting them.
00:41:28.130 --> 00:41:31.809
Yeah. Like, it's like they're asking to die.
00:41:32.030 --> 00:41:36.070
I'm like, what? What are you? Like, there's a
00:41:36.070 --> 00:41:37.989
difference between being like, okay, you need
00:41:37.989 --> 00:41:40.489
to, like, project, like, confidence. And, you
00:41:40.489 --> 00:41:43.090
know, like, you're brave and whatever. And it's
00:41:43.090 --> 00:41:45.590
like, there's a difference between being like,
00:41:45.769 --> 00:41:48.110
oh, okay, I can handle this. And being like,
00:41:48.210 --> 00:41:50.010
yeah, honestly, it's not even that impressive.
00:41:50.769 --> 00:41:56.610
It's giving real red shirt vibes. I get that
00:41:56.610 --> 00:42:00.489
reference. Yes. And then we enter what I believe
00:42:00.489 --> 00:42:03.800
to be the actual. kind of more impressive aspect
00:42:03.800 --> 00:42:05.920
of this chapter, which is the discussion with
00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:09.679
regard to Wyvern. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. Because
00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:12.219
as I was going through this, and I think the
00:42:12.219 --> 00:42:14.420
same thing every time I come to this section
00:42:14.420 --> 00:42:20.780
of the story, they already know so fucking much
00:42:20.780 --> 00:42:24.539
and don't even realize it, right? Yes. Yeah.
00:42:25.239 --> 00:42:28.019
And so we get this back and forth of, well, you
00:42:28.019 --> 00:42:29.719
don't know what a wyvern is. It's folklore. But
00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:31.860
then they come in that they are bigger than dragons,
00:42:32.019 --> 00:42:34.300
two feet instead of four, razor sharp feathers
00:42:34.300 --> 00:42:38.000
down their neck, and a penchant for going after
00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:40.420
humans. It says that they like the taste of humans,
00:42:40.500 --> 00:42:43.219
but I rephrase that to a penchant for going after
00:42:43.219 --> 00:42:47.070
humans. Probably, yeah. I kind of have this headcanon
00:42:47.070 --> 00:42:49.329
that dragons don't like eating things that can
00:42:49.329 --> 00:42:54.429
actually communicate in complete sentences. Except
00:42:54.429 --> 00:42:57.889
for Andarna. Because she has to be reminded that
00:42:57.889 --> 00:43:02.650
we do not eat our allies. Young dragons might
00:43:02.650 --> 00:43:06.469
be a fun exception. It comes with maturity. Yes.
00:43:06.730 --> 00:43:09.670
And so it's my understanding that dragons have
00:43:09.670 --> 00:43:11.789
no desire to kill humans unless they have to.
00:43:12.710 --> 00:43:16.820
But we know that wyvern are... tools not sentience
00:43:16.820 --> 00:43:19.719
and so it would make sense that they would have
00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:22.119
a penchant for going after humans right the way
00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:24.539
they would be known for attacking humans or eating
00:43:24.539 --> 00:43:27.760
humans but then what i love about this is that's
00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:29.840
all coming from violet our girl violet we already
00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:32.659
know that she has a pretty decent source for
00:43:32.659 --> 00:43:36.219
information with regard to wyvern what surprises
00:43:36.219 --> 00:43:41.059
me to hell and back is our girl re Their eerie
00:43:41.059 --> 00:43:44.400
-eyed Venon riders would take us prisoner if
00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:48.579
we took trees we weren't allowed to have. And
00:43:48.579 --> 00:43:51.679
then later, she comes back with, did he tell
00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:54.860
you people supposedly only turn into Venon if
00:43:54.860 --> 00:43:58.760
they channel directly from the source? So Rhiannon
00:43:58.760 --> 00:44:01.679
already knows almost as much as Violet does with
00:44:01.679 --> 00:44:05.860
regard to Wyvern and Venon, which is insane.
