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we appreciate you being with us, Jeff,
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Kat, Julie and Matt. We
are to speak easy on ninety seven
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one The Freak, and there's no
time to fiddle far around. It's game
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seven times. Step into the zin
bend of Julie Dobbs Zinn good only.
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Thank you, Thank you, everybody, thank you, thank you. Over
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there, You're welcome back left.
I so appreciate you coming out tonight,
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trying to pretend like Taylor Swift would
do a segment how she feels on stage
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anyways. Um yeah, game seven
tonight. So there was a possibility that
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we were going to come in here
today and just spend the show celebrating our
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trip to the Western Conference final that
was upcoming, because there was a chance
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that the Dollars Stars could go into
Seattle on Saturday night and shut up the
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crack and shut down those fans,
take their little fish and throw them back
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where they came from in the ocean. Myth creature. No, but they
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throw fish, yeah, like the
three stars of the game. Yeah.
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After I wonder if They even call
them the three Stars, the three cracks
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of the game. It's a but
they all had fish and they threw them
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into the stands. It's a Seattle
play. It's a tradition at Pike's Place
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Market they throw fish, and amazingly, I've never seen anyone drop one because
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it feels like a slippery thing to
catch. Well, because the ones that
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catch it are the ones that you
see, because those ones go on social
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media because someone's like, look what
I did at the market when I caught
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the fish and I met Mike Lesley
dropped sixteen of them. It's a tourist
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thing. How many news reporters stand
ups have been done there? I'm trying
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to catch the fish Pike's Places.
So anyway, they had a chance to
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just kind of end this thing and
then come back to Dallas and relax a
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little bit, wait to see who
we're going to play, have a little
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break, but that didn't happen.
We do know that the opponent for whoever
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wins tonight is going to be Las
Vegas. The Golden Nights eliminated Edmonton last
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night and they are moving on to
the Western Conference Final. So that also
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means I mean it's not going to
be the cracking because the Stars are gonna
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win. But if it was the
crack, and we'd have expansion versus expansion
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and the Western Conference Final, pretty
good expansion draft. Theres these teams right
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the way it's working out. Yeah, it's like you have a bunch of
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guys that are not your top tier
superstar players, but that are very good
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and serviceable. Then they all end
up on a team together, and that
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apparently is winning hockey. I'm stupid
and slow to just be putting that together
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because when you watch them play,
like they don't appear to have a guy
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that is I would say Jason Robertson, but that's not the case. Yeah,
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but like they don't, they don't
have a guy that you're like,
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whoa, But they really whatever line
is out there, you're like, they're
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all they're good, Like they're almost
all evenly matched, and so that's hard
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to play against. Um. So
it was a bad six three loss on
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Saturday night. I don't I wish. I don't know why. It's like,
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when we lose, we gotta lose
bad. When we win, we
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gotta win big tonight. Right,
Uh, So the Dallas Stars have been
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really good after a loss. And
more on that in a second, because
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I do have seven storylines ahead of
this Game seven. We're gonna spin a
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wheel to decide which one I'm going
to play. I think Mike Ryner's gonna
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tell me which one I am going
to discuss. But I did have a
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Pete Dubor quote um from after that
game. I mean, he just always
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says the right things. He does. He makes me feel better about about
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ass and all of that. He's
the epitome of doesn't get too high after
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a win or get too low after
a loss, which, if you're into
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hockey cliches, is what they say
all season long, but especially in the
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playoffs that really matters. He said, it's a tough time of the year
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to be at any team. Three
games in a row. We won Game
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four and one game five. That's
a big ask. The reason you play
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all season is to have home ice
for a Game seven like this. We've
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earned that right and hopefully we'll use
that to our benefit, but we haven't
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earned that in the next series if
we make it correct. Home ice not
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right. Not from what I understand, They're gonna have home ice. Actually,
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yes, for sure, they're for
sure going to have home ice,
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so I believe if we play Vegas
or I don't want to start saying that.
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Right when we play Vegas, I'll
do it. Don't worry about Okay,
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Jeff did it. Yeah, We'll
start off on the road. That's
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fine. I'm not gonna We're gonna
start off on the road. And I
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don't think I mean, don't like
quote me on this television networks or whoever,
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but I don't think we're going to
start until Friday. That's what I
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was told. So we will get
you that you've got your stars. I
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also told that last Friday. Look
at you. Yeah, I got a
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problem with the cracking. Oh okay, it's a new problem, all right,
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But I've never realized before they look
like awkwad fresh toothpaste. No,
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they're the only team. I think
their unis are great. Uh, they're
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the only team in hockey that in
the standings or a box score, it
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says the whole name really like it
says stars and then it says Seattle cracking.
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Interesting And if you look up to
standings, Golden Knights has two words,
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but it's their team name. Everybody
else just has their actual team name,
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not the city and they get Seattle
cracking. Yeah, maybe there's some
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like unwritten rule for expansion teams.
It's like, every time you say our
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name, you must say our full
name, full name for five years.
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It's time to learn us. It's
time to treat the new guy like they
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treated me in fifth grade. Let's
get to bullying tonight. Yeah. Let's
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push them around, dude, Let's
push them around. And there s on
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their jersey that looks like the S
that you learned how to draw in fourth
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grade with the three lines three lines
and then the three lines are underneath it
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and you connect the little lines.
