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Hi, this is Margaret Scott, the first female
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writer in Transformers Comics, and you are listening
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to the Geekcast Radio Network. Welcome to The
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Polebags Origins episodes. Join TFG1 Mike as
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he grills this week's guest on just how they
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got into reading comics and more. So sit back,
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relax, and enjoy The Polebag. Welcome to the
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pull bag. This is a very special origins episode
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It's gonna kind of serve as an interview as well.
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I don't know how we're going to market this at
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this point I am of course your host TF Joe and
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Mike And we've had a few hiccups in the pull
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bag schedule and how I want to get things done
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We are supposed to be coming up on episode 89
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in two giant size episodes uh... ninety and ninety
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one in there is it now eighty nine ninety and
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then ninety and ninety one and screw that up
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eighty nine ninety and ninety one and ninety
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two are supposed to be two giant sized episodes
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coming up i have no idea what's going to be putting
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into them originally it was going to be countdowns
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but for now uh... it's an origins episode for
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those of you that don't know what the origins
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episodes are first of all go back and listen
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any of the ones i've done previously second of
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all it's myself getting together with friends
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with people I know, people I'm interested in
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finding out how they get into comic reading,
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and this time we have Windblade Returns, oh,
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I'm sorry, Marigrid Scott, hello. Hi. And we've
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brought along her husband, Jason Enright, who
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actually started, I started following on Twitter
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shortly after he started teasing me about Beast
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Hunters. Predacons rising last year. Because
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you guys are an evil team when it comes to Twitter.
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He's the evil part. I'm the team part. So this
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is going to work like any other Origins episode.
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Jason, let's start with you. Was there a parent,
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a relative, a friend, who was it that said here
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kid here's a comic go bother me and what comic
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was it you know don't bother me go away what
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comic was it when you first as a kid so i was
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uh... really into the x -men animated series
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as a kid and uh... i believe the very first comic
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i ever got was uh... x -men number one the jim
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lee you know like with the fold out gate the
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gatefold cover with Cyclops and Wolverine and
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everybody on it. And I believe my dad got that
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for me at a flea market. It was a comic that
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was a few years old because I just would not
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shut up about the X -Men. And then from there,
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I was one of those kids who didn't have a regular
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place to go to get comics. So it was like, you'd
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see them on a spinner rack at the supermarket
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or at a bookstore. And every once in a while,
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I would pick up something and it was always like
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you had no idea what was going on or you know
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where where the story was but it was pretty much
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for me in the early days kind of always x -men
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or x -men related um until i was like a teenager
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and got my own car and started being able to
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like search out comic shops but yeah so a good
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mix of both my parents buying me comics whenever
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i would find them on a spinner rack sort of got
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me started Who is your favorite X character?
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Cyclops. Really? You like emo boy? Really? Emo
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boy? Are you talking about Wolverine? No, Cyclops
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is the emo one. Gene! Gene! Why won't you believe
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me? Oh, I'm sorry. He's a man who's devoted to
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the love of his life. That's so terrible. What,
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are we fifteen and we're afraid of cooties? Oh
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my gosh. He probably is in most incarnations.
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There's actually a really interesting thing.
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They found that people who were introduced to
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the X -Men prior to the 90s are fans of Cyclops.
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And people who were introduced to X -Men later,
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when they started shifting it to make the book
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more about Wolverine, and they turned Cyclops
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into essentially the guy who enforces the rules,
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that they tend to not like Cyclops as much. You
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can see a very definitive line in sort of when
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people We're introduced to the X -Men as to which
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side of the Cyclops Line they're on But we don't
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be wrong. I grew up with the 92 series, but it
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just even in that going back and looking at that
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cartoon Oh, yeah, they totally screw up Cyclops
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like they don't do a good job And you think that
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they would because I mean Claremont was on that
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series. Yeah, but Pretty much the best X -Men
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stories are from like the 70s and 80s And you
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go back and read those and Cyclops is the man.
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And it's really interesting because until later
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in the 90s, he really is the main character.
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And then what's really interesting is they had
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always planned to retire him. After Gene died,
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he was supposed to sort of quit and go away and
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retire. And the idea was supposed to be that
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the promise of the X -Men is that you could fight
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for a while and then he'll live a normal life.
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But then, because of editorial, because it's
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comics and you can't ever give anyone a happy
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ending, they kept pulling him back in. And over
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time, I feel like they kind of slowly grew into
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his character. Because I don't think he works
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as, like, a Lifer. You know? Mm -hmm. What were
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you going to say, Marigold? Oh, nothing. He just
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cut out for a minute, so I was like... Oh, okay.
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No, he's still here. All right, what about you,
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Marigold? I don't remember. It's... As earlier
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last was last year. We did the interview with
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you. I think sometime last year I forget when
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it was it was during the time when prime was
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still fresh so What about you growing up and
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reading comics? How did you get into it? Um I
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actually got into comics comic book specifically
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through Sailor Moon Mango was my first introduction
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to comics and because I mean, quite frankly,
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the Western comics weren't super accepting of
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women at the time. And like Jason, I also had
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the thing where I love 90s X -Men and I went
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to go find a 90s X -Men comic and it's like issue
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376 and I had no idea what was going on. And
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of course, they're missing issue 375 and like
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I thought they come out every Wednesday. Why
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is all the other X books out? But this one isn't
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out. Like, I just I couldn't even deal with it.
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So I read Manga for a really long time, and then
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Jason finally got me to make the jump to Western
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Comics. So thanks, hon. Yeah. And really, we
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should thank Greenbrain. Yes. When we were younger.
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Yeah, when we were younger, this couple opened
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up a comic book store in our hometown. I think
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there were other comic book stores in the area
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before then, but that was the really first, like,
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very friendly one. And they would do really big,
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like, free comic book day celebrations and stuff
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like that. And that's where I had my first pull
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list. And I feel like that was really integral
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to both of us getting into, like, regular monthly
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comics. Yeah, you had a pull list there. I had
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a pull list there. My mom has a pull list there
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now. Like, they're a really great store. Um,
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but yeah, I think my first my first western comic
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actually was an idw comic called lore Um that
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actually sort of like went on like a year's long
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hiatus So I never got to read the ending So I
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finally actually I think like my last convention
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idw put out the like lore like the their big
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giant editions, you know the complete edition
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and I saw it and i'm just like Wondering over
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to John like oh my gosh. This was my first real
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comic that I loved I never got to read the ending
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So I weaseled a copy But I did that and and the
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first comic cover I can remember when I've I'd
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already been reading comics for a long time but
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like by the time I was like this is my thing
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was a One of Greg Rucka's Wonder Woman comics
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and it was the one where she was I just moved
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in New York and it was the one where it was thing
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was an anniversary cover and she's leaping off
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a taxi or like flying above a taxi and I was
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like, that's it like Awesome awesome. Alright,
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so as you guys are growing up You know the the
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teen slash young adult years. What were you reading
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back then Margarit? Very much. I was reading
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a ton of Sailor Moon much to the chagrin of my
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family Because my mom loved buying us books like
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that was the rule is that you could always there
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was always money for books like Right, but she
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hated manga cuz like we would buy it and then
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like by the time you get home You're done with
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it. It's like I just paid eight dollars for that
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But as far as superheroes goes, I was watching
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a lot of Transformers Beast Wars, Batman the
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Animated Series, 90s X -Men. Also, I was a huge
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90s X -Men fan. Man, there was a lot of fights
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on the playground over 90s X -Men. Who got to
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be who? That was like a blood sport. No, the
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the blood sport for me was in kindergarten kid
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between kindergarten and third grade Who got
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to be optimist prime and who got stuck being
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a shark decon because that they they had those
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stupid plugs on their tails Because everybody
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thought the shark decons were like you that's
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the cold virus. You don't want to be a bug I
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don't know. It was really weird back in the 80s
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Yeah, ours was always all the women fighting
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over who didn't have to be Jean Grey. Cause she
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couldn't do anything until she needed to do something
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and then she could do it and then she'd pass
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out. And she was like, what the heck? Yeah, no,
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literally, I remember like getting stuck being
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Jean Grey and someone was like, well, you have
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to pass out now. Like, and I'm like, I'm not
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just going to pass out. Like, yeah, no, you have
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to pass out. Yeah, that was the revenge. when
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they finally did the phoenix then it was like
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yeah eat it i'm jean grey now guys you said you
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said she always have to pass out that reminds
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me of um him and shira secret of the sword and
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when when she faints to to when adora faints
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to basically fool uh... web store in cobra khan
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and skeletons in the background says eh, just
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like a woman. It's just so hilarious. My throat
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isn't that great today to do Skeletor, but what
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about you, Jason? What were you reading as a
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teenager slash young adult? Well, in the early
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2000s they did the ultimate lines and that was
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really huge for me because like we were talking
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about, you know, you have the problem where you
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go in and you'd want to read X -Men or you'd
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want to read Avengers and there was like 400
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issues. So the Ultimate lines were really great
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because they were a new jumping on point. You
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could start at number one and that was when I
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first started reading things monthly because
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I was reading Ultimate Spider -Man and Ultimate
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Avenger or I guess it was called Ultimates and
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then Ultimate X -Men. I still remember really
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enjoying Ultimate X -Men was probably really
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cool until they like killed half the team and
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alternate them. But yeah, so yeah, that was pretty
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influential in my teen years. Thinking around
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that time too, like Kingdom Come came out. I
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remember that being really big and influential.
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Oh, you're so about Kingdom Come. Yeah, that
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was really cool. I don't know if you know this,
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but we were dating each other in high school,
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so we knew each other in our teen years. Yeah.
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Wow, and there was a there was a great series
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by Straszinski called rising stars. That was
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really good and I remember that was like The
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guy at the comic shop Dan like was like I think
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you really like this and so he started pulling
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me the issues That was really cool Absolutely,
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yeah All right work affiliations aside as a comic
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reader The age -old question is Marvel or DC?
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Marvel. So... Yeah, Marvel. Wow. Yeah. No question.
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I mean, there are some things. Like, I'm a big
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Superman fan. And I'm a big Wonder Woman fan.
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Yeah, but both of those characters, they very
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rarely do well. So it's kind of hard to, like,
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really get behind them. What about the fact that
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they're married now? I haven't read a DC comic.
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Actually, we just read Gotham Academy. That was
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the first DC comic I've read in like three years.
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If you guys want to gush about that, fine, but
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I don't think I can talk about that one. Gotham
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Academy? Yeah. I haven't read it yet, so. The
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way that I've described it is it's what if Harry
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Potter took place in the US instead of the UK.
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That's the way I've described it in several tweets
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and Facebook posts, and I think I have to at
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least check out the second issue to see if it
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gets any better for me, but after the first issue,
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it was just one of those things where... Well,
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Harry Potter made Warner Brothers, like, billions
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of dollars, so I think we're onto something there.
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I think if DC was smart, they would start making
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all of their comics for 14 -year -old girls.
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No, because 14 -year -old girls are the largest
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growing comics readership right now. And if they
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want to make money, that's the target they should
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go after. I'll say this about Gotham Academy.
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It's obviously, as you said, targeted at that
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age group. And I'm all for having fun in comics.
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it there just too many flake bruce wayne is just
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kind of there there's nothing really that there
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wasn't enough explanation of the characters for
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me in the first issue so i guess that all check
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out the second one but if it doesn't impressed
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me by then i'm i have other comics that i'm more
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interested in reading and read would rather spend
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money on uh... i will say that i'm really interested
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to see what they do with arkham manor Putting
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Arkham Asylum in Wayne Manor later this month.
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That's gonna be interesting for me All right,
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so I went the Marvel route overall Marigold who
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is your favorite Marvel hero and villain? That's
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not even fair This is the easiest question ever
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My favorite Marvel villain right now is... I
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have a weird love for Madame Masque. I have a
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lot of personal backstory, like my own headcanon
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with Madame Masque. I was wishing they'd do more
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with her. I think she's a really neat concept
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for a villain. In terms of a hero, probably...
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right now would be Miles Morales. Like, I really
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like, I really, really like him. And I really
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feel like him and Ms. Marvel are just a real
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breath of fresh air, like getting back to the
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actual teenage superhero, you know? And that
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real wish fulfillment and that great combination
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of like, I don't know what the heck I'm doing,
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like, and like superhero -ness. So I've been
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really enjoying them. What about you, Jason?
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You said this is an easy question. You already
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mentioned Cyclops. Cyclops and Magneto are the
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hero and villain, the greatest characters in
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the Marvel universe. Although Magneto's kind
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of an anti -hero now, so you gotta pick a new
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villain. I don't know. He's still murdering people
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left and right. So I don't see how that's not
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villainous. But yeah. No, Cyclops and Magneto.
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Although I gotta say, Ms. Marvel is... probably
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the best comic being created right now. I love
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that book. Except your wife. I don't know. Well,
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I did say outside of stuff that is being worked
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on, so I was trying to, like... You and Sarah
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are great, but you're not topping this Marvel
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right now. Wow! My husband just talked himself
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onto the couch. I was gonna say, man, that dog
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house looks pretty full right now. No, you're
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probably right there. They're close, though.
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They're close. Alright, outside of Transformers,
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what other IDW titles are you guys reading right
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now? Oh, um, I started reading Little Nemo, which
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is, the art is just gorgeous. It's really, really
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pretty. Hold on, I'm pulling up our pull list
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because I'm having trouble remembering all the
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things on it. Yeah, what else are we reading
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from? Hold on, I'll pull it up. We're reading
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Wild Blue Yonder, that was good. Yeah, that's
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good. I think that's on hiatus right now. yeah
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um oh i'm excited for edward scissorhands is
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coming up soon that's oh yeah that looks really
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great and uh and dungeons of dragons which sarah's
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doing the covers for that's on our pull list
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those both of those start this month so i don't
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know if those count we are huge dnd nerds so
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they totally had us there I was really into the
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last iteration of G .I. Joe, but I haven't picked
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up the new one. I don't know if it already started
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or it's starting really soon, but I'll probably
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check that out. I'll see if they have it at New
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York Comic Con this week. Yeah, I thought the
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G .I. Joe bandwagon when I heard they were going
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to reboot it, so. Yeah, it kind of stinks sometimes
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when they announce they're going to do a reboot
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and the old series still going on and you're
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like, should I? Keep reading Like you're gonna
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do a new number one in six months like yeah But
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yeah I also I really like a lot of the stuff
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that Sarah Gatos is doing with like a lot of
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the kid properties They're doing some really
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neat stuff with like they got a bunch of the
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Cartoon Network properties And they're doing
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this big crossover thing right now called super
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secret crisis war yeah Which is a great jab at?
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That's been really cute. Jim Zub's Samurai Jack
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comic is really good. Yeah, that's surprisingly
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good. Obviously, we're not the target audience
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of those, but it's really, really nice to have
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kids' comics, because it's so hard when you meet
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fans. You know, they have kids and it's like,
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well, can you know, what can my kid read? And
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it's like, not much. I'm not the target audience
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of those, but I still love them. Like I get so
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bored of like dark and gritty and gruesome all
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the time. I love all ages comics. Like, yeah.
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What I don't like about all ages comics is specifically.
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One of the big two they constantly start them
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and then just yank them say well Yeah, there's
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no there's no commitment to them and like like
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it stinks when the only real like true all ages
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comics at Marvel or DC Are the ones that are
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like times their cartoon shows, but then they
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don't feel like really committed to them. Yeah
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Absolutely. Yeah, like I will say that IDW is
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doing So far I've had one good All Ages series
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and one that I just don't... I just didn't think
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that it was... I wanted it to be something different.
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The good one was when they did the Rocky and
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Bullwinkle 4 issue miniseries. That was awesome.
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We just released our episode on the Dexter's
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lab for issue pretty series. Don't get me wrong.
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I was I was 17 18 somewhere around there when
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I was probably yeah, I forget when Dexter's lab
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came out It was a while ago, but I remember watching
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the cartoon as a teenager or whatever else and
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I remember liking certain parts of it and I was
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hoping that the Dexter's Lab miniseries would
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have been something different than what it was.
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I was hoping it would be more focused on Dexter
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versus Mandark than just another lesson of Dexter
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needing Dee Dee, et cetera, et cetera. So yeah,
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I mean, the other all -ages comics that I have
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read in the past are like Beware the Batman and...
