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Hello, this is preaching in Rock and Roll History Show.
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You're listening right now.
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Hello, everybody, Welcome back to the Rock and Roll History
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Show and Hudson River Radio. I'm Brian Horowitz. Tonight we're
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doing a crossover with the silver screen and we're gonna
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be talking about music about actors. But I'm gonna leave
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that to Mercedes to explain, as always allowed me to
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introduce the Crambos joining us here tonight, and then I
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am gonna sit back and turn it over. First and
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foremost from the Richter Observatory. He once had a job
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selling underwear.
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It was brief.
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Neil Richter is back from underwear?
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Is what I want to know under there some some
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how you doing everybody.
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From Paranormal yours. She says there are two types of
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people and she avoids them both. Gail nucom is.
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Here absolutely, Brian.
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You know mesop well as time goes on, I am
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with you one hundred percent. And the host of the
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Silver Screen. She went into a bar to play play
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bar trivia and the first question was can you name
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two things that hold water? And she said, well, damn Mercedes,
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catches were us. So I won, So you won. Congratulations.
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And last but not least, the host of Shaving Cream.
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She decided to take up fencing, but the neighbors asked
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her to put it back Barbara Bale to see you.
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Welcome backbar So. Tonight's topic is courtesy of Mercedes again
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and our crossover with silver Screen. So Mercedes, they saw you.
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Okay, I'm ready, I'm here. So this is a show
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that I have been wanting to do for a long time.
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I think it's a really fun topic and there are
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so many good choices. I wanted to do it for
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the silver Screen podcast, but then it dawned on me
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that there was a better way if I did it
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as a crossover show with the Crambones on the Rock
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and Roll History Show. It wouldn't just be my input,
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it would be all of us here, and that's.
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What we do best.
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Right tell me?
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Yeah?
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Absolutely.
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The topic songs about actors is a crossover in itself.
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It's musicians writing and singing about other art forms, acting
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like if an artist paints a musician or if an
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actor plays an artist in a film. Plus, since actors
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are out in the public eye, we're all familiar with
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them and sometimes we feel like we know them. And
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then you throw in celebrity magazines, YouTube, TikTok, Facebook, where
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we get to read about all their quote unquote personal lives.
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Of course, we don't really know what you know. I mean,
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we only know what they allow us to know for
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the most part part, unless they're involved in some kind
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of scandal. So why wouldn't musicians write lyrics about celebrities.
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It's a topic that we all know at least a
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little bit about. I am so excited to hear all
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the songs that y'all have brought, but first I want
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to talk a little bit about some of the songs
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that didn't get pecked. There is a song titled James
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Dean by the Eagles. Some of the lyrics are We'll
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talk about a low down bad refrigerator and which is which?
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If from what I can find, means like James Dean
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is super cool, wonderful.
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That was a long trip for a short ending.
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The rest.
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Some more of the lyrics are You're just too cool
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for school, sock hop, so to pop, basketball, and auto shop.
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The only thing that got you off was breaking all
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the rules and it goes on. Along came a spider
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and picked up a writer took him down the road
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to eternity. I had to double check that, but I
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assumed that spider was the kind of car he was in,
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and it was. There is another song, Whatever Happened to
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Corey Hame by The Thrills. Corey Haim was, of course,
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one of the Two Corries, and they even rate their
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own Wikipedia page. The Two Corries or American actor Corey
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Feldman and Canadian actor Corey Ham, who were often paired together.
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Feldman and Ham were a child actress during the nineteen
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eighties and they were nine films together. They both had
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substance abuse issues, So some lyrics from Whatever Happened to
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Corey Ham are I came to the city to build
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a mountain of envy and to marry Kennedy, which kind
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of refers to like the American dream. So let's stay
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out tonight. I just can't stop it. I don't know
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for sure what the lyrics are saying. They right there,
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but I just can't stop it. I am going to interpret.
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As drugs right sounds like it.
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So once site says the question whatever happened to Corey
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Haim really means whatever happened to the world I knew
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when I was young, when life was good. Robert De
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Niro's Waiting is a song that I almost picked. I
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was surprised that nobody picked that song. I didn't know
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the meaning of the song and was very surprised to
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read about it. It's a song by Banana Rama. So
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the song is about a girl who has been I
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don't know how I can say this date, how do
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we say it online now graped.
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Or essay.
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And imagines Robert de Niro as her boyfriend to cope
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with the trauma and to provide a sense of security
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and production. So that was a surprise to me. If
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anybody knows that song, that was not at all.
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I don't know that I remember the song, but I
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didn't know that's what it was about.
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Yeah, I've heard that song a million times. That had
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no idea. So you can see how all these lyrics
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almost sound like they're talking about people that they know,
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they're familiar with. My song is about Scarlett Johansson, and
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she's an actress, and the title is Starlet Johanson, which
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I didn't realize till about two hours ago. I was
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listening back to the song and I was like, oh,
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wait a second. The lyrics on the surface are about
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the singer's infatuation with the actress Scarlett Johansson, but underneath
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it's really about the fantasy of celebrity love. Whereas I
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said earlier, the lines are blurred between reality and imagination.
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Scarlett Johansson is this unattainable dream. She is a fantasy
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version of a human woman. Then they mentioned the characters
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that she's played. There is one line, you whisper at
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horses ears. I always found it exciting where they are
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referring to the horse Whisper, a movie from nineteen ninety eight.
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Another line, I'll sell my mom to be lost with you,
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lost in Tokyo or anywhere else, which is a reference
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to Lost in Translation, which was a two thousand and
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three film. Another line mentions a party she had in Disneyland.
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And I couldn't find anywhere that she had had a
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party at Disneyland, but it's something you might read in
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a celebrity magazine. So the singer is imagining her as
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someone so famous that she can have glamorous parties at
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places like that. If you can't even imagine, so, let's
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hear the sun.
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I know you're born in eighty four.
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How foolish you started at eight on Broadway?
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It's your star.
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You don't belive you know a gammy? I na chance
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card it? Marry me alious cut. You can't like it
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when I am, give me love it.
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You brought out the horse's ears I always find exciting.
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I'll start by spiders too. I never managed to blame you.
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I'll summer month ago ast with you.
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Lost in your cure anywhere else.
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I wish I'd been invited.
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What's your end?
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You don't believe you know a gammy?
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Were not chance.
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Card it to marry me Alius cut.
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You can't like it what I am? You will love it?
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You don't be again. I'm not jazz carriage with your dream.
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Oh you guy, you can't like you, but.
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I am you will love it.
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When I'm not just.
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For shadow little that's not sadent for thirty seconds for
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your shop.
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You don't be if you want.
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A jammy, I'm not chats cottach tweety me. Oh your god,
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you can't like you.
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What I am you in love it?
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You don't be love a jammy.
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I'm not chats cotta tweelmy. Oh your god, you can't
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like you? Wh I am you in love it?
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So I like that song.
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I had never heard that before. I was pretty excited
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to find that song.
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Catchy and creepy.
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Yeah, yeah, definitely stockery if you listen to the lyrics.
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The Teenagers were a French synth pop trio formed in
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two thousand and five. There are Spotify account reads like this.
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An irreverent, humorous bunch of scraggly neo new wave indie wockers.
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The Teenagers, Quentin Delephon, Dorian Dumont and Michael's Spin Spinner
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Sorry say that It's s z P I n e R.
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Formed in late two thousand and five. Initially, they formed
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as a joke. They created a MySpace profile for their
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non existent band, and used the comments they received as
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the inspiration for their first lyrics MySpace. I think that's amazing.
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Is my space still around? Somebody tried to revive it, right,
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I don't even know if that's still a thing.
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I don't know either.
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I think it's gone. I think The Mrock record label
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signed the band and released a couple of the band's
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singles in two thousand and seven, including Homecoming and Starlett Johansson.
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The XL label record company released Reality Check, the band's
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first album in early two thousand and eight. The Enemy,
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which is the New Music Express, praised the band's self
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aware This is in quotes, smart sentiments played out against
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a backdrop of lush, danceable, huggable pop.
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I love that.
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They have been said to sound like craftwork doing the
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soundtrack to a porno film. Yeah, I don't know.
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I don't know.
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The track Homecoming was elected fourth best Song of two
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thousand and seven by Enemy New Music Express. As far
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as I can tell, they have all released one album.
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They toured Europe and the US in two thousand and
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eight and in twenty twenty I'm Sorry. In twenty twenty,
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the band announced that they were no longer active and
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had not been for some time, and posted a link
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to a farewell song titled do You Remember. So they
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basically just fell off the face of the earth for
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a while and then decided to say goodbye to everybody.
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Okay, hey, when it's over, it's over.
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Hey, yues.
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So next up we got Neil and I'm super excited
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to hear about this son.
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Oh well, the thespian I've chosen for this show is
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Edie Sedgwick Edith Edie Sedgwick. She was born in nineteen
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forty three and was an American actress, model, and socialite.
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She's best known for being one of Andy Warhol's superstars
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and starred in several of his short film in the
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nineteen sixties. This led to her being dubbed an it
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girl and a youth quaker by Vogue magazine in nineteen
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sixty five. Eddie was one of eight children born to
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the aristocratic Sedgwick family of Massachusetts, but despite the family's
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wealth and high social status, Sedgwick's childhood was kind of troubled,
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raised along with her siblings on their abusive father's California
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ranch and being for the most part isolated from the
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rest of the outside world. All the Sedgwick children grew
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up to experience mental and emotional problems. Edie herself developed anorexia,
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and by her early teens had spent time in several
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private hospitals and institutions. Now, in nineteen sixty four, Sedgwick
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moved to New York City to pursue a modeling career,
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and it was the following year that she met avant
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garde artist and n filmmaker Andy Warhol at a party,
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and she began frequenting Warhol's art studio, known as the Factory,
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located in Midtown Manhattan. Sedgwick appeared briefly in a couple
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of Warhol films, and that generated enough interest for Warhol
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to cast her in several starring roles for several of
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his next films. But you know, let's say in all honesty,
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Warhol's films were for the most part only shown at
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underground film theaters and at screenings held at the Factory itself,
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and were not exactly commercially successful. But anyway, by this
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time Sedgwick had begun living in the infamous Chelsea Hotel
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in New York City, where she became close friends with
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Bob Dylan. Sedgwick developed a mad crush on Dylan and
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was convinced that she and Dylan would star in a
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mainstream movie together. Now this was news to Bob Dylan,
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who had already secretly married his girlfriend and never had
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any plans to star in a film with Sedgwick. Now,
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it's been speculated that the Dylan songs just Like a
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Woman and Like a Rolling Stone were both inspired by Sedgwick,
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and I believe the line like a rolling Stone the
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Napoleon in Rags was a reference to Andy Warhol himself,
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leading to a kind of a war between the Warhol
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camp and the Dylan camp. They did not get along,
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but Eddie was also associated with other Warhol proteges, The
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Velvet Underground, of course, led by Lou Reed, and their
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nineteen sixty seven song fem Fetal was also written about her. Now,
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Sedgwick left Warhol and the Factory scene in nineteen sixty
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six and returned to California in an attempt to forge
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a legitimate acting career. But when she returned, her parents
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had her committed to a psych word just like that
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but anyway. In nineteen sixty seven, Sedgwick began shooting a
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semi auto autobiographical underground film called Chow Manhattan, which brings
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us to our song for today, edy Chow Baby by
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the British rock band The Cult. The song appears on
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The Cult's fourth studio album called Sonic Temple and was
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released in nineteen eighty nine. The band, with the original
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name Southern Death Cult, shortened to Just Death Cult and
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finally simply to the Cult, was formed in nineteen eighty three,
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and since then the band has had various line ups,
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with the longest serving members being singer Ian Astbury and
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guitarist Billy Duffy, and they were also the band's two
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main songwriters. They're joined on this recording by Jamie Stewart
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on bass and Mike Curry on drums. So before we
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go any further, let's listen to the Cults ode to
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Edie Sedgwick Edie show.
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Baby, So do you worry you with her?
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A staring and world one of the staring please an
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angel later broken We.
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Oh bress your g oscar in your.
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Without than you call us.
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Your Parados shadows, Oh my pills you up, You're rencess shadows,
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chopping Holy Press joke chees, what's not up the.
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Shop?
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Sugar sweet, little sugar talkers, Parani has screamings, Peters.
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Holds little Queen.
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He eager and I drove it up doctor last.
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Choking. Oh my god, Jo.
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Stop, what are you doing?
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What s.
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Don't you uber? Shop? What are you doing?
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Shop?
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That's his.
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Jo.
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Now due to Edie's rapidly deteriorating health from drug use,
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and the filming of Chow Manhattan had to be suspended.
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She was hospitalized for joke abuse and mental issues in
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nineteen sixty eight, and then in nineteen sixty nine was
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placed in a psych word again after being arrested for
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drug charges. Now, while in the hospital, Sedgwick met her
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another patient, her future husband, Michael Post, and she was
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determined to finish Chow Manhattan and to have her story told.
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So Sedgwick abstained from drugs and alcohol and completed filming
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Chow Manhattan in early nineteen seventy one. She married Post
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in July of that year. Now, four months later, there,
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Sedgwick went to a fashion show and attended an after
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party where she had been drinking. So she phoned up
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her husband to come pick her up, and when they
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got home post gave Sedgwick medication that she'd been prescribed
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to had been prescribed by a doctor. But I think
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you can see where this is going, because the following
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morning he woke up and he found Edie Sedgwick dead.
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The coroner ruled her death as an undetermined accidental suicide
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due to acute barbituate and ethanol intoxication. Edie Sedgwick was
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twenty eight years old.
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Oh man.
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The film Chow Manhattan was released in February of nineteen
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seventy two, posthumously obviously. As for the cult, they have
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continued to play on and off over the years and
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toured as recently as last summer, I believe. But meanwhile,
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there have been countless other songs written by all sorts
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of other artists over the years that were either inspired
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by or directly mentioned Edie Sedgwick, and that continues to
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keep her pop culture legacy alive.
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Chow Baby, good one, Neil, I have to tell you,
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I was looking at pictures of her online while you
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while the song was playing.
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Well, I've found it interesting that, I mean, in the
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mid six these like that, I was like ten years old, Okay,
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So I can't believe that the members of the cult
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that wrote the song were much either older or yeah,
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so it's this interesting they're writing a song about someone
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that was They probably had no you know, conception of
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that even you know, at that age, I didn't know
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any of that stuff. Wasn't until you know later that,
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you know, just reading books and whatever. And apparently I
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don't remember the name of it. There is a book,
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it's like an oral history about Edie Sedgwick, which is
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like compiled of interviews from different people in her life
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and in this you know, her sphere of you know,
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everywhere she'd been. There's no like actual text, if I remember.
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It's the interviews and one takes over for the other
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one and it tells the story through other people's words,
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and which is an interesting way to write a book anyway,
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a biography. So check that out if you get a chance.
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I'd almost forgotten about that. I remember, you know, seeing
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it and reading parts of it while back in somewhere
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in the mid eighties somewhere. But anyway, that's Edie Sedgework.
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Very cool.
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Oh yeah, all right, we're gonna have to take a break.
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We are going to be back with more cool songs,
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so don't go anywhere.
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Hudson River Radio. Your dog likes us.
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This concludes the first part of this cassette.
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To This is Hudson River Radio dot Com.
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Ah, and we're back with what are we doing today?
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We're doing a rock and roll history show.
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Yeah, it's crossover, it's earth. You're in the right spot.
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We're confusing.
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And we are talking to bad songs about actors and
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I'm having a good time.
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Yeah.
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So next up we have Barbara all right.
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Well, I wanted to give the deats about the singer
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I chose before I mentioned the song, and the song
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is by Bonnie Joe Mason and she was born Cheryl
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Sarchizion on May twenty, nineteen forty six, in El Central California.
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Her parents split up when she was ten months old,
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and she was placed in an orphanage where her mother
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was allowed to visit but was only allowed to see
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her child through a window, and her mother later remarried
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and divorced several times, resulting in the family moving around
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the US frequently. Mason was fascinated by film stars, especially
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Audrey Hepburn, Marlene Dietrich, Betty Davis and Katherine Hepburn, and
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she had dreamed of fame, but thought herself too inadequate
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and unattractive. Nevertheless, her goal was to become famous, and
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her preoccupation with this goal was often distracting, especially at school,
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where she later discovered she had dyslexia. During school lunches
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and other breaks, she would often entertain her classmates by
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singing to them. But she dropped out of school at sixteen,
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took acting lessons, and supported herself by dancing in nightclubs
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along Hollywood's sunset.
