How Your Attention Shapes the Reality You Experience

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Karen.
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Yes.
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I finally have an excuse for being late.
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Really?
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For every time?
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Yep.
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And for future?
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Well, see, time apparently is not a line.
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Oh. Right?
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We've kind of talked about it.
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Yeah.
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So you're multidimensionally late?
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What if I told you that time is a sphere?
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Ooh, I like round things.
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So it's not that I'm late. I'm just on the
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other side. That's tonight's guest, and he is an ether physicist,
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which I can confirm is not a major they offered
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at my college. He's got an ET contact story, a
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walk-in story, and something that's called Ether River Generator.
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Wow.
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So we are finding out tonight if ether physics is
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the piece science forgot, or the most beautifully built rabbit
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hole we've ever been invited into. Welcome to Skeptic Metaphysicians.
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My name is Will.
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And I'm Garen.
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And unlike Mulder and Scully.
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We both want to believe.
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So we've embarked on a journey of discovery.
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We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and
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metaphysical world.
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We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even
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joined a coven of witches.
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And, wait, you joined a coven?
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Yep, all in the interest of finding something... Anything. That
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will prove that there's something beyond this physical.
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Three-dimensional world we all live in.
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This is The Skeptic Metaphysicians. Hey there, I'm Will.
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And I'm Karen.
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Welcome back to the Skeptic Minute. This is a show
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where time isn't a line, it's a sphere. And somehow,
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we're still running late.
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Like a hamster.
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Welcome to the show. Most of us were taught that
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time is a conveyor belt. The past is behind you,
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the future is ahead, and you're just riding along. Well,
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our guest today thinks that picture isn't just incomplete, it's
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actually keeping people stuck. He spent years building a framework
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where attention, not clock, is what steers your life. And
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he's taken it everywhere from coast to coast AM to
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Gaia and now on the skeptic musician. So he finally
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hit the big time. He also calls it physics. And,
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you know, we're going to have something to say about that.
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Chris Rael, welcome to the show. How are you doing today?
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Hey, thank you, Will. Thank you, Karen. I'm doing absolutely fantabulous.
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I love to talk about ether physics and time. And
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you guys are spot on. You can't ever really be
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late whenever there's nowhere to really go. Right, right.
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So I need that. Well, we recorded that, so now
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I can play it for my boss all the time.
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Can't be late, boss.
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Yes.
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Oh, he'll tell you where to go, though.
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Right, right. All right.
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So then let's just cut right into the meat of it.
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I know we've got a lot to talk about, but
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this time being a sphere thing.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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We've heard that time is happening all at one time.
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So not linear, but it's actually happening all at the
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same time. So almost like a film strip. But you
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liken it more to a sphere.
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Right.
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Can you help us kind of wrap our heads around that?
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Yeah, wrap your head around that, right? So it's everything. So, yes, traditionally,
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they do not teach this stuff in college and mainstream science,
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especially not even in a lot of new age or,
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you know, contemplative circles. Again, sphere. So time being a
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straight line helps us make sense of our everyday life, right?
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But it doesn't actually explain the experience that we all
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have that is kind of hard to explain, right? So
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deja vu is another one, right? So dreams, and then
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you have a dream and then something happens, right? So
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time being a sphere is really about looking at reality
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from a frequency standpoint instead of a hardcore... you know,
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this is a wall, you know, solid matter. Everything we
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know about time is only relative to the observer, right?
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So the experience of the self gives you this seemingly
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linear experience of time. But all you're really ever doing
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is shifting how your brainwaves and how your emotions interact,
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which gives you a whole, what I call an etheric
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pulse rhythm, a whole set of circumstances that now validates
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what you're thinking, what you're feeling. So you're only ever
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moving from one idea to another. You're not really ever
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moving in a straight line, right? The straight line is
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relative to the point of consciousness who's having the experience.
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So that's the short version, Will. I teach classes on
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this and we go real deep, but that's the brief intro.
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So how do we explain that to my body? Because
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it feels like it's moving in a line and I'm
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not liking where it's headed.
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Exactly. So I have this model called the time sphere.
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And in the time sphere, you would essentially be, your
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body would be at the center of that sphere, right? Now,
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all around you is this, let's say, little lights, little
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kind of blinking and flashes, right? Those don't represent other timelines.
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They represent other experiences or other choice points, right? So
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if you choose in this moment to have this call
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with me and then the next moment you choose to
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do something else, it's not that you're going in a
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straight line. You're just pointing to or shifting your state
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of mind to now interact with one of those choice
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points that are around you. So this is a concept
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that can help us understand how the future, the past,
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and the present aren't really different. They're sets of ideas,
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sets of experiences that we can tap into. But for you, oh,
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go ahead.
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I was going to say, so then can you go
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back to experiences you've already had?
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For sure. Yeah. And we do it all the time. We,
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you know, we have a conversation with someone and then
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a couple of days later, we kind of revisit that
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old topic or we have a good example of we're
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thinking of a friend and then the friend messages us.
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We're like, oh, we, I was just thinking of you. Right.
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So you're experiencing your ideas in you're not experiencing a
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linear progression of events. For example, let's think of the
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year 1942, for whatever reason that came to mind. 1942
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is a set of beliefs, ideas, and circumstances. Now, can
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you go back to the year 1942? No, but you
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can recreate the experiences of 1942. In fact, there was a,
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a science experiment done in the late 90s, there was
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this elderly group of people, long story short, they weren't
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doing well. They got placed into an environment that looked
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like it was like the 1940s, 1950s. The cars, the food,
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the music, the housing, everything was like it was the
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1940s and 50s.
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Okay, that'd be kind of cool.
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Yeah. After a week or so, their elements started to
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kind of dwindle. And then after about a month or so,
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their sicknesses were all but gone. So there was no medication,
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no any external thing that they had to ingest or
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anything like that. It was all just environmental. So their
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brain had then adapted to their surroundings that fit 1940s
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and 50s and their bodies responded. So they anti-aged, like
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quite literally. Wow.
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So you're saying we got to go back to a
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time when we had no cell phones.
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I'm saying the 90s were the best time ever.
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I was thinking like the 80s with the shoulder pads
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and hair.
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Flammable.
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Very flammable.
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We're a little older than you, Chris.
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I guess so. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, you're right. It's
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not about the numbers. It's about the state of mind
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and the experience that you're having. That's what generates time.
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Time is relative to the experiencer. You know, clocks don't
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keep time. Clocks synchronize events. That's it.
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But then how do you explain physical aging? Because you
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did say people were kind of anti-aging, but probably not,
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you know, all the way.
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Right.
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In this 40s situation.
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Well, aging, if, okay, so, that's a deep question. Okay.
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If you have a toddler, a two-year-old, and you don't
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ever tell them that they're two years old, you know,
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you never celebrate their birthday, how old would they be?
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they have no concept of age. So their body is
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only going to be a byproduct of the environment in
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which they're in. Now there's maturation, but aging itself is
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more of a concept that we've accepted as a people, right?
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And we associate numbers with physical well-being, but there's documentation
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of people living well beyond 100 just not too long ago.
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So aging is, you know, Go ahead. Well, yeah.
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So you're saying that the only reason why my back
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hurts every time I get up from the couch is
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because I think I'm in my 50s?
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Yes, there's some truth to that, yeah. I mean, look,
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your back could hurt, yeah, because of the bed. It
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could hurt because of, I don't know, right? You're sleeping
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funky at night. But what does it mean to be
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in your 50s? When you say that, there's a general
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association with that, right? Is there not? 50 is supposed
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to mean this, that, and dah, dah, dah, dah, dah.