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Scooby -Doo team up and that kind of stuff Scooby
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-Doo team up. I stopped reading because I just
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Don't care about the team ups that you're doing
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right now. Yeah The tough thing with like a team
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up book or crossover book is like if you don't
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like who they're crossing over with Yeah, yeah
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Have you been reading Lumberjanes? We were reading
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Lumberjanes for a while. That was really interesting.
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Yeah, Lumberjanes is awesome. That's from Boone.
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Yeah, that's a great book. I'll have to check
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that one out. I haven't... It's sort of like
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Welcome to Night Vale meets The Girl Scouts.
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Ooh, interesting. Or like meets... Actually,
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I think I almost described it as Welcome to Night
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Vale meets Camp Lazlo. Yeah, it's this summer
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camp that is like being embroiled in all this
00:24:01.109 --> 00:24:03.680
weird supernatural stuff. But what's great is
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that the girls are just kind of like, yeah, sure.
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We'll fight werewolves. What else? Like, you
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know, and then it's craft time. And they actually
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put like little activities and things in in the
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comics, like the comic, you know, each one has
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like a playlist on the back or has like a little
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maze. It encourages kids to to interact with
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the physical comic book, you know, to cut out
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a mask or to draw in it. And I think that's I
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think that's really smart and really important
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because I feel like, you know, like we don't
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collect comics. We read comics and then we donate
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them. Like there are very few comics that we
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actually hold onto. And I just feel like the
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more we can get people to see comics and just
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to let children see comics is like something
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that you can interact with and that are kind
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of disposable. Like they're not precious and
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sacred and you have to approach them from one
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way. Like the better off we are. Yeah, we love
00:25:02.829 --> 00:25:08.029
cutting panels out of comics. I feel like people
00:25:08.029 --> 00:25:10.269
freak out when they see us do that, but we do
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that all the time. All the time. And we'll put
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them on our desks. Yeah, there was a great scene
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in Miles... I forget if it was Ultimate Spider
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-Man or... The new Ultimates? I think it was
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the new Ultimates. The Captain America special
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in Ultimates? Yeah, and Tony's just drunk at
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Cap's funeral. Yeah, he's giving the eulogy at
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Cap's funeral, and he's got a martini in his
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hand. And he's clearly kind of drunk. No, it's
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even better. It's a Cosmo. And yeah, there's
00:25:43.900 --> 00:25:46.079
a couple panels I had to do out of that, which
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especially out of context are just like, oh my
00:25:48.319 --> 00:25:51.940
god, Tony, you are... So bad at this you should
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not be advising future generations What um, what
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do you guys think of the whole Marvel superior
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line They well Yeah, they they took When amazing
00:26:09.599 --> 00:26:14.299
quote -unquote ended for now When amazing 700
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came out they switched to superior spider -man
00:26:19.390 --> 00:26:22.150
And now, coming up, I've learned that they're
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also going to be doing a Superior Iron Man, which
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supposedly is spinning out of the events of Avengers
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X -Men Access. I don't know. Our Spider -Man
00:26:32.789 --> 00:26:35.369
is miles. We don't read the regular Spider -Man.
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I was reading Superior, and it was really interesting,
00:26:39.690 --> 00:26:46.150
but it got weirdly rapey on a number of levels.
00:26:47.259 --> 00:26:50.200
Yeah, and it just sort of became too uncomfortable
00:26:50.200 --> 00:26:53.339
for me That's what happens when you have the
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mind of like an 80 year old Doc Ock and spider
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-man's body Yeah, well not just that but like
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cuz I try to pick it up again when Peter came
00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:03.380
back, but then it's like oh my god I have a why
00:27:03.380 --> 00:27:07.839
you know kind of wife like what like it just
00:27:07.839 --> 00:27:15.089
like it just became really Icky yeah She'd know
00:27:15.089 --> 00:27:17.730
it's not the most mature response and clearly
00:27:17.730 --> 00:27:20.930
that's a really interesting thing to explore
00:27:20.930 --> 00:27:23.410
and I totally recommend that. I like other books
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that do other things like that. I loved Bedlam.
00:27:28.589 --> 00:27:33.910
There's something about Peter Parker that to
00:27:33.910 --> 00:27:36.269
have that happen to him did not click for me
00:27:36.269 --> 00:27:40.740
as a fan. See, I thought Superior was refreshing
00:27:40.740 --> 00:27:43.480
because I've said this many, many times in the
00:27:43.480 --> 00:27:45.019
two and a half, three years that I've done this
00:27:45.019 --> 00:27:47.299
podcast, that there's only so many times where
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I can see, you know, 616 Universe Peter Parker
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fight Doc Ock or fight Green God. There's only
00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:55.160
so many situations you can see him fight those
00:27:55.160 --> 00:27:58.960
characters. And I thought doing Superior with
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creating this whole other... Bag of worms was
00:28:02.750 --> 00:28:08.049
so interesting Excited about these changes. They're
00:28:08.049 --> 00:28:10.690
coming up because like I feel like I've read
00:28:10.690 --> 00:28:14.089
every potential Steve Rogers Captain America
00:28:14.089 --> 00:28:18.309
book I Like every potential matchup and team
00:28:18.309 --> 00:28:21.190
up I can think of so I like the idea of replacing
00:28:21.190 --> 00:28:24.950
him like it was up to me I would replace every
00:28:24.950 --> 00:28:27.390
character that was introduced in the 60s in Marvel
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with characters introduced in the 70s and 80s,
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and I would slowly start to phase out every 10
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years, just phase out older characters and replace
00:28:35.890 --> 00:28:37.529
them with new characters. Well, not even in just
00:28:37.529 --> 00:28:40.900
Marvel, although, like, I love... Kate Bishop
00:28:40.900 --> 00:28:44.079
as Hawkeye. Yeah, Kate Bishop's a much more interesting
00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:46.039
Hawkeye than Clint Barton at this point. But
00:28:46.039 --> 00:28:48.960
like, my favorite Batman was still Dick Bats.
00:28:49.380 --> 00:28:51.460
Like when Dick Grayson was Batman, like Black
00:28:51.460 --> 00:28:54.119
Mirror is one of the best Batman graphic novels.
00:28:54.539 --> 00:28:57.660
And it was so refreshing, you know, and I loved
00:28:57.660 --> 00:29:02.480
Dick Grayson as Batman. And I know why they don't
00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:05.480
do it. Like, I get it from like a business standpoint,
00:29:05.480 --> 00:29:08.740
but it is really interesting. because I feel
00:29:08.740 --> 00:29:10.900
like you're starting to have a weird challenge
00:29:10.900 --> 00:29:14.460
where by keeping the same characters around for
00:29:14.460 --> 00:29:17.799
so long they're essentially growing out of their
00:29:17.799 --> 00:29:20.599
core conflict. Like the reason why I like Miles
00:29:20.599 --> 00:29:22.980
Morales is that like, and they haven't done this
00:29:22.980 --> 00:29:25.519
for a while, I really love Dan Slott's Spider
00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:27.660
-Man because he finally sort of had his shit
00:29:27.660 --> 00:29:30.440
together. And for a long time I couldn't read
00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:32.079
Spider -Man because like it's one thing for Miles
00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:35.660
Morales like, what is it like? 13, 14 year old
00:29:35.660 --> 00:29:37.660
kid not to have his shit together. But it was
00:29:37.660 --> 00:29:39.279
another thing when like Peter Parker was like
00:29:39.279 --> 00:29:41.980
almost, Peter Parker was like 30 and like still
00:29:41.980 --> 00:29:43.680
I couldn't hold that in a job and it was like
00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:46.119
you still won't have this figured out. Like,
00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:48.539
it stopped being, it's sort of like when they
00:29:48.539 --> 00:29:51.119
made Rent the Movie and it's like everyone's
00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:52.900
30 and it's like maybe you people should just
00:29:52.900 --> 00:29:55.140
pay your rent because it's not happening at this
00:29:55.140 --> 00:29:58.579
point. Like. You're not 19 year old Bohemians
00:29:58.579 --> 00:30:03.599
anymore. Yeah, now you're just weird. No, I the
00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:07.099
only so far and it's gonna surprise a lot of
00:30:07.099 --> 00:30:09.140
listeners because everyone that's been listening
00:30:09.140 --> 00:30:12.720
to this show knows I'm a huge Dick Grayson Nightwing
00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:17.200
fan and damn you to dildo for killing him jerk
00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:22.500
But the only Dick Grayson is Batman story I've
00:30:22.500 --> 00:30:25.819
read to this point is gates of Gotham I want
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to read more but gates of Gotham was awesome.
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Go get a collection called Batman the black mirror
00:30:32.829 --> 00:30:36.809
That's like, it's Scott Snyder, Francesco Francovia,
00:30:37.390 --> 00:30:42.150
and Jock. Because they do a thing where they
00:30:42.150 --> 00:30:45.630
alternate on Francovia's issues, it's following
00:30:45.630 --> 00:30:49.509
Dick more, and on Jock's issue, it's following
00:30:49.509 --> 00:30:53.109
Commissioner Gordon more, as they're trying to
00:30:53.109 --> 00:30:56.410
solve the same mystery, but coming at it from
00:30:56.410 --> 00:30:59.599
different angles. And it's a really interesting
00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:02.119
story and it's got this really interesting theme
00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:06.400
of the idea of Gotham being this black mirror
00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:10.259
that sort of shows you the worst of yourself
00:31:10.259 --> 00:31:13.279
and you either sort of succumb to it or overcome
00:31:13.279 --> 00:31:17.000
it. And the idea being that characters like Joker
00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:19.880
and Riddler and all those people succumbed to
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:23.380
it and people like Batman overcame it, you know?
00:31:24.549 --> 00:31:26.890
Plus you start to really see I felt like that's
00:31:26.890 --> 00:31:30.450
where you first started to see some of the really
00:31:30.450 --> 00:31:36.069
cool things that Snyder did in terms of like
00:31:36.069 --> 00:31:38.089
interacting with the art and the page layout
00:31:38.089 --> 00:31:39.710
I really felt like that's where you first start
00:31:39.710 --> 00:31:41.990
to see things that you know like in Court of
00:31:41.990 --> 00:31:46.390
Owls where they did Batman trapped in the maze
00:31:46.390 --> 00:31:48.950
and it's rotating so that if you follow the rotation
00:31:48.950 --> 00:31:53.369
you are also trapped in the maze And I felt like
00:31:53.369 --> 00:31:56.029
you start to see the beginnings of that playfulness.
00:31:56.410 --> 00:31:58.710
And that was actually something that really,
00:31:58.710 --> 00:32:03.849
really inspired me. Like that and the Young Avengers
00:32:03.849 --> 00:32:07.910
run that Guien did. Yeah, McKelvey and Guien.
00:32:07.930 --> 00:32:09.710
Yeah, McKelvey and Guien, where they had like
00:32:09.710 --> 00:32:11.950
the, there was like a Novart fight scene where
00:32:11.950 --> 00:32:15.670
they literally diagrammed the room and drew like
00:32:15.670 --> 00:32:18.349
seven Novars and like labeled it like almost
00:32:18.349 --> 00:32:22.400
like a catalog page. And that really was something
00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:25.579
that inspired me when I was working on Windblade,
00:32:25.819 --> 00:32:31.180
just to see what new ways can we push the art
00:32:31.180 --> 00:32:34.059
and the writing's interaction. Like how can we
00:32:34.059 --> 00:32:36.640
push a physical comic book? I think that's sort
00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:38.720
of what gave us the idea for Metroplex's voice.
00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:42.819
Like having Metroplex be essentially talking
00:32:42.819 --> 00:32:46.559
like all the time on like seven different levels.
00:32:48.779 --> 00:32:52.200
I remember when we, for myself, Amy, Nicole,
00:32:52.299 --> 00:32:55.039
and Heather teamed up to do the underbass pullback
00:32:55.039 --> 00:32:58.519
crossover for Windblade's first series, I remember
00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:03.220
the first recording and as soon as Chromia said,
00:33:04.380 --> 00:33:06.799
as soon as Windblade said, I'm gonna tell him
00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:10.059
you said that, you know? She's like, no, don't!
00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:15.339
And I'm like, I can no longer hear Ironhide unless
00:33:15.339 --> 00:33:20.180
it's... Thanks for noticing me. Ironhide is essentially
00:33:20.180 --> 00:33:22.700
Eeyore. You turned Ironhide into a Winnie the
00:33:22.700 --> 00:33:27.359
Pooh character. Ironhide has some cool stuff
00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:34.700
coming up. Stop spoiling things. No, yeah, we
00:33:34.700 --> 00:33:38.339
do build up on Ironhide a little bit in upcoming
00:33:38.339 --> 00:33:41.200
issues. Yeah, I know. I actually really wanted
00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:42.980
to spend more time with Ironhide. That's kind
00:33:42.980 --> 00:33:46.279
of like the one sad thing about Windblade, as
00:33:46.279 --> 00:33:49.700
much as I loved everything about Windblade, it's
00:33:49.700 --> 00:33:51.900
like when you're doing a book focused on one
00:33:51.900 --> 00:33:54.759
character, you can't sort of get lost in the
00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:56.400
other characters, but it's like you just want
00:33:56.400 --> 00:33:59.539
to spend more time with them. Like, you just
00:33:59.539 --> 00:34:01.980
want to hang out with Ironhide more. It was a
00:34:01.980 --> 00:34:05.259
Windblade Chromia book that like yearned to be
00:34:05.259 --> 00:34:09.349
a teen series book. Yeah, by the way, I'm really
00:34:09.349 --> 00:34:11.550
sorry. I heard your guys was like last review
00:34:11.550 --> 00:34:15.869
Everyone's always mad about issue four. I'm sorry
00:34:15.869 --> 00:34:25.030
Don't remember what we were angry about I assume
00:34:25.030 --> 00:34:27.949
it was the fact that it was chromia. Yeah Yeah,
00:34:27.969 --> 00:34:30.369
everyone. I that whole month. I kept getting
00:34:30.369 --> 00:34:34.710
people like how could you do this? I you know
00:34:35.050 --> 00:34:40.329
if it had been like honestly if it had been somebody
00:34:40.329 --> 00:34:43.030
like rc or anybody else i probably would have
00:34:43.030 --> 00:34:47.469
been more like chromia to me she's one of four
00:34:47.469 --> 00:34:50.710
of the female autobots she's you know one of
00:34:50.710 --> 00:34:54.349
alita one's crew along with firestar and moonracer
00:34:54.349 --> 00:34:58.130
i mean you did great flushing her character out
00:34:58.130 --> 00:35:00.670
and giving her more depth than just another female
00:35:00.670 --> 00:35:05.619
autobot but I was really expecting something
00:35:05.619 --> 00:35:08.780
other than it was Chromia all along. I don't
00:35:08.780 --> 00:35:11.980
know what I was expecting out of it, but I don't
00:35:11.980 --> 00:35:15.280
remember me being that mad, I'm sure. I think
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:17.139
it was more the other people. But yeah, no one
00:35:17.139 --> 00:35:18.639
was expecting it. That was the funny thing. I
00:35:18.639 --> 00:35:20.980
was so worried, especially by issue three, that
00:35:20.980 --> 00:35:23.880
like everyone was going to know. Like, oh yeah,
00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:26.039
clearly it's Chromia. I'm like, we set this up
00:35:26.039 --> 00:35:28.139
way too much. We've tipped our hand and like
00:35:28.139 --> 00:35:32.760
no one. No one figured it out like one dude on
00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:36.320
like one of the message boards did and then Proceeded
00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:40.460
to talk himself out of it That's how good your
00:35:40.460 --> 00:35:42.619
writing is that you can have people talk themselves
00:35:42.619 --> 00:35:51.380
out of their own opinions Yes, yeah, which I
00:35:51.380 --> 00:35:53.880
liked I liked the idea of iron hide like sort
00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:57.000
of is went to like some weird nihilistic place
00:35:57.179 --> 00:35:59.480
It's like, since there's no my future, there's
00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:05.639
no any future now. Like... Ironhide's biggest
00:36:05.639 --> 00:36:09.219
claim in IDW, I saw the future, now it ain't
00:36:09.219 --> 00:36:16.239
happening. Oh, man. Uh, no, you know, the...
