Cody: Alright guys, it's just the the way we started. We're gonna is what we're gonna do. We're gonna start with being core me and calling tonight. Excuse me. But ⁓ yeah. It's been a been a hell of a year. We've done fifty two episodes. No, it's been more than a year that we've been putting these out, but we figure since we have fifty two episodes in, that's one averaging one a week for a year, we discuss what we ⁓ been going over and what we Well, we think about everything and what we've learned. Wouldn't you say Colin?
Collin Klein: Yeah, that's what we were talking about in the pre show. Just a little bit of ⁓ instead of just ⁓ plowing straight ahead, sometimes it's good to take a step back and look at where we've gone, where we've been, and where we're going. Get context. and ⁓ no ⁓ sorry, it's my audio coming through. Let me hug that a little closer. There we go. No, you sound perfect.
Cody: There you yeah, you're good, man. Now how do I sound? Do I so
Collin Klein: Yeah, you're good to go. It's ⁓ a part of why I I I agreed to do this was ⁓ I've been before Cody started this podcast, I was just calling random family members just to see or people friends that were close to me or people like just to try to get a bearing on where I was and what was happening in the world around me. And the responses I get from people very They used to vary dramatically. Some were violently resistant to even going anywhere introspective or and and just so people understand, my primary friend group were all Christians and they were not willing to go within to look at the inner world at what's happening inside of us and why. and they certainly were not willing to go into the esoteric into the outer world, which is the phenomenological meaning the things that happen in front of our vision, the things that we perceive to be real in outside of our bodies. So it left me in a bit of a quandary. And there were a few friends and ⁓ maybe one or two family members that were willing to go there with me. And Cody was one of them. And it just so happened he won he was doing a podcast and I jumped in right in the middle of this very dark night of the soul that I've been having for almost the last four years, which I'm I'm tired of having a dark night of the soul by the way, so I'm ready for that to be over. Whenever that's done, just for whatever higher powers are out there, just letting you know I'm tired of this. but I understand at the same time why it had to happen this way. So I get it. But yep, go ahead.
Cody: Well Well, I read that book, what's it? Who's I forget who it was, but it's called God Talks.
Collin Klein: Yeah, I've gone through about half of it.
Cody: What do you think of that?
Collin Klein: It's ⁓ energetically and spiritually good. ⁓ I think it's very useful for the vast majority of people. So I I would recommend it to people for sure. ⁓ I got I got I got some good positive stuff out of it for sure. So I'm I don't I don't think it goes but I I think it's ⁓ what I liked about it, it was a very per it sound it sounds very sales pitchy in the writing.
Cody: Yeah. Yeah, so I I r I ⁓
Collin Klein: Like this clearly is a sales guy talking. But when you get into it, it's very personal and I like that. I like whenever people open up at a personal level and articulate what's been going on in their world. So I I I like the book, yes.
Cody: Yeah. Whoa. Well, so I I I listen I got tired of the news. you listen to the news and you can it's gotten so bad you can hear the slant in it, just the way they present it. It's all slanted. So I went out for alternative sources of news and I started listening to soft rep. which is yeah, soft rep. Heard of that? Special Forces Soft
Collin Klein: Soft rep. ⁓ okay. Soft rep?
Cody: Yeah, it's like soft radio, you know, soft rep. They ⁓ David Webb is one of the guys, he's a
Collin Klein: Is it a channel?
Cody: Yeah, it's a YouTube ch it's like a it's a not a YouTube channel, it's actually a web page.
Collin Klein: Okay. No, I have not encountered these guys.
Cody: Yeah, suck.
Collin Klein: Anyway, you found them and then what happened?
Cody: Well I was trying to so this is soft rep right here. That's where I get alternative news. They have different I like guns, they have gun sponsors, they have a whole bunch of stuff. You can go like military news and it'll tell you about the newest, latest, greatest military stuff. And it talks ⁓ everything from a soft like special forces point of view and so I listen to these guys a lot and they had interviewed that guy that did ⁓ the book God talks and I was in ⁓ Kind of a I don't know how you say it, but I kinda was trying to f trying to find some truth, you know what I mean? And I so I read the book. What?
Collin Klein: Cool. Yeah, welcome to the party, pal. I said, Welcome to the party, pal.
Cody: Great line from you know where that line comes from, right? What is that?
Collin Klein: Mm-hmm. Bruce Willis threw a guy out of the window and yelled that to a black guy down below near a cop car. I believe he was Winslow Carlton Winslow, who is also a gay man.
Cody: Black tube?
Collin Klein: Mm-hmm. No no no no he may not be. Although it's very possible he is as well. I'm thinking of the dad from Fresh Prince of Bel Air.
Cody: No. No, yeah. No, th that was the guy you're talking this is the dad that was on with that guy that showed that Urkel. Yeah.
Collin Klein: This is ⁓ family matters. Yeah, family matters.
Cody: She just outed a guy that was No. But anyway, so
Collin Klein: He may not he may be gay. I don't know. He might be gay. Just saying. Very possible. I would not whistle in the graveyard on that one.
Cody: Wow, so anyways. So I I I I every morning well I I what is it? I I I was starting to feel really achy and painful. So I every morning I get up, was doing like a two mile walk. And I put this podcast on and I was doing like twenty-eight minute mile, which you look back at the stats and you're like that ain't crap. That's a horrible mile to walk. Let's just say in the same period of time now I walk six and a half miles in two hours instead of you know two and a half miles in two hours. So but so I I I I put this book on. I was filming really depressed and I started going through this book. So I started doing what it was saying. ⁓ they have you can go on Audible and download the things where they tell you how to meditate. And so I was asking God about the future. I was asking God about, you know, your past and you gotta clear your thoughts and I was asking God about what I should do in the future and he told me to call Colin and this thing for some reason. So and I was looking for some I was looking for something to do. I was feeling really depressed last year. Colin was too. So so I he was telling me all this crazy stuff and I couldn't digest it 'cause it's so out there. So I suggested it'd be fun to do it on a podcast. ⁓ 'cause I had been thinking of I started another YouTube channel and I would I'd gotten all the equipment to do a podcast for that. And that podcast fell apart. But so but I guess prayer led me to call in. And then now we've talked to Ian Burlingame. We've had doc I mean, Colonel Tower counter on.
Collin Klein: Tom Luongo.
Cody: Yeah, I mean that guy was nuts, but that was that was off the rails. And I don't mean in a bad way, the guy's energy is amazing.
Collin Klein: In a in a very good way. Like you did a problem. Yeah. Yeah. Tom is the man, dude. That's all I can say about Tom. I love him to death. He's such a good guy. Like
Cody: I I actually s just stopped trying to edit out all the cuss words when I when he came on I So it's like
Collin Klein: Yeah, no, you can't. That's why I I breached it in the beginning. I broke the ice. I was like, Hey, you can F off what you can say whatever F words you want here. I know it was a little cringy, but it's kind of Tom does his best when he feels comfortable and he's only comfortable swearing. So like
Cody: Actually Well he's apparently so is ⁓ Burlingame. So it's good.
Collin Klein: ⁓ he ⁓ just doesn't give a shit. He doesn't care. Like
Cody: He does not care. ⁓ that first podcast he came on with us he was a lot more like collected. And the second time I think his comfort level was a lot higher 'cause the convers
Collin Klein: Yeah. Well, he was also very tired that night and he came on a little later and he was exhausted, I could tell just from like he he was working all day.
Cody: ⁓ dude, but that was an o that conversation was off the rails. I love talking to him. 'Cause it's like he comes at comes the I don't get to interact with people of the higher ⁓ intellect for very often, so have to kinda ⁓ reach down and enter a different part of my my intellect to e to just pull it in. And it's
Collin Klein: Yeah.
Cody: ⁓ one of the comments that I got on there was like you just you don't say anything. It's like, Well there's so much information coming in and then such a It's such a abrupt matter. It's just like
Collin Klein: Yeah, first off, they the audience you should be listening to ⁓ not us. Like like come on. What are you talking about?
Cody: I'm 'cause I'm like ⁓ you just sat there and didn't say anything. I'm like, well, he he takes off and he's like a rocket. He just accelerates. It was mind blowing the
Collin Klein: Yeah. P Yeah, people that have something to say tend to do that. So a lot of people what's in go ahead, sorry.
Cody: But you know, part of the thing is is so I'm the I I do the I'm the producer and I do all the editing. And the cool thing I like about the people that c you've brought on is I don't have to like source verify everything. Cause in the beginning I wanted to make sure everything that we were putting out there was a hundred percent correct. You know, I think one of the first people we interviewed was And so that's the reason when we started we were real careful about who we brought on. So I you know, the first peop person we interviewed was your cousin was with Daniel, your cousin, my cousin. And then we brought Corey on as a guest and he's kinda hung around. So but and then we brought Jason
Collin Klein: Mm-hmm. Well he's running for office, so we got him like you know, if anything we're we got his back.
Cody: That I never saw coming. The conversations that we've had with him have just enlightened him so much that he felt empowered to go and change things.
Collin Klein: Well, you also become outraged and you want to get in there and see like how bad is this for myself like you need it you need to see this for yourself to see how bad it is. Cause it's
Cody: The and the more the closer we keep getting to the nucleus of just the local politics. It's just
Collin Klein: That it that is the nucleus, by the way. But go ahead. Sorry.
Cody: Well, I mean like we're not even talking about like big boy politics, like federal politics. We're talking just state, county, state. It's just
Collin Klein: The scary thing about it though is the state and local and municipal level politics are all driven by geopolitics at this point. That's what's scary.
Cody: Well especially down here. Things that happen in
Collin Klein: Everywhere. Dude, everywhere. It's global we ⁓ this is globalization writ large. We're all local is international. You've got i go ahead. Sorry.
Cody: Dude, you don't under Since since Trump has taken over, I'm literally thirty five miles from the New Mexico bord the Mexico border. The level of crime has gone through the floor.
Collin Klein: Yeah.
Cody: I mean this is this town's a pretty rough still and there's some town there's some s areas in town you don't want to be in after dark. still.
Collin Klein: I I have a friend whose brother is in one of the cartels and he's like a like he slings dope drugs, you know, he and I saw him ⁓ about a couple months ago and I whenever I see him I always ask him for a situation update from his realm, like what's going on. He's like, dude, they shut this thing down hard. I've never seen anything like it. Like it's It's no like it's crazy like people haven't really recovered on how to readjust to this new dynamic. We're just kind of I feel like he's like I think people are just kind of waiting and hoping that things go back to the way they were to get back to the old business models, but he's like, I don't I don't know. They seem damn serious this time. Like he so
Cody: Well, during when when we were so I didn't live down here during the first round of Trump. but we'd come down here and we were working on the border wall. And you would still see people playing human f we called it human frogger, you know the game Frogger where you're trying to take the frog and go across the road and dodge the cars. Yeah. Yeah, and you would drive down three seventy five loop down in El Paso and people be running across the interstate coming in from Mexico.
Collin Klein: No, I yeah. No, I've seen it myself. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Cody: ⁓ and you would take the what is that road? I keep thinking there's a road that parallels the border from Santa Teresa all the way across to Arizona. And ⁓ you would drive down there through Cul you Columbus and keep going through and you come you know, basically all the like where all the tombstone legends and stuff was, that's all down in that area. The Wild West really happened down in there. man, you don't see anybody.
Collin Klein: Mm-hmm.
Cody: It's like a ghost town. You would look across the border and there'd be these places, people would be held up. You could just see crowds of people standing down there when I was driving. They're empty. It's like a ghost town. They just know they're not getting in. So they've just gone home. And it's just I I didn't think that was gonna be be that severe. It's just you know, it's just impressive.
Collin Klein: So that Back to ⁓ lessons learned and things that we've seen. So yes, so those events have happened. We've seen them unfold. These events have been unfolding in real time. When I first came to you, I was not in a ⁓ position where I felt that things were a hundred percent for sure that they were going to because there one
Cody: ⁓ yes.
Collin Klein: We get so caught up in and you're gonna hear more and more people talk like this, but we get taught caught up in the material aspect of our reality and we lose sight of the impulse behind our materi th what you see happen in the material world, like motivations, why people do what they do, spiritual impulses, karma, conscious consciousness, just to get all the woo woo terms out in the forefront. But people have motivations to do things that they do. Even the most ardent materialists can agree to that.
Cody: Yeah. thing that I find interesting as we keep going along is when you first talked when you were on the phone and you're s the state you're in when we first started this, ⁓ it didn't make any sense. Couldn't connect everything. And the picture that you've drawn to the link to the to the Dutch and then the then the British and it's kind of like you start to understand because it's like, well who is the they in this w what are they trying to do here?
Collin Klein: That's what you kept asking me and I've been trying to make that clear to you. But it's more complicated than just a nation state, even at this point. But go ahead, sorry.
Cody: ⁓ it's like Well, I always thought that like you ⁓ Y you you think about it and you're like, There ha who's the who's the ringleader behind this? Who's the ⁓ there has to be a head guy? No, there doesn't. Does you don't need one central person pulling all the strings. ⁓
Collin Klein: Mm-hmm. It's incentive structures and it's spir it really is spirit spirit. Spirit is going to become more and more obvious as especially in the next five years to people that still have a conscience and a soul. A lot of people don't at this point. A lot of people have divorced themselves from their willing, thinking, and feeling abilities.
Cody: Well, here I this I have this thing that really sums it up. And and it's it's interesting, it's from George Carlin. And I'll well we'll get it up here. This explains it. Here, well we're gonna go like this. Tell me if you can here we go, you ready? So that sums it up, you know what I mean?
Collin Klein: Yeah, no, he was dead on on a lot of things. ⁓ Yeah, I didn't like him for a long time because I thought he was just a pessimist about like I I just I was ⁓ I had a very naive Boy Scout mentality of how the world worked. I hadn't been screwed over by a bunch of people yet. I didn't I didn't see, you know, like I just because I never put myself in a position to be abused or used. I've never like I just why would I do that ever? Like why would I put myself
Cody: Well, but your parents actually did a good job raising you as why? They protected you.
Collin Klein: Well, yeah, well, the d the very fact that I had parents that stick together and I could see the fo like the the insanity that they had to deal with and how they maneuvered through it together is very useful is a very useful education for people. Even if in ⁓ everyone does it imperfectly, every parent no one's perfect, but seeing t a man and a woman navigate insanity together. Imperfectly is a useful education. Because if you just have one parent, you just have one point of context. But if you have two, now you can triangulate things from different perspectives.
Cody: Yeah. Well, cause you get the
Collin Klein: And and from a male and female perspective, which are very valuable for any ⁓ for a boy or girl to see. That's why it's important for men and women to get married and to have children, which is seems to be the way it's laid out. But
Cody: Well, it's it's yeah, that's the heavenly example.
Collin Klein: Well, you we th we're the only ones that can reproduce. As much as they want to say that we can do test two babies and all this, but okay, fine, whatever.
Cody: Yeah, well, what I'm saying.
Collin Klein: But I reproduced in my living room, so I didn't need a doctor or a lab for that, yeah.
Cody: Is that your favorite place?
Collin Klein: Well this is my favorite room now. It's my my tower. This is my wizard tower. Keep my samurai swords, Egyptian plates, and Gnostic books. So
Cody: It's it's that's all the stuff on the walls, right? Well what do you think I got back here? I mean it's not like I don't have Got my exploding outhouse. I mean, I got all the good stuff back there.
Collin Klein: Yeah. I need I need my own space to be to have like my own pla this is I just need one room and this is perfect.
Cody: I I got like a corner. got a what is sixteen hundred square foot house and I get like
Collin Klein: Yeah. I mean this will not be my room for long. We're I mean I mean it'll be my room for maybe the next three to four years, but as soon as I get a little boy
Cody: ⁓ so you're you're still you're s yeah, okay, well I'm glad to hear you're still yeah.
Collin Klein: I don't know. ⁓ yeah, no, of course. No, of course. No, we're we're still ⁓ no, I don't none of us ⁓ me and my wife, we do not feel like we're done having children yet. As crazy as it sounds and feels it's we're not we're it's been it it's no, it's been incredible. It's it's
Cody: I don't know man, there's something about ⁓ it sounds cliche but when a woman that you are in love with is pregnant, there's a way they look. You know. The there's a glow and there's a way they look. It is
Collin Klein: ⁓ yeah. ⁓ for sure. They carry themselves differently. It's it's a very c they're very peaceful in a certain there's a certain calmness that falls over them. It's very interesting. It's not there all the time, but compared to when they're not pregnant, my wife says this all the time. She's like, I love I loved being pregnant. I just felt so at peace. There was like sickness and morning sickness and all that stuff and you know, all the physical pain and all that crap, but
Cody: ⁓ yeah.
Collin Klein: Spiritually inside she was like I felt so like completed in those moments when I was pregnant. 'Cause it's a part of the female spiritual journey to awakening is to be a mother.
Cody: Well
Collin Klein: Men have a different path, but it leads to the same place, more or less. We just don't have a good rite of initiation for men. Go ahead.
Cody: The thing that's My wife is ⁓ is such a great mom that the fact that you can ⁓ that w when she's pregnant she the energy that comes off of her is impressive. But it is pregnancy on her is really difficult. It literally wipes her out and you know that's the reason we it's not that we don't want more children, it's just the
Collin Klein: No, my mine my wife was exhausted and thrown out. She I mean, you would think she would hate it, but then she always goes like this is the best thing that ever happened to me. It wasn't about the discomfort. It was about the f the fulfillment within her. Like she could feel the imagine having a life inside of you that wasn't you.
Cody: Dude, I'm telling you, that was that's crazy when you're sitting there and you're trying to you h you hold your wife's stomach and you feel the little kicking and the and the elbow and you can feel like the h head button and stuff. It's like and then the the the idea that a woman can feel that all the time would be it's an interesting concept.
Collin Klein: it's it's a path of initiation towards seeing the spiritual world physically. They can feel their portals for life, for human consciousness to enter into this world. So and
Cody: Mm-hmm.
Collin Klein: ⁓ I I don't wanna go on this tangent necessarily. ⁓ I wanna keep going. Let's stick stick to where we were. ⁓ sorry. Yeah. ⁓ I mean I would like to go down this road, but we we started somewhere I'm trying to stick to where we start, so sorry.
Cody: Yeah, let's get back onto where we were at. No, but ⁓ ⁓ I'm really good at just taking us down crazy tracks. Yeah. I've been going to I
Collin Klein: Yeah, yeah. So lessons learned.
Cody: Well it's just the ⁓ okay, so yeah. ⁓ When you do the research and you listen to the people that we brought on, they're not full of shit. You connect the dots and then like when Colonel Towner came on, that's when it really when it r when it really came to 'cause she was talking about places I'd been to and seen.
Collin Klein: So can I can I throw something at you that I've noticed this pop up several times and this is a bit of a candid moment between us, but and it's not bad. It's it's something that I've noticed and it's not unique to you. But most humans have a hard time seeing things unless they've experienced them themselves. And that's true of me too. I'm not saying it's not true of everybody, but some people have an imaginational capacity to put themselves in certain positions and kind of play it out in their mind. Everyone can do that, just some people don't do it all the time. And most people need a reference point. You know what I mean?
Cody: ⁓ yeah. Well, some people like Well, I have friends of mine that like that think in colors. I have met people that say they think in numbers. And I I I I think in images. It's like video images.
Collin Klein: Yes. And I think in narrative.
Cody: Yeah. So when she starts talking about this secret base up in the Rockies, I've I know exactly where that is. And so then it's just like a footprint in my mind and you can put the image together and it just it's like now you have all the characters and you have the this the set. But yeah.
Collin Klein: I think in words and meaning. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It dispelled the cognitive where people are are just talking and telling a story and then you got to r you went back and relived and like I've set foot on this place. I know what you're talking about, and now whatever you say, I'm going to probably be more likely to believe you.
Cody: Well no because yeah, exactly. ⁓
Collin Klein: Which can be dangerous because just because somebody set like named a place that you've been doesn't mean that they're necessarily telling the truth.
Cody: But the it's not just that she named the place.
Collin Klein: I I I know. I I brought her on for a reason. I don't think she's full of shit. She's amazing. Like I
Cody: Well, it's because when I was at Camp Hell up in the where they where they actually started the tenth Mountain Division. And then when it got dis ⁓ de de decommissioned after World War Two. If you talk to the locals who've lived there for a long time, they say, ⁓ yeah, the CIA took that base over.
Collin Klein: Mm-hmm.
Cody: And when she started talking about the CIA base in Colorado in the early fifties, I knew exactly what she was talking about 'cause I'd been there. I'd walked the grounds.
Collin Klein: Mm-hmm. No, that's very weird that she brought that up for that episode. That was very strange. Cause I like yeah. Yeah, that's one of those synchronistic moments that I think was important to make this real for you. Because it's very real for me, but to make this whole thing, whatever it is, real for other people, they need their own touchstones.
Cody: I was like, what the what the
Collin Klein: Like a thing they can be like put hands on and be touch grass and be like, this isn't just some idea. I've personally experienced a fraction of this that gives me at least some reference point in my material existence. But most
Cody: Well, the pr the problem I have is is I've done a lot of stuff. And I've worked for done a lot of government projects through my work and the stuff we've done. But you don't wanna know. You don't wanna know. But you see things and then when they connect the duck when they can when they connect them all together and you start then you could start thinking about back about more and more things and going back further and further and you start getting all the other stuff you've worked on, you start root you you mesh it all together, it's just
Collin Klein: What have I been a part of?
Cody: It went from being a crackpock theory to like, ⁓ crap.
Collin Klein: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And that goes for every single serviceman that's ever served for the United States military.
Cody: Yeah, I'm not saying
Collin Klein: All the way back to the beginning to be honest. And it's That being said, and let me be very clear about this, because I don't want people to misconstrue the the the two people that may hear this. I hold our servicemen in the highest regard, ⁓ in the sense that they have whether it's they don't understand what they're being a part of or what it doesn't matter. They are willing to put themselves out there and obviously a bunch of them are kids and all that stuff, but We're in a tough situation where I can't see myself recommending that my children go into the military. I would love for them to. I think the military has a lot to offer terms of, you know, just toughening people up, making them capable, confident, savvy in a skill set. I mean, it's it's an amazing asset to pull on, but At the same time, if you're serving something that is not in the control of even what we call the president, Or the Congress or anything, then who's controlling this apparatus that I'm sending my kid to go off and be a part? It's like the school system. It's like who actually runs this? Well, I've dealt with the people who actually run it and they're insane psychotics that I wouldn't trust to make me a sandwich. Let alone giving them my children.
Cody: ⁓ narcissistic ⁓ dude, they're yeah.
Collin Klein: They're not cap they're not the and it's only gonna get worse over time. Like it's not and that's not me being a negative Nancy about it. I'm saying how I keep asking people how is the school system going to get better? How? Under the current because people haven't looked at it from a s do you know what I mean by systems analysis? Like you're a logistics guy. You understand you need
Cody: ⁓ scarcely.
Collin Klein: product A to get to point B and then this thing needs to happen and that and you need energy transference all along the way. It's not like we snap our fingers and we get the result that we want. A lot of little things have to happen along the way that are a lot of them are self organized.
Cody: Well, yeah. ⁓
Collin Klein: I'm I'm specifically ta I I went all over the place there. So I started with ⁓ I I ended with education, but I was also talking about our kids going into the military. As much as I admire and ⁓ respect our servicemen and women, I do. I really do. And it's not their fault. It's I hate seeing their sacrifice and their bodies being used as fodder for insanity.
Cody: Well, but that's the nature of Yeah, well if I look back at the history of my my my family being in England, that's that's what peop the poor have been used for for millennium. Is they go out and fight the r rich men's war. You know, they it's just the the rich don't have to ⁓ and I and that sounds very communistic speech, like the bourgeoisie and all that other crap, but
Collin Klein: Well well this is well this is where ⁓ in his whole notion of princes comes in is that wasn't always the case. There was a time where the princes of the land or the king or the baron would send his oldest son to be at the forefront of the army to ride in and to do because you wouldn't have the loyalty of the people otherwise. It wasn't like some out of some it was honor, but it was really out of pragmatism. It's like, look, you want these guys to go fight and die for you. You're gonna have to put your firstborn son up as a sacrifice.
