The Roar Report - ft. Stuart Locke

Mitchell Itter: We're here today with the great Stuart Locke. He's a past president of the SFNC through some very strong seasons, including part of the Three Pete. He's part of the illustrious 1991 Premiership team. We know many famous names in that Premiership and we've spoken to a fair few of them, so he might have some stories about some of those boys from that era. He's a life member. and is as fit as a fiddle. We've said that about a few of the guests on the Royal Report so far, but Stewie Locke definitely takes the cake. They've let themselves go. This man is at 3 % body fat and looking fantastic. Stew, thanks very much for joining us. Thanks, Mitch. And we'll have a chat to Stew about footy, but also an important weekend coming up. So starting with that football side of things, we might even get to know you bit better as a person first. You're pretty involved in the community. You've been involved at the footy club, obviously, for a long time. So what do you do day to day? You're with one of our major sponsors and you're also heavily involved in the community with Go Seymour. Can you tell us about that? Yeah, I will. I came to Seymour in 1991 ⁓ through a mate who was running a bus company for his dad. ⁓ We played tennis and he said, come on, work for me. And I did, thought I'd be here a few months. still here 35 years later. And people think I own the company, but I run it for, I've had two bosses in my life and the second boss I've got now I run it for. He lives in Melbourne, so he just leads me to it. And that's what I've done since 1991. As for community, I'm the chair of the Go Seymour, and people again wonder what Go Seymour is about. Well, it's about making Seymour a better place to live. and we sort of work under a of a motto of live, live which means to, you know, live to invest, to visit, to explore and, you know, to make Seymour a better place. And just on the Seymour coaches side of things, people probably think the buses just run every day and go to the same stops and it's nice and easy. How do you feel your days in, I'm sure trains and disruptions play a big part particularly at the moment? Trains and disruptions play a very big part. Schools play a very big part, townspeople and government services play a big part and the small part of it is the charter when people hire a bus. They think that's all I do but that's like 1 % of our business. But you're happy to take charter buses from party animals around the football club if they're willing and able and got the dough? I like to take people to weddings and to parties because they're really good people then and the same people that come home are not so good. I get my drivers to do that. And who cleans the bus? Not you? I don't care, it's not me. Beautiful. So going back to your playing days, that's good. You come here in 1991 and you're the golden charm. Seeing Seymour return to the top. But you played plenty of senior footy here. What were you like as a player? How would you describe yourself and how would your teammates think of you, do you reckon? Well, Dick Martin was one of my teammates. and he came up with the nickname and I've had a few here but he came up with the nickname Showbag. Yeah, because I looked good but I was full of shit. So that one stuck for a long time until Joff, as in Jeff, as in the great Jeff Anderson, the Senor Ford, did a little spiel and somehow I got the nickname Body Rock. So I preferred that one to Showbag. But I came here and in those days I was called a Rover. People don't probably know what a Rover is but a Rover was a Rover and then I went Ruck Rover was a Ruck Rover and it was a Ruck and that was your midfield, those three people and I was one of them. What about some of the characters in and around the footy? The Ruck Rovers, some tough guys back then for Seymour? Yeah, yeah. Look, when I came here, the Seymour team was huge, like Pete Elliott, John Solomon, Chris Martin, Dick Martin, Alex Clydesdale, the shortest centre half forward in the world but still big and strong. was like, wow, this is pretty cool but... I reckon the toughest, sort of nastiest little fella was the first player I met here and his name was Ian Baker. And like Ian Baker, he was the heart and soul of the team, the way I saw it. Because he was the first bloke I met and said, man, I'll look after you. And he looked after you? Sort of. He introduced me to Gary Brown. Right. And he said, I'll look after you. Then I started to get worried. So Ian Baker needs to come on in and have a few stories, wouldn't he? He has a different slant to the Seymour theme song which I think since women, ⁓ I shouldn't be sexist, come into the rooms and the club rooms and I support that, it's a family place. But since the family theme sits true, Ian Baker's not been