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Well, hello everybody. You are listening to the Trifecta where UFOs,
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the Paranormal Encryptids Collide, the official podcast of Rocky Mountain
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Ranch Research. I am your host, Katie Page, and do
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they have a treat for you tonight? We have good
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friend Eric Hecker. And Eric spent time at in Antarctica
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and discovered some things, and he has been blowing the
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whistle on some of his discoveries and I'm looking forward
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to diving deep into what he's discovered. But before we
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do a few quick reminders, I hope that all of
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you out there are having a fantastic beginning of your
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week and that you're having more wonder than worry. It's
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crazy times out there, and I hope you're all hanging
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in there. I'm happy that you're here with us today,
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and whether it's morning, afternoon, or night, I hope it's
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been a good one. Also, I'm gonna ditch the three
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questions things. I'm not going to be doing that. You know,
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nobody's been sending in their answers, so we're not going
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to be doing that anymore. But instead, if you are
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interested in extra content, you can always go to Rocky
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Mountain Ranch Research with Katie Page. We do have a Patreon,
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so please check that out and be sure to check
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out our website as well, Rocky Mountain Ranch Research for
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updates and all the things that are going on with us. Also,
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if you have questions for Eric tonight, please be sure
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to write your questions in all uppercase it lets us
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know that that is a question. So, without further ado,
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let's please welcome Eric Hecker to the show. We add
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him in here. There you are, How you.
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Doing, Eric, I'm doing fantastic, Katie. I'm really excited about
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being here today. Thank you for for having me.
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Of course, you know, we've got to meet a couple
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of times in person out there in the San Luis
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Valley and gotten to know you, and I find your
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work not only brave and daring, but fascinating. And some
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of these things, you know, like weather manipulation and harp
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and things like that, truly interesting, truly interesting. But before
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we get dived deep into all of that, I would
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just love to get a little background, you know, on
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you know, your life, where you were born, where you
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were raised, if you had anything happen to you when
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you were younger, and how you ended up where you
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were to day. Hello wizard Lady, thanks for being here tonight.
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Hey wizardly, that's a that's a very fair question. I've
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walked a very peculiar path. It's the reason when I
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first went public on YouTube, initially I went under the
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moniker of deciphering my experience because I did have things
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happen from where I was born up until now. Contemporarily,
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I was born in Bethpage, Long Island, which is the
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hom of Grummin and the Lunar module, and I was involved, unfortunately,
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with what we now refer to just commonly as the
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Stargate program, which was you know, had many hands in
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it through the years, CIA, DA Army, a whole bunch
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of different folks, and for all practical purposes, they were
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working with children and going through the Monroe Institute remote
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viewing protocols, and unfortunately it seems like they were administering
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drugs without my parents' knowledge. It seems like there was
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some mk ultra type abuse, which is super unfortunate, but
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that was where my paths started. I eventually wound up
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having a short stint in the United States Submarine Service,
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which was super eye opening and one of the more
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peculiar aspects of my life. From there, I got a
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career as a plumber in the Greater Long Island area,
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specifically for peculiarity. The north shore of Long Island is
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referred to as the Gold Coast, and the reason being
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is there's a lot of affluence there that is at
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a level that most people don't know. I worked in
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a lot of the military industrial complex corporation facilities in
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the Greater Long Island area, companies like AI L, t RW, Grumming,
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SAI C SO, all of the nefarious companies, and I
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worked at the homes of the owners Paul Corporation, Doctor Paul.
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Doctor Paul was a customer of mine that I you know,
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met him face to face. His facilities were very peculiar.
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The greater Rosalind area in Long Island. I would say,
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you know, if people study the history of our nation,
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George Washington's espionage ring started in Nassau County, Long Island,
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That's where our nation started. That's where the divide between
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the loyalists and the patriots were. So I've been doing
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research with folks and putting out information that shows that
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you know, Rosalind, Long Island is the birthplace of American
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espionage and it's never left. I also worked at the
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homes of you know, former Director Central of Intelligence, and
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their homes are in the Roslyn area. So I went
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from having this career where I became an exceptional plumber
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and had a history with these organizations, and eventually I
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gleaned a contract to go work at the South Paul
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Station in Antarctica, where I wound up working from November
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of twenty ten until November of twenty eleven. Certainly there
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was pros and cons to that employment, but what wound
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up happening from my experience there and then continued research
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into the peculiarity and then you know, communicating with former
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crew members and other researchers, I discovered that what was
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really going on under the false pretenses of scientific experimentation,
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that there are three directed energy weapons systems that are
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functioning there. And in June of twenty twenty three, I
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actually went to Washington, D C. And I testified in
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two separate skiffs secret compartmented information facilities. One was for
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the Senate Intelligence Committee and that one was led by
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none other than Kirk McConnell. And then I also testified
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in a skiff for Arrow a ro o, and I
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can't state who I communicated with in that engagement, but
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I am, you know, under no other obligations, and I
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can discuss everything that occurred. I am not under restrictions
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of NDAs other than not giving the names and addresses
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of the Arrow folks. So I'm open to any questions
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that you have, and I'm going to do my best
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to you know, answer and and let everybody know what's
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really going on because I'm trying to decipher my experience
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in real time with everyone.
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Yeah, well, before we get to that, I kind of
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want to backtrack a little bit. First of all, how
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amazing is it? And it kind of reminded me of
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the movie The Breakfast Club. You know, I'm the eyes
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and ears of this institution. So here you are an
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important people's homes as a plumber, and I can't help
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but imagine and maybe this is just me, and I
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mean not that I'm mosy or anything, but you can't
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help but kind of look around and poke around and
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be able to hear some things that you're kind of like,
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that's weird. What did I just hear? So I can
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imagine that must have happened for your movie started building
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your curiosity. But before we get to what you discovered
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an antartica and all that, let's go back to the
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Stargate program for a minute. How old were you Eric
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when you entered into that and were you were aware
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at the time what was happening or how did they disguise?
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Is that for you?
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It would be to my recollection that I was. I
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was always in it, so you know I did. I
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did kindergarten through eighth grade in in a grammar school,
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and then I did ninth through twelfth in high school
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Catholic school. So I always remember being brought out for
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and I can't remember what the actual title was, the
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Tag program, the Gate program, so whether it was talented
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and gifted, gifted and talented, they're so close to each other,
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and I've heard the terms so many times since then.
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It was it was one of those labels. But effectively
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we would get brought out of the regular classroom activities
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and brought into the library at my school. The curtains
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would be drawn shut, which was you know, never the
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case unless we were there for that activity. And at
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the time, like I mean, you know, folks have to
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appreciate I was being lied to as a child. So
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in this like when I went to the library, I
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just learned rapidly that I don't know, if you're familiar
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with Superman and Bizarro, Bizarrow was like the alternate of Superman.
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So they had like Bizarro and Bizarro world, So that
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fit in my head, Like I when I went to
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the library, I just considered it like Bizarro world, where
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things are like backwards and don't make sense, like there's
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no rhyme or reason. I was in a very like
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old school regiment and Catholic school, like there's right and
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there's wrong, and when there's wrong, you get pummeled. So
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in the library, it was not that. In the library,
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it was they would ask you a question and then
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follow it with like, don't think about it too much,
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just give us an answer. Whatever you say is right,
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which broke all logic and reason from everything outside of
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the library, Like what do you mean anything I say
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is right? So like that was one of the things
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that struck me as so peculiar, because I looked at
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the p people asking me the questions and was like,
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you're out of your mind. You're an adult. I'm eight
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and you're asking me questions and telling me, would you
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know whatever you say is right?
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How many other kids were in that program with you?
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Eric, I'm trying to picture out the like, So the
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way I remember it was that we each sat at
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a table with an attendant, and I'm trying to think
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of the amount of tables in there. So my guestimate
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it would be that there was probably eight to twelve
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kids in total that were in the room, but we
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were cordoned off with a separate attendant, each at a
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table individually. Wow.
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Do you think that these programs and I know they
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were going on across the country. I don't know how
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old you are, and I'm not going to pinpoint you
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on that. What years worth these we you can give
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us a decade? Was this the eighties? Nineties?
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This was the early eighties that it started from?
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It eighties? Okay, so a little bit after the program
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I was put in, which was for migren headaches or
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you know, learning disabilities and all that stuff. Different programs,
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And I'm just saying that I think these must have
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been going on across the country, And I'm wondering, do
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you think these programs are part of why we're not
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having disclosure.
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I do from my research and and and documented evidence,
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a lot of the people that are in the disclosure
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conversation contemporarily that are being put on pedestals, their names
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are in the paperwork. Their names are there. So you
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have folks like how put Off Russell, targ Jack Sarfadi,
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Ezach Bentavel, He's passed away. So I mean, these are
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these people. It's SRI. I was the outfit Stanford Research
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Institute that was getting all of these contracts, and all
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of these people were working as contractors and getting paid
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to be in these programs. And this documentation right in
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the archives of my website that states very clearly how
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they were experimenting on children. I keep saying it. Yeah,
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it begs the question, to what extent were you experimenting
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on children? Why is no one, you know, discussing this stuff.
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Why is no one asking people these questions of you know,
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how were you involved, who else was involved? What were
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you doing to these kids? What was the reason that
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you were doing it to these kids? How come these
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kids parents didn't know what you were doing to these kids?
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Better question, isn't it what were they? Well? I think
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it was the great why right. I mean, not that
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you were gifted and talented. I'm sure you are, but
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I mean whether it's on the ADHD side, learning disability side,
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or the gifted and talent side. They used these excuses too.
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I know there was like the minuance to the Stargate program,
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the Gateway program, Manager Foundation and other grants and things,
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and I'm wondering, like you mentioned how put Off and
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Russell Targan all this thing. So they I think had
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a carryosity city because children are not tainted, and I
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think they're closer to you know, the paranormal gifts, the
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side gifts. We're seeing a lot of that right now
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with the side games, and you know the telepathy tapes
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and you know nonverbal kids communicating telepathically. And I'm sure
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you know since these programs began, they had to have
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had an interest in children. Yet if you google it,
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they deny it, although there's documents in certain videos you
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can find that say otherwise. So I'm really happy, Eric
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that you're speaking out about that because I do believe
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this has effect that thousands of children across the nation,
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and that it needs to be exposed, and I hope
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more people come clean or not even become clean, but
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are rave enough to talk about it. And for years
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I would I would assume that most children that were
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put in these programs, like you said, their parents were unaware.
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The kids were unaware, and it has to be something
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that kind of triggers like, wait, wait a minute, that
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really wasn't all that normal. So were they when they
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like certain subjects like science or math or do you
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have any memories like that? Were you working with blocks
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or gas?
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They weren't teaching us anything that had to do with
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our standard curriculum. It was completely outside of that. They weren't.
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at those ages, but they weren't bringing us in there
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to give us higher level math. I was already I
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was already doing that in my regular class work. Like
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so technically, my school wanted to advance me into a
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higher level year. You know, if I was in third grade,
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they wanted me to be in fifth grade. My mother
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refused that she thought it would cause me social problems.
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I was already doing advanced stuff. So if I was
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in third grade, I was already crushing the third grade
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curriculum to the point that I would have everything completed,
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and the teachers had more issues with me being disruptive
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because I was done and board. So what wound up
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happening was that that teachers from the higher grade levels
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would come in to my third grade classroom as an example,
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and they would be giving me assignments that the fifth
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graders were working on. To fill my time, I would
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have to. I would do the advanced level curriculum that
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was already going on in the classroom. I didn't even
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need to be pulled out of the library for that.
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I was already doing multiple grades worth of work in
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my class. So when we got to the library, what
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I now know in hindsight, because again like I said earlier,
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they were lying to me. I didn't know what was
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going on. It didn't make sense. But since then, having
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done the research, I now know what was going on
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was the Monroe Institute protocols for a remote viewing session,
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and I nailed it. One time I saw there was
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someone by the name of Major Ed Dames who was
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very big in the Stargate program, remote viewing protocols, all
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that stuff, and I came across a video where he
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was actually engaging his own son going through the process
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to give an example of how it worked. And when
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I saw this video, Katie, like my jaw hit the
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floor because I was like, that is exactly what we
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were doing in the library, but they weren't telling us
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so effectively. Like they would give you a piece of
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paper and they would tell you to scribble on the paper.
