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Today we're gonna talk for a few minutes before camellia gets here a little bit about artificial intelligence and how it's making people's lives
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better most people this is why
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I'm not gonna say it. I'm not gonna say it
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I'm not gonna say it just the whole just Austin for once in your life. Shut your mouth
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So you don't have to say everything comes in your mind
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Most of the people who do podcasts are gonna give you the gloom and doom of AI
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They're gonna make a million bucks off of telling you to be afraid and scared
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AP for Liberty is gonna tell you how AI can actually make your life better because it can
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So regular people using it making their lives better we're gonna talk about
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What it means for just a regular person now the way that people are using AI these days
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I'm I'm constantly shocked because I'll speak to people even people who are in my industry the people who could appreciate
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The people who could appreciate this the most
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Are barely using it for some of its biggest intended functions
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And I'm not gonna you know why buy the cow and you could milk get the milk for free everybody knows
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I'm teaching a class on how to use AI
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It's a weekly class
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We meet on Thursdays and it's a useful way for you to get a little bit of private time with myself
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Brad fills in sometimes as well. We do office hours. We help you with AI tasks that you have
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We teach you the nitty-gritty details about you know
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How to set up agents how to do some of the more advanced tasks to be able to solve a lot of your problems
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But I'm constantly shocked at how people how little people are using it to do things that could
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Dramatically change their lives for the better. We're gonna talk a little bit about that this morning
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Thank you for that link. By the way guys the Trump accounts might the TSP might be available to you boss
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Let me know about that. I don't want that to disappear
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By I'm gonna go I'm gonna open that up the American dream starts now
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Yeah, I got to do that open that in Chrome so that I don't lose that later. Thank you Byron
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Boom boom boom boom boom got it. Thank you guys. Appreciate that. All right, it's not getting distracted
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So this story that I was reading over the last week
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Over the Wall Street Journal detailed this Andres Carpaffi. He was a founding researcher at open AI
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That's the company behind chat GPT. They can't coined this term called vibe coding
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To describe building software by saying what you want in plain language and then letting the model write the code
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Collins dictionary named it the word of the year for 2025
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So a throwaway phrase became inside of 12 months the way that a large share of the world software is now getting built
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github which is a
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Repository for code their own data puts AI generated code at roughly 46% of all new code
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In 2026 up from about 10% in 2023
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So depending on the company tech now runs anywhere from a quarter to nearly all of its code through AI
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As a matter of fact one of our close friends who works for the government here in, Missouri
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Almost put herself out of a job in a way because she was able to create an app that
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Automated her spreadsheet job the all of this Excel spreadsheet work
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Using artificial intelligence, so let's take you guys on a quick little tour
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If you haven't checked out the for Liberty Network website highly recommend that you do so at for Liberty Network comm
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I could have never built like I could code a tiny little bit
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I could look up how to do certain small things because I have built WordPress websites before but the for Liberty Network website is
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fully custom
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so it's not what I used to have to do if I wanted to build a website on WordPress is you would go and pay maybe a
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hundred bucks sometimes three hundred bucks for a
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For a WordPress theme and then you had to tailor all of your work to whatever that theme was
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And if they didn't have a theme he had to install a plug-in and every plug-in that you installed made it heavier and buggier
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Jennifer how mine says did I get my clawback? No, I I'm still banned and a couple of
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However, it was three weeks ago or whenever when I did get banned
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I submitted an appeal and they didn't even respond back
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So I'm guessing they're just you know, they're they're fully woke over there and they're not gonna give me my account back, which is fine
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I've moved on and I wouldn't trust a company like that anyway for the infrastructure of my business because if they can rug pull
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You like that it's pretty dangerous. So I'm no longer clawed maxing
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I am now back to chat GPT but chat GPT can do all of the things that I was doing with
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with Claude and better because Claude does not have a native in an image generation tool and
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Chat GPT does as a matter of fact the image that you're looking at right up there was created with chat GPT
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And it's a pretty damn good image. My thumbnails are some of the best in the business
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So if you want to find out all of my secrets guys and really learn
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How to use these tools, please do check out my AI course and weekly we do weekly lessons
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on how to use AI
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So for Liberty Network comm fully built I won't say fully built
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I guess partially built with chat GPT and partially built with Claude
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I got banned right in the middle of building that website, but thankfully chat GPT has an
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Importation tool so you can import all your data from Claude into chat GPT. So that actually made it a lot easier
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Peter the great says why isn't AP using grok? Well, that's a great question. I do use grok
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I use both but I use different tools for different things and
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Questions like those I would answer in my AI course, but great question Peter the great I do use them
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I'd pretty much use all of them except for mid journey at this point. I
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Used to use mid journey, but it's just it's the best in the business for image generation, but I've got a good enough
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Situation with chat GPT and with other tools
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So this is a fully custom website now one what what I want you to understand about this
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When I say fully custom is that it's not only
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You know just what appears on the front page
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But I was able to write code so that whenever a show goes live on the wake up America shows for Liberty Network
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That show will instantly be pulled up onto the front page of
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For Liberty Network comm that that is that is a very very complex task to accomplish
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And I was able to accomplish that task
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Using chat GPT and using this thing that they call vibe coding. So now
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Whenever for a show is live like we are right now you can see here. It pulls my rumble stream
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You can see there's Austin live over there
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And all of the shows which we have six live shows will now appear live on the front page of for Liberty network comm
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That is the kind of thing that you would have had to pay a developer tens of thousands of dollars to be able to build
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for you
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So you don't need to know how to code now check out our awesome. Which founder are you quiz now a quiz like this?
