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I'm going to do something completely different now.
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So this is a topic that's extremely important, extremely serious,
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much in the news, and yet even though it's much
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in the news, I get the sense that a lot
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of people have heard the buzzwords, and I may include
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myself in this, have heard the buzzwords, but don't really
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understand much more than that. Joining us right now is
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Erica Reid. She's acting Section chief at the Center for
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Countering Human Trafficking at DHS, the Department of Homeland Security,
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and we're going to talk about a new back to
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school initiative that they are putting forward to well educate
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a lot of different people who need to know. Erica,
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Welcome to Kaaway and thanks so much.
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For being here, Thank you for having us, and good morning.
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Good morning to you.
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I see a sign behind you that says Blue Campaign,
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and I have Blue Campaign in my notes as well,
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but I don't know what it is, so can you
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please tell us?
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Oh? Absolutely, I love talking about who we are. So
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the Blue Campaign we are a national public awareness campaign.
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Our job is to date the public on how to
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recognize and report possible cases.
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Of human trafficking.
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And the way do we do that is we work
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with subject matter experts to develop our training and our
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awareness material. Our subject matter experts are, of course law
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enforcement service providers and users, but most importantly they are
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also our lived experience experts, meaning survivors of human trafficking,
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and they help us make sure it's realistic and relevant
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when we're going out to talk to the communities.
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All Right, I'm going to ask you a really naive question,
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but I just want to get everybody on the same page.
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I hear the term human trafficking a lot, but I
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don't exactly know what it means, or at least I
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don't exactly.
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Know what all it includes.
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So could you give us kind of a good, plain
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English working definition of human trafficking?
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Absolutely, and that is not a bad question. This is
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exactly why we're here. So, human trafficking is a crime,
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and it's a crime of exploiting a person, meaning using
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a person for either commercial sex or force labor. And
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they're either going to do it through force forcing them
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to do it, frauding them to do it.
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And or comhursing them to do it.
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Now, since we're here, when we're talking about children, we
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have to understand that any child engaging in commercial sex
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acts under the age of it. Of course, they're under
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the age of eighteen. Force, fraud and cohersion does not
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have to be involved with them to be considered human
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trafficking victims.
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Wow.
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Well, so so with somebody with a a with a
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sixteen year old. If a person takes a sixteen year
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old and suggests to them that, you know, I'll make this,
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I'll make this character. A girl suggests to this girl,
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you you should have sex with such and such a
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person and I'll split the money with you, and then
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we're going to go this other place and do it again.
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It doesn't matter if the sixteen year old does it voluntarily,
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it still counts as human trafficking.
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Is that what you're saying.
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I'm saying that.
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So it's if there's no force, there's no fraud or cohersion,
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if they're engaging in commercial sex act and there then
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it is considered human trafficking.
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Okay.
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So one of the things that I understand you're doing
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it blue campaign right now, and I think I mentioned
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this in my introducing you, is a back to school initiative.
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So talk talk.
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To us a little bit about what we I'm a parent,
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what we as parents or or people who may be
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worked at schools or need to be looking at, looking
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looking out for, and maybe what we might talk to
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our children about for them to keep an eye out for.
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I imagine that's not an easy conversation.
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Though it isn't an easy conversation, but we know that
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it's a conversation that's needed. I'll start with the first part.
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I always tell people to go to our website.
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Because we're short on time.
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We don't want to give you a whole list of indicators.
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So I always say go to DHS dot gov slash
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blue camp to look at a list of indicators. So
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some indicators that I can give you today for parents
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and adults that work with you because they know them
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and they're in their space every day, would be bruising
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and bruising in a sense of not they play a
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sport and they have bruises, but you notice that they
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have new bruisings. Another one could be tattoos or brandings.
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And when we think about tattoos, not the coming of
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age tattoos, not the best friend tattoos, but you know
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that this kid, You're like, Hey, what's this tattoo mean?
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Where does it come from?
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We know that traffickers actually tattoo those that they are
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that are being victimized that they're trafficking as a sign
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of that they possess them.
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Another one could be behavioral changes.
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Like I said, they're around them every day, and so
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you wouldn't know if if a kid or that that's
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in your life, or a student that was outgoing is
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all of a sudden not as outgoing, very reserved, maybe
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very private all of a sudden, or their grades have
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changed a little defensive if you ask them questions that
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maybe something is going and on. I do want to
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point out that there are other indicators that people kind
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of don't recognize. Is large lump sums of money. If
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you have a kid that of course they have a
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summer job or maybe even a part time job, but
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you know that job is not paying that much. And
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if they have those expensive items, then you might want
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to open up the dialogue of going, hey, how's everything?