00:44:06.019 --> 00:44:09.389
Sorry. And I'm just like, I wonder what the dragons
00:44:09.389 --> 00:44:11.010
are thinking. Like, what's going through their
00:44:11.010 --> 00:44:12.929
head as they're hearing this conversation? You
00:44:12.929 --> 00:44:16.769
know what I mean? Like, uh -oh, uh -oh. Or are
00:44:16.769 --> 00:44:19.530
they like, yes, yes, good, I'm glad you know.
00:44:20.730 --> 00:44:24.210
It's probably a mix. Yeah, yeah, some on each.
00:44:24.289 --> 00:44:26.889
And then, like, flashing this forward to when
00:44:26.889 --> 00:44:29.389
the squad actually gets confirmation that Wyvern
00:44:29.389 --> 00:44:31.469
exists, when Violet finally confesses to the
00:44:31.469 --> 00:44:33.510
squad, and they check with the dragons, and those
00:44:33.510 --> 00:44:36.150
dragons are shocked that they actually know.
00:44:37.050 --> 00:44:39.730
Yet the dragons that bonded these cadets are
00:44:39.730 --> 00:44:42.130
literally in this valley, probably capable of
00:44:42.130 --> 00:44:44.269
hearing any conversation the entire length of
00:44:44.269 --> 00:44:47.789
the valley. Oh, yeah. But, yeah, I guess it's
00:44:47.789 --> 00:44:50.250
the difference between, like, knowing of, like,
00:44:50.269 --> 00:44:52.849
unicorns and then finding out that they're, like,
00:44:52.929 --> 00:44:55.409
oh, you actually know they're real now. Well,
00:44:55.590 --> 00:45:01.610
okay. Yeah, but then it's... I don't know if
00:45:01.610 --> 00:45:03.969
I completely agree with that because it's like
00:45:03.969 --> 00:45:08.250
the dragons know unicorns exist. And so it's
00:45:08.250 --> 00:45:11.269
I guess it's almost like in our world hearing
00:45:11.269 --> 00:45:15.070
about the giant squid. And then, oh, shit. Ten
00:45:15.070 --> 00:45:17.070
years ago, we figured out that the giant squid
00:45:17.070 --> 00:45:21.309
is actually real. Does that I mean, I don't like
00:45:21.309 --> 00:45:23.530
for the purposes of my point, I don't really
00:45:23.530 --> 00:45:25.110
feel like there's a difference. It's just like
00:45:25.110 --> 00:45:28.250
the difference. The difference isn't like. oh
00:45:28.250 --> 00:45:30.429
you've heard of this con like yeah it's not that
00:45:30.429 --> 00:45:32.550
they care if you've heard of the concept it's
00:45:32.550 --> 00:45:34.750
like oh but now you know that if it's real or
00:45:34.750 --> 00:45:37.590
not like i didn't realize that you'd caught on
00:45:37.590 --> 00:45:42.840
very fair okay And then we get this fun little
00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:45.900
headcanon. I still believe to it. Like, I know
00:45:45.900 --> 00:45:48.420
we've had so many debates. Has Mama Sorengale
00:45:48.420 --> 00:45:51.460
turned or not? Is Mama Sorengale a Venon or not?
00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:56.280
If Mama Sorengale were a Venon, this would be
00:45:56.280 --> 00:45:58.739
evidence towards it. We have this moment where
00:45:58.739 --> 00:46:01.400
she comes in with red -ridden eyes that Violet
00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:05.300
describes as bloodshot. And... screams her little
00:46:05.300 --> 00:46:07.500
head off because there's a Venon to which all
00:46:07.500 --> 00:46:10.079
of the guards come running so part of me wonders
00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:14.039
of like what captain in the infantry is aware
00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:17.099
that Venon exists and is like shit that's not
00:46:17.099 --> 00:46:21.559
supposed to be there run yeah yeah I wrote okay
00:46:21.559 --> 00:46:24.340
but were they really bloodshot because I'm like
00:46:24.340 --> 00:46:30.260
maybe I don't know. She just had really bad allergies
00:46:30.260 --> 00:46:33.400
that day. Or, I mean, the explanation being that
00:46:33.400 --> 00:46:36.559
she was just exhausted. I've just never seen
00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:39.019
eyes actually be red from exhaustion. Same. I've
00:46:39.019 --> 00:46:41.099
seen them be red from lots of other things. I
00:46:41.099 --> 00:46:43.079
was going to say exhaustion, especially if you,
00:46:43.139 --> 00:46:47.320
like, it usually requires a full 24 hours awake
00:46:47.320 --> 00:46:50.559
to get to approaching bloodshot eyes from exhaustion,
00:46:50.739 --> 00:46:53.139
but mine do it really hard at the 24 -hour mark.