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I now know that's called an idiogram, and then they
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would start to ask you questions and what you do
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is you would then take your writing implement I forget
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if it was a pen or pencil, and then they
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would ask you a question and tell you to touch
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the pencil to the line while answering the question, like
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while answering the question. And this is when they would
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say to you, like just answer quickly. You know anything
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that you say is right, which as a child, when
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they were being deceptive, that made no sense because they
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weren't explaining, you're doing a protocol, you're remote viewing, like
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they weren't telling us that, so I just did what
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I was told. It made no sense. But now in hindsight,
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I can do research as an adult and find out, oh,
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this is a very specific process they're trying to gain
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information from the ether, so to say, you know, it's
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a studying consciousness. It's getting information without without it coming
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through any of our known five senses. Yeah, I was
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telling me this is a kid. They were just they
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just wanted me to do the task and get them
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the answer, right.
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I mean, it makes sense to me that who you
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are now and what you've been able to uncover and
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the curiosity you have and the ability to see the
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whole table to make these connections probably comes from that
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early training. So that all makes good sense to me
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because of course with them in Row institution and that
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they can keep you in that data state. And if
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you had training early on, Eric, that would totally make
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sense to why you're connecting these dots now. So let's
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kind of get into that right now. I'm going to
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bring up a picture here. Let me put us on
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the side here hopefully I don't know if this cover
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us or not, but talk about where he went inwardnesses,
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and a little bit about just the continent itself.
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You got it, so that is the greater Antarctic continent.
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Why my computer is making so much noise? I flew
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in from New Zealand from christ Church, New Zealand into
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what you see McMurdo Station there down on the coast
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of Antarctica. And then from McMurdo Station, I flew to
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the Adminston Scott South Pole Station, where I basically stayed
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for three hundred and sixty six days straight before exiting
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back towards McMurdo and out through christ Church again.
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And how cold does it get there?
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How the coldest that I ever experienced was minus one
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hundred and three point four degrees ambient.
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Oh my goodness.
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I became a member of the three hundred club, so
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that's it's a very prestigious club with very few members.
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When the temperature gets down to minus one hundred degrees,
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you know, the weatherman knows that it's coming and they
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make an announcement so that we can prep. On the
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first floor of the facility, there is actually a sauna,
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and when they know that it's going to get that cold,
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they make the announcement. They get the entire medical crew ready,
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and the people that are bold enough to engage the experience.
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We all pile into the sauna with just a towel
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and our boots on and we wait in there so
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the sauna we fire. The rules are that you have
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to fire the sawn up to two hundred degrees. Being
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the nerds that we were, we fired it up to
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two fourteen. So when the weatherman calls on the LMR
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radio and says that we've hit minus one hundred, then
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everybody runs out the sauna, exits the facility while dropping
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your towel inside, so you just have on your boots
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and your birthday suit and then you bid run around
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the geographic south pole and then back into the building.
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So you're exposing your body to a three hundred degree
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temperature difference, like almost instantaneously. And we bumped it to
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the two fourteen, so it was officially a three fourteen
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temperature difference because we were going for that pie number
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three point one four, so we bumped it up a
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little bit. So not only did I experience the coldest
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temperature of minus one oh three point four, but I
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did it in my birthday suit.
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Oh oh my goodness. I mean you can't, okay, So
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you're telling me that you can go outside when it's
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that called Yes, yes you can, okay. That that blows
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my mind.
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When when you're in the sauna, you get covered with sweat, right,
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and when you go outside, the environment at the south
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Pole is is literally zero percent humidity.
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Okay, so there's there's a peculiar aspect of science that occurs.
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When you exit the door, you're soaking wet with sweat
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and a zero percent humidity. It's really cool, Katie. You
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literally can see every pore in your body jet hitting gases. Wow. Literally,
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so if you stay still, you just start creating your
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own cloud. And when you start running, you're like a locomotive,
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like you're you're literally have exhaust gas trail behind you
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that you're emitting.
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Wow.
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And it makes a buffer zone actually, so you're gassing
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so much that there's like velocity and and and hermal
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mass ejecting from you. That's like a buffer to keep
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the cold away from you, so you don't actually really
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feel it at first, excuse me. And it was funny
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because on the day that we did this, a coworker
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of mine, we were the first two people when they
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announced it that were like, let's just do it. So
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we charged out. Other people stayed in the in the
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sauna and were like, like, I guess getting more prepped.
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So my coworker and I we went out, we ran
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around the South Pole. Our off gassing was dwindling, so
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we were absolutely starting to feel the cold. And just
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as we made it back to the elevated station at
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the ground level entry door, we were like like we
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were ready to get inside, like we were feeling it.
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It was like, oh my god, we need to get
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back inside. And as soon as we went to go
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grab the door handle to go in, all of a
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sudden the door swings open and all the people that
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are completely toasty warms start running out black our path
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and we're like, get the hell out of the like,
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hurry up, Oh my god, get out of our way.
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We're dying.
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I mean, does this feel isolating out there for you?
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Do they do psychological testing and things like that?
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I mean, do people a man of psychological testing to
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qualify to winter at the Pole?
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Doctor Nicoletti, who was, I believe at the time, the
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head psychiatrist of the Los Angeles Police Department and the
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Denver Broncos So he's, you know, world renowned psychologist. He
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was in charge of the psychological evaluations for South Pole
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winter rovers. I had multiple tests before I went down
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to the ice, and then even after my summer season.
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Before we engaged the winter season, he actually came down
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to the ice to give us individual tests and questions
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and stuff to make sure that we were psychologically competent
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and prepared for the mission of wintering South Pole. And
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you asked before if it's isolating, it's the most isolating
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thing that you can get involved with on this planet.
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That I would say, yeah, imagine an astronaut.
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You're not going to find as much isolation home. Every
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time that picture goes up, I just like it blows
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my mind.
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Well, tell us about this a little bit. What is this?
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So that's that's the elevated station. When I was there,
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it transitioned from construction to operations and maintenance. I was
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part of the first crew to function it in the
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operations and maintenance capacity, basically running it through the motions
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to make sure that it was constructed properly. What you're
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looking at that staircase there is known as DA Destination Alpha.
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It's this skiway side. So looking at this picture to
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the right would be the skiway where the planes would
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arrive and depart, and personnel arriving this would be basically
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the first door that they would walk in would be
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the first floor of that staircase there. The second floor
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of that staircase, the windows up top side would be
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the observation area for flight following and people observing the
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flight line. And then yeah, actually looking at that picture,
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there's a lot of activity going on that I almost
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wonder if that's from my season. Now, the back staircase
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isn't done yet, so there's a staircase to the back
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right that's not complete. So this picture from in flights.
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Many flights going on out.
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Of there during the summer season. There's twenty four hour
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operations for flights during the winter season, is none Okay?
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Interesting? All right, Now let's get into it, shall we
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folks talk about what this is at the ice cued lab.
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Okay, So the big picture there showing the depth and
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the strings, and the yellow and the red line that
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would be sub subterranean in the ice and the little
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black square that they blow up to bring the picture
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up top, that's the ice cube laboratory. And in that
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white square up top where the ice cube lab is
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in the middle, all those dots in the shape of
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a hexagram are all the different strings that go down.
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And then then the pictures on the right you'll see
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that round object that looks like about the size of
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a basketball that has a steel ring band around the middle.
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That's called a dome. There are five thousand they go
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and that's the last dom ever inserted in the ice,
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hence all the signatures. There are five thousand, one hundred
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and sixty of those domes embedded in the ice, which
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is effectively the ice cube neutrino detector.
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And what is the story, we're told, what are the
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green here? What is this supposed to do? For just
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the layman is a.
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Great picture for it. So you see the the yellow
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and the red lines there. So basically, the concept is
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that neutrinos, which there are trillions of them, they're they're
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almost massless, they're super small. Uh, A neutrino can pass
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through an atom in between it's you know, electron shell
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and the nucleus and not hitting anything most of the time.
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But at the neutrino array, what you're seeing there is
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like the pathway of a neutrino entering the array and
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then in the you know, in the network of those domes,
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they're they're optical modules. What they're looking for is when
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a neutrino actually does impact the nucleus of a water molecule,
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albeit frozen in ice form. When that impact occurs, the
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neutrino and the nucleus are destroyed. A muon, which is
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now a new particle that's manufactured from that engagement, is ejected,
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and then there's also a blue flash of light known
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as Sharon Coough radiation, and that's effectively what the doms
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are trying to identify as the flash of light. And then,
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because of how you know, the doms in different relationship
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to each other will register a different amount of lights.
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It's then calculated that they can get a trajectory from
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whence the neutrino came. And then that's the concept of
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what they're telling us is the purpose of it scientifically,
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and then they'll they'll take those the triangulated direction from
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whence it came, and then they will shoot that information out.
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What they would tell us is to you know, many
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other telescopes around the world so that they can then
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try to direct their view to check to see, you know,
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what's going on where that neutrino apparently came from.
486
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Wow. Okay, now, Eric, let's get into what you witnessed
487
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out there and what you believe might be going on
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what you testified in Congress about in these gifts that
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you can lifely.
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Say what I what I found out is that each
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of the doms has the capacity to transmit at two
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thousand and forty seven vaults, So you multiply that by
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the five thousand and one hundred and sixty domes and
494
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effectively looking at the world's largest phased array transmitter. Unfortunately,
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what I had learned was that it was when when
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I was president, So not only did the elevated station
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go from construction to operations and maintenance, it was also
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that same season that the ice cube neutrino detector went
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into completion from construction, and also it was the first
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time that was being used actively. And what I had
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learned was that the firing up of the system and
502
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its transmit mode was responsible for the earthquakes that happened
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in christ Church, New Zealand in two thousand in February
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of two thousand and eleven, which for the most part
505
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decimated that city. I was actually told that it was
506
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like friendly fire, that it was accidental. That you know,
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just like you if you build a gun, you know
508
00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:23.839
you have to take it to the range you have
509
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to aim at at the bull's eye, pull the trigger
510
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and see how close you are to the mark, and
511
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then make corrections to be more precise. And it was
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in that capacity that I was told that it was
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a misfiring. I do believe that it might have been
514
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somebody trying to be more polite with the information, because
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since then I've come to believe that it was much
516
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less of an accident. I did have somebody send me
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information which was a wiki leaks link. I guess you
518
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would say where it was leaked email from none other
519
00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:07.400
than Hillary Clinton referencing said earthquakes in February of twenty
520
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and eleven in christ Church. And what was stated in
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her email And I'm paraphrasing a bit because I can't
522
00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:16.440
remember things verbatim, but she said something to the effect
523
00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:21.279
that she was happy that the earthquakes occurred and on cue.
524
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:25.319
Oh, well, that's kind of telling, isn't it. I mean,
525
00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:28.079
is this one thing? Is this? So is the ice
526
00:31:28.119 --> 00:31:32.440
cube lab? Is is it connected to what's going on
527
00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:37.799
with HARP? And I mean there has been so far.
528
00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:41.640
It's an extension of the technology. Okay, I would say
529
00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:43.640
that you know all of the things that Hart can
530
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:47.240
do for science, obviously you can do, but then it
531
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also has secondary and tertiary capacities which are very nefarious.
532
00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:56.680
I've often said that the ice CB petrino detector array
533
00:31:56.960 --> 00:31:59.720
is like harp on steroids because like and I've been
534
00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:02.000
to the call An, Alaska facility a couple of times.
535
00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:03.839
I've gotten as close as I can to the you know,
536
00:32:03.920 --> 00:32:08.119
secure gates, and that facility is on the surface of
537
00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:11.759
the Earth. So as a as it is a phased
538
00:32:11.839 --> 00:32:15.680
array transmitter, it only has the dimensions of length and width.
539
00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:19.200
It's a two dimensional transmitter that sits on the surface
540
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of the Earth, unlike the system at the South pul station,
541
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which now adds depth and a massive amount of it.
542
00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:31.039
So it's a third dimension to this phase array transmitter,
543
00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:34.680
which gives it a greater magnitude of capabilities.
544
00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:40.039
Okay, see you use the word phrase dearray and I've
545
00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:42.200
heard of this before. I've had people reach out to
546
00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:45.119
me on you know some of these high strangers ranches,
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00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:48.720
Rocky Mountain Ranch, can walk a ranch, all these places
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00:32:48.720 --> 00:32:53.319
that you know Reno government involvement was maybe something's hidden there,
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00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:58.200
and can you speak a little bit about maybe the
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potential of what a phase array would do, why it
551
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would be beneficial. Are we're shooting down looks with these things?
552
00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:07.240
What is a phase de ray? Are they hidden underground,
553
00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:10.799
across the country, across the wall? What do you know
554
00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:12.960
about that? Can can you kind of explain that a
555
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little bit?
