Intercultural Intelligence - Elee Joven

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Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, babies in their diapers,
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welcome to the Tiberius.
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Show with your host, Tiberius Boy!
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That's me, Tiberius!
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Tiberius!
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And welcome to the W show today. And I'm your host.
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Boy.
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And as always, we're checking up various jobs, how they
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affect the world around us. And while today's guest helps
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people understand something that is super important in today's world, culture, identity, technology,
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and how we all connect with one another. Well, please
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welcome the one, the only, the amazing Ellie Jovan. Alright,
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well I wanted to say thank you for being on
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the show today.
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Oh, thank you for having me, Tiberius.
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Alright, so Ellie, for kids who have never heard of you,
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what exactly is cultural intelligence?
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Hmm, okay.
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So, kids, if you are around different people from different backgrounds,
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it's basically the ability to function and navigate through those
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diverse cultures and people. That's it.
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All right.
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So when you say culture, are we talking about like food, language,
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family traditions, or all of it? Hmm.
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Okay.
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So that is an interesting, um, tape because I think
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a lot of people, when they hear the word culture,
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they automatically think it has something to do with like
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either the race or ethnicity, you know, where you originally
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came from. But it goes much deeper than that. So
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food and language, those are the things that we can
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see and hear. But cultural intelligence goes much deeper because
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it takes into consideration the reason on why people behave
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and act and think the way they do. So yeah,
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it's like the things we don't see as opposed to
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not just the things that we do see.
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Yeah. So you were born in Guam and raised with
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Filipino heritage. So what was that like growing up?
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Oh, that was pretty interesting because I grew up in
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going back and forth between the two places during my childhood.
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And it was really hard because in the Philippines back then,
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we're talking about like in the 80s, early 80s.
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You know, it's a different language. It's a different country.
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And whereas Guam, everybody speaks English and you're Americans, American citizens,
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but yet the people.
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In Guam, the locals, they're called Chamorros.
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So I was in the with the Chamorro culture, which
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is the Guamanian side. And then my roots is the
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Filipino side. And at the same time, we had the
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Americans who were, because there's a big military base, two
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bases in Guam. So it was pretty much like navigating,
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you know, different people, right? And right now it's so common,
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but back then it wasn't as commonplace. So now, you know,
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you come here in the States and There's different kinds
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of people everywhere. But again, this is back in the 80s.
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So it was a little tougher for me because when
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I would travel to the Philippines, I'd had to learn
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how to speak.
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The Tagalog language. And I didn't know how back then.
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And I did go to school in the Philippines as well.
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So it was pretty challenging the first few years. Yeah.
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So when you were a kid, did you always feel
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like your culture was a strength?
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I'm gonna say yes and and the reason why I
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say that is because yes it's a strength.
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Because in Guam and.
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Filipino culture they're pretty similar but I'm gonna say I
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And not really because I think back then a lot
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of people strive to look up to like the American culture.
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You know, they want the American dream. So that's why
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I say it's yes and rather than yes but.
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Yeah. So how did you learn to be proud of
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where you came from?
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I learned to be proud of where I came from
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because it's such a beautiful island, honestly. We have such
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good food and the people, you're surrounded by people who
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are very welcoming and, you know, it's all about togetherness,
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that sense of, and they have.
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A pride in their cultures. So that, that also, until now,
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I still have that.
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Look, I'm wearing this shirt that's more like, I got
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this in Bali, actually. This is not from Philippines, but,
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you know, I'm I'm proud to say that I recognize
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different cultures now.
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It is a strength for anybody. All right.
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So you became a mother when you were 18. How
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did that change your life?
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Oh my goodness.
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Tiberius, I don't know how old you are or how
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young you are, but I can't imagine looking at somebody
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right now who's 18 years old having a kid.
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Because, you know, they're so busy with their.
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iPhones and their internet gadgets and all that stuff, right?
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Becoming a mother at 18 was not anywhere in my plans.
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It was definitely last.
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So it changed my life a.
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Lot because I had to all of a sudden grow up.
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And just, like, I didn't even know how to change
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a diaper.
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Cause you know, I, I didn't, I wasn't really around
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much kids. So it's like 18 years old. Oh my goodness.
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Becoming responsible for another human being.
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It it's, uh, it's so hard.
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It's probably the hardest job in the world.
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And, um, I didn't have a life after that, you know?
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Yeah.
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So what was the hardest part about it?
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Um, There was the sleep part.
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You know, when you're a teenager and you pretty much
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can wake up anytime you want.
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And go out with your friends and just enjoy life, right?
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With me, no. You have a baby that wakes up
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every two hours, every three hours.
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And they cry and then they poop and you got
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to change them and And when they're crying, it's like, oh,
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you know, you just want them to go back to
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sleep or be quiet.
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And it was a pretty hard adjustment.