00:46:55.050 --> 00:46:57.210
But you're right. Allergies are also a thing.
00:46:57.329 --> 00:46:59.929
And for me, living over here where I live right
00:46:59.929 --> 00:47:03.050
now, my allergies have decided to go haywire
00:47:03.050 --> 00:47:06.289
the last couple of weeks. And so now I'm on every
00:47:06.289 --> 00:47:08.789
allergy medication under the sun to keep my eyes
00:47:08.789 --> 00:47:12.570
from going bloodshot. Or my alternative suggestion
00:47:12.570 --> 00:47:15.349
is that maybe her contacts were just irritating
00:47:15.349 --> 00:47:19.610
her eyes. Because that's why my eyes usually
00:47:19.610 --> 00:47:26.280
get red. Or she's a fanatic. Yes. There can be
00:47:26.280 --> 00:47:29.000
many reasons, but we like that one the most.
00:47:31.139 --> 00:47:33.440
And then, of course, we get this back and forth
00:47:33.440 --> 00:47:36.360
about how it's border village nonsense before
00:47:36.360 --> 00:47:38.739
Reed decides to prod Pryor and say, you can walk
00:47:38.739 --> 00:47:40.860
a little faster up there if you want. And we
00:47:40.860 --> 00:47:43.139
get his trepidation. Maybe I should, maybe I
00:47:43.139 --> 00:47:45.340
shouldn't. And this is the one moment where I'm
00:47:45.340 --> 00:47:48.099
just kind of like, of course it's a red that
00:47:48.099 --> 00:47:51.739
decides that this is not allowed to stand. Yep,
00:47:51.739 --> 00:47:57.900
classic red. And we lose Pryor. First death,
00:47:58.139 --> 00:48:01.420
to our knowledge, well, I guess not the first
00:48:01.420 --> 00:48:02.940
death, because we heard about someone getting
00:48:02.940 --> 00:48:06.199
burned earlier, before they went into the...
00:48:06.199 --> 00:48:08.940
I've looked ahead to see how many people died
00:48:08.940 --> 00:48:11.320
during this little leisurely stroll through the
00:48:11.320 --> 00:48:14.219
meadow, and... We get a number in the next chapter.
00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:16.699
Yes, would you guys like me to share it now?
00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:22.679
Sure. 22 people. Out of the quadrant end up getting
00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:25.460
burned on this walk. Yep. And we witnessed two
00:48:25.460 --> 00:48:30.460
of them. With a third in the background. Yes.
00:48:30.619 --> 00:48:32.739
I have a note when we get to that in the next
00:48:32.739 --> 00:48:35.059
chapter that it's like, unless they died in the
00:48:35.059 --> 00:48:38.500
two days between then. Or the day and a half
00:48:38.500 --> 00:48:40.719
or whatever. But I don't, yeah. I like to just
00:48:40.719 --> 00:48:43.019
say that. Unlikely. I thought this was the day
00:48:43.019 --> 00:48:45.059
before. I thought you present and then the next
00:48:45.059 --> 00:48:47.679
day you walk into the flight field. I thought
00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:49.539
that too, but when I was writing notes for the
00:48:49.539 --> 00:48:53.760
chapter, it says... Yeah, what day is presentation?