00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:19.920
I think what... I think I was expecting some
00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:23.079
sort of comedy thing, because... And really,
00:36:23.179 --> 00:36:27.190
it's all Sarah's fault, honestly. Sarah did a
00:36:27.190 --> 00:36:30.929
cover for Windblade number three. I think it's
00:36:30.929 --> 00:36:35.670
the regular cover, which it's the one where she's
00:36:35.670 --> 00:36:38.409
got the blood going down her face. Yeah, she's
00:36:38.409 --> 00:36:42.030
crying blood. Yeah. Yeah. As soon as I saw that
00:36:42.030 --> 00:36:45.130
in Solicits, I'm like, hey, it's Lydia from Beetlejuice.
00:36:45.190 --> 00:36:47.230
Where's Michael Keaton when you really need him?
00:36:47.969 --> 00:36:50.730
I really thought it was Lydia from Beetlejuice
00:36:50.730 --> 00:36:55.219
when I saw the cover in Solicits. Like, oh, that's
00:36:55.219 --> 00:37:01.599
so awesome. All right, Jason, what are you currently
00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:03.760
reading? What are you currently paying attention
00:37:03.760 --> 00:37:10.119
to? We read a lot of stuff. So I've actually
00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:13.820
been really getting into this new Fire and Stone
00:37:13.820 --> 00:37:18.860
series that Dark Horse is doing. It's Prometheus,
00:37:19.099 --> 00:37:22.059
Aliens, Predators, and Aliens versus Predator.
00:37:22.789 --> 00:37:28.130
And it's really cool. It's set between Prometheus
00:37:28.130 --> 00:37:34.110
and the first Alien movie. And each one is its
00:37:34.110 --> 00:37:36.210
own series, but then they have elements that
00:37:36.210 --> 00:37:38.369
tie together. But they've put together a really
00:37:38.369 --> 00:37:40.750
good writing team and a really good art team.
00:37:41.590 --> 00:37:45.889
And it's really awesome. So that's been really
00:37:45.889 --> 00:37:52.369
cool. And then... I'm a big fan of Rat Queens
00:37:52.369 --> 00:37:58.070
over at the Image, which is essentially a D &D
00:37:58.070 --> 00:38:01.409
party of four 20 -something -year -old women.
00:38:02.829 --> 00:38:06.190
If you really were an adventuring party and you
00:38:06.190 --> 00:38:09.829
just came out of a dungeon with 10 ,000 gold
00:38:09.829 --> 00:38:13.969
and no job to have to go to in the morning, you
00:38:13.969 --> 00:38:17.420
would not be like... Nice upstanding noble people
00:38:17.420 --> 00:38:20.780
you would be like drunk and disorderly and your
00:38:20.780 --> 00:38:22.699
people that have literally chosen to kill for
00:38:22.699 --> 00:38:26.760
money. Yeah And so it's just really interesting
00:38:26.760 --> 00:38:29.960
it's not for women and You know getting into
00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:33.119
all sorts of trouble and you know some of their
00:38:33.119 --> 00:38:36.460
past discretion is catching up with them But
00:38:36.460 --> 00:38:38.800
yeah, no, it's it's really cool. It's by Curtis.
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:41.300
We've been rocked up church. It's really good
00:38:42.829 --> 00:38:46.010
Over at Marvel, I really like Captain Marvel,
00:38:46.510 --> 00:38:51.489
and I'm really enjoying the current X -Men run.
00:38:52.190 --> 00:38:55.190
Although it's interesting, so there's uncanny
00:38:55.190 --> 00:38:58.849
and all -new X -Men, and it fluctuates from time
00:38:58.849 --> 00:39:01.949
to time which one I like more, because they're
00:39:01.949 --> 00:39:06.449
both really good. It's really nice to have the
00:39:06.449 --> 00:39:10.070
original X -Men back, and like... No, it's not.
00:39:10.300 --> 00:39:13.440
I like this. I like this because they're making
00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:16.739
them characters. I mean, it's an interesting
00:39:16.739 --> 00:39:18.480
character thing, but it's like, first of all,
00:39:18.699 --> 00:39:22.440
Beast is a tool. He's just the tooliest tool
00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:26.340
that ever tooled. And it's like, I don't know.
00:39:26.440 --> 00:39:28.599
It's like we have other interesting relationships
00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:32.920
we could be going to. I just miss Jean Grey and
00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:36.619
Jean's back, and she's really cool. And I like
00:39:36.619 --> 00:39:39.800
Kitty being their professor, like Professor K.
00:39:40.219 --> 00:39:45.920
is really fun. But yeah, and then probably over
00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:48.280
at Boom, they have this great book called Suicide
00:39:48.280 --> 00:39:51.159
Risk that Margaret and I are obsessed with, which
00:39:51.159 --> 00:40:01.420
is just awesome. I am kind of going... See, you
00:40:01.420 --> 00:40:03.760
know, you guys mentioned Dick Grayson as Batman.
00:40:04.090 --> 00:40:07.210
And the way I've always looked at Bruce Wayne
00:40:07.210 --> 00:40:09.590
as Batman, like he's the legend. He's the one
00:40:09.590 --> 00:40:13.989
you want to live up to. So boring. OK, well,
00:40:14.110 --> 00:40:18.269
yeah, but here's the thing. Bruce Wayne is the
00:40:18.269 --> 00:40:21.510
legend. No one person is ever going to attain
00:40:21.510 --> 00:40:24.670
or become Bruce Wayne Batman. But Dick Grayson,
00:40:24.750 --> 00:40:27.809
whether it's Robin Nightwing or Batman, he's
00:40:27.809 --> 00:40:32.690
he's DC's everyman character. And when DC and
00:40:32.690 --> 00:40:35.769
the editorial took him and said, Hey, look, we're
00:40:35.769 --> 00:40:37.809
just waiting to give him an eye patch and make
00:40:37.809 --> 00:40:39.789
him the Nick Fury of the DC universe. I'm like,
00:40:39.789 --> 00:40:45.170
yep, I'm out. Once they killed Nightwing is when
00:40:45.170 --> 00:40:49.929
I'm like really turning my back on DC. Now, Gale
00:40:49.929 --> 00:40:52.510
left the book on Batgirl. So they're taking,
00:40:52.670 --> 00:40:55.449
which I'm all for Batgirl being brighter and
00:40:55.449 --> 00:40:58.440
happier and everything else. I just. from seeing
00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:01.440
the preview and everything else for issue 35,
00:41:01.559 --> 00:41:03.780
I don't like the art style. I can already say
00:41:03.780 --> 00:41:05.900
I don't like the art style just from seeing the
00:41:05.900 --> 00:41:09.940
preview. And she looks like she's going to be,
00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:12.019
even though I've talked to the writers on Twitter
00:41:12.019 --> 00:41:13.980
and asked them how old she is, they said she's
00:41:13.980 --> 00:41:16.460
21, in the art style she looks like she's 14.
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:18.000
Really? Yeah. She does look like, I would have
00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:21.420
thought she was 14. That's exactly what I said.
00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:24.780
I said, because I asked them, I said, how old
00:41:24.780 --> 00:41:27.739
is Barbara going to be? They said, they told
00:41:27.739 --> 00:41:31.639
me on Twitter, in Gail's run, she's 21. And that's
00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:33.980
what she's going to be in our run. She doesn't
00:41:33.980 --> 00:41:37.360
look like a 21 -year -old at all. She looks like
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:41.880
she's 14. So I'm going to give Batgirl one or
00:41:41.880 --> 00:41:44.780
two more issues. And if by issue 36 it doesn't
00:41:44.780 --> 00:41:46.780
grab me, I'm dropping the title. Because honestly,
00:41:46.940 --> 00:41:50.389
without Gail writing it, It's lost. Honestly,
00:41:50.389 --> 00:41:53.570
the new Batgirl is the only DC book we're probably
00:41:53.570 --> 00:41:59.570
gonna be reading. Wow. Well, with them cancelling
00:41:59.570 --> 00:42:02.869
Batman Beyond, yeah. We have nothing on our DC
00:42:02.869 --> 00:42:05.989
list except Batgirl and Gotham Academy. They're
00:42:05.989 --> 00:42:08.230
the only books that have interested me in years.
00:42:09.250 --> 00:42:14.650
Well, I mean, it's just... I get that DC is...
00:42:15.860 --> 00:42:18.079
You know, they have a lot of turnover which makes
00:42:18.079 --> 00:42:21.539
it a little hard to like tonally sort of maintain
00:42:21.539 --> 00:42:27.079
characters and this insistence on Sort of this
00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:31.719
very consistent art style It makes it a little
00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:34.719
like like when when new 52 came out like we read
00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:36.900
a bunch of like animal man and things like that
00:42:36.900 --> 00:42:40.119
and it's just It's I just want my books to be
00:42:40.119 --> 00:42:43.440
a little more visually diverse and a little more
00:42:44.329 --> 00:42:47.969
Diverse in terms of of story type and I feel
00:42:47.969 --> 00:42:50.130
like that's not necessarily where DC's headed
00:42:50.130 --> 00:42:52.010
I mean, they kind of keep putting toes into that
00:42:52.010 --> 00:42:55.510
water and that's interesting but and in all honesty,
00:42:55.730 --> 00:42:59.090
like they're not really It doesn't seem like
00:42:59.090 --> 00:43:01.090
the company is super interested in going after
00:43:01.090 --> 00:43:05.269
my personal demographic You know like with the
00:43:05.269 --> 00:43:11.130
whole like bikini thing and you know like soup
00:43:11.130 --> 00:43:13.760
like Wonder Woman getting a second book that's
00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:18.119
her dating superman like that's it's just it's
00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:20.820
um it just doesn't seem like we're the the types
00:43:20.820 --> 00:43:22.940
of readers that dc is looking to court right
00:43:22.940 --> 00:43:28.780
now so yeah um yeah and you know for me the only
00:43:28.780 --> 00:43:31.739
new dc book i'm like i said i already said i'm
00:43:31.739 --> 00:43:34.340
interested in his arc of manner but right now
00:43:34.340 --> 00:43:37.039
i was gonna pick batman back up with this new
00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:40.400
end game arc but with the price being $4 .99
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:44.719
for issue 35. I'm sorry, not digital because
00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:47.159
it's a double issue or something or other. Yeah,
00:43:47.159 --> 00:43:49.159
but is it really double issue? Do they just throw
00:43:49.159 --> 00:43:52.179
a bunch of nonsense from the back? I don't know.
00:43:52.420 --> 00:43:57.380
All is I know is I just I'm still on Batman Eternal
00:43:57.380 --> 00:43:59.619
for that. I'm waiting for that to kind of wrap
00:43:59.619 --> 00:44:05.360
up and end. Batman Beyond 2 .0 got cancelled,
00:44:05.659 --> 00:44:08.880
so that's ending in November. So yeah, I'm pretty
00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:11.699
much at this point. I'm reading Cowl from Image,
00:44:12.980 --> 00:44:16.480
which... That's... You can't say... You can...
00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:19.769
No one should ever say... read Cowl, you know,
00:44:19.909 --> 00:44:21.969
have your kids read Cowl, because I think the
00:44:21.969 --> 00:44:24.889
second issue, the second issue, this is not a
00:44:24.889 --> 00:44:27.789
spoiler for the plot, but the second issue of
00:44:27.789 --> 00:44:29.090
the book, because there are five issues in, the
00:44:29.090 --> 00:44:30.590
second issue of the book, second or third issue,
00:44:30.710 --> 00:44:35.050
I think, one of the guys, one of the police officers
00:44:35.050 --> 00:44:38.630
is fighting with a criminal over a gun, and the
00:44:38.630 --> 00:44:42.849
gun goes off in the guy's pants, quite literally.
00:44:43.179 --> 00:44:47.460
I have the screen cap of this. But I'm really
00:44:47.460 --> 00:44:50.519
liking Cowl. It's by Kyle Higgins and Alex Siegel.
00:44:50.699 --> 00:44:53.440
It's based off of Kyle's short film, The League.
00:44:53.619 --> 00:44:55.940
It's really, really cool. What would happen if
00:44:55.940 --> 00:45:00.760
there was a superheroes labor union in 1960s
00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:07.179
Chicago? So that's really cool. Yeah, I mean,
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:10.280
outside of Batgirl and Batman Eternal, Those
00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:12.480
are the only two DC books I'm getting right now.
00:45:12.780 --> 00:45:14.860
Like I said, I'm looking forward to Arkham Manor.
00:45:16.199 --> 00:45:19.260
Those are the two main DC core titles. I do have
00:45:19.260 --> 00:45:22.480
their licensed title for Masters of the Universe,
00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:24.460
which that's going to be changing come December.
00:45:25.320 --> 00:45:28.679
And then the rest of it is IDW stuff, Turtles
00:45:28.679 --> 00:45:34.420
and Transformers. Turtles is awesome. I don't
00:45:34.420 --> 00:45:36.880
know if you guys are Ninja Turtle fans, but oh
00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:40.079
man, what they've done with that series. He is.
00:45:40.460 --> 00:45:43.659
I don't know. Yeah, I haven't really been following
00:45:43.659 --> 00:45:47.179
it. A lot of my friends tell me this current
00:45:47.179 --> 00:45:49.440
run is really good, but it's one of those things
00:45:49.440 --> 00:45:53.320
of like going back and finding the trades and
00:45:53.320 --> 00:45:55.980
getting started and all that, you know. And just
00:45:55.980 --> 00:45:59.000
going to Comixology, they have them all. Yeah.
00:45:59.699 --> 00:46:02.800
I mean, if you're, all right, well, yeah, I don't
00:46:02.800 --> 00:46:05.460
know. All right, so are you guys pro print or
00:46:05.460 --> 00:46:09.289
pro digital? We're pro anything. I think what
00:46:09.289 --> 00:46:11.949
I really like what I really prefer is the idea
00:46:11.949 --> 00:46:17.550
that I buy my comics in print And then when I
00:46:17.550 --> 00:46:19.389
can't get a hold of them in print I buy them
00:46:19.389 --> 00:46:22.269
digitally So it's like if I'm starting a new
00:46:22.269 --> 00:46:24.030
line, and it's like oh you're out of issue 2
00:46:24.030 --> 00:46:27.230
then I buy issue 2 digitally so digital is sort
00:46:27.230 --> 00:46:37.360
of my Yeah, back up stopgap there are a lot of
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:42.159
people who didn't know sort of how to get them
00:46:42.159 --> 00:46:44.400
from a comic shop or a lot of people who went
00:46:44.400 --> 00:46:46.780
to a comic shop and found them sold out. So I
00:46:46.780 --> 00:46:49.780
like that digital created this really nice sort
00:46:49.780 --> 00:46:53.880
of no barrier, no gateway way for people to get
00:46:53.880 --> 00:46:56.920
the book. I think that's really great. I think
00:46:56.920 --> 00:47:00.900
that's why you're seeing such growth like in
00:47:00.900 --> 00:47:03.579
digital and you're seeing new demographics of
00:47:03.579 --> 00:47:07.429
comic readers find comics through digital. But,
00:47:07.710 --> 00:47:10.389
for me personally, I really like going to our
00:47:10.389 --> 00:47:13.789
shop and meeting our, you know, seeing our guy,
00:47:14.090 --> 00:47:17.730
Judd, at Blastoff Comics. Yeah, Blastoff Comics,
00:47:18.090 --> 00:47:19.849
really great place, very very north Hollywood.
00:47:20.570 --> 00:47:23.690
And, you know, like, it's Wednesday and everybody's
00:47:23.690 --> 00:47:26.630
there and everybody's debating, like, the latest
00:47:26.630 --> 00:47:29.949
comic thing and, you know, it's just fun. It's
00:47:29.949 --> 00:47:33.449
a nice community experience that I worry sometimes,
00:47:33.510 --> 00:47:37.710
like... there's not enough of, you know, for
00:47:37.710 --> 00:47:40.929
comics readers. But no, digital's great. Like,
00:47:40.929 --> 00:47:44.130
currently I'm reading that Sensation comics featuring
00:47:44.130 --> 00:47:47.670
Wonder Woman. I actually subscribe, so like,
00:47:47.809 --> 00:47:49.849
every Thursday morning I wake up and I have a
00:47:49.849 --> 00:47:53.409
new Wonder Woman comic on my Kindle. And that's
00:47:53.409 --> 00:47:57.230
been really fun. I really like that. And, you
00:47:57.230 --> 00:47:59.550
know, it's just, I think that that's a neat business
00:47:59.550 --> 00:48:01.960
model that they should explore more. The idea
00:48:01.960 --> 00:48:04.760
of doing these little 12 -page weekly comics
00:48:04.760 --> 00:48:09.840
is really fun, I think. See, I think for me what
00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:11.440
it is, and I've said this before on the show,
00:48:11.579 --> 00:48:15.159
but haven't said this to you guys, is I was getting
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:18.400
a lot of print issues because I started reading
00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:21.239
comics full -time when Death of the Family was
00:48:21.239 --> 00:48:27.429
going on over at DC, so two years ago. You know,
00:48:27.429 --> 00:48:28.809
I was getting a lot of print, a lot of print.
