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And it's disingenuous. It doesn't go to the issues that
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are affecting New York.
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Which is why it was so, by the way, which
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was why it was so important that he said, guess what?
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Donald Trump didn't raise your utilities 48 times. That was
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the line.
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Betsy's not. That was a great line. I want to
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be clear.
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So I happen to be a Democrat. I've been a
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Democrat my entire life. Like so many people that are
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right now on social media doing those TikTok videos and
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YouTube videos. I'm a Democrat, and I am voting for
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Bruce Blakeman because Kathy Hochul is a disaster.
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And you know what? Also, all the women listening tonight
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who have brothers or sons or nephews or grandsons going
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to college, listen to Kathy Hochul automatically assume that the
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woman in college was raped, that she's a survivor, and
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that the boys are guilty. Boys deserve a fair trial
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just like girls do.
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I also thought it was a knockout punch when he
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said to her, You are a trustee. You are a trustee.
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And her answer.
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And a board member.
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And a board member, right.
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And you know what was interesting, John?
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Silence. You could hear she was like, she really was
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not ready for that moment. And he was like, don't
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you bear responsibility. If you're criticizing the university, you're part
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of the university.
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And you know, that university handed out.
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And the agricultural school. These are huge state schools, part
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of Cornell University. This is the state's responsibility, which is why,
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by the way, this is such a political hot potato.
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If this were a totally private school, I promise you,
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there would be no special prosecution.
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And you know, Cornell.
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Handed out this literature to these kids. Cornell handed out
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the literature to these kids.
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Go ahead, Betsy McCoy.
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Cornell handed out literature to these kids asking them whether
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they want to do threesome sex Sex with toys, sex
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with this, sex with this. I don't even want to
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say it all on WABC radio.
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No, no, no, please keep going. Michael, go get a
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magazine letter. Our ratings are.
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Starting to go up.
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The college is teaching these young kids all these kinds
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of sex they can have. Do you want your kids
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going to a college that does that?
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And then they want to pretend they're Queen Victoria when
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something else goes on.
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Everybody here.
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So let's get back to the debate. Betsy, do you
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think that that was a powerful moment for Bruce Blakeman
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in the debate?
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Absolutely a powerful movement because the buck stops with the governor.
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She is the trustee. She ought to know what's going
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on at that college. And instead, she's just taking the
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politically correct avenue, siding with the woman, the survivor.
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How much do you think it is also the fact, look,
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she's doing these energy rebate checks, of course, surprise, surprise,
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right before the election. She's supporting, quote, young women right
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before the election. I mean, so much of the timing.
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Of all this, Betsy, you know it too well. What
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about the timing of bringing Tish James into this?
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Right, right.
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I mean, does anybody not believe that this is all
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politically motivated?
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Listen, I cover the Ivy League universities extensively in my
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own journalistic work. This was a known incident on Cornell's
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campus two years ago. This is not something that she
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just found out about, and now I want to get
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to the bottom of it. This was a known incident.
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It was covered in the Cornell Daily Sun. It was
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discussed online. So she had ample opportunity to say, wait
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a minute, the Tompkins County prosecutor didn't want to.
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Do something about this?
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She could have picked up the phone and called him
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and said, what's going on here? So the fact that
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she's only doing it now after it made the headlines
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nationally should be a major, major red flag. Forget about
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protecting boys' rights. If you really do think that this
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woman was victimized, you should.
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Be even angrier.
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Angry at Kathy Hochul because she just made it harder
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for that girl to get justice.
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Well, I think Rita's going to ask him to replay something.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. You guys, I believe we have our
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crew standing by.
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We did the Cornell.
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Actually, we have another clip on sanctuary cities. This is
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a whole different one that came out. So hopefully our
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group is back there listening. Let's play that, guys.
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So, Governor Hochul, under your sanctuary policies, a 14-year-old girl
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was raped recently here in New York State by an
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illegal migrant. Four Irondequoit residents were killed recently by an
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illegal migrant. Two of those victims were children under the
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age of five. Two Nassau County women in their 30s
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were killed by an illegal migrant because of your sanctuary policies.
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Will you apologize to that 14-year-old girl whose life is
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forever changed and her family, and the families of those
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who were killed, the ones that'll never get to sit
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at another Thanksgiving dinner, never be able.
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To open their presents.
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On their Christmas tree, will you apologize to them, and
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will you please return Sheridan Gorman's parents' calls to talk
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to you about your sanctuary policy?
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You know, any crime is.
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Heartbreaking.
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There's a family left with a huge whole in their heart.
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And I abhor all crimes, regardless of the perpetrator. Victims
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deserve our sympathy. They deserve our compassion. And that's why
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I've laser focused on making New York so much more
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safer than it had been before.
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I have spent.
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$ 4 billion to help law enforcement do their jobs. We
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have driven down crime to historic lows, especially violent crimes
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like shootings. and murders, and that didn't come easy. That
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took a lot of work. I've had to change laws.
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I've had to allocate more money. But when you're talking
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about ICE, what I find so shocking.
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Is that when an American mother was murdered.
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By ICE agents, you said, that her killing was justified.
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The killing of Renee Good was justified. And when asked
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about Alex Pretty, another American citizen killed by ICE, whether
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that was justified, you couldn't even answer the question. So
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I find those answers just reprehensible.