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I'm sorry, pretty hard adjustment physically, but even just mentally,
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you know, when you're that young of an age at 18.
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But I can.
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Honestly say, and I'm not sure if you're going to
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ask this, but I'm just going to mention it, that
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it probably was the best mistake.
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I ever made. Yeah. Uh, and I'm, and I can
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say that looking back now.
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Yeah. So what did your children teach you about resilience?
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Oh, okay. So I guess that that's kind of part
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of it.
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Um, my kids teaching me about resilience because I had
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no choice. Um, I'm pretty independent. I have an independent
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thinking and mindset. I don't like to depend on others.
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So because I took on that responsibility early on, it's like, okay,
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I have to do this. I have to do this.
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And it's not just for me, but even for the family, right?
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But there were times that It's very hard.
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You get impatient. You lose your patience.
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And... You.
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Just have to believe that you can do it.
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That really, I think, when all is said and done,
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that plays a big role in it.
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Because you can give up. And it's sad, you know,
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when or if that were to happen.
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But if.
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You know, there are ways you can overcome it together.
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Seeing them happy and grow up. And as the years
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go by, then you see, like, oh, my goodness, I
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can't believe I did that.
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I did that. So, yes, I.
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Can say that it's the biggest job. It's the hardest job.
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But it is so.
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It means so much in the end.
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Like you you there's nothing like it being able to
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play you did something yeah without getting paid.
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And we're back here with Ellie Jovin, cultural intelligence speaker, advocate,
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world traveler and AI strategist. All right. So, Ellie, you
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say that, you know, cultural intelligence can be a superpower.
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How can culture become a superpower?
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Well, I think it is because right now our world, even.
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Though we're so interconnected.
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We're And I mean that as in you can pretty much,
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anyone can communicate with anybody in the world.
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All you really need is internet connection, right? And some
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type of like phone, you know, or TV or radio.
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And you can talk and see and converse with anyone.
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I think now is a good time to realize that
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Even though we're so easily accessible to each other, there's
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still that shortage of understanding different cultures and being able
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to respect the differences. So that's why I say it's
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a superpower because we don't want to lose our heritage.
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you know can you imagine if you were forced to
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lose yours I mean that that is difficult right because
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that that's what we grew up with and our belief
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systems and.
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So being able to see.
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That in others and just able to respect that you
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know that yes we're different but we can still get
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along so yes it's a superpower and Now, with all
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the technology around us and AI, now it's even more
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critical that we keep that human connection going.
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Alright, so can a kid have cultural intelligence or is
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that something only adults learn?
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Oh, heck no.
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No, that is not only for adults. Please, if you
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are a kid, this is something I wish I had
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known growing up.
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You know what? I didn't even know there was such
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a thing until about five, six years ago. So I
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didn't even know that. What is cultural intelligence? Well, why
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is that even important? Right? Why is that even a thing? Um, yes,
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please be.
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It starts with just being aware first, you know, be
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aware of different people around you and, um, whether it's
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in school or even at the grocery store or restaurant, um,
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That diversity really is key. It's nice to be able
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to recognize that and at the same time respect and
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be respected.
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For our differences.
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All right, so you also work with AI. So for
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kids listening, what does an AI strategist do?
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Okay, so I will just keep it simple. So with AI,
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there's so many things. things they think people automatically think
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it's chat gpt or claude you know you can type
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in whatever you want and it'll tell you like all
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this stuff and you're suddenly like the the smartest person
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in the world with the strategist it goes to we
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can show you like It's not just, AI is not
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just that. There's so many other things AI can help
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with and do. Like maybe someday if you want to
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look into a job, right?
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And you need to make things easier for you.
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Those are some of the things that with AI strategists,
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because they're familiar with the different tools out there, then
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we can tell you or show you.
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Alright, so can AI understand culture the same way that
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humans do?
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I'm going to have to say that AI is continuously
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evolving right now.
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So even if I say no today, who knows? In
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six months, it could be completely different because AI is
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moving so fast.
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So I don't want to say that it can't. However,
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I will say that I really hope not. Because can
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you imagine.
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Oh, go ahead. Sorry.
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Hmm?
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Oh, were you going to say something?
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Yeah, I was just going to ask, like, how can
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families use AI without letting it take over everything?
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Okay, yeah, that's a good segue. With families, especially for
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young children, we're talking about, like, maybe under 10 years old, it.
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Communicate and let them know that AI, regardless, is a tool.
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It's almost like how our phone is a tool. It
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doesn't replace mom and dad or, you know, teacher or friend.
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please let's keep the human side going and that's why
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cultural intelligence is so important because we need to be
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able to maintain this human connection especially with this smart
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technology that is really just ones and zeros you know
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a machine yeah.
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All right well speaking of you know taking a break
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before ai starts writing all my homework let's you know
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take another quick break to pay my bills.