Cody: Yeah, you know that that that's very true. Like, ⁓ that's the reason the I think that's the reason well, that's the reason the
Collin Klein: We don't have that anymore.
Cody: Yeah, well the was it ⁓ Royal family over in England right now, you know, like Prince William. He went and was in the military. So yeah, they
Collin Klein: They all were. Yeah, they had to because that was the tradition. You have to do that. And it's all optics. Remember that famous scene of hair
Cody: Yeah. Yeah. Well it's all because they want the uniform and they want the medals and all that other stuff.
Collin Klein: Yeah. Well, they need the story and the legend of them being heroic, capable, strong men capable of fulfilling their position and fulfilling their duty that they were born into. They have to prove themselves. Like a rite of passage. Like remember that there was that scene, ⁓ that news feed like Harry was being interviewed and then all of a sudden a siren blared and he ran off to his helicopter and flew off.
Cody: So that was all you know, staged.
Collin Klein: Obviously staged, but that's what I'm talking about. They staged it for a reason. It mattered.
Cody: Yeah. Like the Queen had her had her had her young her grandchildren on the line, you know, she was putting it out there for it, you know.
Collin Klein: Yeah, ⁓ would take it to another level that these royals are not obviously the like I mean, first off, the world's so complicated. The idea that a single group is organizing all of this together in concert is too much for me. Unless, the the only way I would make an exception would be in the spirit world, which I'd be willing to go there, but I'm not sure we're ready to go there quite yet. ⁓ And by the way, when I bring that up, I'm dead serious about it. I'm not it's very real. And it's something
Cody: That's the thing too that we've gotten some questions on is our spirituality. You know, are we are we atheists? Are we Christians? It's like, well, I I would say we're not atheists.
Collin Klein: Who's been asking that?
Cody: ⁓ I some of the I some of the I you filter the the messages. I mean on some of the bo but now they're emails that they send us send to the YouTube channel.
Collin Klein: Is it like family or Well
Cody: 'Cause you can send it not.
Collin Klein: It's hard to put into language. You know how Christians say you gotta have a personal relationship with your Lord and Savior? Well, I would highly suggest everybody do that and have it have it be very personal and
Cody: Yeah.
Collin Klein: Don't listen to anyone telling you what that is supposed to look like unless you want to and you're ready to take it in. Meaning listen to other people, but don't go looking for a guru or teacher. Go to your heart, listen to your conscience. Listen to the divine speak within you of what is right and wrong first before you listen to me or anyone else.
Cody: Mm-hmm.
Collin Klein: Period. And then we can talk about religion after you've done that. If you go there, we'll have a good time. But most religious people don't go there. That's been my lesson.
Cody: Well the thing that I have The problem I The problem I have is is religion and faith are two different things.
Collin Klein: A hundred percent.
Cody: And I believe in I believe in God. I've seen my life go to crap every time I try to not walk a Christian path. The problem I have is organized religion.
Collin Klein: And it's only gonna get worse. It's only gonna get worse.
Cody: So and I think the problem I think the problem is is that ⁓ It's just the people. And I think it's a me problem. I don't think it's them. They're doing what they think is right, but
Collin Klein: It yeah, it's not the people. I I don't want to go to church not because I don't like them. I like the people there. I think most people go there for more or less the right reasons. I don't really I have no animosity towards people looking for answers or looking for stability in a in a crazy world. Some humans are gonna have to go to these organized places to find some stasis. Because they don't have the capacity to go deeper.
Cody: Yeah. I and I can under
Collin Klein: And they just have to go it's basically daycare for spiritual children.
Cody: ⁓ it's not that. That that's way too No, I it it's not daycare because daycare is them where you drop peop kids off so you can go do other things. And I I not
Collin Klein: Yeah, it pretty much is, unfortunately. Well, that's one way of looking at it, but I'm basically saying that you as an adult are saying, I'm gonna go to this place, live under this structure to hear about the divine from their perspective, and then I'll replicate that perspective into my life so I don't have to take any personal responsibility for my relationship with the divine. That's what's starting to happen. It's what's starting to happen. I'm just look, I'm I'm we don't have to argue about it. I'm just telling you.
Cody: Yeah. I I I'm gonna disagree. I I think no, it's just a debate. It's okay.
Collin Klein: Over the next five years it's become extremely clear that's what's going on.
Cody: I think there are a lot of people out there that are like me and you that just want to find they they know that there is something more into their lives and they want to find the answer.
Collin Klein: Okay, okay, yes, that's different. People go to churches and and some people have not been introduced to the Bible, which ever people should read the Bible. I'm not against reading the Bible. But then they get into a problem where, well, everything in the Bible is the word of God, but it's interpreted through the preacher in front of you. like interpreting an ancient language and in their intention and all this stuff. Now this is where it really matters. Your conscience should be the thing. God did give us a law. But the law isn't in a book. It's not written down in words. It's written in your heart. It has to be because the langu I wish it was in a book. And the Bible's pretty damn close. It's close. And there's a lot and It's it's ninety-nine percent, it's it's almost all good stuff. It's it's an insanely dense tone. I'm not anti-Bible. Everyone should read it. It's gonna be a part of my children's early homeschooling curriculum. They're going to be exposed. Yeah, no, I mean too. I mean, it's no, it's ⁓ I am not a anti Christian. I am a Christian, but not in the sense of how people would describe it. Because once I start telling people like, well
Cody: I have one right here all the time. I mean Yeah, yeah.
Collin Klein: What do you mean you're a Christian? It's like, do you declare Jesus Christ to be your Lord and Savior? And then I ask them, What does that mean to you? And then they freeze up and 'cause they don't know.
Cody: Well the the thing that you're People don't go that deep.
Collin Klein: I that's my point.
Cody: Yeah. People aren't that deep. They don't go that deep. They can't they're not thinking in that realm. And and and to say that, you know, how do you There is a joy that comes to your life when you find the Christian path and you've lived in the wilderness and you've not known and that's a figurative wilderness not necessarily
Collin Klein: ⁓ compared to atheism and nihilism, it is clean water and fresh air like you've never breathed before. ⁓ Hunter I totally agree with you.
Cody: My my jealousy in life, if I had to have one, is you meet these baby Christians that are coming into the faith and their enthusiasm is just amazing. ⁓ it w there's not a lot of cynicism there. They're very enthusiastic. They're very gung ho, let's go get this. They find they find something that's b that that piece that's been missing in it and it's I I I envy them a quite a bit.
Collin Klein: Yes. Right. Yes. Well, it gives them validation to be good people, to live with their heart's desire, which is to be an honest, upright, courageous, structured person. My problem with the Christian church is they are denying that from people as of COVID. Blatantly.
Cody: ⁓ Yes. Be more specific.
Collin Klein: They went along with having their churches shut down over something like that told me a lot. I've we've talked about this countless times. That's the problem, is you guys just showed your hand that you're a business and you're not interested in the investment of souls. You've just proved it. Sorry, that's what it is.
Cody: Well, that's the problem I have right there. Exactly. ⁓ Well the the thing the the so like I don't know if you noticed, one of my things I love history. I'm a history buff. The thing I like about southern New Mexico is you can go see the POW camps that were here and you can walk and you can feel the energy coming off of how bad it was and stuff, you know. So you can kinda get in touch with that World War Two thing. And I've done a I've done I've read the book. It is a long read. It's the complete history of the third right. It's like something like 65 hours of if you listen to the audiobook. So we grew up in the Seventh day of the Religion. And you one of the things I kept hearing in the history was is how all the ⁓ religions that were in in Europe, they always thought it was not going to be them that was going to get criti ⁓ crucified by the Nazis. And ⁓ when you look at what the Aventist Church did during World War Two in Germany, they put Hitler's picture up on the walls. They went along to get along, they didn't want to upset the turnip cart. And I read that book in like 2011. you know, not even ten years later, nine years later, here's COVID nineteen comes in and you w look grow up in a church that your whole life they're singing let Christi the onward Christian soldiers and you know they're you know, talking about like when the ends of times come where you're gonna be one that's gonna stand up, or you're gonna one that's gonna hide and all this power Christian thing.
Collin Klein: Right. I was a more hardcore Seventh day Avenist than most Seventh day Adventists. I think I took this very seriously. I'm like, this is the end of the world. They're trying to like inject us with a bunch of stuff. They're trying to lie. Like they're clearly lying about all of this. None of it scientifically No, even by their own logic of how science works, which I I was pre med. I took organic chem. I took I'm not an idiot like I'm not I've I'm bit exposed I I
Cody: And then they don't. 'Cause it didn't make any sense. It has to be a lie.
Collin Klein: shadowed under surgeons. I've been around the medical field enough to understand the basics. And this was flat out based on just pure conjecture at best. And made up numbers and models and algorithms that came right out of Britain that we just went off of and we never double checked. And all and we don't have to relitigate all that stuff. People You know, you you've noticed how people have gotten quiet over COVID 'cause they all realize how insane it all was and everyone's trying to pretend that they weren't all crazy. Well, guess what? We remember, all right? You made our lives a living hell for years because you were insane and you wouldn't say no. So I'm I'm still a little pissed off about that, folks, but sorry, I'll get over it.
Cody: ⁓ man, and then and the fact that got me really I couldn't tell. I didn't notice you're being upset. No, no, I didn't notice you were upset at all.
Collin Klein: Little I'm a little PO'd about that one.
Cody: Wound up, yeah. Still. Yeah.
Collin Klein: ⁓ no, I'm not wound up. I'm just like don't talk to me about you being a ⁓ not you, but like people that are like, Well, ⁓ you don't go to church, you're not a good person. I'm like all the churches set were willing to sacrifice your life for their business model. All of ⁓
Cody: ⁓ yeah, theoretical you yeah. That's what that's what I was getting to is when you saw the ⁓ the Avenue church. So like
Collin Klein: So
Cody: During that time my ⁓ my parents decided that they were finally going to enter my sister's ashes. So we had her cremate it and we put her in the the whatever that thing's called, I can't remember the name. Decided to enter my sister's ashes because, you know, it felt kinda tacky to have the the dog's ashes next to my sister, you know what I mean? So we went and they didn't ⁓
Collin Klein: Right. Yeah. For sure. Well, first off, don't bury your dog. Just note note to people out there. Just let it go. Be okay. Sorry, go ahead.
Cody: Dude, you you're talking to the choir, man. I just we just my we just had a cat pass away and we just spent like four hundred bucks on cremation for a cat. It was like
Collin Klein: I understand. I understand. I understand. Sorry. No, no. I I I That's are even worse. Wow. Okay. Ugh, all right, whatever. Yep.
Cody: ⁓ I know. But anyways, ⁓ so we had my sister and Twert in The thing that kept me going during that whole entire time is like, you know, it's nothing makes you feel more just totally excited about what you're doing when you get the letter from your governor. And you probably didn't get this, but I you know, saying that you congratulations, basic and I'm paraphrasing, but congratulations, you're an essential employee. And if you get and they I had this letter that would let me through roadblocks if they were going to so I could get into places. And I'm like, what kind of crap is this?
Collin Klein: Mm-hmm.
Cody: But ⁓ The thing that kept me going was is like the faith. God will protect me. That's the whole reason that I had a good experience driving truck is my faith.
Collin Klein: Yes.
Cody: And you know, I you know, God's gonna take me when he wants kind of thing. And when the pastor we asked the past my my I couldn't make it well, my dad asked the pastor to come and say a few words when we interred my sister's remains or the ashes. And this man that who got in front of my parents and told them that you know, live like a good Christian. Go out there and meet the world, it's too afraid to come out. And this is before they had even had the shutdowns. They were talking of rumors of shutdowns. This is in like early March of twenty twenty. And he wouldn't come out because he was afraid. It's like, Well, you're the pastor and you don't even have faith.
Collin Klein: Mm-hmm.
Cody: You don't have faith in God and you're the pastor.
Collin Klein: It it's not even faith. It's like you want to be a spiritual leader and you're this dense that you can't even look at because this is not hard. This wasn't a hard IQ test to pass. This was pretty easy. It was all peer pressure. The whole thing was peer pressure. It had zero to do with facts, anything, and we all know it. That's why everyone's quiet about it, because they know they all failed the test.
Cody: Yeah, dude, it's like
Collin Klein: And as far as I'm concerned, I'm gonna rub their noses in it 'til the day I die. 'Cause they
Cody: Dude, I you you you ⁓ the the the thing that was positive that came out of it two things. You found the churches that you actually belonged in because the pastors and that congr and the congregation that fought back against that shit. That's the people you want to go to. Dude, there were there were three mega churches, no two mega churches in Albuquerque that did it.
Collin Klein: There were very few. There were very few. There were not many.
Cody: And now they're actually they're so fed up with the government that the churches, those two churches in Albuquerque are putting up their own political candidates now.
Collin Klein: I that's what I've been begging for forever. It's like, yes, like a hundred percent.
Cody: Yeah. And it's like when is it when when in our hist and my I'm forty four years old and when in my history has the endorsement of the church, a church in the city and that endorses them? You never sought a church's endorsement. It's just like, dude, this is nuts. And then down here Part the reason I never look for a church here in Las Cruces is because they were all closed when I moved down here. I moved down here in early twenty one, like January of twenty one. You know it's
Collin Klein: Mm. Yeah, I I really think house churches are gonna be the way of the future going forward. It's the the reality of the ⁓ of the material world is gonna get way too complicated that not everybody is gonna be able to ⁓ like I would say people over the age of forty, maybe thirty-five, thirty-four, ⁓ thirties even, they're gonna have a hard time.
Cody: Small group.
Collin Klein: readj when you're in your thirties, you can still readjust to reality to some degree. Most people at a certain age, once they find a steady career and a pattern of life, they tend to just stay static and just stay there until the day they die.
Cody: Yeah, you get comfortable with the routine.
Collin Klein: Well, you and then also survivalism kicks in and you're just trying to stay ki some people just trying to keep their head above the water and then the people that find their nest egg, like their path forward to retirement and death, then yeah, they just, you know, go along with it because that's the meal ticket.
Cody: Well yeah, I know. I you know, the idea that I've spent Like thirty years. I started working, I was thirteen and you know, I started putting four money away in my four ⁓ one K. And you're like, Yeah, I only got like thirty five thousand dollars, which is horrible amount for some of my age. The idea of risking it 'cause it took so long to make it, you're like you you're not really risk aversed anymore 'cause you know, it's so hard to to save that kind of money. They w you know You're not gonna go out like you would in your twenties and try to put yourself your ass on the line and try to find something new and great and amazing.
Collin Klein: Yeah, time becomes a lot more valuable when you get older.
Cody: Well, that's the reason too, they say like guys in their forties and their fifties are more likely to file for divorce than they are in their twenties and thirties. Because
Collin Klein: Mm. Midlife crisis kicks in and they're like, ⁓ my god, I made a horrible mistake.
Cody: ⁓ it's not a midlight crisis. It's like how many more years do I want to put up with this shit? I got so much by ⁓ yeah.
Collin Klein: That's that's what I mean. That's what it's called. I'm not saying it's a cry, but it's like some people and and I agree that some men need to get divorced. I'm like I am not, especially like once the kids are like grown up to a certain degree, it's like a lot of men need to get out of their relationships, they're crazy wives. Like, I'm totally fine with that. I'm I'm not I don't like divorce. I think it'd be better for men to just but some women are just inconsolable. They're not Capable my wife thank God is not one of ⁓ or else I wouldn't be saying this. I'd be lying straight to your face. But that's I
Cody: No, my my wife is
Collin Klein: Sorry.
Cody: The more the the the more older I get th I realise more of the problems that I've had with my wife are not her, they're me.
Collin Klein: Yes. Yes, correct. Yeah. They're a mirror and they reflect yourself back to them if and and no. And she's been very
Cody: Well they don't ⁓ you don't like what they're saying because they're saying the truth and they're telling you what you need to hear instead of what you wanna hear.
Collin Klein: Right. Yeah, yeah, I'm not talking about those people. I'm talking about women that are just straight up sociopaths that lie, cheat, and steal and twist the truth to whatever ends, and will never ever reconcile that or come like come like be like, okay, here's what reality is. Have baseline reality with you. Women that are just in fantasy land. And there's many, many of those out there. But it's
Cody: ⁓ yeah. Yeah. What is that book? I read this book a while back called the The Narcissistic Woman. So
Collin Klein: Yeah. I mean men are capable of being narcissists and many are, but a lot of men just don't have time to even think about being a narcissist. It's like
Cody: Mm-hmm. No, I I'm not saying any anyone has the capacity to ⁓ be a sociopath, so
Collin Klein: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm saying that a w a women at home, when they get bored and they nanny their kids out and they don't have to do anything, they start going kind of crazy.
Cody: Yeah, like those desperate housewives or what what is it ⁓
Collin Klein: Yeah, exactly. And they all watch that show for a reason. It resonates.
Cody: ⁓ dude. Dude, I cannot stand it's like these chicks are going off these gu girls are going off about the horrors of this and the horse.
Collin Klein: It's disgusting. And it's all obviously fake, but it's like why are we it's like it's like at least watch professional wrestling, you know? Do something that it it is, but it's dumb and gay. Like it's just like ⁓ it's a little I mean, it's still dumb and gay, but it's at least ridiculous and absurd enough that you can, you know you realize you're still watching a show. A lot of these people watch these shows and they replicate it in their own personal lives.
Cody: Well, you are watching professional wrestling. And so is professional wrestling. ⁓ dude, it's like the idea My daughter asked me the other day, she's like, How come I talk to my friends and their houses are all so chaotic? I'm like, Because they're they people thrive on drama. And they're like, Well how come our house doesn't do that? 'Cause I don't thrive on drama. I don't want it. I don't need it. And if it comes here, go find it somewhere else. We're stocked up, you know.
Collin Klein: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm. Mm hmm. Amen. Absolutely.
Cody: That's my favorite line out of ⁓ what with is what is it, The Good As It Gets with when he sits there, when the lady's sitting there she's going off about, you know, can you take care of this guy? And he's like, Yeah, I'll take care of it and she goes off on some I forget it, and he goes, Sell crazy somewhere or else we're all stocked up here You know it's like
Collin Klein: Yeah. ⁓ Yeah. Not
Cody: And then the other thing is when that lady walks up to him and he's at the publisher because he writes books. She goes, How do you get into here so well? It's like you go from here in here and here. And he looks at he goes, How do you write women so well? He goes, I think of a man and rem remove accountability and responsibility and I get a woman or something like ⁓ that's a great movie. Helen Hunt was hot in that movie too.
Collin Klein: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Jack Nichols. Yeah. Jack Nichols at his best. So No, it's okay. No, we're we're on topic. We're good.
Cody: But we we got off topic, I apologize. No, but so you know, it's like you have all these distractions. It's like that is the modern day version of the Colosseum. Why did Caesar have the c Colosseum and the and the circus and the all these buildings is to distract the populace.
Collin Klein: Yeah. Yeah. Number of reasons is one to show the grandeur of the system, to show how powerful it is, that we can get people to sit in this ar like to come to this arena and fight to the death against reptiles, lions, and men and recre you know, we can do that and then you, the populace, sit there and watch it and you get to enjoy your entertainment off of it. But also but it's also sh let us show you how powerful we are by putting on this show.
Cody: Well, that's the same thing the government does now. It's the
Collin Klein: It's what it's always they always do this, every single one throughout human history. It's there's not there's not a single exception. So why do we think that's not happening now? Well the reason we don't think that is because people don't know that's what's happened before.
Cody: Exactly. Well it's like Well that's what they're th they don't know that that's what they're doing.
Collin Klein: I know, but I'm saying that people don't know like you said, people don't know history. They don't under they they have no context. They're they it's like when you listen to the commentariat talk, like the the the more common people that or the the what what's more in the mainstream, they think history started at World War Two. And that's that's if we're lucky, you know?
Cody: ⁓ yeah, we're saying the same thing in a different well. What is that
Collin Klein: They don't go back to anything before that. They don't go to World War One. They don't go to the Spanish American War. They don't go to the the the Russo Japanese War. They don't go to the Crimean War. They don't go to the Civil War of England. They don't go to any of the Napoleonic Wars. They don't talk about any like I'm just talking about wars. There's a bunch of other things that happen in between there, but they don't talk about it. One. Because we have an attention span and we want to be immediately fed on what's happening here and now. So it's it makes sense why this has happened. It's just frustrating that we're kind of trapped in it.
Cody: Yeah. Yeah, I know. It's ⁓ it it it just yeah.
Collin Klein: 'Cause it's like if if people just understood a little bit more, a little bit, not even a whole lot, just it'd be like, okay, this would all be over. Like they wouldn't be able to pull this crap off on ⁓ on us anymore. But I think that is happening and that's why I've become also a lot more calm. I I I was at a point where I was like, I don't think humanity I I think we may have to go I I I got blackpilled. I got into the doom cycle of I don't think humans are capable of pulling up out of this nosedive.
Cody: Well, I could show you exactly also why what a lot of people believe in history here in the United States. Here let me show you this. This is my favorite quote. Here right here. Yeah. Yeah, so yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and I
Collin Klein: Don't fully don't fully agree with that, but more or less, yeah. I I'm I'm good with that.
Cody: Well, not s I'm not saying I agree with it, but that's a lot of the way people look at h history.
Collin Klein: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, it's a good example. But and it's also people just don't see how it's relevant to their everyday lives. I didn't either. I looked at that stuff because I was just authentically interested. I just thought it was very interesting. But now it's like what they did, they shut down our businesses. They told us what we could say, what articles of clothing we had to wear, how we had to behave in public. All like that.
Cody: And it's funny too. If you didn't wear your mask you were shunned. Yeah. Yeah.
Collin Klein: And it's like, okay, why did that happen? Well, you're gonna have to go back and backtrack the power structure and all and reverse engineer the whole thing to figure out how it all happened. And my annoyance that I have is not enough people have done the work to see how it actually happened. Or to give it at least a good faith effort. You know, it's like I'm not God, I don't know everything, you know, like none of us are. It but ⁓ let's at least try, you know? Let's at least try to understand why this happened.
Cody: Well the thing that Well, the the thing that sucks when you start looking into history, you're not gonna like what you find. And that's what they people don't wanna do is they don't wanna find things they don't like.
Collin Klein: Exactly.
Cody: Like I I remember I was listening to Hillary Clinton talk. She says, I'm a proud recipient of the Margaret Sanger Award. I go, who's this Margaret? I keep hearing about this Margaret Sanger chick. Who the hell so I look her up and I'm just like, holy crap.
Collin Klein: Yeah.
Cody: Margaret Sanger was one of the most racist people ever in the to live. Completely
Collin Klein: First off, I will say I agree with Jesse Lee Peterson that racism is not real.
Cody: Okay.
Collin Klein: I I don't think it's real. I don't think I I'm not saying that people aren't mean to each other or prejudice against whatever reason. But as an institution, racism is an a a thought construct that people have manifested. It's not it's not real, it's an idea.
Cody: Well the reason I Well, it's just like the concept of fair. It's not real. There's it can't exist, never will exist. There is no such thing as it. But
Collin Klein: Well, I mean, there is equilibrium in the universe, but if you're expecting fairness, yes, a hundred percent. No, that's not that doesn't
Cody: No, no, the the idea of fair is flawed. And the idea that someone thought that something should be fair is how you get communism.
Collin Klein: If you're looking at the material world, a hundred percent I agree with you. If you're looking at the spiritual world, everybody gets their dues. Everybody. No one gets away with anything.
Cody: Yeah. But that but that's not fair. That's something totally else.
Collin Klein: No, that is very fair. It's all it's the ultimate fairness. It's like you don't get away with anything.
