Source Material #410 - TMNT x Stranger Things (IDW/Dark Horse, 2023)

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Good day time books around with he Slash and Feelings.
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Take time. We're here too dissect the stormy sub Material
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Bounty Live. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the Source Material
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Comics Podcast. Oh my goodness, we are here to discuss
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teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, one of my favorite things. But
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not only that, we are also going to be discussing
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Stranger Things as the two properties come together in one
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story that's right over there. Alexis Hayna actually pitched this
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to me and surprisingly, like two other people within the
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last month have thrown this my way, and I was like, yeah,
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I'm actually doing a show on it.
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So you know, it's good when that many people are saying, Jesse,
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you gotta talk.
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That's right, right once you let our listeners know what
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we've been doing with Stranger Things is the past past
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few months.
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Absolutely so. After the first trailer dropped for Stranger Things,
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started talking to our boss, mister Mark Radlitch here at
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the Ratilige and Broadcasting Network about how no one had
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done a TV party tonight look at any of the
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past seasons the Stranger Things, which to this day I
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still don't understand. It's like, what do you mean no
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one's done this, right, Stranger Things incorporates everything that everyone
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on this network loves, sci fi, horror, eighties nostalgia. I
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can't figure out why no one wanted to do this.
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So I approached Jesse and suggested that we do a
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retrospective one month, one season.
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That's right.
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We realized that we were actually going to be short
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on content because we had five months to go and
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Stranger thinks season five does not end. As we are
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recording this tonight is December seventeenth. We have only gotten
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four episodes so far. We're getting another four on Christmas
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Day and the finale on New Year's Eve.
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I cannot wait.
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I can't wait either, But yeah, I realized so that
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means we are going to have nothing to talk about
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for one month. So we decided that after doing the
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first four seasons for December, we would take a look
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at a graphic novel. I found this knew I had
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to get it. Those of you who have seen me
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on this show before, you know I have a serious
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weakness full bizarre comic crossovers. I don't know why. I
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just love seeing people try to blend the art styles
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and storytelling of two totally different properties. I'm currently reading
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Gargoyles Meets the Fantastic Four and The Powerpuff Girls meet ThunderCats.
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Nice. I think one of my favorite ones that we
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did was basically The Power Rangers versus Well. I don't
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know if it was a crossover, a Nightmare on Elm
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Street or versus Freddy Krueger. I can't remember exactly.
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That one wasn't even released in print right.
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And it was so good, I mean any right. Comics
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are one of the best mediums to get some of
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the wackiest properties to come together and crossover. I completely
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was not expecting The Turtles to do a book along
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with Stranger Things the Kids from Hawkins. Was not expecting
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that at all, and I wondered if they would pull
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it off very well. That was one of my main concerns.
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I love the Turtles. I'm a big teenage mutant Edja
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Turtles fan, but I'm not paying attention to any of
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the current runs where they're at. IDW Publishing holds the
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TMNT license and Dark Horse holds the Stranger Things license,
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so that's where two publishing companies are coming together to
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create this crossover. I haven't been paying attention to much
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that's happening in the Turtles universe. The last thing I
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read was the Last Ronin. I do know from covers
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in the news that the Turtles have been crossing over
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with just about anything you can imagine.
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We did a comic strip episode looking at the first
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volume of Batman Versus the Ninja Turtles and the animated movie,
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which I loved so much I had to bite it
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on Blu Ray. It's like the fan fiction of our dreams.
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I still have not had a chance to watch it yet.
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I need to sit down. I can't have it to
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where I can just watch it and stream it, but
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I've not done that yet. I think Ronnie and I
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covered Turtles Ghostbusters a while back, and I think there's
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actually more than just one book of that. I think
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they came back together again. It's always fun to watch
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the Turtles work with other properties, and it seems like
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every time they do, they're not hard characters to pair
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up with the Ghostbusters or something like that, because it
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always seems like each Turtle has a pair and the
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analog in that other universe, and we kind of get
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that here too. This came out in twenty twenty three,
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Like I said, idw and dark Horse come together here
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this cross and Company partnership. The series was written by
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Cameron Chittock. He's excited about bringing these two worlds together.
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And then we have art by Pharaoh Pey I'm going
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to go with here. It might be pronounced something different,
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but that's what I'm rolling with. And colors by Sophie Dodgson,
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letters by Russ Wooten. So there you go. That's our
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creative team. What were your expectations going into this book.
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I wasn't one hundred percent certain because I didn't even
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know where this storyline would take place in the Stranger
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Things timeline. So you get it. This takes place between
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seasons two and three of Stranger Things because Ella is
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able to go on the open so this isn't app
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I was like, okay, so she's got some hair, not
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like crazy long hair, but some hair, and we have
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Max with them. So it's after season two. This has
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to take place before season three starts. It's the only
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logical conclusion. I will admit. I was disappointed about one
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little thing, and it's a minor gripe. I know, true
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into Turtle fans don't care, but I'm just gonna complain
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about it. They're going full Eastman layered style. The turtles
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all have the same color bandana, that's right. Sorry, it
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drives me nuts.
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Didn't like it because unless you could.
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See their weapons, although you can't tell which turtle is.
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Which, right, Yeah, you've got to pay attention to the
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dialogue and sometimes the dialogue and even going to help
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you there. I had the same issue. I'm a little
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bit more forgiving just because Eastman and layered turtles are
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what we are shooting for here, which is a different
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brand of the colored bandana turtles, that's for sure, because
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those seem to be a little more lighthearted fair the
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red bandana. Plus you gotta think. Okay, that's one thing
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I really dig about. This book takes place in eighty five,
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which lines up perfectly with the Stranger Things universe, and
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it also kind of lines up perfectly with the east
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Man A layered side of things. The turtles as far
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as the colored bandanas, that stuff isn't going to take
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off for another couple of years. Right now. We're in
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black and white east Man a layered territory. In nineteen
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eighty five, the gritty, violent teenage mutant Ninja Turtles that
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the movie kind of paid homage to a little bit.
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That was one of my first notes. I was like,
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oh my gosh, this is the eighty five Eastmann layered Turtles.
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I'm so excited. This is going to be great.
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The artwork really calls back to them. While they are
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in color, the turtles have much more hooked faces. They're
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not as round. A lot of people forget that the
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turtles personalities. Donnatello does machines and Michaelangelo was the party dude.
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That and the colored bandanas did not happen until the
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eighties TV sharies. I feel so bad. I made this
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artwork for the show. You could see it in the
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background if you're watching this. I couldn't find a good
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high res version of the east aired version of the logo,
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so I was looking at it and it was like, Okay,
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it's either the Michael Bay logo or the eighties TV
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show logo. Screwed. I'm going with the eighties TV show.
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I'm fine with that. That's what I grew up one
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number one, and it wasn't like I was back in
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you know, the eighties, getting Teene Sweeting, Ninja Turtles comics book,
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comic books before the cartoon hit, that's for sure. It
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was all about the cartoon that brought me into the
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world of the ten shooting Edgit Turtles, and then realizing
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they were a comic shortly after that, And even then
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I wasn't picking up like the Archie comics that they
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were probably doing shortly after the cartoon dropped. But yeah,
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let me do the synopsis real quick and then we'll
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go issue by issue. Got our notes here as to
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what I thought, what you thought here? Set in nineteen
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eighty five, between seasons two and three of Stranger Things,
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the crossover begins with the Hawkins kids on a school
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field trip to New York City, where a series of
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strange subway encounters leads them into contact with the teenage
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mutant Ninja Turtles. Well starts as a run in with
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Demo Dogs, quickly escalates when the teams discover hybrid creatures
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combining Demo Dogs with Baxter Stockman's mousers. The groups joined
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forces and uncovered that Stockman working with knowledge passed to
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him by Poppa. That's right, is it, doctor Brenner? Is
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that his name? I think his name in the Stranger
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Things universe has been exploiting on Eleven's psychic abilities to
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study the upside Down and open intered dimensional gates beneath
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the city. As the story unfolds, the threat grows far
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beyond Stockman. The teams learn that U Trom I think
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that's how we spell pronounce it here, or the utrom aliens.