556
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I think a phase array transmitter? How do I best
557
00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:20.599
put this? It's just it's more of a reference to
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the ability to, I guess, aim the transmission. So you know,
559
00:33:27.480 --> 00:33:30.680
people can think of a radar dish right like it
560
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can rotate, it could change its angle and stuff like that.
561
00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:39.039
So it gives you the ability to point it. The doms,
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which are embedded in the ice, they don't move. So
563
00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:48.359
by phasing the rays almost like by firing a certain
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amount at a certain time and another amount that And
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I mean these are probably like millisecond differences, like really
566
00:33:54.240 --> 00:34:01.799
minute amounts. But by the sequence of firing of the
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doms affords you the ability to aim the transmission moving outwards.
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Okay, got it? And and do you think so? My
569
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question then is if we have the capacity to manipulate
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and control earthquakes or even weather, And I'll ask you
571
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what you think about, like, you know, the what do
572
00:34:26.960 --> 00:34:30.800
they call it? The dusting with the airplane. Oh m trails,
573
00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:33.400
kim trails. If that's the real thing, We'll get into
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00:34:33.400 --> 00:34:35.800
that question in a minute. But if we is that,
575
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what if we, ever Heavens forbid, go into a World
576
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War three, it's going to be fought in a very
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different way. Does this all play a role into.
578
00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:49.119
That We're already it's already happening around us for a
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really long time. Like it's not if we get there,
580
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We're already there. All of these technologies have been hardly
581
00:34:55.320 --> 00:34:58.880
invested in on our being applied every day of our lives.
582
00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:03.880
Now we're we're in the throes of that. It's modern warfare,
583
00:35:03.960 --> 00:35:07.159
but the weapons of war are invisible. It's not people
584
00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:10.599
running around shooting guns in your proximity anymore, where you
585
00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:14.440
would hear the crack of the rifle and your neighbor
586
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:17.920
would have a bullet hole. So they're wounded. The walking
587
00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:22.960
wounded are are suffering ailments that people don't know the
588
00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:26.159
source of. They're being ignored and the firing of the
589
00:35:26.199 --> 00:35:28.119
weapon is now currently invisible.
590
00:35:29.320 --> 00:35:35.519
And who has control of this technology? I mean, is it?
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00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:41.559
Because when I went to both skiffs, that was the
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end result of the conversation is that everybody in the
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00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:51.000
room agreed and understood that apparently, whoever these factions are
594
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that are wielding these weapons are doing it without the
595
00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:59.639
oversight of the US government or other governments. These are
596
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now factions. The governments are not. The governments aren't the players.
597
00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:09.800
It's above that the governments are puppets. I would suggest
598
00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:12.239
that this is now. It just it's in the hands
599
00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:20.239
of what Eisenhower warned us about the military industrial corporation complexes. Right,
600
00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:23.000
if you had a tank building company and I had
601
00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:29.280
an airplane building company, we sell our products to the governments.
602
00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:33.880
They don't make stuff. They buy what we sell them. Katie,
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00:36:33.920 --> 00:36:35.920
if you and I are rich billionaires and we were
604
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manufacturing this equipment, wouldn't it be wise to make sure
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that we had better equipment than them?
606
00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:47.280
Right? It's interesting. We just recently Colorado Movement and had
607
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Ryan Wood speaking, of course, he's the son of Bob Wood,
608
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and you know he had mentioned, you know, Walking and
609
00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:58.760
Refion and Northern Grommen and these different aerospace companies competing
610
00:36:58.840 --> 00:37:03.000
with one another for technologies, And I never really thought
611
00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:06.159
of it that way before. For some ninety reason, I'm
612
00:37:06.159 --> 00:37:08.679
thinking of you're kind of work hand in hand. It's
613
00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:12.199
not that compartmental. They all work together us or you know,
614
00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:15.679
all that stuff to come to a common goal. But
615
00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:18.400
from what I'm understanding, that's not the case at all.
616
00:37:18.840 --> 00:37:23.000
And the normal waby dollar and power and control is
617
00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:26.840
what's that play here? So is that what we're finding too.
618
00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:30.840
You have these different whether it's aerospace companies or are
619
00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:34.159
they like you know, leading science companies, or do you
620
00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:36.239
think universities are involved as well?
621
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:41.039
The universities are absolutely involved. The academic arm that runs
622
00:37:41.079 --> 00:37:45.079
the ice cube neutrino detectors University of Wisconsin, Madison, which
623
00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:47.119
is where I got the documentation that proves that the
624
00:37:47.159 --> 00:37:51.760
stuff transmits. So absolutely, it's it's oh, what a terrible
625
00:37:51.800 --> 00:37:54.599
web we weave when first we set out to deceive.
626
00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:57.239
There's a lot of deception going on, and back to
627
00:37:57.280 --> 00:37:59.960
the whole idea of corporations, right, that's the that's what's
628
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:03.239
warring is going on. People are cognizant that, you know,
629
00:38:03.280 --> 00:38:06.599
there's espionage going on between nation states, but they don't
630
00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:10.679
want to believe that. You know, Raytheon and Lockheed Martin
631
00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:13.639
also have swat teams and espionage teams and if you're
632
00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:16.039
the president of one company, I'm the president of another company.
633
00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:18.920
We're at war with each other. We're at war with
634
00:38:18.960 --> 00:38:22.280
each other with the better product lines that we wield
635
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:26.760
that we haven't sold to the governments, because then you
636
00:38:26.840 --> 00:38:29.719
and I can kick each other's asses and all they
637
00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:31.159
can do is watch.
638
00:38:31.639 --> 00:38:34.199
Right, and then you throw in the different countries involved.
639
00:38:34.280 --> 00:38:37.559
I happened to meet a really high up in gene
640
00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:41.400
in General Electric, and you know, we've gone into this
641
00:38:41.480 --> 00:38:44.360
long conversation about the rock amount ranche, what we knew
642
00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:48.400
technologies back engineering. There was like an hour on conversation.
643
00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:50.920
They're like, do you want to know you know what
644
00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:54.920
was on Nancy Pelosi's laptop some of the back engineer
645
00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:57.880
stuff that General Electric that the Chinese would like to
646
00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:00.239
get their hands on. And I'm like, oh, oh, so
647
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:02.960
they have part of General electricum at the other part.
648
00:39:03.119 --> 00:39:05.039
And so you know, I never looked at it that
649
00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:08.320
way that there was this kind of secret kicking in.
650
00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:13.760
The technology that's publicly known is regulated, right, If it's
651
00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:16.599
not publicly known, it's unregulated, right.
652
00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:21.320
That's scary. So when you're in these gifts, is that
653
00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:25.519
a discussion that's being had right now? Like how to
654
00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:31.719
how to this? What is that word? Uh? I guess
655
00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:34.719
I don't like the word disclosure here, but some control
656
00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:39.920
on regulations, I guess on what's happening with some of
657
00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:41.440
these you know, how.
658
00:39:41.400 --> 00:39:43.360
Do we how do we gain how do we gain
659
00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:48.880
oversight over the rogue factions that are operating without regulation
660
00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:53.559
with monopolized technologies. I mean that that's where we are today.
661
00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:58.159
That's the discussion that's not happening while there's a mass
662
00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:01.519
counterintelligence operation going on to cover up the things that
663
00:40:01.559 --> 00:40:08.840
I'm suggesting with this unending argument about UFOs and space aliens,
664
00:40:08.840 --> 00:40:11.159
which I'm not opposed to, Like, I absolutely believe there's
665
00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:14.119
life in the cosmos and that you know, things come
666
00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:17.239
and go and visit. But what you cannot convince me
667
00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:20.840
of is that that is the majority of the activity
668
00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:24.039
that we're witnessing, right. I think the vast majority of
669
00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:28.639
the activity we're witnessing is simply man made, and the
670
00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:33.000
powers that be are taking advantage of the ignorance of
671
00:40:33.800 --> 00:40:39.480
humanity by laying it at the feet of UFOs or UAPs,
672
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and then they'll always say, oh, we don't have this technology.
673
00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:46.239
It's got to be it's got to be some crazy orful,
674
00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:51.480
they're just lying. They know we have the technology, they
675
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:53.079
absolutely know it.
676
00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:56.800
Right. Well, my question then, like, you know, it's one
677
00:40:56.840 --> 00:41:00.440
thing to have men and women who swear to our
678
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:04.159
military to you know, and not have the clearances to
679
00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:07.159
keep you know, they will lose their pensions, they will
680
00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:09.880
lose their credibility, they will lose a lot. They stand
681
00:41:09.920 --> 00:41:14.239
to lose a lot if they come forward with secrets. Okay,
682
00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:18.320
what is keeping scientists and people who just work for
683
00:41:18.480 --> 00:41:21.920
walking newt or do they have systems in place to
684
00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:24.000
keep them quiet? I mean, why are.
685
00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:27.599
They all of these all of these people in these conversations.
686
00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:30.679
So when I try to assess the value of somebody's information,
687
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:34.199
one of the first things I consider is like, how
688
00:41:34.239 --> 00:41:36.079
do they rate on a scale of one to ten
689
00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:43.000
on the compromisability scale? How compromisable is someone? How can
690
00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:45.800
be How can people be compromised? Right, if we just
691
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:48.480
start to simply put together a list, how how can
692
00:41:48.519 --> 00:41:52.159
you compromise someone with money? Threats?
693
00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:53.039
Right?
694
00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:57.079
So, if the person can be compromised by money, can
695
00:41:57.119 --> 00:42:02.880
be compromised by threats, they're probably compromised, which we're seeing
696
00:42:03.239 --> 00:42:08.360
in the UFO disclosure commodities circus. Right, They're literally bringing
697
00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:11.920
people in in front of politicians that are pretending to
698
00:42:11.960 --> 00:42:14.519
be operating in good faith. And every one of these
699
00:42:14.519 --> 00:42:18.320
people that they're bringing up is saying, uh, you know,
700
00:42:18.360 --> 00:42:22.039
I'm losing my job, I need money, we need help,
701
00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:24.679
we need the UAPDF fond and no body the way
702
00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:25.679
I'm getting threatened.
703
00:42:26.199 --> 00:42:26.480
Cool.
704
00:42:26.599 --> 00:42:30.159
So you just expressed to everybody that you're completely compromisable.
705
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M hm.
706
00:42:32.239 --> 00:42:34.920
That's all I'm hearing from all of these whistleblowers is
707
00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:39.800
I need more money and I'm scared boom. They're they're
708
00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:44.239
scoring really high on that compromisability chart, right.
709
00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:46.840
But I mean even if they passed a lot of
710
00:42:47.239 --> 00:42:49.599
protections into place, like we want to do for our
711
00:42:49.639 --> 00:42:53.360
pirates and our you know, whistle blowers that come forward
712
00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:57.880
in the military, and that is ultimately might not protect them.
713
00:42:58.280 --> 00:43:01.840
Have people. Do you are that people have lost their
714
00:43:01.960 --> 00:43:04.639
lives studenting with some of these technologies.
715
00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:07.519
I'm sure that they have, But that threat actually seems
716
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:10.199
to have dissipated because things are too public now and
717
00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:13.920
can and be traced back to stuff. One of the
718
00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:16.920
things that's very important for people to realize too, is
719
00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:21.960
that all of these people that are compromised. I'm trying
720
00:43:21.960 --> 00:43:24.360
to think of how to say this politely. I will
721
00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:29.159
say that they're less bold of action because they're compromised,
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when in reality, they have nothing to fear because none
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of the nda is that they signed or any of
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these things put them in harm's way if it turns
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out that the operation that they're involved with is illegal.
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So again, if these factions are operating with monopolized technology,
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they're completely rogue and there's no oversight that's illegal. So
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these people are under no obligation to keep their mouths shut.
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They should be screaming from the mountaintops that I was
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involved with and Aanagan's this shouldn't be going on. Where
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are the women that are going to do the right
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thing exclusively for it being the right thing, not for
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monetary renumeration, not for some protection for the rest of
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their life. I am very critical of veterans people in
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the military, right. I don't lay this. I don't lay
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the responsibility the citizens that are involved, because they didn't
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take an oath military did. They took an oath against
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all enemies, foreign and domestic, and they offered their life
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on the line. They they that's what's going on. So
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if these people say I'm afraid that that doesn't make
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sense to me. If you're willing to join the military
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and put your life on the line, that obligation never right.
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This kind of reminds me Eric. I didn't watch the
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whole thing, but I caught a little bit of a
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recent Jeroban episode where he was interviewing and I don't
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part of me, but I don't remember the gentleman's name.
