Little Stranger

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Hello, and welcome everybody to uh the Sinful Shell first episode.
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Um, we are wearing the same outfits as our intro episode because we're recording the same day.
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Yay! Um, so if you don't remember, we are talking about little strangers.
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Uh, or little stranger.
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Oh my god.
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Um, we're talking about Little Stranger by Lay Rivers.
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And Heather is going to read the content warning one more time for everybody before we start the episode.
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And please note that there will be spoilers.
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A lot of spoilers.
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We are going to get very deep into this book.
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Yay.
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Just like something.
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Anyways.
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Um anyways, I actually I also just want to say before we start, uh, if you are under the age of 18, please leave.
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Turn back now.
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Turn back.
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Um back when you're 18.
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I do not support underage people reading these books.
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Um we get into a lot of heavy sexual topics and foul language and depravity.
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So if you're underage, which I hope you're not, don't listen, please.
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And please don't read these books until you're over the age of 18.
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Yes.
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Um But this is Dottie.
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She's gonna help us in this podcast.
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We also call her to tilde.
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She is giving main character energy throughout this entire thing.
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Snoozing.
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Um, but anyways, I'm gonna read the content and trigger warnings directly from the book itself.
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Um just so that you guys know from the author's mouth exactly what uh to look out for.
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If any of these points make you uncomfortable, please come back to an episode you might feel more comfortable in reading.
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Um anyways, this book contains characters that are foster siblings, not blood related.
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They put our race together.
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Um if you are comfortable with heavy somnophilia, C and C, dubious consent, drugging, branding, choking, sex over a dying body, with other kinks like brother-sister kinks, knife play, primal play, blood play, pain, screwdrivers, fear, light breeding, anal and spider play, Malachi Vise, my new favorite mute psychopath is waiting for you.
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Um again, this book is Little Stranger by Leigh Rivers.
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Let's get into it.
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So let's just preface this by saying you read the physical copy of the book.
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Yes, I did.
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Yep.
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I listened to the audiobook um because I could not get the physical copy in time for us to start this.
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So our opinions of this book may be a little bit different.
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We may have different things to talk about regarding it.
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Um, but I typically read physical copies before ever listening to the audiobooks, but that just didn't happen this time.
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I mean, I generally read the books first before listening to them.
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Um, but generally, if I like the book as a physical physical copy, I'll read it as an audiobook.
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I didn't quite have time this time.
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Um, and let's also just say this was our first time reading this book for both of us.
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Um, I have never read this book before now.
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She had never read the book before now.
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I had actually never even read anything by this author before now.
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So I have not read anything by about this author either.
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Um, this book is a duet.
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There is a sequel to this book.
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I have not read that yet.
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Um I don't believe you've read it either.
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I've never read that one either.
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Um we're not gonna get into that book today because neither one of us read it, so it's kind of kind of hard to be talk talk about something we haven't read.
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Um but you know, one thing I do want to ask, you know, I know we're cousins, but you're the only one here with a brother.
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Yeah.
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Who is blood related, so it is very different than what happened in the book.
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But being a little sister to a bigger brother, how did this brother-sister trope feel to read?
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It's it's awkward.
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Um, because this isn't the first, like either step sibling or foster sibling book that I've read, as you know, because we've read the same other book that I'm referencing.
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Um, it's always super uncomfortable, especially when the topics heavily focus on the little brother or the big brother, little sister thing.
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Yeah, it's really uncomfortable.
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Um it's weird.
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Um not that it's like I'm saying it's weird, and I know some people are into it.
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I know judgment, but being a little sister, it's a little strange to listen to the the play like that.
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A little strange.
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Yeah, it's a little strange.
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Um, it definitely is a different way to listen to it because you don't have any brothers, you just have to do it.
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I yeah.
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So that's why I'm like, for me, it's like not that awkward to read because I don't have any brothers.
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But at the same time, it's like they're not blood related, which is what makes it okay.
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But like I've read books that are big brother, little sister, where they're step siblings, but weren't raised together.
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But these kids, the these kids, these two were raised together.
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I think that makes it a little different for me.
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I every time they mention like big brother, little sister, I got even more uncomfortable every single time.
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It was like a big cringe moment for me.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Not the biggest cringe moment, not the biggest.
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We'll get into that topic a little bit later um when we get further into the discussion, but no, being somebody's actual blood-related little sister, I was uncomfortable reading it.
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I'm not going to lie to you.
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Yeah, I mean, if I if I kind of like disassociated the little brother, big sister or big sister, little brother, sorry.
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If I disassociated that from the acts of this sexual scenes, it was perfectly fine to read those.
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I just kind of had to like disassociate that a little bit.
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Yeah, yeah, no, I I agree with you.
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Um but I didn't hate it.
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I didn't hate the book, no.
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I actually really enjoyed the book.
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Um it was very depraved.
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It was incredibly depraved.
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Um it overall, I think it was a good book.
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And I would really love to continue reading, but or like read it for the first time again.
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Yeah, it's it's one of those books that I'm like, I'd read it again for the first time if I had that magic ability in my life.
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And I also cannot wait to read the second one, the way the first one ended and um the description of the second book.
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I am extremely looking forward to the second book.
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Yeah.
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Um see, I haven't even read the description of the second book, so that's kind of like on me for not doing that research.
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But I, you know, I'm really excited to see where they go with the relationship and everything that happens.
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I am too, like, especially with the way the book ended, of like this is the end, or is it?
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It's like, all right, now I have to know more.
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Yes, absolutely.
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I have to know more.
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Like it ended on a good note with the two of their them and their relationship, but I need more.
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I agree with you.
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I need more.
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It was a it was a quick read.
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Um, I will say that.
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Um, so what we're gonna do is we should start getting into some of our like discussion topics that we have.
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Absolutely.
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Go first.
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Sure.
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So, what was your favorite part of the book?
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My favorite part of the book, and this is gonna sound so deranged.
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My favorite part of the book is probably when Olivia was in the gas station and she was speaking with Adam, and he came in, Malachi came in and beat the living shit out of Adam just for talking to her.
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Just for talking to her.
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Honestly, that's a good part of the book.
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I think, however, my favorite part of the book is the corn maze.
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That's my okay.
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I'm I'm with you.
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I'm with you because that is probably my second favorite part of the book.
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I mean, like, if we're if we're getting into like sex scenes, like that is my favorite sex scene by far, but also like just the chase.
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The chasing, the everything involved.
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Like, she doesn't know that it's her brother.
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Like, she thinks it's some strange man that she just approached and started talking to her bike and was already willing to be chased by him.
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Like, I feel like that shows some sort of depravity in itself that she just met this man and is willing to let him chase her through a corn maze.
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But like, hot, attractive man.
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She's never seen his face.
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Yeah, but the body was hot.
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That's a good point.
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Because she saw him with the motorcycle, everything like that.
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She didn't see his, but she didn't see his figure either because he was fully clothed, because she he didn't want her to see his tattoos.
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So she literally approached a stranger and is just like, this is on.
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Yeah.
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You know, meet me here, we're gonna run through a corn maze together.
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And you know what?
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The fact that she was smart enough to take off her heels before booking it, I am so proud of her for that one.
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I I would never be in this kind of situation.
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Neither would I, but if I was ever in that situation, I don't believe I'd be able to take off the heels first.
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I wouldn't even think twice.
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I mean, I don't think I'd be in heels in the first place.
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No, I'd be but if I was, I mean, I do know how to run in heels, but like I still think I would make it so that I get caught.
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But again, fictional, hypothetical situation would never happen in our stay out of my real life.
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No, but my my point on the gas station thing is the possessiveness.
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I absolutely just adore when a main character like a male main character is that possessive.
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Even a female main character being possessive like that.
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When the female main character is possessive, but a badass possessive.
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I I'm just I love an I love a possessive person.
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Like, if you're so deeply in love, but even if you can't express that you're deeply in love with that person, just the acts of it, yes, it just it shines a little bit of light into it, even though it's very depraved and very dark.
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Oh yeah, that you are willing to go this far to hurt somebody just for speaking to the person that you love.
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Oh yeah, but I'm like at the same time, that that was kind of hot.
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It was kind of hot, yeah.
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Yeah, 100%.
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And she was turned on by that too.
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Yes, she even said it, so it couldn't have been that bad.
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Yeah.
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All right, I'm gonna get my first question.
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I'm sorry, guys, it's on my phone.
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Do you believe that this book would have given you a book hangover?
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No, I don't get book hangovers very often.
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I I think just like the fact that there's a sequel and that I want to read the sequel so badly is the reason I don't have a book hangover over this.