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I've heard U trom and I've heard utrom. Okay, I'll
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go with either the same species as Krang accidentally opened
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a portal to the upside Down while trying to return home,
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only for the mind Flayor to seize control of their
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technology and some of their people. With gates opening across
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New York City and the mind Flair manifesting atop the
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Empire State Building, the heroes race to stop a permanent
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portal from opening in Times Square. Through teamwork, ingenuity, and
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Eleven reclaiming her agency, the gate is closed, the demo
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dogs are driven back to the upside Down, and New
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York is saved. Quietly, the turtles return to the Shadows,
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the kids rejoined their field trip, and the world never
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knows how close it came to catastrophe. Now getting into
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issue number one, like I said, my votes, here is
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the fact that we're opening in nineteen eighty five. I
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absolutely love that weak spot for both franchises. Here. This
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is peak early era TM and T energy in my opinion,
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just like you said, the art style is bringing that
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and that is definitely on purpose. It also felt like
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it fit together here. I dug the field trip set
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up with mister Clark. I thought that was pretty cool.
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That's always the fun part when I get into crossovers
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like this is trying to figure out, Okay, how are
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we going to get these two properties together. Mister Clark
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has taken them to New York City. It felt natural.
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That's pretty believable in my opinion, and it's a smart
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way of getting the kids to New York Italy.
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I did think we were going to see more of
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the older characters. We get a pseudo hopper mostly in
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the second book, and I guess part of me was
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in there going, really, mister Clark, this whole class and
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you don't have any other chaperones. I was honestly expecting
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to see Joyce or Nancy or Jonathan or ste I
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was expecting Jonathan, Nancy and City to be like chaperones
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on this. But I also looked at how has always
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been hovering over with Will since he got abducted, And
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I'm like, really, you let your son go to New
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York City with only his science teacher for adult supervision? Right, Yeah,
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I guess I was expecting to see a few more
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the characters, not upset. I love the kid characters. It
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was really great seeing them. But then we have l
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who shows up cause she's not in the class. She's
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homeschool for lack of better words, She's arranged to meet
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the others, And I'm going, how how did Elle meet
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the others when we know that she you know, Hopper's
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keeping an eye on her because they have to make
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sure she doesn't get seen.
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Right. I wondered about that too, Like how she just
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hop one of us take it to New York so
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I can hang out with the rest of the crew
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and not have people freaking out. Hopper definitely would have
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freaked out. And that's a good point too, like we
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don't get any of the adult characters at all through here.
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And mister Clark, and we might see him once. He's
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mentioned quite a bit.
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You see him at the beginning when he's with the kids,
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and then at the end when he's just like well,
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where the hell were you? And the kids are like,
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we got pulled into the crowd. It was chaos. We
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got screwed over trying to navigate the subway system. We
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had no idea what we were doing. And you know,
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God bless mister Clark. He doesn't ask questions.
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No, he doesn't.
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We've talked about that for the last few seasons of
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the show. Thank God. This man does not ask why
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his students are asking these kind of questions about how
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you build a sensory deprivation tank, how you know what
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is the idea behind parallel to mentions, why are my magnets.
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Not working right?
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Right? God blessed this man for being integral to the plot.
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Amen, Amen, I definitely dug When we see the demo
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dog slash mousers, those are essentially what we see right
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at the beginning here. They hear something down the subway
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and feel like they've heard that noise before. They go
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down there, and sure enough they see these demo dogs,
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but they got mouse or jaws on him. And I
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was like, oh boy, all right, so we're just combining
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things now.
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I am convinced that the mouser the demo mousers as
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Dustin calls them, is how this comic book came to be.
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I'm willing to bet somebody was just drawing. Never read
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the early Eastman Layered comics that showed Mausers, so I
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don't know if they were actually a creation of Eastman
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Layered or if they were a creation of very mantariing series, right,
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because that was my introduction to them. But they have
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those four pronged jaws and it looks a lot like
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a demo Organs. Yeah, yeah, that Flower designs. Like, I
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am so convinced somebody did the demo dogs and realize
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how perfectly they fit in the Mauser mechanics. It's like,
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now I know what we.
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Got to do. They're like, oh, we have definitely got
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to do some more of this. I think my last
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note here for the first issue is I love the
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fact that Stockman, Baxter Stockman knows who eleven is because
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of the whole scientific circles that he runs in. He's
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talked to Papa before, and I think that's kind of
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where we end things. That cliffhanger at the end of
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the first issue, when they climb the building and get
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to the roof and Stockman sitting there with a bunch
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of security guards or I think it's probably Papa's security force.
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That's kind of what I was thinking. You know, this
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is now it's now gone from Okay, he's a Turtle
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villain too, Now he can also be a villain for
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Hawkins and we leave it at that at the end
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of the first issue. So Doug, I like bringing Backtor
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Stockman into this. Obviously we knew we were going to
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get him, and we had the Mausers there like you
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were talking about in the Mauser hybrids.
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I'm assuming it is Hawkins Lab Security because it's not
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the Foot Clan. It is not no Shredder, no Foot
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Clan in this right. Admittedly, I think was a smart move.
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I don't think Shredder and the Foot Clan and Bebop
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and rock Steady or whatever would have actually fit into
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the Stranger Things timeline.
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Right, And I know it's going to be I think
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issue for when we get the Utrauma reveal. That took
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me by surprise, and I'll talk a little bit about
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that when we get to When you don't see Shredder
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but you see something that looks like Krang, You're like, well,
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wait a second, what's going on here? I think there's
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a little bit of a continuity thing that I am
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not completely aware of in regards to the Utrom aliens.
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This feels like something I can't even remember if that
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was in the cartoon. There may have been a cartoon
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featuring the other race, other people of the race of
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krang I can.
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Fill that in. Oh, you say there have been so
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many versions of the Ninja Turtles series or different adaptations, right,
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But I believe the one I'm thinking of was the
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mid two thousands. It was a little darker, little more streamlined,
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and they it was actually kind of brilliant because they've
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made Shredder an Utrom. Okay, Schredder has been on Earth
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for over a thousand years, so he's run the control
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of the Foot clan. This is what we got in
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the Turtles Forever crossover. It really played up the idea
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of the parallel dimension yep. And it's hilarious because yeah,
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nineteen eighty Shredders figures out how to pull another Shredder
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from another dimension and he pulls it and it's the
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Utron that's the Shredder Shredder, and of course that Shredder
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is all gung ho. I want to destroy the world
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pure evil, and he's dealing with the eighties Whiny Shredder
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and it is so fun. I just love that it
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pokes fun at the silliness of the eighties series. And
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they show up and it's like, Okay, we'll get to it,
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but first we gotta rescue April. They don't even know
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what's right. They've been there for like five seconds. They
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automatically know, you know, we had April's already been kidding.
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I remember watching that and I didn't know what I
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was going to be getting into At Turtles Forever, I
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was like, what am I expecting here? And get in
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there and it's everything I wanted it to be, with
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a nod to the black and white comic, you know,
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towards the end, if I remember correctly.
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That is like the original dimension. I love that they
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poke fun at how the Turtles always broke the fourth
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wall with one of the rests like, what are.
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You doing awesome? Well, did you have any notes for
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issue one? Anything else that I may have not brought
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up that you liked?