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But he had morals and he learned of a torture
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program and did not want to be involved with illegally torturing,
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torturing people in horrific ways, like I mean just listening
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to some of these things, you know, being changed to
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the ceiling and being kept awake for multiple days on end,
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and just horrible torture.
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And he did Ganda.
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I don't know, but he but he was. I mean,
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like they came after him, not not with you know,
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threats and all that, but with prison time, and you
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had to fight the good fight. And I mean we
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were talking like forty years in prison. This man faced
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Jill's for helving morals and Jills for not wanting to
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be part of a torture program. So maybe, just maybe
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these scientists where men and women that are part of
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these programs could be threatened with similar types of things.
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I don't know absolutely they're being compromised. This is Katie, This,
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what we're dealing with in adulthood is no different than
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what we dealt with in childhood. Right. If a bully
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steps up to you in the schoolyard and bullies you,
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and you succumb to their bullying, you're a coward and
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the bully wins. So and as adults, the environment slightly changed,
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but the activity is the same. If every single time
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a bully shows up and people acquiesce, then the bullies win.
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That's not how we're raised. That's not the way we
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raise children, or I should say it's not the way
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we used to raise children. But all too often, as
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of recent you know, we've we've we've reprimanded the child
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that is the victim and not the one that's in
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being the bully. So this is this is a rep
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what we sow aspect of society. When I was a kid,
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I always taught that if a bully steps up to
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in the schoolyard and threatens you, you punch them in
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the face. Yeah, you don't go. You don't waste time
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going getting the teacher. You deal with it. Otherwise, the
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bully owns your ass and will always bully you. So
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I'm sorry. These people are by definition cowards. If a
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bully bullies you and you give in, you're a coward.
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Yeah, Eric, I mean, have you personally you had to
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face any you know, balloons or stand up to try
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to put you up about you.
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I've been threatened with violence. I've actually been assaulted. When
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I went to the event in Washington, d C. In
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June of twenty three, there was a couple other whistleblowers
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that caught the tail end of it, Michael Herrera, d
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c Long, Stephen Digner. They were present by former crew
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member that came with me into the skiffs witnessed it also. So,
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I mean I didn't back down and I didn't lose.
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That's you know, that's called not being a coward. I've
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had family members threatened with violence. It's just like you
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just can't ever acquiesce. That's and what people will learn,
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which is what we learned in the school Yard's children,
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is that if you simply don't give into the bully,
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the bully actually has no power. Yeah, frustrated with these
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whistleblowers that are all like I don't want to say
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anything because I'm scared, and it's like, well, you know,
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and then the bully wins and we lose.
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We lost Derek everybody, hopefully he'll be back here. You're black,
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I'm here the bullying right now.
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Yeah. Your you froze up for a second on your
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video screen. But I heard you the whole time.
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We hear weather, which is interesting. I didn't. I don't know.
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You're in Tesla's lightning land.
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Well we are, We're right there in the heart of it. Yeah.
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So yeah, speaking of Tesla way, I mean, I can't
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believe this hour is almost gone already. We're down to
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about ten minutes here. But a couple of things. Let's
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talk about Technlo Tesla technology. I mean, do you think
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this is all connected with that?
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Oh? Absolutely, This is just a It's a high level
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of technology that was occulted away back in the day
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of Tesla. And this is why I use the term
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monopolized technology. It's not that this stuff doesn't exist, it's
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just that it doesn't exist for the most of us.
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There's other great researchers out there that refer to it
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as like a breakaway civilization. So it's just the higher
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level rich people have been wielding these technologies for their
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benefit against us.
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Right, And I don't want to write down any political
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lanes here. It's not a lot on my channel.
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I just don't. It's a sign from all political lines.
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But John, I mean, I think it's interesting though, that
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was it. President Trump's uncle was the one that got
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access to the Tesla files. I just think it's interesting
831
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that that's kind of connected there, and maybe they're.
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Super interesting and politics aside, Like if we just deal
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with these as human beings, it's a very interesting connection
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the line of information going through these human beings and
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the positions that people are in contemporarily. Yeah, politics is
836
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a con job. I've always said that, you know, the
837
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purpose of politics is to get one hundred percent of
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the people to focus on fifty percent of the problem.
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Yeah.
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Right. If I'm a Democrat and you're a Republican, then
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I'm going to say your side sucks, and you're going
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to say my side sucks, and then the people that
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are up top win because they got one hundred percent
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of the people to focus on just fifty percent of
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the problem.
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Yeah, I agreed, I agree, I yeah. I think we
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all have more in common than we don't, and they
848
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just like to keep us divided and fearful and that's
849
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how they keep the control and power. And I think
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what you're doing is very brave speaking out. And what
851
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can all the rest of us do? What is your advice?
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I mean, you know, for somebody like me who doesn't
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understand the science, but I understand that there's something going
854
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on that has no accountability and there should be accountability.
855
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What can we do to kind of get the word out,
856
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like we want some accountability for these technologies because I
857
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don't want some dang, small little corporation blowing up the world.
858
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I think we should stop focusing on any belief that
859
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the government is the door we should be knocking on.
860
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They are completely part of the cover up and they
861
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are pawns to the higher level players in the game,
862
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which is the corporations, because they're the ones that are
863
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rogue without oversight and monopolizing the technology. If we the
864
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people read direct our efforts and energies at the corporations
865
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knock on that door, that's where the truth is at. Right.
866
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So it's like a football game, right, skates, It's like
867
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a football game. Right. You have the lineman, right, The
868
00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:19.440
linemen are just blockers for the quarterback. You're not really
869
00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:25.199
focused on getting the linement. You're focused on the quarterback.
870
00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:28.840
That's the mission is to get to the actual source
871
00:52:29.000 --> 00:52:33.880
the goal. But the government is just the blockers. And
872
00:52:33.920 --> 00:52:36.880
if we just keep engaging the blockers, that the quarterback
873
00:52:36.960 --> 00:52:38.159
have just run into the end zone.
874
00:52:39.039 --> 00:52:42.400
Right, So can you write letters to a congressman? Can
875
00:52:42.440 --> 00:52:43.400
we just.
876
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Stem everything that anybody can think of? They should do everything.
877
00:52:49.639 --> 00:52:52.159
They should be putting up signs. They should be picketing
878
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:54.880
in front of Raytheon and Lockheed and saying, give us
879
00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:59.280
the truth you have it. We should be boycotting their products.
880
00:53:00.119 --> 00:53:03.440
Everything that could be done. We should be writing letters
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to the people on the boards, people you know, high
882
00:53:07.079 --> 00:53:11.719
high stakes and stockholders. We should, you know, go after
883
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companies that are running their ads and say, will no
884
00:53:14.639 --> 00:53:17.400
longer buy your products if you're running their ads. Everything
885
00:53:17.480 --> 00:53:22.559
that we can do to negatively impact their bottom line.
886
00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:25.840
Yeah, Because I mean, if we had Tesla technology, I'm
887
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certain we have the capability for everybody to have free powers.
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All that stuff doctor a component of that and they
889
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are just keeping it from us.
890
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And here's a really easy one for everybody to wrap
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their head around. Right, Katie, you travel, right, So you know, Hey,
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if I want to go do an event somewhere like
893
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let's say China, right, it's x amount of miles x
894
00:53:51.119 --> 00:53:53.239
amount of hours of your life that you have to
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invest to get there and back. Right. Did you know
896
00:53:56.119 --> 00:54:01.480
the FAA. The FAA regulates the maximum amount of speed
897
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that a commercial plane is allowed to fly. So therefore,
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the manufacturers don't build things faster than that. Okay, that
899
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doesn't mean that a plane can't travel. Like, let's just
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let's just say, for argument's sake, commercial flights could travel
901
00:54:16.559 --> 00:54:19.239
let's just say thousand miles an hour. Well, that's because
902
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it's regulated to that, and the manufacturers build to the regulation.
903
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What if technology allows for three thousand miles an hour? Right,
904
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So why do we have this regulation that limits you
905
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as a human being, regulates how fast you're allowed to
906
00:54:38.800 --> 00:54:41.679
move around this planet? I would say you've been wronged.
907
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I believe that there are technologies that exist if the
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regulations didn't prohibit that your flight to China should only
909
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take an hour?
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Yeah, I wouldn't that be wonderful, And wouldn't.
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It be wonderful if you were allowed to receive the
912
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benefit of all of the moneies that you've invested as
913
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a taxpayer that have gone into the research and development
914
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of the technologies that you're not allowed to use. I
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would say you are now suffering under the rogue agencies
916
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that have monopolized the technology, because I would suggest that
917
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there are people on this planet that do have access
918
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to these technologies, that are using them with great regularity,
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and then when they get caught with their pants down,
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they run up a story about UFOs. They go, oh,
921
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that's not ours, we don't have that technology up. Now
922
00:55:36.440 --> 00:55:42.199
you froze up and I don't hear you. They got
923
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mad when I said to protest against the corporations and
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hit their bottom line. Can you hear me now, Katie?
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Oh boy, aren't technical difficulties fun? Oh there we're back,
926
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all right, there we go.
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Yeah, we have a massive strong right now speaking of
928
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But let's talk about deciphering and TV and what can
929
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be found there. I know people can go and find
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all information about Eric here, tell us what they can
931
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find on your site.
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Eric. Yep, So deciphering dot TV is a is a
933
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platform that I started a few years back. It's where
934
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I try to put all of my information and interviews
935
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and stuff. You'll see that there's a forum up there
936
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for folks to engage. There's also an archives section so
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that a lot of the documentation that I come across
938
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I put there for people. If they just simply want
939
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to view it, they can, or they can download it
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and have a copy for themselves.
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Said, that's cool that you can down Yep.
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It's downloadable. I'm actually growing the site. I'm going to
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be bringing more folks on into the team or the
944
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content creators and researchers that I've been working with in
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the community, so that you know, we can operate outside
946
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of the management of the social media platforms and the
947
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algorithms and the censorship, so that you know, we the
948
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people can have a presence in the media to say
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that is not controlled. And another thing that I always
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try to recommend to folks, you know, like you asked earlier,
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you know, what can we do to change things for
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the future and help our children out is contemporarily, we
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need to become unmanageable right now, which is we're very managed.
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You know, our daday lives. Every aspect of everything that
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we do is hardly influenced by other people, so become unmanageable.
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And then people say, well, how do I do that?
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And there's a very easy thing that everybody can start doing.
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Start paying cash everywhere you go, Right, do you.
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Think you know? The COVID nineteen was kind of to
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see how far they can to push us all howsot
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how much they can control us?
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Absolutely one thousand percent, yep. They wanted to see how
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much we can make these people dance to the tune
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that we play.
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Yeah, and what do you think would happen? If that happened,
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you know again, like next year, then everybody.
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Would bend over and take it again, because it was
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a perfect example of how everybody got perfectly managed. Right
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if at the time the COVID stuff got rolled out,
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if everybody just simply refused to be managed by the
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regulations that were forced upon us, it wouldn't have occurred.
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I forget if it was Sweden or Norway, which the
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United States didn't get the news at the time, but
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while we were all suffering under you know, you know,
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Nazi type regulations and Gestapo type stuff. I again, I
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forget if it was Noria, Sweden. But they started what
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was called the pots and pans movement. So when they
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were told to, you know, follow the rules, they laughed.
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They said no. Everyone simply stayed home and banged on
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pots and pans and told all of their politicians, guess what,
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we're not doing anything. Yeah, we're just They just stopped
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doing anything. They didn't go to work, they did nothing
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except the unmanageable say we're not listening until you guys
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cut the bs, and that's it. You're not in charge.
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We're not doing what you say. And that's all everyone
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had to do is just don't do it. But because
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people were compromisable, right that, people's jobs were threatened on
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so many levels. You can't this, you can't that if
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you don't listen to us, and everybody's compromisability was heartily
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on display.
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Right, we all can be brave and stop living in fear.
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And I think that, you know, that's a good way
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to end the podcast. Eric, You know, thank you, thank
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you for being fearless and speaking out about what you
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you know feel is going on out there and trying
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to bring in bring it to all of us so
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we can sort of catch up and go, hey, what
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the heck's going on. I can't thank you enough for
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being here on the Trifecta, and I hope to see
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you again next year out there in the San Luis
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Valley or if not, we'll see you somewhere else, I'm sure.