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You know, because what could go wrong for a sixteen
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year old to do that? It worked for me, thanks
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for the visual.
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She would introduce herself to performers, managers, and agents, anyone
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she thought might help give her a break. So, while
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still sixteen, she ended up meeting a twenty seven year
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old gentleman named Salvator Bono who had been working for
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Phil Spector, and she agreed to work as Salvator's housekeeper.
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He introduced her to Spector, who went on to use
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her as a backup singer for recordings such as You've
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Lost That Loving Feeling by the Righteous Brothers and the Runettes,
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Be My Baby, Spector produced her first single, Ringo I.
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Love You in nineteen sixty four. So let's let's listen.
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To it now.
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I go.
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Yeah in this mom, I want to be please let
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me hold you No, they say yeah, I'll never get
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to moon time. Let's let me please, let me hold
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you up.
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I want to things, nay, I want to let you
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know comes podcast. I wanted anything in this farm. I
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wanna beyond.
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This gop radio.
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I want to worry Amy, I want to be one.
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Okay. I thought that song was cool. I don't know
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about you love it. Yeah, I've never heard that so innocent.
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I was actually very surprised to come across this song.
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I had never heard of it before.
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I love how they she incorporated or whoever incorporated the
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you know the the Beatles song.
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Been homage but not enough to get sued, right, But
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then Phil Spector would wind up doing let it Be.
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He wound up working with the Beatles later on and
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totally screwing up that album.
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Let's let's not go there.
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We could do a whole show about that. So at
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the time, many radio programmers rejected the song due to
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the deep contralto vocals, assuming it was sung by a
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male homosexual singing a love song to Ringo.
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Oh gosh.
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Specter had her use the name Bonnie Joe Mason because
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he wanted American sounding names. By this time, Cheryl Sarkisian
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had taken the last name of her stepfather and was
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known as Cheryl Lapierre. Today, she is known simply as cher.
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And both share. Wow. Yeah, I was really really surprised.
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I had no clue about this. I totally love.
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Ringo and I totally loved Share, and this just mixed
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two beautiful things that I love together, and that's why
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I totally loved it.
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I'm assuming she shortened her name because you keep changing
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last names like that, you got to reorder your checks
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and get them all over pain. So just one syllable yep.
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So so that's about it. That's all I got.
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Both Sharon Ringo are mostly known for their vocal performances,
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but both have had significant acting careers. And if you
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don't believe me.
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Go on IMDb snap out of it.
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Yep, exactly.
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Yeah.
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Moonstruck was awesome and has anybody ever seen any of Ringo's.
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Yeah, well I saw a part of that Thomas Okay, yeah.
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Bit aside from a hard Day's Night and help obviously
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the one and and the cameo that they the whole
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band did in Yellow Submarine, which had nothing to do
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with them really whatsoever. They were cartoons with other people using,
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you know, doing their voices, although Ringos said that the
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only complaint he had that he said, they made his
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nose too small. And let's and let's not forget Caveman, Caveman,
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Let's forget Caveman.
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Actually, yeah, that's the one.
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I was trying to remember the name of with Barbara Bah.
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Yeah. But there there was another film that I saw,
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and more recently than it came out, I think nineteen
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seventy three, because I just looked it up during you know,
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while we were listening to.
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The song, we had a discussion about this. Neil.
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Yes, it's called That'll Be the Day, and it was
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it was set in like you know, the early you know,
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almost you know, pre British invasion England, you know, like
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with Teddy Boys and mods and rockers and all that,
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and Ringo plays you know a well obviously it was
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a star by then, you know, pun intended, but he doesn't.
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It's not a it's not a major role. It's like
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a secondary or supporting role. I guess that's what I'm
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looking for.
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He was also in a film with Harry Nilsen that
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I don't know if we even got it over here.
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It didn't get much popularity. Son of Dracula, Oh yeah, yeah, I.
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Went along with the Son of Dracula album.
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Yeah, and I actually I saw that you know again
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much later on on you know, rental video and whatever.
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But yeah, yeah, I forgot about that. And it has
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a whole bunch of other you know, British rock stars
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in it, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, Keith Moon for one.
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But what was the other one? The other one? You
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and I were talking about The Magic Christian.
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Oh yeah, The Magic Christian, which is an awesome movie
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that nobody's ever heard of seen.
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Peter Sellers.
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Peter Sellers in it.
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Yeah, and it's and Gail you would like it because
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an actor is in it.
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Yeah, that's where the song, yes, the song you know
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things come full Circle is come and Get It. That's
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what that song you know by.
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00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:37.679
Yeah, that was Lena McCartney.
491
00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:41.400
Yeah, that was there, I imagine a first hit, but
492
00:36:41.519 --> 00:36:45.199
it was the theme song from that movie. So yeah,
493
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:49.360
it was basically the premise was that everyone has their
494
00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:55.079
price and and Peter Sellers plays like a you know,
495
00:36:55.320 --> 00:36:58.400
ultra rich guy, and Ringo is his protege.
496
00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:02.079
He like a dog because like the one of one
497
00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:04.880
of the first scenes of the movie is Peter Sellers
498
00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:07.559
is like signing a paper that you assume is like
499
00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:09.599
an adoption paper kind of type thing.
500
00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:13.920
Right. Yeah, he was like his his youthful ward you know, yeah,
501
00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:21.400
sort of like Batman in alternate Universe. And yeah, it's
502
00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:23.960
it's full of surprises, a lot of cameos.
503
00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:28.199
It's very irreverent and offbeat humor as you would expect.
504
00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:31.199
And the final scene is just not to be believed.
505
00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:32.199
But it oh god.
506
00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:35.239
Yeah, and I am not going to spoil the more.
507
00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:36.440
I'm not going to spoil that.
508
00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:42.440
But but yeah, if you it's worth the price of admission.
509
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:45.360
I think it's on YouTube. You could just watch it whenever.
510
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:49.199
True. Yeah, yeah, a.
511
00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:50.079
Lot of stuff.
512
00:37:50.280 --> 00:37:52.559
This is crazy. I'm just looking up the list of
513
00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:54.639
stuff that he was in. It's pretty wild.
514
00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:55.199
Yep.
515
00:37:55.639 --> 00:38:01.000
Well, let's not forget his directorial debut in Magical Mystery
516
00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:05.280
Tour or again. Yeah, let's forget that one too. Yeah,
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00:38:05.320 --> 00:38:07.920
as far as Beatle Films, go you and as far
518
00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:11.559
as directing go Ringo, should you know he was a
519
00:38:11.559 --> 00:38:12.679
great drummer, Okay.
520
00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:14.760
I was just gonna say, I was gonna say, oh,
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00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:15.840
he was a decent drummer.
522
00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:16.920
Yeah, yeah.
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00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:19.599
John Lennon would say or had said, yeah, he wasn't
524
00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:21.480
even the best drummer and the Beatles, let alone the
525
00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:24.880
best drummer ever. So something along that line, which was
526
00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:29.559
typical Lenin and probably true too, because I believe Paul
527
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:33.960
McCartney was he was he was able to play drums
528
00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:38.960
pretty handily to mhmm. Yeah, I'd forgotten about The Magic Christian.
529
00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:40.239
That is a really good movie.
530
00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:46.920
Not but yeah, that's that's I was looking up something
531
00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:49.440
to play for this topic and I came across this
532
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:55.079
and I went, what I share sang a song about Ringo?
533
00:38:55.320 --> 00:39:00.320
What you're mentioning? You had mentioned her her, you know,
534
00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:04.000
the the deepness of her voice. I always said that,
535
00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:07.960
you know Sonny and Cher who was actually Salvador Bono
536
00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:12.760
as you mentioned, and that's obviously Sonny. Yeah, Sonny was
537
00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:16.679
the higher voice, you know, and she had the lower voice.
538
00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:19.360
Alto It's like you know.
539
00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:23.039
And they also released a record. It was a cover
540
00:39:23.199 --> 00:39:24.960
of Love Is strange. I don't know if it was
541
00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:27.000
a cover. I don't know who did it first, but
542
00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:33.800
they released it under the name of Caesar and Cleopatra. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
543
00:39:33.880 --> 00:39:36.400
I think it was Ian and Sylvia. I think was
544
00:39:36.519 --> 00:39:40.199
the you know the people had you know, love Love
545
00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:44.559
is strange. Yeah, but that was that was also again
546
00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:49.119
using aliases for whatever reason. And I think it was
547
00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:54.079
pre you know, Sonny and Cher, you know, having hits.
548
00:39:55.440 --> 00:40:01.000
They were household names. Definitely very cool.
549
00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:03.639
Yeah, all right, thanks Barbara.
550
00:40:03.639 --> 00:40:04.360
I loved that one.
551
00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:08.920
Than next up we have Gail.
552
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:10.119
What do you got for us?
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00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:11.280
Okay?
554
00:40:11.519 --> 00:40:15.480
Well, as usual, I was looking for something kind of
555
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:25.400
unusual and just the type Uma Thurman, and it's by
556
00:40:26.199 --> 00:40:31.519
American rock band fallout Boy. The song Uma Thurman was
557
00:40:31.639 --> 00:40:38.400
released digitally in January of twenty fifteen. And what I
558
00:40:38.639 --> 00:40:42.239
found really interesting and a little bit addictive about this
559
00:40:42.519 --> 00:40:47.239
is this song prominently features sampled theme music from the
560
00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:52.519
TV series The Monsters. Yeah, it was on from sixty
561
00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:57.480
four to sixty six, and the lyrics celebrate the actress
562
00:40:57.639 --> 00:41:00.760
Uma Thurman, who is famous for films such as Pulp
563
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:02.679
Fiction and Kill Bill.
564
00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:06.360
Fall out Boy itself.
565
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:10.840
Formed in will Mesh, Illinois, which is a suburb of
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00:41:11.000 --> 00:41:14.800
Chicago in two thousand and one. The band consists of
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00:41:15.159 --> 00:41:19.519
lead vocalist and rhythm guitarist Patrick Stump There's a Name
568
00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:25.440
for You, bassist Pete Wentz, lead guitarist Joe Troman, and
569
00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:33.360
drummer Andy Hurley. And they've been active since two thousand
570
00:41:33.360 --> 00:41:37.639
and one, and apparently they're still going. And the song
571
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:42.519
itself was the fifth digital track released in a build
572
00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:45.960
up to the band's twenty fifteen album, which was called
573
00:41:46.519 --> 00:41:50.719
American Beauty slash American Psycho, which sounds like kind of
574
00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:56.280
an interesting combination if you ask me. It was released
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00:41:56.320 --> 00:42:02.320
to modern rock radio as the album's third second in
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00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:07.480
the US in early February. On March thirty first, twenty fifteen,
577
00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:11.639
Uma Thurman was released as the album's second US Top
578
00:42:11.800 --> 00:42:22.159
forty single. Now they actually asked permission from Uma Thurman
579
00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:31.119
to use her name, and uh, she said she was
580
00:42:31.239 --> 00:42:36.159
so flattered. She said, I'm so flattered. It's so nice.
581
00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:40.920
It's incredibly chivalrous. No one ever asks permission for anything anymore,
582
00:42:41.480 --> 00:42:47.639
so you don't even expect it. And the title Uma
583
00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:52.639
Thurman is a reference to American actress Uma Thurman's character
584
00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:58.719
Mia Wallace dancing with John Travolta's character Vincent Vega in
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00:42:59.199 --> 00:43:06.679
a scene and help fiction the film. So let's have
586
00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:11.760
a listen, because it keeps mentioning she wants to dance
587
00:43:11.880 --> 00:43:15.320
like Uma Thurman, so that that's where that connection comes.
588
00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:16.760
So let's have a listen.
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00:43:19.119 --> 00:43:22.880
Dance. I can book a miracle book, a miracle.
590
00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:26.760
You like, get nothing, but.
591
00:43:43.199 --> 00:43:49.679
She wantsn't dance back. Isn't very made like? Can she
592
00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:50.920
wantn't dance back?
593
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:56.519
And I can't get you out of my head Sash.
594
00:43:56.599 --> 00:44:03.320
Stash the daughter of sex and see take way down
595
00:44:03.440 --> 00:44:08.079
to the smallest bee Boodshot bookshop and Potato your maid.
596
00:44:10.639 --> 00:44:16.480
Second book, A miracle book, a miracle you look at
597
00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:38.320
She wasn't dance spike fools and very maids.
598
00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:42.599
He like an confairs, she was a dance stick fool
599
00:44:42.760 --> 00:44:44.599
and sun And I can't.
600
00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:45.840
Get you out of my head.
601
00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:48.199
Lord Lord.
602
00:44:48.519 --> 00:44:52.159
The blood on the Lamb's worth too Relias not here
603
00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:56.000
of them and slept in last night, close into my
604
00:44:56.360 --> 00:44:58.440
rose streams but not quite.
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00:44:58.320 --> 00:44:59.559
What they say.
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00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:01.920
Mount Dance.
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00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:09.039
I can book a miracle book, a miracle get nothing,
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00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:27.159
find away.
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00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:51.440
I guess down jump city, She'll find a guess Jim City, she.
610
00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:57.840
Wasn't dance back as every baby meating, I can assass she.
611
00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:01.840
Wantn't dance back o us I can't get so out
612
00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:13.440
of my hair, kept nothing.
613
00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:25.920
Nothing.
614
00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:46.119
So I think that's kind of cute.
615
00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:50.480
That was I like that energy. I always liked that song.
616
00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:53.400
Yeah, all of a sudden, there comes to monsters out
617
00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:54.880
of nowhere. I said, that's wild.
618
00:46:55.199 --> 00:46:59.239
Well, when I was researching this, I found out that
619
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:03.679
bassist and lyricist Pete Wentz stated.
620
00:47:04.800 --> 00:47:07.159
This was a fun song to write.
621
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:09.920
Originally when we came up with the idea and there
622
00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:12.920
was this sample in it, which is a sample from
623
00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:17.719
the Monster's TV show, people kept saying, oh, cool, like
624
00:47:17.840 --> 00:47:21.400
Quentin Tarantino cool when they heard it. Now, I don't
625
00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:27.159
understand a connection between Quentin Tarantino in the months.
626
00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:33.239
Maybe because well, in the movie Uma Thurman is doing
627
00:47:33.519 --> 00:47:39.480
the batusi, which was Batman. So yeah, to use the
628
00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:43.280
monsters instead of Batman, I mean that would have Batman
629
00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:44.440
would have been the more appropriate.
630
00:47:44.599 --> 00:47:46.960
Yeah, yeah, you would think, but I don't know.
631
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:53.719
Recently, Rob Zombie remade a film about the monsters and
632
00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:54.760
I didn't see it.
633
00:47:54.960 --> 00:47:59.880
And that's fun. I mean, you know, was was it,
634
00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:03.239
you know, really reminiscent of us.
635
00:48:03.360 --> 00:48:06.679
Then again, younger generation may not know the Monsters and
636
00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:08.960
it does have a similar style to the Batman theme.
637
00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:12.719
Maybe they just got that. Yeah it's got that go
638
00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:14.159
go music kind.
639
00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:16.119
Of a little bit surfy kind of sound.
640
00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:20.679
Yeah, yeah, that there could be. Yeah, that just you know,
641
00:48:21.239 --> 00:48:25.719
confusion because again not being around at the time like
642
00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:31.320
in the sixties when I was again, that was prime
643
00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:34.760
time for me. Those both those shows Monsters and oh
644
00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:38.119
total Batman, not to mention the Adams Family, Yeah, and
645
00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:40.760
there for good measure and like a cool theme song.
646
00:48:41.280 --> 00:48:45.079
But yeah, that that was that was That was like
647
00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:46.519
my demographic, you know.
648
00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:49.400
And the thing now is when I was a kid,
649
00:48:49.519 --> 00:48:52.039
we only had a black and white TV. Yeah, and
650
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:54.960
now when I watched Batman reruns, I watched them because
651
00:48:55.400 --> 00:48:59.599
oh my god, those sixties clothing and uh, I sit
652
00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:02.519
there and I drool and my husband looks at me
653
00:49:02.639 --> 00:49:03.320
like you're crazy.
654
00:49:03.559 --> 00:49:07.599
Well, but all those all those colors were like they
655
00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:09.880
were so bright. It was like it was like a
656
00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:12.679
comic book like that was you know, to be that bright.
657
00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:13.360
That's like.
658
00:49:14.840 --> 00:49:16.159
The pow whams, you know.
659
00:49:16.239 --> 00:49:19.199
And orange and pink dresses, those girls.
660
00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:20.239
That's like my favorite.