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I I agree with you 100% because I have had really bad book hangovers.
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Before this book, I have not read an actual like new book in probably six months because I had such a bad book hangover.
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Yeah.
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And this is kind of jumping me back into the genre and jumping me back into wanting to read more.
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This isn't a jump, this is a deep dive back into the genre.
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I went right off a cliff, it's fine.
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Yeah, we went we went right over the deep end with this being our our first book.
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But you know, the wheel chose.
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The wheel chose and it chose right.
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It did, it really chose it really did.
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I think this was the best book to start off with because it was smaller, so we could really like get into it.
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Um, but anyways, um what was your least favorite part about the book?
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The brother-sister thing.
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See, for me, it was the fact that her mother sold her virginity when we're talking.
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Do you have a question about least favorite and favorite characters?
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Yeah, I'm gonna discuss that more then.
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But my least favorite part of the book is probably the brother-sister thing.
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I also really hate the spider scene where she puts the spider on her face.
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Like, I don't like spiders, I'm not afraid of them, but I don't put one on me.
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I just don't like tarantulas, yeah, those freak me out.
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I'm sorry, but I don't think I could want sex if you had a spider on my face and then were creepily singing the it'sy bitsy spider to me.
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Listening to that part on audiobook, I loved that part, but I feel like it's a little bit creepier because you're making it up in your head when you're reading the book.
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But oh my god, it was oh, it was traumatic.
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Do you remember an elementary school, or did you ever have an elementary school when like the touring zoos would come around to the elementary schools and bring the tarantulas?
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Yes.
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I'm sorry.
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That's all I could think of because I was terrified of those things when they brought them.
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Keep keep spiders at a distance from me, or even better yet, behind glass.
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But the minute you take it out and approach me with it or put it on my body, all bets are off.
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All bets are off.
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I fuck that shit.
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I am not here for spider play.
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Look, in my relationship, I'm the one who kills the spiders.
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But if it was a tarantula in my home, I would just torch it down.
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No if, ands, or buts about it.
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I mean, yeah.
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Because there's no way I can just trample one of those.
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Oh god, no.
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No, I'm sorry, but they're creepy.
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They're a hundred percent creepy, and I I'm not here for those.
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But it added to the darkness of the book, I guess.
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Yes, it did, and like the rest of that scene, if you ignored the spider, was perfect.
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I do want to say though, with the spider, I wish they came up with like she came up with a better name for the spider, other than Spiky.
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Well, spiky was the first one.
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I don't think we ever met got a name for the second one.
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I don't think so, but I do believe there should have been a better name than Spiky for a tarantula.
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Yeah.
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It's just it it's so mundane for a for a tarantula name.
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Yeah.
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But I do like his like dynamic of like why he loves tarantula so much.
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Yeah, I truly thought when I was listening to this book they weren't going to deep dive into his past.
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But I mean they didn't, but the fact that you know he had a spider under his bed, and that's why he locked away his voice because the spider was didn't talk.
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Right.
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But was powerful to him.
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Powerful in a way where it didn't need to.
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Exactly.
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So he locked away his own voice so that people couldn't take that part of him away.
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And honestly, that was it was such an emotional piece of the story that really made you understand so it really explains why like he is the way that he is, and and his love for his spider.
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Honestly, I hated the fact for him that they killed his first spider, Spiky.
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Yes, like that's tragic.
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I I get why they did it, but at the end of the day, it's his pet.
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And if you did that to like my cat or my dog, I'd be pissed too.
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I would never ever forgive the person who did that to any one of my cats.
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Oh god.
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Or one of my dogs.
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I'm not a spider person, but for the exotic pet lovers out there, I could not imagine losing your pet because somebody doesn't like your pet.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I I don't know if it had more to do with the pet or just him and wanting revenge on him.
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On Malik, yeah, for what he did to the dev.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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Okay, I get that though.
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Also, um, okay.
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My next talking point.
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Um, did this book make you want to read other books from the same author?
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Not Little Liar, which is the sequel, but just generally, does her writing style and this book in general make you want to read another one?
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Yes.
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I want to see what other psychopaths she can come up with.
00:17:55.119 --> 00:17:55.759
Yes.
00:17:56.400 --> 00:18:02.240
Because like Malachi is so psychotic.
00:18:02.480 --> 00:18:03.039
Yep.
00:18:03.279 --> 00:18:04.559
And I love him.
00:18:05.200 --> 00:18:07.200
I I deeply love him.
00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:18.559
Um, but I I want to know what other psychopaths she has out there in in her her book world, but I'm also wondering if she has any softer characters too.
00:18:19.200 --> 00:18:21.440
Yeah, I know I thought about that too.
00:18:21.599 --> 00:18:32.559
Like, I because for me personally, after a super dark book, I want to read something a little bit lighter, um, or something not as dark as what we read.
00:18:32.720 --> 00:18:33.039
Yeah.
00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:35.920
That's just a personal preference for me.
00:18:36.160 --> 00:18:40.720
And I would love to see what other worlds she creates, what other characters she can create.
00:18:41.039 --> 00:18:44.880
Because I loved the way that she did all the psychological.
00:18:45.519 --> 00:18:51.759
There was a lot of psychological psychological stuff in here, and I just I love that aspect of it.
00:18:52.319 --> 00:18:55.759
And I want to know more of what she can just make.
00:18:56.079 --> 00:18:59.920
Yeah, I I I don't know what else she has out there for books.
00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:03.599
I don't know if these were her first two, but it doesn't sound like they are.
00:19:03.920 --> 00:19:06.720
They're the writing is way too good to be her first.
00:19:07.039 --> 00:19:18.799
Honestly, I'm really excited to see, you know, what what else she has, and you know, maybe that's a book we'll explore further down the line of like what else she has to share with us because I'd love to know.
00:19:19.119 --> 00:19:20.640
Absolutely, absolutely.
00:19:20.960 --> 00:19:23.599
Leigh Rivers, we're here for more.
00:19:23.839 --> 00:19:25.119
We are here for more.
00:19:25.440 --> 00:19:33.039
Um, what was your favorite character, and what was your least favorite character, and why?
00:19:33.440 --> 00:19:36.880
Okay, I'm gonna start with least favorite because I kind of already talked about this.
00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:40.000
The mother is my least favorite character.
00:19:40.880 --> 00:19:47.200
The fact that she sold her virginity, was selling her to different families for power moves.
00:19:47.440 --> 00:19:55.440
What a bitch! Horrendous, truly just horrendous, and all of those guys I would put those guys as well, except for Adam.
00:19:55.680 --> 00:20:00.720
That's only because he was that's only because he was gay, yes, and he wasn't an asshole.
00:20:00.880 --> 00:20:03.359
No, he was just terrified.
00:20:03.519 --> 00:20:06.880
The man that she was supposed to marry at the end of the book.
00:20:06.960 --> 00:20:07.759
What was his name?
00:20:07.920 --> 00:20:10.559
Uh was it Xander Xavier?
00:20:10.880 --> 00:20:12.000
I think it was Xander.
00:20:12.880 --> 00:20:14.160
I don't remember.
00:20:14.480 --> 00:20:16.160
It was something along those lines.
00:20:16.400 --> 00:20:18.000
I wanna say it was Xander.
00:20:18.319 --> 00:20:19.839
I think it was in the epilogue.
00:20:21.920 --> 00:20:24.079
Yeah, I think it I think it was Xander.
00:20:24.400 --> 00:20:28.160
Either way, I did not enjoy him either.
00:20:28.319 --> 00:20:28.640
No.
00:20:28.799 --> 00:20:32.400
Because a man who will make you dye your hair a specific color.
00:20:32.559 --> 00:20:32.880
Yeah.
00:20:33.119 --> 00:20:36.880
I'm sorry, but you don't get to tell me how to look or how to dress.
00:20:37.119 --> 00:20:41.119
No, how to look, how to dress, speak when you're spoken to.
00:20:41.759 --> 00:20:43.680
No, not puppetry.
00:20:44.000 --> 00:20:49.440
I am too much of a strong-willed person to ever be okay with that.
00:20:49.680 --> 00:21:02.160
Yeah, and then the man who was bla Parker, the one who was blackmailing her saying, I'm gonna tell the entire world your mom gave me$5,000 to fuck you.
00:21:02.480 --> 00:21:07.759
All because he wanted him to get he wanted her to blow him and his friends.
00:21:07.920 --> 00:21:18.960
I'm sorry, but she was right to get Malachi involved and 100%, just the simple act of sending the location and he was there with his friends too.
00:21:19.599 --> 00:21:23.599
Yes, I loved that was amazing on his part.