00:48:28.989 --> 00:48:31.130
I thought at first that digital was just, oh,
00:48:31.150 --> 00:48:35.230
you have to have Kindle, iDevice, whatever. And
00:48:35.230 --> 00:48:37.369
I realized, oh, hey, no, I can just go on their
00:48:37.369 --> 00:48:41.570
website and do it that way. Right on your computer.
00:48:41.730 --> 00:48:43.949
And that's all well and good. And honestly, for
00:48:43.949 --> 00:48:46.610
me at this point, for me to actually get the
00:48:46.610 --> 00:48:49.230
story without, and this is just, I guess, the
00:48:49.230 --> 00:48:51.389
way I am with everything I do in my everyday
00:48:51.389 --> 00:48:54.829
life is, I found that every time I would go to
00:48:54.829 --> 00:48:58.480
sit down and read a comic, I would even if it
00:48:58.480 --> 00:49:03.159
was just a 40 page comic I would end up either
00:49:03.159 --> 00:49:05.940
falling asleep in the chair or something you
00:49:05.940 --> 00:49:09.159
know just something would distract me from reading
00:49:09.159 --> 00:49:11.900
the book and I'm thinking okay well if I'm sitting
00:49:11.900 --> 00:49:14.699
here in front of my computer and comics ology
00:49:14.699 --> 00:49:17.139
has this amazing guided view technology which
00:49:17.139 --> 00:49:19.920
takes you panel by panel Absolutely awesome cannot
00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:21.820
say enough good things about that. I actually
00:49:21.820 --> 00:49:24.059
highly recommend whenever people ask me about
00:49:24.059 --> 00:49:26.559
learning to write comics I think guided view
00:49:26.559 --> 00:49:30.780
is Just a phenomenal learning tool as a writer
00:49:30.780 --> 00:49:34.000
to how to beat out your panels, you know to be
00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:38.400
able to see You know, how are you breaking this
00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:41.659
up as a writer? Some writers obviously do go
00:49:41.659 --> 00:49:45.780
into what panel goes where I'm not one of them
00:49:46.910 --> 00:49:51.530
and the fact that you can watch Guided View almost
00:49:51.530 --> 00:49:55.530
is like a storyboard. I feel like it really helps
00:49:55.530 --> 00:50:00.250
break it away from sometimes the really cool
00:50:00.250 --> 00:50:03.190
and really intentional interaction between panels.
00:50:05.329 --> 00:50:10.110
So I'm very like Guided View. Yeah, I like it
00:50:10.110 --> 00:50:14.090
for the kind of like Forrest Gump aspect of it
00:50:14.090 --> 00:50:16.179
where You never know what you're going to get
00:50:16.179 --> 00:50:20.860
on the next panel. It's a whole new way of doing
00:50:20.860 --> 00:50:23.679
that whole page turner thing where you're like,
00:50:23.900 --> 00:50:26.940
what's going to happen now? I have no idea. Have
00:50:26.940 --> 00:50:30.179
you read any of Mark Wade's Thrillbat comics?
00:50:30.980 --> 00:50:36.300
No. Those are designed to be read online. So
00:50:36.300 --> 00:50:39.780
they're done panel by panel. And they actually
00:50:39.780 --> 00:50:43.659
do a lot of really unique things with the light.
00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:47.260
the idea of the page turn or the reveal, the
00:50:47.260 --> 00:50:50.019
transition from panel to panel. They're actually,
00:50:50.460 --> 00:50:52.059
especially like, if you ever get a chance to
00:50:52.059 --> 00:50:55.840
read, I think it's called Valentine by Alex DeCanti.
00:50:56.300 --> 00:50:58.300
She's one of the first people to really push
00:50:58.300 --> 00:51:02.199
what a digital comic can be and how you can like
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:04.500
really do things when you're doing that panel
00:51:04.500 --> 00:51:06.739
to panel thing that you couldn't do in a book.
00:51:07.500 --> 00:51:12.880
It's really great. Awesome. But Jason, I would
00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:17.119
suggest Turtles. You can get most of the trades
00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:19.420
on Comixology if you want the trade versions
00:51:19.420 --> 00:51:21.039
of it so you don't have to buy the, you know,
00:51:21.199 --> 00:51:24.619
have a multitude of the single issues. It's,
00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:28.460
the current IDW Turtles line, the main Turtles
00:51:28.460 --> 00:51:32.719
line is an entire love letter to the entire franchise.
00:51:32.860 --> 00:51:35.760
It calls back to so many things. It puts in so
00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:40.340
many things. Just amazing. They just wrapped
00:51:40.340 --> 00:51:44.260
up The latest for issue miniseries where they
00:51:44.260 --> 00:51:47.400
actually did a damn good job of doing turtles
00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:51.079
in time in comic form But it made sense for the
00:51:51.079 --> 00:51:54.079
story as to what's going on in the IDW turtles
00:51:54.079 --> 00:52:00.539
verse So that that was pretty awesome I Am getting
00:52:00.539 --> 00:52:07.460
a lot of static from you guys Sounds like somebody's
00:52:07.460 --> 00:52:11.420
blowing all over the place there we go All right,
00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:15.539
51 17. All right kind of wrapping this thing
00:52:15.539 --> 00:52:20.960
up here What do you guys have going on for work
00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:26.260
related comic stuff marigold? That you can actually
00:52:26.260 --> 00:52:31.739
talk about exactly well Not as much as you think
00:52:31.739 --> 00:52:35.760
everything Yeah, I know no well wind blade is
00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:38.440
coming back in in the new combiner wars, which
00:52:38.440 --> 00:52:41.860
we are hard at work on Firing on all cylinders
00:52:41.860 --> 00:52:45.460
and actually this Interview comes out before
00:52:45.460 --> 00:52:48.039
next week. You can see us at New York Comic Con
00:52:48.039 --> 00:52:55.559
Sarah John Livio and me Oh, yeah, and Andrew
00:52:55.559 --> 00:53:00.280
Andrew too So we're doing that and I'm really
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:04.760
excited I got a chance to write a short for Boom
00:53:04.760 --> 00:53:10.349
Studios bravest warriors paralyzed horse which
00:53:10.349 --> 00:53:13.510
is a short story about one of their characters
00:53:13.510 --> 00:53:17.769
who is a horse that becomes completely paralyzed
00:53:17.769 --> 00:53:22.250
because he gains awareness of the entirety of
00:53:22.250 --> 00:53:25.809
existence. And he's sort of in a perpetual state
00:53:25.809 --> 00:53:30.869
of awe. Which is actually really cool. We've
00:53:30.869 --> 00:53:34.929
done some really neat things with that. And yeah,
00:53:34.929 --> 00:53:39.599
I'm working on an OGN right now. That's... I
00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:44.619
can probably talk more about in 2015 That I'm
00:53:44.619 --> 00:53:47.099
very excited about that's definitely it's nice
00:53:47.099 --> 00:53:51.559
to go back to To something a little darker and
00:53:51.559 --> 00:53:54.500
this is definitely probably one of the more messed
00:53:54.500 --> 00:53:57.820
up things that I've written. So Very excited
00:53:57.820 --> 00:54:00.659
to put that out there and then we have quite
00:54:00.659 --> 00:54:04.539
a few TV shows coming out. So That's always fun
00:54:04.539 --> 00:54:10.320
Yeah, which was what can you Which ones can you
00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:13.320
talk about? Gosh, you know, I never really know.
00:54:13.599 --> 00:54:17.000
I mean, obviously, I'm working on Transformers
00:54:17.000 --> 00:54:19.699
Robots in Disguise, which I think this episode
00:54:19.699 --> 00:54:24.300
is supposed to be out 2015. And then I do write
00:54:24.300 --> 00:54:26.159
an episode of Ultimate Spider -Man that hasn't
00:54:26.159 --> 00:54:28.920
come out yet. But I'm not sure when that's going
00:54:28.920 --> 00:54:31.639
to air. Everything else, I'm not sure how much
00:54:31.639 --> 00:54:34.980
I want to broadcast it. But fun things. Since
00:54:34.980 --> 00:54:36.880
you mentioned the Ultimate Spider -Man cartoon.
00:54:36.960 --> 00:54:39.519
I have not been keeping up with that I need to
00:54:39.519 --> 00:54:43.480
but I've seen the advertisements since this is
00:54:43.480 --> 00:54:47.039
Monstober on Disney Channel I've seen the advertisements
00:54:47.039 --> 00:54:49.440
of the first ever Disney Channel live -action
00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:52.579
crossover where the characters from Jesse are
00:54:52.579 --> 00:54:55.920
gonna be on Ultimate Spider -Man What do you
00:54:55.920 --> 00:54:59.650
think of that? I mean, it's a really, I was not
00:54:59.650 --> 00:55:01.369
involved in that. I didn't work on that episode.
00:55:01.449 --> 00:55:04.949
I'm just a gun for hire on that show. But I mean,
00:55:04.949 --> 00:55:08.309
it's a really neat idea. Like the idea of crossing
00:55:08.309 --> 00:55:10.889
over a live action TV series with an animated
00:55:10.889 --> 00:55:13.630
TV series. And I'd be really interested to hear.
00:55:13.869 --> 00:55:16.389
I'm kind of surprised just because live action
00:55:16.389 --> 00:55:19.409
works on a completely different timeline than
00:55:19.409 --> 00:55:25.409
an animation. So I mean, but why not? Why not
00:55:25.409 --> 00:55:28.670
push things a little more? And I'm sure I would
00:55:28.670 --> 00:55:31.269
imagine Jesse has a larger viewing audience than
00:55:31.269 --> 00:55:33.369
Ultimate Spider -Man. So it's probably really
00:55:33.369 --> 00:55:37.289
good for Ultimate Spider -Man. I think if they
00:55:37.289 --> 00:55:39.929
had done the reverse and tried to do like a live
00:55:39.929 --> 00:55:42.389
-action Ultimate Spider -Man shows up in Jesse,
00:55:42.389 --> 00:55:44.809
that would have been weirder. Yeah, that would
00:55:44.809 --> 00:55:48.849
have been much weirder. No, that wouldn't have
00:55:48.849 --> 00:55:52.610
worked. All right. Where can the good folks interact
00:55:52.610 --> 00:55:54.610
with you guys online, Jason? Whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:55:54.610 --> 00:55:59.460
What about my work? Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, I've
00:55:59.460 --> 00:56:02.039
got a series on Comixology right now called Father
00:56:02.039 --> 00:56:06.920
Robot. That's an all ages comic series that I
00:56:06.920 --> 00:56:10.099
believe issue two is out and issue three is coming
00:56:10.099 --> 00:56:12.880
out soon. It's a five issue series. And you're
00:56:12.880 --> 00:56:16.239
editing on that. Yeah, I'm editing on that. And
00:56:16.239 --> 00:56:21.420
the 215 Inc. is releasing the issues, I believe,
00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:26.699
later this year. And then, yeah, where can they
00:56:26.699 --> 00:56:30.880
find you online, Marika? Yes, well, we're hard
00:56:30.880 --> 00:56:34.320
at work on a new website right now that I should
00:56:34.320 --> 00:56:38.820
be working on right now. So I don't know, how
00:56:38.820 --> 00:56:40.480
much lead time do I have until this actually
00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:46.179
airs? This will go up, most likely, since it's
00:56:46.179 --> 00:56:48.960
a comic episode, it'll go up the eighth. OK,
00:56:48.960 --> 00:56:53.219
let's shoot for it then. You can find me at mscotwriter.
00:56:55.339 --> 00:56:59.340
and you can also find me on Twitter at at Marigold
00:56:59.340 --> 00:57:05.699
Scott and on Tumblr at mscotwrights .com. There,
00:57:06.139 --> 00:57:10.480
mscotwrights .tumblr .com. Oh yes, sorry. And
00:57:10.480 --> 00:57:16.559
then you can follow my monthly podcast, The Previews
00:57:16.559 --> 00:57:19.760
Party, which is part of fanboycomics .net. where
00:57:19.760 --> 00:57:22.260
we talk about upcoming comics. I love Previews
00:57:22.260 --> 00:57:24.119
Party. They go through the Previews magazine
00:57:24.119 --> 00:57:27.039
and talk about like what is upcoming and what,
00:57:27.039 --> 00:57:28.980
you know, they're thinking, what do they think
00:57:28.980 --> 00:57:31.019
about, you know, things that you should be pre
00:57:31.019 --> 00:57:32.900
-ordering. If you don't have time to like wade
00:57:32.900 --> 00:57:35.340
through all of Previews, it's a really great,
00:57:35.619 --> 00:57:40.619
really great segment. Yeah. And then we do, you
00:57:40.619 --> 00:57:44.139
can find my writing on Comics Beat. I do the
00:57:44.139 --> 00:57:48.219
monthly sales analysis articles. And then I'm
00:57:48.219 --> 00:57:52.019
on Twitter at Jason Enright. And I think my Tumblr
00:57:52.019 --> 00:57:57.059
is just JasonEnright .tumblr .com. And yeah,
00:57:57.480 --> 00:57:59.440
and we'll be, we're there to chat. If you find
00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:01.460
one of us on Tumblr, you'll see the other one,
00:58:01.579 --> 00:58:06.789
because we're always blogging. Yeah. Alright,
00:58:06.789 --> 00:58:10.289
and the wind blade trade paperback is currently
00:58:10.289 --> 00:58:13.329
out The link will be in the show notes to Jason's
00:58:13.329 --> 00:58:16.110
post on tumblr on how you can get your copy of
00:58:16.110 --> 00:58:20.730
wind blade I always love reading some of those
00:58:20.730 --> 00:58:24.010
posts that you put up for that For your tumblr
00:58:24.010 --> 00:58:28.570
regarding how to get comics because it it's our
00:58:28.570 --> 00:58:30.929
number one question It is my number one question
00:58:30.929 --> 00:58:33.050
that people ask when I was pushing wind blade
00:58:33.440 --> 00:58:36.380
Was always getting like but how do you do it
00:58:36.380 --> 00:58:38.559
and what if I live in the middle of nowhere blah
00:58:38.559 --> 00:58:42.699
blah blah blah blah like Yeah, I I wish there
00:58:42.699 --> 00:58:45.619
wasn't such a barrier to entry on comics But
00:58:45.619 --> 00:58:48.900
we try to make it as easy as possible for people
00:58:48.900 --> 00:58:53.780
to find these things Absolutely, absolutely I
00:58:53.780 --> 00:58:55.840
have no idea what's coming up next in the pull
00:58:55.840 --> 00:59:00.440
bag. Honestly, no clue. My plans are all over
00:59:00.440 --> 00:59:03.659
the place. We may be talking about The first
00:59:03.659 --> 00:59:06.699
two volumes of John Layman's Chew, we may be
00:59:06.699 --> 00:59:11.820
talking about... We may be talking about More
00:59:11.820 --> 00:59:13.920
Than Meets the Eye or Robots in Disguise 208
00:59:13.920 --> 00:59:17.719
and 209. I have no idea what's coming up. Alright,
00:59:17.719 --> 00:59:22.059
so I have been TF2 and Mike with... I'm Margaret
00:59:22.059 --> 00:59:25.860
Scott. And Jason Menright. Make your greatest
00:59:25.860 --> 00:59:28.239
game in the comics and we will catch you next
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Hi, this is Margaret Scott, the first female
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writer in Transformers Comics, and you are listening
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to the Geekcast Radio Network. Welcome to The
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Polebags Origins episodes. Join TFG1 Mike as
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he grills this week's guest on just how they
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got into reading comics and more. So sit back,
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relax, and enjoy The Polebag. Welcome to the
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pull bag. This is a very special origins episode
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It's gonna kind of serve as an interview as well.