661
00:49:20.679 --> 00:49:24.679
Yeah, domination are just like when Dark Shadows reruns when
662
00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:26.760
they went over to color.
663
00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:29.320
Oh my gosh, those sixties fashions.
664
00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:30.280
Mm hmm.
665
00:49:31.039 --> 00:49:34.960
Carolyn Stoddard wearing you know, the white go go boots
666
00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:35.639
all the time.
667
00:49:36.280 --> 00:49:40.559
I liked uh Maggie's pants, like the coulottes she had,
668
00:49:40.639 --> 00:49:42.679
like Thosette.
669
00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:43.480
Pants that were all different colors.
670
00:49:43.800 --> 00:49:44.000
Right.
671
00:49:44.280 --> 00:49:49.079
Yeah, So Pete Wentz continues, you know, when he was
672
00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:54.559
talking about the the theme and the Tarantino, he said,
673
00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:57.159
we decided, why don't we create a world around that.
674
00:49:58.039 --> 00:50:01.440
To me, Uma Thurman and Winona, they were these women
675
00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:04.920
in pop culture who were quirky, but that made me
676
00:50:05.039 --> 00:50:09.599
only crush on them harder, and rather going with the
677
00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:13.079
traditional Uma themon roll, we thought a lot about kill
678
00:50:13.159 --> 00:50:16.360
Bill and who her character was in that and this
679
00:50:16.559 --> 00:50:20.199
kind of resilience and this violence. But there's something that's
680
00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:24.400
authentic about it, like a woman taking revenge or being empowered.
681
00:50:25.119 --> 00:50:28.159
So that's what the chorus of the song's about. In
682
00:50:28.280 --> 00:50:31.639
other words, with bursts of verbiage like I can move mountains,
683
00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:34.880
I can work a miracle, and the verses are what
684
00:50:35.119 --> 00:50:38.400
you would do to try and capture this woman's affection.
685
00:50:39.679 --> 00:50:41.159
So that's my choice.
686
00:50:41.760 --> 00:50:42.440
Good choice.
687
00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:43.159
Thank you.
688
00:50:43.639 --> 00:50:49.440
Can I just say that I just googled Tarantino and
689
00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:50.159
the Monsters.
690
00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:55.000
That's really curious, and this is what it says.
691
00:50:55.679 --> 00:50:59.079
There is no known direct connection between Quentin Tarantino and
692
00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:02.239
the Monsters. However, there are a couple of points of
693
00:51:02.360 --> 00:51:10.639
confusion or tangential tangent yeah references. Rob Zombie directed a
694
00:51:10.719 --> 00:51:15.199
two thousand and twenty twenty two Monsters reboot, and Quentin
695
00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:19.840
Tarantino was incorrectly mentioned in an online comment about the
696
00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:27.519
original show's longevity. Additionally, there is a song by Additionally,
697
00:51:27.639 --> 00:51:31.239
there is a song by the Uma Thurman which uses
698
00:51:31.559 --> 00:51:36.119
a sample of the Munsters theme and mentioned Tarantino.
699
00:51:38.960 --> 00:51:41.800
Kind of like what was It's like the Mandela effect
700
00:51:41.960 --> 00:51:42.920
something that happen.
701
00:51:42.960 --> 00:51:45.639
Oh yeah, the way people people remember it wrong?
702
00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:49.960
Yeah, okay, thank you.
703
00:51:50.840 --> 00:51:51.400
Interesting.
704
00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:54.800
Yeah, Well, just to go back on what I was
705
00:51:54.800 --> 00:51:57.079
saying a little bit early about how they're saying, you know,
706
00:51:57.239 --> 00:52:00.920
like Uma Thurman and Wenona Rye, where they're like, you know,
707
00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:03.840
pretty much like their boyhood crushes, I go back with,
708
00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:09.000
you know, Lily Munster and Mortitia Adams, those are that's
709
00:52:09.079 --> 00:52:10.480
what made this little.
710
00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:13.280
Yeah, I'm not surprised.
711
00:52:13.599 --> 00:52:16.480
Yeah, and we still do to this day. That's the
712
00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:17.159
crazy part.
713
00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:20.519
As a little girl, those were the women I wanted
714
00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:20.800
to be.
715
00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:26.480
Yeah, I thought they were so beautiful. Yeah, it's a
716
00:52:26.599 --> 00:52:29.039
little girl. I wanted to look like them.
717
00:52:29.239 --> 00:52:30.559
I really do, me too.
718
00:52:31.639 --> 00:52:34.199
I wanted to walk around with those clippers clipping off
719
00:52:34.280 --> 00:52:34.719
the rose.
720
00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:38.360
Yeah, for sure.
721
00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:39.159
I know.
722
00:52:40.119 --> 00:52:43.960
One of my coworkers has this philodendron that's growing so
723
00:52:44.199 --> 00:52:47.440
much it's like growing up in the office all over
724
00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:50.760
the one wall where she is and climbing up the window.
725
00:52:51.280 --> 00:52:54.039
And I told her she should name it Cleopatra because
726
00:52:54.079 --> 00:52:58.559
it wasn't that Martitia Adams's plant that you reach out
727
00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:00.719
and touch someone as.
728
00:53:03.920 --> 00:53:04.039
Well.
729
00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:08.039
Thanks Gale, that was great you. We're gonna take another
730
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break real quick and we'll be right back with more
731
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cool songs about cool actors.
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Lutgen Riverradio dot com Hudson River Radio dot com.
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We're back.
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We're back with more rock and roll history show. See
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I know what show I'm on now. We're talking about
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songs about actors and we are. We got one more.
737
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We're up to Brian one more. I got wait, I
738
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got a double for you though, Okay, all right, So
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I went old school and way more innocent than some
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of you did. We're gonna be talking about a track
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00:53:55.360 --> 00:53:59.559
off of Elton John's seventh studio album, Goodbye Yellow Brick Road,
742
00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:02.639
which came out in nineteen seventy three. Elton is now
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00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:05.440
seventy eight, mostly retired, but he still pops up and
744
00:54:05.679 --> 00:54:09.880
he's active. He put out thirty two studio albums over
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00:54:09.960 --> 00:54:13.039
his career, not counting live stuff, which is just amazing.
746
00:54:13.519 --> 00:54:16.960
He sold over three hundred million albums. And if you
747
00:54:17.000 --> 00:54:19.039
don't know who Elton John is by now, you're listening
748
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to the wrong sholf.
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00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:20.559
So what can I say?
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00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:24.119
So we're not even going to go into that. The
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00:54:24.239 --> 00:54:27.000
album Goodbye Yellow Brick Road includes the hits Candle in
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00:54:27.079 --> 00:54:30.400
the Wind, which, depending on which generation you're from, is
753
00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:33.079
either about Marilyn Monroe or Princess Diana. But it's about
754
00:54:33.119 --> 00:54:35.840
Marilyn Monroe, so get over it, Benny and the Jets,
755
00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:38.239
Saturday Nights all Right for Fighting, and the title track
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00:54:38.280 --> 00:54:41.480
good By Yellow Brick Road. Bernie Taupin wrote the lyrics
757
00:54:41.559 --> 00:54:44.280
for the entire album in less than three weeks, and
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00:54:44.400 --> 00:54:47.719
then Elton composed the melody and most of the music
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00:54:47.800 --> 00:54:48.840
in about three days.
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00:54:49.360 --> 00:54:50.599
Can you even imagine?
761
00:54:51.039 --> 00:54:54.960
No, that is insane, It's crazy. I'd never heard that
762
00:54:55.119 --> 00:54:55.719
fact before.
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00:54:56.000 --> 00:54:58.840
I had to replace the truck bed cover in my
764
00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:01.119
pickup and it took me three days to pick which
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one I was going to order in the time that
766
00:55:04.760 --> 00:55:08.559
Eldon wrote the music for a complete album. So no,
767
00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:11.480
I can't imagine doing that. But that's why Elton's Elton.
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00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:16.559
Bernie Taupin is a big fan of American Western movies
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and TV shows. His family nicknamed him the Brown Dirt Cowboy,
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00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:25.559
which is a weird nickname, but okay, but they used that.
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00:55:25.960 --> 00:55:27.360
I'm not going to go there, Yeah.
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Don't now.
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00:55:28.360 --> 00:55:32.239
I understand the other album title, which I never understood.
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Captain Fantastic and the Brown Dirt Cowboy. Yup, that's where
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00:55:35.199 --> 00:55:37.480
they got that from. That was Bernie's nickname as a kid.
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00:55:37.599 --> 00:55:41.000
You are correct, speaking of cowboys. One of the tracks
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00:55:41.119 --> 00:55:43.719
on Goodbye Yellow Brick Road is about a guy who
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00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:46.840
was known as the King of Cowboys, someone who was
779
00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:52.360
never actually a cowboy, Roy Rogers. Depending on your generation,
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00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:54.239
you may or may not know who I'm talking about.
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00:55:55.199 --> 00:55:59.360
Roy Rogers was born Leonard Franklin sly Back in nineteen
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eleven in Cincinnati, Ohio. The tenement apartment where he lived
783
00:56:04.039 --> 00:56:07.239
would later be demolished to make room for Riverfront Stadium,
784
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which was there until two thousand and two. He would
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00:56:10.679 --> 00:56:13.639
always joke that he was born on second Base because
786
00:56:13.880 --> 00:56:16.639
that's about where his apartment was after the stadium was built.
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00:56:17.639 --> 00:56:19.840
When he was one year old, his father decided to
788
00:56:19.920 --> 00:56:22.800
move the family out of the city, so he and
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his brother, Roy's uncle built a houseboat out of salvaged lumber,
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00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:31.039
sailed it up the Ohio River, and they bought land
791
00:56:31.119 --> 00:56:33.800
in Portsmouth, Ohio, where they planned to build a house.
792
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But then there was the Great Flood of nineteen thirteen,
793
00:56:38.440 --> 00:56:41.519
which floated the boat all the way onto land, so
794
00:56:41.719 --> 00:56:50.159
the houseboat just became the house conveniently, believe it or not. Wow, right,
795
00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:54.079
it's a terrible disaster that I guess for them worked
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out pretty well, So there you go, silver lining. Yeah,
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00:56:58.440 --> 00:57:01.320
his father father was a very hard worker. They later
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00:57:01.519 --> 00:57:04.480
moved to a farm, and to supplement the family income,
799
00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:08.119
his father took a job in a shoe factory. He
800
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would work at the factory during the week, then come
801
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home on the weekends and try to run the farm.
802
00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:15.159
He would always bring gifts for the kids. One of
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00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:19.039
those gifts was a horse, which is how Leonard Slash
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00:57:19.159 --> 00:57:21.559
later Roy learned how to ride a horse. That was
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00:57:21.599 --> 00:57:24.719
a gift from his father. Wow, they didn't have a radio,
806
00:57:24.920 --> 00:57:27.559
and instead they would invite the neighbors over for square
807
00:57:27.679 --> 00:57:32.840
dances and len as he was known, Leonard lenn learned
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00:57:32.840 --> 00:57:35.480
the mandolin and he would sing and call out the dances,
809
00:57:35.559 --> 00:57:37.400
you know, the two and fro and docy does and
810
00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:38.800
all that kind of stuff. You learned how to do
811
00:57:38.920 --> 00:57:40.880
that as a kid, and he would just call out
812
00:57:40.920 --> 00:57:43.760
the dances for the neighbors. He dropped out of high
813
00:57:43.760 --> 00:57:47.239
school after his sophomore year to help the family financially.
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00:57:47.920 --> 00:57:50.360
He tried to go to night school afterwards, but would
815
00:57:50.920 --> 00:57:53.639
keep falling asleep because he would work all day and
816
00:57:53.719 --> 00:57:55.800
then sit down in a classroom and just nod off,
817
00:57:55.920 --> 00:57:59.000
and the other classmates would make fun of him, so
818
00:57:59.079 --> 00:58:02.000
he just gave up and drop out permanently. One of
819
00:58:02.079 --> 00:58:04.280
his sisters got married and moved out to California in
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00:58:04.360 --> 00:58:07.320
nineteen twenty nine. The whole family went out to visit,
821
00:58:07.719 --> 00:58:11.000
and then the whole family went out to move to California.
822
00:58:11.199 --> 00:58:13.880
Following this, son's sister. Yeah, I guess they liked it
823
00:58:13.960 --> 00:58:17.920
that much. Len got a drop, Lenn slash Roy got
824
00:58:17.960 --> 00:58:20.599
a job driving a gravel truck, and then he picked
825
00:58:20.679 --> 00:58:23.320
peaches for the del Monte Company, which is still around.
826
00:58:24.039 --> 00:58:26.239
The Great Depression hit and it was just tough for
827
00:58:26.320 --> 00:58:29.679
everybody across the board at this time. Growing up, Len
828
00:58:29.880 --> 00:58:32.320
was notably shy. When he was nine years old, his
829
00:58:32.440 --> 00:58:35.679
sister encouraged him to audition for a local radio program
830
00:58:36.199 --> 00:58:39.360
called Midnight Frolic. Lenn was already a musician and he
831
00:58:39.400 --> 00:58:41.599
would perform, but face to face, he was a shy kid.
832
00:58:42.199 --> 00:58:44.000
But he sucked it up. He went on the air
833
00:58:44.079 --> 00:58:46.400
and he sang and he yodeled and he played guitar,
834
00:58:47.039 --> 00:58:48.880
and that got him a gig with a local group
835
00:58:48.960 --> 00:58:52.039
called the Rocky Mountaineers. He was in a bunch of
836
00:58:52.079 --> 00:58:56.079
different groups on regular radio shows. Back in nineteen thirty three,
837
00:58:56.360 --> 00:59:00.239
he helped form the Pioneer's Trio with two friends. Again
838
00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:02.599
this is time, I've said it many times before, back
839
00:59:02.639 --> 00:59:07.119
when local radio was the thing that was celebrity status,
840
00:59:07.199 --> 00:59:09.960
you know. So he performed the Pioneer's Trio with two
841
00:59:10.039 --> 00:59:12.920
friends and the name got changed to Sons of the
842
00:59:13.000 --> 00:59:16.360
Pioneers for two reasons. One, a radio announcer said that
843
00:59:16.400 --> 00:59:19.159
they were too young to be actual Pioneers, so he
844
00:59:19.280 --> 00:59:24.760
made them sons. And two they added more bands band members,
845
00:59:24.800 --> 00:59:26.639
so they were no longer a trio, so they couldn't
846
00:59:26.679 --> 00:59:29.800
really sell themselves as a trio, so they became Yeah,
847
00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:33.280
Sons of the Pioneers, but it worked out. Side note,
848
00:59:33.880 --> 00:59:37.480
one of the other members would be actor, singer musician
849
00:59:37.719 --> 00:59:41.159
Sug Fisher, who, among a ton of other roles, would
850
00:59:41.280 --> 00:59:45.159
voice Uncle Pico on Tom and Jerry and sing Crambone
851
00:59:46.079 --> 00:59:48.480
the song you know where the guitar string keeps popping
852
00:59:48.599 --> 00:59:51.800
and he yanks out Tom's whiskers different and that's where
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00:59:51.840 --> 00:59:55.800
we crambones come from. See it all comes back around.
854
00:59:57.679 --> 01:00:00.000
So the Sons of the Pioneers became a national success
855
01:00:00.280 --> 01:00:04.360
and signed with Decca Records. Lenn still going by Leonard Sly,
856
01:00:04.599 --> 01:00:07.960
got his first acting role in nineteen thirty five. Gene
857
01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:10.239
Autry was the big Western star at the time. We
858
01:00:10.360 --> 01:00:13.800
talked about gene Autry. He sang Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer.
859
01:00:13.880 --> 01:00:15.320
He was the first one to do that. Here comes
860
01:00:15.320 --> 01:00:18.440
Santa Claus. We talked about him on the Christmas shows. Well,
861
01:00:19.199 --> 01:00:22.159
excuse me. As he got more popular, he demanded more
862
01:00:22.199 --> 01:00:25.880
money for his roles, so a competing movie studio decided
863
01:00:25.920 --> 01:00:29.079
to hold auditions for a new singing cowboy who they
864
01:00:29.119 --> 01:00:32.599
could pay much less than what gene Autry wanted. Guess
865
01:00:32.599 --> 01:00:38.000
who won, Leonard Sly. He became the new singing cowboy,
866
01:00:38.199 --> 01:00:40.800
and the studio gave him the new name Roy Rogers
867
01:00:41.440 --> 01:00:44.920
because Roy sounded like a Western kind of name, okay,
868
01:00:45.639 --> 01:00:50.000
and Rogers was from the famous entertainer Will Rogers. You know,
869
01:00:50.159 --> 01:00:51.760
I mean never met a man. I didn't like that
870
01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:54.039
kind of thing. If you don't know Will Rogers, you
871
01:00:54.039 --> 01:00:56.920
can hop over to one of our other podcasts, Classic
872
01:00:57.039 --> 01:01:00.840
Radio Theater, because there's some of Will rogers old performances
873
01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:02.960
on there. You can scroll back. His humor did not
874
01:01:03.039 --> 01:01:05.880
hold up very well, but he was very, very popular.