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So you won't apologize?
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I apologize for any pain that has happened to anyone.
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You won't apologize?
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This is just a cross-examination.
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You won't call Sheridan Gorman's parents?
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That's the question and that's the answer. That was interesting.
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That's the question. That's the answer.
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In other words, a non-answer.
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What'd you think of that, Michael Cohen? You're right. It's
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a complete non-answer.
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She has her scripted lines and she's going to stay
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with them. You could have asked her. What's the weather outside?
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And she was going to answer the same scripted line.
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It's all Donald Trump's fault.
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Well, you know, it was similar during the AG debate.
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Did you see that? You know, we were talking about
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it earlier.
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It was like, like Letitia James had her sort of
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canned line and it was, and.
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Even the moderator is like, don't you want to elaborate?
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No.
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I mean, she said that a couple of times. That
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was an interesting moment.
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They can't articulate, you know, I love this idea that like, well,
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since they're American citizens and, who were killed in the
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act of trying to kill other Americans who were trying
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to do law enforcement. You know, Charles Manson was an
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American citizen. So was Lee Harvey Oswald. So was John
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Wilkes Booth. Should we cry over them? These are blatant criminals, murderers.
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I mean, honestly, this is the... I mean, the level
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of contempt....
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No, no, no.
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I think what we really have to look at here,
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and we talked about it earlier in the program, is
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the number of those who have been detained and deported
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by ICE versus the.
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Very small number.
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And my heart goes out to Alex Preddy's family and
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to Renee Nicole Good's family. I don't want to see
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anybody killed. Of course nobody does. And if the officer,
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if the ICE agent did something wrong, accountability needs to occur.
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I think it's four. It's four casualties. Six, seven, whatever
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the number may be. Hundreds of thousands of engagements. It's
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a heck of a record. It sure is.
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And the point is, that's not the response that Kathy
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Hochul should have made. America is safer because we are
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deporting bad people.
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Let me get Judge Weinberg in.
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Judge Weinberg.
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You have federal law, which should be enforced. Enforcing federal law,
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keeping borders intact, make sure we have a sovereign country,
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a safe country. Biden let in hundreds of thousands, millions
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of people. They flew in in the middle of the
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night to Westchester. You ever hear a local say anything
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about the Biden administration?
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Anywhere from 10 million to 20 million. We don't know
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what the real number is.
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We don't know because they're gotaways.
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We don't even know who they are.
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They're out of the jails. They're out of the cartels.
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They're out of the mental institutions. How does that make
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this country safer? And ICE is doing its job trying
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to protect the American people. Will it be an unfortunate instance?
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Yes.
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But maybe, just maybe, when you're in a car and
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you're confronted by an ICE agent, maybe the best thing
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to do is to not hit the— Yes.
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Right. And especially according to reports that the guy was stopped,
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that they were trying to get him before. So it's like,
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you know what's coming.
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They know they're coming for you.
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Right, exactly. You know what.
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The glaring omission in this debate was? And it's so
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important to all the parents who are listening. including immigrant parents,
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because education is the one avenue to advancement for all
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of our kids and grandkids. Not one question about the
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school system. And Hochul is so guilty on that. They're
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eliminating regents' diplomas for high school graduates. They're lowering the
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standards so much there are no standards anymore.
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Well, you know why?
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Because they only had an hour because she would only
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agree to a one-hour debate, Betsy. I mean, the fact that,
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and you guys brought this up before, I think it's
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a really powerful point. How can you, on such an
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important time right now, important issues like education, there were
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a number of other ones I saw that were not included,
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but in fairness.
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To New York One, you only have an hour. She
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only gave them an hour, Betsy.
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That's right.
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What a disservice to New Yorkers and everybody out there listening.
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Listen, just to get back to the ice thing.
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If ice were a major league pitcher, its ERA would
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be 0.003.
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With a whip of negative five. Their numbers are incredible.
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But you know the problem is, Jake, the DSA, who
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she has been beholden to in many ways, have said,
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even if you committed serious crimes, we want to keep
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you here.
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That's right.
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That's the lunacy.
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Listen, this goes back to the Leviathan by Thomas Hobbes,
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our great political theorist of the 16th, 17th, and 18th century.
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When the leader of a country, when the king literally says,
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I'm not going to protect you, that is the one
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time you have the right to be a rebel.
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The fact is you have no legitimacy to govern. That's right.
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This is Hobbesian type stuff that I thought when I
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was in college would never really happen.
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But let's go back to the debate. Do you think
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he made an effective case to that point? I think, again,
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that number– I keep going back to the– that you
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spent $ 8 billion.
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Nice round number. That was a great– Yeah, that's all
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I remember. Except we're going to all– Yeah, exactly.
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We at this table are all going to sit and
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listen to the questions.
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We're going to respond.
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Our personal opinions, I believe– Again, 90-10, Blakeman won this debate,
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hands down.
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And will it matter?
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Will it matter, Jake?
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That's a good question.
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You are going to see, and I'm going to say
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it again, the chyrons, all of the far left and
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the even left of center news outlets are going to
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be talking about how she attacked Blakeman as being a
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Donald Trump puppet.
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I mean.
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Who here hasn't seen that stupid commercial about the guy
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with the puppeteer?