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Where how did you get these shoes? Where did they
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come from? These are nice? Those are opportunities to kind
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of open at the opportunity to talk about it and
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open at dialogue, and those could be indicators of human trafficking.
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We're talking with Erica Reid from the Center for Countering
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Human Trafficking at the Department of Homeland Security. I think
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many people sort of intuitively understand the risk of human
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trafficking for and this isn't happening as much now, but
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in the previous several years, people coming across the border,
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being brought by coyotes, maybe being in debt to them
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and having to work that off through this human trafficking
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kind of behavior.
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But I think a lot of what you're.
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Talking about today, and what I want more of the
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focus to be on, as it has been, is human
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trafficking of people already living in America by people already
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living in America.
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How big is the scale of this problem?
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So we want people to understand is that, like you
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just said, that trafficking doesn't have a face, So a
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trafficer could be anyone, and so could the person being
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victimized by the crime. So trafficking happens, of course everywhere.
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To say that the scale.
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Is kind of hard to say or identify the scale
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because a lot of people that are victimized by the
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crime are not even aware that they're being trafficked. It's
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not until sometimes they hear about what human trafficking is.
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That they go, oh gosh, this is.
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Actually happening to me, or I've seen someone else in
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my neighborhood or going to the store that this is
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happening too.
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Wow.
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All right, last thing for you, and I know you
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touched on it already, but just in case you want
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to add anything, what would be your single best piece
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of advice for parents.
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Education is key, not to not be afraid to have
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that conversation with your younger people. First thing first is
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I think every parent needs to learn the signs or
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learn what human trafficking is.
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They can go to our website and learn it.
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They also can order materials or even download our videos.
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They're all free, even the materials, and they can post
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them up in their children's schools or even act the
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school administration if they can post them up, take them
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to the local libraries. But I think they also need
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to cultivate an environment where children feel empowered, not just
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empowered over their mind and body, but know that they
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still have power to raise awareness too.
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So cultivate an environment where they.
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Feel safe, you're the trusted adult, but cultivate an environment
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where they know that they're needed to fight this crime
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through Education.
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Give us the website again that you want to refer
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people to.
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Sure, yes, it's DHS dot gov slash blue.
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Campaigns dot gov slash blue campaign Erica read his acting
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Section chief at the Center for Countering Human Trafficking at
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the Department of Homeland Security. Thanks for your time, Erica,
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appreciate it.
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Thank you, Thank you for having us.
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Very glad to
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I'm going to do something completely different now.
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So this is a topic that's extremely important, extremely serious,
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much in the news, and yet even though it's much
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in the news, I get the sense that a lot
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of people have heard the buzzwords, and I may include
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myself in this, have heard the buzzwords, but don't really
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understand much more than that. Joining us right now is
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Erica Reid. She's acting Section chief at the Center for
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Countering Human Trafficking at DHS, the Department of Homeland Security,
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and we're going to talk about a new back to
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school initiative that they are putting forward to well educate
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a lot of different people who need to know. Erica,
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Welcome to Kaaway and thanks so much.
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For being here, Thank you for having us, and good morning.
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Good morning to you.
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I see a sign behind you that says Blue Campaign,
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and I have Blue Campaign in my notes as well,
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but I don't know what it is, so can you
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please tell us?
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Oh? Absolutely, I love talking about who we are. So
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the Blue Campaign we are a national public awareness campaign.
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Our job is to date the public on how to
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recognize and report possible cases.
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Of human trafficking.
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And the way do we do that is we work
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with subject matter experts to develop our training and our
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awareness material. Our subject matter experts are, of course law
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enforcement service providers and users, but most importantly they are
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also our lived experience experts, meaning survivors of human trafficking,
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and they help us make sure it's realistic and relevant
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when we're going out to talk to the communities.
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All Right, I'm going to ask you a really naive question,
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but I just want to get everybody on the same page.
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I hear the term human trafficking a lot, but I
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don't exactly know what it means, or at least I
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don't exactly.
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Know what all it includes.
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So could you give us kind of a good, plain
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English working definition of human trafficking?
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Absolutely, and that is not a bad question. This is
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exactly why we're here. So, human trafficking is a crime,
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and it's a crime of exploiting a person, meaning using
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a person for either commercial sex or force labor. And
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they're either going to do it through force forcing them
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to do it, frauding them to do it.
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And or comhursing them to do it.
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Now, since we're here, when we're talking about children, we
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have to understand that any child engaging in commercial sex
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acts under the age of it. Of course, they're under
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the age of eighteen. Force, fraud and cohersion does not
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have to be involved with them to be considered human
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trafficking victims.
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Wow.
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Well, so so with somebody with a a with a
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sixteen year old. If a person takes a sixteen year
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old and suggests to them that, you know, I'll make this,
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I'll make this character. A girl suggests to this girl,
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you you should have sex with such and such a
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person and I'll split the money with you, and then
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we're going to go this other place and do it again.