Cody: Yeah, but what I'm saying Yeah, but my my daughter comes up to me, she tells me all the time, she's like, Well that isn't fair and I'm like I tell her, Fair is a flawed concept. We don't talk about f flaw flawed concepts around here. But ⁓ When you w I've been in the South mm about twenty years ago and I've come across some people that were like some real clan members down there, like some skinheads and stuff. And so I mean the idea that I think racism is a made up concept that people take very seriously.
Collin Klein: Mm-hmm. It's understandable how it arose out of just basic Well yes, resentment is always the thing or fear in any pre but but the problem is we've allowed resentfuls to define the term called racism.
Cody: But it's envyism. It's envy.
Collin Klein: We've allowed our enemies to define the terms of battle. That's the first mistake. They should have never been given authority to define terms. They're resentfuls. They're gonna make everything sound horrible. They're never gonna see the silver lining in anything. They're not gonna ever look at, yeah, slavery is bad, but look at what happened and you know, the good story like
Cody: The thing that the thing that gets me is in the United States when you say slavery they want you to think of black people. You know there was more than just black people that were in slavery in this country.
Collin Klein: ⁓ yeah. ⁓ yeah, no, I know yeah.
Cody: And and that's the thing that gets me ⁓ it's like, ⁓ I will do my my
Collin Klein: And it was a global institution. It wasn't it was certainly not just the United It was everywhere all over the world. That's the problem though. People don't understand like that's that's true. You're right. They were we're taught in school like American history back to slavery, and then that's all we're taught about the Civil War. Like we're not taught about anything else. We're not talking about the financing, about who financed it, who who was the money backers behind it, why did it actually happen at a geopolitical level? It's just slavery. That's retarded. That's literally stupid. That is not to say it was it slavery had a large part to do with it. It did. Because it
Cody: Mm-hmm. That's the reason we got why do you think we went to war with the Muslims down there in ⁓ you know the the song to the shores of Tripoli? ⁓ the pirates. What were the I forget the what they were called, but we went to
Collin Klein: ⁓ yeah, the ⁓ the Barbary. Yeah, Barbary Pri Yeah, but that was an insurgency of European powers. That wasn't even pirates. They were all backed by Europeans. That was a proxy war. Sound familiar?
Cody: Barbary pirates. Yeah, but I understand, but They were s they were they were styled they were the Barbary Pirates were doing commerce raiding is the best way you could describe it. They would they would take over the ships and they would emslave the crews and I'm pretty sure that there was a lot of white folks that got put into ⁓ Muslim slavery. And and if you talk about Africa and there's still slavery.
Collin Klein: I I I yeah, the no go go with your original premise. Yep.
Cody: There's still tons of slavery. Even now, there's more people enslaved now than there was ever in the whole history of the United States. Slave trade.
Collin Klein: Mm-hmm.
Cody: And so the idea that Yeah. It's it's a victim mentality that they're pushing that they're trying to get these people to hate each other because of the pigment or the ⁓ of their skin. And it's just mind boggling.
Collin Klein: Yeah Yeah, an anyone with like any sense of awareness understands that skin pigment matters very little to one's ability to be a human. Duh. Like that's not hard.
Cody: ⁓ yeah, here we go. I I can't I typed in white slavery and it brings up the Barbery Pirates right here.
Collin Klein: Yeah, no, it's it it's a st it's an arg
Cody: Well, between one and one point two five one point one and a quarter million Europeans were captured by the Barbary pirates and sold into
Collin Klein: It's an argument I don't even really get into because it's so stupid on its face. Like it's just you're dealing with crazy people that want to make an argument instead of like actually come close to the truth. And no, it's it's ridiculous. Now that doesn't mean that we divorce and say, ⁓ yeah, black blacks in America were treated like ⁓ like wonderful, like everything was great. No, it was obviously horribly messy, but and there were Bad thing, but it doesn't matter. I don't even like that's the problem. This we get sucked into this conversation and we're talking about the Civil War when there's bigger things that were afoot during that, way bigger than slavery. Slavery was a footnote as far as I'm concerned in the Civil War. It was a major footnote, but not the main driver. Not even close. That was an attempt to break up the United States of America by European powers.
Cody: There was a lot of things there, and that's one of them too, yeah. But the thing is that gets me is when people try to justify the South's but.
Collin Klein: And we just lived through another one, by the way. They're still trying to break us up. We're going through it now. But go ahead, sorry.
Cody: ⁓ yeah. I I was someone was trying to tell me that that the South wanting to leave the wanting to leave the United States it wasn't slavery or any of the other stuff. But when you read the Confederate constitution, it's there.
Collin Klein: No, yeah, it wasn't I mean, slavery was a part of it because it was like okay, 'cause it came down to property rights because the slaves at the time were on the balance sheet of slave owners. And they were a major part of the industrialization of the South, but that was not the major impetus for the Civil War. It was there as a cultural impetus.
Cody: It was it was in It was in the mix, but it you know, it it
Collin Klein: It yeah. There were big there was big money behind it. Big money.
Cody: So the problem that we have is Well, the problem that people forget is there was a government model before the federal model. That came around in eighteen seventeen ninety one.
Collin Klein: Yeah, ⁓ was talking about this last time we had him on.
Cody: And Yeah. And we were a confederacy before we were a federal government.
Collin Klein: They agree to the Articles of Confederacy instead of centralizing governance. I agree yes. I i and that's my argument with ⁓ He's like, and I'm not sure where he sits on this. I don't see how in the global world that we can operate outside of a federal government. And I hate to say that because I hate the federal government, but at the same time it's like you need
Cody: But it didn't work, so that's the reason they came up with f federal federalism.
Collin Klein: I don't know anyone that's anti like say they're anti-federalists that doesn't agree that we need a collective defense state. The problem with that is once you have a collective defense state, you now have a collective intelligence state. And what does intelligence do? It tells you what's real and what isn't.
Cody: Yeah, it can tell you that your that your lying eyes aren't seeing.
Collin Klein: Exactly. So who runs the intelligence state and the that's what we're sorting out now. We're trying to figure out who actually runs this country. That's what we're in the process of discovering, in my opinion. Not even my I think that's so self evident at this point. It's like ridiculous. Like there is a faction in this country trying to smoke out subversives to a more autonomous sovereign state. 'Cause think of it this way, and ⁓ talks about this all the time. It's like if you're a baron or a lane or a local landowner or somebody with a lot of assets, you want to protect your assets. Well, how do you do that? Well, ninety-nine percent of the time it's go along with the powers that be that are under control of your situation. Make deals, you know. But they're com but what happens when They decide to strip you down no matter what you do or say, and offshore your assets to another entity that they can control more effectively, and then you're just left in the dust, penniless. That's what the American Revolution that's how it really started. And that's what the Civil War was really about. It was about asset asset forfeiture going to other entities.
Cody: Yeah.
Collin Klein: And being h and people losing their wealth, the princes and the oligarchs losing their wealth. There were not that many slaveholders in the south compared to those who actually fought. They were the landed gentry. They were afraid of losing their assets. And it wasn't just their slaves, it was productivity. Which obviously involves slaves, a hundred percent. But but that's what it always comes down to is productivity. Are you going to take my stuff away from me? That's really what wars and these geopolitical shifts that's that's why that all happens. The only and EM's argument is that if you want to keep your wealth, you need to be tied to the land and tied to the people around you so that when the shit hits the fan, the people will come to your defense and aid when it's needed. Because this idea, the arrogance of the of the administrative state as we live under, is they are totally divorced from the land. They're intranationalists, they don't live in any one place. And they just think they're masters of the universe and they think they're protected because they have access to the networks that control the money and military force. And they've neglected the populace. And they think they can just keep psyoping us into resentful revolutions like communist revolutions that the city of London always perpetuates and bankrolls every single time as a fake revolution. To basically control the population, like here's your fake alternative. That's what the Democrat Party is today. All these millionaires and all like Bernie Sanders, the billionaires, they're taking everything. Well, he's a millionaire telling you that they're all taking everything. It's like, Well, how about you give all your money up to the poor for the cause, Bernie? Like
Cody: Well I do find it interesting that you know, I'm not gonna sit here and say I was a a fanboy of Lindsey Graham. Yeah, you know, and I'm sad I'm sorry to see him pass away. But you well, I'm sorry that anyone passes away like that, you know, unexpectedly. I I don't think he should have been at politics, but ⁓
Collin Klein: I'm not. But go ahead. He's getting one hell of a life review right now. Let's just go with that. He'll be alright. Lindsay's still with us. He's still around.
Cody: Well, what a what I'm getting at is you look at Lindsey Graham and when he left he'd been in politics thirty years. I don't know exactly how, but they pretty long time he's been around.
Collin Klein: Probably. Yeah, I think about thirty. Yeah. I don't know.
Cody: And I looked up his his net asset wealth. It was worth one point four million dollars.
Collin Klein: Yeah, everyone's been talking about that. I don't know because look, here's the thing with all these guys is I don't know how many layers of games anyone is playing. And also there's a thing called blind truss. Do you know what those are? A blind trust, yeah.
Cody: Line trusts. ⁓ yeah, where you put a yeah. You s you
Collin Klein: ⁓ talked about it. Basically you Yeah, it's it's off the ledgers. Like you don't see it, it's not accounted for part of your assets or wealth. It's
Cody: So you're saying maybe he was better at hiding the money?
Collin Klein: It's not even hard. I could get a Swiss bank account if I really w well not really. And not a Swiss one. No, not a Swiss one. But I could get a bank account in the Caymans. If I wanted to if I really wanted to, I could.
Cody: You don't have enough money. So thought you had to have twenty grand to open
Collin Klein: That I mean, this stuff is fairly accessible for the population and that's and they kinda want it that way because it becomes this just giant milieu of hidden money. We don't really know what and who owns what on the face of the planet right now. Not really. There's some people that probably have a good idea of who actually owns it, but it's not us. And those are the that's this gatekeeper class that we keep running into. Cause they have access to the the rights, the deeds, the assets, who actually owns what and how and why and what's the legitimacy for it. We have a serious problem we don't even know what things cost anymore. We don't have any idea. Like I mean, energy costs, yes, that's a good metric because it's here in the moment. But what energy could cost, we have no idea.
Cody: Well
Collin Klein: Because everything is limited and controlled.
Cody: Yeah. Yeah.
Collin Klein: So went off on a tangent there, but you were talking about Lindsey Graham and you you you you were saying because yeah, no, at least he wasn't corrupt. I've seen those stories floated around.
Cody: I didn't say it wasn't corrupt. I didn't I I I can't I don't
Collin Klein: No, you didn't say that. I apologize. You're right. You did not say that.
Cody: I'm saying is I find it interesting that when you look up his assets that he had on the books, at least his prep the the appearance is that he had 1.4 million. And you look at Bernie Sanders, who once says that there shouldn't be millionaires and millionaires. They need to give all the money tax the rich, tax the rich. He's worth like four. He has four houses.
Collin Klein: Well, Lindsay had better access to certain networks than Bernie Sanders probably does, but it's still very possible that he was a good, honest broker and lived out what he believed. I I can buy that. He was an old guy, an old gay man from South Carolina that
Cody: Do you know he was gay?
Collin Klein: ⁓ like that's an open that's a that's an open secret in Washington. That's not even like yeah.
Cody: Alleged allegedly. Yeah, but Allegedly gay.
Collin Klein: Look, I've I'll put that on me. I, Colin Klein, am accusing the ghost of Lindsey Graham as being gay. Yes.
Cody: Okay.
Collin Klein: So I'll take that one to my gr that's fine. He can sue me. He knows where to find me. So ⁓ no, I don't know for sure it's a hundred percent fact, but that's like I mean at this point it's like as understood as Hoover. Not Hoover. ⁓ Jay yeah, Jay Egg Hoover being gay yeah, no, I mean it's like it's like it's there's actually been some guys that have come forward and talked about it, but it's it's hard to verify these things 'cause like how do you verify it? Do you have a recording? It's like probably not.
Cody: ⁓ yeah. J. Edgar Hoover.
Collin Klein: So it's like people just get to accuse other people of these things and if you have legal cover it's it is really hard to prove rape. It's very difficult.
Cody: Well.
Collin Klein: And forget about rape. I'm not even saying he raped anybody. I'm just saying like if he got a male if he was into male prostitutes, that's really hard to prove.
Cody: I think we're getting off the topic here.
Collin Klein: No, I'm down to go down this about the yeah, about pro ⁓ okay. All right, well you push. All right.
Cody: I don't really want to though. I don't really No, I'm just saying that you look at the prep the preponderance is that, you know, l you know, you have Bernie Sanders coming up and talking about how great socialism is and he's just making a ton of money off of capitalism. ⁓ it's just
Collin Klein: Yeah, it's a little silly, but he also probably has the best chance of running for president for the Democratic Party as of right now. I think I actually think that may be in the cards for the next cycle. He's getting pretty old though, so who knows?
Cody: Well, I mean if Yeah. Well Gavin Newsom's definitely Dev Gavin Newsom's definitely gonna have a problem running.
Collin Klein: I mean my bet has always It's it's i it it's not gonna work. They they they threw out some tests fly. It's not gonna work. No, ⁓ he's just it's impossible. Kamala's try they're all try they don't have they're they're running into this problem. They were hoping to run the clock out and they're running out of time. Now they're the ones that are running out of time.
Cody: For him or Be ⁓ what do you mean?
Collin Klein: ⁓ I've been saying this for about six years. The Democrat Party is going to go the way of the Whigs. It will not exist in the near future. I'm not willing to put a timeline of when exactly it's gonna happen. I don't know. All I can see is they have metaphysically committed suicide. They cannot be trusted by any sound minded person ever again. And I'm not saying the Republicans are trustworthy, but they're better. liars than these people are. It's not they're not even lying at this point. They're just straight up insane and they're betting that the majority of the population is as crazy and unhinged as they are as what they're putting forward. Cause the higher ups that run the DNC, they're not they don't believe in any of this shit. They're just trying to control people and get power. But
Cody: That's the thing that gets me about them is it's like They don't care what they have to do. They just want to stay in power.
Collin Klein: Yeah, it's war. And they're materialists. They don't believe in any like metaphysical good or bad or ramifications for action. They don't believe in any of that stuff at all. Not even a little bit. They're total mercenaries, cold blooded assassins. I respect I respect the Democratic Party. I respect them a hell of a lot more than I do the Republicans.
Cody: Hey yeah.
Collin Klein: They are vicious, violent, crazy, but focused people. And they're worthy of respect.
Cody: Well
Collin Klein: The Republicans are the most ridiculous hodgepodge bunch of old insane men that think commercials are gonna win you elections.
Cody: Well the thing is that thing that gets me about the Democrats is how lockstep they got their messaging down. And, you know, you look at the the Republicans and they're mess they're you know, they're all over the place.
Collin Klein: Yeah, no, it's easy for people that don't believe in anything to just say, look at the bad guys. Well, no, they like their whole party is built on anti Trump, anti right, right wing. They look, we're not these guys. Look how crazy they are. They're telling they're saying all these crazy things. They're against the blacks, they're against the gays, they're doing all this other stuff and
Cody: Whatever it takes, yeah.
Collin Klein: And they're trying to bait us into those conversations so that they can fight us on their ground and be like, You're against these people 'cause you don't believe in equal rights. It's like, look, we're trying to get the budget balance and we're trying to get all this other stuff under control. And when's the last time you guys ever talked about the budget? Or fraud or military conquest? Like
Cody: Well, it's really hard to when you when it's really interesting when you're trying to talk about all this what is it self righteous things and when you're basically using your party platform as graft. So that way, you know, you don't believe in global warming. You're only doing it because it's a better way to steal money. You you don't believe in social injustice. You just want these people to get you in power so that they can use the government as you know I like what ⁓ did you see that episode you were you weren't there when Chris King came on the second time, were you, Ukraine?
Collin Klein: No.
Cody: When he when he was saying his theory is is the Democrats are basically political ⁓ well politics is in New Mexico is basically political ⁓ what is it, money laundering.
Collin Klein: No.
Cody: You know. And and and and the more you think about it
Collin Klein: Yes.
Cody: Every time we get in there and we start cleaning stuff up they get real mad because they you know, USAID and you do all this stuff and you know now they're they're mad because they're losing their money stores.
Collin Klein: Let's be very clear about that. Did we do that or did the faction backing Trump do that? Look, I I don't think Trump could do what he did without the backing of the American people as much as he ha like I don't think I I I do think that the work that everyday people put in mattered in creating the conditions for him to do what he's doing now. That being said, when it comes to local polit politics or even state level, it a hundred percent comes down to money. Almost every time. I know people try to say that it doesn't, it does. It just any political, any political strategist, anybody in that world will tell you create crafting a story in marketing, that's the easy part. It's the money. It's always the money. Obviously. Like I don't know why this is a shock to people. Not I'm not saying it is to you. I know you understand this. I'm just saying like I knew this when I was ten and it's like I'm seeing adults wake up to this now and I'm like, Jesus, like we got some work to do folks. Like
Cody: No, no, yeah, I'm just like diggesting.
Collin Klein: I that's ⁓ that's I don't know what it is. It's like people watch fairy tales so long they believe Fox News is another fairy tale and they just listen I I don't it's not even Fox, it's just I mean, it really comes down to people are just overwhelmed and exhausted. And we're we're entering into an accelerator ⁓ like events are gonna happen so quickly now, faster than they've ever happened in human history. You're gonna have decades take place within a year, and it's only gonna get faster. That very few humans are gonna be able to keep up with all this, and a lot of humans are gonna just
Cody: Yeah.
Collin Klein: Crash out, basically.
Cody: Yeah.
Collin Klein: And God bless the boomers, but I don't think they're most of them are equipped for this.
Cody: They just can't take the mental start. Well, you know, we've got a lot of heat for our criticism of the boom boomers before. Hey, knock it off.
Collin Klein: I'm not criticizing them, I'm just saying a fact, you guys lived in a different world than we did, and you know what you know. That's it. It's not your fault, it's what happened. And you guys hold all the wealth and make all the decisions and you think things are a lot more simple than they actually are. They're extraordinarily complicated.
Cody: Yeah.
Collin Klein: And I would love for the boomers to find some humility to reevaluate why and how all this crazy stuff happened. And a lot have, many have. But most have not. That's my criticism of the boomers. It's not that I and I love boomers. I don't hate them. I just I wish you guys would just take a step back and look at the decisions you've made and look at why you believe what you believe and just reevaluate everything. That's it.
Cody: Well the problem is when you had people coming home from World War Two and they started having the boomer generation, this idea of everything's gonna just keep going up and up and up and up, you know, buy a house, do this, buy a house, generations of this stuff. The problem is is that's not the way it was before World War Two. And the boomers were born into this idea
Collin Klein: They were born into the golden age, into the age of prosperity, so all they saw was prosperity.
Cody: Yeah, and that prosperity was brought on by their parents coming back from war, thus the baby boom and all this other stuff. And
Collin Klein: Yes. Fourth turning. Yep.
Cody: And when you look at that same thing happened after the Civil War, they had this boom for a couple you know, two one or two generations and then it started the plateau, and that's when you had the Great De R the Great Depression and it drops. And we're at that point now. Eighty years after
Collin Klein: Yes. Yep. That's what that's all about. Right there.
Cody: Yeah. Eighty we're on that eighty year cycle. We're coming up to the end and you're gonna watch a great reset. And I don't mean that one like Glenn Beck, but well, it's it things are gonna go back to the way they were. That's the reason.
Collin Klein: Yeah. But this is no no no no no no no no no. They are not going back to the way they were. No.
Cody: Well, as far as like owning houses and generational
Collin Klein: No well maybe we'll see. I hope so, but I I'm not even holding my breath out for that. It's so
Cody: Well, you can't sustain these housing prices, man. You can't expect people to be spending half a million dollars for houses. And the idea
Collin Klein: No, there there will be some adjudication here here's what I don't trust as far as the Trump side goes, 'cause here's this is my anti Trump thing. It's not anti Trump. It's I have a deep sneaking suspicion with Look, th we live in the age of Donald Trump right now because he has sucked all the oxygen out of the room by the very nature of his character and how present he is and how hard he works. So everything we talk about is in relationship to Donald Trump, whether we like it or not. Because he's
Cody: Well, the thing that's getting me right now with him is they kept saying that if he keeps this up, he's gonna pull us into World War Three or the World War Four, depending on w what crowd you're talking to. But I think he's getting really close. What?
Collin Klein: We've been in World War Three. We've been in World War Three. I know what you mean, like a hardcore kinetic. That's not okay. This actually is gonna bring us back to what I really wanted to go down the road with you on was When people say World War Three, what do you think that looks like? Who is our enemy and who are we gonna fight against? What are you talking about?
Cody: The thing is is like realistically if you think about it, the Cold War was the third world war. It wasn't a kinetic war though. Although we were doing a It was
Collin Klein: Correct. It was Vietnam, Korea, those were all that was all the Cold War. Cuba I mean, all those wars during that time, the that was the Cold War.
Cody: Cuba Yeah, but you know, you didn't have the Russians and the you didn't have the Soviets and the Americans squaring off on the the field of battle. Well you did, but you know, it wasn't it wasn't
Collin Klein: Sure you did. Absolutely you did. Proxies. Hey, I don't know if you know the concept called sheep dipping. You hear that? Okay. All right. All right.
Cody: I I I I understand what you're saying. But what I'm saying is that most people that look at a general outline of war
Collin Klein: Yeah, 'cause they were raised in schools and they're now retarded. So I hear what you're saying. I know most people understand it in that context. It's wrong. A hundred percent wrong.
Cody: Yeah. So we're getting ready to get into another world war and I think that you know the China Russia's like I just don't underst there's so much going on over there, it's just
Collin Klein: Simplify it. Bring it down to where you understand it and what you see it as it's unfolding, because that's how most people see it as it's unfolding.
Cody: Well well first part is when you look at the history of that region of the world R Iran has been at war with us for f since they became a you know, since the Ayatollah got into power.
Collin Klein: Since we put the Ayatollah in power.
Cody: Since you well, there I'm not even going that I understand, but what I'm saying
Collin Klein: Since Operation Ajax since Operation Ajax and he came out of a French embassy, a French commune on Air France and was flown in with concierge service to take over Iran, which wasn't a real country until the British developed it and turned it into Iran. It's really Persia. It's called Persia, exactly. Iran is a British construct. That's my point. Yes. Yes.
Cody: You're k Well, Persia existed before. I r Iran, yes. When but Yeah, you keep fucking me up like that. The idea that we're not f gonna fight against I we need to go and kick Iran's ass. They've been killing Americans for fifty years. And they e either it's the in Yemen, Houthis, the whatever these proxies are
Collin Klein: Sorry. I know. Sorry. It's all right. This is good. I I'm sorry, that is not a good argument.
Cody: I'm not done.
Collin Klein: How many millions of people have we killed in the Middle East?
Cody: Well the idea first off is like I have to say this, when when when Trump is all mad because those two very ⁓ brave service men, I'm not trying to denigrate their service at all, got killed. My first thought
Collin Klein: Not at all. One was nineteen. Little a kid. Nineteen year old got blown up. No, I cried about it. I I I shed I I'm like it's so sad.
Cody: I know, it's like he barely Yeah. ⁓ it it tears me apart. But I'm sitting here going, you know, you and I'm glad he went down and saluted the the coffins and everything. But it's like he's all upset. And I'm like, what the fuck did you think was gonna happen? You think they're just gonna get take it on the chin and not retaliate? We wouldn't.
Collin Klein: I I I don't think he thought that for a second. I think it was very well understood that we're gonna take casualties in this. I think that's insane.
Cody: ⁓ I know. And and it it's the it's this the same thing. You have you have one thing on you have sex and intrigue and all this distraction on one hand, you could park a carrier group over here. It's the same thing. It's it's for the it's all for show.