Any seven year old can draw that s
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all right? Oh like what you're
doing? Okay, So I'm gonna calm
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down, so feisty. All the
S is a tentacle. I'd never noticed
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that before. It's actually pretty chicky. Don't start talking nice out their.
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Everley is just a good player,
and like Everley. You like Everley.
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He's good. Did you see when
he was trying to protect the puck the
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other night and he cradled it like
on top of it, and the announcer
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was like, hey, is not
letting go. That was funny. So
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tonight's game just a quick PSA.
It is, like Kevin said earlier,
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it is green. It's a green
out tonight, So where you're green the
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Dallas Stars Actually, uh, just
put this quote out on Twitter, Jeff,
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you'll appreciate it. It's a quote
from Ron Weasley, not blackout,
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not retro green ocause Ron Weasley said
that. I know he didn't really say
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that, but maybe that makes sense
to you. Maybe the stupidest answer I've
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ever given green, not black out, not retro green. Did Ron Weasley
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like Green? I don't know what
Weasley quote that. Harry Potter, No,
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that's Harry Potter. I don't know. Ron was fine. He's my
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weast character social media person. Maybe
maybe not everybody understands, but yeah,
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this could be a Harry Potter deep
cut. It must be. Maybe we'll
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have them on someday, one of
those fantasy nerds running your hockey team account.
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Huh oh, I support that obviously. Guess all right, Google Search
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doesn't tie these things together in any
way, shape or form. That's funny,
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Okay, it's bust. It's a
man of my next Ron Weasley Green.
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I think we're ready for I see
the wheel seven up on our screen.
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Story lines ahead of tonight's Game seven, we have a green wheel.
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It is in studio with us.
It's actually a love it different shades of
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green actually wins a little bit more
mustardy. But let's go ahead and spend
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the wheel. Oh, come on, hey, come on now stop.
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We got what we got where?
All right? Mike Reiner, We have
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a really cool wheel that also includes
the voice of Mike Reiner. Number two
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storyline of the day. And these
are no particular order, because I would
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actually say this could be number one. If you're looking at order of importance.
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Jake Ottinger, if you've been following
along, got screwed? Have you've
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been following along this season? You
know that Jake Ottinger is very good following
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a loss. In fact, the
record right now is twenty two one and
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three this season, what including four
and oh in the playoffs after a loss.
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Um he has looked in the losses. He doesn't look good. Um,
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I think the amateur hockey Jeff coming
at you right now. Yeah.
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I think Harley's got a little something. Yeah, I think Mirro's great.
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I think as a whole, the
defenseman don't do a great job of making
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Otter's job easy. Stay tuned for
storyline number six. Okay, but yeah,
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I mean, you can help your
goaltender a lot by playing good defense.
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You can also make it a lot
harder on your goaltender. But the
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key is having a goaltender that can
make most of the sames regardless, and
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Jake usually is that. And I
don't think he's been that this series.
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But when he's good, he's really
good, and so that's all we need
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tonight. It's like, let's just
have one of those really good games tonight
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and then like take a minute re
rack if something's ailing you. Maybe that
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will heal up. I don't know, but just just reset. These these
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playoff series is are brutal. We
know that, and maybe he's not feeling
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one hundred percent. But there's a
kind of deep analytics graphic here that I
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saw that I liked. So it's
comparing Jake Ottinger's numbers in his way to
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his losses. So in the playoffs, he has seven wins, he has
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four losses. His goals against average
in the wins one point eight six,
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his goals against average in the losses
three point nine zero. Well, it's
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not good. His save percentage in
the win point nine thirty one in losses
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point eight seventy two. Um.
And this is also interesting. So the
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support that he's given, the run
support, if you will, by his
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teammates. In wins, the Dallas
Stars have scored four point seven one goals
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a game. In the losses that
Jay Gauder's losses, the Stars have scored
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two point seven five goals a game. Five and three there, Yeah,
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five and three, Okay. Obviously
the goals are gonna help you win.
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So it's whatever, but it's it's
it's just interesting. The losses have been
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have been real. I don't know
if I want to say real bad that
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sounds harsh, but the losses have
been bad. He got yank. He
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got yanked on was early on Saturday. To Yankee. Personally, I thought
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that was odd, and I know
Pete did the interview during the game and
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said I was just trying to wake
everyone up, but I was like,
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Okay, sorry, it's all yours
wedge because you're, you know, at
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that point, you're not that yank
a goaltender. That's also a lot of
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times that's why you see them shuffle
the lines around. Was kind of to
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like wake everybody up. But I
thought it was early. Also, it's
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the baseball manager getting thrown out of
a game on purpose. Yeah, just
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trying to wake people up, right, Like I'm just gonna go cause a
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ruckus and get that bullpen to wake
up our sorry dugout um. So yeah,
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that that's can be one of the
reasons. Also, you heard him
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say, I think he said we
were kind of like trying to not look
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ahead to Game seven, but he
had Game seven in mind, like when
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he saw the way that that one
was going. Also, you hope that
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Scott Wedgwood can come in and play
really well, and he did. He
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played pretty well. But I was
a little surprised by that too, because
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for a young goaltender. Granted,
Jake's you know, he's been our starter
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all year long or for two seasons
now, and he has a little bit
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of playoff experience, but he is
a young goaltender. He's a young person,
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and that kind of thing can rattle
you and shake your confidence. But
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if you look at these numbers when
he is in a bad way, it
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usually doesn't go well. If you
can tell that, like he's having one
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of those nights or something's bothering him, like maybe that's what he saw and
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so you just pull him and see, you know what you can get from
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Wedgwood. And then if not he's
rested at least for game seven, go
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full bell for tonight, let's go
what oh yeah, yeah, well,
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or you could go Ottinger, right, go Ottinger, like do what you
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did last year against Calgary in the
playoffs that game seven. It took a
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couple overtimes for Calgary to finally get
rid of the Stars. But Jake Ottinger
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was amazing. And I think,
Kevin, if you look closely tonight,
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you might see a goaltender stand on
his head. Oh, come on,
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you just might. It's just such. So I just hope they have a
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little like cushion for his head or
something, because that, you're right,
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that is dangerous. It would be
very difficult upside down. All the blood
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rushes to your head all of a
sudden, you can't speak very well.