seen. And he was a fairly dangerous runner in the day, wasn't he? He could get involved in the goings on on the field. I've got memories of being a young kid and watching the runner get very involved in the play. He was known as Baker! Okay, so we've sort of said that 91 team, there's a few nut jobs in there and I'm going to claim you're one of the more down to earth and normal guys in there, which I'm sure some of your teammates might dispute. So what about that team, that premiership? You've touched on footy and seamer at that time. Take us back to that era. Like that year, because my first year here, so I'm a ring in. knew, don't know anyone and I played tennis. Everyone in the club played cricket and Eastern Hills and Royals, you've probably heard this in other podcasts, it was like the Hatfields and the McCoys. It was kill or be killed and I think that helped me because I was harmless to everyone. Switzerland. Oh yeah, it was incredible. I thought these guys can't play together because the O'Sullivans and the Coles, they hate each other. But then I thought this rivalry, if we all get together on the footy field and it comes out, we're going to be hard to beat. And that's sort of what happened. We were just a really, I think, ugly nasty team that no one else wanted to play against. Who were the nasty men in there? Dick Martin was one. He's all elbows and knees and kicked the ball sideways. ⁓ Darren Comey was as strong as they come. ⁓ What do say, nasty Malcolm Williams, that word comes to mind. Getting a few repeat offenders coming through. Yeah, there was just some hard heads in there, which was great. Any you wouldn't want to be in the trenches with in that team? a few that ran the other way? No, no one really ran the other way. Gerard would tell you he ran the other way, but Gerard was just sneaky talented and I don't know, probably... copped a bit of an unfair reputation but no everyone was pretty good to the treat. There a few young blokes here, Dale Huff was young, Mark Selikowski was young, a bloke called Ben Davy was just a kid and very finally in the grand final took on a bloke and come off second best and he should never ever be let forget that, that he got put on his arse. What was young Ben Davy like in that? Cocky. He was a bit of a rooster, we've seen those photos, he's a good looking... He was, he was a rooster. And that takes us into good looking roosters and being fit and if we lined up the 91 team right now there'd be all kinds of shapes and sizes I imagine. But none of them would fit into your shirts I don't think. And like a fine wine you've gotten better with age so we went through the records and we think Dave Mundy and yourself are probably the only all Australians we've ever had come out to Seymour. Talk to us about your... all Australian honours? Well, that's yeah, I think you're overstating things a bit there Mitch. In about 2012 or 2013, the new boss, as he was then, played footy in Melbourne in the Super Rules. And he said, you play footy up in Seymour? Why don't you come and play Super Rules down here against blokes your own age? And I thought... I said to him, why would I do that? And his words were, because if you don't, I'll sack you. So I thought, well, that's probably a bit of a lure. So down I went, and it's great fun. It's really an exercise in, I guess, older guys having a connection that they otherwise wouldn't have. It's like the men's shed with a football. And some guys take it seriously. My boss down in Melbourne, Dom, he loves it. He could never play footy as a young man because he had to work. He had to work in his father's business. As soon as he had his own world and he was the master of his own domain at the royal age of like 38, 39, he thought, I'm going to go back and play footy because I missed it. And a lot of guys are like that. They miss footy as young men and they get to play it now. And a lot of older guys just love the camaraderie. And some, I swear, don't get a kick in the game, but they'll still have a shower and get changed and... have a beer in the showers and talk about the old times and that's what it's sort of about underneath. It's more than just a footy. Trainers table busy? It's weird because we pay to play. The young lads these days wouldn't get that. I pay 20 bucks towards the umpires. I pay my couple of hundred subs every year and luckily we've got some very good trainers but yeah the trainers table is pretty busy. And you haven't really touched on the all Australian aspect of it, but an all Australian in the over 60s? Yeah, the 40s. 47s one year, the 50s one year, and the 55s and so on. And if you have a good carnival, you get to be an all Australian. If you have a crap carnival, you don't. That's just how it works. What are the celebrations post you've won a championship there