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Again, not the type of thing what we used to have to do for things like this is we used to have to find a website
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that did quizzes and then that website would own your data and if you if more if the more people use the quiz the more
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You would get charged because the company of course wanted to make a profit
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Well now you don't have to go and pay that company to install this kind of a beautiful and look at this gorgeous
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Website that I have vibe coded here with 12 ques 12 questions 12 possible matches
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Which founder are you you can decide which you know, are you a woman?
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Are you a man or let history decide but let the kindergarten teacher decide which gender you are, but look at this
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beautifully vibe coded
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quiz that you can take
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Answering the questions and dealing with the issues that the founding fathers of the United States. I'm just rushing through it
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We'll see which one I get randomly
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and at the end of this quiz
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Look at these beautiful images that we have all created all vibe coded
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Explaining what it is that I want, you know
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Telling it to make tweaks and fixes and changes until you get to the very last question
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Which we should get to in a second and then boom
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See now this is how you know, it's legit because I just naturally arrived at Thomas Jefferson. Good morning, Eric
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Welcome to the wake up America show
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So
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Secondary match would be Alexander Hamilton that makes sense you begin with independence and trust concentrated power
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And then look at this now. Here's the thing. How do I grow my website? Well, I want people to share on
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Their social pages. This is the kind of thing that you would have had to pay for advanced functionality and
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Look what happens when I when I say click share on X now
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Not only does it boom give a beautiful image saying I'm like Thomas Jefferson
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But look it tags me on X automatically so I can see who shared it, right?
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So boom, I'll share it and now somebody's gonna go in there
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They're gonna click it and they're gonna go take the quiz now. Let me go back to the page. I was on
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Okay, there we go
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And then you can meet the founder behind your match
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So you can get additional information if you put your email address in there
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Boom and then sign up for the daily volley or tell me when the next founder quiz goes live
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And then you can send it'll send you an email you sign up for our daily emails and you're gonna get a biog a deeper
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Biography of the founding father that you signed up for and then look at this check it out
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Provision your morning brew like a founder a box of founding flavors coffee vibe all that vibe coded right into the bottom of the website
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Eric Wilson says China wants nothing more
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Than for us to have data to hate data centers totally true Eric and welcome to the show and thank you for a generous contribution
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We appreciate that very much. So
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Are you able to trick the results for Woodrow Wilson? That's a good one
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Rare Camilla says ooh, I need to go do mine. Yes, and you can and we have founding mothers as well
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So Camilla make sure that you check the females just so you can see which one
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Which female founding mother that you were most like so it's really fun
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And all of the questions are serious questions related to the problems that the founding fathers faced in 1776
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So it's really fun. It's historically accurate and it has a fun little bonus at the end
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where if you sign up for the daily newsletter, then you guys will
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Get a beautiful email with a biography a detailed biography of the founding founder that you have all of that vibe coded
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All of it vibe coded from sitting down and iterating and breaking down
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You know what it is that I wanted my website to do
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And of course a lot of these images that you're seeing over at for Liberty shop calm
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I built I mean look at this beautiful founding flavors coffee box Stephanie did the the box art for these designs
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For founding flavors coffee and you could see the one for Jeffersonian Java
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We used mid-journey for the original images for many of these. So Jeffersonian Java was mid-journey
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But Benjamin Franklin's electric elixir that one was vibe coded using chat GPT
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But look it's just a gorgeous box of coffee
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One of the best roasts I've ever had says Damien five-star reviews all over the place
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The cool thing is about our coffee is that not only is it delicious coffee?
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But when you when it arrives at your house, it's it's looks beautiful sitting on your desk
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So it's an experience and so we're able to offer an upgraded experience that we would not have been able to do this quite frankly
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There there really is no way that our network as small as we are
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Could punch above our weight as much as we do without our artificial intelligence
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So the other day when I was on Fox News
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If you guys were able to see the clip you could see my wake-up America show with Austin Peterson flag on my microphone
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Now in order to have something like that custom produced
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It would have cost a lot of money to have something like this sent away now
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This is just a piece of plastic, but note that it's in three beautiful colors gold for the Sun and for this
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Titles white for the text and then black for the background. I was able to manufacture this for
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Maybe 10 cents is how much it cost me maybe 25 cents on a high high level if
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Counting electricity in the time that it took to to put it together in
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Chat GPT, you know, maybe 50 cents, but look at this beautiful flag now the other day when I was on
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Fox News people who saw the Fox News appearance
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Saw the wake-up America show with Austin Peterson and they were able to find me actually somebody literally reached out and said
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Saw your appearance on Fox News today followed you on all platforms
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So for under 30 cents, I was able to maximize the impact of my appearance on
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Fox News the other day, so it was a tremendous benefit. Take a look here
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So see right there, you know in front of a million people in the morning wake-up America show with Austin Peterson
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I took the show logo. I dropped it into chat GPT. I
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I dropped the file sent the file over to my 3d printer and I printed this beautiful
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Flag and then look at it right there the flag pulled up on Fox News calm a million people saw that
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For an extremely low cost and that is what vibe coding can do for you
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So I it's just the it is a miracle and I hope people really start to you know back off of this anti
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Datacenter hate I understand people being upset if a data center is doing something like eminent domain that that deserves pushback
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Find her on exit rare Camila the lovely Camila Peterson all the way from Orlando, Florida. She wouldn't miss an appearance. Hi CJ
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Good morning, so I stepped outside this morning. I took a deep breath
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I'd not get real high
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Now I don't think weed. I think Florida is one of the rare exceptions. I don't think weed is not legal in Florida is it
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Well, it may not be legal, but you still smell it
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We're like mmm a little contact. Hi there
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So this morning we're gonna talk about
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Which doesn't really surprise me some of us predicted that that would happen that a lot of the generation of people who were
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The most against legalizing it were the people who were going to need it the most with their aches and pains
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So talk to us about this trend the fastest growing groups of cannabis cannabis users in the country of senior citizens
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Shocking not shocking. I mean, it's gone up by like 40 some percent in the the last two years alone
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And so it is I don't know like it's a mix. I think there's a mix of things going on here
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I do think the old hippies have you know come back around to?