875
01:01:07.519 --> 01:01:09.760
He was, so we're back to Roy. Roy was a
876
01:01:09.800 --> 01:01:13.079
huge success in Western films, a popular TV show, records,
877
01:01:13.320 --> 01:01:17.199
merchandise during and well after World War Two into the
878
01:01:17.719 --> 01:01:20.760
late nineteen fifties. He had a clause in his studio
879
01:01:20.840 --> 01:01:23.639
contract where he retained rights to his likeness, his voice,
880
01:01:24.039 --> 01:01:27.599
his stage name Roy Rogers, all for merchandising, and there
881
01:01:27.760 --> 01:01:32.360
was a lot of Roy Rogers merchandise, second only to
882
01:01:32.519 --> 01:01:36.719
Walt Disney. Wow, right, so that's pretty big.
883
01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:39.519
I feel like I remember some of that stuff.
884
01:01:39.519 --> 01:01:40.599
Oh, I remember.
885
01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:44.000
Lunchboxes, the action figures, Trigger, his horse.
886
01:01:44.639 --> 01:01:50.599
I actually have a and Roy Rogers' doll. His legs
887
01:01:50.639 --> 01:01:52.639
are kind of U shaped so that he could fit
888
01:01:52.719 --> 01:01:56.159
on the horse. Yeah, that belonged to my late first husband.
889
01:01:56.199 --> 01:01:57.000
I still have them.
890
01:01:57.119 --> 01:01:58.760
Yeah, cowboy legs.
891
01:01:58.960 --> 01:02:02.119
Cowboy legs. And if you post a picture, it's remember
892
01:02:02.159 --> 01:02:03.239
to get your prostay check.
893
01:02:06.039 --> 01:02:06.280
Yep.
894
01:02:07.199 --> 01:02:09.559
Yeah, and Trigger was a big part of all that merchandising.
895
01:02:09.599 --> 01:02:12.639
His horse, Trigger, who will talk about in a second.
896
01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:15.840
So Roy kept the Sons of the Pioneers going. Even
897
01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:18.880
as members drop dead, he would just replace them with
898
01:02:19.000 --> 01:02:21.800
new ones and keep the Pioneers going. They would be
899
01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:24.760
his backup group in the movies where he was front
900
01:02:24.840 --> 01:02:27.159
man singing, and then he would have Sons of the
901
01:02:27.199 --> 01:02:30.800
Pioneer singing in the back. Roy would perform live with
902
01:02:31.000 --> 01:02:34.400
them every once in a while. He married his first wife, Grace,
903
01:02:34.480 --> 01:02:36.840
in nineteen thirty six, after she called in to a
904
01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:40.559
radio station in New Mexico where he was performing Good
905
01:02:40.599 --> 01:02:44.239
for her. She yeah, she took the initiative. I'll give
906
01:02:44.239 --> 01:02:46.760
her that. She promised to make them a pie and
907
01:02:46.840 --> 01:02:52.079
then she did. Cute. Yeah, they adopted a daughter. They
908
01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:54.639
had another daughter of their own before Grace died of
909
01:02:54.760 --> 01:02:59.039
natural causes. He later married actress Dale Evans, and they
910
01:02:59.159 --> 01:03:03.119
ran children's They were advocates for adoption for homeless children,
911
01:03:03.199 --> 01:03:06.079
for disabled children. Back when you know, if you had
912
01:03:06.119 --> 01:03:08.159
a severely disabled child, they would tell you to drop
913
01:03:08.239 --> 01:03:11.000
them at an institution and forget they existed, which I
914
01:03:11.079 --> 01:03:17.039
cannot even imagine. So hats off to them. They had
915
01:03:17.079 --> 01:03:19.440
a child of their own. They adopted four more on
916
01:03:19.559 --> 01:03:19.960
top of that.
917
01:03:20.559 --> 01:03:21.360
Wow yep.
918
01:03:22.119 --> 01:03:25.119
So Roy and Dale settled in Apple Valley, California, where
919
01:03:25.159 --> 01:03:28.159
they opened a museum, the Roy Rogers Dale Evans Museum,
920
01:03:28.800 --> 01:03:31.480
where they would display all the memorabilia from the movies,
921
01:03:31.480 --> 01:03:33.679
all that kind of stuff. The museum would move twice,
922
01:03:34.280 --> 01:03:38.360
landing the last time in Branson, Missouri, and it closed
923
01:03:38.400 --> 01:03:40.800
in two thousand and nine as both the economy tanked
924
01:03:40.840 --> 01:03:44.159
in two thousand and eight and frankly, their popularity and
925
01:03:44.199 --> 01:03:47.360
people who knew where they were were starting to ride
926
01:03:47.400 --> 01:03:49.960
off into the sunset. Shall we say as on their own.
927
01:03:51.119 --> 01:03:54.320
One of the biggest attractions was his horse Trigger, who
928
01:03:54.639 --> 01:03:57.960
was long dead and very stuffed and very much put
929
01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:01.599
on display as a giant stuffed ho oh my gosh.
930
01:04:01.519 --> 01:04:04.880
Yeah, I remember. You know. It caused a bit of
931
01:04:04.920 --> 01:04:07.360
an a bit of a stir when that happened.
932
01:04:07.559 --> 01:04:09.920
Yeah, he was quoted saying he couldn't let the worms
933
01:04:09.960 --> 01:04:12.840
get to Trigger or something along those lines. So, yeah,
934
01:04:12.880 --> 01:04:14.079
he had them stuffed instead.
935
01:04:14.320 --> 01:04:15.440
Wasn't Trigger a girl?
936
01:04:15.760 --> 01:04:18.039
No, No, Trigger was the horse. Dale Evans was the
937
01:04:18.079 --> 01:04:18.519
girl I.
938
01:04:18.599 --> 01:04:18.960
Know, I know.
939
01:04:19.719 --> 01:04:21.400
Wasn't enough female horse.
940
01:04:21.599 --> 01:04:24.400
Oh it could be. I don't know him her, really,
941
01:04:25.119 --> 01:04:27.960
I have not seen Trigger stuffed, and I would not
942
01:04:28.119 --> 01:04:31.639
think to check the undercarriage myself. I don't know if
943
01:04:31.679 --> 01:04:33.119
they stuffed everything or.
944
01:04:34.639 --> 01:04:34.960
I don't know.
945
01:04:35.079 --> 01:04:38.039
I left off made it more family friendly.
946
01:04:38.159 --> 01:04:43.119
They didn't have enough stuffing, is you know? Yeah, edit
947
01:04:43.199 --> 01:04:43.480
that out.
948
01:04:43.480 --> 01:04:45.519
I'm sorry, It's okay, We're going to move on. Yeah,
949
01:04:48.199 --> 01:04:50.760
all right. So, starting in nineteen sixty eight, Roy Rogers
950
01:04:50.880 --> 01:04:54.199
licensed his stage name to the Marriott Corporation, which rebranded
951
01:04:54.239 --> 01:04:58.079
their restaurants into the Roy Rogers Restaurants, which I remember seeing.
952
01:04:58.760 --> 01:04:59.480
I remember seeing.
953
01:04:59.519 --> 01:05:00.920
I he never went into one.
954
01:05:01.199 --> 01:05:01.800
I've never been.
955
01:05:02.320 --> 01:05:03.800
No, neither was he.
956
01:05:04.079 --> 01:05:06.280
He had absolutely nothing to do with them other than
957
01:05:06.360 --> 01:05:10.320
catching the checks for using his name. So we're apparently
958
01:05:10.559 --> 01:05:14.400
team Roy Rogers, not team Restaurant. He would perform and
959
01:05:14.480 --> 01:05:17.039
make appearances up until his death in nineteen ninety eight
960
01:05:17.159 --> 01:05:19.719
at age eighty six. He has a ton of awards,
961
01:05:19.800 --> 01:05:22.039
too minute to go over for his charity work and
962
01:05:22.199 --> 01:05:25.239
for show biz. He has three stars on the Hollywood
963
01:05:25.239 --> 01:05:28.239
Walk of Fame. He was inducted twice into the Country
964
01:05:28.320 --> 01:05:30.480
Music Hall of Fame as part of the Sons of
965
01:05:30.559 --> 01:05:34.079
the Pioneers and as a solo performer. The Roy Rogers
966
01:05:34.119 --> 01:05:36.840
Show was a very popular radio show and then a
967
01:05:36.920 --> 01:05:40.360
popular TV show. He and Dale would end each episode
968
01:05:40.440 --> 01:05:43.679
with a song that Dale wrote called Happy Trails, which
969
01:05:43.840 --> 01:05:47.639
this year was inducted into the National Recording Registry, which
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01:05:48.159 --> 01:05:51.880
for its significance. It's a historical significance. So I thought
971
01:05:51.880 --> 01:05:53.480
we'd give it a spin. Let's give a listen to
972
01:05:53.719 --> 01:05:54.480
Happy Trails.
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01:05:56.400 --> 01:06:10.440
Happy You until le me again have betrayed? Still you
974
01:06:12.880 --> 01:06:13.880
keeps love.
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01:06:15.559 --> 01:06:15.920
To me?
976
01:06:18.199 --> 01:06:22.519
Who cares about the clouds? When we're to get other
977
01:06:23.320 --> 01:06:27.559
las sing a song and bring the sunny away? Other
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have betrayed.
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Still you.
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Tell me, but again happ betrayed.
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To you.
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Until we'll be again and betrayed.
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To you.
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Keep smad enough delay who cares about the us one?
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Where you go.
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Singing a song and bringing the song? Way have betrayed.
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To de me?
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Who cares about the clouds when we're too gay? Just
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sing a song and bring my Sonny wed betrayed.
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So I went digging for Roy Rogers dirt. Came up
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nothing just by all accounts, seems to be legit true gentleman.
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He and Dale, all the charity work, all the stuff
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he did, could not find anything bad. And how often
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do you you hear that?
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You know exactly?
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Which I think is pretty cool he did if you
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have time to go down the rabbit hole. He did
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an interview on the Old David Letterman Show, like the original,
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you know, old set. I don't even know Paul Shaffer
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was there yet, kind of old, and you know, Roy's
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dressed up in the cowboy out and he's older. At
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this point, I think his popularity he's kind of waning.
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And you could just tell he was so grateful just
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to be there and like to have the acknowledgement and
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all that stuff, and was happy to tell the stories,
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and so it was pretty cool. So Letterman was a fan.
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Bernie Taupin was a fan like I mentioned, and so
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is Elton fan of Roy Rogers. So they wrote the
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song titled Roy Rogers for Goodbye Yellow Brick Road. I
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don't know how much more of an introduction I can
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give to a song about Roy Rogers by Elton John.
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So let's play.
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Sometimes sometimes scenes there's nothing there, you see much than yesterday,
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and you waited.
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The drought, the curtains and one things to say, you're
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close in your in the room.
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The compsy for got less the TV.
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Let's go shoot a hood the moon.
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As in ritime, returning to our self screen.
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Comment characters ever rule illain a hero star is the
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tone all the.
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Radzic when gwar who sings out the planes around us
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and wrestlers and all my right, turn off the teasing, shut.
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Out the lights. What a rider is a rityn.
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Dyna clock born ms five hour o'clock em ens.
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I live on the basis vicer water the ham. I
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had my sound with cheers, but complain and what do man?
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My good.
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Leaves back in my arm chair, those eyes sinklar.
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I can hear these deeds the hand rodriger having just t.
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The huge while wipe the kid.
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Sarg sat riding to line, returning to our self. Screen
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comic characters never gold.
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Ella Mena heroes.
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Who start Joe all the bad.
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Segment come sings out the lines.
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Around us and whistlers and about the rise, turn off.
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TV, shut out the lie.
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I like a little little hint of the accent there,
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the English slash Southern American accent como. That's tough to do. So, Neil,
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you had some Happy Trails right right?
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Yeah, No, when when you brought this up, I was
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remembering there's a San Francisco band from late sixties. Their
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second LP was called Happy Trails. The band was Quicksilver
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Messenger Service. Oh oh yeah, as say, their second album
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was Cold Happy Trails, and at the end of the
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album they kind of they don't do like a whole thing.
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They kind of like do an homage to it. It's
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the Dale Evans song. It's you know, it's it's you know,
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the right song, but they don't, you know, they kind
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of fade out with it. Anyway. I always thought it
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was funny because Happy Trails, well, especially back then, you know,
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late sixties early seventies, trails was a euphemism for how
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can I put the psychedelic hallucinogenic experience that one would
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have if I can maybe if you waved your arm
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across you know, you wave your arm across, you.
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Know, way you can try to explain a trail.
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Hang on and say yeah, and it kind of has
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this like repeating effect, kind of like like dominoes, you know.
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And yeah. It was not that I know this for sure,
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I mean, Mercedes probably does, but I was told about
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I was told about this by a girl with kaleidoscope
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eyes actually and a porter with plastic scene ties or
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looking No, but anyway.
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He threw the bus.
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Who me, No, I don't know what that meant, but yeah, Mercedes,
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Mercedes made me say this. No, but yeah, trails were
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it was. It was like kind of they were laughing
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up their sleeves about you know, you know, trails was
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a much different thing. But happy ones, you know, yeah,
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how yeah, happy trails where he can't go wrong? Agreed,
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I say happy trails to everyone.
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On a more innocent note, if you do google Roy Rogers,
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there is a slide guitarist who's pretty well known that
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still playing he's said seventy five. He was actually named
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after the actor, So it depends on which Roy Rogers
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you want to look up. So just as a heads up, Yeah,
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so that's Mercedes. That's what I had.
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That was great, love it.
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Hey, I want to thank everybody for making this happen
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because this.
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Was a lot of fun for me.
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I really really enjoyed it and good thanks to all
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of you for making my dream come true. Anyway, Brian,
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do you want to take us out the rest of
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the way?
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Oh you're gonna dump it back in my lap? Okay, yeah, yeah,
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all right, I can handle that fair enough. But good job,
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thank you, good topic, and thank you for taking over.
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And that was a lot of fun. That was a
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lot of fun to listen to. Yeah, so yeah, thank
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you all, Crambones, thank you Mercedes, and thank you all
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for joining us here for the Rock and Roll History Show.
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Don't forget to subscribe in your favorite podcast app and
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01:16:57.399 --> 01:17:00.319
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Silver Screen, and we encourage you to do so.
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Yeah all right, yes, yes, we'll be back there, double
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the fun.
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We'll be back next week with another brand new episode.
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Until then, have a great weekend everybody, and peace out.
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A rock cop bottom it trum Okay, Bye bye.
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You're listening right now.
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Hello, everybody, Welcome back to the Rock and Roll History
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Show and Hudson River Radio. I'm Brian Horowitz. Tonight we're
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doing a crossover with the silver screen and we're gonna
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be talking about music about actors. But I'm gonna leave
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that to Mercedes to explain, as always allowed me to
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introduce the Crambos joining us here tonight, and then I
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am gonna sit back and turn it over. First and
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foremost from the Richter Observatory. He once had a job
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selling underwear.
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It was brief.
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Neil Richter is back from underwear?
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Is what I want to know under there some some
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how you doing everybody.
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From Paranormal yours. She says there are two types of
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people and she avoids them both. Gail nucom is.
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Here absolutely, Brian.
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You know mesop well as time goes on, I am
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with you one hundred percent. And the host of the
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Silver Screen. She went into a bar to play play
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bar trivia and the first question was can you name
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two things that hold water? And she said, well, damn Mercedes,
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catches were us. So I won, So you won. Congratulations.
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And last but not least, the host of Shaving Cream.
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She decided to take up fencing, but the neighbors asked
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her to put it back Barbara Bale to see you.
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Welcome backbar So. Tonight's topic is courtesy of Mercedes again
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and our crossover with silver Screen. So Mercedes, they saw you.
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Okay, I'm ready, I'm here. So this is a show
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that I have been wanting to do for a long time.