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And I hope everybody out there has a fantastic recie
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a week and be sure to check out Decipher and
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TV and Eric's work. And I thank you all for
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being here and I hope you have a great reciv
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a week. Everybody. Thank you. Good night, Tap tap ta
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Well, hello everybody. You are listening to the Trifecta where UFOs,
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the Paranormal Encryptids Collide, the official podcast of Rocky Mountain
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Ranch Research. I am your host, Katie Page, and do
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they have a treat for you tonight? We have good
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friend Eric Hecker. And Eric spent time at in Antarctica
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and discovered some things, and he has been blowing the
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whistle on some of his discoveries and I'm looking forward
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to diving deep into what he's discovered. But before we
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do a few quick reminders, I hope that all of
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you out there are having a fantastic beginning of your
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week and that you're having more wonder than worry. It's
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crazy times out there, and I hope you're all hanging
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in there. I'm happy that you're here with us today,
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and whether it's morning, afternoon, or night, I hope it's
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been a good one. Also, I'm gonna ditch the three
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questions things. I'm not going to be doing that. You know,
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nobody's been sending in their answers, so we're not going
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to be doing that anymore. But instead, if you are
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interested in extra content, you can always go to Rocky
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Mountain Ranch Research with Katie Page. We do have a Patreon,
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so please check that out and be sure to check
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out our website as well, Rocky Mountain Ranch Research for
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updates and all the things that are going on with us. Also,
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if you have questions for Eric tonight, please be sure
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to write your questions in all uppercase it lets us
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know that that is a question. So, without further ado,
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let's please welcome Eric Hecker to the show. We add
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him in here. There you are, How you.
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Doing, Eric, I'm doing fantastic, Katie. I'm really excited about
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being here today. Thank you for for having me.
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Of course, you know, we've got to meet a couple
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of times in person out there in the San Luis
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Valley and gotten to know you, and I find your
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work not only brave and daring, but fascinating. And some
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of these things, you know, like weather manipulation and harp
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and things like that, truly interesting, truly interesting. But before
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we get dived deep into all of that, I would
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just love to get a little background, you know, on
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you know, your life, where you were born, where you
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were raised, if you had anything happen to you when
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you were younger, and how you ended up where you
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were to day. Hello wizard Lady, thanks for being here tonight.
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Hey wizardly, that's a that's a very fair question. I've
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walked a very peculiar path. It's the reason when I
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first went public on YouTube, initially I went under the
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moniker of deciphering my experience because I did have things
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happen from where I was born up until now. Contemporarily,
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I was born in Bethpage, Long Island, which is the
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hom of Grummin and the Lunar module, and I was involved, unfortunately,
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with what we now refer to just commonly as the
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Stargate program, which was you know, had many hands in
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it through the years, CIA, DA Army, a whole bunch
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of different folks, and for all practical purposes, they were
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working with children and going through the Monroe Institute remote
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viewing protocols, and unfortunately it seems like they were administering
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drugs without my parents' knowledge. It seems like there was
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some mk ultra type abuse, which is super unfortunate, but
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that was where my paths started. I eventually wound up
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having a short stint in the United States Submarine Service,
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which was super eye opening and one of the more
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peculiar aspects of my life. From there, I got a
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career as a plumber in the Greater Long Island area,
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specifically for peculiarity. The north shore of Long Island is
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referred to as the Gold Coast, and the reason being
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is there's a lot of affluence there that is at
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a level that most people don't know. I worked in
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a lot of the military industrial complex corporation facilities in
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the Greater Long Island area, companies like AI L, t RW, Grumming,
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SAI C SO, all of the nefarious companies, and I
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worked at the homes of the owners Paul Corporation, Doctor Paul.
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Doctor Paul was a customer of mine that I you know,
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met him face to face. His facilities were very peculiar.
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The greater Rosalind area in Long Island. I would say,
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you know, if people study the history of our nation,
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George Washington's espionage ring started in Nassau County, Long Island,
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That's where our nation started. That's where the divide between
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the loyalists and the patriots were. So I've been doing
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research with folks and putting out information that shows that
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you know, Rosalind, Long Island is the birthplace of American
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espionage and it's never left. I also worked at the
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homes of you know, former Director Central of Intelligence, and
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their homes are in the Roslyn area. So I went
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from having this career where I became an exceptional plumber
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and had a history with these organizations, and eventually I
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gleaned a contract to go work at the South Paul
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Station in Antarctica, where I wound up working from November
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of twenty ten until November of twenty eleven. Certainly there
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was pros and cons to that employment, but what wound
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up happening from my experience there and then continued research
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into the peculiarity and then you know, communicating with former
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crew members and other researchers, I discovered that what was
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really going on under the false pretenses of scientific experimentation,
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that there are three directed energy weapons systems that are
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functioning there. And in June of twenty twenty three, I
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actually went to Washington, D C. And I testified in
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two separate skiffs secret compartmented information facilities. One was for
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the Senate Intelligence Committee and that one was led by
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none other than Kirk McConnell. And then I also testified
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in a skiff for Arrow a ro o, and I
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can't state who I communicated with in that engagement, but
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I am, you know, under no other obligations, and I
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can discuss everything that occurred. I am not under restrictions
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of NDAs other than not giving the names and addresses
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of the Arrow folks. So I'm open to any questions
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that you have, and I'm going to do my best
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to you know, answer and and let everybody know what's
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really going on because I'm trying to decipher my experience
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in real time with everyone.
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Yeah, well, before we get to that, I kind of
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want to backtrack a little bit. First of all, how
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amazing is it? And it kind of reminded me of
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the movie The Breakfast Club. You know, I'm the eyes
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and ears of this institution. So here you are an
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important people's homes as a plumber, and I can't help
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but imagine and maybe this is just me, and I
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mean not that I'm mosy or anything, but you can't
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help but kind of look around and poke around and
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be able to hear some things that you're kind of like,
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that's weird. What did I just hear? So I can
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imagine that must have happened for your movie started building
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your curiosity. But before we get to what you discovered
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an antartica and all that, let's go back to the
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Stargate program for a minute. How old were you Eric
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when you entered into that and were you were aware
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at the time what was happening or how did they disguise?
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Is that for you?
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It would be to my recollection that I was. I
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was always in it, so you know I did. I
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did kindergarten through eighth grade in in a grammar school,
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and then I did ninth through twelfth in high school
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Catholic school. So I always remember being brought out for
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and I can't remember what the actual title was, the
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Tag program, the Gate program, so whether it was talented
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and gifted, gifted and talented, they're so close to each other,
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and I've heard the terms so many times since then.
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It was it was one of those labels. But effectively
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we would get brought out of the regular classroom activities
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and brought into the library at my school. The curtains
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would be drawn shut, which was you know, never the
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case unless we were there for that activity. And at
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the time, like I mean, you know, folks have to
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appreciate I was being lied to as a child. So
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in this like when I went to the library, I
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just learned rapidly that I don't know, if you're familiar
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with Superman and Bizarro, Bizarrow was like the alternate of Superman.
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So they had like Bizarro and Bizarro world, So that
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fit in my head, Like I when I went to
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the library, I just considered it like Bizarro world, where
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things are like backwards and don't make sense, like there's
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no rhyme or reason. I was in a very like
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old school regiment and Catholic school, like there's right and
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there's wrong, and when there's wrong, you get pummeled. So
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in the library, it was not that. In the library,
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it was they would ask you a question and then
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follow it with like, don't think about it too much,
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just give us an answer. Whatever you say is right,
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which broke all logic and reason from everything outside of
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the library, Like what do you mean anything I say
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is right? So like that was one of the things
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that struck me as so peculiar, because I looked at
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the p people asking me the questions and was like,
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you're out of your mind. You're an adult. I'm eight
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and you're asking me questions and telling me, would you
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know whatever you say is right?
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How many other kids were in that program with you?
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Eric, I'm trying to picture out the like, So the
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way I remember it was that we each sat at
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a table with an attendant, and I'm trying to think
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of the amount of tables in there. So my guestimate
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it would be that there was probably eight to twelve
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kids in total that were in the room, but we
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were cordoned off with a separate attendant, each at a
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table individually. Wow.
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Do you think that these programs and I know they
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were going on across the country. I don't know how
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old you are, and I'm not going to pinpoint you
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on that. What years worth these we you can give
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us a decade? Was this the eighties? Nineties?
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This was the early eighties that it started from?
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It eighties? Okay, so a little bit after the program
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I was put in, which was for migren headaches or
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you know, learning disabilities and all that stuff. Different programs,
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And I'm just saying that I think these must have
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been going on across the country, And I'm wondering, do
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you think these programs are part of why we're not
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having disclosure.
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I do from my research and and and documented evidence,
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a lot of the people that are in the disclosure
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conversation contemporarily that are being put on pedestals, their names
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are in the paperwork. Their names are there. So you
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have folks like how put Off Russell, targ Jack Sarfadi,
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Ezach Bentavel, He's passed away. So I mean, these are
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these people. It's SRI. I was the outfit Stanford Research
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Institute that was getting all of these contracts, and all
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of these people were working as contractors and getting paid
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to be in these programs. And this documentation right in
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the archives of my website that states very clearly how
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they were experimenting on children. I keep saying it. Yeah,
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it begs the question, to what extent were you experimenting
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on children? Why is no one, you know, discussing this stuff.
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Why is no one asking people these questions of you know,
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how were you involved, who else was involved? What were
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you doing to these kids? What was the reason that
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you were doing it to these kids? How come these
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kids parents didn't know what you were doing to these kids?
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Better question, isn't it what were they? Well? I think
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it was the great why right. I mean, not that
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you were gifted and talented. I'm sure you are, but
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I mean whether it's on the ADHD side, learning disability side,
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or the gifted and talent side. They used these excuses too.
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I know there was like the minuance to the Stargate program,
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the Gateway program, Manager Foundation and other grants and things,
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and I'm wondering, like you mentioned how put Off and
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Russell Targan all this thing. So they I think had
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a carryosity city because children are not tainted, and I
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think they're closer to you know, the paranormal gifts, the
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side gifts. We're seeing a lot of that right now
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with the side games, and you know the telepathy tapes
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and you know nonverbal kids communicating telepathically. And I'm sure
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you know since these programs began, they had to have
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had an interest in children. Yet if you google it,
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they deny it, although there's documents in certain videos you
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can find that say otherwise. So I'm really happy, Eric
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that you're speaking out about that because I do believe
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this has effect that thousands of children across the nation,
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and that it needs to be exposed, and I hope
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more people come clean or not even become clean, but
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are rave enough to talk about it. And for years
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I would I would assume that most children that were
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put in these programs, like you said, their parents were unaware.
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that kind of triggers like, wait, wait a minute, that
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really wasn't all that normal. So were they when they
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like certain subjects like science or math or do you
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have any memories like that? Were you working with blocks
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or gas?
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They weren't teaching us anything that had to do with
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our standard curriculum. It was completely outside of that. They weren't.
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at those ages, but they weren't bringing us in there
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to give us higher level math. I was already I
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was already doing that in my regular class work. Like
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so technically, my school wanted to advance me into a
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higher level year. You know, if I was in third grade,
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they wanted me to be in fifth grade. My mother
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refused that she thought it would cause me social problems.
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I was already doing advanced stuff. So if I was
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in third grade, I was already crushing the third grade
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curriculum to the point that I would have everything completed,
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and the teachers had more issues with me being disruptive
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because I was done and board. So what wound up
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happening was that that teachers from the higher grade levels
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would come in to my third grade classroom as an example,
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and they would be giving me assignments that the fifth
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graders were working on. To fill my time, I would
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have to. I would do the advanced level curriculum that
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was already going on in the classroom. I didn't even
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need to be pulled out of the library for that.
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I was already doing multiple grades worth of work in
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my class. So when we got to the library, what
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I now know in hindsight, because again like I said earlier,
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they were lying to me. I didn't know what was
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going on. It didn't make sense. But since then, having
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done the research, I now know what was going on
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was the Monroe Institute protocols for a remote viewing session,
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and I nailed it. One time I saw there was
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someone by the name of Major Ed Dames who was
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very big in the Stargate program, remote viewing protocols, all
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that stuff, and I came across a video where he
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was actually engaging his own son going through the process
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to give an example of how it worked. And when
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I saw this video, Katie, like my jaw hit the
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floor because I was like, that is exactly what we
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were doing in the library, but they weren't telling us
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so effectively. Like they would give you a piece of
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paper and they would tell you to scribble on the paper.