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Well, that was mostly my notes. I did not understand
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how eleven got to New York on her own when
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Hopp is clearly not involved. I think it would have
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made more sense if the older kids or even Joyce
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was there as a chaperone, right. I think Hopper would
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have been a little more understanding about letting l go
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to New York if he knew that Joyce was there.
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Yeah, so few minor plot holes. Those were my notes,
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the whole concept of oh my god, that's definitely how
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this came about. The demo mouser yea design.
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As we roll on the issue too, we don't get
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much of a fight if I remember correctly. The and
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I may not have mentioned this, I don't think I did,
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But we got two teams if I remember correctly, we
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got one team that is going after the when they
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realize what is going on. One team's going after the
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try to find the rift to the upside down, and
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the other team, yeah Gate the other team is going
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to investigate Stockman and find out what they can there.
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The other team is who.
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Dustin, eleven and Max are with the Raff and Donnie
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looking for it. Because we do get this big thing
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on the first issue. Again, this is pure Raphael. They
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asked that. They basically say she needs to do the
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thing where she closes her eyes tightly covers them up
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so she can access her psychic powers and figure out
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where Stockman is, and Raff gives her one of the
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band and and but you haven't earned this yet. I'm like, okay,
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take a chill pill Raft. Oh, come on, everyone's been
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doing that. So that leaves Lucas, Mike, and Will to
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go with Michaelangelo and Leonardo to try to find the
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risk Rift and the others are going to find Stockman
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and to figure out what's going on, right, and yeah,
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basically ends with them getting swarmed, and then you cut
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through a little fan art we see back at home.
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So yeah, this took week. This threw me for a
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loop where she's You're like, oh, she's sitting at home.
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Maybe is this a flashback? No, we find out that's
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not the case. This is some type of psychic realm
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that the Baxtra Stockman is trying to invade her mind
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to make her open a rift to the upside down.
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And threw me at first because I saw Hopper there
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and I'm like, okay, well, what is this. This is
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just a flashback? No, this is actually what's going on
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in her head. He's taken the form of Hopper to
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convince her to use her powers to which in the
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actual world she is starting to open up a rift
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on the wall the lab, but the rest of them
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are thrown in two individual cells, which is.
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Hilarious because they're spending all that. Because you hear Dustin
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and Donna Tello trying to figure out how to do
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the lock because they're both the Branches and al Asden.
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There's this crash and Raft goes the locks might be special,
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but the.
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Doors at that's right. This this very Raft to me.
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I mean, I Raf has always been the Gruff. He's
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my favorite. By the way, Raff is my favorite turtle.
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This felt like him. He's still rough around the edges,
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aggressive and of course he's be the one that breaks
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the door down to get the rest of the team
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out of there. I did.
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It reminds me of a scene from ever After, and
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I know that's weird as hell, but you haven't seen
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where a characters locked in a cellar and everyone's trying
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to break the lock to get her out. Leonardo da
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Vinci comes and goes hang on. Instead of going to
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the lock, he goes to the hinges and just pulls
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We'll see the hinges and they all go that was brilliant.
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He goes, yeah, I'll go down in history is the
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man who opened a door.
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That's funny. The other thing I liked about this raf
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is consumed about getting his weapons back. So they took
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their weapons and he wants his size back, which felt
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very nineteen n you know, the teenage meeting of the
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Turtle's movie. To me, I lost a sigh. He's very
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upset about it. It's like he's lost a piece of
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him self. As we progress further through the issue, when
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you look at Will and Mike and lucas they finally
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find the rift, it's in a subway car. Great setting
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choice in my opinion. We're in the subway, it's underneath
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the ground, and it's dark, it's scary. It's this perfect
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blend of horror along with the right at Home for
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the teacher mutant Ninja turtles here. That ending though of
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issue too, when the demicgorgans that come out of the
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rift and they're trying to figure out like, okay, the
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turtles are going to protect the kids, so the kids
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are kind of in the back. One of them says
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they want to join the party, which is a very
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role playing game thing, and the turtles are trying to
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take these demo organs out but end up getting overwhelmed
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and their weapons get tossed aside, so the nunchucks and
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the katanas are laying on the ground and the end
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of that issue is awesome where Lucas I think it's
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Lucas and Mike each grab a katan ar. Maybe it's
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Mike and Will each grab a katana and Lucas.
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Has got a nunchu. Yes, I think Lucas the time
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to join the part.
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I love that totally metal. It was, if I remember correctly,
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a full page splash and they're sitting there with those
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weapons in their hands. That is so awesome. And that's
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where we end it too, right, Like that's the end
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of issue too, Yes it is. I was like, okay,
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I am here for this. This is something that Number
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one it's looking great. Number two, I'm just sitting here thinking,
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what are these kids going to do? They need to
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help the turtles out. It's gonna be fun to watch
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them jump in and join the fight. And I can't
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wait for issue three. So any thoughts on issue too there.
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It is really creepy the way that baxterspondments got hooked
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up in that alternate reality. This has been done in
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so many other fictions, but the one I always look
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at is Gravity Falls. When Bill Cipher is released, he
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takes control of Mabel, but he doesn't torture her. He
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puts her in an alternate reality that is everything she's
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ever wanted. It is just pure joy. And he talks
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about how only the strongest will in the world can
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break three of something like that, you know, or the
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Man Who Has Everything graphic novel.
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By Alan Moore, Superman.
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You know. It's like the idea to give you what
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you want and then take it away. And even though
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this isn't Elle's perfect dream, obviously, she's with her adopted
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dad and he's saying, go ahead and use your powers.
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I'm not going to hold you back anymore. And you
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gotta know, that's probably something that she's been wanting for
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a long time.
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Yeah, And I remember sitting there going like, what is
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going on here? But just like you said, you finally
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learn shortly thereafter that, Okay, it's Baxter Stockman doing this.
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I can't remember if an issue too they because I
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just got my truncated notes here. But is it an
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issue too where they decided to. They figured out a
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way to hook Raf up to it to get him
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in there. I can't remember if that happens or not.
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It is because yeah, where's the page here?
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I remember.
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Yeah, this is a little hard to judge the two storylines.
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We got the kids on the subway, the kids in
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the lab, and Elle's mind. Everything it does jump back
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and forth between them, but yeah, I just love it's
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like knock knock crash, just standing at the door, kool
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aid Man style.
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So they've got a plan to get her, at least
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trying to get her to wake up. Because if I
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remember correctly, the reason they could not just like unplugged
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things is because it would hurt the host. A. Stockman
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made it that way because it seems like the lab
477
00:24:33.839 --> 00:24:37.519
people were not very I don't think you could trust
478
00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:40.400
the lab people. Because he knew that one of them
479
00:24:40.440 --> 00:24:43.160
might feel bad about what's happening, so he put in
480
00:24:43.160 --> 00:24:45.319
a little fail safe and said, well, if you disconnect
481
00:24:45.400 --> 00:24:48.440
us somehow, she will get she gets harmed in some way.
482
00:24:48.799 --> 00:24:51.559
He's probably realized he's been screwed over by shred or
483
00:24:51.599 --> 00:24:53.720
too many times, and he's just like, you know what,
484
00:24:53.799 --> 00:24:56.960
I'm going to hold onto the control just a little longer.
485
00:24:56.880 --> 00:24:58.880
Right, all right? Anything else for issue too before we
486
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get an issue three again.