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And Michael, hold that thought, because we have a chunk
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now here. This is her doing sort of a, quote,
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cross-examination on Trump.
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Exactly what you're talking about. This just came in, you guys.
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Take a listen, everyone. And now, Ms. Hochul, you have
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a question for Bruce Blakeman.
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Yes, I do.
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Yes, I do.
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Just four days ago, you stood on a stage screaming
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at the top of your lungs, we love Donald Trump.
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You've also said he's the greatest president of your lifetime. Now,
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which is it that makes him so great? Is it
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the high utility costs, the high grocery costs, the high
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gas costs? Is it his unfettered use of ICE terrorizing
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our neighborhoods?
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Is it his throwing millions of New Yorkers off of healthcare?
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Which is it that makes him the greatest president, in
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your opinion, which you have said so many times?
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Yeah, well, at a rally, as you know, it's a
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cheering section, and you say things to get the crowd
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worked up. And I think Donald Trump deserves accolades for
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many of the things.
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That he's done.
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Obviously, there are some disagreements in New York State with
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some of his policies. But I've differed with Donald Trump
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on various policies. As I said, he's pro-life.
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I'm pro-choice.
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That's a big difference in the Republican Party.
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I stood up for what I believed in.
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Immigration policy, I believe that if you are an immigrant
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and you've been in this state seven, eight, nine, 10 years,
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you haven't gotten in trouble, you're gainfully employed, we should
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have a guest worker permit for you. I believe in
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a guest worker permit program. But you know, there's two years.
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Left in Donald Trump's tenure in office, and I.
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Hope to see great things like stopping Iran from getting
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a nuclear weapon that threatens New York and all New Yorkers.
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And I also look forward to.
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The fact that hopefully we will get gas prices down
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But you created the economic issues that have made us
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last in economic outlook, Kathy Hochul, not Donald Trump.
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I agree that Donald Trump is the greatest president of
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his lifetime.
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I didn't hear anything disputing that.
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Well, you know what?
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Let me say this. In retrospect, I would say that
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Dwight D.
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Eisenhower was the greatest president, but Donald Trump has two
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more years.
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So let's see where it goes. Term's not over.
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Well, heaven help us.
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Wow.
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What did you think, Michael Cohen? You know, something interesting.
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I was just... Not only did they not talk about
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Israel at all, there was really nothing about Mamdani either
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at that point in terms of the problems that.
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New York City is facing. They didn't really have a
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solid question.
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At least not in this area that we've played so far.
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I was going to say, at least not.
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Got it. Got it. We'll see. Now, what did you think?
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I thought it was an interesting answer. And Jake and
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I were talking earlier about Bruce Blakeman saying I'm pro-choice.
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A lot of people didn't know that.
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We knew it.
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But a lot of people didn't know that. And I
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think that was an interesting moment saying I'm not necessarily
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Trump's puppet.
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Right, Betsy McCormick?
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I'd like all the upstaters to see that Bruce Blakeman
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is not abandoning them. Kathy Hochul has abandoned upstate New York.
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She took billions of dollars and gave it all to
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New York City for pre-K for two-year-olds when it's the
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kids upstate that are the victims of such dire childhood poverty.
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Why didn't she spend that money? She was too busy
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spending it on migrants. We already heard it tonight.
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This is an important preview to what I've been urging
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Republicans to do throughout the country. And I hate to
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use this term, but every time there's a story about
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all this money going to illegal migrants and the news
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media tries to drum up sympathy for them, Republicans need to,
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and I'm sorry to use this term, Republicans need to
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trot out a poor veteran, preferably African-American one, poor legal
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immigrant families. who don't have a decent education opportunity in
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their neighborhoods. Because the only true systematic racism in America
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is our education system.
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That's systematic racism.
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As chairman of the Police Athletic League that takes care
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of 20, 25,000 inner circle kids. What would you rather
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spend the money on?
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Of course.
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Eight billion dollars. Right, hands down.
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Eight billion dollars in migrants that just crossed your border uninvited?
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Or eight billion dollars on the veterans living in the
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streets of New York and 20 suicides?
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We need visuals, John.
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So this is a great point that you've made.
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You've got to say that surrounded by some of those kids,
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surrounded by some of their parents. It has to be visual.
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I want to see– and I know that there's some
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theater to this, and I know there's some exploitation to it.
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I get it.
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Don't call me and say, what do you do? But
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literally bring them on stage and say, this is John Anderson.
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He fought in Vietnam. He's 81 years old right now.
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He's sick. He can't get his meds. But the illegal
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immigrant in the project next to him has a $ 500
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gift card every week that he gets. Well, you know what?
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Here's one better.
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Actually, what I think needs to happen, Jake, after this,
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if I were Bruce Blakeman, I'd be putting out the ad,
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$ 8 billion, and then I'd have real people saying, I
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wish I could have had that money to help my family.
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I was a New York City sanitation worker for 50 years.
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How about putting the migrants at the Roosevelt Hotel at
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$ 400 a night?
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And three meals a day.
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And they didn't like the food there. By the way,
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you guys, we've got to take a quick break.
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We are going to be right back.