00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:59.000
It's like two days after. Because, yeah, threshing
00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:04.460
is October 1st. It definitely makes it seem like
00:49:04.460 --> 00:49:06.380
presentation and gauntlet happen on the same
00:49:06.380 --> 00:49:07.860
day, because the morning is gauntlet and the
00:49:07.860 --> 00:49:10.139
afternoon is presentation. Yeah, those are the
00:49:10.139 --> 00:49:13.260
same day, but then when is threshing? Oh, I found
00:49:13.260 --> 00:49:16.699
it. So... Dane tried to talk her into a brown.
00:49:16.860 --> 00:49:18.940
I've only talked to him once in the past two
00:49:18.940 --> 00:49:22.739
days since presentation. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
00:49:22.780 --> 00:49:25.119
Okay. Yeah. So I'm just made like a little note,
00:49:25.179 --> 00:49:28.739
like it could have been from some unrelated thing,
00:49:28.780 --> 00:49:31.800
but I most likely, yes. I had a little bit of
00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:34.800
that thought of my mind too, of what happens
00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:37.219
if you go through presentation and then you hear
00:49:37.219 --> 00:49:39.820
through the scuttlebutt of the squadron that
00:49:39.820 --> 00:49:44.650
the squadrons. hear through the gossip that someone
00:49:44.650 --> 00:49:46.869
else has their eye on the same dragon as you,
00:49:47.010 --> 00:49:50.130
would it be considered unreasonable to quietly
00:49:50.130 --> 00:49:54.590
take them out in an undisclosed location? I don't
00:49:54.590 --> 00:49:56.190
think so. I'm sure it's happened. As long as
00:49:56.190 --> 00:49:57.969
they're not sleeping, I think it's totally chill.
00:49:59.010 --> 00:50:03.010
Yeah. And so, I see your point. They could have
00:50:03.010 --> 00:50:05.210
died by other ways, but I like the headcanon
00:50:05.210 --> 00:50:08.469
that the dragons took out 22 riders. Or cadets.
00:50:08.469 --> 00:50:10.469
Agreed. They're Swifties. They don't know about
00:50:10.469 --> 00:50:20.409
you. They are feeling 22. Okay, hold. I have
00:50:20.409 --> 00:50:22.730
the playlist. Oh, but I don't have the, I took
00:50:22.730 --> 00:50:27.750
out all the Taylor Swift songs. John, I don't
00:50:27.750 --> 00:50:33.170
think we're friends anymore. You're being excommunicated.
00:50:33.170 --> 00:50:38.010
Rebecca is such a huge Swifty. Oh my God. You
00:50:38.010 --> 00:50:40.980
can't take out the Taylor Swift songs. But I
00:50:40.980 --> 00:50:44.260
think the song 22 was in the playlist for this
00:50:44.260 --> 00:50:48.659
book. Amazing. Headcanon just got reinforced.
00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:51.500
I can't wait till we finish this book and we
00:50:51.500 --> 00:50:54.760
can dive into that for a bonus episode. I have
00:50:54.760 --> 00:50:56.860
not looked at the playlist yet. I haven't either.
00:50:57.159 --> 00:51:01.079
Yeah, I built my own version of them in my phone
00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:03.099
because I wanted to be able to listen to them.
00:51:03.579 --> 00:51:09.059
But I can't. Our girl Rebecca Yaros is a Swifty.
00:51:09.789 --> 00:51:14.190
To extreme measures. And I can kind of excuse
00:51:14.190 --> 00:51:17.599
you cutting out more of the, like... teeny bopper
00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:20.460
Taylor Swift songs. Like I get it, especially
00:51:20.460 --> 00:51:22.300
they're played on the radio all the time. They
00:51:22.300 --> 00:51:25.900
can be a little much. Taylor Swift is not very
00:51:25.900 --> 00:51:31.300
good at selecting singles because her discography
00:51:31.300 --> 00:51:34.619
is much, much better than 22 and Shake It Off.