00:21:23.759 --> 00:21:29.519
And like I loved that the like when they got home, the dad stood up for them, yeah.
00:21:29.599 --> 00:21:31.279
And even against the mom.
00:21:31.599 --> 00:21:39.279
Yeah, and literally thanked Malachi for helping for helping her and taking the bat and saying, I'm gonna handle this.
00:21:39.519 --> 00:21:44.640
Yeah, I that was probably the one of the best dad moments, yes, it in the book.
00:21:44.960 --> 00:21:50.480
Honestly, yes, I liked the dad, I did not hate the dad, he's not my favorite character.
00:21:50.799 --> 00:21:52.720
I had a love hate relationship with him.
00:21:52.960 --> 00:21:59.759
Yes, I did not like how he treated Malachi throughout the entire book, besides that part, because in the beginning.
00:22:00.640 --> 00:22:05.359
They did talk about how Malachi would be pulled into a study and he'd come out with bruises.
00:22:05.680 --> 00:22:06.000
Yeah.
00:22:06.240 --> 00:22:07.039
I don't like that part.
00:22:07.200 --> 00:22:07.680
I don't know.
00:22:07.759 --> 00:22:08.559
I don't like that part.
00:22:08.720 --> 00:22:12.079
I like him towards the end and that little bit in the middle.
00:22:12.559 --> 00:22:21.519
Um, but in the end, after he was thrown down the stairs after being badly beaten by Malachi, he became a better dad.
00:22:21.680 --> 00:22:23.359
He became a way better dad after that.
00:22:23.839 --> 00:22:28.319
And honestly, like him telling her to go to him at the very end.
00:22:28.559 --> 00:22:35.039
And being willing to try to forgive Malachi just because Olivia loved him.
00:22:35.279 --> 00:22:35.519
Yes.
00:22:35.680 --> 00:22:37.440
And he just wanted his angel happy.
00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:39.119
Like, I I loved that.
00:22:39.279 --> 00:22:41.200
I think that was a win for dad at that point.
00:22:41.279 --> 00:22:41.759
Yes.
00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:50.559
Um, my least favorite character is Ulsa Mom for the same points of like selling her daughter and trying to control her daughter.
00:22:50.799 --> 00:22:57.839
And I'm sorry, but what DCF community would ever hand those two children?
00:22:58.720 --> 00:23:02.000
Yeah, I just knowing that.
00:23:02.079 --> 00:23:06.319
And how is she a judge selling your children?
00:23:06.640 --> 00:23:07.039
Yeah.
00:23:07.279 --> 00:23:11.599
I'm assuming that like the judicial system and DCF didn't know about all of this.
00:23:11.759 --> 00:23:12.400
They couldn't have.
00:23:12.640 --> 00:23:14.960
Like, even the dad didn't know about her being sold.
00:23:15.119 --> 00:23:15.359
Right.
00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:22.160
So I think Olivia really just kept all of that to herself and just didn't want anybody to know.
00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:24.079
Because she wouldn't even tell Malachi about that.
00:23:24.319 --> 00:23:24.720
I know.
00:23:24.880 --> 00:23:33.359
But imagine having to like go through your life hiding being sold just so that you don't have to leave your family.
00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:34.799
And disappoint your mother.
00:23:34.960 --> 00:23:36.480
Like just having that high.
00:23:36.880 --> 00:23:37.920
I love my mother.
00:23:38.160 --> 00:23:39.359
I respect my mother.
00:23:39.599 --> 00:23:44.960
If she tried to sew me, I don't think I would take it as well as Olivia did, or in the way that Olivia did.
00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:46.319
I would revolt.
00:23:46.559 --> 00:23:50.720
I would like pack up my things and leave in the middle of the night just to get away.
00:23:50.960 --> 00:24:00.079
I think this also kind of tight like tacks onto the point of the psychological thing as well, though, because Olivia had a family.
00:24:00.720 --> 00:24:05.200
She was taken from that family because of how badly the conditions in her home were.
00:24:05.359 --> 00:24:05.599
Yes.
00:24:05.839 --> 00:24:17.440
And she's placed with people who claimed to love her, treated her well, other than selling her, but treated her really well and treated her like family and way better than her originally, like her birth family did.
00:24:17.680 --> 00:24:26.799
So I think that's kind of where the psychological thing would come in, where she's like, I don't want to disappo disappoint the person who came in here and essentially saved me.
00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:30.160
And she even says that they saved me from that house.
00:24:30.799 --> 00:24:34.799
So I I think that also kind of ties into the way that Olivia reacted to that point.
00:24:35.200 --> 00:24:39.279
I mean, I do wish that we got a little bit more of Olivia's background than we did.
00:24:39.440 --> 00:24:39.759
Yeah.
00:24:39.920 --> 00:24:41.279
Because we didn't get much of it.
00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:45.279
Like we got we definitely got a lot more of Malachi's background than we ever did of hers.
00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:46.319
And we still didn't get much.
00:24:46.400 --> 00:24:47.359
And we still didn't get much.
00:24:47.440 --> 00:24:54.640
Like I would really love to know a little bit more about their background so we can understand a little bit more of why they are the way that they are.
00:24:55.039 --> 00:24:55.519
100%.
00:24:56.400 --> 00:24:59.279
In this respect, what is your favorite character in this book?
00:24:59.519 --> 00:25:01.359
Uh my favorite character is Malachi.
00:25:02.240 --> 00:25:03.519
Okay, I see it.
00:25:04.960 --> 00:25:09.200
Honestly, he's protective of the one person that he cares about.
00:25:09.839 --> 00:25:11.359
He's very misunderstood.
00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:15.200
Like he's labeled a psychopath, but I don't think that's true.
00:25:16.960 --> 00:25:23.119
Well, fully because he he is able to love.
00:25:23.519 --> 00:25:25.359
He loves Olivia.
00:25:25.440 --> 00:25:31.839
And it yes, it's very possessive in that psycho way, but I'm sorry.
00:25:32.799 --> 00:25:38.960
I I love that he's just absolutely willing to do anything for her and to get her.
00:25:39.039 --> 00:25:42.240
Like he learned to speak for her, specifically for her.
00:25:42.319 --> 00:25:45.599
And he was learning the first word he wanted to learn was her name.
00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:48.559
And I think that's absolutely adorable.
00:25:48.880 --> 00:26:04.160
Yeah, and and like even when she decided to leave him, instead of giving up and going back to being mute, he decided to go to therapy and speech therapy to try and better himself to get her back.
00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:11.039
Yeah, well, was it really to get her back though, or was it just uh I'm gonna go to go?
00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:14.480
Well, I mean, it could have been both.
00:26:14.720 --> 00:26:22.319
Because I I don't really know if he did it to get her back personally, but at the same time, I think he also did it for her.
00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:23.599
Yeah, I could see it.
00:26:23.839 --> 00:26:35.440
Which I mean, not a lot of men will do, even normal men get the help that you need to be better for not only yourself, but the person that you love.
00:26:35.680 --> 00:26:39.759
I'm a firm believer that you shouldn't go and get help specifically for the person you love.
00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:41.440
No, I think you should always do it for yourself.
00:26:42.880 --> 00:26:48.640
But if you're also doing it for someone else, it's a big plus in my opinion.
00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:49.200
Yeah.
00:26:49.359 --> 00:26:52.880
But you should always do it for yourself first, please, if you're gonna go and get help.
00:26:53.039 --> 00:26:53.599
Yes.
00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:55.839
Not specifically for someone else.
00:26:56.240 --> 00:27:00.480
Firm believer in if you need help, ask for help, get the help.
00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:05.599
Um, but at the same time, like he let her her go.
00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:08.000
Like he gave he didn't have to.
00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:08.880
He didn't have to.
00:27:09.039 --> 00:27:17.119
He if he was a true psycho, like truly hell-bended kept her keeping her, yeah, he would have kept her against her will, but he let her leave.
00:27:17.359 --> 00:27:19.279
Which I think is a big step for him.
00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:24.640
Yeah, he kept cameras on her, but he let her go.
00:27:24.799 --> 00:27:28.720
He did let her go, and I do, I do think that was a big step for him.
00:27:28.960 --> 00:27:36.240
And honestly, listening to that part in the audio was crazy, like literally crazy.
00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:47.519
Cause just the depravity in his voice in the psychosis, it's a whole different experience, yeah.
00:27:47.839 --> 00:27:50.559
Which we'll we'll talk a little bit more on a little bit later.
00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:53.279
Who is your favorite character?
00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:57.279
This is I was trying to avoid answering this.
00:27:57.440 --> 00:27:58.480
Well, too bad.
00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:03.759
So I don't technically have a favorite character in this book.