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Things are getting heated, and that's why we love it
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here on 77 WABC. We are back here live on
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77 WABC, the one and only debate between Governor Kathy
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Hochul and Bruce Blakeman. We are playing the highlights, and
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we're analyzing it. It's the best analysis anywhere. We have
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Jake Novak with me, Rita Cosby, of course. John Katsimatidis,
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Judge Richard Weinberg, Michael Cohen, and also Betsy McCoy. And
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we're so thrilled to have all of you guys here.
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Before we go, let's play this clip here. This just
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came in. And again, we want to thank all of
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our friends there at New York One who did a
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great job in Spectrum.
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Here it is.
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They're going back and forth on public safety and crime
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in New York State.
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Take a listen.
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We're going to move on to something we definitely need
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to talk about, which is public safety. By multiple measures,
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crime in our state has fallen to the lowest level
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in decades. New York City recently experienced its safest summer
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on record for shooting incidents, shooting victims, and murders. Of course,
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other forms of crime and disorder, including auto theft, assaults,
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and hate crimes, have remained stubbornly high. What's the solution?
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What do you think is working and what isn't working?
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And let's start with you, Mr.
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Blakeman.
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Well, first of all, she'll never give Donald Trump any
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accolades for sealing our borders. Maybe that's why the shootings
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are down. Maybe that's why all the fentanyl deaths are down,
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not by anything that you did.
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But let me say this about crime.
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If you walk into any CVS or Walgreens and you
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want to buy a bottle of shampoo, in Kathy Hochul's world,
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you got to ring a buzzer, a store clerk has
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to come out, unlock a glass door for you to
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buy a bottle of shampoo in New York State. It's
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because we have a revolving door of criminality, cashless bail,
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raise the age, the HALT Act. And you talk about militias?
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You're the only one on this stage that has a militia.
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You have two, the National Guard and the State Guard.
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And you have the National Guard at the cost of
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a billion dollars a year to the taxpayers because you
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fired corrections officers who said these prisons are not only
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safe for corrections officers, they're not safe for the prisoners.
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And you fired them and put the National Guard in there.
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You're the one that used the militia, not me.
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Do people know that his crime.
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Fighters have been let out? She and the other governors
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are responsible for people who are on the parole board.
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while they're laying out cop killers.
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Yeah, how many cop killers?
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43.
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And they want to now change the law so at 55,
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at 55, anybody on parole has to get an automatic
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hearing every year or every two years to determine whether
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they should keep them in because maybe they're too old
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to stay in jail. So that means that the families
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of the victims have to come back year after year
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after year to plead their heart out to keep the
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savage in who destroyed their family by killing a loved one.
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To relive that trauma.
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That's her record.
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Guys, I'm not buying these crime statistics because if you're
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a wealthy New Yorker living in the nicer neighborhoods, crime
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is probably not that great.
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Here's a headline.
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These crimes happen and the victims are almost always minorities
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in communities and neighborhoods where reporting crimes... It's not smiled upon, okay?
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This is one of the things about cash bail. To
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the radical left, rich, limousine liberal types, they think they're
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sticking it to the man by bringing these poor people
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out of jail. Yes, minorities are five times more likely
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to be arrested for a crime.
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News for you.
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They're 12 times more likely to be the victim of
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a crime. What kind of lunatic cares more about column
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A than column B?
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Not me. Because column B is what I'm worried about.
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The victims of crime.
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Absolutely.
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And I'm telling you right now, crime is not significantly
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down in New York. When there's a crime in some
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of these tougher neighborhoods in New York, they're not reporting.
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They're not reporting. They're not reporting. That's exactly the point.
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Because they'll get killed if they get reported.
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That's exactly the point. And to your point, that they
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also changed the categorizing of it.
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I mean, that's the other thing, and you know that
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all too well, Ben.
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You understand that the state of New York is the
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only state where a sitting judge cannot hold in a
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defendant based on his propensity for violence and threats of
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public safety.
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By the way, Judge, let's go back to the Oscar
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Bregal case, because everybody knows about this guy. Never should
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have even been out. He had violated his probation. This
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is the illegal migrant, of course, with the ICE-involved shooting.
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He never should have been out. If you look at
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his rap sheet, it's a mile long. And then you've
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got people like Kevin or Kathy Hochul and Mondani calling
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him a wonderful guy, a.
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Neighbor, Oscar.
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Oscar, Oscar's an alleged gang member.
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That's Oscar. He's not our neighbor. Right, he's not our neighbor.
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I'd rather have Oscar the Grouch as a neighbor than Oscar.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Oscar the Grouch would be a very good man.
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I'll take the garbage over the gang any day of
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the week.
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Take your five-year-old to a violent resist arrest day at work.
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You guys, we have another clip and I want to
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play this because this was another important topic, of course,
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about anti-Semitism in New York and who has cracked down
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on it. And here's a little bit of Bruce Blakeman
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talking about Mondani and anti-Semitism.
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Take a listen, everyone.
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Mr.
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Blakeman, audio obtained by The New York Times shows you Mr.
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Blakeman told attendees at a Hasidic event that, quote.
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If there is rioting here.
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If they're burning down yeshivas in your shuls and burning
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down your house and raping your women, you think Zoran
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Mamdani is going to stop them?
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First of all, who exactly were you referring to, the they?
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And do you stand by those remarks?
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So first of all.