00:51:34.920 --> 00:51:38.940
And yeah, in the fandom, we have a lot of gripes
00:51:38.940 --> 00:51:41.179
on the singles that she chooses because there
00:51:41.179 --> 00:51:43.900
is much better. They are the ones that fit the
00:51:43.900 --> 00:51:47.030
most standard pop vibe. which is probably what
00:51:47.030 --> 00:51:48.650
she's like, ah, these will probably do best on
00:51:48.650 --> 00:51:50.789
the radio. Yeah. Even if they're not actually
00:51:50.789 --> 00:51:53.329
the best songs. Yeah. I feel like that's normal
00:51:53.329 --> 00:51:56.090
for most artists. I'm looking to see if I kept
00:51:56.090 --> 00:51:58.849
any of the civil. I didn't keep any of the Taylor
00:51:58.849 --> 00:52:03.829
Swift in this. John, I, I, one, one of these
00:52:03.829 --> 00:52:08.440
days I am going to convert you. I will. Like
00:52:08.440 --> 00:52:11.360
I said, when it comes to the playlists for Onyx
00:52:11.360 --> 00:52:13.400
Storm, I kept a couple of them, but not many.
00:52:13.480 --> 00:52:15.760
Like, Who's Afraid of Little Old Me? That one
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:19.239
is... That's such a bop. Oh, I love that song.
00:52:19.780 --> 00:52:23.059
There's another one, though. Willow. Willow and...
00:52:23.059 --> 00:52:27.360
Willow's excellent. Oh, I love Willow. John,
00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:29.559
I think that you would really like Reputation.
00:52:29.719 --> 00:52:32.400
I'm a Reputation girly. Peek Behind the Curtain,
00:52:32.440 --> 00:52:34.860
we're recording May 26th. There's actually a
00:52:34.860 --> 00:52:37.000
rumor that she's going to drop or announce...
00:52:37.210 --> 00:52:39.610
reputation taylor's version today so far i haven't
00:52:39.610 --> 00:52:41.869
seen anything so probably not we probably were
00:52:41.869 --> 00:52:44.949
all just clowning again um however i am a reputation
00:52:44.949 --> 00:52:47.070
girly through and through it is my favorite album
00:52:47.070 --> 00:52:49.710
and john i think that you would dig it it's very
00:52:49.710 --> 00:52:53.809
sexy see and i like what i've started to get
00:52:53.809 --> 00:52:56.230
into from taylor swift is not the sexy it's when
00:52:56.230 --> 00:53:00.409
she actually like if you're gonna write a breakup
00:53:00.409 --> 00:53:02.730
song it would be really nice if every single
00:53:02.730 --> 00:53:07.929
breakup song wasn't in a major key Like, sometimes
00:53:07.929 --> 00:53:12.389
a breakup is just sad. I think that is a gross
00:53:12.389 --> 00:53:16.630
oversimplification. So many of them are minor.
00:53:17.369 --> 00:53:20.610
If you've actually listened to a lot of her discography.
00:53:21.130 --> 00:53:23.429
Well, and that's where I'm like, the songs that
00:53:23.429 --> 00:53:25.530
are starting to get to me are the post -Brawn
00:53:25.530 --> 00:53:27.989
songs where she, like, went back and started
00:53:27.989 --> 00:53:31.739
re -evaluating. What it was like to live through
00:53:31.739 --> 00:53:34.739
that time is what I've kind of interpreted them
00:53:34.739 --> 00:53:37.199
as. And that is where it starts to get a lot
00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:40.239
more interesting to me. Okay. We're not going
00:53:40.239 --> 00:53:42.280
to make it through this chapter by our end time
00:53:42.280 --> 00:53:44.880
if we don't keep going. We have three hours.