00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:04.319
Okay.
00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:09.359
Um the reason being is I do really like the book.
00:28:09.519 --> 00:28:10.799
I really like the characters.
00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:13.519
I don't think I can have a favorite character in this book.
00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:16.640
I think I love Malachi.
00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:31.519
I do, but there's just some really big red flags in here, and it's just, I don't think I could make him a favorite with some of the things that kind of happened in this book.
00:28:31.839 --> 00:28:33.039
What about Olivia?
00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:38.960
Yeah, and I I do really like Olivia's character, but I don't think I could make her a favorite.
00:28:39.119 --> 00:28:47.519
I think it's just kind of the psychological torture that she just puts herself through bugs me.
00:28:47.759 --> 00:28:50.880
Like I would never I've never been in that situation that they've been in.
00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:52.160
I would never want to be in that situation.
00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:56.640
I never want to be in that situation, and I never will be in that situation.
00:28:57.440 --> 00:29:11.680
It's just when characters know what they want, but they psych themselves out of it over and over and over again because of public image, because of what others think, it makes me so upset.
00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:12.240
Yeah.
00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:15.039
As a personal thing, it makes me upset.
00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:19.839
I do not like when characters do that, and that's all she did to herself.
00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:20.160
Yeah.
00:29:20.319 --> 00:29:24.079
So she was essentially just hurting herself over and over and over again.
00:29:24.319 --> 00:29:32.480
I mean, I can relate, not with anything that she ever did in the book, but um, like certainly not the relationship that she had.
00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:37.839
But I can understand like that fear of what other people think about you.
00:29:38.079 --> 00:29:41.920
It took me a long time to stop giving a fuck about what people think about me.
00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:51.680
But same so like I can relate to that, but at the same time, like I'm here for a strong, independent woman who don't give no fucks.
00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:52.160
Right.
00:29:52.240 --> 00:30:08.240
So I think that was kind of my thing of why I can't make her a favorite character in this book is because she didn't turn into she wasn't a strong independent woman, she was always concerned about what her mom thought, she was concerned about what her dad thought, keeping everybody happy.
00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:18.079
And like I like you said, you can relate to that on a level, I can relate to that on a level, wanting to keep everybody around you happy at the sacrifice of your own happiness.
00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:24.400
I mean, I think my favorite moment with her was her leaving him at the altar.
00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:29.599
Yes, like um Xander, like she first strong woman thing she does.
00:30:29.839 --> 00:30:36.000
Yes, yeah, and but at the same time, not all her decision because her dad told her to go.
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:37.920
And her mom said it was okay.
00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:39.680
Yeah, her mom gave that nod.
00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:44.960
She waited for her parents to say it was okay and that they wouldn't be mad about it.
00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:49.920
But the fact that her parents said okay, knowing the situation.
00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:51.279
Yeah.
00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:53.519
I mean it was a big step for them.
00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:54.880
It was kind of a wake up.
00:30:55.119 --> 00:30:59.920
It was a big character development moment for almost everybody.
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:00.799
Yeah.
00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:07.839
So I this is why I'm saying, like, I don't until I read maybe the second book, my views might change in the second book.
00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:12.240
But in this book, I can't say that Malachi is my favorite.
00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:14.240
I can't say Olivia is my favorite.
00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:20.720
The dad will never be my favorite, the mom will never be my favorite, and none of the men will ever be my favorite either.
00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:26.960
So it it's just uh I I don't think I have one at this moment in time.
00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:37.680
Yeah, I think I mean where it falls in like my other favorite books, he does not rank in my top ten of book boy friends.
00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:38.799
I'm with you.
00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:41.359
But he is he's special.
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:45.440
He he is special, you know, in more ways than one.
00:31:46.319 --> 00:31:58.480
But not my not my top ten for book boy friends, but is up there on the scale of of good men for choices.
00:31:58.880 --> 00:32:08.400
Good men is a little bit relative, but we're I'm not talking the things that he does, because those aren't necessarily good.
00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:12.240
But but but yeah, no, I see what you mean.
00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:13.039
I really do.
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:17.279
But again, like I just I don't think I could list him as a favorite.
00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:18.079
Makes sense.
00:32:18.240 --> 00:32:21.359
Or any of them as a favorite, to be completely honest with you.
00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:23.279
I'm sorry, I can't do it.
00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:25.200
Keep Luffy up in the background.
00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:27.039
Look at this man.
00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:32.559
This man would be the dumbest book boyfriend in the whole ad world.
00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:35.440
Okay, hold on.
00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:40.319
Oh, this is the question I wanted to get to.
00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:41.920
Oh god, okay.
00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:42.480
Okay.
00:32:43.119 --> 00:32:48.319
Were there any moments that made you laugh, cry, or cringe in this book?
00:32:48.720 --> 00:32:52.079
The spider made me cringe, like completely.
00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:54.720
I ugh spiders.
00:32:54.960 --> 00:33:01.359
Um laugh probably his insistence on needing teaching.
00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:10.240
And like when she kept being like, I think you've learned enough, and he's like, Teach me more.
00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:13.599
And I'm it's laughable.
00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:15.359
It's a little laughable, yeah.
00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:20.400
Especially when they've you know, one lesson should be enough, but they kept going.
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:26.079
It stopped being lessons, and that to me was just very, very pretty laughable.
00:33:26.880 --> 00:33:28.960
Were there any moments that made you cry?
00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:34.160
No, but then again, it takes a lot for me to cry.
00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:34.799
That's fair.
00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:54.559
But I think if there were anything that would m get me was going back to the point where he like talked about his love of spiders and where that comes from and his backstory and that I think that would be the only thing that would be like cry worthy for this book.
00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:57.920
Otherwise, like I again, I'm not a big crier.
00:33:58.160 --> 00:33:58.799
Yeah.
00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:01.519
So it's it's really hard to get me to cry.
00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:04.799
I think I've only cried during one book, and this was not it.
00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:11.360
Um, cringe worthy, I need to bring this up because okay.
00:34:11.840 --> 00:34:17.599
In the book, the scene where they're at the top of the staircase.
00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:19.599
I knew this was going up.
00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:25.679
This is what I cringe so hard at, and I got such bad secondhand embarrassment.
00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:32.320
When they were at the stop top of the staircase, and he ripped her pants off and threw them over the balcony.
00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:41.440
The second the dad came in holding the pants and walked to the stop top of the stairs and caught them at the top of the stairs.
00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:44.079
I paused my audiobook.
00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:52.719
I was on my drive home and I paused this audiobook because I was getting such bad secondhand embarrassment from this.
00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:56.880
I had to collect myself and start over.
00:34:57.119 --> 00:35:00.239
I mean, I can say I have never been caught by my parents.
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:00.800
Never.
00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:08.079
But it's just the fact that he was like a feral beast and refused to stop.
00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:09.199
Refused.
00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:12.159
That made me even more embarrassed.
00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:14.559
He was seeing red.
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:17.440
I understand the concept.
00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:23.920
It was very cringe in my like not cringe as in like it should have been removed from the book and not in there.
00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:32.000
Cringe as in like such secondhand embarrassment for them or for her in more of that aspect, because he didn't give a fuck.
00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:38.559
I mean, at least we can say, like, neither one of them are blood related to the parents either.
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:50.239
So it wasn't as so it's not it's still bad the worst, because it's not like he's seeing something he created, but he's raised her since she was like what six or seven?
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:51.599
Something like that.
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:58.079
And yeah, it is it is quite awkward for it's incredibly cringe worthy.
00:35:58.159 --> 00:35:58.320
Yeah.
00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:02.000
And that was horrible.
00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:10.480
I was I was like I said, I paused my audio on my way home and I had to take a minute before I started the audio again.
00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:20.000
I mean, another big cringe moment is fucking her while she's like head resting on dad's chest as he's bleeding to death.
00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:23.440
Yeah, as he's bleeding to death on the floor and unconscious.
00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:25.280
That was also super cringy.
00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:27.119
I I will give you that.
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:30.159
Um crying for this book, I had none.
00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:35.199
I I really had no instances where I would have cried in this book.
00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:37.920
Um laugh.
00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:41.679
I also don't think I laughed very much during this book either.
00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:45.119
It is laughable that he needed lessons.
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:46.000
Yes.
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:49.920
But I don't think there was a point where I'm like, this is actually really funny.
00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:58.320
No, and like I wasn't like laughing about the lessons, it's just it was a laughable concept that he needed the lessons in the first place, yeah.
00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:03.280
But like nothing about this book screamed comedy.
00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:08.880
There are some other dark romance books that I have read and you have read as well, that are comedic.