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I don't know how we're going to market this at
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this point I am of course your host TF Joe and
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Mike And we've had a few hiccups in the pull
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bag schedule and how I want to get things done
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We are supposed to be coming up on episode 89
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in two giant size episodes uh... ninety and ninety
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one in there is it now eighty nine ninety and
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then ninety and ninety one and screw that up
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eighty nine ninety and ninety one and ninety
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two are supposed to be two giant sized episodes
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coming up i have no idea what's going to be putting
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into them originally it was going to be countdowns
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but for now uh... it's an origins episode for
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those of you that don't know what the origins
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episodes are first of all go back and listen
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any of the ones i've done previously second of
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all it's myself getting together with friends
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with people I know, people I'm interested in
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finding out how they get into comic reading,
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and this time we have Windblade Returns, oh,
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I'm sorry, Marigrid Scott, hello. Hi. And we've
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brought along her husband, Jason Enright, who
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actually started, I started following on Twitter
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shortly after he started teasing me about Beast
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Hunters. Predacons rising last year. Because
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you guys are an evil team when it comes to Twitter.
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He's the evil part. I'm the team part. So this
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is going to work like any other Origins episode.
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Jason, let's start with you. Was there a parent,
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a relative, a friend, who was it that said here
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kid here's a comic go bother me and what comic
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was it you know don't bother me go away what
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comic was it when you first as a kid so i was
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uh... really into the x -men animated series
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as a kid and uh... i believe the very first comic
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i ever got was uh... x -men number one the jim
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lee you know like with the fold out gate the
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gatefold cover with Cyclops and Wolverine and
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everybody on it. And I believe my dad got that
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for me at a flea market. It was a comic that
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was a few years old because I just would not
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shut up about the X -Men. And then from there,
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I was one of those kids who didn't have a regular
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place to go to get comics. So it was like, you'd
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see them on a spinner rack at the supermarket
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or at a bookstore. And every once in a while,
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I would pick up something and it was always like
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you had no idea what was going on or you know
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where where the story was but it was pretty much
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for me in the early days kind of always x -men
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or x -men related um until i was like a teenager
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and got my own car and started being able to
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like search out comic shops but yeah so a good
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mix of both my parents buying me comics whenever
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i would find them on a spinner rack sort of got
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me started Who is your favorite X character?
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Cyclops. Really? You like emo boy? Really? Emo
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boy? Are you talking about Wolverine? No, Cyclops
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is the emo one. Gene! Gene! Why won't you believe
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me? Oh, I'm sorry. He's a man who's devoted to
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the love of his life. That's so terrible. What,
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are we fifteen and we're afraid of cooties? Oh
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my gosh. He probably is in most incarnations.
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There's actually a really interesting thing.
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They found that people who were introduced to
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the X -Men prior to the 90s are fans of Cyclops.
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And people who were introduced to X -Men later,
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when they started shifting it to make the book
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more about Wolverine, and they turned Cyclops
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into essentially the guy who enforces the rules,
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that they tend to not like Cyclops as much. You
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can see a very definitive line in sort of when
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people We're introduced to the X -Men as to which
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side of the Cyclops Line they're on But we don't
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be wrong. I grew up with the 92 series, but it
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just even in that going back and looking at that
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cartoon Oh, yeah, they totally screw up Cyclops
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like they don't do a good job And you think that
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they would because I mean Claremont was on that
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series. Yeah, but Pretty much the best X -Men
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stories are from like the 70s and 80s And you
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go back and read those and Cyclops is the man.
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And it's really interesting because until later
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in the 90s, he really is the main character.
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And then what's really interesting is they had
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always planned to retire him. After Gene died,
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he was supposed to sort of quit and go away and
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retire. And the idea was supposed to be that
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the promise of the X -Men is that you could fight
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for a while and then he'll live a normal life.
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But then, because of editorial, because it's
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comics and you can't ever give anyone a happy
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ending, they kept pulling him back in. And over
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time, I feel like they kind of slowly grew into
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his character. Because I don't think he works
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as, like, a Lifer. You know? Mm -hmm. What were
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you going to say, Marigold? Oh, nothing. He just
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cut out for a minute, so I was like... Oh, okay.
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No, he's still here. All right, what about you,
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Marigold? I don't remember. It's... As earlier
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last was last year. We did the interview with
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you. I think sometime last year I forget when
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it was it was during the time when prime was
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still fresh so What about you growing up and
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reading comics? How did you get into it? Um I
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actually got into comics comic book specifically
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through Sailor Moon Mango was my first introduction
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to comics and because I mean, quite frankly,
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the Western comics weren't super accepting of
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women at the time. And like Jason, I also had
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the thing where I love 90s X -Men and I went
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to go find a 90s X -Men comic and it's like issue
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376 and I had no idea what was going on. And
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of course, they're missing issue 375 and like
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I thought they come out every Wednesday. Why
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is all the other X books out? But this one isn't
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out. Like, I just I couldn't even deal with it.
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So I read Manga for a really long time, and then
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Jason finally got me to make the jump to Western
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Comics. So thanks, hon. Yeah. And really, we
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should thank Greenbrain. Yes. When we were younger.
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Yeah, when we were younger, this couple opened
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up a comic book store in our hometown. I think
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there were other comic book stores in the area
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before then, but that was the really first, like,
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very friendly one. And they would do really big,
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like, free comic book day celebrations and stuff
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like that. And that's where I had my first pull
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list. And I feel like that was really integral
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to both of us getting into, like, regular monthly
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comics. Yeah, you had a pull list there. I had
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a pull list there. My mom has a pull list there
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now. Like, they're a really great store. Um,
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but yeah, I think my first my first western comic
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actually was an idw comic called lore Um that
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actually sort of like went on like a year's long
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hiatus So I never got to read the ending So I
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finally actually I think like my last convention
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idw put out the like lore like the their big
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giant editions, you know the complete edition
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and I saw it and i'm just like Wondering over
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to John like oh my gosh. This was my first real
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comic that I loved I never got to read the ending
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So I weaseled a copy But I did that and and the
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first comic cover I can remember when I've I'd
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already been reading comics for a long time but
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like by the time I was like this is my thing
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was a One of Greg Rucka's Wonder Woman comics
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and it was the one where she was I just moved
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in New York and it was the one where it was thing
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was an anniversary cover and she's leaping off
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a taxi or like flying above a taxi and I was
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like, that's it like Awesome awesome. Alright,
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so as you guys are growing up You know the the
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teen slash young adult years. What were you reading
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back then Margarit? Very much. I was reading
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a ton of Sailor Moon much to the chagrin of my
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family Because my mom loved buying us books like
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that was the rule is that you could always there
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was always money for books like Right, but she
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hated manga cuz like we would buy it and then
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like by the time you get home You're done with
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it. It's like I just paid eight dollars for that
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But as far as superheroes goes, I was watching
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a lot of Transformers Beast Wars, Batman the
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Animated Series, 90s X -Men. Also, I was a huge
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90s X -Men fan. Man, there was a lot of fights
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on the playground over 90s X -Men. Who got to
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be who? That was like a blood sport. No, the
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the blood sport for me was in kindergarten kid
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between kindergarten and third grade Who got
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to be optimist prime and who got stuck being
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a shark decon because that they they had those
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stupid plugs on their tails Because everybody
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thought the shark decons were like you that's
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the cold virus. You don't want to be a bug I
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don't know. It was really weird back in the 80s
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Yeah, ours was always all the women fighting
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over who didn't have to be Jean Grey. Cause she
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couldn't do anything until she needed to do something
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and then she could do it and then she'd pass
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out. And she was like, what the heck? Yeah, no,
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literally, I remember like getting stuck being
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Jean Grey and someone was like, well, you have
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to pass out now. Like, and I'm like, I'm not
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just going to pass out. Like, yeah, no, you have
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to pass out. Yeah, that was the revenge. when
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they finally did the phoenix then it was like
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yeah eat it i'm jean grey now guys you said you
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said she always have to pass out that reminds
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me of um him and shira secret of the sword and
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when when she faints to to when adora faints
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to basically fool uh... web store in cobra khan
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and skeletons in the background says eh, just
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like a woman. It's just so hilarious. My throat
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isn't that great today to do Skeletor, but what
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about you, Jason? What were you reading as a
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teenager slash young adult? Well, in the early
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2000s they did the ultimate lines and that was
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really huge for me because like we were talking
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about, you know, you have the problem where you
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go in and you'd want to read X -Men or you'd
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want to read Avengers and there was like 400
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issues. So the Ultimate lines were really great
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because they were a new jumping on point. You
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could start at number one and that was when I
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first started reading things monthly because
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I was reading Ultimate Spider -Man and Ultimate
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Avenger or I guess it was called Ultimates and
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then Ultimate X -Men. I still remember really
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enjoying Ultimate X -Men was probably really
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cool until they like killed half the team and
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alternate them. But yeah, so yeah, that was pretty
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influential in my teen years. Thinking around
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that time too, like Kingdom Come came out. I
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remember that being really big and influential.
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Oh, you're so about Kingdom Come. Yeah, that
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was really cool. I don't know if you know this,
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but we were dating each other in high school,
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so we knew each other in our teen years. Yeah.
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Wow, and there was a there was a great series
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by Straszinski called rising stars. That was
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really good and I remember that was like The
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guy at the comic shop Dan like was like I think
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you really like this and so he started pulling
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me the issues That was really cool Absolutely,
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yeah All right work affiliations aside as a comic
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reader The age -old question is Marvel or DC?
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Marvel. So... Yeah, Marvel. Wow. Yeah. No question.
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I mean, there are some things. Like, I'm a big
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Superman fan. And I'm a big Wonder Woman fan.
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Yeah, but both of those characters, they very
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rarely do well. So it's kind of hard to, like,
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really get behind them. What about the fact that
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they're married now? I haven't read a DC comic.
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Actually, we just read Gotham Academy. That was
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the first DC comic I've read in like three years.
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If you guys want to gush about that, fine, but
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I don't think I can talk about that one. Gotham
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Academy? Yeah. I haven't read it yet, so. The
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way that I've described it is it's what if Harry
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Potter took place in the US instead of the UK.
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That's the way I've described it in several tweets
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and Facebook posts, and I think I have to at
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least check out the second issue to see if it
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gets any better for me, but after the first issue,
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it was just one of those things where... Well,
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Harry Potter made Warner Brothers, like, billions
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of dollars, so I think we're onto something there.
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I think if DC was smart, they would start making
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all of their comics for 14 -year -old girls.
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No, because 14 -year -old girls are the largest
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growing comics readership right now. And if they
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want to make money, that's the target they should
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go after. I'll say this about Gotham Academy.
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It's obviously, as you said, targeted at that
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age group. And I'm all for having fun in comics.
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it there just too many flake bruce wayne is just
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kind of there there's nothing really that there
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wasn't enough explanation of the characters for
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me in the first issue so i guess that all check
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out the second one but if it doesn't impressed
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me by then i'm i have other comics that i'm more
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interested in reading and read would rather spend
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money on uh... i will say that i'm really interested
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to see what they do with arkham manor Putting
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Arkham Asylum in Wayne Manor later this month.
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That's gonna be interesting for me All right,
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so I went the Marvel route overall Marigold who
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is your favorite Marvel hero and villain? That's
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not even fair This is the easiest question ever
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My favorite Marvel villain right now is... I
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have a weird love for Madame Masque. I have a
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lot of personal backstory, like my own headcanon
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with Madame Masque. I was wishing they'd do more
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with her. I think she's a really neat concept
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for a villain. In terms of a hero, probably...
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right now would be Miles Morales. Like, I really
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like, I really, really like him. And I really
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feel like him and Ms. Marvel are just a real
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breath of fresh air, like getting back to the
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actual teenage superhero, you know? And that
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real wish fulfillment and that great combination
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of like, I don't know what the heck I'm doing,
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like, and like superhero -ness. So I've been
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really enjoying them. What about you, Jason?
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You said this is an easy question. You already
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mentioned Cyclops. Cyclops and Magneto are the
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hero and villain, the greatest characters in
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the Marvel universe. Although Magneto's kind
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of an anti -hero now, so you gotta pick a new
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villain. I don't know. He's still murdering people
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left and right. So I don't see how that's not
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villainous. But yeah. No, Cyclops and Magneto.
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Although I gotta say, Ms. Marvel is... probably
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the best comic being created right now. I love
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that book. Except your wife. I don't know. Well,
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I did say outside of stuff that is being worked
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on, so I was trying to, like... You and Sarah
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are great, but you're not topping this Marvel
00:18:45.960 --> 00:18:50.839
right now. Wow! My husband just talked himself
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onto the couch. I was gonna say, man, that dog
00:18:55.279 --> 00:19:00.200
house looks pretty full right now. No, you're
00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:01.000
probably right there. They're close, though.
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They're close. Alright, outside of Transformers,
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what other IDW titles are you guys reading right
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now? Oh, um, I started reading Little Nemo, which
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is, the art is just gorgeous. It's really, really
00:19:18.900 --> 00:19:21.079
pretty. Hold on, I'm pulling up our pull list
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because I'm having trouble remembering all the
00:19:23.180 --> 00:19:25.579
things on it. Yeah, what else are we reading
00:19:25.579 --> 00:19:29.059
from? Hold on, I'll pull it up. We're reading
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Wild Blue Yonder, that was good. Yeah, that's
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good. I think that's on hiatus right now. yeah
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um oh i'm excited for edward scissorhands is
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coming up soon that's oh yeah that looks really
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great and uh and dungeons of dragons which sarah's
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doing the covers for that's on our pull list
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those both of those start this month so i don't
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know if those count we are huge dnd nerds so
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they totally had us there I was really into the
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last iteration of G .I. Joe, but I haven't picked
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up the new one. I don't know if it already started
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or it's starting really soon, but I'll probably
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check that out. I'll see if they have it at New
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York Comic Con this week. Yeah, I thought the
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G .I. Joe bandwagon when I heard they were going
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to reboot it, so. Yeah, it kind of stinks sometimes
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when they announce they're going to do a reboot
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and the old series still going on and you're
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like, should I? Keep reading Like you're gonna
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do a new number one in six months like yeah But
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yeah I also I really like a lot of the stuff
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that Sarah Gatos is doing with like a lot of
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the kid properties They're doing some really
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neat stuff with like they got a bunch of the
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Cartoon Network properties And they're doing
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this big crossover thing right now called super
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secret crisis war yeah Which is a great jab at?
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That's been really cute. Jim Zub's Samurai Jack
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comic is really good. Yeah, that's surprisingly
00:21:05.849 --> 00:21:09.650
good. Obviously, we're not the target audience
00:21:09.650 --> 00:21:12.549
of those, but it's really, really nice to have
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kids' comics, because it's so hard when you meet
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fans. You know, they have kids and it's like,
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well, can you know, what can my kid read? And
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it's like, not much. I'm not the target audience
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of those, but I still love them. Like I get so
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bored of like dark and gritty and gruesome all
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the time. I love all ages comics. Like, yeah.
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What I don't like about all ages comics is specifically.
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One of the big two they constantly start them
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and then just yank them say well Yeah, there's
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no there's no commitment to them and like like
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it stinks when the only real like true all ages
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comics at Marvel or DC Are the ones that are
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like times their cartoon shows, but then they
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don't feel like really committed to them. Yeah
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Absolutely. Yeah, like I will say that IDW is
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doing So far I've had one good All Ages series
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and one that I just don't... I just didn't think
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that it was... I wanted it to be something different.
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The good one was when they did the Rocky and
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Bullwinkle 4 issue miniseries. That was awesome.
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We just released our episode on the Dexter's
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lab for issue pretty series. Don't get me wrong.
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I was I was 17 18 somewhere around there when
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I was probably yeah, I forget when Dexter's lab
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came out It was a while ago, but I remember watching
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the cartoon as a teenager or whatever else and
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I remember liking certain parts of it and I was
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hoping that the Dexter's Lab miniseries would
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have been something different than what it was.
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I was hoping it would be more focused on Dexter
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versus Mandark than just another lesson of Dexter
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needing Dee Dee, et cetera, et cetera. So yeah,
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I mean, the other all -ages comics that I have
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read in the past are like Beware the Batman and...
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Scooby -Doo team up and that kind of stuff Scooby
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-Doo team up. I stopped reading because I just
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Don't care about the team ups that you're doing
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right now. Yeah The tough thing with like a team
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up book or crossover book is like if you don't
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like who they're crossing over with Yeah, yeah
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Have you been reading Lumberjanes? We were reading
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Lumberjanes for a while. That was really interesting.
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Yeah, Lumberjanes is awesome. That's from Boone.