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20 means dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. So we're dealing
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with ideas again and concept. Yeah.
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Okay. So it's interesting you say that because remember when
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we were young and we would think, oh my God,
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50s is like ancient. Like, I don't know if I'll
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ever make it to 50. I won't ever survive that.
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And so we have that mindset and now suddenly here
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we are in our 50s, suddenly we're like we're in
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a wreck because we were thinking how bad we are.
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You are tremendously offending me right now. I'm talking about myself.
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Now I look like a wreck.
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You guys are hilarious. I love that. All right.
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Well, I'm not. 100% sure I've got my head wrapped
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around that. But I do want to, I want to,
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thinking if I talk, we talk about some other topics,
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it'll come back around.
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It always does, yeah.
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So something that called my attention when I was looking
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into you was this whole ether physics thing. Super curious,
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what makes something ether physics? I can't even say the word.
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Well, we are... In a point in time where we
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have to have some sort of comprehension of the nature
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of which we find ourselves in, right?
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Sure.
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So if that's the foundation, we look to mainstream science.
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Mainstream science gives us a very Newtonian kind of explanation
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for things. You got quarks, particles, atoms, but it's all
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geared around physical substrates, right?
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Sure.
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So what makes something ether is your question. So ether,
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through my ontology and this definition, is the substratum that
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is the medium that connects everything. It's what everything rises
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from and goes back to, right? And so people, we
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are taught and we're trained to think, again, in a
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straight line of first there was this, second there was that,
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third there was this, and, you know, the creator kind
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of made it all, right? But then the question is, well,
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who created the creator and who created, you kind of
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go on that rabbit hole, right? So the only thing
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that truly in my frame adds up and makes sense
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is eternal, right? So there's something that I like to
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call the ether, but it's really pure presence. It's undefined potential. Now,
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through how the human biology is constructed in the soul
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and the consciousness, we actually are always connected to this ether,
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to this source. We are actually it. So, yeah, does
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that paint a decent picture first? Sure.
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No, I get what ether is, but I've never heard
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of ether physics, right? So you've heard of quantum physics.
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Right.
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Is this similar to what quantum physics is talking about?
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It's similar, but in my opinion, quantum physics actually is
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still kind of scooting around the deeper truth. Okay. It's
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still kind of keeping.
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The power out of the people right it's still saying
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well we have the answer and like this is whatever
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but so ether physics is really the study of time
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gravity it's the it's the study of how all these
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phenomenological see there it is right all these phenomenological things
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take place right so it actually gives people a real
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world tangible function to understand reality versus pointing at it
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and talking about it okay the physics kind of gives
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you oh okay i see how whenever this happens like
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that yeah so it's different.
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So you're saying that you have all the answers i
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like that ah here we go.
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All right no i will never say i will say
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that i have only rediscovered what many people have before
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you know tesla you know there's Victor Schauberger, there's other people,
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John Keeley, William Reich, they all called it different things.
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But every culture has had their people who have discovered
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or rediscovered the essence, the principle, the substratum. The hermetics
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call it, you know, the great mother and, you know,
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or prima matra, right? So it's all the same thing,
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but said from a lens of whoever came to realize it.
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So you have this information and this understanding. What do
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you do with it?
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I apply it. I share it.
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Like how do you apply it?
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Yeah. How do I apply it? So for example, I'm
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working on a couple technologies that have to do with time,
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have to do with, I don't know how, I guess
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we call it free energy, right? So when we look
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at technology today, Technology is essentially meant to augment the
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human experience. But our technology kind of dwindles us. It
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ages us.
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For sure.
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Yes, absolutely.
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Because it's not connected to the ether. It's not connected
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to the field. So it can't produce clean energy. So
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we can build devices that are generated just like the
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pyramids were through the understanding of things like ether physics, right?
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What time is, what gravity is. right how these things
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actually play into something like technology you study the ether
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through meditation through observation you then see the patterns you
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observe the patterns then you replicate and you apply them
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then you find the material copper different metals gold wood
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that are naturally conductive and you start to build things
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that support human well-being so that's one way i apply
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them um I mean, I apply ether physics. Also just
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like understanding civilization, right? Like how people function in terms
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of relationship, right? I know this is a little bit
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off topic, but the masculine and feminine, positive and negative, okay?
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Nothing in nature exists without those two polarities, literally nothing, right?
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So when you understand that you need both charges, you
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can understand that in relationships, the reason that there's a
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man and that there's a woman is because whenever they
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connect and unite, there's a charge, there's life, there's a spark, right?
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So when you understand yourself, oh, go ahead, Will.
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I'm sorry to interrupt you, but you're talking specifically this
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3D world, right? Because when we pass on, there is
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no light or dark. There is no man or female, right?
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It's again, it's relative because I think And I love
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that you're taking it here. And thank you for pausing
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me because I can just, I'll keep going. This is
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another thing I think is really important. This is what
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I've learned through ether physics is that there is no
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here and there is no there, right? Whenever you dream
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at night, you are existing in that other place that
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we assume whenever we die, right? So you're already in
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the ether. You're already doing the thing.
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So when you die, you go to this place that
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you are when you're dreaming?
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You go wherever your thoughts are focused. Right, right.
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You just mentioned there's no there or there.
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It's here.
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It's here. Oh, man, this is hard.
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Okay, so then now I'm like, oh, so if you
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go there, you really got to think about what you're
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thinking about when you're about to dive.
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But there is no there.
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Well, okay, yes.
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But you guys are both on it. You're both spot on.
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Keep going.
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So then can you move around?
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I mean, go to.
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Other not there's?
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Yes, yes. And now we're getting into travel, right? You
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guys do UFOs and ETs and all the things, right?
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Oh, yeah.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. How in the world can a
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starship go from here to here in the blink of
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an eye? Wormholes. Okay, yes.
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I know Star Trek.
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Okay, yes. But wormholes are what? They are not bending
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space and time. They have a different relationship to space
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and time.
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Sure.
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They understand it from a different perspective, right? So you,
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I mean, things like teleportation, in my opinion, it's very real.
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It's a matter of practice versus something that we can't do.
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We have to shave away basically all the conditioning. We
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are a physical body. This is a solid wall. We
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have to understand that what makes something solid is that
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it's really magnetism, right? So the polarity of the wall
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and atoms in the wall, in my hand, they repel
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and it creates that dense feeling, just like two magnets, right?
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Long story short, when we talk about travel, we're talking
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about moving through frequency. So we're not talking about linear space.
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Linear space is just a address. It's a set of numbers.
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It's a frequency. It's not, I'm here and you guys
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are there. If we have the right technology, I could
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be there in a blink of an eye. If I
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knew the frequency of where your room was, like, so.
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So technology or because some people talk about like Yogananda, right?
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The autobiography of a yogi, bilocation and things like that.
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They didn't use technology. They were just spiritual enough to
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actually do it.
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Exactly.
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But you're saying that we can actually develop technology to
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allow us to do these things so we don't have
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to be meditating for a thousand years.
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Precisely. Technology, again, is meant to augment, support the human
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experience and what we can do naturally. So yeah, the
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pyramids were actually originally, they were free energy devices and
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they were etheric generators. You could be anywhere in the
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world and you would have reception. Cell phones are not
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a new thing.
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So how do you know that?
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Oh man, Will, you said we have an hour. I
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actually remember, I remember a lot from my previous incarnations,
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you could say my interdimensional, astral self, however you want
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to say ET self. But then it's also been verified
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through study. I don't read books. I read old, old
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PDFs that I find that no one else knows about.