Collin Klein: Well ⁓ well it is, but also sometimes a show is important. A show can dictate the consciousness of a people. A whole ⁓ like movies are our current churches.
Cody: Yeah. He's tr but he's trying to just ⁓ yeah.
Collin Klein: Like they give us our common reference point for reality. You go to a different church and you ask someone like, ⁓ did you hear about this? No one knows what you're talking about. But if you say, ⁓ do you know about this moral story that we learned in this movie? Now everyone's ⁓ yeah, no, I saw that. No, I understand. Anyway, but no but sorry, finish your thought.
Cody: It's like he's what he's trying to do is like and it pisses me off that Trump is He's being like every other political monster out there. Yeah, these two service members that were in the middle of Jordan, like w my first question, what the what the hell are we doing in Jordan? Like what the f what the hell, right? Well, I understand we need to be there, but it's like why are we the policemen of the world? So but ⁓
Collin Klein: Well, British owned it because we're the policemen for the British and if we just upped and left everything, the whole then you would get World War four en masse. You have to unwind the empire and create stability within all these regions.
Cody: Well, I understand, but it's just he's it's it's all political theater and it's just frustrates the shit out of me to watch this.
Collin Klein: It's not all political theater necessarily. Necessarily. I'm I'm open to that being the case that he is that cold blooded. I've watched Trump ever since he first stepped onto the stage nonstop. Every speech, every public appearance, everything I can get not all of it, not a hundred percent, but about ninety five, ninety percent of it. I at least get to see and I don't believe that Trump likes watching people get killed for no good reason. But the thing with Iran well okay, fine, let's go back to what the Iran war is about. Because the current narrative going around is that Israel tricked us into it with bad intelligence. Steve Bannon has said that. And look, I don't tr people are like, well, you trust Steve Bannon. No, I don't trust Steve Bannon, but he has he talks for four hours a day.
Cody: I believe I don't believe he does it either. But at the same time
Collin Klein: He ran the Trump campaign. He's around in that circle. If he just says wild, outlandish lies without any backing, then that will destroy his credibility because he's on the public scene with a bunch of truthers that are trying to understand what's really going on. And if they smell any ounce of BS coming from this guy, he's gonna get torn apart by his own audience.
Cody: Well
Collin Klein: They w I I know these people. I've been around them. Like at the local level, they all watch this guy's show. I know that sounds weird, but that's why I watch it, 'cause they all watch it and I'm trying to understand what they're seeing. Go ahead, sorry.
Cody: I don't really have a I don't have ⁓ ⁓ I understand and my I have really you know, I when we we were around him when we were doing
Collin Klein: I know, I know the story. I know. Look, we told that story a like a dozen times. I yeah.
Cody: Yeah, but it's just I I I find him he I think he's totally full of shit. ⁓
Collin Klein: I I hear what you're saying, and in a sense he is, but this is my thing. It's like you don't get full authenticity with anybody.
Cody: Well yeah.
Collin Klein: Like who's truthful like the most truthful person you've ever like, I I don't know who they are. Say, well, my pastor always tells me the truth. Well, not till recently.
Cody: Well, I know someone. I don't know, I think you're I think Dan Sr. was pretty was pretty hard hardcore in truth.
Collin Klein: I w I would put Dan Senior up there. Yeah, I agree with that. He was
Cody: I don't think that you're a grandfather and I mean I love him and I but if he thought it was the truth, that's what he thought it was.
Collin Klein: That's right. And he had cognitive dissonance like everyone else does, that you put your blinders up for things that you cannot incorporate into your model of reality because then that throws everything else out of whack. You've built a rhythm for your life and any disruption is met like that's why people are so angry and violent right now or like antagonistic to talking about any of this. They don't want their they're barely keeping on they're they're barely keeping their material lives together. They don't need any more disruption.
Cody: Yeah, and and and it really boils down to the the bottom line is that people just want to live their lives and be left alone.
Collin Klein: Yeah, and my problem is they just proved to us we're not gonna be left alone. They crossed a line that is unforgivable in my book. That's why I am so hardcore about this. They crossed a line that we have gone to war over, like way less stuff than this. People should be raised like hung from lampposts for what happened. All around the country. And I'm not calling for that. I'm saying under a court of law, judiciously, if we brought back public executions.
Cody: I know. Well, I understand.
Collin Klein: Tens of thousands of bad actors that killed millions of people should be hung from lampposts. That's all I'm saying. Hypothetically.
Cody: Yeah. Well.
Collin Klein: If they were responsible for that and that was proven. But that's what happened in my book.
Cody: Yeah. Yeah. Well, the thing I have a trouble with is like there's why is the people the the the the thing that really bothers me about the Democrats right now is the this tug of thug bullshit. It's like why are you so pro criminal?
Collin Klein: Why why do you even give them any air like why why even try to understand why they believe what they believe? They don't have any thoughts. They're told what to think.
Cody: No no no no that's Well it Why no? But that's the thing is is fur it this falls under my rules as stupid. I've told you the rules of stupid, right? First rule is is don't try to understand stupid.
Collin Klein: I I I I'm It yes. I understand. I'm just saying that this is deeper instead like, you know, I understand these sayings you can't fix stupid I get that. I'm saying that they have been dil like a large portion of our population has been deliberately targeted because they're suggestible neurotics that will follow authority structures no matter what, just like in the Soviet Union, just like in Maoist China, just like in any whenever this happens throughout human history, England it's happened in almost every country that's still stayed alive, any of the great civilizations. And we're in that phase now. We're a young country. We really haven't gone through too many of these cycles. We've gone through I mean the Civil War was a the major one. The revolution was obviously the kick start to all this. But the Civil War, we've never recovered from the Civil War. Ever. We we have it it has become we have n when I say recovered, we have not
Cody: Well no the problem
Collin Klein: made peace with the civil war and what it was really about. And that is gonna have to be sorted karmically.
Cody: No, we had we What what I find interesting is if you look at the If you look at society in the fifth forties and fifties, especially black culture, they were pretty civilized. And they were coming to the into their own and they were targeted and they put stuff to to disrupt and kill the ⁓ kill and kill the black family.
Collin Klein: Yeah. R right, but what does this have to do with you can't fix look, I have a real problem people just saying the Democrats are stupid. I'm saying it's I'm saying it's worse than stup I'm saying it's worse than stupid well I'm I'm well the everyday person walking around, it's like everyday Republicans. It's like how many Republicans could I sit down and have this conversation with that we're having right now?
Cody: No, I don't think they're stupid. I think they're evil, but Mm, probably not very many. 'Cause they would have gotten up and walked off, yeah.
Collin Klein: Like less than w less than one percent. They would and what would hold them what would make them uncomfortable?
Cody: Well what we've attacked Trump to you know
Collin Klein: I didn't attack him. I I'm I'm s
Cody: ⁓ I did. I I don't like the idea that we're going to war.
Collin Klein: Right, but okay, I I actually am fine with this war. I'm good with it. Do you wanna know why? Look, this is what's kind of strange, is we've been talking about this for over a year, and it still feels like There's something missing in the story in the plot that you got like you guys are very intelligent. That's not the issue. But for some reason, I don't know if you and I could be wrong about this plot. It could be totally wrong. But I don't understand like it's a theory. Let's go with that right now. We're we're operating under a theory that we are breaking away from the City of London financial center.
Cody: Well if you look at it from that well yeah, I understand. And that k that's a resign resounding theme in a lot of the stuff that you you go off. I I but I I come back to a different point.
Collin Klein: Correct.
Cody: I don't like the idea now that I'm a parent. I I live through my twenty years of war. The idea of us g putting our young children out there to fight this bullshit. So I and if so when I come at it from that, that's why I'm pissed off is like the guy that came off as like I'm gonna stop all these wars. If Russia would have gone if this would have happened while I was in there Russia wouldn't be Russia wouldn't be
Collin Klein: Hundred percent. Right. But
Cody: You know, it's like and now he's I understand we ha at some point we have to get in there and break up the British the British ⁓ monarch monopoly of this bullshit and and and part of the way that they're monopolizing it is the risk of taking ships through there they're able to run the insurance company. Insurance and finances and
Collin Klein: Well, th that's true, but why? Monopoly. Monopoly. Over the choke points. Yeah. Yes. With and and they outsourced all the violence to America. And guess what? Violence is the ultimate currency, as ⁓ so tells us, you know? It's the ultimate currency. We hold all the cards. That's why Trump says that. We can kill anyone we want. You guys can't do shit about it.
Cody: Yeah. And the fact that we're making them like Well yeah, I I I think it's funny when the people that are telling us we have to protect them are telling us how and the means in which we're gonna do it.
Collin Klein: Tech too. The people that tell us that we're gonna protect something. Cody?
Cody: Well the the when you It's like that that line out of ⁓ it's kinda like when you watch a few good men that that line when he's on the the thing. You know, you need us on that wall. Well we're the United States. They need us on that wall, they want us on that wall, but they're gonna sit there and dictate the t way in which we're going to patrol that wall and we're gonna have ⁓ you know, how we're gonna do it. They wanna have a say but they don't wanna put their ass on the line. And it gets it just frustrates the shit out of me.
Collin Klein: Yes. Well ⁓ there's an amazing movie. ⁓ ⁓ man, I forgot the name of it. It's it's it's I think it's Sound of Glory. It's something glory, but it's about ⁓ a French battalion or a French platoon in World War One and they were overrun by Germans and it wasn't their fault. It was a miscommunication with the officer class that messed everything up. But because they fell back, that platoon or that regiment was ⁓ considered to be cowardly and they had to they basically told the lieutenant like you have to pick out ⁓ three guys to be executed for cowardice on behalf of the whole platoon. Paz to glory. That's the name of it. Paths to glory. It's on YouTube. Highly recommend everyone watch that. And it it dis it it shows you in high relief the disconnect between what we would call the officer class and the worker class. The elites and the laborers. The you know It it's a very ⁓ classist movie, but this is the thing with the communists or the leftists or the socialists that we call them. They're right about that, that there are different classes, and that's something the right hasn't quite agreed with because we don't like especially in America, because we don't like that idea. We don't wanna like we don't want to bow and scrape to somebody that's like rich and be like, ⁓ your majesty, you know. We're not like that. So I get
Cody: Well because Well, the 'cause it's because like Woodrow Wilson and Roosevelt RF you know Theodore Ro not Theodore, but Franklin Delano Roosevelt. They introduced this concept through their social programs of the middle class and the upper middle class and and the the concept is is that the United States hasn't have a class system because we're not part of the monarchy. But so the the resistance to that
Collin Klein: Well Well, it wasn't just them. Go ahead, sorry. I'm sorry. Finish your thought.
Cody: This is the resistance to that is definitely paramount. But you know, when you come down to it, ⁓ They they do they they come up with a class system to just to keep people in line. And it's it's all about envy. It always comes back to envy. Everything comes back to envy. So they want us to go, yeah, and the more we dive into it, the more EM's concept works. And it's just that's part of the thing in this last year that you we've talked to these people and it's just mind blowing how they're linking it us all up. I've changed my opinion a lot on how it all links up.
Collin Klein: Yep. I mean that's why ⁓ calls them the resentfuls. Which is good and I changed mine too. Like I haven't been solid state in this whole process either. You know, it's been changing as it No, I mean I I
Cody: No, I didn't s I didn't wanna think I yeah. You've softened your your sales a lot too.
Collin Klein: I I believed we were under full blown attack and all red-blooded men needed to stand up and fight back now. And if we don't, we're going to die. Like that was my mentality, and it still is to a degree. But as I've opened up to the spiritual aspect of all this and the operating system behind man and why people do what they do, now it's starting to make a lot more sense why this all is Having to happen the way it is. And it's not like it's like I believe that there is free agency and we can mitigate damage. That's always there. But the logical conclusion is always going to come about. It's it's that and that's what Christianity brings to the forefront is that we have faith that the creator. God is going has laid this out in a way that we're not this isn't all just a giant waste of time. That's what killed me is thinking of all the sacrifices our ancestors went through to get us to this point for us to shit the bed on the most absurd, insane BS fear slop that I've ever seen in my entire life. I in not even my life. In human history, I've never seen a fear campaign waged this intensely and this stupidly on any population, let alone the population of the entire planet all at the same time. I've never seen that.
Cody: Yeah. Yeah.
Collin Klein: And it's gonna take us probably a couple of generations to recover from it. But anyway, but
Cody: mean I'm just tired. I'm not trying to say you're boring me. Just so we're clear.
Collin Klein: No, no, it's it's fine. No, we'll wrap up here soon. ⁓ but I do want to get more into the spiritual components of this as we're seeing it. But in order to get there, we're gonna have to understand why phenomenologically this is all happening in front of us. And you're saying yeah, okay, I d here's what I hear you saying. You don't like Trump or any politician using
Cody: Well
Collin Klein: politiciary, you know, like they're fighting for their country and all this stuff and then showing up to Dover for the bodies and putting on a show when really they don't give a damn. ⁓
Cody: Well, I think he did a better job than ⁓ Biden did where he's like sitting there looking at his watch though how much longer is this shit you know, I he was respectful but It's just like what did y it was like They act the the the the re the right wing weenia is acting like, ⁓ my god, they shot a missile at us and killed these people. It's like what the fuck did you think was gonna happen? Rainbows and y and ice cream here, man? We're d we're shooting and killing people over there and your man
Collin Klein: I I mean based on the amount of ordinance we've launched, I can't believe we've only had I think we've had I think it's less than ten deaths so far. Sixteen? Okay. I mean that's like that's very impressive, to be honest, with this kind of campaign. It's kind of shocking. Like if we were really at full war with Iran, why are there sleeper cells not launching all over the United States, blowing everything up?
Cody: We're up to sixteen. Yeah. Which is impressive considering the ⁓ yeah, I mean I I mean I'm I I'm glad Well, the theory is the theory is on well, they are hitting Israel according to them. The theory that they're saying is the reason that that's not happening is the re that FBI's foiling all that stuff, but
Collin Klein: Why are they not hating Israel? No, not really. Why are they not hitting UAE? Why are they not hitting Saudi Arabia? Why did they have all these launchers? Why are they not hitting all this shit?
Cody: Well they ha they are shooting at Saudi Arabia. And they're shooting at the UAE.
Collin Klein: A little bit, but dude I'm telling you. But this is my point though, like to what degree they're okay, you're right, you're right. I I said they're not shooting, they are, but in terms of total war, we're not seeing total war. This is limited.
Cody: Well that's the thing that The thing the thing that gets me is ⁓ shit, I lost my train of thought. God damn it.
Collin Klein: ⁓ about about the Iranians targeting.
Cody: It's just I don't know. I I'm not a fan of the Iranians and I understand that there's this history.
Collin Klein: But why? But why is the question? Why are you not a fan of and I'm not either I don't care to be honest with you, I'm an American. It's got nothing.
Cody: Well maybe it's just because maybe it's just because I'm tired of having a country out there, death to America. I'm really getting tired of this and I'm looking more into it to see make sure that I'm not being gaslit and ⁓ Syab what w let me finish. ⁓ I'm really getting worried about the the Muslim uprising in Europe and they're basically inf infiltrating doing what they couldn't do through mass
Collin Klein: You are You ⁓ Yep.
Cody: conquest, but they're doing through soft conquest. They they're going in and taking getting elected to all these places. Yeah, they're doing a soft take over instead of a full military takeover. And I'm not saying I'm not anti U Islam ⁓ Muslim, but I d I don't really like the idea of them building all their mosques and all that stuff around here. And the idea of go i And I and I and I'm gonna be honest, I kinda like the idea of going to war with them.
Collin Klein: Yeah. Loc local city councils and all that yeah. Mm-hmm. Me either. No, me either. But you're talking about them targeting a bunch of other Islamic countries that aren't exactly saints in this whole drama.
Cody: Against I think the problem that I come down to is like you have different kinds of Muslims. You have you know, it's like we were talking with that gentleman from the gym. We the and I was like, What about y what do think about this commun Muslim communism? You you have the you have democra you have socialist Muslims like Iran, then you have kingdoms.
Collin Klein: Yeah.
Cody: like Saudi and D UAE and all this stuff. And it's just know, i it it I just it's hard to
Collin Klein: My my my argument with all these guys is it would be a lot more clear if people looked at how financial transactions are taking place at a global scale. Forget about the narrative that you hear on the news. When you watch money transfers and who is allowed to be clear like what clearing houses are allowing for certain transactions, like how is it that Iran is able to conduct international finance? Right now it's it's through the proxies of China and Russia, but they're all heavily sanctioned too. And we control a lot of the SWIFT system around the world and the US dollar is in insanely high demand. I know people are like, ⁓ the dollar's dying. It's like look, the US dollar is the ultimate backing like backed currency on the currency markets.
Cody: Well definitely Trump has done a lot to fortify that position.
Collin Klein: ⁓ no doubt. But but that's what it ultimately comes down to is the money.
Cody: Yeah. But when But when you come you you yeah, when you take it from that, the idea that we finally I've come to the realism ⁓ one of the sources of the power through the 'cause the when you look at the you have the English influence, how they they do the same thing. They're doing a soft war. They're they're no longer in sending troops all over the world. They're doing it through finance. That's how they're taking over the world. The British.
Collin Klein: Yeah, Brit and by the way, British. British. Not English. British. Very different. But I know what you mean. I'm just saying for the audience, for pe for the people out there, there's a difference between British and English. To ⁓ in my worldview.
Cody: They're still island monkeys if Yeah. ⁓ clarify.
Collin Klein: Yeah, and I think it's really important. But
Cody: Wouldn't know what the what's what what's the difference?
Collin Klein: It's what we've been talking about the last year is England was conquered in about sixteen sixty eight when they cut Charles head head off and a and a bunch of Dutch loyal like like oligarchs came in and bought up parliamentarians in England and basically did a soft coup. Cromwell tried to stop it. He was he died and might have been killed, I don't know, but
Cody: Okay. ⁓ yeah. When they had the English Revolution, yeah.
Collin Klein: ⁓ but the monarchy was dead at that point, and then who brought the monarchy back? The Dutch. Under their protection. And that's the Praetorian Guard. You think your security is your protection? No, they're not. They're your assassins.
Cody: Well that makes sense that yeah. And it is interesting that they actually had to change the name of the royal family because they were all Germans. You know. That's why they changed the the House of Windsor, yeah.
Collin Klein: Well yeah, no. ⁓ well it's why they also changed it but it's also why they changed it from English to British. They wanted to disconnect the history of what the English people did. The Britannies were a small clan in southern England when the Romans invaded during the Viking Wars. And they were extinguished a long time before that happened. So why did they name the small like they chose the name of the smallest kingdom that was wiped out first to be the name of the glorious empire, the British Empire. Brit Brittany. Brittany. That's an old Slavic tribe that was wiped out deck like a thousand years before this even happened. It's a Psyop. Psyops are not new to today. They've been going on a long time.
Cody: Mm-hmm.
Collin Klein: It was easier to rewrite history in the past. Today it's a little trickier. Still doable.
Cody: Well yeah, I understand. So anyways, let's wrap this up because we're getting a little long in the tooth. Where do we wanna see ourselves the the question I want to ask though when that we're gonna end this on, is we've had all this time with this discovery over the last fifty two episodes, so a full year of episodes. ⁓ where do you wanna go now?
Collin Klein: I I I want to go into the more esoteric, into the and when I say so again, X here's terms. These are just words, nothing magical about them. Esoteric is the external world that we see around us. Esoteric is the world that we see within us. That's all it means. Going within and expounding upon that and maybe opening up to different perceptions of reality, including the Muslim perception. It'd be useful to learn how the Muslims perceive reality compared to us.
Cody: I wonder if we could get an interview with some muzzle ⁓
Collin Klein: I'm sure we could. That's a great idea. I would love to do that.
Cody: And we should we should interview some Muslims and comp comp ⁓ contrast.
Collin Klein: Yeah, no, we can talk to the Muslims. That'd be great. I'd love to. And and by the way
Cody: Yeah, ma ⁓ you know, it's like 'cause maybe instead of standing here being upset at my perception of reality, we should actually research what the actual reality is. Because
Collin Klein: Spoken like a good Englishman. I agree. Let's understand our enemies before we kill them. That's a good idea. I'm just kidding. No, we're not killing the Muslims. Look, the Muslims are, it's like Christianity or any other Protestant religion. It's that we're all aiming toward the divine and God, and we just need to find our way to get there. And some people grew up in different situations. And I would say I have been studying the Sufi branch of Islam, and it is very. Very interesting. It's now I I'm still gonna be a Christian. I'm not going into Sufism. I don't I think it's ultimately a dead end. And quite frankly, my theory on Islam is that it was started by I'm not gonna say the Jesuits, but a sect of jet of basically Vatican intelligence that seeded this idea.
Cody: Okay, so I we're gonna write that down. We gotta that's one thing we're gonna try to figure out where
Collin Klein: ⁓ I think Islam is basically a psyop, unfortunately. I think that's kind of where I'm at. Yeah.
Cody: Well, we're gonna bring we're gonna we're gonna bring evidence to the to the forefront and prove.
Collin Klein: I ⁓ I a look, that's conjecture. I do have some You're right. I I should I should try to make a case for this 'cause I I just keep
Cody: Yeah, so I I think you know, I I showed anger and frustration towards my perception. I should bring evidence to well, I should try to prove my opinion and do some real research.
Collin Klein: Well, it it's not even about like like l like ⁓ being like, ⁓ these are good gu it's like understanding your enemy is the most important thing to defeat them. Sometimes people don't wanna understand like the neocons are a perfect example of this.
Cody: Well, maybe through our v investigation we find out that they're not really our enemies. I don't know. We should investigate it.
Collin Klein: But they're they're all humans, everyone's human, but it's like but people are caught up in ideas and religiosity and insanity and they're gonna do crazy shit because they were told to.
Cody: ⁓ I understand. So
Collin Klein: Christians do this too, but is but Muslims, yes, they are a they they need to have a come to Jesus moment. ⁓ For sure. ⁓ no, every pun and tends agree.
Cody: No pun int well, every pun intendant. So but ⁓ it's been a very exciting, like old school back to the just the two of us where we started. I thought that was kinda cool that here it is episode fifty two and we started the way we were we're having a we're we're having a convers conversation the way we started. ⁓
Collin Klein: Yeah. No, I like this. This was nice. Thank you. Good idea.
Cody: Yeah, good good yeah. So anyways, if you guys wanna help us out, go check us out on our Patreon. You can the link will be in the description. if you wanna help s pay for some of this stuff and help us continue to stay on the air, we have a merch store, check that out. And if you like what we're saying, go ahead and subscribe to this craziness.
Collin Klein: And if you want to apply for an interview or if you have interviewee suggestions, anything like that for more content, we're I I'm open and I'll I can do stuff on my own too. And we're op I'm open to all takers. I'm I'm down for it. So someone wants wants to come on and tangle, let's like I'll do it with me. I'm not I'm making an executive decision for you, Cody, but for me personally, I'd be willing to do that. And then I'll leave editorial decisions up for Cody for the channel. How about that?
Cody: Yes. When did you ever start doing that? Instead of you're just coming up with ideas that we should have implemented.
Collin Klein: I'm just throwing that out there now, it just came to me. Hey, you want to talk to Muslims? Hey, any Muslims wanna talk? Let's go. I'm down to talk. I love you, mother. That sounds great. I'd love to.
Cody: I'm serious. We ⁓ instead of all right. Let's try to get ⁓ some Muslims on and have a real understanding
Collin Klein: In the spirit of understanding, I want to understand your position. That's
Cody: I wanna I don't wanna sound like a racist bigot. Or a b a big I I'm not a racist. I I hate that term when they combine I don't wanna sound like a bigot. So
Collin Klein: Yes. I want to Yeah. We see you as humans, we love you in the in the in the image of God as we are created, and we just want to understand your position. That's it.