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They are the professional protesters that took over Columbia University,
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that blocked our bridges and our roadways with the lawlessness
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that took place. While Kathy Hochul wouldn't protect Jewish students
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at Columbia University, Jews who are being attacked all around
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our state, Zoran Mandami is an anti-Semite. The first thing
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he did as mayor, with all the issues that face
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New York City, the first thing he did was signed
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an executive order to water down the definition of anti-Semitism.
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Shame on you, Mayor.
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You are campaigning around the state with a guy who
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doesn't believe in American values. He talks about collectivism. That
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means you take personal property rights away. You take other
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people's property rights. This is a guy that's anti-Christian. Couldn't
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find an hour out of his day to... Installation of
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a new archbishop here in New York City, the biggest
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religion in the city of New York. Look, if you
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want to campaign with him, that's fine. But I will
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tell you right now, I think Zoram Andami is an anti-Semite.
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I believe he's anti-Christian, and I don't think he has
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American values.
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I'm actually going to answer your question, since you asked
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about the conversation he had at a secret meeting, where
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he basically said that NYPD, under the leadership of Jessica
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Tisch— would not respond to this neighborhood if there were
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women being raped and people being murdered and riots in
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the streets. He didn't said he would not trust them
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to show up. I stand with the men and women
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in blue every day of the week. I know how
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hard they work. They put their lives on the line.
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and I support the leadership of Jessica Tisch, but for
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you to say that they would stand down is just
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insulting all those men and women.
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Well, first of all, let's put it, let's call it
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the way it is. I'm talking about political leaders getting
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involved in law enforcement when they shouldn't be, like what
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happened under David Dinkins when he waited three days before
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he stopped the rioting in Crown Heights. I have A
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lot of confidence in Jessica Tish. As a matter of fact,
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if there's a compliment I could give to Zoran Mondami,
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it's in keeping her as the police commissioner.
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But let's be clear.
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Let's move on.
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Anti-Semitism is on the rise and it's occurred under your
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watch and Zoran Mondami is fueling it.
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Listening to that clip. She did not say anything about
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Zora Mundani, and also the moderator in that case didn't
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press her.
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That's extremely disappointing. Huge assist from the moderator there. Yeah,
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huge assist from the moderator.
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You and I, our jaws just dropped, Jake, because it
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was like, okay, let's move on.
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It should have been, what's.
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Your answer to him calling Zora Mundani an anti-Semite? I
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think that's where she should have pressed that moderator.
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He clearly was an anti-Semite, and so was AOC, and...
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Kathy Hochul has been campaigning all across the state with AOC.
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She has moved very far leftward. And everybody voting in
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this election should know this is not the same Kathy
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Hochul who ran four years ago.
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And she should have been pressed to have to respond
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about Mondani just like she keeps pressing about Donald Trump. Right.
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You know, on the flip side.
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The moderator, I agree, Jake.
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The moderator gave it.
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Steered it again.
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Yes, steered it again. That was disgraceful of that.
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Moderator, that female moderator.
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You know, I got to tell you, because we weren't
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able to livestream this and we were just basically going
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to go ahead and listen to it afterwards... I have
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to tell you, I wish that we had a chance
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to listen and watch it in real time because what
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I intend to do on my show, which is coming
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up on Sunday when you know.
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I think we've heard of it. You know, you know, right?
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I plan on doing literally a full breakdown.
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I'm going to watch this thing and I'm going to
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do a full breakdown on literally this entire debate, pulling
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it apart piece by piece. And I'm going to keep
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doing this. every day until the election.
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Because this is a very important debate.
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It's enormously important. And you know what?
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The moderator is an important aspect of this. And as
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someone who's moderated debates, that moderator should have not passed
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on that topic. It was a very important point. He
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boxed her in.
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And she started it.
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The moderator started it by talking about this event at
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the Hasidic gathering.
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Yes, yes.
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So she was bailing on her own narrative there, her
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own track.
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You know, look, as a Jewish graduate of Columbia University,
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let me remind everybody that the last two topics that
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Rita brought to us are absolutely related. This is going
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to shock a lot of you listening. Anti-Semitism has nothing
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to do with the Jews. Anti-Semitism is the first line
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of a war against civilization and.
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Law and order.
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You start with the Jews because if you commit violence
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against them, you will get the least pushback.
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But it's like the movie The Purge. So that's why.
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It's got nothing to do with what Jews do or
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don't do.
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People should be good because they want to be good
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enough because you're trying to keep the anti-Semites happy.
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That's not what's going on here.
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So when New York, under Andrew Cuomo and then continued
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by Hochul, started with the bail stuff, started.
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With the emptying the jail stuff, I knew.
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I knew in my bones that anti-Semitism would rise because
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anti-Semitism and crime are married at the hip. And when
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you see this kind of stuff going on, you got
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to be worried. You got to be worried because that's
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what it's about. It's about I want to live in
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a society where I don't get in trouble for doing
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all this bad stuff. So you start with the easiest
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group to get no pushback.
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Let's go to some breaking news, you guys.
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We got a breaking news sounder here. If not, here
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is Breaking News 7.
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All right.
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So we've got Suzanne Miller with some breaking news.
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Go ahead, Suzanne. They're just coming in. So clearly, Blakeman
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knocked it out of the park.
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He had so many more responses, and he seems so
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much more— prepared and he's at 840. There's no confirmed
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winner of tonight's debate. New York Post is the only
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periodical that said that he won.