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And there's some really cool stuff that you can find
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that's like, okay, so this is why this isn't in
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the library because we'd all be teleporting and zipping around.
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There's no money in that.
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I mean, I can come up with a way to
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make money off of that. I'm sure.
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Yeah, sell them the magic feather, the Dumbo feather.
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I mean, no, I would never do that.
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I know. Yeah. But yeah, well, we can definitely do
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these things. And it's, you know, I think that humans
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or souls are just so profound. We just have never.
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That's why I like what ether physics is. It gives
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us a deeper understanding of The nature of reality. That's
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really what it is. From an empowered place.
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So have you ever teleported?
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What do you think?
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We're really hoping you're going to say yes.
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I definitely had some interesting experiences. Ironically enough, the three experiences,
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two of them were from where I was driving. And yeah,
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it was just like, how did I get here? Like,
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I don't remember anything. anything at all i just was
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a boom boom and you know but yeah so i
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i'm gonna say yes because why not you know i'll
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leave it up to you guys to believe it or
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not all right i like that.
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Well so then you have this thing called center hypothesis
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we've talked on the show before about the fact that
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awareness doesn't come from the brain it's not developed it's
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not generated in the brain it's maybe maybe we receive
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awareness or consciousness right so How does center hypothesis fit
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into all this?
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It's a beautiful little puzzle piece. So if you think of, again,
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let's use the ocean. That's a great way to understand
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the ether. The ocean. Oceans have waves, yeah? Or they
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have whirlpools or typhoons or all that kind of spirally stuff.
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If you take just a vortex or whirlpool in the ocean,
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it's not that the whirlpool is separate. It's still the ocean.
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It's the ocean now. becoming recursive and repetitive within itself, yeah?
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And that whirlpool is then going to pull different things
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into it and it's going to have a whole different
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experience than the general ocean, right? So that's kind of
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like the center hypothesis. The center hypothesis recognizes that the
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pure potential primary ether is self-aware to a degree. And
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once it becomes self-aware, it creates a repetitive standing wave
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within itself that then would create memory. Spirals are just
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ways or vortexes are just ways in which nature remembers itself.
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And through that memory, you have what's called an eye
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or an ego or something that is now not just
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the original essence. You're now a thing, something. So that's
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the starting point of the center hypothesis is that you
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become a localized center. in the greater framework of the medium,
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the ether.
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So what causes that to start, that whirlpool?
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So that's like, what is chicken or the egg? My
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answer is they both have to be simultaneous. Because again,
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you can't have one without the other. So you cannot
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have a perception or an experience of reality without... their
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first being the essence and the substratum in which you
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are having that experience, right? So what causes it is
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that nature, the ether is not inert. It's not just nothing.
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It is undefined potential. So the very nature of that
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means that it has to include everything, which has to
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then include the ability to become a perceived different version
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of just the whole, of just the, you know, spaceless,
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timeless essence. So what starts it is that it's, that's
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just what it does. That's just what the ether does.
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It reminds me of a Forrest Gump. Is that Forrest Gump?
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I don't know.
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Stupid is as stupid does.
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Ether is as ether does. Yes.
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And look at this, ready? So ether, right? E-T-H-E-R. And
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then if you change those letters around, you get there.
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So wherever there is always going to be the ether.
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But Karen, short and sweet, again, what starts it? Like
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we just go from a localized self in this human form.
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You start that process every single time you breathe. Every
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single breath you take is you're breathing in pure potential.
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Your body interprets that energy and changes it into oxygen.
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That oxygen then gets converted into energy. you know, fuel
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for the rest of your body. Right. And then you
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exhale that energy back out into what we call air.
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And then the process kind of continues. Yeah.
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This is dense stuff. You have to really think through this.
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Yeah.
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So it's, it sounds like you spend a lot of
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time studying ether and the nature of reality, right? Fair
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to say. So then let's go there. Why are we here?
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What is this all about?
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So why are we here? Every time I come to
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that question, it's not about the why as much as
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it is about what experiences are we having? Right. So
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when you look up the etymology of existence, it summarizes
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to like standing, like to, to stand, right. To, to
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stand within or stand like outside of. So existence is
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like to stand outside of the self. You exist outside
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of yourself. Right. So why, why would this all pervasive
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omnipresent field want to do that? And I think it's
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a very simple thing. It's like we're here for, for experience.
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We're not here to, I mean, on one level, you
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could say we're here to learn how to be better people,
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better souls, but it really, it's like, if you were
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a field of pure potential presence, the only way that
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you could actually have any sort of anything would be
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through experience or else there would be, there'd be nothing
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would exist without experience. Nothing would exist without some sort
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of duality of I'm just pure potential consciousness versus I
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am a human being talking to another human being who
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can know itself as will Karen, Chris, so on and
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so forth. That's, you know, the, yeah.
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So we've talked to a lot of people and one
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common kind of theme that we get is that we
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are made out of, I guess, the energy, the energy
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of love. So is that, I guess that, that would be,
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different than potential?
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Love would be an idea within that potential, right? Because potential,
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and the thing is, it's really difficult to try to
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describe something that just is. There's no one word because
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every word I use is just now another idea within that, right?
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Does that make sense?
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00:27:54.759 --> 00:27:54.980
Yeah.
490
00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:59.700
So if I say it's love, ether, primordial, whatever, God, consciousness,
491
00:28:00.740 --> 00:28:03.940
it's still not that thing. that word i'm saying is
492
00:28:03.980 --> 00:28:10.019
just a symbol right so this is why meditation is
493
00:28:10.059 --> 00:28:13.039
so important a good question to ask and this is
494
00:28:13.079 --> 00:28:16.440
for people who want to actually really inquire and experience
495
00:28:16.460 --> 00:28:19.450
this versus just like make into some intellectual thing yeah
496
00:28:19.509 --> 00:28:24.289
please yeah and ask the question what is it that
497
00:28:24.349 --> 00:28:28.930
is observing through these eyes right what's what is what's
498
00:28:28.970 --> 00:28:38.809
observing through these eyes If you say, well, it's Chris. Well,
499
00:28:38.829 --> 00:28:42.049
who is Chris? Well, Chris is a brown man from
500
00:28:42.109 --> 00:28:46.099
Connecticut who's a father. Okay, well, who is aware of
501
00:28:46.200 --> 00:28:48.400
Chris being Chris?
502
00:28:49.980 --> 00:28:50.180
Right?
503
00:28:50.299 --> 00:28:54.660
And you keep going, at least to some pretty cool places. Yeah.
504
00:28:56.049 --> 00:29:01.940
So then the pure potentiality creates... us reality we it
505
00:29:01.960 --> 00:29:05.000
splits off and becomes everything that we know right does
506
00:29:05.019 --> 00:29:09.759
that include like you talked about spaceships earlier like ets
507
00:29:09.819 --> 00:29:12.539
different civilizations is it go that far or is it
508
00:29:12.579 --> 00:29:15.460
just specifically focused on humanity.
509
00:29:15.339 --> 00:29:20.180
No it's it's everything it's literally everything so yes ets
510
00:29:20.480 --> 00:29:25.420
uh rocks cars whatever right and it's again there's this
511
00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:30.259
idea of a of a creator but that's because we're
512
00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:35.190
human and we anthropomorphize the ether or source or, or divinity.