00:37:09.199 --> 00:37:12.400
Yes, yes that just have that quick comedic timing.
00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:21.199
But I think the characters in this book are just so stoic that there's really no quick whip with any of them.
00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:22.400
No, no.
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:27.119
Um, which is okay, because like not all books have to have a quick whip.
00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:32.159
But like they're very depraved in this book.
00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:33.039
Incredibly.
00:37:33.280 --> 00:37:36.559
It is it is one of the more depraved books that I have read.
00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:39.039
Not the most.
00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:41.280
I don't think so, in my opinion.
00:37:41.440 --> 00:37:46.719
It like for me personally, it is not the most depraved one, it's not even in the top five.
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:48.880
Not top five, but top ten.
00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:51.119
Maybe top ten, yeah, I'll give it top ten.
00:37:51.519 --> 00:37:52.159
Yeah.
00:37:53.119 --> 00:38:00.159
Um actually I already asked you that one.
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:03.920
Um, so what do we think of like the story in general?
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:12.320
The story as a whole is I I I really liked how it came together.
00:38:12.639 --> 00:38:17.280
I like the background of both the characters.
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:30.480
I really like the just general psychological aspect of the entire book, because I feel like it was a really heavy topic in this book, and I really liked how it ended.
00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:30.880
Yeah.
00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:35.920
And I really like that they left it off on that, is it really the end type deal?
00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:39.920
I because with the duet, I I just love when they do something like that.
00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:46.239
I like books that end like that, but when you end like that and don't give me a sequel, that's when we riot.
00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:47.360
Yes.
00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:54.880
But most people, most authors that leave off like that do a sequel, so that is appreciated from us readers.
00:38:55.199 --> 00:38:56.239
Very appreciated.
00:38:56.559 --> 00:39:00.239
Um I mean, honestly, I I agree.
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:02.639
I also did really like the story.
00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:08.960
I do wish we got a little bit more into their background a little bit more.
00:39:09.039 --> 00:39:14.320
I think that would have added even more depth to the story, and hopefully we see that in book two.
00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:16.480
You know, I can't say that she doesn't do anything.
00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:19.679
I'm just hoping we get a little bit more in book two.
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:21.119
Um, I agree.
00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:22.719
I like how the story came together.
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:24.960
I think it came along really well.
00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:25.360
Yeah.
00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:32.960
I think um, you know, it had that right amount of smut to not smut moments.
00:39:33.280 --> 00:39:34.159
I agree, yeah.
00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:40.800
And the tension that she builds throughout the entire book is really because she didn't just outright go with it.
00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:41.280
No.
00:39:41.440 --> 00:39:46.400
And the just the building of the tension and everything just kind of brought it all together.
00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:55.840
And honestly, like you could see from the very first moment that Malachi met Olivia that he was fascinated by her and wanted something more.
00:39:56.159 --> 00:40:03.760
Ran away with her in the airport, but I love that he like slowly built her ability to love him back.
00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:04.559
Yeah.
00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:08.880
Um, more than just a brother-sister bond, you know?
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:09.360
Yeah.
00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:16.400
Like he he definitely is the reason that they're together because he definitely did push for it in a respectful way.
00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:21.360
In some cases, like he he pushed her boundaries.
00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:23.920
He 100% pushed her boundaries, yeah.
00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:28.320
But I think in some believe that if she said stop, he would have.
00:40:28.559 --> 00:40:29.920
I believe that as well.
00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:35.599
But I will say, like, I feel like it was a little bit of a manipulation.
00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:36.800
Oh, absolutely.
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:46.800
Because when they were kids, the only way that he got her to kiss him was by saying, I'm your brother, I can kiss you.
00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:47.679
It's allowed.
00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:49.519
It's allowed because I'm your brother.
00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:53.199
That part was a little bit, I will say, a little cringe for me.
00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:57.440
Cause I'm like, that no, that's not a thing.
00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:00.960
Having siblings, I know that's not it's not a thing.
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:02.800
It's not a thing with cousins either.
00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:03.519
Just saying.
00:41:03.760 --> 00:41:04.320
Just saying.
00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:12.159
Um, but like, yeah, I mean, it was definitely very manipulative.
00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:16.559
And I also don't love the way like he shuts her off, shuts her out.
00:41:17.039 --> 00:41:18.000
Oh, when he gets mad at him.
00:41:18.159 --> 00:41:21.519
When he gets mad, he won't talk to her for weeks at a time.
00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:22.719
I don't like that.
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:29.280
But at the same time, like her stopping him from using his hands or turning away so she can't see him.
00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:31.199
It is also cruel on her part, too.
00:41:31.679 --> 00:41:32.400
Incredibly cool.
00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:46.559
Because when you have a mute character and you're gonna just stop their only way of communicating, that is honestly one of the rudest things that you could ever do to somebody.
00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:54.239
Um and he it's not like he could communicate and he just chose not to.
00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:54.800
Yeah.
00:41:55.039 --> 00:41:56.480
Like he didn't know how to talk.
00:41:56.719 --> 00:42:01.039
No, like he shut his voice off a long time ago and didn't know how to pronounce the words.
00:42:01.119 --> 00:42:04.400
Yeah, like so he couldn't talk to her or communicate with her.
00:42:05.360 --> 00:42:06.480
So sorry.
00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:08.719
I stopped for a reason.
00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:20.960
In a way where like he had to use sign language to communicate with her, and the fact that she just kind of ignored him and could turn around, I just don't believe is fair.
00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:22.960
No, I don't think it's fair either.
00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:44.480
And like the fact that she wouldn't like, I'm not saying that if you suspect suspect someone of cheating on you that you should give them the time of day to listen, but at the same time, where you've known each other for most of your lives, maybe you should have given him the benefit of the doubt and hearing his side of the story before just automatically assuming you knew the truth.
00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:45.039
Yeah.
00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:49.760
Because he already told her the date with Anna was over before it even started.
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:55.519
Exactly, and that's why he wanted the lessons to start again with another girl.
00:42:55.679 --> 00:42:55.920
Yeah.
00:42:56.159 --> 00:43:09.360
But like you when he tells you it was their first date to begin with, and it was over before it started, and he ran away from that date, you're gonna believe Anna over Malachi.
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:10.239
Yeah.
00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:18.480
And you didn't even ask him, you just heard a portion of gossip that she admittedly couldn't hear all of.
00:43:18.639 --> 00:43:19.039
Yeah.
00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:20.800
Because it it was far away.
00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:21.679
Yeah.
00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:24.559
But you know, girls are girls.
00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:25.599
Girls are girls.
00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:27.679
I mean, boys do the same thing too, though.
00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:30.960
So it's it's just a miscommunication thing.
00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:41.440
And that's where communication really is important um with any relationship, friendship or boyfriend, girlfriend, or marriage, or whatever it is.
00:43:41.679 --> 00:43:47.760
You know, anytime you have some form of a relationship with anybody, communication, communication, communication.
00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:48.400
100%.
00:43:48.960 --> 00:43:54.639
Um, because you know what they say when you assume you make an ass out of you and me.
00:43:55.360 --> 00:43:59.440
Um but I also loved the cuddling.
00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:01.920
Which part?
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:02.639
I'm sorry.
00:44:02.960 --> 00:44:03.440
All of it.
00:44:03.519 --> 00:44:04.480
Like they couldn't.
00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:07.199
Oh, like growing up and stuff like that.
00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:07.760
Yeah.
00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:11.199
Like she would go to him when she had nightmares.
00:44:11.840 --> 00:44:15.199
And during storms, because she didn't and he didn't like the dark.
00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:16.639
And it was just so cute.
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:21.679
And then you get so used to sleeping beside someone else that you can't do it without each other.
00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:23.280
Like, I know how that feels.
00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:24.000
100%.
00:44:24.639 --> 00:44:29.039
Um, but it's just like that is that that was a really cute moment.
00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:29.920
I do.
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:32.079
I love those moments as well.
00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:37.760
Um do you think your view, and you're not lean over like that.
00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:44.400
Do you think your view of the book would be different if you listen to the audiobook versus reading it first?
00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:45.440
Oh 100%.
00:44:46.559 --> 00:45:18.000
Any anytime I read an audiobook first, which I don't normally do, I and then I go back and read the physical copy, whether it be on my Kindle or the paperback or hardcover, whatever, if I listen to it first, it changes my whole view on how the book is, because the punctuation, the you know, paragraphs, the whole communication of the story in general is so different from one version to another.
00:45:18.480 --> 00:45:22.159
I can only imagine how it was with this book where he was mute.
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:28.159
I can personally say I have not read a book with a mute or deaf character.