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ABC, no winner.
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New York 12 reports that it was a tie.
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No verified debate winner. What did I tell you? What
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did I tell you was going to happen?
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Exactly.
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I told it in advance. It was clear. Everybody knew
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this was going to happen.
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The fix was in.
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The fix was in.
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That's a win. ABC says it's a tie. They're all
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saying it's a tie. There's no winner. That's a huge
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win for Blake.
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But not enough. Let's be honest, you guys.
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That's like the East German judge saying that, you know.
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But Jake, Jake, that is not enough. That's the problem.
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The problem is he needs a knockout punch.
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And I think he did a great job yesterday.
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Let's see what the voters think.
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Yeah, that is right. That's the true test. You guys,
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we're going to go to a quick break, and we
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will be right back as we continue our action-packed coverage
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here on 77 WABC. And we are continuing now here
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on our action-packed coverage on 77 WABC, the only debate. And, Suzanne,
657
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right before you were also telling us the breaking news
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that the media is saying that it was, I guess,
659
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a draw, except for New York Post, who says that
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Blakeman won.
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The source of all truth.
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Right. Exactly.
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But we're waiting. We're trying to get John McLaughlin right
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now because it'd be interesting to get his take on,
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to your point, on what are the voters thinking.
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There's usually a poll of people who watch it. They
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usually get a group of people. Exit polls. The exit polls.
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Yeah, like a focus group of the equal number or whatever,
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a proportionate number of Democrats.
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Republicans and independents.
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Right.
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What are the voters thinking? If we don't get a
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poll like that coming out in the next hour or so.
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then you'll know they probably suppressed the number.
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I'd like to know what upstate potential voters think, because
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that's where Blakeman is going to win or lose this.
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He's ahead 10 points.
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I'd like to know.
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What New York City thinks.
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He ought to be ahead 90 points.
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I'd like to know what New York City thinks.
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He's 34% to win.
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Exactly, of the city.
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That's right. 34% of the city vote.
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How do we know how many people actually watched it?
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We'll find out.
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We'll get the numbers. We'll get the numbers. Let's go,
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you guys.
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We've got a lightning round right here. This is cut
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number eight. This is a lightning round, sort of a
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wrap-up of the debate. Let's listen to this. This is
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with Hochul and Bruce Blakeman.
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Take a listen.
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We're going to go to a lightning round now.
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Okay.
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Will you reopen Indian Point Nuclear Power.
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Plant, Kathy Hochul?
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I'm bringing nuclear to New York State at a scale
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this country has not seen in 30 years. And I'm
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just waiting for approval and I can do it. I
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have eight communities that want it. I have eight communities
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that want to host it. I'm ready to go.
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I'm just waiting for Washington to green light it.
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Yes or no or short answer. Bruce Blakeman, will you
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reopen Indian Point?
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I believe we should open Indian Point.
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I believe we should open up the other power plants
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that Kathy Hochul has closed.
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I believe we should extract.
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Natural gas from the Marcellus Shale. More energy increases the
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supply and lowers your costs.
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Mr.
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Blakeman, have you ever used a mail-in ballot?
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Not to my knowledge.
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Ms.
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Hochul.
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I don't remember absentee when I was out of the area,
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but I don't think it was mail-in. I like to
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go in person. I really like to exercise my right
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to vote in person.
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Ms.
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Hochul, should the state label at least one bathroom in
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the Capitol complex as gender neutral?
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Yes.
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Bruce Blakeman.
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Well, first of all, I don't believe that biological males.
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They tip this election. You know, older voters tend to
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vote at a much higher rate.
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I know we've had a few elections in the last
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decade or so where younger people have come out in
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bigger numbers than usual.
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But older voters, especially in midterm elections.
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Come out at a much higher rate. And every snowbird
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who's voting here in New York who might be sticking
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around to vote or voted absentee.
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That pied-a-terre tax is a huge issue.
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Now, by the way, I want to read some of
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the headlines coming out from the New York Post. First,
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they're saying Blakeman attacks Hochul for dropping the ball on
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the Cornell 7 probe, like we talked about with the
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trustee issue where she had no answer. He said, shame
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on you. The other one, this is interesting. We hadn't
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talked about this yet. Blakeman scares Hochul for the past
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remark on black Bronx kids not knowing what computers are.
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Remember when she went after it and said.
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Like, you know, they don't know what a computer is.
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That was an I think that's an interesting moment to
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sort of to your point.
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Yeah.
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I mean, why was that, by the way, something that
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she would bring up? It's she's been the.
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Governor for five and a half, five and a half years.
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This is incredible when people are in office, incumbents start
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blasting the status quo. I don't understand this at all.
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I mean, how stupid do these people think the voters are?
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She's been the governor. Whatever the situation in New York
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is now that you don't like, this is on her
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whether she's directly responsible or not.
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That's the way it works. She's trying to divert it
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to Trump. I get that. But it's not working. It's
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why I told you she's dumb.
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Well, and here's the big headline. RNC often puts out
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sort of what they think are the headlines, okay? And
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they said Kathy Hochul giving her taxpayer dollars to criminal
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illegal aliens, like we were talking about with John Katsimatidis earlier,
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that they believe the line of the night was you
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are paying illegal migrants with our taxpayer dollars, $ 8 billion
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for free food, free housing, free transportation.