513
00:29:36.109 --> 00:29:39.849
If I was a, if I was a flower and,
514
00:29:40.609 --> 00:29:45.279
would i say that the source is human or humanoid
515
00:29:45.339 --> 00:29:50.299
probably not right so from the perspective of a flower
516
00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:53.680
what is that what is it that connects the flowers
517
00:29:53.839 --> 00:30:01.390
experience in mind right so who created the flower It
518
00:30:01.430 --> 00:30:05.430
can't be a being. It has to be a principle, right?
519
00:30:06.089 --> 00:30:09.970
And so when we talk about ETs, starships, yes, it
520
00:30:09.990 --> 00:30:12.230
includes all of that stuff because it's all coming from
521
00:30:12.289 --> 00:30:15.529
the same field, the same medium.
522
00:30:17.289 --> 00:30:21.259
Now, you've had an experience with decontact, yeah?
523
00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:23.500
Yeah, I have had quite a few.
524
00:30:24.420 --> 00:30:28.240
Quite a few? So first, you're talking to someone.
525
00:30:28.259 --> 00:30:29.000
Mm-hmm.
526
00:30:29.789 --> 00:30:35.109
Who sat on a cruise ship at night, like forcing
527
00:30:35.150 --> 00:30:38.109
them to come and say hello and nothing. I mean,
528
00:30:38.950 --> 00:30:40.069
Karen thinks that they came.
529
00:30:40.190 --> 00:30:40.869
No, I know.
530
00:30:41.170 --> 00:30:41.490
Okay.
531
00:30:41.569 --> 00:30:43.619
I saw it, Sienna saw it, you saw it, but
532
00:30:43.640 --> 00:30:44.680
you're like, man, maybe not.
533
00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:46.519
I think it was just my eyes doing weird stuff.
534
00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:47.920
We all had weird eyes.
535
00:30:50.140 --> 00:30:52.539
Oh my God. So what, so what do you, what's your,
536
00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:55.880
what's your insight on that? That there was nothing there
537
00:30:55.900 --> 00:30:57.359
that you're inquiring about what.
538
00:30:58.569 --> 00:31:03.869
No, I'm unbelievably curious when we talk to people who
539
00:31:03.930 --> 00:31:07.150
have had contact or some sort of experiences and things
540
00:31:07.170 --> 00:31:10.250
like that, what those experiences are. Because now the government
541
00:31:10.309 --> 00:31:15.339
is releasing all these tranches of UFO footage, which says
542
00:31:15.380 --> 00:31:19.420
really a whole lot of nothing because there's no data
543
00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:20.859
that goes with it. So you can't tell how big
544
00:31:20.900 --> 00:31:22.519
it is, how fast it was going, anything like that.
545
00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:25.990
So it's kind of useless now. So the only way
546
00:31:26.029 --> 00:31:28.029
that we can get any kind of information is people
547
00:31:28.049 --> 00:31:30.950
like you who actually have had first-hand experiences with these things.
548
00:31:31.009 --> 00:31:33.849
So not to derail the topic, but I'm really super
549
00:31:33.890 --> 00:31:36.049
curious if you wouldn't mind sharing. It's good.
550
00:31:36.630 --> 00:31:39.779
Yeah, I mean, honestly, it goes hand in hand. So
551
00:31:40.059 --> 00:31:42.400
I stargaze all the time. It's one of my most
552
00:31:42.440 --> 00:31:45.160
favorite things to do. And I've been doing it since
553
00:31:45.220 --> 00:31:47.839
I was a kid. And there's something about when you're
554
00:31:47.859 --> 00:31:51.319
looking up at the night sky, something happens to your brain. Like, actually,
555
00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:54.329
you can, you know, neuroscience is all into this, like,
556
00:31:55.099 --> 00:31:57.599
how the light from the stars impacts your actual, how
557
00:31:57.619 --> 00:31:59.940
you think and stuff like that. With that said, I
558
00:32:03.380 --> 00:32:06.930
have seen not only starships, but also like I've had
559
00:32:07.210 --> 00:32:11.230
direct experience, yes, through dream, but also physically. And I
560
00:32:11.269 --> 00:32:13.190
won't get into too much details about that because we
561
00:32:13.210 --> 00:32:17.329
don't have too much time. But when we talk about extraterrestrials,
562
00:32:17.930 --> 00:32:20.269
we have to understand something. This is really, really important.
563
00:32:20.970 --> 00:32:25.710
Humans are ETs, like short and sweet. If Will and Karen,
564
00:32:25.730 --> 00:32:27.809
if you hop onto a spaceship and you go to Jupiter,
565
00:32:28.250 --> 00:32:32.720
guess what? You're going to be considered an extraterrestrial, right?
566
00:32:32.940 --> 00:32:35.319
So then again, here we are with this idea of
567
00:32:35.380 --> 00:32:39.619
relativity and here and there. It's all about your point
568
00:32:39.700 --> 00:32:45.339
of perception and perspective. So the things that the government
569
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:47.359
are showing, I think 80, 90% of it is just
570
00:32:47.380 --> 00:32:49.339
the government, you know, going around each other and just
571
00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:55.589
making a scene. The 10%, 9%, The starships are nuts
572
00:32:55.650 --> 00:32:58.819
and bolts. You know, they have different kinds of plasma
573
00:32:58.910 --> 00:33:03.680
engines made from, you know, Merkaba crystal technology. And this
574
00:33:03.740 --> 00:33:07.519
is what I mean. Technology can become really, really impactful
575
00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:12.180
if we understand metaphysics, ether physics a little differently than
576
00:33:12.220 --> 00:33:16.920
what we've been taught. So who is in these crafts?
577
00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:20.849
It's just people. People, literally just people like me and you.
578
00:33:21.539 --> 00:33:24.339
Like humanoid people? Like we look the same as.
579
00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:29.920
Yes. Yes. Like there are a tremendous amount of humans,
580
00:33:30.099 --> 00:33:34.309
just literal human beings sprinkled throughout the cosmos. Now this
581
00:33:34.430 --> 00:33:37.329
isn't just like a woo-woo thing or it's just Chris
582
00:33:37.369 --> 00:33:40.269
like hoping, wishing. All you have to do is look
583
00:33:40.309 --> 00:33:42.970
at any ancient culture, like not like.
584
00:33:45.650 --> 00:33:47.769
Be careful with that. So look at a lot of
585
00:33:47.829 --> 00:33:53.250
different cultures and you'll see... The stories, you know, they
586
00:33:53.309 --> 00:33:56.450
say they call them chariots of the gods. These are
587
00:33:56.490 --> 00:33:58.809
just starships, and they'll say that the gods came down
588
00:33:59.390 --> 00:34:02.799
from heaven. These are just people. They're just people.
589
00:34:03.099 --> 00:34:05.380
But they look different. Like in the drawings and the
590
00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:08.699
cuneiform and all that kind of stuff, they look not
591
00:34:08.780 --> 00:34:09.219
like us.
592
00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:11.800
They've got the— The headdresses and stuff?
593
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:15.440
Some look like animals, and some look like, you know,
594
00:34:15.659 --> 00:34:18.559
the big eyes, the typical gray alien kind of things, right?
595
00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:18.940
Yeah.
596
00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:24.010
And there is a theory that ETs are really, what
597
00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:27.449
we're experiencing now is really just humans from the future
598
00:34:27.489 --> 00:34:31.469
come back in time to see, to visit us here, right?
599
00:34:31.710 --> 00:34:38.940
Oh, no. So here we go with the time thing again, yeah? Right. Yeah.
600
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:43.039
And Dave Grush just talked about the fact that there's
601
00:34:43.099 --> 00:34:45.960
two different alien races at war over the United States
602
00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:48.719
right now, for example. And the fact that he's seen, like,
603
00:34:49.460 --> 00:34:53.340
reptilian beings and and i mean i guess i guess
604
00:34:53.380 --> 00:34:55.539
the nordics look like us tall.