or a couple? Does it kick on? look, the last... I made the All-Australia didn't last year but the year before over in Fremantle we had the celebrations at the dome. What do call the Western Australian dome? The Treasure Dome or something. The WA Dome was flash. was very fancy. They put on a big awards night for us. So yeah, take it when you can get it. That's good. A lot of people do miss that sport once they get a bit older. Good thing if anyone's listening and interested in putting them back on, Stu will show you the ropes. But post the, I guess we'll call them regular playing days, we don't want to be too ageist, but you're a footy here at Seymour, you moved into the administration of the club and president for a couple of years, senior premiership in there as well, so how'd you get roped into the off-field sort of thing? Because I know for a lot of people it is roped in, but what happened there? I got roped in. And got invited to... I actually was vice president for a couple of years, in 2005 and 2006 when I came back from Melbourne. And thought, yeah, it looks like it's me because I was vice president and the president departed. And Jared said, I'll support you. Yeah, good. No way to be saved. And when I looked around everyone disappeared. So it was left to me. But the years earlier when I was playing, I was social club guy. raising funds and money and organizing events. So wasn't new, but it was a shock. Because when I took over, I found out pretty quick smart, we're in a lot of debt. And again, I hand this to Jirbs, he said, right, let's find out where all our debts are. Let's get a loan from Dirty David, the GMCU, bundle everything into one pot, pay everyone out and work our way through it. And we did. And it took years and probably took longer than. I would have liked, but we had some very good footy teams. Like, you just don't burn good players. If you can afford to operate and still keep going, ⁓ And we slowly ⁓ worked that debt away. ⁓ But my life as ⁓ people thought would last for years. ⁓ But my wife... She made sure it didn't last too long because of a couple of things that happened that I got told your time has to come to an end and then once was when we had a practice game here, know, March, lovely weather, beautiful day, few beers, few jars. Yeah, yeah, and my kids were brought up here. When I was president they were four and five and then six and seven and whatever. And I went home after one of those days. could find my wife at home who then looked at me and said, so where are the kids? They weren't at home. I remember when I actually got back to the rooms, they were still at the rooms with not too many other people there, but there they were happy as well. So that was one. And the biggest faux pas I ever made, deep in finals, which is in September. My wife's birthday was in September. And one morning while I was working out, I think the number of people to get on the bus to Shepparton for a preliminary final. Sandra O'Sullivan turns up with a massive bouquet of flowers and I looked up from the breakfast table and thought, I wonder what they're for? And she looked at me as if to say, you idiot. Walked past me, gave Sarah the flowers and then walked out and I'm like, this is not good. And that was another nail in my coffin. But I enjoyed it. Great times, great fun. You learn a lot when you're president of a footy club. And even now I'm thinking the job's huge running a football club, football netball club, we're in the era of mobile phones and everyone's sort of at the touch of your fingers. Was it a bit more difficult herding the cat, so to speak? It's not that long ago, but nearly 20 years ago. Was it tough getting everyone on the same page without the same sort of access to people? It probably was. It's a lot easier now, but then again, you get away with a lot more things in those days because there wasn't phones and social media. know, jeez, imagine some of the things that Hebart or whatever, you know, like, if they were on film. Yes, dangerous. ⁓ And the club, a lot of people probably don't know that about the club going through those financial difficulties. So you'd be pretty pleased to see the clubs in a sustainable position. Look, Trevor Gunn after... me, awesome, an administrator extraordinaire. Wasn't really focused on the club's ladder position, purely focused on his financial position and sorting out some processes, streamlining payroll, the admin and the clerical side. And you know, he gets no credit for that. And then Jared comes in after Trev and again has a lot of support. So he's the first to admit that his daughter probably did most of the work. And I agree, his daughter probably raised my kids in that time that I was president because between Jared, Sandra, Sarah and myself, there's a lot of partying going on and