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You want to get unemployment.
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You want to give them more benefits and take it
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away from New Yorkers.
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They stole your take, Rita. They stole my take. They
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stole your take. I thought that was the line of
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the night. No, they didn't steal it. They were listening
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to us. They were listening. And they decided to follow suit. Exactly.
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But that, I think, was a memorable one. They're smart.
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But let's get to, since we just have a few
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minutes left, you guys, where it goes from here. Where
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does the race go from here? And was there anything
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that changes the trajectory of the race? Because we were
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talking with John McLaughlin earlier tonight on Cats and Cosby.
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And some of the polls, I just want to read,
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and Sienna poll there within nine points, you know, single digits.
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There's a pollfinity that came out that John was spotlighting
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with me and John, 3%. Lee Zeldin came within 6%.
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But the reality is, you know, there's still a little
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bit of distance. Did he narrow that gap tonight, Betsy McCoy?
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Well, he certainly did with upstate voters. He underscored that
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he is going to allow fracking. And that means those
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upstaters will be driving Cadillac Escalades instead of rusted pickup trucks.
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It will bring huge prosperity to the southern tier counties.
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He also said he would open massive data centers upstate,
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the single biggest source of blue-collar employment. In America, upstaters
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don't want handouts.
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They want jobs.
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Jake, do you think it changes the trajectory? I think
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just as you said, if the line of the night is,
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as Rita said, $ 4.
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Billion for cops and $ 8 billion for the criminals, for
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illegal aliens. then Bruce Blakeman needs to do what I
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described before. He needs to go into the neighborhoods of
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all the urban areas in the city, bring with him
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veterans who are being challenged right now, young families who
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are being challenged right now, preferably minorities, and say, these
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are the people Kathy Hochul sold out in favor of
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illegal immigrants.
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He must do that, and he has to bring human
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beings with him as a vision.
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I agree, and that's why I believe, as what we're saying, Jake,
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that he's got some powerful ads that, I mean, all
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he has to do is put $ 8 billion.
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They got free He.
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Doesn't have much money. How are we going to deal
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with that?
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Yeah, that's an interesting point. Let me see the people
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behind those numbers. I want to see the people behind
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those numbers. I agree. The voters are people. Last time
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I checked. I know that's going to change what they are.
819
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But you're right.
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Emotions.
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It's a good point. It's a very good point. Michael Cohen.
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It's going to all be about getting the message out,
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something we do here every single day on 77WABC. John Katsimatidis, myself,
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everybody talks about a judge. We all talk about how
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Bruce Blakeman's message has to get out there. If that
826
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message gets out there and enough people hear it, then
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he will end up winning this, and he could win
828
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it decisively.
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If, in fact, people don't get the message, unfortunately, I
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think that... Dummy Hochul is going to pull it off.
831
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Well, and Betsy brought up the money issue because there
832
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is a big disparity in the money right now.
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There is a big fundraiser.
834
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James Dolan with Madison Square Garden and the Knicks is
835
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throwing a 10,000 per person big fundraiser.
836
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That's right.
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Suzanne's involved in a fundraiser.
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Yeah.
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Could that make the difference, Suzanne?
840
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Well, I think that what he appealed to today were the,
841
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as you call it, the purple voters, because she completely
842
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used Donald Trump as her perfect answer every single time.
843
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And I think it almost sounded insincere. And I think
844
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people got tired of her stock answer is Donald Trump.
845
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I love where she said he didn't raise your utilities
846
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48 times.
847
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She overused it.
848
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And I think that for the independent voters that were
849
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just not voting for him because they thought he was
850
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aligned with Donald Trump, he did a better job and
851
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we'll get those voters.
852
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What do you think, Judge Weinberg?
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I think that's right.
854
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I think you have to say who's going in tonight
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is already committed to where they are.
856
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Has he changed any minds? Maybe a few.
857
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But there's that block of independent, uncommitted voters at this time.
858
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That's the people he has to reach.
859
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And you hear it's 6%, 7% depends on the poll.
860
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That's what it's all about. In some of these polls,
861
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that is the margin. That's the difference. So what do
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00:40:19.780 --> 00:40:21.480
you think, Judge? I mean, do you think were there?
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00:40:21.500 --> 00:40:22.980
Did they tap into that?
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00:40:23.019 --> 00:40:24.179
Did he tap into those?
865
00:40:24.340 --> 00:40:27.940
The message is clear. He was decisive. He was informative.
866
00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:29.099
He was a grown-up.
867
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He's clearly a good executive. If people listened honestly and fairly...
868
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:35.119
There's no doubt they should be.
869
00:40:35.079 --> 00:40:35.619
Voting for him.
870
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But the problem is, is what Suzanne was spotlighting, what
871
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John was spotlighting, is that if you look at already
872
00:40:41.039 --> 00:40:43.519
the results, they're saying, oh, it was a draw.
873
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That's a spin.
874
00:40:44.599 --> 00:40:48.030
Let's start with this opening line. What have you got
875
00:40:48.110 --> 00:40:53.630
to lose? New York ranks 50th dead last in economic outlook.
876
00:40:54.159 --> 00:40:57.829
Dead last. So unless you are a millionaire, you should
877
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be voting for Bruce Blakeman because he is offering you
878
00:41:01.210 --> 00:41:04.449
a prosperous future, jobs for you, for your kids, for
879
00:41:04.469 --> 00:41:07.050
your grandkids, a reason to stay in New York.