487
00:25:00.680 --> 00:25:03.000
My only complaint, and it's a minor thing, is I
488
00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:05.519
wish we had more of a clear cut between the
489
00:25:05.680 --> 00:25:08.759
different story arcs, especially near the end. I'm going back
490
00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:11.480
to where you have l in her fantasy, and everything
491
00:25:11.559 --> 00:25:13.240
is very red, but then we cut back to the
492
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subway near the gate, which is also red. I think
493
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I would have liked a little bit of a variety
494
00:25:18.039 --> 00:25:21.640
in some of the palette choices to help differentiate where
495
00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:24.359
we are in the story were just when you read
496
00:25:24.400 --> 00:25:27.200
it again, you can easily tell, but I think something
497
00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:28.759
like that would have been a lot better.
498
00:25:29.039 --> 00:25:32.759
Yeah, and I understand what they're trying to do is
499
00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:36.759
show you, like what's happening in real time. Okay, this
500
00:25:36.799 --> 00:25:38.599
is happening here, and then a short burst here, and
501
00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:41.200
then we come back to this and a short burst
502
00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:43.519
back to that. But I kind of agree with you,
503
00:25:43.559 --> 00:25:46.599
and let's just divide the issue by two and we'll
504
00:25:46.680 --> 00:25:49.880
kind of follow what's happening here and then we'll jump
505
00:25:50.039 --> 00:25:52.279
to the subway and see what's happening in the subway.
506
00:25:52.319 --> 00:25:54.319
For the rest of the issue. I don't know if
507
00:25:54.359 --> 00:25:56.839
it took me out too much, but I can understand
508
00:25:56.839 --> 00:25:59.359
what you're saying there for sure, because there were a
509
00:25:59.400 --> 00:26:00.960
couple of times where I was like, okay, where am
510
00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:01.559
I at? Now?
511
00:26:01.799 --> 00:26:01.880
Oh?
512
00:26:01.920 --> 00:26:04.119
Okay, I see a katana. All right, so I'm back
513
00:26:04.119 --> 00:26:05.759
in the subway.
514
00:26:05.759 --> 00:26:07.799
So obviously we have to keep the area around the
515
00:26:07.880 --> 00:26:10.759
rift red. I got that. And we have more of
516
00:26:10.759 --> 00:26:14.200
a clear, lighter color with white backgrounds for the lab.
517
00:26:14.359 --> 00:26:18.839
I get that. So so how about in the cabin
518
00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:22.279
we go with blue or green as the color. Just
519
00:26:22.359 --> 00:26:26.000
something like that to make it easier to tell when
520
00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:28.799
you're switching points of view. I agree, Just something I
521
00:26:28.880 --> 00:26:30.000
personally would have done better.
522
00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:32.960
Sure, anything else before we get into the issue.
523
00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:37.319
Three, let's go ahead and move on as l realizing Okay, well,
524
00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:40.240
if it's like he's playing in our minds, I don't
525
00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:43.200
have telecot whatever, But who do you really think is
526
00:26:43.200 --> 00:26:44.839
in control here? Yeah?
527
00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:47.559
Raft finally get into her. That was my first note,
528
00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:51.279
is him getting into that psychic vision whatever she's having here,
529
00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:54.960
And you know, it's awesome to see him kind of
530
00:26:54.960 --> 00:26:57.119
talk her through it and be like, you're like the
531
00:26:57.160 --> 00:27:00.519
strongest person here, because at this point Stockman's taken off
532
00:27:00.519 --> 00:27:03.000
the facade. He's showing that he's the threat.
533
00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:07.160
The speech that Raf gives to L when he finally understands,
534
00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:09.519
you know, she wasn't just born with these powers. I
535
00:27:09.559 --> 00:27:12.079
get the feeling in the earlier issues Raff thought she
536
00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:16.039
was born with the powers or something, and realizing that
537
00:27:16.160 --> 00:27:19.160
she was given her abilities similar to how he was bought,
538
00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:23.119
you know, through the accident with the ooze, and he
539
00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:24.960
identifies her a little bit more. And again I love
540
00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:27.240
this speech. So we didn't have a choice in how
541
00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:30.160
we were made. Who cares the lunatic over there sees
542
00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:32.119
that as a weakness. Say, it's a badge of honor
543
00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:34.839
that we're still standing. Every choice you make adds up
544
00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:36.960
and after a while you're not a test subject or
545
00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:41.119
a mistake, You're you Yeah. Great, great speech really, and
546
00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:42.920
of course it has to come from wrath.
547
00:27:43.039 --> 00:27:45.839
It has to yep. I just go ahead and mark
548
00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:48.519
that off right now, because that was that was my note.
549
00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:51.359
There was about that speech that he gives to L
550
00:27:51.680 --> 00:27:54.359
and how she takes control at that point and is
551
00:27:54.400 --> 00:27:58.799
able to get herself out of this safely. She's using
552
00:27:58.799 --> 00:28:02.279
her powers and she is I mentioned agency in the summary.
553
00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:04.759
This is the point where she kind of reclaims and
554
00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:07.599
understands that she is who she is, and she has
555
00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:09.960
these powers and she can use them just like you said,
556
00:28:09.960 --> 00:28:13.720
you are you My next note, I think I probably
557
00:28:13.759 --> 00:28:15.920
did three or four things for each issue, but my
558
00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:19.000
next note is definitely going back to the subway battle
559
00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:22.079
between the Demogorgans and the turtles.
560
00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:25.400
Let me guess that's on fire.
561
00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:30.359
We look at that two paid spread right there of
562
00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:32.640
them like, I think it's Will. It's either Will or
563
00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:34.920
Mike or maybe you know one of them's like, yeah,
564
00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:38.519
these things don't like fire. And I'll be.
565
00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:41.880
Perfectly blunt here unless you are paying close attention to
566
00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:44.000
what the kids are wearing because it is soaked in
567
00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:50.160
red and orange, right it, Will and Mike look virtually identical.
568
00:28:50.759 --> 00:28:53.200
And there are multiple times it's like, wait, which one
569
00:28:53.240 --> 00:28:55.079
was which I legit cannot tell.
570
00:28:55.319 --> 00:28:57.839
Somebody gets the brilliant idea though, to be like, these
571
00:28:57.839 --> 00:29:02.039
things don't like fire, and they light the weapons. Michaelangelo
572
00:29:02.839 --> 00:29:06.599
and Leonardo go to town with these lit weapons, and it's
573
00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:10.440
I mean, gosh, it looked cool. I think he it's
574
00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:14.880
Will that uses the tentacles or whatever those things are
575
00:29:14.960 --> 00:29:18.880
that are coming from the rift and like wraps them
576
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:23.759
around the katana and lights that on fire, which is
577
00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:24.519
pretty frequent.
578
00:29:24.559 --> 00:29:27.400
Cool, it makes sense. Otherwise, how the hell is the
579
00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:31.000
a sword and nunchucks lighting on fire without any fuel?
580
00:29:31.160 --> 00:29:31.319
Right?
581
00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:32.319
It be that?
582
00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:36.640
Yeah? Great visual right there. Absolutely loved it. And then
583
00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:38.839
as we get towards the end, that's where we get
584
00:29:38.839 --> 00:29:41.960
our utrom reveal. For me, I'm reading this and again
585
00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:46.839
not steeped in the old classic continuity. I have so
586
00:29:46.920 --> 00:29:48.960
much respect for it, but I don't know everything that
587
00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:53.559
happened in the black and white comics. Seeing Krang, I
588
00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:55.799
was like, oh, is that Krang? Is it actually going
589
00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:58.240
to be Krag? But no, it ends up being part
590
00:29:58.480 --> 00:30:03.039
of his speci. They start to realize that there is
591
00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:06.119
a lot more afoot here. They start to realize that, okay,
592
00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:09.880
these these are interdimensional beings as well. They have crossed
593
00:30:09.880 --> 00:30:14.079
over to our dimension. And now it's starting to what
594
00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:18.119
is going on here? Why is the Utroms involved? At
595
00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:20.880
this point, they have gone through the rift and found
596
00:30:20.960 --> 00:30:26.759
these things inside the upside down, So again, mysteries abound.