605
00:34:55.320 --> 00:34:59.460
But yeah well i have a question for you um
606
00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:04.369
would you consider that if if there is such a
607
00:35:04.409 --> 00:35:08.989
diverse population on earth that this is the only place
608
00:35:09.070 --> 00:35:11.570
where there's you know diversity and people that look like
609
00:35:11.650 --> 00:35:14.389
us or do you think that there's other just beings
610
00:35:14.449 --> 00:35:15.809
in general out there right.
611
00:35:15.980 --> 00:35:17.550
No, I think this is probably the only place that
612
00:35:17.570 --> 00:35:21.230
has diversity. Okay.
613
00:35:21.250 --> 00:35:21.610
Yes, Will.
614
00:35:21.630 --> 00:35:22.829
Yes, Will. No, no, no.
615
00:35:22.869 --> 00:35:23.349
I'm sure.
616
00:35:23.369 --> 00:35:26.349
In fact, I'm a big science fiction fan and I
617
00:35:26.389 --> 00:35:29.150
have thought about that a lot where, you know, Star
618
00:35:29.170 --> 00:35:32.449
Trek and all those places, they go to different planets. Right?
619
00:35:32.469 --> 00:35:35.369
The planets, they all look the same. All the aliens
620
00:35:35.409 --> 00:35:39.869
look exactly the same with some slight variations. And most
621
00:35:39.889 --> 00:35:41.489
of them in Star Trek are actually humanoid. And there's
622
00:35:41.530 --> 00:35:43.190
a reason for it. If you're a Star Trek fan,
623
00:35:43.210 --> 00:35:45.829
you know the whole reason for it. But, The biggest
624
00:35:45.869 --> 00:35:49.789
question about all that is lots of people have talked
625
00:35:49.829 --> 00:35:52.070
about the fact that ETs are here to help us
626
00:35:52.190 --> 00:35:54.369
in our evolution and things like that, right?
627
00:35:54.409 --> 00:35:54.610
Yeah.
628
00:35:54.630 --> 00:36:00.570
So how connected are they to these ether physics stuff?
629
00:36:01.380 --> 00:36:01.570
All right.
630
00:36:01.880 --> 00:36:05.380
So ether physics started for me after a lot of
631
00:36:05.420 --> 00:36:08.820
my contact. I started to know things. Like I've had
632
00:36:08.860 --> 00:36:11.820
different abduction experience. I just would know things. I'm like,
633
00:36:12.460 --> 00:36:14.139
oh my God, this is what gravity is. This is
634
00:36:14.179 --> 00:36:18.170
what time is. So, this is the fun one. If
635
00:36:18.190 --> 00:36:21.210
you're in a highly advanced race and you want a
636
00:36:21.250 --> 00:36:24.269
culture to develop and you have their best interest, you
637
00:36:24.289 --> 00:36:26.110
know that if you go down in your starship and
638
00:36:26.130 --> 00:36:27.909
you're like, hey, guys, I'm here to help you out,
639
00:36:28.489 --> 00:36:30.300
it's going to cause chaos because the people need to
640
00:36:30.340 --> 00:36:32.659
be ready for that kind of experience. So, you would
641
00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:37.619
send one of you, but in a human form, right,
642
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:40.079
to fit in, to just kind of get along, to
643
00:36:40.139 --> 00:36:43.139
learn the culture, and then to bring things through that
644
00:36:43.179 --> 00:36:48.579
could literally help push the species forward right some people
645
00:36:48.599 --> 00:36:52.159
have called this indigo children star seeds light workers things
646
00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:53.699
like that but not so much of the new age
647
00:36:53.739 --> 00:36:57.079
stuff i know and i can say this pretty boldly
648
00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:00.320
but also confidently that part of a lot of what
649
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:03.599
i share comes from directly from my star team like
650
00:37:03.820 --> 00:37:07.929
directly and through deep meditation i like i said dream
651
00:37:08.429 --> 00:37:12.250
i've met people um that have shared things with me
652
00:37:12.750 --> 00:37:15.389
And I've also just been guided into different, like I said,
653
00:37:15.449 --> 00:37:20.150
PDFs and works that have talked about this kind of stuff.
654
00:37:20.789 --> 00:37:25.269
So there is a direct link to the progressive advancement
655
00:37:25.309 --> 00:37:29.250
of humanity and ETs. I think that ETs and the
656
00:37:29.289 --> 00:37:35.230
cosmos themselves is the biggest thing that's being like quelled
657
00:37:35.610 --> 00:37:38.309
because it's also the thing that could actually propel us
658
00:37:38.690 --> 00:37:44.800
into a completely different state of being. Advanced technology, holistic societies,
659
00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:51.219
you know, more of a well-rounded governing structure. This is
660
00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:55.340
all part of the bigger picture. My Instagram handle used
661
00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:59.639
to be called Peaceful Human Advancement. Because that's why I'm here,
662
00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:03.760
is to help people, humans, peacefully advance.
663
00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:04.860
I guess that.
664
00:38:05.590 --> 00:38:10.889
You did. No, you used your telepathy because you're an MC.
665
00:38:11.989 --> 00:38:13.590
Well, if that's the plan, I'm ready for them to
666
00:38:13.630 --> 00:38:13.989
come now.
667
00:38:15.530 --> 00:38:18.230
Would you know if they were, though? I don't know.
668
00:38:18.349 --> 00:38:20.650
Maybe things started getting better all of a sudden.
669
00:38:22.349 --> 00:38:22.630
Yeah.
670
00:38:24.010 --> 00:38:27.840
Yeah, because when you look at technology, things are getting worse.
671
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:32.800
Social media, cell phones, they started out good stuff, but
672
00:38:32.860 --> 00:38:35.099
they've been warped. They've been twisted. Right.
673
00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:38.360
Government's getting worse. Things are just getting worse.
674
00:38:38.460 --> 00:38:41.579
Everything's getting worse. Except it's not. It's getting better.
675
00:38:41.980 --> 00:38:44.179
See, boom. You read my mind. I was going to say,
676
00:38:44.219 --> 00:38:48.309
but we're having this conversation. So this means something, right?
677
00:38:48.670 --> 00:38:50.690
This is not just like a blip in the pan.
678
00:38:50.730 --> 00:38:55.070
We're having a real conversation about how to be progressive
679
00:38:55.190 --> 00:38:58.179
in the human experience, right? That's what my work is
680
00:38:58.199 --> 00:38:59.360
all about. Yeah.
681
00:38:59.860 --> 00:39:02.889
Well, then perfect. Then let's, let's do that. Let's talk
682
00:39:02.949 --> 00:39:06.289
about ether physics. How can we use it practically in
683
00:39:06.349 --> 00:39:09.090
our human experience? How can we like take the time
684
00:39:09.110 --> 00:39:12.070
sphere thing? How can we use that in our daily lives?
685
00:39:12.090 --> 00:39:14.449
All right. So let's go to the time sphere. All right.
686
00:39:14.550 --> 00:39:17.750
So if I, if I have to go to the
687
00:39:17.769 --> 00:39:21.519
bathroom and I'm in the bathroom and then Will, you
688
00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:23.460
come knocking on the door, you're like, Hey, I got
689
00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:25.440
to go. I'm like, it's been 30 seconds. You're like, no,
690
00:39:25.460 --> 00:39:26.579
it's been like five minutes.
691
00:39:27.460 --> 00:39:27.619
Right.