Cody: Exactly. So But anyways, leave some ⁓ leave us some suggestions are are ways they get a hold of us or no are numerous and go ahead and reach out with some suggestions. Tell me and tell us how great much you like Colin's beard. I mean make the man feel good. So all right. On that note, thank you all for watching. Colin, you have a nice week. We'll talk to you next week. And ⁓ thank you.
Collin Klein: Yeah, that's what we were talking about in the pre show. Just a little bit of ⁓ instead of just ⁓ plowing straight ahead, sometimes it's good to take a step back and look at where we've gone, where we've been, and where we're going. Get context. and ⁓ no ⁓ sorry, it's my audio coming through. Let me hug that a little closer. There we go. No, you sound perfect.
Cody: There you yeah, you're good, man. Now how do I sound? Do I so
Collin Klein: Yeah, you're good to go. It's ⁓ a part of why I I I agreed to do this was ⁓ I've been before Cody started this podcast, I was just calling random family members just to see or people friends that were close to me or people like just to try to get a bearing on where I was and what was happening in the world around me. And the responses I get from people very They used to vary dramatically. Some were violently resistant to even going anywhere introspective or and and just so people understand, my primary friend group were all Christians and they were not willing to go within to look at the inner world at what's happening inside of us and why. and they certainly were not willing to go into the esoteric into the outer world, which is the phenomenological meaning the things that happen in front of our vision, the things that we perceive to be real in outside of our bodies. So it left me in a bit of a quandary. And there were a few friends and ⁓ maybe one or two family members that were willing to go there with me. And Cody was one of them. And it just so happened he won he was doing a podcast and I jumped in right in the middle of this very dark night of the soul that I've been having for almost the last four years, which I'm I'm tired of having a dark night of the soul by the way, so I'm ready for that to be over. Whenever that's done, just for whatever higher powers are out there, just letting you know I'm tired of this. but I understand at the same time why it had to happen this way. So I get it. But yep, go ahead.
Cody: Well Well, I read that book, what's it? Who's I forget who it was, but it's called God Talks.
Collin Klein: Yeah, I've gone through about half of it.
Cody: What do you think of that?
Collin Klein: It's ⁓ energetically and spiritually good. ⁓ I think it's very useful for the vast majority of people. So I I would recommend it to people for sure. ⁓ I got I got I got some good positive stuff out of it for sure. So I'm I don't I don't think it goes but I I think it's ⁓ what I liked about it, it was a very per it sound it sounds very sales pitchy in the writing.
Cody: Yeah. Yeah, so I I r I ⁓
Collin Klein: Like this clearly is a sales guy talking. But when you get into it, it's very personal and I like that. I like whenever people open up at a personal level and articulate what's been going on in their world. So I I I like the book, yes.
Cody: Yeah. Whoa. Well, so I I I listen I got tired of the news. you listen to the news and you can it's gotten so bad you can hear the slant in it, just the way they present it. It's all slanted. So I went out for alternative sources of news and I started listening to soft rep. which is yeah, soft rep. Heard of that? Special Forces Soft
Collin Klein: Soft rep. ⁓ okay. Soft rep?
Cody: Yeah, it's like soft radio, you know, soft rep. They ⁓ David Webb is one of the guys, he's a
Collin Klein: Is it a channel?
Cody: Yeah, it's a YouTube ch it's like a it's a not a YouTube channel, it's actually a web page.
Collin Klein: Okay. No, I have not encountered these guys.
Cody: Yeah, suck.
Collin Klein: Anyway, you found them and then what happened?
Cody: Well I was trying to so this is soft rep right here. That's where I get alternative news. They have different I like guns, they have gun sponsors, they have a whole bunch of stuff. You can go like military news and it'll tell you about the newest, latest, greatest military stuff. And it talks ⁓ everything from a soft like special forces point of view and so I listen to these guys a lot and they had interviewed that guy that did ⁓ the book God talks and I was in ⁓ Kind of a I don't know how you say it, but I kinda was trying to f trying to find some truth, you know what I mean? And I so I read the book. What?
Collin Klein: Cool. Yeah, welcome to the party, pal. I said, Welcome to the party, pal.
Cody: Great line from you know where that line comes from, right? What is that?
Collin Klein: Mm-hmm. Bruce Willis threw a guy out of the window and yelled that to a black guy down below near a cop car. I believe he was Winslow Carlton Winslow, who is also a gay man.
Cody: Black tube?
Collin Klein: Mm-hmm. No no no no he may not be. Although it's very possible he is as well. I'm thinking of the dad from Fresh Prince of Bel Air.
Cody: No. No, yeah. No, th that was the guy you're talking this is the dad that was on with that guy that showed that Urkel. Yeah.
Collin Klein: This is ⁓ family matters. Yeah, family matters.
Cody: She just outed a guy that was No. But anyway, so
Collin Klein: He may not he may be gay. I don't know. He might be gay. Just saying. Very possible. I would not whistle in the graveyard on that one.
Cody: Wow, so anyways. So I I I I every morning well I I what is it? I I I was starting to feel really achy and painful. So I every morning I get up, was doing like a two mile walk. And I put this podcast on and I was doing like twenty-eight minute mile, which you look back at the stats and you're like that ain't crap. That's a horrible mile to walk. Let's just say in the same period of time now I walk six and a half miles in two hours instead of you know two and a half miles in two hours. So but so I I I I put this book on. I was filming really depressed and I started going through this book. So I started doing what it was saying. ⁓ they have you can go on Audible and download the things where they tell you how to meditate. And so I was asking God about the future. I was asking God about, you know, your past and you gotta clear your thoughts and I was asking God about what I should do in the future and he told me to call Colin and this thing for some reason. So and I was looking for some I was looking for something to do. I was feeling really depressed last year. Colin was too. So so I he was telling me all this crazy stuff and I couldn't digest it 'cause it's so out there. So I suggested it'd be fun to do it on a podcast. ⁓ 'cause I had been thinking of I started another YouTube channel and I would I'd gotten all the equipment to do a podcast for that. And that podcast fell apart. But so but I guess prayer led me to call in. And then now we've talked to Ian Burlingame. We've had doc I mean, Colonel Tower counter on.
Collin Klein: Tom Luongo.
Cody: Yeah, I mean that guy was nuts, but that was that was off the rails. And I don't mean in a bad way, the guy's energy is amazing.
Collin Klein: In a in a very good way. Like you did a problem. Yeah. Yeah. Tom is the man, dude. That's all I can say about Tom. I love him to death. He's such a good guy. Like
Cody: I I actually s just stopped trying to edit out all the cuss words when I when he came on I So it's like
Collin Klein: Yeah, no, you can't. That's why I I breached it in the beginning. I broke the ice. I was like, Hey, you can F off what you can say whatever F words you want here. I know it was a little cringy, but it's kind of Tom does his best when he feels comfortable and he's only comfortable swearing. So like
Cody: Actually Well he's apparently so is ⁓ Burlingame. So it's good.
Collin Klein: ⁓ he ⁓ just doesn't give a shit. He doesn't care. Like
Cody: He does not care. ⁓ that first podcast he came on with us he was a lot more like collected. And the second time I think his comfort level was a lot higher 'cause the convers
Collin Klein: Yeah. Well, he was also very tired that night and he came on a little later and he was exhausted, I could tell just from like he he was working all day.
Cody: ⁓ dude, but that was an o that conversation was off the rails. I love talking to him. 'Cause it's like he comes at comes the I don't get to interact with people of the higher ⁓ intellect for very often, so have to kinda ⁓ reach down and enter a different part of my my intellect to e to just pull it in. And it's
Collin Klein: Yeah.
Cody: ⁓ one of the comments that I got on there was like you just you don't say anything. It's like, Well there's so much information coming in and then such a It's such a abrupt matter. It's just like
Collin Klein: Yeah, first off, they the audience you should be listening to ⁓ not us. Like like come on. What are you talking about?
Cody: I'm 'cause I'm like ⁓ you just sat there and didn't say anything. I'm like, well, he he takes off and he's like a rocket. He just accelerates. It was mind blowing the
Collin Klein: Yeah. P Yeah, people that have something to say tend to do that. So a lot of people what's in go ahead, sorry.
Cody: But you know, part of the thing is is so I'm the I I do the I'm the producer and I do all the editing. And the cool thing I like about the people that c you've brought on is I don't have to like source verify everything. Cause in the beginning I wanted to make sure everything that we were putting out there was a hundred percent correct. You know, I think one of the first people we interviewed was And so that's the reason when we started we were real careful about who we brought on. So I you know, the first peop person we interviewed was your cousin was with Daniel, your cousin, my cousin. And then we brought Corey on as a guest and he's kinda hung around. So but and then we brought Jason
Collin Klein: Mm-hmm. Well he's running for office, so we got him like you know, if anything we're we got his back.
Cody: That I never saw coming. The conversations that we've had with him have just enlightened him so much that he felt empowered to go and change things.
Collin Klein: Well, you also become outraged and you want to get in there and see like how bad is this for myself like you need it you need to see this for yourself to see how bad it is. Cause it's
Cody: The and the more the closer we keep getting to the nucleus of just the local politics. It's just
Collin Klein: That it that is the nucleus, by the way. But go ahead. Sorry.
Cody: Well, I mean like we're not even talking about like big boy politics, like federal politics. We're talking just state, county, state. It's just
Collin Klein: The scary thing about it though is the state and local and municipal level politics are all driven by geopolitics at this point. That's what's scary.
Cody: Well especially down here. Things that happen in
Collin Klein: Everywhere. Dude, everywhere. It's global we ⁓ this is globalization writ large. We're all local is international. You've got i go ahead. Sorry.
Cody: Dude, you don't under Since since Trump has taken over, I'm literally thirty five miles from the New Mexico bord the Mexico border. The level of crime has gone through the floor.
Collin Klein: Yeah.
Cody: I mean this is this town's a pretty rough still and there's some town there's some s areas in town you don't want to be in after dark. still.
Collin Klein: I I have a friend whose brother is in one of the cartels and he's like a like he slings dope drugs, you know, he and I saw him ⁓ about a couple months ago and I whenever I see him I always ask him for a situation update from his realm, like what's going on. He's like, dude, they shut this thing down hard. I've never seen anything like it. Like it's It's no like it's crazy like people haven't really recovered on how to readjust to this new dynamic. We're just kind of I feel like he's like I think people are just kind of waiting and hoping that things go back to the way they were to get back to the old business models, but he's like, I don't I don't know. They seem damn serious this time. Like he so
Cody: Well, during when when we were so I didn't live down here during the first round of Trump. but we'd come down here and we were working on the border wall. And you would still see people playing human f we called it human frogger, you know the game Frogger where you're trying to take the frog and go across the road and dodge the cars. Yeah. Yeah, and you would drive down three seventy five loop down in El Paso and people be running across the interstate coming in from Mexico.
Collin Klein: No, I yeah. No, I've seen it myself. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Cody: ⁓ and you would take the what is that road? I keep thinking there's a road that parallels the border from Santa Teresa all the way across to Arizona. And ⁓ you would drive down there through Cul you Columbus and keep going through and you come you know, basically all the like where all the tombstone legends and stuff was, that's all down in that area. The Wild West really happened down in there. man, you don't see anybody.
Collin Klein: Mm-hmm.
Cody: It's like a ghost town. You would look across the border and there'd be these places, people would be held up. You could just see crowds of people standing down there when I was driving. They're empty. It's like a ghost town. They just know they're not getting in. So they've just gone home. And it's just I I didn't think that was gonna be be that severe. It's just you know, it's just impressive.
Collin Klein: So that Back to ⁓ lessons learned and things that we've seen. So yes, so those events have happened. We've seen them unfold. These events have been unfolding in real time. When I first came to you, I was not in a ⁓ position where I felt that things were a hundred percent for sure that they were going to because there one
Cody: ⁓ yes.
Collin Klein: We get so caught up in and you're gonna hear more and more people talk like this, but we get taught caught up in the material aspect of our reality and we lose sight of the impulse behind our materi th what you see happen in the material world, like motivations, why people do what they do, spiritual impulses, karma, conscious consciousness, just to get all the woo woo terms out in the forefront. But people have motivations to do things that they do. Even the most ardent materialists can agree to that.
Cody: Yeah. thing that I find interesting as we keep going along is when you first talked when you were on the phone and you're s the state you're in when we first started this, ⁓ it didn't make any sense. Couldn't connect everything. And the picture that you've drawn to the link to the to the Dutch and then the then the British and it's kind of like you start to understand because it's like, well who is the they in this w what are they trying to do here?
Collin Klein: That's what you kept asking me and I've been trying to make that clear to you. But it's more complicated than just a nation state, even at this point. But go ahead, sorry.
Cody: ⁓ it's like Well, I always thought that like you ⁓ Y you you think about it and you're like, There ha who's the who's the ringleader behind this? Who's the ⁓ there has to be a head guy? No, there doesn't. Does you don't need one central person pulling all the strings. ⁓
Collin Klein: Mm-hmm. It's incentive structures and it's spir it really is spirit spirit. Spirit is going to become more and more obvious as especially in the next five years to people that still have a conscience and a soul. A lot of people don't at this point. A lot of people have divorced themselves from their willing, thinking, and feeling abilities.
Cody: Well, here I this I have this thing that really sums it up. And and it's it's interesting, it's from George Carlin. And I'll well we'll get it up here. This explains it. Here, well we're gonna go like this. Tell me if you can here we go, you ready? So that sums it up, you know what I mean?
Collin Klein: Yeah, no, he was dead on on a lot of things. ⁓ Yeah, I didn't like him for a long time because I thought he was just a pessimist about like I I just I was ⁓ I had a very naive Boy Scout mentality of how the world worked. I hadn't been screwed over by a bunch of people yet. I didn't I didn't see, you know, like I just because I never put myself in a position to be abused or used. I've never like I just why would I do that ever? Like why would I put myself
Cody: Well, but your parents actually did a good job raising you as why? They protected you.
Collin Klein: Well, yeah, well, the d the very fact that I had parents that stick together and I could see the fo like the the insanity that they had to deal with and how they maneuvered through it together is very useful is a very useful education for people. Even if in ⁓ everyone does it imperfectly, every parent no one's perfect, but seeing t a man and a woman navigate insanity together. Imperfectly is a useful education. Because if you just have one parent, you just have one point of context. But if you have two, now you can triangulate things from different perspectives.
Cody: Yeah. Well, cause you get the
Collin Klein: And and from a male and female perspective, which are very valuable for any ⁓ for a boy or girl to see. That's why it's important for men and women to get married and to have children, which is seems to be the way it's laid out. But
Cody: Well, it's it's yeah, that's the heavenly example.
Collin Klein: Well, you we th we're the only ones that can reproduce. As much as they want to say that we can do test two babies and all this, but okay, fine, whatever.
Cody: Yeah, well, what I'm saying.
Collin Klein: But I reproduced in my living room, so I didn't need a doctor or a lab for that, yeah.
Cody: Is that your favorite place?
Collin Klein: Well this is my favorite room now. It's my my tower. This is my wizard tower. Keep my samurai swords, Egyptian plates, and Gnostic books. So
Cody: It's it's that's all the stuff on the walls, right? Well what do you think I got back here? I mean it's not like I don't have Got my exploding outhouse. I mean, I got all the good stuff back there.
Collin Klein: Yeah. I need I need my own space to be to have like my own pla this is I just need one room and this is perfect.
Cody: I I got like a corner. got a what is sixteen hundred square foot house and I get like
Collin Klein: Yeah. I mean this will not be my room for long. We're I mean I mean it'll be my room for maybe the next three to four years, but as soon as I get a little boy
Cody: ⁓ so you're you're still you're s yeah, okay, well I'm glad to hear you're still yeah.
Collin Klein: I don't know. ⁓ yeah, no, of course. No, of course. No, we're we're still ⁓ no, I don't none of us ⁓ me and my wife, we do not feel like we're done having children yet. As crazy as it sounds and feels it's we're not we're it's been it it's no, it's been incredible. It's it's
Cody: I don't know man, there's something about ⁓ it sounds cliche but when a woman that you are in love with is pregnant, there's a way they look. You know. The there's a glow and there's a way they look. It is
Collin Klein: ⁓ yeah. ⁓ for sure. They carry themselves differently. It's it's a very c they're very peaceful in a certain there's a certain calmness that falls over them. It's very interesting. It's not there all the time, but compared to when they're not pregnant, my wife says this all the time. She's like, I love I loved being pregnant. I just felt so at peace. There was like sickness and morning sickness and all that stuff and you know, all the physical pain and all that crap, but
Cody: ⁓ yeah.
Collin Klein: Spiritually inside she was like I felt so like completed in those moments when I was pregnant. 'Cause it's a part of the female spiritual journey to awakening is to be a mother.
Cody: Well
Collin Klein: Men have a different path, but it leads to the same place, more or less. We just don't have a good rite of initiation for men. Go ahead.
Cody: The thing that's My wife is ⁓ is such a great mom that the fact that you can ⁓ that w when she's pregnant she the energy that comes off of her is impressive. But it is pregnancy on her is really difficult. It literally wipes her out and you know that's the reason we it's not that we don't want more children, it's just the
Collin Klein: No, my mine my wife was exhausted and thrown out. She I mean, you would think she would hate it, but then she always goes like this is the best thing that ever happened to me. It wasn't about the discomfort. It was about the f the fulfillment within her. Like she could feel the imagine having a life inside of you that wasn't you.
Cody: Dude, I'm telling you, that was that's crazy when you're sitting there and you're trying to you h you hold your wife's stomach and you feel the little kicking and the and the elbow and you can feel like the h head button and stuff. It's like and then the the the idea that a woman can feel that all the time would be it's an interesting concept.
Collin Klein: it's it's a path of initiation towards seeing the spiritual world physically. They can feel their portals for life, for human consciousness to enter into this world. So and
Cody: Mm-hmm.
Collin Klein: ⁓ I I don't wanna go on this tangent necessarily. ⁓ I wanna keep going. Let's stick stick to where we were. ⁓ sorry. Yeah. ⁓ I mean I would like to go down this road, but we we started somewhere I'm trying to stick to where we start, so sorry.
Cody: Yeah, let's get back onto where we were at. No, but ⁓ ⁓ I'm really good at just taking us down crazy tracks. Yeah. I've been going to I
Collin Klein: Yeah, yeah. So lessons learned.
Cody: Well it's just the ⁓ okay, so yeah. ⁓ When you do the research and you listen to the people that we brought on, they're not full of shit. You connect the dots and then like when Colonel Towner came on, that's when it really when it r when it really came to 'cause she was talking about places I'd been to and seen.
Collin Klein: So can I can I throw something at you that I've noticed this pop up several times and this is a bit of a candid moment between us, but and it's not bad. It's it's something that I've noticed and it's not unique to you. But most humans have a hard time seeing things unless they've experienced them themselves. And that's true of me too. I'm not saying it's not true of everybody, but some people have an imaginational capacity to put themselves in certain positions and kind of play it out in their mind. Everyone can do that, just some people don't do it all the time. And most people need a reference point. You know what I mean?
Cody: ⁓ yeah. Well, some people like Well, I have friends of mine that like that think in colors. I have met people that say they think in numbers. And I I I I think in images. It's like video images.
Collin Klein: Yes. And I think in narrative.
Cody: Yeah. So when she starts talking about this secret base up in the Rockies, I've I know exactly where that is. And so then it's just like a footprint in my mind and you can put the image together and it just it's like now you have all the characters and you have the this the set. But yeah.
Collin Klein: I think in words and meaning. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It dispelled the cognitive where people are are just talking and telling a story and then you got to r you went back and relived and like I've set foot on this place. I know what you're talking about, and now whatever you say, I'm going to probably be more likely to believe you.
Cody: Well no because yeah, exactly. ⁓
Collin Klein: Which can be dangerous because just because somebody set like named a place that you've been doesn't mean that they're necessarily telling the truth.
Cody: But the it's not just that she named the place.
Collin Klein: I I I know. I I brought her on for a reason. I don't think she's full of shit. She's amazing. Like I
Cody: Well, it's because when I was at Camp Hell up in the where they where they actually started the tenth Mountain Division. And then when it got dis ⁓ de de decommissioned after World War Two. If you talk to the locals who've lived there for a long time, they say, ⁓ yeah, the CIA took that base over.
Collin Klein: Mm-hmm.
Cody: And when she started talking about the CIA base in Colorado in the early fifties, I knew exactly what she was talking about 'cause I'd been there. I'd walked the grounds.
Collin Klein: Mm-hmm. No, that's very weird that she brought that up for that episode. That was very strange. Cause I like yeah. Yeah, that's one of those synchronistic moments that I think was important to make this real for you. Because it's very real for me, but to make this whole thing, whatever it is, real for other people, they need their own touchstones.
Cody: I was like, what the what the
Collin Klein: Like a thing they can be like put hands on and be touch grass and be like, this isn't just some idea. I've personally experienced a fraction of this that gives me at least some reference point in my material existence. But most
Cody: Well, the pr the problem I have is is I've done a lot of stuff. And I've worked for done a lot of government projects through my work and the stuff we've done. But you don't wanna know. You don't wanna know. But you see things and then when they connect the duck when they can when they connect them all together and you start then you could start thinking about back about more and more things and going back further and further and you start getting all the other stuff you've worked on, you start root you you mesh it all together, it's just
Collin Klein: What have I been a part of?
Cody: It went from being a crackpock theory to like, ⁓ crap.
Collin Klein: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And that goes for every single serviceman that's ever served for the United States military.
Cody: Yeah, I'm not saying
Collin Klein: All the way back to the beginning to be honest. And it's That being said, and let me be very clear about this, because I don't want people to misconstrue the the the two people that may hear this. I hold our servicemen in the highest regard, ⁓ in the sense that they have whether it's they don't understand what they're being a part of or what it doesn't matter. They are willing to put themselves out there and obviously a bunch of them are kids and all that stuff, but We're in a tough situation where I can't see myself recommending that my children go into the military. I would love for them to. I think the military has a lot to offer terms of, you know, just toughening people up, making them capable, confident, savvy in a skill set. I mean, it's it's an amazing asset to pull on, but At the same time, if you're serving something that is not in the control of even what we call the president, Or the Congress or anything, then who's controlling this apparatus that I'm sending my kid to go off and be a part? It's like the school system. It's like who actually runs this? Well, I've dealt with the people who actually run it and they're insane psychotics that I wouldn't trust to make me a sandwich. Let alone giving them my children.
Cody: ⁓ narcissistic ⁓ dude, they're yeah.
Collin Klein: They're not cap they're not the and it's only gonna get worse over time. Like it's not and that's not me being a negative Nancy about it. I'm saying how I keep asking people how is the school system going to get better? How? Under the current because people haven't looked at it from a s do you know what I mean by systems analysis? Like you're a logistics guy. You understand you need
Cody: ⁓ scarcely.
Collin Klein: product A to get to point B and then this thing needs to happen and that and you need energy transference all along the way. It's not like we snap our fingers and we get the result that we want. A lot of little things have to happen along the way that are a lot of them are self organized.
Cody: Well, yeah. ⁓
Collin Klein: I'm I'm specifically ta I I went all over the place there. So I started with ⁓ I I ended with education, but I was also talking about our kids going into the military. As much as I admire and ⁓ respect our servicemen and women, I do. I really do. And it's not their fault. It's I hate seeing their sacrifice and their bodies being used as fodder for insanity.
Cody: Well, but that's the nature of Yeah, well if I look back at the history of my my my family being in England, that's that's what peop the poor have been used for for millennium. Is they go out and fight the r rich men's war. You know, they it's just the the rich don't have to ⁓ and I and that sounds very communistic speech, like the bourgeoisie and all that other crap, but
Collin Klein: Well well this is well this is where ⁓ in his whole notion of princes comes in is that wasn't always the case. There was a time where the princes of the land or the king or the baron would send his oldest son to be at the forefront of the army to ride in and to do because you wouldn't have the loyalty of the people otherwise. It wasn't like some out of some it was honor, but it was really out of pragmatism. It's like, look, you want these guys to go fight and die for you. You're gonna have to put your firstborn son up as a sacrifice.