597
00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:28.880
I loved it. I don't know if you had anything
598
00:30:28.920 --> 00:30:30.880
else you wanted to say about the u Troum.
599
00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:35.759
Reveal, Well, it's a good thing that utraumare apparently fireproof,
600
00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:39.960
since I guess it's Will just lights it on fire
601
00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:43.359
and that's how get It's similar to the ending of
602
00:30:43.359 --> 00:30:45.519
season two when they heat up Will to get the
603
00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:47.799
pieces of the mind flare out of them. But can
604
00:30:47.839 --> 00:30:50.480
we just talk about how awesome this page is?
605
00:30:50.640 --> 00:30:52.640
Oh my, is this our last page?
606
00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:57.920
Yes, the mind Flayer on top of the Empire State Building.
607
00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:00.000
Crossing the note off right now. That was my final
608
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:05.279
because that picture is freaking cool. When we were watching
609
00:31:05.359 --> 00:31:08.359
season two, I was like, how big is this thing?
610
00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:12.400
And right there you can kind of get the idea
611
00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:16.319
of scale that the mind Flavor has, as I mean,
612
00:31:16.759 --> 00:31:20.960
what other monument can you have where something is scaling
613
00:31:20.960 --> 00:31:24.839
a building homage to King Gong here, But no, it's
614
00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:27.480
the mind Flair. It felt, you know, seeing that last
615
00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:29.920
page again, every single issue was like, oh my gosh,
616
00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:32.319
I got to get to the next because the way
617
00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:34.839
they leave us is like something's going to happen or
618
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:36.880
something huge is going on, and I had to read
619
00:31:36.920 --> 00:31:41.319
the next issue for sure. That is a beautiful and
620
00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:43.440
fantastic and horrifying visual.
621
00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:46.480
I also love what they're questioning the other The other
622
00:31:46.519 --> 00:31:50.119
group is questioning Stockman. They got him tied up and
623
00:31:50.440 --> 00:31:52.839
they're trying to figure out what's going on, and Stockman
624
00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:54.720
just you know, it's like, why do you think everyone
625
00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:57.880
wants eleven? She's a tool and Eleven uses her psychic past.
626
00:31:58.000 --> 00:32:01.839
Go shut up, and she doesn't slap the powers to slap.
627
00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:04.519
I think he might see a handprint or an imprint
628
00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:08.039
on his face, but nobody is touching him. It's funny, Yeah,
629
00:32:08.279 --> 00:32:09.039
really good line.
630
00:32:09.079 --> 00:32:13.160
And here this was an alternate cover. Leonard Leonards has
631
00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:15.759
got the sort facing the sorry about the glare here,
632
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:18.000
but facing the mind flare.
633
00:32:18.200 --> 00:32:20.279
Oh my god, awesome.
634
00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:23.359
Is like heavy metal album cover.
635
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:26.559
Perfecttion, love it, love it.
636
00:32:26.599 --> 00:32:29.000
Farah Pay who drew this or did this one?
637
00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:32.680
You rock so much? I agree when you're doing something
638
00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:35.319
like this and you're like, Okay, I am going to
639
00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:38.839
pay honor to the mid eighties black and white comics.
640
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:43.079
He did a fantastic job doing that throughout this whole book.
641
00:32:43.559 --> 00:32:46.640
As far as visual style and how these characters look.
642
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:49.519
We're going to get another great nod to the eighties
643
00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:51.680
turtles here. I think in the next issue. I don't
644
00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:53.079
think it happened in the third issue. I believe it
645
00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:56.599
happens in the fourth regardless. You can't do that with
646
00:32:56.680 --> 00:33:00.640
a real clean art style. It's gotta be great, kind
647
00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:04.279
of grimy, and it's just got to be done right.
648
00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:08.680
And I think that they did perfect here. I agree
649
00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:12.200
with you one hundred percent. All right, Well, before we
650
00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:14.680
get into issue fod did you have my notes on
651
00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:17.200
issue Ford? Did you have any notes on issue three?
652
00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:19.000
Any ones we didn't get a chance to talk about.
653
00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:21.680
I guess it's like Austin artwork with the mind flair
654
00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:25.519
love the little psychic slap. Actually, I'm glad you brought
655
00:33:25.559 --> 00:33:28.880
up about wrapping the vines of the upside Down around
656
00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:30.880
the web. I did have to do a double take, going, wait,
657
00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:34.119
how the hell is the blade on fire? Metal doesn't
658
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:34.880
burn like that?
659
00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:37.240
Yeah, we were talking about the utrom and he started
660
00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:41.359
to talk about this, but yeah, will lights the tentacles
661
00:33:41.400 --> 00:33:43.319
that are going into the utrom, which I thought was
662
00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:45.680
dead by the way, I thought the utron was dead.
663
00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:49.119
And one of the turtles grabs a hold of him
664
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:51.559
and so what are you doing? And he's like, I'm
665
00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:54.160
saving him. The vines kind of peel off or burn
666
00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:56.480
off the Utrom alien here, which I don't think we
667
00:33:56.519 --> 00:33:58.240
do get a name. I don't think he's Fred or
668
00:33:58.240 --> 00:34:00.799
anything like that. He come, you know, he's a lot.
669
00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:02.759
I love that.
670
00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:06.279
You know he's he's actually alive. So they are going
671
00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:08.679
to we got an alive oo Trump. We're going to
672
00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:11.119
find out what exactly is going on. I'm sure so
673
00:34:11.960 --> 00:34:15.719
okay Issue four. Here's my notes for issue four. I
674
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:19.800
loved how we get Max involved here, and she's one
675
00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:21.880
of the smart ones to come up with a plan
676
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:27.159
to get the demo Mousers who are part of the pack.
677
00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:29.639
We learned from Baxter Stockman that the reason we created
678
00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:31.840
them was so they could go in with the pack
679
00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:34.000
of the rest of the demo dogs, follow them back
680
00:34:34.039 --> 00:34:36.519
through the rift, learn more about the home and report
681
00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:38.400
back or whatever technology.
682
00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:40.519
He had just put a go pro on.
683
00:34:41.480 --> 00:34:44.199
Right, Well, she gets the idea like supposedly these things
684
00:34:44.239 --> 00:34:48.320
could communicate with the demo dogs, so she's grab some
685
00:34:48.440 --> 00:34:51.280
kind of portable monitor or something. Her plan is to
686
00:34:51.480 --> 00:34:54.159
get one of these demo dogs to one of the
687
00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:57.599
Demo Mousers to convince the rest of the pack to
688
00:34:57.639 --> 00:35:01.400
go in through the rift, therefore eliminating that threat. Hey,
689
00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:03.960
Max coming up with the idea. Great, love to see
690
00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:11.960
it Mirage era Casey Jones, April O'Neal showing up here.
691
00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:15.719
We have the dark hair April O'Neal, which is clearly
692
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:22.840
Mirage continuity, Casey Broocking Nut Bullets nineteen eighty five. All
693
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:26.079
the way, Casey Jones is my second favorite Turtle character.
694
00:35:26.119 --> 00:35:27.199
I would say two.
695
00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:31.559
I freaking love Casey Jones. I always have. They hate
696
00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:34.079
the Michael Bay movies. It's like, dude, Stephen Emmel's an
697
00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:37.239
amazing actor, but he's not Casey Jones.