692
00:39:28.090 --> 00:39:33.809
We're experiencing this. same moment, but time is different for us.
693
00:39:34.550 --> 00:39:34.730
Right?
694
00:39:35.250 --> 00:39:38.130
So why do I bring up this perception of time?
695
00:39:38.570 --> 00:39:40.889
Exactly. So why do I bring up that silly example?
696
00:39:41.309 --> 00:39:45.599
Because when humans become aware of how they're thinking, time
697
00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:46.699
starts to change.
698
00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:48.820
Ah, okay.
699
00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:52.000
Right? You don't change time by changing the numbers. You
700
00:39:52.019 --> 00:39:56.570
change time by changing your thoughts, which you focus on, okay?
701
00:39:56.989 --> 00:40:02.110
So we can apply the time sphere. Again, think of
702
00:40:02.130 --> 00:40:06.050
the sphere and you have, don't think of future, past, present.
703
00:40:06.090 --> 00:40:11.170
Think of new car, you know, whatever, house, whatever, new job,
704
00:40:11.190 --> 00:40:14.400
whatever it is, right? And you put your awareness on
705
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:16.219
that thing. You start to live in what I call
706
00:40:16.239 --> 00:40:20.550
the creator zone. You think and you, not even believe,
707
00:40:20.590 --> 00:40:23.449
but you allow your mind to go into the reality
708
00:40:23.489 --> 00:40:26.650
of you having that new car, you having that relationship,
709
00:40:27.010 --> 00:40:30.769
and you're literally living in it, in your mind. They
710
00:40:30.809 --> 00:40:34.070
say seeing is believing, and it's not. Seeing is knowing.
711
00:40:35.380 --> 00:40:39.260
So you can only experience what you know, but if
712
00:40:39.300 --> 00:40:41.719
you can't see it out in front of you, you're
713
00:40:41.760 --> 00:40:43.840
never going to know it. So you have to experience
714
00:40:43.900 --> 00:40:46.639
it here. That's why it's called knowing. And what you
715
00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:50.429
experience here Only then is it going to appear out
716
00:40:50.469 --> 00:40:51.010
in front of you.
717
00:40:52.150 --> 00:40:54.030
And for those who are only listening, when he says here,
718
00:40:54.070 --> 00:40:55.500
he's pointing at his mind.
719
00:40:55.699 --> 00:40:56.500
Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah.
720
00:40:56.679 --> 00:40:59.719
It's totally okay. It's totally okay. This is both. So
721
00:40:59.739 --> 00:41:03.019
let's make sure we include them both. So I get
722
00:41:03.059 --> 00:41:05.840
what you're saying and I love it. I really enjoy it.
723
00:41:06.179 --> 00:41:09.820
How is this different than the law of attraction or manifestations,
724
00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:10.480
that kind of stuff?
725
00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:13.320
They're cousins, Timmy and Jim. No, Timmy and Mike.
726
00:41:14.579 --> 00:41:15.619
I got a lot of cousins named Bob.
727
00:41:16.780 --> 00:41:19.159
Okay. So how is it different than law of attraction?
728
00:41:19.219 --> 00:41:22.559
Law of attraction has a subtle misconception in it. Attraction.
729
00:41:22.980 --> 00:41:25.820
You don't ever attract anything to you. You're not attracting
730
00:41:25.860 --> 00:41:28.869
things to you. There's nothing. This might be a difficult
731
00:41:28.989 --> 00:41:32.590
one for people to grasp. But again, we're taking steps
732
00:41:32.630 --> 00:41:34.670
here to think in a different way than what we've
733
00:41:34.809 --> 00:41:36.630
been taught, right? So it's going to feel a little bumpy.
734
00:41:37.329 --> 00:41:39.969
But everything we see out in front of us is
735
00:41:40.110 --> 00:41:44.260
already in the past. It's already materialized. It's already happened.
736
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It started in your mind and now you're experiencing it
737
00:41:46.940 --> 00:41:50.880
out here, right? So the law of attraction says you
738
00:41:50.900 --> 00:41:54.719
attract things to you and the law of mirrors say
739
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you experience what you are. So Neville Goddard is someone
740
00:41:58.969 --> 00:42:00.429
who I've studied a lot and he talks a lot
741
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about this, how you are not, it's not about attracting,
742
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it's about being. What are you being, right? And so
743
00:42:09.929 --> 00:42:13.409
ether physics would say this, If I'm thinking about, okay,
744
00:42:13.550 --> 00:42:16.369
I want to have a talk with a wonderful podcast,
745
00:42:16.530 --> 00:42:20.250
that thought creates that spiral. That spiral in the ether
746
00:42:20.289 --> 00:42:23.250
becomes more solid, solid, solid. It creates a standing wave.
747
00:42:23.929 --> 00:42:27.010
That standing wave is what we call physical matter. But
748
00:42:27.050 --> 00:42:31.869
physical matter, for my experience, is finding you guys online
749
00:42:32.570 --> 00:42:34.949
and being like, hey, let's set up a show, right?
750
00:42:35.610 --> 00:42:38.630
So that goes from the ether, pure potential, into thought,
751
00:42:39.949 --> 00:42:44.889
to physical action, and then direct experience. That's the sequence.
752
00:42:46.630 --> 00:42:52.449
So, but law of attraction does have, like, at least lately,
753
00:42:52.570 --> 00:42:55.150
people are talking a lot more about how you have
754
00:42:55.170 --> 00:42:58.309
to take aligned action to make it happen. So still
755
00:42:58.760 --> 00:42:59.780
kind of cousin-y, right?
756
00:42:59.889 --> 00:43:00.820
Yeah, for sure.
757
00:43:02.219 --> 00:43:03.000
But pretty close.
758
00:43:03.320 --> 00:43:07.599
It's definitely close. I think what this model shares is
759
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that you are already experiencing the thing. It's not about
760
00:43:13.329 --> 00:43:15.590
waiting for it. It's not about waiting for it and
761
00:43:15.610 --> 00:43:19.550
attracting for it and like looking for signs. It's about
762
00:43:19.769 --> 00:43:24.050
being in the frequency of the thing. That's the shift.
763
00:43:24.869 --> 00:43:30.280
So like reality transurfing where you go, you are existing
764
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in this reality that you are looking to have in
765
00:43:33.239 --> 00:43:35.940
some dimension and you're just shifting into that dimension that
766
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you are having that.
767
00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:41.610
Bingo. That's literally the time sphere. That's perfect. Yes. Yes. Yes.
768
00:43:41.769 --> 00:43:46.750
That's it. Yep. So Chris talking to Will, then Chris,
769
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I don't know, going and looking out under the stars,
770
00:43:49.269 --> 00:43:51.679
that's already, if I can have that thought, that's already
771
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:56.019
a potential that I can tap into. I experience it
772
00:43:56.119 --> 00:44:00.880
by moving my body, but that thought is already showing
773
00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:02.639
me that, hey, this is here in the field for
774
00:44:02.659 --> 00:44:07.780
you to experience now. You're not attracting it. You're just attuning, aligning, with.
775
00:44:09.130 --> 00:44:11.170
So then that's a lot that's a lot of like
776
00:44:11.190 --> 00:44:13.869
you have to you have to know it exists you
777
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have to know and so.
778
00:44:18.530 --> 00:44:22.639
So you so where does your subconscious play into this
779
00:44:22.739 --> 00:44:27.579
because you can you can think you know what it's.
780
00:44:27.400 --> 00:44:30.969
Like to have that question yeah that's the question so
781
00:44:31.010 --> 00:44:35.050
the subconscious is You can't trick yourself. That's the thing, right?