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I think it's a really fun topic and there are
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so many good choices. I wanted to do it for
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the silver Screen podcast, but then it dawned on me
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that there was a better way if I did it
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as a crossover show with the Crambones on the Rock
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and Roll History Show. It wouldn't just be my input,
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it would be all of us here, and that's.
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What we do best.
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Right tell me?
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Yeah?
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Absolutely.
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The topic songs about actors is a crossover in itself.
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It's musicians writing and singing about other art forms, acting
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like if an artist paints a musician or if an
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actor plays an artist in a film. Plus, since actors
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are out in the public eye, we're all familiar with
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them and sometimes we feel like we know them. And
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then you throw in celebrity magazines, YouTube, TikTok, Facebook, where
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we get to read about all their quote unquote personal lives.
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Of course, we don't really know what you know. I mean,
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we only know what they allow us to know for
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the most part part, unless they're involved in some kind
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of scandal. So why wouldn't musicians write lyrics about celebrities.
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It's a topic that we all know at least a
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little bit about. I am so excited to hear all
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the songs that y'all have brought, but first I want
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to talk a little bit about some of the songs
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that didn't get pecked. There is a song titled James
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Dean by the Eagles. Some of the lyrics are We'll
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talk about a low down bad refrigerator and which is which?
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If from what I can find, means like James Dean
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is super cool, wonderful.
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That was a long trip for a short ending.
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The rest.
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Some more of the lyrics are You're just too cool
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for school, sock hop, so to pop, basketball, and auto shop.
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The only thing that got you off was breaking all
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the rules and it goes on. Along came a spider
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and picked up a writer took him down the road
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to eternity. I had to double check that, but I
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assumed that spider was the kind of car he was in,
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and it was. There is another song, Whatever Happened to
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Corey Hame by The Thrills. Corey Haim was, of course,
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one of the Two Corries, and they even rate their
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own Wikipedia page. The Two Corries or American actor Corey
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Feldman and Canadian actor Corey Ham, who were often paired together.
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Feldman and Ham were a child actress during the nineteen
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eighties and they were nine films together. They both had
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substance abuse issues, So some lyrics from Whatever Happened to
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Corey Ham are I came to the city to build
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a mountain of envy and to marry Kennedy, which kind
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of refers to like the American dream. So let's stay
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out tonight. I just can't stop it. I don't know
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for sure what the lyrics are saying. They right there,
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but I just can't stop it. I am going to interpret.
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As drugs right sounds like it.
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So once site says the question whatever happened to Corey
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Haim really means whatever happened to the world I knew
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when I was young, when life was good. Robert De
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Niro's Waiting is a song that I almost picked. I
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was surprised that nobody picked that song. I didn't know
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the meaning of the song and was very surprised to
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read about it. It's a song by Banana Rama. So
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the song is about a girl who has been I
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don't know how I can say this date, how do
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we say it online now graped.
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Or essay.
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And imagines Robert de Niro as her boyfriend to cope
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with the trauma and to provide a sense of security
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and production. So that was a surprise to me. If
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anybody knows that song, that was not at all.
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I don't know that I remember the song, but I
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didn't know that's what it was about.
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no idea. So you can see how all these lyrics
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almost sound like they're talking about people that they know,
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they're familiar with. My song is about Scarlett Johansson, and
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she's an actress, and the title is Starlet Johanson, which
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listening back to the song and I was like, oh,
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wait a second. The lyrics on the surface are about
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the singer's infatuation with the actress Scarlett Johansson, but underneath
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it's really about the fantasy of celebrity love. Whereas I
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said earlier, the lines are blurred between reality and imagination.
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Scarlett Johansson is this unattainable dream. She is a fantasy
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version of a human woman. Then they mentioned the characters
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that she's played. There is one line, you whisper at
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horses ears. I always found it exciting where they are
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referring to the horse Whisper, a movie from nineteen ninety eight.
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lost in Tokyo or anywhere else, which is a reference
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to Lost in Translation, which was a two thousand and
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three film. Another line mentions a party she had in Disneyland.
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party at Disneyland, but it's something you might read in
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a celebrity magazine. So the singer is imagining her as
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someone so famous that she can have glamorous parties at
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places like that. If you can't even imagine, so, let's
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hear the sun.
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I know you're born in eighty four.
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How foolish you started at eight on Broadway?
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It's your star.
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You don't belive you know a gammy? I na chance
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card it? Marry me alious cut. You can't like it
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when I am, give me love it.
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You brought out the horse's ears I always find exciting.
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I'll start by spiders too. I never managed to blame you.
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I'll summer month ago ast with you.
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Lost in your cure anywhere else.
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I wish I'd been invited.
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What's your end?
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You don't believe you know a gammy?
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Were not chance.
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Card it to marry me Alius cut.
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You can't like it what I am? You will love it?
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You don't be again. I'm not jazz carriage with your dream.
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Oh you guy, you can't like you, but.
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I am you will love it.
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When I'm not just.
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For shadow little that's not sadent for thirty seconds for
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your shop.
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You don't be if you want.
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A jammy, I'm not chats cottach tweety me. Oh your god,
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you can't like you.
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What I am you in love it?
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You don't be love a jammy.
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I'm not chats cotta tweelmy. Oh your god, you can't
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like you? Wh I am you in love it?
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So I like that song.
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I had never heard that before. I was pretty excited
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to find that song.
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Catchy and creepy.
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The Teenagers were a French synth pop trio formed in
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two thousand and five. There are Spotify account reads like this.
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An irreverent, humorous bunch of scraggly neo new wave indie wockers.
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The Teenagers, Quentin Delephon, Dorian Dumont and Michael's Spin Spinner
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Formed in late two thousand and five. Initially, they formed
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as a joke. They created a MySpace profile for their
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non existent band, and used the comments they received as
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the inspiration for their first lyrics MySpace. I think that's amazing.
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Is my space still around? Somebody tried to revive it, right,
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I don't even know if that's still a thing.
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I think it's gone. I think The Mrock record label
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signed the band and released a couple of the band's
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singles in two thousand and seven, including Homecoming and Starlett Johansson.
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The XL label record company released Reality Check, the band's
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first album in early two thousand and eight. The Enemy,
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which is the New Music Express, praised the band's self
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aware This is in quotes, smart sentiments played out against
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a backdrop of lush, danceable, huggable pop.
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I love that.
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They have been said to sound like craftwork doing the
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soundtrack to a porno film. Yeah, I don't know.
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I don't know.
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The track Homecoming was elected fourth best Song of two
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thousand and seven by Enemy New Music Express. As far
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as I can tell, they have all released one album.
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They toured Europe and the US in two thousand and
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eight and in twenty twenty I'm Sorry. In twenty twenty,
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the band announced that they were no longer active and
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had not been for some time, and posted a link
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to a farewell song titled do You Remember. So they
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basically just fell off the face of the earth for
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a while and then decided to say goodbye to everybody.
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Okay, hey, when it's over, it's over.
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Hey, yues.
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So next up we got Neil and I'm super excited
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to hear about this son.
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Oh well, the thespian I've chosen for this show is
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Edie Sedgwick Edith Edie Sedgwick. She was born in nineteen
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forty three and was an American actress, model, and socialite.
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She's best known for being one of Andy Warhol's superstars
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and starred in several of his short film in the
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nineteen sixties. This led to her being dubbed an it
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girl and a youth quaker by Vogue magazine in nineteen
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sixty five. Eddie was one of eight children born to
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the aristocratic Sedgwick family of Massachusetts, but despite the family's
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wealth and high social status, Sedgwick's childhood was kind of troubled,
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raised along with her siblings on their abusive father's California
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ranch and being for the most part isolated from the
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rest of the outside world. All the Sedgwick children grew
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up to experience mental and emotional problems. Edie herself developed anorexia,
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and by her early teens had spent time in several
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private hospitals and institutions. Now, in nineteen sixty four, Sedgwick
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moved to New York City to pursue a modeling career,
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and it was the following year that she met avant
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garde artist and n filmmaker Andy Warhol at a party,
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and she began frequenting Warhol's art studio, known as the Factory,
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located in Midtown Manhattan. Sedgwick appeared briefly in a couple
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of Warhol films, and that generated enough interest for Warhol
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to cast her in several starring roles for several of
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his next films. But you know, let's say in all honesty,
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Warhol's films were for the most part only shown at
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underground film theaters and at screenings held at the Factory itself,
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and were not exactly commercially successful. But anyway, by this
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time Sedgwick had begun living in the infamous Chelsea Hotel
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in New York City, where she became close friends with
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Bob Dylan. Sedgwick developed a mad crush on Dylan and
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was convinced that she and Dylan would star in a
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mainstream movie together. Now this was news to Bob Dylan,
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who had already secretly married his girlfriend and never had
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any plans to star in a film with Sedgwick. Now,
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it's been speculated that the Dylan songs just Like a
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Woman and Like a Rolling Stone were both inspired by Sedgwick,
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and I believe the line like a rolling Stone the
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Napoleon in Rags was a reference to Andy Warhol himself,
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leading to a kind of a war between the Warhol
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camp and the Dylan camp. They did not get along,
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but Eddie was also associated with other Warhol proteges, The
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Velvet Underground, of course, led by Lou Reed, and their
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nineteen sixty seven song fem Fetal was also written about her. Now,
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Sedgwick left Warhol and the Factory scene in nineteen sixty
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six and returned to California in an attempt to forge
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a legitimate acting career. But when she returned, her parents
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had her committed to a psych word just like that
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but anyway. In nineteen sixty seven, Sedgwick began shooting a
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semi auto autobiographical underground film called Chow Manhattan, which brings
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us to our song for today, edy Chow Baby by
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the British rock band The Cult. The song appears on
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The Cult's fourth studio album called Sonic Temple and was
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released in nineteen eighty nine. The band, with the original
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name Southern Death Cult, shortened to Just Death Cult and
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finally simply to the Cult, was formed in nineteen eighty three,
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and since then the band has had various line ups,
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with the longest serving members being singer Ian Astbury and
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guitarist Billy Duffy, and they were also the band's two
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main songwriters. They're joined on this recording by Jamie Stewart
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on bass and Mike Curry on drums. So before we
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go any further, let's listen to the Cults ode to
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Edie Sedgwick Edie show.
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Baby, So do you worry you with her?
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A staring and world one of the staring please an
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angel later broken We.
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Oh bress your g oscar in your.
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Without than you call us.
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Your Parados shadows, Oh my pills you up, You're rencess shadows,
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chopping Holy Press joke chees, what's not up the.
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Shop?
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Sugar sweet, little sugar talkers, Parani has screamings, Peters.
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Holds little Queen.
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He eager and I drove it up doctor last.
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Choking. Oh my god, Jo.
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Stop, what are you doing?
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What s.
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Don't you uber? Shop? What are you doing?
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Shop?
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That's his.
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Jo.
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Now due to Edie's rapidly deteriorating health from drug use,
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and the filming of Chow Manhattan had to be suspended.
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She was hospitalized for joke abuse and mental issues in
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nineteen sixty eight, and then in nineteen sixty nine was
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placed in a psych word again after being arrested for
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drug charges. Now, while in the hospital, Sedgwick met her
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another patient, her future husband, Michael Post, and she was
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determined to finish Chow Manhattan and to have her story told.
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So Sedgwick abstained from drugs and alcohol and completed filming
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Chow Manhattan in early nineteen seventy one. She married Post
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in July of that year. Now, four months later, there,
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Sedgwick went to a fashion show and attended an after
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party where she had been drinking. So she phoned up
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her husband to come pick her up, and when they
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got home post gave Sedgwick medication that she'd been prescribed
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to had been prescribed by a doctor. But I think
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you can see where this is going, because the following
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morning he woke up and he found Edie Sedgwick dead.
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The coroner ruled her death as an undetermined accidental suicide
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due to acute barbituate and ethanol intoxication. Edie Sedgwick was
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twenty eight years old.
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Oh man.
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The film Chow Manhattan was released in February of nineteen
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seventy two, posthumously obviously. As for the cult, they have
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continued to play on and off over the years and
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toured as recently as last summer, I believe. But meanwhile,
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there have been countless other songs written by all sorts
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of other artists over the years that were either inspired
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by or directly mentioned Edie Sedgwick, and that continues to
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keep her pop culture legacy alive.
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Chow Baby, good one, Neil, I have to tell you,
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I was looking at pictures of her online while you
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while the song was playing.
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Well, I've found it interesting that, I mean, in the
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mid six these like that, I was like ten years old, Okay,
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So I can't believe that the members of the cult
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that wrote the song were much either older or yeah,
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so it's this interesting they're writing a song about someone
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that was They probably had no you know, conception of
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that even you know, at that age, I didn't know
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any of that stuff. Wasn't until you know later that,
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you know, just reading books and whatever. And apparently I
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don't remember the name of it. There is a book,
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it's like an oral history about Edie Sedgwick, which is
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like compiled of interviews from different people in her life
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and in this you know, her sphere of you know,
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everywhere she'd been. There's no like actual text, if I remember.
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It's the interviews and one takes over for the other
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one and it tells the story through other people's words,
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and which is an interesting way to write a book anyway,
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a biography. So check that out if you get a chance.
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I'd almost forgotten about that. I remember, you know, seeing
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it and reading parts of it while back in somewhere
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in the mid eighties somewhere. But anyway, that's Edie Sedgework.
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Very cool.
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Oh yeah, all right, we're gonna have to take a break.
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We are going to be back with more cool songs,
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so don't go anywhere.
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To This is Hudson River Radio dot Com.
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Ah, and we're back with what are we doing today?
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We're doing a rock and roll history show.
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Yeah, it's crossover, it's earth. You're in the right spot.
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We're confusing.
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And we are talking to bad songs about actors and
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I'm having a good time.
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Yeah.
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So next up we have Barbara all right.
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Well, I wanted to give the deats about the singer
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I chose before I mentioned the song, and the song
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is by Bonnie Joe Mason and she was born Cheryl
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Sarchizion on May twenty, nineteen forty six, in El Central California.
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Her parents split up when she was ten months old,
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and she was placed in an orphanage where her mother
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was allowed to visit but was only allowed to see
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her child through a window, and her mother later remarried
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and divorced several times, resulting in the family moving around
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the US frequently. Mason was fascinated by film stars, especially
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Audrey Hepburn, Marlene Dietrich, Betty Davis and Katherine Hepburn, and
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she had dreamed of fame, but thought herself too inadequate
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and unattractive. Nevertheless, her goal was to become famous, and
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her preoccupation with this goal was often distracting, especially at school,
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where she later discovered she had dyslexia. During school lunches
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and other breaks, she would often entertain her classmates by
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singing to them. But she dropped out of school at sixteen,
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took acting lessons, and supported herself by dancing in nightclubs
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along Hollywood's sunset.
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You know, because what could go wrong for a sixteen
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year old to do that? It worked for me, thanks
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for the visual.
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She would introduce herself to performers, managers, and agents, anyone
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she thought might help give her a break. So, while
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still sixteen, she ended up meeting a twenty seven year
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old gentleman named Salvator Bono who had been working for
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Phil Spector, and she agreed to work as Salvator's housekeeper.
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He introduced her to Spector, who went on to use
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her as a backup singer for recordings such as You've
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Lost That Loving Feeling by the Righteous Brothers and the Runettes,
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Be My Baby, Spector produced her first single, Ringo I.
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Love You in nineteen sixty four. So let's let's listen.
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To it now.
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I go.
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Yeah in this mom, I want to be please let
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me hold you No, they say yeah, I'll never get
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to moon time. Let's let me please, let me hold
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you up.
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I want to things, nay, I want to let you
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know comes podcast. I wanted anything in this farm. I
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wanna beyond.
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This gop radio.
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I want to worry Amy, I want to be one.
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Okay. I thought that song was cool. I don't know
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about you love it. Yeah, I've never heard that so innocent.
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I was actually very surprised to come across this song.
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I had never heard of it before.
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I love how they she incorporated or whoever incorporated the
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you know the the Beatles song.
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Been homage but not enough to get sued, right, But
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then Phil Spector would wind up doing let it Be.
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He wound up working with the Beatles later on and
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totally screwing up that album.
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Let's let's not go there.
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We could do a whole show about that. So at
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the time, many radio programmers rejected the song due to
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the deep contralto vocals, assuming it was sung by a
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male homosexual singing a love song to Ringo.
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Oh gosh.
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Specter had her use the name Bonnie Joe Mason because
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he wanted American sounding names. By this time, Cheryl Sarkisian
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had taken the last name of her stepfather and was
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known as Cheryl Lapierre. Today, she is known simply as cher.