698
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:39.960
Yeah, I had issues with that. I didn't watch a
699
00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:43.800
lot of the Nickelodeon Turtles, but I remember watching a
700
00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:45.480
few episodes I had Casey and it I felt like
701
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:47.679
he was done well in that too. I mean so,
702
00:35:48.239 --> 00:35:50.920
I really I'm always been a fan of Casey Joe,
703
00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:52.800
So it was cool to see them. The Turtles are like, yeah,
704
00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:54.559
we got some friends that'll get us over there. Because
705
00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:57.119
I think that the team, the team at the Lab
706
00:35:57.159 --> 00:35:58.960
are trying to figure out after they had figured out
707
00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:01.400
this portal I think is going to open is and
708
00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:04.079
is going to open on top of the Empire State
709
00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:06.800
Building or is this in some other building. I mean,
710
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:08.840
we saw the mind flare on the Empire State Building,
711
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:11.480
so I thought that's where this portal's going to open.
712
00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:14.519
But I don't think they disclose it as far as
713
00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:15.960
I know. I feel like it's just at the top
714
00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:17.039
of a building somewhere.
715
00:36:17.960 --> 00:36:20.039
Okay, this is one of the few things I really
716
00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:20.880
don't like in this book.
717
00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:25.320
We've got the two You didn't like that, Oh my gosh,
718
00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:28.840
I love that. That's my next note. First Off, you
719
00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:31.599
got to think about what they're trying and convey with
720
00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:34.960
the medium here. They have a comic book and they've
721
00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:38.400
got to try and show the upside down that page.
722
00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:42.599
Those two pages are probably the second thing that really
723
00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:44.960
spawned them to be like, Okay, we got to do
724
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:48.039
this upside down thing for sure. With the TMNT, I
725
00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:50.239
got a great idea for a couple of splash pages.
726
00:36:50.360 --> 00:36:54.199
But no, I love that because they're showing what's happening. Granted,
727
00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:57.039
you have to turn the book upside down, but that's
728
00:36:57.079 --> 00:36:59.079
something you can do with a comic book, which makes
729
00:36:59.119 --> 00:37:01.239
it really cool in my opinion. And we get the
730
00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:05.159
big portal in the middle of the page. It shows
731
00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:07.079
you they're working on trying to get this portal. That
732
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:09.519
whole thing came together for me. I loved it. I
733
00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:12.039
hate that you didn't like it, but I understand that just.
734
00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:14.199
Kind of gave me a headache trying to understand it.
735
00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:16.880
I mean, it's still cool artwork, but I don't know
736
00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:18.159
personal things, all right.
737
00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:25.440
So my next big moment is when Mike and Leo's team,
738
00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:29.280
after talking to the Utram Alien, learned that the Utroms
739
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:31.480
are trying to get back to their own universe. They
740
00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:34.480
opened up a portal to the upside down, and now
741
00:37:34.519 --> 00:37:37.199
the mind Flare has a good idea of using that
742
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:42.599
technology to create a rift in Times Square. So they're
743
00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:44.880
going to open up this huge portal in Times Square.
744
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:47.679
So our team, Mike's team is trying to figure out
745
00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:49.480
a way to go in there and stop that. That's
746
00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:51.480
where this two page blash comes in. They find the
747
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:54.039
building and they're heading up to this device that's on
748
00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:56.599
top of this building. Meanwhile, you have the team in
749
00:37:56.639 --> 00:37:59.679
our world, Max's team and Max and Donnie so trying
750
00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:02.519
to get to the same spot. Essentially, they figure out
751
00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:05.960
that that's where things are going to be happening. Then
752
00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:12.280
we have the moment where Eleven is getting ready to
753
00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:14.880
face I think a bunch of demo dogs. They're trying
754
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:18.159
to scuttle these things up the stairs into this portal
755
00:38:18.559 --> 00:38:21.000
and get them out of there. This is where Wrath
756
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:22.840
finally sir.
757
00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:25.840
It's like, you know what you've earned this now?
758
00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:29.079
Yeah? And what a high point here, you know. She
759
00:38:29.159 --> 00:38:31.320
grabs the face mask. That's probably the best term I
760
00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:33.639
always I've always called them bandanas for some reason. You
761
00:38:33.639 --> 00:38:37.239
can go back and many years of podcasts and realize
762
00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:40.840
that I've called them bandanas, which their face masks, I guess.
763
00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:43.199
But anyway, she puts the face mask on, she has
764
00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:46.639
the eye holes, and she is wearing this thing, and
765
00:38:46.679 --> 00:38:50.480
she lets loose. We will show them who we are.
766
00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:54.800
What a powerful moment. One of my favorite moments there.
767
00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:55.800
Have you got anything on that?
768
00:38:56.599 --> 00:38:59.519
Mostly just laughing about Dustin asking Casey if you can
769
00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:01.239
borrow one of his baseball baths.
770
00:39:01.639 --> 00:39:06.679
Yeah, he's like this, these work on these things. He knows.
771
00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:09.320
Do you find it kind of funny that April is
772
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:12.360
now on crowd control while Casey joins in the action.
773
00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:15.199
Yeah. So my next note is they finally get up
774
00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:17.199
to the device, and they've got to get the other
775
00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:20.000
team out through the rift, get all the demo dogs
776
00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:23.079
and mousers or whatever through the other side into the
777
00:39:23.159 --> 00:39:27.159
upside down and then essentially destroy the device. It's Dustin
778
00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:30.320
and Raff who throws some stuff at it. Basically Raft
779
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:32.320
throws his sigh. He finally got a side back, you know,
780
00:39:32.360 --> 00:39:34.559
and then he's throwing it back into this machine. I
781
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:39.480
can't remember what Dustin threw, as probably as a baseball bat, right. Yeah,
782
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:42.719
it's simple, it's effective. It's symbolic of teamwork. These two
783
00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:45.840
teams came together and they destroyed the device and in
784
00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:49.880
the crisis here, so they don't really overpower the villain,
785
00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:52.239
which is you know this, this is the other thing,
786
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:54.360
you know, you got to treat with kind of kid
787
00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:57.199
gloves as the continuity of each of these things, you
788
00:39:57.239 --> 00:39:59.719
definitely don't want to mess with the continuity stranger things.
789
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:02.840
And considering this came out in twenty twenty three, were
790
00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:05.880
past season four at this point if I remember correctly,
791
00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:09.000
so they cannot go back unless they were going to
792
00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:11.079
be like, well, this isn't canon. But they don't really
793
00:40:11.079 --> 00:40:13.840
do anything by overpowering the mind Flare. They just essentially
794
00:40:13.880 --> 00:40:16.760
stop it from taking over New York City. So I
795
00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:18.679
think it was a good way of ending the crisis
796
00:40:19.119 --> 00:40:22.760
any thoughts, do love.
797
00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:25.159
The ending with them talking with the Utroms. They don't
798
00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:27.400
blame them. The Utroms were not trying to open up
799
00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:29.960
a path to the upside down. They were trying to Again,
800
00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:32.920
this is what it's called in the eighties cartoon they
801
00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:34.280
call it dimension x X.
802
00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:34.920
That's right.
803
00:40:35.239 --> 00:40:40.039
So I don't know if that is mirage comics accurate,
804
00:40:40.440 --> 00:40:42.559
but that's what I'm going to go with. That is
805
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:45.000
the problem with Ninja Turtles. And it's not a problem
806
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:47.599
per se, but it's that there have been so many versions,
807
00:40:48.800 --> 00:40:54.280
many shows, movies, right, It's just like, which continuity are
808
00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:55.400
we talking about it?
809
00:40:55.639 --> 00:40:58.679
Concerts? From what I understand, Shredder does not like music.
810
00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:01.960
Oh God, did you have to forget.