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You know, it's a lot of them. I think probably stopped
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Smoking or doing drugs and things like that when they had families and responsibilities, right?
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Not all of them, but some of them and you know now that they're in their retirement years
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They're they're coming back to it and also more socially acceptable to in some ways, right?
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And so and I also think that you know some older people when they're looking for non-pharma
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You know ways to get relief from pain or to be able to sleep better
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Things like that. I think that they have started to explore this as an option as a natural option as well
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And I talked to a lot of people on the phone when I was doing that and they like
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I was really surprised by the number of older people that I talked to that brought up that very issue
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And I can't remember what was going on right now that made it relevant
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So now we've got to talk about the property rights question here because people who live in apartments
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Have the the right I think the right to be free of
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Cigarette or marijuana smoke, but when one person's legal habit is seeping through the wall into another person's home whose property rights win
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Right. I I mean, you know
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You're you're right stop at the end of my nose or you know
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However, you want to put it and I don't I think that is a line that we've had to talk about
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It's why I think as a society we got away from
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smoking in restaurants things like that, right at one point like everybody was doing it and it was like
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it's really socially acceptable and in some ways maybe almost expected and then the negative health benefits or the negative health impacts came out and
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It really started to decrease plus people were tired of smelling if you're not a smoker
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They were tired of smelling the smoke while they were eating and tasting it because you can taste it too
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And it's the same thing with weed. I mean when I had a little place in st. Louis in the city
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I would step outside in the morning and there would be one or two things that I would smell either somebody was roasting coffee
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Which I know that sounds great, but it's not always great
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But somebody would either be roasting coffee or like the smell of weed would just permeate
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the neighborhood because there was somebody there who just like hotbox their car almost every night, but
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But yeah, I I think that that's a legitimate question. Yeah, it's it's a difficult question too because we're talking about property rights
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And these are questions that you know, we've been dealing with for hundreds maybe even thousands of years the question of how far you know
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How much do you can you regulate people's behavior based on the what do you call it the negative?
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Externality that comes out of it. So there's a there's an interesting case example of the sriracha. Are you a sriracha fan?
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Camellia the rooster sauce. Yeah
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Chili pepper. Yeah, these are like I mean, it's like chicken farms, too, right?
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conversations around these CAFO operations that
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and I don't know what you do about that because I
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Whether you live close to a landfill or whether you live close to a chicken operation
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We dealt with this in Missouri a couple of years ago with a landfill where people didn't want it in
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Some of them had moved to the area kind of even knowing that that was a possibility but like
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It's a good question. Like where do property rights, you know, where your personal property rights begin and end
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Well when we legalized when we legalized marijuana, Missouri
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I mean there with my two-year-old daughter and the kids over there on the other side of the park are smoking weed and it's blowing our
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Way and my daughter is having to smell it
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Because I realized that the that the consequences of the legalization of cannabis
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meant that these kids in this public park could with impunity
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It it wouldn't bother me if it was me standing outside a club and walking by
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But don't you think that there's an argument to say that there should be legal restrictions in public parks where children are present?
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Well, I say I think that's where you get into the public square discussion. Yeah, and so I
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Don't I mean there there is a line somewhere. We have this public. What's what? What is your expectation in the public square?
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whether it is about smoke or whether it is about an expectation of privacy when it comes to you know, flock cameras like
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What how do we offer and I think it's a question we have to wrestle with because you know, we live in a society
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But I like you do have to if you're not going to have a
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Just a natural internal consideration for other people and you think about the fact that I'm doing something in a public space
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And am I thinking about how that affects other people around me?
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I mean does the the state the government have a role to step in and create those guidelines
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And there's there's probably an argument to be made for that, right?
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I mean if this is if your tax dollars are paying for it just like mine are
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Then I think we have to come to an agreement on kind of the standards for that shared space you are Amalek
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Had an interesting comment here. Let's see if I can scroll up and find it says
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That zero evidence of secondhand smoke causing cancer or serious disease that was made up to convince the band smoking in bars
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Should have been and like clubs should have been something that was left up to the private property owner
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I agree with that. I agree with that too
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Yeah that it should have been up to the bar owner and you know what it's it's strange sometimes when in whenever you're in the deep
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south where they have no they don't have the smoking bans on bars and restaurants if I go into a restaurant and I smell a
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Smoking going on at a restaurant. It doesn't make me want to leave it actually makes me feel nostalgia
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It reminds me of what you could go to like a Burger King in the 80s, and there'd be like a smoking section and you could go
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But now we're you know now we got to deal with the negative secondary consequences of legalization so the question I guess is
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I mean if you are living in apartment complex and the people next door to you smoke
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So I mean are we gonna you would think that you'd have a community that would say we're going to not have
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Smoking or smoking cannabis in our community, but that's not what ends up happening
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It's probably not different than regular cigarette smoke that right although
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I will I do I will say I think that probably the smell of weed smoke is more pungent than
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Cigarette smoke, but it's not it's not dissimilar to noise ordinances, too
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Right I mean if you live in an apartment complex
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Do you have the right to you know play really loud music?