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I now know that's called an idiogram, and then they
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would start to ask you questions and what you do
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is you would then take your writing implement I forget
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if it was a pen or pencil, and then they
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would ask you a question and tell you to touch
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the pencil to the line while answering the question, like
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while answering the question. And this is when they would
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say to you, like just answer quickly. You know anything
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that you say is right, which as a child, when
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they were being deceptive, that made no sense because they
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weren't explaining, you're doing a protocol, you're remote viewing, like
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they weren't telling us that, so I just did what
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I was told. It made no sense. But now in hindsight,
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I can do research as an adult and find out, oh,
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this is a very specific process they're trying to gain
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information from the ether, so to say, you know, it's
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a studying consciousness. It's getting information without without it coming
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through any of our known five senses. Yeah, I was
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telling me this is a kid. They were just they
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just wanted me to do the task and get them
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the answer, right.
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I mean, it makes sense to me that who you
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are now and what you've been able to uncover and
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the curiosity you have and the ability to see the
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whole table to make these connections probably comes from that
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early training. So that all makes good sense to me
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because of course with them in Row institution and that
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they can keep you in that data state. And if
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you had training early on, Eric, that would totally make
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sense to why you're connecting these dots now. So let's
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kind of get into that right now. I'm going to
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bring up a picture here. Let me put us on
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the side here hopefully I don't know if this cover
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us or not, but talk about where he went inwardnesses,
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and a little bit about just the continent itself.
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You got it, so that is the greater Antarctic continent.
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Why my computer is making so much noise? I flew
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in from New Zealand from christ Church, New Zealand into
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what you see McMurdo Station there down on the coast
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of Antarctica. And then from McMurdo Station, I flew to
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the Adminston Scott South Pole Station, where I basically stayed
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for three hundred and sixty six days straight before exiting
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back towards McMurdo and out through christ Church again.
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And how cold does it get there?
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How the coldest that I ever experienced was minus one
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hundred and three point four degrees ambient.
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Oh my goodness.
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I became a member of the three hundred club, so
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that's it's a very prestigious club with very few members.
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When the temperature gets down to minus one hundred degrees,
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you know, the weatherman knows that it's coming and they
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make an announcement so that we can prep. On the
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first floor of the facility, there is actually a sauna,
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and when they know that it's going to get that cold,
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they make the announcement. They get the entire medical crew ready,
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and the people that are bold enough to engage the experience.
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We all pile into the sauna with just a towel
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and our boots on and we wait in there so
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the sauna we fire. The rules are that you have
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to fire the sawn up to two hundred degrees. Being
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the nerds that we were, we fired it up to
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two fourteen. So when the weatherman calls on the LMR
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radio and says that we've hit minus one hundred, then
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everybody runs out the sauna, exits the facility while dropping
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your towel inside, so you just have on your boots
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and your birthday suit and then you bid run around
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the geographic south pole and then back into the building.
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temperature difference, like almost instantaneously. And we bumped it to
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the two fourteen, so it was officially a three fourteen
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temperature difference because we were going for that pie number
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three point one four, so we bumped it up a
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little bit. So not only did I experience the coldest
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temperature of minus one oh three point four, but I
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did it in my birthday suit.
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Oh oh my goodness. I mean you can't, okay, So
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you're telling me that you can go outside when it's
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that called Yes, yes you can, okay. That that blows
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my mind.
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When when you're in the sauna, you get covered with sweat, right,
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and when you go outside, the environment at the south
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Pole is is literally zero percent humidity.
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Okay, so there's there's a peculiar aspect of science that occurs.
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When you exit the door, you're soaking wet with sweat
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and a zero percent humidity. It's really cool, Katie. You
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literally can see every pore in your body jet hitting gases. Wow. Literally,
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so if you stay still, you just start creating your
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own cloud. And when you start running, you're like a locomotive,
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like you're you're literally have exhaust gas trail behind you
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that you're emitting.
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And it makes a buffer zone actually, so you're gassing
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so much that there's like velocity and and and hermal
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mass ejecting from you. That's like a buffer to keep
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the cold away from you, so you don't actually really
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feel it at first, excuse me. And it was funny
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because on the day that we did this, a coworker
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of mine, we were the first two people when they
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announced it that were like, let's just do it. So
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we charged out. Other people stayed in the in the
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sauna and were like, like, I guess getting more prepped.
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around the South Pole. Our off gassing was dwindling, so
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we were absolutely starting to feel the cold. And just
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as we made it back to the elevated station at
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the ground level entry door, we were like like we
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were ready to get inside, like we were feeling it.
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It was like, oh my god, we need to get
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back inside. And as soon as we went to go
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grab the door handle to go in, all of a
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sudden the door swings open and all the people that
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are completely toasty warms start running out black our path
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and we're like, get the hell out of the like,
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hurry up, Oh my god, get out of our way.
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We're dying.
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I mean, does this feel isolating out there for you?
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Do they do psychological testing and things like that?
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I mean, do people a man of psychological testing to
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qualify to winter at the Pole?
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Doctor Nicoletti, who was, I believe at the time, the
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head psychiatrist of the Los Angeles Police Department and the
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Denver Broncos So he's, you know, world renowned psychologist. He
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was in charge of the psychological evaluations for South Pole
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winter rovers. I had multiple tests before I went down
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to the ice, and then even after my summer season.
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Before we engaged the winter season, he actually came down
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to the ice to give us individual tests and questions
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and stuff to make sure that we were psychologically competent
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and prepared for the mission of wintering South Pole. And
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you asked before if it's isolating, it's the most isolating
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thing that you can get involved with on this planet.
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That I would say, yeah, imagine an astronaut.
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You're not going to find as much isolation home. Every
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time that picture goes up, I just like it blows
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my mind.
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Well, tell us about this a little bit. What is this?
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So that's that's the elevated station. When I was there,
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it transitioned from construction to operations and maintenance. I was
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part of the first crew to function it in the
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operations and maintenance capacity, basically running it through the motions
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to make sure that it was constructed properly. What you're
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looking at that staircase there is known as DA Destination Alpha.
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It's this skiway side. So looking at this picture to
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the right would be the skiway where the planes would
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arrive and depart, and personnel arriving this would be basically
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the first door that they would walk in would be
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the first floor of that staircase there. The second floor
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of that staircase, the windows up top side would be
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the observation area for flight following and people observing the
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flight line. And then yeah, actually looking at that picture,
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there's a lot of activity going on that I almost
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wonder if that's from my season. Now, the back staircase
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isn't done yet, so there's a staircase to the back
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right that's not complete. So this picture from in flights.
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Many flights going on out.
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Of there during the summer season. There's twenty four hour
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operations for flights during the winter season, is none Okay?
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Interesting? All right, Now let's get into it, shall we
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folks talk about what this is at the ice cued lab.
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Okay, So the big picture there showing the depth and
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the strings, and the yellow and the red line that
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would be sub subterranean in the ice and the little
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black square that they blow up to bring the picture
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up top, that's the ice cube laboratory. And in that
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white square up top where the ice cube lab is
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in the middle, all those dots in the shape of
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a hexagram are all the different strings that go down.
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And then then the pictures on the right you'll see
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that round object that looks like about the size of
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a basketball that has a steel ring band around the middle.
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That's called a dome. There are five thousand they go
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and that's the last dom ever inserted in the ice,
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hence all the signatures. There are five thousand, one hundred
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and sixty of those domes embedded in the ice, which
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is effectively the ice cube neutrino detector.
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And what is the story, we're told, what are the
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green here? What is this supposed to do? For just
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the layman is a.
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Great picture for it. So you see the the yellow
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and the red lines there. So basically, the concept is
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that neutrinos, which there are trillions of them, they're they're
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almost massless, they're super small. Uh, A neutrino can pass
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through an atom in between it's you know, electron shell
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and the nucleus and not hitting anything most of the time.
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But at the neutrino array, what you're seeing there is
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like the pathway of a neutrino entering the array and
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then in the you know, in the network of those domes,
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they're they're optical modules. What they're looking for is when
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a neutrino actually does impact the nucleus of a water molecule,
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albeit frozen in ice form. When that impact occurs, the
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neutrino and the nucleus are destroyed. A muon, which is
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now a new particle that's manufactured from that engagement, is ejected,
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and then there's also a blue flash of light known
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as Sharon Coough radiation, and that's effectively what the doms
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are trying to identify as the flash of light. And then,
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because of how you know, the doms in different relationship
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to each other will register a different amount of lights.
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It's then calculated that they can get a trajectory from
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whence the neutrino came. And then that's the concept of
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what they're telling us is the purpose of it scientifically,
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and then they'll they'll take those the triangulated direction from
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whence it came, and then they will shoot that information out.
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What they would tell us is to you know, many
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other telescopes around the world so that they can then
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try to direct their view to check to see, you know,
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what's going on where that neutrino apparently came from.
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Wow. Okay, now, Eric, let's get into what you witnessed
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out there and what you believe might be going on
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what you testified in Congress about in these gifts that
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you can lifely.
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Say what I what I found out is that each
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of the doms has the capacity to transmit at two
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thousand and forty seven vaults, So you multiply that by
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the five thousand and one hundred and sixty domes and
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effectively looking at the world's largest phased array transmitter. Unfortunately,
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what I had learned was that it was when when
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I was president, So not only did the elevated station
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go from construction to operations and maintenance, it was also
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that same season that the ice cube neutrino detector went
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into completion from construction, and also it was the first
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time that was being used actively. And what I had
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learned was that the firing up of the system and
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its transmit mode was responsible for the earthquakes that happened
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in christ Church, New Zealand in two thousand in February
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of two thousand and eleven, which for the most part
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decimated that city. I was actually told that it was
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like friendly fire, that it was accidental. That you know,
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just like you if you build a gun, you know
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you have to take it to the range you have
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to aim at at the bull's eye, pull the trigger
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and see how close you are to the mark, and
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then make corrections to be more precise. And it was
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in that capacity that I was told that it was
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a misfiring. I do believe that it might have been
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somebody trying to be more polite with the information, because
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since then I've come to believe that it was much
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less of an accident. I did have somebody send me
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information which was a wiki leaks link. I guess you
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would say where it was leaked email from none other
519
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than Hillary Clinton referencing said earthquakes in February of twenty
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and eleven in christ Church. And what was stated in
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her email And I'm paraphrasing a bit because I can't
522
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remember things verbatim, but she said something to the effect
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that she was happy that the earthquakes occurred and on cue.
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Oh, well, that's kind of telling, isn't it. I mean,
525
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is this one thing? Is this? So is the ice
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cube lab? Is is it connected to what's going on
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with HARP? And I mean there has been so far.
528
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It's an extension of the technology. Okay, I would say
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that you know all of the things that Hart can
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do for science, obviously you can do, but then it
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also has secondary and tertiary capacities which are very nefarious.
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I've often said that the ice CB petrino detector array
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is like harp on steroids because like and I've been
534
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to the call An, Alaska facility a couple of times.
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I've gotten as close as I can to the you know,
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secure gates, and that facility is on the surface of
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the Earth. So as a as it is a phased
538
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array transmitter, it only has the dimensions of length and width.
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It's a two dimensional transmitter that sits on the surface
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of the Earth, unlike the system at the South pul station,
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which now adds depth and a massive amount of it.
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So it's a third dimension to this phase array transmitter,
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which gives it a greater magnitude of capabilities.
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Okay, see you use the word phrase dearray and I've
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heard of this before. I've had people reach out to
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me on you know some of these high strangers ranches,
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Rocky Mountain Ranch, can walk a ranch, all these places
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that you know Reno government involvement was maybe something's hidden there,
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and can you speak a little bit about maybe the
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potential of what a phase array would do, why it
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would be beneficial. Are we're shooting down looks with these things?
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What is a phase de ray? Are they hidden underground,
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across the country, across the wall? What do you know
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about that? Can can you kind of explain that a
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little bit?
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I think a phase array transmitter? How do I best
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put this? It's just it's more of a reference to
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the ability to, I guess, aim the transmission. So you know,
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people can think of a radar dish right like it
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can rotate, it could change its angle and stuff like that.
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So it gives you the ability to point it. The doms,
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which are embedded in the ice, they don't move. So
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by phasing the rays almost like by firing a certain
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amount at a certain time and another amount that And
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I mean these are probably like millisecond differences, like really
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minute amounts. But by the sequence of firing of the
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doms affords you the ability to aim the transmission moving outwards.
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Okay, got it? And and do you think so? My
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question then is if we have the capacity to manipulate
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and control earthquakes or even weather, And I'll ask you
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what you think about, like, you know, the what do
572
00:34:26.960 --> 00:34:30.800
they call it? The dusting with the airplane. Oh m trails,
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kim trails. If that's the real thing, We'll get into
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that question in a minute. But if we is that,
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what if we, ever Heavens forbid, go into a World
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War three, it's going to be fought in a very
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different way. Does this all play a role into.