00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:29.519
Yeah, me neither.
00:45:29.840 --> 00:45:31.440
As an audiobook.
00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:39.360
Um, but yeah, no, I think I think it would have been very, very different.
00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:43.920
Um, it was because I did the audiobook first.
00:45:44.079 --> 00:45:48.079
I know it's a little bit controversial with this audiobook.
00:45:48.159 --> 00:46:06.480
We're not gonna get into that topic, but I will say this that you know hearing the tone of his voice when he had those brief moments of like psychological breaks is amazing.
00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:12.880
Like the tone in that voice, and just feeling all of the like you feel like you can feel all of those emotions.
00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:20.239
And when you're reading the physical copy of it, you're just imagining those emotions and the way that he would say it and everything like that.
00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:23.679
I think it brought an entirely different vibe to the book.
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:33.519
I really wish I read the physical copy before listening to the audio, but I will say the audio definitely gave me a different view on it, yeah.
00:46:33.679 --> 00:46:42.000
And like, what was it like with like the signing as an audiobook?
00:46:42.159 --> 00:46:53.679
Because like I know in the physical copy it's in italicized, so it's easy to really see like where he's communicating because he's not dialoguing, but he's speaking with his hands.
00:46:54.880 --> 00:47:11.599
So one thing I'm gonna say that I really liked about this audiobook um versus other audiobooks I've listened to is when it's the male's part to speak, the female voice actor isn't reading the parts in what she imagines the male voice to be.
00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:15.039
It's actually the male voice actor saying it.
00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:16.960
I love audiobooks that do that.
00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:19.440
I think all audiobooks that should do that.
00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:20.159
I do that.
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:20.719
My opinion.
00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:21.280
I do it.
00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:31.679
But because it sometimes changes when you're listening to the female voice actor try and voice a male's voice.
00:47:31.920 --> 00:47:36.159
It makes me slightly uncomfortable, especially in like spicy scenes.
00:47:36.400 --> 00:47:40.719
I hope it kind of makes me break my concentration when I'm listening to it.
00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:51.039
I mean, I agree with that because like there are some female audio book readers that cannot voice male voices.
00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:51.840
Yeah.
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:54.880
Especially if there's an accent involved.
00:47:55.440 --> 00:47:55.840
Yes.
00:47:57.599 --> 00:48:01.360
And vice versa for male voice actors trying to do the female voice.
00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:04.480
Because some of them are so deep that it's so hard to go high.
00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:05.599
Yeah.
00:48:05.760 --> 00:48:18.639
So with the like sign language parts of the book, I will say I read or I listen at the 1.5 speed, which I know people listen faster than that.
00:48:18.800 --> 00:48:23.119
That's just my preference, so that I can get all the details and not miss any.
00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:23.599
Yep.
00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:35.360
But there were pauses in between every single word he signed, and it made it just feel a little bit choppy.
00:48:36.400 --> 00:48:37.599
Um, yeah.
00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:45.199
Sometimes I would get confused and I thought he was actually speaking, but then I'm like, no, wait, he doesn't he doesn't talk.
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:47.199
He doesn't talk, he signs.
00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:49.599
And at least until the time skip, anyway.
00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:50.079
Yeah.
00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:58.320
So I will just say, like, I understand why they made it choppy like that, and why they did it in between every single one.
00:48:58.559 --> 00:49:04.480
Um, I did learn some sign language in high school, and I know that every single word is a different sign.
00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:14.159
Yeah, and I mean there are phrases and stuff like that that you can sign, and I think that's why they did it, but it just made it feel a little bit choppy in the audio version.
00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:22.559
Yeah, and I I I can see how that would make sense of like it being choppy, because it definitely wasn't choppy reading it, but then again, you're just reading it.
00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:29.280
Yeah, it's italicized, so it's not like punctuation uh after every single word because he's forming a sentence when he's signing.
00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:35.679
But knowing a little bit of sign language, like I could really picture like him doing the hand movements with her.
00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:41.199
And I I do have to say I loved that he would only communicate with her.
00:49:41.519 --> 00:49:42.239
A kicker.
00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:43.360
Unless he was pissed.
00:49:43.760 --> 00:49:44.000
Yeah.
00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:45.840
No, I do like that as well.
00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:48.239
I thought it was like a cute gesture, honestly.
00:49:48.880 --> 00:49:50.000
It was a really cute gesture.
00:49:50.159 --> 00:49:52.480
Well, that wipes out my question and your question.
00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:52.800
Yeah.
00:49:53.039 --> 00:49:54.320
So we're back to one of mine.
00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:56.800
Um, what is my next one?
00:49:58.320 --> 00:50:03.360
Do you think the psychological turmoil on the uh in this book added to the plot?
00:50:03.679 --> 00:50:04.320
Yes.
00:50:05.440 --> 00:50:06.400
I really do.
00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:13.199
I mean, the psychological turmoil was practically the whole book.
00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:34.320
Without it, there would not be those characters, like Olivia or Malachi, because they had so much psychological trauma separately that together it was just a crazy amount of trauma.
00:50:34.800 --> 00:50:53.519
And every time she thought about Malachi in a way that is perceived wrong for actual siblings, even though they're not actual siblings, and her saying, I'm sick, I'm sick, this is sick, like it really just added to the tension that built between them.
00:50:53.840 --> 00:51:06.800
And in a way that, like, when they're finally together and they're over the fact that they were raised together and not actual siblings, like it it made it that much sweeter when they were actually able to get past it.
00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:18.800
And I mean, like, honestly, her being able to like get past that ideal, I think is only okay in the sense because they're not actually related.
00:51:18.960 --> 00:51:19.599
Yes.
00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:26.400
But like you said, like the her comments of like, I'm sick, I'm sick, I'm sick, and he never thought that way.
00:51:26.639 --> 00:51:29.199
I think there was a mention of it one time, yeah.
00:51:29.519 --> 00:51:37.840
Um, but it it just it really played into their dynamic of friends to lovers, if you think about it.
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:38.480
Yeah.
00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:45.599
Um, which isn't a bad trope, but like this took it to a whole nother whole nother level where they were raised together.
00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:46.320
Yeah.
00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:50.000
Yeah, because what she was she was six, he was eight.
00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:52.320
Or she was seven, he was eight.
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:52.880
Yeah.
00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:54.719
When he came into the family.
00:51:56.320 --> 00:51:56.480
Yeah.
00:51:56.719 --> 00:52:04.320
No, it definitely, I think, played a big part in how this entire story came to be at the very end.
00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:09.519
There is no little stranger without the psychological torment and torture.
00:52:09.760 --> 00:52:10.320
Yeah.
00:52:10.559 --> 00:52:11.679
It there really isn't.
00:52:11.840 --> 00:52:13.440
It's in their own heads.
00:52:13.599 --> 00:52:14.239
Yeah.
00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:19.119
And even played out by the mom, too, and the dad.
00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:19.760
Mm-hmm.
00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:20.400
Mm-hmm.
00:52:21.199 --> 00:52:24.320
Um, I do like the addition of the little sister, though.
00:52:24.639 --> 00:52:27.199
She was so she was great.
00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:30.000
The fact that she's just so sassy.
00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:32.639
And screw this wedding.
00:52:32.719 --> 00:52:33.679
Who wants ice cream?
00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:35.519
I say we go get ice cream.
00:52:35.599 --> 00:52:38.400
Like, I loved that part, I will say.
00:52:38.719 --> 00:52:41.039
That is peak little sister behavior.
00:52:41.360 --> 00:52:41.679
Little sister.
00:52:41.760 --> 00:52:44.400
I don't have a little sister, but if I had one, I would want her to be like her.
00:52:44.559 --> 00:52:49.519
I do not have a little sister either, but being the little sister, peak little sister behavior.
00:52:49.679 --> 00:52:51.679
And she was like, I never like this guy anyway.
00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:53.760
Like, you go, you know.
00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:58.480
You, you know, and no judgment that Olivia was in love with Malachi.
00:52:59.039 --> 00:53:04.639
No, and and I mean she didn't get to see their dynamic because she was not in the house when they were together.
00:53:05.440 --> 00:53:10.639
But like, just the stories that she heard and like the vanilla stories she heard.
00:53:11.760 --> 00:53:14.239
And she's like, go for it.
00:53:14.639 --> 00:53:15.360
Go get him.
00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:17.039
No judgment on my part.
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Go get him, go be with him.
00:53:18.960 --> 00:53:20.880
And I was like rooting for that little sister.
00:53:20.960 --> 00:53:21.599
I loved that.
00:53:22.239 --> 00:53:26.960
I hope nothing bad happens to her in the second book, and I might be very upset if something does.