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After a certain time or at any time right the everything has trade-offs
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And I often just and it's hard for me well
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It's not hard for me to imagine because I guess I've lived in both places
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But I'm living in the country and growing up in the country right
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I don't know how people who live in the suburbs in an apartment complex is do it where like you know people like me are
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coming to your door
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During election season right and I mean and you you do have to like
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Find a way your neighbors your closest neighbor is like right next to you as opposed to you know a half mile away
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so it's a completely different set of circumstances and there are trade-offs to it and
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I think part of the trade-off is that
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You're there are gonna be some inconveniences and things that you don't like and I do think you probably have to
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To draw a line somewhere, but that's where we get into that's a little subjective. I love our audience members st
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Selma says a
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Stinky's bar in Oskaloosa, Kansas became a membership club so as to allow patrons to smoke Casa buck to become a member
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That's fun. That's funny
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Let's see. What about drinking?
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David Lee says as a Mormon it bothers me when you do it next door behind closed doors. That's funny
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Byron says it's illegal to be drunk in public right or walk around with an open container. That's true
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That was the only time I ever got dragged before a judge when I was in college
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I was at a party and it was downtown in Springfield and they have an open container law and my buddy had just gotten a
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new car that was sitting on the
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Sitting right. I'm just right past the sidewalk and he says yeah, come check out my new car
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so I walk out with a freaking bud light in my hand bottle of beer and
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The cops plainclothes officer surrounded me grabbed the beer. They were like
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They were waiting for me and they bust we had to go in front of a judge
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And I think I pleaded no contest in a hundred hundred dollar fine, but just so stupid
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It was just a way of course for them to do it. But but then again
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You know you in Herman, Missouri where we're gonna go for
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Oktoberfest on October 3rd, make sure you put that on your calendar Camila get your dirndl October 3rd, okay
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All right, I have to write that down October 3rd Herman, Missouri
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we're all gonna party a bit it used to be and maybe you didn't know this but John Marsh used to tell me that a
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Herman, Missouri used to be like a rager during the during the Oktoberfest celebrations because people would get drunk in public
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So they actually had to cut to commit to open container laws
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and so now it's much more tame and sedate than it used to be because
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People used to like get caught having sex in bushes and stuff
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We got it was really bad all of the public drunkenness down there
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So so open container laws Camila is that is that a reasonable?
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expectation for the public square
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And that's interesting question in terms of deterrence, right?
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What do you what kind of laws do you create as a form of deterrence?
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I wouldn't really have thought about that significantly deterring public drunkenness
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But I guess you know if if people are gonna drink their probably and they have to stay, you know in a space to do it
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They're less likely to be wandering the streets creating mayhem
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But like me walking out the front door of a party. Yes
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But I don't know
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I guess I would have to see the data behind whether or not the places who have done that like did it really make a
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Significant difference it sound like maybe it did in Herman. Yeah, Missouri voters legalized recreational, marijuana
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So, I mean, do you think that it's been an improvement? Do you think that it's has it been a success here in, Missouri? I
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Mean the policy itself has been terrible just because it's very crony istic as far as like the number of people who are now
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Consuming weed in various forms. I think there are I don't know there are downsides to it, right? There's
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One of the things when you talk about the hippies who are now doing weed again
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Weed is a lot different than it was in the the 1960s and 70s, right? It is a lot stronger
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But but I also think that there are other cultural trends that we see like this is a trade-off like there is less
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Drinking among some of the younger people, but they're probably also utilizing weed more
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but for older people too, like there are risks with this because you know, it's stronger, but also weed has a delayed effect like it's not like
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Alcohol where the effect is really kind of almost instantaneous, right? We can have a very delayed effect
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So if people consume too much
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They could really be sunk later when it all hits, right? I mean, that's a real detriment
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But we do see, you know when you talk about just full legalization
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It is really detrimental for younger people and people respond so differently to weed
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I said people get like crazy paranoid like other people just puts them to sleep, right? And then some people feel like feels like it
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Sharpens their thinking or you know makes them feel more relaxed or whatever it is
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Like it's there the effects are so varying
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But I think that one of the things that we do know now after years of the reefer madness that were overblown
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But we do know now that there are some very negative impacts on young people as far as you know
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Brain development and things like that if they consume a lot before certain age
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Yeah, cannabis related emergency room visits among seniors or climbing
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The problem with this is that you know how we always tell a youngsters being impaired and all the youngsters all this kind of stuff
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The dangerous people out on the highways are the senior citizens from my experience
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I can't tell you how many times level goes almost got run over in the Hy-Vee parking lot
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Because some senior citizen isn't looking isn't checking their six
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And now they're smoking weed and driving imagine an old a senior citizen
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Woman Asian driver now that right there that entire demographic
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What do you mean you don't know the Asian element is like our Asian women drivers like worse
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If you're just sitting in the wake-up America show I'm being extremely racist my friend Camilla Peterson on the wake-up America show
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Some stereotypes exist for a reason welcome welcome if you're not having fun, then don't click the like button
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But if you are having fun click the like button
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And one of the conversations though right that one that we had when they were talking about
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Legalizing is there there was this question about how will they test for it when you're driving?