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Yeah. So hopefully the team plays
well in front of him and he won't
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have to. But I think if
that's what it comes down to, he
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just might pull out a pillow and
do a headstand for the whole entire game.
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If the crack and score three or
less, they're dead. Yes,
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that's what we need, yes,
twenty two, one and three this season
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after a lost four too in the
playoffs. That's Jake Ottens, you're that's
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storyline number two. What do we
have next, mister wheel spet ok,
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I guess number five? Scroll scroll
All right, let's talk about the elephant
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in the room. Robertson. Yeah, okay, I have a Robertson observation.
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What's your Robertson observation? My thing
about talking about sportation, my ro
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observation. I enjoy talking about sports
that I'm not like an expert in because
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I just watch it and fake stuff
and then I'd say the stuff I think,
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and then Julie can tell me if
I'm right or wrong. Yeah,
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in Game six, I'm watching it
and at times, like I get it,
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the hockey puck doesn't always stay flat
on the ground. It rolls around,
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and it flips around, it does
all these little moves. But I
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just felt like there was a bunch
of times when Jason Robertson could have made
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a play, and I'm like one
of the leading scores and hockey makes that
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play. What is happening? Like
It's like, whoop, it flipped over
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my stick or whoops, didn't get
that right, And I'm just like,
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are you Are we in our head
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I would say you're absolutely right on
with that observation. I think there's something
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going on mentally a little bit.
But I also think it just seems like
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he is playing a little slower.
Oh no, then some of the other
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players. There was a point I
think when in the last game Rope Hints
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just totally outscated him and was looking
for someone in Robertson Rope fast. But
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like Rope and Robertson have played together
all season long, they should know.
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Robertson knows he's got to get on
it, get on the horse. If
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you see Rope with the puck,
you get up there right there with him.
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You support him, and you you
you should be there because something's going
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to happen. If Rope has a
puck and he's on your line, he's
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your teammate. So there were a
little there were instances where where Robertson was
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just kind of too slow. Um, and that's not good. He's playing
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a little slower. Playoff games are
generally faster games than regular season games.
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We've talked about how they're more physical
brand of game in the playoff, and
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that's not necessarily something that plays to
his strength. I think he's doing okay
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with that aspect of it, but
it just kind of seems like he can't
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keep up sometimes. Um, it's
not good. He had a gas.
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Is tonight be his ninety fifth game
of the year. Yeah, I mean
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there's he never played ninety five games
in a year before. There's something to
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be said for that. It's a
long season and here you are in games
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seven of your second round. You
know you're another extra thirteen games or something.
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Or you're also super young. You're
super young. This observation I actually
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had. I'm gonna quate this to
the Cheetahs soccer game, which is the
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seven year old soccer game that I
watched on Saturday, because I since I'm
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watching so much hockey, I'm watching
soccer now and like talking to myself about
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how it relates to hockey because now
of the moms very frustrating sports. Yeah,
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and so like there was a kid
who, uh, he is really
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good, and he's really good with
controlling the ball, and he's really good
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with the little like his his foot
skills or whatever you call it in soccer.
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Like he makes a lot of plays. He's he's called dribbling. No,
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but like you know, if you
can Finesse moves, yeah, I
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guess Finesse moves a point guard time. Yeah. Yeah, Well like whatever,
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he does, little tricks vision,
he has little tricks with his feet.
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Good skill, he's skilled. He's
very skilled. Um, and so
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he was kind he had the ball
and this was a big this was a
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big game for the Cheetahs like this, this was a big point, Like
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we needed a goal and this kid
has the ball and he's like just waiting,
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waiting, waiting, waiting. He's
trying to get in the right position.
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He's trying to make sure that there's
no one right on top of him,
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and he's going outside, outside,
outside, and now all of a
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sudden, you lost your shot.
Yeah, And so he shoots it and
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it just goes into the side of
the net. That's kind of what Jason
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Robertson's been doing. Oh, he's
shame at the front. It's kind of
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what Jason Robertson's been doing. When
you're holding onto the puck for too long,
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and you're holding onto the puck for
too long, you're trying to make
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the perfect play in hockey. You'll
hear him say trying to be too cute
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a lot of times, and we're
seeing that a little bit from Jason robertson.