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That We're already it's already happening around us for a
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really long time. Like it's not if we get there,
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We're already there. All of these technologies have been hardly
581
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invested in on our being applied every day of our lives.
582
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Now we're we're in the throes of that. It's modern warfare,
583
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but the weapons of war are invisible. It's not people
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running around shooting guns in your proximity anymore, where you
585
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would hear the crack of the rifle and your neighbor
586
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would have a bullet hole. So they're wounded. The walking
587
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wounded are are suffering ailments that people don't know the
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source of. They're being ignored and the firing of the
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weapon is now currently invisible.
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And who has control of this technology? I mean, is it?
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Because when I went to both skiffs, that was the
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end result of the conversation is that everybody in the
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room agreed and understood that apparently, whoever these factions are
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that are wielding these weapons are doing it without the
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oversight of the US government or other governments. These are
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now factions. The governments are not. The governments aren't the players.
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It's above that the governments are puppets. I would suggest
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that this is now. It just it's in the hands
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of what Eisenhower warned us about the military industrial corporation complexes. Right,
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if you had a tank building company and I had
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00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:29.280
an airplane building company, we sell our products to the governments.
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They don't make stuff. They buy what we sell them. Katie,
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if you and I are rich billionaires and we were
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manufacturing this equipment, wouldn't it be wise to make sure
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that we had better equipment than them?
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Right? It's interesting. We just recently Colorado Movement and had
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Ryan Wood speaking, of course, he's the son of Bob Wood,
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and you know he had mentioned, you know, Walking and
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Refion and Northern Grommen and these different aerospace companies competing
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with one another for technologies, And I never really thought
611
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of it that way before. For some ninety reason, I'm
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thinking of you're kind of work hand in hand. It's
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not that compartmental. They all work together us or you know,
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all that stuff to come to a common goal. But
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from what I'm understanding, that's not the case at all.
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And the normal waby dollar and power and control is
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00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:26.840
what's that play here? So is that what we're finding too.
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You have these different whether it's aerospace companies or are
619
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they like you know, leading science companies, or do you
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think universities are involved as well?
621
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:41.039
The universities are absolutely involved. The academic arm that runs
622
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the ice cube neutrino detectors University of Wisconsin, Madison, which
623
00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:47.119
is where I got the documentation that proves that the
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stuff transmits. So absolutely, it's it's oh, what a terrible
625
00:37:51.800 --> 00:37:54.599
web we weave when first we set out to deceive.
626
00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:57.239
There's a lot of deception going on, and back to
627
00:37:57.280 --> 00:37:59.960
the whole idea of corporations, right, that's the that's what's
628
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:03.239
warring is going on. People are cognizant that, you know,
629
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there's espionage going on between nation states, but they don't
630
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want to believe that. You know, Raytheon and Lockheed Martin
631
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also have swat teams and espionage teams and if you're
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the president of one company, I'm the president of another company.
633
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We're at war with each other. We're at war with
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each other with the better product lines that we wield
635
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that we haven't sold to the governments, because then you
636
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and I can kick each other's asses and all they
637
00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:31.159
can do is watch.
638
00:38:31.639 --> 00:38:34.199
Right, and then you throw in the different countries involved.
639
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I happened to meet a really high up in gene
640
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in General Electric, and you know, we've gone into this
641
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long conversation about the rock amount ranche, what we knew
642
00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:48.400
technologies back engineering. There was like an hour on conversation.
643
00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:50.920
They're like, do you want to know you know what
644
00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:54.920
was on Nancy Pelosi's laptop some of the back engineer
645
00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:57.880
stuff that General Electric that the Chinese would like to
646
00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:00.239
get their hands on. And I'm like, oh, oh, so
647
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:02.960
they have part of General electricum at the other part.
648
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And so you know, I never looked at it that
649
00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:08.320
way that there was this kind of secret kicking in.
650
00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:13.760
The technology that's publicly known is regulated, right, If it's
651
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not publicly known, it's unregulated, right.
652
00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:21.320
That's scary. So when you're in these gifts, is that
653
00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:25.519
a discussion that's being had right now? Like how to
654
00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:31.719
how to this? What is that word? Uh? I guess
655
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I don't like the word disclosure here, but some control
656
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on regulations, I guess on what's happening with some of
657
00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:41.440
these you know, how.
658
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Do we how do we gain how do we gain
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00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:48.880
oversight over the rogue factions that are operating without regulation
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with monopolized technologies. I mean that that's where we are today.
661
00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:58.159
That's the discussion that's not happening while there's a mass
662
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counterintelligence operation going on to cover up the things that
663
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I'm suggesting with this unending argument about UFOs and space aliens,
664
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which I'm not opposed to, Like, I absolutely believe there's
665
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life in the cosmos and that you know, things come
666
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and go and visit. But what you cannot convince me
667
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of is that that is the majority of the activity
668
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that we're witnessing, right. I think the vast majority of
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the activity we're witnessing is simply man made, and the
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powers that be are taking advantage of the ignorance of
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humanity by laying it at the feet of UFOs or UAPs,
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and then they'll always say, oh, we don't have this technology.
673
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It's got to be it's got to be some crazy orful,
674
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they're just lying. They know we have the technology, they
675
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absolutely know it.
676
00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:56.800
Right. Well, my question then, like, you know, it's one
677
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thing to have men and women who swear to our
678
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military to you know, and not have the clearances to
679
00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:07.159
keep you know, they will lose their pensions, they will
680
00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:09.880
lose their credibility, they will lose a lot. They stand
681
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to lose a lot if they come forward with secrets. Okay,
682
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what is keeping scientists and people who just work for
683
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walking newt or do they have systems in place to
684
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keep them quiet? I mean, why are.
685
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They all of these all of these people in these conversations.
686
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So when I try to assess the value of somebody's information,
687
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one of the first things I consider is like, how
688
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do they rate on a scale of one to ten
689
00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:43.000
on the compromisability scale? How compromisable is someone? How can
690
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be How can people be compromised? Right, if we just
691
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:48.480
start to simply put together a list, how how can
692
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you compromise someone with money? Threats?
693
00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:53.039
Right?
694
00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:57.079
So, if the person can be compromised by money, can
695
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be compromised by threats, they're probably compromised, which we're seeing
696
00:42:03.239 --> 00:42:08.360
in the UFO disclosure commodities circus. Right, They're literally bringing
697
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people in in front of politicians that are pretending to
698
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be operating in good faith. And every one of these
699
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people that they're bringing up is saying, uh, you know,
700
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I'm losing my job, I need money, we need help,
701
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we need the UAPDF fond and no body the way
702
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I'm getting threatened.
703
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Cool.
704
00:42:26.599 --> 00:42:30.159
So you just expressed to everybody that you're completely compromisable.
705
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M hm.
706
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That's all I'm hearing from all of these whistleblowers is
707
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I need more money and I'm scared boom. They're they're
708
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scoring really high on that compromisability chart, right.
709
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But I mean even if they passed a lot of
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protections into place, like we want to do for our
711
00:42:49.639 --> 00:42:53.360
pirates and our you know, whistle blowers that come forward
712
00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:57.880
in the military, and that is ultimately might not protect them.
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Have people. Do you are that people have lost their
714
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lives studenting with some of these technologies.
715
00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:07.519
I'm sure that they have, But that threat actually seems
716
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to have dissipated because things are too public now and
717
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can and be traced back to stuff. One of the
718
00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:16.920
things that's very important for people to realize too, is
719
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that all of these people that are compromised. I'm trying
720
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to think of how to say this politely. I will
721
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say that they're less bold of action because they're compromised,
722
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when in reality, they have nothing to fear because none
723
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of the nda is that they signed or any of
724
00:43:35.719 --> 00:43:37.719
these things put them in harm's way if it turns
725
00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:40.119
out that the operation that they're involved with is illegal.
726
00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:45.880
So again, if these factions are operating with monopolized technology,
727
00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:50.840
they're completely rogue and there's no oversight that's illegal. So
728
00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:54.760
these people are under no obligation to keep their mouths shut.
729
00:43:55.119 --> 00:43:59.199
They should be screaming from the mountaintops that I was
730
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involved with and Aanagan's this shouldn't be going on. Where
731
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are the women that are going to do the right
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thing exclusively for it being the right thing, not for
733
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monetary renumeration, not for some protection for the rest of
734
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their life. I am very critical of veterans people in
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the military, right. I don't lay this. I don't lay
736
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the responsibility the citizens that are involved, because they didn't
737
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take an oath military did. They took an oath against
738
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all enemies, foreign and domestic, and they offered their life
739
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on the line. They they that's what's going on. So
740
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if these people say I'm afraid that that doesn't make
741
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sense to me. If you're willing to join the military
742
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and put your life on the line, that obligation never right.
743
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This kind of reminds me Eric. I didn't watch the
744
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whole thing, but I caught a little bit of a
745
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recent Jeroban episode where he was interviewing and I don't
746
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part of me, but I don't remember the gentleman's name.
747
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But he had morals and he learned of a torture
748
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program and did not want to be involved with illegally torturing,
749
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torturing people in horrific ways, like I mean just listening
750
00:45:26.639 --> 00:45:28.679
to some of these things, you know, being changed to
751
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the ceiling and being kept awake for multiple days on end,
752
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and just horrible torture.
753
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And he did Ganda.
754
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I don't know, but he but he was. I mean,
755
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like they came after him, not not with you know,
756
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threats and all that, but with prison time, and you
757
00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:52.440
had to fight the good fight. And I mean we
758
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:55.280
were talking like forty years in prison. This man faced
759
00:45:55.400 --> 00:45:58.199
Jill's for helving morals and Jills for not wanting to
760
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be part of a torture program. So maybe, just maybe
761
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these scientists where men and women that are part of
762
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these programs could be threatened with similar types of things.
763
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I don't know absolutely they're being compromised. This is Katie, This,
764
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what we're dealing with in adulthood is no different than
765
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what we dealt with in childhood. Right. If a bully
766
00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:20.639
steps up to you in the schoolyard and bullies you,
767
00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:24.360
and you succumb to their bullying, you're a coward and
768
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the bully wins. So and as adults, the environment slightly changed,
769
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but the activity is the same. If every single time
770
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a bully shows up and people acquiesce, then the bullies win.
771
00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:39.880
That's not how we're raised. That's not the way we
772
00:46:39.960 --> 00:46:42.960
raise children, or I should say it's not the way
773
00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:46.440
we used to raise children. But all too often, as
774
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of recent you know, we've we've we've reprimanded the child
775
00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:53.880
that is the victim and not the one that's in
776
00:46:54.599 --> 00:46:57.840
being the bully. So this is this is a rep
777
00:46:57.840 --> 00:47:01.519
what we sow aspect of society. When I was a kid,
778
00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:04.360
I always taught that if a bully steps up to
779
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in the schoolyard and threatens you, you punch them in
780
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:11.480
the face. Yeah, you don't go. You don't waste time
781
00:47:11.559 --> 00:47:14.480
going getting the teacher. You deal with it. Otherwise, the
782
00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:18.079
bully owns your ass and will always bully you. So
783
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I'm sorry. These people are by definition cowards. If a
784
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bully bullies you and you give in, you're a coward.
785
00:47:27.039 --> 00:47:30.039
Yeah, Eric, I mean, have you personally you had to
786
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:36.320
face any you know, balloons or stand up to try
787
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to put you up about you.
788
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I've been threatened with violence. I've actually been assaulted. When
789
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I went to the event in Washington, d C. In
790
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June of twenty three, there was a couple other whistleblowers
791
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that caught the tail end of it, Michael Herrera, d
792
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c Long, Stephen Digner. They were present by former crew
793
00:47:57.719 --> 00:48:01.280
member that came with me into the skiffs witnessed it also. So,
794
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I mean I didn't back down and I didn't lose.
795
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That's you know, that's called not being a coward. I've
796
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had family members threatened with violence. It's just like you
797
00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:19.400
just can't ever acquiesce. That's and what people will learn,
798
00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:21.960
which is what we learned in the school Yard's children,
799
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is that if you simply don't give into the bully,
800
00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:30.599
the bully actually has no power. Yeah, frustrated with these
801
00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:33.400
whistleblowers that are all like I don't want to say
802
00:48:33.400 --> 00:48:36.360
anything because I'm scared, and it's like, well, you know,
803
00:48:36.760 --> 00:48:39.599
and then the bully wins and we lose.
804
00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:47.519
We lost Derek everybody, hopefully he'll be back here. You're black,
805
00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:50.239
I'm here the bullying right now.