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They're gonna come up with one. I'm sure they will they're gonna
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They're gonna do they're gonna get like out the little calipers and measure like your eyes and stuff
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And then they'll have to have a special one for Asians
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JJ says do Asians smoke that much hash not me not that Asian the other Asians
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Yeah, I don't know it would be interesting to see if there are like
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Ethnic differences in the consumption of weed. I don't I mean I don't know that there are they're probably a
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Can I introduce you to this thing called black people Camilla have you ever heard of
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Well I think the the white folks are on pace to match everyone else from what I've seen anyway
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Well, we'll certainly have to leave that conversation for another day so that we don't get canceled so
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Camilla is there anything else that we wanted to discuss before we let you go?
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We talked about weed the whole time I had this I had a whole bunch of fun like millennial things and stuff like that
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Maybe we should save that for Thursday. What do you think?
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Yeah, I do have a little bit of bad news for Thursday. I will be in the air at our show time
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Okay, Camilla, well then we'll have to just save it for next for next Tuesday the Gen Z
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Trends that they're tired of from Millennials. We'll have to save that one for next time
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Yeah, we should talk about Gen Z and AI next time to you. Oh, that'd be good. Okay. Great. All right, Camilla
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Well, we appreciate you very much. Thanks so much for coming up and hanging out with us
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Joining us live here to talk about the kingfish. We're gonna talk about Huey long and why JD Vance brought him up
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His speech this last week. Good morning, John. Welcome to the show. Good to see you again. Hey, good morning
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AP great to be back with you. Yeah, I normally love it when my Republican politicians bring up
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historic figures from the past and
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I have to admit that I hadn't heard or read anything about Huey long since I think maybe high school when I was
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talking about how FDR really hated this guy and
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What was funny was that this guy Huey long was so far to FDR's left
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That he that FDR was actually really super annoyed by him, which means he must have been a pretty hardcore lefty
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So who was Huey long? How did this country lawyer from Louisiana end up as the man they called the kingfish?
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And why are we talking about him today?
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Yeah, it's kind of crazy to hear Huey long brought up today, you know by a
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Republican vice president because you know Huey long like you say he was he was a threat to FDR
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He was you know during the Great Depression
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He was saying that the New Deal is not doing enough
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He wanted a much more radical redistribution of wealth
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in in Louisiana, he set himself up as governor and
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He I can't think of another governor in American history that had as much power as Huey long over his state
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It was all through patronage
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He was doing it to help the poor
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But in doing so he you know made himself a very very powerful political figure if you wanted a job
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Huey long was the guy you went through and and to me Vance
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Invoking him. It's I don't want to be hyperbolic, but it to me
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there's almost something historic about this speech because
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It represents the full embrace of at least JD Vance if not the GOP toward this economic
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populism which we've seen this creeping over the years and I think that this marks a
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Watershed or it's a full embrace and by economic populism, you know
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For some people it's a dirty word for other people love the idea of it
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It's just this idea that we're gonna do is popular whether or not it's right and you can see some of this
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The left has been embracing this for a long time with policies take rent control take minimum wage law laws
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We know what these policies do. They're very, you know destructive
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Especially if if if they're embrace fully yet, they're very popular with voters and this is why politicians embrace them
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But for decades the GOP really didn't get into this like they weren't they weren't gonna go out minimum wage laws
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And say we need to jack the minimum wage to $20 to help the poor people
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But that's what Vance has done. He was doing it in 2024. You can go back
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He was embracing a $20 minimum wage at the federal level
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And this is sort of a culmination of that like he's invoking Huey long and saying
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Is he saying that this is a guy that we should you know embrace?
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He didn't say that but he doesn't have to we know by him, you know, quoting Huey long in speech is what he's doing
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Okay. Well, maybe John
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I mean his his his defenders online are saying he didn't really mean that but if he did mean that here's why it's good
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Now here's the thing. What did every man a king and these share the wealth programs
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Promise Americans in the middle of the Great Depression. What was Huey long actually advocating for in the 1930s?
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I think it was just wealth redistribution, right? I think he was kind of a Bernie Sanders of his time with a southern drawl
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And if I wouldn't be surprised to see Vance talking with a southern drawl here soon, you know, like it's it's a very folksy way
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But basically it's it's this idea that your property isn't yours that you you're entitled to someone else's property
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And the problem with this is is that it really does, you know
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Stifle entrepreneurship like people go and create things on the promise that they're going to get to keep what they create
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And whether it's on the right or the left and you start saying no, we're gonna take what's yours because somebody else deserves it
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It's it's very, you know dangerous to
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Societies and in economic systems. No now when you run the numbers on share our wealth
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Do you think does capping the big fortune fortunes actually help young people get into homes?
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You know wealth redistribution, you know guaranteed income from every family, you know, do you think that that?
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You know, has there ever been an example of this working in history?
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I'd be interested for someone to share it information with me. I don't see anything like that
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All these, you know, we've been kicking around a lot of these ideas. We we have one at air.org right now
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Ubi ubi has been great interest, you know in in this idea even among some libertarians, right?