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And both share. Wow. Yeah, I was really really surprised.
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I had no clue about this. I totally love.
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Ringo and I totally loved Share, and this just mixed
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two beautiful things that I love together, and that's why
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I totally loved it.
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I'm assuming she shortened her name because you keep changing
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last names like that, you got to reorder your checks
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and get them all over pain. So just one syllable yep.
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So so that's about it. That's all I got.
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Both Sharon Ringo are mostly known for their vocal performances,
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but both have had significant acting careers. And if you
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don't believe me.
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Go on IMDb snap out of it.
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Yep, exactly.
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Yeah.
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Moonstruck was awesome and has anybody ever seen any of Ringo's.
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Yeah, well I saw a part of that Thomas Okay, yeah.
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Bit aside from a hard Day's Night and help obviously
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the one and and the cameo that they the whole
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band did in Yellow Submarine, which had nothing to do
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with them really whatsoever. They were cartoons with other people using,
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you know, doing their voices, although Ringos said that the
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only complaint he had that he said, they made his
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nose too small. And let's and let's not forget Caveman, Caveman,
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Let's forget Caveman.
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Actually, yeah, that's the one.
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I was trying to remember the name of with Barbara Bah.
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Yeah. But there there was another film that I saw,
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and more recently than it came out, I think nineteen
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seventy three, because I just looked it up during you know,
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while we were listening to.
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The song, we had a discussion about this. Neil.
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Yes, it's called That'll Be the Day, and it was
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it was set in like you know, the early you know,
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almost you know, pre British invasion England, you know, like
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with Teddy Boys and mods and rockers and all that,
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and Ringo plays you know a well obviously it was
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a star by then, you know, pun intended, but he doesn't.
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It's not a it's not a major role. It's like
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a secondary or supporting role. I guess that's what I'm
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looking for.
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He was also in a film with Harry Nilsen that
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I don't know if we even got it over here.
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It didn't get much popularity. Son of Dracula, Oh yeah, yeah, I.
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Went along with the Son of Dracula album.
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Yeah, and I actually I saw that you know again
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much later on on you know, rental video and whatever.
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But yeah, yeah, I forgot about that. And it has
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a whole bunch of other you know, British rock stars
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in it, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, Keith Moon for one.
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But what was the other one? The other one? You
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and I were talking about The Magic Christian.
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Oh yeah, The Magic Christian, which is an awesome movie
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that nobody's ever heard of seen.
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Peter Sellers.
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Peter Sellers in it.
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Yeah, and it's and Gail you would like it because
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an actor is in it.
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Yeah, that's where the song, yes, the song you know
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things come full Circle is come and Get It. That's
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what that song you know by.
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Yeah, that was Lena McCartney.
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Yeah, that was there, I imagine a first hit, but
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it was the theme song from that movie. So yeah,
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it was basically the premise was that everyone has their
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price and and Peter Sellers plays like a you know,
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ultra rich guy, and Ringo is his protege.
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He like a dog because like the one of one
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of the first scenes of the movie is Peter Sellers
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is like signing a paper that you assume is like
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an adoption paper kind of type thing.
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00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:13.920
Right. Yeah, he was like his his youthful ward you know, yeah,
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sort of like Batman in alternate Universe. And yeah, it's
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it's full of surprises, a lot of cameos.
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It's very irreverent and offbeat humor as you would expect.
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And the final scene is just not to be believed.
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But it oh god.
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Yeah, and I am not going to spoil the more.
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I'm not going to spoil that.
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But but yeah, if you it's worth the price of admission.
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00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:45.360
I think it's on YouTube. You could just watch it whenever.
510
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True. Yeah, yeah, a.
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Lot of stuff.
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This is crazy. I'm just looking up the list of
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stuff that he was in. It's pretty wild.
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Yep.
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Well, let's not forget his directorial debut in Magical Mystery
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Tour or again. Yeah, let's forget that one too. Yeah,
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as far as Beatle Films, go you and as far
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as directing go Ringo, should you know he was a
519
00:38:11.559 --> 00:38:12.679
great drummer, Okay.
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I was just gonna say, I was gonna say, oh,
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he was a decent drummer.
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Yeah, yeah.
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John Lennon would say or had said, yeah, he wasn't
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even the best drummer and the Beatles, let alone the
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best drummer ever. So something along that line, which was
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typical Lenin and probably true too, because I believe Paul
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McCartney was he was he was able to play drums
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00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:38.960
pretty handily to mhmm. Yeah, I'd forgotten about The Magic Christian.
529
00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:40.239
That is a really good movie.
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Not but yeah, that's that's I was looking up something
531
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to play for this topic and I came across this
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and I went, what I share sang a song about Ringo?
533
00:38:55.320 --> 00:39:00.320
What you're mentioning? You had mentioned her her, you know,
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the the deepness of her voice. I always said that,
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you know Sonny and Cher who was actually Salvador Bono
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00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:12.760
as you mentioned, and that's obviously Sonny. Yeah, Sonny was
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the higher voice, you know, and she had the lower voice.
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Alto It's like you know.
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And they also released a record. It was a cover
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of Love Is strange. I don't know if it was
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a cover. I don't know who did it first, but
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they released it under the name of Caesar and Cleopatra. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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I think it was Ian and Sylvia. I think was
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the you know the people had you know, love Love
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is strange. Yeah, but that was that was also again
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using aliases for whatever reason. And I think it was
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00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:54.079
pre you know, Sonny and Cher, you know, having hits.
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00:39:55.440 --> 00:40:01.000
They were household names. Definitely very cool.
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Yeah, all right, thanks Barbara.
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I loved that one.
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Than next up we have Gail.
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What do you got for us?
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Okay?
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Well, as usual, I was looking for something kind of
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00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:25.400
unusual and just the type Uma Thurman, and it's by
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00:40:26.199 --> 00:40:31.519
American rock band fallout Boy. The song Uma Thurman was
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released digitally in January of twenty fifteen. And what I
558
00:40:38.639 --> 00:40:42.239
found really interesting and a little bit addictive about this
559
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is this song prominently features sampled theme music from the
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TV series The Monsters. Yeah, it was on from sixty
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four to sixty six, and the lyrics celebrate the actress
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Uma Thurman, who is famous for films such as Pulp
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Fiction and Kill Bill.
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Fall out Boy itself.
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Formed in will Mesh, Illinois, which is a suburb of
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Chicago in two thousand and one. The band consists of
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lead vocalist and rhythm guitarist Patrick Stump There's a Name
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00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:25.440
for You, bassist Pete Wentz, lead guitarist Joe Troman, and
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00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:33.360
drummer Andy Hurley. And they've been active since two thousand
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00:41:33.360 --> 00:41:37.639
and one, and apparently they're still going. And the song
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00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:42.519
itself was the fifth digital track released in a build
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00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:45.960
up to the band's twenty fifteen album, which was called
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American Beauty slash American Psycho, which sounds like kind of
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00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:56.280
an interesting combination if you ask me. It was released
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to modern rock radio as the album's third second in
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the US in early February. On March thirty first, twenty fifteen,
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Uma Thurman was released as the album's second US Top
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00:42:11.800 --> 00:42:22.159
forty single. Now they actually asked permission from Uma Thurman
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to use her name, and uh, she said she was
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00:42:31.239 --> 00:42:36.159
so flattered. She said, I'm so flattered. It's so nice.
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It's incredibly chivalrous. No one ever asks permission for anything anymore,
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so you don't even expect it. And the title Uma
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00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:52.639
Thurman is a reference to American actress Uma Thurman's character
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00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:58.719
Mia Wallace dancing with John Travolta's character Vincent Vega in
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a scene and help fiction the film. So let's have
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a listen, because it keeps mentioning she wants to dance
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like Uma Thurman, so that that's where that connection comes.
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00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:16.760
So let's have a listen.
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Dance. I can book a miracle book, a miracle.
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You like, get nothing, but.
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She wantsn't dance back. Isn't very made like? Can she
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00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:50.920
wantn't dance back?
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And I can't get you out of my head Sash.
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Stash the daughter of sex and see take way down
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to the smallest bee Boodshot bookshop and Potato your maid.
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Second book, A miracle book, a miracle you look at
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She wasn't dance spike fools and very maids.
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He like an confairs, she was a dance stick fool
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and sun And I can't.
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Get you out of my head.
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Lord Lord.
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The blood on the Lamb's worth too Relias not here
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of them and slept in last night, close into my
604
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rose streams but not quite.
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What they say.
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Mount Dance.
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I can book a miracle book, a miracle get nothing,
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find away.
609
00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:51.440
I guess down jump city, She'll find a guess Jim City, she.
610
00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:57.840
Wasn't dance back as every baby meating, I can assass she.
611
00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:01.840
Wantn't dance back o us I can't get so out
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00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:13.440
of my hair, kept nothing.
613
00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:25.920
Nothing.
614
00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:46.119
So I think that's kind of cute.
615
00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:50.480
That was I like that energy. I always liked that song.
616
00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:53.400
Yeah, all of a sudden, there comes to monsters out
617
00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:54.880
of nowhere. I said, that's wild.
618
00:46:55.199 --> 00:46:59.239
Well, when I was researching this, I found out that
619
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:03.679
bassist and lyricist Pete Wentz stated.
620
00:47:04.800 --> 00:47:07.159
This was a fun song to write.
621
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:09.920
Originally when we came up with the idea and there
622
00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:12.920
was this sample in it, which is a sample from
623
00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:17.719
the Monster's TV show, people kept saying, oh, cool, like
624
00:47:17.840 --> 00:47:21.400
Quentin Tarantino cool when they heard it. Now, I don't
625
00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:27.159
understand a connection between Quentin Tarantino in the months.
626
00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:33.239
Maybe because well, in the movie Uma Thurman is doing
627
00:47:33.519 --> 00:47:39.480
the batusi, which was Batman. So yeah, to use the
628
00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:43.280
monsters instead of Batman, I mean that would have Batman
629
00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:44.440
would have been the more appropriate.
630
00:47:44.599 --> 00:47:46.960
Yeah, yeah, you would think, but I don't know.
631
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:53.719
Recently, Rob Zombie remade a film about the monsters and
632
00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:54.760
I didn't see it.
633
00:47:54.960 --> 00:47:59.880
And that's fun. I mean, you know, was was it,
634
00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:03.239
you know, really reminiscent of us.
635
00:48:03.360 --> 00:48:06.679
Then again, younger generation may not know the Monsters and
636
00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:08.960
it does have a similar style to the Batman theme.
637
00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:12.719
Maybe they just got that. Yeah it's got that go
638
00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:14.159
go music kind.
639
00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:16.119
Of a little bit surfy kind of sound.
640
00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:20.679
Yeah, yeah, that there could be. Yeah, that just you know,
641
00:48:21.239 --> 00:48:25.719
confusion because again not being around at the time like
642
00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:31.320
in the sixties when I was again, that was prime
643
00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:34.760
time for me. Those both those shows Monsters and oh
644
00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:38.119
total Batman, not to mention the Adams Family, Yeah, and
645
00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:40.760
there for good measure and like a cool theme song.
646
00:48:41.280 --> 00:48:45.079
But yeah, that that was that was That was like
647
00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:46.519
my demographic, you know.
648
00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:49.400
And the thing now is when I was a kid,
649
00:48:49.519 --> 00:48:52.039
we only had a black and white TV. Yeah, and
650
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:54.960
now when I watched Batman reruns, I watched them because
651
00:48:55.400 --> 00:48:59.599
oh my god, those sixties clothing and uh, I sit
652
00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:02.519
there and I drool and my husband looks at me
653
00:49:02.639 --> 00:49:03.320
like you're crazy.
654
00:49:03.559 --> 00:49:07.599
Well, but all those all those colors were like they
655
00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:09.880
were so bright. It was like it was like a
656
00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:12.679
comic book like that was you know, to be that bright.
657
00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:13.360
That's like.
658
00:49:14.840 --> 00:49:16.159
The pow whams, you know.
659
00:49:16.239 --> 00:49:19.199
And orange and pink dresses, those girls.
660
00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:20.239
That's like my favorite.
661
00:49:20.679 --> 00:49:24.679
Yeah, domination are just like when Dark Shadows reruns when
662
00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:26.760
they went over to color.
663
00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:29.320
Oh my gosh, those sixties fashions.
664
00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:30.280
Mm hmm.
665
00:49:31.039 --> 00:49:34.960
Carolyn Stoddard wearing you know, the white go go boots
666
00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:35.639
all the time.
667
00:49:36.280 --> 00:49:40.559
I liked uh Maggie's pants, like the coulottes she had,
668
00:49:40.639 --> 00:49:42.679
like Thosette.
669
00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:43.480
Pants that were all different colors.
670
00:49:43.800 --> 00:49:44.000
Right.
671
00:49:44.280 --> 00:49:49.079
Yeah, So Pete Wentz continues, you know, when he was
672
00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:54.559
talking about the the theme and the Tarantino, he said,
673
00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:57.159
we decided, why don't we create a world around that.
674
00:49:58.039 --> 00:50:01.440
To me, Uma Thurman and Winona, they were these women
675
00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:04.920
in pop culture who were quirky, but that made me
676
00:50:05.039 --> 00:50:09.599
only crush on them harder, and rather going with the
677
00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:13.079
traditional Uma themon roll, we thought a lot about kill
678
00:50:13.159 --> 00:50:16.360
Bill and who her character was in that and this
679
00:50:16.559 --> 00:50:20.199
kind of resilience and this violence. But there's something that's
680
00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:24.400
authentic about it, like a woman taking revenge or being empowered.
681
00:50:25.119 --> 00:50:28.159
So that's what the chorus of the song's about. In
682
00:50:28.280 --> 00:50:31.639
other words, with bursts of verbiage like I can move mountains,
683
00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:34.880
I can work a miracle, and the verses are what
684
00:50:35.119 --> 00:50:38.400
you would do to try and capture this woman's affection.
685
00:50:39.679 --> 00:50:41.159
So that's my choice.
686
00:50:41.760 --> 00:50:42.440
Good choice.
687
00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:43.159
Thank you.
688
00:50:43.639 --> 00:50:49.440
Can I just say that I just googled Tarantino and
689
00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:50.159
the Monsters.
690
00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:55.000
That's really curious, and this is what it says.
691
00:50:55.679 --> 00:50:59.079
There is no known direct connection between Quentin Tarantino and
692
00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:02.239
the Monsters. However, there are a couple of points of
693
00:51:02.360 --> 00:51:10.639
confusion or tangential tangent yeah references. Rob Zombie directed a
694
00:51:10.719 --> 00:51:15.199
two thousand and twenty twenty two Monsters reboot, and Quentin
695
00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:19.840
Tarantino was incorrectly mentioned in an online comment about the
696
00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:27.519
original show's longevity. Additionally, there is a song by Additionally,
697
00:51:27.639 --> 00:51:31.239
there is a song by the Uma Thurman which uses
698
00:51:31.559 --> 00:51:36.119
a sample of the Munsters theme and mentioned Tarantino.
699
00:51:38.960 --> 00:51:41.800
Kind of like what was It's like the Mandela effect
700
00:51:41.960 --> 00:51:42.920
something that happen.
701
00:51:42.960 --> 00:51:45.639
Oh yeah, the way people people remember it wrong?
702
00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:49.960
Yeah, okay, thank you.
703
00:51:50.840 --> 00:51:51.400
Interesting.
704
00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:54.800
Yeah, Well, just to go back on what I was
705
00:51:54.800 --> 00:51:57.079
saying a little bit early about how they're saying, you know,
706
00:51:57.239 --> 00:52:00.920
like Uma Thurman and Wenona Rye, where they're like, you know,
707
00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:03.840
pretty much like their boyhood crushes, I go back with,
708
00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:09.000
you know, Lily Munster and Mortitia Adams, those are that's
709
00:52:09.079 --> 00:52:10.480
what made this little.
710
00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:13.280
Yeah, I'm not surprised.
711
00:52:13.599 --> 00:52:16.480
Yeah, and we still do to this day. That's the
712
00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:17.159
crazy part.
713
00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:20.519
As a little girl, those were the women I wanted
714
00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:20.800
to be.
715
00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:26.480
Yeah, I thought they were so beautiful. Yeah, it's a
716
00:52:26.599 --> 00:52:29.039
little girl. I wanted to look like them.
717
00:52:29.239 --> 00:52:30.559
I really do, me too.
718
00:52:31.639 --> 00:52:34.199
I wanted to walk around with those clippers clipping off
719
00:52:34.280 --> 00:52:34.719
the rose.