Cody: Yeah, you know that that that's very true. Like, ⁓ that's the reason the I think that's the reason well, that's the reason the
Collin Klein: We don't have that anymore.
Cody: Yeah, well the was it ⁓ Royal family over in England right now, you know, like Prince William. He went and was in the military. So yeah, they
Collin Klein: They all were. Yeah, they had to because that was the tradition. You have to do that. And it's all optics. Remember that famous scene of hair
Cody: Yeah. Yeah. Well it's all because they want the uniform and they want the medals and all that other stuff.
Collin Klein: Yeah. Well, they need the story and the legend of them being heroic, capable, strong men capable of fulfilling their position and fulfilling their duty that they were born into. They have to prove themselves. Like a rite of passage. Like remember that there was that scene, ⁓ that news feed like Harry was being interviewed and then all of a sudden a siren blared and he ran off to his helicopter and flew off.
Cody: So that was all you know, staged.
Collin Klein: Obviously staged, but that's what I'm talking about. They staged it for a reason. It mattered.
Cody: Yeah. Like the Queen had her had her had her young her grandchildren on the line, you know, she was putting it out there for it, you know.
Collin Klein: Yeah, ⁓ would take it to another level that these royals are not obviously the like I mean, first off, the world's so complicated. The idea that a single group is organizing all of this together in concert is too much for me. Unless, the the only way I would make an exception would be in the spirit world, which I'd be willing to go there, but I'm not sure we're ready to go there quite yet. ⁓ And by the way, when I bring that up, I'm dead serious about it. I'm not it's very real. And it's something
Cody: That's the thing too that we've gotten some questions on is our spirituality. You know, are we are we atheists? Are we Christians? It's like, well, I I would say we're not atheists.
Collin Klein: Who's been asking that?
Cody: ⁓ I some of the I some of the I you filter the the messages. I mean on some of the bo but now they're emails that they send us send to the YouTube channel.
Collin Klein: Is it like family or Well
Cody: 'Cause you can send it not.
Collin Klein: It's hard to put into language. You know how Christians say you gotta have a personal relationship with your Lord and Savior? Well, I would highly suggest everybody do that and have it have it be very personal and
Cody: Yeah.
Collin Klein: Don't listen to anyone telling you what that is supposed to look like unless you want to and you're ready to take it in. Meaning listen to other people, but don't go looking for a guru or teacher. Go to your heart, listen to your conscience. Listen to the divine speak within you of what is right and wrong first before you listen to me or anyone else.
Cody: Mm-hmm.
Collin Klein: Period. And then we can talk about religion after you've done that. If you go there, we'll have a good time. But most religious people don't go there. That's been my lesson.
Cody: Well the thing that I have The problem I The problem I have is is religion and faith are two different things.
Collin Klein: A hundred percent.
Cody: And I believe in I believe in God. I've seen my life go to crap every time I try to not walk a Christian path. The problem I have is organized religion.
Collin Klein: And it's only gonna get worse. It's only gonna get worse.
Cody: So and I think the problem I think the problem is is that ⁓ It's just the people. And I think it's a me problem. I don't think it's them. They're doing what they think is right, but
Collin Klein: It yeah, it's not the people. I I don't want to go to church not because I don't like them. I like the people there. I think most people go there for more or less the right reasons. I don't really I have no animosity towards people looking for answers or looking for stability in a in a crazy world. Some humans are gonna have to go to these organized places to find some stasis. Because they don't have the capacity to go deeper.
Cody: Yeah. I and I can under
Collin Klein: And they just have to go it's basically daycare for spiritual children.
Cody: ⁓ it's not that. That that's way too No, I it it's not daycare because daycare is them where you drop peop kids off so you can go do other things. And I I not
Collin Klein: Yeah, it pretty much is, unfortunately. Well, that's one way of looking at it, but I'm basically saying that you as an adult are saying, I'm gonna go to this place, live under this structure to hear about the divine from their perspective, and then I'll replicate that perspective into my life so I don't have to take any personal responsibility for my relationship with the divine. That's what's starting to happen. It's what's starting to happen. I'm just look, I'm I'm we don't have to argue about it. I'm just telling you.
Cody: Yeah. I I I'm gonna disagree. I I think no, it's just a debate. It's okay.
Collin Klein: Over the next five years it's become extremely clear that's what's going on.
Cody: I think there are a lot of people out there that are like me and you that just want to find they they know that there is something more into their lives and they want to find the answer.
Collin Klein: Okay, okay, yes, that's different. People go to churches and and some people have not been introduced to the Bible, which ever people should read the Bible. I'm not against reading the Bible. But then they get into a problem where, well, everything in the Bible is the word of God, but it's interpreted through the preacher in front of you. like interpreting an ancient language and in their intention and all this stuff. Now this is where it really matters. Your conscience should be the thing. God did give us a law. But the law isn't in a book. It's not written down in words. It's written in your heart. It has to be because the langu I wish it was in a book. And the Bible's pretty damn close. It's close. And there's a lot and It's it's ninety-nine percent, it's it's almost all good stuff. It's it's an insanely dense tone. I'm not anti-Bible. Everyone should read it. It's gonna be a part of my children's early homeschooling curriculum. They're going to be exposed. Yeah, no, I mean too. I mean, it's no, it's ⁓ I am not a anti Christian. I am a Christian, but not in the sense of how people would describe it. Because once I start telling people like, well
Cody: I have one right here all the time. I mean Yeah, yeah.
Collin Klein: What do you mean you're a Christian? It's like, do you declare Jesus Christ to be your Lord and Savior? And then I ask them, What does that mean to you? And then they freeze up and 'cause they don't know.
Cody: Well the the thing that you're People don't go that deep.
Collin Klein: I that's my point.
Cody: Yeah. People aren't that deep. They don't go that deep. They can't they're not thinking in that realm. And and and to say that, you know, how do you There is a joy that comes to your life when you find the Christian path and you've lived in the wilderness and you've not known and that's a figurative wilderness not necessarily
Collin Klein: ⁓ compared to atheism and nihilism, it is clean water and fresh air like you've never breathed before. ⁓ Hunter I totally agree with you.
Cody: My my jealousy in life, if I had to have one, is you meet these baby Christians that are coming into the faith and their enthusiasm is just amazing. ⁓ it w there's not a lot of cynicism there. They're very enthusiastic. They're very gung ho, let's go get this. They find they find something that's b that that piece that's been missing in it and it's I I I envy them a quite a bit.
Collin Klein: Yes. Right. Yes. Well, it gives them validation to be good people, to live with their heart's desire, which is to be an honest, upright, courageous, structured person. My problem with the Christian church is they are denying that from people as of COVID. Blatantly.
Cody: ⁓ Yes. Be more specific.
Collin Klein: They went along with having their churches shut down over something like that told me a lot. I've we've talked about this countless times. That's the problem, is you guys just showed your hand that you're a business and you're not interested in the investment of souls. You've just proved it. Sorry, that's what it is.
Cody: Well, that's the problem I have right there. Exactly. ⁓ Well the the thing the the so like I don't know if you noticed, one of my things I love history. I'm a history buff. The thing I like about southern New Mexico is you can go see the POW camps that were here and you can walk and you can feel the energy coming off of how bad it was and stuff, you know. So you can kinda get in touch with that World War Two thing. And I've done a I've done I've read the book. It is a long read. It's the complete history of the third right. It's like something like 65 hours of if you listen to the audiobook. So we grew up in the Seventh day of the Religion. And you one of the things I kept hearing in the history was is how all the ⁓ religions that were in in Europe, they always thought it was not going to be them that was going to get criti ⁓ crucified by the Nazis. And ⁓ when you look at what the Aventist Church did during World War Two in Germany, they put Hitler's picture up on the walls. They went along to get along, they didn't want to upset the turnip cart. And I read that book in like 2011. you know, not even ten years later, nine years later, here's COVID nineteen comes in and you w look grow up in a church that your whole life they're singing let Christi the onward Christian soldiers and you know they're you know, talking about like when the ends of times come where you're gonna be one that's gonna stand up, or you're gonna one that's gonna hide and all this power Christian thing.
Collin Klein: Right. I was a more hardcore Seventh day Avenist than most Seventh day Adventists. I think I took this very seriously. I'm like, this is the end of the world. They're trying to like inject us with a bunch of stuff. They're trying to lie. Like they're clearly lying about all of this. None of it scientifically No, even by their own logic of how science works, which I I was pre med. I took organic chem. I took I'm not an idiot like I'm not I've I'm bit exposed I I
Cody: And then they don't. 'Cause it didn't make any sense. It has to be a lie.
Collin Klein: shadowed under surgeons. I've been around the medical field enough to understand the basics. And this was flat out based on just pure conjecture at best. And made up numbers and models and algorithms that came right out of Britain that we just went off of and we never double checked. And all and we don't have to relitigate all that stuff. People You know, you you've noticed how people have gotten quiet over COVID 'cause they all realize how insane it all was and everyone's trying to pretend that they weren't all crazy. Well, guess what? We remember, all right? You made our lives a living hell for years because you were insane and you wouldn't say no. So I'm I'm still a little pissed off about that, folks, but sorry, I'll get over it.
Cody: ⁓ man, and then and the fact that got me really I couldn't tell. I didn't notice you're being upset. No, no, I didn't notice you were upset at all.
Collin Klein: Little I'm a little PO'd about that one.
Cody: Wound up, yeah. Still. Yeah.
Collin Klein: ⁓ no, I'm not wound up. I'm just like don't talk to me about you being a ⁓ not you, but like people that are like, Well, ⁓ you don't go to church, you're not a good person. I'm like all the churches set were willing to sacrifice your life for their business model. All of ⁓
Cody: ⁓ yeah, theoretical you yeah. That's what that's what I was getting to is when you saw the ⁓ the Avenue church. So like
Collin Klein: So
Cody: During that time my ⁓ my parents decided that they were finally going to enter my sister's ashes. So we had her cremate it and we put her in the the whatever that thing's called, I can't remember the name. Decided to enter my sister's ashes because, you know, it felt kinda tacky to have the the dog's ashes next to my sister, you know what I mean? So we went and they didn't ⁓
Collin Klein: Right. Yeah. For sure. Well, first off, don't bury your dog. Just note note to people out there. Just let it go. Be okay. Sorry, go ahead.
Cody: Dude, you you're talking to the choir, man. I just we just my we just had a cat pass away and we just spent like four hundred bucks on cremation for a cat. It was like
Collin Klein: I understand. I understand. I understand. Sorry. No, no. I I I That's are even worse. Wow. Okay. Ugh, all right, whatever. Yep.
Cody: ⁓ I know. But anyways, ⁓ so we had my sister and Twert in The thing that kept me going during that whole entire time is like, you know, it's nothing makes you feel more just totally excited about what you're doing when you get the letter from your governor. And you probably didn't get this, but I you know, saying that you congratulations, basic and I'm paraphrasing, but congratulations, you're an essential employee. And if you get and they I had this letter that would let me through roadblocks if they were going to so I could get into places. And I'm like, what kind of crap is this?
Collin Klein: Mm-hmm.
Cody: But ⁓ The thing that kept me going was is like the faith. God will protect me. That's the whole reason that I had a good experience driving truck is my faith.
Collin Klein: Yes.
Cody: And you know, I you know, God's gonna take me when he wants kind of thing. And when the pastor we asked the past my my I couldn't make it well, my dad asked the pastor to come and say a few words when we interred my sister's remains or the ashes. And this man that who got in front of my parents and told them that you know, live like a good Christian. Go out there and meet the world, it's too afraid to come out. And this is before they had even had the shutdowns. They were talking of rumors of shutdowns. This is in like early March of twenty twenty. And he wouldn't come out because he was afraid. It's like, Well, you're the pastor and you don't even have faith.
Collin Klein: Mm-hmm.
Cody: You don't have faith in God and you're the pastor.
Collin Klein: It it's not even faith. It's like you want to be a spiritual leader and you're this dense that you can't even look at because this is not hard. This wasn't a hard IQ test to pass. This was pretty easy. It was all peer pressure. The whole thing was peer pressure. It had zero to do with facts, anything, and we all know it. That's why everyone's quiet about it, because they know they all failed the test.
Cody: Yeah, dude, it's like
Collin Klein: And as far as I'm concerned, I'm gonna rub their noses in it 'til the day I die. 'Cause they
Cody: Dude, I you you you ⁓ the the the thing that was positive that came out of it two things. You found the churches that you actually belonged in because the pastors and that congr and the congregation that fought back against that shit. That's the people you want to go to. Dude, there were there were three mega churches, no two mega churches in Albuquerque that did it.
Collin Klein: There were very few. There were very few. There were not many.
Cody: And now they're actually they're so fed up with the government that the churches, those two churches in Albuquerque are putting up their own political candidates now.
Collin Klein: I that's what I've been begging for forever. It's like, yes, like a hundred percent.
Cody: Yeah. And it's like when is it when when in our hist and my I'm forty four years old and when in my history has the endorsement of the church, a church in the city and that endorses them? You never sought a church's endorsement. It's just like, dude, this is nuts. And then down here Part the reason I never look for a church here in Las Cruces is because they were all closed when I moved down here. I moved down here in early twenty one, like January of twenty one. You know it's
Collin Klein: Mm. Yeah, I I really think house churches are gonna be the way of the future going forward. It's the the reality of the ⁓ of the material world is gonna get way too complicated that not everybody is gonna be able to ⁓ like I would say people over the age of forty, maybe thirty-five, thirty-four, ⁓ thirties even, they're gonna have a hard time.
Cody: Small group.
Collin Klein: readj when you're in your thirties, you can still readjust to reality to some degree. Most people at a certain age, once they find a steady career and a pattern of life, they tend to just stay static and just stay there until the day they die.
Cody: Yeah, you get comfortable with the routine.
Collin Klein: Well, you and then also survivalism kicks in and you're just trying to stay ki some people just trying to keep their head above the water and then the people that find their nest egg, like their path forward to retirement and death, then yeah, they just, you know, go along with it because that's the meal ticket.
Cody: Well yeah, I know. I you know, the idea that I've spent Like thirty years. I started working, I was thirteen and you know, I started putting four money away in my four ⁓ one K. And you're like, Yeah, I only got like thirty five thousand dollars, which is horrible amount for some of my age. The idea of risking it 'cause it took so long to make it, you're like you you're not really risk aversed anymore 'cause you know, it's so hard to to save that kind of money. They w you know You're not gonna go out like you would in your twenties and try to put yourself your ass on the line and try to find something new and great and amazing.
Collin Klein: Yeah, time becomes a lot more valuable when you get older.
Cody: Well, that's the reason too, they say like guys in their forties and their fifties are more likely to file for divorce than they are in their twenties and thirties. Because
Collin Klein: Mm. Midlife crisis kicks in and they're like, ⁓ my god, I made a horrible mistake.
Cody: ⁓ it's not a midlight crisis. It's like how many more years do I want to put up with this shit? I got so much by ⁓ yeah.
Collin Klein: That's that's what I mean. That's what it's called. I'm not saying it's a cry, but it's like some people and and I agree that some men need to get divorced. I'm like I am not, especially like once the kids are like grown up to a certain degree, it's like a lot of men need to get out of their relationships, they're crazy wives. Like, I'm totally fine with that. I'm I'm not I don't like divorce. I think it'd be better for men to just but some women are just inconsolable. They're not Capable my wife thank God is not one of ⁓ or else I wouldn't be saying this. I'd be lying straight to your face. But that's I
Cody: No, my my wife is
Collin Klein: Sorry.
Cody: The more the the the more older I get th I realise more of the problems that I've had with my wife are not her, they're me.
Collin Klein: Yes. Yes, correct. Yeah. They're a mirror and they reflect yourself back to them if and and no. And she's been very
Cody: Well they don't ⁓ you don't like what they're saying because they're saying the truth and they're telling you what you need to hear instead of what you wanna hear.
Collin Klein: Right. Yeah, yeah, I'm not talking about those people. I'm talking about women that are just straight up sociopaths that lie, cheat, and steal and twist the truth to whatever ends, and will never ever reconcile that or come like come like be like, okay, here's what reality is. Have baseline reality with you. Women that are just in fantasy land. And there's many, many of those out there. But it's
Cody: ⁓ yeah. Yeah. What is that book? I read this book a while back called the The Narcissistic Woman. So
Collin Klein: Yeah. I mean men are capable of being narcissists and many are, but a lot of men just don't have time to even think about being a narcissist. It's like
Cody: Mm-hmm. No, I I'm not saying any anyone has the capacity to ⁓ be a sociopath, so
Collin Klein: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm saying that a w a women at home, when they get bored and they nanny their kids out and they don't have to do anything, they start going kind of crazy.
Cody: Yeah, like those desperate housewives or what what is it ⁓
Collin Klein: Yeah, exactly. And they all watch that show for a reason. It resonates.
Cody: ⁓ dude. Dude, I cannot stand it's like these chicks are going off these gu girls are going off about the horrors of this and the horse.
Collin Klein: It's disgusting. And it's all obviously fake, but it's like why are we it's like it's like at least watch professional wrestling, you know? Do something that it it is, but it's dumb and gay. Like it's just like ⁓ it's a little I mean, it's still dumb and gay, but it's at least ridiculous and absurd enough that you can, you know you realize you're still watching a show. A lot of these people watch these shows and they replicate it in their own personal lives.
Cody: Well, you are watching professional wrestling. And so is professional wrestling. ⁓ dude, it's like the idea My daughter asked me the other day, she's like, How come I talk to my friends and their houses are all so chaotic? I'm like, Because they're they people thrive on drama. And they're like, Well how come our house doesn't do that? 'Cause I don't thrive on drama. I don't want it. I don't need it. And if it comes here, go find it somewhere else. We're stocked up, you know.
Collin Klein: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm. Mm hmm. Amen. Absolutely.
Cody: That's my favorite line out of ⁓ what with is what is it, The Good As It Gets with when he sits there, when the lady's sitting there she's going off about, you know, can you take care of this guy? And he's like, Yeah, I'll take care of it and she goes off on some I forget it, and he goes, Sell crazy somewhere or else we're all stocked up here You know it's like
Collin Klein: Yeah. ⁓ Yeah. Not
Cody: And then the other thing is when that lady walks up to him and he's at the publisher because he writes books. She goes, How do you get into here so well? It's like you go from here in here and here. And he looks at he goes, How do you write women so well? He goes, I think of a man and rem remove accountability and responsibility and I get a woman or something like ⁓ that's a great movie. Helen Hunt was hot in that movie too.
Collin Klein: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Jack Nichols. Yeah. Jack Nichols at his best. So No, it's okay. No, we're we're on topic. We're good.
Cody: But we we got off topic, I apologize. No, but so you know, it's like you have all these distractions. It's like that is the modern day version of the Colosseum. Why did Caesar have the c Colosseum and the and the circus and the all these buildings is to distract the populace.
Collin Klein: Yeah. Yeah. Number of reasons is one to show the grandeur of the system, to show how powerful it is, that we can get people to sit in this ar like to come to this arena and fight to the death against reptiles, lions, and men and recre you know, we can do that and then you, the populace, sit there and watch it and you get to enjoy your entertainment off of it. But also but it's also sh let us show you how powerful we are by putting on this show.
Cody: Well, that's the same thing the government does now. It's the
Collin Klein: It's what it's always they always do this, every single one throughout human history. It's there's not there's not a single exception. So why do we think that's not happening now? Well the reason we don't think that is because people don't know that's what's happened before.
Cody: Exactly. Well it's like Well that's what they're th they don't know that that's what they're doing.
Collin Klein: I know, but I'm saying that people don't know like you said, people don't know history. They don't under they they have no context. They're they it's like when you listen to the commentariat talk, like the the the more common people that or the the what what's more in the mainstream, they think history started at World War Two. And that's that's if we're lucky, you know?
Cody: ⁓ yeah, we're saying the same thing in a different well. What is that
Collin Klein: They don't go back to anything before that. They don't go to World War One. They don't go to the Spanish American War. They don't go to the the the Russo Japanese War. They don't go to the Crimean War. They don't go to the Civil War of England. They don't go to any of the Napoleonic Wars. They don't talk about any like I'm just talking about wars. There's a bunch of other things that happen in between there, but they don't talk about it. One. Because we have an attention span and we want to be immediately fed on what's happening here and now. So it's it makes sense why this has happened. It's just frustrating that we're kind of trapped in it.
Cody: Yeah. Yeah, I know. It's ⁓ it it it just yeah.
Collin Klein: 'Cause it's like if if people just understood a little bit more, a little bit, not even a whole lot, just it'd be like, okay, this would all be over. Like they wouldn't be able to pull this crap off on ⁓ on us anymore. But I think that is happening and that's why I've become also a lot more calm. I I I was at a point where I was like, I don't think humanity I I think we may have to go I I I got blackpilled. I got into the doom cycle of I don't think humans are capable of pulling up out of this nosedive.
Cody: Well, I could show you exactly also why what a lot of people believe in history here in the United States. Here let me show you this. This is my favorite quote. Here right here. Yeah. Yeah, so yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and I
Collin Klein: Don't fully don't fully agree with that, but more or less, yeah. I I'm I'm good with that.
Cody: Well, not s I'm not saying I agree with it, but that's a lot of the way people look at h history.
Collin Klein: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, it's a good example. But and it's also people just don't see how it's relevant to their everyday lives. I didn't either. I looked at that stuff because I was just authentically interested. I just thought it was very interesting. But now it's like what they did, they shut down our businesses. They told us what we could say, what articles of clothing we had to wear, how we had to behave in public. All like that.
Cody: And it's funny too. If you didn't wear your mask you were shunned. Yeah. Yeah.
Collin Klein: And it's like, okay, why did that happen? Well, you're gonna have to go back and backtrack the power structure and all and reverse engineer the whole thing to figure out how it all happened. And my annoyance that I have is not enough people have done the work to see how it actually happened. Or to give it at least a good faith effort. You know, it's like I'm not God, I don't know everything, you know, like none of us are. It but ⁓ let's at least try, you know? Let's at least try to understand why this happened.
Cody: Well the thing that Well, the the thing that sucks when you start looking into history, you're not gonna like what you find. And that's what they people don't wanna do is they don't wanna find things they don't like.
Collin Klein: Exactly.
Cody: Like I I remember I was listening to Hillary Clinton talk. She says, I'm a proud recipient of the Margaret Sanger Award. I go, who's this Margaret? I keep hearing about this Margaret Sanger chick. Who the hell so I look her up and I'm just like, holy crap.
Collin Klein: Yeah.
Cody: Margaret Sanger was one of the most racist people ever in the to live. Completely
Collin Klein: First off, I will say I agree with Jesse Lee Peterson that racism is not real.
Cody: Okay.
Collin Klein: I I don't think it's real. I don't think I I'm not saying that people aren't mean to each other or prejudice against whatever reason. But as an institution, racism is an a a thought construct that people have manifested. It's not it's not real, it's an idea.
Cody: Well the reason I Well, it's just like the concept of fair. It's not real. There's it can't exist, never will exist. There is no such thing as it. But
Collin Klein: Well, I mean, there is equilibrium in the universe, but if you're expecting fairness, yes, a hundred percent. No, that's not that doesn't
Cody: No, no, the the idea of fair is flawed. And the idea that someone thought that something should be fair is how you get communism.
Collin Klein: If you're looking at the material world, a hundred percent I agree with you. If you're looking at the spiritual world, everybody gets their dues. Everybody. No one gets away with anything.
Cody: Yeah. But that but that's not fair. That's something totally else.
Collin Klein: No, that is very fair. It's all it's the ultimate fairness. It's like you don't get away with anything.