00:53:27.119 --> 00:53:30.400
That would probably be cryworthy if anything happens to that little sister.
00:53:30.639 --> 00:53:31.039
Yeah.
00:53:31.840 --> 00:53:36.639
Little siblings and pets are my big big sad.
00:53:36.880 --> 00:53:37.039
Yeah.
00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:37.840
Big sad.
00:53:38.639 --> 00:53:42.400
I won't, I will not watch movies if an animal dies.
00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:45.360
If I know that an animal's gonna die, I'm not gonna watch it.
00:53:46.079 --> 00:53:49.039
That's why I have a very hard time watching Marley and me.
00:53:49.440 --> 00:53:50.480
I've never watched it.
00:53:50.639 --> 00:53:51.840
There's a reason for that.
00:53:52.159 --> 00:53:58.079
I watched it before I knew that everything happened, anyways.
00:53:59.440 --> 00:54:04.159
Um I feel like we already answered that question.
00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:04.960
Which question?
00:54:05.119 --> 00:54:07.280
Is there anything we wish was touched on more?
00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:11.119
Yeah, because we we both really want them to touch more on their past.
00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:12.159
Yep.
00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:14.400
I think we did actually kind of go through that a little bit.
00:54:14.639 --> 00:54:15.039
Yeah.
00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:16.960
Um, so I'm gonna skip that one.
00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:22.239
Do we think he's too psycho or just the right amount of psycho?
00:54:23.039 --> 00:54:29.920
Um because there is such a thing as too psycho for me in a character.
00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:36.239
I I don't think he's too psycho, no.
00:54:36.559 --> 00:54:37.360
Neither do I.
00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:40.159
I think he's I think he's the right amount of psycho.
00:54:40.400 --> 00:54:44.559
I have read about more psychotic characters than Malachi.
00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:47.199
And I didn't even blink a fucking eye.
00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:48.000
Oh god, no.
00:54:48.159 --> 00:54:50.320
So, or bat and eye, is that the expression?
00:54:50.559 --> 00:54:51.039
Bat and I.
00:54:51.280 --> 00:54:52.639
I don't even bat an eye at those ones.
00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:52.960
Yeah.
00:54:53.119 --> 00:55:00.880
There, like I said, there has only been one one real book that has make made me like need to stop and take a break.
00:55:01.199 --> 00:55:03.039
This doesn't even come close to that.
00:55:03.280 --> 00:55:14.000
No, and I I don't know if it's because it's a shorter book that it doesn't get enough psycho moments, and it doesn't go into like the harsh detail.
00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:30.719
Yeah, I mean, it's very descriptive, yes, but honestly, I think he's the right amount of psycho, the right amount of protective, yeah, um, the right amount of possessive.
00:55:31.199 --> 00:55:33.440
I'm in a hundred percent agreement with you.
00:55:33.599 --> 00:55:34.239
Yeah.
00:55:34.559 --> 00:55:40.079
Yeah, like I I really don't think he was overly psycho in the book.
00:55:40.239 --> 00:55:46.239
Like, yeah, he had his moments, but I don't think they were super deep.
00:55:46.400 --> 00:55:48.880
I don't think they were like crossing a line.
00:55:49.119 --> 00:56:01.679
I think the most fucked up psychotic moment he had as a character was the going red and attacking his father while eating out his sister.
00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:06.480
So I think this gets into one of my conversation pieces as well.
00:56:06.719 --> 00:56:16.800
And it's at what exact moment, if any, did the relationship cross from dark but fictional into is this too far?
00:56:17.599 --> 00:56:34.079
I if there's one moment that might have been too far, and I'm not saying it was, because for me it wasn't, but for some people it might be, was the fact that like they were angry fucking, basically.
00:56:34.239 --> 00:56:56.800
I mean, like, not yet, but like orally, anyways, yeah, angry fucking at the top of the stairs when the dad comes home and he tries to pull them off, and then they just start going at each other and then fucking her over on top of his dying body, his dying body, yeah.
00:56:57.039 --> 00:57:02.960
I think if any, that would be the moment that it could go far.
00:57:03.440 --> 00:57:05.760
Yeah, it could have crossed a line again.
00:57:06.239 --> 00:57:12.800
In the fictional worlds that I read, that is not the farthest I've seen things go.
00:57:13.760 --> 00:57:16.159
Not the most fucked up thing I've seen.
00:57:17.760 --> 00:57:24.559
But I will say that if there were any moment for people that it would cross a line, it would be that one.
00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:25.360
Absolutely.
00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:31.840
Yeah, where it's like, this is dark, but it's fictional, but that could have definitely crossed the line for a lot of people.
00:57:32.079 --> 00:57:32.239
Yeah.
00:57:32.400 --> 00:57:34.159
And I could I could see why it would.
00:57:34.480 --> 00:57:47.280
But like going like the eight years into the future when he's released from prison after that ordeal and hearing his side of that story, I think kind of helps break it down a little bit.
00:57:47.599 --> 00:57:49.920
Yeah, it helps kind of like mellow the situation.
00:57:50.400 --> 00:57:53.840
And the fact that he that dad didn't die also helps.
00:57:54.159 --> 00:57:56.000
He's in a wheelchair for life.
00:57:56.239 --> 00:57:57.440
But he's not dead.
00:57:57.679 --> 00:58:06.239
He's not dead, and he's willing to try and forgive Malachi, which I think is a really big step, because honestly, like I don't think I could.
00:58:06.400 --> 00:58:07.519
I don't think I could.
00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:09.679
I couldn't forgive somebody who did that to me.
00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:10.320
No.
00:58:11.199 --> 00:58:16.079
But just like that, that might be like the one scene that goes too far.
00:58:16.400 --> 00:58:19.360
For yeah, for definitely for some people, I could see why it would go too far.
00:58:19.519 --> 00:58:19.840
Yep.
00:58:20.159 --> 00:58:21.039
Not for me though.
00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:23.920
I have no I've read worse.
00:58:26.719 --> 00:58:28.079
How many more questions do you have?
00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:28.639
One.
00:58:28.800 --> 00:58:30.320
Oh, do you want me to do some of mine?
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:31.280
Because I think I have three.
00:58:31.440 --> 00:58:31.760
Hold on.
00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:39.119
Yes, and I think I only have one left because we've kind of like gotten into the topics during other questions.
00:58:40.079 --> 00:58:41.519
Oh, the questions are no longer.
00:58:42.159 --> 00:58:45.199
Honestly, I think we've gone over a lot of my questions as well.
00:58:45.840 --> 00:58:48.800
Um because we went over that one.
00:58:50.079 --> 00:58:51.519
We went over that one.
00:58:55.440 --> 00:58:56.320
We did go over that.
00:58:56.559 --> 00:58:57.280
So I have one.
00:58:57.599 --> 00:58:57.920
Okay.
00:58:58.320 --> 00:58:59.119
So you're turned out.
00:58:59.440 --> 00:58:59.760
Okay.
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:02.000
Was this a good read?
00:59:02.480 --> 00:59:03.119
Yes.
00:59:03.519 --> 00:59:04.159
I agree.
00:59:04.320 --> 00:59:11.440
I I wouldn't say it was my favorite read because I definitely have other favorites, which we will discuss in later episodes.
00:59:12.320 --> 00:59:14.239
But it it was a really good read.
00:59:14.320 --> 00:59:18.880
I mean, I sat down and read it in six hours.
00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:19.519
Yeah.
00:59:19.920 --> 00:59:25.039
Which also came with distractions, so it's not like it was a straight six hours.
00:59:25.280 --> 00:59:33.199
Um, but I I sat down and I read it in a day, and that like I only do that with good books.
00:59:33.360 --> 00:59:39.760
If it's not a good book and it doesn't draw me in, like, I'm not gonna sit there and read it all day.
00:59:40.079 --> 00:59:49.119
But I do like how she set the book up if like the first half of the book was all Olivia's point of view and the different ages.
00:59:49.519 --> 01:00:00.159
Yeah, and like she her describing the different ages, and I liked that the second half of the book where Malachi actually starts to talk a little bit, was all in his point of view.
01:00:00.880 --> 01:00:13.360
And then you also got to see him like kind of backtrack and talk about his point of view from his earlier years without you know, kind of like fully flashbacking.
01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:18.159
Um, I think it was a really good way to set up the book and tie the story all together.
01:00:18.480 --> 01:00:19.119
Yeah.
01:00:19.519 --> 01:00:22.159
Yeah, I think it was a I really liked the read.
01:00:22.239 --> 01:00:30.480
Um, I would really love to just jump into the second book, um, but I'm gonna wait and buy it and read the paperback before I listen to it this time.