00:53:45.019 --> 00:53:50.300
Let's go. So, of course, Pryor is dead and we
00:53:50.300 --> 00:53:52.440
have to make sure that the fire is out before
00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:57.489
we keep walking. Bye, Pryor. and we get this
00:53:57.489 --> 00:54:00.690
comment holy shit are we insignificant you'd
00:54:00.690 --> 00:54:02.809
think that they'd get more like stop drop and
00:54:02.809 --> 00:54:07.570
roll lessons which is so funny because i feel
00:54:07.570 --> 00:54:09.730
like we got so many stop drop and roll lessons
00:54:09.730 --> 00:54:12.929
as kids and i'm like when will i ever use this
00:54:12.929 --> 00:54:15.989
how often will someone catch on fire i thought
00:54:15.989 --> 00:54:18.449
catching on fire was going to be a bigger problem
00:54:18.449 --> 00:54:21.570
that and quicksand i'm like these are real issues
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one of the only times i got in trouble as a kid
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because I was such a rule follower, was we went
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on this field trip to the fire station, and we
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were all in the garage and learning about stop,
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drop, and roll, and they wanted us all to practice
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stop, drop, and roll on the floor. And I was
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like, I don't want to do that. Not because of
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dirt or anything. I was a dirty child. It was
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fine. But because I was like, this looks so silly
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and dumb. I don't want to look silly and dumb
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like everyone else. So I'm just going to stand
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here. And instead of explaining to me, like,
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we're helping you build the muscle memory so
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that in an emergency, you don't have to think
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about it. And practice helps ingrain it into
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your habits. I just got in trouble and I couldn't
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go to recess like the next day until I did it.
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Oh, my God. Oh, Cassie. But, you know, I was
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feeling really stubborn and I was like, I don't
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think this, like, I understand the concept. I
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don't need to do it and look stupid in front
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of everyone just because everyone else is. Yeah.
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Just because everyone else is rolling off a cliff.
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Everyone else is stop, drop, and rolling off
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a cliff. Oh, okay. That sounds like the next
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music hit. Stop, drop, and roll off a cliff.
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Oh, goodness. Of course, Luca has to chime in
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with, oh, my God, the smell, which I do give
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Vi some credit here. There is such a thing as
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decency. I understand the smell is bad, but you
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just watched a human get burned in front of you,
00:56:05.960 --> 00:56:07.860
basically. It's like when someone farts. Like,
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don't say anything about it. Just, like, let
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it be. Or compliment them on the volume and breadth.
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Yes, that too. You have to throw on this. We
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enter what will be the most stressful moment
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of the entire walk when the dragons choose to
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engage. Yep. And so, of course, we have our little
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moment with Vi here where she is. surrounded
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by green dragons sniffing and chortling and nudging
00:56:41.230 --> 00:56:43.969
and getting all up in her business until she
00:56:43.969 --> 00:56:46.849
realizes oh shit you're smelling the green dragon
00:56:46.849 --> 00:56:49.429
scales that are hidden in my armor that no one
00:56:49.429 --> 00:56:52.650
else can see it's like when you have like cat
00:56:52.650 --> 00:56:54.530
treats or catnip in your pocket and you just
00:56:54.530 --> 00:56:57.829
get swarmed yeah like sniff sniff sniff sniff
00:56:57.829 --> 00:57:05.019
sniff sniff nose butt Our girl Vi does have a
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moment where she shouts in one of their ears,
00:57:06.980 --> 00:57:10.780
only to realize that she did so. Oops, sorry.
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And explains that she is Mira's sister, Violet,
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that Mira made the armor for her, and that it
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has kept her alive, even though it is a secret.
00:57:21.340 --> 00:57:24.039
I love that the reaction she gets from one is
00:57:24.039 --> 00:57:26.739
a blink, and the other is a sniff. A really loud
00:57:26.739 --> 00:57:32.460
sniff. Like, huh, never thought of that. We get
00:57:32.460 --> 00:57:35.360
this wonderful comment here. Professor K already
00:57:35.360 --> 00:57:38.179
taught us every way to approach a dragon, exactly
00:57:38.179 --> 00:57:42.920
zero ways to disengage one. Yeah, maybe we should
00:57:42.920 --> 00:57:45.940
add that to the lesson plan. Seems important.
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As they retreat, Rhiannon and, I think we got
00:57:49.619 --> 00:57:52.199
Riddick on the other side right now, run up to
00:57:52.199 --> 00:57:54.579
Violet and try to reassure her figuring out what's
00:57:54.579 --> 00:57:57.960
happening here. And Violet does manage to share
00:57:57.960 --> 00:58:01.059
one secret with Rhi here, disclosing the dragon
00:58:01.059 --> 00:58:04.400
armor she wears. I also love this other comment.