Lindell often brought our kids home. yeah, the presidency has been in pretty good hands, I think. And now with Pete, you know, again, another financial person, but with an affiliation to the club and another 91 Premiership player. So they're important things. And Trevor Garton is a listener. He's got in touch, so he'll be stoked to get a mention on the raw report, I'm sure. ⁓ And that connection to the club, you've spoken a little bit about that, and it's been a very long involvement. And now, for the first time in a while, you've got your two daughters running around and they're playing in the same netball team. So Chloe and Sophie in the B-Rez. ⁓ Pretty pleased to see that, I imagine. Yeah, I am. ⁓ And I know like, Sophie dearly wanted to play netball again after not having played since she was 15 or 16. So this year she had that chance, with the VFL season starting later and her coach allowing her to play. So she's busily trying to gather the number of games you need to qualify for finals should the B-Reserve make it. I suspect they will. And Chloe, of course, she eats it, sleeps it and... Yeah, probably sells herself a bit short with her abilities ⁓ and her mother, God bless her, got in the socks, always thought Chloe would be a coach and I think that would make her very proud right now to see Chloe coaching the 15s because we just think that's her calling. And she's definitely someone that people follow and she's got a great bubbly personality and she'll be front and centre at the functions no doubt again this year. ⁓ We're very lucky to have Chloe and I'm sure she'll be hoping she'll beat you in terms of the streams on the Royal Report as well, so there might be some healthy competition there between father and daughter. ⁓ And let's, again, we'll delve into the family side of things. So this weekend we've got our ⁓ Breast Cancer Network Australia fundraiser, which is an annual event for the club. And it is named Sarah's Day, a high tea, a big day for our club and our community. raises a lot of money for charity. you talk to us about what that day is all about, how it's come to be and what it means? yeah, it's come to be purely because of Sarah and her friendship group that she had in the town and with her girlfriends and of course a lot of those girlfriends have husbands who are good friends of mine and I'm not sure how it started. I suspect it was because through association in the AFLW and losing her mum, Sarah, just before she started playing AFL, she was an ambassador for the BCNA. And that kicked it off. And I think up here, a few of the friends said, let's do a fundraiser here and call it Sarah's Day. I had no problem with that to begin with. It's been going on a few years now, of course. And I think it's become more of a celebration of of raising funds for cancer because we keep losing good people from all forms of cancer over the journey since this time. And just for everyone to know that they're helping to raise some money and put it towards a pretty ⁓ fantastic organisation to help understand breast cancer, primarily, that's what BCNA does. But the remarkable thing for me is the mums who... would have started this, the Sanders and the Allisons. Andy Lewis and so on. Their daughters are now taken over because their daughters knew Sarah too, like really well because I think Sarah used to meet out a bit of tough love to some of the girls when they'd come home and complain about their mums or their sisters and she'd like, it's time to sort this out. And so they've really carried the can and I find that amazing and really heartwarming that the younger girls are leading the way. So that's to me, that's what I... take out of the day. hmm. It's pretty much a golden generation of mums and dads that 90s era, so it's pretty special to get everyone together and behind that year in year out. And how can people do that and get behind this course? Well, they can buy a ticket, the Facebook link. I know a lot about Facebook. Your face is in the book. Or you can get tickets, I think, the club here tonight, Thursday night. I shouldn't maybe say it was Thursday, but it is Thursday today. It was meant to be Wednesday. I'll have to be quick to get this up there. And for those who can't attend, you can still buy a ticket, sponsor it. I've had a call from a couple of people saying, we bought a ticket, but we can't make it. But hopefully the ticket goes towards the cause, which is fantastic. So yeah, there's a number of ways you can do it. I know the girls are pushing it because they just want to have a really big day. And it's important to note that all those proceeds do go directly to BCNA, so there's nothing for the club, so know that all your funds are going directly to where it's needed, and that also flows into the iPod shuffle night, where half of the