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Just shoot it, just shoot it, just make something happen. And
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that lends me to another one of
the storylines. Things happen in front of
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the net for both of these teams. So let's spend the wheel story line
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game seven. The third storyline for
tonight's game seven, between the Dallas Stars
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and the Seattle kurakin Um, we
have, like I mentioned, the battle
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in front of the net um,
so we've seen most of the offense for
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both of these teams come from right
in front of the net. It's all
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tips as well. He is really
good at that. But when it comes
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to looking at Seattle and the evil
groups, Grubauer, he's the evil groups
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um. So in game five,
when the Stars had a very well played
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game, a dominant win in game
five, they had success in front of
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the net, net fronts success,
if you will. And this is a
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stat that I saw that I liked. Eleven of their fifteen goals versus Grubauer,
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we're off of screens, deflections,
or rebounds. That's that dirty greasy,
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chip away at it kind of goal. He let's see his playoffs save
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percentage um when it comes to shots
including screens, deflections, or rebounds eight
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thirty two, thirteenth out of nineteen
qualified goalies in the playoffs, thirteenth when
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there's something in front of him,
right, Like, that's when he's not
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good. Obviously, if you can
get in front of his eyes, that's
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perfect, if you set a screen
that kind of thing, but basically making
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it messy in front of the net, he's not good at that goal.
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Yes, in the last game was
so awesome. That's why fake evil grooves
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just like stood all the way up
because it's like this thing's going over the
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net and just like, dude,
yes, that's why Pavelski sets up camp
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in front of the net, and
a lot of these guys do without a
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screen, deflection or a rebound.
His save percentage ninety eight, first of
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all of the remaining goaltenders in the
playoffs. So he's really good if he
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can see the puck so ugly it
up in front of evil groups. Let's
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get evil in front of evil groups. The Dallas Stars kind of the same
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way. I would say that is
also the way to attack Jake Ottinger.
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So it's something we need to play
better defense against. Right, don't let
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them get into that area. Score
the first goal, score the first goal,
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but don't let them score twenty seconds
later. The wheel real quick.
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Oh that might be on there,
wheels on couldn't die all right, This
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one's kind of simple. It's game
seven. You have home ice advantage.
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This is what you work so hard
for all season long. You want home
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ice advantage, and now you have
it in a game seven in the playoffs.
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I think there's a lot more value
for home ice in games seven than
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there is in home for home ice
in games one and two. Right,
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if you look at the playoffs this
season and most seasons, if you have
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a situation where there's two games on
someone's home ice, it's usually a split.
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Most of the time, is it. Most of the time has been
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in the playoffs this season? In
the NHL Game seven, you can feel
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it. It matters. You want
your fans to elevate you to a win.
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And like I read in that Pete
Debor quote at the beginning of this
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segment, this is what you work
for. This is what all the blood,
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sweat and tears is for. It's
four game seven. You have home
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ice. You want to be the
one to make the team your opponent feel
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off everything we talk about. Make
them with stand your attack, make them
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on the play on their heels.
Use the home ice tier advantage. You've
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worked hard for it, You've earned
it. The top players need to be
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the top players tonight. Not to
be cliche e coachy, but we need
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more from Tyler, We need more
from Jamie, We need a little bit
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more from Ottinger. We need a
lot more from Robertson. You know what
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if two of those four activate tonight
seriously and do well, that would be
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great. I hope fans are able
to get there by seven. It's hard
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to get anywhere and way traffic works
in this town. I hope there leave
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early from work if you can,
obviously quick but yeah, this is this
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is like a big like green out. Make it uncomfortable, make it incredible,
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yep, make it incredible, um
quickly. My last one I kind
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of referenced Pete de Boor. He's
one of them. He's one of the
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storylines. Guys. He's six and
no as a head coach all time.
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In game seven, let's he's been
waiting. He gets secrets and no the
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longest streak of game seven wins among
head coaches. Um, he's his quote.
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Those are lifetime experiences when you get
to play in game sevens, especially
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in front of your home crowd,
the opportunity to really make a statement and
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move us on to the next round. I'm excited. I think our group's
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excited. Hopefully the Dallas Stars fans
are excited. Oh. By the way,
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if he wins, he gets to
play his former team and the next
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strap. That's cool. He's pumped
up. This team's gonna want to win
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it for him. Tell me if
this would work. Yeah, okay,
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it's game seven. Y tend break
out all the tricks. You win the
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opening face off, You drop the
puck back to Ottinger, who leads the
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break. Okay, this is a
play that you save season. Game starts
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coming down the ice. Okay,
he stopped. He goes by the Stars
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bench, swaps out the gold stick
for a regular stick. He's got all
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that equipment on. He hands it
off to Miro. He leads the way.
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He's got all that body armor on. Just follow him in. That
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would be interesting, That would make
Sports Center. But I don't think we
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need to do that him, stick
with the game plan, protect Jake Ottinger,
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don't put him out on center ice. Um. And and lastly,
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like Jeff, you mentioned better defense. We need better defense tonight. The
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Lindell and Hawk and Pop Harrying was
particularly bad. Um Lindell, who is
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a good defenseman. He is a
core part of this core decore if you
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will very soon trying to do a
little core onwards there. Yeah, he's
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a core part of the core.
Um. But he had a bad game.
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He was on the ice for five
of Seattle's six goals Game six.
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He said, I mean everything went
sideways today. I don't know if I've
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played that bad for a long time. I just felt they got odd Man's
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won battles, all the things we've
been good at before went sideways today.
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Hey, throw it out, put
it in the trash. It's gone.
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It's in the dumpster in Seattle.
Actually, that's where that game is.
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It's a fresh sheet of ice tonight. It's a fresh game. It's Game
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seven, it is. That was
Julie Dobbs her seven storylines for Game seven.