806
00:48:51.000 --> 00:48:53.119
Yeah. Your you froze up for a second on your
807
00:48:53.159 --> 00:48:54.599
video screen. But I heard you the whole time.
808
00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:57.960
We hear weather, which is interesting. I didn't. I don't know.
809
00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:01.840
You're in Tesla's lightning land.
810
00:49:02.239 --> 00:49:04.800
Well we are, We're right there in the heart of it. Yeah.
811
00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:07.239
So yeah, speaking of Tesla way, I mean, I can't
812
00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:09.519
believe this hour is almost gone already. We're down to
813
00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:13.039
about ten minutes here. But a couple of things. Let's
814
00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:16.800
talk about Technlo Tesla technology. I mean, do you think
815
00:49:16.840 --> 00:49:18.199
this is all connected with that?
816
00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:21.920
Oh? Absolutely, This is just a It's a high level
817
00:49:21.960 --> 00:49:25.320
of technology that was occulted away back in the day
818
00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:28.039
of Tesla. And this is why I use the term
819
00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:32.559
monopolized technology. It's not that this stuff doesn't exist, it's
820
00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:34.159
just that it doesn't exist for the most of us.
821
00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:37.079
There's other great researchers out there that refer to it
822
00:49:37.119 --> 00:49:40.840
as like a breakaway civilization. So it's just the higher
823
00:49:40.960 --> 00:49:45.360
level rich people have been wielding these technologies for their
824
00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:48.039
benefit against us.
825
00:49:48.280 --> 00:49:51.360
Right, And I don't want to write down any political
826
00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:53.960
lanes here. It's not a lot on my channel.
827
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I just don't. It's a sign from all political lines.
828
00:49:59.400 --> 00:50:01.400
But John, I mean, I think it's interesting though, that
829
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was it. President Trump's uncle was the one that got
830
00:50:06.920 --> 00:50:10.000
access to the Tesla files. I just think it's interesting
831
00:50:10.280 --> 00:50:13.559
that that's kind of connected there, and maybe they're.
832
00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:17.440
Super interesting and politics aside, Like if we just deal
833
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:20.599
with these as human beings, it's a very interesting connection
834
00:50:21.360 --> 00:50:24.320
the line of information going through these human beings and
835
00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:29.480
the positions that people are in contemporarily. Yeah, politics is
836
00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:31.599
a con job. I've always said that, you know, the
837
00:50:31.639 --> 00:50:34.920
purpose of politics is to get one hundred percent of
838
00:50:34.920 --> 00:50:38.079
the people to focus on fifty percent of the problem.
839
00:50:38.440 --> 00:50:38.719
Yeah.
840
00:50:39.280 --> 00:50:42.119
Right. If I'm a Democrat and you're a Republican, then
841
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I'm going to say your side sucks, and you're going
842
00:50:43.880 --> 00:50:46.320
to say my side sucks, and then the people that
843
00:50:46.360 --> 00:50:48.760
are up top win because they got one hundred percent
844
00:50:48.760 --> 00:50:50.599
of the people to focus on just fifty percent of
845
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the problem.
846
00:50:51.840 --> 00:50:54.760
Yeah, I agreed, I agree, I yeah. I think we
847
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all have more in common than we don't, and they
848
00:50:57.639 --> 00:51:00.519
just like to keep us divided and fearful and that's
849
00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:02.480
how they keep the control and power. And I think
850
00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:05.360
what you're doing is very brave speaking out. And what
851
00:51:05.880 --> 00:51:08.280
can all the rest of us do? What is your advice?
852
00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:12.039
I mean, you know, for somebody like me who doesn't
853
00:51:12.119 --> 00:51:15.039
understand the science, but I understand that there's something going
854
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:18.840
on that has no accountability and there should be accountability.
855
00:51:19.159 --> 00:51:22.400
What can we do to kind of get the word out,
856
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:25.760
like we want some accountability for these technologies because I
857
00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:29.599
don't want some dang, small little corporation blowing up the world.
858
00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:34.679
I think we should stop focusing on any belief that
859
00:51:34.719 --> 00:51:37.760
the government is the door we should be knocking on.
860
00:51:38.599 --> 00:51:42.159
They are completely part of the cover up and they
861
00:51:42.199 --> 00:51:46.400
are pawns to the higher level players in the game,
862
00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:49.480
which is the corporations, because they're the ones that are
863
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:53.719
rogue without oversight and monopolizing the technology. If we the
864
00:51:53.760 --> 00:51:58.960
people read direct our efforts and energies at the corporations
865
00:52:01.400 --> 00:52:08.400
knock on that door, that's where the truth is at. Right.
866
00:52:08.440 --> 00:52:13.199
So it's like a football game, right, skates, It's like
867
00:52:13.199 --> 00:52:16.039
a football game. Right. You have the lineman, right, The
868
00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:19.440
linemen are just blockers for the quarterback. You're not really
869
00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:25.199
focused on getting the linement. You're focused on the quarterback.
870
00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:28.840
That's the mission is to get to the actual source
871
00:52:29.000 --> 00:52:33.880
the goal. But the government is just the blockers. And
872
00:52:33.920 --> 00:52:36.880
if we just keep engaging the blockers, that the quarterback
873
00:52:36.960 --> 00:52:38.159
have just run into the end zone.
874
00:52:39.039 --> 00:52:42.400
Right, So can you write letters to a congressman? Can
875
00:52:42.440 --> 00:52:43.400
we just.
876
00:52:43.239 --> 00:52:49.599
Stem everything that anybody can think of? They should do everything.
877
00:52:49.639 --> 00:52:52.159
They should be putting up signs. They should be picketing
878
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:54.880
in front of Raytheon and Lockheed and saying, give us
879
00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:59.280
the truth you have it. We should be boycotting their products.
880
00:53:00.119 --> 00:53:03.440
Everything that could be done. We should be writing letters
881
00:53:03.800 --> 00:53:06.920
to the people on the boards, people you know, high
882
00:53:07.079 --> 00:53:11.719
high stakes and stockholders. We should, you know, go after
883
00:53:11.880 --> 00:53:14.559
companies that are running their ads and say, will no
884
00:53:14.639 --> 00:53:17.400
longer buy your products if you're running their ads. Everything
885
00:53:17.480 --> 00:53:22.559
that we can do to negatively impact their bottom line.
886
00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:25.840
Yeah, Because I mean, if we had Tesla technology, I'm
887
00:53:26.039 --> 00:53:33.480
certain we have the capability for everybody to have free powers.
888
00:53:33.599 --> 00:53:37.719
All that stuff doctor a component of that and they
889
00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:39.039
are just keeping it from us.
890
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And here's a really easy one for everybody to wrap
891
00:53:41.119 --> 00:53:45.480
their head around. Right, Katie, you travel, right, So you know, Hey,
892
00:53:45.480 --> 00:53:47.960
if I want to go do an event somewhere like
893
00:53:48.039 --> 00:53:51.079
let's say China, right, it's x amount of miles x
894
00:53:51.119 --> 00:53:53.239
amount of hours of your life that you have to
895
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invest to get there and back. Right. Did you know
896
00:53:56.119 --> 00:54:01.480
the FAA. The FAA regulates the maximum amount of speed
897
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that a commercial plane is allowed to fly. So therefore,
898
00:54:04.440 --> 00:54:11.039
the manufacturers don't build things faster than that. Okay, that
899
00:54:11.039 --> 00:54:13.440
doesn't mean that a plane can't travel. Like, let's just
900
00:54:13.519 --> 00:54:16.440
let's just say, for argument's sake, commercial flights could travel
901
00:54:16.559 --> 00:54:19.239
let's just say thousand miles an hour. Well, that's because
902
00:54:19.239 --> 00:54:23.079
it's regulated to that, and the manufacturers build to the regulation.
903
00:54:24.880 --> 00:54:30.960
What if technology allows for three thousand miles an hour? Right,
904
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So why do we have this regulation that limits you
905
00:54:34.039 --> 00:54:38.760
as a human being, regulates how fast you're allowed to
906
00:54:38.800 --> 00:54:41.679
move around this planet? I would say you've been wronged.
907
00:54:42.119 --> 00:54:45.079
I believe that there are technologies that exist if the
908
00:54:45.119 --> 00:54:49.559
regulations didn't prohibit that your flight to China should only
909
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take an hour?
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Yeah, I wouldn't that be wonderful, And wouldn't.
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It be wonderful if you were allowed to receive the
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benefit of all of the moneies that you've invested as
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a taxpayer that have gone into the research and development
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of the technologies that you're not allowed to use. I
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would say you are now suffering under the rogue agencies
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that have monopolized the technology, because I would suggest that
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there are people on this planet that do have access
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to these technologies, that are using them with great regularity,
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and then when they get caught with their pants down,
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they run up a story about UFOs. They go, oh,
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that's not ours, we don't have that technology up. Now
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you froze up and I don't hear you. They got
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mad when I said to protest against the corporations and
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hit their bottom line. Can you hear me now, Katie?
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Oh boy, aren't technical difficulties fun? Oh there we're back,
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all right, there we go.
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Yeah, we have a massive strong right now speaking of
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But let's talk about deciphering and TV and what can
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be found there. I know people can go and find
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all information about Eric here, tell us what they can
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find on your site.
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Eric. Yep, So deciphering dot TV is a is a
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platform that I started a few years back. It's where
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I try to put all of my information and interviews
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and stuff. You'll see that there's a forum up there
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for folks to engage. There's also an archives section so
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that a lot of the documentation that I come across
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I put there for people. If they just simply want
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to view it, they can, or they can download it
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and have a copy for themselves.
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Said, that's cool that you can down Yep.
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It's downloadable. I'm actually growing the site. I'm going to
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be bringing more folks on into the team or the
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content creators and researchers that I've been working with in
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the community, so that you know, we can operate outside
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of the management of the social media platforms and the
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algorithms and the censorship, so that you know, we the
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people can have a presence in the media to say
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that is not controlled. And another thing that I always
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try to recommend to folks, you know, like you asked earlier,
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you know, what can we do to change things for
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the future and help our children out is contemporarily, we
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need to become unmanageable right now, which is we're very managed.
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You know, our daday lives. Every aspect of everything that
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we do is hardly influenced by other people, so become unmanageable.
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And then people say, well, how do I do that?
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And there's a very easy thing that everybody can start doing.
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Start paying cash everywhere you go, Right, do you.
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Think you know? The COVID nineteen was kind of to
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see how far they can to push us all howsot
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how much they can control us?
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Absolutely one thousand percent, yep. They wanted to see how
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much we can make these people dance to the tune
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that we play.
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Yeah, and what do you think would happen? If that happened,
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you know again, like next year, then everybody.
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Would bend over and take it again, because it was
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a perfect example of how everybody got perfectly managed. Right
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if at the time the COVID stuff got rolled out,
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if everybody just simply refused to be managed by the
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regulations that were forced upon us, it wouldn't have occurred.
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I forget if it was Sweden or Norway, which the
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United States didn't get the news at the time, but
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while we were all suffering under you know, you know,
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Nazi type regulations and Gestapo type stuff. I again, I
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forget if it was Noria, Sweden. But they started what
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was called the pots and pans movement. So when they
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were told to, you know, follow the rules, they laughed.
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They said no. Everyone simply stayed home and banged on
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pots and pans and told all of their politicians, guess what,
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we're not doing anything. Yeah, we're just They just stopped
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doing anything. They didn't go to work, they did nothing
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except the unmanageable say we're not listening until you guys
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cut the bs, and that's it. You're not in charge.
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We're not doing what you say. And that's all everyone
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had to do is just don't do it. But because
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people were compromisable, right that, people's jobs were threatened on
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so many levels. You can't this, you can't that if
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you don't listen to us, and everybody's compromisability was heartily
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on display.
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Right, we all can be brave and stop living in fear.
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And I think that, you know, that's a good way
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to end the podcast. Eric, You know, thank you, thank
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you for being fearless and speaking out about what you
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you know feel is going on out there and trying
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to bring in bring it to all of us so
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we can sort of catch up and go, hey, what
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the heck's going on. I can't thank you enough for
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being here on the Trifecta, and I hope to see
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you again next year out there in the San Luis
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Valley or if not, we'll see you somewhere else, I'm sure.
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And I hope everybody out there has a fantastic recie
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a week and be sure to check out Decipher and
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TV and Eric's work. And I thank you all for
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being here and I hope you have a great reciv
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a week. Everybody. Thank you. Good night, Tap tap ta