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And we're back here with the amazing Ellie Jovan. So Ellie,
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you have talked about helping people embrace their cultural identity
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as a strength. So what does that mean?
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Um, if you feel... So I think I'm going to
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go back a little bit on this one. So let's
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say you are the minority or you are the, whether
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it's immigrant or migrant, you know, you're new somewhere in
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the world. You're bringing with you your unique culture and heritage,
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whatever you grew up with, your history.
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Oftentimes when people.
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Move, they're in a new culture and there's new ways
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of doing things and we get challenged to like should
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we perform to the expectations of this new area or
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can I still be true to myself I think it's
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a balance You need to have that balance of being
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able to not lose your original self and what you
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believe in. At the same time, being open to learn
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about the new ways in your new country. Because what
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you may have done before may be seen as weird
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or rude now in the new culture.
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So that... Yes, you can remain true to yourself, but
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be aware of where you are as well. The new
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area you're in.
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So what advice would you give to a teen who
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feels embarrassed about their accent, their name, food, or family traditions?
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Oh gosh, no. Don't.
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Don't even be embarrassed. Be proud and be happy. Because
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a lot of kids, and I understand... Because I think
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I was one of that as well growing up. You know,
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I'm a little bit embarrassed and people would tease me like, oh,
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just because I spent two years in the Philippines and
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then go back to Guam, she's like, oh my gosh,
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she's this, you know, like coming from this area. Because,
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you know, Philippines at that time was still a.
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Third world country.
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And yet, even though I'm originally from Guam, Don't be
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ashamed or don't be embarrassed or don't be pressured. Please
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be your authentic self.
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All right. Well, do you have a website or like
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social media for my listeners who want to follow you?
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Yeah, I do.
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So I'm, oh gosh, your listeners, they're probably not on Facebook,
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but if... I'm on Instagram. I'm also on LinkedIn. I'm
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on Facebook. I do have a TikTok, guys.
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I mean, I'm on Facebook. Oh, you are? Yay! I am.
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Ellie Chauvin is on Facebook. I also have a YouTube,
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but it's not really... It doesn't really have anybody in.
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There, honestly.
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Neither does mine. Huh? Neither is mine.
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I'm starting to build it up. So, yeah, there you go.
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I'm excited. And I also launched an app on cultural intelligence, Tiberius. Yes!
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Oh my gosh, you have to check it out.
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Well, what is that one question that you think I
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forgot to ask you?
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I think you forgot to ask me, where am I
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going to next?
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Well, what is it?
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Okay.
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In less than 24 hours I am on a flight
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to get to Rome, Italy. So I have a cruise
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coming up and then.
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After from there I go also to Croatia.
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I have a stop in Croatia and I have a
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stop in Montenegro and then after that I fly to London.
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And this is in less than 12 hours, in less
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than 24 hours. That's why I was a little frantic
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today because I'm packing and my son is trying to
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move his stuff to storage. And then I had this
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interview with you and I'm like, oh my goodness, why?
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That's hilarious. Okay. Well, thank you, Ellie, for being my
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special guest. Can you stick around for Math Corners?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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What is that?
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Math Corners? Next segment.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Math, math. Let's do math.
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Tiberius' favorite subject, it's Math Corners!
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And now it's time for Math Corners. Thank you so much, Ellie,
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for helping me with Math Corners. And this week, we're
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going to talk about multiple word problems. Since, you know,
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you teach people about cultural intelligence and AI, I thought
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it would be fun to do a problem about translating
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messages for a school international festival. Alright? So, a school
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is using AI to help make welcome signs for an
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international festival. There are six languages, and each language needs
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four welcome signs to put around the school. Each sign
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takes three minutes to create, print, and check for mistakes.
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Then the students spend 20 extra minutes arranging all the
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signs around the school. So how many total minutes does
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it take to create, check, and arrange all of the
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welcome signs?
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Can I use a calculator?
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It's okay. I got it. I got it. Well, first,
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this is a real world problem because when people communicate
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across cultures, they have to make sure the message is clear, respectful,
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and correct. AI can help, but humans still need to
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check it. So first, let's figure out how many total
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signs the students need. There are 6 languages, and each
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language needs 4 signs, so 6 times 4 is 24 signs.
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That was pretty easy. Now we have to figure out
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how long it takes to create and check all of
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24 signs. Each sign takes 3 minutes. So 24 signs
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times 3 minutes is... 72 minutes. But we're not done yet,
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because the students also spend 20 minutes arranging the signs
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around the school. So we add that to the 72 minutes,
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which is 92 minutes. So it's a little over an
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hour and a half, but it sounds like a really
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cool festival. So Ellie, when people use AI to translate
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or create messages, why is it important to, you know,
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why is it still important for a real person to
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check the meaning of tone?
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Oh my goodness. That is so important.