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Yeah, that's a great book. I'll have to check
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that one out. I haven't... It's sort of like
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Welcome to Night Vale meets The Girl Scouts.
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Ooh, interesting. Or like meets... Actually,
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I think I almost described it as Welcome to Night
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Vale meets Camp Lazlo. Yeah, it's this summer
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camp that is like being embroiled in all this
00:24:01.109 --> 00:24:03.680
weird supernatural stuff. But what's great is
00:24:03.680 --> 00:24:05.880
that the girls are just kind of like, yeah, sure.
00:24:05.940 --> 00:24:08.940
We'll fight werewolves. What else? Like, you
00:24:08.940 --> 00:24:15.079
know, and then it's craft time. And they actually
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put like little activities and things in in the
00:24:18.640 --> 00:24:20.859
comics, like the comic, you know, each one has
00:24:20.859 --> 00:24:23.440
like a playlist on the back or has like a little
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maze. It encourages kids to to interact with
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the physical comic book, you know, to cut out
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a mask or to draw in it. And I think that's I
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think that's really smart and really important
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because I feel like, you know, like we don't
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collect comics. We read comics and then we donate
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them. Like there are very few comics that we
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actually hold onto. And I just feel like the
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more we can get people to see comics and just
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to let children see comics is like something
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that you can interact with and that are kind
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of disposable. Like they're not precious and
00:24:55.650 --> 00:24:58.009
sacred and you have to approach them from one
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way. Like the better off we are. Yeah, we love
00:25:02.829 --> 00:25:08.029
cutting panels out of comics. I feel like people
00:25:08.029 --> 00:25:10.269
freak out when they see us do that, but we do
00:25:10.269 --> 00:25:13.869
that all the time. All the time. And we'll put
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them on our desks. Yeah, there was a great scene
00:25:20.250 --> 00:25:23.210
in Miles... I forget if it was Ultimate Spider
00:25:23.210 --> 00:25:26.740
-Man or... The new Ultimates? I think it was
00:25:26.740 --> 00:25:28.440
the new Ultimates. The Captain America special
00:25:28.440 --> 00:25:31.859
in Ultimates? Yeah, and Tony's just drunk at
00:25:31.859 --> 00:25:35.039
Cap's funeral. Yeah, he's giving the eulogy at
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Cap's funeral, and he's got a martini in his
00:25:37.920 --> 00:25:41.799
hand. And he's clearly kind of drunk. No, it's
00:25:41.799 --> 00:25:43.900
even better. It's a Cosmo. And yeah, there's
00:25:43.900 --> 00:25:46.079
a couple panels I had to do out of that, which
00:25:46.079 --> 00:25:48.319
especially out of context are just like, oh my
00:25:48.319 --> 00:25:51.940
god, Tony, you are... So bad at this you should
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not be advising future generations What um, what
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do you guys think of the whole Marvel superior
00:26:01.180 --> 00:26:09.599
line They well Yeah, they they took When amazing
00:26:09.599 --> 00:26:14.299
quote -unquote ended for now When amazing 700
00:26:14.299 --> 00:26:18.740
came out they switched to superior spider -man
00:26:19.390 --> 00:26:22.150
And now, coming up, I've learned that they're
00:26:22.150 --> 00:26:25.029
also going to be doing a Superior Iron Man, which
00:26:25.029 --> 00:26:28.730
supposedly is spinning out of the events of Avengers
00:26:28.730 --> 00:26:32.789
X -Men Access. I don't know. Our Spider -Man
00:26:32.789 --> 00:26:35.369
is miles. We don't read the regular Spider -Man.
00:26:35.369 --> 00:26:39.490
I was reading Superior, and it was really interesting,
00:26:39.690 --> 00:26:46.150
but it got weirdly rapey on a number of levels.
00:26:47.259 --> 00:26:50.200
Yeah, and it just sort of became too uncomfortable
00:26:50.200 --> 00:26:53.339
for me That's what happens when you have the
00:26:53.339 --> 00:26:56.200
mind of like an 80 year old Doc Ock and spider
00:26:56.200 --> 00:26:58.519
-man's body Yeah, well not just that but like
00:26:58.519 --> 00:27:00.440
cuz I try to pick it up again when Peter came
00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:03.380
back, but then it's like oh my god I have a why
00:27:03.380 --> 00:27:07.839
you know kind of wife like what like it just
00:27:07.839 --> 00:27:15.089
like it just became really Icky yeah She'd know
00:27:15.089 --> 00:27:17.730
it's not the most mature response and clearly
00:27:17.730 --> 00:27:20.930
that's a really interesting thing to explore
00:27:20.930 --> 00:27:23.410
and I totally recommend that. I like other books
00:27:23.410 --> 00:27:25.710
that do other things like that. I loved Bedlam.
00:27:28.589 --> 00:27:33.910
There's something about Peter Parker that to
00:27:33.910 --> 00:27:36.269
have that happen to him did not click for me
00:27:36.269 --> 00:27:40.740
as a fan. See, I thought Superior was refreshing
00:27:40.740 --> 00:27:43.480
because I've said this many, many times in the
00:27:43.480 --> 00:27:45.019
two and a half, three years that I've done this
00:27:45.019 --> 00:27:47.299
podcast, that there's only so many times where
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I can see, you know, 616 Universe Peter Parker
00:27:50.240 --> 00:27:52.960
fight Doc Ock or fight Green God. There's only
00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:55.160
so many situations you can see him fight those
00:27:55.160 --> 00:27:58.960
characters. And I thought doing Superior with
00:27:58.960 --> 00:28:02.750
creating this whole other... Bag of worms was
00:28:02.750 --> 00:28:08.049
so interesting Excited about these changes. They're
00:28:08.049 --> 00:28:10.690
coming up because like I feel like I've read
00:28:10.690 --> 00:28:14.089
every potential Steve Rogers Captain America
00:28:14.089 --> 00:28:18.309
book I Like every potential matchup and team
00:28:18.309 --> 00:28:21.190
up I can think of so I like the idea of replacing
00:28:21.190 --> 00:28:24.950
him like it was up to me I would replace every
00:28:24.950 --> 00:28:27.390
character that was introduced in the 60s in Marvel
00:28:27.390 --> 00:28:30.349
with characters introduced in the 70s and 80s,
00:28:30.349 --> 00:28:33.250
and I would slowly start to phase out every 10
00:28:33.250 --> 00:28:35.890
years, just phase out older characters and replace
00:28:35.890 --> 00:28:37.529
them with new characters. Well, not even in just
00:28:37.529 --> 00:28:40.900
Marvel, although, like, I love... Kate Bishop
00:28:40.900 --> 00:28:44.079
as Hawkeye. Yeah, Kate Bishop's a much more interesting
00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:46.039
Hawkeye than Clint Barton at this point. But
00:28:46.039 --> 00:28:48.960
like, my favorite Batman was still Dick Bats.
00:28:49.380 --> 00:28:51.460
Like when Dick Grayson was Batman, like Black
00:28:51.460 --> 00:28:54.119
Mirror is one of the best Batman graphic novels.
00:28:54.539 --> 00:28:57.660
And it was so refreshing, you know, and I loved
00:28:57.660 --> 00:29:02.480
Dick Grayson as Batman. And I know why they don't
00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:05.480
do it. Like, I get it from like a business standpoint,
00:29:05.480 --> 00:29:08.740
but it is really interesting. because I feel
00:29:08.740 --> 00:29:10.900
like you're starting to have a weird challenge
00:29:10.900 --> 00:29:14.460
where by keeping the same characters around for
00:29:14.460 --> 00:29:17.799
so long they're essentially growing out of their
00:29:17.799 --> 00:29:20.599
core conflict. Like the reason why I like Miles
00:29:20.599 --> 00:29:22.980
Morales is that like, and they haven't done this
00:29:22.980 --> 00:29:25.519
for a while, I really love Dan Slott's Spider
00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:27.660
-Man because he finally sort of had his shit
00:29:27.660 --> 00:29:30.440
together. And for a long time I couldn't read
00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:32.079
Spider -Man because like it's one thing for Miles
00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:35.660
Morales like, what is it like? 13, 14 year old
00:29:35.660 --> 00:29:37.660
kid not to have his shit together. But it was
00:29:37.660 --> 00:29:39.279
another thing when like Peter Parker was like
00:29:39.279 --> 00:29:41.980
almost, Peter Parker was like 30 and like still
00:29:41.980 --> 00:29:43.680
I couldn't hold that in a job and it was like
00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:46.119
you still won't have this figured out. Like,
00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:48.539
it stopped being, it's sort of like when they
00:29:48.539 --> 00:29:51.119
made Rent the Movie and it's like everyone's
00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:52.900
30 and it's like maybe you people should just
00:29:52.900 --> 00:29:55.140
pay your rent because it's not happening at this
00:29:55.140 --> 00:29:58.579
point. Like. You're not 19 year old Bohemians
00:29:58.579 --> 00:30:03.599
anymore. Yeah, now you're just weird. No, I the
00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:07.099
only so far and it's gonna surprise a lot of
00:30:07.099 --> 00:30:09.140
listeners because everyone that's been listening
00:30:09.140 --> 00:30:12.720
to this show knows I'm a huge Dick Grayson Nightwing
00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:17.200
fan and damn you to dildo for killing him jerk
00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:22.500
But the only Dick Grayson is Batman story I've
00:30:22.500 --> 00:30:25.819
read to this point is gates of Gotham I want
00:30:25.819 --> 00:30:28.640
to read more but gates of Gotham was awesome.
00:30:28.640 --> 00:30:32.019
Go get a collection called Batman the black mirror
00:30:32.829 --> 00:30:36.809
That's like, it's Scott Snyder, Francesco Francovia,
00:30:37.390 --> 00:30:42.150
and Jock. Because they do a thing where they
00:30:42.150 --> 00:30:45.630
alternate on Francovia's issues, it's following
00:30:45.630 --> 00:30:49.509
Dick more, and on Jock's issue, it's following
00:30:49.509 --> 00:30:53.109
Commissioner Gordon more, as they're trying to
00:30:53.109 --> 00:30:56.410
solve the same mystery, but coming at it from
00:30:56.410 --> 00:30:59.599
different angles. And it's a really interesting
00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:02.119
story and it's got this really interesting theme
00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:06.400
of the idea of Gotham being this black mirror
00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:10.259
that sort of shows you the worst of yourself
00:31:10.259 --> 00:31:13.279
and you either sort of succumb to it or overcome
00:31:13.279 --> 00:31:17.000
it. And the idea being that characters like Joker
00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:19.880
and Riddler and all those people succumbed to
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:23.380
it and people like Batman overcame it, you know?
00:31:24.549 --> 00:31:26.890
Plus you start to really see I felt like that's
00:31:26.890 --> 00:31:30.450
where you first started to see some of the really
00:31:30.450 --> 00:31:36.069
cool things that Snyder did in terms of like
00:31:36.069 --> 00:31:38.089
interacting with the art and the page layout
00:31:38.089 --> 00:31:39.710
I really felt like that's where you first start
00:31:39.710 --> 00:31:41.990
to see things that you know like in Court of
00:31:41.990 --> 00:31:46.390
Owls where they did Batman trapped in the maze
00:31:46.390 --> 00:31:48.950
and it's rotating so that if you follow the rotation
00:31:48.950 --> 00:31:53.369
you are also trapped in the maze And I felt like
00:31:53.369 --> 00:31:56.029
you start to see the beginnings of that playfulness.
00:31:56.410 --> 00:31:58.710
And that was actually something that really,
00:31:58.710 --> 00:32:03.849
really inspired me. Like that and the Young Avengers
00:32:03.849 --> 00:32:07.910
run that Guien did. Yeah, McKelvey and Guien.
00:32:07.930 --> 00:32:09.710
Yeah, McKelvey and Guien, where they had like
00:32:09.710 --> 00:32:11.950
the, there was like a Novart fight scene where
00:32:11.950 --> 00:32:15.670
they literally diagrammed the room and drew like
00:32:15.670 --> 00:32:18.349
seven Novars and like labeled it like almost
00:32:18.349 --> 00:32:22.400
like a catalog page. And that really was something
00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:25.579
that inspired me when I was working on Windblade,
00:32:25.819 --> 00:32:31.180
just to see what new ways can we push the art
00:32:31.180 --> 00:32:34.059
and the writing's interaction. Like how can we
00:32:34.059 --> 00:32:36.640
push a physical comic book? I think that's sort
00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:38.720
of what gave us the idea for Metroplex's voice.
00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:42.819
Like having Metroplex be essentially talking
00:32:42.819 --> 00:32:46.559
like all the time on like seven different levels.
00:32:48.779 --> 00:32:52.200
I remember when we, for myself, Amy, Nicole,
00:32:52.299 --> 00:32:55.039
and Heather teamed up to do the underbass pullback
00:32:55.039 --> 00:32:58.519
crossover for Windblade's first series, I remember
00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:03.220
the first recording and as soon as Chromia said,
00:33:04.380 --> 00:33:06.799
as soon as Windblade said, I'm gonna tell him
00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:10.059
you said that, you know? She's like, no, don't!
00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:15.339
And I'm like, I can no longer hear Ironhide unless
00:33:15.339 --> 00:33:20.180
it's... Thanks for noticing me. Ironhide is essentially
00:33:20.180 --> 00:33:22.700
Eeyore. You turned Ironhide into a Winnie the
00:33:22.700 --> 00:33:27.359
Pooh character. Ironhide has some cool stuff
00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:34.700
coming up. Stop spoiling things. No, yeah, we
00:33:34.700 --> 00:33:38.339
do build up on Ironhide a little bit in upcoming
00:33:38.339 --> 00:33:41.200
issues. Yeah, I know. I actually really wanted
00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:42.980
to spend more time with Ironhide. That's kind
00:33:42.980 --> 00:33:46.279
of like the one sad thing about Windblade, as
00:33:46.279 --> 00:33:49.700
much as I loved everything about Windblade, it's
00:33:49.700 --> 00:33:51.900
like when you're doing a book focused on one
00:33:51.900 --> 00:33:54.759
character, you can't sort of get lost in the
00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:56.400
other characters, but it's like you just want
00:33:56.400 --> 00:33:59.539
to spend more time with them. Like, you just
00:33:59.539 --> 00:34:01.980
want to hang out with Ironhide more. It was a
00:34:01.980 --> 00:34:05.259
Windblade Chromia book that like yearned to be
00:34:05.259 --> 00:34:09.349
a teen series book. Yeah, by the way, I'm really
00:34:09.349 --> 00:34:11.550
sorry. I heard your guys was like last review
00:34:11.550 --> 00:34:15.869
Everyone's always mad about issue four. I'm sorry
00:34:15.869 --> 00:34:25.030
Don't remember what we were angry about I assume
00:34:25.030 --> 00:34:27.949
it was the fact that it was chromia. Yeah Yeah,
00:34:27.969 --> 00:34:30.369
everyone. I that whole month. I kept getting
00:34:30.369 --> 00:34:34.710
people like how could you do this? I you know
00:34:35.050 --> 00:34:40.329
if it had been like honestly if it had been somebody
00:34:40.329 --> 00:34:43.030
like rc or anybody else i probably would have
00:34:43.030 --> 00:34:47.469
been more like chromia to me she's one of four
00:34:47.469 --> 00:34:50.710
of the female autobots she's you know one of
00:34:50.710 --> 00:34:54.349
alita one's crew along with firestar and moonracer
00:34:54.349 --> 00:34:58.130
i mean you did great flushing her character out
00:34:58.130 --> 00:35:00.670
and giving her more depth than just another female
00:35:00.670 --> 00:35:05.619
autobot but I was really expecting something
00:35:05.619 --> 00:35:08.780
other than it was Chromia all along. I don't
00:35:08.780 --> 00:35:11.980
know what I was expecting out of it, but I don't
00:35:11.980 --> 00:35:15.280
remember me being that mad, I'm sure. I think
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:17.139
it was more the other people. But yeah, no one
00:35:17.139 --> 00:35:18.639
was expecting it. That was the funny thing. I
00:35:18.639 --> 00:35:20.980
was so worried, especially by issue three, that
00:35:20.980 --> 00:35:23.880
like everyone was going to know. Like, oh yeah,
00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:26.039
clearly it's Chromia. I'm like, we set this up
00:35:26.039 --> 00:35:28.139
way too much. We've tipped our hand and like
00:35:28.139 --> 00:35:32.760
no one. No one figured it out like one dude on
00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:36.320
like one of the message boards did and then Proceeded
00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:40.460
to talk himself out of it That's how good your
00:35:40.460 --> 00:35:42.619
writing is that you can have people talk themselves
00:35:42.619 --> 00:35:51.380
out of their own opinions Yes, yeah, which I
00:35:51.380 --> 00:35:53.880
liked I liked the idea of iron hide like sort
00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:57.000
of is went to like some weird nihilistic place
00:35:57.179 --> 00:35:59.480
It's like, since there's no my future, there's
00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:05.639
no any future now. Like... Ironhide's biggest
00:36:05.639 --> 00:36:09.219
claim in IDW, I saw the future, now it ain't
00:36:09.219 --> 00:36:16.239
happening. Oh, man. Uh, no, you know, the...