720
00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:38.360
Yeah, for sure.
721
00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:39.159
I know.
722
00:52:40.119 --> 00:52:43.960
One of my coworkers has this philodendron that's growing so
723
00:52:44.199 --> 00:52:47.440
much it's like growing up in the office all over
724
00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:50.760
the one wall where she is and climbing up the window.
725
00:52:51.280 --> 00:52:54.039
And I told her she should name it Cleopatra because
726
00:52:54.079 --> 00:52:58.559
it wasn't that Martitia Adams's plant that you reach out
727
00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:00.719
and touch someone as.
728
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Well.
729
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Thanks Gale, that was great you. We're gonna take another
730
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break real quick and we'll be right back with more
731
00:53:11.280 --> 00:53:13.840
cool songs about cool actors.
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Lutgen Riverradio dot com Hudson River Radio dot com.
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We're back.
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We're back with more rock and roll history show. See
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I know what show I'm on now. We're talking about
736
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songs about actors and we are. We got one more.
737
00:53:43.320 --> 00:53:46.000
We're up to Brian one more. I got wait, I
738
00:53:46.079 --> 00:53:48.679
got a double for you though, Okay, all right, So
739
00:53:49.519 --> 00:53:52.239
I went old school and way more innocent than some
740
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of you did. We're gonna be talking about a track
741
00:53:55.360 --> 00:53:59.559
off of Elton John's seventh studio album, Goodbye Yellow Brick Road,
742
00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:02.639
which came out in nineteen seventy three. Elton is now
743
00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:05.440
seventy eight, mostly retired, but he still pops up and
744
00:54:05.679 --> 00:54:09.880
he's active. He put out thirty two studio albums over
745
00:54:09.960 --> 00:54:13.039
his career, not counting live stuff, which is just amazing.
746
00:54:13.519 --> 00:54:16.960
He sold over three hundred million albums. And if you
747
00:54:17.000 --> 00:54:19.039
don't know who Elton John is by now, you're listening
748
00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:19.800
to the wrong sholf.
749
00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:20.559
So what can I say?
750
00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:24.119
So we're not even going to go into that. The
751
00:54:24.239 --> 00:54:27.000
album Goodbye Yellow Brick Road includes the hits Candle in
752
00:54:27.079 --> 00:54:30.400
the Wind, which, depending on which generation you're from, is
753
00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:33.079
either about Marilyn Monroe or Princess Diana. But it's about
754
00:54:33.119 --> 00:54:35.840
Marilyn Monroe, so get over it, Benny and the Jets,
755
00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:38.239
Saturday Nights all Right for Fighting, and the title track
756
00:54:38.280 --> 00:54:41.480
good By Yellow Brick Road. Bernie Taupin wrote the lyrics
757
00:54:41.559 --> 00:54:44.280
for the entire album in less than three weeks, and
758
00:54:44.400 --> 00:54:47.719
then Elton composed the melody and most of the music
759
00:54:47.800 --> 00:54:48.840
in about three days.
760
00:54:49.360 --> 00:54:50.599
Can you even imagine?
761
00:54:51.039 --> 00:54:54.960
No, that is insane, It's crazy. I'd never heard that
762
00:54:55.119 --> 00:54:55.719
fact before.
763
00:54:56.000 --> 00:54:58.840
I had to replace the truck bed cover in my
764
00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:01.119
pickup and it took me three days to pick which
765
00:55:01.159 --> 00:55:04.639
one I was going to order in the time that
766
00:55:04.760 --> 00:55:08.559
Eldon wrote the music for a complete album. So no,
767
00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:11.480
I can't imagine doing that. But that's why Elton's Elton.
768
00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:16.559
Bernie Taupin is a big fan of American Western movies
769
00:55:16.599 --> 00:55:20.760
and TV shows. His family nicknamed him the Brown Dirt Cowboy,
770
00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:25.559
which is a weird nickname, but okay, but they used that.
771
00:55:25.960 --> 00:55:27.360
I'm not going to go there, Yeah.
772
00:55:27.199 --> 00:55:28.280
Don't now.
773
00:55:28.360 --> 00:55:32.239
I understand the other album title, which I never understood.
774
00:55:31.840 --> 00:55:35.159
Captain Fantastic and the Brown Dirt Cowboy. Yup, that's where
775
00:55:35.199 --> 00:55:37.480
they got that from. That was Bernie's nickname as a kid.
776
00:55:37.599 --> 00:55:41.000
You are correct, speaking of cowboys. One of the tracks
777
00:55:41.119 --> 00:55:43.719
on Goodbye Yellow Brick Road is about a guy who
778
00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:46.840
was known as the King of Cowboys, someone who was
779
00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:52.360
never actually a cowboy, Roy Rogers. Depending on your generation,
780
00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:54.239
you may or may not know who I'm talking about.
781
00:55:55.199 --> 00:55:59.360
Roy Rogers was born Leonard Franklin sly Back in nineteen
782
00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:04.000
eleven in Cincinnati, Ohio. The tenement apartment where he lived
783
00:56:04.039 --> 00:56:07.239
would later be demolished to make room for Riverfront Stadium,
784
00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:10.679
which was there until two thousand and two. He would
785
00:56:10.679 --> 00:56:13.639
always joke that he was born on second Base because
786
00:56:13.880 --> 00:56:16.639
that's about where his apartment was after the stadium was built.
787
00:56:17.639 --> 00:56:19.840
When he was one year old, his father decided to
788
00:56:19.920 --> 00:56:22.800
move the family out of the city, so he and
789
00:56:23.000 --> 00:56:27.519
his brother, Roy's uncle built a houseboat out of salvaged lumber,
790
00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:31.039
sailed it up the Ohio River, and they bought land
791
00:56:31.119 --> 00:56:33.800
in Portsmouth, Ohio, where they planned to build a house.
792
00:56:34.320 --> 00:56:37.880
But then there was the Great Flood of nineteen thirteen,
793
00:56:38.440 --> 00:56:41.519
which floated the boat all the way onto land, so
794
00:56:41.719 --> 00:56:50.159
the houseboat just became the house conveniently, believe it or not. Wow, right,
795
00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:54.079
it's a terrible disaster that I guess for them worked
796
00:56:54.119 --> 00:56:57.599
out pretty well, So there you go, silver lining. Yeah,
797
00:56:58.440 --> 00:57:01.320
his father father was a very hard worker. They later
798
00:57:01.519 --> 00:57:04.480
moved to a farm, and to supplement the family income,
799
00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:08.119
his father took a job in a shoe factory. He
800
00:57:08.159 --> 00:57:10.400
would work at the factory during the week, then come
801
00:57:10.480 --> 00:57:12.280
home on the weekends and try to run the farm.
802
00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:15.159
He would always bring gifts for the kids. One of
803
00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:19.039
those gifts was a horse, which is how Leonard Slash
804
00:57:19.159 --> 00:57:21.559
later Roy learned how to ride a horse. That was
805
00:57:21.599 --> 00:57:24.719
a gift from his father. Wow, they didn't have a radio,
806
00:57:24.920 --> 00:57:27.559
and instead they would invite the neighbors over for square
807
00:57:27.679 --> 00:57:32.840
dances and len as he was known, Leonard lenn learned
808
00:57:32.840 --> 00:57:35.480
the mandolin and he would sing and call out the dances,
809
00:57:35.559 --> 00:57:37.400
you know, the two and fro and docy does and
810
00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:38.800
all that kind of stuff. You learned how to do
811
00:57:38.920 --> 00:57:40.880
that as a kid, and he would just call out
812
00:57:40.920 --> 00:57:43.760
the dances for the neighbors. He dropped out of high
813
00:57:43.760 --> 00:57:47.239
school after his sophomore year to help the family financially.
814
00:57:47.920 --> 00:57:50.360
He tried to go to night school afterwards, but would
815
00:57:50.920 --> 00:57:53.639
keep falling asleep because he would work all day and
816
00:57:53.719 --> 00:57:55.800
then sit down in a classroom and just nod off,
817
00:57:55.920 --> 00:57:59.000
and the other classmates would make fun of him, so
818
00:57:59.079 --> 00:58:02.000
he just gave up and drop out permanently. One of
819
00:58:02.079 --> 00:58:04.280
his sisters got married and moved out to California in
820
00:58:04.360 --> 00:58:07.320
nineteen twenty nine. The whole family went out to visit,
821
00:58:07.719 --> 00:58:11.000
and then the whole family went out to move to California.
822
00:58:11.199 --> 00:58:13.880
Following this, son's sister. Yeah, I guess they liked it
823
00:58:13.960 --> 00:58:17.920
that much. Len got a drop, Lenn slash Roy got
824
00:58:17.960 --> 00:58:20.599
a job driving a gravel truck, and then he picked
825
00:58:20.679 --> 00:58:23.320
peaches for the del Monte Company, which is still around.
826
00:58:24.039 --> 00:58:26.239
The Great Depression hit and it was just tough for
827
00:58:26.320 --> 00:58:29.679
everybody across the board at this time. Growing up, Len
828
00:58:29.880 --> 00:58:32.320
was notably shy. When he was nine years old, his
829
00:58:32.440 --> 00:58:35.679
sister encouraged him to audition for a local radio program
830
00:58:36.199 --> 00:58:39.360
called Midnight Frolic. Lenn was already a musician and he
831
00:58:39.400 --> 00:58:41.599
would perform, but face to face, he was a shy kid.
832
00:58:42.199 --> 00:58:44.000
But he sucked it up. He went on the air
833
00:58:44.079 --> 00:58:46.400
and he sang and he yodeled and he played guitar,
834
00:58:47.039 --> 00:58:48.880
and that got him a gig with a local group
835
00:58:48.960 --> 00:58:52.039
called the Rocky Mountaineers. He was in a bunch of
836
00:58:52.079 --> 00:58:56.079
different groups on regular radio shows. Back in nineteen thirty three,
837
00:58:56.360 --> 00:59:00.239
he helped form the Pioneer's Trio with two friends. Again
838
00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:02.599
this is time, I've said it many times before, back
839
00:59:02.639 --> 00:59:07.119
when local radio was the thing that was celebrity status,
840
00:59:07.199 --> 00:59:09.960
you know. So he performed the Pioneer's Trio with two
841
00:59:10.039 --> 00:59:12.920
friends and the name got changed to Sons of the
842
00:59:13.000 --> 00:59:16.360
Pioneers for two reasons. One, a radio announcer said that
843
00:59:16.400 --> 00:59:19.159
they were too young to be actual Pioneers, so he
844
00:59:19.280 --> 00:59:24.760
made them sons. And two they added more bands band members,
845
00:59:24.800 --> 00:59:26.639
so they were no longer a trio, so they couldn't
846
00:59:26.679 --> 00:59:29.800
really sell themselves as a trio, so they became Yeah,
847
00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:33.280
Sons of the Pioneers, but it worked out. Side note,
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one of the other members would be actor, singer musician
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00:59:37.719 --> 00:59:41.159
Sug Fisher, who, among a ton of other roles, would
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00:59:41.280 --> 00:59:45.159
voice Uncle Pico on Tom and Jerry and sing Crambone
851
00:59:46.079 --> 00:59:48.480
the song you know where the guitar string keeps popping
852
00:59:48.599 --> 00:59:51.800
and he yanks out Tom's whiskers different and that's where
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00:59:51.840 --> 00:59:55.800
we crambones come from. See it all comes back around.
854
00:59:57.679 --> 01:00:00.000
So the Sons of the Pioneers became a national success
855
01:00:00.280 --> 01:00:04.360
and signed with Decca Records. Lenn still going by Leonard Sly,
856
01:00:04.599 --> 01:00:07.960
got his first acting role in nineteen thirty five. Gene
857
01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:10.239
Autry was the big Western star at the time. We
858
01:00:10.360 --> 01:00:13.800
talked about gene Autry. He sang Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer.
859
01:00:13.880 --> 01:00:15.320
He was the first one to do that. Here comes
860
01:00:15.320 --> 01:00:18.440
Santa Claus. We talked about him on the Christmas shows. Well,
861
01:00:19.199 --> 01:00:22.159
excuse me. As he got more popular, he demanded more
862
01:00:22.199 --> 01:00:25.880
money for his roles, so a competing movie studio decided
863
01:00:25.920 --> 01:00:29.079
to hold auditions for a new singing cowboy who they
864
01:00:29.119 --> 01:00:32.599
could pay much less than what gene Autry wanted. Guess
865
01:00:32.599 --> 01:00:38.000
who won, Leonard Sly. He became the new singing cowboy,
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01:00:38.199 --> 01:00:40.800
and the studio gave him the new name Roy Rogers
867
01:00:41.440 --> 01:00:44.920
because Roy sounded like a Western kind of name, okay,
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01:00:45.639 --> 01:00:50.000
and Rogers was from the famous entertainer Will Rogers. You know,
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01:00:50.159 --> 01:00:51.760
I mean never met a man. I didn't like that
870
01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:54.039
kind of thing. If you don't know Will Rogers, you
871
01:00:54.039 --> 01:00:56.920
can hop over to one of our other podcasts, Classic
872
01:00:57.039 --> 01:01:00.840
Radio Theater, because there's some of Will rogers old performances
873
01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:02.960
on there. You can scroll back. His humor did not
874
01:01:03.039 --> 01:01:05.880
hold up very well, but he was very, very popular.
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01:01:07.519 --> 01:01:09.760
He was, so we're back to Roy. Roy was a
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01:01:09.800 --> 01:01:13.079
huge success in Western films, a popular TV show, records,
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01:01:13.320 --> 01:01:17.199
merchandise during and well after World War Two into the
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01:01:17.719 --> 01:01:20.760
late nineteen fifties. He had a clause in his studio
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01:01:20.840 --> 01:01:23.639
contract where he retained rights to his likeness, his voice,
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01:01:24.039 --> 01:01:27.599
his stage name Roy Rogers, all for merchandising, and there
881
01:01:27.760 --> 01:01:32.360
was a lot of Roy Rogers merchandise, second only to
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01:01:32.519 --> 01:01:36.719
Walt Disney. Wow, right, so that's pretty big.
883
01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:39.519
I feel like I remember some of that stuff.
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01:01:39.519 --> 01:01:40.599
Oh, I remember.
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01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:44.000
Lunchboxes, the action figures, Trigger, his horse.
886
01:01:44.639 --> 01:01:50.599
I actually have a and Roy Rogers' doll. His legs
887
01:01:50.639 --> 01:01:52.639
are kind of U shaped so that he could fit
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01:01:52.719 --> 01:01:56.159
on the horse. Yeah, that belonged to my late first husband.
889
01:01:56.199 --> 01:01:57.000
I still have them.
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01:01:57.119 --> 01:01:58.760
Yeah, cowboy legs.
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01:01:58.960 --> 01:02:02.119
Cowboy legs. And if you post a picture, it's remember
892
01:02:02.159 --> 01:02:03.239
to get your prostay check.
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01:02:06.039 --> 01:02:06.280
Yep.
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01:02:07.199 --> 01:02:09.559
Yeah, and Trigger was a big part of all that merchandising.
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His horse, Trigger, who will talk about in a second.
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01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:15.840
So Roy kept the Sons of the Pioneers going. Even
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01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:18.880
as members drop dead, he would just replace them with
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01:02:19.000 --> 01:02:21.800
new ones and keep the Pioneers going. They would be
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01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:24.760
his backup group in the movies where he was front
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01:02:24.840 --> 01:02:27.159
man singing, and then he would have Sons of the
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01:02:27.199 --> 01:02:30.800
Pioneer singing in the back. Roy would perform live with
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01:02:31.000 --> 01:02:34.400
them every once in a while. He married his first wife, Grace,
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01:02:34.480 --> 01:02:36.840
in nineteen thirty six, after she called in to a
904
01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:40.559
radio station in New Mexico where he was performing Good
905
01:02:40.599 --> 01:02:44.239
for her. She yeah, she took the initiative. I'll give
906
01:02:44.239 --> 01:02:46.760
her that. She promised to make them a pie and
907
01:02:46.840 --> 01:02:52.079
then she did. Cute. Yeah, they adopted a daughter. They
908
01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:54.639
had another daughter of their own before Grace died of
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01:02:54.760 --> 01:02:59.039
natural causes. He later married actress Dale Evans, and they
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01:02:59.159 --> 01:03:03.119
ran children's They were advocates for adoption for homeless children,
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01:03:03.199 --> 01:03:06.079
for disabled children. Back when you know, if you had
912
01:03:06.119 --> 01:03:08.159
a severely disabled child, they would tell you to drop
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01:03:08.239 --> 01:03:11.000
them at an institution and forget they existed, which I
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01:03:11.079 --> 01:03:17.039
cannot even imagine. So hats off to them. They had
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01:03:17.079 --> 01:03:19.440
a child of their own. They adopted four more on
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01:03:19.559 --> 01:03:19.960
top of that.