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We'll do our goal picks next.
Plus we'll listen to your talkbacks and
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Thank you, Thank you, everybody, thank you, thank you. Over
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there, You're welcome back left.
I so appreciate you coming out tonight,
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trying to pretend like Taylor Swift would
do a segment how she feels on stage
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anyways. Um yeah, game seven
tonight. So there was a possibility that
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we were going to come in here
today and just spend the show celebrating our
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trip to the Western Conference final that
was upcoming, because there was a chance
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that the Dollars Stars could go into
Seattle on Saturday night and shut up the
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crack and shut down those fans,
take their little fish and throw them back
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where they came from in the ocean. Myth creature. No, but they
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throw fish, yeah, like the
three stars of the game. Yeah.
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After I wonder if They even call
them the three Stars, the three cracks
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of the game. It's a but
they all had fish and they threw them
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into the stands. It's a Seattle
play. It's a tradition at Pike's Place
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Market they throw fish, and amazingly, I've never seen anyone drop one because
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it feels like a slippery thing to
catch. Well, because the ones that
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catch it are the ones that you
see, because those ones go on social
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media because someone's like, look what
I did at the market when I caught
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the fish and I met Mike Lesley
dropped sixteen of them. It's a tourist
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thing. How many news reporters stand
ups have been done there? I'm trying
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to catch the fish Pike's Places.
So anyway, they had a chance to
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just kind of end this thing and
then come back to Dallas and relax a
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little bit, wait to see who
we're going to play, have a little
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break, but that didn't happen.
We do know that the opponent for whoever
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wins tonight is going to be Las
Vegas. The Golden Nights eliminated Edmonton last
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night and they are moving on to
the Western Conference Final. So that also
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means I mean it's not going to
be the cracking because the Stars are gonna
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win. But if it was the
crack, and we'd have expansion versus expansion
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and the Western Conference Final, pretty
good expansion draft. Theres these teams right
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the way it's working out. Yeah, it's like you have a bunch of
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guys that are not your top tier
superstar players, but that are very good
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and serviceable. Then they all end
up on a team together, and that
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apparently is winning hockey. I'm stupid
and slow to just be putting that together
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because when you watch them play,
like they don't appear to have a guy
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that is I would say Jason Robertson, but that's not the case. Yeah,
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but like they don't, they don't
have a guy that you're like,
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whoa, But they really whatever line
is out there, you're like, they're
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all they're good, Like they're almost
all evenly matched, and so that's hard
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to play against. Um. So
it was a bad six three loss on
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Saturday night. I don't I wish. I don't know why. It's like,
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when we lose, we gotta lose
bad. When we win, we
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gotta win big tonight. Right,
Uh, So the Dallas Stars have been
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really good after a loss. And
more on that in a second, because
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I do have seven storylines ahead of
this Game seven. We're gonna spin a
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wheel to decide which one I'm going
to play. I think Mike Ryner's gonna
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tell me which one I am going
to discuss. But I did have a
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Pete Dubor quote um from after that
game. I mean, he just always
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says the right things. He does. He makes me feel better about about
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ass and all of that. He's
the epitome of doesn't get too high after
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a win or get too low after
a loss, which, if you're into
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hockey cliches, is what they say
all season long, but especially in the
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playoffs that really matters. He said, it's a tough time of the year
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to be at any team. Three
games in a row. We won Game
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four and one game five. That's
a big ask. The reason you play
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all season is to have home ice
for a Game seven like this. We've
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earned that right and hopefully we'll use
that to our benefit, but we haven't
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earned that in the next series if
we make it correct. Home ice not
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right. Not from what I understand, They're gonna have home ice. Actually,
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yes, for sure, they're for
sure going to have home ice,
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so I believe if we play Vegas
or I don't want to start saying that.
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Right when we play Vegas, I'll
do it. Don't worry about Okay,
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Jeff did it. Yeah, We'll
start off on the road. That's
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fine. I'm not gonna We're gonna
start off on the road. And I
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don't think I mean, don't like
quote me on this television networks or whoever,
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but I don't think we're going to
start until Friday. That's what I
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was told. So we will get
you that you've got your stars. I
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also told that last Friday. Look
at you. Yeah, I got a
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problem with the cracking. Oh okay, it's a new problem, all right,
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But I've never realized before they look
like awkwad fresh toothpaste. No,
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they're the only team. I think
their unis are great. Uh, they're
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the only team in hockey that in
the standings or a box score, it
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says the whole name really like it
says stars and then it says Seattle cracking.
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Interesting And if you look up to
standings, Golden Knights has two words,
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but it's their team name. Everybody
else just has their actual team name,
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not the city and they get Seattle
cracking. Yeah, maybe there's some
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like unwritten rule for expansion teams.
It's like, every time you say our
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name, you must say our full
name, full name for five years.
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It's time to learn us. It's
time to treat the new guy like they
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treated me in fifth grade. Let's
get to bullying tonight. Yeah. Let's
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push them around, dude, Let's
push them around. And there s on
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their jersey that looks like the S
that you learned how to draw in fourth
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grade with the three lines three lines
and then the three lines are underneath it
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and you connect the little lines.
Any seven year old can draw that s
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all right? Oh like what you're
doing? Okay, So I'm gonna calm
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down, so feisty. All the
S is a tentacle. I'd never noticed
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that before. It's actually pretty chicky. Don't start talking nice out their.