00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:19.920
I think what... I think I was expecting some
00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:23.079
sort of comedy thing, because... And really,
00:36:23.179 --> 00:36:27.190
it's all Sarah's fault, honestly. Sarah did a
00:36:27.190 --> 00:36:30.929
cover for Windblade number three. I think it's
00:36:30.929 --> 00:36:35.670
the regular cover, which it's the one where she's
00:36:35.670 --> 00:36:38.409
got the blood going down her face. Yeah, she's
00:36:38.409 --> 00:36:42.030
crying blood. Yeah. Yeah. As soon as I saw that
00:36:42.030 --> 00:36:45.130
in Solicits, I'm like, hey, it's Lydia from Beetlejuice.
00:36:45.190 --> 00:36:47.230
Where's Michael Keaton when you really need him?
00:36:47.969 --> 00:36:50.730
I really thought it was Lydia from Beetlejuice
00:36:50.730 --> 00:36:55.219
when I saw the cover in Solicits. Like, oh, that's
00:36:55.219 --> 00:37:01.599
so awesome. All right, Jason, what are you currently
00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:03.760
reading? What are you currently paying attention
00:37:03.760 --> 00:37:10.119
to? We read a lot of stuff. So I've actually
00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:13.820
been really getting into this new Fire and Stone
00:37:13.820 --> 00:37:18.860
series that Dark Horse is doing. It's Prometheus,
00:37:19.099 --> 00:37:22.059
Aliens, Predators, and Aliens versus Predator.
00:37:22.789 --> 00:37:28.130
And it's really cool. It's set between Prometheus
00:37:28.130 --> 00:37:34.110
and the first Alien movie. And each one is its
00:37:34.110 --> 00:37:36.210
own series, but then they have elements that
00:37:36.210 --> 00:37:38.369
tie together. But they've put together a really
00:37:38.369 --> 00:37:40.750
good writing team and a really good art team.
00:37:41.590 --> 00:37:45.889
And it's really awesome. So that's been really
00:37:45.889 --> 00:37:52.369
cool. And then... I'm a big fan of Rat Queens
00:37:52.369 --> 00:37:58.070
over at the Image, which is essentially a D &D
00:37:58.070 --> 00:38:01.409
party of four 20 -something -year -old women.
00:38:02.829 --> 00:38:06.190
If you really were an adventuring party and you
00:38:06.190 --> 00:38:09.829
just came out of a dungeon with 10 ,000 gold
00:38:09.829 --> 00:38:13.969
and no job to have to go to in the morning, you
00:38:13.969 --> 00:38:17.420
would not be like... Nice upstanding noble people
00:38:17.420 --> 00:38:20.780
you would be like drunk and disorderly and your
00:38:20.780 --> 00:38:22.699
people that have literally chosen to kill for
00:38:22.699 --> 00:38:26.760
money. Yeah And so it's just really interesting
00:38:26.760 --> 00:38:29.960
it's not for women and You know getting into
00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:33.119
all sorts of trouble and you know some of their
00:38:33.119 --> 00:38:36.460
past discretion is catching up with them But
00:38:36.460 --> 00:38:38.800
yeah, no, it's it's really cool. It's by Curtis.
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:41.300
We've been rocked up church. It's really good
00:38:42.829 --> 00:38:46.010
Over at Marvel, I really like Captain Marvel,
00:38:46.510 --> 00:38:51.489
and I'm really enjoying the current X -Men run.
00:38:52.190 --> 00:38:55.190
Although it's interesting, so there's uncanny
00:38:55.190 --> 00:38:58.849
and all -new X -Men, and it fluctuates from time
00:38:58.849 --> 00:39:01.949
to time which one I like more, because they're
00:39:01.949 --> 00:39:06.449
both really good. It's really nice to have the
00:39:06.449 --> 00:39:10.070
original X -Men back, and like... No, it's not.
00:39:10.300 --> 00:39:13.440
I like this. I like this because they're making
00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:16.739
them characters. I mean, it's an interesting
00:39:16.739 --> 00:39:18.480
character thing, but it's like, first of all,
00:39:18.699 --> 00:39:22.440
Beast is a tool. He's just the tooliest tool
00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:26.340
that ever tooled. And it's like, I don't know.
00:39:26.440 --> 00:39:28.599
It's like we have other interesting relationships
00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:32.920
we could be going to. I just miss Jean Grey and
00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:36.619
Jean's back, and she's really cool. And I like
00:39:36.619 --> 00:39:39.800
Kitty being their professor, like Professor K.
00:39:40.219 --> 00:39:45.920
is really fun. But yeah, and then probably over
00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:48.280
at Boom, they have this great book called Suicide
00:39:48.280 --> 00:39:51.159
Risk that Margaret and I are obsessed with, which
00:39:51.159 --> 00:40:01.420
is just awesome. I am kind of going... See, you
00:40:01.420 --> 00:40:03.760
know, you guys mentioned Dick Grayson as Batman.
00:40:04.090 --> 00:40:07.210
And the way I've always looked at Bruce Wayne
00:40:07.210 --> 00:40:09.590
as Batman, like he's the legend. He's the one
00:40:09.590 --> 00:40:13.989
you want to live up to. So boring. OK, well,
00:40:14.110 --> 00:40:18.269
yeah, but here's the thing. Bruce Wayne is the
00:40:18.269 --> 00:40:21.510
legend. No one person is ever going to attain
00:40:21.510 --> 00:40:24.670
or become Bruce Wayne Batman. But Dick Grayson,
00:40:24.750 --> 00:40:27.809
whether it's Robin Nightwing or Batman, he's
00:40:27.809 --> 00:40:32.690
he's DC's everyman character. And when DC and
00:40:32.690 --> 00:40:35.769
the editorial took him and said, Hey, look, we're
00:40:35.769 --> 00:40:37.809
just waiting to give him an eye patch and make
00:40:37.809 --> 00:40:39.789
him the Nick Fury of the DC universe. I'm like,
00:40:39.789 --> 00:40:45.170
yep, I'm out. Once they killed Nightwing is when
00:40:45.170 --> 00:40:49.929
I'm like really turning my back on DC. Now, Gale
00:40:49.929 --> 00:40:52.510
left the book on Batgirl. So they're taking,
00:40:52.670 --> 00:40:55.449
which I'm all for Batgirl being brighter and
00:40:55.449 --> 00:40:58.440
happier and everything else. I just. from seeing
00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:01.440
the preview and everything else for issue 35,
00:41:01.559 --> 00:41:03.780
I don't like the art style. I can already say
00:41:03.780 --> 00:41:05.900
I don't like the art style just from seeing the
00:41:05.900 --> 00:41:09.940
preview. And she looks like she's going to be,
00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:12.019
even though I've talked to the writers on Twitter
00:41:12.019 --> 00:41:13.980
and asked them how old she is, they said she's
00:41:13.980 --> 00:41:16.460
21, in the art style she looks like she's 14.
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:18.000
Really? Yeah. She does look like, I would have
00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:21.420
thought she was 14. That's exactly what I said.
00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:24.780
I said, because I asked them, I said, how old
00:41:24.780 --> 00:41:27.739
is Barbara going to be? They said, they told
00:41:27.739 --> 00:41:31.639
me on Twitter, in Gail's run, she's 21. And that's
00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:33.980
what she's going to be in our run. She doesn't
00:41:33.980 --> 00:41:37.360
look like a 21 -year -old at all. She looks like
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:41.880
she's 14. So I'm going to give Batgirl one or
00:41:41.880 --> 00:41:44.780
two more issues. And if by issue 36 it doesn't
00:41:44.780 --> 00:41:46.780
grab me, I'm dropping the title. Because honestly,
00:41:46.940 --> 00:41:50.389
without Gail writing it, It's lost. Honestly,
00:41:50.389 --> 00:41:53.570
the new Batgirl is the only DC book we're probably
00:41:53.570 --> 00:41:59.570
gonna be reading. Wow. Well, with them cancelling
00:41:59.570 --> 00:42:02.869
Batman Beyond, yeah. We have nothing on our DC
00:42:02.869 --> 00:42:05.989
list except Batgirl and Gotham Academy. They're
00:42:05.989 --> 00:42:08.230
the only books that have interested me in years.
00:42:09.250 --> 00:42:14.650
Well, I mean, it's just... I get that DC is...
00:42:15.860 --> 00:42:18.079
You know, they have a lot of turnover which makes
00:42:18.079 --> 00:42:21.539
it a little hard to like tonally sort of maintain
00:42:21.539 --> 00:42:27.079
characters and this insistence on Sort of this
00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:31.719
very consistent art style It makes it a little
00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:34.719
like like when when new 52 came out like we read
00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:36.900
a bunch of like animal man and things like that
00:42:36.900 --> 00:42:40.119
and it's just It's I just want my books to be
00:42:40.119 --> 00:42:43.440
a little more visually diverse and a little more
00:42:44.329 --> 00:42:47.969
Diverse in terms of of story type and I feel
00:42:47.969 --> 00:42:50.130
like that's not necessarily where DC's headed
00:42:50.130 --> 00:42:52.010
I mean, they kind of keep putting toes into that
00:42:52.010 --> 00:42:55.510
water and that's interesting but and in all honesty,
00:42:55.730 --> 00:42:59.090
like they're not really It doesn't seem like
00:42:59.090 --> 00:43:01.090
the company is super interested in going after
00:43:01.090 --> 00:43:05.269
my personal demographic You know like with the
00:43:05.269 --> 00:43:11.130
whole like bikini thing and you know like soup
00:43:11.130 --> 00:43:13.760
like Wonder Woman getting a second book that's
00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:18.119
her dating superman like that's it's just it's
00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:20.820
um it just doesn't seem like we're the the types
00:43:20.820 --> 00:43:22.940
of readers that dc is looking to court right
00:43:22.940 --> 00:43:28.780
now so yeah um yeah and you know for me the only
00:43:28.780 --> 00:43:31.739
new dc book i'm like i said i already said i'm
00:43:31.739 --> 00:43:34.340
interested in his arc of manner but right now
00:43:34.340 --> 00:43:37.039
i was gonna pick batman back up with this new
00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:40.400
end game arc but with the price being $4 .99
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:44.719
for issue 35. I'm sorry, not digital because
00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:47.159
it's a double issue or something or other. Yeah,
00:43:47.159 --> 00:43:49.159
but is it really double issue? Do they just throw
00:43:49.159 --> 00:43:52.179
a bunch of nonsense from the back? I don't know.
00:43:52.420 --> 00:43:57.380
All is I know is I just I'm still on Batman Eternal
00:43:57.380 --> 00:43:59.619
for that. I'm waiting for that to kind of wrap
00:43:59.619 --> 00:44:05.360
up and end. Batman Beyond 2 .0 got cancelled,
00:44:05.659 --> 00:44:08.880
so that's ending in November. So yeah, I'm pretty
00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:11.699
much at this point. I'm reading Cowl from Image,
00:44:12.980 --> 00:44:16.480
which... That's... You can't say... You can...
00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:19.769
No one should ever say... read Cowl, you know,
00:44:19.909 --> 00:44:21.969
have your kids read Cowl, because I think the
00:44:21.969 --> 00:44:24.889
second issue, the second issue, this is not a
00:44:24.889 --> 00:44:27.789
spoiler for the plot, but the second issue of
00:44:27.789 --> 00:44:29.090
the book, because there are five issues in, the
00:44:29.090 --> 00:44:30.590
second issue of the book, second or third issue,
00:44:30.710 --> 00:44:35.050
I think, one of the guys, one of the police officers
00:44:35.050 --> 00:44:38.630
is fighting with a criminal over a gun, and the
00:44:38.630 --> 00:44:42.849
gun goes off in the guy's pants, quite literally.
00:44:43.179 --> 00:44:47.460
I have the screen cap of this. But I'm really
00:44:47.460 --> 00:44:50.519
liking Cowl. It's by Kyle Higgins and Alex Siegel.
00:44:50.699 --> 00:44:53.440
It's based off of Kyle's short film, The League.
00:44:53.619 --> 00:44:55.940
It's really, really cool. What would happen if
00:44:55.940 --> 00:45:00.760
there was a superheroes labor union in 1960s
00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:07.179
Chicago? So that's really cool. Yeah, I mean,
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:10.280
outside of Batgirl and Batman Eternal, Those
00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:12.480
are the only two DC books I'm getting right now.
00:45:12.780 --> 00:45:14.860
Like I said, I'm looking forward to Arkham Manor.
00:45:16.199 --> 00:45:19.260
Those are the two main DC core titles. I do have
00:45:19.260 --> 00:45:22.480
their licensed title for Masters of the Universe,
00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:24.460
which that's going to be changing come December.
00:45:25.320 --> 00:45:28.679
And then the rest of it is IDW stuff, Turtles
00:45:28.679 --> 00:45:34.420
and Transformers. Turtles is awesome. I don't
00:45:34.420 --> 00:45:36.880
know if you guys are Ninja Turtle fans, but oh
00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:40.079
man, what they've done with that series. He is.
00:45:40.460 --> 00:45:43.659
I don't know. Yeah, I haven't really been following
00:45:43.659 --> 00:45:47.179
it. A lot of my friends tell me this current
00:45:47.179 --> 00:45:49.440
run is really good, but it's one of those things
00:45:49.440 --> 00:45:53.320
of like going back and finding the trades and
00:45:53.320 --> 00:45:55.980
getting started and all that, you know. And just
00:45:55.980 --> 00:45:59.000
going to Comixology, they have them all. Yeah.
00:45:59.699 --> 00:46:02.800
I mean, if you're, all right, well, yeah, I don't
00:46:02.800 --> 00:46:05.460
know. All right, so are you guys pro print or
00:46:05.460 --> 00:46:09.289
pro digital? We're pro anything. I think what
00:46:09.289 --> 00:46:11.949
I really like what I really prefer is the idea
00:46:11.949 --> 00:46:17.550
that I buy my comics in print And then when I
00:46:17.550 --> 00:46:19.389
can't get a hold of them in print I buy them
00:46:19.389 --> 00:46:22.269
digitally So it's like if I'm starting a new
00:46:22.269 --> 00:46:24.030
line, and it's like oh you're out of issue 2
00:46:24.030 --> 00:46:27.230
then I buy issue 2 digitally so digital is sort
00:46:27.230 --> 00:46:37.360
of my Yeah, back up stopgap there are a lot of
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:42.159
people who didn't know sort of how to get them
00:46:42.159 --> 00:46:44.400
from a comic shop or a lot of people who went
00:46:44.400 --> 00:46:46.780
to a comic shop and found them sold out. So I
00:46:46.780 --> 00:46:49.780
like that digital created this really nice sort
00:46:49.780 --> 00:46:53.880
of no barrier, no gateway way for people to get
00:46:53.880 --> 00:46:56.920
the book. I think that's really great. I think
00:46:56.920 --> 00:47:00.900
that's why you're seeing such growth like in
00:47:00.900 --> 00:47:03.579
digital and you're seeing new demographics of
00:47:03.579 --> 00:47:07.429
comic readers find comics through digital. But,
00:47:07.710 --> 00:47:10.389
for me personally, I really like going to our
00:47:10.389 --> 00:47:13.789
shop and meeting our, you know, seeing our guy,
00:47:14.090 --> 00:47:17.730
Judd, at Blastoff Comics. Yeah, Blastoff Comics,
00:47:18.090 --> 00:47:19.849
really great place, very very north Hollywood.