917
01:03:20.559 --> 01:03:21.360
Wow yep.
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01:03:22.119 --> 01:03:25.119
So Roy and Dale settled in Apple Valley, California, where
919
01:03:25.159 --> 01:03:28.159
they opened a museum, the Roy Rogers Dale Evans Museum,
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01:03:28.800 --> 01:03:31.480
where they would display all the memorabilia from the movies,
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01:03:31.480 --> 01:03:33.679
all that kind of stuff. The museum would move twice,
922
01:03:34.280 --> 01:03:38.360
landing the last time in Branson, Missouri, and it closed
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01:03:38.400 --> 01:03:40.800
in two thousand and nine as both the economy tanked
924
01:03:40.840 --> 01:03:44.159
in two thousand and eight and frankly, their popularity and
925
01:03:44.199 --> 01:03:47.360
people who knew where they were were starting to ride
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01:03:47.400 --> 01:03:49.960
off into the sunset. Shall we say as on their own.
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01:03:51.119 --> 01:03:54.320
One of the biggest attractions was his horse Trigger, who
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01:03:54.639 --> 01:03:57.960
was long dead and very stuffed and very much put
929
01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:01.599
on display as a giant stuffed ho oh my gosh.
930
01:04:01.519 --> 01:04:04.880
Yeah, I remember. You know. It caused a bit of
931
01:04:04.920 --> 01:04:07.360
an a bit of a stir when that happened.
932
01:04:07.559 --> 01:04:09.920
Yeah, he was quoted saying he couldn't let the worms
933
01:04:09.960 --> 01:04:12.840
get to Trigger or something along those lines. So, yeah,
934
01:04:12.880 --> 01:04:14.079
he had them stuffed instead.
935
01:04:14.320 --> 01:04:15.440
Wasn't Trigger a girl?
936
01:04:15.760 --> 01:04:18.039
No, No, Trigger was the horse. Dale Evans was the
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01:04:18.079 --> 01:04:18.519
girl I.
938
01:04:18.599 --> 01:04:18.960
Know, I know.
939
01:04:19.719 --> 01:04:21.400
Wasn't enough female horse.
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01:04:21.599 --> 01:04:24.400
Oh it could be. I don't know him her, really,
941
01:04:25.119 --> 01:04:27.960
I have not seen Trigger stuffed, and I would not
942
01:04:28.119 --> 01:04:31.639
think to check the undercarriage myself. I don't know if
943
01:04:31.679 --> 01:04:33.119
they stuffed everything or.
944
01:04:34.639 --> 01:04:34.960
I don't know.
945
01:04:35.079 --> 01:04:38.039
I left off made it more family friendly.
946
01:04:38.159 --> 01:04:43.119
They didn't have enough stuffing, is you know? Yeah, edit
947
01:04:43.199 --> 01:04:43.480
that out.
948
01:04:43.480 --> 01:04:45.519
I'm sorry, It's okay, We're going to move on. Yeah,
949
01:04:48.199 --> 01:04:50.760
all right. So, starting in nineteen sixty eight, Roy Rogers
950
01:04:50.880 --> 01:04:54.199
licensed his stage name to the Marriott Corporation, which rebranded
951
01:04:54.239 --> 01:04:58.079
their restaurants into the Roy Rogers Restaurants, which I remember seeing.
952
01:04:58.760 --> 01:04:59.480
I remember seeing.
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01:04:59.519 --> 01:05:00.920
I he never went into one.
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01:05:01.199 --> 01:05:01.800
I've never been.
955
01:05:02.320 --> 01:05:03.800
No, neither was he.
956
01:05:04.079 --> 01:05:06.280
He had absolutely nothing to do with them other than
957
01:05:06.360 --> 01:05:10.320
catching the checks for using his name. So we're apparently
958
01:05:10.559 --> 01:05:14.400
team Roy Rogers, not team Restaurant. He would perform and
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01:05:14.480 --> 01:05:17.039
make appearances up until his death in nineteen ninety eight
960
01:05:17.159 --> 01:05:19.719
at age eighty six. He has a ton of awards,
961
01:05:19.800 --> 01:05:22.039
too minute to go over for his charity work and
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01:05:22.199 --> 01:05:25.239
for show biz. He has three stars on the Hollywood
963
01:05:25.239 --> 01:05:28.239
Walk of Fame. He was inducted twice into the Country
964
01:05:28.320 --> 01:05:30.480
Music Hall of Fame as part of the Sons of
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01:05:30.559 --> 01:05:34.079
the Pioneers and as a solo performer. The Roy Rogers
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01:05:34.119 --> 01:05:36.840
Show was a very popular radio show and then a
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01:05:36.920 --> 01:05:40.360
popular TV show. He and Dale would end each episode
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01:05:40.440 --> 01:05:43.679
with a song that Dale wrote called Happy Trails, which
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01:05:43.840 --> 01:05:47.639
this year was inducted into the National Recording Registry, which
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01:05:48.159 --> 01:05:51.880
for its significance. It's a historical significance. So I thought
971
01:05:51.880 --> 01:05:53.480
we'd give it a spin. Let's give a listen to
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01:05:53.719 --> 01:05:54.480
Happy Trails.
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01:05:56.400 --> 01:06:10.440
Happy You until le me again have betrayed? Still you
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01:06:12.880 --> 01:06:13.880
keeps love.
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01:06:15.559 --> 01:06:15.920
To me?
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01:06:18.199 --> 01:06:22.519
Who cares about the clouds? When we're to get other
977
01:06:23.320 --> 01:06:27.559
las sing a song and bring the sunny away? Other
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01:06:28.639 --> 01:06:30.280
have betrayed.
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01:06:31.159 --> 01:06:32.000
Still you.
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01:06:33.960 --> 01:07:24.719
Tell me, but again happ betrayed.
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01:07:25.760 --> 01:07:26.519
To you.
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01:07:29.039 --> 01:07:35.800
Until we'll be again and betrayed.
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01:07:36.880 --> 01:07:37.519
To you.
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01:07:40.039 --> 01:07:47.840
Keep smad enough delay who cares about the us one?
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01:07:47.960 --> 01:07:48.800
Where you go.
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01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:58.000
Singing a song and bringing the song? Way have betrayed.
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01:07:59.119 --> 01:08:02.599
To de me?
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01:08:07.719 --> 01:08:14.800
Who cares about the clouds when we're too gay? Just
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01:08:15.159 --> 01:08:23.119
sing a song and bring my Sonny wed betrayed.
990
01:08:34.359 --> 01:08:38.199
So I went digging for Roy Rogers dirt. Came up
991
01:08:38.319 --> 01:08:42.720
nothing just by all accounts, seems to be legit true gentleman.
992
01:08:42.840 --> 01:08:45.000
He and Dale, all the charity work, all the stuff
993
01:08:45.039 --> 01:08:47.840
he did, could not find anything bad. And how often
994
01:08:47.880 --> 01:08:49.039
do you you hear that?
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01:08:49.359 --> 01:08:50.199
You know exactly?
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01:08:50.279 --> 01:08:52.479
Which I think is pretty cool he did if you
997
01:08:52.560 --> 01:08:54.399
have time to go down the rabbit hole. He did
998
01:08:54.439 --> 01:08:57.640
an interview on the Old David Letterman Show, like the original,
999
01:08:58.560 --> 01:09:01.079
you know, old set. I don't even know Paul Shaffer
1000
01:09:01.199 --> 01:09:04.560
was there yet, kind of old, and you know, Roy's
1001
01:09:04.600 --> 01:09:06.880
dressed up in the cowboy out and he's older. At
1002
01:09:06.920 --> 01:09:09.039
this point, I think his popularity he's kind of waning.
1003
01:09:09.399 --> 01:09:11.520
And you could just tell he was so grateful just
1004
01:09:11.600 --> 01:09:14.239
to be there and like to have the acknowledgement and
1005
01:09:14.239 --> 01:09:16.000
all that stuff, and was happy to tell the stories,
1006
01:09:16.039 --> 01:09:20.439
and so it was pretty cool. So Letterman was a fan.
1007
01:09:20.720 --> 01:09:23.279
Bernie Taupin was a fan like I mentioned, and so
1008
01:09:23.560 --> 01:09:26.399
is Elton fan of Roy Rogers. So they wrote the
1009
01:09:26.520 --> 01:09:31.439
song titled Roy Rogers for Goodbye Yellow Brick Road. I
1010
01:09:31.520 --> 01:09:33.399
don't know how much more of an introduction I can
1011
01:09:33.479 --> 01:09:35.840
give to a song about Roy Rogers by Elton John.
1012
01:09:36.279 --> 01:09:37.319
So let's play.
1013
01:09:39.359 --> 01:09:54.720
Sometimes sometimes scenes there's nothing there, you see much than yesterday,
1014
01:09:56.560 --> 01:09:57.760
and you waited.
1015
01:10:02.760 --> 01:10:08.840
The drought, the curtains and one things to say, you're
1016
01:10:08.960 --> 01:10:11.119
close in your in the room.
1017
01:10:14.680 --> 01:10:19.000
The compsy for got less the TV.
1018
01:10:20.399 --> 01:10:23.960
Let's go shoot a hood the moon.
1019
01:10:25.279 --> 01:10:35.960
As in ritime, returning to our self screen.
1020
01:10:38.600 --> 01:10:48.560
Comment characters ever rule illain a hero star is the
1021
01:10:48.720 --> 01:10:50.000
tone all the.
1022
01:10:50.239 --> 01:10:56.960
Radzic when gwar who sings out the planes around us
1023
01:10:57.640 --> 01:11:10.239
and wrestlers and all my right, turn off the teasing, shut.
1024
01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:16.760
Out the lights. What a rider is a rityn.
1025
01:11:27.680 --> 01:11:32.800
Dyna clock born ms five hour o'clock em ens.
1026
01:11:33.479 --> 01:11:40.920
I live on the basis vicer water the ham. I
1027
01:11:41.119 --> 01:11:47.760
had my sound with cheers, but complain and what do man?
1028
01:11:48.079 --> 01:11:48.800
My good.
1029
01:11:51.079 --> 01:11:56.359
Leaves back in my arm chair, those eyes sinklar.
1030
01:11:57.560 --> 01:12:07.000
I can hear these deeds the hand rodriger having just t.
1031
01:12:07.479 --> 01:12:11.199
The huge while wipe the kid.
1032
01:12:11.520 --> 01:12:24.319
Sarg sat riding to line, returning to our self. Screen
1033
01:12:27.279 --> 01:12:32.079
comic characters never gold.
1034
01:12:33.159 --> 01:12:35.640
Ella Mena heroes.
1035
01:12:35.560 --> 01:12:39.399
Who start Joe all the bad.
1036
01:12:39.399 --> 01:12:44.279
Segment come sings out the lines.
1037
01:12:44.800 --> 01:12:55.920
Around us and whistlers and about the rise, turn off.
1038
01:12:56.520 --> 01:12:59.720
TV, shut out the lie.
1039
01:13:29.600 --> 01:13:32.880
I like a little little hint of the accent there,
1040
01:13:33.039 --> 01:13:40.640
the English slash Southern American accent como. That's tough to do. So, Neil,
1041
01:13:40.680 --> 01:13:43.199
you had some Happy Trails right right?
1042
01:13:43.359 --> 01:13:46.039
Yeah, No, when when you brought this up, I was
1043
01:13:46.600 --> 01:13:52.680
remembering there's a San Francisco band from late sixties. Their
1044
01:13:52.720 --> 01:13:56.880
second LP was called Happy Trails. The band was Quicksilver
1045
01:13:57.039 --> 01:14:01.760
Messenger Service. Oh oh yeah, as say, their second album
1046
01:14:01.880 --> 01:14:05.319
was Cold Happy Trails, and at the end of the
1047
01:14:05.600 --> 01:14:08.199
album they kind of they don't do like a whole thing.
1048
01:14:08.239 --> 01:14:11.159
They kind of like do an homage to it. It's
1049
01:14:11.239 --> 01:14:13.960
the Dale Evans song. It's you know, it's it's you know,
1050
01:14:15.119 --> 01:14:16.840
the right song, but they don't, you know, they kind
1051
01:14:16.840 --> 01:14:20.439
of fade out with it. Anyway. I always thought it
1052
01:14:20.520 --> 01:14:26.520
was funny because Happy Trails, well, especially back then, you know,
1053
01:14:26.840 --> 01:14:33.920
late sixties early seventies, trails was a euphemism for how
1054
01:14:34.000 --> 01:14:40.199
can I put the psychedelic hallucinogenic experience that one would
1055
01:14:40.279 --> 01:14:45.600
have if I can maybe if you waved your arm
1056
01:14:45.680 --> 01:14:48.640
across you know, you wave your arm across, you.
1057
01:14:48.640 --> 01:14:52.720
Know, way you can try to explain a trail.
1058
01:14:53.840 --> 01:14:55.800
Hang on and say yeah, and it kind of has
1059
01:14:55.840 --> 01:14:59.640
this like repeating effect, kind of like like dominoes, you know.
1060
01:15:00.159 --> 01:15:03.359
And yeah. It was not that I know this for sure,
1061
01:15:03.560 --> 01:15:07.359
I mean, Mercedes probably does, but I was told about
1062
01:15:07.680 --> 01:15:12.359
I was told about this by a girl with kaleidoscope
1063
01:15:12.399 --> 01:15:17.359
eyes actually and a porter with plastic scene ties or
1064
01:15:18.319 --> 01:15:21.399
looking No, but anyway.
1065
01:15:21.079 --> 01:15:22.880
He threw the bus.
1066
01:15:24.600 --> 01:15:30.199
Who me, No, I don't know what that meant, but yeah, Mercedes,
1067
01:15:30.439 --> 01:15:33.600
Mercedes made me say this. No, but yeah, trails were
1068
01:15:34.560 --> 01:15:36.319
it was. It was like kind of they were laughing
1069
01:15:36.439 --> 01:15:39.720
up their sleeves about you know, you know, trails was
1070
01:15:39.760 --> 01:15:42.800
a much different thing. But happy ones, you know, yeah,
1071
01:15:43.119 --> 01:15:47.840
how yeah, happy trails where he can't go wrong? Agreed,
1072
01:15:48.479 --> 01:15:50.000
I say happy trails to everyone.
1073
01:15:52.279 --> 01:15:56.119
On a more innocent note, if you do google Roy Rogers,
1074
01:15:56.159 --> 01:15:58.760
there is a slide guitarist who's pretty well known that
1075
01:15:59.039 --> 01:16:01.760
still playing he's said seventy five. He was actually named
1076
01:16:01.800 --> 01:16:05.840
after the actor, So it depends on which Roy Rogers
1077
01:16:05.920 --> 01:16:10.279
you want to look up. So just as a heads up, Yeah,
1078
01:16:11.239 --> 01:16:13.920
so that's Mercedes. That's what I had.
1079
01:16:14.680 --> 01:16:16.920
That was great, love it.
1080
01:16:17.199 --> 01:16:20.520
Hey, I want to thank everybody for making this happen
1081
01:16:20.600 --> 01:16:21.119
because this.
1082
01:16:21.279 --> 01:16:22.319
Was a lot of fun for me.
1083
01:16:23.159 --> 01:16:27.319
I really really enjoyed it and good thanks to all
1084
01:16:27.399 --> 01:16:34.800
of you for making my dream come true. Anyway, Brian,
1085
01:16:34.880 --> 01:16:37.000
do you want to take us out the rest of
1086
01:16:37.039 --> 01:16:37.279
the way?
1087
01:16:37.399 --> 01:16:40.119
Oh you're gonna dump it back in my lap? Okay, yeah, yeah,
1088
01:16:40.239 --> 01:16:42.640
all right, I can handle that fair enough. But good job,
1089
01:16:42.800 --> 01:16:45.239
thank you, good topic, and thank you for taking over.
1090
01:16:45.560 --> 01:16:47.159
And that was a lot of fun. That was a
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lot of fun to listen to. Yeah, so yeah, thank
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you all, Crambones, thank you Mercedes, and thank you all
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for joining us here for the Rock and Roll History Show.
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Yeah all right, yes, yes, we'll be back there, double
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the fun.
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We'll be back next week with another brand new episode.
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Until then, have a great weekend everybody, and peace out.
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