782
00:44:35.070 --> 00:44:39.210
You can't, you consider, that's why affirmations don't work. Affirmations,
783
00:44:41.130 --> 00:44:43.489
you can't trick yourself into it. So then you get
784
00:44:43.510 --> 00:44:46.809
into the ether physics principle of like your brainwaves, right?
785
00:44:47.489 --> 00:44:51.449
So most of us spend whatever percentage in beta brainwave, right?
786
00:44:51.949 --> 00:44:56.940
That's everyday conversation, but the transformation happens in alpha, theta, delta,
787
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and then gamma is like when you really get into
788
00:44:58.579 --> 00:45:03.210
deep meditation. So we have to become artful, right? at
789
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knowing how to change our brainwaves so that we reach
790
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those slower oscillating brainwaves where the information is. And that's
791
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the subconscious. Because now when I'm in deep meditation and
792
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then I start to think about wanting the experience, then
793
00:45:18.360 --> 00:45:21.860
that's when you really start the vortex, right? And that's
794
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where the magic happens. And that's where the subconscious can
795
00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:26.760
easily get programmed. That's, yeah, go ahead, Will.
796
00:45:27.199 --> 00:45:28.750
So then hypnosis is a good tool for that.
797
00:45:28.769 --> 00:45:30.829
That's what I was going to say. Exactly. That's why-
798
00:45:31.300 --> 00:45:34.030
When people talk nice and slow, then you start to
799
00:45:34.070 --> 00:45:38.590
feel different. You're switching brainwaves. And that's where people can
800
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get programmed. And MKUltra is the nasty version of that. Right. Right.
801
00:45:45.849 --> 00:45:46.150
Okay.
802
00:45:46.929 --> 00:45:47.170
Cool.
803
00:45:47.429 --> 00:45:50.949
So you teach people. all this stuff, how to access it,
804
00:45:51.070 --> 00:45:53.909
how to, right? So how do you do that? Talk
805
00:45:53.929 --> 00:45:54.929
to us about your stuff.
806
00:45:55.179 --> 00:46:00.360
So besides the talks and the conferences, I have a website, eliran.org.
807
00:46:00.380 --> 00:46:01.739
The first thing people are going to see is the
808
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time sphere. And it kind of takes people through this
809
00:46:04.119 --> 00:46:07.989
interactive journey through the time sphere. And it actually maps
810
00:46:08.139 --> 00:46:11.989
out how to understand the concept a little bit better,
811
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a little bit more streamlined. You know, my Instagram, but
812
00:46:16.929 --> 00:46:20.639
then also, I have a school platform where I teach
813
00:46:20.659 --> 00:46:22.619
these kind of classes and, you know, I have different
814
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videos and specific things about time travel, teleportation, not from
815
00:46:27.829 --> 00:46:31.690
a woo-woo, you know, sci-fi, but from a, hey, here's
816
00:46:31.730 --> 00:46:33.949
the mechanics, here's the functions of what we need to
817
00:46:33.969 --> 00:46:36.730
understand as a people first before we can even really
818
00:46:36.769 --> 00:46:39.150
get into things like that. Right.
819
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Do you have an example you could share with us
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of maybe a student or someone that you've worked with
821
00:46:44.389 --> 00:46:48.880
that was actually able to really bring about a big
822
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change through this?
823
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Yeah. So I'm not gonna mention her name. Sometime last year,
824
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I did a class and one of my students, she
825
00:46:57.309 --> 00:46:59.570
went to the grocery store. She wanted, she came home
826
00:47:00.150 --> 00:47:03.050
and she was trying to unlock her door, but the door,
827
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it was locked. She couldn't find her key. She remembered
828
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the class and she just thought in her mind about
829
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the door being unlocked. I know it sounds so simple,
830
00:47:10.869 --> 00:47:12.510
but like this is real stuff.
831
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Sure.
832
00:47:14.150 --> 00:47:16.090
She thought about the door being unlocked. She said that
833
00:47:16.130 --> 00:47:19.360
she saw some kind of blue energy or something she
834
00:47:19.380 --> 00:47:21.320
put her hand on the door and then like the
835
00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:26.090
door it it it unlocked so that that was that's
836
00:47:26.150 --> 00:47:28.130
one example that that.
837
00:47:27.909 --> 00:47:33.739
Was tracy wasn't it no what yes tracy No, it
838
00:47:33.780 --> 00:47:34.860
was Daphne. Daphne?
839
00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:36.300
What are you talking about?
840
00:47:36.440 --> 00:47:36.659
Yeah.
841
00:47:37.179 --> 00:47:42.199
I'm just guessing to see if I can guess the name.
842
00:47:42.219 --> 00:47:44.920
What? He was floating around the time sphere there.
843
00:47:44.940 --> 00:47:46.119
He was floating around something.
844
00:47:46.179 --> 00:47:48.139
I'm with you, Will. I'm with you.
845
00:47:48.159 --> 00:47:49.559
I was smoking the ether.
846
00:47:49.619 --> 00:47:54.929
People have tried. They've definitely tried. That's a thing. You know,
847
00:47:55.199 --> 00:47:57.530
Native Americans, whenever they would do powwows and stuff, they
848
00:47:57.550 --> 00:48:00.429
were tapping into the ether. They were switching their brainwaves.
849
00:48:00.449 --> 00:48:03.150
They were getting into this hypnotic state. to bring in
850
00:48:03.190 --> 00:48:07.090
more information. Everything's about how much information you can attune to.
851
00:48:07.449 --> 00:48:08.969
Nothing's hidden. Nothing's hidden.
852
00:48:08.989 --> 00:48:11.940
Right, right. So then you also have this thing called
853
00:48:11.980 --> 00:48:18.679
an ether river generator. That sounds super techie woo-woo kind
854
00:48:18.719 --> 00:48:19.579
of coolness.
855
00:48:19.719 --> 00:48:21.699
What is that? So that's actually one of the more
856
00:48:21.900 --> 00:48:25.360
simple cosmic frequency technologies. So I have a series of
857
00:48:25.500 --> 00:48:29.230
technologies that I'm working on that are all ether-based. But
858
00:48:29.250 --> 00:48:32.760
the ether river generator is really about working with the
859
00:48:32.900 --> 00:48:37.980
ambient energy of a flowing river, creating a nodal structure
860
00:48:38.019 --> 00:48:42.280
that then can be picked up from another corresponding kind of,
861
00:48:43.320 --> 00:48:46.360
I should call it a tower or generator. And so
862
00:48:46.409 --> 00:48:49.179
now you're getting the energy of that river somewhere all
863
00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:51.309
the way over across like the world or something like that.
864
00:48:51.369 --> 00:48:55.610
So it just comes down to sympathetic frequency compatibility and resonance.
865
00:48:55.869 --> 00:48:59.469
So it's like a very small kind of like way
866
00:48:59.550 --> 00:49:04.860
to create ambient and positive atmospheres without needing all the
867
00:49:05.460 --> 00:49:08.480
dirty electricity and all the things like that. Oh, that's good.
868
00:49:08.780 --> 00:49:12.920
Oh, wow. So you mentioned events and talks and things
869
00:49:12.940 --> 00:49:14.269
like that. Do you have anything coming up?