00:47:20.570 --> 00:47:23.690
And, you know, like, it's Wednesday and everybody's
00:47:23.690 --> 00:47:26.630
there and everybody's debating, like, the latest
00:47:26.630 --> 00:47:29.949
comic thing and, you know, it's just fun. It's
00:47:29.949 --> 00:47:33.449
a nice community experience that I worry sometimes,
00:47:33.510 --> 00:47:37.710
like... there's not enough of, you know, for
00:47:37.710 --> 00:47:40.929
comics readers. But no, digital's great. Like,
00:47:40.929 --> 00:47:44.130
currently I'm reading that Sensation comics featuring
00:47:44.130 --> 00:47:47.670
Wonder Woman. I actually subscribe, so like,
00:47:47.809 --> 00:47:49.849
every Thursday morning I wake up and I have a
00:47:49.849 --> 00:47:53.409
new Wonder Woman comic on my Kindle. And that's
00:47:53.409 --> 00:47:57.230
been really fun. I really like that. And, you
00:47:57.230 --> 00:47:59.550
know, it's just, I think that that's a neat business
00:47:59.550 --> 00:48:01.960
model that they should explore more. The idea
00:48:01.960 --> 00:48:04.760
of doing these little 12 -page weekly comics
00:48:04.760 --> 00:48:09.840
is really fun, I think. See, I think for me what
00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:11.440
it is, and I've said this before on the show,
00:48:11.579 --> 00:48:15.159
but haven't said this to you guys, is I was getting
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:18.400
a lot of print issues because I started reading
00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:21.239
comics full -time when Death of the Family was
00:48:21.239 --> 00:48:27.429
going on over at DC, so two years ago. You know,
00:48:27.429 --> 00:48:28.809
I was getting a lot of print, a lot of print.
00:48:28.989 --> 00:48:31.130
I thought at first that digital was just, oh,
00:48:31.150 --> 00:48:35.230
you have to have Kindle, iDevice, whatever. And
00:48:35.230 --> 00:48:37.369
I realized, oh, hey, no, I can just go on their
00:48:37.369 --> 00:48:41.570
website and do it that way. Right on your computer.
00:48:41.730 --> 00:48:43.949
And that's all well and good. And honestly, for
00:48:43.949 --> 00:48:46.610
me at this point, for me to actually get the
00:48:46.610 --> 00:48:49.230
story without, and this is just, I guess, the
00:48:49.230 --> 00:48:51.389
way I am with everything I do in my everyday
00:48:51.389 --> 00:48:54.829
life is, I found that every time I would go to
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sit down and read a comic, I would even if it
00:48:58.480 --> 00:49:03.159
was just a 40 page comic I would end up either
00:49:03.159 --> 00:49:05.940
falling asleep in the chair or something you
00:49:05.940 --> 00:49:09.159
know just something would distract me from reading
00:49:09.159 --> 00:49:11.900
the book and I'm thinking okay well if I'm sitting
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here in front of my computer and comics ology
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has this amazing guided view technology which
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takes you panel by panel Absolutely awesome cannot
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say enough good things about that. I actually
00:49:21.820 --> 00:49:24.059
highly recommend whenever people ask me about
00:49:24.059 --> 00:49:26.559
learning to write comics I think guided view
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is Just a phenomenal learning tool as a writer
00:49:30.780 --> 00:49:34.000
to how to beat out your panels, you know to be
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able to see You know, how are you breaking this
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up as a writer? Some writers obviously do go
00:49:41.659 --> 00:49:45.780
into what panel goes where I'm not one of them
00:49:46.910 --> 00:49:51.530
and the fact that you can watch Guided View almost
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is like a storyboard. I feel like it really helps
00:49:55.530 --> 00:50:00.250
break it away from sometimes the really cool
00:50:00.250 --> 00:50:03.190
and really intentional interaction between panels.
00:50:05.329 --> 00:50:10.110
So I'm very like Guided View. Yeah, I like it
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for the kind of like Forrest Gump aspect of it
00:50:14.090 --> 00:50:16.179
where You never know what you're going to get
00:50:16.179 --> 00:50:20.860
on the next panel. It's a whole new way of doing
00:50:20.860 --> 00:50:23.679
that whole page turner thing where you're like,
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what's going to happen now? I have no idea. Have
00:50:26.940 --> 00:50:30.179
you read any of Mark Wade's Thrillbat comics?
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No. Those are designed to be read online. So
00:50:36.300 --> 00:50:39.780
they're done panel by panel. And they actually
00:50:39.780 --> 00:50:43.659
do a lot of really unique things with the light.
00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:47.260
the idea of the page turn or the reveal, the
00:50:47.260 --> 00:50:50.019
transition from panel to panel. They're actually,
00:50:50.460 --> 00:50:52.059
especially like, if you ever get a chance to
00:50:52.059 --> 00:50:55.840
read, I think it's called Valentine by Alex DeCanti.
00:50:56.300 --> 00:50:58.300
She's one of the first people to really push
00:50:58.300 --> 00:51:02.199
what a digital comic can be and how you can like
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:04.500
really do things when you're doing that panel
00:51:04.500 --> 00:51:06.739
to panel thing that you couldn't do in a book.
00:51:07.500 --> 00:51:12.880
It's really great. Awesome. But Jason, I would
00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:17.119
suggest Turtles. You can get most of the trades
00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:19.420
on Comixology if you want the trade versions
00:51:19.420 --> 00:51:21.039
of it so you don't have to buy the, you know,
00:51:21.199 --> 00:51:24.619
have a multitude of the single issues. It's,
00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:28.460
the current IDW Turtles line, the main Turtles
00:51:28.460 --> 00:51:32.719
line is an entire love letter to the entire franchise.
00:51:32.860 --> 00:51:35.760
It calls back to so many things. It puts in so
00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:40.340
many things. Just amazing. They just wrapped
00:51:40.340 --> 00:51:44.260
up The latest for issue miniseries where they
00:51:44.260 --> 00:51:47.400
actually did a damn good job of doing turtles
00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:51.079
in time in comic form But it made sense for the
00:51:51.079 --> 00:51:54.079
story as to what's going on in the IDW turtles
00:51:54.079 --> 00:52:00.539
verse So that that was pretty awesome I Am getting
00:52:00.539 --> 00:52:07.460
a lot of static from you guys Sounds like somebody's
00:52:07.460 --> 00:52:11.420
blowing all over the place there we go All right,
00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:15.539
51 17. All right kind of wrapping this thing
00:52:15.539 --> 00:52:20.960
up here What do you guys have going on for work
00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:26.260
related comic stuff marigold? That you can actually
00:52:26.260 --> 00:52:31.739
talk about exactly well Not as much as you think
00:52:31.739 --> 00:52:35.760
everything Yeah, I know no well wind blade is
00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:38.440
coming back in in the new combiner wars, which
00:52:38.440 --> 00:52:41.860
we are hard at work on Firing on all cylinders
00:52:41.860 --> 00:52:45.460
and actually this Interview comes out before
00:52:45.460 --> 00:52:48.039
next week. You can see us at New York Comic Con
00:52:48.039 --> 00:52:55.559
Sarah John Livio and me Oh, yeah, and Andrew
00:52:55.559 --> 00:53:00.280
Andrew too So we're doing that and I'm really
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:04.760
excited I got a chance to write a short for Boom
00:53:04.760 --> 00:53:10.349
Studios bravest warriors paralyzed horse which
00:53:10.349 --> 00:53:13.510
is a short story about one of their characters
00:53:13.510 --> 00:53:17.769
who is a horse that becomes completely paralyzed
00:53:17.769 --> 00:53:22.250
because he gains awareness of the entirety of
00:53:22.250 --> 00:53:25.809
existence. And he's sort of in a perpetual state
00:53:25.809 --> 00:53:30.869
of awe. Which is actually really cool. We've
00:53:30.869 --> 00:53:34.929
done some really neat things with that. And yeah,
00:53:34.929 --> 00:53:39.599
I'm working on an OGN right now. That's... I
00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:44.619
can probably talk more about in 2015 That I'm
00:53:44.619 --> 00:53:47.099
very excited about that's definitely it's nice
00:53:47.099 --> 00:53:51.559
to go back to To something a little darker and
00:53:51.559 --> 00:53:54.500
this is definitely probably one of the more messed
00:53:54.500 --> 00:53:57.820
up things that I've written. So Very excited
00:53:57.820 --> 00:54:00.659
to put that out there and then we have quite
00:54:00.659 --> 00:54:04.539
a few TV shows coming out. So That's always fun
00:54:04.539 --> 00:54:10.320
Yeah, which was what can you Which ones can you
00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:13.320
talk about? Gosh, you know, I never really know.
00:54:13.599 --> 00:54:17.000
I mean, obviously, I'm working on Transformers
00:54:17.000 --> 00:54:19.699
Robots in Disguise, which I think this episode
00:54:19.699 --> 00:54:24.300
is supposed to be out 2015. And then I do write
00:54:24.300 --> 00:54:26.159
an episode of Ultimate Spider -Man that hasn't
00:54:26.159 --> 00:54:28.920
come out yet. But I'm not sure when that's going
00:54:28.920 --> 00:54:31.639
to air. Everything else, I'm not sure how much
00:54:31.639 --> 00:54:34.980
I want to broadcast it. But fun things. Since
00:54:34.980 --> 00:54:36.880
you mentioned the Ultimate Spider -Man cartoon.
00:54:36.960 --> 00:54:39.519
I have not been keeping up with that I need to
00:54:39.519 --> 00:54:43.480
but I've seen the advertisements since this is
00:54:43.480 --> 00:54:47.039
Monstober on Disney Channel I've seen the advertisements
00:54:47.039 --> 00:54:49.440
of the first ever Disney Channel live -action
00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:52.579
crossover where the characters from Jesse are
00:54:52.579 --> 00:54:55.920
gonna be on Ultimate Spider -Man What do you
00:54:55.920 --> 00:54:59.650
think of that? I mean, it's a really, I was not
00:54:59.650 --> 00:55:01.369
involved in that. I didn't work on that episode.
00:55:01.449 --> 00:55:04.949
I'm just a gun for hire on that show. But I mean,
00:55:04.949 --> 00:55:08.309
it's a really neat idea. Like the idea of crossing
00:55:08.309 --> 00:55:10.889
over a live action TV series with an animated
00:55:10.889 --> 00:55:13.630
TV series. And I'd be really interested to hear.
00:55:13.869 --> 00:55:16.389
I'm kind of surprised just because live action
00:55:16.389 --> 00:55:19.409
works on a completely different timeline than
00:55:19.409 --> 00:55:25.409
an animation. So I mean, but why not? Why not
00:55:25.409 --> 00:55:28.670
push things a little more? And I'm sure I would
00:55:28.670 --> 00:55:31.269
imagine Jesse has a larger viewing audience than
00:55:31.269 --> 00:55:33.369
Ultimate Spider -Man. So it's probably really
00:55:33.369 --> 00:55:37.289
good for Ultimate Spider -Man. I think if they
00:55:37.289 --> 00:55:39.929
had done the reverse and tried to do like a live
00:55:39.929 --> 00:55:42.389
-action Ultimate Spider -Man shows up in Jesse,
00:55:42.389 --> 00:55:44.809
that would have been weirder. Yeah, that would
00:55:44.809 --> 00:55:48.849
have been much weirder. No, that wouldn't have
00:55:48.849 --> 00:55:52.610
worked. All right. Where can the good folks interact
00:55:52.610 --> 00:55:54.610
with you guys online, Jason? Whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:55:54.610 --> 00:55:59.460
What about my work? Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, I've
00:55:59.460 --> 00:56:02.039
got a series on Comixology right now called Father
00:56:02.039 --> 00:56:06.920
Robot. That's an all ages comic series that I
00:56:06.920 --> 00:56:10.099
believe issue two is out and issue three is coming
00:56:10.099 --> 00:56:12.880
out soon. It's a five issue series. And you're
00:56:12.880 --> 00:56:16.239
editing on that. Yeah, I'm editing on that. And
00:56:16.239 --> 00:56:21.420
the 215 Inc. is releasing the issues, I believe,
00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:26.699
later this year. And then, yeah, where can they
00:56:26.699 --> 00:56:30.880
find you online, Marika? Yes, well, we're hard
00:56:30.880 --> 00:56:34.320
at work on a new website right now that I should
00:56:34.320 --> 00:56:38.820
be working on right now. So I don't know, how
00:56:38.820 --> 00:56:40.480
much lead time do I have until this actually
00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:46.179
airs? This will go up, most likely, since it's
00:56:46.179 --> 00:56:48.960
a comic episode, it'll go up the eighth. OK,
00:56:48.960 --> 00:56:53.219
let's shoot for it then. You can find me at mscotwriter.
00:56:55.339 --> 00:56:59.340
and you can also find me on Twitter at at Marigold
00:56:59.340 --> 00:57:05.699
Scott and on Tumblr at mscotwrights .com. There,
00:57:06.139 --> 00:57:10.480
mscotwrights .tumblr .com. Oh yes, sorry. And
00:57:10.480 --> 00:57:16.559
then you can follow my monthly podcast, The Previews
00:57:16.559 --> 00:57:19.760
Party, which is part of fanboycomics .net. where
00:57:19.760 --> 00:57:22.260
we talk about upcoming comics. I love Previews
00:57:22.260 --> 00:57:24.119
Party. They go through the Previews magazine
00:57:24.119 --> 00:57:27.039
and talk about like what is upcoming and what,
00:57:27.039 --> 00:57:28.980
you know, they're thinking, what do they think
00:57:28.980 --> 00:57:31.019
about, you know, things that you should be pre
00:57:31.019 --> 00:57:32.900
-ordering. If you don't have time to like wade
00:57:32.900 --> 00:57:35.340
through all of Previews, it's a really great,
00:57:35.619 --> 00:57:40.619
really great segment. Yeah. And then we do, you
00:57:40.619 --> 00:57:44.139
can find my writing on Comics Beat. I do the
00:57:44.139 --> 00:57:48.219
monthly sales analysis articles. And then I'm
00:57:48.219 --> 00:57:52.019
on Twitter at Jason Enright. And I think my Tumblr
00:57:52.019 --> 00:57:57.059
is just JasonEnright .tumblr .com. And yeah,
00:57:57.480 --> 00:57:59.440
and we'll be, we're there to chat. If you find
00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:01.460
one of us on Tumblr, you'll see the other one,
00:58:01.579 --> 00:58:06.789
because we're always blogging. Yeah. Alright,
00:58:06.789 --> 00:58:10.289
and the wind blade trade paperback is currently
00:58:10.289 --> 00:58:13.329
out The link will be in the show notes to Jason's
00:58:13.329 --> 00:58:16.110
post on tumblr on how you can get your copy of
00:58:16.110 --> 00:58:20.730
wind blade I always love reading some of those
00:58:20.730 --> 00:58:24.010
posts that you put up for that For your tumblr
00:58:24.010 --> 00:58:28.570
regarding how to get comics because it it's our
00:58:28.570 --> 00:58:30.929
number one question It is my number one question
00:58:30.929 --> 00:58:33.050
that people ask when I was pushing wind blade
00:58:33.440 --> 00:58:36.380
Was always getting like but how do you do it
00:58:36.380 --> 00:58:38.559
and what if I live in the middle of nowhere blah
00:58:38.559 --> 00:58:42.699
blah blah blah blah like Yeah, I I wish there
00:58:42.699 --> 00:58:45.619
wasn't such a barrier to entry on comics But
00:58:45.619 --> 00:58:48.900
we try to make it as easy as possible for people
00:58:48.900 --> 00:58:53.780
to find these things Absolutely, absolutely I
00:58:53.780 --> 00:58:55.840
have no idea what's coming up next in the pull
00:58:55.840 --> 00:59:00.440
bag. Honestly, no clue. My plans are all over
00:59:00.440 --> 00:59:03.659
the place. We may be talking about The first
00:59:03.659 --> 00:59:06.699
two volumes of John Layman's Chew, we may be
00:59:06.699 --> 00:59:11.820
talking about... We may be talking about More
00:59:11.820 --> 00:59:13.920
Than Meets the Eye or Robots in Disguise 208
00:59:13.920 --> 00:59:17.719
and 209. I have no idea what's coming up. Alright,
00:59:17.719 --> 00:59:22.059
so I have been TF2 and Mike with... I'm Margaret
00:59:22.059 --> 00:59:25.860
Scott. And Jason Menright. Make your greatest
00:59:25.860 --> 00:59:28.239
game in the comics and we will catch you next
00:59:28.239 --> 00:59:31.659
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