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Everley is just a good player,
and like Everley. You like Everley.
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He's good. Did you see when
he was trying to protect the puck the
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other night and he cradled it like
on top of it, and the announcer
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was like, hey, is not
letting go. That was funny. So
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tonight's game just a quick PSA.
It is, like Kevin said earlier,
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it is green. It's a green
out tonight, So where you're green the
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Dallas Stars Actually, uh, just
put this quote out on Twitter, Jeff,
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you'll appreciate it. It's a quote
from Ron Weasley, not blackout,
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not retro green ocause Ron Weasley said
that. I know he didn't really say
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that, but maybe that makes sense
to you. Maybe the stupidest answer I've
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ever given green, not black out, not retro green. Did Ron Weasley
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like Green? I don't know what
Weasley quote that. Harry Potter, No,
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that's Harry Potter. I don't know. Ron was fine. He's my
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weast character social media person. Maybe
maybe not everybody understands, but yeah,
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this could be a Harry Potter deep
cut. It must be. Maybe we'll
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have them on someday, one of
those fantasy nerds running your hockey team account.
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Huh oh, I support that obviously. Guess all right, Google Search
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doesn't tie these things together in any
way, shape or form. That's funny,
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Okay, it's bust. It's a
man of my next Ron Weasley Green.
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I think we're ready for I see
the wheel seven up on our screen.
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Story lines ahead of tonight's Game seven, we have a green wheel.
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It is in studio with us.
It's actually a love it different shades of
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green actually wins a little bit more
mustardy. But let's go ahead and spend
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the wheel. Oh, come on, hey, come on now stop.
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We got what we got where?
All right? Mike Reiner, We have
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a really cool wheel that also includes
the voice of Mike Reiner. Number two
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storyline of the day. And these
are no particular order, because I would
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actually say this could be number one. If you're looking at order of importance.
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Jake Ottinger, if you've been following
along, got screwed? Have you've
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been following along this season? You
know that Jake Ottinger is very good following
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a loss. In fact, the
record right now is twenty two one and
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three this season, what including four
and oh in the playoffs after a loss.
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Um he has looked in the losses. He doesn't look good. Um,
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I think the amateur hockey Jeff coming
at you right now. Yeah.
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I think Harley's got a little something. Yeah, I think Mirro's great.
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I think as a whole, the
defenseman don't do a great job of making
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Otter's job easy. Stay tuned for
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I mean, you can help your
goaltender a lot by playing good defense.
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You can also make it a lot
harder on your goaltender. But the
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key is having a goaltender that can
make most of the sames regardless, and
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Jake usually is that. And I
don't think he's been that this series.
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But when he's good, he's really
good, and so that's all we need
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tonight. It's like, let's just
have one of those really good games tonight
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and then like take a minute re
rack if something's ailing you. Maybe that
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will heal up. I don't know, but just just reset. These these
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playoff series is are brutal. We
know that, and maybe he's not feeling
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one hundred percent. But there's a
kind of deep analytics graphic here that I
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saw that I liked. So it's
comparing Jake Ottinger's numbers in his way to
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his losses. So in the playoffs, he has seven wins, he has
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four losses. His goals against average
in the wins one point eight six,
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his goals against average in the losses
three point nine zero. Well, it's
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not good. His save percentage in
the win point nine thirty one in losses
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point eight seventy two. Um.
And this is also interesting. So the
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support that he's given, the run
support, if you will, by his
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teammates. In wins, the Dallas
Stars have scored four point seven one goals
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a game. In the losses that
Jay Gauder's losses, the Stars have scored
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two point seven five goals a game. Five and three there, Yeah,
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five and three, Okay. Obviously
the goals are gonna help you win.
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So it's whatever, but it's it's
it's just interesting. The losses have been
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have been real. I don't know
if I want to say real bad that
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sounds harsh, but the losses have
been bad. He got yank. He
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got yanked on was early on Saturday. To Yankee. Personally, I thought
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that was odd, and I know
Pete did the interview during the game and
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said I was just trying to wake
everyone up, but I was like,
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Okay, sorry, it's all yours
wedge because you're, you know, at
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that point, you're not that yank
a goaltender. That's also a lot of
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times that's why you see them shuffle
the lines around. Was kind of to
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like wake everybody up. But I
thought it was early. Also, it's
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the baseball manager getting thrown out of
a game on purpose. Yeah, just
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trying to wake people up, right, Like I'm just gonna go cause a
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ruckus and get that bullpen to wake
up our sorry dugout um. So yeah,
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that that's can be one of the
reasons. Also, you heard him
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say, I think he said we
were kind of like trying to not look
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ahead to Game seven, but he
had Game seven in mind, like when
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he saw the way that that one
was going. Also, you hope that
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Scott Wedgwood can come in and play
really well, and he did. He
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played pretty well. But I was
a little surprised by that too, because
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for a young goaltender. Granted,
Jake's you know, he's been our starter
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all year long or for two seasons
now, and he has a little bit
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of playoff experience, but he is
a young goaltender. He's a young person,
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and that kind of thing can rattle
you and shake your confidence. But
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if you look at these numbers when
he is in a bad way, it
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usually doesn't go well. If you
can tell that, like he's having one
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of those nights or something's bothering him, like maybe that's what he saw and
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so you just pull him and see, you know what you can get from
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Wedgwood. And then if not he's
rested at least for game seven, go
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full bell for tonight, let's go
what oh yeah, yeah, well,
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or you could go Ottinger, right, go Ottinger, like do what you
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did last year against Calgary in the
playoffs that game seven. It took a
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couple overtimes for Calgary to finally get
rid of the Stars. But Jake Ottinger
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was amazing. And I think,
Kevin, if you look closely tonight,
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you might see a goaltender stand on
his head. Oh, come on,
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you just might. It's just such. So I just hope they have a
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little like cushion for his head or
something, because that, you're right,
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that is dangerous. It would be
very difficult upside down. All the blood
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rushes to your head all of a
sudden, you can't speak very well.