880
00:41:07.550 --> 00:41:09.590
Did he give them a reason to stay and stop
881
00:41:09.630 --> 00:41:10.110
the flight?
882
00:41:10.269 --> 00:41:13.980
I think Bruce Blakeman did, and I'm going to agree
883
00:41:13.980 --> 00:41:14.980
100% with Judge Weinberg.
884
00:41:16.260 --> 00:41:18.320
We need to ensure that that message gets out.
885
00:41:18.960 --> 00:41:21.480
If, in fact, the message gets out and people listen.
886
00:41:21.219 --> 00:41:23.519
To it, We already know that Bruce Blakeman would.
887
00:41:23.440 --> 00:41:23.699
Be the victor.
888
00:41:23.719 --> 00:41:25.900
Well, that's why us here on WABC, I mean, we're
889
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telling it like it is. We have all sides here.
890
00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:31.659
We have Republicans, Democrats, Independents, even in our broadcast tonight.
891
00:41:32.369 --> 00:41:34.989
The question is, is it enough to move the needle?
892
00:41:35.030 --> 00:41:36.769
But it is three weeks.
893
00:41:36.869 --> 00:41:38.630
Most powerful radio station in America.
894
00:41:38.650 --> 00:41:41.550
Most powerful, thanks to John and Margo. And also, the
895
00:41:41.590 --> 00:41:45.579
reality is, guys, too, three weeks is a lifetime in politics.
896
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:49.039
We've all covered so many political races. in many cases,
897
00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:51.039
this may have been the first time that they got
898
00:41:51.059 --> 00:41:54.309
a chance to really listen. Maybe even on Spectrum News
899
00:41:54.349 --> 00:41:55.530
to some of their listeners, you know.
900
00:41:55.570 --> 00:41:55.929
And viewers.
901
00:41:56.090 --> 00:41:58.190
I don't get the feeling until tonight that many New
902
00:41:58.210 --> 00:42:00.780
Yorkers have been paying, really focused on this election.
903
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:04.239
I really don't get that feeling until maybe now. So
904
00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:07.210
you're right. Like, In an ordinary circumstance, this would be
905
00:42:07.730 --> 00:42:08.230
very late.
906
00:42:08.570 --> 00:42:11.199
But I don't think that the very big majority of
907
00:42:11.239 --> 00:42:13.739
New York voters have been paying close attention to this election.
908
00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:16.500
Yeah, and now the race starts. That's the question, because
909
00:42:16.539 --> 00:42:19.769
now the race starts. It's three weeks. He can do
910
00:42:19.829 --> 00:42:21.889
all the ads that we were just talking about, Jake,
911
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with putting these real faces.
912
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He needs the money to do this.
913
00:42:24.289 --> 00:42:24.510
Right.
914
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Lots of great clips to choose from tonight.
915
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Yes, certainly. There are definitely a lot of great clips
916
00:42:30.809 --> 00:42:32.750
to come. What do you guys believe? Was there a
917
00:42:32.789 --> 00:42:35.389
headline moment? I, again, go back to the $ 8 billion.
918
00:42:35.409 --> 00:42:35.800
Oh, yes.
919
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That is it.
920
00:42:36.679 --> 00:42:37.239
Absolutely.
921
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That's it.
922
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Was there another moment that you thought, real quick, Betsy?
923
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Well, I think that is the number one that everyone
924
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will come away with. And number two, she keeps saying,
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why are you so in love with Donald Trump? And
926
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he points out the very important ways that he differs
927
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from Donald Trump, including being pro-choice. Ladies all over New
928
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York State, listen to that one.
929
00:42:58.349 --> 00:43:00.800
And I also thought that Cornell was interesting, where she
930
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kind of fumbled. And he said, you were a trustee.
931
00:43:03.219 --> 00:43:03.699
Wait a minute.
932
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It was like some of those moments, Michael.
933
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Yeah, I mean, she went all Porky Pig on the.
934
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You're good at that.
935
00:43:12.619 --> 00:43:14.400
Yeah, very good.
936
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And then all of a sudden it's like, well, that's
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not something that's going to endear a voter.
938
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And your thoughts real quick, Judge. I don't know how
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you do it.
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00:43:24.269 --> 00:43:26.510
I'm with Michael, but I can't do that rendition of
941
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Porky Pig.
942
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Right.
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And you guys, we're going to have to wrap up now.
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Everybody, thank you for listening here on 77 WABC. It's
945
00:43:35.389 --> 00:43:39.289
been incredible to listen to tonight. Again, the first, the
946
00:43:39.530 --> 00:43:43.309
only debate between Bruce Blakeman and Kathy Hochul. It's been
947
00:43:43.349 --> 00:43:47.989
so awesome to be with you, Rita Cosby, John Katsimatidis. Also,
948
00:43:48.170 --> 00:43:53.389
Suzanne Miller, Judge Richard Weinberg, Michael Cohen, Betsy McCoy, and
949
00:43:53.469 --> 00:43:59.989
Jake Novak. And, of course, everybody here on 77 WABC.
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We all stand for.
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Truth, justice, and the American way.
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God bless New York. Go out and vote.