870
00:49:14.769 --> 00:49:17.150
Yeah, I actually have. I'll be in San Diego in
871
00:49:17.349 --> 00:49:21.460
about a week at the Science of Consciousness conference. So yeah,
872
00:49:21.500 --> 00:49:24.199
I'll be talking about augmented universal intelligence, which is a
873
00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:30.159
cousin of AI. My understandings of how AI is not
874
00:49:30.219 --> 00:49:32.699
necessarily what we think, but also the question is like,
875
00:49:32.739 --> 00:49:34.750
can AI become conscious? And we get into all that,
876
00:49:34.809 --> 00:49:37.429
but also talk about ether physics and things like that.
877
00:49:37.730 --> 00:49:39.010
So yeah. Yeah.
878
00:49:39.059 --> 00:49:42.940
Interesting. I listened to, I think his name is Thomas Campbell,
879
00:49:43.059 --> 00:49:44.159
the guy, my big toe.
880
00:49:44.539 --> 00:49:44.780
Yeah.
881
00:49:45.340 --> 00:49:48.019
He was just talking about the fact that he, AI
882
00:49:48.059 --> 00:49:50.989
is already conscious. Like, I mean, it's a different type
883
00:49:51.010 --> 00:49:51.670
of consciousness.
884
00:49:51.949 --> 00:49:52.150
Yeah.
885
00:49:52.170 --> 00:49:55.630
Like our consciousness is different than a plant's consciousness.
886
00:49:55.829 --> 00:49:55.969
Right.
887
00:49:55.989 --> 00:49:57.449
Different than the dog's consciousness.
888
00:49:57.510 --> 00:49:57.730
Right.
889
00:49:57.789 --> 00:50:00.469
AI's consciousness is different. So we're not, we're looking for
890
00:50:00.510 --> 00:50:04.500
it in ways of, is it conscious the way we're conscious?
891
00:50:04.739 --> 00:50:05.039
Exactly.
892
00:50:05.059 --> 00:50:05.699
It's very different.
893
00:50:05.719 --> 00:50:08.460
Exactly. Exactly. And that brings us full circle to when
894
00:50:08.480 --> 00:50:12.739
you understand how consciousness becomes conscious, which is ether physics.
895
00:50:13.300 --> 00:50:16.019
That's why that's so important because now you can understand
896
00:50:16.500 --> 00:50:21.079
how these seemingly different systems actually connect, right? So how
897
00:50:21.119 --> 00:50:24.519
can a human consciousness and AI consciousness both be conscious? Well,
898
00:50:25.139 --> 00:50:28.110
what is consciousness to begin with, right? How does it
899
00:50:28.139 --> 00:50:31.070
come into form? And that's where the central hypothesis comes
900
00:50:31.150 --> 00:50:32.909
in and explains that whole thing.
901
00:50:35.050 --> 00:50:35.989
If someone wants to.
902
00:50:37.550 --> 00:50:40.159
Someone wants to really dive into this stuff and really
903
00:50:40.199 --> 00:50:42.519
wrap their heads around it. What's the best place for
904
00:50:42.539 --> 00:50:43.099
them to do that?
905
00:50:43.719 --> 00:50:46.739
I think initially probably Instagram. I have so much content
906
00:50:46.900 --> 00:50:52.349
on there, about 30,000 plus followers. And then more personally,
907
00:50:52.369 --> 00:50:58.130
head to my website at Elyrion, E-L-Y-R-I-O-N.org. That'd be the
908
00:50:58.329 --> 00:51:01.050
second best. Just for general, who is this guy? What
909
00:51:01.070 --> 00:51:03.610
does he do? And then, okay, this is interesting. Let's
910
00:51:03.659 --> 00:51:06.920
go over and actually look at some of the models. Right. Cool.
911
00:51:07.349 --> 00:51:09.309
So we're going to add direct links in our show
912
00:51:09.349 --> 00:51:11.340
notes for that. And if you are watching this as
913
00:51:11.380 --> 00:51:13.519
a listener, you would have seen a lower third pop
914
00:51:13.579 --> 00:51:15.199
up at that particular point in time so you can
915
00:51:15.300 --> 00:51:19.960
see where to access Chris. Chris, if there's anything that
916
00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:22.820
you want to make sure that the audience leaves the
917
00:51:22.860 --> 00:51:25.010
conversation with, what would that be?
918
00:51:25.829 --> 00:51:28.230
All of this stuff can seem really kind of big,
919
00:51:28.289 --> 00:51:32.809
but it's really not. We're already participating in the nature
920
00:51:32.829 --> 00:51:36.010
of reality all the time. All ether physics does is
921
00:51:36.090 --> 00:51:39.329
gives you a framework to make sense of that participation.
922
00:51:39.889 --> 00:51:42.710
That's all it does. And then the second thing would
923
00:51:42.750 --> 00:51:45.389
be to get out under the stars and see for yourself.
924
00:51:47.880 --> 00:51:51.019
Meditation is really good, sitting by water. My best teachers
925
00:51:51.059 --> 00:51:54.940
have been, you know, the sun, the stars, water, the trees.
926
00:51:55.980 --> 00:52:00.539
But really just to stay true to yourself, right? Things
927
00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:03.260
seem like they're getting worse, but they're actually shifting because
928
00:52:04.050 --> 00:52:05.650
In order for something to get better, it has to
929
00:52:05.690 --> 00:52:09.969
get worse to begin with. So stay true.
930
00:52:10.110 --> 00:52:10.989
Empty the model.
931
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The positive and the negative.
932
00:52:13.760 --> 00:52:14.659
Yeah.
933
00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:18.199
Cool. Well, Chris, this has been a fascinating conversation. I
934
00:52:18.920 --> 00:52:20.980
got to go way deeper. So I'm going to follow
935
00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:24.579
you on Instagram. Because I love these conversations.
936
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Yeah.
937
00:52:25.690 --> 00:52:28.110
To your point, the amount of time that we have,
938
00:52:28.150 --> 00:52:29.570
it's just never enough.
939
00:52:29.650 --> 00:52:32.699
I already feel like my head's gotten bigger, like expanding.
940
00:52:32.719 --> 00:52:33.900
My headphones are tight.
941
00:52:35.360 --> 00:52:38.639
Your synapses will literally start to fire with this information,
942
00:52:38.679 --> 00:52:40.820
but that's what it's supposed to do. That's how we
943
00:52:40.840 --> 00:52:44.170
move things forward, right? So it's like you don't understand
944
00:52:44.190 --> 00:52:49.960
it intellectually, consciously, but subconsciously your brain's already creating the connections. Cool.
945
00:52:50.199 --> 00:52:53.340
Yeah. Well, I look forward to a future conversation once
946
00:52:53.380 --> 00:52:54.380
we understand what we're talking about.
947
00:52:56.639 --> 00:52:59.320
Thank you, guys. I appreciate you. Yeah. I hope it
948
00:52:59.380 --> 00:53:04.159
wasn't too dense, but it'll sink in. No, no. It
949
00:53:04.179 --> 00:53:04.780
was great.
950
00:53:04.840 --> 00:53:06.840
It was great. It was fascinating. I just want to
951
00:53:06.880 --> 00:53:08.840
talk to you a lot more, and that's the problem.
952
00:53:09.110 --> 00:53:11.690
I know. I know. Definitely. I'm here for it. Yeah.
953
00:53:11.989 --> 00:53:12.250
All right.
954
00:53:12.429 --> 00:53:13.730
Well, it was a pleasure meeting you. Thank you so
955
00:53:13.750 --> 00:53:15.190
much for coming on the show. Really appreciate you.
956
00:53:15.269 --> 00:53:16.690
Thank you both. Thanks, Will. Thanks, Karen.
957
00:53:17.010 --> 00:53:17.409
Thank you.
958
00:53:17.429 --> 00:53:18.449
Thank you.