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It doesn't matter if the sixteen year old does it voluntarily,
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it still counts as human trafficking.
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Is that what you're saying.
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I'm saying that.
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So it's if there's no force, there's no fraud or cohersion,
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if they're engaging in commercial sex act and there then
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it is considered human trafficking.
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Okay.
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So one of the things that I understand you're doing
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it blue campaign right now, and I think I mentioned
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this in my introducing you, is a back to school initiative.
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So talk talk.
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To us a little bit about what we I'm a parent,
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what we as parents or or people who may be
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worked at schools or need to be looking at, looking
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looking out for, and maybe what we might talk to
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our children about for them to keep an eye out for.
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I imagine that's not an easy conversation.
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Though it isn't an easy conversation, but we know that
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it's a conversation that's needed. I'll start with the first part.
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I always tell people to go to our website.
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Because we're short on time.
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We don't want to give you a whole list of indicators.
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So I always say go to DHS dot gov slash
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blue camp to look at a list of indicators. So
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some indicators that I can give you today for parents
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and adults that work with you because they know them
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and they're in their space every day, would be bruising
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and bruising in a sense of not they play a
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sport and they have bruises, but you notice that they
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have new bruisings. Another one could be tattoos or brandings.
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And when we think about tattoos, not the coming of
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age tattoos, not the best friend tattoos, but you know
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that this kid, You're like, Hey, what's this tattoo mean?
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Where does it come from?
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We know that traffickers actually tattoo those that they are
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that are being victimized that they're trafficking as a sign
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of that they possess them.
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Another one could be behavioral changes.
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Like I said, they're around them every day, and so
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you wouldn't know if if a kid or that that's
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in your life, or a student that was outgoing is
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all of a sudden not as outgoing, very reserved, maybe
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very private all of a sudden, or their grades have
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changed a little defensive if you ask them questions that
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maybe something is going and on. I do want to
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point out that there are other indicators that people kind
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of don't recognize. Is large lump sums of money. If
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you have a kid that of course they have a
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summer job or maybe even a part time job, but
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you know that job is not paying that much. And
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if they have those expensive items, then you might want
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to open up the dialogue of going, hey, how's everything?
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Where how did you get these shoes? Where did they
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come from? These are nice? Those are opportunities to kind
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of open at the opportunity to talk about it and
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open at dialogue, and those could be indicators of human trafficking.
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We're talking with Erica Reid from the Center for Countering
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Human Trafficking at the Department of Homeland Security. I think
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many people sort of intuitively understand the risk of human
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trafficking for and this isn't happening as much now, but
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in the previous several years, people coming across the border,
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being brought by coyotes, maybe being in debt to them
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and having to work that off through this human trafficking
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kind of behavior.
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But I think a lot of what you're.
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Talking about today, and what I want more of the
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focus to be on, as it has been, is human
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trafficking of people already living in America by people already
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living in America.
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How big is the scale of this problem?
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So we want people to understand is that, like you
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just said, that trafficking doesn't have a face, So a
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trafficer could be anyone, and so could the person being
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victimized by the crime. So trafficking happens, of course everywhere.
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To say that the scale.
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Is kind of hard to say or identify the scale
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because a lot of people that are victimized by the
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crime are not even aware that they're being trafficked. It's
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not until sometimes they hear about what human trafficking is.
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That they go, oh gosh, this is.
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Actually happening to me, or I've seen someone else in
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my neighborhood or going to the store that this is
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happening too.
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All right, last thing for you, and I know you
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touched on it already, but just in case you want
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to add anything, what would be your single best piece
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of advice for parents.
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Education is key, not to not be afraid to have
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that conversation with your younger people. First thing first is
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I think every parent needs to learn the signs or
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learn what human trafficking is.
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They can go to our website and learn it.
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They also can order materials or even download our videos.
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They're all free, even the materials, and they can post
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them up in their children's schools or even act the
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school administration if they can post them up, take them
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to the local libraries. But I think they also need
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to cultivate an environment where children feel empowered, not just
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empowered over their mind and body, but know that they
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still have power to raise awareness too.
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So cultivate an environment where they.
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Feel safe, you're the trusted adult, but cultivate an environment
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where they know that they're needed to fight this crime
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through Education.
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Give us the website again that you want to refer
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people to.
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Sure, yes, it's DHS dot gov slash blue.
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Campaigns dot gov slash blue campaign Erica read his acting
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Section chief at the Center for Countering Human Trafficking at
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the Department of Homeland Security. Thanks for your time, Erica,
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appreciate it.
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Thank you, Thank you for having us.
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Very glad to