funds raised there will also go to the BCNA, so if the ladies are still standing by then, they're more than welcome to continue. Any activities on the day you know about, or you're not quite in the loop? I don't really want to be in the loop. I go where I'm told to go and I do what I'm told to do. I know there's a coin toss and at the end of the day there's a medal presentation and of course there's the lunch, the high tea. And the high tea, look, when you say the club doesn't get anything from it, what this club gets and has that other clubs I've been to, like when Chloe played at Wodonga that don't have, is this amazing connection between the netballers and the footballers. And to do something like it's a ladies day, really a high tea day. And it's a great day. I witnessed the ladies day in Mansfield last weekend and I swear we ate all the food at the end of the day because there was hardly anyone there. I just felt almost sorry for them that this is your ladies day. You should see what we do. So that's just awesome. Yeah. And it can be quite confronting when you see them walk into the room, watch the football at end of the day and then you walk back into the room and see what condition they've found themselves in. It's like a wedding bus. Any standout performers at those Sarah's Day events over the years. I think they are, but let's just, what goes on in the high tea stays in the high tea. And the footballs again, yes, they've been great. So they're going to be right behind the cause and straight in there once they finish up. So, and also big thank you to Tatura, they're being fantastic. Please thank them. They're right into this, which is fantastic because they probably struggle as a club at times and every time they come here, they buy the merchandise, they buy the tickets. Hats off to Taturo. Yeah, and I think a couple of years ago we had five or ten of them sneak in after the footy and kick off the dance floor with a few of our net bowlers, so they better be careful what they're doing or Stu will come for them. Wonderful. Thank you very much, Stu. Appreciate you covering all that. That's a fantastic event for our club and we're absolutely stoked to have it again and looking forward to the weekend and we might make a sharp segue back into the football side of things, a bit of a lighter finish. We asked the same questions of everyone and you have to throw yourself under the bus and we'll start with who your favourite line is around the club, favourite personality. thought about this because you gave me a couple of days notice. I got two, I got two, can't split them. The great Kevin Kane. And again, as a president, I found out quick smart that other clubs were paying their trainers per session or per game or per day. I asked Kevin, as a new president not seeing it on the books, What goes on here? And he goes, what do mean? I said, well, these other clubs, get paid X amount per session or whatever. He goes, don't pay me, don't pay us, don't bring money into it. I don't want it ruining us, don't bring money in. Okay, what about paying some fuel money for the guy who tows the trailer all over the state? Oh, maybe, maybe, maybe. But anyway, I actually got the players one game against think it was against Tuchura, because they were very bad and we were very good. I said, look, I could put the second team in. Can you guys donate your daily take or whatever to the trainers? And they did. But I still think that money sits in a holding fund somewhere and Kevin never ever used it. And for what does with the expo and everything else, mumbles and groans, heart of gold, what he's done for the club over the years, just amazing. The other one is Hebard. And you you young people out there in social media land probably don't really know about Hebbard. And that's a shame, but you could write a book about that bloke. And he saved the club once many years ago too, in the 70s or 80s. I don't know much about him and what he did, but I know he saved the club and got him out of jail. So he sits up on a pedestal as well. So they're the two. And it's Kevye's trainer's room and Hebbard's store room. I think he might have put his own sign up in the store room. Two very good selections and we're still ⁓ looking for that trainer's fee on the books to this day. So Tony Waite, Paul Lewis and the crew are incredibly generous with their time. Best player you've played with? Hopefully not an obscure over 60s player we haven't heard of. ⁓ It's like 30 years ago since I last played with the best players I've played with. So I don't really want to pinpoint anyone. mean, I play with like Glenn Kyle, Matt O'Sullivan, a man who never had an opponent. I don't know how he did it. That's masterful. Was it just laziness or was he too quick? He transported himself from one spot to another, but