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Like the idea is that we can use ubi
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Universal basic income to replace the welfare state. Well, if we're going to actually ditch the welfare state
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I might be you know entertain some of these conversations
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But everywhere we see ubi implemented the story is the same people work less if you give people free money
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um, they're going to work less and if we are going to implement something like that at a national scale and elon musk is
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One of the guys talking about this. I don't think people fully appreciate
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Just what that would do to the incentive that people have to go to work and and something like that could work for a little while
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I I think even you know, you'll find economists that will say oh, you know, like like for a few years
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This might put long term the destruction the destruction would be I think it's kind of difficult to imagine
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And in all these ideas in theory, they sound kind of good
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Um voters like this and this is this is what I would you know, tell the audience
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Public choice theory has been around for a very long time
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The politicians have their own incentive and it doesn't align with your best interest
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It aligns with how they can get the most votes
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And until people understand that we're going to see more and more of these these kooky policies now
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Let's now let's listen to what jd vance actually said
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Let's get the facts straight and then we can distort them as we please but we'll play the clip real quick
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And then let's react to it
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The great southern populist probably most of you in the in the room don't know who i'm talking about
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But he's an interesting guy kind of a crazy guy
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His name was huey long and he once said
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Every man a king was the goal of his political program
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But no man is a king if their castle is under siege by criminals
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No, man is a king if they can't take their family out to dinner without being mugged or having their car jacked
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And of course ending the biden border invasion was a big
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Part of why we have changed that over the last 18 months. Okay, john, so I mean what's to disagree with there?
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I mean he invokes huey long. I mean I have to say it's funny. I actually felt really awkward because
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I think I was putting a campaign together or I was you know, making a pitch to somebody and I was saying, you know
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my concept of a
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libertarian nationalism or you know a return to gold water conservatism
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Is a is a desire to make every man a king in the united states and that's not based on wealth
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redistribution it's based on the ideas of
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Economic libertarianism that you and I believe in now jd vance the way he was talking about it there
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He was just using it as a quote and talking about in the context of crime and immigration
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So, I mean, you know, is there a reason to maybe not get our you know, our panties in a twist
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Immediately just hearing him invoke him because of the context
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Um, no, I I find it very concerning that when he brings a figure like huey long up to to make his points
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It is large. I agree with you that his larger points there. It's a very political speech, right?
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And politicians are very good. They tell you what you deserve, right?
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They don't want to usually tell you how to how they're going to deliver that but they want to they want to you know
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Feel your pain to go back bill clinton was great at this bill clinton was very good at channel channeling this this empathy that voters felt
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But but clinton's policies were frankly much better than some of those that we're seeing in the gop today
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And and i'll go back to it. You can make promises
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Um and give these speeches. That's not solving the problem
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And even you know focusing on on voter angst over immigration is a political strategy
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I I might be telling my candidate the same thing
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But you know what and I probably wouldn't be saying hey, let's talk about that 40 trillion dollar national debt
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Like right it's a pretty serious thing
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Do you but do we want voters talking about that?
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No, they don't because they're going to say well, what are you doing to stop that and and I can see nothing
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That jd vance or the trump administration is doing to put the brakes on that national debt
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And if you look it's about doubled since um covet and this is going to be a disaster
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I don't think the I don't think democrats have a plan to fix it
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I don't think the republicans have a plan to fix it and we are doing great damage
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To our children and grandchildren by by allowing this
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Runaway debt to just keep increasing year after year. I don't think the american people care about the national debt
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I think you know most people they really just think about it like they have personal debt on their own credit cards
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And I think that they just think that it's something that we can kick down the road indefinitely
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And as long as the united states is america is like a military superpower
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And and as long as we don't, you know try and
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You know de-anchor the the dollar is the world's reserve currency like some have suggested in recent years
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We could continue to print our way out of a crisis. John
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Why not as long as we still have the as long as people still want to buy american goods american services and american developed products
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Why can't we just keep printing into infinity?
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Well, eventually inflation is going to be a problem and that's what we saw
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During covet and how did how did voters do with 10 inflation, right?
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How'd they do today? It's still hot. We keep we can't I don't know we'll ever get back to that 2 target the fed has
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Never john
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I mean, come on a 0.25 basis points. You're not a you're not a perma bear, right?
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I don't want it to happen. I I don't hey i'll crack a bottle of champagne and we actually get there
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I don't think you know that 2 is in the foreseeable future
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Um, and and if you listen to the fed conversations all the pressure is to keep cutting rates
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Um, like there's no interest in a rate hike and if you know, if worst actually goes through and does a 0.25, you know percent
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Hike good good to him. I think that's that's sort of you know, I don't get into the fed, you know monetary
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Political debates too much, but I think I think it would call the the rules call for a rate hike here
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And war she's going to be tested on this front
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but the larger point is
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Um 10 inflation was bad wait until we get to 30 inflation. This is how countries
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Look at history. This is what destroys countries and it's the same to fiat money
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In in it's a cycle and it's not a problem until it is and then once it is
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What usually happens is you have these economic populace that they come in with a way to fix it
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If this is if you believe this though, john, i'm going to put you on the hot sea right now
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If you truly believe this do you have a significant like portion of your
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Finances put away in like gold and silver and inflation hedges
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I I have I I wish it was more significant. But yeah, I I have some in all of this
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You can I was going to say because like a lot of times is that i'll have the conversation with the
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Libertarians on this one talking about the bemoaning the national debt and inflation never coming down
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And then they they you know, they have significant assets in the stock market and they have significant assets in cash
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But they are doing the kind of inflation hedges
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That makes them think that they put their money where their mouth is
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So it's the problem with this though. John is is that I found over the years is that if you are always predicting disaster
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Like you're always going to find it it's kind of like the timing of the ron paul peter schiff 2008 financial crisis
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Everybody gave ron paul and and peter schiff and the austrian economist credit all the way back in 2008 with the housing market crisis
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And the inflation that came from the bailouts and the stimulus
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But then the economy did recover from that and a lot of people who put their money into gold and silver at the time
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Lost their shirts. So, I mean, is there a time though? John miltomore when you might say oh, well, you know
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00:44:50,760 -->
00:44:52,840
The economy actually isn't doing too bad, right?