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Um, you know when you ever get like those text
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messages that say something and then you react we all
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react to it a certain way and then we respond
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and then the other person reacts to it like and
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then you finally get on the phone together and you're
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like but that's not what i meant that's not how
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i meant.
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To sound how i meant it that's not yeah.
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All right, well, thank you, Ellie, for your help with
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Math Corners.
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We need humans.
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And now it's time for the Heart of the Lion.
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As you know, we talk about the qualities of living
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by the Heart of the Lion, which stands for leadership, integrity, obedience,
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and ability. Well, this week, we're going to talk about integrity.
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For me, I think integrity is doing what is right
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when no one else is looking. the qualities of integrity
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are honesty, sincerity, truthfulness, and fairness. So the other night,
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I was practicing my driving. Since I'm learning and I
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got my learner's permit, every minute behind the wheel helps
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me get better. I was working on, you know, staying
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in my lane, checking my mirrors, turning smoothly, you know,
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remembering that the brake pedal was not on an off switch,
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you know, like, yeah, like reversing really, really fast on accident,
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almost like hitting something. But, you know, little things like
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not making everybody in the car feel like they're riding
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a roller coaster. Sorry, Dad. But there was one important rule.
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Practice driving had to stop at by 10 p.m. Now,
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I could have kept going. The road was quiet. I
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was doing a good job. And honestly, I probably could
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have gotten away with, you know, a little more driving time.
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No one was standing there with a stopwatch saying, Tiberius,
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step away from the steering wheel. But I knew the rule.
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I also knew that integrity is not, you know, is
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not about what you can get away with. It's about,
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you know, choosing when nobody's forcing you. So when I
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got close to 10 p.m., I stopped practicing driving, drove home.
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It wasn't really hard. It was a little bit. But
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did I want more time? Definitely. But I also knew
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that being trusted with something as serious as driving means
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proving I can follow the rules even when I have
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the chance not to. But driving's not just about knowing
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when to turn the wheel. It's about responsibility. If my
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parents trust me to practice, then I need to show
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them that I can be trusted. If the rule is
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stop at 10 p.m., then stopping at 10 p.m. is
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the right thing to do. That is integrity. Doing the
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right thing because it's right, not because someone else is watching.
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So Ellie, do you have an example of integrity that
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you saw this week?
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That I saw?
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Mm-hmm.
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That I saw.
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With your own two eyes.
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With my own two eyes. Okay, so I've been going
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to the gym more recently because I finally have the
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time to.
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Log in my actual time and whatever, what I'm doing.
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I think when I'm thinking of integrity, I'm putting in
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the actual time and not more than what I was
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really working out because I guess that's kind of like cheating.
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So, and I did do that.
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So I wait until we actually start and then that's
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when I press the timer on.
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it off.
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Not after I gather all my things and I'm already
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walking out the door. I don't wait for that. It's
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as soon as it's done, then I go and stop it.
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So it's recording the time of my workout correctly. And
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I don't have to do that, but, you know, I
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will because I want to see that what I'm putting
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in is really what is working for.
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My body and I want to be true to my body.
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I want to be true to my mind as well
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so yeah I think that's an example of integrity.
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All right we should always try to rely on strong
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in everything we do shouldn't.
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We yes yes definitely.
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And that's our show, folks. I want to thank the one,
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the only, the amazing Ellie Joven for being on my show.
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It has been so much fun talking to you today.
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I think we learned a lot about your work in
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cultural intelligence and artificial intelligence.
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Thank you, Tiberius, and thank you guys for having me
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here today. I just learned your last name was Boy,
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the real last name. I thought it was just a
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name for online.
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It's my real last name. Congratulations.
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And I'm thanking you for having me on your show.
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And do you mind giving your social media or website again?
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Yes, so my social media on Facebook.
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Is Ellie Joven, spelled exactly the way it is. And
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then my.
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Own TikTok, you know, I forget if my TikTok is
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also my real name.
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I believe it is.
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And then I also do have an Instagram with my
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real name as well, Ellie underscore Joven.
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Yeah.
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Well, you can also find me on Facebook and Instagram
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at The Diabetes Show. And I would like to thank WWPR,
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410 AM, Canton 98, Soul Radio, 24-7, Easy Way TV,
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and all the other stations that air on my show.
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And please be sure to visit our show on YouTube
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and hit that subscribe button. And Ellie, are you subscribed yet?
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I believe so, but I will double check again one
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more time.
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All right. And this week, C.A. Lopez says hearts, hearts
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and more hearts. And Helso C. says pie song is
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so good for school. Thanks. Well, you know, you're welcome.
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And I'm so glad that people still enjoy the pie
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song after eight years of it being out there. And
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I'm sure, you know, it will be a blast. And also,
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be sure to leave a comment on my videos, and
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I may even mention yours at the end of the show.
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And also, be sure to see us next time on
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