811
00:41:01.639 --> 00:41:11.000
That he hates music? We should know this. You have
812
00:41:11.199 --> 00:41:13.960
no idea how many times I listened to the going
813
00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:17.760
what is It Coming out of Our Shells oll soundtrack, which,
814
00:41:17.800 --> 00:41:21.880
by the way, that song is not on Spotify. You
815
00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:23.679
have to go to YouTube to find that thing. But
816
00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:27.199
he definitely hates music. Maybe that's why he isn't involved here.
817
00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:29.079
He's off somewhere out of.
818
00:41:29.039 --> 00:41:31.239
Our shells or is on Spotify?
819
00:41:31.559 --> 00:41:35.719
Yes it is. I listened to that repeatedly in twenty
820
00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:40.039
twenty to twenty twenty one. There's a Spotify rapped that
821
00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:44.559
has that as my number one album. Kidding you that
822
00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:49.519
time you got through COVID, lot of our things were bad.
823
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:54.920
I'll have to find that rapped because I know I
824
00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:58.280
screenshot at it. You wouldn't believe. The summer of twenty
825
00:41:58.280 --> 00:42:02.000
twenty was me to that over and over and also
826
00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:04.679
trying to remain sane because of the amount of overtime
827
00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:09.400
I was working. Obviously it didn't work too well. So
828
00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:12.280
you're talking about the utroms here. I forgot about it
829
00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:14.559
and it's not on my notes, but I remember they
830
00:42:14.719 --> 00:42:19.639
rescue the one utrom that the first thing.
831
00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:22.559
Yeah, yeah, diensional portal.
832
00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:26.239
The look when you look at his face. I don't know,
833
00:42:26.840 --> 00:42:29.079
because I was thinking, I don't know if he's fully
834
00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:32.840
in control of his faculties. Here he doesn't say a
835
00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:37.079
word after he's rescued. It's still the other one talking. Oh.
836
00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:39.280
I kind of wonder if they were like, Okay, let's
837
00:42:39.400 --> 00:42:42.800
leave this little bit and make people realize that maybe
838
00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:45.400
the mind flare isn't done with this utrom. Who knows,
839
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:48.639
but anyway, I liked that little bit. They didn't let
840
00:42:48.719 --> 00:42:50.719
him talk, they didn't let him do anything. It seemed
841
00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:55.079
very It seemed very like almost will buy ours ish
842
00:42:55.079 --> 00:42:57.840
where everything's okay and then he throw or you know,
843
00:42:57.880 --> 00:43:03.360
he peers, right. So anyway, and I do love this.
844
00:43:03.639 --> 00:43:05.480
When the Turtles and the kids are all saying goodbye,
845
00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:07.800
Mike says, you know, well you could always come visit
846
00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:10.519
us in Indiana and all that's opening that will basically
847
00:43:10.559 --> 00:43:12.440
be like the Times Square of Hawking.
848
00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:19.360
Yeah, foreshadowing Star Court. Oh my goodness, Yeah, that's exactly
849
00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:22.079
what I have written down here. The closing are quiet, goodbye,
850
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:25.000
the continuity nod to what's going on here, the kids
851
00:43:25.039 --> 00:43:27.440
rejoining the field trip and the Turtles kind of disappearing
852
00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:29.840
back into the city felt good. I mean, I know,
853
00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:31.719
I since you a message shortly after I had read
854
00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:34.880
this that I really enjoyed this. We already talked. I
855
00:43:34.920 --> 00:43:37.599
gushed about the art style already and again it has
856
00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:39.480
to be handled with deft hands to kind of make
857
00:43:39.559 --> 00:43:42.559
this feel like it should fit together. And I think
858
00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:45.039
it was done. They did a great job, in my opinion.
859
00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:47.400
I'm glad this is something that's out there. This could
860
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:50.840
have sucked really bad because if you don't have the
861
00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:54.400
right people understanding what's going on in both franchises here,
862
00:43:55.639 --> 00:43:57.920
it could have been done completely. They made a point
863
00:43:57.920 --> 00:43:59.800
to be like, no, this is taking place between here
864
00:43:59.840 --> 00:44:02.199
and here, and this fits perfectly because this is what's
865
00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:04.199
happening over here at this point in time. A great
866
00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:06.239
job in my opinion. So I leave it to you
867
00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:07.360
for the final word here.
868
00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:10.639
I was just looking at some of the artwork that's
869
00:44:10.679 --> 00:44:12.960
in the final few pages. We get a lot of
870
00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:16.159
the sample covers that didn't end up getting picked. But
871
00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:18.880
one of my favorites the series done by Adam Gorum
872
00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:22.840
that showed the kids and the turtles playing dungeons and dragons.
873
00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:25.519
Oh really, it actually shows what each.
874
00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:27.920
Of them play as. So we got Donna Tello, who's an.
875
00:44:27.880 --> 00:44:30.679
Artificer okay, perfect.
876
00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:37.320
Michael Angelo is a gnome, all right, Leonardo is a paladin.
877
00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:42.239
Okay, all right, perfect, no question right, and a barbarian
878
00:44:42.360 --> 00:44:47.960
Barbarian actually druid Druid okay, although I think.
879
00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:49.239
They should have gone with Barbarian.
880
00:44:49.519 --> 00:44:51.039
I don't know much about D and D, but that
881
00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:52.519
Druid seems kind of odd.
882
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:54.880
I don't get why they said Michaelangel is anome. It's
883
00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:56.280
been a lot since I played D and D, but
884
00:44:56.320 --> 00:45:00.960
I thought Gnome was a species, not a class.
885
00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:04.639
He got me. I would have went with Bard, and
886
00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:07.559
that's about the only thing I could have probably picked.
887
00:45:08.199 --> 00:45:09.920
I don't even know if that because that's about the
888
00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:15.039
most upbeat thing that's out there. I would assume, well, yeah, I.
889
00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:16.760
Was chuming, well, like I could see him as a thief.
890
00:45:17.440 --> 00:45:22.519
Okay, all right, fair, fair anything else? I mean, so
891
00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:24.519
you had your little dent picks. There were a couple
892
00:45:24.519 --> 00:45:28.360
of things, but overall, were you impressed very much?
893
00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:31.519
So this was a lot of fun. I love how
894
00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:34.800
dedicated they are to the classic Mirage comic style and
895
00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:37.719
how well it blends with the eighties feel of the kids.
896
00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:40.840
The story works well. It was smarter to focus on
897
00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:44.119
Baxter Stockman and the mind flare. This didn't feel like
898
00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:47.760
shoving in extra characters for fan service. It really did
899
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:49.840
feel natural. There were a few things I think that
900
00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:52.000
could have done to strengthen the story and make it
901
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:54.039
a little bit more sense, like including Joyce Er a
902
00:45:54.079 --> 00:45:58.119
couple of the teenagers to act as chaperones. But other
903
00:45:58.159 --> 00:46:01.519
than that, this was a really good novel and I
904
00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:02.360
loved reading it.
905
00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:04.119
Yeah, I'm glad I got the chance to talk about
906
00:46:04.119 --> 00:46:07.719
it too. This right here fits in for our December
907
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:11.239
Stranger Things tie in for December, and I think it
908
00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:14.119
was a perfect discussion of a fun books. I'm glad
909
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:16.679
we got to do this. I don't have anything else here.
910
00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:18.400
If you're ready to get into plugs.