00:58:04.440 --> 00:58:06.840
Other than having a few years shaved off my life,
00:58:07.340 --> 00:58:12.420
she's fine. Yep. Been there, girl. Been there.
00:58:12.420 --> 00:58:15.039
Better comparison here. It's not actually like
00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:17.079
catnip or cat treats. It's like when you go on
00:58:17.079 --> 00:58:19.099
a walk and you pet a street cat and then you
00:58:19.099 --> 00:58:22.150
come home and your cats are like. you cheating
00:58:22.150 --> 00:58:28.630
bastard wrong dogs are even worse about it if
00:58:28.630 --> 00:58:30.809
you go pet dogs on a walk and then come home
00:58:30.809 --> 00:58:34.250
they will like sit on top of you and sniff every
00:58:34.250 --> 00:58:35.789
little ounce of it and then spend the rest of
00:58:35.789 --> 00:58:42.130
the day pouting yep yep can attest riddick tunes
00:58:42.130 --> 00:58:46.599
in with i think i just shat myself If you're
00:58:46.599 --> 00:58:48.099
going to shit yourself when they get that close
00:58:48.099 --> 00:58:49.440
to your friend, what are you going to do when
00:58:49.440 --> 00:58:51.159
one of them decides to get up close with you?
00:58:51.980 --> 00:58:54.579
He's going to lose his breakfast in the next
00:58:54.579 --> 00:58:59.480
chapter. More bodily excretions. Bodily fluids
00:58:59.480 --> 00:59:03.860
coming out of every orifice. Cheers to that.
00:59:07.639 --> 00:59:10.519
And then, of course, Luca has to chime in here
00:59:10.519 --> 00:59:12.880
saying that she thought Violet was going to get
00:59:12.880 --> 00:59:14.800
eaten, wouldn't have blamed the dragons if they'd
00:59:14.800 --> 00:59:17.780
done it. And when everyone calls her out on it,
00:59:17.820 --> 00:59:21.380
she says what? She's obviously the weakest link
00:59:21.380 --> 00:59:25.619
after Pryor. Boo. And wouldn't blame the dragons
00:59:25.619 --> 00:59:28.059
for snuffing her out. And that's when we get
00:59:28.059 --> 00:59:32.239
a nice blast of heat from behind. Speaking of
00:59:32.239 --> 00:59:35.980
snuffing. Bum, bum, bum. Another one bites the
00:59:35.980 --> 00:59:41.329
dust. And then we get Riddick time chiming in.
00:59:41.389 --> 00:59:44.070
Guess the dragons think she's insufferable too.
00:59:44.829 --> 00:59:47.590
So what's notable here is going into Gauntlet,
00:59:47.630 --> 00:59:50.449
they were basically untouched. They hadn't lost
00:59:50.449 --> 00:59:53.070
a single cadet. Editing Abby here to say, except
00:59:53.070 --> 00:59:56.530
for Orly. Now they are down to six. They've lost
00:59:56.530 --> 01:00:00.730
two and the dragons took both of them. Yeah.
01:00:01.469 --> 01:00:06.699
Thus bringeth an end to our chapter. I don't
01:00:06.699 --> 01:00:09.480
know why I keep using this. The bringeth an end.
01:00:10.139 --> 01:00:14.579
You know what? I love it. It's great. Wow. That
01:00:14.579 --> 01:00:17.099
was entirely too long for that sort of a, Oh
01:00:17.099 --> 01:00:20.099
shit. Two and a half hours. I mean, some of that
01:00:20.099 --> 01:00:22.579
was just talking and that can get cut out. So
01:00:22.579 --> 01:00:26.420
take off like 20 minutes of today. good lord
01:00:26.420 --> 01:00:29.460
okay so i think that we should just go ahead
01:00:29.460 --> 01:00:35.239
and end it here so that will do it for us for
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this chapter and until the next one goodbye Thank
01:00:48.440 --> 01:00:50.599
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