528
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You know, maybe you you might get out of the perma bear status because a lot of people who put their money in peter schiff's accounts
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Lost a lot of money in a decade because of the goal until until recently when the price of gold had a correction
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00:45:10,760
So, I mean it's kind of like how what's a guy like me to believe who isn't an economist?
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00:45:16,360
John when you see my libertarian friends constantly with the gloom and doom and fear mongering
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And then you have the other side the perma bulls
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Say who are constantly oh, it's going to go up. It's going to go up. It's going to go up
534
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What is a regular guy like myself to do with kids who's trying to plan for the future? What am I supposed to do?
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Just hedge edge. Yeah. No, I I think that's a prudent policy
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And I also say, you know for people who doubt that, you know who say oh that you just you know doom saying
537
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Look look at the federal budget now and look at how much of the budget is just going to service our debt
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We're looking at close to a trillion dollar annually. No, we're spending more money servicing our debt than we are on national defense
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That's a very real consequence
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And and you know to to go further look at where we're heading with social security right now
541
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Social security is going to go in the red here in just a few years
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And that means a 25 percent pay cut if the law doesn't change do politicians in washington have a way to fix that
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I I don't know like there's policies that can be done
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They're going to be very painful
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And we'll see if the political parties can even fix that and if not you're looking at very real consequences
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There are 25 percent cut no matter, you know, where you are if you're making your social security check is big
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It's going to be cut 25 percent of as small it's going to be cut 25 percent
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But these things are coming to a head and I don't see the ability in washington to fix these problems
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So yeah, I would be very nervous for people with kids and grandkids. It's the the the political situation is becoming untenable
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00:46:47,560
Our ability to fix some of these problems gets harder every year when we do nothing
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Yeah, there is no appetite to cut spending. I think we saw that with donald trump who had a mandate to do so
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But then when they brought in doge and started attempting to do so they found that the political pressure against cutting any spending was
553
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Damn near violent john, which makes me wonder if the actual tactical or strategic approach that people like ourselves who are the fiscal hawks
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Might want to take is rather than focusing on cutting government spending which absolutely no one outside of our little think tank world wants to do
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You can't even find you know conservatives or republicans who want to do that. John
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00:47:29,960
I mean we are kind of like a minority within a minority within a minority of people who actually say yeah
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00:47:35,000
We would cut medicare and medicaid spending but nobody in politics has any incentive to do that
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So are we better served perhaps strategically rather than sort of like leading suicide squads?
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Of uh, uh up, you know bunker hill trying to capture a little round top or doing pickets charge every you know
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Two years and then the elections come up fighting the regulations fighting the red tape
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Fighting the the rules that prevent business owners businesses from being started. So in other words
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Isn't the the path to salvation?
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Outgrowing the problem rather than trying to cut our way out of the problem
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Sometimes I wonder if we aren't overemphasizing cutting spending and we're not focused enough on cutting the barriers
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To the to the paths that would allow us to grow our way out of this crisis
566
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I think we should be doing both and the truth is we have to like I hear that talking point now from the
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00:48:29,880
The trump administration like oh we're gonna we're gonna outgrow this that's not going to happen
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Oh john when you're you you can't do that when you're spending a trillion dollars a year just to service your debt
569
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00:48:39,400
We're not gonna we're not gonna and you're certainly not going to outgrow these economic policies
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00:48:42,760
We have as far as our our trade restrictions and so forth
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00:48:47,000
Um, look at look at gdp over the last decade two decades
572
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00:48:53,240
Like like this idea that we're going back to five or six, you know percent annual economic growth that that's not going to happen
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And and so I think we need to be realistic about this. I do think you're right
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Yeah
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Go after the regulations go go after the permitting that makes it so hard to set up a mine in this country or
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Or industry, um, we need to do those things as well, but we need to get real about spending
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00:49:14,840
Um, and and it helps if you have people in there that actually want to cut spending
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If you if you go back and listen jd vance was never interested in that he he wanted to he wanted to co-op the administrative state
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He didn't want he didn't want to get rid of he wanted to create a pay
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He wanted to create a patronage
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He wanted to create a patronage network
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And I have to say that I do think that there is a good argument for that and i'll tell you why
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I think that probably the the reason for the disaster, uh that has befallen the libertarian movement
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Is largely because of the lack of a patronage network that we that we failed to create for our people
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now if you were
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Uh, you know part of a certain class of people within the libertarian movement and I saw it up close and personal
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You could get jobs at some of the libertarian institutions and there's very few libertarian institutions
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They're very there. There are a few there's you know, and then there you know
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There's kato and there's heritage and there's a few places where you can get jobs
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But we don't really have a network a a true patronage network for people who share our views and our beliefs and our opinions
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Part of that is because we're highly individualistic
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But part of it is because the selfishness is a virtue is something that we take very
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very dearly and we don't invest in young people john and we don't invest in the kinds of networks that are necessary for us to
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Be able to create the kinds of institutional power that are necessary for us to get our ideas across
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We're splinter driven to the forewinds and this is just a strategy. This is just this isn't a question about principle
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This is a question of power
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So isn't it a problem?