he never had an opponent. You ask him. It'll be on soon, no doubt. And the great Jono, like as a player and an athlete. and as hard as they come. Boy, did he have some fights with some other rucks. But Johnno would punch the ball as a ruckman and you had no idea where it was going. Or he would mark it and go and kick it himself. And as a rover, I just wanted someone to tap the ball. And Pete Elliott had no misapprehensions about his talents. He would stand there, he would block and you would tap. So you know, and then DC won us the grand final. Elliott Clydesdale. I had a kick with him the first game I played and I thought, geez, he's a good left footer. And crapper said to me, he's not a left footer, mate. And he was a right footer and he was just so talented. And sent half forward at, five foot eight. So there's some pretty awesome players in that 91 team. Chris Martin wasn't one of them, but anyway. Good. I'm glad to hear that. And one day we'll narrow someone down to picking one, but so far proven unsuccessful. Best player you've played against? Well, I didn't play like a long, long time, but that year in 91, Brendan Parker, who ended up playing for Carlton, at Tongala, he almost won him that Grand Final. And poor old Mato, he got his head stood on, like he took marks on him in hangars. And we all hanged on Chris. But he was the best player for us to play against him. And eventually, I think he drew level, but Parker was... Seriously the dangerous player in the league that year. He won the Morrison, rightfully so. So he was great. But there was another guy a couple of years later who we, I didn't see coming, and we played Shepparton in a final at Yaroa. And we were a couple of goals up before half time thinking here we go. And this kid, Melington, Anthony Melington, I think his first name was, he just destroyed us again. And poor old Mato was on him. But I can't blame Mato because of delivery and what he did. We're like... this kid's a freak and he played for North Melbourne so you know those guys were pretty good players. Mato got about five blokes drafted. Got himself drafted and then got, he passed it on. Very very kind of Mato. ⁓ Best line you've ever seen so your president through a very good era. Could be modern day, could be back then, who is it? Could be modern day, could be back then. But it could be the same person I reckon everyone else is, the great Saad Saad. just, I don't talk about anyone else like I talk about Saad. What he did, there's AFL players today can't do what he did. The hanger he took in the grand final, everyone sees it. The hanger he took over Andrew Brown from Mansfield, it was there, Ruckman, like six foot six, big red-headed wranger. He stood up on his shoulders and marked the ball with one hand. Not on video, unfortunately. And he marked the ball one day here in Seymour against Marupna, where he took a speckie in front of the bloke. He put his leg, he elevated himself off the guy's hip. I still don't know how he did it. It's just a freak. Anyway. Yeah. I think that name will continue to crop up again and again. What about your favourite lines running around at the moment? Anyone? pretty excited to watch you. I'm to say your daughters of course. The B-Rez gold machine and the B-Rez interceptor who Dickie Wallace said to the other day, goes, she doesn't catch a netball, she marks it. That's what it marks it. Like, yeah that's cool. In the photos it definitely looks like a mark. And then of course, and look I do my favourite netball, it is Casey Drummond. Is that personality based or skills based? She's skills based, she's just super good. Like with Casey, this is the team. Without Casey, it could be a very different team. She's the glue. ⁓ she'll love that. But going to footy, I've got two names again and I think that no one flies under the radar for this club better than Sammy Firmister. And so happy that him and ⁓ Scotty McMaster. who missed the final the year before when they were hot favourites and lost. might have been two years before. And then last year in that grand final, underdogs, they're both playing and they win. I'm so happy for those two. There might have been someone else, but those two, especially Sammy, because he's just... Improved out of sight, barely. Yeah, just with him, again, the team's pretty good. Without him, there's a bit lost. And the other one I like, I love too, is Nugget Beatty. I love watching Nug play. Remind you of yourself, tough in and under. A little bit that, you know, and works pretty hard. And been here loyal, been here for a while and I just hope that he gets some sort of reward because I know his reward is finals, that sort of stuff, nothing else. So yeah, they're my picks. What do you think about the side overall out there at the moment? Excited about it? Yeah, love it. And