Cody: Yeah, but what I'm saying Yeah, but my my daughter comes up to me, she tells me all the time, she's like, Well that isn't fair and I'm like I tell her, Fair is a flawed concept. We don't talk about f flaw flawed concepts around here. But ⁓ When you w I've been in the South mm about twenty years ago and I've come across some people that were like some real clan members down there, like some skinheads and stuff. And so I mean the idea that I think racism is a made up concept that people take very seriously.
Collin Klein: Mm-hmm. It's understandable how it arose out of just basic Well yes, resentment is always the thing or fear in any pre but but the problem is we've allowed resentfuls to define the term called racism.
Cody: But it's envyism. It's envy.
Collin Klein: We've allowed our enemies to define the terms of battle. That's the first mistake. They should have never been given authority to define terms. They're resentfuls. They're gonna make everything sound horrible. They're never gonna see the silver lining in anything. They're not gonna ever look at, yeah, slavery is bad, but look at what happened and you know, the good story like
Cody: The thing that the thing that gets me is in the United States when you say slavery they want you to think of black people. You know there was more than just black people that were in slavery in this country.
Collin Klein: ⁓ yeah. ⁓ yeah, no, I know yeah.
Cody: And and that's the thing that gets me ⁓ it's like, ⁓ I will do my my
Collin Klein: And it was a global institution. It wasn't it was certainly not just the United It was everywhere all over the world. That's the problem though. People don't understand like that's that's true. You're right. They were we're taught in school like American history back to slavery, and then that's all we're taught about the Civil War. Like we're not taught about anything else. We're not talking about the financing, about who financed it, who who was the money backers behind it, why did it actually happen at a geopolitical level? It's just slavery. That's retarded. That's literally stupid. That is not to say it was it slavery had a large part to do with it. It did. Because it
Cody: Mm-hmm. That's the reason we got why do you think we went to war with the Muslims down there in ⁓ you know the the song to the shores of Tripoli? ⁓ the pirates. What were the I forget the what they were called, but we went to
Collin Klein: ⁓ yeah, the ⁓ the Barbary. Yeah, Barbary Pri Yeah, but that was an insurgency of European powers. That wasn't even pirates. They were all backed by Europeans. That was a proxy war. Sound familiar?
Cody: Barbary pirates. Yeah, but I understand, but They were s they were they were styled they were the Barbary Pirates were doing commerce raiding is the best way you could describe it. They would they would take over the ships and they would emslave the crews and I'm pretty sure that there was a lot of white folks that got put into ⁓ Muslim slavery. And and if you talk about Africa and there's still slavery.
Collin Klein: I I I yeah, the no go go with your original premise. Yep.
Cody: There's still tons of slavery. Even now, there's more people enslaved now than there was ever in the whole history of the United States. Slave trade.
Collin Klein: Mm-hmm.
Cody: And so the idea that Yeah. It's it's a victim mentality that they're pushing that they're trying to get these people to hate each other because of the pigment or the ⁓ of their skin. And it's just mind boggling.
Collin Klein: Yeah Yeah, an anyone with like any sense of awareness understands that skin pigment matters very little to one's ability to be a human. Duh. Like that's not hard.
Cody: ⁓ yeah, here we go. I I can't I typed in white slavery and it brings up the Barbery Pirates right here.
Collin Klein: Yeah, no, it's it it's a st it's an arg
Cody: Well, between one and one point two five one point one and a quarter million Europeans were captured by the Barbary pirates and sold into
Collin Klein: It's an argument I don't even really get into because it's so stupid on its face. Like it's just you're dealing with crazy people that want to make an argument instead of like actually come close to the truth. And no, it's it's ridiculous. Now that doesn't mean that we divorce and say, ⁓ yeah, black blacks in America were treated like ⁓ like wonderful, like everything was great. No, it was obviously horribly messy, but and there were Bad thing, but it doesn't matter. I don't even like that's the problem. This we get sucked into this conversation and we're talking about the Civil War when there's bigger things that were afoot during that, way bigger than slavery. Slavery was a footnote as far as I'm concerned in the Civil War. It was a major footnote, but not the main driver. Not even close. That was an attempt to break up the United States of America by European powers.
Cody: There was a lot of things there, and that's one of them too, yeah. But the thing is that gets me is when people try to justify the South's but.
Collin Klein: And we just lived through another one, by the way. They're still trying to break us up. We're going through it now. But go ahead, sorry.
Cody: ⁓ yeah. I I was someone was trying to tell me that that the South wanting to leave the wanting to leave the United States it wasn't slavery or any of the other stuff. But when you read the Confederate constitution, it's there.
Collin Klein: No, yeah, it wasn't I mean, slavery was a part of it because it was like okay, 'cause it came down to property rights because the slaves at the time were on the balance sheet of slave owners. And they were a major part of the industrialization of the South, but that was not the major impetus for the Civil War. It was there as a cultural impetus.
Cody: It was it was in It was in the mix, but it you know, it it
Collin Klein: It yeah. There were big there was big money behind it. Big money.
Cody: So the problem that we have is Well, the problem that people forget is there was a government model before the federal model. That came around in eighteen seventeen ninety one.
Collin Klein: Yeah, ⁓ was talking about this last time we had him on.
Cody: And Yeah. And we were a confederacy before we were a federal government.
Collin Klein: They agree to the Articles of Confederacy instead of centralizing governance. I agree yes. I i and that's my argument with ⁓ He's like, and I'm not sure where he sits on this. I don't see how in the global world that we can operate outside of a federal government. And I hate to say that because I hate the federal government, but at the same time it's like you need
Cody: But it didn't work, so that's the reason they came up with f federal federalism.
Collin Klein: I don't know anyone that's anti like say they're anti-federalists that doesn't agree that we need a collective defense state. The problem with that is once you have a collective defense state, you now have a collective intelligence state. And what does intelligence do? It tells you what's real and what isn't.
Cody: Yeah, it can tell you that your that your lying eyes aren't seeing.
Collin Klein: Exactly. So who runs the intelligence state and the that's what we're sorting out now. We're trying to figure out who actually runs this country. That's what we're in the process of discovering, in my opinion. Not even my I think that's so self evident at this point. It's like ridiculous. Like there is a faction in this country trying to smoke out subversives to a more autonomous sovereign state. 'Cause think of it this way, and ⁓ talks about this all the time. It's like if you're a baron or a lane or a local landowner or somebody with a lot of assets, you want to protect your assets. Well, how do you do that? Well, ninety-nine percent of the time it's go along with the powers that be that are under control of your situation. Make deals, you know. But they're com but what happens when They decide to strip you down no matter what you do or say, and offshore your assets to another entity that they can control more effectively, and then you're just left in the dust, penniless. That's what the American Revolution that's how it really started. And that's what the Civil War was really about. It was about asset asset forfeiture going to other entities.
Cody: Yeah.
Collin Klein: And being h and people losing their wealth, the princes and the oligarchs losing their wealth. There were not that many slaveholders in the south compared to those who actually fought. They were the landed gentry. They were afraid of losing their assets. And it wasn't just their slaves, it was productivity. Which obviously involves slaves, a hundred percent. But but that's what it always comes down to is productivity. Are you going to take my stuff away from me? That's really what wars and these geopolitical shifts that's that's why that all happens. The only and EM's argument is that if you want to keep your wealth, you need to be tied to the land and tied to the people around you so that when the shit hits the fan, the people will come to your defense and aid when it's needed. Because this idea, the arrogance of the of the administrative state as we live under, is they are totally divorced from the land. They're intranationalists, they don't live in any one place. And they just think they're masters of the universe and they think they're protected because they have access to the networks that control the money and military force. And they've neglected the populace. And they think they can just keep psyoping us into resentful revolutions like communist revolutions that the city of London always perpetuates and bankrolls every single time as a fake revolution. To basically control the population, like here's your fake alternative. That's what the Democrat Party is today. All these millionaires and all like Bernie Sanders, the billionaires, they're taking everything. Well, he's a millionaire telling you that they're all taking everything. It's like, Well, how about you give all your money up to the poor for the cause, Bernie? Like
Cody: Well I do find it interesting that you know, I'm not gonna sit here and say I was a a fanboy of Lindsey Graham. Yeah, you know, and I'm sad I'm sorry to see him pass away. But you well, I'm sorry that anyone passes away like that, you know, unexpectedly. I I don't think he should have been at politics, but ⁓
Collin Klein: I'm not. But go ahead. He's getting one hell of a life review right now. Let's just go with that. He'll be alright. Lindsay's still with us. He's still around.
Cody: Well, what a what I'm getting at is you look at Lindsey Graham and when he left he'd been in politics thirty years. I don't know exactly how, but they pretty long time he's been around.
Collin Klein: Probably. Yeah, I think about thirty. Yeah. I don't know.
Cody: And I looked up his his net asset wealth. It was worth one point four million dollars.
Collin Klein: Yeah, everyone's been talking about that. I don't know because look, here's the thing with all these guys is I don't know how many layers of games anyone is playing. And also there's a thing called blind truss. Do you know what those are? A blind trust, yeah.
Cody: Line trusts. ⁓ yeah, where you put a yeah. You s you
Collin Klein: ⁓ talked about it. Basically you Yeah, it's it's off the ledgers. Like you don't see it, it's not accounted for part of your assets or wealth. It's
Cody: So you're saying maybe he was better at hiding the money?
Collin Klein: It's not even hard. I could get a Swiss bank account if I really w well not really. And not a Swiss one. No, not a Swiss one. But I could get a bank account in the Caymans. If I wanted to if I really wanted to, I could.
Cody: You don't have enough money. So thought you had to have twenty grand to open
Collin Klein: That I mean, this stuff is fairly accessible for the population and that's and they kinda want it that way because it becomes this just giant milieu of hidden money. We don't really know what and who owns what on the face of the planet right now. Not really. There's some people that probably have a good idea of who actually owns it, but it's not us. And those are the that's this gatekeeper class that we keep running into. Cause they have access to the the rights, the deeds, the assets, who actually owns what and how and why and what's the legitimacy for it. We have a serious problem we don't even know what things cost anymore. We don't have any idea. Like I mean, energy costs, yes, that's a good metric because it's here in the moment. But what energy could cost, we have no idea.
Cody: Well
Collin Klein: Because everything is limited and controlled.
Cody: Yeah. Yeah.
Collin Klein: So went off on a tangent there, but you were talking about Lindsey Graham and you you you you were saying because yeah, no, at least he wasn't corrupt. I've seen those stories floated around.
Cody: I didn't say it wasn't corrupt. I didn't I I I can't I don't
Collin Klein: No, you didn't say that. I apologize. You're right. You did not say that.
Cody: I'm saying is I find it interesting that when you look up his assets that he had on the books, at least his prep the the appearance is that he had 1.4 million. And you look at Bernie Sanders, who once says that there shouldn't be millionaires and millionaires. They need to give all the money tax the rich, tax the rich. He's worth like four. He has four houses.
Collin Klein: Well, Lindsay had better access to certain networks than Bernie Sanders probably does, but it's still very possible that he was a good, honest broker and lived out what he believed. I I can buy that. He was an old guy, an old gay man from South Carolina that
Cody: Do you know he was gay?
Collin Klein: ⁓ like that's an open that's a that's an open secret in Washington. That's not even like yeah.
Cody: Alleged allegedly. Yeah, but Allegedly gay.
Collin Klein: Look, I've I'll put that on me. I, Colin Klein, am accusing the ghost of Lindsey Graham as being gay. Yes.
Cody: Okay.
Collin Klein: So I'll take that one to my gr that's fine. He can sue me. He knows where to find me. So ⁓ no, I don't know for sure it's a hundred percent fact, but that's like I mean at this point it's like as understood as Hoover. Not Hoover. ⁓ Jay yeah, Jay Egg Hoover being gay yeah, no, I mean it's like it's like it's there's actually been some guys that have come forward and talked about it, but it's it's hard to verify these things 'cause like how do you verify it? Do you have a recording? It's like probably not.
Cody: ⁓ yeah. J. Edgar Hoover.
Collin Klein: So it's like people just get to accuse other people of these things and if you have legal cover it's it is really hard to prove rape. It's very difficult.
Cody: Well.
Collin Klein: And forget about rape. I'm not even saying he raped anybody. I'm just saying like if he got a male if he was into male prostitutes, that's really hard to prove.
Cody: I think we're getting off the topic here.
Collin Klein: No, I'm down to go down this about the yeah, about pro ⁓ okay. All right, well you push. All right.
Cody: I don't really want to though. I don't really No, I'm just saying that you look at the prep the preponderance is that, you know, l you know, you have Bernie Sanders coming up and talking about how great socialism is and he's just making a ton of money off of capitalism. ⁓ it's just
Collin Klein: Yeah, it's a little silly, but he also probably has the best chance of running for president for the Democratic Party as of right now. I think I actually think that may be in the cards for the next cycle. He's getting pretty old though, so who knows?
Cody: Well, I mean if Yeah. Well Gavin Newsom's definitely Dev Gavin Newsom's definitely gonna have a problem running.
Collin Klein: I mean my bet has always It's it's i it it's not gonna work. They they they threw out some tests fly. It's not gonna work. No, ⁓ he's just it's impossible. Kamala's try they're all try they don't have they're they're running into this problem. They were hoping to run the clock out and they're running out of time. Now they're the ones that are running out of time.
Cody: For him or Be ⁓ what do you mean?
Collin Klein: ⁓ I've been saying this for about six years. The Democrat Party is going to go the way of the Whigs. It will not exist in the near future. I'm not willing to put a timeline of when exactly it's gonna happen. I don't know. All I can see is they have metaphysically committed suicide. They cannot be trusted by any sound minded person ever again. And I'm not saying the Republicans are trustworthy, but they're better. liars than these people are. It's not they're not even lying at this point. They're just straight up insane and they're betting that the majority of the population is as crazy and unhinged as they are as what they're putting forward. Cause the higher ups that run the DNC, they're not they don't believe in any of this shit. They're just trying to control people and get power. But
Cody: That's the thing that gets me about them is it's like They don't care what they have to do. They just want to stay in power.
Collin Klein: Yeah, it's war. And they're materialists. They don't believe in any like metaphysical good or bad or ramifications for action. They don't believe in any of that stuff at all. Not even a little bit. They're total mercenaries, cold blooded assassins. I respect I respect the Democratic Party. I respect them a hell of a lot more than I do the Republicans.
Cody: Hey yeah.
Collin Klein: They are vicious, violent, crazy, but focused people. And they're worthy of respect.
Cody: Well
Collin Klein: The Republicans are the most ridiculous hodgepodge bunch of old insane men that think commercials are gonna win you elections.
Cody: Well the thing is that thing that gets me about the Democrats is how lockstep they got their messaging down. And, you know, you look at the the Republicans and they're mess they're you know, they're all over the place.
Collin Klein: Yeah, no, it's easy for people that don't believe in anything to just say, look at the bad guys. Well, no, they like their whole party is built on anti Trump, anti right, right wing. They look, we're not these guys. Look how crazy they are. They're telling they're saying all these crazy things. They're against the blacks, they're against the gays, they're doing all this other stuff and
Cody: Whatever it takes, yeah.
Collin Klein: And they're trying to bait us into those conversations so that they can fight us on their ground and be like, You're against these people 'cause you don't believe in equal rights. It's like, look, we're trying to get the budget balance and we're trying to get all this other stuff under control. And when's the last time you guys ever talked about the budget? Or fraud or military conquest? Like
Cody: Well, it's really hard to when you when it's really interesting when you're trying to talk about all this what is it self righteous things and when you're basically using your party platform as graft. So that way, you know, you don't believe in global warming. You're only doing it because it's a better way to steal money. You you don't believe in social injustice. You just want these people to get you in power so that they can use the government as you know I like what ⁓ did you see that episode you were you weren't there when Chris King came on the second time, were you, Ukraine?
Collin Klein: No.
Cody: When he when he was saying his theory is is the Democrats are basically political ⁓ well politics is in New Mexico is basically political ⁓ what is it, money laundering.
Collin Klein: No.
Cody: You know. And and and and the more you think about it
Collin Klein: Yes.
Cody: Every time we get in there and we start cleaning stuff up they get real mad because they you know, USAID and you do all this stuff and you know now they're they're mad because they're losing their money stores.
Collin Klein: Let's be very clear about that. Did we do that or did the faction backing Trump do that? Look, I I don't think Trump could do what he did without the backing of the American people as much as he ha like I don't think I I I do think that the work that everyday people put in mattered in creating the conditions for him to do what he's doing now. That being said, when it comes to local polit politics or even state level, it a hundred percent comes down to money. Almost every time. I know people try to say that it doesn't, it does. It just any political, any political strategist, anybody in that world will tell you create crafting a story in marketing, that's the easy part. It's the money. It's always the money. Obviously. Like I don't know why this is a shock to people. Not I'm not saying it is to you. I know you understand this. I'm just saying like I knew this when I was ten and it's like I'm seeing adults wake up to this now and I'm like, Jesus, like we got some work to do folks. Like
Cody: No, no, yeah, I'm just like diggesting.
Collin Klein: I that's ⁓ that's I don't know what it is. It's like people watch fairy tales so long they believe Fox News is another fairy tale and they just listen I I don't it's not even Fox, it's just I mean, it really comes down to people are just overwhelmed and exhausted. And we're we're entering into an accelerator ⁓ like events are gonna happen so quickly now, faster than they've ever happened in human history. You're gonna have decades take place within a year, and it's only gonna get faster. That very few humans are gonna be able to keep up with all this, and a lot of humans are gonna just
Cody: Yeah.
Collin Klein: Crash out, basically.
Cody: Yeah.
Collin Klein: And God bless the boomers, but I don't think they're most of them are equipped for this.
Cody: They just can't take the mental start. Well, you know, we've got a lot of heat for our criticism of the boom boomers before. Hey, knock it off.
Collin Klein: I'm not criticizing them, I'm just saying a fact, you guys lived in a different world than we did, and you know what you know. That's it. It's not your fault, it's what happened. And you guys hold all the wealth and make all the decisions and you think things are a lot more simple than they actually are. They're extraordinarily complicated.
Cody: Yeah.
Collin Klein: And I would love for the boomers to find some humility to reevaluate why and how all this crazy stuff happened. And a lot have, many have. But most have not. That's my criticism of the boomers. It's not that I and I love boomers. I don't hate them. I just I wish you guys would just take a step back and look at the decisions you've made and look at why you believe what you believe and just reevaluate everything. That's it.
Cody: Well the problem is when you had people coming home from World War Two and they started having the boomer generation, this idea of everything's gonna just keep going up and up and up and up, you know, buy a house, do this, buy a house, generations of this stuff. The problem is is that's not the way it was before World War Two. And the boomers were born into this idea
Collin Klein: They were born into the golden age, into the age of prosperity, so all they saw was prosperity.
Cody: Yeah, and that prosperity was brought on by their parents coming back from war, thus the baby boom and all this other stuff. And
Collin Klein: Yes. Fourth turning. Yep.
Cody: And when you look at that same thing happened after the Civil War, they had this boom for a couple you know, two one or two generations and then it started the plateau, and that's when you had the Great De R the Great Depression and it drops. And we're at that point now. Eighty years after
Collin Klein: Yes. Yep. That's what that's all about. Right there.
Cody: Yeah. Eighty we're on that eighty year cycle. We're coming up to the end and you're gonna watch a great reset. And I don't mean that one like Glenn Beck, but well, it's it things are gonna go back to the way they were. That's the reason.
Collin Klein: Yeah. But this is no no no no no no no no no. They are not going back to the way they were. No.
Cody: Well, as far as like owning houses and generational
Collin Klein: No well maybe we'll see. I hope so, but I I'm not even holding my breath out for that. It's so
Cody: Well, you can't sustain these housing prices, man. You can't expect people to be spending half a million dollars for houses. And the idea
Collin Klein: No, there there will be some adjudication here here's what I don't trust as far as the Trump side goes, 'cause here's this is my anti Trump thing. It's not anti Trump. It's I have a deep sneaking suspicion with Look, th we live in the age of Donald Trump right now because he has sucked all the oxygen out of the room by the very nature of his character and how present he is and how hard he works. So everything we talk about is in relationship to Donald Trump, whether we like it or not. Because he's
Cody: Well, the thing that's getting me right now with him is they kept saying that if he keeps this up, he's gonna pull us into World War Three or the World War Four, depending on w what crowd you're talking to. But I think he's getting really close. What?
Collin Klein: We've been in World War Three. We've been in World War Three. I know what you mean, like a hardcore kinetic. That's not okay. This actually is gonna bring us back to what I really wanted to go down the road with you on was When people say World War Three, what do you think that looks like? Who is our enemy and who are we gonna fight against? What are you talking about?
Cody: The thing is is like realistically if you think about it, the Cold War was the third world war. It wasn't a kinetic war though. Although we were doing a It was
Collin Klein: Correct. It was Vietnam, Korea, those were all that was all the Cold War. Cuba I mean, all those wars during that time, the that was the Cold War.
Cody: Cuba Yeah, but you know, you didn't have the Russians and the you didn't have the Soviets and the Americans squaring off on the the field of battle. Well you did, but you know, it wasn't it wasn't
Collin Klein: Sure you did. Absolutely you did. Proxies. Hey, I don't know if you know the concept called sheep dipping. You hear that? Okay. All right. All right.
Cody: I I I I understand what you're saying. But what I'm saying is that most people that look at a general outline of war
Collin Klein: Yeah, 'cause they were raised in schools and they're now retarded. So I hear what you're saying. I know most people understand it in that context. It's wrong. A hundred percent wrong.
Cody: Yeah. So we're getting ready to get into another world war and I think that you know the China Russia's like I just don't underst there's so much going on over there, it's just
Collin Klein: Simplify it. Bring it down to where you understand it and what you see it as it's unfolding, because that's how most people see it as it's unfolding.
Cody: Well well first part is when you look at the history of that region of the world R Iran has been at war with us for f since they became a you know, since the Ayatollah got into power.
Collin Klein: Since we put the Ayatollah in power.
Cody: Since you well, there I'm not even going that I understand, but what I'm saying
Collin Klein: Since Operation Ajax since Operation Ajax and he came out of a French embassy, a French commune on Air France and was flown in with concierge service to take over Iran, which wasn't a real country until the British developed it and turned it into Iran. It's really Persia. It's called Persia, exactly. Iran is a British construct. That's my point. Yes. Yes.
Cody: You're k Well, Persia existed before. I r Iran, yes. When but Yeah, you keep fucking me up like that. The idea that we're not f gonna fight against I we need to go and kick Iran's ass. They've been killing Americans for fifty years. And they e either it's the in Yemen, Houthis, the whatever these proxies are
Collin Klein: Sorry. I know. Sorry. It's all right. This is good. I I'm sorry, that is not a good argument.
Cody: I'm not done.
Collin Klein: How many millions of people have we killed in the Middle East?
Cody: Well the idea first off is like I have to say this, when when when Trump is all mad because those two very ⁓ brave service men, I'm not trying to denigrate their service at all, got killed. My first thought
Collin Klein: Not at all. One was nineteen. Little a kid. Nineteen year old got blown up. No, I cried about it. I I I shed I I'm like it's so sad.
Cody: I know, it's like he barely Yeah. ⁓ it it tears me apart. But I'm sitting here going, you know, you and I'm glad he went down and saluted the the coffins and everything. But it's like he's all upset. And I'm like, what the fuck did you think was gonna happen? You think they're just gonna get take it on the chin and not retaliate? We wouldn't.
Collin Klein: I I I don't think he thought that for a second. I think it was very well understood that we're gonna take casualties in this. I think that's insane.
Cody: ⁓ I know. And and it it's the it's this the same thing. You have you have one thing on you have sex and intrigue and all this distraction on one hand, you could park a carrier group over here. It's the same thing. It's it's for the it's all for show.
Collin Klein: Well ⁓ well it is, but also sometimes a show is important. A show can dictate the consciousness of a people. A whole ⁓ like movies are our current churches.
Cody: Yeah. He's tr but he's trying to just ⁓ yeah.