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Yeah. So hopefully the team plays
well in front of him and he won't
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have to. But I think if
that's what it comes down to, he
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just might pull out a pillow and
do a headstand for the whole entire game.
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If the crack and score three or
less, they're dead. Yes,
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that's what we need, yes,
twenty two, one and three this season
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after a lost four too in the
playoffs. That's Jake Ottens, you're that's
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storyline number two. What do we
have next, mister wheel spet ok,
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I guess number five? Scroll scroll
All right, let's talk about the elephant
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in the room. Robertson. Yeah, okay, I have a Robertson observation.
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What's your Robertson observation? My thing
about talking about sportation, my ro
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observation. I enjoy talking about sports
that I'm not like an expert in because
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I just watch it and fake stuff
and then I'd say the stuff I think,
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and then Julie can tell me if
I'm right or wrong. Yeah,
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in Game six, I'm watching it
and at times, like I get it,
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the hockey puck doesn't always stay flat
on the ground. It rolls around,
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and it flips around, it does
all these little moves. But I
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just felt like there was a bunch
of times when Jason Robertson could have made
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a play, and I'm like one
of the leading scores and hockey makes that
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play. What is happening? Like
It's like, whoop, it flipped over
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my stick or whoops, didn't get
that right, And I'm just like,
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are you Are we in our head
here? So I would say yes,
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I would say you're absolutely right on
with that observation. I think there's something
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going on mentally a little bit.
But I also think it just seems like
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he is playing a little slower.
Oh no, then some of the other
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players. There was a point I
think when in the last game Rope Hints
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just totally outscated him and was looking
for someone in Robertson Rope fast. But
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like Rope and Robertson have played together
all season long, they should know.
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Robertson knows he's got to get on
it, get on the horse. If
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you see Rope with the puck,
you get up there right there with him.
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You support him, and you you
you should be there because something's going
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to happen. If Rope has a
puck and he's on your line, he's
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your teammate. So there were a
little there were instances where where Robertson was
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just kind of too slow. Um, and that's not good. He's playing
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a little slower. Playoff games are
generally faster games than regular season games.
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We've talked about how they're more physical
brand of game in the playoff, and
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that's not necessarily something that plays to
his strength. I think he's doing okay
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with that aspect of it, but
it just kind of seems like he can't
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keep up sometimes. Um, it's
not good. He had a gas.
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Is tonight be his ninety fifth game
of the year. Yeah, I mean
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there's he never played ninety five games
in a year before. There's something to
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be said for that. It's a
long season and here you are in games
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seven of your second round. You
know you're another extra thirteen games or something.
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Or you're also super young. You're
super young. This observation I actually
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had. I'm gonna quate this to
the Cheetahs soccer game, which is the
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seven year old soccer game that I
watched on Saturday, because I since I'm
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watching so much hockey, I'm watching
soccer now and like talking to myself about
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how it relates to hockey because now
of the moms very frustrating sports. Yeah,
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and so like there was a kid
who, uh, he is really
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good, and he's really good with
controlling the ball, and he's really good
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with the little like his his foot
skills or whatever you call it in soccer.
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Like he makes a lot of plays. He's he's called dribbling. No,
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but like you know, if you
can Finesse moves, yeah, I
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guess Finesse moves a point guard time. Yeah. Yeah, Well like whatever,
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he does, little tricks vision,
he has little tricks with his feet.
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Good skill, he's skilled. He's
very skilled. Um, and so
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he was kind he had the ball
and this was a big this was a
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big game for the Cheetahs like this, this was a big point, Like
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we needed a goal and this kid
has the ball and he's like just waiting,
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waiting, waiting, waiting. He's
trying to get in the right position.
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He's trying to make sure that there's
no one right on top of him,
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and he's going outside, outside,
outside, and now all of a
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sudden, you lost your shot.
Yeah, And so he shoots it and
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it just goes into the side of
the net. That's kind of what Jason
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Robertson's been doing. Oh, he's
shame at the front. It's kind of
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what Jason Robertson's been doing. When
you're holding onto the puck for too long,
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and you're holding onto the puck for
too long, you're trying to make
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the perfect play in hockey. You'll
hear him say trying to be too cute
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a lot of times, and we're
seeing that a little bit from Jason robertson.