911
00:46:19.039 --> 00:46:21.880
All right, well, remember, folks, we will be talking season
912
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:26.119
five Stranger Things in January. We got a lot to
913
00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:29.000
talk about. We've only seen the first four episodes, but
914
00:46:29.280 --> 00:46:35.159
that alone has already gotten given us so so much
915
00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:38.119
love to talk about. Right, we will be discussing season
916
00:46:38.199 --> 00:46:40.599
five in January. It's not on the calendar yet. I
917
00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:43.639
need to sit down. I have got that Percy Jackson
918
00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:47.440
season two and it's Welcome to Darien. I got to
919
00:46:47.480 --> 00:46:49.880
get all three of those on the calendar. The final
920
00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:52.039
month of twenty twenty five, the final nail in the
921
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:56.119
coffin that has been this night of a year is
922
00:46:56.199 --> 00:46:58.760
finally being hammered in and we can move on with
923
00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:01.719
our lives. Sorry, this has not been a good year
924
00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:03.039
for me. It has not been a good year for
925
00:47:03.079 --> 00:47:03.800
a lot of my friends.
926
00:47:03.880 --> 00:47:06.199
I understand some bad stuff happened there at the beginning.
927
00:47:06.239 --> 00:47:09.920
If I remember correctly, something happened like somebody got swore in. Anyway,
928
00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:11.280
all I.
929
00:47:11.239 --> 00:47:13.599
Know is that he was supposed to talk to everyone said,
930
00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:15.760
you know what, go watch a Rob Ryan or film instead.
931
00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:17.960
Please do uh.
932
00:47:18.239 --> 00:47:20.920
For the record, we Mark Radlage, Robert Winfrey and I
933
00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:24.159
reviewed the twenty twenty five Frankenstein just two nights ago.
934
00:47:24.360 --> 00:47:28.079
We also took a moment to discuss the passing of
935
00:47:28.159 --> 00:47:31.079
Rob Reiner and just what his films and his work
936
00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:36.119
has meant to us as film enthusiasts, and just how
937
00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:38.599
sad we offer his for the tragic loss of him
938
00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:41.880
and his wife, and our hearts go out to the
939
00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:45.519
rest of the family. We can't imagine what you are
940
00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:49.360
going through right now. We are so sorry for your loss.
941
00:47:49.400 --> 00:47:51.519
Horrible, horrible, So we got that.
942
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:53.920
This is actually my last show for a bit until
943
00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:55.599
the very end of the year. I believe it's on
944
00:47:55.679 --> 00:47:59.559
January first. I will be joining again Mark Radlige and
945
00:47:59.599 --> 00:48:01.840
Robert way Free. We are gonna do our best and
946
00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:05.320
worst of twenty twenty five. I always laugh because they
947
00:48:05.360 --> 00:48:07.280
have to do the worst of twenty twenty five. I
948
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:11.199
don't have to subject myself to that horror. I have
949
00:48:11.239 --> 00:48:13.480
to talk about how they got through snow White and
950
00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:16.360
that Amazon Prime War the World's Movie. I'm like, have
951
00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:19.559
fun with that. I will be talking about the best
952
00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:22.840
TV shows of twenty twenty five, so looking forward to that,
953
00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:24.880
And again we're gonna talk about our best, our favorite
954
00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:27.519
movies of the year. I'm actually gonna be trying to
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binge this weekend and get a few more in. I
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really want to go see Hamnet. I've been hearing nothing
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but amazing things about that. I want to go see.
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Is this thing on? That's Bradley Cooper's latest film. Love
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him as a director. So if you're interested in hearing
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us talk about the best and the worst of twenty
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twenty five, what's gonna air on January first. In addition
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to reviewing the twenty twenty five Frankenstign these last few weeks,
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we also took a look at Five Nights of Friday's
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two I want to Misfire that was and Zootopia two,
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which was not a missfire. That was a very good movie.
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So be sure to stay tuned. We will be announcing
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before too long whin The Stranger Thing season five review
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is going to come on, and really looking forward to it.
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That's where Honeysuckle Rose Creations were Fashion meets fandom, at
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the intersection of geek and cheek. We are still buried
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with holiday orders. I am working my butt off to
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get everything out as far before Christmas as possible. We
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ship through the United States Postal Service and they are
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overworked and just buried with everything this time of year.
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Please bear with us. We are getting everything out as
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fast as we can, and we know they're shipping everything
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as fast as they can. Get your orders in as
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soon as possible as We sell on Etsy and handmade
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at Amazon, and you can always find us on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok,
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and Blue Sky. That's Honeysuckle Rose Creations, the intersection of
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geek and cheek.
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What seems to be the hot item this season.
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That would be a combination of our Clue jewelry. The
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Clue Charm bracelets with pearls have been our number one
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cellar the last three or four years, and the big
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one this year is our Vox earrings. Our husband Hotel
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jewelry is very popular, but it's the Vox series that
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have been selling NonStop. So Honeysuckle Rose Creations trust.
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Us your stories, nice nod. All right, Well, ask for
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my schedule. This coming Sunday, me and Mark are getting together.
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We're doing a triple feature. I've watched two of the
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three so far. We're gonna do oh what Fun, which
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I have decidedly retitled First World Problems. A Christmas story
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is horrible. Yeah, that sounds I hated it. And jingle
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Bell not.
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Even, not even Dennis Leary could save them.
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I'm sorry, I'm sorry he tried. Look, I you know
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Michelle Pfeiffer. I haven't seen her in anything for a
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very long time, so it was kind of nice to
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see her back on the screen. But regardless the story,
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maybe I'm just not the right demographic for this thing.
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I don't know, but either way, you can hear me
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gripe about that on Sunday, along with jingle Bell Heist,
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which I have watched, starring, oh my goodness, a girl
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from Cloak and Dagger. I cannot remember her name, Aunt
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Olivia Holt, and I don't know who the dude is anyway.
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Watch that one. It's okay, a neat little twist ending,
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in my opinion, and then we have a merry little Xmas.
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I have no idea other than Alicia Silverstone and Melissa
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Joan hart Or and that haven't watched it yet, so
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I have to get that in probably by Saturday, and
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then for the other source Material show that'll be showing
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up on Monday, we're getting in a Christmas week next week.
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What a crazy time. Me and Mark Radlitch talk Santa
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Claus Private Eye, an interesting book. I wasn't disappointed. It
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was a decent book. On Christmas Day, you can hear myself,
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Evan Bevans and Chris Armstrong get together for another Source
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Material episode Marvel two and one, number eight, where the
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Blue Everlove and Blue Eyed Thing and the Flame Headed
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Ghostwriter get together for a Christmas tale written by Steve Gerber. So,
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if you're a Steve Gerber fan, Howard the Duck she
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Hall he is on. This is nineteen seventy four, so
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not usually an era I go back to, but this
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is one of Evans's favorite books and it was fun
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to talk to him about it, and yeah, what a crazy,
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wacky story that was. As for the Unspoken Issues podcast,
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right now, I am in the middle of doing a
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small like sometimes less than ten minute episode each day
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on all eight stories that are in the Marvel Holiday
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special from nineteen ninety three. There's some fun stuff in there,
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some odd stuff, but we open it up with a
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completely wordless eight page story of Wolverine just obliterating everybody.
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By the end of the story, you realize it's just
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a kid with a Wolverine toy at a department store
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and he's playing with it. It's so cool. It's a
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great way to open it up. So if I go
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through my first episode, I talked about some of the
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hottest toys in nineteen ninety two at the end of
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nineteen ninety two, and yeah it was. It's a fun,
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fun time had by all. So there's a total of
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eight stories, So, like I said, not much of an investment.
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Each day. I think I'm dropping about ten to fifteen
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minutes at the most. So with that being said, I
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think that's all I have on my calendar. For Alexis Hana,
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who's right over there, We're coming back with stranger things
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here soon, don't worry folks. And then for myself, Jesse Starcher,
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we wish you all a very merry Christmas, Happy holidays.
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We'll talk to you soon. Have a good one. Bye bye,
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Turtle Power.
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Thanks for joining us.
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