01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:44.079
Um I do the only like thing I have to say is I really wish it wasn't all about the brother-sister Diamond Amic the whole time because it did make me super uncomfortable.
01:00:44.400 --> 01:00:56.000
But you know, that's the book I signed up for, and I kind of knew that that's the relationship they had going into this book when we decided to read it.
01:00:56.559 --> 01:01:00.400
Um, but me personally, like it did make me super uncomfortable, yeah.
01:01:00.559 --> 01:01:05.199
And I kind of wish it didn't revolve uh solely uh around that dynamic.
01:01:05.440 --> 01:01:14.800
Which is why I'm looking forward to the next book because based on the description on the back of the book, it is not all about the brother-sister dynamic.
01:01:15.360 --> 01:01:16.000
Perfect.
01:01:16.159 --> 01:01:19.119
Um, so I'm super looking forward to that.
01:01:19.760 --> 01:01:22.960
Um I do really like this book.
01:01:23.119 --> 01:01:29.360
I I would love to know what else she has in other worlds and other other things.
01:01:31.360 --> 01:01:36.960
Because honestly, she's a good author just based on this one book alone.
01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:40.400
And I I would love to get some more from her.
01:01:41.039 --> 01:01:41.440
Absolutely.
01:01:41.519 --> 01:01:44.960
I'd love to explore her other books and her other series if she has them.
01:01:45.039 --> 01:01:45.599
I really don't know.
01:01:45.679 --> 01:01:46.960
I haven't looked at this author very much.
01:01:47.280 --> 01:01:47.840
Neither have I.
01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:50.719
Um, we kind of answered my last question as well with this.
01:01:50.800 --> 01:01:51.679
Your last question.
01:01:51.840 --> 01:01:53.199
That was all of our questions.
01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:56.480
Unless you have anything else to bring up from this book.
01:01:57.440 --> 01:01:58.880
Not that I can think of.
01:01:59.119 --> 01:02:00.559
Daddy, how about you?
01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:01.679
She's snoozing.
01:02:01.920 --> 01:02:02.719
Snoozing.
01:02:03.039 --> 01:02:09.360
Well, uh honestly, if you guys have any different opinions from anything we brought up, we would love to hear it.
01:02:09.519 --> 01:02:13.039
Please leave comments on our Instagram or on our Facebook page.
01:02:13.360 --> 01:02:14.639
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01:02:14.880 --> 01:02:17.679
We are not professional book reviewers.
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This is a hobby.
01:02:19.679 --> 01:02:20.000
Yep.
01:02:20.239 --> 01:02:21.840
A hobby because we love books.
01:02:23.360 --> 01:02:27.360
Um, please don't come at us for anything we said.
01:02:27.599 --> 01:02:30.400
Again, everybody is entitled to their own opinion.
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If you don't like it, you don't have to be involved in this community.
01:02:34.960 --> 01:02:37.039
Yeah, but we want to have a discussion with everybody.
01:02:37.119 --> 01:02:39.440
We want to know your opinions, your views on everything.
01:02:39.599 --> 01:02:42.480
You can go in and answer the questions that we talked about.
01:02:42.880 --> 01:02:48.159
Or if you have additional questions that you'd like to bring up as a topic, please put them in our comments.
01:02:48.480 --> 01:02:48.880
Absolutely.
01:02:49.280 --> 01:02:54.159
Let us know what you want to know or what you think our opinions are in different aspects of this book.
01:02:54.400 --> 01:02:59.840
And if you guys have any recommendations on other books, definitely, yeah, definitely let us know.
01:03:00.639 --> 01:03:12.880
Um, but yeah, no, we just want everybody to be happy reading books and be mentally comfortable reading books, which is why we do the trigger warnings.
01:03:13.119 --> 01:03:17.760
Um and yeah, like we we have our own opinions on this book.
01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:20.880
If you don't agree with these opinions, that's okay with you.
01:03:21.599 --> 01:03:24.960
Um, but we would love to know what your thoughts are on this book.
01:03:25.119 --> 01:03:28.320
We would love to know if you guys want to answer these questions.
01:03:28.480 --> 01:03:35.360
We can post our questions on our social medias as well so that you guys can answer them on your own.
01:03:35.599 --> 01:03:38.719
Um and let us know if you want to do a live as well.
01:03:38.880 --> 01:03:39.280
Oh, yeah.
01:03:39.519 --> 01:03:52.000
We are more than happy to do that with you guys so that we can answer your questions that you have regarding the books or anything that is on our TBRs and just talk about books and have a good time.
01:03:52.159 --> 01:03:53.679
We would love to do that with you guys.
01:03:53.920 --> 01:03:54.719
Absolutely.
01:03:55.039 --> 01:04:03.119
And next episode, we are going to be discussing Heartless Heathens by Santana Knox.
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I am so excited for this book.
01:04:05.119 --> 01:04:06.320
I have already personally read it.
01:04:06.480 --> 01:04:07.199
Heather hasn't been.
01:04:07.519 --> 01:04:08.159
I have not.
01:04:08.400 --> 01:04:12.159
Um, I read this over the summer while we were in Canada.
01:04:12.559 --> 01:04:16.320
So Oh, yeah, that's the one that you told me to read while we were up there.
01:04:16.480 --> 01:04:16.800
Yeah.
01:04:16.960 --> 01:04:22.480
We were up there for a funeral, and this is this is what I was reading the whole time we were in Canada.
01:04:22.719 --> 01:04:26.719
Um, so I am going to read off the trigger warnings.
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If you don't want to sit here and listen to this gigantic list, please just go look it up yourself before getting this book.
01:04:35.280 --> 01:04:42.159
Um, it does have heavy topics of religion, so if that's something that you're not interested in, just skip to the next book after that.
01:04:42.800 --> 01:04:49.360
So the content warnings, and this also has potential spoilers, and when we speak about this book, there will be spoilers.
01:04:49.920 --> 01:05:23.920
Um there's explicit language, death of parents, history of trauma, murder, gruesome deaths, suicidal thoughts, traumatic adoption, coerce, attempted suicide, feelings of panic from trauma, fictional occultism, Christianity, non-consensual drug use, anti-Christian rhetoric, uh horrific situations, political issues reminiscent of our current time, child abuse, neglect, fictional satanic worship, vomiting, disembowelment, dismembering, drowning, strangling, body mutilation, explosion, and bomb threat.
01:05:24.159 --> 01:05:26.880
Then into the sexual trigger warnings.
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There is group sex, sexual asphyxiation, non-consual, consensual sexual acts, dubious consent, physical assault, sexual assault, coercion, unprotected sex, light degradation, birth control, blood play, knife play, stretching, fisting, DVP DP, and incestuous situations.
01:05:49.119 --> 01:05:54.159
And the author also says, screw it, content warning for too many Tolkien references.
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So if you don't like Tolkien references, not the book for you.
01:05:58.639 --> 01:06:00.320
Just the Tolkien references, though.
01:06:00.639 --> 01:06:02.000
Just the Tolkien references.
01:06:02.719 --> 01:06:04.639
That is that is quite a list.
01:06:04.880 --> 01:06:05.920
It's a really big list.
01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:13.280
Like I said, if you did not make it through that whole list, because there is a lot, um, please look it up yourself before starting this book.
01:06:13.599 --> 01:06:14.159
Yes.
01:06:14.400 --> 01:06:24.800
Um, definitely don't want you guys to be a part of an episode that you're not comfortable with based on the contents of the discussion.
01:06:25.599 --> 01:06:33.760
Um please read what you're comfortable reading and skip the ones that you are not comfortable reading about or talking about after reading it.
01:06:33.920 --> 01:06:37.519
It's entirely up to you and your personal preference and what's going to make you feel safe.
01:06:37.840 --> 01:06:42.159
Yeah, we we've both definitely read books with very similar topics.
01:06:42.320 --> 01:06:54.320
And if you've if you notice um through as the episodes go on, most of the books that we read have very similar content and trigger warnings.
01:06:54.800 --> 01:06:57.599
Not always the same, but at least very similar.
01:06:57.840 --> 01:06:58.400
Very similar.
01:06:58.719 --> 01:07:03.119
Um, that is why we are a dark romance podcast.
01:07:03.360 --> 01:07:08.559
Yeah, we are here to discuss the dark romance side of things.
01:07:09.119 --> 01:07:13.199
Um but, anyways, that is the Sinful Shelf.
01:07:13.440 --> 01:07:16.079
Thank you so much for watching with us and listening.
01:07:16.239 --> 01:07:16.559
Yes.
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Thank you so much.
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