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Just shoot it, just shoot it, just make something happen. And
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that lends me to another one of
the storylines. Things happen in front of
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the net for both of these teams. So let's spend the wheel story line
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game seven. The third storyline for
tonight's game seven, between the Dallas Stars
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and the Seattle kurakin Um, we
have, like I mentioned, the battle
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in front of the net um,
so we've seen most of the offense for
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both of these teams come from right
in front of the net. It's all
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tips as well. He is really
good at that. But when it comes
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to looking at Seattle and the evil
groups, Grubauer, he's the evil groups
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um. So in game five,
when the Stars had a very well played
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game, a dominant win in game
five, they had success in front of
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the net, net fronts success,
if you will. And this is a
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stat that I saw that I liked. Eleven of their fifteen goals versus Grubauer,
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we're off of screens, deflections,
or rebounds. That's that dirty greasy,
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chip away at it kind of goal. He let's see his playoffs save
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percentage um when it comes to shots
including screens, deflections, or rebounds eight
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thirty two, thirteenth out of nineteen
qualified goalies in the playoffs, thirteenth when
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there's something in front of him,
right, Like, that's when he's not
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good. Obviously, if you can
get in front of his eyes, that's
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perfect, if you set a screen
that kind of thing, but basically making
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it messy in front of the net, he's not good at that goal.
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Yes, in the last game was
so awesome. That's why fake evil grooves
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just like stood all the way up
because it's like this thing's going over the
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net and just like, dude,
yes, that's why Pavelski sets up camp
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in front of the net, and
a lot of these guys do without a
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screen, deflection or a rebound.
His save percentage ninety eight, first of
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all of the remaining goaltenders in the
playoffs. So he's really good if he
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can see the puck so ugly it
up in front of evil groups. Let's
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get evil in front of evil groups. The Dallas Stars kind of the same
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way. I would say that is
also the way to attack Jake Ottinger.
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So it's something we need to play
better defense against. Right, don't let
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them get into that area. Score
the first goal, score the first goal,
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but don't let them score twenty seconds
later. The wheel real quick.
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Oh that might be on there,
wheels on couldn't die all right, This
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one's kind of simple. It's game
seven. You have home ice advantage.
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This is what you work so hard
for all season long. You want home
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ice advantage, and now you have
it in a game seven in the playoffs.
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I think there's a lot more value
for home ice in games seven than
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there is in home for home ice
in games one and two. Right,
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if you look at the playoffs this
season and most seasons, if you have
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a situation where there's two games on
someone's home ice, it's usually a split.
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Most of the time, is it. Most of the time has been
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in the playoffs this season? In
the NHL Game seven, you can feel
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it. It matters. You want
your fans to elevate you to a win.
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And like I read in that Pete
Debor quote at the beginning of this
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segment, this is what you work
for. This is what all the blood,
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sweat and tears is for. It's
four game seven. You have home
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ice. You want to be the
one to make the team your opponent feel
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off everything we talk about. Make
them with stand your attack, make them
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on the play on their heels.
Use the home ice tier advantage. You've
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worked hard for it, You've earned
it. The top players need to be
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the top players tonight. Not to
be cliche e coachy, but we need
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more from Tyler, We need more
from Jamie, We need a little bit
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more from Ottinger. We need a
lot more from Robertson. You know what
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if two of those four activate tonight
seriously and do well, that would be
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great. I hope fans are able
to get there by seven. It's hard
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to get anywhere and way traffic works
in this town. I hope there leave
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early from work if you can,
obviously quick but yeah, this is this
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is like a big like green out. Make it uncomfortable, make it incredible,
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yep, make it incredible, um
quickly. My last one I kind
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of referenced Pete de Boor. He's
one of them. He's one of the
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storylines. Guys. He's six and
no as a head coach all time.
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In game seven, let's he's been
waiting. He gets secrets and no the
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longest streak of game seven wins among
head coaches. Um, he's his quote.
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Those are lifetime experiences when you get
to play in game sevens, especially
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in front of your home crowd,
the opportunity to really make a statement and
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move us on to the next round. I'm excited. I think our group's
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excited. Hopefully the Dallas Stars fans
are excited. Oh. By the way,
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if he wins, he gets to
play his former team and the next
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strap. That's cool. He's pumped
up. This team's gonna want to win
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it for him. Tell me if
this would work. Yeah, okay,
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it's game seven. Y tend break
out all the tricks. You win the
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opening face off, You drop the
puck back to Ottinger, who leads the
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break. Okay, this is a
play that you save season. Game starts
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coming down the ice. Okay,
he stopped. He goes by the Stars
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bench, swaps out the gold stick
for a regular stick. He's got all
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that equipment on. He hands it
off to Miro. He leads the way.
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He's got all that body armor on. Just follow him in. That
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would be interesting, That would make
Sports Center. But I don't think we
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need to do that him, stick
with the game plan, protect Jake Ottinger,
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don't put him out on center ice. Um. And and lastly,
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like Jeff, you mentioned better defense. We need better defense tonight. The
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Lindell and Hawk and Pop Harrying was
particularly bad. Um Lindell, who is
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a good defenseman. He is a
core part of this core decore if you
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will very soon trying to do a
little core onwards there. Yeah, he's
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a core part of the core.
Um. But he had a bad game.
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He was on the ice for five
of Seattle's six goals Game six.
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He said, I mean everything went
sideways today. I don't know if I've
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played that bad for a long time. I just felt they got odd Man's
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won battles, all the things we've
been good at before went sideways today.
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Hey, throw it out, put
it in the trash. It's gone.
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It's in the dumpster in Seattle.
Actually, that's where that game is.
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It's a fresh sheet of ice tonight. It's a fresh game. It's Game
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seven, it is. That was
Julie Dobbs her seven storylines for Game seven.
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We'll do our goal picks next.
Plus we'll listen to your talkbacks and
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mix with the Bninskan show right here, ninety seven one, the Freak