Collin Klein: Like they give us our common reference point for reality. You go to a different church and you ask someone like, ⁓ did you hear about this? No one knows what you're talking about. But if you say, ⁓ do you know about this moral story that we learned in this movie? Now everyone's ⁓ yeah, no, I saw that. No, I understand. Anyway, but no but sorry, finish your thought.
Cody: It's like he's what he's trying to do is like and it pisses me off that Trump is He's being like every other political monster out there. Yeah, these two service members that were in the middle of Jordan, like w my first question, what the what the hell are we doing in Jordan? Like what the f what the hell, right? Well, I understand we need to be there, but it's like why are we the policemen of the world? So but ⁓
Collin Klein: Well, British owned it because we're the policemen for the British and if we just upped and left everything, the whole then you would get World War four en masse. You have to unwind the empire and create stability within all these regions.
Cody: Well, I understand, but it's just he's it's it's all political theater and it's just frustrates the shit out of me to watch this.
Collin Klein: It's not all political theater necessarily. Necessarily. I'm I'm open to that being the case that he is that cold blooded. I've watched Trump ever since he first stepped onto the stage nonstop. Every speech, every public appearance, everything I can get not all of it, not a hundred percent, but about ninety five, ninety percent of it. I at least get to see and I don't believe that Trump likes watching people get killed for no good reason. But the thing with Iran well okay, fine, let's go back to what the Iran war is about. Because the current narrative going around is that Israel tricked us into it with bad intelligence. Steve Bannon has said that. And look, I don't tr people are like, well, you trust Steve Bannon. No, I don't trust Steve Bannon, but he has he talks for four hours a day.
Cody: I believe I don't believe he does it either. But at the same time
Collin Klein: He ran the Trump campaign. He's around in that circle. If he just says wild, outlandish lies without any backing, then that will destroy his credibility because he's on the public scene with a bunch of truthers that are trying to understand what's really going on. And if they smell any ounce of BS coming from this guy, he's gonna get torn apart by his own audience.
Cody: Well
Collin Klein: They w I I know these people. I've been around them. Like at the local level, they all watch this guy's show. I know that sounds weird, but that's why I watch it, 'cause they all watch it and I'm trying to understand what they're seeing. Go ahead, sorry.
Cody: I don't really have a I don't have ⁓ ⁓ I understand and my I have really you know, I when we we were around him when we were doing
Collin Klein: I know, I know the story. I know. Look, we told that story a like a dozen times. I yeah.
Cody: Yeah, but it's just I I I find him he I think he's totally full of shit. ⁓
Collin Klein: I I hear what you're saying, and in a sense he is, but this is my thing. It's like you don't get full authenticity with anybody.
Cody: Well yeah.
Collin Klein: Like who's truthful like the most truthful person you've ever like, I I don't know who they are. Say, well, my pastor always tells me the truth. Well, not till recently.
Cody: Well, I know someone. I don't know, I think you're I think Dan Sr. was pretty was pretty hard hardcore in truth.
Collin Klein: I w I would put Dan Senior up there. Yeah, I agree with that. He was
Cody: I don't think that you're a grandfather and I mean I love him and I but if he thought it was the truth, that's what he thought it was.
Collin Klein: That's right. And he had cognitive dissonance like everyone else does, that you put your blinders up for things that you cannot incorporate into your model of reality because then that throws everything else out of whack. You've built a rhythm for your life and any disruption is met like that's why people are so angry and violent right now or like antagonistic to talking about any of this. They don't want their they're barely keeping on they're they're barely keeping their material lives together. They don't need any more disruption.
Cody: Yeah, and and and it really boils down to the the bottom line is that people just want to live their lives and be left alone.
Collin Klein: Yeah, and my problem is they just proved to us we're not gonna be left alone. They crossed a line that is unforgivable in my book. That's why I am so hardcore about this. They crossed a line that we have gone to war over, like way less stuff than this. People should be raised like hung from lampposts for what happened. All around the country. And I'm not calling for that. I'm saying under a court of law, judiciously, if we brought back public executions.
Cody: I know. Well, I understand.
Collin Klein: Tens of thousands of bad actors that killed millions of people should be hung from lampposts. That's all I'm saying. Hypothetically.
Cody: Yeah. Well.
Collin Klein: If they were responsible for that and that was proven. But that's what happened in my book.
Cody: Yeah. Yeah. Well, the thing I have a trouble with is like there's why is the people the the the the thing that really bothers me about the Democrats right now is the this tug of thug bullshit. It's like why are you so pro criminal?
Collin Klein: Why why do you even give them any air like why why even try to understand why they believe what they believe? They don't have any thoughts. They're told what to think.
Cody: No no no no that's Well it Why no? But that's the thing is is fur it this falls under my rules as stupid. I've told you the rules of stupid, right? First rule is is don't try to understand stupid.
Collin Klein: I I I I'm It yes. I understand. I'm just saying that this is deeper instead like, you know, I understand these sayings you can't fix stupid I get that. I'm saying that they have been dil like a large portion of our population has been deliberately targeted because they're suggestible neurotics that will follow authority structures no matter what, just like in the Soviet Union, just like in Maoist China, just like in any whenever this happens throughout human history, England it's happened in almost every country that's still stayed alive, any of the great civilizations. And we're in that phase now. We're a young country. We really haven't gone through too many of these cycles. We've gone through I mean the Civil War was a the major one. The revolution was obviously the kick start to all this. But the Civil War, we've never recovered from the Civil War. Ever. We we have it it has become we have n when I say recovered, we have not
Cody: Well no the problem
Collin Klein: made peace with the civil war and what it was really about. And that is gonna have to be sorted karmically.
Cody: No, we had we What what I find interesting is if you look at the If you look at society in the fifth forties and fifties, especially black culture, they were pretty civilized. And they were coming to the into their own and they were targeted and they put stuff to to disrupt and kill the ⁓ kill and kill the black family.
Collin Klein: Yeah. R right, but what does this have to do with you can't fix look, I have a real problem people just saying the Democrats are stupid. I'm saying it's I'm saying it's worse than stup I'm saying it's worse than stupid well I'm I'm well the everyday person walking around, it's like everyday Republicans. It's like how many Republicans could I sit down and have this conversation with that we're having right now?
Cody: No, I don't think they're stupid. I think they're evil, but Mm, probably not very many. 'Cause they would have gotten up and walked off, yeah.
Collin Klein: Like less than w less than one percent. They would and what would hold them what would make them uncomfortable?
Cody: Well what we've attacked Trump to you know
Collin Klein: I didn't attack him. I I'm I'm s
Cody: ⁓ I did. I I don't like the idea that we're going to war.
Collin Klein: Right, but okay, I I actually am fine with this war. I'm good with it. Do you wanna know why? Look, this is what's kind of strange, is we've been talking about this for over a year, and it still feels like There's something missing in the story in the plot that you got like you guys are very intelligent. That's not the issue. But for some reason, I don't know if you and I could be wrong about this plot. It could be totally wrong. But I don't understand like it's a theory. Let's go with that right now. We're we're operating under a theory that we are breaking away from the City of London financial center.
Cody: Well if you look at it from that well yeah, I understand. And that k that's a resign resounding theme in a lot of the stuff that you you go off. I I but I I come back to a different point.
Collin Klein: Correct.
Cody: I don't like the idea now that I'm a parent. I I live through my twenty years of war. The idea of us g putting our young children out there to fight this bullshit. So I and if so when I come at it from that, that's why I'm pissed off is like the guy that came off as like I'm gonna stop all these wars. If Russia would have gone if this would have happened while I was in there Russia wouldn't be Russia wouldn't be
Collin Klein: Hundred percent. Right. But
Cody: You know, it's like and now he's I understand we ha at some point we have to get in there and break up the British the British ⁓ monarch monopoly of this bullshit and and and part of the way that they're monopolizing it is the risk of taking ships through there they're able to run the insurance company. Insurance and finances and
Collin Klein: Well, th that's true, but why? Monopoly. Monopoly. Over the choke points. Yeah. Yes. With and and they outsourced all the violence to America. And guess what? Violence is the ultimate currency, as ⁓ so tells us, you know? It's the ultimate currency. We hold all the cards. That's why Trump says that. We can kill anyone we want. You guys can't do shit about it.
Cody: Yeah. And the fact that we're making them like Well yeah, I I I think it's funny when the people that are telling us we have to protect them are telling us how and the means in which we're gonna do it.
Collin Klein: Tech too. The people that tell us that we're gonna protect something. Cody?
Cody: Well the the when you It's like that that line out of ⁓ it's kinda like when you watch a few good men that that line when he's on the the thing. You know, you need us on that wall. Well we're the United States. They need us on that wall, they want us on that wall, but they're gonna sit there and dictate the t way in which we're going to patrol that wall and we're gonna have ⁓ you know, how we're gonna do it. They wanna have a say but they don't wanna put their ass on the line. And it gets it just frustrates the shit out of me.
Collin Klein: Yes. Well ⁓ there's an amazing movie. ⁓ ⁓ man, I forgot the name of it. It's it's it's I think it's Sound of Glory. It's something glory, but it's about ⁓ a French battalion or a French platoon in World War One and they were overrun by Germans and it wasn't their fault. It was a miscommunication with the officer class that messed everything up. But because they fell back, that platoon or that regiment was ⁓ considered to be cowardly and they had to they basically told the lieutenant like you have to pick out ⁓ three guys to be executed for cowardice on behalf of the whole platoon. Paz to glory. That's the name of it. Paths to glory. It's on YouTube. Highly recommend everyone watch that. And it it dis it it shows you in high relief the disconnect between what we would call the officer class and the worker class. The elites and the laborers. The you know It it's a very ⁓ classist movie, but this is the thing with the communists or the leftists or the socialists that we call them. They're right about that, that there are different classes, and that's something the right hasn't quite agreed with because we don't like especially in America, because we don't like that idea. We don't wanna like we don't want to bow and scrape to somebody that's like rich and be like, ⁓ your majesty, you know. We're not like that. So I get
Cody: Well because Well, the 'cause it's because like Woodrow Wilson and Roosevelt RF you know Theodore Ro not Theodore, but Franklin Delano Roosevelt. They introduced this concept through their social programs of the middle class and the upper middle class and and the the concept is is that the United States hasn't have a class system because we're not part of the monarchy. But so the the resistance to that
Collin Klein: Well Well, it wasn't just them. Go ahead, sorry. I'm sorry. Finish your thought.
Cody: This is the resistance to that is definitely paramount. But you know, when you come down to it, ⁓ They they do they they come up with a class system to just to keep people in line. And it's it's all about envy. It always comes back to envy. Everything comes back to envy. So they want us to go, yeah, and the more we dive into it, the more EM's concept works. And it's just that's part of the thing in this last year that you we've talked to these people and it's just mind blowing how they're linking it us all up. I've changed my opinion a lot on how it all links up.
Collin Klein: Yep. I mean that's why ⁓ calls them the resentfuls. Which is good and I changed mine too. Like I haven't been solid state in this whole process either. You know, it's been changing as it No, I mean I I
Cody: No, I didn't s I didn't wanna think I yeah. You've softened your your sales a lot too.
Collin Klein: I I believed we were under full blown attack and all red-blooded men needed to stand up and fight back now. And if we don't, we're going to die. Like that was my mentality, and it still is to a degree. But as I've opened up to the spiritual aspect of all this and the operating system behind man and why people do what they do, now it's starting to make a lot more sense why this all is Having to happen the way it is. And it's not like it's like I believe that there is free agency and we can mitigate damage. That's always there. But the logical conclusion is always going to come about. It's it's that and that's what Christianity brings to the forefront is that we have faith that the creator. God is going has laid this out in a way that we're not this isn't all just a giant waste of time. That's what killed me is thinking of all the sacrifices our ancestors went through to get us to this point for us to shit the bed on the most absurd, insane BS fear slop that I've ever seen in my entire life. I in not even my life. In human history, I've never seen a fear campaign waged this intensely and this stupidly on any population, let alone the population of the entire planet all at the same time. I've never seen that.
Cody: Yeah. Yeah.
Collin Klein: And it's gonna take us probably a couple of generations to recover from it. But anyway, but
Cody: mean I'm just tired. I'm not trying to say you're boring me. Just so we're clear.
Collin Klein: No, no, it's it's fine. No, we'll wrap up here soon. ⁓ but I do want to get more into the spiritual components of this as we're seeing it. But in order to get there, we're gonna have to understand why phenomenologically this is all happening in front of us. And you're saying yeah, okay, I d here's what I hear you saying. You don't like Trump or any politician using
Cody: Well
Collin Klein: politiciary, you know, like they're fighting for their country and all this stuff and then showing up to Dover for the bodies and putting on a show when really they don't give a damn. ⁓
Cody: Well, I think he did a better job than ⁓ Biden did where he's like sitting there looking at his watch though how much longer is this shit you know, I he was respectful but It's just like what did y it was like They act the the the the re the right wing weenia is acting like, ⁓ my god, they shot a missile at us and killed these people. It's like what the fuck did you think was gonna happen? Rainbows and y and ice cream here, man? We're d we're shooting and killing people over there and your man
Collin Klein: I I mean based on the amount of ordinance we've launched, I can't believe we've only had I think we've had I think it's less than ten deaths so far. Sixteen? Okay. I mean that's like that's very impressive, to be honest, with this kind of campaign. It's kind of shocking. Like if we were really at full war with Iran, why are there sleeper cells not launching all over the United States, blowing everything up?
Cody: We're up to sixteen. Yeah. Which is impressive considering the ⁓ yeah, I mean I I mean I'm I I'm glad Well, the theory is the theory is on well, they are hitting Israel according to them. The theory that they're saying is the reason that that's not happening is the re that FBI's foiling all that stuff, but
Collin Klein: Why are they not hating Israel? No, not really. Why are they not hitting UAE? Why are they not hitting Saudi Arabia? Why did they have all these launchers? Why are they not hitting all this shit?
Cody: Well they ha they are shooting at Saudi Arabia. And they're shooting at the UAE.
Collin Klein: A little bit, but dude I'm telling you. But this is my point though, like to what degree they're okay, you're right, you're right. I I said they're not shooting, they are, but in terms of total war, we're not seeing total war. This is limited.
Cody: Well that's the thing that The thing the thing that gets me is ⁓ shit, I lost my train of thought. God damn it.
Collin Klein: ⁓ about about the Iranians targeting.
Cody: It's just I don't know. I I'm not a fan of the Iranians and I understand that there's this history.
Collin Klein: But why? But why is the question? Why are you not a fan of and I'm not either I don't care to be honest with you, I'm an American. It's got nothing.
Cody: Well maybe it's just because maybe it's just because I'm tired of having a country out there, death to America. I'm really getting tired of this and I'm looking more into it to see make sure that I'm not being gaslit and ⁓ Syab what w let me finish. ⁓ I'm really getting worried about the the Muslim uprising in Europe and they're basically inf infiltrating doing what they couldn't do through mass
Collin Klein: You are You ⁓ Yep.
Cody: conquest, but they're doing through soft conquest. They they're going in and taking getting elected to all these places. Yeah, they're doing a soft take over instead of a full military takeover. And I'm not saying I'm not anti U Islam ⁓ Muslim, but I d I don't really like the idea of them building all their mosques and all that stuff around here. And the idea of go i And I and I and I'm gonna be honest, I kinda like the idea of going to war with them.
Collin Klein: Yeah. Loc local city councils and all that yeah. Mm-hmm. Me either. No, me either. But you're talking about them targeting a bunch of other Islamic countries that aren't exactly saints in this whole drama.
Cody: Against I think the problem that I come down to is like you have different kinds of Muslims. You have you know, it's like we were talking with that gentleman from the gym. We the and I was like, What about y what do think about this commun Muslim communism? You you have the you have democra you have socialist Muslims like Iran, then you have kingdoms.
Collin Klein: Yeah.
Cody: like Saudi and D UAE and all this stuff. And it's just know, i it it I just it's hard to
Collin Klein: My my my argument with all these guys is it would be a lot more clear if people looked at how financial transactions are taking place at a global scale. Forget about the narrative that you hear on the news. When you watch money transfers and who is allowed to be clear like what clearing houses are allowing for certain transactions, like how is it that Iran is able to conduct international finance? Right now it's it's through the proxies of China and Russia, but they're all heavily sanctioned too. And we control a lot of the SWIFT system around the world and the US dollar is in insanely high demand. I know people are like, ⁓ the dollar's dying. It's like look, the US dollar is the ultimate backing like backed currency on the currency markets.
Cody: Well definitely Trump has done a lot to fortify that position.
Collin Klein: ⁓ no doubt. But but that's what it ultimately comes down to is the money.
Cody: Yeah. But when But when you come you you yeah, when you take it from that, the idea that we finally I've come to the realism ⁓ one of the sources of the power through the 'cause the when you look at the you have the English influence, how they they do the same thing. They're doing a soft war. They're they're no longer in sending troops all over the world. They're doing it through finance. That's how they're taking over the world. The British.
Collin Klein: Yeah, Brit and by the way, British. British. Not English. British. Very different. But I know what you mean. I'm just saying for the audience, for pe for the people out there, there's a difference between British and English. To ⁓ in my worldview.
Cody: They're still island monkeys if Yeah. ⁓ clarify.
Collin Klein: Yeah, and I think it's really important. But
Cody: Wouldn't know what the what's what what's the difference?
Collin Klein: It's what we've been talking about the last year is England was conquered in about sixteen sixty eight when they cut Charles head head off and a and a bunch of Dutch loyal like like oligarchs came in and bought up parliamentarians in England and basically did a soft coup. Cromwell tried to stop it. He was he died and might have been killed, I don't know, but
Cody: Okay. ⁓ yeah. When they had the English Revolution, yeah.
Collin Klein: ⁓ but the monarchy was dead at that point, and then who brought the monarchy back? The Dutch. Under their protection. And that's the Praetorian Guard. You think your security is your protection? No, they're not. They're your assassins.
Cody: Well that makes sense that yeah. And it is interesting that they actually had to change the name of the royal family because they were all Germans. You know. That's why they changed the the House of Windsor, yeah.
Collin Klein: Well yeah, no. ⁓ well it's why they also changed it but it's also why they changed it from English to British. They wanted to disconnect the history of what the English people did. The Britannies were a small clan in southern England when the Romans invaded during the Viking Wars. And they were extinguished a long time before that happened. So why did they name the small like they chose the name of the smallest kingdom that was wiped out first to be the name of the glorious empire, the British Empire. Brit Brittany. Brittany. That's an old Slavic tribe that was wiped out deck like a thousand years before this even happened. It's a Psyop. Psyops are not new to today. They've been going on a long time.
Cody: Mm-hmm.
Collin Klein: It was easier to rewrite history in the past. Today it's a little trickier. Still doable.
Cody: Well yeah, I understand. So anyways, let's wrap this up because we're getting a little long in the tooth. Where do we wanna see ourselves the the question I want to ask though when that we're gonna end this on, is we've had all this time with this discovery over the last fifty two episodes, so a full year of episodes. ⁓ where do you wanna go now?
Collin Klein: I I I want to go into the more esoteric, into the and when I say so again, X here's terms. These are just words, nothing magical about them. Esoteric is the external world that we see around us. Esoteric is the world that we see within us. That's all it means. Going within and expounding upon that and maybe opening up to different perceptions of reality, including the Muslim perception. It'd be useful to learn how the Muslims perceive reality compared to us.
Cody: I wonder if we could get an interview with some muzzle ⁓
Collin Klein: I'm sure we could. That's a great idea. I would love to do that.
Cody: And we should we should interview some Muslims and comp comp ⁓ contrast.
Collin Klein: Yeah, no, we can talk to the Muslims. That'd be great. I'd love to. And and by the way
Cody: Yeah, ma ⁓ you know, it's like 'cause maybe instead of standing here being upset at my perception of reality, we should actually research what the actual reality is. Because
Collin Klein: Spoken like a good Englishman. I agree. Let's understand our enemies before we kill them. That's a good idea. I'm just kidding. No, we're not killing the Muslims. Look, the Muslims are, it's like Christianity or any other Protestant religion. It's that we're all aiming toward the divine and God, and we just need to find our way to get there. And some people grew up in different situations. And I would say I have been studying the Sufi branch of Islam, and it is very. Very interesting. It's now I I'm still gonna be a Christian. I'm not going into Sufism. I don't I think it's ultimately a dead end. And quite frankly, my theory on Islam is that it was started by I'm not gonna say the Jesuits, but a sect of jet of basically Vatican intelligence that seeded this idea.
Cody: Okay, so I we're gonna write that down. We gotta that's one thing we're gonna try to figure out where
Collin Klein: ⁓ I think Islam is basically a psyop, unfortunately. I think that's kind of where I'm at. Yeah.
Cody: Well, we're gonna bring we're gonna we're gonna bring evidence to the to the forefront and prove.
Collin Klein: I ⁓ I a look, that's conjecture. I do have some You're right. I I should I should try to make a case for this 'cause I I just keep
Cody: Yeah, so I I think you know, I I showed anger and frustration towards my perception. I should bring evidence to well, I should try to prove my opinion and do some real research.
Collin Klein: Well, it it's not even about like like l like ⁓ being like, ⁓ these are good gu it's like understanding your enemy is the most important thing to defeat them. Sometimes people don't wanna understand like the neocons are a perfect example of this.
Cody: Well, maybe through our v investigation we find out that they're not really our enemies. I don't know. We should investigate it.
Collin Klein: But they're they're all humans, everyone's human, but it's like but people are caught up in ideas and religiosity and insanity and they're gonna do crazy shit because they were told to.
Cody: ⁓ I understand. So
Collin Klein: Christians do this too, but is but Muslims, yes, they are a they they need to have a come to Jesus moment. ⁓ For sure. ⁓ no, every pun and tends agree.
Cody: No pun int well, every pun intendant. So but ⁓ it's been a very exciting, like old school back to the just the two of us where we started. I thought that was kinda cool that here it is episode fifty two and we started the way we were we're having a we're we're having a convers conversation the way we started. ⁓
Collin Klein: Yeah. No, I like this. This was nice. Thank you. Good idea.
Cody: Yeah, good good yeah. So anyways, if you guys wanna help us out, go check us out on our Patreon. You can the link will be in the description. if you wanna help s pay for some of this stuff and help us continue to stay on the air, we have a merch store, check that out. And if you like what we're saying, go ahead and subscribe to this craziness.
Collin Klein: And if you want to apply for an interview or if you have interviewee suggestions, anything like that for more content, we're I I'm open and I'll I can do stuff on my own too. And we're op I'm open to all takers. I'm I'm down for it. So someone wants wants to come on and tangle, let's like I'll do it with me. I'm not I'm making an executive decision for you, Cody, but for me personally, I'd be willing to do that. And then I'll leave editorial decisions up for Cody for the channel. How about that?
Cody: Yes. When did you ever start doing that? Instead of you're just coming up with ideas that we should have implemented.
Collin Klein: I'm just throwing that out there now, it just came to me. Hey, you want to talk to Muslims? Hey, any Muslims wanna talk? Let's go. I'm down to talk. I love you, mother. That sounds great. I'd love to.
Cody: I'm serious. We ⁓ instead of all right. Let's try to get ⁓ some Muslims on and have a real understanding
Collin Klein: In the spirit of understanding, I want to understand your position. That's
Cody: I wanna I don't wanna sound like a racist bigot. Or a b a big I I'm not a racist. I I hate that term when they combine I don't wanna sound like a bigot. So
Collin Klein: Yes. I want to Yeah. We see you as humans, we love you in the in the in the image of God as we are created, and we just want to understand your position. That's it.
Cody: Exactly. So But anyways, leave some ⁓ leave us some suggestions are are ways they get a hold of us or no are numerous and go ahead and reach out with some suggestions. Tell me and tell us how great much you like Colin's beard. I mean make the man feel good. So all right. On that note, thank you all for watching. Colin, you have a nice week. We'll talk to you next week. And ⁓ thank you.