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John that we as people who are fiscal conservatives who would like to see spending cut who would like to see
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Regulations cut that we have not created the kind of patronage network that the left has codified
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That the right is trying to build and we are sort of left flapping out in the wind with no one
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No one to hire the 19 year old libertarian who wants to have a job because what I see john
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Is a lot of these young people they're interested in our ideas. They have nowhere to go
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They can't get a job
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They're not there. There's nowhere there's nowhere for them to go and to be able to spend a summer
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I was lucky I was able to go work at the libertarian party for for a year year and a half read the books
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Find out all of the information that was necessary for me to build a career
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There aren't a lot of opportunities like that out there. John. Don't you think jd vance has a point in some ways?
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I I don't and and if he wants to lean in hard to building a patronage network like huey long did
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He can do that and I understand a certain political appeal in that
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If we start to embrace that we're going to end up
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If there's nowhere to go on the left or the right at both parties begin to embrace this like we're just going to
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Be a spoil system and and and use government and coercion to it doesn't even have to be government, john
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We don't even have proper institutions
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Like aren't even the answer different story that I think that's an entirely different story
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Like like if jd vance wants to invest in think tanks and things like this and expand those networks
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That's a good idea
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Like like in I think there are a lot of those whether it's libertarian or classical liberal or conservative where people can go
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Like a young person who's industrious and bright
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I think they will be able to find places in these networks to find career paths
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Have you seen what it's like john?
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Have you tried to get a job recently like now you're a little bit more senior. You've got a little bit more
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Can you imagine what it must be like?
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I mean you should really stick your head into the job market for these young people
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And see what it is
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What it is like for a 19 year old young libertarian kid who wants to go out there and try and get a job
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Even in some of these institutions. They don't they're they are if you are a young white male
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like I I would be terrified to know what would happen to
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Younger john milton morris and younger austin peterson if instead of trying to get a job back during the 2008 years
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They were you and I were trying to get jobs working for the institutions that we have already worked for in the year
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2026 john we're being shut out
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I I don't think that's true and i'll say why austin because at between my time at air and fee
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I've seen so much young talent come through as interns as fellows
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And I can see so many of these people they're doing things they came in as an intern
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They're doing things cooler than I am now. They have bigger audiences than than I do
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They're making more money than I am. Are they women? I I've watched it. Are they young women?
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Some yeah, are the majority of them young women?
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I haven't I I think I I know several young women that have have been enormously successful
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I think you see what i'm getting at. I think you see what i'm getting at though. John
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There is not there is no pipeline for the young for the next john milton more my next child
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We just found out last week is going to be a boy. I am not worried. I'm thank you
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I'm not worried about my girl my hazel. I know is going to be fine. She's beautiful
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She's got a shock of red hair
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You know if she goes to college every professor is going to want to make sure that they put her on the inside fast track
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For some niche career
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It's the boy the young white boy that i'm about to have that i'm worried about john
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Because the the system that is set up right now is cons has conspired against the young men
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And I think that you and I we might have gotten in while the getting was good to be able to get the opportunities that we need
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But a lot of these young white men who by the way are the majority of libertarians. That's who they are
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They don't have the kind of a pipeline that even people like yourself and myself had and they're not going to go get the jobs
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In government that we're not going to we don't have the kinds of networks
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That are going to funnel these young white libertarian men of whom there are the majority of people who share our views
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Into the positions of authority that that are necessary for us to be able to continue our ideas. Okay, fine
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I'll give you the final word
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No, I i'll just say I share your concerns about this emphasis in this country on identity
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Like it's a problem and but we we have seen in recent years
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Um a blowback against that I I think I think we were past peak woke
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I think this ethic that we got to look at is treating people as individuals
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and this is something both you and I believe treat people as individuals not as a cis male or
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A person of color. No look look at at how people what they can bring you and I and I believe anybody in this country
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So if you have the right set of job skills
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You're going to be employed and I say this to reassure you bringing a child into this world a young a young male
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You know if you if you give him the right mindset and he has the right skills, he'll be employed. He'll be employed
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Maybe he won't be a podcaster
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Um or we're working at you know, the heritage foundation or something
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But you know this economy still awards people that can deliver
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Um and perform and I think this is more important as young people coming out of college that like you look companies
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We're not happy like they're getting all these people that are college educated and they they can't they can't take orders
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They can't show up to work on time in this world. If you can still do a lot of the little things, right?
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I think people will find they keep they'll continue to thrive
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This this idea like america is still a place that where people prosper
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That's why people all over the world come here, but we got to keep america the way that it has been
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Where it awards people on merit and not these other factors that are are so silly. Okay, john
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I appreciate your point of view. Thanks for coming on here and debating these issues with me
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Hopefully we'll see you again more often this fall so we can have more mondays with milton more
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Have a good one ap. Have a good one. That's john milton more from the
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