I love the fact that they're nearly all local. Yeah. Yeah, you've got to have some... You've got to some, I guess, ring-ins to help fill the holes you just can't find locally. But they're nearly all local and they're almost faceless. The way Ben trains them and the way they play, very hard for other teams to pinpoint. How do you stop Seymour if they're going well? How can you do that? Mansfield was just... I'd rather go and see that than go and watch AFL. But yeah, think good things are going. And even those recruits this year, Zev Demarzis and Jared Murphy are local connections through Jack Murphy and school at Assumption. I remember seeing Zev play when he was a young kid. Well yeah, he played third year, didn't he? And he played senior games and I'm like, this kid will go really well. We lost him and he's back again. That's very good. And just to finish us off, do you have any message for the Lions faithful who are listening in? My main message... as an ex-president and as a follower of the club, is it's not all about premierships. It's about running successful clubs and running a successful culture. And I think we've got both of them at the moment and we've got a great committee. So I just hope it keeps on going. That's the fear of any good well-run country club. Is it somewhere along the line? Something drops off or the wrong person's in the wrong position and... wheels fall off. Yes, despite some struggles over the years, the functions have always been outstanding. actually, reminds me, thinking of functions, we've probably glossed over it. There was a pretty special one last year, and you probably owed a right of reply. Chloe claimed that you were stoked to see her get married off because it was free. Any response to that? Well, I was... I was very emotional about the fact that she's finally got married. He's a lovely young fella. ⁓ I don't think he knew what the hell he was in for and I certainly didn't get the chance to tell him to run. yeah, that's the first mock wedding I've ever been to. I always thought it was just ⁓ a shocking thing to do but I now see the value in it. So yeah, well done to the footy club for that. ⁓ And Mr Seymour coming up. I instigated Mr Seymour. I'm going to say that. We played Montmorency in a practice game many years ago in 2005. So you can check it. And 2006 I think was the first Mr Seymour because the Montmorency boys said to me after the game, we've got to get back because we've got Mr Montmorency on. went, tell me more. And so it started. And I think the funniest thing about Mr Seymour that I can recall was when it first started, that's when Joff got involved. He was... He was just pre-social media, but he had a little bit of an in with the Herald Sun, I think. And there was an article in the Herald Sun about the fact that Mr Seymour was on and David Hebard, the prancing horse, who's won it 11 times in a row, was going for the top. And of course, Heb wasn't in it. But I think a couple of weeks after this constant barrage of Heb, he won it 11 times in a row. He actually, honestly, I think he believed. He thought he'd won it 11 times in a row. yeah, Mr Seymour was a Stuart Locke thing, as is the Anzac Day game. Myself and Johnny Blackwell, came up with that idea to try to have Anzac Day games at Seymour because of the army connection. That's a pretty amazing day. We love our Anzac Day and we love beating your row on Anzac Day. That's right. It's got to be against your row. Yeah, absolutely. So what you're suggesting is maybe a golden... Bachelor kind of set up for Mr Seymour this year. Returning veterans get oiled up and... I don't come to the Mr Seymours anymore. It's past my bedtime. I'll leave it alone. And I don't think my girls would like me to be here. Yes, probably not. No. I don't know who'd be front row, you or them, but we'll have to see. was runner up one year. Brent Colburn beat me. He's got a couple of years on you, I guess. So there you go. Thank you very much Stu, greatly appreciate it. And big thank you for talking about Sarah's Day this weekend and we know it's a very ⁓ special and important occasion for your family and the club so thank you very much and ⁓ a great trip down memory lane you've been nice and free with your stories which is what it's all about. Well thank you Mitch, great that you do this again. I just hope that someone carries this on after you decide that you're busy saving the world or something. Yeah, if I'm saving the world I must have ruined it first. We might wrap it up there, thanks very much Stu and we are here on Saturday against Tuchura, Sarah's Day, make sure you get your tickets, get them on Facebook, we'll put it in the notes for this episode as well so we expect to see everyone here on Saturday followed by iPod Shuffle Night so look forward to it, go Lions. Go Lions.